Re: [scifinoir2] John McCain emphatically denies romantic relationship
Seconding that! [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: you said it! -- Original message -- From: Bosco Bosco if you'd like some more insight into the culpability of the Times, the Post and other bastions of the liberal media, check out Manufacturing Consent: Noam Chomsky and the Media. That the left's foremost thinker is essentially unknown in his own country underscores the idea that the various liberal media outlets are as liberal as the multi-national corporations that own them. If that's not enough evidence, try to find an article by Greg Palast published in a paper in the US. Bosco --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Martin, you read my mind!! I was just stomping around the house today saying the very same thing. The Times released a statement today saying in effect, we don't ever publish anything unless we've checked the facts, and i immediately said, oh, like you fact-checked the *dozens* of articles you gave front page space to supporting Bush's dumb ass lies?. I've listened to Bill Moyers' Buying the War program half a dozen times, and the Times was as culpabe, as criminally, unforgivably *wrong*, as everyone else. I can honestly say I don't when my respect for them and many other supposedly free-thinking outlets will ever be restored. Guess it's Tavis Smiley and Democracy Now and McClatchy for me! -- Original message -- From: Martin One thing that strikes me as funny in this is that the right-wingers are all decrying this, painting the Times as that liberal rag. How quickly they forget that, back during the run-up to the War on Terror (reg, TM, copy), the Times was right in lockstep with the GOP in prosecuting the War. I guess they're only good as long as they're spouting *your* propaganda... ravenadal wrote: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080221/ap_on_el_pr/mccain_lobbyist McCain says report on lobbyist not true By LIBBY QUAID, Associated 1 hour, 44 minutes ago John McCain emphatically denied a romantic relationship with a female telecommunications lobbyist on Thursday and said a report by The New York Times suggesting favoritism for her clients is not true. I'm very disappointed in the article. It's not true, the likely Republican presidential nominee said as his wife, Cindy, stood beside him during a news conference called to address the matter. I've served this nation honorably for more than half a century, said McCain, a four-term Arizona senator and former Navy pilot. At no time have I ever done anything that would betray the public trust. I intend to move on, he added. McCain described the woman in question, lobbyist Vicki Iseman, as a friend. The newspaper quoted anonymous aides as saying they had urged McCain and Iseman to stay away from each other prior to his failed presidential campaign in 2000. In its own follow-up story, The Washington Post quoted longtime aide John Weaver, who split with McCain last year, as saying he met with lobbyist Iseman and urged her to steer clear of McCain. Weaver told the Times he arranged the meeting before the 2000 campaign after a discussion among the campaign leadership about Iseman. But McCain said he was unaware of any such conversation, and denied that his aides ever tried to talk to him about his interactions with Iseman. I never discussed it with John Weaver. As far as I know, there was no necessity for it, McCain said. I don't know anything about it, he added. John Weaver is a friend of mine. He remains a friend of mine. But I certainly didn't know anything of that nature. His wife also said she was disappointed with the newspaper. More importantly, my children and I not only trust my husband, but know that he would never do anything to not only disappoint our family, but disappoint the people of America. He's a man of great character, Cindy McCain said. The couple smiled throughout the questioning at a Toledo hotel. We think the story speaks for itself, Times executive editor Bill Keller said in a written statement Thursday. On the timing, our policy is we publish stories when they are ready. McCain's remaining rival for the Republican nomination, former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee, called McCain a good decent honorable man and said he accepted McCain's response. I've campaigned now on the same stage or platform with John McCain for 14 months. I only know him to be a man of integrity, Huckabee said in Houston. Today he denied any of that was true. I take him at his word. For me to get into it is completely immaterial. The published reports said McCain and Iseman each denied having a romantic relationship. Neither story asserted that there was a romantic relationship and offered no evidence that there was, reporting only that aides worried about the appearance of McCain having close ties to a lobbyist with business before the Senate Commerce
Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Preview: Knight Rider Is Back!
Yeah but, when you're single and all the available prospects are unavailable, you take whatever cheap thrill you can get... [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ah, it was as silly as the rest of the movie. It was such an obvious let's add something spicy and kinda edgy move -- Original message -- From: Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] And I have to miss *that*? [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: the intro scene I saw, she was fully clothed and packing her gun, saying goodbye to the lady--that's right--she evidently picked up at a bar the night before -- Original message -- From: ravenadal [EMAIL PROTECTED] Okay. I get it. Knight Rider redux = BAD. More importantly, is it true that the ravishing Sydney Poitner (JR.) essayed her part of her part in her underwear? I just wanna know before I DVR the repeat on Saturday. ~rave! [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] There is no reason Good can't triumph over Evil, if only angels will get organized along the lines of the Mafia. -Kurt Vonnegut, A Man Without A Country - Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] There is no reason Good can't triumph over Evil, if only angels will get organized along the lines of the Mafia. -Kurt Vonnegut, A Man Without A Country - Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[scifinoir2] 2nd Moonlight Leader Slayed!
UPDATE: According to trade reports, exec producer Joel Silver, along with what's left of the Moonlight writing team, will oversee production of the show's four remaining episodes. If Moonlight gets renewed for a second season, a new show-runner will be sought at that time. We now return you to the original story More backstage drama at Moonlight — and the timing couldn't be worse. I'm told that Chip Johannessen has been let go as show-runner just as the freshman drama is fighting for a second season. The search is on for a replacement. This is the second major regime change for the cult fave; over the summer Johannessen replaced David Greenwalt, who vacated his post for health reasons. The behind-the-scenes upheaval may explain why Moonlight was conspicuously absent from CBS' litany of renewals last week. It's unclear what impact this will have on the four post-strike episodes that the network just commissioned, which are slated to begin airing on April 11. But rest assured, when I know you'll know. In the meantime, weigh in below with your thoughts on Johannessen's exit. I'm guessing you're not happy about it. http://community.tvguide.com/blog-entry/TVGuide-Editors-Blog/Ausiello-Report/Ausiello-Scoop-Moonlight/800033835
[scifinoir2] Bionic Woman Laid to Rest
It's now official: The Commander in Chief award for the most spectacular freshman flame-out of the 07-08 TV season goes to... Bionic Woman! Although NBC isn't talking, I'm told by multiple sources that Bionic staffers were informed late last week that the troubled reboot has indeed been canceled. That means no spring relaunch under new show-runner Jason Cahill — which is too bad. Cahill's a talented guy (see: The Sopranos), and I was anxious to see what he would do with the show. But I guess it wasn't meant to be. At least now the first stage of grief can get under way. No, not shock — the snarky postmortem! What do you think felled Bionic Woman in the end? Was it the lackluster pilot? The absence of a clear, creative vision? Not enough Starbuck? Too much Isaiah Washington? All of the above? Sound off in the comments section below! http://community.tvguide.com/blog/TVGuide-Editors-Blog/Ausiello-Report/70049
Re: [scifinoir2] Bionic Woman Laid to Rest
Jason Cahill and Manny Coto should do a show together. They are both great at saving failed projects. On Fri, 22 Feb 2008 11:26:42 -0500, Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's now official: The Commander in Chief award for the most spectacular freshman flame-out of the 07-08 TV season goes to... Bionic Woman! Although NBC isn't talking, I'm told by multiple sources that Bionic staffers were informed late last week that the troubled reboot has indeed been canceled. That means no spring relaunch under new show-runner Jason Cahill — which is too bad. Cahill's a talented guy (see: The Sopranos), and I was anxious to see what he would do with the show. But I guess it wasn't meant to be. At least now the first stage of grief can get under way. No, not shock — the snarky postmortem! What do you think felled Bionic Woman in the end? Was it the lackluster pilot? The absence of a clear, creative vision? Not enough Starbuck? Too much Isaiah Washington? All of the above? Sound off in the comments section below! http://community.tvguide.com/blog/TVGuide-Editors-Blog/Ausiello-Report/70049
Re: [scifinoir2] Bionic Woman Laid to Rest
If so, I guess he still needs a show. When is 24 coming back? On Fri, 22 Feb 2008 12:03:54 -0500, Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I love Coto. Isn't he a show runner on 24? Lockhart, Daryle wrote: Jason Cahill and Manny Coto should do a show together. They are both great at saving failed projects. On Fri, 22 Feb 2008 11:26:42 -0500, Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's now official: The Commander in Chief award for the most spectacular freshman flame-out of the 07-08 TV season goes to... Bionic Woman! Although NBC isn't talking, I'm told by multiple sources that Bionic staffers were informed late last week that the troubled reboot has indeed been canceled. That means no spring relaunch under new show-runner Jason Cahill ⤠which is too bad. Cahill's a talented guy (see: The Sopranos), and I was anxious to see what he would do with the show. But I guess it wasn't meant to be. At least now the first stage of grief can get under way. No, not shock ⤠the snarky postmortem! What do you think felled Bionic Woman in the end? Was it the lackluster pilot? The absence of a clear, creative vision? Not enough Starbuck? Too much Isaiah Washington? All of the above? Sound off in the comments section below! http://community.tvguide.com/blog/TVGuide-Editors-Blog/Ausiello-Report/70049 Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [scifinoir2] Bionic Woman Laid to Rest
I love Coto. Isn't he a show runner on 24? Lockhart, Daryle wrote: Jason Cahill and Manny Coto should do a show together. They are both great at saving failed projects. On Fri, 22 Feb 2008 11:26:42 -0500, Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's now official: The Commander in Chief award for the most spectacular freshman flame-out of the 07-08 TV season goes to... Bionic Woman! Although NBC isn't talking, I'm told by multiple sources that Bionic staffers were informed late last week that the troubled reboot has indeed been canceled. That means no spring relaunch under new show-runner Jason Cahill ⤠which is too bad. Cahill's a talented guy (see: The Sopranos), and I was anxious to see what he would do with the show. But I guess it wasn't meant to be. At least now the first stage of grief can get under way. No, not shock ⤠the snarky postmortem! What do you think felled Bionic Woman in the end? Was it the lackluster pilot? The absence of a clear, creative vision? Not enough Starbuck? Too much Isaiah Washington? All of the above? Sound off in the comments section below! http://community.tvguide.com/blog/TVGuide-Editors-Blog/Ausiello-Report/70049 Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[scifinoir2] Weapons Screening Stopped at Obama Rally
