Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Bad adapter

[neal Newman]

you wont notice the loss...
 My club just Put up a New antenna and New 7/8 hardline. the hardline was about 
200 feet. the Tower Guy dropped a knife.  1 in a million shot and cut the 
hardline at the base of the Tower.
I spliced the cable using 2- 7/8" EIA flanged Connectors because that what I 
had  available in my truck at the time. taped it up. No Noticable loss at all.  
Tested with a network analyzer showed a  Very small almost un-noticable bump in 
the cable where the splice was. If I worried about insertion loss at Every 
Connector I would give up owning 6 repeaters.

Of course you  have you use high quality connectors.

The worst Connectors are 90 degree connectors. they use a Cheap spring inside. 
that heats up and opens like a Fuse over time.

Neal-ka2caf


--- On Tue, 4/22/08, Wayne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> From: Wayne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Bad adapter
> To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Tuesday, April 22, 2008, 3:00 PM
> Looking at the pictures gives me a couple of ideas.
>   first is that the person who cut the heliax must be
> really dense to think  
> he could get away with it. All one needs to do is trace
> that other coax to  
> wherever. Plus it might be possible to lift fingerprints
> from the heliax.
>   Second, looks like the Heliax could be spliced back
> together with proper  
> connector(s), but would be a job and a bit of a bump in
> loss?
>   I actually have a question here about loss. What would be
> the loss in one  
> male and one female 7/8" N connector for Heliax? My
> thought is with the  
> idea of possibly moving my antenna in the future, if I can
> eventually  
> manage a taller tower.
>   I see all kinds of loss calculators for cables
> themselves, but no  
> mentions of same for assorted connectors.
>   YMMV
> 
>   Wayne WA2YNE
> 
> 
> On Sun, 20 Apr 2008 19:56:37 -0500, ka9qjg
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > That Picture give the Term Low Loss Coax a New
> meaning, what an idiot
> > who ever it was , Thanks for posting I would of not
> believed it had I
> > not seen the Pic
> > Happy Repeater Building
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Bad adapter

[Wayne]

  For the record, the Andrews web site seems to still be down. Means all  
info I fiond is from other web sites, vendors, etc...

  Also, it seems that Andrews has discontinued a couple of types of Heliax,  
including what I have. One person came up with them only making it with  
aluminum outer shield. Not true, they are making both aluminum and copper  
types...

  Still looking for info on connectors and loss. If anyone has the andrews  
catalog in pdf, would it be possible to either email it or upload it  
somewhere so others of us could obtain it?
  Thanks...

  Wayne WA2YNE


On Mon, 21 Apr 2008 14:31:08 -0500, Ralph Messer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  
wrote:

> Wayne
>
> If you have access to a Andrew catalog number 37  Look on page 588  
> bottom right of the page I think this will answer your question
>
> Ralph Messer
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Bad adapter

[Wayne]

  Sorry, I don't have an Andrews catalog other than what can be found  
online.
  That is a bit of information that is not often mentioned, the insertion  
loss for various connectors, etc...

  Wayne WA2YNE

On Mon, 21 Apr 2008 14:31:08 -0500, Ralph Messer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  
wrote:

> Wayne
>
> If you have access to a Andrew catalog number 37  Look on page 588  
> bottom right of the page I think this will answer your question
>
> Ralph Messer
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>   - Original Message -
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> Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
>   Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2008 3:00 PM
>   Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Bad adapter
>
>
> Looking at the pictures gives me a couple of ideas.
> first is that the person who cut the heliax must be really dense to  
> think
>   he could get away with it. All one needs to do is trace that other  
> coax to
>   wherever. Plus it might be possible to lift fingerprints from the  
> heliax.
> Second, looks like the Heliax could be spliced back together with  
> proper
>   connector(s), but would be a job and a bit of a bump in loss?
> I actually have a question here about loss. What would be the loss  
> in one
>   male and one female 7/8" N connector for Heliax? My thought is with the
>   idea of possibly moving my antenna in the future, if I can eventually
>   manage a taller tower.
> I see all kinds of loss calculators for cables themselves, but no
>   mentions of same for assorted connectors.
> YMMV
>
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[Repeater-Builder] Re: Carrier Control Timer (use the COR-2 circuit)

[skipp025]

The 555 will do the job just fine... you need only configure it 
properly, which for me ended up being the same circuit Hamtronics 
used in their early COR-2 Board. Simply copy that circuit less 
the hang timer portion and you're set. 

I wish I could claim credit for it... but the circuit design 
was originally done by Hamtronics (Jerry). I and a few other 
group members can Email you the diagram if you contact us direct 
off the list. Most of us group readers via the web don't receive 
email attachments through the yahoo groups anyway.  

The really nice thing about billing things from kits is how you 
end up keeping good circuits around for use in other applications. 
The COR 2 Circuit is a great circuit, wish they still made and 
sold the kit, but now I "roll my own". 

cheers, 
skipp 
skipp025 at yahoo.com 

> "w6jll" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> With regard to Tom's use of a carrier control timer - I am using GE 
> EXEC II and MVP's in my system. Although I have relied on the external 
> controller's time out functions, I would like to have a "backup" timer 
> in the transmitters that would take the repeater transmitter off the 
> air at say 10 minutes, if for some reason the contoller circuit failed. 
> I've looked at the 555 but the problem is that in the monostable mode, 
> the pulse input to start 
> the cycle has to be shorter than the timing cycle (according to some 
> design notes, about 1/3rd or less). Obviously, this won't work for the 
> intended application since the pulse (key down) would be longer than 
> the timing cycle. I'm sure someone on the bulletin board has 
> designed/implemented what I'm looking for. Any thoughts would be 
> appreciated. TNX Fred W6JLL
>

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Carrier Control Timer

[Paul Plack]

Pull the trigger low through a capacitor...it will magically become a
low-going pulse.
 
73,
Paul, AE4KR

  _  

From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of w6jll
Sent: Monday, April 21, 2008 5:03 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Carrier Control Timer



With regard to Tom's use of a carrier control timer - I am using GE 
EXEC II and MVP's in my system. Although I have relied on the external 
controller's time out functions, I would like to have a "backup" timer 
in the transmitters that would take the repeater transmitter off the 
air at say 10 minutes, if for some reason the contoller circuit failed. 
I've looked at the 555 but the problem is that in the monostable mode, 
the pulse input to start 
the cycle has to be shorter than the timing cycle (according to some 
design notes, about 1/3rd or less). Obviously, this won't work for the 
intended application since the pulse (key down) would be longer than 
the timing cycle. I'm sure someone on the bulletin board has 
designed/implemented what I'm looking for. Any thoughts would be 
appreciated. TNX Fred W6JLL



 

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Super StationmasterT Omni Fiberglass Antenna, information wanted

[MCH]

I thought it was 4.5, but I'll accept your figure of 4.8 dB.

Interestingly enough, that Wiscointl link someone provided says 5.25 for 
the entire 136-174 MHz segment (except the DT model).

Joe M.

Eric Lemmon wrote:
> Joe,
> 
> RFS/Celwave continues to manufacture the Super StationMaster antennas
> pioneered by Phelps-Dodge.  Go here:
> 
> for the data sheet.  The PD220-2N antenna is designed to cover the 142-150
> MHz band, but the gain is limited to 4.8 dBd due to length constraints.
> 
> 73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY
>  
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Joe
> Sent: Monday, April 21, 2008 4:40 PM
> To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Super StationmasterT Omni Fiberglass Antenna,
> information wanted
> 
> Does anyone have the spec sheet for the Super StationmasterT Omni 
> Fiberglass Antenna PD-220 for 2 meters?  All I find are general specs 
> from 25-299.9Mhz.  I'm looking for actual gain in dBd and bandwidth.
> 
> 73, Joe, K1ike
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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> 
> 
> 
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> 

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Antenna Question

[Eric Lemmon]

Christopher,

According to my CommShop program, a 144 MHz repeater with a 50 watt
transmitter and a receiver having 0.3 uV sensitivity will require around 90
dB of isolation to avoid desense with a typical receiver.  That isolation
can be achieved with about 220 feet of vertical separation or about 21,300
feet (four miles!) of horizontal separation.  I made the assumption that
you're planning a 2m repeater, which has only 600 kHz of TX-RX separation.
If the repeater is going to be a 70cm machine, with 5 MHz separation, the
numbers are easier to swallow.  With the same power level and sensitivity, a
vertical separation of 40 feet or a horizontal separation of 975 feet would
give the needed 72 dB isolation.

73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY
 

-Original Message-
From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Christopher Hodgdon
Sent: Monday, April 21, 2008 7:00 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Antenna Question

We are looking at setting up a basic (I know there is no such thing)
repeater. What I need to know, if you do not have a duplexer to run
your antenna through, but have two antennas, with one on the TX and
one on the RX how far apart do they have to be to be able to correctly
operate?

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Hijack (WAS: Bad adapter)

[Wayne]

  Would be better to catch the person in the act and then use a Burdizzo on  
him, ha ha ha...
  Or maybe put a band on him like I did with my former buckling.
  Then toss him over the edge into a stand of Mesquite
  Yes, I can think of some things to get even...

  Wayne WA2YNE


On Mon, 21 Apr 2008 09:55:26 -0500, n9wys <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> And most likely a violation of federal statutes for disrupting the
> communications system (Jeff's)...
>
> But other than targeting the club/company that owns the "offending"  
> station
> (the one that the RG-58 was connected to) you'd be hard pressed to charge
> any individual... because in most cases, you have to prove criminal  
> intent
> on the part of the individual.  And without evidence indicating WHO cut  
> the
> coax and soldered on the RG-58,  I don't think there's a District  
> Attorney
> or State's Attorney who'd touch that case.  (I'd think that there's  
> nobody
> THAT stupid as to come forth and say, "Yep, I did it.")
>
> Now if it became a regular occurrence, I'd be inclined to install an ATV
> camera/videotape recorder and monitor my equipment... to protect my  
> assets
> AND enhance the possibility of prosecution.  (Of course with the  
> requisite
> signage...)
>
> Mark - N9WYS
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RE: [Repeater-Builder] Dayton check list -2008 Time for the Annual reminder of all the fun Dayton is and can be

[Paul Finch]

Please! Soap and Deodorant!
 
There were a lot of "ripe" souls the last time I went.
 
Paul
 

   _  

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Sent: Monday, April 21, 2008 5:40 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Dayton check list -2008 Time for the Annual
reminder of all the fun Dayton is and can be



On Mon, 21 Apr 2008, Ted Bleiman K9MDM - MDM Radio wrote:

20. Soap
21. Dedoderant. This isn't the Navy circa WWII.

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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Antenna Question

[mung]

It depends on band, split, power, and antenna gain.


