Re: [scifinoir2] Charisma Carpenter & Carmen Electra Rumored Apprentice Contestant

[Martin]

Would make for fun reading, I'm sure.

Daryle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:   
 We can thank Prince for bringing Tara ³Carmen Electra² Patrick to our
 attention in the first  place. She was really only mildly amusing while he
 was dragging her around. When he was done, I was done as well.  I¹ll  say
 this...she¹s working her 15 minutes in a way nobody else can/has. If she
 ever  wrote a book on how she¹s managed to Tom Arnold her way into pop
 culture, I¹d buy it.
 
 On 9/13/07 6:46 PM, "Martin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
 
 >  
 >  
 >  
 > 
 > Make it three. Never seen what it is about her. The body, yes, but I've seen
 > better in nightclubs. And, to me, she's as sexy as Ronald Reagan.
 > 
 > Martin (excusing self to scream for drawing that analogy)
 > 
 > Astromancer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]  > wrote:
 > I'm with you, Keith...I'm a flatliner when it comes to Carmen too...
 >  
 >  [EMAIL PROTECTED]   wrote:
 > funny! Electra doesn't do anything for me, so I can breathe okay with just a
 > little hitch in the respiration. Now, if you said Gabrielle Union and Kenya
 > Moore were *also* going to guest star--I'd be gasping like a fish on land!
 >  
 >  -- Original message --
 >  From: Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 > > 
 >  Deep breaths, Keith. Deep breaths...
 >  
 >  Martin (wondering why he's sweating suddenly...)
 >  
 >  "Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)"
 > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 >  > wrote: Charisma Carpenter and
 > Carmen Electra Rumored Apprentice Contestants
 >  Is the Buffy/Angel alum one of the contestants on the celebrity version
 >  of the series?
 >  by IGN Staff
 >  
 >  September 12, 2007 - TV Guide is reporting that Buffy the Vampire Slayer
 >  and Angel alumni Charisma Carpenter will be one of the contestants on
 >  the upcoming celebrity edition of Donald Trump's The Apprentice,
 >  according to reliable sources. NBC hasn't officially announced any of
 >  the casting, but TV Guide also says there are rumors that Carmen Electra
 >  is another contestant.
 >  
 >  The Apprenctice was not actually on NBC's 2007-2998 lineup originally,
 >  but got a renewal later in the summer. The hope is that the celebrity
 >  version can give a boost to the show, which has fallen off in the
 >  ratings. There isn't a set date yet for The Apprentice's return, but it
 >  will debut sometime mid-season.
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Re: [scifinoir2] A New V May Be Coming!!

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was that the finale of the series? I have trouble remembering but that little 
girl--i remember that. 

-- Original message -- 
From: Astromancer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
Gotcha...now if you'll pardon me, I have to go and repress those memories 
again...

Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: NOW I remember...

I'll be over in the corner, shivering uncontrollably. Pardon the screaming sure 
to follow.

Astromancer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: You really, really don't want to know, 
but(having flashbacks of Star Crash...) The ship is climbing out of Earth 
orbit and there's a bomb ticking off that would destroy the planet...No one 
knows how to stop it when the little half alien girl walks over to the control 
panel, grabs it, glows a bit and...all over, the bomb is defused...I think my 
explanation sounds a lot better than it actually was, but my memory is a bit 
fuzzy from 1984 also...

Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Don't remember that, pal. How did it end?

Astromancer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: No, the ending to the last miniseries 
was a bad omen...

Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: The TV series never should've been done. 
Sooner a sequel on the mini-series.

Astromancer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: My complaint about the TV series is that 
they had pretty people and it sucked...

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The first Diane was cool. She was charming and 
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Re: [scifinoir2] Forest Whitaker To Do 'MAMBO'

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Never read Minority Report's source material. How did the ending stray (though 
from what I know about the author, I'd guess it was pretty bleak in the book).  
I see your point in some cases. "A.I." was damn near brilliant until that god 
awful ending. And I loved "War of the Worlds" in so many ways--the alien 
walkers were terrifying, emitting a sound almost as scary as the Shadows on B5. 
But they ruined the movie for me by insisting on including kids, which 
destroyed the whole thing.


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From: Daryle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
Same thing with everything Spielberg touches post Close Encounters -- the
ending. Nothing is as bad an ending as "A.I.", to be sure, but Minority
Report could have stayed a little truer to the book for me.

On 9/13/07 3:12 PM, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> i was okay with "Minority Report". What did you dislike about it?
> 
> -- Original message --
> From: Daryle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 
> I¹ll see your horror and raise you one ‹ first thing that came to mind was
> ³Minority Report² -- what if Steven Spielberg directed this movie? Halfway
> through we¹d forget what it was supposed to be about and be staring at
> aliens for an hour.
> 
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>> http://www.blackflix.com/coming_soon.html
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>> FOREST WHITAKER TO DO 'MAMBO'
>> 
>> September
>> 
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>> Alice Braga in the futuristic thriller "Repossession Mambo." Based on the
>> novel by Eric Garcia, the film is set in the near future when artificial
>> organs can be bought on credit with one catch - if the buyer defaults on
>> payment, it will result in a fatal repossession. Law's character - himself
>> "made up of artificial organs' - is a repo man who reclaims organs when
>> their recipients cannot make the payments. When he struggles to pay off
>> his new heart, he becomes one of the people he used to hunt down and must
>> go on the run with Braga's character, who is also down on her luck. The
>> Universal Pictures project is slated to begin Oct. 15 in Toronto.
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Re: [scifinoir2] A New V May Be Coming!!

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More than welcome, sir!

Astromancer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:   Thank you 
sir, you are so thoughtful!
 
 Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  (waving pics of Gabrielle Union and 
Nia Long, if it'll help)
 
 Astromancer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Gotcha...now if you'll pardon me, I 
have to go and repress those memories again...
 
 Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: NOW I remember...
 
 I'll be over in the corner, shivering uncontrollably. Pardon the screaming 
sure to follow.
 
 Astromancer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: You really, really don't want to know, 
but(having flashbacks of Star Crash...) The ship is climbing out of Earth 
orbit and there's a bomb ticking off that would destroy the planet...No one 
knows how to stop it when the little half alien girl walks over to the control 
panel, grabs it, glows a bit and...all over, the bomb is defused...I think my 
explanation sounds a lot better than it actually was, but my memory is a bit 
fuzzy from 1984 also...
 
 Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Don't remember that, pal. How did it end?
 
 Astromancer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: No, the ending to the last miniseries 
was a bad omen...
 
 Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: The TV series never should've been done. 
Sooner a sequel on the mini-series.
 
 Astromancer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: My complaint about the TV series is 
that they had pretty people and it sucked...
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The first Diane was cool. She was charming and 
devious. I don't want a Diana 
 that looks like the Vulcan chick from Enterprise. She can't act, She has fish 
 lips and no personality. I don't want a remake of Battlestar or Xena . I want 
 action and character. 
 
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Re: [scifinoir2] Charisma Carpenter & Carmen Electra Rumored Apprentice Contestant

[Martin]

Truly, I know. Just another gift of insanity...

Astromancer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:   That's 
scary, Martin...
 
 Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  Make it three. Never seen what it 
is about her. The body, yes, but I've seen better in nightclubs. And, to me, 
she's as sexy as Ronald Reagan.
 
 Martin (excusing self to scream for drawing that analogy)
 
 Astromancer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I'm with you, Keith...I'm a flatliner 
when it comes to Carmen too...
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: funny! Electra doesn't do anything for me, so I can 
breathe okay with just a little hitch in the respiration. Now, if you said 
Gabrielle Union and Kenya Moore were *also* going to guest star--I'd be gasping 
like a fish on land!
 
 -- Original message -- 
 From: Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
 Deep breaths, Keith. Deep breaths...
 
 Martin (wondering why he's sweating suddenly...)
 
 "Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
Charisma Carpenter and Carmen Electra Rumored Apprentice Contestants
 Is the Buffy/Angel alum one of the contestants on the celebrity version 
 of the series?
 by IGN Staff
 
 September 12, 2007 - TV Guide is reporting that Buffy the Vampire Slayer 
 and Angel alumni Charisma Carpenter will be one of the contestants on 
 the upcoming celebrity edition of Donald Trump's The Apprentice, 
 according to reliable sources. NBC hasn't officially announced any of 
 the casting, but TV Guide also says there are rumors that Carmen Electra 
 is another contestant.
 
 The Apprenctice was not actually on NBC's 2007-2998 lineup originally, 
 but got a renewal later in the summer. The hope is that the celebrity 
 version can give a boost to the show, which has fallen off in the 
 ratings. There isn't a set date yet for The Apprentice's return, but it 
 will debut sometime mid-season.
 http://tv.ign.com/articles/819/819565p1.html
 
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Re: [scifinoir2] Charisma Carpenter & Carmen Electra Rumored Apprentice Contestant

[Astromancer]

That's scary, Martin...

Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  Make it three. Never seen what it is 
about her. The body, yes, but I've seen better in nightclubs. And, to me, she's 
as sexy as Ronald Reagan.

Martin (excusing self to scream for drawing that analogy)

Astromancer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I'm with you, Keith...I'm a flatliner 
when it comes to Carmen too...

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: funny! Electra doesn't do anything for me, so I can 
breathe okay with just a little hitch in the respiration. Now, if you said 
Gabrielle Union and Kenya Moore were *also* going to guest star--I'd be gasping 
like a fish on land!

-- Original message -- 
From: Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
Deep breaths, Keith. Deep breaths...

Martin (wondering why he's sweating suddenly...)

"Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
Charisma Carpenter and Carmen Electra Rumored Apprentice Contestants
Is the Buffy/Angel alum one of the contestants on the celebrity version 
of the series?
by IGN Staff

September 12, 2007 - TV Guide is reporting that Buffy the Vampire Slayer 
and Angel alumni Charisma Carpenter will be one of the contestants on 
the upcoming celebrity edition of Donald Trump's The Apprentice, 
according to reliable sources. NBC hasn't officially announced any of 
the casting, but TV Guide also says there are rumors that Carmen Electra 
is another contestant.

The Apprenctice was not actually on NBC's 2007-2998 lineup originally, 
but got a renewal later in the summer. The hope is that the celebrity 
version can give a boost to the show, which has fallen off in the 
ratings. There isn't a set date yet for The Apprentice's return, but it 
will debut sometime mid-season.
http://tv.ign.com/articles/819/819565p1.html

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Re: [scifinoir2] A New V May Be Coming!!

[Astromancer]

Thank you sir, you are so thoughtful!

Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  (waving pics of Gabrielle Union and 
Nia Long, if it'll help)

Astromancer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Gotcha...now if you'll pardon me, I have 
to go and repress those memories again...

Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: NOW I remember...

I'll be over in the corner, shivering uncontrollably. Pardon the screaming sure 
to follow.

Astromancer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: You really, really don't want to know, 
but(having flashbacks of Star Crash...) The ship is climbing out of Earth 
orbit and there's a bomb ticking off that would destroy the planet...No one 
knows how to stop it when the little half alien girl walks over to the control 
panel, grabs it, glows a bit and...all over, the bomb is defused...I think my 
explanation sounds a lot better than it actually was, but my memory is a bit 
fuzzy from 1984 also...

Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Don't remember that, pal. How did it end?

Astromancer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: No, the ending to the last miniseries 
was a bad omen...

Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: The TV series never should've been done. 
Sooner a sequel on the mini-series.

Astromancer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: My complaint about the TV series is that 
they had pretty people and it sucked...

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The first Diane was cool. She was charming and 
devious. I don't want a Diana 
that looks like the Vulcan chick from Enterprise. She can't act, She has fish 
lips and no personality. I don't want a remake of Battlestar or Xena . I want 
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Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Forest Whitaker To Do 'MAMBO'

[Astromancer]

Yeah, I like it a lot...Brought tears to my eyes...

"B. Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  Blame Kubrick for AI's ending. 
Spielberg filmed the one that was 
written. 

What exactly was so bad about AI's ending? I thought it was fairly 
bittersweet.

--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Daryle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Same thing with everything Spielberg touches post Close Encounters -
- the
> ending. Nothing is as bad an ending as "A.I.", to be sure, but 
Minority
> Report could have stayed a little truer to the book for me.
> 
> 
> 
> On 9/13/07 3:12 PM, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> 
> > i was okay with "Minority Report". What did you dislike about it?
> > 
> > -- Original message --
> > From: Daryle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > 
> > I¹ll see your horror and raise you one ‹ first thing that came to 
mind was
> > ³Minority Report² -- what if Steven Spielberg directed this 
movie? Halfway
> > through we¹d forget what it was supposed to be about and be 
staring at
> > aliens for an hour.
> > 
> > On 9/13/07 12:49 PM, "Martin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> The horror...the *horror*...
> >> 
> >> [EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote:
> >> Just please, please don't let Michael Bay direct, or this will 
devolve
> >> quickly
> >> from a pointed satirical comment on society into a non-stop 
chase full of
> >> explosions and speeding vehicles on whatever passes for a 
highway in the
> >> future.
> >> 
> >> -- Original message --
> >> From: "Brent Wodehouse" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>  >
> >> http://www.blackflix.com/coming_soon.html
> >> 
> >> FOREST WHITAKER TO DO 'MAMBO'
> >> 
> >> September
> >> 
> >> Forest Whitaker has landed a role opposite Jude Law and 
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> >> Alice Braga in the futuristic thriller "Repossession Mambo." 
Based on the
> >> novel by Eric Garcia, the film is set in the near future when 
artificial
> >> organs can be bought on credit with one catch - if the buyer 
defaults on
> >> payment, it will result in a fatal repossession. Law's 
character - himself
> >> "made up of artificial organs' - is a repo man who reclaims 
organs when
> >> their recipients cannot make the payments. When he struggles to 
pay off
> >> his new heart, he becomes one of the people he used to hunt down 
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Re: [scifinoir2] Charisma Carpenter & Carmen Electra Rumored Apprentice Contestant

[Daryle]

We can thank Prince for bringing Tara ³Carmen Electra² Patrick to our
attention in the first  place. She was really only mildly amusing while he
was dragging her around. When he was done, I was done as well.  I¹ll  say
this...she¹s working her 15 minutes in a way nobody else can/has. If she
ever  wrote a book on how she¹s managed to Tom Arnold her way into pop
culture, I¹d buy it.


