Re: [scifinoir2] Bionic Woman Laid to Rest

2008-02-23 Thread Martin
Keith, again we're on the same wavelength.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i often have this silly fantasy that a really rich 
billionaire could create a cable channel and fund shows that draw 
small-but-dedicated audiences for their quality. In this fantasy world, the 
billionaire would underwrite shows like Threshold, John Doe, Odyssey 5, 
Space: Above and Beyond, The Dresden Files, Karen Sisco.  We'd get 
another season of Exo-Squad and Samurai Jack.  The like of Coto would get a 
chance to really see their projects to fruition. 

Frank's Place would return.

Yeah, yeah, a fantasy indeed. No one would do that, and even if they did, the 
backer would likely not have the same taste as mine, and still cancel good 
shows.  But in a world where billionaires buy boats big as apartment complexes 
and fund science fiction halls of fame, i can dream, can't i???

-- Original message -- 
From: Lockhart, Daryle  

Jason Cahill and Manny Coto should do a show together. They are both great 
at saving failed projects.

On Fri, 22 Feb 2008 11:26:42 -0500, Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. 
Minor)  wrote:

 It's now official: The Commander in Chief award for the most spectacular
 freshman flame-out of the 07-08 TV season goes to... Bionic Woman!

 Although NBC isn't talking, I'm told by multiple sources that Bionic
 staffers were informed late last week that the troubled reboot has
 indeed been canceled. That means no spring relaunch under new
 show-runner Jason Cahill — which is too bad. Cahill's a talented guy
 (see: The Sopranos), and I was anxious to see what he would do with the
 show. But I guess it wasn't meant to be.

 At least now the first stage of grief can get under way. No, not shock —
 the snarky postmortem! What do you think felled Bionic Woman in the end?
 Was it the lackluster pilot? The absence of a clear, creative vision?
 Not enough Starbuck? Too much Isaiah Washington? All of the above? Sound
 off in the comments section below!
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Re: [scifinoir2] Bad Movies Confession Time Re: Jumper - SPOILER ALERT!!!!!!

2008-02-23 Thread Martin
Tracey, the only people on this planet who speak or write English, IMO, *are* 
the English.

tdemorsella [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:   guys 
sorry.  I'm not illiterate.  I just play one on the list.  I will
 try not to post so rushed in the future
 
 -- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, tdemorsella [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  So gang.  It seems like it is a given that some us go to or rent
  movies we pretty much knoware going to be bad.  So lets make it a
  confession time and open up about other bad flicks we saw knowing they
  were going to to be bad.  
  
  I have to think on it, but most recently, I saw Wild Hogs.  Don't kick
  me off the list, but I thought the first half was hilarious.  I
  watched a really bad one star movie, Cyber Wars also known as Avatar
  or  Matrix Hunter.  It starred Joseph Lau, David Warner (Jack the
  Ripper, Hog Father), and Joan Chen (twin Peaks) The Plot: In the near
  future in the Asian city-state Sintawan, everyone's identity is
  recorded in the vast CyberLink. The only way around this is using
  illegal simulated identity implants (sims). A young bounty hunter who
  makes her living tracking sims, finds herself the unlikely ally of a
  police detective who suspects the CyberLink is being perverted for an
  insidious and deadly purpose
  
  Okay, your turn
  
  tracey
  
  --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Martin truthseeker_013@ wrote:
  
   Give 'em time, Tracey.
   
   Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) tdlists@ wrote:
I saw it.  It definitely was not theater
  worthy, but I think it would be 
a great TV show.  I love the teleportation concept and some of the 
mythology and laws were good too.  Unfortunately, it came across
  like a 
pilot movie for a scifi tv show.   To mad it is not a tv series

ravenadal wrote:
 To me, teleportation has always been the coolest of all
  superpowers.  
 Couple it with a proximity sense, keen hearing (so you can hear 
 when a shot is fired and teleport an instant before it gets
 there), 
 or just plain common sense and you have one heck of a skill set!

 ~rave!

 --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, DJ VIBE nehesi@ wrote:
   
  
 
  On Feb 15, 2008 6:31 PM, ravenadal ravenadal@ wrote:
  
  
   There is a scene in the new Jumper movie (no, I have not seen 
   
 it)
 
  
SPOILER

   
 ALERT!!
   
  
where the hero is watching the aftermath of the Hurricane 
   
 Karina on
 
his television. He gets dressed and teleports...to London, 
   
 where he
 
has a date. So much for great responsibility coming with 
   
 great 
   
 power!
 
  
   
 It was right in keeping with how his character was established in 
 the movie, although for a moment there I thought he might
 think of 
 using his abilities for good.  

 Overall, I found the movie pretty good, with one exception.  How 
 
 the 
   
 hell did the Paladins continually catch jumpers?  Its one
 thing if 
 you get the drop on one, but if you're standing in FRONT of
 one who 
 is fresh and the jumper sees you and you try to get him with your 
 stun-wand, how are you gonna get him?  In less than three
 minutes, 
 my wife and I came up with several ways to use a teleportation 
 
 power 
   
 offesinvely (i.e. teleport in a circle around your opponent a la 
 Nightcrawer. et. al) and in all of those cases we came up
 with, no 
 normal human would have a chance against a jumper.

 




  
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Re: [scifinoir2] McCain hopes Castro to meet Marx soon

2008-02-23 Thread Martin
John McCain, USNA '58. We're so proud of him. :P

Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: By 
Jason Szep Fri Feb 22, 11:34 AM ET
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080222/od_uk_nm/oukoe_uk_usa_politics_mccain_castro;_ylt=AmvlgDEPu9NzP1gcKIAEaHztiBIF
INDIANAPOLIS (Reuters) - Republican presidential front-runner John 
McCain suggested on Friday that he hoped retired Cuban leader Fidel 
Castro would die soon and said Castro's brother will be a worse leader.


I hope he has the opportunity to meet Karl Marx very soon, McCain told 
a town-hall style meeting of about 150 people, referring to communist 
theoretician Marx who died on March 14, 1883.

Castro, 81, announced on Tuesday he was stepping down as president and 
commander-in-chief of Cuba's armed forces after 49 years in power. His 
brother Raul Castro is expected to be named Cuba's new head of state on 
Sunday.

Apparently he is trying to groom his brother Raul, McCain said. Raul 
is worse in many respects than Fidel was.

Castro has not appeared in public since undergoing stomach surgery and 
handing power temporarily to Raul in July 2006.

McCain, a four-term Arizona senator, has an almost insurmountable lead 
over his last major Republican rival, former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee.

McCain's approach to Cuba has generally echoed that of U.S. President 
George W. Bush, who has tightened a decades-long trade embargo and has 
rejected easing sanctions without a transition to democracy.

McCain, who is popular among conservative Cuban-Americans, also has said 
that if he wins the November 4 U.S. presidential election he would keep 
up pressure for political change in Cuba's one-party state.

That includes a travel ban and trade and financial sanctions enforced a 
few years after Castro's 1959 revolution on the Caribbean island.

McCain, 71, a former prisoner of war in Vietnam, has accused Cubans of 
participating in the torture of some of his fellow prisoners in Hanoi 
during the Vietnam War.

(To read more about the U.S. political campaign, visit Reuters Tales 
from the Trail: 2008 online at http://blogs.reuters.com/trail08/)

(Editing by Bill Trott)


 
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Re: [scifinoir2] News For Martha Jones Fans - Dr. Who/torchwoord

2008-02-23 Thread Martin
Gymfig, the BBC is capitalizing on her unexpected popularity by split-tining 
her between Torchwood and DW. She'll be in those eps on Torchwood, then 
return to be the Doctor's co-companion with Catherine Tate for the rest of S4.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 In a message dated 2/22/2008 7:12:33 PM Eastern Standard Time, 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
 season of Doctor Who, she will have an additional three-episode run on 
 the adult-themed spinoff for BBC Two and BBC America, Torchwood.
 
 I love Torchwood. I heard about this on the sci fi channel. I am glad that 
 she is back but I am sad that she is only back for three episodes. 
  
  
 I still don't understand what is the big deal with Capt. Jack. He does not 
 seem to be that cold leader his character is supposed to be. It is quite 
 laughable to see him be threatening. 
 
 **Ideas to please picky eaters. Watch video on AOL Living.  
 
(http://living.aol.com/video/how-to-please-your-picky-eater/rachel-campos-duffy/
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Re: [scifinoir2] China Bans Horror Movies?

2008-02-23 Thread Martin
China's rush toward the future is moving steadily in reverse. As for them 
banning horror movies, I can see that. Life in China itself is a horror movie, 
unless you're one of the privileged.

Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  
 China Bans Horror Movies?
 
 By Alan Stanley Blair
 
 There has been some interesting news about the state of affairs in China 
 with regards to horror movies over the last few months, notably the 
 banning of Will Smith’s apocalyptic drama “I Am Legend.” Well, it looks 
 like that was only the beginning as China has now banned all horror 
 movies altogether.
 
 Apparently, the country is planning on cleaning up its image a little 
 before the Beijing Olympics which means horror has now been outlawed. 
 Horror Movies is reporting that Producers have been granted only tree 
 weeks to locate offensive material and turn it in to the authorities.
 
 What is classed as offensive? Anything featuring “wronged spirits and 
 violent ghosts, monsters, demons, and other inhuman portrayals, strange 
 and supernatural storytelling for the sole purpose of seeking terror and 
 horror,” the administration said.
 
 New entertainment guidelines are being introduced as a way to “control 
 and cleanse the negative effect these items have on society, and to 
 prevent horror, violent, cruel publications from entering the market 
 through official channels and to protect adolescents’ psychological 
health.”
 
 In December when news first hit about the release of “I Am Legend” in 
 the country, sources close to the China Film Group – essentially the 
 Chinese equivalent to Hollywood – insisted that the film was banned not 
 because of any scary or questionable content, but because it is an 
 American movie filmed in America. The organization announced that they 
 were implementing a full ban on all American movies in the country in 
 order to create a bigger market for projects produced by the China Film 
 Group.
 
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Re: [scifinoir2] China Bans Horror Movies?

2008-02-23 Thread Martin
Add on to previous, Why would they need competition?

Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  
 China Bans Horror Movies?
 
 By Alan Stanley Blair
 
 There has been some interesting news about the state of affairs in China 
 with regards to horror movies over the last few months, notably the 
 banning of Will Smith’s apocalyptic drama “I Am Legend.” Well, it looks 
 like that was only the beginning as China has now banned all horror 
 movies altogether.
 
 Apparently, the country is planning on cleaning up its image a little 
 before the Beijing Olympics which means horror has now been outlawed. 
 Horror Movies is reporting that Producers have been granted only tree 
 weeks to locate offensive material and turn it in to the authorities.
 
 What is classed as offensive? Anything featuring “wronged spirits and 
 violent ghosts, monsters, demons, and other inhuman portrayals, strange 
 and supernatural storytelling for the sole purpose of seeking terror and 
 horror,” the administration said.
 
 New entertainment guidelines are being introduced as a way to “control 
 and cleanse the negative effect these items have on society, and to 
 prevent horror, violent, cruel publications from entering the market 
 through official channels and to protect adolescents’ psychological 
health.”
 
 In December when news first hit about the release of “I Am Legend” in 
 the country, sources close to the China Film Group – essentially the 
 Chinese equivalent to Hollywood – insisted that the film was banned not 
 because of any scary or questionable content, but because it is an 
 American movie filmed in America. The organization announced that they 
 were implementing a full ban on all American movies in the country in 
 order to create a bigger market for projects produced by the China Film 
 Group.
 
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Re: [scifinoir2] What's Coming Up In Genre TV?

2008-02-23 Thread Martin
Left left one out. (Pun utterly intended, and welcome.)

There's a series slated to air on AE later this year, called Cleaner. It 
stars Benjamin Bratt, once of Law  Order, playing a guy who dies of a drug 
overdose after he loses his son, and is resurrected to help others beat their 
addictions, by any means necessary.

http://www.variety.com/article/VR1117980708.html?categoryid=14cs=1

Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: By 
ED LEFT
Source: SyFy Portal
Feb-18-2008

The Writers Guild of America strike has ended, and the networks are 
making their plans for the remainder of the season and beyond. And 
because of the strike, we didn't have a normal pilot season.

Instead, the networks started ordering series directly instead of 
ordering a pilot, or even ordered foreign series.

Here's a look at the new series coming to your screens in the next 
twelve months or so.

Dollhouse will air on Fox, was created and produced by Joss Whedon, 
and stars Eliza Dushku. It's about men and women imprinted with 
different personalities and skills for different assignments, and then 
having those personalities wiped clean when the assignment is completed.

When between assignments, they live like children in the Dollhouse, 
their dormitory/laboratory. They live with no memories of which they 
are, until Echo, played by Dushku, begins to remember.

I like the concept behind this show. If it was airing on a cable 
network, I think we'd have a winner. However, it will be airing on Fox.

Joss Whedon is a genre fan favorite, but let's face it, he hasn't really 
had a hit show. Although Buffy the Vampire Slayer and Angel had long 
runs, they ran on minor netlets. Neither show would have lasted on a 
major network. Firefly did air on a major network, and it was a 
ratings failure.

Dushku previously starred in genre series Tru Calling, and it also 
failed in the ratings. Combining Whedon, Dushku and Fox does not spell 
success. I think we'll only see the seven episodes contracted, if that.

Fear Itself, a horror anthology from NBC, promises be much like 
Showtime's Masters of Horror, providing 60-minute telefilms by name 
horror writers and directors. Anthologies don't work on network 
television anymore. This one is doomed before it starts.

The Listener is being produced by CTV in Canada, and has been bought 
by NBC to air this coming summer/fall. Paramedic Toby Logan, played by 
Craig Olejnik, has the power to listen to people's most intimate thoughts.

With the help of his friend and partner Osman Bey (Ennis Esmer), they 
save lives and solve mysteries. Borrowing from Heroes, they take the 
most lame of abilities and build a show around it. It could work, but it 
would depend on the strength of the writing and the acting.

  I don't hold out much hope.

Middleman from writer-producer Javier Grillo-Marxuach of Lost fame, 
stars Natalie Morales as a struggling artist recruited by an agency to 
fight comic-book style villains. Matt Keeslay co-stars as Middleman, her 
superhero guide and mentor.

It's on ABC Family, so expect it to be pointed at the family crowd, and 
it will probably have a Kyle XY look and feel. It seems on ABC Family, 
cast and chemistry is the most important aspect. If they're likeable, 
the show will probably stick around.

Sanctuary, the Web series picked up by the SciFi Channel, stars Amanda 
Tapping as Dr. Helen Magnus. Magnus runs the Sanctuary, which is a home 
to various creatures of myth and legend, who must be tracked down and 
protected. Dr. Will Zimmerman, played by Robin Dunne assists her in her 
quest.

It's cheap to produce, and airs on SciFi. It's a match made in heaven. 
It also has Stargate SG-1 connections, which will bring in a 
ready-made audience. This show could have legs.

Section 8 has been picked up by ABC for a six-episode order. The 
premise is a group of everyday people with advanced neurological 
abnormalities who work for a secret government agency. This sounds like 
a very thinly veiled Heroes homage. Or maybe it's more like Misfits 
of Science? We'll find out.

True Blood is brought to us by HBO, and is based on the Southern 
Vampire book series by Charlaine Harris. It features Sookie Stackhouse, 
played by Anna Paquin, a mind reading barmaid in Louisiana who falls in 
love with vampire Bill Compton, played by Stephen Moyer.

Vampires are no longer a secret, and can feed on a synthetic blood 
developed by the Japanese. It's HBO, so you know they will be spending 
some money on it. But I wonder if vampire fans will tune into another 
vampire series so soon after the demise of Blood Ties and the fate of 
Moonlight still up in the air.

Getting Anna Paquin to star was a good move, and it guarantees I will 
check out the pilot, at least.

Wizard's First Rule is a new first-run syndication series set to air 
this fall. Produced by Spider-Man director Sam Raimi, this series is 
based on the Sword of Truth book series by Terry Goodkind, and 

Re: [scifinoir2] News For Martha Jones Fans - Dr. Who/torchwoord

2008-02-23 Thread Martin
Tracey, I've been told that it is, by folks watching it. I can't, because I'm a 
poor man.

Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  
 anyone here what Torchwood?  Scifi addict that I am, 
you know I have 
 been checking it out. So far, I think this season is better than last 
 season.
 
 Exclusive: 'Torchwood' Hub Means A New Martha
 
 By ALAN STANLEY BLAIR
 Source: SyFy Portal
 Feb-20-2008
 
 This story contains MODERATE SPOILERS for Season 2 of Torchwood and 
 the upcoming fourth season of Doctor Who.
 
 Her name is Martha Jones, and last year she saved the world. But at the 
 end of her 13-episode stint as The Doctor’s companion, BBC bosses 
 announced that Freema Agyeman would be giving up her full-time role on 
 the series to make way for the return of Catherine Tate.
 
 The news both disheartened and elated Martha Jones fans, because 
 although the character will have a reduced part in the upcoming fourth 
 season of Doctor Who, she will have an additional three-episode run on 
 the adult-themed spinoff for BBC Two and BBC America, Torchwood.
 
 This announcement caused quite a media stir within the British press as 
 tabloids had already made a variety of outlandish claims about her 
 future with the series. However, in an exclusive interview with SyFy 
 Portal, Agyeman set the record straight as to why she’ll be stepping 
 into the Hub instead of the Tardis.
 
 The decision was character based 100 percent, Agyeman told SyFy 
 Portal’s Alan Stanley Blair. In this business, no one has to do anyone 
 any favors, and if they weren’t happy, I’d be completely away. The 
 rumors of my departure came five weeks before the press announcement on 
 the future of the series and it happened without any of the facts. I was 
 hugely pleased with the decision to go to ‘Torchwood.’ And gosh, going 
 back to ‘Who’ as well. There was no scandal, no ill feelings in any way. 
 The tabloids put two and two together and came up with five and a half.
 
 So, beginning with the sixth episode of “Torchwood,” the now fully 
 qualified Dr. Martha Jones will take on the weird, the wacky and the 
 paranormal from Cardiff Bay as part of Team Torchwood. But don’t expect 
 to see a darker Martha, especially since the BBC believes she’ll attract 
 a slightly younger audience.
 
 They are very mindful that I’ll be going between the two shows, 
 Agyeman said. We know Martha has a large youth following so we’ve been 
 mindful that we’re not having sex or swearing in case some of the 
 younger fans tune in. Even though there is a pre-watershed edit we can’t 
 control who will tune in.
 
 In the episode, Martha (who is now working for alien specialists UNIT 
 that was established in the original run of Doctor Who) receives a 
 call from Capt. Jack Harkness (John Barrowman) following a string of 
 unexplained deaths. As a UNIT operative, she has also been looking into 
 the events and has more information than Torchwood does making her a 
 valuable asset to solving the case.
 
 There is a really nice arc in those three episodes actually, she 
 said. Jack calls Martha to give them a hand in Episode 6 and because 
 Martha is in UNIT now, she has a little bit more information that he 
 needs. And the consequences of that ends in a great cliff-hanger leading 
 into episode seven so it’s really like a good two-parter. By the end of 
 Episode 8, she’s part of the team. It is a very natural progression of 
 the character that I’m really pleased with.”
 
 Of course, with both shows being such different entities, how much of 
 the old “Doctor Who” dynamic crosses over with Martha? When Barrowman 
 initially returned to “Doctor Who” for its final three episodes last 
 season, we saw a lighter side to him than what was the norm for the 
 Torchwood leader. And Agyeman confirmed that the same holds true for Martha.
 
 “You take this character into a different environment and you wonder how 
 people take to that,” she said. “These are all new experiences for an 
 all-new character in a new environment. She’s harder, more qualified and 
 able to do things alone without looking to The Doctor. She’s very 
 different and she’ll be very different again when she’s about him. 
 Because when you are with different people you behave differently. 
 That’s how I perceived it and that’s how I tried to play it.”
 
 And as a result, fans can only expect a few references to their history 
 over the three-episode arc.
 
 It’s touched on but not discussed -- mostly in a lovely moment between 
 the two characters,” she hinted. “It would be weird if they didn’t talk 
 about it, but the team don’t even know where he [Jack] went when he 
 vanished. In ‘Torchwood’ he is a much more mysterious character and the 
 team aren’t privy to all the details of his past. They don’t know how he 
 knows Martha. But the audience do and so 

Re: [scifinoir2] More Toys Going to Movies - HELP

2008-02-23 Thread Martin
I'm going back to bed now... 8-O

Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No 
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Universal Teams With Hasbro
http://www.scifi.com/scifiwire/index.php?category=0id=48950
Universal Pictures and Hasbro have announced a six-year strategic 
partnership to produce at least four feature films based on some of 
Hasbro's best-known game and toy brands, including Monopoly; Candy Land; 
Clue; Ouija; Battleship; Magic, the Gathering; and Stretch Armstrong, 
according to The Hollywood Reporter.

Hasbro will partner exclusively with Universal for feature films, with 
the exception of Transformers and G.I. Joe, which are already at 
DreamWorks and Paramount.

The first film emerging from the deal will be released in 2010 or 2011, 
and Universal will release at least one film a year after that. Hasbro 
is co-financing script development with Universal and has the option of 
co-funding production of the films. Hasbro will retain all merchandising 
rights to the brands, and the companies will share in consumer products 
revenue generated by the movies.

Shmuger said Universal and Hasbro still are working out which brand will 
be the first project developed, but sources said it's likely to be 
Monopoly or Ouija. Hasbro COO Brian Goldner said Michael Bay and his 
Platinum Dune production company are signed on as producers for a Ouija 
project, and David Berenbaum has signed on to write a draft of a script. 
He said Hasbro is in negotiations with Ridley Scott on Monopoly.

Universal is owned by NBC Universal, which also owns SCIFI.com.


 
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Re: [scifinoir2] Bionic Woman Laid to Rest

2008-02-23 Thread Martin
Welcome to the horror that is my mind... ;D

Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
Yikes!!!

Martin wrote:
 And *there*, Tracey, is where it gets scary. Kristanna Loken, anyone? 8-O

 Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)  wrote:   
 They would have to retool and replace the lead
  
  Martin wrote:
   I'm surprised that Skiffy didn't pick it up, since they're under the 
 NBCUniversal umbrella.
  
   Mike Street  wrote: This is a show that Sci-Fi should buy and produce.
  
   On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 11:26 AM, Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey
   L. Minor)  wrote:
 
  
  
  
  
   It's now official: The Commander in Chief award for the most spectacular
freshman flame-out of the 07-08 TV season goes to... Bionic Woman!
  
Although NBC isn't talking, I'm told by multiple sources that Bionic
staffers were informed late last week that the troubled reboot has
indeed been canceled. That means no spring relaunch under new
show-runner Jason Cahill --- which is too bad. Cahill's a talented guy
(see: The Sopranos), and I was anxious to see what he would do with the
show. But I guess it wasn't meant to be.
  
At least now the first stage of grief can get under way. No, not shock 
 ---
the snarky postmortem! What do you think felled Bionic Woman in the end?
Was it the lackluster pilot? The absence of a clear, creative vision?
Not enough Starbuck? Too much Isaiah Washington? All of the above? Sound
off in the comments section below!
  
   
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Re: [scifinoir2] Bad Movies Conferssion Time Re: Jumper - SPOILER ALERT!!!!!!

2008-02-23 Thread Martin
Okay, I'm in...

Crossworlds, starring a pre-Sports Night Josh Charles, who plays an aimless 
college student who gets picked up at a party by a hot blonde in a mini-skirt. 
(That was the first clue for me.)

Said blonde turns out to be a warrior from another dimension, who's after our 
hero because of a necklace he has, the last thing he has to remember his dead 
father by. 

Said necklace is actually a talisman that can, if wielded properly, allow the 
user to shape the Cosmos to his or her fancy, travel dimensions at will and 
other fun stuff. 

The blonde takes our hero to her mentor, played by Rutger Hauer, whom we're 
*supposed* to see as a famed and nigh-invincible warrior. (I might've bought 
it, if not for the fact that I was in better shape than he was, one lung and 
all.)