Original Message Subject:Police concerned about order to stop weapons screening at Obama rally Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 09:37:56 -0800 From: Chris de Morsella [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Tracey de Morsella [EMAIL PROTECTED], 'julia demorsella' [EMAIL PROTECTED], 'paul demorsella' [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.star-telegram.com/dallas_news/story/486413.html *Police concerned about order to stop weapons screening at Obama rally* *By JACK DOUGLAS Jr.* *Star-Telegram Staff Writer* Barack Obama speaks Wednesday at a Democratic rally in Dallas' Reunion Arena. Police were told to stop screening people for weapons before the rally began. http://media.star-telegram.com/smedia/2008/02/21/05/416-324450-268988.standalone.prod_affiliate.58.jpg STAR-TELEGRAM/RODGER MALLISON Barack Obama speaks Wednesday at a Democratic rally in Dallas' Reunion Arena. Police were told to stop screening people for weapons before the rally began. DALLAS -- Security details at Barack Obama's rally Wednesday stopped screening people for weapons at the front gates more than an hour before the Democratic presidential candidate took the stage at Reunion Arena. The order to put down the metal detectors and stop checking purses and laptop bags came as a surprise to several Dallas police officers who said they believed it was a lapse in security. Dallas Deputy Police Chief T.W. Lawrence, head of the Police Department's homeland security and special operations divisions, said the order -- apparently made by the U.S. Secret Service -- was meant to speed up the long lines outside and fill the arena's vacant seats before Obama came on. Sure, said Lawrence, when asked if he was concerned by the great number of people who had gotten into the building without being checked. But, he added, the turnout of more than 17,000 people seemed to be a friendly crowd. The Secret Service did not return a call from the //Star-Telegram// seeking comment. Doors opened to the public at 10 a.m., and for the first hour security officers scanned each person who came in and checked their belongings in a process that kept movement of the long lines at a crawl. Then, about 11 a.m., an order came down to allow the people in without being checked. Several Dallas police officers said it worried them that the arena was packed with people who got in without even a cursory inspection. They spoke on condition of anonymity because, they said, the order was made by federal officials who were in charge of security at the event. How can you not be concerned in this day and age, said one policeman. JACK DOUGLAS Jr., 817-390-7700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [scifinoir2] Weapons Screening Stopped at Obama Rally
fairy tale land i dont know what world he lives in but... oh yeah hes a politician. On 2/22/08, Bosco Bosco [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We have officially moved into F'd up and totally scary spooky. Bosco --- Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] tdlists%40multiculturaladvantage.com wrote: Original Message Subject: Police concerned about order to stop weapons screening at Obama rally Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 09:37:56 -0800 From: Chris de Morsella [EMAIL PROTECTED] cdemorsella%40yahoo.com To: Tracey de Morsella [EMAIL PROTECTED]tdemorsella%40multiculturaladvantage.com , 'julia demorsella' [EMAIL PROTECTED] juliaisha%40yahoo.it, 'paul demorsella' [EMAIL PROTECTED] pcrdm%40yahoo.com http://www.star-telegram.com/dallas_news/story/486413.html *Police concerned about order to stop weapons screening at Obama rally* *By JACK DOUGLAS Jr.* *Star-Telegram Staff Writer* Barack Obama speaks Wednesday at a Democratic rally in Dallas' Reunion Arena. Police were told to stop screening people for weapons before the rally began. http://media.star-telegram.com/smedia/2008/02/21/05/416-324450-268988.standalone.prod_affiliate.58.jpg STAR-TELEGRAM/RODGER MALLISON Barack Obama speaks Wednesday at a Democratic rally in Dallas' Reunion Arena. Police were told to stop screening people for weapons before the rally began. DALLAS -- Security details at Barack Obama's rally Wednesday stopped screening people for weapons at the front gates more than an hour before the Democratic presidential candidate took the stage at Reunion Arena. The order to put down the metal detectors and stop checking purses and laptop bags came as a surprise to several Dallas police officers who said they believed it was a lapse in security. Dallas Deputy Police Chief T.W. Lawrence, head of the Police Department's homeland security and special operations divisions, said the order -- apparently made by the U.S. Secret Service -- was meant to speed up the long lines outside and fill the arena's vacant seats before Obama came on. Sure, said Lawrence, when asked if he was concerned by the great number of people who had gotten into the building without being checked. But, he added, the turnout of more than 17,000 people seemed to be a friendly crowd. The Secret Service did not return a call from the //Star-Telegram// seeking comment. Doors opened to the public at 10 a.m., and for the first hour security officers scanned each person who came in and checked their belongings in a process that kept movement of the long lines at a crawl. Then, about 11 a.m., an order came down to allow the people in without being checked. Several Dallas police officers said it worried them that the arena was packed with people who got in without even a cursory inspection. They spoke on condition of anonymity because, they said, the order was made by federal officials who were in charge of security at the event. How can you not be concerned in this day and age, said one policeman. JACK DOUGLAS Jr., 817-390-7700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] jld%40star-telegram.com mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] jld%40star-telegram.com Yahoo! Groups Links I got friends who are in prison and Friends who are dead. I'm gonna tell ya something that I've often said. You know these things that happen, That's just the way it's supposed to be. And I can't help but wonder, Don't ya know it coulda been me. __ Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [scifinoir2] Weapons Screening Stopped at Obama Rally
Consider the source of the order. Who's better at handling a situation where someone has a gun in a public place...Dallas Police, or the Secret Service? On Fri, 22 Feb 2008 15:16:11 -0500, buky90 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: fairy tale land i dont know what world he lives in but... oh yeah hes a politician. On 2/22/08, Bosco Bosco [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We have officially moved into F'd up and totally scary spooky. Bosco --- Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] tdlists%40multiculturaladvantage.com wrote: Original Message Subject: Police concerned about order to stop weapons screening at Obama rally Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 09:37:56 -0800 From: Chris de Morsella [EMAIL PROTECTED] cdemorsella%40yahoo.com To: Tracey de Morsella [EMAIL PROTECTED]tdemorsella%40multiculturaladvantage.com , 'julia demorsella' [EMAIL PROTECTED] juliaisha%40yahoo.it, 'paul demorsella' [EMAIL PROTECTED] pcrdm%40yahoo.com http://www.star-telegram.com/dallas_news/story/486413.html *Police concerned about order to stop weapons screening at Obama rally* *By JACK DOUGLAS Jr.* *Star-Telegram Staff Writer* Barack Obama speaks Wednesday at a Democratic rally in Dallas' Reunion Arena. Police were told to stop screening people for weapons before the rally began. http://media.star-telegram.com/smedia/2008/02/21/05/416-324450-268988.standalone.prod_affiliate.58.jpg STAR-TELEGRAM/RODGER MALLISON Barack Obama speaks Wednesday at a Democratic rally in Dallas' Reunion Arena. Police were told to stop screening people for weapons before the rally began. DALLAS -- Security details at Barack Obama's rally Wednesday stopped screening people for weapons at the front gates more than an hour before the Democratic presidential candidate took the stage at Reunion Arena. The order to put down the metal detectors and stop checking purses and laptop bags came as a surprise to several Dallas police officers who said they believed it was a lapse in security. Dallas Deputy Police Chief T.W. Lawrence, head of the Police Department's homeland security and special operations divisions, said the order -- apparently made by the U.S. Secret Service -- was meant to speed up the long lines outside and fill the arena's vacant seats before Obama came on. Sure, said Lawrence, when asked if he was concerned by the great number of people who had gotten into the building without being checked. But, he added, the turnout of more than 17,000 people seemed to be a friendly crowd. The Secret Service did not return a call from the //Star-Telegram// seeking comment. Doors opened to the public at 10 a.m., and for the first hour security officers scanned each person who came in and checked their belongings in a process that kept movement of the long lines at a crawl. Then, about 11 a.m., an order came down to allow the people in without being checked. Several Dallas police officers said it worried them that the arena was packed with people who got in without even a cursory inspection. They spoke on condition of anonymity because, they said, the order was made by federal officials who were in charge of security at the event. How can you not be concerned in this day and age, said one policeman. JACK DOUGLAS Jr., 817-390-7700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] jld%40star-telegram.com mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] jld%40star-telegram.com Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[scifinoir2] Akira cartoon gets new life with DiCaprio, WB
http://www.reuters.com/article/filmNews/idUSN2141398420080221 Akira cartoon gets new life with DiCaprio, WB Thu Feb 21, 2008 By Borys Kit LOS ANGELES (Hollywood Reporter) - The anime classic Akira is getting the live-action big screen treatment courtesy of Leonardo DiCaprio and a first-time feature filmmaker. Akira originated in 1988 as a manga and then as an animated film co-written and directed by Katsuhiro Otomo. The story was set in a neon-lit postapocalyptic New Tokyo in 2019 where a teen biker gang member is subjected to a government experiment that unleashes his latent powers. The gang's leader must find a way to stop the ensuing swathe of destruction. With its mature themes and cutting-edge animation, Akira was a milestone movie in anime and mainstream animation circles, leading the way for anime to make inroads into Western pop culture in the 1990s. The new story, which DiCaprio will produce for Warner Bros., ideally would be a two-part epic, with the first movie coming out next summer. The action will move to New Manhattan, a city rebuilt by Japanese money. It will mark the feature directorial debut of commercials veteran Ruairi Robinson, who sold the studio on his vision. The Irish native, who was nominated for a best animated short Oscar in 2001 for the sci-fi comedy Fifty Percent Grey, also wrote and directed a sci-fi short titled The Silent City. Reuters/Hollywood Reporter
Re: [scifinoir2] Weapons Screening Stopped at Obama Rally
We have officially moved into F'd up and totally scary spooky. Bosco --- Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Original Message Subject: Police concerned about order to stop weapons screening at Obama rally Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 09:37:56 -0800 From: Chris de Morsella [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Tracey de Morsella [EMAIL PROTECTED], 'julia demorsella' [EMAIL PROTECTED], 'paul demorsella' [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.star-telegram.com/dallas_news/story/486413.html *Police concerned about order to stop weapons screening at Obama rally* *By JACK DOUGLAS Jr.* *Star-Telegram Staff Writer* Barack Obama speaks Wednesday at a Democratic rally in Dallas' Reunion Arena. Police were told to stop screening people for weapons before the rally began. http://media.star-telegram.com/smedia/2008/02/21/05/416-324450-268988.standalone.prod_affiliate.58.jpg STAR-TELEGRAM/RODGER MALLISON Barack Obama speaks Wednesday at a Democratic rally in Dallas' Reunion Arena. Police were told to stop screening people for weapons before the rally began. DALLAS -- Security details at Barack Obama's rally Wednesday stopped screening people for weapons at the front gates more than an hour before the Democratic presidential candidate took the stage at Reunion Arena. The order to put down the metal detectors and stop checking purses and laptop bags came as a surprise to several Dallas police officers who said they believed it was a lapse in security. Dallas Deputy Police Chief T.W. Lawrence, head of the Police Department's homeland security and special operations divisions, said the order -- apparently made by the U.S. Secret Service -- was meant to speed up the long lines outside and fill the arena's vacant seats before Obama came on. Sure, said Lawrence, when asked if he was concerned by the great number of people who had gotten into the building without being checked. But, he added, the turnout of more than 17,000 people seemed to be a friendly crowd. The Secret Service did not return a call from the //Star-Telegram// seeking comment. Doors opened to the public at 10 a.m., and for the first hour security officers scanned each person who came in and checked their belongings in a process that kept movement of the long lines at a crawl. Then, about 11 a.m., an order came down to allow the people in without being checked. Several Dallas police officers said it worried them that the arena was packed with people who got in without even a cursory inspection. They spoke on condition of anonymity because, they said, the order was made by federal officials who were in charge of security at the event. How can you not be concerned in this day and age, said one policeman. JACK DOUGLAS Jr., 817-390-7700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links I got friends who are in prison and Friends who are dead. I'm gonna tell ya something that I've often said. You know these things that happen, That's just the way it's supposed to be. And I can't help but wonder, Don't ya know it coulda been me. Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping
Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Jumper - SPOILER ALERT!!!!!!
