Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: 12vdc or 120vac Fan?

2005-03-20 Thread Mike Morris WA6ILQ

At 11:02 PM 3/19/05, you wrote:

Hi Yall
I missed the beginning of the thread on the 12 volt fans would someone 
clue me in on filtering.

Thanks .bob

It started on 3/18 with message 38409 from kc4wgh

Check the archives at 
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/messages/48509

The thread boiled down to, in my opinion, that in an
AC environment, you want to use AC fans.  In an
environment where the system is going to run on DC
(i.e. battery backup) you need to run a good LC filter
on the fans as many electronic commutator fans will
feed trash back on the power feed, and if there is not
enough filtering the trash will get into the system audio.

Personally I have an old dirty fan (electrically dirty) that
I use for testing...
It's a no-name 120mm size with the only identifier
Made in China.

I put that fan on the RX +12 power feed and see if it
affects the RX audio. If it does, I fix the filtering in the
RX, not the fan !

Likewise I put it on the TX +12 power feed and see if
it affects the TX audio. If it does, again I fix the
filtering!

If the power filtering in the RX or the TX is marginal,
I want to know BEFORE the new box goes up,
perhaps at a site that I can't get to from first snowfall
to last snowmelt (which may be anywhere from
mid-march to late april).

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RE: [Repeater-Builder] Hyper Terminal

2005-03-20 Thread Matthew C. Payne

KA9QJG said:

 Thanks for the Info Charles , and Mike Thank You for the Where to get it
 question , I did not find it at MS Maybe Bill G  is Sleeping Ha Ha

 Don KA9QJG

If it means anything Don, I use the original terminal program that was
included with Windows 3.1 (called terminal.exe) to program the DVR and
controller we use on our club machine.

I actually like it BETTER than HyperTerm for programming the controller. 
Hyperterm just has too many bells and whistles, and IMHO is geared more
toward telephone use (via a modem) than to direct serial connections.

Again, your mileage may vary.

Terminal is included in every Win 3.1 installation, and runs fine in
Windows 95, 98, Me, and 2000.  I haven't tested it in Windows XP, but I
suspect it should work fine.  I create different profiles for each piece
of hardware that I have (DVR, which requires 9600 BAUD, and Controller,
which functions better at 1200) and make shortcuts on my laptop's desktop
to point to the various setups.

Do an internet search for terminal.exe, and you should find it.  But the
best way is to use a copy that comes with Windows 3.1

My $.02

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[Repeater-Builder] Motorola Manual

2005-03-20 Thread George



I need a copy of this if anyone has it,
Motorola Community Repeater Supplement for a UHF Micor

Thank You
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Hyper Terminal

2005-03-20 Thread Joe

Hello skipp,

Please email me the public domain version of PCplus, or maybe you could 
post it to the files section?

Thanks,
Joe, K1ike


At 12:38 AM 3/20/2005 +, you wrote:


I can Email a (public domain version) dos copy
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[Repeater-Builder] Re: -- New Product Announcement from Repeater Builder --

2005-03-20 Thread Kevin Custer








  
  
  
  
  Kevin, I purchased one of your
prototypes last year at Dayton. I wondered if the new model is similar
or quite different from the prototypein case I need to buy one of
the new models...:-))
  
  John VE3AMZ


Hi John,

Circuitry wise there have been some changes implemented to better the
RF and voltage stability and add a dedicated PL Tone input, however,
the basic circuitry remains the same. The new board is obviously much
smaller, thinner, reverse polarity protected, and includes a header. 

When we released the prototype, I advised that we may build a revised
product; and since that time there have been folks asking about it.
Also since then, a lot has happened in my life (divorce) and I simply
didn't have the time and resources available to finish it. Lately,
personal things have drastically improved and I'm able to concentrate
on finishing many projects, this one being near the top of the list.

In summary, there is nothing wrong with the unit you have. It's just
not as small and pretty as the new ones will be. :)

Kevin Custer
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RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Hyper Terminal

2005-03-20 Thread Ralph Hogan


You might also want to look at Teraterm PRO. Its a freebee out on the web if
you do a search. Latest version I found was Ver 3.13. Just downloaded it
yesterday to talk to an eprom programmer. Works great.

Ralph W4XE


-Original Message-
From: Joe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, March 20, 2005 7:05 AM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Hyper Terminal



Hello skipp,

Please email me the public domain version of PCplus, or maybe you could
post it to the files section?

Thanks,
Joe, K1ike


At 12:38 AM 3/20/2005 +, you wrote:


I can Email a (public domain version) dos copy
of pcplus to anyone who wants one.