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>  
>  
>  
> 
> Make it three. Never seen what it is about her. The body, yes, but I've seen
> better in nightclubs. And, to me, she's as sexy as Ronald Reagan.
> 
> Martin (excusing self to scream for drawing that analogy)
> 
> Astromancer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]  > wrote:
> I'm with you, Keith...I'm a flatliner when it comes to Carmen too...
>  
>  [EMAIL PROTECTED]   wrote:
> funny! Electra doesn't do anything for me, so I can breathe okay with just a
> little hitch in the respiration. Now, if you said Gabrielle Union and Kenya
> Moore were *also* going to guest star--I'd be gasping like a fish on land!
>  
>  -- Original message --
>  From: Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> > 
>  Deep breaths, Keith. Deep breaths...
>  
>  Martin (wondering why he's sweating suddenly...)
>  
>  "Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)"
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>  > wrote: Charisma Carpenter and
> Carmen Electra Rumored Apprentice Contestants
>  Is the Buffy/Angel alum one of the contestants on the celebrity version
>  of the series?
>  by IGN Staff
>  
>  September 12, 2007 - TV Guide is reporting that Buffy the Vampire Slayer
>  and Angel alumni Charisma Carpenter will be one of the contestants on
>  the upcoming celebrity edition of Donald Trump's The Apprentice,
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>  the casting, but TV Guide also says there are rumors that Carmen Electra
>  is another contestant.
>  
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Re: [scifinoir2] Charisma Carpenter & Carmen Electra Rumored Apprentice Contestant

[Martin]

Make it three. Never seen what it is about her. The body, yes, but I've seen 
better in nightclubs. And, to me, she's as sexy as Ronald Reagan.

Martin (excusing self to scream for drawing that analogy)

Astromancer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:   I'm with 
you, Keith...I'm a flatliner when it comes to Carmen too...
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  funny! Electra doesn't do anything for me, 
so I can breathe okay with just a little hitch in the respiration. Now, if you 
said Gabrielle Union and Kenya Moore were *also* going to guest star--I'd be 
gasping like a fish on land!
 
 -- Original message -- 
 From: Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
 Deep breaths, Keith. Deep breaths...
 
 Martin (wondering why he's sweating suddenly...)
 
 "Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
Charisma Carpenter and Carmen Electra Rumored Apprentice Contestants
 Is the Buffy/Angel alum one of the contestants on the celebrity version 
 of the series?
 by IGN Staff
 
 September 12, 2007 - TV Guide is reporting that Buffy the Vampire Slayer 
 and Angel alumni Charisma Carpenter will be one of the contestants on 
 the upcoming celebrity edition of Donald Trump's The Apprentice, 
 according to reliable sources. NBC hasn't officially announced any of 
 the casting, but TV Guide also says there are rumors that Carmen Electra 
 is another contestant.
 
 The Apprenctice was not actually on NBC's 2007-2998 lineup originally, 
 but got a renewal later in the summer. The hope is that the celebrity 
 version can give a boost to the show, which has fallen off in the 
 ratings. There isn't a set date yet for The Apprentice's return, but it 
 will debut sometime mid-season.
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Re: [scifinoir2] A New V May Be Coming!!

[Martin]

(waving pics of Gabrielle Union and Nia Long, if it'll help)

Astromancer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:   
Gotcha...now if you'll pardon me, I have to go and repress those memories 
again...
 
 Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  NOW I remember...
 
 I'll be over in the corner, shivering uncontrollably. Pardon the screaming 
sure to follow.
 
 Astromancer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: You really, really don't want to know, 
but(having flashbacks of Star Crash...) The ship is climbing out of Earth 
orbit and there's a bomb ticking off that would destroy the planet...No one 
knows how to stop it when the little half alien girl walks over to the control 
panel, grabs it, glows a bit and...all over, the bomb is defused...I think my 
explanation sounds a lot better than it actually was, but my memory is a bit 
fuzzy from 1984 also...
 
 Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Don't remember that, pal. How did it end?
 
 Astromancer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: No, the ending to the last miniseries 
was a bad omen...
 
 Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: The TV series never should've been done. 
Sooner a sequel on the mini-series.
 
 Astromancer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: My complaint about the TV series is 
that they had pretty people and it sucked...
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The first Diane was cool. She was charming and 
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Re: [scifinoir2] Torchwood Premier Anyone?

[Astromancer]

Aint it the truth...

Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  Where the best stuff comes from, 
pal...

Astromancer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I had no idea what he was talking 
about...I just threw it out there

"Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I 
like that. I never thought of them as automated call systems. Funny :)

Martin wrote:
>
> LMNAO, pal!!!
>
> Gymfig, I think you're referring to Daleks, the Ultimate Racists. In 
> their eyes, anything that isn't Dalek deserves to be wiped out.
>
> Astromancer <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: 
> The automated call systems...
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Re: [scifinoir2] Torchwood Premier Anyone?

[Astromancer]

I stand corrected, Madame...and it explains how you answered a few of the 
questions posted...if you are curious, I made the same assuption about Oreo...

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  
In a message dated 9/13/2007 12:46:34 AM Eastern Standard Time, 
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I had no idea what he was talking about...I just threw it out there

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Re: [scifinoir2] A New V May Be Coming!!

[Astromancer]

Gotcha...now if you'll pardon me, I have to go and repress those memories 
again...

Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  NOW I remember...

I'll be over in the corner, shivering uncontrollably. Pardon the screaming sure 
to follow.

Astromancer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: You really, really don't want to know, 
but(having flashbacks of Star Crash...) The ship is climbing out of Earth 
orbit and there's a bomb ticking off that would destroy the planet...No one 
knows how to stop it when the little half alien girl walks over to the control 
panel, grabs it, glows a bit and...all over, the bomb is defused...I think my 
explanation sounds a lot better than it actually was, but my memory is a bit 
fuzzy from 1984 also...

Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Don't remember that, pal. How did it end?

Astromancer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: No, the ending to the last miniseries 
was a bad omen...

Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: The TV series never should've been done. 
Sooner a sequel on the mini-series.

Astromancer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: My complaint about the TV series is that 
they had pretty people and it sucked...

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The first Diane was cool. She was charming and 
devious. I don't want a Diana 
that looks like the Vulcan chick from Enterprise. She can't act, She has fish 
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[scifinoir2] Re: Forest Whitaker To Do 'MAMBO'

[B. Smith]

Blame Kubrick for AI's ending. Spielberg filmed the one that was 
written. 

What exactly was so bad about AI's ending? I thought it was fairly 
bittersweet.

--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Daryle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Same thing with everything Spielberg touches post Close Encounters -
- the
> ending. Nothing is as bad an ending as "A.I.", to be sure, but 
Minority
> Report could have stayed a little truer to the book for me.
> 
> 
> 
> On 9/13/07 3:12 PM, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> 
> > i was okay with "Minority Report". What did you dislike about it?
> > 
> > -- Original message --
> > From: Daryle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > 
> > I¹ll see your horror and raise you one ‹ first thing that came to 
mind was
> > ³Minority Report² -- what if Steven Spielberg directed this 
movie? Halfway
> > through we¹d forget what it was supposed to be about and be 
staring at
> > aliens for an hour.
> > 
> > On 9/13/07 12:49 PM, "Martin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> The horror...the *horror*...
> >> 
> >> [EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote:
> >> Just please, please don't let Michael Bay direct, or this will 
devolve
> >> quickly
> >> from a pointed satirical comment on society into a non-stop 
chase full of
> >> explosions and speeding vehicles on whatever passes for a 
highway in the
> >> future.
> >> 
> >> -- Original message --
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> >>  >
> >> http://www.blackflix.com/coming_soon.html
> >> 
> >> FOREST WHITAKER TO DO 'MAMBO'
> >> 
> >> September
> >> 
> >> Forest Whitaker has landed a role opposite Jude Law and 
Brazilian actress
> >> Alice Braga in the futuristic thriller "Repossession Mambo." 
Based on the
> >> novel by Eric Garcia, the film is set in the near future when 
artificial
> >> organs can be bought on credit with one catch - if the buyer 
defaults on
> >> payment, it will result in a fatal repossession. Law's 
character - himself
> >> "made up of artificial organs' - is a repo man who reclaims 
organs when
> >> their recipients cannot make the payments. When he struggles to 
pay off
> >> his new heart, he becomes one of the people he used to hunt down 
and must
> >> go on the run with Braga's character, who is also down on her 
luck. The
> >> Universal Pictures project is slated to begin Oct. 15 in Toronto.
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[scifinoir2] Re: Maria Bello to star in "Mummy 3"

[B. Smith]

Exactly. He said he wouldn't be doing any more wuxia or period 
pieces. He said he wanted to do more traditional action movies and 
maybe even some comedy.

--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> I believe Li meant to say he'd never act again in another pure 
martial arts film. He's done a lot of period pieces from a century or 
more ago.  He's going to still do action flicks, but it seems he 
wants to add some more Chow Yun Fat style of action, bringing in guns 
and all. He'll still do the kung fu, but it won't be the focus of any 
future films he does.
> 
> -- Original message -- 
> From: Daryle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> 
> What ever happened to Jet Li retiring? Wasn¹t Unleashed or 
something billed
> as ³Jet Li¹s final action movie²? Don¹t get me wrong, I love Jet 
Li¹s work,
> and I understand the need to do movies like ³War² to balance out 
his work
> in Chinese (gotta keep the brand relevant and all) but is there 
nobody else
> out there that knows multiple styles? It used to be when Jet Li 
signed
> on to do your movie it was a special event. Now it seems he¹s 
working more
> than Jackie is.
> 
> On 9/13/07 8:30 AM, "Martin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > (grinning at the thought of those three on the same screen...)
> > 
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote: 
Yeah,
> > all we need are Chow Yun Fat, Jackie Chan, and Michelle Yeoh, and 
we can
> > dispense with Brendan Frasier (who I never thought was all the 
interesting as
> > the hero anyway).
> > 
> > -- Original message --
> > From: Astromancer
> > LOL@ Jet LiWhoa, I just finished reading this...Jet Li, huh?
> > 
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote: 
Huh, i
> > didn't know there was going to be a third Mummy flick. I thought 
the second
> > was only fair. Maybe with Jet Li it'll be cool. I'm skeptical...
> > 
> > **
> > 
> > http://www.scifi.com/scifiwire/index.php?category=3&id=44010
> > 
> > 
> > Bello Takes Over In Mummy 3
> > 
> > Maria Bello, who co-stars in the upcoming sequel film The Mummy: 
Tomb of the
> > Dragon Emperor, told SCI FI Wire that she plays a kick-ass 
version of the
> > character originated by Rachel Weisz.
> > 
> > Bello, who won wide acclaim for 2005's A History of Violence, 
spoke at the
> > Toronto International Film Festival and added that she dyed her 
normally blond
> > hair auburn for the sequel. "Yeah, it's for a film role. It's for 
Mummy 3, and
> > I love it," she said.
> > 
> > Bello, who took time off from filming in Montreal to appear at 
the film
> > festival to promote The Jane Austen Book Club, takes over the 
role of Evelyn
> > Carnahan from Weisz, who played the character in the first two 
Mummy movies
> > but bowed out of the third.
> > 
> > "She has the same name, but she's a very different character than 
Rachel
> > played," Bello said in an interview. "She's a bad-ass action 
chick. I had to
> > train a lot. I had to do wushu, a martial-art form, some 
kickboxing,
> > swordfighting, rifle training for a couple of months before we 
even started
> > shooting." Bello added: "It's the role of my dreams. It is just a 
blast."
> > 
> > Bello will soon join co-stars Brendan Fraser and Jet Li for two 
months of
> > shooting in China.
> > 
> > Bello said that after a few weeks of rehearsal, she sustained a 
black eye
> > after getting butted by a Winchester rifle, but added that she's 
fine now.
> > "I'm looking forward to the doll, too, though," she said 
cryptically. The
> > Mummy: Tomb of the Dragon Emperor opens Aug. 1, 2008.
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Re: [scifinoir2] Forest Whitaker To Do 'MAMBO'

[Daryle]

Same thing with everything Spielberg touches post Close Encounters -- the
ending. Nothing is as bad an ending as "A.I.", to be sure, but Minority
Report could have stayed a little truer to the book for me.