Anyhoo, the adventure just speeds- uh, *meanders* along to its utterly 
predictable climax. Watchign it, I was grateful for both the ending and the 
fact that I only paid six bucks for the video.

tdemorsella [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:   So gang.  
It seems like it is a given that some us go to or rent
 movies we pretty much knoware going to be bad.  So lets make it a
 confession time and open up about other bad flicks we saw knowing they
 were going to to be bad.  
 
 I have to think on it, but most recently, I saw Wild Hogs.  Don't kick
 me off the list, but I thought the first half was hilarious.  I
 watched a really bad one star movie, Cyber Wars also known as Avatar
 or  Matrix Hunter.  It starred Joseph Lau, David Warner (Jack the
 Ripper, Hog Father), and Joan Chen (twin Peaks) The Plot: In the near
 future in the Asian city-state Sintawan, everyone's identity is
 recorded in the vast CyberLink. The only way around this is using
 illegal simulated identity implants (sims). A young bounty hunter who
 makes her living tracking sims, finds herself the unlikely ally of a
 police detective who suspects the CyberLink is being perverted for an
 insidious and deadly purpose
 
 Okay, your turn
 
 tracey
 
 --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Give 'em time, Tracey.
  
  Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   I saw it.  It definitely was not theater
 worthy, but I think it would be 
   a great TV show.  I love the teleportation concept and some of the 
   mythology and laws were good too.  Unfortunately, it came across
 like a 
   pilot movie for a scifi tv show.   To mad it is not a tv series
   
   ravenadal wrote:
To me, teleportation has always been the coolest of all
 superpowers.  
Couple it with a proximity sense, keen hearing (so you can hear 
when a shot is fired and teleport an instant before it gets there), 
or just plain common sense and you have one heck of a skill set!
   
~rave!
   
--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, DJ VIBE nehesi@ wrote:
  
 

 On Feb 15, 2008 6:31 PM, ravenadal ravenadal@ wrote:
 
 
  There is a scene in the new Jumper movie (no, I have not seen 
  
it)

 
   SPOILER
   
  
ALERT!!
  
 
   where the hero is watching the aftermath of the Hurricane 
  
Karina on

   his television. He gets dressed and teleports...to London, 
  
where he

   has a date. So much for great responsibility coming with 
  
great 
  
power!

 
  
It was right in keeping with how his character was established in 
the movie, although for a moment there I thought he might think of 
using his abilities for good.  
   
Overall, I found the movie pretty good, with one exception.  How 

the 
  
hell did the Paladins continually catch jumpers?  Its one thing if 
you get the drop on one, but if you're standing in FRONT of one who 
is fresh and the jumper sees you and you try to get him with your 
stun-wand, how are you gonna get him?  In less than three minutes, 
my wife and I came up with several ways to use a teleportation 

power 
  
offesinvely (i.e. teleport in a circle around your opponent a la 
Nightcrawer. et. al) and in all of those cases we came up with, no 
normal human would have a chance against a jumper.
   

   
   
   
   
 
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Re: [scifinoir2] News For Martha Jones Fans - Dr. Who/torchwoord

2008-02-23 Thread Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)
So, Martin, what do you think is the real story?  We heard rumors that 
they are getting rid of her,  They deny them only to tell us that she is 
leaving who to visit Torchwood for three weeks and then return for four 
weeks with the new companion.  Then we hear... no doctor for a year.  
then we hear, Catherine Tate is out as the companion and that Billy 
Piper is in.

You are the Dr. Who expert here.  Can you tell me what you think 
happened? in happening? and what you think will happen. 

and while you are at it, do you know anything about Primeval? 
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0808096/

I read that is is a sort of Torchwood with Dinos.

Martin wrote:
 Gymfig, the BBC is capitalizing on her unexpected popularity by split-tining 
 her between Torchwood and DW. She'll be in those eps on Torchwood, then 
 return to be the Doctor's co-companion with Catherine Tate for the rest of S4.

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  In a message dated 2/22/2008 7:12:33 PM Eastern Standard Time, 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  
  season of Doctor Who, she will have an additional three-episode run on 
  the adult-themed spinoff for BBC Two and BBC America, Torchwood.
  
  I love Torchwood. I heard about this on the sci fi channel. I am glad that 
  she is back but I am sad that she is only back for three episodes. 
   
   
  I still don't understand what is the big deal with Capt. Jack. He does not 
  seem to be that cold leader his character is supposed to be. It is quite 
  laughable to see him be threatening. 
  
  **Ideas to please picky eaters. Watch video on AOL Living.  
  
 (http://living.aol.com/video/how-to-please-your-picky-eater/rachel-campos-duffy/
  2050827?NCID=aolcmp0030002598)
  
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Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Jumper - SPOILER ALERT!!!!!!

2008-02-23 Thread Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)
You guys are not really different than Chris and I.  While we have 
always gone out of our way not to say things that would hurt each other, 
we both can be marathon fighters.  Our circumstances forced us to do 
another way.  We had Kira.  When she was an infant, we would go in 
another room and argue in low tones.  (or at least try to).  But it was 
still good practice with learning not to yell.   Can't say that I have 
mastered it. Then with that horrible situation in Mexico with our lives 
falling apart and both of us getting sick, a couple of things happened.  
We were arguing all the time because of our dire circumstances, she was 
older and harder to keep away from the fray. She could see that I seemed 
to be dying.  She asked me if I was going away sometimes and started 
having nightmares.   I was in so much pain that her normally extremely 
affectionate Mom,  winced  she touched me.  Not a great situation for 
her.  With the situation so bad, we had to do something about what was 
in our control. So we started discussing way to better handle our 
disagreements and to really talk to each other when we were not angry.  
Separating and coming back seemed to be the best way.  Our true nature 
is to come out swinging and win, but in the end you get nothing.  So 
this stepping back approach, while less rewarding in the very short 
term, usually has us talking it out and making up so we can be the 
laughing, teasing, silly and affectionate parents Kira is used to having 
around. 

Sounds like even without a kid around, you guys are working to do the 
same thing.

When are you going to see Jumper? 

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 that's good to know. i unfortunately can argue and debate for hours, 
 literally, if really passionate about something. My wife and I are admittedly 
 both a bit sensitive and stubborn, so we can go for a while. I long ago 
 learned to figure out when it's time to just leave the discussion for a while 
 in order to go somewhere and cool down, then come back and talk. If she's 
 being recalcitrant or even hurtful, I have to make an effort to remind myself 
 she's not intentionally hurting me, and once i can remember that, i can 
 discuss things more rationally. Same with her.

 I have a really bad temper, which i'm sure is genetically inherited from my 
 birth mom, so I have to be sure not to take stuff personally too quickly.  
 Combine that with my love for talking and my desire to understand all sides 
 of an issue, and whoo boy!  Back when i was home for my mother's funeral, my 
 older brother jumped me about a comment I made about Mom that he felt was 
 disrespectful. That led to all kinds of stuff being aired in a five hour 
 discussion from 1 am to sunrise. At the end, he was amazed that I was still 
 able to discuss and debate with vigor, though dead on my feet.

 -- Original message -- 
 From: Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 We fight now and then. Its rarely serious. It happens with two people 
 who both are right :). One of the reasons I married him, is he does 
 not like prolonged battles nor misunderstandings. I'm the same way, I 
 hope. 

 When I came home, we talked and made up. We are cool. thanks for 
 asking :)

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
 thanks, that helps a great bit.
 Yout two cool now?

 -- Original message -- 
 From: Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Actually, that is why I did it. Chris and I had a fight. When that 
 happens, we try to walk away and come back together after we cool off. 
 I needed to kill a few hours, and take my mind off stuff, so I drove up 
 to the theater. Jumper was about to start, so I chose it. It took my 
 mind off of stuff. I know you got more serious stuff going on, but it 
 is just what the doctor ordered. I went with very low expectations so I 
 enjoyed it and went home to make up with Chris

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 i've had several people tell me to stay away from this movie at all costs. 
 But I really need a fun time waster to take my mind off some things. Is it 
 at least a good popcorn flick Phyllis and I can lose ourselves in for a 
 couple of hours without feeling regret?

 -- Original message -- 
 From: Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 I saw it. It definitely was not theater worthy, but I think it would be 
 a great TV show. I love the teleportation concept and some of the 
 mythology and laws were good too. Unfortunately, it came across like a 
 pilot movie for a scifi tv show. To mad it is not a tv series

 ravenadal wrote:


   
 To me, teleportation has always been the coolest of all superpowers. 
 Couple it with a proximity sense, keen hearing (so you can hear 
 when a shot is fired and teleport an instant before it gets there), 
 or just plain common sense and you have one heck of a skill set!

 ~rave!

 --- In 

Re: [scifinoir2] Bionic Woman Laid to Rest

2008-02-23 Thread Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)
Keith, you are making my heart hurt.  Odyssey 5, The Dresden files, 
Franks place and exo-squad in the same sentence.  If only  Don't you 
have Exo-squad on DVD?

Martin wrote:
 Keith, again we're on the same wavelength.

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i often have this silly fantasy that a really rich 
 billionaire could create a cable channel and fund shows that draw 
 small-but-dedicated audiences for their quality. In this fantasy world, the 
 billionaire would underwrite shows like Threshold, John Doe, Odyssey 5, 
 Space: Above and Beyond, The Dresden Files, Karen Sisco.  We'd get 
 another season of Exo-Squad and Samurai Jack.  The like of Coto would get 
 a chance to really see their projects to fruition. 

 Frank's Place would return.

 Yeah, yeah, a fantasy indeed. No one would do that, and even if they did, the 
 backer would likely not have the same taste as mine, and still cancel good 
 shows.  But in a world where billionaires buy boats big as apartment 
 complexes and fund science fiction halls of fame, i can dream, can't i???

 -- Original message -- 
 From: Lockhart, Daryle  

 Jason Cahill and Manny Coto should do a show together. They are both great 
 at saving failed projects.

 On Fri, 22 Feb 2008 11:26:42 -0500, Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. 
 Minor)  wrote:

   
 It's now official: The Commander in Chief award for the most spectacular
 freshman flame-out of the 07-08 TV season goes to... Bionic Woman!

 Although NBC isn't talking, I'm told by multiple sources that Bionic
 staffers were informed late last week that the troubled reboot has
 indeed been canceled. That means no spring relaunch under new
 show-runner Jason Cahill ⤠which is too bad. Cahill's a talented guy
 (see: The Sopranos), and I was anxious to see what he would do with the
 show. But I guess it wasn't meant to be.

 At least now the first stage of grief can get under way. No, not shock â¤
 the snarky postmortem! What do you think felled Bionic Woman in the end?
 Was it the lackluster pilot? The absence of a clear, creative vision?
 Not enough Starbuck? Too much Isaiah Washington? All of the above? Sound
 off in the comments section below!
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Re: [scifinoir2] What's Coming Up In Genre TV?

2008-02-23 Thread Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)
Which ones are you guys looking forward to/?  You think any will 
actually survive?/

Martin wrote:
 Left left one out. (Pun utterly intended, and welcome.)

 There's a series slated to air on AE later this year, called Cleaner. It 
 stars Benjamin Bratt, once of Law  Order, playing a guy who dies of a drug 
 overdose after he loses his son, and is resurrected to help others beat their 
 addictions, by any means necessary.

 http://www.variety.com/article/VR1117980708.html?categoryid=14cs=1

 Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: By 
 ED LEFT
 Source: SyFy Portal
 Feb-18-2008

 The Writers Guild of America strike has ended, and the networks are 
 making their plans for the remainder of the season and beyond. And 
 because of the strike, we didn't have a normal pilot season.

 Instead, the networks started ordering series directly instead of 
 ordering a pilot, or even ordered foreign series.

 Here's a look at the new series coming to your screens in the next 
 twelve months or so.

 Dollhouse will air on Fox, was created and produced by Joss Whedon, 
 and stars Eliza Dushku. It's about men and women imprinted with 
 different personalities and skills for different assignments, and then 
 having those personalities wiped clean when the assignment is completed.

 When between assignments, they live like children in the Dollhouse, 
 their dormitory/laboratory. They live with no memories of which they 
 are, until Echo, played by Dushku, begins to remember.

 I like the concept behind this show. If it was airing on a cable 
 network, I think we'd have a winner. However, it will be airing on Fox.

 Joss Whedon is a genre fan favorite, but let's face it, he hasn't really 
 had a hit show. Although Buffy the Vampire Slayer and Angel had long 
 runs, they ran on minor netlets. Neither show would have lasted on a 
 major network. Firefly did air on a major network, and it was a 
 ratings failure.

 Dushku previously starred in genre series Tru Calling, and it also 
 failed in the ratings. Combining Whedon, Dushku and Fox does not spell 
 success. I think we'll only see the seven episodes contracted, if that.

 Fear Itself, a horror anthology from NBC, promises be much like 
 Showtime's Masters of Horror, providing 60-minute telefilms by name 
 horror writers and directors. Anthologies don't work on network 
 television anymore. This one is doomed before it starts.

 The Listener is being produced by CTV in Canada, and has been bought 
 by NBC to air this coming summer/fall. Paramedic Toby Logan, played by 
 Craig Olejnik, has the power to listen to people's most intimate thoughts.

 With the help of his friend and partner Osman Bey (Ennis Esmer), they 
 save lives and solve mysteries. Borrowing from Heroes, they take the 
 most lame of abilities and build a show around it. It could work, but it 
 would depend on the strength of the writing and the acting.

   I don't hold out much hope.

 Middleman from writer-producer Javier Grillo-Marxuach of Lost fame, 
 stars Natalie Morales as a struggling artist recruited by an agency to 
 fight comic-book style villains. Matt Keeslay co-stars as Middleman, her 
 superhero guide and mentor.

 It's on ABC Family, so expect it to be pointed at the family crowd, and 
 it will probably have a Kyle XY look and feel. It seems on ABC Family, 
 cast and chemistry is the most important aspect. If they're likeable, 
 the show will probably stick around.

 Sanctuary, the Web series picked up by the SciFi Channel, stars Amanda 
 Tapping as Dr. Helen Magnus. Magnus runs the Sanctuary, which is a home 
 to various creatures of myth and legend, who must be tracked down and 
 protected. Dr. Will Zimmerman, played by Robin Dunne assists her in her 
 quest.

 It's cheap to produce, and airs on SciFi. It's a match made in heaven. 
 It also has Stargate SG-1 connections, which will bring in a 
 ready-made audience. This show could have legs.

 Section 8 has been picked up by ABC for a six-episode order. The 
 premise is a group of everyday people with advanced neurological 
 abnormalities who work for a secret government agency. This sounds like 
 a very thinly veiled Heroes homage. Or maybe it's more like Misfits 
 of Science? We'll find out.

 True Blood is brought to us by HBO, and is based on the Southern 
 Vampire book series by Charlaine Harris. It features Sookie Stackhouse, 
 played by Anna Paquin, a mind reading barmaid in Louisiana who falls in 
 love with vampire Bill Compton, played by Stephen Moyer.

 Vampires are no longer a secret, and can feed on a synthetic blood 
 developed by the Japanese. It's HBO, so you know they will be spending 
 some money on it. But I wonder if vampire fans will tune into another 
 vampire series so soon after the demise of Blood Ties and the fate of 
 Moonlight still up in the air.

 Getting Anna Paquin to star was a good move, and it guarantees I will 
 check out the pilot, at least.

 Wizard's First Rule is a new 

Re: [scifinoir2] News For Martha Jones Fans - Dr. Who/torchwoord

2008-02-23 Thread Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)
No episodes online?

Martin wrote:
 Tracey, I've been told that it is, by folks watching it. I can't, because I'm 
 a poor man.

 Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
anyone here what Torchwood?  Scifi addict that I 
 am, you know I have 
  been checking it out. So far, I think this season is better than last 
  season.
  
  Exclusive: 'Torchwood' Hub Means A New Martha
  
  By ALAN STANLEY BLAIR
  Source: SyFy Portal
  Feb-20-2008
  
  This story contains MODERATE SPOILERS for Season 2 of Torchwood and 
  the upcoming fourth season of Doctor Who.
  
  Her name is Martha Jones, and last year she saved the world. But at the 
  end of her 13-episode stint as The Doctor’s companion, BBC bosses 
  announced that Freema Agyeman would be giving up her full-time role on 
  the series to make way for the return of Catherine Tate.
  
  The news both disheartened and elated Martha Jones fans, because 
  although the character will have a reduced part in the upcoming fourth 
  season of Doctor Who, she will have an additional three-episode run on 
  the adult-themed spinoff for BBC Two and BBC America, Torchwood.
  
  This announcement caused quite a media stir within the British press as 
  tabloids had already made a variety of outlandish claims about her 
  future with the series. However, in an exclusive interview with SyFy 
  Portal, Agyeman set the record straight as to why she’ll be stepping 
  into the Hub instead of the Tardis.
  
  The decision was character based 100 percent, Agyeman told SyFy 
  Portal’s Alan Stanley Blair. In this business, no one has to do anyone 
  any favors, and if they weren’t happy, I’d be completely away. The 
  rumors of my departure came five weeks before the press announcement on 
  the future of the series and it happened without any of the facts. I was 
  hugely pleased with the decision to go to ‘Torchwood.’ And gosh, going 
  back to ‘Who’ as well. There was no scandal, no ill feelings in any way. 
  The tabloids put two and two together and came up with five and a half.
  
  So, beginning with the sixth episode of “Torchwood,” the now fully 
  qualified Dr. Martha Jones will take on the weird, the wacky and the 
  paranormal from Cardiff Bay as part of Team Torchwood. But don’t expect 
  to see a darker Martha, especially since the BBC believes she’ll attract 
  a slightly younger audience.
  
  They are very mindful that I’ll be going between the two shows, 
  Agyeman said. We know Martha has a large youth following so we’ve been 
  mindful that we’re not having sex or swearing in case some of the 
  younger fans tune in. Even though there is a pre-watershed edit we can’t 
  control who will tune in.
  
  In the episode, Martha (who is now working for alien specialists UNIT 
  that was established in the original run of Doctor Who) receives a 
  call from Capt. Jack Harkness (John Barrowman) following a string of 
  unexplained deaths. As a UNIT operative, she has also been looking into 
  the events and has more information than Torchwood does making her a 
  valuable asset to solving the case.
  
  There is a really nice arc in those three episodes actually, she 
  said. Jack calls Martha to give them a hand in Episode 6 and because 
  Martha is in UNIT now, she has a little bit more information that he 
  needs. And the consequences of that ends in a great cliff-hanger leading 
  into episode seven so it’s really like a good two-parter. By the end of 
  Episode 8, she’s part of the team. It is a very natural progression of 
  the character that I’m really pleased with.”
  
  Of course, with both shows being such different entities, how much of 
  the old “Doctor Who” dynamic crosses over with Martha? When Barrowman 
  initially returned to “Doctor Who” for its final three episodes last 
  season, we saw a lighter side to him than what was the norm for the 
  Torchwood leader. And Agyeman confirmed that the same holds true for Martha.
  
  “You take this character into a different environment and you wonder how 
  people take to that,” she said. “These are all new experiences for an 
  all-new character in a new environment. She’s harder, more qualified and 
  able to do things alone without looking to The Doctor. She’s very 
  different and she’ll be very different again when she’s about him. 
  Because when you are with different people you behave differently. 
  That’s how I perceived it and that’s how I tried to play it.”
  
  And as a result, fans can only expect a few references to their history 
  over the three-episode arc.
  
  It’s touched on but not discussed -- mostly in a lovely moment between 
  the two characters,” she hinted. “It would be weird if they didn’t 
 talk 
  about it, but the team don’t even know where he [Jack] went when he 
  vanished. In ‘Torchwood’ he is a much more mysterious character and 

Re: [scifinoir2] More Toys Going to Movies - HELP

2008-02-23 Thread Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)
OK now that I've calmed down  :)  What is the gathering and magic?   
Hasn't Clue been done?  Don't we live and breath monopoly?

Martin wrote:
 I'm going back to bed now... 8-O

 Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No 
 good can come from this.


 Universal Teams With Hasbro
 http://www.scifi.com/scifiwire/index.php?category=0id=48950
 Universal Pictures and Hasbro have announced a six-year strategic 
 partnership to produce at least four feature films based on some of 
 Hasbro's best-known game and toy brands, including Monopoly; Candy Land; 
 Clue; Ouija; Battleship; Magic, the Gathering; and Stretch Armstrong, 
 according to The Hollywood Reporter.

 Hasbro will partner exclusively with Universal for feature films, with 
 the exception of Transformers and G.I. Joe, which are already at 
 DreamWorks and Paramount.

 The first film emerging from the deal will be released in 2010 or 2011, 
 and Universal will release at least one film a year after that. Hasbro 
 is co-financing script development with Universal and has the option of 
 co-funding production of the films. Hasbro will retain all merchandising 
 rights to the brands, and the companies will share in consumer products 
 revenue generated by the movies.

 Shmuger said Universal and Hasbro still are working out which brand will 
 be the first project developed, but sources said it's likely to be 
 Monopoly or Ouija. Hasbro COO Brian Goldner said Michael Bay and his 
 Platinum Dune production company are signed on as producers for a Ouija 
 project, and David Berenbaum has signed on to write a draft of a script. 
 He said Hasbro is in negotiations with Ridley Scott on Monopoly.

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Re: [scifinoir2] Bad Movies Conferssion Time Re: Jumper - SPOILER ALERT!!!!!!

2008-02-23 Thread Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)
That sounds like a good...er bad one.  anybody else brave enough to shae?

Martin wrote:
 Okay, I'm in...

 Crossworlds, starring a pre-Sports Night Josh Charles, who plays an 
 aimless college student who gets picked up at a party by a hot blonde in a 
 mini-skirt. (That was the first clue for me.)

 Said blonde turns out to be a warrior from another dimension, who's after our 
 hero because of a necklace he has, the last thing he has to remember his dead 
 father by. 

 Said necklace is actually a talisman that can, if wielded properly, allow the 
 user to shape the Cosmos to his or her fancy, travel dimensions at will and 
 other fun stuff. 

 The blonde takes our hero to her mentor, played by Rutger Hauer, whom we're 
 *supposed* to see as a famed and nigh-invincible warrior. (I might've bought 
 it, if not for the fact that I was in better shape than he was, one lung and 
 all.)

 Anyhoo, the adventure just speeds- uh, *meanders* along to its utterly 
 predictable climax. Watchign it, I was grateful for both the ending and the 
 fact that I only paid six bucks for the video.

 tdemorsella [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:   So gang. 
  It seems like it is a given that some us go to or rent
  movies we pretty much knoware going to be bad.  So lets make it a
  confession time and open up about other bad flicks we saw knowing they
  were going to to be bad.  
  
  I have to think on it, but most recently, I saw Wild Hogs.  Don't kick
  me off the list, but I thought the first half was hilarious.  I
  watched a really bad one star movie, Cyber Wars also known as Avatar
  or  Matrix Hunter.  It starred Joseph Lau, David Warner (Jack the
  Ripper, Hog Father), and Joan Chen (twin Peaks) The Plot: In the near
  future in the Asian city-state Sintawan, everyone's identity is
  recorded in the vast CyberLink. The only way around this is using
  illegal simulated identity implants (sims). A young bounty hunter who
  makes her living tracking sims, finds herself the unlikely ally of a
  police detective who suspects the CyberLink is being perverted for an
  insidious and deadly purpose
  
  Okay, your turn
  
  tracey
  
  --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   Give 'em time, Tracey.
   
   Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I saw it.  It definitely was not theater
  worthy, but I think it would be 
a great TV show.  I love the teleportation concept and some of the 
mythology and laws were good too.  Unfortunately, it came across
  like a 
pilot movie for a scifi tv show.   To mad it is not a tv series

ravenadal wrote:
 To me, teleportation has always been the coolest of all
  superpowers.  
 Couple it with a proximity sense, keen hearing (so you can hear 
 when a shot is fired and teleport an instant before it gets there), 
 or just plain common sense and you have one heck of a skill set!

 ~rave!

 --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, DJ VIBE nehesi@ wrote:
   
  
 
  On Feb 15, 2008 6:31 PM, ravenadal ravenadal@ wrote:
  
  
   There is a scene in the new Jumper movie (no, I have not seen 
   
 it)
 
  
SPOILER

   
 ALERT!!
   
  
where the hero is watching the aftermath of the Hurricane 
   
 Karina on
 
his television. He gets dressed and teleports...to London, 
   
 where he
 
has a date. So much for great responsibility coming with 
   
 great 
   
 power!
 