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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Falcon Communications MOSFET Power Amp

2005-03-20 Thread Micheal Salem N5MS


Eric:

I remember Falcon Ads for these amps I think in both QST and 73 
Magazine.  There might
have even been an article on them in 73 Magazine.

There was a announcement of one of their amplifiers in the July issue of 
1984 issue of ham
radio.  There was also an ad on page 24 of that same issue.

I don't remember much about them, but I remember having a favorable 
impression about them. 
Not that helpful, but I can send you copies of the pages that I mentioned. 

Regards,

Micheal Salem  N5MS


Eric Lemmon wrote:

I have a 220 MHz rackmount power amp on the bench.  The label states it
was made by Falcon Communications of Newport Beach CA, and it is a
MOSFET RF Power Amp, Model 4112A(?).  The model number is smudged, so I
can't be certain of it.

The main PC board has two F1260 silicon VDMOS transistors working in
parallel.  These transistors are rated at 60 watts each, but I'm getting
only 22 watts out with 5 watts input.  There is a second PC board that
controls the fan, but otherwise this is a single stage PA.

I'd appreciate hearing from anyone who has knowledge of and/or tech data
on this amplifier.  Thanks!

73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY






 
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[Repeater-Builder] Re: portable/mobile GMRS repeater antenna

2005-03-20 Thread rtoplus


Ok...got everything together for the station...now one last 
question.  I know its not required, but I want to put an ID'er on 
the setup.  To refresh memories, I'm using a couple of maxtracs and 
a R.I.C.K. for a controller with the XMTR turned down to about 20 
watts into the duplexer.  Aside with going with another controller 
(I've got the R.I.C.K velcroe'd to the top of my little repeater 
box), any recommendations for an id'er?  Or would it be simpler to 
invest in a basic controller with an ID function?  If the former, 
will I need to dig into the guts of the radios or can an ID'r be 
interfaced with the R.I.C.Kby the way, I have an I20-R that has 
internal ID functions and is about the same size as my R.I.C.K. that 
I could use, but its sick...it refuses to pass any audio.

Ideas?

Thanks
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Hyper Terminal

2005-03-20 Thread K. Venkataramanan




Hi
Hyperterm is available for download for at

ftp://ftp.hilgraeve.com/htpe/htpe63.exe
It is free personal users.
Venkataramanan

At 12:54 PM 20/03/2005, you wrote:

Is it a download from the MS web
site?
If so, what is the url ?
Mike
At 11:01 PM 3/19/05, you wrote:
Don,

We have several PC's that use HyperTerminal for communications to
other
equipment. we have had a lot of problems using HyperTerminal until
we
install the latest release. This is the one from Microsoft. They
have
cleaned up a lot of the problems that the earlier versions had. The
new
release is good for Windows 98 and above.

We have not had a single problem with the new release. We are using
it on 98
and 98SE, NT 4.0 SP4 and SP6, 2000, 2000 Pro and XP Pro.

Every machine now works and all of the problems that we had are
gone.

Charles Miller

- Original Message -
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Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2005 11:21 AM
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Hyper Terminal


 
 
  I have a Digital audio recorder that is Programmed by the PC
But I did
  see this Note, The device may not Program Properly with
the
  HyperTerminal program that comes with Microsoft Windows all
versions,
  So the question I have What else is around that I could try,
Any info
  will be greatly appreciated.
 
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Falcon Communications MOSFET Power Amp

2005-03-20 Thread Doug

At 08:39 AM 3/20/2005, you wrote:


Eric:

I remember Falcon Ads for these amps I think in both QST and 73
Magazine.  There might
have even been an article on them in 73 Magazine.

There was a announcement of one of their amplifiers in the July issue of
1984 issue of ham
radio.  There was also an ad on page 24 of that same issue.

I don't remember much about them, but I remember having a favorable
impression about them.
Not that helpful, but I can send you copies of the pages that I mentioned.

Regards,

Micheal Salem  N5MS


Eric Lemmon wrote:
--
We have had a vhf model on our repeater for a few years. When new, it had to
be returned due to instability. We have also never been able to get 100 watts
out of it. The most is 70watts and the fets did not last.  The fets may not be
  available now. They were hard to find and very very expensive. I would not
recommend that amp. I have used a micor and it is much better.

Cheers

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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: 12vdc or 120vac Fan?