thanks, that helps a great bit. Yout two cool now? -- Original message -- From: Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Actually, that is why I did it. Chris and I had a fight. When that happens, we try to walk away and come back together after we cool off. I needed to kill a few hours, and take my mind off stuff, so I drove up to the theater. Jumper was about to start, so I chose it. It took my mind off of stuff. I know you got more serious stuff going on, but it is just what the doctor ordered. I went with very low expectations so I enjoyed it and went home to make up with Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i've had several people tell me to stay away from this movie at all costs. But I really need a fun time waster to take my mind off some things. Is it at least a good popcorn flick Phyllis and I can lose ourselves in for a couple of hours without feeling regret? -- Original message -- From: Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] I saw it. It definitely was not theater worthy, but I think it would be a great TV show. I love the teleportation concept and some of the mythology and laws were good too. Unfortunately, it came across like a pilot movie for a scifi tv show. To mad it is not a tv series ravenadal wrote: To me, teleportation has always been the coolest of all superpowers. Couple it with a proximity sense, keen hearing (so you can hear when a shot is fired and teleport an instant before it gets there), or just plain common sense and you have one heck of a skill set! ~rave! --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, DJ VIBE [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Feb 15, 2008 6:31 PM, ravenadal ravenadal@ wrote: There is a scene in the new Jumper movie (no, I have not seen it) SPOILER ALERT!! where the hero is watching the aftermath of the Hurricane Karina on his television. He gets dressed and teleports...to London, where he has a date. So much for great responsibility coming with great power! It was right in keeping with how his character was established in the movie, although for a moment there I thought he might think of using his abilities for good. Overall, I found the movie pretty good, with one exception. How the hell did the Paladins continually catch jumpers? Its one thing if you get the drop on one, but if you're standing in FRONT of one who is fresh and the jumper sees you and you try to get him with your stun-wand, how are you gonna get him? In less than three minutes, my wife and I came up with several ways to use a teleportation power offesinvely (i.e. teleport in a circle around your opponent a la Nightcrawer. et. al) and in all of those cases we came up with, no normal human would have a chance against a jumper. Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [scifinoir2] Akira cartoon gets new life with DiCaprio, WB
What a bizarre career Leonardo is building for himself. On Fri, 22 Feb 2008 15:29:45 -0500, brent wodehouse [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.reuters.com/article/filmNews/idUSN2141398420080221 Akira cartoon gets new life with DiCaprio, WB Thu Feb 21, 2008 By Borys Kit LOS ANGELES (Hollywood Reporter) - The anime classic Akira is getting the live-action big screen treatment courtesy of Leonardo DiCaprio and a first-time feature filmmaker. Akira originated in 1988 as a manga and then as an animated film co-written and directed by Katsuhiro Otomo. The story was set in a neon-lit postapocalyptic New Tokyo in 2019 where a teen biker gang member is subjected to a government experiment that unleashes his latent powers. The gang's leader must find a way to stop the ensuing swathe of destruction. With its mature themes and cutting-edge animation, Akira was a milestone movie in anime and mainstream animation circles, leading the way for anime to make inroads into Western pop culture in the 1990s. The new story, which DiCaprio will produce for Warner Bros., ideally would be a two-part epic, with the first movie coming out next summer. The action will move to New Manhattan, a city rebuilt by Japanese money. It will mark the feature directorial debut of commercials veteran Ruairi Robinson, who sold the studio on his vision. The Irish native, who was nominated for a best animated short Oscar in 2001 for the sci-fi comedy Fifty Percent Grey, also wrote and directed a sci-fi short titled The Silent City. Reuters/Hollywood Reporter Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [scifinoir2] Akira cartoon gets new life with DiCaprio, WB
I can see him in this. Can't remember any of the characters' names, but I just can see it. Lockhart, Daryle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What a bizarre career Leonardo is building for himself. On Fri, 22 Feb 2008 15:29:45 -0500, brent wodehouse wrote: http://www.reuters.com/article/filmNews/idUSN2141398420080221 Akira cartoon gets new life with DiCaprio, WB Thu Feb 21, 2008 By Borys Kit LOS ANGELES (Hollywood Reporter) - The anime classic Akira is getting the live-action big screen treatment courtesy of Leonardo DiCaprio and a first-time feature filmmaker. Akira originated in 1988 as a manga and then as an animated film co-written and directed by Katsuhiro Otomo. The story was set in a neon-lit postapocalyptic New Tokyo in 2019 where a teen biker gang member is subjected to a government experiment that unleashes his latent powers. The gang's leader must find a way to stop the ensuing swathe of destruction. With its mature themes and cutting-edge animation, Akira was a milestone movie in anime and mainstream animation circles, leading the way for anime to make inroads into Western pop culture in the 1990s. The new story, which DiCaprio will produce for Warner Bros., ideally would be a two-part epic, with the first movie coming out next summer. The action will move to New Manhattan, a city rebuilt by Japanese money. It will mark the feature directorial debut of commercials veteran Ruairi Robinson, who sold the studio on his vision. The Irish native, who was nominated for a best animated short Oscar in 2001 for the sci-fi comedy Fifty Percent Grey, also wrote and directed a sci-fi short titled The Silent City. Reuters/Hollywood Reporter Yahoo! Groups Links There is no reason Good can't triumph over Evil, if only angels will get organized along the lines of the Mafia. -Kurt Vonnegut, A Man Without A Country - Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [scifinoir2] Akira cartoon gets new life with DiCaprio, WB
Everybody wants to be Kaneda. He'll be Kaneda. On Fri, 22 Feb 2008 16:00:50 -0500, Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I can see him in this. Can't remember any of the characters' names, but I just can see it. Lockhart, Daryle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What a bizarre career Leonardo is building for himself. On Fri, 22 Feb 2008 15:29:45 -0500, brent wodehouse wrote: http://www.reuters.com/article/filmNews/idUSN2141398420080221 Akira cartoon gets new life with DiCaprio, WB Thu Feb 21, 2008 By Borys Kit LOS ANGELES (Hollywood Reporter) - The anime classic Akira is getting the live-action big screen treatment courtesy of Leonardo DiCaprio and a first-time feature filmmaker. Akira originated in 1988 as a manga and then as an animated film co-written and directed by Katsuhiro Otomo. The story was set in a neon-lit postapocalyptic New Tokyo in 2019 where a teen biker gang member is subjected to a government experiment that unleashes his latent powers. The gang's leader must find a way to stop the ensuing swathe of destruction. With its mature themes and cutting-edge animation, Akira was a milestone movie in anime and mainstream animation circles, leading the way for anime to make inroads into Western pop culture in the 1990s. The new story, which DiCaprio will produce for Warner Bros., ideally would be a two-part epic, with the first movie coming out next summer. The action will move to New Manhattan, a city rebuilt by Japanese money. It will mark the feature directorial debut of commercials veteran Ruairi Robinson, who sold the studio on his vision. The Irish native, who was nominated for a best animated short Oscar in 2001 for the sci-fi comedy Fifty Percent Grey, also wrote and directed a sci-fi short titled The Silent City. Reuters/Hollywood Reporter Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [scifinoir2] Bionic Woman Laid to Rest
Daryle, the whisper-stream says spring of '09 for 24's return. Lockhart, Daryle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If so, I guess he still needs a show. When is 24 coming back? On Fri, 22 Feb 2008 12:03:54 -0500, Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I love Coto. Isn't he a show runner on 24? Lockhart, Daryle wrote: Jason Cahill and Manny Coto should do a show together. They are both great at saving failed projects. On Fri, 22 Feb 2008 11:26:42 -0500, Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's now official: The Commander in Chief award for the most spectacular freshman flame-out of the 07-08 TV season goes to... Bionic Woman! Although NBC isn't talking, I'm told by multiple sources that Bionic staffers were informed late last week that the troubled reboot has indeed been canceled. That means no spring relaunch under new show-runner Jason Cahill ⤠which is too bad. Cahill's a talented guy (see: The Sopranos), and I was anxious to see what he would do with the show. But I guess it wasn't meant to be. At least now the first stage of grief can get under way. No, not shock ⤠the snarky postmortem! What do you think felled Bionic Woman in the end? Was it the lackluster pilot? The absence of a clear, creative vision? Not enough Starbuck? Too much Isaiah Washington? All of the above? Sound off in the comments section below! http://community.tvguide.com/blog/TVGuide-Editors-Blog/Ausiello-Report/70049 Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links There is no reason Good can't triumph over Evil, if only angels will get organized along the lines of the Mafia. -Kurt Vonnegut, A Man Without A Country - Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [scifinoir2] Bionic Woman Laid to Rest
He is, Tracey. He came on not long after Enterprise shut down. Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I love Coto. Isn't he a show runner on 24? Lockhart, Daryle wrote: Jason Cahill and Manny Coto should do a show together. They are both great at saving failed projects. On Fri, 22 Feb 2008 11:26:42 -0500, Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) wrote: It's now official: The Commander in Chief award for the most spectacular freshman flame-out of the 07-08 TV season goes to... Bionic Woman! Although NBC isn't talking, I'm told by multiple sources that Bionic staffers were informed late last week that the troubled reboot has indeed been canceled. That means no spring relaunch under new show-runner Jason Cahill ⤠which is too bad. Cahill's a talented guy (see: The Sopranos), and I was anxious to see what he would do with the show. But I guess it wasn't meant to be. At least now the first stage of grief can get under way. No, not shock ⤠the snarky postmortem! What do you think felled Bionic Woman in the end? Was it the lackluster pilot? The absence of a clear, creative vision? Not enough Starbuck? Too much Isaiah Washington? All of the above? Sound off in the comments section below! http://community.tvguide.com/blog/TVGuide-Editors-Blog/Ausiello-Report/70049 Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links There is no reason Good can't triumph over Evil, if only angels will get organized along the lines of the Mafia. -Kurt Vonnegut, A Man Without A Country - Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Jumper - SPOILER ALERT!!!!!!