  
   
 It was right in keeping with how his character was established in 
 the movie, although for a moment there I thought he might think of 
 using his abilities for good.  

 Overall, I found the movie pretty good, with one exception.  How 
 
 the 
   
 hell did the Paladins continually catch jumpers?  Its one thing if 
 you get the drop on one, but if you're standing in FRONT of one who 
 is fresh and the jumper sees you and you try to get him with your 
 stun-wand, how are you gonna get him?  In less than three minutes, 
 my wife and I came up with several ways to use a teleportation 
 
 power 
   
 offesinvely (i.e. teleport in a circle around your opponent a la 
 Nightcrawer. et. al) and in all of those cases we came up with, no 
 normal human would have a chance against a jumper.

 




  
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Re: [scifinoir2] McCain hopes Castro to meet Marx soon

2008-02-23 Thread Bosco Bosco
You admired an image that had absolutley nothing to do with reality.
He's idependent when it's convenient and he's not when it's not.

Up to November he was staunchly anti-torture. Come February, he's
voting to make Waterboarding legal. Almost immediately after he's
recieving the support various major important conservative coalitions
and pundits who had previously been villifying him. I can't say for
sure any deals were struck but I sure do smell some party-line stink
in the air. I've always thought that John McCain is just another rich
white tool who's essentially down for the rich white tool platform.

Bosco
--- Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I can't believe I used to admire this guy for his indepence.  He is
 
 truly scary
 
 Martin wrote:
  John McCain, USNA '58. We're so proud of him. :P
 
  Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: By Jason Szep Fri Feb
 22, 11:34 AM ET
 

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080222/od_uk_nm/oukoe_uk_usa_politics_mccain_castro;_ylt=AmvlgDEPu9NzP1gcKIAEaHztiBIF
  INDIANAPOLIS (Reuters) - Republican presidential front-runner
 John 
  McCain suggested on Friday that he hoped retired Cuban leader
 Fidel 
  Castro would die soon and said Castro's brother will be a worse
 leader.
 
 
  I hope he has the opportunity to meet Karl Marx very soon,
 McCain told 
  a town-hall style meeting of about 150 people, referring to
 communist 
  theoretician Marx who died on March 14, 1883.
 
  Castro, 81, announced on Tuesday he was stepping down as
 president and 
  commander-in-chief of Cuba's armed forces after 49 years in
 power. His 
  brother Raul Castro is expected to be named Cuba's new head of
 state on 
  Sunday.
 
  Apparently he is trying to groom his brother Raul, McCain said.
 Raul 
  is worse in many respects than Fidel was.
 
  Castro has not appeared in public since undergoing stomach
 surgery and 
  handing power temporarily to Raul in July 2006.
 
  McCain, a four-term Arizona senator, has an almost insurmountable
 lead 
  over his last major Republican rival, former Arkansas Gov. Mike
 Huckabee.
 
  McCain's approach to Cuba has generally echoed that of U.S.
 President 
  George W. Bush, who has tightened a decades-long trade embargo
 and has 
  rejected easing sanctions without a transition to democracy.
 
  McCain, who is popular among conservative Cuban-Americans, also
 has said 
  that if he wins the November 4 U.S. presidential election he
 would keep 
  up pressure for political change in Cuba's one-party state.
 
  That includes a travel ban and trade and financial sanctions
 enforced a 
  few years after Castro's 1959 revolution on the Caribbean island.
 
  McCain, 71, a former prisoner of war in Vietnam, has accused
 Cubans of 
  participating in the torture of some of his fellow prisoners in
 Hanoi 
  during the Vietnam War.
 
  (To read more about the U.S. political campaign, visit Reuters
 Tales 
  from the Trail: 2008 online at
 http://blogs.reuters.com/trail08/)
 
  (Editing by Bill Trott)
 
 
   
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Re: [scifinoir2] McCain hopes Castro to meet Marx soon

2008-02-23 Thread Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)
Obviously.  what an ass
Bosco Bosco wrote:
 You admired an image that had absolutley nothing to do with reality.
 He's idependent when it's convenient and he's not when it's not.

 Bosco
 --- Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   
 I can't believe I used to admire this guy for his indepence.  He is

 truly scary

 Martin wrote:
 
 John McCain, USNA '58. We're so proud of him. :P

 Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)
   
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: By Jason Szep Fri Feb
 22, 11:34 AM ET
 
 http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080222/od_uk_nm/oukoe_uk_usa_politics_mccain_castro;_ylt=AmvlgDEPu9NzP1gcKIAEaHztiBIF
   
 INDIANAPOLIS (Reuters) - Republican presidential front-runner
   
 John 
 
 McCain suggested on Friday that he hoped retired Cuban leader
   
 Fidel 
 
 Castro would die soon and said Castro's brother will be a worse
   
 leader.
 
 I hope he has the opportunity to meet Karl Marx very soon,
   
 McCain told 
 
 a town-hall style meeting of about 150 people, referring to
   
 communist 
 
 theoretician Marx who died on March 14, 1883.

 Castro, 81, announced on Tuesday he was stepping down as
   
 president and 
 
 commander-in-chief of Cuba's armed forces after 49 years in
   
 power. His 
 
 brother Raul Castro is expected to be named Cuba's new head of
   
 state on 
 
 Sunday.

 Apparently he is trying to groom his brother Raul, McCain said.
   
 Raul 
 
 is worse in many respects than Fidel was.

 Castro has not appeared in public since undergoing stomach
   
 surgery and 
 
 handing power temporarily to Raul in July 2006.

 McCain, a four-term Arizona senator, has an almost insurmountable
   
 lead 
 
 over his last major Republican rival, former Arkansas Gov. Mike
   
 Huckabee.
 
 McCain's approach to Cuba has generally echoed that of U.S.
   
 President 
 
 George W. Bush, who has tightened a decades-long trade embargo
   
 and has 
 
 rejected easing sanctions without a transition to democracy.

 McCain, who is popular among conservative Cuban-Americans, also
   
 has said 
 
 that if he wins the November 4 U.S. presidential election he
   
 would keep 
 
 up pressure for political change in Cuba's one-party state.

 That includes a travel ban and trade and financial sanctions
   
 enforced a 
 
 few years after Castro's 1959 revolution on the Caribbean island.

 McCain, 71, a former prisoner of war in Vietnam, has accused
   
 Cubans of 
 
 participating in the torture of some of his fellow prisoners in
   
 Hanoi 
 
 during the Vietnam War.

 (To read more about the U.S. political campaign, visit Reuters
   
 Tales 
 
 from the Trail: 2008 online at
   
 http://blogs.reuters.com/trail08/)
 
 (Editing by Bill Trott)


  
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Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Jumper - SPOILER ALERT!!!!!!

2008-02-23 Thread KeithBJohnson
Same here. Whenever Phyllis and i argue, i always ask myself one question Is 
she *trying* to hurt me?  The day that question is answered yes, there's an 
issue. But as long as each of us knows the other is simply trying to express an 
opinion, that we love each other still (and perhaps more importantly, *like* 
each other) then we can put the overly sensitive nature aside and try to work 
things out. So much of it is that the person you trust the most can also hurt 
you the easiest, so you have to  remember that it's not intentional. I've seen 
couples who argue who are trying to hurt it each other, and it's a painful and 
sad thing to watch that often ends in divorce.  

We also do things like making sure to let the other talk instead of talking 
over each other, saying things like This is what I feel you're saying, or 
What I just heard you say is. The latter allows the other to say no, that's 
not what I meant or Sorry, i used the wrong words.  This replaces stuff like 
Don't say that to me! or How dare you say that?! etc.  Frankly, some of the 
same tools we're taught to negotiate disagreements in the business 
world--trying to step back, analyze, restate--help in relationships.

What's helped me too is like you--life. Losing so many loved ones, having so 
many health issues ourselves recently, trying to find happiness in life 
sometimes when jobs and finances beat you down. You can do two things: start 
working with each other more as friends and partners, or let the anger/fear 
make you snipe at each other. We've taken conscious steps to remind ourselves 
that we're partners and best friends who need to be working together, not 
against each other. And frankly I've spent more time asking myself sometimes 
why I'm angry during an argument: is it really at her, or is it symptomatic of 
more general dissatisfaction with other aspects of my life. That makes me focus 
more on changing the things in my life that are making me unhappy, trying to 
live a better and happier life and remove those sources of stress that may come 
out in arguments with my wife, but really have nothing to do with her.

-- Original message -- 
From: Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
You guys are not really different than Chris and I. While we have 
always gone out of our way not to say things that would hurt each other, 
we both can be marathon fighters. Our circumstances forced us to do 
another way. We had Kira. When she was an infant, we would go in 
another room and argue in low tones. (or at least try to). But it was 
still good practice with learning not to yell. Can't say that I have 
mastered it. Then with that horrible situation in Mexico with our lives 
falling apart and both of us getting sick, a couple of things happened. 
We were arguing all the time because of our dire circumstances, she was 
older and harder to keep away from the fray. She could see that I seemed 
to be dying. She asked me if I was going away sometimes and started 
having nightmares. I was in so much pain that her normally extremely 
affectionate Mom, winced she touched me. Not a great situation for 
her. With the situation so bad, we had to do something about what was 
in our control. So we started discussing way to better handle our 
disagreements and to really talk to each other when we were not angry. 
Separating and coming back seemed to be the best way. Our true nature 
is to come out swinging and win, but in the end you get nothing. So 
this stepping back approach, while less rewarding in the very short 
term, usually has us talking it out and making up so we can be the 
laughing, teasing, silly and affectionate parents Kira is used to having 
around. 

Sounds like even without a kid around, you guys are working to do the 
same thing.

When are you going to see Jumper? 

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 that's good to know. i unfortunately can argue and debate for hours, 
 literally, if really passionate about something. My wife and I are admittedly 
 both a bit sensitive and stubborn, so we can go for a while. I long ago 
 learned to figure out when it's time to just leave the discussion for a while 
 in order to go somewhere and cool down, then come back and talk. If she's 
 being recalcitrant or even hurtful, I have to make an effort to remind myself 
 she's not intentionally hurting me, and once i can remember that, i can 
 discuss things more rationally. Same with her.

 I have a really bad temper, which i'm sure is genetically inherited from my 
 birth mom, so I have to be sure not to take stuff personally too quickly. 
 Combine that with my love for talking and my desire to understand all sides 
 of an issue, and whoo boy! Back when i was home for my mother's funeral, my 
 older brother jumped me about a comment I made about Mom that he felt was 
 disrespectful. That led to all kinds of stuff being aired in a five hour 
 discussion from 1 am to sunrise. At the end, he was amazed that I 

Re: [scifinoir2] Bionic Woman Laid to Rest

2008-02-23 Thread KeithBJohnson
Yes, indeed. I found a decent transfer of Exo-Squad to DVD on eBay.

-- Original message -- 
From: Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] 

 Keith, you are making my heart hurt. Odyssey 5, The Dresden files, 
 Franks place and exo-squad in the same sentence. If only Don't you 
 have Exo-squad on DVD? 
 
 Martin wrote: 
  Keith, again we're on the same wavelength. 
  
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i often have this silly fantasy that a really 
 rich billionaire could create a cable channel and fund shows that draw 
 small-but-dedicated audiences for their quality. In this fantasy world, the 
 billionaire would underwrite shows like Threshold, John Doe, Odyssey 5, 
 Space: Above and Beyond, The Dresden Files, Karen Sisco. We'd get 
 another 
 season of Exo-Squad and Samurai Jack. The like of Coto would get a chance 
 to really see their projects to fruition. 
  
  Frank's Place would return. 
  
  Yeah, yeah, a fantasy indeed. No one would do that, and even if they did, 
  the 
 backer would likely not have the same taste as mine, and still cancel good 
 shows. But in a world where billionaires buy boats big as apartment complexes 
 and fund science fiction halls of fame, i can dream, can't i??? 
  
  -- Original message -- 
  From: Lockhart, Daryle 
  
  Jason Cahill and Manny Coto should do a show together. They are both great 
  at saving failed projects. 
  
  On Fri, 22 Feb 2008 11:26:42 -0500, Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. 
  Minor) wrote: 
  
  
  It's now official: The Commander in Chief award for the most spectacular 
  freshman flame-out of the 07-08 TV season goes to... Bionic Woman! 
  
  Although NBC isn't talking, I'm told by multiple sources that Bionic 
  staffers were informed late last week that the troubled reboot has 
  indeed been canceled. That means no spring relaunch under new 
  show-runner Jason Cahill ⤠which is too bad. Cahill's a talented guy 
  (see: The Sopranos), and I was anxious to see what he would do with the 
  show. But I guess it wasn't meant to be. 
  
  At least now the first stage of grief can get under way. No, not shock ⤠
  the snarky postmortem! What do you think felled Bionic Woman in the end? 
  Was it the lackluster pilot? The absence of a clear, creative vision? 
  Not enough Starbuck? Too much Isaiah Washington? All of the above? Sound 
  off in the comments section below! 
  
 http://community.tvguide.com/blog/TVGuide-Editors-Blog/Ausiello-Report/70049
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
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Re: [scifinoir2] News For Martha Jones Fans - Dr. Who/torchwoord

2008-02-23 Thread Justin Mohareb
On Sat, Feb 23, 2008 at 10:48 AM, Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey
L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Something happened when Jack died and at the end of the episode you saw,
  he was still alive.  Now he can't die.  In fact, he and Rose have met
  him when they travel to the future.  They just do not know it is him.  I
  can not tell you more because it is a spoiler



Just a bit!

As for Torchwood, they were founded in the Dr. Who episode Tooth and
Claw by Queen Victoria to protect England from extra-terrestrial
threats (i.e. the Doctor). They were mentioned in several episodes in
season 2.

Torchwood season 1 was uneven, to say the best.  Some really good
episodes and some really not so good ones.  You can Fanon a lot away
by saying well, they're the rump/branch office of Torchwood, right?
but thankfully season two has the team a lot more cohesive and less
dysfunctional.

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Re: [scifinoir2] News For Martha Jones Fans - Dr. Who/torchwoord

2008-02-23 Thread Martin
Not *really* a spoiler, if you're up on DW.

Justin Mohareb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:   On Sat, 
Feb 23, 2008 at 10:48 AM, Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey
 L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Something happened when Jack died and at the end of the episode you saw,
   he was still alive.  Now he can't die.  In fact, he and Rose have met
   him when they travel to the future.  They just do not know it is him.  I
   can not tell you more because it is a spoiler
 
 
 Just a bit!
 
 As for Torchwood, they were founded in the Dr. Who episode Tooth and
 Claw by Queen Victoria to protect England from extra-terrestrial
 threats (i.e. the Doctor). They were mentioned in several episodes in
 season 2.
 
 Torchwood season 1 was uneven, to say the best.  Some really good
 episodes and some really not so good ones.  You can Fanon a lot away
 by saying well, they're the rump/branch office of Torchwood, right?
 but thankfully season two has the team a lot more cohesive and less
 dysfunctional.
 
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Re: [scifinoir2] News For Martha Jones Fans - Dr. Who/torchwoord

2008-02-23 Thread Martin
Please ignore my previous in this thread. I see now that I read out of context.

Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
Something happened when Jack died and at the end of the episode you saw, 
he was still alive.  Now he can't die.  In fact, he and Rose have met 
him when they travel to the future.  They just do not know it is him.  I 
can not tell you more because it is a spoiler

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 What's the premise of Torchwood? I only just now caught up on the eps of Dr. 
 Who were Rose was trapped on the alternate Earth with her mom, sometimes 
 boyfriend, and alternate reality father.  I saw the first four or five eps of 
 the season with Martha, but that's it. I remember some references to 
 Torchwood in the show. But didn't Captain Jack die in Dr. Who? How is he 
 alive, what is Torchwood, and how did it come to exist in our time?

 -- Original message -- 
 From: Martin  
 Gymfig, the BBC is capitalizing on her unexpected popularity by split-tining 
 her between Torchwood and DW. She'll be in those eps on Torchwood, then 
 return to be the Doctor's co-companion with Catherine Tate for the rest of S4.

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 In a message dated 2/22/2008 7:12:33 PM Eastern Standard Time, 
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 season of Doctor Who, she will have an additional three-episode run on 
 the adult-themed spinoff for BBC Two and BBC America, Torchwood.

 I love Torchwood. I heard about this on the sci fi channel. I am glad that 
 she is back but I am sad that she is only back for three episodes. 


 I still don't understand what is the big deal with Capt. Jack. He does not 
 seem to be that cold leader his character is supposed to be. It is quite 
 laughable to see him be threatening. 

 **Ideas to please picky eaters. Watch video on AOL Living. 
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Re: [scifinoir2] More Toys Going to Movies - HELP

2008-02-23 Thread Martin
Jeez, I can't even *see* Monopoly beign done, unless it were some dreck on the 
order of Super Mario Brothers for kids alone. Magic; The Gathering is a  
card-based RPG. I used to play it, when it first came out. Got too 
time-intensive for me to continue.

Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OK 
now that I've calmed down  :)  What is the gathering and magic?   
Hasn't Clue been done?  Don't we live and breath monopoly?

Martin wrote:
 I'm going back to bed now... 8-O

 Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)  wrote: No good can come from 
 this.


 Universal Teams With Hasbro
 http://www.scifi.com/scifiwire/index.php?category=0id=48950
 Universal Pictures and Hasbro have announced a six-year strategic 
 partnership to produce at least four feature films based on some of 
 Hasbro's best-known game and toy brands, including Monopoly; Candy Land; 
 Clue; Ouija; Battleship; Magic, the Gathering; and Stretch Armstrong, 
 according to The Hollywood Reporter.

 Hasbro will partner exclusively with Universal for feature films, with 
 the exception of Transformers and G.I. Joe, which are already at 
 DreamWorks and Paramount.

 The first film emerging from the deal will be released in 2010 or 2011, 
 and Universal will release at least one film a year after that. Hasbro 
 is co-financing script development with Universal and has the option of 
 co-funding production of the films. Hasbro will retain all merchandising 
 rights to the brands, and the companies will share in consumer products 
 revenue generated by the movies.

 Shmuger said Universal and Hasbro still are working out which brand will 
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Re: [scifinoir2] News For Martha Jones Fans - Dr. Who/torchwoord

2008-02-23 Thread Martin
There were, but the BBC has been a bear about keeping its content intact and 
unable to be downloaded illegally. Anytime someone overseas posts anything of 
theirs, they rush over to rip it off the site.

Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  
 No episodes online?
 
 Martin wrote:
  Tracey, I've been told that it is, by folks watching it. I can't, because 
  I'm a poor man.
 
  Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:   
  anyone here what Torchwood?  Scifi addict that I 
  am, you know I have 
   been checking it out. So far, I think this season is better than last 
   season.
   
   Exclusive: 'Torchwood' Hub Means A New Martha
   
   By ALAN STANLEY BLAIR
   Source: SyFy Portal
   Feb-20-2008
   
   This story contains MODERATE SPOILERS for Season 2 of Torchwood and 
   the upcoming fourth season of Doctor Who.
   
   Her name is Martha Jones, and last year she saved the world. But at the 
   end of her 13-episode stint as The Doctor’s companion, BBC bosses 
   announced that Freema Agyeman would be giving up her full-time role on 
   the series to make way for the return of Catherine Tate.
   
   The news both disheartened and elated Martha Jones fans, because 
   although the character will have a reduced part in the upcoming fourth 
   season of Doctor Who, she will have an additional three-episode run on 
   the adult-themed spinoff for BBC Two and BBC America, Torchwood.
   
   This announcement caused quite a media stir within the British press as 
   tabloids had already made a variety of outlandish claims about her 
   future with the series. However, in an exclusive interview with SyFy 
   Portal, Agyeman set the record straight as to why she’ll be stepping 
   into the Hub instead of the Tardis.
   
   The decision was character based 100 percent, Agyeman told SyFy 
   Portal’s Alan Stanley Blair. In this business, no one has to do 
  anyone 
   any favors, and if they weren’t happy, I’d be completely 
  away. The 
   rumors of my departure came five weeks before the press announcement on 
   the future of the series and it happened without any of the facts. I was 
   hugely pleased with the decision to go to ‘Torchwood.’ And 
  gosh, going 
   back to ‘Who’ as well. There was no scandal, no ill feelings 
  in any way. 
   The tabloids put two and two together and came up with five and a half.
   
   So, beginning with the sixth episode of “Torchwood,” the now 
  fully 
   qualified Dr. Martha Jones will take on the weird, the wacky and the 
   paranormal from Cardiff Bay as part of Team Torchwood. But don’t 
  expect 
   to see a darker Martha, especially since the BBC believes she’ll 
  attract 
   a slightly younger audience.
   
   They are very mindful that I’ll be going between the two shows, 
   Agyeman said. We know Martha has a large youth following so we’ve 
  been 
   mindful that we’re not having sex or swearing in case some of the 
   younger fans tune in. Even though there is a pre-watershed edit we 
  can’t 
   control who will tune in.
   
   In the episode, Martha (who is now working for alien specialists UNIT 
   that was established in the original run of Doctor Who) receives a 
   call from Capt. Jack Harkness (John Barrowman) following a string of 
   unexplained deaths. As a UNIT operative, she has also been looking into 
   the events and has more information than Torchwood does making her a 
   valuable asset to solving the case.
   
   There is a really nice arc in those three episodes actually, she 
   said. Jack calls Martha to give them a hand in Episode 6 and because 
   Martha is in UNIT now, she has a little bit more information that he 
   needs. And the consequences of that ends in a great cliff-hanger leading 
   into episode seven so it’s really like a good two-parter. By the end 
  of 
   Episode 8, she’s part of the team. It is a very natural progression 
  of 
   the character that I’m really pleased with.”
   
   Of course, with both shows being such different entities, how much of 
   the old “Doctor Who” dynamic crosses over with Martha? When 
  Barrowman 
   initially returned to “Doctor Who” for its final three episodes 
  last 
   season, we saw a lighter side to him than what was the norm for the 
   Torchwood leader. And Agyeman confirmed that the same holds true for Martha.
   
   “You take this character into a different environment and you wonder 
  how 
   people take to that,” she said. “These are all new experiences 
  for an 
   all-new character in a new environment. She’s harder, more qualified 
  and 
   able to do things alone without looking to The Doctor. She’s very 
   different and she’ll be very different again 

Re: [scifinoir2] What's Coming Up In Genre TV?

2008-02-23 Thread Martin
I'm excited about The Listener in particular. Dollhouse hasn't moved me. 
Fear Itself, as you said in the article, sounds DOA, unless they really do a 
bang-up job on it across the board. Middleman- NO. Sanctuary is a maybe, 
despite it having all the inroads with Skiffy. (In other words, I'm betting 
against it *because* it's a Skiffy production.) Section 8 sounds apropos. 
True Blood- MORE NO.

Finally, Wizard's First Rule is a great novel series. Watch them find ways to 
muck it up.

Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  
 Which ones are you guys looking forward to/?  You 
think any will 
 actually survive?/
 
 Martin wrote:
  Left left one out. (Pun utterly intended, and welcome.)
 
  There's a series slated to air on AE later this year, called Cleaner. It 
  stars Benjamin Bratt, once of Law  Order, playing a guy who dies of a 
  drug overdose after he loses his son, and is resurrected to help others beat 
  their addictions, by any means necessary.
 
  http://www.variety.com/article/VR1117980708.html?categoryid=14cs=1
 
  Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
  By ED LEFT
  Source: SyFy Portal
  Feb-18-2008
 
  The Writers Guild of America strike has ended, and the networks are 
  making their plans for the remainder of the season and beyond. And 
  because of the strike, we didn't have a normal pilot season.
 
  Instead, the networks started ordering series directly instead of 
  ordering a pilot, or even ordered foreign series.
 
  Here's a look at the new series coming to your screens in the next 
  twelve months or so.
 
  Dollhouse will air on Fox, was created and produced by Joss Whedon, 
  and stars Eliza Dushku. It's about men and women imprinted with 
  different personalities and skills for different assignments, and then 
  having those personalities wiped clean when the assignment is completed.
 