On Tue, 22 Apr 2008 02:00:23 -
  "Christopher Hodgdon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> We are looking at setting up a basic (I know there is no 
>such thing)
> repeater.  What I need to know, if you do not have a 
>duplexer to run
> your antenna through, but have two antennas, with one on 
>the TX and
> one on the RX how far apart do they have to be to be 
>able to correctly
> operate?
> 

[Repeater-Builder] Antenna Question

[Christopher Hodgdon]

We are looking at setting up a basic (I know there is no such thing)
repeater.  What I need to know, if you do not have a duplexer to run
your antenna through, but have two antennas, with one on the TX and
one on the RX how far apart do they have to be to be able to correctly
operate?

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Super StationmasterT Omni Fibergl ass Antenna, information wanted

[Eric Lemmon]

Joe,

RFS/Celwave continues to manufacture the Super StationMaster antennas
pioneered by Phelps-Dodge.  Go here:

for the data sheet.  The PD220-2N antenna is designed to cover the 142-150
MHz band, but the gain is limited to 4.8 dBd due to length constraints.

73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY
 

-Original Message-
From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Joe
Sent: Monday, April 21, 2008 4:40 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Super StationmasterT Omni Fiberglass Antenna,
information wanted

Does anyone have the spec sheet for the Super StationmasterT Omni 
Fiberglass Antenna PD-220 for 2 meters?  All I find are general specs 
from 25-299.9Mhz.  I'm looking for actual gain in dBd and bandwidth.

73, Joe, K1ike

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Bad adapter

[Mike Besemer (WM4B)]

FWIW, we installed a splicing kit at our site last summer to replace a piece
of damaged 7/8.  The loss was negligible, especially compared to what it
would have cost us to replace an additional 250' of helix.

 

If money were no object, I'd go for a brand new mother-run of 7/8, but since
they do call this AMATEUR radio, sometimes we've got to accept the next best
thing.

 

YMMV,

 

Mike

WM4B

 

From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nate Duehr
Sent: Monday, April 21, 2008 4:10 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Bad adapter

 

Wayne wrote:
> Looking at the pictures gives me a couple of ideas.
> first is that the person who cut the heliax must be really dense to think 
> he could get away with it. All one needs to do is trace that other coax to

> wherever. Plus it might be possible to lift fingerprints from the heliax.

CSI: Radio Towers -- Coming soon to CBS!

(We already tried CSI: Cedar Rapids but it didn't do well with the 
audiences -- they fell asleep.)

Maybe Kevin or Scott could be called in as "expert witness" special 
guest stars?

And of course, all radio sites will have to be dark, so even mid-day the 
investigators will have to look around with powerful flashlights to find 
that "one clue they missed at the scene when they were there two days ago".

LOL!

> Second, looks like the Heliax could be spliced back together with proper 
> connector(s), but would be a job and a bit of a bump in loss?

Amphenol actually does make a (relatively expensive) hardline splicing 
kit. Works well, according to the club techs who had to use one once on 
one of our runs of 7/8 that was damaged.

> I actually have a question here about loss. What would be the loss in one 
> male and one female 7/8" N connector for Heliax? My thought is with the 
> idea of possibly moving my antenna in the future, if I can eventually 
> manage a taller tower.

If you can't do new feedline for the whole run, get a splicing kit and 
not connectors.

Better yet, consider it part of the "cost of moving" and don't move if 
you can't replace the line. That'd be my "take" on it.

Build to commercial standards, or don't build... you'll only be back 
later fixing it... like anything else "hammy" I've ever seen/dealt with.

But we all here understand the reality of budgets, or lack thereof... 
(sigh)...

Nate WY0X

 

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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Super Stationmaster™ Omni Fiberglass Antenna, information wanted

[MCH]

Gain is 4.5 dB. It's reduced from the 6 dB of the 150 MHz version since 
they can't fit as many elements in it due to the frequency.

Not sure about the bandwidth offhand.

Joe M.

Joe wrote:
> Does anyone have the spec sheet for the Super Stationmaster™ Omni 
> Fiberglass Antenna PD-220 for 2 meters?  All I find are general specs 
> from 25-299.9Mhz.  I'm looking for actual gain in dBd and bandwidth.
> 
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[Repeater-Builder] Info Wanted: RE: Motorola Channel Elements parts

[w4dg.geo]

I recently ordered TX and RX crystals from ICM for the MICOR RT Station.
I specified the correct FC and FX and catalog # 167380  for MOT KNX1018C
TX (132-174).  When these crystals were received they would not "net" on
frequency.  The TX was over 20Khz. high and would not net any closer.  I
notified ICM and their Customer Service Dept., agreed to replace the TX
crystal.  When I received this "replacement "crystal, it was over 30Khz.
high!  I sent another email and got a reply from the owner, Royden
Freeland, W5EMH, stating the following:

"To get the crystal to tune properly you will need to change L1 to
2.6-2.7uh and C6 to 1-10 pf depending on the crystal to get it on
frequency at close to center trim. Each element was compensated and
tuned for the original crystal so if you are changing frequency very far
there can be problems.  Motorola generally used a crystal load of 32pf
in elements with trimmers and varied components within the element to
bring it on frequency. ICM will be happy to install the crystal and
compensate the element if you would prefer.  We would charge $60.00 to
install and compensate your element and crystal".

I have printed out the channel element schmetic and picture (from W3KCC)
repeater-Builders website and see that C6 is the trimmer and L1, but no
values are represented.  Can anyone tell me what the current value of
the inductor L1 is? If it's currently higher in value, can it be
"rewound" for the 2.7uH inductance ICM references?  I believe there is
enough room to insert a fixed cap of proper C in series to drop the
tuning range of the C6, to perhaps the 1-10pf.  I have looked at Mouser
Electronics for a trimmer 1- 10pf and 2.7uH axil-lead inductor,
L1without success.

If they are available, can you please stear me to where I can purchase
one or both?

I always thought that you sent ICOM's back for temperature compensation
and not for simple exchance of crystals.  I have never needed to to that
with any GE MASTR series TX & RX or Mocom 70 series or any EF Johnson
series that simply required new crystals.  But again, that was 20 years
ago, which is a long time.

Any advice would be appreciated as I don't need to spend another $120 to
"install the crystal and compensate the element".

TNX is advance...Dennis - W4DG

Re: [Repeater-Builder] spectra radio dead from ebay

[Dan Blasberg]

On Apr 21, 2008, at 4:54 PM, mikewm9v wrote:

> spectra radio dead from ebay
> want to fix this radio no display
> need schematics
> need to know if radio will power up without control head

No...
>
> has front panel pcb
> has power in entire unit
> do i need ignition sense hooked up

Yes...
>
> recapped display board and will recap other boards
> will sit down with other boards and scope out radio
> used but not too abused
> have mic
> also have extra wavetek 2000b monitor
> 15 years as bench tech for radio shack
> i did all the scanners and amateur radio equipment for them
> wm9v
>

Do you get anything out of the speaker at power up?

KA8YPY


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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Super Stationmaster™ Om ni Fiberglass Antenna, information wanted

[Joe]

Thanks for this one:
http://www.wiscointl.com/celwave/antennas/pd220/spec.htm
That has the specs I need.

The next one:
http://www.lakelandarc.org/downloads/stationmaster.pdf
was similar to the one I had found, but did not show the specs I was looking 
for.  It did show that the PD220 was available from 25-299.9Mhz.  Has anyone 
seen a Superstationmaster for 25-50Mhz?  I didn't know they made them for that 
low in frequency.

73, Joe, K1ike



Ralph Mowery wrote:
> look here:
>
> http://www.wiscointl.com/celwave/antennas/pd220/spec.htm
>
> http://www.lakelandarc.org/downloads/stationmaster.pdf
>
>
>
>
> --- On Mon, 4/21/08, Joe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>   
>> From: Joe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Super Stationmaster™ Omni Fiberglass Antenna, 
>> information wanted
>> To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
>> Date: Monday, April 21, 2008, 7:39 PM
>> Does anyone have the spec sheet for the Super
>> Stationmaster™ Omni 
>> Fiberglass Antenna PD-220 for 2 meters?  All I find are
>> general specs 
>> from 25-299.9Mhz.  I'm looking for actual gain in dBd
>> and bandwidth.
>>
>> 73, Joe, K1ike
>>
>>
>> 
>

Re: [Repeater-Builder] spectra radio dead from ebay

[Bryon Jeffers KØBSJ]

Start here: 

Bryon Jeffers KØBSJ




mikewm9v wrote:
> spectra radio dead from ebay 
> want to fix this radio no display 
> need schematics 
> need to know if radio will power up without control head 
> has front panel pcb 
> has power in entire unit
> do i need ignition sense hooked up 
> recapped display board and will recap other boards 
> will sit down with other boards and scope out radio 
> used but not too abused 
> have mic 
> also have extra wavetek 2000b monitor 
> 15 years as bench tech for radio shack 
> i did all the scanners and amateur radio equipment for them 
> wm9v
>
>
> 
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Super Stationmaster™ Omni Fiberglass Antenna, information wanted

[Ralph Mowery]

look here:

http://www.wiscointl.com/celwave/antennas/pd220/spec.htm

http://www.lakelandarc.org/downloads/stationmaster.pdf




--- On Mon, 4/21/08, Joe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> From: Joe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Super Stationmaster™ Omni Fiberglass Antenna, 
> information wanted
> To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Monday, April 21, 2008, 7:39 PM
> Does anyone have the spec sheet for the Super
> Stationmaster™ Omni 
> Fiberglass Antenna PD-220 for 2 meters?  All I find are
> general specs 
> from 25-299.9Mhz.  I'm looking for actual gain in dBd
> and bandwidth.
> 
> 73, Joe, K1ike
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Yahoo! Groups Links
> 
> 
> 

  

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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Carrier Control Timer

[Chuck Kelsey]

Here's one for a Mastr II. You'd need to change some fixed values to stretch 
the time longer.

http://www.repeater-builder.com/ge/lbi-library/lbi-4979d.pdf


Chuck


- Original Message - 
From: "Chuck Kelsey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Monday, April 21, 2008 7:37 PM
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Carrier Control Timer


> Why don't you simply use an MVP carrier control timer or duplicate the
> circuit that they used?
>
> Chuck
> WB2EDV
>

[Repeater-Builder] Super Stationmaster™ Omni Fiberglass An tenna, information wanted

[Joe]

Does anyone have the spec sheet for the Super Stationmaster™ Omni 
Fiberglass Antenna PD-220 for 2 meters?  All I find are general specs 
from 25-299.9Mhz.  I'm looking for actual gain in dBd and bandwidth.