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> i was okay with "Minority Report". What did you dislike about it?
> 
> -- Original message --
> From: Daryle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 
> I¹ll see your horror and raise you one ‹ first thing that came to mind was
> ³Minority Report² -- what if Steven Spielberg directed this movie? Halfway
> through we¹d forget what it was supposed to be about and be staring at
> aliens for an hour.
> 
> On 9/13/07 12:49 PM, "Martin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> The horror...the *horror*...
>> 
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote:
>> Just please, please don't let Michael Bay direct, or this will devolve
>> quickly
>> from a pointed satirical comment on society into a non-stop chase full of
>> explosions and speeding vehicles on whatever passes for a highway in the
>> future.
>> 
>> -- Original message --
>> From: "Brent Wodehouse" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>  >
>> http://www.blackflix.com/coming_soon.html
>> 
>> FOREST WHITAKER TO DO 'MAMBO'
>> 
>> September
>> 
>> Forest Whitaker has landed a role opposite Jude Law and Brazilian actress
>> Alice Braga in the futuristic thriller "Repossession Mambo." Based on the
>> novel by Eric Garcia, the film is set in the near future when artificial
>> organs can be bought on credit with one catch - if the buyer defaults on
>> payment, it will result in a fatal repossession. Law's character - himself
>> "made up of artificial organs' - is a repo man who reclaims organs when
>> their recipients cannot make the payments. When he struggles to pay off
>> his new heart, he becomes one of the people he used to hunt down and must
>> go on the run with Braga's character, who is also down on her luck. The
>> Universal Pictures project is slated to begin Oct. 15 in Toronto.
>> 
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Re: [scifinoir2] Charisma Carpenter & Carmen Electra Rumored Apprentice Contestant

[Astromancer]

I'm with you, Keith...I'm a flatliner when it comes to Carmen too...

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  funny! Electra doesn't do anything for me, so 
I can breathe okay with just a little hitch in the respiration. Now, if you 
said Gabrielle Union and Kenya Moore were *also* going to guest star--I'd be 
gasping like a fish on land!

-- Original message -- 
From: Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
Deep breaths, Keith. Deep breaths...

Martin (wondering why he's sweating suddenly...)

"Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
Charisma Carpenter and Carmen Electra Rumored Apprentice Contestants
Is the Buffy/Angel alum one of the contestants on the celebrity version 
of the series?
by IGN Staff

September 12, 2007 - TV Guide is reporting that Buffy the Vampire Slayer 
and Angel alumni Charisma Carpenter will be one of the contestants on 
the upcoming celebrity edition of Donald Trump's The Apprentice, 
according to reliable sources. NBC hasn't officially announced any of 
the casting, but TV Guide also says there are rumors that Carmen Electra 
is another contestant.

The Apprenctice was not actually on NBC's 2007-2998 lineup originally, 
but got a renewal later in the summer. The hope is that the celebrity 
version can give a boost to the show, which has fallen off in the 
ratings. There isn't a set date yet for The Apprentice's return, but it 
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Re: [scifinoir2] Forest Whitaker To Do 'MAMBO'

[KeithBJohnson]

i was okay with "Minority Report". What did you dislike about it?

-- Original message -- 
From: Daryle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 

I¹ll see your horror and raise you one ‹ first thing that came to mind was
³Minority Report² -- what if Steven Spielberg directed this movie? Halfway
through we¹d forget what it was supposed to be about and be staring at
aliens for an hour.

On 9/13/07 12:49 PM, "Martin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> 
> 
> 
> 
> The horror...the *horror*...
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote:
> Just please, please don't let Michael Bay direct, or this will devolve quickly
> from a pointed satirical comment on society into a non-stop chase full of
> explosions and speeding vehicles on whatever passes for a highway in the
> future.
> 
> -- Original message --
> From: "Brent Wodehouse" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>  >
> http://www.blackflix.com/coming_soon.html
> 
> FOREST WHITAKER TO DO 'MAMBO'
> 
> September
> 
> Forest Whitaker has landed a role opposite Jude Law and Brazilian actress
> Alice Braga in the futuristic thriller "Repossession Mambo." Based on the
> novel by Eric Garcia, the film is set in the near future when artificial
> organs can be bought on credit with one catch - if the buyer defaults on
> payment, it will result in a fatal repossession. Law's character - himself
> "made up of artificial organs' - is a repo man who reclaims organs when
> their recipients cannot make the payments. When he struggles to pay off
> his new heart, he becomes one of the people he used to hunt down and must
> go on the run with Braga's character, who is also down on her luck. The
> Universal Pictures project is slated to begin Oct. 15 in Toronto.
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Re: [scifinoir2] OT: Six arrested, charged in woman's weeklong torture

[KeithBJohnson]

amen!

-- Original message -- 
From: Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
Keith- and to think they makes jokes about us here in the South!

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jesus Christ (forgive me Lord!) Talk about a 
dysfunctional family! Mom helped kill an elderly woman? Junior went after mom 
with a machete? When the cop first said they tended to get in trouble on the 
weekends, I thought he meant the standard drunking arugments in the front yard, 
with a few clumsy off-balance punches thrown. This is waaay beyond that.

Thank the Lord Above that they're all going to jail--for life I hope!

-- Original message -- 
From: "Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)" 
More on this story...
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=14307118&sc=emaf

/BIG CREEK, W.Va./ September 12, 2007, 11:23 p.m. ET · Authorities 
decided Wednesday not to pursue hate crime charges in the kidnapping and 
weeklong torture of a black woman, instead going after the suspects, who 
are white, on state charges that carry stiffer penalties.

While federal civil rights or state hate crime charges remain an option, 
a state kidnapping count that carries a sentence of up to life in prison 
will provide the best chance for successful prosecution, officials said.

"As a practical matter, sentenced to life, what else can be done?" U.S. 
Attorney Charles T. Miller told The Associated Press.

Six people face charges, including kidnapping, sexual assault and lying 
to police in the torture of Megan Williams, 20, at a remote hillside 
home in Big Creek.

State hate crime charges, which carry a sentence of 10 years, could come 
later, prosecutor Brian Abraham said. State sexual assault charges carry 
a penalty up to 35 years in prison.

The woman's captors forced her to eat rat droppings, choked her with a 
cable cord and stabbed her in the leg while calling her a racial slur, 
according to criminal complaints. They also poured hot water over her, 
made her drink from a toilet, and beat and sexually assaulted her during 
a span of about a week, the documents say.

Williams was not a random target, prosecutor Brian Abraham said 
Wednesday. She had a "social relationship" with one of the suspects, he 
said.

The Associated Press generally does not identify suspected victims of 
sexual assault, but Williams and her mother, Carmen Williams, agreed to 
release her name. Carmen Williams said she wanted people to know what 
her daughter had endured.

At one point, a suspect cut the woman's ankle with a knife and used the 
N-word in telling her she was victimized because she is black, according 
to the complaints.

It wasn't until an anonymous tip led Logan County sheriff's deputies to 
the property on Saturday that her ordeal ended, authorities said. She 
limped toward the deputies, her arms outstretched as she cried, "Help 
me," officials said.

Williams remained hospitalized Wednesday in Charleston. The hospital 
declined to release any information about her condition.

The victim had a previous relationship with Bobby Brewster, one of the 
six in custody, Abraham said. He was charged in July with domestic 
battery and assault after a domestic dispute involving the same woman.

"She obviously had some sort of social relationship," Abraham said. 
"That is based on the fact that she was present at his residence on a 
prior date."

The suspects have arrest records going back several years, according to 
records from Logan County Magistrate Court, and Abraham said was he 
familiar with all of them.

"Most of the charges are minor things," Abraham said. "Basically on 
weekends they get in trouble and by the middle of the week they make up 
with each other."

Since 1991, police have filed 108 criminal charges against the six.

Brewster's mother, Frankie Brewster, 49, faced the most serious charges 
among them. She was charged in 1994 with first-degree murder but pleaded 
guilty to manslaughter and wanton endangerment. She was released from 
prison in 2000 after serving five years in the death of an 84-year-old 
woman, court records show.

In Williams' case, Frankie Brewster is charged with kidnapping, sexual 
assault, malicious wounding and giving false information during a felony 
investigation.

Bobby Brewster, 24, also of Big Creek, is charged with kidnapping, 
sexual assault, malicious wounding and assault during the commission of 
a felony.

In March, Brewster was accused in criminal complaints of attacking his 
mother with a machete at her home, according to court records. The 
outcome of those charges — domestic assault, brandishing a deadly weapon 
and obstructing an officer — was not immediately clear.

Danny J. Combs, 20, of Harts, is charged with sexual assault and 
malicious wounding. Karen Burton, 46, of Chapmanville, was charged with 
malicious wounding, battery and assault during the commission of a felony.

Burton's daughter, Alisha Burton, 23, and George A. Messer, 27, both of 
Chapma

Re: [scifinoir2] Online worlds to be AI incubators

[Martin]

Can anyone say HAL 9000? Colossus? Proteus IV?

Martin (off to forward this to a guy who just might have a coronary ten secs 
after reading it)

Brent Wodehouse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:   
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/6992613.stm
 
 Online worlds to be AI incubators
 
 By Mark Ward
 Technology Correspondent, BBC News website
 
 Online worlds such as Second Life will soon become training grounds for
 artificial intelligences.
 
 Researchers at US firm Novamente have created software that learns by
 controlling avatars in virtual worlds.
 
 Initially the AIs will be embodied in pets that will get smarter by
 interacting with the avatars controlled by their human owners.
 
 Novamente said it eventually aimed to create more sophisticated avatars
 such as talking parrots and even babies.
 
 Virtual adoption
 
 "The virtual world provides the body," said Dr Ben Goertzel, founder and
 head of Novamente.
 
 He said the company had developed a "Cognition Engine" that acted as the
 thinking part of the artificial intelligences it wanted to create.
 
 This engine had some partially scripted behaviours and goals for the
 avatar under its control but was also capable of reasoning to work out
 novel ways to achieve its aims.
 
 Dr Goertzel said business and research reasons drew Novamente towards
 using virtual worlds for its AI development.
 
 There was likely to be a ready market for smart virtual pets in worlds
 such as Second Life and many others, he said.
 
 "There are a lot of virtual pets out there and none of them have much
 intelligence," he said.
 
 "We have a pretty fully functioning animal brain right now and we are
 hooking it up to the different virtual worlds," said Dr Goertzel. "There's
 not much doubt that we can make really cool artificial animals.
 
 "They could be ambient animals that go around and try to achieve their own
 goals, or pets that you can give people so they teach them."
 
 Initially Novamente would focus on pets such as dogs or monkeys but aimed
 to branch out afterwards.
 
 "I'd really like to do virtual talking parrots," he said, "and then
 virtual babies. You would get one and it would be yours for the next 18
 years."
 
 Also, said Dr Goertzel, smart virtual animals were likely to get a good
 reception among gamers and those that spend time in online worlds.
 
 "The gaming industry has been one of the few places where AI has not been
 a dirty word," he said.
 
 Many of the computer controlled characters in games are driven by basic AI
 programs that dictate how they behave when attacked, when they spot a
 player's character or how they interact.
 
 Body language
 
 On the research side, said Dr Goertzel, virtual worlds also solved the
 problem of giving an AI a relatively unsophisticated environment in which
 it could live and learn.
 
 "I'm one of many AI theorists who believe that embodiment is important,"
 he said. "Typing stuff back and forth does not give the AI much to go on
 in terms of understanding the world around it, or itself or its place in
 that world."
 
 This desire to embody artificial intelligences led many to robots, he
 said, but that approach presented its own problems.
 
 "Robots have a lot of disadvantages, we have not solved all the problems
 of getting them to move around and see the world," he said. "It's a lot
 more practical to control virtual robots in simulated worlds than real
 robots."
 
 Novamente is working on avatars for different virtual worlds with The
 Electric Sheep company that specialises in producing artificial entities
 for online environments.
 
 Dr Goertzel said Novamente was due to announce its first products and
 which worlds they would appear in at the Virtual Worlds conference being
 held in San Jose in early October.
 
 
 
   


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Re: [scifinoir2] Maria Bello to star in "Mummy 3"

[KeithBJohnson]

I believe Li meant to say he'd never act again in another pure martial arts 
film. He's done a lot of period pieces from a century or more ago.  He's going 
to still do action flicks, but it seems he wants to add some more Chow Yun Fat 
style of action, bringing in guns and all. He'll still do the kung fu, but it 
won't be the focus of any future films he does.

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From: Daryle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 

What ever happened to Jet Li retiring? Wasn¹t Unleashed or something billed
as ³Jet Li¹s final action movie²? Don¹t get me wrong, I love Jet Li¹s work,
and I understand the need to do movies like ³War² to balance out his work
in Chinese (gotta keep the brand relevant and all) but is there nobody else
out there that knows multiple styles? It used to be when Jet Li signed
on to do your movie it was a special event. Now it seems he¹s working more
than Jackie is.