  When between assignments, they live like children in the Dollhouse, 
  their dormitory/laboratory. They live with no memories of which they 
  are, until Echo, played by Dushku, begins to remember.
 
  I like the concept behind this show. If it was airing on a cable 
  network, I think we'd have a winner. However, it will be airing on Fox.
 
  Joss Whedon is a genre fan favorite, but let's face it, he hasn't really 
  had a hit show. Although Buffy the Vampire Slayer and Angel had long 
  runs, they ran on minor netlets. Neither show would have lasted on a 
  major network. Firefly did air on a major network, and it was a 
  ratings failure.
 
  Dushku previously starred in genre series Tru Calling, and it also 
  failed in the ratings. Combining Whedon, Dushku and Fox does not spell 
  success. I think we'll only see the seven episodes contracted, if that.
 
  Fear Itself, a horror anthology from NBC, promises be much like 
  Showtime's Masters of Horror, providing 60-minute telefilms by name 
  horror writers and directors. Anthologies don't work on network 
  television anymore. This one is doomed before it starts.
 
  The Listener is being produced by CTV in Canada, and has been bought 
  by NBC to air this coming summer/fall. Paramedic Toby Logan, played by 
  Craig Olejnik, has the power to listen to people's most intimate thoughts.
 
  With the help of his friend and partner Osman Bey (Ennis Esmer), they 
  save lives and solve mysteries. Borrowing from Heroes, they take the 
  most lame of abilities and build a show around it. It could work, but it 
  would depend on the strength of the writing and the acting.
 
I don't hold out much hope.
 
  Middleman from writer-producer Javier Grillo-Marxuach of Lost fame, 
  stars Natalie Morales as a struggling artist recruited by an agency to 
  fight comic-book style villains. Matt Keeslay co-stars as Middleman, her 
  superhero guide and mentor.
 
  It's on ABC Family, so expect it to be pointed at the family crowd, and 
  it will probably have a Kyle XY look and feel. It seems on ABC Family, 
  cast and chemistry is the most important aspect. If they're likeable, 
  the show will probably stick around.
 
  Sanctuary, the Web series picked up by the SciFi Channel, stars Amanda 
  Tapping as Dr. Helen Magnus. Magnus runs the Sanctuary, which is a home 
  to various creatures of myth and legend, who must be tracked down and 
  protected. Dr. Will Zimmerman, played by Robin Dunne assists her in her 
  quest.
 
  It's cheap to produce, and airs on SciFi. It's a match made in heaven. 
  It also has Stargate SG-1 connections, which will bring in a 
  ready-made audience. This show could have legs.
 
  Section 8 has been picked up by ABC for a six-episode order. The 
  premise is a group of everyday people with advanced neurological 
  abnormalities who work for a secret government agency. This sounds like 
  a very thinly veiled Heroes homage. Or maybe it's more like Misfits 
  of Science? We'll find out.
 
  True Blood is brought to us by HBO, and is 

Re: [scifinoir2] McCain hopes Castro to meet Marx soon

2008-02-23 Thread Martin
It's not safe to have this man anywhere inside the Beltway.

Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I 
can't believe I used to admire this guy for his indepence.  He is 
truly scary

Martin wrote:
 John McCain, USNA '58. We're so proud of him. :P

 Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)  wrote: By Jason Szep Fri Feb 
 22, 11:34 AM ET
 http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080222/od_uk_nm/oukoe_uk_usa_politics_mccain_castro;_ylt=AmvlgDEPu9NzP1gcKIAEaHztiBIF
 INDIANAPOLIS (Reuters) - Republican presidential front-runner John 
 McCain suggested on Friday that he hoped retired Cuban leader Fidel 
 Castro would die soon and said Castro's brother will be a worse leader.


 I hope he has the opportunity to meet Karl Marx very soon, McCain told 
 a town-hall style meeting of about 150 people, referring to communist 
 theoretician Marx who died on March 14, 1883.

 Castro, 81, announced on Tuesday he was stepping down as president and 
 commander-in-chief of Cuba's armed forces after 49 years in power. His 
 brother Raul Castro is expected to be named Cuba's new head of state on 
 Sunday.

 Apparently he is trying to groom his brother Raul, McCain said. Raul 
 is worse in many respects than Fidel was.

 Castro has not appeared in public since undergoing stomach surgery and 
 handing power temporarily to Raul in July 2006.

 McCain, a four-term Arizona senator, has an almost insurmountable lead 
 over his last major Republican rival, former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee.

 McCain's approach to Cuba has generally echoed that of U.S. President 
 George W. Bush, who has tightened a decades-long trade embargo and has 
 rejected easing sanctions without a transition to democracy.

 McCain, who is popular among conservative Cuban-Americans, also has said 
 that if he wins the November 4 U.S. presidential election he would keep 
 up pressure for political change in Cuba's one-party state.

 That includes a travel ban and trade and financial sanctions enforced a 
 few years after Castro's 1959 revolution on the Caribbean island.

 McCain, 71, a former prisoner of war in Vietnam, has accused Cubans of 
 participating in the torture of some of his fellow prisoners in Hanoi 
 during the Vietnam War.

 (To read more about the U.S. political campaign, visit Reuters Tales 
 from the Trail: 2008 online at http://blogs.reuters.com/trail08/)

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Re: [scifinoir2] McCain hopes Castro to meet Marx soon

2008-02-23 Thread Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)
I know they make jokes about his age all the time, but his speeches, 
jokes, quotes and interviews have a different, off kilter ...  wacko.  Sorry

I saw him on the daily show and a few other interview shows last summer 
and he did not sound so nutty. I did not agree with anything he said, 
but he seemed to be sane.  Now he looks frail and really sounds out 
there.  Is it possible he has dementia or is he just dementia and no 
longer afraid to let his demented side out.

Martin wrote:
 It's not safe to have this man anywhere inside the Beltway.

 Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I 
 can't believe I used to admire this guy for his indepence.  He is 
 truly scary

 Martin wrote:
   
 John McCain, USNA '58. We're so proud of him. :P

 Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)  wrote: By Jason Szep Fri 
 Feb 22, 11:34 AM ET
 http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080222/od_uk_nm/oukoe_uk_usa_politics_mccain_castro;_ylt=AmvlgDEPu9NzP1gcKIAEaHztiBIF
 INDIANAPOLIS (Reuters) - Republican presidential front-runner John 
 McCain suggested on Friday that he hoped retired Cuban leader Fidel 
 Castro would die soon and said Castro's brother will be a worse leader.


 I hope he has the opportunity to meet Karl Marx very soon, McCain told 
 a town-hall style meeting of about 150 people, referring to communist 
 theoretician Marx who died on March 14, 1883.

 Castro, 81, announced on Tuesday he was stepping down as president and 
 commander-in-chief of Cuba's armed forces after 49 years in power. His 
 brother Raul Castro is expected to be named Cuba's new head of state on 
 Sunday.

 Apparently he is trying to groom his brother Raul, McCain said. Raul 
 is worse in many respects than Fidel was.

 Castro has not appeared in public since undergoing stomach surgery and 
 handing power temporarily to Raul in July 2006.

 McCain, a four-term Arizona senator, has an almost insurmountable lead 
 over his last major Republican rival, former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee.

 McCain's approach to Cuba has generally echoed that of U.S. President 
 George W. Bush, who has tightened a decades-long trade embargo and has 
 rejected easing sanctions without a transition to democracy.

 McCain, who is popular among conservative Cuban-Americans, also has said 
 that if he wins the November 4 U.S. presidential election he would keep 
 up pressure for political change in Cuba's one-party state.

 That includes a travel ban and trade and financial sanctions enforced a 
 few years after Castro's 1959 revolution on the Caribbean island.

 McCain, 71, a former prisoner of war in Vietnam, has accused Cubans of 
 participating in the torture of some of his fellow prisoners in Hanoi 
 during the Vietnam War.

 (To read more about the U.S. political campaign, visit Reuters Tales 
 from the Trail: 2008 online at http://blogs.reuters.com/trail08/)

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Re: [scifinoir2] Bad Movies Conferssion Time Re: Jumper - SPOILER ALERT!!!!!!

2008-02-23 Thread Astromancer
I would join in, but you've all heard the Star Crash story...Can't get any 
worse than that...

Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  Okay, I'm in...

Crossworlds, starring a pre-Sports Night Josh Charles, who plays an aimless 
college student who gets picked up at a party by a hot blonde in a mini-skirt. 
(That was the first clue for me.)

Said blonde turns out to be a warrior from another dimension, who's after our 
hero because of a necklace he has, the last thing he has to remember his dead 
father by. 

Said necklace is actually a talisman that can, if wielded properly, allow the 
user to shape the Cosmos to his or her fancy, travel dimensions at will and 
other fun stuff. 

The blonde takes our hero to her mentor, played by Rutger Hauer, whom we're 
*supposed* to see as a famed and nigh-invincible warrior. (I might've bought 
it, if not for the fact that I was in better shape than he was, one lung and 
all.)

Anyhoo, the adventure just speeds- uh, *meanders* along to its utterly 
predictable climax. Watchign it, I was grateful for both the ending and the 
fact that I only paid six bucks for the video.

tdemorsella [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So gang. It seems like it is a given 
that some us go to or rent
movies we pretty much knoware going to be bad. So lets make it a
confession time and open up about other bad flicks we saw knowing they
were going to to be bad. 

I have to think on it, but most recently, I saw Wild Hogs. Don't kick
me off the list, but I thought the first half was hilarious. I
watched a really bad one star movie, Cyber Wars also known as Avatar
or Matrix Hunter. It starred Joseph Lau, David Warner (Jack the
Ripper, Hog Father), and Joan Chen (twin Peaks) The Plot: In the near
future in the Asian city-state Sintawan, everyone's identity is
recorded in the vast CyberLink. The only way around this is using
illegal simulated identity implants (sims). A young bounty hunter who
makes her living tracking sims, finds herself the unlikely ally of a
police detective who suspects the CyberLink is being perverted for an
insidious and deadly purpose

Okay, your turn

tracey

--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Give 'em time, Tracey.
 
 Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I saw it. It definitely was not theater
worthy, but I think it would be 
 a great TV show. I love the teleportation concept and some of the 
 mythology and laws were good too. Unfortunately, it came across
like a 
 pilot movie for a scifi tv show. To mad it is not a tv series
 
 ravenadal wrote:
  To me, teleportation has always been the coolest of all
superpowers. 
  Couple it with a proximity sense, keen hearing (so you can hear 
  when a shot is fired and teleport an instant before it gets there), 
  or just plain common sense and you have one heck of a skill set!
 
  ~rave!
 
  --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, DJ VIBE nehesi@ wrote:
  
  
  
  On Feb 15, 2008 6:31 PM, ravenadal ravenadal@ wrote:
  
  
   There is a scene in the new Jumper movie (no, I have not seen 
  
  it)
  
  
   SPOILER
   
  
  ALERT!!
  
  
   where the hero is watching the aftermath of the Hurricane 
  
  Karina on
  
   his television. He gets dressed and teleports...to London, 
  
  where he
  
   has a date. So much for great responsibility coming with 
  
  great 
  
  power!
  
  
  
  It was right in keeping with how his character was established in 
  the movie, although for a moment there I thought he might think of 
  using his abilities for good. 
 
  Overall, I found the movie pretty good, with one exception. How 
  
  the 
  
  hell did the Paladins continually catch jumpers? Its one thing if 
  you get the drop on one, but if you're standing in FRONT of one who 
  is fresh and the jumper sees you and you try to get him with your 
  stun-wand, how are you gonna get him? In less than three minutes, 
  my wife and I came up with several ways to use a teleportation 
  
  power 
  
  offesinvely (i.e. teleport in a circle around your opponent a la 
  Nightcrawer. et. al) and in all of those cases we came up with, no 
  normal human would have a chance against a jumper.
 
  
 
 
 
 
  
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2008-02-23 Thread Bosco Bosco
I blog on My Space. I generally just do it to mark little places that
interest me in my life. Today was a little different and I wanted to
share with the class

A Man Of Influence 
Current mood:  sad 


In the early 1980's my Mother was in graduate school getting a
Doctorate in English. When she graduated, she took a job at a small
college in Durant, Ok and I spent my last year of high school there. 

After dropping out, I got a GED, failed my first semester of college,
joined the army, got discharged from the Army after basic, and
basically kind of lived aimlessly for a couple of years. In the mid
80's, I returned to Durant to make another run at college. I enrolled
in a course taught by one of my mother's friendliest colleagues. On
the first day of class, Dennis Letts walked into the room, and
slammed a gigantic stack of books on the desk. With a pointed and
wagging finger and a voice focused in an even a more pointed half
growling tone, he pronounced to the class, Everything you know is
wrong!  It was the most dramatic entrance by a teacher I have ever
observed. Dennis spent the rest of the semester showing us that he
was right. 

I have known quite a few good teachers in my life. I remember great
lessons, great lectures, great insights and great inspirations that
have been offered me by those teachers. Not one among them had more
impact or influence on me than Dennis Letts. The memory of that first
day of my first class with Dennis has lived in my mind, brilliant and
cherished, for more than two decades. 

I was raised almost from birth to think critically and to examine
thoughts and ideas. From Dennis, I learned why questioning my own
opinions and beliefs to determine their value was important. He
showed me again and again that until my opinions and beliefs have the
weight of well measured reason behind them, they are by nature
valueless because they are purposeless.  

Dennis Letts also recognized in me a talent for writing of which I
was completely unaware. His encouragment and initial direction
provided me with a tool that has given me more self confidence and
strength than he was probably ever aware. Singularly, writing has
served me well over the years in defining thoughts and feelings.
Through writing I find a uniquely satisfying way to navigate the
world when I find it overwhelming, absurd or hilarious. I would never
have found the way without Dennis Letts.

I think back now over my experiences with Dennis and I am amazed at
the way one person's influence continues to resonate through me even
though it has been literally years upon years since I have seen or
spoken to him.

A couple of months back my Mom reported to me that Dennis was very
very ill. and his time was short. In typical Dennis fashion he spent
the last bit of his time among the living working creatively. He had
started an acting career in the 80's and had pursued it with
determination. I counted 46 different credits under his name on the
Internet Movie Database. Not too shabby for a guy who began his
professional acting career in the middle of his life. I am told he
had dreamed for many years of appearing on Broadway. This year a play
called August Osage County, written by his son Tracy Letts, debuted
there and Dennis Letts achieved that dream. It opened to critical
acclaim and praise. I literally danced when I heard the news of how
well they had done.

Over many years now past, I have kept up with Dennis primarily
through my mother. We've been seperated by time and geography but
that has not kept kept me from gleefully enjoying tales of his
exploits and achievements and giggling at the tales of his silliness.
I was glad to know that he had remained true to his passions and his
art and that he had lived the life he wanted.

This morning I got an email from my mother that Dennis had passed on.
Thoughts of him have flooded my mind. In between tears and chuckles,
I remember a man who has gifted me with more than he probably ever
knew. I remember a man who's influence has permeated me to my core. I
can say readily and easily that I am the person I am today in no
small measure because of Dennis. I will always remember him as the
man who taught me why to be right and when to be wrong. I don't know
if he understood that he was not only gifted teacher, but great
teacher. I hope he knew and I will always remember him as such.

Farewell, Dennis Letts. Your time here was appreciated and I will
always be grateful for your presence in my life.


I got friends who are in prison and Friends who are dead.
I'm gonna tell ya something that I've often said.

You know these things that happen,
That's just the way it's supposed to be.
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Re: [scifinoir2] Bad Movies Conferssion Time Re: Jumper - SPOILER ALERT!!!!!!

2008-02-23 Thread Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)
a...flashback..  OK.  good enough. 

Astromancer wrote:
 I would join in, but you've all heard the Star Crash story...Can't get any 
 worse than that...

 Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  Okay, I'm in...

 Crossworlds, starring a pre-Sports Night Josh Charles, who plays an 
 aimless college student who gets picked up at a party by a hot blonde in a 
 mini-skirt. (That was the first clue for me.)

 Said blonde turns out to be a warrior from another dimension, who's after our 
 hero because of a necklace he has, the last thing he has to remember his dead 
 father by. 

 Said necklace is actually a talisman that can, if wielded properly, allow the 
 user to shape the Cosmos to his or her fancy, travel dimensions at will and 
 other fun stuff. 

 The blonde takes our hero to her mentor, played by Rutger Hauer, whom we're 
 *supposed* to see as a famed and nigh-invincible warrior. (I might've bought 
 it, if not for the fact that I was in better shape than he was, one lung and 
 all.)

 Anyhoo, the adventure just speeds- uh, *meanders* along to its utterly 
 predictable climax. Watchign it, I was grateful for both the ending and the 
 fact that I only paid six bucks for the video.

 tdemorsella [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So gang. It seems like it is a given 
 that some us go to or rent
 movies we pretty much knoware going to be bad. So lets make it a
 confession time and open up about other bad flicks we saw knowing they
 were going to to be bad. 

 I have to think on it, but most recently, I saw Wild Hogs. Don't kick
 me off the list, but I thought the first half was hilarious. I
 watched a really bad one star movie, Cyber Wars also known as Avatar
 or Matrix Hunter. It starred Joseph Lau, David Warner (Jack the
 Ripper, Hog Father), and Joan Chen (twin Peaks) The Plot: In the near
 future in the Asian city-state Sintawan, everyone's identity is
 recorded in the vast CyberLink. The only way around this is using
 illegal simulated identity implants (sims). A young bounty hunter who
 makes her living tracking sims, finds herself the unlikely ally of a
 police detective who suspects the CyberLink is being perverted for an
 insidious and deadly purpose

 Okay, your turn

 tracey

 --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
 Give 'em time, Tracey.

 Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 I saw it. It definitely was not theater
 worthy, but I think it would be 
   
 a great TV show. I love the teleportation concept and some of the 
 mythology and laws were good too. Unfortunately, it came across
 
 like a 
   
 pilot movie for a scifi tv show. To mad it is not a tv series

 ravenadal wrote:
 
 To me, teleportation has always been the coolest of all
   
 superpowers. 
   
 Couple it with a proximity sense, keen hearing (so you can hear 
 when a shot is fired and teleport an instant before it gets there), 
 or just plain common sense and you have one heck of a skill set!

 ~rave!

 --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, DJ VIBE nehesi@ wrote:

   
 
 On Feb 15, 2008 6:31 PM, ravenadal ravenadal@ wrote:
   
 There is a scene in the new Jumper movie (no, I have not seen 
 
 it)

 
 SPOILER

 
 ALERT!!

   
 where the hero is watching the aftermath of the Hurricane 
 
 Karina on

 
 his television. He gets dressed and teleports...to London, 
 
 where he

 
 has a date. So much for great responsibility coming with 
 
 great 

   
 power!

 
 It was right in keeping with how his character was established in 
 the movie, although for a moment there I thought he might think of 
 using his abilities for good. 

 Overall, I found the movie pretty good, with one exception. How 

 
 the 

   
 hell did the Paladins continually catch jumpers? Its one thing if 
 you get the drop on one, but if you're standing in FRONT of one who 
 is fresh and the jumper sees you and you try to get him with your 
 stun-wand, how are you gonna get him? In less than three minutes, 
 my wife and I came up with several ways to use a teleportation 

 
 power 

   
 offesinvely (i.e. teleport in a circle around your opponent a la 
 Nightcrawer. et. al) and in all of those cases we came up with, no 
 normal human would have a chance against a jumper.


 



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Re: [scifinoir2] Blog

2008-02-23 Thread Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)
You essay made me wish he had been one of my professors.  I hope your 
sent this to your mom so she can share this with his family.  It is a 
beautiful tribute.  In the meantime, can we have the link to your my 
space site?

Might I suggest you go rent something he was in?  When somebody I got to 
know during my brief acting/music career stint died, I went out and 
rented a movie he had a part in.  When I miss find my self reminiscing 
about  the old days going on casting calls with my cousin, I check out 
Trading Places.  She was only in it for five minutes - probably less, 
but its my way of having her back for a while.

Tracey

Bosco Bosco wrote:
 I blog on My Space. I generally just do it to mark little places that
 interest me in my life. Today was a little different and I wanted to
 share with the class

 A Man Of Influence 
 Current mood:  sad 


 In the early 1980's my Mother was in graduate school getting a
 Doctorate in English. When she graduated, she took a job at a small
 college in Durant, Ok and I spent my last year of high school there. 

 After dropping out, I got a GED, failed my first semester of college,
 joined the army, got discharged from the Army after basic, and
 basically kind of lived aimlessly for a couple of years. In the mid
 80's, I returned to Durant to make another run at college. I enrolled
 in a course taught by one of my mother's friendliest colleagues. On
 the first day of class, Dennis Letts walked into the room, and
 slammed a gigantic stack of books on the desk. With a pointed and
 wagging finger and a voice focused in an even a more pointed half
 growling tone, he pronounced to the class, Everything you know is
 wrong!  It was the most dramatic entrance by a teacher I have ever
 observed. Dennis spent the rest of the semester showing us that he
 was right. 

 I have known quite a few good teachers in my life. I remember great
 lessons, great lectures, great insights and great inspirations that
 have been offered me by those teachers. Not one among them had more
 impact or influence on me than Dennis Letts. The memory of that first
 day of my first class with Dennis has lived in my mind, brilliant and
 cherished, for more than two decades. 

 I was raised almost from birth to think critically and to examine
 thoughts and ideas. From Dennis, I learned why questioning my own
 opinions and beliefs to determine their value was important. He
 showed me again and again that until my opinions and beliefs have the
 weight of well measured reason behind them, they are by nature
 valueless because they are purposeless.  

 Dennis Letts also recognized in me a talent for writing of which I
 was completely unaware. His encouragment and initial direction
 provided me with a tool that has given me more self confidence and
 strength than he was probably ever aware. Singularly, writing has
 served me well over the years in defining thoughts and feelings.
 Through writing I find a uniquely satisfying way to navigate the
 world when I find it overwhelming, absurd or hilarious. I would never
 have found the way without Dennis Letts.

 I think back now over my experiences with Dennis and I am amazed at
 the way one person's influence continues to resonate through me even
 though it has been literally years upon years since I have seen or
 spoken to him.

 A couple of months back my Mom reported to me that Dennis was very
 very ill. and his time was short. In typical Dennis fashion he spent
 the last bit of his time among the living working creatively. He had
 started an acting career in the 80's and had pursued it with
 determination. I counted 46 different credits under his name on the
 Internet Movie Database. Not too shabby for a guy who began his
 professional acting career in the middle of his life. I am told he
 had dreamed for many years of appearing on Broadway. This year a play
 called August Osage County, written by his son Tracy Letts, debuted
 there and Dennis Letts achieved that dream. It opened to critical
 acclaim and praise. I literally danced when I heard the news of how
 well they had done.

 Over many years now past, I have kept up with Dennis primarily
 through my mother. We've been seperated by time and geography but
 that has not kept kept me from gleefully enjoying tales of his
 exploits and achievements and giggling at the tales of his silliness.
 I was glad to know that he had remained true to his passions and his
 art and that he had lived the life he wanted.

 This morning I got an email from my mother that Dennis had passed on.
 Thoughts of him have flooded my mind. In between tears and chuckles,
 I remember a man who has gifted me with more than he probably ever
 knew. I remember a man who's influence has permeated me to my core. I
 can say readily and easily that I am the person I am today in no
 small measure because of Dennis. I will always remember him as the
 man who taught me why to be right and when to be wrong. I don't know
 if he understood that he 

Re: [scifinoir2] Blog

2008-02-23 Thread Bosco Bosco
Thanks, I did send it to my Mom and some mutual friends.

You can find me at

http://www.myspace.com/boscoworld

B
--- Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 You essay made me wish he had been one of my professors.  I hope
 your 
 sent this to your mom so she can share this with his family.  It is
 a 
 beautiful tribute.  In the meantime, can we have the link to your
 my 
 space site?
 
 Might I suggest you go rent something he was in?  When somebody I
 got to 
 know during my brief acting/music career stint died, I went out and
 
 rented a movie he had a part in.  When I miss find my self
 reminiscing 
 about  the old days going on casting calls with my cousin, I check
 out 
 Trading Places.  She was only in it for five minutes - probably
 less, 
 but its my way of having her back for a while.
 