73, Joe, K1ike







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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Carrier Control Timer

[Chuck Kelsey]

Why don't you simply use an MVP carrier control timer or duplicate the 
circuit that they used?

Chuck
WB2EDV




- Original Message - 
From: "Thomas Oliver" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Monday, April 21, 2008 7:34 PM
Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Carrier Control Timer


> There was an article in QST years ago about how to use a 555 timer for cor
> and timeout timer with a hang timer, I actually built one and it worked. 
> I
> think it would work in your situation.
>
> Maybe some kind soul could find it and post it.
>
>
> tom
>
>
>> [Original Message]
>> From: w6jll <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: 
>> Date: 4/21/2008 7:21:37 PM
>> Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Carrier Control Timer
>>
>> With regard to Tom's use of a carrier control timer - I am using GE
>> EXEC II and MVP's in my system. Although I have relied on the external
>> controller's time out functions, I would like to have a "backup" timer
>> in the transmitters that would take the repeater transmitter off the
>> air at say 10 minutes, if for some reason the contoller circuit failed.
>> I've looked at the 555 but the problem is that in the monostable mode,
>> the pulse input to start
>> the cycle has to be shorter than the timing cycle (according to some
>> design notes, about 1/3rd or less). Obviously, this won't work for the
>> intended application since the pulse (key down) would be longer than
>> the timing cycle. I'm sure someone on the bulletin board has
>> designed/implemented what I'm looking for. Any thoughts would be
>> appreciated. TNX Fred W6JLL
>>
>>
>> 
>>
>>
>>
>> Yahoo! Groups Links
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -- 
>> No virus found in this incoming message.
>> Checked by AVG.
>> Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.23.2/1389 - Release Date:
> 4/21/2008 8:34 AM
>
>
>
> 
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
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>
>
> 

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Carrier Control Timer

[Thomas Oliver]

There was an article in QST years ago about how to use a 555 timer for cor
and timeout timer with a hang timer, I actually built one and it worked.  I
think it would work in your situation.

Maybe some kind soul could find it and post it.


tom


> [Original Message]
> From: w6jll <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Date: 4/21/2008 7:21:37 PM
> Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Carrier Control Timer
>
> With regard to Tom's use of a carrier control timer - I am using GE 
> EXEC II and MVP's in my system. Although I have relied on the external 
> controller's time out functions, I would like to have a "backup" timer 
> in the transmitters that would take the repeater transmitter off the 
> air at say 10 minutes, if for some reason the contoller circuit failed. 
> I've looked at the 555 but the problem is that in the monostable mode, 
> the pulse input to start 
> the cycle has to be shorter than the timing cycle (according to some 
> design notes, about 1/3rd or less). Obviously, this won't work for the 
> intended application since the pulse (key down) would be longer than 
> the timing cycle. I'm sure someone on the bulletin board has 
> designed/implemented what I'm looking for. Any thoughts would be 
> appreciated. TNX Fred W6JLL
>
>
> 
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>
> -- 
> No virus found in this incoming message.
> Checked by AVG. 
> Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.23.2/1389 - Release Date:
4/21/2008 8:34 AM

[Repeater-Builder] spectra radio dead from ebay

[mikewm9v]

spectra radio dead from ebay 
want to fix this radio no display 
need schematics 
need to know if radio will power up without control head 
has front panel pcb 
has power in entire unit
do i need ignition sense hooked up 
recapped display board and will recap other boards 
will sit down with other boards and scope out radio 
used but not too abused 
have mic 
also have extra wavetek 2000b monitor 
15 years as bench tech for radio shack 
i did all the scanners and amateur radio equipment for them 
wm9v

[Repeater-Builder] Carrier Control Timer

[w6jll]

With regard to Tom's use of a carrier control timer - I am using GE 
EXEC II and MVP's in my system. Although I have relied on the external 
controller's time out functions, I would like to have a "backup" timer 
in the transmitters that would take the repeater transmitter off the 
air at say 10 minutes, if for some reason the contoller circuit failed. 
I've looked at the 555 but the problem is that in the monostable mode, 
the pulse input to start 
the cycle has to be shorter than the timing cycle (according to some 
design notes, about 1/3rd or less). Obviously, this won't work for the 
intended application since the pulse (key down) would be longer than 
the timing cycle. I'm sure someone on the bulletin board has 
designed/implemented what I'm looking for. Any thoughts would be 
appreciated. TNX Fred W6JLL

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Bad adapter

[Larry Wagoner]

At 05:43 PM 4/21/2008, you wrote:
>I would think the one using the cable is the one who cut it.

Or at the very least is responsible - given that that person's 
equipment is connected.
One cannot claim ignorance at a certain point ...
And it is the CUTTING of the hardline that is the criminal damage, 
not the use of the antenna.

Finally ... if nothing else - how about feeding some 240 AC down the 
line from the splice point to the offender's equipment.

Larry
N5WLW 

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Bad adapter

[Ron Wright]

Jeff,

I would think the one using the cable is the one who cut it.

73, ron, n9ee/r



>From: Jeff Kincaid <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Date: 2008/04/21 Mon PM 04:54:19 CDT
>To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Bad adapter

>
>The site manager had doped out which cables should go where, and
>tie-wrapped the appropriate cut ends together.  It's obvious who is
>using our antenna, but not so clear who cut the cables.  He's the one
>we'd really like to nab.  No cables were taken, they were only cut. 
>It's a ham-only site, so at least the pros aren't shaking their heads
>over all this.
>
>Jeff
>
>--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Ron Wright <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> Jim,
>> 
>> I wonder where the RG58 went to.  Looks like inside the building.
>> 
>> Also noticed the tie-wrap holding your now 2 pieces of the 1/2 inch
>together.  Was this your doing to secure it or did the RG58 installer
>do it.  Does not look like anything missing, just modified, hi.
>> 
>> Copper is now going for $2.85 from a scrap dealer, but does not look
>like this is the case.  
>> 
>> Here in Tampa area we have recently seen 2 large towers, above 1000
>ft, loose a major part of their ground wiring due to some wanting it
>for the scrap value.  Alerts are being posted to tower owners.
>> 
>> 73, ron, n9ee/r
>> 
>
>   
> 


Ron Wright, N9EE
727-376-6575
MICRO COMPUTER CONCEPTS
Owner 146.64 repeater Tampa Bay, FL
No tone, all are welcome.

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Dayton check list -2008 Time for the Annual reminder of all the fun Dayton is and can be

[Kris Kirby]

On Mon, 21 Apr 2008, Ted Bleiman K9MDM - MDM Radio wrote:

20. Soap
21. Dedoderant. This isn't the Navy circa WWII.

--
Kris Kirby, KE4AHR  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
But remember, with no superpowers comes no responsibility. 
--rly

RE: [Repeater-Builder] OT Dayton Hamvention Group OT

[Paul Finch]

Mike,
 
I tried that several times with no luck and gave up.  Maybe they have fixed
the problem letting the <>'s fix the line wrap problem.
 
Paul
 

   _  

From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Morris WA6ILQ
Sent: Monday, April 21, 2008 4:04 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] OT Dayton Hamvention Group OT



On most mail programs if you include a set of <> characters
around the link it won't break on a word wrap.

Like this:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/hamvention/?v=1&t=search&ch=web&pub=groups&se
c=group&slk=1"http://groups.-yahoo.com/-group/hamvention-/?v=1&t=search&-ch=
web&pub=-groups&sec=-group&slk=-1>

This trick is part of the URL specification (RFC 1738 by Tim
Berners-Lee)-, and properly written email programs respect
the <> characters.

Mike WA6ILQ

At 06:24 AM 04/20/08, you wrote:
>I see the link line wrapped so you will need to copy and paste it two
>sections starting at the http all the way to the space but do not include
>the comma.
>
>Paul
>
>
>-Original Message-
>From: HYPERLINK
"mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com"[EMAIL PROTECTED]
m
>[mailto:HYPERLINK
"mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com"[EMAIL PROTECTED]
m] On Behalf Of Paul Finch
>Sent: Sunday, April 20, 2008 8:16 AM
>To: HYPERLINK
"mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com"[EMAIL PROTECTED]
m
>Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] OT Dayton Hamvention Group OT
>
>Joe,
>
>The easiest way to find it is go to Yahoo, click on Groups, click in the
>Search field and type in Hamvention. It is the first one on the list.
>Steve B. sent a link yesterday that would take you directly to it, did you
>get it?
>
>If not try this link;
>HYPERLINK
"http://groups.yahoo.com/group/hamvention/?v=1&t=search&ch=web&pub=groups&se
c"http://groups.-yahoo.com/-group/hamvention-/?v=1&t=search&-ch=web&pub=-gro
ups&sec
>=group&slk=-1 , Yahoo search is your friend!
>
>The name is Dayton Hamvention.
>
>Anything else?
>
>Paul
>
>
>-Original Message-
>From: HYPERLINK
"mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com"[EMAIL PROTECTED]
m
>[mailto:HYPERLINK
"mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com"[EMAIL PROTECTED]
m] On Behalf Of MCH
>Sent: Saturday, April 19, 2008 11:49 PM
>To: HYPERLINK
"mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com"[EMAIL PROTECTED]
m
>Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] OT Dayton Hamvention Group OT
>
>Still waiting for the list name
>
>Joe M.
>
>MCH wrote:
> > List NAME???
> >
> > Joe M.
> >
> > Paul Finch wrote:
> >> Hello,
> >>
> >> If interested there is now a Dayton Hamvention group on Yahoo. Sounds
>like
> >> the Dayton people put it up to help, not many people on it yet. Just
> >> thought I would mention it.
> >>
> >> Paul
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> No virus found in this outgoing message.
> >> Checked by AVG.
> >> Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.23.2/1386 - Release Date:
>4/18/2008
> >> 5:24 PM
> >>
> >>
> >> ---
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Yahoo! Groups Links
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> 
> >>
> >> No virus found in this incoming message.
> >> Checked by AVG.
> >> Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.23.2/1386 - Release Date:
>4/18/2008 5:24 PM
> >
> > ---
> >
> >
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>---
>
>
>
>Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>No virus found in this incoming message.
>Checked by AVG.
>Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.23.2/1387 - Release Date: 4/19/2008
>11:31 AM
>
>
>No virus found in this outgoing message.
>Checked by AVG.
>Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.23.2/1387 - Release Date: 4/19/2008
>11:31 AM
>
>
>
>---
>
>
>
>Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>No virus found in this incoming message.
>Checked by AVG.
>Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.23.2/1387 - Release Date: 4/19/2008
>11:31 AM
>
>
>No virus found in this outgoing message.
>Checked by AVG.
>Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.23.2/1387 - Release Date: 4/19/2008
>11:31 AM
>
>
>
>---
>
>
>
>Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>


 


No virus found in this incoming message.
Checked by AVG.
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3:01 PM



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Checked by AVG. 
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3:01 PM
 

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Bad adapter

[Jeff Kincaid]

The site manager had doped out which cables should go where, and
tie-wrapped the appropriate cut ends together.  It's obvious who is
using our antenna, but not so clear who cut the cables.  He's the one
we'd really like to nab.  No cables were taken, they were only cut. 
It's a ham-only site, so at least the pros aren't shaking their heads
over all this.