On 9/13/07 8:30 AM, "Martin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> 
> 
> 
> 
> (grinning at the thought of those three on the same screen...)
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote: Yeah,
> all we need are Chow Yun Fat, Jackie Chan, and Michelle Yeoh, and we can
> dispense with Brendan Frasier (who I never thought was all the interesting as
> the hero anyway).
> 
> -- Original message --
> From: Astromancer
> LOL@ Jet LiWhoa, I just finished reading this...Jet Li, huh?
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote: Huh, i
> didn't know there was going to be a third Mummy flick. I thought the second
> was only fair. Maybe with Jet Li it'll be cool. I'm skeptical...
> 
> **
> 
> http://www.scifi.com/scifiwire/index.php?category=3&id=44010
> 
> 
> Bello Takes Over In Mummy 3
> 
> Maria Bello, who co-stars in the upcoming sequel film The Mummy: Tomb of the
> Dragon Emperor, told SCI FI Wire that she plays a kick-ass version of the
> character originated by Rachel Weisz.
> 
> Bello, who won wide acclaim for 2005's A History of Violence, spoke at the
> Toronto International Film Festival and added that she dyed her normally blond
> hair auburn for the sequel. "Yeah, it's for a film role. It's for Mummy 3, and
> I love it," she said.
> 
> Bello, who took time off from filming in Montreal to appear at the film
> festival to promote The Jane Austen Book Club, takes over the role of Evelyn
> Carnahan from Weisz, who played the character in the first two Mummy movies
> but bowed out of the third.
> 
> "She has the same name, but she's a very different character than Rachel
> played," Bello said in an interview. "She's a bad-ass action chick. I had to
> train a lot. I had to do wushu, a martial-art form, some kickboxing,
> swordfighting, rifle training for a couple of months before we even started
> shooting." Bello added: "It's the role of my dreams. It is just a blast."
> 
> Bello will soon join co-stars Brendan Fraser and Jet Li for two months of
> shooting in China.
> 
> Bello said that after a few weeks of rehearsal, she sustained a black eye
> after getting butted by a Winchester rifle, but added that she's fine now.
> "I'm looking forward to the doll, too, though," she said cryptically. The
> Mummy: Tomb of the Dragon Emperor opens Aug. 1, 2008.
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[scifinoir2] Online worlds to be AI incubators

[Brent Wodehouse]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/6992613.stm

Online worlds to be AI incubators

By Mark Ward
Technology Correspondent, BBC News website


Online worlds such as Second Life will soon become training grounds for
artificial intelligences.

Researchers at US firm Novamente have created software that learns by
controlling avatars in virtual worlds.

Initially the AIs will be embodied in pets that will get smarter by
interacting with the avatars controlled by their human owners.

Novamente said it eventually aimed to create more sophisticated avatars
such as talking parrots and even babies.


Virtual adoption

"The virtual world provides the body," said Dr Ben Goertzel, founder and
head of Novamente.

He said the company had developed a "Cognition Engine" that acted as the
thinking part of the artificial intelligences it wanted to create.

This engine had some partially scripted behaviours and goals for the
avatar under its control but was also capable of reasoning to work out
novel ways to achieve its aims.

Dr Goertzel said business and research reasons drew Novamente towards
using virtual worlds for its AI development.

There was likely to be a ready market for smart virtual pets in worlds
such as Second Life and many others, he said.

"There are a lot of virtual pets out there and none of them have much
intelligence," he said.

"We have a pretty fully functioning animal brain right now and we are
hooking it up to the different virtual worlds," said Dr Goertzel. "There's
not much doubt that we can make really cool artificial animals.

"They could be ambient animals that go around and try to achieve their own
goals, or pets that you can give people so they teach them."

Initially Novamente would focus on pets such as dogs or monkeys but aimed
to branch out afterwards.

"I'd really like to do virtual talking parrots," he said, "and then
virtual babies. You would get one and it would be yours for the next 18
years."

 Also, said Dr Goertzel, smart virtual animals were likely to get a good
reception among gamers and those that spend time in online worlds.

"The gaming industry has been one of the few places where AI has not been
a dirty word," he said.

Many of the computer controlled characters in games are driven by basic AI
programs that dictate how they behave when attacked, when they spot a
player's character or how they interact.


Body language

On the research side, said Dr Goertzel, virtual worlds also solved the
problem of giving an AI a relatively unsophisticated environment in which
it could live and learn.

"I'm one of many AI theorists who believe that embodiment is important,"
he said. "Typing stuff back and forth does not give the AI much to go on
in terms of understanding the world around it, or itself or its place in
that world."

This desire to embody artificial intelligences led many to robots, he
said, but that approach presented its own problems.

"Robots have a lot of disadvantages, we have not solved all the problems
of getting them to move around and see the world," he said. "It's a lot
more practical to control virtual robots in simulated worlds than real
robots."

Novamente is working on avatars for different virtual worlds with The
Electric Sheep company that specialises in producing artificial entities
for online environments.

Dr Goertzel said Novamente was due to announce its first products and
which worlds they would appear in at the Virtual Worlds conference being
held in San Jose in early October.

[scifinoir2] Re: OT: Six arrested, charged in woman's weeklong torture

[moondancerdrake]

> Lifetime in jail sounds good to me.
> 

Unfortunately, what sounds good to me the regulations of the Geneva 
Convention prohibit. There is no punishment to make up for even one 
percent of what these less then human creatures did to this woman. If 
prison is their final punishment I home they get their cellmates a pack 
of ciggs or two for their worthless hides.

Moondancer

Re: [scifinoir2] Charisma Carpenter & Carmen Electra Rumored Apprentice Contestant

[Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)]

CHARISMA!

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> funny! Electra doesn't do anything for me, so I can breathe okay with 
> just a little hitch in the respiration. Now, if you said Gabrielle 
> Union and Kenya Moore were *also* going to guest star--I'd be gasping 
> like a fish on land!
>
>  -- Original message  --
> From: Martin  >
> Deep breaths, Keith. Deep breaths...
>
> Martin (wondering why he's sweating suddenly...)
>
> "Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> aladvantage. com > wrote: 
> Charisma Carpenter and Carmen Electra Rumored Apprentice Contestants
> Is the Buffy/Angel alum one of the contestants on the celebrity version
> of the series?
> by IGN Staff
>
> September 12, 2007 - TV Guide is reporting that Buffy the Vampire Slayer
> and Angel alumni Charisma Carpenter will be one of the contestants on
> the upcoming celebrity edition of Donald Trump's The Apprentice,
> according to reliable sources. NBC hasn't officially announced any of
> the casting, but TV Guide also says there are rumors that Carmen Electra
> is another contestant.
>
> The Apprenctice was not actually on NBC's 2007-2998 lineup originally,
> but got a renewal later in the summer. The hope is that the celebrity
> version can give a boost to the show, which has fallen off in the
> ratings. There isn't a set date yet for The Apprentice's return, but it
> will debut sometime mid-season.
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Re: [scifinoir2] Charisma Carpenter & Carmen Electra Rumored Apprentice Contestant

[Martin]

And I'm sure he's appreciating it...

"Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: You 
know I posted this just for him  (smirk)

Martin wrote:
>
> Deep breaths, Keith. Deep breaths...
>
> Martin (wondering why he's sweating suddenly...)
>
> "Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)" 
> aladvantage. com > wrote: 
> Charisma Carpenter and Carmen Electra Rumored Apprentice Contestants
> Is the Buffy/Angel alum one of the contestants on the celebrity version
> of the series?
> by IGN Staff
>
> September 12, 2007 - TV Guide is reporting that Buffy the Vampire Slayer
> and Angel alumni Charisma Carpenter will be one of the contestants on
> the upcoming celebrity edition of Donald Trump's The Apprentice,
> according to reliable sources. NBC hasn't officially announced any of
> the casting, but TV Guide also says there are rumors that Carmen Electra
> is another contestant.
>
> The Apprenctice was not actually on NBC's 2007-2998 lineup originally,
> but got a renewal later in the summer. The hope is that the celebrity
> version can give a boost to the show, which has fallen off in the
> ratings. There isn't a set date yet for The Apprentice's return, but it
> will debut sometime mid-season.
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Re: [scifinoir2] Torchwood Premier Anyone?

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Re: [scifinoir2] OT: Six arrested, charged in woman's weeklong torture

[Martin]

Keith- and to think they makes jokes about us here in the South!

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jesus Christ (forgive me Lord!) Talk about a 
dysfunctional family! Mom helped kill an elderly woman? Junior went after mom 
with a machete? When the cop first said they tended to get in trouble on the 
weekends, I thought he meant the standard drunking arugments in the front yard, 
with a few clumsy off-balance punches thrown. This is waaay beyond that.

Thank the Lord Above that they're all going to jail--for life I hope!

-- Original message -- 
From: "Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)"  
More on this story...
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=14307118&sc=emaf

/BIG CREEK, W.Va./ September 12, 2007, 11:23 p.m. ET · Authorities 
decided Wednesday not to pursue hate crime charges in the kidnapping and 
weeklong torture of a black woman, instead going after the suspects, who 
are white, on state charges that carry stiffer penalties.

While federal civil rights or state hate crime charges remain an option, 
a state kidnapping count that carries a sentence of up to life in prison 
will provide the best chance for successful prosecution, officials said.

"As a practical matter, sentenced to life, what else can be done?" U.S. 
Attorney Charles T. Miller told The Associated Press.

Six people face charges, including kidnapping, sexual assault and lying 
to police in the torture of Megan Williams, 20, at a remote hillside 
home in Big Creek.

State hate crime charges, which carry a sentence of 10 years, could come 
later, prosecutor Brian Abraham said. State sexual assault charges carry 
a penalty up to 35 years in prison.

The woman's captors forced her to eat rat droppings, choked her with a 
cable cord and stabbed her in the leg while calling her a racial slur, 
according to criminal complaints. They also poured hot water over her, 
made her drink from a toilet, and beat and sexually assaulted her during 
a span of about a week, the documents say.

Williams was not a random target, prosecutor Brian Abraham said 
Wednesday. She had a "social relationship" with one of the suspects, he 
said.

The Associated Press generally does not identify suspected victims of 
sexual assault, but Williams and her mother, Carmen Williams, agreed to 
release her name. Carmen Williams said she wanted people to know what 
her daughter had endured.

At one point, a suspect cut the woman's ankle with a knife and used the 
N-word in telling her she was victimized because she is black, according 
to the complaints.

It wasn't until an anonymous tip led Logan County sheriff's deputies to 
the property on Saturday that her ordeal ended, authorities said. She 
limped toward the deputies, her arms outstretched as she cried, "Help 
me," officials said.

Williams remained hospitalized Wednesday in Charleston. The hospital 
declined to release any information about her condition.

The victim had a previous relationship with Bobby Brewster, one of the 
six in custody, Abraham said. He was charged in July with domestic 
battery and assault after a domestic dispute involving the same woman.

"She obviously had some sort of social relationship," Abraham said. 
"That is based on the fact that she was present at his residence on a 
prior date."

The suspects have arrest records going back several years, according to 
records from Logan County Magistrate Court, and Abraham said was he 
familiar with all of them.

"Most of the charges are minor things," Abraham said. "Basically on 
weekends they get in trouble and by the middle of the week they make up 
with each other."

Since 1991, police have filed 108 criminal charges against the six.

Brewster's mother, Frankie Brewster, 49, faced the most serious charges 
among them. She was charged in 1994 with first-degree murder but pleaded 
guilty to manslaughter and wanton endangerment. She was released from 
prison in 2000 after serving five years in the death of an 84-year-old 
woman, court records show.

In Williams' case, Frankie Brewster is charged with kidnapping, sexual 
assault, malicious wounding and giving false information during a felony 
investigation.

Bobby Brewster, 24, also of Big Creek, is charged with kidnapping, 
sexual assault, malicious wounding and assault during the commission of 
a felony.

In March, Brewster was accused in criminal complaints of attacking his 
mother with a machete at her home, according to court records. The 
outcome of those charges — domestic assault, brandishing a deadly weapon 
and obstructing an officer — was not immediately clear.

Danny J. Combs, 20, of Harts, is charged with sexual assault and 
malicious wounding. Karen Burton, 46, of Chapmanville, was charged with 
malicious wounding, battery and assault during the commission of a felony.

Burton's daughter, Alisha Burton, 23, and George A. Messer, 27, both of 
Chapmanville, are charged with assault during the commission of a felony 
and battery. She pre

Re: [scifinoir2] Torchwood Premier Anyone?

[Martin]

With time-travel capability, let's not forget.

"Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: The 
Doctor almost destroyed them a few weeks ago by doing something to 
their genome, but one of them had merged with a human and wanted to 
evolve, so he did not destroy them.  Unfortunately the rest of the 
Darleks disagreed and mutinied.  However, some pigmen they created 
retaliated and now there is only one mad Darlek.

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Re: [scifinoir2] Torchwood Premier Anyone?

[Martin]

More than welcome. Feel free to ask any questions. I'm always around.

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Re: [scifinoir2] Charisma Carpenter & Carmen Electra Rumored Apprentice Contestant

[Martin]

(now using deep-breathing techniques for self)

Daryle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:   Gabrielle Union 
on the Apprentice would be the highest rated show in the
 history of television.
 
 On 9/13/07 1:10 PM, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
 wrote:
 
 >  
 >  
 >  
 > 
 > funny! Electra doesn't do anything for me, so I can breathe okay with just a
 > little hitch in the respiration. Now, if you said Gabrielle Union and Kenya
 > Moore were *also* going to  guest star--I'd be gasping like a fish on land!
 > 
 > -- Original message --
 > From: Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]  >
 > Deep breaths, Keith. Deep breaths...
 > 
 > Martin (wondering why he's sweating suddenly...)
 > 
 > "Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)"
 > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 >  > wrote: Charisma Carpenter and
 > Carmen Electra Rumored Apprentice Contestants
 > Is the Buffy/Angel alum one of the contestants on the celebrity version
 > of the series?
 > by IGN Staff
 > 
 > September 12, 2007 - TV Guide is reporting that Buffy the Vampire Slayer
 > and Angel alumni Charisma Carpenter will be one of the contestants on
 > the upcoming celebrity edition of Donald Trump's The Apprentice,
 > according to reliable sources. NBC hasn't officially announced any of
 > the casting, but TV Guide also says there are rumors that Carmen Electra
 > is another contestant.
 > 
 > The Apprenctice was not actually on NBC's 2007-2998 lineup originally,
 > but got a renewal later in the summer. The hope is that the celebrity
 > version can give a boost to the show, which has fallen off in the
 > ratings. There isn't a set date yet for The Apprentice's return, but it
 > will debut sometime mid-season.
 > http://tv.ign.com/articles/819/819565p1.html
 > 
 > Yahoo! Groups Links
 > 
 > "There is no reason Good can't triumph over Evil, if only angels will get
 > organized along the lines of the Mafia." -Kurt Vonnegut, "A Man Without A
 > Country"
 > 
 
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Re: [scifinoir2] Forest Whitaker To Do 'MAMBO'

[Martin]

(removing brain for acid scrubbing)

Daryle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:   
 I¹ll see your horror and raise you one ‹ first thing that  came to  mind was
 ³Minority Report² -- what if Steven Spielberg directed this movie? Halfway
 through we¹d forget what it was supposed to be about and be staring at
 aliens for an hour.
 