2005-03-20 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Thanks Mike

since we are going to run dc for portable use I will check while it is on the 
bench.bob

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[Repeater-Builder] RLS1000B, WX-200 and Cat 1000B Hookip

2005-03-20 Thread w9mwq


I am in the process of hooking up the RLS1000 to my Cat1000B 
Controller, but I also have a WX-200 hooked up to the system.  The 
instruction tells me to wire control lines 5,6, and 7 to J1 on the 
Cat1000, but that is where I have control lines for the WX-200.  
There is connections already made at 5 and 6, and 7 is open.  Do I 
piggy back them together?  Or what should be done here?  HELP.

Thanks

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Re: [Repeater-Builder] -- New Product Announcement from Repeater Builder --

2005-03-20 Thread James

put me down as a customer



Kevin Custer wrote:

 Hi All,

 You may remember the thread on audio quality a while back.  One topic 
 was a replacement module for the stock audio processing circuitry 
 which is a major cause of limited audio bandwidth from some 
 manufacturers and models of equipment used to build repeaters and 
 links from.  Some time ago, a prototype boards were built, sold and 
 tested to finalize the hardware design and verify circuit performance 
 of this new Audio Processing concept.  I am happy to announce the 
 revised edition of the Audio Processor (clipper/filter) module from 
 Repeater Builder.  We are tentatively calling it the AP-50

 The new product is mostly surface mount to minimize size and allow an 
 installation concept similar to the Com-Spec TS-64.  The product can 
 be used stand alone in existing repeater/link applications, or, 
 available as an option for use directly with modern repeater 
 controllers.  The Arcom RC-810 is one such product that will 
 accommodate the RB module to allow infinitely adjustable audio 
 processing, per port.  If you haven't heard about the Arcom RC-810, 
 don't worry, you will.

 We are working with an American board house and hope to have available 
 product for Dayton 2005.

 Details on the AP-50:

 Description:
 This is a Audio Processing Module to replace the Blob or stock 
 clipper/filter sections in Two-Way FM radio transmitters.  While this 
 circuitry was designed for use in a repeater or repeater controller, 
 it could be used to feed a modulator directly from a discriminator 
 source like in cross band repeaters or links.  The module has 3 
 controls for setting the amount of clipping (processing), the cut-off 
 frequency of the low pass filter (bandwidth), and the amount of 
 deviation.  The module also has jumpers to 'program' the type of audio 
 feeding the module, and what feeds the modulator.  The jumpers allow 
 either pre-emphasized or normal audio to feed the clipper, and allow 
 either de-emphasized or normal audio output to feed the modulator; 
 which accommodates either a FM or PM exciter to be properly 
 modulated.  The low pass filter has an elliptic response created by a 
 switched capacitor filter to provide 'brick-wall' filtering.  The 
 cut-off frequency is set by adjusting a potentiometer.  The 
 approximate cut-off range is between 2500 and 5500 Hz to accommodate 
 anything from 15 KHz spaced 2 meter pairs to 25 KHz spaced link or 
 auxiliary allocations.  The module is capacitively coupled with 10 uF 
 Non Polarized capacitors on the input and output to ensure low 
 frequency response.  The module has a 5 pin header to allow either a 
 connectorized cord for stand alone installations, or be plugged 
 directly onto a option connector in supporting repeater controllers.

 The module has a dedicated PL or CTCSS input after the processor to 
 insure proper low distortion modulation of PL tones.  This input is 
 DC coupled and can be driven directly by modern CTCSS/PL modules like 
 the Com-Spec TS-64.

 Concept:
 The module is used to process audio feeding a FM or PM modulated 
 transmitter.  Many times the stock audio processing (clipper/filter) 
 section of a transmitter can limit the audio bandwidth of the system.  
 By using this module, a set-able frequency bandwidth is obtained in 
 addition to amplitude limiting.  A custom integrated circuit is used 
 to do most of the processing, including amplitude limiting and 
 set-able frequency filtering.  The custom chip is provided voltage 
 from an on-board regulator to ensure stable operation.  A second 
 integrated circuit op-amp is used to buffer the output of the custom 
 chip to drive low impedance modulators directly.

 Specifications:
 Power Source  +11 to +16 VDC 
 Board is Reverse Polarity Protected
 LPF Cutoff Frequency -  2500 to 5500 Hz.
 Frequency Response Less than 50 Hz. to 90% of Fc - +/- .25 dB Typical
 Minimum Audio Input Level 200 mV P-P
 Input Impedance approximately 10 K ohms
 Output Impedance approximately 100 ohms
 Maximum Audio Output Level  8 Volts P-P
 LPF Rolloff -30 dB at 144% of Fc
 Very Low Distortion and Group Delay