 Tracey
 
 Bosco Bosco wrote:
  I blog on My Space. I generally just do it to mark little places
 that
  interest me in my life. Today was a little different and I wanted
 to
  share with the class
 
  A Man Of Influence 
  Current mood:  sad 
 
 
  In the early 1980's my Mother was in graduate school getting a
  Doctorate in English. When she graduated, she took a job at a
 small
  college in Durant, Ok and I spent my last year of high school
 there. 
 
  After dropping out, I got a GED, failed my first semester of
 college,
  joined the army, got discharged from the Army after basic, and
  basically kind of lived aimlessly for a couple of years. In the
 mid
  80's, I returned to Durant to make another run at college. I
 enrolled
  in a course taught by one of my mother's friendliest colleagues.
 On
  the first day of class, Dennis Letts walked into the room, and
  slammed a gigantic stack of books on the desk. With a pointed and
  wagging finger and a voice focused in an even a more pointed half
  growling tone, he pronounced to the class, Everything you know
 is
  wrong!  It was the most dramatic entrance by a teacher I have
 ever
  observed. Dennis spent the rest of the semester showing us that
 he
  was right. 
 
  I have known quite a few good teachers in my life. I remember
 great
  lessons, great lectures, great insights and great inspirations
 that
  have been offered me by those teachers. Not one among them had
 more
  impact or influence on me than Dennis Letts. The memory of that
 first
  day of my first class with Dennis has lived in my mind, brilliant
 and
  cherished, for more than two decades. 
 
  I was raised almost from birth to think critically and to examine
  thoughts and ideas. From Dennis, I learned why questioning my own
  opinions and beliefs to determine their value was important. He
  showed me again and again that until my opinions and beliefs have
 the
  weight of well measured reason behind them, they are by nature
  valueless because they are purposeless.  
 
  Dennis Letts also recognized in me a talent for writing of which
 I
  was completely unaware. His encouragment and initial direction
  provided me with a tool that has given me more self confidence
 and
  strength than he was probably ever aware. Singularly, writing has
  served me well over the years in defining thoughts and feelings.
  Through writing I find a uniquely satisfying way to navigate the
  world when I find it overwhelming, absurd or hilarious. I would
 never
  have found the way without Dennis Letts.
 
  I think back now over my experiences with Dennis and I am amazed
 at
  the way one person's influence continues to resonate through me
 even
  though it has been literally years upon years since I have seen
 or
  spoken to him.
 
  A couple of months back my Mom reported to me that Dennis was
 very
  very ill. and his time was short. In typical Dennis fashion he
 spent
  the last bit of his time among the living working creatively. He
 had
  started an acting career in the 80's and had pursued it with
  determination. I counted 46 different credits under his name on
 the
  Internet Movie Database. Not too shabby for a guy who began his
  professional acting career in the middle of his life. I am told
 he
  had dreamed for many years of appearing on Broadway. This year a
 play
  called August Osage County, written by his son Tracy Letts,
 debuted
  there and Dennis Letts achieved that dream. It opened to critical
  acclaim and praise. I literally danced when I heard the news of
 how
  well they had done.
 
  Over many years now past, I have kept up with Dennis primarily
  through my mother. We've been seperated by time and geography but
  that has not kept kept me from gleefully enjoying tales of his
  exploits and achievements and giggling at the tales of his
 silliness.
  I was glad to know that he had remained true to his passions and
 his
  art and that he had lived the life he wanted.
 
  This morning I got an email from my mother that Dennis had passed
 on.
  Thoughts of him have flooded my mind. In between tears and
 chuckles,
  I remember a man who has gifted me with 

Re: [scifinoir2] Blog

2008-02-23 Thread Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)
so what aare you going to watch, Blood Suckers from Outer Space 
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0086980/ , Passenger 57 
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0105104/ , Cast Away 
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt016/, or something else?

Bosco Bosco wrote:
 Thanks, I did send it to my Mom and some mutual friends.

 You can find me at

 http://www.myspace.com/boscoworld

 B
 --- Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   
 You essay made me wish he had been one of my professors.  I hope
 your 
 sent this to your mom so she can share this with his family.  It is
 a 
 beautiful tribute.  In the meantime, can we have the link to your
 my 
 space site?

 Might I suggest you go rent something he was in?  When somebody I
 got to 
 know during my brief acting/music career stint died, I went out and

 rented a movie he had a part in.  When I miss find my self
 reminiscing 
 about  the old days going on casting calls with my cousin, I check
 out 
 Trading Places.  She was only in it for five minutes - probably
 less, 
 but its my way of having her back for a while.

 Tracey

 Bosco Bosco wrote:
 
 I blog on My Space. I generally just do it to mark little places
   
 that
 
 interest me in my life. Today was a little different and I wanted
   
 to
 
 share with the class

 A Man Of Influence 
 Current mood:  sad 


 In the early 1980's my Mother was in graduate school getting a
 Doctorate in English. When she graduated, she took a job at a
   
 small
 
 college in Durant, Ok and I spent my last year of high school
   
 there. 
 
 After dropping out, I got a GED, failed my first semester of
   
 college,
 
 joined the army, got discharged from the Army after basic, and
 basically kind of lived aimlessly for a couple of years. In the
   
 mid
 
 80's, I returned to Durant to make another run at college. I
   
 enrolled
 
 in a course taught by one of my mother's friendliest colleagues.
   
 On
 
 the first day of class, Dennis Letts walked into the room, and
 slammed a gigantic stack of books on the desk. With a pointed and
 wagging finger and a voice focused in an even a more pointed half
 growling tone, he pronounced to the class, Everything you know
   
 is
 
 wrong!  It was the most dramatic entrance by a teacher I have
   
 ever
 
 observed. Dennis spent the rest of the semester showing us that
   
 he
 
 was right. 

 I have known quite a few good teachers in my life. I remember
   
 great
 
 lessons, great lectures, great insights and great inspirations
   
 that
 
 have been offered me by those teachers. Not one among them had
   
 more
 
 impact or influence on me than Dennis Letts. The memory of that
   
 first
 
 day of my first class with Dennis has lived in my mind, brilliant
   
 and
 
 cherished, for more than two decades. 

 I was raised almost from birth to think critically and to examine
 thoughts and ideas. From Dennis, I learned why questioning my own
 opinions and beliefs to determine their value was important. He
 showed me again and again that until my opinions and beliefs have
   
 the
 
 weight of well measured reason behind them, they are by nature
 valueless because they are purposeless.  

 Dennis Letts also recognized in me a talent for writing of which
   
 I
 
 was completely unaware. His encouragment and initial direction
 provided me with a tool that has given me more self confidence
   
 and
 
 strength than he was probably ever aware. Singularly, writing has
 served me well over the years in defining thoughts and feelings.
 Through writing I find a uniquely satisfying way to navigate the
 world when I find it overwhelming, absurd or hilarious. I would
   
 never
 
 have found the way without Dennis Letts.

 I think back now over my experiences with Dennis and I am amazed
   
 at
 
 the way one person's influence continues to resonate through me
   
 even
 
 though it has been literally years upon years since I have seen
   
 or
 
 spoken to him.

 A couple of months back my Mom reported to me that Dennis was
   
 very
 
 very ill. and his time was short. In typical Dennis fashion he
   
 spent
 
 the last bit of his time among the living working creatively. He
   
 had
 
 started an acting career in the 80's and had pursued it with
 determination. I counted 46 different credits under his name on
   
 the
 
 Internet Movie Database. Not too shabby for a guy who began his
 professional acting career in the middle of his life. I am told
   
 he
 
 had dreamed for many years of appearing on Broadway. This year a
   
 play
 
 called August Osage County, written by his son Tracy Letts,
   
 debuted
 
 there and Dennis Letts achieved that dream. It opened to critical
 acclaim and praise. I literally danced when I heard the news of

Re: [scifinoir2] Blog

2008-02-23 Thread Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)
He is on TNT and Oxygen today with Fire Down Below and Where The Heart Is

Bosco Bosco wrote:
 Thanks, I did send it to my Mom and some mutual friends.

 You can find me at

 http://www.myspace.com/boscoworld

 B
 --- Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   
 You essay made me wish he had been one of my professors.  I hope
 your 
 sent this to your mom so she can share this with his family.  It is
 a 
 beautiful tribute.  In the meantime, can we have the link to your
 my 
 space site?

 Might I suggest you go rent something he was in?  When somebody I
 got to 
 know during my brief acting/music career stint died, I went out and

 rented a movie he had a part in.  When I miss find my self
 reminiscing 
 about  the old days going on casting calls with my cousin, I check
 out 
 Trading Places.  She was only in it for five minutes - probably
 less, 
 but its my way of having her back for a while.

 Tracey

 Bosco Bosco wrote:
 
 I blog on My Space. I generally just do it to mark little places
   
 that
 
 interest me in my life. Today was a little different and I wanted
   
 to
 
 share with the class

 A Man Of Influence 
 Current mood:  sad 


 In the early 1980's my Mother was in graduate school getting a
 Doctorate in English. When she graduated, she took a job at a
   
 small
 
 college in Durant, Ok and I spent my last year of high school
   
 there. 
 
 After dropping out, I got a GED, failed my first semester of
   
 college,
 
 joined the army, got discharged from the Army after basic, and
 basically kind of lived aimlessly for a couple of years. In the
   
 mid
 
 80's, I returned to Durant to make another run at college. I
   
 enrolled
 
 in a course taught by one of my mother's friendliest colleagues.
   
 On
 
 the first day of class, Dennis Letts walked into the room, and
 slammed a gigantic stack of books on the desk. With a pointed and
 wagging finger and a voice focused in an even a more pointed half
 growling tone, he pronounced to the class, Everything you know
   
 is
 
 wrong!  It was the most dramatic entrance by a teacher I have
   
 ever
 
 observed. Dennis spent the rest of the semester showing us that
   
 he
 
 was right. 

 I have known quite a few good teachers in my life. I remember
   
 great
 
 lessons, great lectures, great insights and great inspirations
   
 that
 
 have been offered me by those teachers. Not one among them had
   
 more
 
 impact or influence on me than Dennis Letts. The memory of that
   
 first
 
 day of my first class with Dennis has lived in my mind, brilliant
   
 and
 
 cherished, for more than two decades. 

 I was raised almost from birth to think critically and to examine
 thoughts and ideas. From Dennis, I learned why questioning my own
 opinions and beliefs to determine their value was important. He
 showed me again and again that until my opinions and beliefs have
   
 the
 
 weight of well measured reason behind them, they are by nature
 valueless because they are purposeless.  

 Dennis Letts also recognized in me a talent for writing of which
   
 I
 
 was completely unaware. His encouragment and initial direction
 provided me with a tool that has given me more self confidence
   
 and
 
 strength than he was probably ever aware. Singularly, writing has
 served me well over the years in defining thoughts and feelings.
 Through writing I find a uniquely satisfying way to navigate the
 world when I find it overwhelming, absurd or hilarious. I would
   
 never
 
 have found the way without Dennis Letts.

 I think back now over my experiences with Dennis and I am amazed
   
 at
 
 the way one person's influence continues to resonate through me
   
 even
 
 though it has been literally years upon years since I have seen
   
 or
 
 spoken to him.

 A couple of months back my Mom reported to me that Dennis was
   
 very
 
 very ill. and his time was short. In typical Dennis fashion he
   
 spent
 
 the last bit of his time among the living working creatively. He
   
 had
 
 started an acting career in the 80's and had pursued it with
 determination. I counted 46 different credits under his name on
   
 the
 
 Internet Movie Database. Not too shabby for a guy who began his
 professional acting career in the middle of his life. I am told
   
 he
 
 had dreamed for many years of appearing on Broadway. This year a
   
 play
 
 called August Osage County, written by his son Tracy Letts,
   
 debuted
 
 there and Dennis Letts achieved that dream. It opened to critical
 acclaim and praise. I literally danced when I heard the news of
   
 how
 
 well they had done.

 Over many years now past, I have kept up with Dennis primarily
 through my mother. We've been seperated by 

Re: [scifinoir2] Blog

2008-02-23 Thread Bosco Bosco
His Wife wrote the Novel Where The Heart Is. The movie is based on
the book. Oprah made the book one of her book club picks. They're a
talented Family. I'm gonna hang with my oldest son tonight so a movie
may not be on the agenda. I've seen them all. I'll probably just
dwell on my good memories


--- Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 He is on TNT and Oxygen today with Fire Down Below and Where The
 Heart Is
 
 Bosco Bosco wrote:
  Thanks, I did send it to my Mom and some mutual friends.
 
  You can find me at
 
  http://www.myspace.com/boscoworld
 
  B
  --- Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 

  You essay made me wish he had been one of my professors.  I hope
  your 
  sent this to your mom so she can share this with his family.  It
 is
  a 
  beautiful tribute.  In the meantime, can we have the link to
 your
  my 
  space site?
 
  Might I suggest you go rent something he was in?  When somebody
 I
  got to 
  know during my brief acting/music career stint died, I went out
 and
 
  rented a movie he had a part in.  When I miss find my self
  reminiscing 
  about  the old days going on casting calls with my cousin, I
 check
  out 
  Trading Places.  She was only in it for five minutes - probably
  less, 
  but its my way of having her back for a while.
 
  Tracey
 
  Bosco Bosco wrote:
  
  I blog on My Space. I generally just do it to mark little
 places

  that
  
  interest me in my life. Today was a little different and I
 wanted

  to
  
  share with the class
 
  A Man Of Influence 
  Current mood:  sad 
 
 
  In the early 1980's my Mother was in graduate school getting a
  Doctorate in English. When she graduated, she took a job at a

  small
  
  college in Durant, Ok and I spent my last year of high school

  there. 
  
  After dropping out, I got a GED, failed my first semester of

  college,
  
  joined the army, got discharged from the Army after basic, and
  basically kind of lived aimlessly for a couple of years. In the

  mid
  
  80's, I returned to Durant to make another run at college. I

  enrolled
  
  in a course taught by one of my mother's friendliest
 colleagues.

  On
  
  the first day of class, Dennis Letts walked into the room, and
  slammed a gigantic stack of books on the desk. With a pointed
 and
  wagging finger and a voice focused in an even a more pointed
 half
  growling tone, he pronounced to the class, Everything you know

  is
  
  wrong!  It was the most dramatic entrance by a teacher I have

  ever
  
  observed. Dennis spent the rest of the semester showing us that

  he
  
  was right. 
 
  I have known quite a few good teachers in my life. I remember

  great
  
  lessons, great lectures, great insights and great inspirations

  that
  
  have been offered me by those teachers. Not one among them had

  more
  
  impact or influence on me than Dennis Letts. The memory of that

  first
  
  day of my first class with Dennis has lived in my mind,
 brilliant

  and
  
  cherished, for more than two decades. 
 
  I was raised almost from birth to think critically and to
 examine
  thoughts and ideas. From Dennis, I learned why questioning my
 own
  opinions and beliefs to determine their value was important. He
  showed me again and again that until my opinions and beliefs
 have

  the
  
  weight of well measured reason behind them, they are by nature
  valueless because they are purposeless.  
 
  Dennis Letts also recognized in me a talent for writing of
 which

  I
  
  was completely unaware. His encouragment and initial direction
  provided me with a tool that has given me more self confidence

  and
  
  strength than he was probably ever aware. Singularly, writing
 has
  served me well over the years in defining thoughts and
 feelings.
  Through writing I find a uniquely satisfying way to navigate
 the
  world when I find it overwhelming, absurd or hilarious. I would

  never
  
  have found the way without Dennis Letts.
 
  I think back now over my experiences with Dennis and I am
 amazed

  at
  
  the way one person's influence continues to resonate through me

  even
  
  though it has been literally years upon years since I have seen

  or
  
  spoken to him.
 
  A couple of months back my Mom reported to me that Dennis was

  very
  
  very ill. and his time was short. In typical Dennis fashion he

  spent
  
  the last bit of his time among the living working creatively.
 He

  had
  
  started an acting career in the 80's and had pursued it with
  determination. I counted 46 different credits under his name on

  the
  
  Internet Movie Database. 

[scifinoir2] Hubble peers into the Great Eye of Sauron

2008-02-23 Thread ravenadal
Follow link...the photo is quite striking.

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/02/22/fomalhaut_image/

Spectacular dust ring surrounds 'whale's mouth' star

By Lester Haines 

Published Friday 22nd February 2008 17:21 GMT

Astronomers at the University of California, Berkeley, and NASA's
Goddard Space Flight Center have released a rather remarkable Hubble
image of a ring of dust around star Fomalhaut, described by New
Scientist as resembling the Great Eye of Sauron.

Hubble snap of Fomalhaut. Image: NASA

The boffins used the Hubble coronagraph to block light from Fomalhaut
and enhance the ring which, as you can see, is significantly askew.
The reason for this, they postulate, is that the dust ring is under
the influence of orbiting planet (or planets), possibly a body
rotating around the star at approximately Pluto's distance from the
sun, or one-third of the ring's radius.

Fomalhaut, aka Alpha Piscis Austrini, is one of the brightest stars in
the night sky, lying around 25 light years from Earth and weighing in
at roughly 2.3 solar masses. Its name comes from the Arabic fum
al-#295;awt, or whale's mouth, although we reckon Sauron's Eye might
be a suitable new moniker. ®



Re: [scifinoir2] Blog

2008-02-23 Thread Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)
I saw her movie last year and enjoyed it

Bosco Bosco wrote:
 His Wife wrote the Novel Where The Heart Is. The movie is based on
 the book. Oprah made the book one of her book club picks. They're a
 talented Family. I'm gonna hang with my oldest son tonight so a movie
 may not be on the agenda. I've seen them all. I'll probably just
 dwell on my good memories


 --- Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   
 He is on TNT and Oxygen today with Fire Down Below and Where The
 Heart Is

 Bosco Bosco wrote:
 
 Thanks, I did send it to my Mom and some mutual friends.

 You can find me at

 http://www.myspace.com/boscoworld

 B
 --- Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   
   
 You essay made me wish he had been one of my professors.  I hope
 your 
 sent this to your mom so she can share this with his family.  It
 
 is
 
 a 
 beautiful tribute.  In the meantime, can we have the link to
 
 your
 
 my 
 space site?

 Might I suggest you go rent something he was in?  When somebody
 
 I
 
 got to 
 know during my brief acting/music career stint died, I went out
 
 and
 
 rented a movie he had a part in.  When I miss find my self
 reminiscing 
 about  the old days going on casting calls with my cousin, I
 
 check
 
 out 
 Trading Places.  She was only in it for five minutes - probably
 less, 
 but its my way of having her back for a while.

 Tracey

 Bosco Bosco wrote:
 
 
 I blog on My Space. I generally just do it to mark little
   
 places
 
   
   
 that
 
 
 interest me in my life. Today was a little different and I
   
 wanted
 
   
   
 to
 
 
 share with the class

 A Man Of Influence 
 Current mood:  sad 


 In the early 1980's my Mother was in graduate school getting a
 Doctorate in English. When she graduated, she took a job at a
   
   
 small
 
 
 college in Durant, Ok and I spent my last year of high school
   
   
 there. 
 
 
 After dropping out, I got a GED, failed my first semester of
   
   
 college,
 
 
 joined the army, got discharged from the Army after basic, and
 basically kind of lived aimlessly for a couple of years. In the
   
   
 mid
 
 
 80's, I returned to Durant to make another run at college. I
   
   
 enrolled
 
 
 in a course taught by one of my mother's friendliest
   
 colleagues.
 
   
   
 On
 
 
 the first day of class, Dennis Letts walked into the room, and
 slammed a gigantic stack of books on the desk. With a pointed
   
 and
 
 wagging finger and a voice focused in an even a more pointed
   
 half
 
 growling tone, he pronounced to the class, Everything you know
   
   
 is
 
 
 wrong!  It was the most dramatic entrance by a teacher I have
   
   
 ever
 
 
 observed. Dennis spent the rest of the semester showing us that
   
   
 he
 
 
 was right. 

 I have known quite a few good teachers in my life. I remember
   
   
 great
 
 
 lessons, great lectures, great insights and great inspirations
   
   
 that
 
 
 have been offered me by those teachers. Not one among them had
   
   
 more
 
 
 impact or influence on me than Dennis Letts. The memory of that
   
   
 first
 
 
 day of my first class with Dennis has lived in my mind,
   
 brilliant
 
   
   
 and
 
 
 cherished, for more than two decades. 

 I was raised almost from birth to think critically and to
   
 examine
 
 thoughts and ideas. From Dennis, I learned why questioning my
   
 own
 
 opinions and beliefs to determine their value was important. He
 showed me again and again that until my opinions and beliefs
   
 have
 
   
   
 the
 
 
 weight of well measured reason behind them, they are by nature
 valueless because they are purposeless.  

 Dennis Letts also recognized in me a talent for writing of
   
 which
 
   
   
 I
 
 
 was completely unaware. His encouragment and initial direction
 provided me with a tool that has given me more self confidence
   
   
 and
 
 
 strength than he was probably ever aware. Singularly, writing
   
 has
 
 served me well over the years in defining thoughts and
   
 feelings.
 
 Through writing I find a uniquely satisfying way to navigate
   
 the
 
 world when I find it overwhelming, absurd or hilarious. I would
   
   
 never
 
 
 have found the way without Dennis Letts.

 I think back now over 

[scifinoir2] The Two Faces of Barak

2008-02-23 Thread ravenadal
Striking picture of Barak as Borg.

http://current.com/items/88850541_the_two_faces_of_barak




Re: [scifinoir2] News For Martha Jones Fans - Dr. Who/torchwoord

2008-02-23 Thread KeithBJohnson

what ep or eps do I need to see to get the scoop?
-- Original message -- 
From: Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] 

 Something happened when Jack died and at the end of the episode you saw, 
 he was still alive. Now he can't die. In fact, he and Rose have met 
 him when they travel to the future. They just do not know it is him. I 
 can not tell you more because it is a spoiler 
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
  What's the premise of Torchwood? I only just now caught up on the eps of 
  Dr. 
 Who were Rose was trapped on the alternate Earth with her mom, sometimes 
 boyfriend, and alternate reality father. I saw the first four or five eps of 
 the season with Martha, but that's it. I remember some references to 
 Torchwood 
 in the show. But didn't Captain Jack die in Dr. Who? How is he alive, what is 
 Torchwood, and how did it come to exist in our time? 
  
  -- Original message -- 
  From: Martin 
  Gymfig, the BBC is capitalizing on her unexpected popularity by 
  split-tining 
 her between Torchwood and DW. She'll be in those eps on Torchwood, then 
 return to be the Doctor's co-companion with Catherine Tate for the rest of 
 S4. 
  
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
  In a message dated 2/22/2008 7:12:33 PM Eastern Standard Time, 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: 
  
  season of Doctor Who, she will have an additional three-episode run on 
  the adult-themed spinoff for BBC Two and BBC America, Torchwood. 
  
  I love Torchwood. I heard about this on the sci fi channel. I am glad that 
  she is back but I am sad that she is only back for three episodes. 
  
  
  I still don't understand what is the big deal with Capt. Jack. He does not 
  seem to be that cold leader his character is supposed to be. It is quite 
  laughable to see him be threatening. 
  
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[scifinoir2] [Fwd: RE: Surprising nature flick ~ amazing and unexpected finish]

2008-02-23 Thread Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)

You got to see this!
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Subject:RE: Surprising nature flick ~ amazing and unexpected finish
Date:   Mon, 18 Feb 2008 23:26:41 -0800
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Re: [scifinoir2] News For Martha Jones Fans - Dr. Who/torchwoord

2008-02-23 Thread Gymfig
Torchwood is an origination that monitors alien and strange happenings. It 
keeps the world safe. There is a rift in Cardiff Wales and a lot of things come 
through. So they keep track of it. Capt Jack cannot die. He is a time agent, 
not a time lord. He is somewhat reformed. 
 