 On 9/13/07 12:49 PM, "Martin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
 
 >  
 >  
 >  
 > 
 > The horror...the *horror*...
 > 
 > [EMAIL PROTECTED]   wrote:
 > Just please, please don't let Michael Bay direct, or this will devolve 
 > quickly
 > from a pointed satirical comment on society into a non-stop chase full of
 > explosions and speeding vehicles on whatever passes for a highway in the
 > future.
 >  
 >  -- Original message --
 >  From: "Brent Wodehouse" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 >  >
 >  http://www.blackflix.com/coming_soon.html
 >  
 >  FOREST WHITAKER TO DO 'MAMBO'
 >  
 >  September
 >  
 >  Forest Whitaker has landed a role opposite Jude Law and Brazilian actress
 >  Alice Braga in the futuristic thriller "Repossession Mambo." Based on the
 >  novel by Eric Garcia, the film is set in the near future when artificial
 >  organs can be bought on credit with one catch - if the buyer defaults on
 >  payment, it will result in a fatal repossession. Law's character - himself
 >  "made up of artificial organs' - is a repo man who reclaims organs when
 >  their recipients cannot make the payments. When he struggles to pay off
 >  his new heart, he becomes one of the people he used to hunt down and must
 >  go on the run with Braga's character, who is also down on her luck. The
 >  Universal Pictures project is slated to begin Oct. 15 in Toronto.
 >  
 >  [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
 >  
 >  
 >  
 >  
 > 
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 > Country"
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Re: [scifinoir2] Forest Whitaker To Do 'MAMBO'

[Daryle]

I¹ll see your horror and raise you one ‹ first thing that  came to  mind was
³Minority Report² -- what if Steven Spielberg directed this movie? Halfway
through we¹d forget what it was supposed to be about and be staring at
aliens for an hour.


On 9/13/07 12:49 PM, "Martin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>  
>  
>  
> 
> The horror...the *horror*...
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]   wrote:
> Just please, please don't let Michael Bay direct, or this will devolve quickly
> from a pointed satirical comment on society into a non-stop chase full of
> explosions and speeding vehicles on whatever passes for a highway in the
> future.
>  
>  -- Original message --
>  From: "Brent Wodehouse" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>  >
>  http://www.blackflix.com/coming_soon.html
>  
>  FOREST WHITAKER TO DO 'MAMBO'
>  
>  September
>  
>  Forest Whitaker has landed a role opposite Jude Law and Brazilian actress
>  Alice Braga in the futuristic thriller "Repossession Mambo." Based on the
>  novel by Eric Garcia, the film is set in the near future when artificial
>  organs can be bought on credit with one catch - if the buyer defaults on
>  payment, it will result in a fatal repossession. Law's character - himself
>  "made up of artificial organs' - is a repo man who reclaims organs when
>  their recipients cannot make the payments. When he struggles to pay off
>  his new heart, he becomes one of the people he used to hunt down and must
>  go on the run with Braga's character, who is also down on her luck. The
>  Universal Pictures project is slated to begin Oct. 15 in Toronto.
>  
>  [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>  
>  
>  
>  
> 
> "There is no reason Good can't triumph over Evil, if only angels will get
> organized along the lines of the Mafia." -Kurt Vonnegut, "A Man Without A
> Country"
>  
> -
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Re: [scifinoir2] Charisma Carpenter & Carmen Electra Rumored Apprentice Contestant

[Daryle]

Gabrielle Union on the Apprentice would be the highest rated show in the
history of television.


On 9/13/07 1:10 PM, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

>  
>  
>  
> 
> funny! Electra doesn't do anything for me, so I can breathe okay with just a
> little hitch in the respiration. Now, if you said Gabrielle Union and Kenya
> Moore were *also* going to  guest star--I'd be gasping like a fish on land!
> 
> -- Original message --
> From: Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]  >
> Deep breaths, Keith. Deep breaths...
> 
> Martin (wondering why he's sweating suddenly...)
> 
> "Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>  > wrote: Charisma Carpenter and
> Carmen Electra Rumored Apprentice Contestants
> Is the Buffy/Angel alum one of the contestants on the celebrity version
> of the series?
> by IGN Staff
> 
> September 12, 2007 - TV Guide is reporting that Buffy the Vampire Slayer
> and Angel alumni Charisma Carpenter will be one of the contestants on
> the upcoming celebrity edition of Donald Trump's The Apprentice,
> according to reliable sources. NBC hasn't officially announced any of
> the casting, but TV Guide also says there are rumors that Carmen Electra
> is another contestant.
> 
> The Apprenctice was not actually on NBC's 2007-2998 lineup originally,
> but got a renewal later in the summer. The hope is that the celebrity
> version can give a boost to the show, which has fallen off in the
> ratings. There isn't a set date yet for The Apprentice's return, but it
> will debut sometime mid-season.
> http://tv.ign.com/articles/819/819565p1.html
> 
> Yahoo! Groups Links
> 
> "There is no reason Good can't triumph over Evil, if only angels will get
> organized along the lines of the Mafia." -Kurt Vonnegut, "A Man Without A
> Country"
> 




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Re: [scifinoir2] OT: Six arrested, charged in woman's weeklong torture

[KeithBJohnson]

Jesus Christ (forgive me Lord!) Talk about a dysfunctional family! Mom helped 
kill an elderly woman? Junior went after mom with a machete? When the cop first 
said they tended to get in trouble on the weekends, I thought he meant the 
standard drunking arugments in the front yard, with a few clumsy off-balance 
punches thrown. This is waaay beyond that.

Thank the Lord Above that they're all going to jail--for life I hope!

-- Original message -- 
From: "Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
More on this story...
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=14307118&sc=emaf

/BIG CREEK, W.Va./ September 12, 2007, 11:23 p.m. ET · Authorities 
decided Wednesday not to pursue hate crime charges in the kidnapping and 
weeklong torture of a black woman, instead going after the suspects, who 
are white, on state charges that carry stiffer penalties.

While federal civil rights or state hate crime charges remain an option, 
a state kidnapping count that carries a sentence of up to life in prison 
will provide the best chance for successful prosecution, officials said.

"As a practical matter, sentenced to life, what else can be done?" U.S. 
Attorney Charles T. Miller told The Associated Press.

Six people face charges, including kidnapping, sexual assault and lying 
to police in the torture of Megan Williams, 20, at a remote hillside 
home in Big Creek.

State hate crime charges, which carry a sentence of 10 years, could come 
later, prosecutor Brian Abraham said. State sexual assault charges carry 
a penalty up to 35 years in prison.

The woman's captors forced her to eat rat droppings, choked her with a 
cable cord and stabbed her in the leg while calling her a racial slur, 
according to criminal complaints. They also poured hot water over her, 
made her drink from a toilet, and beat and sexually assaulted her during 
a span of about a week, the documents say.

Williams was not a random target, prosecutor Brian Abraham said 
Wednesday. She had a "social relationship" with one of the suspects, he 
said.

The Associated Press generally does not identify suspected victims of 
sexual assault, but Williams and her mother, Carmen Williams, agreed to 
release her name. Carmen Williams said she wanted people to know what 
her daughter had endured.

At one point, a suspect cut the woman's ankle with a knife and used the 
N-word in telling her she was victimized because she is black, according 
to the complaints.

It wasn't until an anonymous tip led Logan County sheriff's deputies to 
the property on Saturday that her ordeal ended, authorities said. She 
limped toward the deputies, her arms outstretched as she cried, "Help 
me," officials said.

Williams remained hospitalized Wednesday in Charleston. The hospital 
declined to release any information about her condition.

The victim had a previous relationship with Bobby Brewster, one of the 
six in custody, Abraham said. He was charged in July with domestic 
battery and assault after a domestic dispute involving the same woman.

"She obviously had some sort of social relationship," Abraham said. 
"That is based on the fact that she was present at his residence on a 
prior date."

The suspects have arrest records going back several years, according to 
records from Logan County Magistrate Court, and Abraham said was he 
familiar with all of them.

"Most of the charges are minor things," Abraham said. "Basically on 
weekends they get in trouble and by the middle of the week they make up 
with each other."

Since 1991, police have filed 108 criminal charges against the six.

Brewster's mother, Frankie Brewster, 49, faced the most serious charges 
among them. She was charged in 1994 with first-degree murder but pleaded 
guilty to manslaughter and wanton endangerment. She was released from 
prison in 2000 after serving five years in the death of an 84-year-old 
woman, court records show.

In Williams' case, Frankie Brewster is charged with kidnapping, sexual 
assault, malicious wounding and giving false information during a felony 
investigation.

Bobby Brewster, 24, also of Big Creek, is charged with kidnapping, 
sexual assault, malicious wounding and assault during the commission of 
a felony.

In March, Brewster was accused in criminal complaints of attacking his 
mother with a machete at her home, according to court records. The 
outcome of those charges — domestic assault, brandishing a deadly weapon 
and obstructing an officer — was not immediately clear.

Danny J. Combs, 20, of Harts, is charged with sexual assault and 
malicious wounding. Karen Burton, 46, of Chapmanville, was charged with 
malicious wounding, battery and assault during the commission of a felony.

Burton's daughter, Alisha Burton, 23, and George A. Messer, 27, both of 
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Re: [scifinoir2] A New V May Be Coming!!

[KeithBJohnson]

I really really hope this young girl fixation is over. I was worried when Joss 
Whedon was on the Wonder Woman project, and he too said "I'm going with a 
younger character than that traditionally shown in the comics". Got really 
nervous there. I'm all for the added drama getting a young, vulnerable girl can 
provide, but that's only one plot device of many.

What's the deal with Patrick Stewart?

-- Original message -- 
From: Daryle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
>From what I understand about "Bionic Woman", the choice of a younger actress
is integral to the basic story. It's not just a remake, but an update.

It's important to note that the most successful franchise on TV is Law &
Order, and generally, they like their women to be GROWN.

As for the other shows, I think the teen fixation (and let's be honest,
it's really a teen FEMALE fixation, which, at this point, is just creepy.)
is about over. It's clear to me that there have been some very old men in
decision making positions, who were pulling a Patrick Stewart ( see that
Extras episode) and just wanted to see young girls around. There's no other
explanation for it. The casting of Lois Lane in "Returns" was just silly.
Katie Holmes is now Mrs. Katherine Cruise, Hollywood wife, bad actress, and
mother. Whoever that girl is in "Transformers" is as much in high school as
*I* am. Even the kids on Disney Channel and Nick are growing up. I think
we've seen the end of an era.

On 9/12/07 11:08 AM, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> I'd add that she not be too young. I'm starting to tire of this fascination
> with very young and young-looking women. "Buffy" was cool, but now there seems
> to be a real push for the young, vulnerable, barely out of her teen years
> woman. Kate Bosworth as Lois Lane is a prime example. She looks and acts like
> such a little girl I was completely turned off by the character. The original
> actress who played Diana in "V" was 30 when the series aired. They need to get
> someone that old. Frankly, I dont' care what Hollywood thinks: "older" women
> work better in some roles, the same way men do. Frankly, a Diana who's well
> into her 40s would make more sense as the leader of an entire invasion force
> than some squeaky voiced girl barely into her 20s.
> 
> By the way, although the age difference isn't as bad, I have somewhat the same
> problem with "The Bionic Woman". Lindsay Wagner was 27 when the original
> series aired. The new star is just 23...
> 
> -- Original message --
> From: Daryle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> I do not claim to speak for all of the men in our group, but uhm...pouty and
> sexy in the red suit ? I¹m sorta FOR that. So long as it¹s a tight suit and
> she¹s not blonde...I¹m good. She¹s a bad guy. I just need Diana to look
> good and eat a mouse. It can be a mini-series for all I care, just please
> give the empty calories and give some up and coming actors some work. It¹s
> V. It won¹t be a Harlan Ellison script. Hell, not even a Warren Ellis
> script. It¹s gonna be ³A leader who is charismatic and powerful lies to the
> masses about his/her intent to take over a small country in the middle
> ea---er, planet. A filmmaker/journalist (hmm) discovers the truth and goes
> on a mission to expose the regime. He is captured. He escapes. The people
> make noise. But the people are American, and so the regime does what it
> wants anyway.² We¹ve not only SEEN this when it was done originally, we
> watched Karl Rove remix it in real life.
> 
> All I ask is that they not make Diana blonde, and they can count on me for
> at least three episodes.
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>> Everybody knows that the star of the V series is Diana. Cast her wrong, and
>> the show¹s useless.
>> 
>> Which is why it will be horrible. Diana will be pouty and sexy. She will walk
>> around and bark orders. She will be ugly in the face with fish lips. She will
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Re: [scifinoir2] Torchwood Premier Anyone?