We fight now and then. Its rarely serious. It happens with two people who both are right :). One of the reasons I married him, is he does not like prolonged battles nor misunderstandings. I'm the same way, I hope. When I came home, we talked and made up.We are cool.thanks for asking :) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: thanks, that helps a great bit. Yout two cool now? -- Original message -- From: Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Actually, that is why I did it. Chris and I had a fight. When that happens, we try to walk away and come back together after we cool off. I needed to kill a few hours, and take my mind off stuff, so I drove up to the theater. Jumper was about to start, so I chose it. It took my mind off of stuff. I know you got more serious stuff going on, but it is just what the doctor ordered. I went with very low expectations so I enjoyed it and went home to make up with Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i've had several people tell me to stay away from this movie at all costs. But I really need a fun time waster to take my mind off some things. Is it at least a good popcorn flick Phyllis and I can lose ourselves in for a couple of hours without feeling regret? -- Original message -- From: Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] I saw it. It definitely was not theater worthy, but I think it would be a great TV show. I love the teleportation concept and some of the mythology and laws were good too. Unfortunately, it came across like a pilot movie for a scifi tv show. To mad it is not a tv series ravenadal wrote: To me, teleportation has always been the coolest of all superpowers. Couple it with a proximity sense, keen hearing (so you can hear when a shot is fired and teleport an instant before it gets there), or just plain common sense and you have one heck of a skill set! ~rave! --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, DJ VIBE [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Feb 15, 2008 6:31 PM, ravenadal ravenadal@ wrote: There is a scene in the new Jumper movie (no, I have not seen it) SPOILER ALERT!! where the hero is watching the aftermath of the Hurricane Karina on his television. He gets dressed and teleports...to London, where he has a date. So much for great responsibility coming with great power! It was right in keeping with how his character was established in the movie, although for a moment there I thought he might think of using his abilities for good. Overall, I found the movie pretty good, with one exception. How the hell did the Paladins continually catch jumpers? Its one thing if you get the drop on one, but if you're standing in FRONT of one who is fresh and the jumper sees you and you try to get him with your stun-wand, how are you gonna get him? In less than three minutes, my wife and I came up with several ways to use a teleportation power offesinvely (i.e. teleport in a circle around your opponent a la Nightcrawer. et. al) and in all of those cases we came up with, no normal human would have a chance against a jumper. Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [scifinoir2] Bionic Woman Laid to Rest
I've got a weird idea. If he can get the money, why not do a one-shot, direct-to-DVD feature of his proposal? Just the first weird thought out of my head this hour. Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's now official: The Commander in Chief award for the most spectacular freshman flame-out of the 07-08 TV season goes to... Bionic Woman! Although NBC isn't talking, I'm told by multiple sources that Bionic staffers were informed late last week that the troubled reboot has indeed been canceled. That means no spring relaunch under new show-runner Jason Cahill â which is too bad. Cahill's a talented guy (see: The Sopranos), and I was anxious to see what he would do with the show. But I guess it wasn't meant to be. At least now the first stage of grief can get under way. No, not shock â the snarky postmortem! What do you think felled Bionic Woman in the end? Was it the lackluster pilot? The absence of a clear, creative vision? Not enough Starbuck? Too much Isaiah Washington? All of the above? Sound off in the comments section below! http://community.tvguide.com/blog/TVGuide-Editors-Blog/Ausiello-Report/70049 There is no reason Good can't triumph over Evil, if only angels will get organized along the lines of the Mafia. -Kurt Vonnegut, A Man Without A Country - Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [scifinoir2] Bionic Woman Laid to Rest
This is a show that Sci-Fi should buy and produce. On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 11:26 AM, Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's now official: The Commander in Chief award for the most spectacular freshman flame-out of the 07-08 TV season goes to... Bionic Woman! Although NBC isn't talking, I'm told by multiple sources that Bionic staffers were informed late last week that the troubled reboot has indeed been canceled. That means no spring relaunch under new show-runner Jason Cahill — which is too bad. Cahill's a talented guy (see: The Sopranos), and I was anxious to see what he would do with the show. But I guess it wasn't meant to be. At least now the first stage of grief can get under way. No, not shock — the snarky postmortem! What do you think felled Bionic Woman in the end? Was it the lackluster pilot? The absence of a clear, creative vision? Not enough Starbuck? Too much Isaiah Washington? All of the above? Sound off in the comments section below! http://community.tvguide.com/blog/TVGuide-Editors-Blog/Ausiello-Report/70049 -- Founder of : The Greasy Guide http://greasyguide.com Your Online Destination for Urban Information Director of Community Development Associated Content, The People's Media Company http://associatedcontent.com Consultant: New Media Strategies Jamati.com Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [scifinoir2] Bionic Woman Laid to Rest
I'm surprised that Skiffy didn't pick it up, since they're under the NBCUniversal umbrella. Mike Street [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is a show that Sci-Fi should buy and produce. On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 11:26 AM, Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) wrote: It's now official: The Commander in Chief award for the most spectacular freshman flame-out of the 07-08 TV season goes to... Bionic Woman! Although NBC isn't talking, I'm told by multiple sources that Bionic staffers were informed late last week that the troubled reboot has indeed been canceled. That means no spring relaunch under new show-runner Jason Cahill which is too bad. Cahill's a talented guy (see: The Sopranos), and I was anxious to see what he would do with the show. But I guess it wasn't meant to be. At least now the first stage of grief can get under way. No, not shock the snarky postmortem! What do you think felled Bionic Woman in the end? Was it the lackluster pilot? The absence of a clear, creative vision? Not enough Starbuck? Too much Isaiah Washington? All of the above? Sound off in the comments section below! http://community.tvguide.com/blog/TVGuide-Editors-Blog/Ausiello-Report/70049 -- Founder of : The Greasy Guide http://greasyguide.com Your Online Destination for Urban Information Director of Community Development Associated Content, The People's Media Company http://associatedcontent.com Consultant: New Media Strategies Jamati.com Yahoo! Groups Links There is no reason Good can't triumph over Evil, if only angels will get organized along the lines of the Mafia. -Kurt Vonnegut, A Man Without A Country - Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [scifinoir2] Bionic Woman Laid to Rest
They would have to retool and replace the lead Martin wrote: I'm surprised that Skiffy didn't pick it up, since they're under the NBCUniversal umbrella. Mike Street [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is a show that Sci-Fi should buy and produce. On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 11:26 AM, Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) wrote: It's now official: The Commander in Chief award for the most spectacular freshman flame-out of the 07-08 TV season goes to... Bionic Woman! Although NBC isn't talking, I'm told by multiple sources that Bionic staffers were informed late last week that the troubled reboot has indeed been canceled. That means no spring relaunch under new show-runner Jason Cahill --- which is too bad. Cahill's a talented guy (see: The Sopranos), and I was anxious to see what he would do with the show. But I guess it wasn't meant to be. At least now the first stage of grief can get under way. No, not shock --- the snarky postmortem! What do you think felled Bionic Woman in the end? Was it the lackluster pilot? The absence of a clear, creative vision? Not enough Starbuck? Too much Isaiah Washington? All of the above? Sound off in the comments section below! http://community.tvguide.com/blog/TVGuide-Editors-Blog/Ausiello-Report/70049 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [scifinoir2] Weapons Screening Stopped at Obama Rally
I don't understand what you mean? Could you please explain?
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--- buky90 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
fairy tale land i dont know what world he lives in but... oh yeah
hes a
politician.
On 2/22/08, Bosco Bosco [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
We have officially moved into F'd up and totally scary spooky.
Bosco
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Subject: Police concerned about order to stop weapons screening
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Obama rally
Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 09:37:56 -0800
From: Chris de Morsella [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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To: Tracey de Morsella
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http://www.star-telegram.com/dallas_news/story/486413.html
*Police concerned about order to stop weapons screening at
Obama
rally*
*By JACK DOUGLAS Jr.*
*Star-Telegram Staff Writer*
Barack Obama speaks Wednesday at a Democratic rally in Dallas'
Reunion
Arena. Police were told to stop screening people for weapons
before
the
rally began.
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STAR-TELEGRAM/RODGER MALLISON
Barack Obama speaks Wednesday at a Democratic rally in Dallas'
Reunion
Arena. Police were told to stop screening people for weapons
before
the
rally began.
DALLAS -- Security details at Barack Obama's rally Wednesday
stopped
screening people for weapons at the front gates more than an
hour
before
the Democratic presidential candidate took the stage at Reunion
Arena.
The order to put down the metal detectors and stop checking
purses
and
laptop bags came as a surprise to several Dallas police
officers
who
said they believed it was a lapse in security.
Dallas Deputy Police Chief T.W. Lawrence, head of the Police
Department's homeland security and special operations
divisions,
said
the order -- apparently made by the U.S. Secret Service -- was
meant to
speed up the long lines outside and fill the arena's vacant
seats
before
Obama came on.
Sure, said Lawrence, when asked if he was concerned by the
great
number of people who had gotten into the building without being
checked.
But, he added, the turnout of more than 17,000 people seemed to
be
a
friendly crowd.
The Secret Service did not return a call from the
//Star-Telegram//
seeking comment.
Doors opened to the public at 10 a.m., and for the first hour
security
officers scanned each person who came in and checked their
belongings in
a process that kept movement of the long lines at a crawl.
Then,
about
11 a.m., an order came down to allow the people in without
being
checked.
Several Dallas police officers said it worried them that the
arena
was
packed with people who got in without even a cursory
inspection.
They spoke on condition of anonymity because, they said, the
order
was
made by federal officials who were in charge of security at the
event.
How can you not be concerned in this day and age, said one
policeman.