_http://www.bbc.co.uk/torchwood/_ (http://www.bbc.co.uk/torchwood/) 



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[scifinoir2] Star Trek/Brokeback Mountain Mashup

2008-02-23 Thread ravenadal
http://current.com/items/88849584_star_trek_brokeback_mountain_mashup



Re: [scifinoir2] News For Martha Jones Fans - Dr. Who/torchwoord

2008-02-23 Thread Gymfig
I love the writing because I love the banter. Very few writers can write 
under the breath dialogue. 



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Re: [scifinoir2] News For Martha Jones Fans - Dr. Who/torchwoord

2008-02-23 Thread Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)
The last three or four episodes of last season that have Martha and Capt 
Jack in them.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 what ep or eps do I need to see to get the scoop?
 -- Original message -- 
 From: Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] 

   
 Something happened when Jack died and at the end of the episode you saw, 
 he was still alive. Now he can't die. In fact, he and Rose have met 
 him when they travel to the future. They just do not know it is him. I 
 can not tell you more because it is a spoiler 

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
 
 What's the premise of Torchwood? I only just now caught up on the eps of 
 Dr. 
   
 Who were Rose was trapped on the alternate Earth with her mom, sometimes 
 boyfriend, and alternate reality father. I saw the first four or five eps of 
 the season with Martha, but that's it. I remember some references to 
 Torchwood 
 in the show. But didn't Captain Jack die in Dr. Who? How is he alive, what 
 is 
 Torchwood, and how did it come to exist in our time? 
 
 -- Original message -- 
 From: Martin 
 Gymfig, the BBC is capitalizing on her unexpected popularity by 
 split-tining 
   
 her between Torchwood and DW. She'll be in those eps on Torchwood, 
 then 
 return to be the Doctor's co-companion with Catherine Tate for the rest of 
 S4. 
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
 In a message dated 2/22/2008 7:12:33 PM Eastern Standard Time, 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: 

 season of Doctor Who, she will have an additional three-episode run on 
 the adult-themed spinoff for BBC Two and BBC America, Torchwood. 

 I love Torchwood. I heard about this on the sci fi channel. I am glad that 
 she is back but I am sad that she is only back for three episodes. 


 I still don't understand what is the big deal with Capt. Jack. He does not 
 seem to be that cold leader his character is supposed to be. It is quite 
 laughable to see him be threatening. 

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Re: [scifinoir2] News For Martha Jones Fans - Dr. Who/torchwoord

2008-02-23 Thread Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)
I do not remember which episode he died in, but I think it was one of 
the Bad Wolf episodes with the reality tv theme

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 what ep or eps do I need to see to get the scoop?
 -- Original message -- 
 From: Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] 

   
 Something happened when Jack died and at the end of the episode you saw, 
 he was still alive. Now he can't die. In fact, he and Rose have met 
 him when they travel to the future. They just do not know it is him. I 
 can not tell you more because it is a spoiler 

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
 
 What's the premise of Torchwood? I only just now caught up on the eps of 
 Dr. 
   
 Who were Rose was trapped on the alternate Earth with her mom, sometimes 
 boyfriend, and alternate reality father. I saw the first four or five eps of 
 the season with Martha, but that's it. I remember some references to 
 Torchwood 
 in the show. But didn't Captain Jack die in Dr. Who? How is he alive, what 
 is 
 Torchwood, and how did it come to exist in our time? 
 
 -- Original message -- 
 From: Martin 
 Gymfig, the BBC is capitalizing on her unexpected popularity by 
 split-tining 
   
 her between Torchwood and DW. She'll be in those eps on Torchwood, 
 then 
 return to be the Doctor's co-companion with Catherine Tate for the rest of 
 S4. 
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
 In a message dated 2/22/2008 7:12:33 PM Eastern Standard Time, 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: 

 season of Doctor Who, she will have an additional three-episode run on 
 the adult-themed spinoff for BBC Two and BBC America, Torchwood. 

 I love Torchwood. I heard about this on the sci fi channel. I am glad that 
 she is back but I am sad that she is only back for three episodes. 


 I still don't understand what is the big deal with Capt. Jack. He does not 
 seem to be that cold leader his character is supposed to be. It is quite 
 laughable to see him be threatening. 

 **Ideas to please picky eaters. Watch video on AOL Living. 

   
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Re: [scifinoir2] News For Martha Jones Fans - Dr. Who/torchwoord

2008-02-23 Thread Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)
The first episode I saw discussing Torchwood is the episode in which the 
Doctor and Rose go back in time and meet Queen Elizabeth and encounter a 
werewolf. The queen set up Torchwood after that encounter

Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) wrote:
 I do not remember which episode he died in, but I think it was one of 
 the Bad Wolf episodes with the reality tv theme
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 what ep or eps do I need to see to get the scoop?
 -- Original message -- 
 From: Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] 

   
 Something happened when Jack died and at the end of the episode you saw, 
 he was still alive. Now he can't die. In fact, he and Rose have met 
 him when they travel to the future. They just do not know it is him. I 
 can not tell you more because it is a spoiler 

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
 
 What's the premise of Torchwood? I only just now caught up on the eps of 
 Dr. 
   
 Who were Rose was trapped on the alternate Earth with her mom, sometimes 
 boyfriend, and alternate reality father. I saw the first four or five eps 
 of 
 the season with Martha, but that's it. I remember some references to 
 Torchwood 
 in the show. But didn't Captain Jack die in Dr. Who? How is he alive, what 
 is 
 Torchwood, and how did it come to exist in our time? 
 
 -- Original message -- 
 From: Martin 
 Gymfig, the BBC is capitalizing on her unexpected popularity by 
 split-tining 
   
 her between Torchwood and DW. She'll be in those eps on Torchwood, 
 then 
 return to be the Doctor's co-companion with Catherine Tate for the rest of 
 S4. 
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
 In a message dated 2/22/2008 7:12:33 PM Eastern Standard Time, 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: 

 season of Doctor Who, she will have an additional three-episode run on 
 the adult-themed spinoff for BBC Two and BBC America, Torchwood. 

 I love Torchwood. I heard about this on the sci fi channel. I am glad that 
 she is back but I am sad that she is only back for three episodes. 


 I still don't understand what is the big deal with Capt. Jack. He does not 
 seem to be that cold leader his character is supposed to be. It is quite 
 laughable to see him be threatening. 

 **Ideas to please picky eaters. Watch video on AOL Living. 

   
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Re: [scifinoir2]netflix

2008-02-23 Thread Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)
What do you mean?  Provide a link, I will join

Bosco Bosco wrote:
 Aloha

 I'm looking for netflix friends. Drop me a line if you're interested

 Bosco

 I got friends who are in prison and Friends who are dead.
 I'm gonna tell ya something that I've often said.

 You know these things that happen,
 That's just the way it's supposed to be.
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Re: [scifinoir2] McCain hopes Castro to meet Marx soon

2008-02-23 Thread Martin
Tracey, the man's *always* been odd. 

He was a stellar underachiever at Annapolis, barely graduated, wore the 
near-singular dishonor of being in the Century Club every year he spent on the 
Yard (that's having 100+ demerits per year, which requires being a total 
f*ck-up), was a lousy junior officer riding his daddy's coattails (daddy was a 
captain in the Navy at the time McCain was on the Yard, and eventually retired 
a two-star admiral. What shaped him up in any way was being a POW. It's also 
what really put him over the edge. For his conduct as a POW alone (refusing to 
eb released from captivity just because he was offered it based on his daddy's 
rank), I respect him.

Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  
 I know they make jokes about his age all the time, but 
his speeches, 
 jokes, quotes and interviews have a different, off kilter ...  wacko.  Sorry
 
 I saw him on the daily show and a few other interview shows last summer 
 and he did not sound so nutty. I did not agree with anything he said, 
 but he seemed to be sane.  Now he looks frail and really sounds out 
 there.  Is it possible he has dementia or is he just dementia and no 
 longer afraid to let his demented side out.
 
 Martin wrote:
  It's not safe to have this man anywhere inside the Beltway.
 
  Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I 
  can't believe I used to admire this guy for his indepence.  He is 
  truly scary
 
  Martin wrote:

  John McCain, USNA '58. We're so proud of him. :P
 
  Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)  wrote: By Jason Szep Fri 
  Feb 22, 11:34 AM ET
  http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080222/od_uk_nm/oukoe_uk_usa_politics_mccain_castro;_ylt=AmvlgDEPu9NzP1gcKIAEaHztiBIF
  INDIANAPOLIS (Reuters) - Republican presidential front-runner John 
  McCain suggested on Friday that he hoped retired Cuban leader Fidel 
  Castro would die soon and said Castro's brother will be a worse leader.
 
 
  I hope he has the opportunity to meet Karl Marx very soon, McCain told 
  a town-hall style meeting of about 150 people, referring to communist 
  theoretician Marx who died on March 14, 1883.
 
  Castro, 81, announced on Tuesday he was stepping down as president and 
  commander-in-chief of Cuba's armed forces after 49 years in power. His 
  brother Raul Castro is expected to be named Cuba's new head of state on 
  Sunday.
 
  Apparently he is trying to groom his brother Raul, McCain said. Raul 
  is worse in many respects than Fidel was.
 
  Castro has not appeared in public since undergoing stomach surgery and 
  handing power temporarily to Raul in July 2006.
 
  McCain, a four-term Arizona senator, has an almost insurmountable lead 
  over his last major Republican rival, former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee.
 
  McCain's approach to Cuba has generally echoed that of U.S. President 
  George W. Bush, who has tightened a decades-long trade embargo and has 
  rejected easing sanctions without a transition to democracy.
 
  McCain, who is popular among conservative Cuban-Americans, also has said 
  that if he wins the November 4 U.S. presidential election he would keep 
  up pressure for political change in Cuba's one-party state.
 
  That includes a travel ban and trade and financial sanctions enforced a 
  few years after Castro's 1959 revolution on the Caribbean island.
 
  McCain, 71, a former prisoner of war in Vietnam, has accused Cubans of 
  participating in the torture of some of his fellow prisoners in Hanoi 
  during the Vietnam War.
 
  (To read more about the U.S. political campaign, visit Reuters Tales 
  from the Trail: 2008 online at http://blogs.reuters.com/trail08/)
 
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Re: [scifinoir2] News For Martha Jones Fans - Dr. Who/torchwoord

2008-02-23 Thread Martin
Keith, I can't remember whether this was answered for you or not. Let me know 
if it wasn't.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:   What's the premise of 
Torchwood? I only just now caught up on the eps of Dr. Who were Rose was 
trapped on the alternate Earth with her mom, sometimes boyfriend, and alternate 
reality father.  I saw the first four or five eps of the season with Martha, 
but that's it. I remember some references to Torchwood in the show. But didn't 
Captain Jack die in Dr. Who? How is he alive, what is Torchwood, and how did it 
come to exist in our time?
 
 -- Original message -- 
 From: Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Gymfig, the BBC is capitalizing on her unexpected popularity by split-tining 
her between Torchwood and DW. She'll be in those eps on Torchwood, then 
return to be the Doctor's co-companion with Catherine Tate for the rest of S4.
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
 In a message dated 2/22/2008 7:12:33 PM Eastern Standard Time, 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
 season of Doctor Who, she will have an additional three-episode run on 
 the adult-themed spinoff for BBC Two and BBC America, Torchwood.
 
 I love Torchwood. I heard about this on the sci fi channel. I am glad that 
 she is back but I am sad that she is only back for three episodes. 
 
 I still don't understand what is the big deal with Capt. Jack. He does not 
 seem to be that cold leader his character is supposed to be. It is quite 
 laughable to see him be threatening. 
 
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Re: [scifinoir2] News For Martha Jones Fans - Dr. Who/torchwoord

2008-02-23 Thread Gymfig
 
In a message dated 2/23/2008 8:43:51 PM Eastern Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

The first episode I saw discussing Torchwood is the episode in which the 
Doctor and Rose go back in time and meet Queen Elizabeth and encounter a 
werewolf. The queen set up Torchwood after that encounter

Oh yea. I also remember the episode when Torchwood destroyed an alien ever 
though the alien meant no harm. Their job is to protect Great Britain at all 
cost. 



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[scifinoir2] Obama Wins Democrats Abroad Primary - 11th Win in a Row

2008-02-23 Thread ravenadal
http://current.com/items/88848651_overseas_primary_gives_obama_his_11th_straight_win

Obama Wins Democrats Abroad Primary

By STEPHEN OHLEMACHER – 2 days ago

WASHINGTON (AP) — Barack Obama won the Democrats Abroad global primary
in results announced Thursday, giving him 11 straight victories in the
race for the Democratic presidential nomination.

The Illinois senator won the primary in which Democrats living in
other countries voted by Internet, mail and in person, according to
results released by the Democrats Abroad, an organization sanctioned
by the national party.

Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton has not won a nominating contest since
Super Tuesday, more than two weeks ago.

More than 20,000 U.S. citizens living abroad voted in the primary,
which ran from Feb. 5 to Feb. 12. Obama won about 65 percent of the
vote, according to the results released Thursday.

Voters living in 164 countries cast votes online, while expatriates
voted in person in more than 30 countries, at hotels in Australia and
Costa Rica, at a pub in Ireland and at a Starbucks in Thailand. The
results took about a week to tabulate as local committees around the
globe gathered ballots.

This really gives Americans an opportunity to participate, said
Christine Schon Marques, the international chair of Democrats Abroad.

Italian Sports Minister Giovanna Melandri, who has dual citizenship,
cast a vote for Obama in Rome.

It wasn't an easy choice for me. I would still love seeing a ticket
with Obama and Hillary (Clinton), Melandri told The Associated Press
in a telephone interview. A drive for change is what is needed in the
U.S. and I think that Obama has that drive.

There is no comparable primary among Republicans, though the GOP has
several contests this weekend in U.S. territories, including party
caucuses in Puerto Rico Sunday.

The Democrats Abroad controls seven pledged delegates at the party's
national convention this summer. However, the group's system of
dividing the delegates is unique, and could create an anomaly in which
Obama and Clinton end up with fractions of delegates.

The party will send 14 pledged delegates to the convention, each with
a half vote. The primary was used to determine nine people, or the
equivalent of 4.5 delegates. Obama won 2.5 and Clinton won two,
according to Schon Marques.

The Democrats Abroad will hold a global convention in Vancouver,
Canada, in April to select the other five people who will attend the
convention. They will represent the remaining 2.5 votes.

The system creates the possibility that Obama and Clinton could each
end up with an extra half vote at the convention, Schon Marques said.

Democratic parties in U.S. territories use similar systems, in which
they send twice the number of delegates, giving them each a half vote.
But their systems are designed to ensure that that candidates do not
end up with fractions of delegates.

Heading into the Democrats Abroad primary, Obama led with 1,351
delegates, and Clinton had 1,262.




Re: [scifinoir2] News For Martha Jones Fans - Dr. Who/torchwoord

2008-02-23 Thread Martin
Keith, the eps that present the spoilers Tracey's thinking of are Utopia and 
Time Crash. The former explains the reason Captain jack can't die, and the 
latter is the Big Bomb. BIG Bomb.

Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The 
first episode I saw discussing Torchwood is the episode in which the 
Doctor and Rose go back in time and meet Queen Elizabeth and encounter a 
werewolf. The queen set up Torchwood after that encounter

Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) wrote:
 I do not remember which episode he died in, but I think it was one of 
 the Bad Wolf episodes with the reality tv theme
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 what ep or eps do I need to see to get the scoop?
 -- Original message -- 
 From: Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)  

   
 Something happened when Jack died and at the end of the episode you saw, 
 he was still alive. Now he can't die. In fact, he and Rose have met 
 him when they travel to the future. They just do not know it is him. I 
 can not tell you more because it is a spoiler 

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
 
 What's the premise of Torchwood? I only just now caught up on the eps of 
 Dr. 
   
 Who were Rose was trapped on the alternate Earth with her mom, sometimes 
 boyfriend, and alternate reality father. I saw the first four or five eps 
 of 
 the season with Martha, but that's it. I remember some references to 
 Torchwood 
 in the show. But didn't Captain Jack die in Dr. Who? How is he alive, what 
 is 
 Torchwood, and how did it come to exist in our time? 
 
 -- Original message -- 
 From: Martin 
 Gymfig, the BBC is capitalizing on her unexpected popularity by 
 split-tining 
   
 her between Torchwood and DW. She'll be in those eps on Torchwood, 
 then 
 return to be the Doctor's co-companion with Catherine Tate for the rest of 
 S4. 
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
 In a message dated 2/22/2008 7:12:33 PM Eastern Standard Time, 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: 

 season of Doctor Who, she will have an additional three-episode run on 
 the adult-themed spinoff for BBC Two and BBC America, Torchwood. 

 I love Torchwood. I heard about this on the sci fi channel. I am glad that 
 she is back but I am sad that she is only back for three episodes. 


 I still don't understand what is the big deal with Capt. Jack. He does not 
 seem to be that cold leader his character is supposed to be. It is quite 
 laughable to see him be threatening. 

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Re: [scifinoir2] News For Martha Jones Fans - Dr. Who/torchwoord

2008-02-23 Thread Martin
Tracey, Keith, that ep was Bad Wolf.

Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  
 I do not remember which episode he died in, but I 
think it was one of 
 the Bad Wolf episodes with the reality tv theme
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  what ep or eps do I need to see to get the scoop?
  -- Original message -- 
  From: Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 

  Something happened when Jack died and at the end of the episode you saw, 
  he was still alive. Now he can't die. In fact, he and Rose have met 
  him when they travel to the future. They just do not know it is him. I 
  can not tell you more because it is a spoiler 
 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
  
  What's the premise of Torchwood? I only just now caught up on the eps of 
  Dr. 

  Who were Rose was trapped on the alternate Earth with her mom, sometimes 
  boyfriend, and alternate reality father. I saw the first four or five eps 
  of 
  the season with Martha, but that's it. I remember some references to 
  Torchwood 
  in the show. But didn't Captain Jack die in Dr. Who? How is he alive, what 
  is 
  Torchwood, and how did it come to exist in our time? 
  
  -- Original message -- 
  From: Martin 
  Gymfig, the BBC is capitalizing on her unexpected popularity by 
  split-tining 

  her between Torchwood and DW. She'll be in those eps on Torchwood, 
  then 
  return to be the Doctor's co-companion with Catherine Tate for the rest of 
  S4. 
  
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
  In a message dated 2/22/2008 7:12:33 PM Eastern Standard Time, 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: 
 
  season of Doctor Who, she will have an additional three-episode run on 
  the adult-themed spinoff for BBC Two and BBC America, Torchwood. 
 
  I love Torchwood. I heard about this on the sci fi channel. I am glad that 
  she is back but I am sad that she is only back for three episodes. 
 
 
  I still don't understand what is the big deal with Capt. Jack. He does not 
  seem to be that cold leader his character is supposed to be. It is quite 
  laughable to see him be threatening. 
 
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Re: [scifinoir2] Bad Movies Conferssion Time Re: Jumper - SPOILER ALERT!!!!!!

2008-02-23 Thread Martin
A...I feel better already remembering that. Thanks, pal!

Astromancer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:   I would 
join in, but you've all heard the Star Crash story...Can't get any worse than 
that...
 
 Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  Okay, I'm in...
 
 Crossworlds, starring a pre-Sports Night Josh Charles, who plays an 
aimless college student who gets picked up at a party by a hot blonde in a 
mini-skirt. (That was the first clue for me.)
 
 Said blonde turns out to be a warrior from another dimension, who's after our 
hero because of a necklace he has, the last thing he has to remember his dead 
father by. 
 
 Said necklace is actually a talisman that can, if wielded properly, allow the 
user to shape the Cosmos to his or her fancy, travel dimensions at will and 
other fun stuff. 
 
 The blonde takes our hero to her mentor, played by Rutger Hauer, whom we're 
*supposed* to see as a famed and nigh-invincible warrior. (I might've bought 
it, if not for the fact that I was in better shape than he was, one lung and 
all.)
 
 Anyhoo, the adventure just speeds- uh, *meanders* along to its utterly 
predictable climax. Watchign it, I was grateful for both the ending and the 
fact that I only paid six bucks for the video.
 
 tdemorsella [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So gang. It seems like it is a given 
that some us go to or rent
 movies we pretty much knoware going to be bad. So lets make it a
 confession time and open up about other bad flicks we saw knowing they
 were going to to be bad. 
 
 I have to think on it, but most recently, I saw Wild Hogs. Don't kick
 me off the list, but I thought the first half was hilarious. I
 watched a really bad one star movie, Cyber Wars also known as Avatar
 or Matrix Hunter. It starred Joseph Lau, David Warner (Jack the
 Ripper, Hog Father), and Joan Chen (twin Peaks) The Plot: In the near
 future in the Asian city-state Sintawan, everyone's identity is
 recorded in the vast CyberLink. The only way around this is using
 illegal simulated identity implants (sims). A young bounty hunter who
 makes her living tracking sims, finds herself the unlikely ally of a
 police detective who suspects the CyberLink is being perverted for an
 insidious and deadly purpose
 
 Okay, your turn
 
 tracey
 
 --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Give 'em time, Tracey.
  
  Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I saw it. It definitely was not theater
 worthy, but I think it would be 
  a great TV show. I love the teleportation concept and some of the 
  mythology and laws were good too. Unfortunately, it came across
 like a 
  pilot movie for a scifi tv show. To mad it is not a tv series
  
  ravenadal wrote:
   To me, teleportation has always been the coolest of all
 superpowers. 
   Couple it with a proximity sense, keen hearing (so you can hear 
   when a shot is fired and teleport an instant before it gets there), 
   or just plain common sense and you have one heck of a skill set!
  
   ~rave!
  
   --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, DJ VIBE nehesi@ wrote:
   
   
   
   On Feb 15, 2008 6:31 PM, ravenadal ravenadal@ wrote:
   
   
There is a scene in the new Jumper movie (no, I have not seen 
   
   it)
   
   
SPOILER

   
   ALERT!!
   
   
where the hero is watching the aftermath of the Hurricane 
   
   Karina on
   
his television. He gets dressed and teleports...to London, 
   
   where he
   
has a date. So much for great responsibility coming with 
   
   great 
   
   power!
   
   
   
   It was right in keeping with how his character was established in 
   the movie, although for a moment there I thought he might think of 
   using his abilities for good. 
  
   Overall, I found the movie pretty good, with one exception. How 
   
   the 
   
   hell did the Paladins continually catch jumpers? Its one thing if 
   you get the drop on one, but if you're standing in FRONT of one who 
   is fresh and the jumper sees you and you try to get him with your 
   stun-wand, how are you gonna get him? In less than three minutes, 
   my wife and I came up with several ways to use a teleportation 
   
   power 
   
   offesinvely (i.e. teleport in a circle around your opponent a la 
   Nightcrawer. et. al) and in all of those cases we came up with, no 
   normal human would have a chance against a jumper.
  
   
  
  
  
  
   
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Re: [scifinoir2] News For Martha Jones Fans - Dr. Who/torchwoord

2008-02-23 Thread Gymfig
In the episode that he meets Rose, he talks about his problem. The episode 
that is on now is pretty good.  Very good stores centering on other teammates. 
It is not always about Capt Jack. 



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Re: [scifinoir2] [Fwd: RE: Surprising nature flick ~ amazing and unexpected finish]

2008-02-23 Thread KeithBJohnson
amazing. did you watch the Planet Earth series? If so, did you see the 
nighttime attack of the lions on that elephant? As they attacked it, the 
night-blind elephant panics as the desperately hungry lions keep striking it, 
finally bringing it down. Absolutely phenomenal

-- Original message -- 
From: Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] 

 
 You got to see this! 
  Original Message  
 Subject: RE: Surprising nature flick ~ amazing and unexpected finish 
 Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 23:26:41 -0800 
 From: Chris de Morsella 
 To: Tracey de Morsella , 'paul 
 demorsella' , 'julia demorsella' , 
 Rae , 'Loyd Atwood' 
 
 
 
 http://www.newscientist.com/blog/shortsharpscience/2008/02/lions-versus-buffaloe
  
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Re: [scifinoir2] News For Martha Jones Fans - Dr. Who/torchwoord

2008-02-23 Thread KeithBJohnson
okay, thanks

-- Original message -- 
From: Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
The last three or four episodes of last season that have Martha and Capt 
Jack in them.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 what ep or eps do I need to see to get the scoop?
 -- Original message -- 
 From: Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] 

 
 Something happened when Jack died and at the end of the episode you saw, 
 he was still alive. Now he can't die. In fact, he and Rose have met 
 him when they travel to the future. They just do not know it is him. I 
 can not tell you more because it is a spoiler 

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
 
 What's the premise of Torchwood? I only just now caught up on the eps of 
 Dr. 
 