Jeff

--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Ron Wright <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Jim,
> 
> I wonder where the RG58 went to.  Looks like inside the building.
> 
> Also noticed the tie-wrap holding your now 2 pieces of the 1/2 inch
together.  Was this your doing to secure it or did the RG58 installer
do it.  Does not look like anything missing, just modified, hi.
> 
> Copper is now going for $2.85 from a scrap dealer, but does not look
like this is the case.  
> 
> Here in Tampa area we have recently seen 2 large towers, above 1000
ft, loose a major part of their ground wiring due to some wanting it
for the scrap value.  Alerts are being posted to tower owners.
> 
> 73, ron, n9ee/r
> 

RE: [Repeater-Builder] OT Dayton Hamvention Group OT

[Mike Morris WA6ILQ]

On most mail programs if you include a set of <> characters
around the link it won't break on a word wrap.

Like this:


This trick is part of the URL specification (RFC 1738 by Tim
Berners-Lee),  and properly written email programs respect
the <> characters.

Mike WA6ILQ

At 06:24 AM 04/20/08, you wrote:
>I see the link line wrapped so you will need to copy and paste it two
>sections starting at the http all the way to the space but do not include
>the comma.
>
>Paul
>
>
>-Original Message-
>From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul Finch
>Sent: Sunday, April 20, 2008 8:16 AM
>To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] OT Dayton Hamvention Group OT
>
>Joe,
>
>The easiest way to find it is go to Yahoo, click on Groups, click in the
>Search field and type in Hamvention.  It is the first one on the list.
>Steve B. sent a link yesterday that would take you directly to it, did you
>get it?
>
>If not try this link;
>http://groups.yahoo.com/group/hamvention/?v=1&t=search&ch=web&pub=groups&sec
>=group&slk=1 , Yahoo search is your friend!
>
>The name is Dayton Hamvention.
>
>Anything else?
>
>Paul
>
>
>-Original Message-
>From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of MCH
>Sent: Saturday, April 19, 2008 11:49 PM
>To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] OT Dayton Hamvention Group OT
>
>Still waiting for the list name
>
>Joe M.
>
>MCH wrote:
> > List NAME???
> >
> > Joe M.
> >
> > Paul Finch wrote:
> >> Hello,
> >>
> >> If interested there is now a Dayton Hamvention group on Yahoo.  Sounds
>like
> >> the Dayton people put it up to help, not many people on it yet.  Just
> >> thought I would mention it.
> >>
> >> Paul
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> No virus found in this outgoing message.
> >> Checked by AVG.
> >> Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.23.2/1386 - Release Date:
>4/18/2008
> >> 5:24 PM
> >>
> >>
> >> 
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Yahoo! Groups Links
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> 
> >>
> >> No virus found in this incoming message.
> >> Checked by AVG.
> >> Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.23.2/1386 - Release Date:
>4/18/2008 5:24 PM
> >
> > 
> >
> >
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>No virus found in this incoming message.
>Checked by AVG.
>Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.23.2/1387 - Release Date: 4/19/2008
>11:31 AM
>
>
>No virus found in this outgoing message.
>Checked by AVG.
>Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.23.2/1387 - Release Date: 4/19/2008
>11:31 AM
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>No virus found in this incoming message.
>Checked by AVG.
>Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.23.2/1387 - Release Date: 4/19/2008
>11:31 AM
>
>
>No virus found in this outgoing message.
>Checked by AVG.
>Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.23.2/1387 - Release Date: 4/19/2008
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>
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] DB4055 Duplexer

[Nate Duehr]

Paul N1BUG wrote:
> Nate,
> 
> Thanks for bringing that to my attention!

No problem, it's a head-scratcher.

> That is weird. The info I have in the document came from a Decibel 
> Products catalog. We now have three freq ranges for the DB4076, all 
> from manufacturer documents. Hm. Since "official" info 
> conflicts, I guess all I can (or should?) do is add a note about the 
> situation and list the various frequency ranges we have.

Heh.  "Your mileage may vary."

> I will add what specs that document provides on the 4075 while I'm 
> at it. I'll add a note about the Z and W suffix which I wasn't aware 
> of either.

I'm getting the impression it's going to be like the "Linksys WRT-54GS", 
yeah, there's six models of that router now, or more, all with different 
hardware guts.  Uggh.

> Sounds like you had a fun project there!

I haven't forgotten that I'd measure those cables, but have been busy 
and the duplexer's in use at the moment.  I'll get it before the end of 
the week.

Usually when it comes to projects like this, they ARE fun for me, but 
it's like drinking from the fire-hose.  "I are just a dumb ham."

My friend in this case, is an RF engineer with at least 20+ years in the 
industry, so I look at the instrument and say, "Wow that looks bad." and 
think to myself, "Wonder how you fix that?"

He says with ease... "Ahh... this shows us that the length of the cables 
to the 'tee' are wrong.  Here, let me grab about six random length 
cables that are shorter/longer than the ones installed and we'll figure 
out which direction it needs to go!"

Five minutes later, the thing's doing factory spec on the desired 
frequency with a "perfect" pattern and a custom-made cable.

At that point I'm usually dumbfounded... "Um, could you explain that... 
I mean, I think I get why that worked, but..."

Then he dumbs it down for me... "Okay, if that's a pass cavity pair, and 
we're feeding it into a T, what does that make this cable and T?  A 
transmission line... and what do transmission lines do?"  Etc... etc.

(Thank God I read the whole chapter on transmission line theory in the 
ARRL Antenna Book and barely understood all of it.  @*#&@# Smith Charts!)

And then I leave, go home, and think about it for a couple of months, 
and then one day the light-bulb goes on and I call him all excited... 
"HEY!  I understand why that worked now!"

And he laughs and tells me something else I didn't know...

But in the meantime, he's shown me enough information to "experiment" on 
my own, which is what it's all about.  Then I go find some crappy cans 
that we'd never use on a hill, and set them up on my IFR and start 
playing.

It's just like little kids... you can hand 'em a ball and they'll throw 
it around, but it takes a bit more effort to teach them to play baseball!

I hunted for two years to find that damn IFR at a "reasonable price" 
(yeah, test gear that costs more than I paid for my first car is 
"reasonable"?  ha!) so I could go home and "play" after these sessions.

Prior to that I was just frustrated... I'd learned something, but I knew 
I'd forget all about what I'd learned by the next time I was anywhere 
near a tracking-generator/spectrum analyzer combo (or service monitor).

When "hobby" mixes with "professional experience"... it makes my brain 
hurt, because I get forced into learning something -- pros won't let you 
remain a dumb-ass for long.  You eat up too much of their time.

But yeah, it's "fun"... I guess.

  :-)

I keep hearing all sorts of comments from pros who say things like, "I'd 
sure like to put this thing on the Vector Network Analyzer."

Never seen anything done on one of those, but everyone you run into says 
they're the "only way to fly" when tuning something up.

Someday I'll see one in action, hopefully.  They seem to only reside in 
labs that are well-equipped and inaccessible to most normal folk.

(Yeah, someone on here pointed out that older models sometimes do go 
cheap on FleaBay, but I'd get it home and stare at it stupidly wondering 
where to start with it.  Haha.  I'll stick with the IFR and proper loads 
on the ports on the cans... that get's me close enough for government 
work for the time being.)

I still want to hunt down a nice 10 GHz disciplined clock source to feed 
the gear in the "basement lab" -- why?  Because I can... well, if I find 
the right deal and it doesn't come right after the tax man.

:-)

Nate WY0X

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Bad adapter

[Nate Duehr]

Wayne wrote:
>   Looking at the pictures gives me a couple of ideas.
>   first is that the person who cut the heliax must be really dense to think  
> he could get away with it. All one needs to do is trace that other coax to  
> wherever. Plus it might be possible to lift fingerprints from the heliax.

CSI: Radio Towers -- Coming soon to CBS!

(We already tried CSI: Cedar Rapids but it didn't do well with the 
audiences -- they fell asleep.)

Maybe Kevin or Scott could be called in as "expert witness" special 
guest stars?

And of course, all radio sites will have to be dark, so even mid-day the 
investigators will have to look around with powerful flashlights to find 
that "one clue they missed at the scene when they were there two days ago".

LOL!

>   Second, looks like the Heliax could be spliced back together with proper  
> connector(s), but would be a job and a bit of a bump in loss?

Amphenol actually does make a (relatively expensive) hardline splicing 
kit.  Works well, according to the club techs who had to use one once on 
one of our runs of 7/8 that was damaged.

>   I actually have a question here about loss. What would be the loss in one  
> male and one female 7/8" N connector for Heliax? My thought is with the  
> idea of possibly moving my antenna in the future, if I can eventually  
> manage a taller tower.

If you can't do new feedline for the whole run, get a splicing kit and 
not connectors.

Better yet, consider it part of the "cost of moving" and don't move if 
you can't replace the line.   That'd be my "take" on it.

Build to commercial standards, or don't build... you'll only be back 
later fixing it... like anything else "hammy" I've ever seen/dealt with.

But we all here understand the reality of budgets, or lack thereof... 
(sigh)...

Nate WY0X

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Bad adapter

[Ralph Messer]

Wayne

If you have access to a Andrew catalog number 37  Look on page 588 bottom right 
of the page I think this will answer your question

Ralph Messer
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  - Original Message - 
  From: Wayne 
  To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2008 3:00 PM
  Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Bad adapter


Looking at the pictures gives me a couple of ideas.
first is that the person who cut the heliax must be really dense to think  
  he could get away with it. All one needs to do is trace that other coax to  
  wherever. Plus it might be possible to lift fingerprints from the heliax.
Second, looks like the Heliax could be spliced back together with proper  
  connector(s), but would be a job and a bit of a bump in loss?
I actually have a question here about loss. What would be the loss in one  
  male and one female 7/8" N connector for Heliax? My thought is with the  
  idea of possibly moving my antenna in the future, if I can eventually  
  manage a taller tower.
I see all kinds of loss calculators for cables themselves, but no  
  mentions of same for assorted connectors.
YMMV

Wayne WA2YNE


  On Sun, 20 Apr 2008 19:56:37 -0500, ka9qjg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

  > That Picture give the Term Low Loss Coax a New meaning, what an idiot
  > who ever it was , Thanks for posting I would of not believed it had I
  > not seen the Pic
  > Happy Repeater Building
  > Don KA9QJG
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[Repeater-Builder] Dayton check list -2008 Time for the Annual reminder of all the fun Dayton is and can be

[Ted Bleiman K9MDM - MDM Radio]

1. Dayton rule book as ammended for 2008 - with
complete do's and donts while attending the
hamfest (hamventiuon is copyrighted) and
specifically noting the penalties for
transgressing ANY of the regulations.