JACK DOUGLAS Jr., 817-390-7700
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Re: [scifinoir2] Bionic Woman Laid to Rest
And *there*, Tracey, is where it gets scary. Kristanna Loken, anyone? 8-O Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: They would have to retool and replace the lead Martin wrote: I'm surprised that Skiffy didn't pick it up, since they're under the NBCUniversal umbrella. Mike Street [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is a show that Sci-Fi should buy and produce. On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 11:26 AM, Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) wrote: It's now official: The Commander in Chief award for the most spectacular freshman flame-out of the 07-08 TV season goes to... Bionic Woman! Although NBC isn't talking, I'm told by multiple sources that Bionic staffers were informed late last week that the troubled reboot has indeed been canceled. That means no spring relaunch under new show-runner Jason Cahill --- which is too bad. Cahill's a talented guy (see: The Sopranos), and I was anxious to see what he would do with the show. But I guess it wasn't meant to be. At least now the first stage of grief can get under way. No, not shock --- the snarky postmortem! What do you think felled Bionic Woman in the end? Was it the lackluster pilot? The absence of a clear, creative vision? Not enough Starbuck? Too much Isaiah Washington? All of the above? Sound off in the comments section below! http://community.tvguide.com/blog/TVGuide-Editors-Blog/Ausiello-Report/70049 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] There is no reason Good can't triumph over Evil, if only angels will get organized along the lines of the Mafia. -Kurt Vonnegut, A Man Without A Country - Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [scifinoir2] Bionic Woman Laid to Rest
Yikes!!! Martin wrote: And *there*, Tracey, is where it gets scary. Kristanna Loken, anyone? 8-O Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: They would have to retool and replace the lead Martin wrote: I'm surprised that Skiffy didn't pick it up, since they're under the NBCUniversal umbrella. Mike Street [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is a show that Sci-Fi should buy and produce. On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 11:26 AM, Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) wrote: It's now official: The Commander in Chief award for the most spectacular freshman flame-out of the 07-08 TV season goes to... Bionic Woman! Although NBC isn't talking, I'm told by multiple sources that Bionic staffers were informed late last week that the troubled reboot has indeed been canceled. That means no spring relaunch under new show-runner Jason Cahill --- which is too bad. Cahill's a talented guy (see: The Sopranos), and I was anxious to see what he would do with the show. But I guess it wasn't meant to be. At least now the first stage of grief can get under way. No, not shock --- the snarky postmortem! What do you think felled Bionic Woman in the end? Was it the lackluster pilot? The absence of a clear, creative vision? Not enough Starbuck? Too much Isaiah Washington? All of the above? Sound off in the comments section below! http://community.tvguide.com/blog/TVGuide-Editors-Blog/Ausiello-Report/70049 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] There is no reason Good can't triumph over Evil, if only angels will get organized along the lines of the Mafia. -Kurt Vonnegut, A Man Without A Country - Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[scifinoir2] More Toys Going to Movies - HELP
No good can come from this. Universal Teams With Hasbro http://www.scifi.com/scifiwire/index.php?category=0id=48950 Universal Pictures and Hasbro have announced a six-year strategic partnership to produce at least four feature films based on some of Hasbro's best-known game and toy brands, including Monopoly; Candy Land; Clue; Ouija; Battleship; Magic, the Gathering; and Stretch Armstrong, according to The Hollywood Reporter. Hasbro will partner exclusively with Universal for feature films, with the exception of Transformers and G.I. Joe, which are already at DreamWorks and Paramount. The first film emerging from the deal will be released in 2010 or 2011, and Universal will release at least one film a year after that. Hasbro is co-financing script development with Universal and has the option of co-funding production of the films. Hasbro will retain all merchandising rights to the brands, and the companies will share in consumer products revenue generated by the movies. Shmuger said Universal and Hasbro still are working out which brand will be the first project developed, but sources said it's likely to be Monopoly or Ouija. Hasbro COO Brian Goldner said Michael Bay and his Platinum Dune production company are signed on as producers for a Ouija project, and David Berenbaum has signed on to write a draft of a script. He said Hasbro is in negotiations with Ridley Scott on Monopoly. Universal is owned by NBC Universal, which also owns SCIFI.com. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[scifinoir2] News For Martha Jones Fans - Dr. Who/torchwoord
anyone here what Torchwood? Scifi addict that I am, you know I have been checking it out. So far, I think this season is better than last season. Exclusive: 'Torchwood' Hub Means A New Martha By ALAN STANLEY BLAIR Source: SyFy Portal Feb-20-2008 This story contains MODERATE SPOILERS for Season 2 of Torchwood and the upcoming fourth season of Doctor Who. Her name is Martha Jones, and last year she saved the world. But at the end of her 13-episode stint as The Doctor’s companion, BBC bosses announced that Freema Agyeman would be giving up her full-time role on the series to make way for the return of Catherine Tate. The news both disheartened and elated Martha Jones fans, because although the character will have a reduced part in the upcoming fourth season of Doctor Who, she will have an additional three-episode run on the adult-themed spinoff for BBC Two and BBC America, Torchwood. This announcement caused quite a media stir within the British press as tabloids had already made a variety of outlandish claims about her future with the series. However, in an exclusive interview with SyFy Portal, Agyeman set the record straight as to why she’ll be stepping into the Hub instead of the Tardis. The decision was character based 100 percent, Agyeman told SyFy Portal’s Alan Stanley Blair. In this business, no one has to do anyone any favors, and if they weren’t happy, I’d be completely away. The rumors of my departure came five weeks before the press announcement on the future of the series and it happened without any of the facts. I was hugely pleased with the decision to go to ‘Torchwood.’ And gosh, going back to ‘Who’ as well. There was no scandal, no ill feelings in any way. The tabloids put two and two together and came up with five and a half. So, beginning with the sixth episode of “Torchwood,” the now fully qualified Dr. Martha Jones will take on the weird, the wacky and the paranormal from Cardiff Bay as part of Team Torchwood. But don’t expect to see a darker Martha, especially since the BBC believes she’ll attract a slightly younger audience. They are very mindful that I’ll be going between the two shows, Agyeman said. We know Martha has a large youth following so we’ve been mindful that we’re not having sex or swearing in case some of the younger fans tune in. Even though there is a pre-watershed edit we can’t control who will tune in. In the episode, Martha (who is now working for alien specialists UNIT that was established in the original run of Doctor Who) receives a call from Capt. Jack Harkness (John Barrowman) following a string of unexplained deaths. As a UNIT operative, she has also been looking into the events and has more information than Torchwood does making her a valuable asset to solving the case. There is a really nice arc in those three episodes actually, she said. Jack calls Martha to give them a hand in Episode 6 and because Martha is in UNIT now, she has a little bit more information that he needs. And the consequences of that ends in a great cliff-hanger leading into episode seven so it’s really like a good two-parter. By the end of Episode 8, she’s part of the team. It is a very natural progression of the character that I’m really pleased with.” Of course, with both shows being such different entities, how much of the old “Doctor Who” dynamic crosses over with Martha? When Barrowman initially returned to “Doctor Who” for its final three episodes last season, we saw a lighter side to him than what was the norm for the Torchwood leader. And Agyeman confirmed that the same holds true for Martha. “You take this character into a different environment and you wonder how people take to that,” she said. “These are all new experiences for an all-new character in a new environment. She’s harder, more qualified and able to do things alone without looking to The Doctor. She’s very different and she’ll be very different again when she’s about him. Because when you are with different people you behave differently. That’s how I perceived it and that’s how I tried to play it.” And as a result, fans can only expect a few references to their history over the three-episode arc. It’s touched on but not discussed -- mostly in a lovely moment between the two characters,” she hinted. “It would be weird if they didn’t talk about it, but the team don’t even know where he [Jack] went when he vanished. In ‘Torchwood’ he is a much more mysterious character and the team aren’t privy to all the details of his past. They don’t know how he knows Martha. But the audience do and so can enjoy it.” When she joined the series, Agyeman felt she had a good idea of what to expect with regards to production, writing and acting – unfortunately she wasn’t quite prepared for John “The Prankster” Barrowman who welcomed her to the series in his own special way. And he did it with a song. “There is always something with John, but half of it is rude
[scifinoir2] It's Over for Jericho
Sources: 'Jericho' To Wrap It Up By MICHAEL HINMAN Source: SyFy Portal Feb-21-2008 It looks like the Jericho experiment is about to come to an end. Sources have told SyFy Portal that CBS is gearing up to air the series finale version of the post-apocalyptic series on March 25, one of two endings shot that would either allow a cliffhanger going into a third season, or a proper amount of closure for Jericho fans who fought hard to force CBS to reconsider its previous decision to cancel the show. There are a lot of people here who really care about what happens to 'Jericho,' and I think we all wanted to see it succeed, the source, who asked not to be identified, said. Numbers are numbers, and [CBS] had to do what [CBS] had to do. Ratings for the first two episodes were well below even some of the worst numbers the show experienced at the end of the first season which helped prompt network officials to move toward cancellation. Although it is competing in a post-American Idol scheduling environment, Jericho struggled to compete with shows that were either in reruns, or not part of mainstream viewing habits. At the same time, audiences in key demographics of 18 to 49 -- a demo that isn't typically attracted to CBS for many of its other programmings -- were noticeably absent from the first pair of viewings from the show, and there is little chance they'll suddenly return in the coming weeks. But the decision isn't quite final yet ... network executives still have room to change their mind. If the audience can come back to the show in the next two episodes, and I mean a lot, [CBS] may reconsider, the source said. Fans definitely have a say, and they had a say last summer [with the 'Nuts to Jericho' campaign], but I think the final decision this time is going to come down to hard numbers, and they're just not there for 'Jericho.' Please note that none of this has been confirmed by CBS, and should be treated as any rumor would. Jericho airs Tuesdays at 10 p.m. ET on CBS. http://www.syfyportal.com/news424744.html Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[scifinoir2] What's Coming Up In Genre TV?