 Who were Rose was trapped on the alternate Earth with her mom, sometimes 
 boyfriend, and alternate reality father. I saw the first four or five eps of 
 the season with Martha, but that's it. I remember some references to 
 Torchwood 
 in the show. But didn't Captain Jack die in Dr. Who? How is he alive, what 
 is 
 Torchwood, and how did it come to exist in our time? 
 
 -- Original message -- 
 From: Martin 
 Gymfig, the BBC is capitalizing on her unexpected popularity by 
 split-tining 
 
 her between Torchwood and DW. She'll be in those eps on Torchwood, 
 then 
 return to be the Doctor's co-companion with Catherine Tate for the rest of 
 S4. 
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
 In a message dated 2/22/2008 7:12:33 PM Eastern Standard Time, 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: 

 season of Doctor Who, she will have an additional three-episode run on 
 the adult-themed spinoff for BBC Two and BBC America, Torchwood. 

 I love Torchwood. I heard about this on the sci fi channel. I am glad that 
 she is back but I am sad that she is only back for three episodes. 


 I still don't understand what is the big deal with Capt. Jack. He does not 
 seem to be that cold leader his character is supposed to be. It is quite 
 laughable to see him be threatening. 

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Re: [scifinoir2] News For Martha Jones Fans - Dr. Who/torchwoord

2008-02-23 Thread KeithBJohnson
thanks for the info

-- Original message -- 
From: Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Keith, the eps that present the spoilers Tracey's thinking of are Utopia and 
Time Crash. The former explains the reason Captain jack can't die, and the 
latter is the Big Bomb. BIG Bomb.

Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The 
first episode I saw discussing Torchwood is the episode in which the 
Doctor and Rose go back in time and meet Queen Elizabeth and encounter a 
werewolf. The queen set up Torchwood after that encounter

Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) wrote:
 I do not remember which episode he died in, but I think it was one of 
 the Bad Wolf episodes with the reality tv theme
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 what ep or eps do I need to see to get the scoop?
 -- Original message -- 
 From: Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) 

 
 Something happened when Jack died and at the end of the episode you saw, 
 he was still alive. Now he can't die. In fact, he and Rose have met 
 him when they travel to the future. They just do not know it is him. I 
 can not tell you more because it is a spoiler 

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
 
 What's the premise of Torchwood? I only just now caught up on the eps of 
 Dr. 
 
 Who were Rose was trapped on the alternate Earth with her mom, sometimes 
 boyfriend, and alternate reality father. I saw the first four or five eps 
 of 
 the season with Martha, but that's it. I remember some references to 
 Torchwood 
 in the show. But didn't Captain Jack die in Dr. Who? How is he alive, what 
 is 
 Torchwood, and how did it come to exist in our time? 
 
 -- Original message -- 
 From: Martin 
 Gymfig, the BBC is capitalizing on her unexpected popularity by 
 split-tining 
 
 her between Torchwood and DW. She'll be in those eps on Torchwood, 
 then 
 return to be the Doctor's co-companion with Catherine Tate for the rest of 
 S4. 
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
 In a message dated 2/22/2008 7:12:33 PM Eastern Standard Time, 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: 

 season of Doctor Who, she will have an additional three-episode run on 
 the adult-themed spinoff for BBC Two and BBC America, Torchwood. 

 I love Torchwood. I heard about this on the sci fi channel. I am glad that 
 she is back but I am sad that she is only back for three episodes. 


 I still don't understand what is the big deal with Capt. Jack. He does not 
 seem to be that cold leader his character is supposed to be. It is quite 
 laughable to see him be threatening. 

 **Ideas to please picky eaters. Watch video on AOL Living. 

 
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[scifinoir2] Re: It's Over for Jericho

2008-02-23 Thread B. Smith
I was still watching. I think the network's scheduling decisions
doomed the show. Killing off one of the main characters in the season
finale seems to have hurt the show as well.

--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I posted an e-mail the day the show was returning, then posted a
follow up asking if anyone here was watching. Only one reply, and that
was from Gymfig, who doesn't watch the show at all. Is anyone here
watching it?
 
 I also have to repeat my complaint at CBS' not showing the entire
series again in the weeks leading up to the return. That irritates me.
I watched the whole series, but missed the last three eps and didn't
want to watch them on my laptop. I was waiting and waiting, just
*knowing* that CBS would rerun the series again, in order to build up
more interest. But they didn't. I guess they were too busy selling it
to SciFi. I don't get that strategy. ABC did the same thing with
Lost, which is maddening.
 
 Too bad. Maybe my fantasy billionaire will pick up the show! :)
 
 -- Original message -- 
 From: Justin Mohareb [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Nuts.
 
 JJ Mohareb
 
 On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 7:13 PM, Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey
 L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Sources: 'Jericho' To Wrap It Up
 
 
  By MICHAEL HINMAN
  Source: SyFy Portal
  Feb-21-2008
 
  It looks like the Jericho experiment is about to come to an end.
 
  Sources have told SyFy Portal that CBS is gearing up to air the series
  finale version of the post-apocalyptic series on March 25, one of two
  endings shot that would either allow a cliffhanger going into a third
  season, or a proper amount of closure for Jericho fans who
fought hard
  to force CBS to reconsider its previous decision to cancel the show.
 
  There are a lot of people here who really care about what happens to
  'Jericho,' and I think we all wanted to see it succeed, the
source, who
  asked not to be identified, said. Numbers are numbers, and [CBS]
had to
  do what [CBS] had to do.
 
  Ratings for the first two episodes were well below even some of the
  worst numbers the show experienced at the end of the first season
which
  helped prompt network officials to move toward cancellation.
Although it
  is competing in a post-American Idol scheduling environment,
Jericho
  struggled to compete with shows that were either in reruns, or not
part
  of mainstream viewing habits.
 
  At the same time, audiences in key demographics of 18 to 49 -- a demo
  that isn't typically attracted to CBS for many of its other
programmings
  -- were noticeably absent from the first pair of viewings from the
show,
  and there is little chance they'll suddenly return in the coming
weeks.
 
  But the decision isn't quite final yet ... network executives
still have
  room to change their mind.
 
  If the audience can come back to the show in the next two
episodes, and
  I mean a lot, [CBS] may reconsider, the source said. Fans definitely
  have a say, and they had a say last summer [with the 'Nuts to Jericho'
  campaign], but I think the final decision this time is going to come
  down to hard numbers, and they're just not there for 'Jericho.'
 
  Please note that none of this has been confirmed by CBS, and should be
  treated as any rumor would.
 
  Jericho airs Tuesdays at 10 p.m. ET on CBS.
 
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Re: [scifinoir2] The Two Faces of Barak

2008-02-23 Thread Astromancer
It looks more like a cross between the Terminator and Frankenstein...

ravenadal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  Striking picture of Barak as Borg.

http://current.com/items/88850541_the_two_faces_of_barak



 


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Re: [scifinoir2] [Fwd: RE: Surprising nature flick ~ amazing and unexpected finish]

2008-02-23 Thread Astromancer
I've seen this about three times...Bull: Must not know who he's messin' with!

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You got to see this!
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Subject: RE: Surprising nature flick ~ amazing and unexpected finish
Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 23:26:41 -0800
From: Chris de Morsella 
To: Tracey de Morsella , 'paul
demorsella' 
, 'julia demorsella' ,
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Re: [scifinoir2] Star Trek/Brokeback Mountain Mashup

2008-02-23 Thread Astromancer
LMBAO...You guys are sick! LOL

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Re: [scifinoir2] News For Martha Jones Fans - Dr. Who/torchwoord

2008-02-23 Thread Astromancer
Um...what is torchwood about?

Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  Tracey, Keith, that ep was Bad 
Wolf.

Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I do 
not remember which episode he died in, but I think it was one of 
the Bad Wolf episodes with the reality tv theme

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 what ep or eps do I need to see to get the scoop?
 -- Original message -- 
 From: Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] 

 
 Something happened when Jack died and at the end of the episode you saw, 
 he was still alive. Now he can't die. In fact, he and Rose have met 
 him when they travel to the future. They just do not know it is him. I 
 can not tell you more because it is a spoiler 

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
 
 What's the premise of Torchwood? I only just now caught up on the eps of 
 Dr. 
 
 Who were Rose was trapped on the alternate Earth with her mom, sometimes 
 boyfriend, and alternate reality father. I saw the first four or five eps of 
 the season with Martha, but that's it. I remember some references to 
 Torchwood 
 in the show. But didn't Captain Jack die in Dr. Who? How is he alive, what 
 is 
 Torchwood, and how did it come to exist in our time? 
 
 -- Original message -- 
 From: Martin 
 Gymfig, the BBC is capitalizing on her unexpected popularity by 
 split-tining 
 
 her between Torchwood and DW. She'll be in those eps on Torchwood, 
 then 
 return to be the Doctor's co-companion with Catherine Tate for the rest of 
 S4. 
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
 In a message dated 2/22/2008 7:12:33 PM Eastern Standard Time, 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: 

 season of Doctor Who, she will have an additional three-episode run on 
 the adult-themed spinoff for BBC Two and BBC America, Torchwood. 

 I love Torchwood. I heard about this on the sci fi channel. I am glad that 
 she is back but I am sad that she is only back for three episodes. 


 I still don't understand what is the big deal with Capt. Jack. He does not 
 seem to be that cold leader his character is supposed to be. It is quite 
 laughable to see him be threatening. 

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Re: [scifinoir2] Re: It's Over for Jericho

2008-02-23 Thread GWashin891
While I'm a big Jericho fan my experiance any show that lasts when the 
networks wish otherwise doesn't turn out to be good.   And their are many 
examples 
out their to prove this.So To be honest I would rather have the creators 
end the show on their terms instead of the networks.An it's looks like they 
are using their chance to do just that.


-GTW

In a message dated 2/23/08 10:48:10 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


 I was still watching. I think the network's scheduling decisions
 doomed the show. Killing off one of the main characters in the season
 finale seems to have hurt the show as well.
 
 --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  I posted an e-mail the day the show was returning, then posted a
 follow up asking if anyone here was watching. Only one reply, and that
 was from Gymfig, who doesn't watch the show at all. Is anyone here
 watching it?
 
  I also have to repeat my complaint at CBS' not showing the entire
 series again in the weeks leading up to the return. That irritates me.
 I watched the whole series, but missed the last three eps and didn't
 want to watch them on my laptop. I was waiting and waiting, just
 *knowing* that CBS would rerun the series again, in order to build up
 more interest. But they didn't. I guess they were too busy selling it
 to SciFi. I don't get that strategy. ABC did the same thing with
 Lost, which is maddening.
 
  Too bad. Maybe my fantasy billionaire will pick up the show! :)
 




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Re: [scifinoir2] Re: It's Over for Jericho

2008-02-23 Thread KeithBJohnson
agreed. 

-- Original message -- 
From: B. Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
I was still watching. I think the network's scheduling decisions
doomed the show. Killing off one of the main characters in the season
finale seems to have hurt the show as well.

--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I posted an e-mail the day the show was returning, then posted a
follow up asking if anyone here was watching. Only one reply, and that
was from Gymfig, who doesn't watch the show at all. Is anyone here
watching it?
 
 I also have to repeat my complaint at CBS' not showing the entire
series again in the weeks leading up to the return. That irritates me.
I watched the whole series, but missed the last three eps and didn't
want to watch them on my laptop. I was waiting and waiting, just
*knowing* that CBS would rerun the series again, in order to build up
more interest. But they didn't. I guess they were too busy selling it
to SciFi. I don't get that strategy. ABC did the same thing with
Lost, which is maddening.
 
 Too bad. Maybe my fantasy billionaire will pick up the show! :)
 
 -- Original message -- 
 From: Justin Mohareb [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Nuts.
 
 JJ Mohareb
 
 On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 7:13 PM, Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey
 L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Sources: 'Jericho' To Wrap It Up
 
 
  By MICHAEL HINMAN
  Source: SyFy Portal
  Feb-21-2008
 
  It looks like the Jericho experiment is about to come to an end.
 
  Sources have told SyFy Portal that CBS is gearing up to air the series
  finale version of the post-apocalyptic series on March 25, one of two
  endings shot that would either allow a cliffhanger going into a third
  season, or a proper amount of closure for Jericho fans who
fought hard
  to force CBS to reconsider its previous decision to cancel the show.
 
  There are a lot of people here who really care about what happens to
  'Jericho,' and I think we all wanted to see it succeed, the
source, who
  asked not to be identified, said. Numbers are numbers, and [CBS]
had to
  do what [CBS] had to do.
 
  Ratings for the first two episodes were well below even some of the
  worst numbers the show experienced at the end of the first season
which
  helped prompt network officials to move toward cancellation.
Although it
  is competing in a post-American Idol scheduling environment,
Jericho
  struggled to compete with shows that were either in reruns, or not
part
  of mainstream viewing habits.
 
  At the same time, audiences in key demographics of 18 to 49 -- a demo
  that isn't typically attracted to CBS for many of its other
programmings
  -- were noticeably absent from the first pair of viewings from the
show,
  and there is little chance they'll suddenly return in the coming
weeks.
 
  But the decision isn't quite final yet ... network executives
still have
  room to change their mind.
 
  If the audience can come back to the show in the next two
episodes, and
  I mean a lot, [CBS] may reconsider, the source said. Fans definitely
  have a say, and they had a say last summer [with the 'Nuts to Jericho'
  campaign], but I think the final decision this time is going to come
  down to hard numbers, and they're just not there for 'Jericho.'
 
  Please note that none of this has been confirmed by CBS, and should be
  treated as any rumor would.
 
  Jericho airs Tuesdays at 10 p.m. ET on CBS.
 
  http://www.syfyportal.com/news424744.html
 
 
 
 
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Re: [scifinoir2] Bionic Woman Laid to Rest

2008-02-23 Thread Astromancer
Definitely the literal definition of Theatre of the Mind... for that is the 
only place it exists...

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  i often have this silly fantasy that a really rich 
billionaire could create a cable channel and fund shows that draw 
small-but-dedicated audiences for their quality. In this fantasy world, the 
billionaire would underwrite shows like Threshold, John Doe, Odyssey 5, 
Space: Above and Beyond, The Dresden Files, Karen Sisco. We'd get another 
season of Exo-Squad and Samurai Jack. The like of Coto would get a chance 
to really see their projects to fruition. 

Frank's Place would return.

Yeah, yeah, a fantasy indeed. No one would do that, and even if they did, the 
backer would likely not have the same taste as mine, and still cancel good 
shows. But in a world where billionaires buy boats big as apartment complexes 
and fund science fiction halls of fame, i can dream, can't i???

-- Original message -- 
From: Lockhart, Daryle 

Jason Cahill and Manny Coto should do a show together. They are both great 
at saving failed projects.

On Fri, 22 Feb 2008 11:26:42 -0500, Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. 
Minor) wrote:

 It's now official: The Commander in Chief award for the most spectacular
 freshman flame-out of the 07-08 TV season goes to... Bionic Woman!

 Although NBC isn't talking, I'm told by multiple sources that Bionic
 staffers were informed late last week that the troubled reboot has
 indeed been canceled. That means no spring relaunch under new
 show-runner Jason Cahill — which is too bad. Cahill's a talented guy
 (see: The Sopranos), and I was anxious to see what he would do with the
 show. But I guess it wasn't meant to be.

 At least now the first stage of grief can get under way. No, not shock —
 the snarky postmortem! What do you think felled Bionic Woman in the end?
 Was it the lackluster pilot? The absence of a clear, creative vision?
 Not enough Starbuck? Too much Isaiah Washington? All of the above? Sound
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Re: [scifinoir2] Bionic Woman Laid to Rest

2008-02-23 Thread KeithBJohnson
alas, 'tis true!

-- Original message -- 
From: Astromancer [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Definitely the literal definition of Theatre of the Mind... for that is the 
only place it exists...

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i often have this silly fantasy that a really rich 
billionaire could create a cable channel and fund shows that draw 
small-but-dedicated audiences for their quality. In this fantasy world, the 
billionaire would underwrite shows like Threshold, John Doe, Odyssey 5, 
Space: Above and Beyond, The Dresden Files, Karen Sisco. We'd get another 
season of Exo-Squad and Samurai Jack. The like of Coto would get a chance 
to really see their projects to fruition. 

Frank's Place would return.

Yeah, yeah, a fantasy indeed. No one would do that, and even if they did, the 
backer would likely not have the same taste as mine, and still cancel good 
shows. But in a world where billionaires buy boats big as apartment complexes 
and fund science fiction halls of fame, i can dream, can't i???

-- Original message -- 
From: Lockhart, Daryle 

Jason Cahill and Manny Coto should do a show together. They are both great 
at saving failed projects.

On Fri, 22 Feb 2008 11:26:42 -0500, Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. 
Minor) wrote:

 It's now official: The Commander in Chief award for the most spectacular
 freshman flame-out of the 07-08 TV season goes to... Bionic Woman!

 Although NBC isn't talking, I'm told by multiple sources that Bionic
 staffers were informed late last week that the troubled reboot has
 indeed been canceled. That means no spring relaunch under new
 show-runner Jason Cahill — which is too bad. Cahill's a talented guy
 (see: The Sopranos), and I was anxious to see what he would do with the
 show. But I guess it wasn't meant to be.

 At least now the first stage of grief can get under way. No, not shock —
 the snarky postmortem! What do you think felled Bionic Woman in the end?
 Was it the lackluster pilot? The absence of a clear, creative vision?
 Not enough Starbuck? Too much Isaiah Washington? All of the above? Sound
 off in the comments section below!
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Re: [scifinoir2] It's Over for Jericho

2008-02-23 Thread Astromancer
Stupid numbers...probably not figuring out who the target audience is and, 
therefore, they take it out on the fans...

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  I posted an e-mail the day the show was 
returning, then posted a follow up asking if anyone here was watching. Only one 
reply, and that was from Gymfig, who doesn't watch the show at all. Is anyone 
here watching it?

I also have to repeat my complaint at CBS' not showing the entire series again 
in the weeks leading up to the return. That irritates me. I watched the whole 
series, but missed the last three eps and didn't want to watch them on my 
laptop. I was waiting and waiting, just *knowing* that CBS would rerun the 
series again, in order to build up more interest. But they didn't. I guess they 
were too busy selling it to SciFi. I don't get that strategy. ABC did the same 
thing with Lost, which is maddening.

Too bad. Maybe my fantasy billionaire will pick up the show! :)

-- Original message -- 
From: Justin Mohareb [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Nuts.

JJ Mohareb

On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 7:13 PM, Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey
L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Sources: 'Jericho' To Wrap It Up


 By MICHAEL HINMAN
 Source: SyFy Portal
 Feb-21-2008

 It looks like the Jericho experiment is about to come to an end.

 Sources have told SyFy Portal that CBS is gearing up to air the series
 finale version of the post-apocalyptic series on March 25, one of two
 endings shot that would either allow a cliffhanger going into a third
 season, or a proper amount of closure for Jericho fans who fought hard
 to force CBS to reconsider its previous decision to cancel the show.

 There are a lot of people here who really care about what happens to
 'Jericho,' and I think we all wanted to see it succeed, the source, who
 asked not to be identified, said. Numbers are numbers, and [CBS] had to
 do what [CBS] had to do.

 Ratings for the first two episodes were well below even some of the
 worst numbers the show experienced at the end of the first season which
 helped prompt network officials to move toward cancellation. Although it
 is competing in a post-American Idol scheduling environment, Jericho
 struggled to compete with shows that were either in reruns, or not part
 of mainstream viewing habits.

 At the same time, audiences in key demographics of 18 to 49 -- a demo
 that isn't typically attracted to CBS for many of its other programmings
 -- were noticeably absent from the first pair of viewings from the show,
 and there is little chance they'll suddenly return in the coming weeks.

 But the decision isn't quite final yet ... network executives still have
 room to change their mind.

 If the audience can come back to the show in the next two episodes, and
 I mean a lot, [CBS] may reconsider, the source said. Fans definitely
 have a say, and they had a say last summer [with the 'Nuts to Jericho'
 campaign], but I think the final decision this time is going to come
 down to hard numbers, and they're just not there for 'Jericho.'

 Please note that none of this has been confirmed by CBS, and should be
 treated as any rumor would.

 Jericho airs Tuesdays at 10 p.m. ET on CBS.

 http://www.syfyportal.com/news424744.html




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[scifinoir2] Let's all become friends on Netflix

2008-02-23 Thread tdemorsella
Earlier today, Bosco put us onto Netflix friends.  

You can be come my Netflix friend by clicking on the following link:
http://www.netflix.com/BeMyFriend/PBZceQv3iPVDEm3v4oWm 

Netflix Friends allows you to share movie ideas and notes with your
friends. First you invite friends to connect with you and when they
accept, they are part of your Friends list. With Netflix friends, you
can see what each of your friends think about specific movies, suggest
movies them and add comments next to films that will help your friends
choose movies or avoid those you didn't enjoy.

So lets see if those of us who get films from Netflix, can all come
together via Netflix to make recommendations to eachother, share
reviews, and who knows what.

You can be come my Netflix friend by clicking on the following link:
http://www.netflix.com/BeMyFriend/PBZceQv3iPVDEm3v4oWm 







Re: [scifinoir2] It's Over for Jericho

2008-02-23 Thread Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)
I've have started watching on Comcast on Demand

Astromancer wrote:
 Stupid numbers...probably not figuring out who the target audience is and, 
 therefore, they take it out on the fans...

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  I posted an e-mail the day the show was 
 returning, then posted a follow up asking if anyone here was watching. Only 
 one reply, and that was from Gymfig, who doesn't watch the show at all. Is 
 anyone here watching it?

 I also have to repeat my complaint at CBS' not showing the entire series 
 again in the weeks leading up to the return. That irritates me. I watched the 
 whole series, but missed the last three eps and didn't want to watch them on 
 my laptop. I was waiting and waiting, just *knowing* that CBS would rerun the 
 series again, in order to build up more interest. But they didn't. I guess 
 they were too busy selling it to SciFi. I don't get that strategy. ABC did 
 the same thing with Lost, which is maddening.

 Too bad. Maybe my fantasy billionaire will pick up the show! :)

 -- Original message -- 
 From: Justin Mohareb [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Nuts.

 JJ Mohareb

 On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 7:13 PM, Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey
 L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
 Sources: 'Jericho' To Wrap It Up


 By MICHAEL HINMAN
 Source: SyFy Portal
 Feb-21-2008

 It looks like the Jericho experiment is about to come to an end.

 Sources have told SyFy Portal that CBS is gearing up to air the series
 finale version of the post-apocalyptic series on March 25, one of two
 endings shot that would either allow a cliffhanger going into a third
 season, or a proper amount of closure for Jericho fans who fought hard
 to force CBS to reconsider its previous decision to cancel the show.

 There are a lot of people here who really care about what happens to
 'Jericho,' and I think we all wanted to see it succeed, the source, who
 asked not to be identified, said. Numbers are numbers, and [CBS] had to
 do what [CBS] had to do.

 Ratings for the first two episodes were well below even some of the
 worst numbers the show experienced at the end of the first season which
 helped prompt network officials to move toward cancellation. Although it
 is competing in a post-American Idol scheduling environment, Jericho
 struggled to compete with shows that were either in reruns, or not part
 of mainstream viewing habits.

 At the same time, audiences in key demographics of 18 to 49 -- a demo
 that isn't typically attracted to CBS for many of its other programmings
 -- were noticeably absent from the first pair of viewings from the show,
 and there is little chance they'll suddenly return in the coming weeks.

 But the decision isn't quite final yet ... network executives still have
 room to change their mind.

 If the audience can come back to the show in the next two episodes, and
 I mean a lot, [CBS] may reconsider, the source said. Fans definitely
 have a say, and they had a say last summer [with the 'Nuts to Jericho'
 campaign], but I think the final decision this time is going to come
 down to hard numbers, and they're just not there for 'Jericho.'