2. The complete Ohio State Manual of fire
regulations as ammended for 2008.

3. Over priced tickets and space rental tags

4. Parka - with hood and artic mittens 

5. Galoshes or waders depending on the day
   (a suggestion was made last year about
bringing 33 gal trash bags to use as rain coats
for the optomists who don't think it will rain.)

6. Dry socks 4 pair and other bits of apparel
that may get wet. 

7. Tent or canopy with several hundred pounds of
lead weights to combat the gentle 45 Knot Dayton
breeze.

8. Sleeping accomodations within 75 miles of Hara
Arena and sleeping pills, eye shade, ear muffs to
combat the drunken brawl in the next room or
possibly in the same room.

9. 14 handie talkies, pagers, cellphones, GPS,
Video Camera, PDA or Blackberry, and belt large
enuf to accomodate them all at the same time.
This year try to remember the battery chargers. 

9(a). Bandolero with spare batteries (AA-AAA-C-D
and assorted button cells) for all this
electronic paraphernalia.

10. Goofy hat with antennas sticking out for at
least 4 bands extra credit for Beam.

11. Laminated Dayton Hamfest I.D. badge (I heard
a rumor that passports may be required)This year
the rumor is A DNA sample.

12. scrolling electronic sign front and back
telling anyone and everyone who you are what
freqs you are monitoring and your email address.

13. Bail Money

14. Map of hamfest grounds with all portapotties
marked in red.

15. Snow chains - you never can tell in Dayton.

16. SPF 55 sunscreen - you never can tell when
your in Dayton.

17 - Laser transit and 100 ft tape measure to   
align your tables to avoid reprimand from the
alignment police. Heaven forbid you should creep
over the painted yellow lines and encroach on the
footpath-driveway which you can't drive on anyway
after 8 a.m.
 
18 - Despite all this try to have a fun time.

19. - Remember the motto -
  "He who dies with the most toys...wins!"







  Ted Bleiman K9MDM
  MDM  Radio" If its in stock...we've got it!"
P O Box 31353
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Bad adapter

[Wayne]

  Looking at the pictures gives me a couple of ideas.
  first is that the person who cut the heliax must be really dense to think  
he could get away with it. All one needs to do is trace that other coax to  
wherever. Plus it might be possible to lift fingerprints from the heliax.
  Second, looks like the Heliax could be spliced back together with proper  
connector(s), but would be a job and a bit of a bump in loss?
  I actually have a question here about loss. What would be the loss in one  
male and one female 7/8" N connector for Heliax? My thought is with the  
idea of possibly moving my antenna in the future, if I can eventually  
manage a taller tower.
  I see all kinds of loss calculators for cables themselves, but no  
mentions of same for assorted connectors.
  YMMV

  Wayne WA2YNE


On Sun, 20 Apr 2008 19:56:37 -0500, ka9qjg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> That Picture give the Term Low Loss Coax a New meaning, what an idiot
> who ever it was , Thanks for posting I would of not believed it had I
> not seen the Pic
> Happy Repeater Building
> Don KA9QJG
>



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[Repeater-Builder] Re: RIB-less cable circuitry

[sgreact47]

--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, "Camilo So" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Try this http://www.cqham.ru/rln4008d.htm Hope this help.
> 
> 
> 73
> W4CSO

That is the OLD circuit for the RIB  Radio Interface Box..

> 
> 
>   - Original Message - 
>   From: Bob M. 

>   Subject: [Repeater-Builder] RIB-less cable circuitry
> 
> 
>   Does anybody know of schematics for RIB-less cables?
>   I'm trying to find out which pin(s) they use to get
>   power from the serial port to operate the circuitry
>   built into the DB9 connector body.
> 
>   I've got a couple that seem to be dead on two
>   computers but run fine on another one and I suspect
>   some very slight differences in the serial port
>   configurations when the machines are booted up.
> 
>   If you have links for such schematics, just post those
>   rather than the entire image which won't make it
>   through Yahoo's e-mail system.
> 
>   Thanks.
> 
>   Bob M.

Re: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Hijack (WAS: Bad adapter)

[Ron Wright]

Many metal cost are up.

Aluminum is another.  Our local gov requires all major road construction to 
have side walks and in many places with deep drop offs hand rails are required 
and these are nice Aluminum.  The thieves bring their tools and unbolt them.  
Some are longer than 30 ft.

In America there are all kinds of ways of making money.

73, ron, n9ee/r




>From: n9wys <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Date: 2008/04/21 Mon AM 10:01:28 CDT
>To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Hijack (WAS: Bad adapter)

>
>Copper thefts are up all over the country...  In my area, new construction 
>sites are being hit hard for both copper wire and copper tubing (water 
>systems).  
>
>One has to wonder about the scrap dealers, though.  How can they - in good 
>conscience - accept *obviously* NEW wire in spools, or tubing in coils, as 
>scrap???  As long as the idiots have a place to peddle their stuff, they'll 
>keep stealing it...
>
>Mark - N9WYS
>
>-Original Message-
>From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com On Behalf Of Ron Wright
>
>Jim,
>
>I wonder where the RG58 went to.  Looks like inside the building.
>
>Also noticed the tie-wrap holding your now 2 pieces of the 1/2 inch together.  
>Was this your doing to secure it or did the RG58 installer do it.  Does not 
>look like anything missing, just modified, hi.
>
>Copper is now going for $2.85 from a scrap dealer, but does not look like this 
>is the case.  
>
>Here in Tampa area we have recently seen 2 large towers, above 1000 ft, loose 
>a major part of their ground wiring due to some wanting it for the scrap 
>value.  Alerts are being posted to tower owners.
>
>73, ron, n9ee/r
>
>73, ron, n9ee/r
>
>>From: Jim Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>Date: 2008/04/21 Mon AM 03:09:16 CDT
>>To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
>>Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Bad adapter
>
>>
>>I finally got a new connector and jumper cable installed last week on a 
>>repeater that has been out of service for several months.  The hard line and 
>>jumper had been cut with an ax and removed for scrap copper.  It has taken me 
>>this long to find a connector for the hard line.  They climbed a chain link 
>>fence with barb wire on top to get to the tower, and also removed the 
>>signaling wires to the switches (railroad) for the scrap copper value.
>>
>>But even this vandalism does not touch the RG-58 jumper in the picture - 
>>
>>73 - Jim  W5ZIT
>>
>>Jeff Kincaid <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  Here's a 
>>link to a photo I made during a recent service call.  Someone has cut the 
>>Heliax to our UHF receive antenna and spliced a piece of RG-58 to it.  
>>Seriously, if you're going to hijack an antenna, at
>> least you could spring for a lousy connector!  
>> 
>> http://www.lafn.org/~jeffk/CoaxSpliceSm.jpg
>> 
>> Jeff W6JK
>> 
>>
>>   Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile.  
>> Try it now.  
>>   
>
>Ron Wright, N9EE
>727-376-6575
>MICRO COMPUTER CONCEPTS
>Owner 146.64 repeater Tampa Bay, FL
>No tone, all are welcome.
>
>
>
>Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>   
> 


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Owner 146.64 repeater Tampa Bay, FL
No tone, all are welcome.

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: FW: Dayton and Parts you might need....

[Paul Finch]

Hello,
 
I doubt if I would be interfering with them much with only five watts but I
would not want to ruffle any feathers.  I will be trying a better antenna
this year to help penetrate into the building though, last time I could not
talk very far into the buildings.  
 
I tried a 100 watt repeater here at my tower once on 12.5 KHz split from
another repeater on the same tower and it worked well, even with a JapTrac
radio on site I was not hearing it.  That may not be true with all repeaters
and mobiles though.  The receiver in my portable repeater is pretty sharp
also, like I said I would probably be the one getting the interference but
will stay as far from them as possible.
 
Anyone is welcome to use the repeater if they want to, that is as long as
they are Hams and use it responsibly.  It will have my call, WB5IDM on it. 
 
When/IF I get my space numbers I will publish it here.  There will be at
least three of us from Texas there, come see us!  Who knows, I may even have
a Coke or Yuck, a Dr Pepper..
 
Thanks for the help,
Paul
 
 

   _  

From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, April 21, 2008 10:31 AM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: FW: Dayton and Parts you might need



At 4/21/2008 05:54, you wrote:

>Looks like you should be on 444.85. Nothing close here on that freq.
>Both 12.5 up and down have repeaters closer. Cinci and Troy I beleive.
>
>Randy

Agreed. If you have to move to avoid something, chances are you're still 
going to interfere with that something if you only move 12.5 kHz away.

Bob NO6B



 


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RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Hijack (WAS: Bad adapter)

[Paul Finch]

Mark and Group,
 
I own and operate a 500 foot commercial radio tower, it's the way I pay for
my very addictive Ham Radio hobby.  Every bit of the copper that can be
inside the new tower facility I am building on is on the inside under lock
and key.  The Lowlife Scumbags would have to break down the door to get at
it.  I have several "other" security measures I will not mention here.  
 
I have about 150 pounds (maybe more) of copper in the ground system inside
and about 40 outside, it will have wood covering it once installed.  Good
thing is, I live about 350 feet from the building and will have about 8
cameras located inside and outside the building hooked to a DVR and fiber
from the building to my house so I can watch the facility from there.  
 
In Texas, at least some cities have passed laws that state a valid Picture
ID must be shown to sell the copper.  I think the state has also passed some
kind of law pertaining to copper thieves as you can tell from the snip below
I found with Google.  The guy that shot the thief was a State legislator!
Don't Mess With Texas Copper.  
 
HYPERLINK
"http://www.stateline.org/live/details/story?contentId=223899"http://www.sta
teline.org/live/details/story?contentId=223899
HYPERLINK "http://www.stateline.org/live/details/story?contentId=223899"; 
Friday, July 13, 2007
Copper thefts trigger widespread crackdown
By Kathleen Haughney, Special to Stateline.org 

 
A Texas legislator made headlines this week for shooting a man allegedly
stealing copper pipes from a new home the lawmaker is constructing. Copper
theft is so rampant that 20 states — including Texas — passed laws this year
to try to squelch shady scrap-metal sales. 



 

 

By the way, Jack Webb and Johnny Carson discussed this very problem decades
ago  See:
 
HYPERLINK
"http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gpVjW30I-YU"http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g
pVjW30I-YU
 
Paul

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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Yahoo burp?