 Features:
 Brick Wall Filtering
 Dedicated PL Tone Input
 Wide Frequency Response, great for Flat Audio repeaters and links, 
 or standard ones
 Low Power Consumption
 Adjustable Clip Level (level of process), LP Filter Cut-Off (audio 
 bandwidth), and Deviation Level (loudness)
 Small Size (about 1.2 X 1.8 inches)
 Simple to hook-up and set-up
 Board is reverse polarity protected


 Stay tuned for more information on this new exciting product from 
 Repeater Builder.
 Repeater Builder (the company) is a subsidiary of Zimmerman Electronics

 Kevin Custer - M. Scott Zimmerman

  












 
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: portable/mobile GMRS repeater antenna

2005-03-20 Thread Tom Parker






The RICK has a 16 pin
accessory connector on the back of it. You should be able to connect
the ID'er there.

rtoplus wrote:

  

Ok...got everything together for the station...now one last 
question.  I know its not required, but I want to put an ID'er on 
the setup.  To refresh memories, I'm using a couple of maxtracs and 
a R.I.C.K. for a controller with the XMTR turned down to about 20 
watts into the duplexer.  Aside with going with another controller 
(I've got the R.I.C.K velcroe'd to the top of my little repeater 
box), any recommendations for an id'er?  Or would it be simpler to 
invest in a basic controller with an ID function?  If the former, 
will I need to "dig into" the guts of the radios or can an ID'r be 
interfaced with the R.I.C.Kby the way, I have an I20-R that has 
internal ID functions and is about the same size as my R.I.C.K. that 
I could use, but its sick...it refuses to pass any audio.

Ideas?

Thanks
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[Repeater-Builder] Re: RLS1000B, WX-200 and Cat 1000B Hookip

2005-03-20 Thread hwingate


The CAT1000 has 8 outputs, pins 5,6,7 are outputs 1,2,3. Just
connect to 3 other outputs ( ex. pins18,19,20) and change the output
statements in your macros to reflect the change. Do not use the same
pins or you will have interaction between the two devices.



--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, w9mwq [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 I am in the process of hooking up the RLS1000 to my Cat1000B 
 Controller, but I also have a WX-200 hooked up to the system.  The 
 instruction tells me to wire control lines 5,6, and 7 to J1 on the 
 Cat1000, but that is where I have control lines for the WX-200.  
 There is connections already made at 5 and 6, and 7 is open.  Do I 
 piggy back them together?  Or what should be done here?  HELP.
 
 Thanks
 
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Falcon Communications MOSFET Power Amp

2005-03-20 Thread Eric Lemmon

Micheal,

Thanks for the offer, and I accept.  Please contact me offline at
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY

Micheal Salem N5MS wrote:

 Eric:

 ... There was a announcement of one of their amplifiers in the July issue of
 1984 issue of ham radio.  There was also an ad on page 24 of that same
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] -- New Product Announcement from Repeater Builder --

2005-03-20 Thread Kevin Custer

James wrote:

put me down as a customer
  


Hi James,

Here is the latest on the AP-50.
http://www.repeater-builder.com/products/ap-50.html

Kevin Custer


Kevin Custer wrote:

  

Hi All,

You may remember the thread on audio quality a while back.  One topic 
was a replacement module for the stock audio processing circuitry 
which is a major cause of limited audio bandwidth from some 
manufacturers and models of equipment used to build repeaters and 
links from.  Some time ago, prototype boards were built, sold and 
tested to finalize the hardware design and verify circuit performance 
of this new Audio Processing concept.  I am happy to announce the 
revised edition of the Audio Processor (clipper/filter) module from 
Repeater Builder.  We are tentatively calling it the AP-50






 
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[Repeater-Builder] Re: Was portable GMRS repeater antenna...now ID'er

2005-03-20 Thread rtoplus


Hi Tom

Do you have a recommendation of a brand/model? I wondered about 
using the accessory connector but wasn't sure.  Guess the next thing 
is how to figure out programming the RSS to allow for this to work 
or is that necessary?

Thanks Tom
Bob, GMRS WPVV845, Amateur KG4WAD, LMRS WPXC892


--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Tom Parker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 The RICK has a 16 pin accessory connector on the back of it.  You 
should 
 be able to connect the ID'er there.
 
 rtoplus wrote:
 
 
 Ok...got everything together for the station...now one last 
 question.  I know its not required, but I want to put an ID'er on 
 the setup.  To refresh memories, I'm using a couple of maxtracs 
and 
 a R.I.C.K. for a controller with the XMTR turned down to about 20 
 watts into the duplexer.  Aside with going with another 
controller 
 (I've got the R.I.C.K velcroe'd to the top of my little repeater 
 box), any recommendations for an id'er?  Or would it be simpler 
to 
 invest in a basic controller with an ID function?  If the former, 
 will I need to dig into the guts of the radios or can an ID'r 
be 
 interfaced with the R.I.C.Kby the way, I have an I20-R that 
has 
 internal ID functions and is about the same size as my R.I.C.K. 
that 
 I could use, but its sick...it refuses to pass any audio.
 