[Martin]

Where the best stuff comes from, pal...

Astromancer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:   I had no 
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 > LMNAO, pal!!!
 >
 > Gymfig, I think you're referring to Daleks, the Ultimate Racists. In 
 > their eyes, anything that isn't Dalek deserves to be wiped out.
 >
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Re: [scifinoir2] Charisma Carpenter & Carmen Electra Rumored Apprentice Contestant

[KeithBJohnson]

funny! Electra doesn't do anything for me, so I can breathe okay with just a 
little hitch in the respiration. Now, if you said Gabrielle Union and Kenya 
Moore were *also* going to  guest star--I'd be gasping like a fish on land!

-- Original message -- 
From: Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
Deep breaths, Keith. Deep breaths...

Martin (wondering why he's sweating suddenly...)

"Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
Charisma Carpenter and Carmen Electra Rumored Apprentice Contestants
Is the Buffy/Angel alum one of the contestants on the celebrity version 
of the series?
by IGN Staff

September 12, 2007 - TV Guide is reporting that Buffy the Vampire Slayer 
and Angel alumni Charisma Carpenter will be one of the contestants on 
the upcoming celebrity edition of Donald Trump's The Apprentice, 
according to reliable sources. NBC hasn't officially announced any of 
the casting, but TV Guide also says there are rumors that Carmen Electra 
is another contestant.

The Apprenctice was not actually on NBC's 2007-2998 lineup originally, 
but got a renewal later in the summer. The hope is that the celebrity 
version can give a boost to the show, which has fallen off in the 
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Re: [scifinoir2] WHO SHOULD SET PRICE FOR ONLINE VIDEO DOWNLOADS?

[KeithBJohnson]

And this is how the big corporations keep driving people to illegal filesharing 
sites. Apple has managed to do what *no one* had done before: convince people 
to *pay* for stuff they actually can get free with some determined searching on 
the Net. (or simply sharing burned CDs and DVDs). We went through the same junk 
with the advent of the cassette tape and the VCR,and neither of those 
recordable media killed the entertainment industry's ability to make a profit.  
I find $0.99 for a song reasonable, and ditto for paying 2 - 4 bucks for TV 
programs or such. I still don't find iTunes to be the best interface out there, 
but Apple's done a great job of merging the iPod, iTunes on PC, and the buying 
system for songs and video.

It's working, people are making money, and consumers, again, are *paying* for 
stuff. Note that the folks can't say they're not making money, they just want 
to say *how much* they make. This is the same mindset that's behind the Net 
Neutrality issue, endangering the freedom of the Net itself.  and in a few 
years, when filesharing sites are more popular than ever, and people from 
Russian to TImbuktu pass around ways to subvert DRM and hardcoded anti-copying 
systems, the suits will be scratching their heads wondering why no one's paying 
their exhorbitant rates to download episodes of "Survivor" or Law and Order: 
Mars.

-- Original message -- 
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> As rumors continued to circulate that Apple is considering slashing the 
> price it charges for video downloads on its iTunes Music Store, News 
> Corp President and COO Peter Chernin has expressed his concern about the 
> reported cuts. In an interview with Reuters while on business in Poland, 
> Chernin said that he plans to discuss Apple's pricing structures with 
> the company but that at present he's not engaged in a dispute with Apple 
> -- unlike NBC Universal executives who have notified Apple that they 
> plan to remove all Universal movies and NBC television shows from the 
> iTunes website by the end of the year. "Right now we have a perfectly 
> good relationship with Apple," he said. "But let me say this, we're the 
> ones who should determine what the fair price for our product is, not 
> Apple." (An NBC Universal spokesman later agreed with Chernin "without 
> question.") Chernin's remarks appeared to raise new concerns about who 
> really does control the pricing of such related items as movie theater 
> tickets and DVDs (which are often sold as loss leaders by such warehouse 
> outlets as Wal-Mart and Costco). 
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Re: [scifinoir2] Torchwood Premier Anyone?

[Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)]

The Doctor almost destroyed them a few weeks ago by doing something to 
their genome, but one of them had merged with a human and wanted to 
evolve, so he did not destroy them.  Unfortunately the rest of the 
Darleks disagreed and mutinied.  However, some pigmen they created 
retaliated and now there is only one mad Darlek.

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Re: [scifinoir2] Torchwood Premier Anyone?

[Martin]

I dunno. Maybe if Jack could get one out its housing and snog with it for 
awhile...

Justin Mohareb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:   The 
Keystone Kops at Torchwood wouldn't last ten minutes against one Dalek.
 It would be... Ugly.
 
 Justin
 
 On 9/12/07, Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
 >
 >   Not *yet*. Give the writers a reason and a chance...
 >
 > Justin Mohareb <[EMAIL PROTECTED] >
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Re: [scifinoir2] Charisma Carpenter & Carmen Electra Rumored Apprentice Contestant

[Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)]

You know I posted this just for him  (smirk)

Martin wrote:
>
> Deep breaths, Keith. Deep breaths...
>
> Martin (wondering why he's sweating suddenly...)
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> "Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> aladvantage. com > wrote: 
> Charisma Carpenter and Carmen Electra Rumored Apprentice Contestants
> Is the Buffy/Angel alum one of the contestants on the celebrity version
> of the series?
> by IGN Staff
>
> September 12, 2007 - TV Guide is reporting that Buffy the Vampire Slayer
> and Angel alumni Charisma Carpenter will be one of the contestants on
> the upcoming celebrity edition of Donald Trump's The Apprentice,
> according to reliable sources. NBC hasn't officially announced any of
> the casting, but TV Guide also says there are rumors that Carmen Electra
> is another contestant.
>
> The Apprenctice was not actually on NBC's 2007-2998 lineup originally,
> but got a renewal later in the summer. The hope is that the celebrity
> version can give a boost to the show, which has fallen off in the
> ratings. There isn't a set date yet for The Apprentice's return, but it
> will debut sometime mid-season.
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Re: [scifinoir2] Torchwood Premier Anyone?

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Re: [scifinoir2] Forest Whitaker To Do 'MAMBO'

[Martin]

The horror...the *horror*...

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  Just please, please 
don't let Michael Bay direct, or this will devolve quickly from a pointed 
satirical comment on society into a non-stop chase full of explosions and 
speeding vehicles on whatever passes for a highway in the future.
 
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 From: "Brent Wodehouse" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
 http://www.blackflix.com/coming_soon.html
 
 FOREST WHITAKER TO DO 'MAMBO'
 
 September
 
 Forest Whitaker has landed a role opposite Jude Law and Brazilian actress
 Alice Braga in the futuristic thriller "Repossession Mambo." Based on the
 novel by Eric Garcia, the film is set in the near future when artificial
 organs can be bought on credit with one catch - if the buyer defaults on
 payment, it will result in a fatal repossession. Law's character - himself
 "made up of artificial organs' - is a repo man who reclaims organs when
 their recipients cannot make the payments. When he struggles to pay off
 his new heart, he becomes one of the people he used to hunt down and must
 go on the run with Braga's character, who is also down on her luck. The
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Re: [scifinoir2] Maria Bello to star in "Mummy 3"

[Martin]

Money talks, Daryle.

Daryle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:   
 What ever happened to Jet Li retiring? Wasn¹t Unleashed or something billed
 as ³Jet Li¹s final action movie²? Don¹t get me wrong, I love Jet Li¹s work,
 and I understand the need to do movies like ³War²  to  balance out his work
 in Chinese (gotta keep the brand relevant and all) but is there nobody else
 out there  that knows multiple styles? It  used to  be when Jet  Li signed
 on to  do your movie it was a special event. Now it seems he¹s working more
 than Jackie is.
 
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 >  
 >  
 >  
 > 
 > (grinning at the thought of those three on the same screen...)
 > 
 > [EMAIL PROTECTED]   wrote: Yeah,
 > all we need are Chow Yun Fat, Jackie Chan, and Michelle Yeoh, and we can
 > dispense with Brendan Frasier (who I never thought was all the interesting as
 > the hero anyway).
 > 
 > -- Original message --
 > From: Astromancer
 > LOL@ Jet LiWhoa, I just finished reading this...Jet Li, huh?
 > 
 > [EMAIL PROTECTED]   wrote: Huh, i
 > didn't know there was going to be a third Mummy flick. I thought the second
 > was only fair. Maybe with Jet Li it'll be cool. I'm skeptical...
 > 
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 > 
 > http://www.scifi.com/scifiwire/index.php?category=3&id=44010
 > 
 > 
 > Bello Takes Over In Mummy 3
 > 
 > Maria Bello, who co-stars in the upcoming sequel film The Mummy: Tomb of the
 > Dragon Emperor, told SCI FI Wire that she plays a kick-ass version of the
 > character originated by Rachel Weisz.
 > 
 > Bello, who won wide acclaim for 2005's A History of Violence, spoke at the
 > Toronto International Film Festival and added that she dyed her normally 
 > blond
 > hair auburn for the sequel. "Yeah, it's for a film role. It's for Mummy 3, 
 > and
 > I love it," she said.
 > 
 > Bello, who took time off from filming in Montreal to appear at the film
 > festival to promote The Jane Austen Book Club, takes over the role of Evelyn
 > Carnahan from Weisz, who played the character in the first two Mummy movies
 > but bowed out of the third.
 > 
 > "She has the same name, but she's a very different character than Rachel
 > played," Bello said in an interview. "She's a bad-ass action chick. I had to
 > train a lot. I had to do wushu, a martial-art form, some kickboxing,
 > swordfighting, rifle training for a couple of months before we even started
 > shooting." Bello added: "It's the role of my dreams. It is just a blast."
 > 
 > Bello will soon join co-stars Brendan Fraser and Jet Li for two months of
 > shooting in China.
 > 
 > Bello said that after a few weeks of rehearsal, she sustained a black eye
 > after getting butted by a Winchester rifle, but added that she's fine now.
 > "I'm looking forward to the doll, too, though," she said cryptically. The
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Re: [scifinoir2] Re: OT: Six arrested, charged in woman's weeklong torture

[Martin]

As long as it's in general population.

g123curious <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  Thanks. 
I hadn't heard about this. This reminds me of the group of 
 thugs in Jasper Texas that chained a black man to the back of a 
 pickup truck and dragged him around town until his body came apart. 
 Lifetime in jail sounds good to me.
 
 George
 
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 > Has anyone else caught more than a *blurb* about this in the 
 mainstream media? I think I saw a thirty-second clip on a nationally-
 syndicated morning show. I hate to be the one to play the race card 
 (because, IMO, it makes you the racist), but brand me. Had this been 
 a pretty blonde girl with blue eyes...
 > 
 > "Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
 wrote:   More on this story...
 >  http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?
 storyId=14307118&sc=emaf
 >  
 > /BIG CREEK, W.Va./ September 12, 2007, 11:23 p.m. ET
 > Authorities decided Wednesday not to pursue hate crime charges in
 > the kidnapping and weeklong torture of a black woman, instead going
 > after the suspects, who are white, on state charges that carry
 > stiffer penalties.
 >  
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 > option, a state kidnapping count that carries a sentence of up to
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Re: [scifinoir2] Torchwood Premier Anyone?

[Martin]

I believe you have to concentrate your fire on their eyestalks.

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Re: [scifinoir2] Re: OT: Six arrested, charged in woman's weeklong torture

[Martin]

g, I doubt that. I remember an old adage from my childhood daze, when I worked 
on my HS newspaper.

"If it bleeds, it leads."

g123curious <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:   It'll be 
interesting to see if this gets more coverage in the news 
 media than the dogs M. Vick and friends killed. 9/11 coverage may 
 have pushed this story aside earlier this week.
 
 George
 
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 >
 > Has anyone else caught more than a *blurb* about this in the 
 mainstream media? I think I saw a thirty-second clip on a nationally-
 syndicated morning show. I hate to be the one to play the race card 
 (because, IMO, it makes you the racist), but brand me. Had this been 
 a pretty blonde girl with blue eyes...
 > 
 > "Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
 wrote:   More on this story...
 >  http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?
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 >  
 > /BIG CREEK, W.Va./ September 12, 2007, 11:23 p.m. ET ·
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 > the kidnapping and weeklong torture of a black woman, instead going
 > after the suspects, who are white, on state charges that carry
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Re: [scifinoir2] Forest Whitaker To Do 'MAMBO'

[KeithBJohnson]

Just please, please don't let Michael Bay direct, or this will devolve quickly 
from a pointed satirical comment on society into a non-stop chase full of 
explosions and speeding vehicles on whatever passes for a highway in the future.

-- Original message -- 
From: "Brent Wodehouse" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
http://www.blackflix.com/coming_soon.html

FOREST WHITAKER TO DO 'MAMBO'

September

Forest Whitaker has landed a role opposite Jude Law and Brazilian actress
Alice Braga in the futuristic thriller "Repossession Mambo." Based on the
novel by Eric Garcia, the film is set in the near future when artificial
organs can be bought on credit with one catch - if the buyer defaults on
payment, it will result in a fatal repossession. Law's character - himself
"made up of artificial organs' - is a repo man who reclaims organs when
their recipients cannot make the payments. When he struggles to pay off
his new heart, he becomes one of the people he used to hunt down and must
go on the run with Braga's character, who is also down on her luck. The
Universal Pictures project is slated to begin Oct. 15 in Toronto.