[Alexandre Souza]

>Yahoo is ' the ' worst email and forums based group on the planet.

Americans says "there is no such thing as a free lunch". You get what 
you pay for :o)

Greetings from Brazil
Alexandre - PU1BZZ

PS: When you take something for free, for a lot of time, people always 
thinks it is mandatory.

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: FW: Dayton and Parts you might need....

[no6b]

At 4/21/2008 05:54, you wrote:

>Looks like you should be on 444.85. Nothing close here on that freq.
>Both 12.5 up and down have repeaters closer. Cinci and Troy I beleive.
>
>Randy

Agreed.  If you have to move to avoid something, chances are you're still 
going to interfere with that something if you only move 12.5 kHz away.

Bob NO6B

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Yahoo burp?

[Rick Klinge]

Yahoo is ' the ' worst email and forums based group on the planet.
 
 

-Original Message-
From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of George Henry
Sent: Monday, April 21, 2008 9:47 AM - MGMT
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Yahoo burp?
 
 

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Sad News - topozone.com Converts to Paid Service

[no6b]

At 4/21/2008 05:10, you wrote:

>topozone.com, previously a free source for geographic coordinate and
>topographic information, has now converted to a pay for service
>provider.
>
>Hopefully the same thing does not happen to google earth!

Try the Acme mapper: http://acme.com

Bob NO6B

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Hijack (WAS: Bad adapter)

[Eric M.]

One of our repeater sites had all of the copper ground wire stolen from 
the tower base and the guy stations.  There wasn't much copper and I 
don't think there was enough money to be had out of that copper to buy a 
case of beer!


Eric,
VA3EAM

n9wys wrote:

Copper thefts are up all over the country... In my area, new 
construction sites are being hit hard for both copper wire and copper 
tubing (water systems).


One has to wonder about the scrap dealers, though. How can they - in 
good conscience - accept *obviously* NEW wire in spools, or tubing in 
coils, as scrap??? As long as the idiots have a place to peddle their 
stuff, they'll keep stealing it...


Mark - N9WYS

-Original Message-
From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
 On Behalf Of Ron Wright


Jim,

I wonder where the RG58 went to. Looks like inside the building.

Also noticed the tie-wrap holding your now 2 pieces of the 1/2 inch 
together. Was this your doing to secure it or did the RG58 installer 
do it. Does not look like anything missing, just modified, hi.


Copper is now going for $2.85 from a scrap dealer, but does not look 
like this is the case.


Here in Tampa area we have recently seen 2 large towers, above 1000 
ft, loose a major part of their ground wiring due to some wanting it 
for the scrap value. Alerts are being posted to tower owners.


73, ron, n9ee/r

73, ron, n9ee/r

>From: Jim Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED] >
>Date: 2008/04/21 Mon AM 03:09:16 CDT
>To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 


>Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Bad adapter

>
>I finally got a new connector and jumper cable installed last week on 
a repeater that has been out of service for several months. The hard 
line and jumper had been cut with an ax and removed for scrap copper. 
It has taken me this long to find a connector for the hard line. They 
climbed a chain link fence with barb wire on top to get to the tower, 
and also removed the signaling wires to the switches (railroad) for 
the scrap copper value.

>
>But even this vandalism does not touch the RG-58 jumper in the picture -
>
>73 - Jim W5ZIT
>
>Jeff Kincaid <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: Here's 
a link to a photo I made during a recent service call. Someone has 
cut the Heliax to our UHF receive antenna and spliced a piece of 
RG-58 to it. Seriously, if you're going to hijack an antenna, at

> least you could spring for a lousy connector!
>
> http://www.lafn.org/~jeffk/CoaxSpliceSm.jpg 


>
> Jeff W6JK
>
>
> Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. 
Try it now.


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727-376-6575
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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Dayton Brauts and visual cues

[Scott Zimmerman]

> ... they seem to most often be semi upwind from Kevin/Ken's area.

Since the topic came up, Repeater-Builder, as a company, will NOT be making 
an official showing at this year's Hamvention. Kevin is working full-time at 
his job, and a Dayton booth is a lot for my wife and I to handle with a 4 
year old and a 18 month old. (children, not radios)

While it is definitely nice to see all the guys and chew the fat, the last 
time we made the Dayton adventure we lot our shirt. 'Till you figure that 
the two weeks leading up to the show are spent preparing, and the 2 weeks 
after are spent recovering; you have lost a month's worth of bench / family 
time. This does not include the $70 per space cost or the absorbent hotel 
rates for the weekend. *IF* the weather is good, you *MAY* just enjoy 
yourself. too many variables for me.

My wife and I do plan on attending the show as spectators. Since my wife is 
from the Indianapolis area, we simply drive to my in-laws place on Thursday 
and hand off the kids. We wake up on Friday morning, leisurely drive the 1 
1/2hrs. to Dayton, and enjoy the show. The grandparents have a great time 
playing with the kids, and everyone is happy!!

It's hard to say exactly where you might find us at the show, but for those 
who would like to have an eyeball, e-mail me and I can provide my cell 
number or a frequency we may be monitoring and we can make arrangements to 
meet that way.

I hope to run into some list members at the show. I'll have my RB hat on!!

Scott

Scott Zimmerman
Amateur Radio Call N3XCC
474 Barnett Rd
Boswell, PA 15531

- Original Message - 
From: "skipp025" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Sunday, April 20, 2008 1:12 PM
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Dayton Brauts and visual cues


> Re: So where are these famous brats being sold?
>
> You'll smell them the minute you hit the flea market... they seem
> to most often be semi upwind from Kevin/Ken's area. When the wind
> turns 180 the smoke blows toward my groups space.
>
> Some of us Repeater Builder Group Members are pretty easy to
> spot... we wear a yellow plastic construction helmet with a small
> wire metal tower on the top. Sometimes the tower is replaced by
> a vhf rubber duck antenna.
>
> These days a secret handshake might be a bit over the top...
> some people have clammy palms. :-)
>
> cheers,
> s.
>
>> "n9wys" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> So where are these famous brats being sold?  This will be my first
> year at
>> Dayton, and I want to be sure I take in all the "important" sights and
>> activities.
>>
>> Also, what's the secret Repeater-Builder "handshake" or is the group
> using
>> any specific simplex freq?  Just so I know who I'm meeting when I get
>> there  hehehe
>>
>> Mark - N9WYS
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com On Behalf Of Nate Duehr
>>
>> Paul Finch wrote:
>>
>> I may still fly out, if all the airlines haven't gone under by then.
>>
>> I want a braut.  ;-)
>>
>> Nate WY0X
>>
>
>
>
> 
>
>
>
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RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Hijack (WAS: Bad adapter)

[n9wys]

Copper thefts are up all over the country...  In my area, new construction 
sites are being hit hard for both copper wire and copper tubing (water 
systems).  

One has to wonder about the scrap dealers, though.  How can they - in good 
conscience - accept *obviously* NEW wire in spools, or tubing in coils, as 
scrap???  As long as the idiots have a place to peddle their stuff, they'll 
keep stealing it...

Mark - N9WYS

-Original Message-
From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com On Behalf Of Ron Wright

Jim,

I wonder where the RG58 went to.  Looks like inside the building.

Also noticed the tie-wrap holding your now 2 pieces of the 1/2 inch together.  
Was this your doing to secure it or did the RG58 installer do it.  Does not 
look like anything missing, just modified, hi.

Copper is now going for $2.85 from a scrap dealer, but does not look like this 
is the case.  

Here in Tampa area we have recently seen 2 large towers, above 1000 ft, loose a 
major part of their ground wiring due to some wanting it for the scrap value.  
Alerts are being posted to tower owners.

73, ron, n9ee/r



73, ron, n9ee/r



>From: Jim Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Date: 2008/04/21 Mon AM 03:09:16 CDT
>To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Bad adapter

>
>I finally got a new connector and jumper cable installed last week on a 
>repeater that has been out of service for several months.  The hard line and 
>jumper had been cut with an ax and removed for scrap copper.  It has taken me 
>this long to find a connector for the hard line.  They climbed a chain link 
>fence with barb wire on top to get to the tower, and also removed the 
>signaling wires to the switches (railroad) for the scrap copper value.
>
>But even this vandalism does not touch the RG-58 jumper in the picture - 
>
>73 - Jim  W5ZIT
>
>Jeff Kincaid <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  Here's a link 
>to a photo I made during a recent service call.  Someone has cut the 
>Heliax to our UHF receive antenna and spliced a piece of RG-58 to it.  
>Seriously, if you're going to hijack an antenna, at
> least you could spring for a lousy connector!  
> 
> http://www.lafn.org/~jeffk/CoaxSpliceSm.jpg
> 
> Jeff W6JK
> 
>
>   Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile.  Try 
> it now.   
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RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Hijack (WAS: Bad adapter)

[n9wys]

And most likely a violation of federal statutes for disrupting the
communications system (Jeff's)...

But other than targeting the club/company that owns the "offending" station
(the one that the RG-58 was connected to) you'd be hard pressed to charge
any individual... because in most cases, you have to prove criminal intent
on the part of the individual.  And without evidence indicating WHO cut the
coax and soldered on the RG-58,  I don't think there's a District Attorney
or State's Attorney who'd touch that case.  (I'd think that there's nobody
THAT stupid as to come forth and say, "Yep, I did it.")

Now if it became a regular occurrence, I'd be inclined to install an ATV
camera/videotape recorder and monitor my equipment... to protect my assets
AND enhance the possibility of prosecution.  (Of course with the requisite
signage...)

Mark - N9WYS

-Original Message-
From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com On Behalf Of Larry Wagoner
Sent: Monday, April 21, 2008 6:51 AM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Bad adapter

At 06:44 AM 4/21/2008, you wrote:
>One other question I have; Was this perp Amateur, or Commercial?

What I wonder is why this person has not faced criminal charges.
What was done was criminal damage to property  -  and if that is a
significant
length of hardline  -  it could be FELONY criminal damage to property.

I would think that THAT would be the major issue.

Larry
N5WLW

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Yahoo burp?

[George Henry]

-Original Message-
>From: Bruce Bagwell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Sent: Apr 8, 2008 1:05 PM
>To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Amateur repeater ID's

[snip]

This message was posted 2 WEEKS AGO  

Does Yahoo have the hiccups?

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: FW: Dayton and Parts you might need....

[Paul Finch]

OK, I will leave it on 444.850, CTCSS of 110.9.  Plus 5 MHz input.
 
Thanks,
Paul
 

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From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of wb8art
Sent: Monday, April 21, 2008 7:55 AM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: FW: Dayton and Parts you might need



Looks like you should be on 444.85. Nothing close here on that freq. 
Both 12.5 up and down have repeaters closer. Cinci and Troy I beleive.