 Ideas?
 
 Thanks
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: RLS1000B, WX-200 and Cat 1000B Hookip

2005-03-20 Thread Mathew Quaife



Thanks for the reply. This is kind of what I was thinking, but will the COR switches correspond to the other outputs?

Mathew
hwingate [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The CAT1000 has 8 outputs, pins 5,6,7 are outputs 1,2,3. Justconnect to 3 other outputs ( ex. pins18,19,20) and change the outputstatements in your macros to reflect the change. Do not use the samepins or you will have interaction between the two devices.--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, "w9mwq" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:  I am in the process of hooking up the RLS1000 to my Cat1000B  Controller, but I also have a WX-200 hooked up to the system. The  instruction tells me to wire control lines 5,6, and 7 to J1 on the  Cat1000, but that is where I have control lines for the WX-200.  There is connections already made at 5 and 6, and 7 is open. Do I  piggy back them together? Or what should be done here? HELP.  Thanks 
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] WTB Decibel Products 4041 H-2 Cavities

2005-03-20 Thread rogeradio



Jeff,

I'veexhausted my ideas for shipping two of those 43 MHz cavitiesfrom Philadelphia to Seattle. Until I come up with an epiphany idea, I'm putting this idea on the back-burner and let it simmer.

The purpose of this message isfor follow-up on my previous messagethat I wasworking on a shipping solution.

Roger Hansen, W6TOZ, 443.675/r, 443.775/r
Auburn, WA-Original Message-From: Jeff DePolo WN3A [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.comSent: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 16:05:06 -0500Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] WTB Decibel Products 4041 H-2 Cavities


 
I have a few of the dentless variety on 43.something MHz.  How would you get
them to you from Philadelphia? 
 
--- Jeff
 

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I Want (want -my foot) - I NEED two PD 4041 Cavities.  They are in the 40-50
MHz range.
 
No sell-a-dent please. 
 
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[Repeater-Builder] Re: Want to learn more about 10m and lowband repeaters

2005-03-20 Thread eaulive2002



So... nobody?

--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, eaulive2002
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 
 Hi.
 
 I have two home made repeaters on the air below 30MHz and I would love
 to learn more about these when they are professionally installed and
 designed.
 
 If you could point me to technical sites talking about duplexers,
 cavities, amplifiers, antennas and such, it would be greatly
appreciated.
 
 Also if you have any experience in the field and have a web site put
 up, please by all means, indicate the link!
 
 Thanks to all.
 
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[Repeater-Builder] Re: Standard RP70U help? Thanks!

2005-03-20 Thread vesterscott


Mike, Brent, Jack...Great feedback.

The RP70U is currently on 456.825 in/451.8625 out. The modified 
repeater will be 445.800 in/440.800 out (if I'm lucky).

The advance warnings/tips you guys provided on the duplexer, mic 
connectors, manual, and volume/squelch controls will surely head off 
a lot of trouble.

An original Owner's Operating and Maintenance Manual came with the 
RP70U, But I have not yet compared it with what's at www.repeater-
builder.com. BTW, my scanner only goes to 8.5 x 14, so if anybody 
with a bigger scanner cares to add anything to the Files section 
from my manual that's not there already let me know at vesterscott @ 
bellsouth.net and I'll loan it to you.

Jack, is a flatpack duplexer like the small black Celwave mobile 
duplexers that pop up on eBay all the time? Don't believe I've heard 
that term before.

Brent, do each of the CTN34 tone boards perform both encode and 
decode. IOW, if I want the same tone in and out, will a single board 
give me full CTCSS for any given tone? I was not able to reach a 
firm conclusion on that from the manual and schematics.

73,

Vester N8EKA



--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, vesterscott 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 I picked up a Standard RP70U 12W UHF/FM repeater/base station 
today 
 at a local hamfest--complete with AP70 phone patch, one TN34 tone 
 board, and the operating/maintenance manual. I'm hoping to morph 
it 
 into a 445.75/440.75 or 445.80/440.80 portable/itinerant repeater. 
 For starters, I obviously need to re-crystal it. If anybody here 
has 
 done this already I'd appreciate any additional 
 suggestions/comments/guidance you can provide.
 
 I can also use one more TN34 tone board if somebody has a spare 
 lying around.
 
 Thanks.
 
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Standard RP70U help? Thanks!