 

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Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Homeland Security Adviser Dismisses bin Laden as "virtually impotent"

[KeithBJohnson]

truer words were ne'er spoken

-- Original message -- 
From: "g123curious" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
When one is truly incompetent and knows it, sometimes the only 
protection from getting fired (or impeached) is a thin blue line (or 
party-loyalists you can easily hire and blame later).

--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> Unfortunately, true. He reminds me of the Thin Blue Line with the 
police. I always am amazed at how some cops feel that other cops 
need to back them up when they do wrong. I get the whole idea of 
trust, being able to put your life in your partner's hands if need 
be. But sometimes cops forget that their primary goal is to serve the 
*people*, and that a cop who's violated our trust isn't worthy of 
protection. Same with Bush. He and his gang are our servants, not the 
other way around, and he should be surrounded by people who remind 
him to do what's right by us, not by his narrow definition of right 
and wrong.
> 
> -- Original message -- 
> From: "g123curious" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> In 6+ years, what I see is W doesn't hire deep thinkers or the 
> brightest folks. W hires party-loyalists who are either connected 
or 
> have given money to said campaign... folks who "drank and continue 
to 
> drink the cool-ade." People who follow the party ideology blindly 
> until they get impaled on a fence while wondering, 'where did that 
> fence come from?' Only then do they change course, and only then 
> reluctantly while blaming the Dems, Clinton, and everyone else.
> 
> George
> 
> --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, KeithBJohnson@ wrote:
>
> Jesus Christ, where does Bush keep finding these idiots?? I don't 
> care if bin Laden was *only* capable of putting forth a few tapes a 
> year, he's still an ideological danger. Don't care if he's tied to
> a dialysis machine 24/7, if he can't set foot outside his cave (or 
> compound, more likely), he can still rally the faithful who
> subscribe to his beliefs. Doesn't this idiot lady get the root
> causes of 9/11 and so much of the hatred America faces in the
> world? Does she not get that pure military might is the least of
> the obstacles we face in the world. Absolutely amazing she can make
> such a dumba** statement 
> 
> *
> 
>> Homeland Security Adviser Dismisses bin Laden as "virtually 
>> impotent"
>>
>> WASHINGTON - Seemingly taunting Osama bin Laden, President Bush's 
>> homeland security adviser said Sunday the fugitive al-Qaida leader 
>> is "virtually impotent" beyond his ability to hide away and spread 
>> anti-American propaganda.
>>
>> The provocative characterization came just days after bin Laden 
>> attracted international attention with the release of a video in 
>> which he ridicules President Bush about the Iraq war and reminds
>> the world that he not been captured.
>>
>> Ahead of the sixth anniversary of the Sept. 11 terrorist strikes, 
>> White House aide Frances Fragos Townsend made a clear attempt to 
>> diminish the influence _ or the perception _ of the man who 
>> masterminded those attacks.
>>
>> "This is about the best he can do," Townsend said of bin 
>> Laden. "This is a man on a run, from a cave, who's virtually
>> impotent other than these tapes."
> 
> 


 

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Re: [scifinoir2] Torchwood Premier Anyone?

[Gymfig]

I guess I should go to Doctor Who.com to find out their history. How can they 
be destroyed?



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Re: [scifinoir2] Torchwood Premier Anyone?

[Gymfig]

 
In a message dated 9/13/2007 12:46:34 AM Eastern Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

I had no idea what he was talking about...I just threw it out there

He is a she. 



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[scifinoir2] Re: OT: Six arrested, charged in woman's weeklong torture

[g123curious]

It'll be interesting to see if this gets more coverage in the news 
media than the dogs M. Vick and friends killed. 9/11 coverage may 
have pushed this story aside earlier this week.

George

--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Has anyone else caught more than a *blurb* about this in the 
mainstream media? I think I saw a thirty-second clip on a nationally-
syndicated morning show. I hate to be the one to play the race card 
(because, IMO, it makes you the racist), but brand me. Had this been 
a pretty blonde girl with blue eyes...
> 
> "Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:   More on this story...
>  http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?
storyId=14307118&sc=emaf
>  
> /BIG CREEK, W.Va./ September 12, 2007, 11:23 p.m. ET ·
> Authorities decided Wednesday not to pursue hate crime charges in
> the kidnapping and weeklong torture of a black woman, instead going
> after the suspects, who are white, on state charges that carry
> stiffer penalties.

Re: [scifinoir2] Torchwood Premier Anyone?

[Gymfig]

 
In a message dated 9/12/2007 7:06:54 PM Eastern Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Gymfig, I think you're referring to Daleks, the Ultimate Racists. In their
> eyes, anything that isn't Dalek deserves to be wiped out

Yes, that is what I am talking about. 



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[scifinoir2] Re: OT: Six arrested, charged in woman's weeklong torture

[g123curious]

Thanks. I hadn't heard about this. This reminds me of the group of 
thugs in Jasper Texas that chained a black man to the back of a 
pickup truck and dragged him around town until his body came apart. 
Lifetime in jail sounds good to me.

George

--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Has anyone else caught more than a *blurb* about this in the 
mainstream media? I think I saw a thirty-second clip on a nationally-
syndicated morning show. I hate to be the one to play the race card 
(because, IMO, it makes you the racist), but brand me. Had this been 
a pretty blonde girl with blue eyes...
> 
> "Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:   More on this story...
>  http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?
storyId=14307118&sc=emaf
>  
> /BIG CREEK, W.Va./ September 12, 2007, 11:23 p.m. ET
> Authorities decided Wednesday not to pursue hate crime charges in
> the kidnapping and weeklong torture of a black woman, instead going
> after the suspects, who are white, on state charges that carry
> stiffer penalties.
>  
> While federal civil rights or state hate crime charges remain an
> option, a state kidnapping count that carries a sentence of up to
> life in prison will provide the best chance for successful
> prosecution, officials said.

Re: [scifinoir2] Maria Bello to star in "Mummy 3"

[Daryle]

What ever happened to Jet Li retiring? Wasn¹t Unleashed or something billed
as ³Jet Li¹s final action movie²? Don¹t get me wrong, I love Jet Li¹s work,
and I understand the need to do movies like ³War²  to  balance out his work
in Chinese (gotta keep the brand relevant and all) but is there nobody else
out there  that knows multiple styles? It  used to  be when Jet  Li signed
on to  do your movie it was a special event. Now it seems he¹s working more
than Jackie is.



On 9/13/07 8:30 AM, "Martin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>  
>  
>  
> 
> (grinning at the thought of those three on the same screen...)
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]   wrote: Yeah,
> all we need are Chow Yun Fat, Jackie Chan, and Michelle Yeoh, and we can
> dispense with Brendan Frasier (who I never thought was all the interesting as
> the hero anyway).
> 
> -- Original message --
> From: Astromancer
> LOL@ Jet LiWhoa, I just finished reading this...Jet Li, huh?
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]   wrote: Huh, i
> didn't know there was going to be a third Mummy flick. I thought the second
> was only fair. Maybe with Jet Li it'll be cool. I'm skeptical...
> 
> **
> 
> http://www.scifi.com/scifiwire/index.php?category=3&id=44010
> 
> 
> Bello Takes Over In Mummy 3
> 
> Maria Bello, who co-stars in the upcoming sequel film The Mummy: Tomb of the
> Dragon Emperor, told SCI FI Wire that she plays a kick-ass version of the
> character originated by Rachel Weisz.
> 
> Bello, who won wide acclaim for 2005's A History of Violence, spoke at the
> Toronto International Film Festival and added that she dyed her normally blond
> hair auburn for the sequel. "Yeah, it's for a film role. It's for Mummy 3, and
> I love it," she said.
> 
> Bello, who took time off from filming in Montreal to appear at the film
> festival to promote The Jane Austen Book Club, takes over the role of Evelyn
> Carnahan from Weisz, who played the character in the first two Mummy movies
> but bowed out of the third.
> 
> "She has the same name, but she's a very different character than Rachel
> played," Bello said in an interview. "She's a bad-ass action chick. I had to
> train a lot. I had to do wushu, a martial-art form, some kickboxing,
> swordfighting, rifle training for a couple of months before we even started
> shooting." Bello added: "It's the role of my dreams. It is just a blast."
> 
> Bello will soon join co-stars Brendan Fraser and Jet Li for two months of
> shooting in China.
> 
> Bello said that after a few weeks of rehearsal, she sustained a black eye
> after getting butted by a Winchester rifle, but added that she's fine now.
> "I'm looking forward to the doll, too, though," she said cryptically. The
> Mummy: Tomb of the Dragon Emperor opens Aug. 1, 2008.
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Re: [scifinoir2] A New V May Be Coming!!

[Martin]

NOW I remember...

I'll be over in the corner, shivering uncontrollably. Pardon the screaming sure 
to follow.

Astromancer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:   You 
really, really don't want to know, but(having flashbacks of Star Crash...) 
The ship is climbing out of Earth orbit and there's a bomb ticking off that 
would destroy the planet...No one knows how to stop it when the little half 
alien girl walks over to the control panel, grabs it, glows a bit and...all 
over, the bomb is defused...I think my explanation sounds a lot better than it 
actually was, but my memory is a bit fuzzy from 1984 also...
 
 Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  Don't remember that, pal. How did 
it end?
 
 Astromancer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: No, the ending to the last miniseries 
was a bad omen...
 
 Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: The TV series never should've been done. 
Sooner a sequel on the mini-series.
 
 Astromancer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: My complaint about the TV series is 
that they had pretty people and it sucked...
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The first Diane was cool. She was charming and 
devious. I don't want a Diana 
 that looks like the Vulcan chick from Enterprise. She can't act, She has fish 
 lips and no personality. I don't want a remake of Battlestar or Xena . I want 
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Re: [scifinoir2] Maria Bello to star in "Mummy 3"

[Martin]

(grinning at the thought of those three on the same screen...)

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeah, all we need are Chow Yun Fat, Jackie Chan, and 
Michelle Yeoh, and we can dispense with Brendan Frasier (who I never thought 
was all the interesting as the hero anyway).

-- Original message -- 
From: Astromancer  
LOL@ Jet LiWhoa, I just finished reading this...Jet Li, huh?

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Huh, i didn't know there was going to be a third Mummy 
flick. I thought the second was only fair. Maybe with Jet Li it'll be cool. I'm 
skeptical...

**

http://www.scifi.com/scifiwire/index.php?category=3&id=44010

Bello Takes Over In Mummy 3

Maria Bello, who co-stars in the upcoming sequel film The Mummy: Tomb of the 
Dragon Emperor, told SCI FI Wire that she plays a kick-ass version of the 
character originated by Rachel Weisz. 

Bello, who won wide acclaim for 2005's A History of Violence, spoke at the 
Toronto International Film Festival and added that she dyed her normally blond 
hair auburn for the sequel. "Yeah, it's for a film role. It's for Mummy 3, and 
I love it," she said. 

Bello, who took time off from filming in Montreal to appear at the film 
festival to promote The Jane Austen Book Club, takes over the role of Evelyn 
Carnahan from Weisz, who played the character in the first two Mummy movies but 
bowed out of the third. 

"She has the same name, but she's a very different character than Rachel 
played," Bello said in an interview. "She's a bad-ass action chick. I had to 
train a lot. I had to do wushu, a martial-art form, some kickboxing, 
swordfighting, rifle training for a couple of months before we even started 
shooting." Bello added: "It's the role of my dreams. It is just a blast." 

Bello will soon join co-stars Brendan Fraser and Jet Li for two months of 
shooting in China. 

Bello said that after a few weeks of rehearsal, she sustained a black eye after 
getting butted by a Winchester rifle, but added that she's fine now. "I'm 
looking forward to the doll, too, though," she said cryptically. The Mummy: 
Tomb of the Dragon Emperor opens Aug. 1, 2008. 

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Re: [scifinoir2] Homeland Security Adviser Dismisses bin Laden as "virtually impotent"

[Martin]

Oh, I've been asked numerous times when I'm moving back to Moskova and eat my 
borscht...

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Watch it now! MoveOn.org and others who've made that 
same charge have been called traitors! :)

-- Original message -- 
From: Martin  
His speech wasn't meant to. Petraeus is Bush's creature. Bush wants no definite 
timeline, so Petraeus won't provide a reason to set one, no matter how much 
evidence requiring one is extant.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I agree to an extent. The problem is that fixing a 
country like this could take a decade or more, and no one in the administration 
wants to discuss real time. They keep dropping stuff like "stay the course", 
"let Iraq stand up so we can stand down", etc. Generalities can go on for 
generations. Petraeus's speech didn't much help pin down a timeline.

-- Original message -- 
From: Astromancer 
Unfortunately, we'll do more damage if we leave Iraq now...We made a mess over 
there...if we leave now, we're asking for other countries we've made enemies of 
to screw with us...I know it doesn't make sense, but for some reason, when we 
pull out of a fight, people tend to think of us as wimps...very dumb getting 
involved in the first place, very dumb to walk away now...

Bosco Bosco wrote: Keith

Isn't it possible that if you minimize the threat of Bin Laden in the
minds of the people then you can justify increased costs of doing
other things besides looking for him, like the Iraq war?

It's some kind of Orwellian conservo mind game. I'd lay money there
were folks behind her telling her to say it for reasons just like
that.