Randy

--- In HYPERLINK
"mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com"[EMAIL PROTECTED]
m, "n9wys" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> OK, thanks Paul!
> 
> 
> 
> From: HYPERLINK
"mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com"[EMAIL PROTECTED]
m
> [mailto:HYPERLINK
"mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com"[EMAIL PROTECTED]
m] On Behalf Of Paul Finch
> Sent: Sunday, April 20, 2008 1:38 PM
> To: HYPERLINK
"mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com"[EMAIL PROTECTED]
m
> Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] FW: Dayton and Parts you might 
need
> 
> 
> 
> Mark,
> 
> 
> 
> The repeater is currently on 444.850 transmit and 449.850 Receive, 
the
> normal split. I am going to move it either up or down 12.5 KHz so 
I don't
> interfere with any repeaters in the area on the normal spilt. Lets 
say
> right now it's going to be on 444.8625 for now. I will let you 
know if that
> changes.
> 
> 
> 
> Paul
> 
> WB5IDM
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> _ 
> 
> From: HYPERLINK
"mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com"[EMAIL PROTECTED]
m
> [mailto:HYPERLINK
"mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com"[EMAIL PROTECTED]
m] On Behalf Of n9wys
> Sent: Sunday, April 20, 2008 9:12 AM
> To: HYPERLINK
"mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com"[EMAIL PROTECTED]
m
> Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] FW: Dayton and Parts you might 
need
> 
> Well, Paul, I still don't have my tickets yet, either. although I 
paid for
> them a month ago.
> 
> Been hearing more and more horror stories about how the Hamvention 
is being
> run.
> 
> Also - what will be your repeater split? I don't think I 
understood your
> statement below. If a conventional 5MHz split is used, will your 
input be
> 449.850? Or were you trying to say you'll be on a "12.5 kHz 
splinter freq"
> somewhere near that center freq?
> 
> For others reading this list/thread, I am putting together an Excel
> spreadsheet of freqs that wil most likely be used at Dayton, so I 
can
> program them into my radios. Feel free to send along any freqs you 
will be
> using so I can add them in!
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Mark - N9WYS
> 
> From: HYPERLINK
"mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com"[EMAIL PROTECTED]
m
> [mailto:HYPERLINK
"mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com"[EMAIL PROTECTED]
m] On Behalf Of Paul Finch
> Sent: Sunday, April 20, 2008 8:01 AM
> To: HYPERLINK
"mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com"[EMAIL PROTECTED]
m
> Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] FW: Dayton and Parts you might 
need
> 
> Mark,
> 
> Thanks to the Hamvention's wonderful "new" registration system we 
still
> don't have my space numbers. As soon as I get them I will let all 
of
> message boards know. I will have a portable repeater there on the 
12.5 KHz
> spit above or below 444.850 MHz on CTCSS of 110.9. Who know I may 
have a
> flashing beacon on top of the antenna, that is if I have enough 
battery
> power and gas for the generator!
> 
> Paul
> 
> WB5IDM
> 
> _ 
> 
> From: HYPERLINK
"mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com"[EMAIL PROTECTED]
m
> [mailto:HYPERLINK
"mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com"[EMAIL PROTECTED]
m] On Behalf Of n9wys
> Sent: Saturday, April 19, 2008 10:21 PM
> To: HYPERLINK
"mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com"[EMAIL PROTECTED]
m
> Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] FW: Dayton and Parts you might 
need
> 
> So where are these famous brats being sold? This will be my first 
year at
> Dayton, and I want to be sure I take in all the "important" sights 
and
> activities.
> 
> Also, what's the secret Repeater-Builder "handshake" or is the 
group using
> any specific simplex freq? Just so I know who I'm meeting when I get
> there hehehe
> 
> Mark - N9WYS
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: HYPERLINK
"mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com"[EMAIL PROTECTED]
m
>  On Behalf Of Nate Duehr
> 
> Paul Finch wrote:
> 
> I may still fly out, if all the airlines haven't gone under by then.
> 
> I want a braut. ;-)
> 
> Nate WY0X
> 
> 
> 
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[Repeater-Builder] Re: Cushman C E-3 Operations / Service Manual - Available?

[ocwarren2000]

--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, "Laryn Lohman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, "ocwarren2000"  
wrote:
> >
> > 
> > 
> > Hi everybody...> 
> > The replacment CD-ROM of the Cushman CE-3 Operations / Service 
Manual 
> > came today, and so far it doesn't look like a mismarked Lotus Pro 
> > install system!  I've uploaded it into this board's files. 
> 
> 
> Should this manual be available immediately, or does it take some 
time
> to be posted?  I'm not finding it anywhere, yet.
> 
> Laryn K8TVZ


 Good quetion...  I have no idea, and I thought  
I put it there!!


Dick, W7TIO

Re: RE: [Repeater-Builder] FW: Dayton and Parts you might need....

[Ron Wright]

One of the largest repeater systems in the US is just down the road on 145.190. 
 However, will be more than busy during Dayton.

Last I heard 145.19 had over 32 rcv sites and 7 distant city repeaters linked 
in.

73, ron, n9ee/r



>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Date: 2008/04/20 Sun PM 11:29:43 CDT
>To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] FW: Dayton and Parts you might need

>
>At 4/20/2008 07:12, you wrote:
>
>>For others reading this list/thread, I am putting together an Excel 
>>spreadsheet of freqs that wil most likely be used at Dayton, so I can 
>>program them into my radios.  Feel free to send along any freqs you will 
>>be using so I can add them in!
>>
>>
>>
>>Thanks,
>>
>>Mark N9WYS
>
>One of the most popular local systems is WF8M 443.775 (+) PL-131.8.  Has 
>IRLP (node 4267), which makes it rather busy all hamvention weekend.  The 
>system I'll be linking my portable repeater to in Miamisburg (WB8VSU 
>442.300 (+) PL-123.0) also has IRLP (node 4235) but doesn't cover Hara as 
>well so hasn't  been very busy.
>
>Bob NO6B
>
>   
> 


Ron Wright, N9EE
727-376-6575
MICRO COMPUTER CONCEPTS
Owner 146.64 repeater Tampa Bay, FL
No tone, all are welcome.

Re: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Bad adapter

[Ron Wright]

Jim,

I wonder where the RG58 went to.  Looks like inside the building.

Also noticed the tie-wrap holding your now 2 pieces of the 1/2 inch together.  
Was this your doing to secure it or did the RG58 installer do it.  Does not 
look like anything missing, just modified, hi.

Copper is now going for $2.85 from a scrap dealer, but does not look like this 
is the case.  

Here in Tampa area we have recently seen 2 large towers, above 1000 ft, loose a 
major part of their ground wiring due to some wanting it for the scrap value.  
Alerts are being posted to tower owners.

73, ron, n9ee/r



73, ron, n9ee/r



>From: Jim Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Date: 2008/04/21 Mon AM 03:09:16 CDT
>To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Bad adapter

>
>I finally got a new connector and jumper cable installed last week on a 
>repeater that has been out of service for several months.  The hard line and 
>jumper had been cut with an ax and removed for scrap copper.  It has taken me 
>this long to find a connector for the hard line.  They climbed a chain link 
>fence with barb wire on top to get to the tower, and also removed the 
>signaling wires to the switches (railroad) for the scrap copper value.
>
>But even this vandalism does not touch the RG-58 jumper in the picture - 
>
>73 - Jim  W5ZIT
>
>Jeff Kincaid <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  Here's a link 
>to a photo I made during a recent service call.  Someone has cut the 
>Heliax to our UHF receive antenna and spliced a piece of RG-58 to it.  
>Seriously, if you're going to hijack an antenna, at
> least you could spring for a lousy connector!  
> 
> http://www.lafn.org/~jeffk/CoaxSpliceSm.jpg
> 
> Jeff W6JK
> 
>
>   Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile.  Try 
> it now.   
>   


Ron Wright, N9EE
727-376-6575
MICRO COMPUTER CONCEPTS
Owner 146.64 repeater Tampa Bay, FL
No tone, all are welcome.

Re: [Repeater-Builder] DB4055 Duplexer

[Paul N1BUG]

Nate,

Thanks for bringing that to my attention!

That is weird. The info I have in the document came from a Decibel 
Products catalog. We now have three freq ranges for the DB4076, all 
from manufacturer documents. Hm. Since "official" info 
conflicts, I guess all I can (or should?) do is add a note about the 
situation and list the various frequency ranges we have.

I will add what specs that document provides on the 4075 while I'm 
at it. I'll add a note about the Z and W suffix which I wasn't aware 
of either.

Sounds like you had a fun project there!

73,
Paul


> Paul,
> 
> Confused here... your document at that "specs" page shows the DB-4076  
> as being a high UHF duplexer (485-505 MHz) while right here on RB, the  
> duplexer's manual says it's much wider (404-512) on the top of the  
> manual, and then that same manual says it's a completely different  
> range (450-512) in the description text in the document.  Weird.
> 
> http://www.repeater-builder.com/db/db-4076-tuning.pdf
> 
> I'd just say it's a typo in the title of the manual... but...
> 
> A friend and I just tuned a 4075 with an added can -- making it into a  
> 4076 (the square/brown painted variety that were often found in GE  
> MASTR II cabinets with a GE part number on them) -- to the 446 range  
> tonight.
 >
> Nate Duehr, WY0X
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Fiberglass Tube Wanted

[Gregg W6IZT]

Try Max-Gain Systems in Marietta GA. They have a wide assortment of
fiberglass tubes.

 

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From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mel Farrer
Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2008 3:29 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Fiberglass Tube Wanted

 

There is another source of telescoping fiberglass tubing.  Send a message to
[EMAIL PROTECTED]  Lots of sizes and lengths are shippable.
Cheers.

Mel K6KBE

- Original Message 
From: Joe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, April 8, 2008 10:53:52 AM
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Fiberglass Tube Wanted

I know of a source of fiberglass Cubical Quad arms that may be suitable 
for the project. They are in Lyme Connecticut and are not easily 
shipped because of the length. Probably would be pickup only.

73, Joe, K1ike

Howard wrote:
> Hello to all. I am looking for a source for a fiberglass tube for a
> home brew colinear antenna of the "Stationmaster" type. Any
> suggestions appreciated.
>
> Howard W2AFD 
>
> 

 

 

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[Repeater-Builder] Amateur repeater ID's

[Bruce Bagwell]

Every repeater in my area ID's on the hour. Sounds to me like it is either the 
freq. (rate) of the ID, (Say every 15 Min.) or the reference to the website 
(More likely) that the FCC is having problems with.  But MAINLY this station 
seems to be interfering with another station on A nearby freq. (Freq. 
Coordination, not required but HIGHLY recommended!)  BTW, many Repeaters in my 
area, with the ID say "The Time is" or "Good Afternoon/Morning, the time 
is", Does the FCC consider Broadcasting? I guess not.