2005-03-20 Thread Brent

Yes, the repeater is capable of using two tone boards.
and They can only enc and dec the same freq tone. so if it is set to 114.8hz
on the rx it will tx 114.8 also..
Brent


 Brent, do each of the CTN34 tone boards perform both encode and
 decode. IOW, if I want the same tone in and out, will a single board
 give me full CTCSS for any given tone? I was not able to reach a
 firm conclusion on that from the manual and s
- Original Message -
From: vesterscott [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, March 20, 2005 3:31 PM
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Standard RP70U help? Thanks!




 Mike, Brent, Jack...Great feedback.

 The RP70U is currently on 456.825 in/451.8625 out. The modified
 repeater will be 445.800 in/440.800 out (if I'm lucky).

 The advance warnings/tips you guys provided on the duplexer, mic
 connectors, manual, and volume/squelch controls will surely head off
 a lot of trouble.

 An original Owner's Operating and Maintenance Manual came with the
 RP70U, But I have not yet compared it with what's at www.repeater-
 builder.com. BTW, my scanner only goes to 8.5 x 14, so if anybody
 with a bigger scanner cares to add anything to the Files section
 from my manual that's not there already let me know at vesterscott @
 bellsouth.net and I'll loan it to you.

 Jack, is a flatpack duplexer like the small black Celwave mobile
 duplexers that pop up on eBay all the time? Don't believe I've heard
 that term before.

 Brent, do each of the CTN34 tone boards perform both encode and
 decode. IOW, if I want the same tone in and out, will a single board
 give me full CTCSS for any given tone? I was not able to reach a
 firm conclusion on that from the manual and schematics.

 73,

 Vester N8EKA



 --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, vesterscott
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  I picked up a Standard RP70U 12W UHF/FM repeater/base station
 today
  at a local hamfest--complete with AP70 phone patch, one TN34 tone
  board, and the operating/maintenance manual. I'm hoping to morph
 it
  into a 445.75/440.75 or 445.80/440.80 portable/itinerant repeater.
  For starters, I obviously need to re-crystal it. If anybody here
 has
  done this already I'd appreciate any additional
  suggestions/comments/guidance you can provide.
 
  I can also use one more TN34 tone board if somebody has a spare
  lying around.
 
  Thanks.
 
  Vester N8EKA








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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Want to learn more about 10m and lowband repeaters

2005-03-20 Thread DCFluX

I'll bite.

I am not licensed for this part of the band so alot of my information
is here say.

This is a chalanging band for a repeater as the agreed upon split is
only 100kHz.  and it is further complicated by the fact that there are
only 4 official pairs in the FM portion of the band.

All of the repeaters I have heard of are all split site with 3 miles
minimum between RX and TX.  Usually these are assembled by using a Low
band Mastr-II and a UHF and swaping the UHFs RX and with the one in
the Low band chassis and vice versa to create a integrated link radio,
just add NHRC controllers in the MASTR-II version.

Rumors are that the Heliplexer will work if calculated to 10M, but
you will need 8 sections minimum and they will be approx 10-12' long. 
The one commercial Low Band repeater I have seen used 2 of the approx
7 ft tall 16 dia decibal products cavitys with hybrid rings attached,
but the split was about 38MHz and 42 MHz out.

For antennas you should consider a single folded dipole for each site,
which can be easilly constructed with 1/2or 3/4 copper water pipe.
There are some plans bouncing around of an Aluminum Angle iron version
but I don't care what your friend said, avoid Aluminum at all costs
for anything! Just, Don't do it.

CB antennas may provide decent results as well as the classic J pole.


On Sun, 20 Mar 2005 20:53:21 -, eaulive2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 
 So... nobody?
 
 --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, eaulive2002
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 
  Hi.
 
  I have two home made repeaters on the air below 30MHz and I would love
  to learn more about these when they are professionally installed and
  designed.
 
  If you could point me to technical sites talking about duplexers,
  cavities, amplifiers, antennas and such, it would be greatly
 appreciated.
 
  Also if you have any experience in the field and have a web site put
  up, please by all means, indicate the link!
 
  Thanks to all.
 
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Standard RP70U help? Thanks!

2005-03-20 Thread DCFluX

We had a RP-70U here and we converted it to Low TX and High RX  444.3
and 449.3 and yes, the stock duplexer did work lousy. But the repeater
was somewhat usable.

I also had a problem with the Ebay special our group aquired, which
was jammed into transmit.  I traced it down to a Jammed on PNP
transistor in the exciter on the PTT line.