By ED LEFT Source: SyFy Portal Feb-18-2008 The Writers Guild of America strike has ended, and the networks are making their plans for the remainder of the season and beyond. And because of the strike, we didn't have a normal pilot season. Instead, the networks started ordering series directly instead of ordering a pilot, or even ordered foreign series. Here's a look at the new series coming to your screens in the next twelve months or so. Dollhouse will air on Fox, was created and produced by Joss Whedon, and stars Eliza Dushku. It's about men and women imprinted with different personalities and skills for different assignments, and then having those personalities wiped clean when the assignment is completed. When between assignments, they live like children in the Dollhouse, their dormitory/laboratory. They live with no memories of which they are, until Echo, played by Dushku, begins to remember. I like the concept behind this show. If it was airing on a cable network, I think we'd have a winner. However, it will be airing on Fox. Joss Whedon is a genre fan favorite, but let's face it, he hasn't really had a hit show. Although Buffy the Vampire Slayer and Angel had long runs, they ran on minor netlets. Neither show would have lasted on a major network. Firefly did air on a major network, and it was a ratings failure. Dushku previously starred in genre series Tru Calling, and it also failed in the ratings. Combining Whedon, Dushku and Fox does not spell success. I think we'll only see the seven episodes contracted, if that. Fear Itself, a horror anthology from NBC, promises be much like Showtime's Masters of Horror, providing 60-minute telefilms by name horror writers and directors. Anthologies don't work on network television anymore. This one is doomed before it starts. The Listener is being produced by CTV in Canada, and has been bought by NBC to air this coming summer/fall. Paramedic Toby Logan, played by Craig Olejnik, has the power to listen to people's most intimate thoughts. With the help of his friend and partner Osman Bey (Ennis Esmer), they save lives and solve mysteries. Borrowing from Heroes, they take the most lame of abilities and build a show around it. It could work, but it would depend on the strength of the writing and the acting. I don't hold out much hope. Middleman from writer-producer Javier Grillo-Marxuach of Lost fame, stars Natalie Morales as a struggling artist recruited by an agency to fight comic-book style villains. Matt Keeslay co-stars as Middleman, her superhero guide and mentor. It's on ABC Family, so expect it to be pointed at the family crowd, and it will probably have a Kyle XY look and feel. It seems on ABC Family, cast and chemistry is the most important aspect. If they're likeable, the show will probably stick around. Sanctuary, the Web series picked up by the SciFi Channel, stars Amanda Tapping as Dr. Helen Magnus. Magnus runs the Sanctuary, which is a home to various creatures of myth and legend, who must be tracked down and protected. Dr. Will Zimmerman, played by Robin Dunne assists her in her quest. It's cheap to produce, and airs on SciFi. It's a match made in heaven. It also has Stargate SG-1 connections, which will bring in a ready-made audience. This show could have legs. Section 8 has been picked up by ABC for a six-episode order. The premise is a group of everyday people with advanced neurological abnormalities who work for a secret government agency. This sounds like a very thinly veiled Heroes homage. Or maybe it's more like Misfits of Science? We'll find out. True Blood is brought to us by HBO, and is based on the Southern Vampire book series by Charlaine Harris. It features Sookie Stackhouse, played by Anna Paquin, a mind reading barmaid in Louisiana who falls in love with vampire Bill Compton, played by Stephen Moyer. Vampires are no longer a secret, and can feed on a synthetic blood developed by the Japanese. It's HBO, so you know they will be spending some money on it. But I wonder if vampire fans will tune into another vampire series so soon after the demise of Blood Ties and the fate of Moonlight still up in the air. Getting Anna Paquin to star was a good move, and it guarantees I will check out the pilot, at least. Wizard's First Rule is a new first-run syndication series set to air this fall. Produced by Spider-Man director Sam Raimi, this series is based on the Sword of Truth book series by Terry Goodkind, and follows the extraordinary transformation of woodsman Richard Cypher into a magical leader who joins with a mysterious woman to stop a blood-thirsty tyrant. It has guaranteed coverage on the Tribune stations, so it will air in the major U.S. markets. Straight fantasy has never done well on the tube, but campy fantasy has. It remains to be seen which this will be. So there we have it, the new genre series coming to our TV in the next 12 or so months. This
[scifinoir2] SyFy 101: I Robot? Not Exactly
By DAN COMPORA Source: SyFy Portal Feb-21-2008 Growing up during the 1970s, I watched Lost In Space with the same fervor that children today get absorbed in Spongebob Squarepants. Fascinated by The Robot, I tried building my own. Discarded boxes and duct tape were often the building blocks for my creations, but my crowning achievement in adolescent robotics was a miniature R2-D2, made out of a D-cell battery, a roll-on deodorant lid, and blue and white electrical tape. Needless to say, my creations only looked like robots and didn't function -- it's not surprising why I became an English professor. The symbiotic relationship between people and machines is a popular topic in science-fiction, and robots and humans have been connected since the concept of artificial life was first imagined. The connection is so strong that Isaac Asimov permanently joined them in the Three Laws of Robotics, made famous in I, Robot. Inevitably, a marriage of man and machine would yield a creation resembling both parties. The robots of yesteryear were infused with modern technology yet imbued with humanistic personality traits. This trend wasn't always positive. I've spent the better part of three decades trying to forget Twiki from the poorly conceived Buck Rogers in the 25th Century. Not even the vocal talents of legendary cartoon master Mel Blanc could save this anthropomorphic disaster. Modern robotics has evolved in a fashion quite different from what speculative artists depicted. While robots, androids and cybernetic organisms still dot the science-fiction landscape, the idea of humanoid robots has been replaced, in reality, by a reliance on small, personal electronic devices. My boys have adopted my interest in science-fiction, but not my interest in robots; I'm the only one who plays with our Robosapien. Growing up, machines were external to my existence. I never felt a relationship with my alarm clock or stereo. Yet people today have the ability to merge their personality with their machines. They personalize computers with photos, sounds and movies. Cell phones and iPods become an extension of self, depending on which faceplates, ringtones and pictures are selected. Robots and androids with personalities are independent creatures, though like us, remain separate from us. The personalization of electronic devices serves as an extension of personal identity. Despite this trend in reality, the concept of humanoid machines remains alive on television. In Battlestar Galactica, the line between Cylon and human is so imperceptible that it took three seasons to identify the remaining Cylons. In 'The Sarah Connor Chronicles, Sarah has to become more like a machine to perform actions that better serve mankind, while selected cyborgs become more human as they evolve. Both series blur the line between humanity and machines, with great effect. In each case, cybernetic organisms are designed to infiltrate human colonies, bringing about their destruction. Sometimes, the attempt to mingle human characteristics with machine technology produced interesting but inefficient results. The Lost In Space robot stood 7 feet, had pinchers for hands, and arms resembling dryer vent coils. The hydraulics to operate the legs alone may have weighed a ton. For a robot designed to test atmospheric conditions and analyze soil samples, the awkward inclusion of hands and arms served little purpose. Consider what the Mars Pathfinder's robot, Rover, has accomplished with a more compact design. The ovular globe that was the Lost In Space robot's head served no apparent purpose, except to allow Dr. Smith to call him a bubble-headed booby. His mouth also was disproportionately large. Assuming it was used to transmit Morse code, it could have done so at a fraction of its size. That's not to say the robot was a total design failure. The Department of Energy would surely love to possess the power packs that powered the robot. The human body is an elaborate self-running organism, but the design doesn't always translate well to robotics. Data, the android on Star Trek: The Next Generation and the Cylons on Battlestar Galactica represent the high end of this spectrum, illustrating the near-perfect marriage between man and machine. But in retrospect, was it necessary for C-3PO of Star Wars to have a humanoid appearance? As a translator and protocol droid, C-3PO's head was the only necessary component. When C-3PO was nearly destroyed in The Empire Strikes Back, he still performed his primary duties once his head was re-attached to his torso, which presumably held the power supply. C-3PO's movements were slow and herky-jerky at best. Considering the tasks he performed, C-3PO was designed quite inefficiently. Of course, a humanoid appearance makes robotic characters life-like, therefore it's easier to think of them as characters. By definition, an android resembles humanity and possesses
[scifinoir2] Bad Movies Conferssion Time Re: Jumper - SPOILER ALERT!!!!!!
So gang. It seems like it is a given that some us go to or rent movies we pretty much knoware going to be bad. So lets make it a confession time and open up about other bad flicks we saw knowing they were going to to be bad. I have to think on it, but most recently, I saw Wild Hogs. Don't kick me off the list, but I thought the first half was hilarious. I watched a really bad one star movie, Cyber Wars also known as Avatar or Matrix Hunter. It starred Joseph Lau, David Warner (Jack the Ripper, Hog Father), and Joan Chen (twin Peaks) The Plot: In the near future in the Asian city-state Sintawan, everyone's identity is recorded in the vast CyberLink. The only way around this is using illegal simulated identity implants (sims). A young bounty hunter who makes her living tracking sims, finds herself the unlikely ally of a police detective who suspects the CyberLink is being perverted for an insidious and deadly purpose Okay, your turn tracey --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Give 'em time, Tracey. Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I saw it. It definitely was not theater worthy, but I think it would be a great TV show. I love the teleportation concept and some of the mythology and laws were good too. Unfortunately, it came across like a pilot movie for a scifi tv show. To mad it is not a tv series ravenadal wrote: To me, teleportation has always been the coolest of all superpowers. Couple it with a proximity sense, keen hearing (so you can hear when a shot is fired and teleport an instant before it gets there), or just plain common sense and you have one heck of a skill set! ~rave! --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, DJ VIBE nehesi@ wrote: On Feb 15, 2008 6:31 PM, ravenadal ravenadal@ wrote: There is a scene in the new Jumper movie (no, I have not seen it) SPOILER ALERT!! where the hero is watching the aftermath of the Hurricane Karina on his television. He gets dressed and teleports...to London, where he has a date. So much for great responsibility coming with great power! It was right in keeping with how his character was established in the movie, although for a moment there I thought he might think of using his abilities for good. Overall, I found the movie pretty good, with one exception. How the hell did the Paladins continually catch jumpers? Its one thing if you get the drop on one, but if you're standing in FRONT of one who is fresh and the jumper sees you and you try to get him with your stun-wand, how are you gonna get him? In less than three minutes, my wife and I came up with several ways to use a teleportation power offesinvely (i.e. teleport in a circle around your opponent a la Nightcrawer. et. al) and in all of those cases we came up with, no normal human would have a chance against a jumper. Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] There is no reason Good can't triumph over Evil, if only angels will get organized along the lines of the Mafia. -Kurt Vonnegut, A Man Without A Country - Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[scifinoir2] China Bans Horror Movies?