Bruce
KE5TPN

From: Paul M Schmitter 
That last paragraph is badly worded. Wheen I read it
the first time, I understood it to mean that the
reference to his website was the broadcasting being
written about, but after reading it again, it leaves
some doubt as to whether the IDer is also considered
broadcasting.
--- "Tony L." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> The most recent case posted on the FCC's Amateur
> Radio enforcement 
> actions web site is this one:
> 
>
http://www.fcc.gov/eb/AmateurActions/files/BEDNA07_05_25_1078.pdf
> 
> --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, "George
> Henry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> wrote:
> >
> > Can anyone point me to the specific enforcement
> case or warning 
> letter where 
> > the FCC first said that regular, periodic repeater
> ID's 
> irrespective of 
> > repeater usage were broadcasting and had to stop? 
> The FCC's online 
> archives 
> > don't seem to go back far enough (seems to me it
> was in the 80's), 
> and all 
> > the references that DID turn up dealt with
> specific interference 
> cases, not 
> > the broadcasting issue.
> > 
> > A news item in a QST or CQ column would be
> sufficient...
> > 
> > Thanks.
> > 
> > George, KA3HSW / WQGJ413
> >
> 
> 
> 

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RE: [Repeater-Builder] Service Manual Needed for TPL PA6-1BERX UHF Repeater Amp

[Eric Lemmon]

You can download the manual here:



73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY
 

-Original Message-
From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tony L.
Sent: Sunday, April 06, 2008 8:05 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Service Manual Needed for TPL PA6-1BERX UHF
Repeater Amp

Anybody have a service manual for this item that they can scan in and e-
mail?

Re: [Repeater-Builder] RIB-less cable circuitry

[Camilo So]

Try this http://www.cqham.ru/rln4008d.htm Hope this help.


73
W4CSO


  - Original Message - 
  From: Bob M. 
  To: repeater-builder@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2008 2:51 PM
  Subject: [Repeater-Builder] RIB-less cable circuitry


  Does anybody know of schematics for RIB-less cables?
  I'm trying to find out which pin(s) they use to get
  power from the serial port to operate the circuitry
  built into the DB9 connector body.

  I've got a couple that seem to be dead on two
  computers but run fine on another one and I suspect
  some very slight differences in the serial port
  configurations when the machines are booted up.

  If you have links for such schematics, just post those
  rather than the entire image which won't make it
  through Yahoo's e-mail system.

  Thanks.

  Bob M.

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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Motorola MSF5000

[wjpcolorado]

I appreciate the help!

Thanks,

Bill


Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T

-Original Message-
From: "tallinson2" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Date: Wed, 02 Apr 2008 15:52:23 
To:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Motorola MSF5000


The switch you need, SW801, is Motorola part number 4083980R12, shown
 as: SW TGL BD MTG ON OFF MOM E107: List price $17.06. Motorola is
 your friend (as long as you come with money!) Glad it was something
 simple.
 Tom
 
 --- In Repeater-Builder@  
yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 >
 > Thanks to everyone for their help. I opened everything up today...
 The VCOs 
 > were locked- so I unlocked them. I did find the problem. The
 accessory 
 > disable/reset switch seems to be malfunctioning. There are no
 longer 3 positions 
 > on the switch. It stays in acc disable- I can "hold" the switch in
 the middle 
 > and the repeater works great! Any ideas?
 > 
 > Bill
 > 
 > 
 > **
 > Create a Home Theater Like the Pros. Watch the video on AOL 
 > Home.
 > 
 (http://home. 
 
aol.com/diy/home-improvement-eric-stromer?video=15&
 > ncid=aolhom000301)
 >
 
   




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RE: [Repeater-Builder] RIB-less cable circuitry

[Richard]

Did you check batlabs.com?
 
 
Richard
  www.n7tgb.net
 

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From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bob M.
Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2008 11:52 AM
To: repeater-builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] RIB-less cable circuitry



Does anybody know of schematics for RIB-less cables?
I'm trying to find out which pin(s) they use to get
power from the serial port to operate the circuitry
built into the DB9 connector body.

I've got a couple that seem to be dead on two
computers but run fine on another one and I suspect
some very slight differences in the serial port
configurations when the machines are booted up.

If you have links for such schematics, just post those
rather than the entire image which won't make it
through Yahoo's e-mail system.

Thanks.

Bob M.

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Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Bad adapter

[Alexandre Souza]

>I was really glad I had a "new" camera from eBay with me for testing.
> It was unusual that I had it along but I think I should change that
> and make it a habit to bring one on service calls in the future.

Cameras are so cheap nowadays you can always have a "disposable" 
2mpixels camera on your pocket :o) 

[Repeater-Builder] Re:Zetron ZMX dtmf mic

[Peter Burgess]

I am looking for the programming info too.  Also the circuit diagram as well.

Cheers Peter VK2ZZA

[Repeater-Builder] Re: FW: Dayton and Parts you might need....

[wb8art]

Looks like you should be on 444.85. Nothing close here on that freq.  
Both 12.5 up and down have repeaters closer. Cinci and Troy I beleive.

Randy


--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, "n9wys" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> OK, thanks Paul!
> 
>  
> 
> From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul Finch
> Sent: Sunday, April 20, 2008 1:38 PM
> To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] FW: Dayton and Parts you might 
need
> 
>  
> 
> Mark,
> 
>  
> 
> The repeater is currently on 444.850 transmit and 449.850 Receive, 
the
> normal split.  I am going to move it either up or down 12.5 KHz so 
I don't
> interfere with any repeaters in the area on the normal spilt.  Lets 
say
> right now it's going to be on 444.8625 for now.  I will let you 
know if that
> changes.
> 
>  
> 
> Paul
> 
> WB5IDM
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
>   _  
> 
> From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of n9wys
> Sent: Sunday, April 20, 2008 9:12 AM
> To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] FW: Dayton and Parts you might 
need
> 
> Well, Paul, I still don't have my tickets yet, either. although I 
paid for
> them a month ago.
> 
> Been hearing more and more horror stories about how the Hamvention 
is being
> run.
> 
> Also - what will be your repeater split?  I don't think I 
understood your
> statement below.  If a conventional 5MHz split is used, will your 
input be
> 449.850?  Or were you trying to say you'll be on a "12.5 kHz 
splinter freq"
> somewhere near that center freq?
> 
> For others reading this list/thread, I am putting together an Excel
> spreadsheet of freqs that wil most likely be used at Dayton, so I 
can
> program them into my radios.  Feel free to send along any freqs you 
will be
> using so I can add them in!
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Mark - N9WYS
> 
> From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul Finch
> Sent: Sunday, April 20, 2008 8:01 AM
> To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] FW: Dayton and Parts you might 
need
> 
> Mark,
> 
> Thanks to the Hamvention's wonderful "new" registration system we 
still
> don't have my space numbers.  As soon as I get them I will let all 
of
> message boards know.  I will have a portable repeater there on the 
12.5 KHz
> spit above or below 444.850 MHz on CTCSS of 110.9.   Who know I may 
have a
> flashing beacon on top of the antenna, that is if I have enough 
battery
> power and gas for the generator!
> 
> Paul
> 
> WB5IDM
> 
>   _  
> 
> From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of n9wys
> Sent: Saturday, April 19, 2008 10:21 PM
> To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] FW: Dayton and Parts you might 
need
> 
> So where are these famous brats being sold? This will be my first 
year at
> Dayton, and I want to be sure I take in all the "important" sights 
and
> activities.
> 
> Also, what's the secret Repeater-Builder "handshake" or is the 
group using
> any specific simplex freq? Just so I know who I'm meeting when I get
> there hehehe
> 
> Mark - N9WYS
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
>   On Behalf Of Nate Duehr
> 
> Paul Finch wrote:
> 
> I may still fly out, if all the airlines haven't gone under by then.
> 
> I want a braut. ;-)
> 
> Nate WY0X
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[Repeater-Builder] Sad News - topozone.com Converts to Paid Service

[Tony L.]

topozone.com, previously a free source for geographic coordinate and 
topographic information, has now converted to a pay for service 
provider.

Hopefully the same thing does not happen to google earth!

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Bad adapter

[Larry Wagoner]

At 06:44 AM 4/21/2008, you wrote:
>One other question I have; Was this perp Amateur, or Commercial?

What I wonder is why this person has not faced criminal charges.
What was done was criminal damage to property  -  and if that is a significant
length of hardline  -  it could be FELONY criminal damage to property.

I would think that THAT would be the major issue.

Larry
N5WLW

[Repeater-Builder] Re: Bad adapter

[kb4mdz]

The small, cheap digital camera is a boon to any service-puke.  

One other question I have; Was this perp Amateur, or Commercial?  If
ham, that's the kind of crap that gives us a bad name in the business.
 If Commercial, well, it's par for the course,too; I've seen plenty of
installations that got paid good money for, which were equal or worse
than this one.  But, out of sight, out of mind.

And if you do the 'somersault' thing, take a video & post it!!

Chuk
kb4mdz
p.s: I've run across several other technology-groups who like to post
'Wall of Shame' pix - got a few myself.  Any interest out there?


--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff Kincaid" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> I was really glad I had a "new" camera from eBay with me for testing.
>  It was unusual that I had it along but I think I should change that
> and make it a habit to bring one on service calls in the future.  
> 
> I appreciate all the comments; nobody else could relate to this like
> you guys do.  Hmm, I wonder if the miscreant is in the Group, reading
> about what we think of him...  
> 
> The site manager was there when we arrived, and pointed it out to us.
>  Unfortunately, the owner only cares about collecting the rent, so
> it's pretty hard to get kicked out.  Other than end over end, I
mean.  :)

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Bad adapter

[Jim Brown]

I finally got a new connector and jumper cable installed last week on a 
repeater that has been out of service for several months.  The hard line and 
jumper had been cut with an ax and removed for scrap copper.  It has taken me 
this long to find a connector for the hard line.  They climbed a chain link 
fence with barb wire on top to get to the tower, and also removed the signaling 
wires to the switches (railroad) for the scrap copper value.

But even this vandalism does not touch the RG-58 jumper in the picture - 

73 - Jim  W5ZIT

Jeff Kincaid <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Here's a 
link to a photo I made during a recent service call.  Someone
 has cut the Heliax to our UHF receive antenna and spliced a piece of
 RG-58 to it.  Seriously, if you're going to hijack an antenna, at
 least you could spring for a lousy connector!  
 
 http://www.lafn.org/~jeffk/CoaxSpliceSm.jpg
 
 Jeff W6JK
 





   
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