On Sun, 20 Mar 2005 15:34:34 -0600, Brent [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Yes, the repeater is capable of using two tone boards.
 and They can only enc and dec the same freq tone. so if it is set to 114.8hz
 on the rx it will tx 114.8 also..
 Brent
 
 
  Brent, do each of the CTN34 tone boards perform both encode and
  decode. IOW, if I want the same tone in and out, will a single board
  give me full CTCSS for any given tone? I was not able to reach a
  firm conclusion on that from the manual and s
 - Original Message -
 From: vesterscott [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
 Sent: Sunday, March 20, 2005 3:31 PM
 Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Standard RP70U help? Thanks!
 
 
 
  Mike, Brent, Jack...Great feedback.
 
  The RP70U is currently on 456.825 in/451.8625 out. The modified
  repeater will be 445.800 in/440.800 out (if I'm lucky).
 
  The advance warnings/tips you guys provided on the duplexer, mic
  connectors, manual, and volume/squelch controls will surely head off
  a lot of trouble.
 
  An original Owner's Operating and Maintenance Manual came with the
  RP70U, But I have not yet compared it with what's at www.repeater-
  builder.com. BTW, my scanner only goes to 8.5 x 14, so if anybody
  with a bigger scanner cares to add anything to the Files section
  from my manual that's not there already let me know at vesterscott @
  bellsouth.net and I'll loan it to you.
 
  Jack, is a flatpack duplexer like the small black Celwave mobile
  duplexers that pop up on eBay all the time? Don't believe I've heard
  that term before.
 
  Brent, do each of the CTN34 tone boards perform both encode and
  decode. IOW, if I want the same tone in and out, will a single board
  give me full CTCSS for any given tone? I was not able to reach a
  firm conclusion on that from the manual and schematics.
 
  73,
 
  Vester N8EKA
 
 
 
  --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, vesterscott
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   I picked up a Standard RP70U 12W UHF/FM repeater/base station
  today
   at a local hamfest--complete with AP70 phone patch, one TN34 tone
   board, and the operating/maintenance manual. I'm hoping to morph
  it
   into a 445.75/440.75 or 445.80/440.80 portable/itinerant repeater.
   For starters, I obviously need to re-crystal it. If anybody here
  has
   done this already I'd appreciate any additional
   suggestions/comments/guidance you can provide.
  
   I can also use one more TN34 tone board if somebody has a spare
   lying around.
  
   Thanks.
  
   Vester N8EKA
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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[Repeater-Builder] cleaning shack garage stuff for sale

2005-03-20 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Hello all im cleaning out and have things that I need to get rid of 
MOTOROLA VHF SYNTOR - X SERVICE MANUAL
MOTOROLA VHF DVP MICOR BASE  REPEATER MANUAL
MOTOROLA GR 400  GR500 X PAND REPEATERS MANUAL
 5.00 each plus postage 

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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Hyper Terminal

2005-03-20 Thread Mark Holman





They did enclose that w/ windows O/S es as part of 
the package deal unless there is something extra I don't know 
about.


Mark Holmanmark.holman at talkamerica dot net

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  K. 
  Venkataramanan 
  To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
  
  Sent: Sunday, March 20, 2005 10:35 
  AM
  Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Hyper 
  Terminal
  HiHyperterm is available for download for 
  atftp://ftp.hilgraeve.com/htpe/htpe63.exeIt is free 
  personal users.VenkataramananAt 12:54 PM 20/03/2005, you 
  wrote:
  Is it a download from the MS web 
site?If so, what is the url ?MikeAt 11:01 PM 3/19/05, 
you wrote:Don,We have several PC's that use 
HyperTerminal for communications to otherequipment. we have had a 
lot of problems using HyperTerminal until weinstall the latest 
release. This is the one from Microsoft. They havecleaned up a lot 
of the problems that the earlier versions had. The newrelease is 
good for Windows 98 and above.We have not had a single 
problem with the new release. We are using it on 98and 98SE, NT 4.0 
SP4 and SP6, 2000, 2000 Pro and XP Pro.Every machine now 
works and all of the problems that we had are gone.Charles 
Miller- Original Message -From: "Don" 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]To: 
Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.comSent: Saturday, March 19, 
2005 11:21 AMSubject: [Repeater-Builder] Hyper 
TerminalI have a 
Digital audio recorder that is Programmed by the PC But I did  
see this Note, The device may not Program Properly with the  
HyperTerminal program that comes with Microsoft Windows all 
versions,  So the question I have What else is around that I 
could try, Any info  will be greatly appreciated. 
  Thanks Don KA9QJG   
 
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Hyper Terminal

2005-03-20 Thread John Crawford

The version that's linked from hilgraeve.com's website is a newer, 
likely improved, version than the version that's bundled with Windows.