China Bans Horror Movies? By Alan Stanley Blair There has been some interesting news about the state of affairs in China with regards to horror movies over the last few months, notably the banning of Will Smith’s apocalyptic drama “I Am Legend.” Well, it looks like that was only the beginning as China has now banned all horror movies altogether. Apparently, the country is planning on cleaning up its image a little before the Beijing Olympics which means horror has now been outlawed. Horror Movies is reporting that Producers have been granted only tree weeks to locate offensive material and turn it in to the authorities. What is classed as offensive? Anything featuring “wronged spirits and violent ghosts, monsters, demons, and other inhuman portrayals, strange and supernatural storytelling for the sole purpose of seeking terror and horror,” the administration said. New entertainment guidelines are being introduced as a way to “control and cleanse the negative effect these items have on society, and to prevent horror, violent, cruel publications from entering the market through official channels and to protect adolescents’ psychological health.” In December when news first hit about the release of “I Am Legend” in the country, sources close to the China Film Group – essentially the Chinese equivalent to Hollywood – insisted that the film was banned not because of any scary or questionable content, but because it is an American movie filmed in America. The organization announced that they were implementing a full ban on all American movies in the country in order to create a bigger market for projects produced by the China Film Group. http://www.rabiddoll.com/index.php?p=316
[scifinoir2] Agent Smith Becomes The Wolfman
With del Toro and Weaving, you know I will be there. Weaving starred in Transformers as the voice of Megatron, as V in V for Vendetta, Elrond, King of The Elves in Lord of the Rings and Agent Smith in The Matrix. In which role did you like him the most? http://www.variety.com/article/VR1117981295.html?categoryId=1970cs=1 'Wolfman'Actor will play detective in Johnston remake By DIANE GARRETT Hugo Weaving will join Benicio Del Toro and Emily Blunt in Universal's upcoming redo of The Wolfman. Weaving, best known for his appearances in The Matrix movies, will play Det. Aberline. Del Toro will play the hirsute title character and Anthony Hopkins his dad. Blunt has been cast as the female lead in the project, which Joe Johnston will direct. Lensing begins next month in London. David Self did a rewrite of Andrew Kevin Walker's script. Pic's produced by Scott Stuber, Mary Parent, Sean Daniel and Rick Yorn. Remake is slated for a Feb. 13 release. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [scifinoir2] News For Martha Jones Fans - Dr. Who/torchwoord
In a message dated 2/22/2008 7:12:33 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: season of Doctor Who, she will have an additional three-episode run on the adult-themed spinoff for BBC Two and BBC America, Torchwood. I love Torchwood. I heard about this on the sci fi channel. I am glad that she is back but I am sad that she is only back for three episodes. I still don't understand what is the big deal with Capt. Jack. He does not seem to be that cold leader his character is supposed to be. It is quite laughable to see him be threatening. **Ideas to please picky eaters. Watch video on AOL Living. (http://living.aol.com/video/how-to-please-your-picky-eater/rachel-campos-duffy/ 2050827?NCID=aolcmp0030002598) [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[scifinoir2] McCain hopes Castro to meet Marx soon
By Jason Szep Fri Feb 22, 11:34 AM ET http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080222/od_uk_nm/oukoe_uk_usa_politics_mccain_castro;_ylt=AmvlgDEPu9NzP1gcKIAEaHztiBIF INDIANAPOLIS (Reuters) - Republican presidential front-runner John McCain suggested on Friday that he hoped retired Cuban leader Fidel Castro would die soon and said Castro's brother will be a worse leader. I hope he has the opportunity to meet Karl Marx very soon, McCain told a town-hall style meeting of about 150 people, referring to communist theoretician Marx who died on March 14, 1883. Castro, 81, announced on Tuesday he was stepping down as president and commander-in-chief of Cuba's armed forces after 49 years in power. His brother Raul Castro is expected to be named Cuba's new head of state on Sunday. Apparently he is trying to groom his brother Raul, McCain said. Raul is worse in many respects than Fidel was. Castro has not appeared in public since undergoing stomach surgery and handing power temporarily to Raul in July 2006. McCain, a four-term Arizona senator, has an almost insurmountable lead over his last major Republican rival, former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee. McCain's approach to Cuba has generally echoed that of U.S. President George W. Bush, who has tightened a decades-long trade embargo and has rejected easing sanctions without a transition to democracy. McCain, who is popular among conservative Cuban-Americans, also has said that if he wins the November 4 U.S. presidential election he would keep up pressure for political change in Cuba's one-party state. That includes a travel ban and trade and financial sanctions enforced a few years after Castro's 1959 revolution on the Caribbean island. McCain, 71, a former prisoner of war in Vietnam, has accused Cubans of participating in the torture of some of his fellow prisoners in Hanoi during the Vietnam War. (To read more about the U.S. political campaign, visit Reuters Tales from the Trail: 2008 online at http://blogs.reuters.com/trail08/) (Editing by Bill Trott) Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[scifinoir2] Bad Movies Confession Time Re: Jumper - SPOILER ALERT!!!!!!
guys sorry. I'm not illiterate. I just play one on the list. I will try not to post so rushed in the future -- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, tdemorsella [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So gang. It seems like it is a given that some us go to or rent movies we pretty much knoware going to be bad. So lets make it a confession time and open up about other bad flicks we saw knowing they were going to to be bad. I have to think on it, but most recently, I saw Wild Hogs. Don't kick me off the list, but I thought the first half was hilarious. I watched a really bad one star movie, Cyber Wars also known as Avatar or Matrix Hunter. It starred Joseph Lau, David Warner (Jack the Ripper, Hog Father), and Joan Chen (twin Peaks) The Plot: In the near future in the Asian city-state Sintawan, everyone's identity is recorded in the vast CyberLink. The only way around this is using illegal simulated identity implants (sims). A young bounty hunter who makes her living tracking sims, finds herself the unlikely ally of a police detective who suspects the CyberLink is being perverted for an insidious and deadly purpose Okay, your turn tracey --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Martin truthseeker_013@ wrote: Give 'em time, Tracey. Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) tdlists@ wrote: I saw it. It definitely was not theater worthy, but I think it would be a great TV show. I love the teleportation concept and some of the mythology and laws were good too. Unfortunately, it came across like a pilot movie for a scifi tv show. To mad it is not a tv series ravenadal wrote: To me, teleportation has always been the coolest of all superpowers. Couple it with a proximity sense, keen hearing (so you can hear when a shot is fired and teleport an instant before it gets there), or just plain common sense and you have one heck of a skill set! ~rave! --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, DJ VIBE nehesi@ wrote: On Feb 15, 2008 6:31 PM, ravenadal ravenadal@ wrote: There is a scene in the new Jumper movie (no, I have not seen it) SPOILER ALERT!! where the hero is watching the aftermath of the Hurricane Karina on his television. He gets dressed and teleports...to London, where he has a date. So much for great responsibility coming with great power! It was right in keeping with how his character was established in the movie, although for a moment there I thought he might think of using his abilities for good. Overall, I found the movie pretty good, with one exception. How the hell did the Paladins continually catch jumpers? Its one thing if you get the drop on one, but if you're standing in FRONT of one who is fresh and the jumper sees you and you try to get him with your stun-wand, how are you gonna get him? In less than three minutes, my wife and I came up with several ways to use a teleportation power offesinvely (i.e. teleport in a circle around your opponent a la Nightcrawer. et. al) and in all of those cases we came up with, no normal human would have a chance against a jumper. Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] There is no reason Good can't triumph over Evil, if only angels will get organized along the lines of the Mafia. -Kurt Vonnegut, A Man Without A Country - Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [scifinoir2] Weapons Screening Stopped at Obama Rally
Indeed, B. I'm speechless. Bosco Bosco [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We have officially moved into F'd up and totally scary spooky. Bosco --- Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Original Message Subject: Police concerned about order to stop weapons screening at Obama rally Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 09:37:56 -0800 From: Chris de Morsella [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Tracey de Morsella [EMAIL PROTECTED], 'julia demorsella' [EMAIL PROTECTED], 'paul demorsella' [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.star-telegram.com/dallas_news/story/486413.html *Police concerned about order to stop weapons screening at Obama rally* *By JACK DOUGLAS Jr.* *Star-Telegram Staff Writer* Barack Obama speaks Wednesday at a Democratic rally in Dallas' Reunion Arena. Police were told to stop screening people for weapons before the rally began. http://media.star-telegram.com/smedia/2008/02/21/05/416-324450-268988.standalone.prod_affiliate.58.jpg STAR-TELEGRAM/RODGER MALLISON Barack Obama speaks Wednesday at a Democratic rally in Dallas' Reunion Arena. Police were told to stop screening people for weapons before the rally began. DALLAS -- Security details at Barack Obama's rally Wednesday stopped screening people for weapons at the front gates more than an hour before the Democratic presidential candidate took the stage at Reunion Arena. The order to put down the metal detectors and stop checking purses and laptop bags came as a surprise to several Dallas police officers who said they believed it was a lapse in security. Dallas Deputy Police Chief T.W. Lawrence, head of the Police Department's homeland security and special operations divisions, said the order -- apparently made by the U.S. Secret Service -- was meant to speed up the long lines outside and fill the arena's vacant seats before Obama came on. Sure, said Lawrence, when asked if he was concerned by the great number of people who had gotten into the building without being checked. But, he added, the turnout of more than 17,000 people seemed to be a friendly crowd. The Secret Service did not return a call from the //Star-Telegram// seeking comment. Doors opened to the public at 10 a.m., and for the first hour security officers scanned each person who came in and checked their belongings in a process that kept movement of the long lines at a crawl. Then, about 11 a.m., an order came down to allow the people in without being checked. Several Dallas police officers said it worried them that the arena was packed with people who got in without even a cursory inspection. They spoke on condition of anonymity because, they said, the order was made by federal officials who were in charge of security at the event. How can you not be concerned in this day and age, said one policeman. JACK DOUGLAS Jr., 817-390-7700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links I got friends who are in prison and Friends who are dead. I'm gonna tell ya something that I've often said. You know these things that happen, That's just the way it's supposed to be. And I can't help but wonder, Don't ya know it coulda been me. __ Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping There is no reason Good can't triumph over Evil, if only angels will get organized along the lines of the Mafia. -Kurt Vonnegut, A Man Without A Country - Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[scifinoir2] Fwd: In the Year 2012