 Please note that none of this has been confirmed by CBS, and should be
 treated as any rumor would.

 Jericho airs Tuesdays at 10 p.m. ET on CBS.

 http://www.syfyportal.com/news424744.html



 

   


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[scifinoir2] Star Trek/Brokeback Mountain Mashup

2008-02-23 Thread KeithBJohnson
That was hilarious! 

My gosh that was funny! I 'bout busted a gut when Shatner said I don't want to 
take him back. He's like an animal (speaking of his evil half in The Enemy 
Within), or when Spock is lying on the sickbay bed screaming harder! (from 
A Private Little War) 

Great stuff! Didja catch what eps they lifted the scenes from? It was 
relatively easy for me to tell: they mostly pulled from Where No Man has Gone 
Before, The Enemy Within, Amok Time (they replaced the knife Spock was 
holding behind his back with some CGI roses), This Side of Paradise, The 
Naked Time, Journey to Babel,  Bread and Circuses, The Alternative 
Factor, Elaan of Troyus, City on the Edge of Forever (voice of Shatner 
saying I'm beginning to think I'm in love with... and they replaced Edith 
with Spock), Miri, A Private Little War, and Operation: Annhilate

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Re: [scifinoir2] It's Over for Jericho

2008-02-23 Thread KeithBJohnson
i don't get why your Comcast On Demand is so much more robust than mine here in 
Atlanta. I can't get anything meaningful from Boomerang (Justice League, for 
example), Nick (Avatar) or any of the other channels. The things you can get 
On Demand, i've had to get by paying for a more expensive package

-- Original message -- 
From: Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
I've have started watching on Comcast on Demand

Astromancer wrote:
 Stupid numbers...probably not figuring out who the target audience is and, 
 therefore, they take it out on the fans...

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I posted an e-mail the day the show was returning, 
 then posted a follow up asking if anyone here was watching. Only one reply, 
 and that was from Gymfig, who doesn't watch the show at all. Is anyone here 
 watching it?

 I also have to repeat my complaint at CBS' not showing the entire series 
 again in the weeks leading up to the return. That irritates me. I watched the 
 whole series, but missed the last three eps and didn't want to watch them on 
 my laptop. I was waiting and waiting, just *knowing* that CBS would rerun the 
 series again, in order to build up more interest. But they didn't. I guess 
 they were too busy selling it to SciFi. I don't get that strategy. ABC did 
 the same thing with Lost, which is maddening.

 Too bad. Maybe my fantasy billionaire will pick up the show! :)

 -- Original message -- 
 From: Justin Mohareb [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Nuts.

 JJ Mohareb

 On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 7:13 PM, Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey
 L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Sources: 'Jericho' To Wrap It Up


 By MICHAEL HINMAN
 Source: SyFy Portal
 Feb-21-2008

 It looks like the Jericho experiment is about to come to an end.

 Sources have told SyFy Portal that CBS is gearing up to air the series
 finale version of the post-apocalyptic series on March 25, one of two
 endings shot that would either allow a cliffhanger going into a third
 season, or a proper amount of closure for Jericho fans who fought hard
 to force CBS to reconsider its previous decision to cancel the show.

 There are a lot of people here who really care about what happens to
 'Jericho,' and I think we all wanted to see it succeed, the source, who
 asked not to be identified, said. Numbers are numbers, and [CBS] had to
 do what [CBS] had to do.

 Ratings for the first two episodes were well below even some of the
 worst numbers the show experienced at the end of the first season which
 helped prompt network officials to move toward cancellation. Although it
 is competing in a post-American Idol scheduling environment, Jericho
 struggled to compete with shows that were either in reruns, or not part
 of mainstream viewing habits.

 At the same time, audiences in key demographics of 18 to 49 -- a demo
 that isn't typically attracted to CBS for many of its other programmings
 -- were noticeably absent from the first pair of viewings from the show,
 and there is little chance they'll suddenly return in the coming weeks.

 But the decision isn't quite final yet ... network executives still have
 room to change their mind.

 If the audience can come back to the show in the next two episodes, and
 I mean a lot, [CBS] may reconsider, the source said. Fans definitely
 have a say, and they had a say last summer [with the 'Nuts to Jericho'
 campaign], but I think the final decision this time is going to come
 down to hard numbers, and they're just not there for 'Jericho.'

 Please note that none of this has been confirmed by CBS, and should be
 treated as any rumor would.

 Jericho airs Tuesdays at 10 p.m. ET on CBS.

 http://www.syfyportal.com/news424744.html



 

 

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Re: [scifinoir2] It's Over for Jericho

2008-02-23 Thread Astromancer
Pleasedon't mention the 'C' word...(spit! spit! spit!)

Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  
I've have started watching on Comcast on Demand

Astromancer wrote:
 Stupid numbers...probably not figuring out who the target audience is and, 
 therefore, they take it out on the fans...

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I posted an e-mail the day the show was returning, 
 then posted a follow up asking if anyone here was watching. Only one reply, 
 and that was from Gymfig, who doesn't watch the show at all. Is anyone here 
 watching it?

 I also have to repeat my complaint at CBS' not showing the entire series 
 again in the weeks leading up to the return. That irritates me. I watched the 
 whole series, but missed the last three eps and didn't want to watch them on 
 my laptop. I was waiting and waiting, just *knowing* that CBS would rerun the 
 series again, in order to build up more interest. But they didn't. I guess 
 they were too busy selling it to SciFi. I don't get that strategy. ABC did 
 the same thing with Lost, which is maddening.

 Too bad. Maybe my fantasy billionaire will pick up the show! :)

 -- Original message -- 
 From: Justin Mohareb [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Nuts.

 JJ Mohareb

 On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 7:13 PM, Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey
 L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Sources: 'Jericho' To Wrap It Up


 By MICHAEL HINMAN
 Source: SyFy Portal
 Feb-21-2008

 It looks like the Jericho experiment is about to come to an end.

 Sources have told SyFy Portal that CBS is gearing up to air the series
 finale version of the post-apocalyptic series on March 25, one of two
 endings shot that would either allow a cliffhanger going into a third
 season, or a proper amount of closure for Jericho fans who fought hard
 to force CBS to reconsider its previous decision to cancel the show.

 There are a lot of people here who really care about what happens to
 'Jericho,' and I think we all wanted to see it succeed, the source, who
 asked not to be identified, said. Numbers are numbers, and [CBS] had to
 do what [CBS] had to do.

 Ratings for the first two episodes were well below even some of the
 worst numbers the show experienced at the end of the first season which
 helped prompt network officials to move toward cancellation. Although it
 is competing in a post-American Idol scheduling environment, Jericho
 struggled to compete with shows that were either in reruns, or not part
 of mainstream viewing habits.

 At the same time, audiences in key demographics of 18 to 49 -- a demo
 that isn't typically attracted to CBS for many of its other programmings
 -- were noticeably absent from the first pair of viewings from the show,
 and there is little chance they'll suddenly return in the coming weeks.

 But the decision isn't quite final yet ... network executives still have
 room to change their mind.

 If the audience can come back to the show in the next two episodes, and
 I mean a lot, [CBS] may reconsider, the source said. Fans definitely
 have a say, and they had a say last summer [with the 'Nuts to Jericho'
 campaign], but I think the final decision this time is going to come
 down to hard numbers, and they're just not there for 'Jericho.'

 Please note that none of this has been confirmed by CBS, and should be
 treated as any rumor would.

 Jericho airs Tuesdays at 10 p.m. ET on CBS.

 http://www.syfyportal.com/news424744.html



 

 

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Re: [scifinoir2] It's Over for Jericho

2008-02-23 Thread Astromancer
(Spit! spit!spit!)

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  i don't get why your Comcast On Demand is so 
much more robust than mine here in Atlanta. I can't get anything meaningful 
from Boomerang (Justice League, for example), Nick (Avatar) or any of the 
other channels. The things you can get On Demand, i've had to get by paying for 
a more expensive package

-- Original message -- 
From: Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
I've have started watching on Comcast on Demand

Astromancer wrote:
 Stupid numbers...probably not figuring out who the target audience is and, 
 therefore, they take it out on the fans...

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I posted an e-mail the day the show was returning, 
 then posted a follow up asking if anyone here was watching. Only one reply, 
 and that was from Gymfig, who doesn't watch the show at all. Is anyone here 
 watching it?

 I also have to repeat my complaint at CBS' not showing the entire series 
 again in the weeks leading up to the return. That irritates me. I watched the 
 whole series, but missed the last three eps and didn't want to watch them on 
 my laptop. I was waiting and waiting, just *knowing* that CBS would rerun the 
 series again, in order to build up more interest. But they didn't. I guess 
 they were too busy selling it to SciFi. I don't get that strategy. ABC did 
 the same thing with Lost, which is maddening.

 Too bad. Maybe my fantasy billionaire will pick up the show! :)

 -- Original message -- 
 From: Justin Mohareb [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Nuts.

 JJ Mohareb

 On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 7:13 PM, Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey
 L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Sources: 'Jericho' To Wrap It Up


 By MICHAEL HINMAN
 Source: SyFy Portal
 Feb-21-2008

 It looks like the Jericho experiment is about to come to an end.

 Sources have told SyFy Portal that CBS is gearing up to air the series
 finale version of the post-apocalyptic series on March 25, one of two
 endings shot that would either allow a cliffhanger going into a third
 season, or a proper amount of closure for Jericho fans who fought hard
 to force CBS to reconsider its previous decision to cancel the show.

 There are a lot of people here who really care about what happens to
 'Jericho,' and I think we all wanted to see it succeed, the source, who
 asked not to be identified, said. Numbers are numbers, and [CBS] had to
 do what [CBS] had to do.

 Ratings for the first two episodes were well below even some of the
 worst numbers the show experienced at the end of the first season which
 helped prompt network officials to move toward cancellation. Although it
 is competing in a post-American Idol scheduling environment, Jericho
 struggled to compete with shows that were either in reruns, or not part
 of mainstream viewing habits.

 At the same time, audiences in key demographics of 18 to 49 -- a demo
 that isn't typically attracted to CBS for many of its other programmings
 -- were noticeably absent from the first pair of viewings from the show,
 and there is little chance they'll suddenly return in the coming weeks.

 But the decision isn't quite final yet ... network executives still have
 room to change their mind.

 If the audience can come back to the show in the next two episodes, and
 I mean a lot, [CBS] may reconsider, the source said. Fans definitely
 have a say, and they had a say last summer [with the 'Nuts to Jericho'
 campaign], but I think the final decision this time is going to come
 down to hard numbers, and they're just not there for 'Jericho.'

 Please note that none of this has been confirmed by CBS, and should be
 treated as any rumor would.

 Jericho airs Tuesdays at 10 p.m. ET on CBS.

 http://www.syfyportal.com/news424744.html



 

 

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Re: [scifinoir2] Let's all become friends on Netflix

2008-02-23 Thread Gerald Haynes
You can be come my Netflix friend by clicking on the following link:
http://www.netflix.com/BeMyFriend/P6c8WDP88EkYDVUMgGLW
 
Gerald Haynes

Quotes to live by:
Time, Money, and Quality, you may have only two.
Never enough time to do it right. Always enough time to do it over.
Continual improvement is always better than delayed perfection.


My comics, music  thoughts:
http://www.undergroundartistry.com

- Original Message 
From: tdemorsella [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2008 12:46:37 AM
Subject: [scifinoir2] Let's all become friends on Netflix

  Earlier today, Bosco put us onto Netflix friends.  

You can be come my Netflix friend by clicking on the following link:
http://www.netflix. com/BeMyFriend/ PBZceQv3iPVDEm3v 4oWm 

Netflix Friends allows you to share movie ideas and notes with your
friends. First you invite friends to connect with you and when they
accept, they are part of your Friends list. With Netflix friends, you
can see what each of your friends think about specific movies, suggest
movies them and add comments next to films that will help your friends
choose movies or avoid those you didn't enjoy.

So lets see if those of us who get films from Netflix, can all come
together via Netflix to make recommendations to eachother, share
reviews, and who knows what.

You can be come my Netflix friend by clicking on the following link:
http://www.netflix. com/BeMyFriend/ PBZceQv3iPVDEm3v 4oWm 



  
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Re: [scifinoir2] It's Over for Jericho

2008-02-23 Thread Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)
You have to remember that I could barely walk or work for the longest 
time, and we just moved to the Seattle area, so I got a special rate on 
an expensive package because I could not do anything for so long.  That 
included phone, Internet and two premium channels set with movie 
channels.  Either that or the Seattle line up is more robust.   I 
definitely get more here than I got when we were in Philly.  I have to 
see if we get boomerang.  I do not even know where that is. 

The only network channel we get is CBS.  I wish we got others.  What do 
they provide with your on  your on demand line up?

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 i don't get why your Comcast On Demand is so much more robust than mine here 
 in Atlanta. I can't get anything meaningful from Boomerang (Justice League, 
 for example), Nick (Avatar) or any of the other channels. The things you 
 can get On Demand, i've had to get by paying for a more expensive package

 -- Original message -- 
 From: Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 I've have started watching on Comcast on Demand

 Astromancer wrote:
   
 Stupid numbers...probably not figuring out who the target audience is and, 
 therefore, they take it out on the fans...

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I posted an e-mail the day the show was returning, 
 then posted a follow up asking if anyone here was watching. Only one reply, 
 and that was from Gymfig, who doesn't watch the show at all. Is anyone here 
 watching it?

 I also have to repeat my complaint at CBS' not showing the entire series 
 again in the weeks leading up to the return. That irritates me. I watched 
 the whole series, but missed the last three eps and didn't want to watch 
 them on my laptop. I was waiting and waiting, just *knowing* that CBS would 
 rerun the series again, in order to build up more interest. But they didn't. 
 I guess they were too busy selling it to SciFi. I don't get that strategy. 
 ABC did the same thing with Lost, which is maddening.

 Too bad. Maybe my fantasy billionaire will pick up the show! :)

 -- Original message -- 
 From: Justin Mohareb [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Nuts.

 JJ Mohareb

 On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 7:13 PM, Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey
 L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 Sources: 'Jericho' To Wrap It Up


 By MICHAEL HINMAN
 Source: SyFy Portal
 Feb-21-2008

 It looks like the Jericho experiment is about to come to an end.

 Sources have told SyFy Portal that CBS is gearing up to air the series
 finale version of the post-apocalyptic series on March 25, one of two
 endings shot that would either allow a cliffhanger going into a third
 season, or a proper amount of closure for Jericho fans who fought hard
 to force CBS to reconsider its previous decision to cancel the show.

 There are a lot of people here who really care about what happens to
 'Jericho,' and I think we all wanted to see it succeed, the source, who
 asked not to be identified, said. Numbers are numbers, and [CBS] had to
 do what [CBS] had to do.

 Ratings for the first two episodes were well below even some of the
 worst numbers the show experienced at the end of the first season which
 helped prompt network officials to move toward cancellation. Although it
 is competing in a post-American Idol scheduling environment, Jericho
 struggled to compete with shows that were either in reruns, or not part
 of mainstream viewing habits.

 At the same time, audiences in key demographics of 18 to 49 -- a demo
 that isn't typically attracted to CBS for many of its other programmings
 -- were noticeably absent from the first pair of viewings from the show,
 and there is little chance they'll suddenly return in the coming weeks.

 But the decision isn't quite final yet ... network executives still have
 room to change their mind.

 If the audience can come back to the show in the next two episodes, and
 I mean a lot, [CBS] may reconsider, the source said. Fans definitely
 have a say, and they had a say last summer [with the 'Nuts to Jericho'
 campaign], but I think the final decision this time is going to come
 down to hard numbers, and they're just not there for 'Jericho.'

 Please note that none of this has been confirmed by CBS, and should be
 treated as any rumor would.

 Jericho airs Tuesdays at 10 p.m. ET on CBS.

 http://www.syfyportal.com/news424744.html




   
 

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Re: [scifinoir2] It's Over for Jericho

2008-02-23 Thread Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)
I forgot.  I'm sorry

Astromancer wrote:
 Pleasedon't mention the 'C' word...(spit! spit! spit!)

 Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   I've have started watching on Comcast on Demand

 Astromancer wrote:
   
 Stupid numbers...probably not figuring out who the target audience is and, 
 therefore, they take it out on the fans...

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I posted an e-mail the day the show was returning, 
 then posted a follow up asking if anyone here was watching. Only one reply, 
 and that was from Gymfig, who doesn't watch the show at all. Is anyone here 
 watching it?

 I also have to repeat my complaint at CBS' not showing the entire series 
 again in the weeks leading up to the return. That irritates me. I watched 
 the whole series, but missed the last three eps and didn't want to watch 
 them on my laptop. I was waiting and waiting, just *knowing* that CBS would 
 rerun the series again, in order to build up more interest. But they didn't. 
 I guess they were too busy selling it to SciFi. I don't get that strategy. 
 ABC did the same thing with Lost, which is maddening.

 Too bad. Maybe my fantasy billionaire will pick up the show! :)

 -- Original message -- 
 From: Justin Mohareb [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Nuts.

 JJ Mohareb

 On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 7:13 PM, Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey
 L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 Sources: 'Jericho' To Wrap It Up


 By MICHAEL HINMAN
 Source: SyFy Portal
 Feb-21-2008

 It looks like the Jericho experiment is about to come to an end.

 Sources have told SyFy Portal that CBS is gearing up to air the series
 finale version of the post-apocalyptic series on March 25, one of two
 endings shot that would either allow a cliffhanger going into a third
 season, or a proper amount of closure for Jericho fans who fought hard
 to force CBS to reconsider its previous decision to cancel the show.

 There are a lot of people here who really care about what happens to
 'Jericho,' and I think we all wanted to see it succeed, the source, who
 asked not to be identified, said. Numbers are numbers, and [CBS] had to
 do what [CBS] had to do.

 Ratings for the first two episodes were well below even some of the
 worst numbers the show experienced at the end of the first season which
 helped prompt network officials to move toward cancellation. Although it
 is competing in a post-American Idol scheduling environment, Jericho
 struggled to compete with shows that were either in reruns, or not part
 of mainstream viewing habits.

 At the same time, audiences in key demographics of 18 to 49 -- a demo
 that isn't typically attracted to CBS for many of its other programmings
 -- were noticeably absent from the first pair of viewings from the show,
 and there is little chance they'll suddenly return in the coming weeks.

 But the decision isn't quite final yet ... network executives still have
 room to change their mind.

 If the audience can come back to the show in the next two episodes, and
 I mean a lot, [CBS] may reconsider, the source said. Fans definitely
 have a say, and they had a say last summer [with the 'Nuts to Jericho'
 campaign], but I think the final decision this time is going to come
 down to hard numbers, and they're just not there for 'Jericho.'

 Please note that none of this has been confirmed by CBS, and should be
 treated as any rumor would.

 Jericho airs Tuesdays at 10 p.m. ET on CBS.

 http://www.syfyportal.com/news424744.html




   
 

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Re: [scifinoir2] Let's all become friends on Netflix

2008-02-23 Thread Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)
Thanks!  I just accepted

Gerald Haynes wrote:
 You can be come my Netflix friend by clicking on the following link:
 http://www.netflix.com/BeMyFriend/P6c8WDP88EkYDVUMgGLW
  
 Gerald Haynes

 Quotes to live by:
 Time, Money, and Quality, you may have only two.
 Never enough time to do it right. Always enough time to do it over.
 Continual improvement is always better than delayed perfection.


 My comics, music  thoughts:
 http://www.undergroundartistry.com

 - Original Message 
 From: tdemorsella [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
 Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2008 12:46:37 AM
 Subject: [scifinoir2] Let's all become friends on Netflix

   Earlier today, Bosco put us onto Netflix friends.  

 You can be come my Netflix friend by clicking on the following link:
 http://www.netflix. com/BeMyFriend/ PBZceQv3iPVDEm3v 4oWm 

 Netflix Friends allows you to share movie ideas and notes with your
 friends. First you invite friends to connect with you and when they
 accept, they are part of your Friends list. With Netflix friends, you
 can see what each of your friends think about specific movies, suggest
 movies them and add comments next to films that will help your friends
 choose movies or avoid those you didn't enjoy.

 So lets see if those of us who get films from Netflix, can all come
 together via Netflix to make recommendations to eachother, share
 reviews, and who knows what.

 You can be come my Netflix friend by clicking on the following link:
 http://www.netflix. com/BeMyFriend/ PBZceQv3iPVDEm3v 4oWm 


 
   
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Re: [scifinoir2] It's Over for Jericho

2008-02-23 Thread Astromancer
(SPIT!!!)

Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  
You have to remember that I could barely walk or work for the longest 
time, and we just moved to the Seattle area, so I got a special rate on 
an expensive package because I could not do anything for so long. That 
included phone, Internet and two premium channels set with movie 
channels. Either that or the Seattle line up is more robust. I 
definitely get more here than I got when we were in Philly. I have to 
see if we get boomerang. I do not even know where that is. 

The only network channel we get is CBS. I wish we got others. What do 
they provide with your on your on demand line up?

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 i don't get why your Comcast On Demand is so much more robust than mine here 
 in Atlanta. I can't get anything meaningful from Boomerang (Justice League, 
 for example), Nick (Avatar) or any of the other channels. The things you 
 can get On Demand, i've had to get by paying for a more expensive package

 -- Original message -- 
 From: Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 I've have started watching on Comcast on Demand

 Astromancer wrote:
 
 Stupid numbers...probably not figuring out who the target audience is and, 
 therefore, they take it out on the fans...

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I posted an e-mail the day the show was returning, 
 then posted a follow up asking if anyone here was watching. Only one reply, 
 and that was from Gymfig, who doesn't watch the show at all. Is anyone here 
 watching it?

 I also have to repeat my complaint at CBS' not showing the entire series 
 again in the weeks leading up to the return. That irritates me. I watched 
 the whole series, but missed the last three eps and didn't want to watch 
 them on my laptop. I was waiting and waiting, just *knowing* that CBS would 
 rerun the series again, in order to build up more interest. But they didn't. 
 I guess they were too busy selling it to SciFi. I don't get that strategy. 
 ABC did the same thing with Lost, which is maddening.

 Too bad. Maybe my fantasy billionaire will pick up the show! :)

 -- Original message -- 
 From: Justin Mohareb [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Nuts.

 JJ Mohareb

 On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 7:13 PM, Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey
 L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 Sources: 'Jericho' To Wrap It Up


 By MICHAEL HINMAN
 Source: SyFy Portal
 Feb-21-2008

 It looks like the Jericho experiment is about to come to an end.

 Sources have told SyFy Portal that CBS is gearing up to air the series
 finale version of the post-apocalyptic series on March 25, one of two
 endings shot that would either allow a cliffhanger going into a third
 season, or a proper amount of closure for Jericho fans who fought hard
 to force CBS to reconsider its previous decision to cancel the show.

 There are a lot of people here who really care about what happens to
 'Jericho,' and I think we all wanted to see it succeed, the source, who
 asked not to be identified, said. Numbers are numbers, and [CBS] had to
 do what [CBS] had to do.

 Ratings for the first two episodes were well below even some of the
 worst numbers the show experienced at the end of the first season which
 helped prompt network officials to move toward cancellation. Although it
 is competing in a post-American Idol scheduling environment, Jericho
 struggled to compete with shows that were either in reruns, or not part
 of mainstream viewing habits.

 At the same time, audiences in key demographics of 18 to 49 -- a demo
 that isn't typically attracted to CBS for many of its other programmings
 -- were noticeably absent from the first pair of viewings from the show,
 and there is little chance they'll suddenly return in the coming weeks.

 But the decision isn't quite final yet ... network executives still have
 room to change their mind.

 If the audience can come back to the show in the next two episodes, and
 I mean a lot, [CBS] may reconsider, the source said. Fans definitely
 have a say, and they had a say last summer [with the 'Nuts to Jericho'
 campaign], but I think the final decision this time is going to come
 down to hard numbers, and they're just not there for 'Jericho.'

 Please note that none of this has been confirmed by CBS, and should be
 treated as any rumor would.

 Jericho airs Tuesdays at 10 p.m. ET on CBS.

 http://www.syfyportal.com/news424744.html




 
 

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