John

Mark Holman wrote:

 They did enclose that w/ windows O/S es as part of the package deal 
 unless there is something extra I don't know about.
  
  
 Mark Holman
 mark.holman at talkamerica dot net

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 *From:* K. Venkataramanan mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 *To:* Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
 mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
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 *Subject:* Re: [Repeater-Builder] Hyper Terminal

 Hi
 Hyperterm is available for download for at

 ftp://ftp.hilgraeve.com/htpe/htpe63.exe

 It is free personal users.

 Venkataramanan


 At 12:54 PM 20/03/2005, you wrote:


 Is it a download from the MS web site?
 If so, what is the url ?

 Mike

 At 11:01 PM 3/19/05, you wrote:

 Don,
 
 We have several PC's that use HyperTerminal for communications
 to other
 equipment. we have had a lot of problems using HyperTerminal
 until we
 install the latest release. This is the one from Microsoft. They
 have
 cleaned up a lot of the problems that the earlier versions had.
 The new
 release is good for Windows 98 and above.
 
 We have not had a single problem with the new release. We are
 using it on 98
 and 98SE, NT 4.0 SP4 and SP6, 2000, 2000 Pro and XP Pro.
 
 Every machine now works and all of the problems that we had are
 gone.
 
 Charles Miller
 
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 To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
 Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2005 11:21 AM
 Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Hyper Terminal
 
 
  
  
   I have a Digital audio recorder that is Programmed by the PC
 But I did
   see this Note, The device may not Program Properly with the
   HyperTerminal program that comes with Microsoft Windows all
 versions,
   So the question I have What else is around that I could try,
 Any info
   will be greatly appreciated.
  
   Thanks Don KA9QJG
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
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[Repeater-Builder] GE amp board identification

2005-03-20 Thread Thomas Oliver





number on board = 327014G3

I have some boards I need help identifying they are for MVP Exec II complete boards but missing the 1 stud mounted transistor and both flange mounted transistors.

They are new old stock and could be 5 or 20 watt boards (I think) with the addition of the stud mounted transistor andone flange mounted transistor. They do not have components for the second flange mounted transistor.

Does anyone know what band and split these are for? I think they are UHF but not sure.

Are the final transistors stillavailable ? Part numbers? Anyone have any?

I would sell some for $10.00 ea. plus shipping if interested.

Can send pics if interested.

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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Standard RP70U help? Thanks!

2005-03-20 Thread Jack Davis

Vester,

A flatpack is another name for the mobile duplexers made by several 
companies.  They are generally painted black and are flat.  Most are notch 
type and some are helical resonators rather than actual cavities.  They work 
OK in a soft RF environment, not so good at a high level site.

Jack
K6YC
- Original Message - 
From: vesterscott [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, March 20, 2005 1:31 PM
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Standard RP70U help? Thanks!




 Mike, Brent, Jack...Great feedback.

 The RP70U is currently on 456.825 in/451.8625 out. The modified
 repeater will be 445.800 in/440.800 out (if I'm lucky).

 The advance warnings/tips you guys provided on the duplexer, mic
 connectors, manual, and volume/squelch controls will surely head off
 a lot of trouble.

 An original Owner's Operating and Maintenance Manual came with the
 RP70U, But I have not yet compared it with what's at www.repeater-
 builder.com. BTW, my scanner only goes to 8.5 x 14, so if anybody
 with a bigger scanner cares to add anything to the Files section
 from my manual that's not there already let me know at vesterscott @
 bellsouth.net and I'll loan it to you.

 Jack, is a flatpack duplexer like the small black Celwave mobile
 duplexers that pop up on eBay all the time? Don't believe I've heard
 that term before.

 Brent, do each of the CTN34 tone boards perform both encode and
 decode. IOW, if I want the same tone in and out, will a single board
 give me full CTCSS for any given tone? I was not able to reach a
 firm conclusion on that from the manual and schematics.

 73,

 Vester N8EKA



 --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, vesterscott
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I picked up a Standard RP70U 12W UHF/FM repeater/base station
 today
 at a local hamfest--complete with AP70 phone patch, one TN34 tone
 board, and the operating/maintenance manual. I'm hoping to morph
 it
 into a 445.75/440.75 or 445.80/440.80 portable/itinerant repeater.
 For starters, I obviously need to re-crystal it. If anybody here
 has
 done this already I'd appreciate any additional
 suggestions/comments/guidance you can provide.

 I can also use one more TN34 tone board if somebody has a spare
 lying around.

 Thanks.

 Vester N8EKA








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