B
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Jesus Christ, where does Bush keep finding these idiots?? I don't
> care if bin Laden was *only* capable of putting forth a few tapes a
> year, he's still an ideological danger. Don't care if he's tied to
> a dialysis machine 24/7, if he can't set foot outside his cave (or
> compound, more likely), he can still rally the faithful who
> subscribe to his beliefs. Doesn't this idiot lady get the root
> causes of 9/11 and so much of the hatred America faces in the
> world? Does she not get that pure military might is the least of
> the obstacles we face in the world. Absolutely amazing she can make
> such a dumba** statement 
> 
> *
> 
> Homeland Security Adviser Dismisses bin Laden as "virtually
> impotent"
> WASHINGTON - Seemingly taunting Osama bin Laden, President Bush's
> homeland security adviser said Sunday the fugitive al-Qaida leader
> is "virtually impotent" beyond his ability to hide away and spread
> anti-American propaganda.
> The provocative characterization came just days after bin Laden
> attracted international attention with the release of a video in
> which he ridicules President Bush about the Iraq war and reminds
> the world that he not been captured.
> Ahead of the sixth anniversary of the Sept. 11 terrorist strikes,
> White House aide Frances Fragos Townsend made a clear attempt to
> diminish the influence _ or the perception _ of the man who
> masterminded those attacks.
> "This is about the best he can do," Townsend said of bin Laden.
> "This is a man on a run, from a cave, who's virtually impotent
> other than these tapes."
> In appearance on two Sunday talk shows, she used the "virtually
> impotent" reference both times, suggesting the language was chosen
> with careful purpose.
> "We know that al-Qaida is still determined to attack, and we take
> it seriously," Townsend said. "But this tape appears to be nothing
> more than threats. It's propaganda on their part."
> Townsend was considerably more direct than even Bush in rebuking
> bin Laden. The president responded to bin Laden's tape last week by
> saying it was a reminder that the world is dangerous and that Iraq
> is part of the war against extremists. He never identified bin
> Laden by name.
> The consensus of the nation's top intelligence analysts is that bin
> Laden's terrorist network is anything but impotent.
> Terrorism experts say the network is regrouping in the lawless
> Pakistan-Afghanistan border region. The latest National
> Intelligence Estimate says al-Qaida is growing in strength,
> intensifying its efforts to put operatives in the United States and
> plotting against U.S. targets that will cause massive casualties.
> The U.S. is in a "heightened threat environment" and al-Qaida is
> the most serious threat, the analysts found.
> The tape was the first time bin Laden had appeared in a new video
> since 2004. In the recording, bin Laden tells Americans they should
> convert to Islam if they want the war in Iraq to end. He makes no
> overt threats and does not directly call for attacks.
> "While he may be physically contained, his influence is not bounded
> by any physical barriers," said Thomas Sanderson, an authority on
> terrorism at the Center for Strategic and International Studies.
> "Obviously, in a sense, it does not matter tha

Re: [scifinoir2] OT: Six arrested, charged in woman's weeklong torture

[Martin]

Has anyone else caught more than a *blurb* about this in the mainstream media? 
I think I saw a thirty-second clip on a nationally-syndicated morning show. I 
hate to be the one to play the race card (because, IMO, it makes you the 
racist), but brand me. Had this been a pretty blonde girl with blue eyes...

"Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  
 More on this story...
 http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=14307118&sc=emaf
 
 /BIG CREEK, W.Va./ September 12, 2007, 11:23 p.m. ET · Authorities 
 decided Wednesday not to pursue hate crime charges in the kidnapping and 
 weeklong torture of a black woman, instead going after the suspects, who 
 are white, on state charges that carry stiffer penalties.
 
 While federal civil rights or state hate crime charges remain an option, 
 a state kidnapping count that carries a sentence of up to life in prison 
 will provide the best chance for successful prosecution, officials said.
 
 "As a practical matter, sentenced to life, what else can be done?" U.S. 
 Attorney Charles T. Miller told The Associated Press.
 
 Six people face charges, including kidnapping, sexual assault and lying 
 to police in the torture of Megan Williams, 20, at a remote hillside 
 home in Big Creek.
 
 State hate crime charges, which carry a sentence of 10 years, could come 
 later, prosecutor Brian Abraham said. State sexual assault charges carry 
 a penalty up to 35 years in prison.
 
 The woman's captors forced her to eat rat droppings, choked her with a 
 cable cord and stabbed her in the leg while calling her a racial slur, 
 according to criminal complaints. They also poured hot water over her, 
 made her drink from a toilet, and beat and sexually assaulted her during 
 a span of about a week, the documents say.
 
 Williams was not a random target, prosecutor Brian Abraham said 
 Wednesday. She had a "social relationship" with one of the suspects, he 
 said.
 
 The Associated Press generally does not identify suspected victims of 
 sexual assault, but Williams and her mother, Carmen Williams, agreed to 
 release her name. Carmen Williams said she wanted people to know what 
 her daughter had endured.
 
 At one point, a suspect cut the woman's ankle with a knife and used the 
 N-word in telling her she was victimized because she is black, according 
 to the complaints.
 
 It wasn't until an anonymous tip led Logan County sheriff's deputies to 
 the property on Saturday that her ordeal ended, authorities said. She 
 limped toward the deputies, her arms outstretched as she cried, "Help 
 me," officials said.
 
 Williams remained hospitalized Wednesday in Charleston. The hospital 
 declined to release any information about her condition.
 
 The victim had a previous relationship with Bobby Brewster, one of the 
 six in custody, Abraham said. He was charged in July with domestic 
 battery and assault after a domestic dispute involving the same woman.
 
 "She obviously had some sort of social relationship," Abraham said. 
 "That is based on the fact that she was present at his residence on a 
 prior date."
 
 The suspects have arrest records going back several years, according to 
 records from Logan County Magistrate Court, and Abraham said was he 
 familiar with all of them.
 
 "Most of the charges are minor things," Abraham said. "Basically on 
 weekends they get in trouble and by the middle of the week they make up 
 with each other."
 
 Since 1991, police have filed 108 criminal charges against the six.
 
 Brewster's mother, Frankie Brewster, 49, faced the most serious charges 
 among them. She was charged in 1994 with first-degree murder but pleaded 
 guilty to manslaughter and wanton endangerment. She was released from 
 prison in 2000 after serving five years in the death of an 84-year-old 
 woman, court records show.
 
 In Williams' case, Frankie Brewster is charged with kidnapping, sexual 
 assault, malicious wounding and giving false information during a felony 
 investigation.
 
 Bobby Brewster, 24, also of Big Creek, is charged with kidnapping, 
 sexual assault, malicious wounding and assault during the commission of 
 a felony.
 
 In March, Brewster was accused in criminal complaints of attacking his 
 mother with a machete at her home, according to court records. The 
 outcome of those charges — domestic assault, brandishing a deadly weapon 
 and obstructing an officer — was not immediately clear.
 
 Danny J. Combs, 20, of Harts, is charged with sexual assault and 
 malicious wounding. Karen Burton, 46, of Chapmanville, was charged with 
 malicious wounding, battery and assault during the commission of a felony.
 
 Burton's daughter, Alisha Burton, 23, and George A. Messer, 27, both of 
 Chapmanville, are charged with assault during the commission of a felony 
 and battery. She previously faced charges of assault during the 
 commission of a felony and battery; in May, she was accused of striki

Re: [scifinoir2] Charisma Carpenter & Carmen Electra Rumored Apprentice Contestant

[Martin]

Deep breaths, Keith. Deep breaths...

Martin (wondering why he's sweating suddenly...)

"Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
Charisma Carpenter and Carmen Electra Rumored Apprentice Contestants
Is the Buffy/Angel alum one of the contestants on the celebrity version 
of the series?
by IGN Staff

September 12, 2007 - TV Guide is reporting that Buffy the Vampire Slayer 
and Angel alumni Charisma Carpenter will be one of the contestants on 
the upcoming celebrity edition of Donald Trump's The Apprentice, 
according to reliable sources. NBC hasn't officially announced any of 
the casting, but TV Guide also says there are rumors that Carmen Electra 
is another contestant.

The Apprenctice was not actually on NBC's 2007-2998 lineup originally, 
but got a renewal later in the summer. The hope is that the celebrity 
version can give a boost to the show, which has fallen off in the 
ratings. There isn't a set date yet for The Apprentice's return, but it 
will debut sometime mid-season.
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[scifinoir2] Charisma Carpenter & Carmen Electra Rumored Apprentice Contestant

[Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)]

Charisma Carpenter and Carmen Electra Rumored Apprentice Contestants
Is the Buffy/Angel alum one of the contestants on the celebrity version 
of the series?
by IGN Staff

September 12, 2007 - TV Guide is reporting that Buffy the Vampire Slayer 
and Angel alumni Charisma Carpenter will be one of the contestants on 
the upcoming celebrity edition of Donald Trump's The Apprentice, 
according to reliable sources. NBC hasn't officially announced any of 
the casting, but TV Guide also says there are rumors that Carmen Electra 
is another contestant.

The Apprenctice was not actually on NBC's 2007-2998 lineup originally, 
but got a renewal later in the summer. The hope is that the celebrity 
version can give a boost to the show, which has fallen off in the 
ratings. There isn't a set date yet for The Apprentice's return, but it 
will debut sometime mid-season.
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[scifinoir2] Potter Is Biggest Franchise Ever

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Potter Is Biggest Franchise Ever

The success of Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix has made Warner 
Brothers' boy-wizard films the top-grossing franchise in movie history, 
the studio announced.

The combined worldwide box-office gross for the five Harry Potter films 
to date is more than $4.47 billion, surpassing the box-office totals of 
all 22 James Bond films and the six Star Wars movies, the studio said on 
Sept. 10.

Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix is still going strong in 
theaters around the globe, and two more films are in the works: Harry 
Potter and the Half-Blood Prince and Harry Potter and the Deathly 
Hallows, based on J.K. Rowling's beloved books.

All five of the Potter films so far have found themselves among the 20 
largest-grossing box-office hits of all time.

Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince will open on Nov. 21, 2008. The 
seventh and final film, Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows, is planned 
for a 2010 release.
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[scifinoir2] Jericho Spoilers Revealed

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Jericho Spoilers Revealed
http://www.scifi.com/scifiwire/index.php?category=0&id=44074
The producers of CBS' post-apocalyptic series Jericho invited SCI FI 
Wire to tour the set of the show, which is currently in production, and 
offered a few spoilers about the upcoming second season.

Among the new buildings on the freshly rebuilt main street in the Van 
Nuys suburb of Los Angeles was a cement facade that housed the 
headquarters of Jennings and Rall, a multinational organization that 
sets up shop in the town in season two.

There was also evidence of a continued military presence following its 
arrival in the season finale to suppress the hostilities between Jericho 
and the neighboring town of New Bern.

John Steinberg, co-creator and producer of the show, said in interviews 
that the seven episodes of the season will focus primarily on the 
introduction of these new outside elements to the town of Jericho and 
how its citizens respond to them.

"The first season was about that sort of invisible force, the 
government, the law, the financial system, all those things, 
disappearing, and living in a vacuum," Steinberg said in an interview on 
the set. "And season two is about what happens when something comes back 
to replace that vacuum, and it's not what you remembered being there 
when you left. And so that's kind of the big arc of it, and how we 
respond to that and resist it or learn to deal with it."

After CBS canceled Jericho in May, fans rallied in support of the show 
and sent in thousands of boxes of nuts (inspired by a line of dialogue) 
to the network executives in an effort to convince them to reconsider. 
The campaign was successful, and less than three weeks later CBS 
president Nina Tassler announced that the show would be receiving a 
seven-episode order for midseason.

Steinberg said that because of the abbreviated season, many of the 
unresolved threads from the finale will be wrapped up swiftly in the 
season premiere. But the repercussions of those events will be felt for 
some time to come.

"The practical element of it is going to get resolved pretty quickly," 
he said. "But the first season is going to bleed story all the way 
through the second season, especially that finale. It's stuff that they 
went through way too much, and it was way too terrible for them to get 
over it in seven episodes. So it's all in there."

Before the cancellation announcement, the writing staff had already 
mapped out a 22-episode season. But Steinberg said that they managed to 
condense it down by approaching the seven episodes as an extended movie 
that will lead into a potential full third year.

"In changing it from 22 to seven episodes, we sort of broke it like a 
movie," Steinberg said. "And so I think we want to find the best end of 
this movie that we can come up with. And I think we have a pretty good 
one. ... You're going to feel satisfied, but you're also going to know 
that there's a lot more story coming down the road and that it's not 
tied up in a bow in any way."

Jericho does not yet have an air date, but is expected to return 
sometime late this year or in early 2008.


 
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[scifinoir2] WHO SHOULD SET PRICE FOR ONLINE VIDEO DOWNLOADS?

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As rumors continued to circulate that Apple is considering slashing the 
price it charges for video downloads on its iTunes Music Store, News 
Corp President and COO Peter Chernin has expressed his concern about the 
reported cuts. In an interview with Reuters while on business in Poland, 
Chernin said that he plans to discuss Apple's pricing structures with 
the company but that at present he's not engaged in a dispute with Apple 
-- unlike NBC Universal executives who have notified Apple that they 
plan to remove all Universal movies and NBC television shows from the 
iTunes website by the end of the year. "Right now we have a perfectly 
good relationship with Apple," he said. "But let me say this, we're the 
ones who should determine what the fair price for our product is, not 
Apple." (An NBC Universal spokesman later agreed with Chernin "without 
question.") Chernin's remarks appeared to raise new concerns about who 
really does control the pricing of such related items as movie theater 
tickets and DVDs (which are often sold as loss leaders by such warehouse 
outlets as Wal-Mart and Costco).
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