Dale! Weren't you just writing about that? - Mike Myles http://starships-rpg.com/enlist.php?recruiter=Toronto http://starships-rpg.com/enlist.php?recruiter=Toronto --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, ravenadal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2012 is sometimes claimed to be a great year of spiritual transformation (or apocalypse). Many esoteric sources interpret the completion of the thirteenth B'ak'tun cycle in the Long Count of the Maya calendar (which occurs on December 21 by the most widely held correlation) to mean there will be a major change in world order. Accordingly, several eclectic authors claim that a major, world- changing event will take place in 2012: NASA predicts that the Sun will reverse its own magnetic poles during 2012 as result of reaching the end of the current 11- year sunspot cycle. The 1995 book The Mayan Prophecies linked the Maya calendar with long-period sunspot cycles. The book 2012: Mayan Year of Destiny claims the Maya may have been instructed in their wisdom by disembodied entities from Orion and the Pleiades. Contact was maintained through shamanic rituals conducted in accordance with the movements of planets and stars. However, some Mayan priests living and working in Guatemala assert that there is no legitimacy to this theory. The 1997 book The Bible Code claims that, according to certain algorithms of the Bible code, a meteor, asteroid or comet will collide with the Earth. The book The Nostradamus Code speaks of a series of natural disasters caused by a comet (possibly as above) that will allow the third Antichrist to disperse his troops around the globe under the guise of aid in preparation for a possible nuclear war, although in the strictest sense it is unspecific as to nuclear war or some other natural or man caused destruction. The book The Orion Prophecy claims that the Earth's magnetic field will reverse. The 2005 book Beyond 2012: Catastrophe or Ecstasy by Geoff Stray reviews several theories, prophecies and predictions concerning 2012 and finds where authors have used faulty information or have bent the truth to fit their theories. The 2006 book 2012: The Return of Quetzalcoatl by Daniel Pinchbeck discusses theories of a possible global awakening to psychic connection by the year 2012, creating a noosphere. The 2007 book Apocalypse 2012: A Scientific Investigation into Civilization's End by Lawrence Joseph does not make any specific new predictions, but it reviews a number of 2012 predictions made by various sources, and presents arguments for the possible existence of dangerous positive feedback loops involving solar storms, Earth's magnetic field, cosmic rays, hurricanes, global warming, earthquakes, and supervolcanoes that may be on the verge of erupting. Other prophecies and apocalyptic writings and hypotheses for this year include: Terence McKenna's numerological novelty theory suggests a point of singularity in which humankind will go through a great shift in consciousness. Some proponents of a peak oil catastrophe place major events in 2012. Richard C. Duncan's book The Peak of World Oil Production and the Road To The Olduvai Gorge claims that the Olduvai cliff will begin and permanent blackouts will occur worldwide. Several studies predict a peak in oil production in or around 2012. --- End forwarded message --- [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [scifinoir2] It's Over for Jericho
Nuts. JJ Mohareb On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 7:13 PM, Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sources: 'Jericho' To Wrap It Up By MICHAEL HINMAN Source: SyFy Portal Feb-21-2008 It looks like the Jericho experiment is about to come to an end. Sources have told SyFy Portal that CBS is gearing up to air the series finale version of the post-apocalyptic series on March 25, one of two endings shot that would either allow a cliffhanger going into a third season, or a proper amount of closure for Jericho fans who fought hard to force CBS to reconsider its previous decision to cancel the show. There are a lot of people here who really care about what happens to 'Jericho,' and I think we all wanted to see it succeed, the source, who asked not to be identified, said. Numbers are numbers, and [CBS] had to do what [CBS] had to do. Ratings for the first two episodes were well below even some of the worst numbers the show experienced at the end of the first season which helped prompt network officials to move toward cancellation. Although it is competing in a post-American Idol scheduling environment, Jericho struggled to compete with shows that were either in reruns, or not part of mainstream viewing habits. At the same time, audiences in key demographics of 18 to 49 -- a demo that isn't typically attracted to CBS for many of its other programmings -- were noticeably absent from the first pair of viewings from the show, and there is little chance they'll suddenly return in the coming weeks. But the decision isn't quite final yet ... network executives still have room to change their mind. If the audience can come back to the show in the next two episodes, and I mean a lot, [CBS] may reconsider, the source said. Fans definitely have a say, and they had a say last summer [with the 'Nuts to Jericho' campaign], but I think the final decision this time is going to come down to hard numbers, and they're just not there for 'Jericho.' Please note that none of this has been confirmed by CBS, and should be treated as any rumor would. Jericho airs Tuesdays at 10 p.m. ET on CBS. http://www.syfyportal.com/news424744.html -- Read the Bitter Guide to the Bitter Guy. http://thebitterguy.livejournal.com
Re: [scifinoir2] Bionic Woman Laid to Rest
i often have this silly fantasy that a really rich billionaire could create a cable channel and fund shows that draw small-but-dedicated audiences for their quality. In this fantasy world, the billionaire would underwrite shows like Threshold, John Doe, Odyssey 5, Space: Above and Beyond, The Dresden Files, Karen Sisco. We'd get another season of Exo-Squad and Samurai Jack. The like of Coto would get a chance to really see their projects to fruition. Frank's Place would return. Yeah, yeah, a fantasy indeed. No one would do that, and even if they did, the backer would likely not have the same taste as mine, and still cancel good shows. But in a world where billionaires buy boats big as apartment complexes and fund science fiction halls of fame, i can dream, can't i??? -- Original message -- From: Lockhart, Daryle [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jason Cahill and Manny Coto should do a show together. They are both great at saving failed projects. On Fri, 22 Feb 2008 11:26:42 -0500, Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's now official: The Commander in Chief award for the most spectacular freshman flame-out of the 07-08 TV season goes to... Bionic Woman! Although NBC isn't talking, I'm told by multiple sources that Bionic staffers were informed late last week that the troubled reboot has indeed been canceled. That means no spring relaunch under new show-runner Jason Cahill â which is too bad. Cahill's a talented guy (see: The Sopranos), and I was anxious to see what he would do with the show. But I guess it wasn't meant to be. At least now the first stage of grief can get under way. No, not shock â the snarky postmortem! What do you think felled Bionic Woman in the end? Was it the lackluster pilot? The absence of a clear, creative vision? Not enough Starbuck? Too much Isaiah Washington? All of the above? Sound off in the comments section below! http://community.tvguide.com/blog/TVGuide-Editors-Blog/Ausiello-Report/70049 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [scifinoir2] It's Over for Jericho
I posted an e-mail the day the show was returning, then posted a follow up asking if anyone here was watching. Only one reply, and that was from Gymfig, who doesn't watch the show at all. Is anyone here watching it? I also have to repeat my complaint at CBS' not showing the entire series again in the weeks leading up to the return. That irritates me. I watched the whole series, but missed the last three eps and didn't want to watch them on my laptop. I was waiting and waiting, just *knowing* that CBS would rerun the series again, in order to build up more interest. But they didn't. I guess they were too busy selling it to SciFi. I don't get that strategy. ABC did the same thing with Lost, which is maddening. Too bad. Maybe my fantasy billionaire will pick up the show! :) -- Original message -- From: Justin Mohareb [EMAIL PROTECTED] Nuts. JJ Mohareb On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 7:13 PM, Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sources: 'Jericho' To Wrap It Up By MICHAEL HINMAN Source: SyFy Portal Feb-21-2008 It looks like the Jericho experiment is about to come to an end. Sources have told SyFy Portal that CBS is gearing up to air the series finale version of the post-apocalyptic series on March 25, one of two endings shot that would either allow a cliffhanger going into a third season, or a proper amount of closure for Jericho fans who fought hard to force CBS to reconsider its previous decision to cancel the show. There are a lot of people here who really care about what happens to 'Jericho,' and I think we all wanted to see it succeed, the source, who asked not to be identified, said. Numbers are numbers, and [CBS] had to do what [CBS] had to do. Ratings for the first two episodes were well below even some of the worst numbers the show experienced at the end of the first season which helped prompt network officials to move toward cancellation. Although it is competing in a post-American Idol scheduling environment, Jericho struggled to compete with shows that were either in reruns, or not part of mainstream viewing habits. At the same time, audiences in key demographics of 18 to 49 -- a demo that isn't typically attracted to CBS for many of its other programmings -- were noticeably absent from the first pair of viewings from the show, and there is little chance they'll suddenly return in the coming weeks. But the decision isn't quite final yet ... network executives still have room to change their mind. If the audience can come back to the show in the next two episodes, and I mean a lot, [CBS] may reconsider, the source said. Fans definitely have a say, and they had a say last summer [with the 'Nuts to Jericho' campaign], but I think the final decision this time is going to come down to hard numbers, and they're just not there for 'Jericho.' Please note that none of this has been confirmed by CBS, and should be treated as any rumor would. Jericho airs Tuesdays at 10 p.m. ET on CBS. http://www.syfyportal.com/news424744.html -- Read the Bitter Guide to the Bitter Guy. http://thebitterguy.livejournal.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Jumper - SPOILER ALERT!!!!!!
that's good to know. i unfortunately can argue and debate for hours, literally, if really passionate about something. My wife and I are admittedly both a bit sensitive and stubborn, so we can go for a while. I long ago learned to figure out when it's time to just leave the discussion for a while in order to go somewhere and cool down, then come back and talk. If she's being recalcitrant or even hurtful, I have to make an effort to remind myself she's not intentionally hurting me, and once i can remember that, i can discuss things more rationally. Same with her. I have a really bad temper, which i'm sure is genetically inherited from my birth mom, so I have to be sure not to take stuff personally too quickly. Combine that with my love for talking and my desire to understand all sides of an issue, and whoo boy! Back when i was home for my mother's funeral, my older brother jumped me about a comment I made about Mom that he felt was disrespectful. That led to all kinds of stuff being aired in a five hour discussion from 1 am to sunrise. At the end, he was amazed that I was still able to discuss and debate with vigor, though dead on my feet. -- Original message -- From: Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] We fight now and then. Its rarely serious. It happens with two people who both are right :). One of the reasons I married him, is he does not like prolonged battles nor misunderstandings. I'm the same way, I hope. When I came home, we talked and made up. We are cool. thanks for asking :) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: thanks, that helps a great bit. Yout two cool now? -- Original message -- From: Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Actually, that is why I did it. Chris and I had a fight. When that happens, we try to walk away and come back together after we cool off. I needed to kill a few hours, and take my mind off stuff, so I drove up to the theater. Jumper was about to start, so I chose it. It took my mind off of stuff. I know you got more serious stuff going on, but it is just what the doctor ordered. I went with very low expectations so I enjoyed it and went home to make up with Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i've had several people tell me to stay away from this movie at all costs. But I really need a fun time waster to take my mind off some things. Is it at least a good popcorn flick Phyllis and I can lose ourselves in for a couple of hours without feeling regret? -- Original message -- From: Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] I saw it. It definitely was not theater worthy, but I think it would be a great TV show. I love the teleportation concept and some of the mythology and laws were good too. Unfortunately, it came across like a pilot movie for a scifi tv show. To mad it is not a tv series ravenadal wrote: To me, teleportation has always been the coolest of all superpowers. Couple it with a proximity sense, keen hearing (so you can hear when a shot is fired and teleport an instant before it gets there), or just plain common sense and you have one heck of a skill set! ~rave! --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, DJ VIBE [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Feb 15, 2008 6:31 PM, ravenadal ravenadal@ wrote: There is a scene in the new Jumper movie (no, I have not seen it) SPOILER ALERT!! where the hero is watching the aftermath of the Hurricane Karina on his television. He gets dressed and teleports...to London, where he has a date. So much for great responsibility coming with great power! It was right in keeping with how his character was established in the movie, although for a moment there I thought he might think of using his abilities for good. Overall, I found the movie pretty good, with one exception. How the hell did the Paladins continually catch jumpers? Its one thing if you get the drop on one, but if you're standing in FRONT of one who is fresh and the jumper sees you and you try to get him with your stun-wand, how are you gonna get him? In less than three minutes, my wife and I came up with several ways to use a teleportation power offesinvely (i.e. teleport in a circle around your opponent a la Nightcrawer. et. al) and in all of those cases we came up with, no normal human would have a chance against a jumper. Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text
