Re: [scifinoir2] Bionic Woman Laid to Rest

[Martin]

Keith, again we're on the same wavelength.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i often have this silly fantasy that a really rich 
billionaire could create a cable channel and fund shows that draw 
small-but-dedicated audiences for their quality. In this fantasy world, the 
billionaire would underwrite shows like "Threshold", "John Doe", "Odyssey 5", 
"Space: Above and Beyond", "The Dresden Files", "Karen Sisco".  We'd get 
another season of "Exo-Squad" and "Samurai Jack".  The like of Coto would get a 
chance to really see their projects to fruition. 

"Frank's Place" would return.

Yeah, yeah, a fantasy indeed. No one would do that, and even if they did, the 
backer would likely not have the same taste as mine, and still cancel good 
shows.  But in a world where billionaires buy boats big as apartment complexes 
and fund science fiction halls of fame, i can dream, can't i???

-- Original message -- 
From: "Lockhart, Daryle"  

Jason Cahill and Manny Coto should do a show together. They are both great 
at saving failed projects.

On Fri, 22 Feb 2008 11:26:42 -0500, Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. 
Minor)  wrote:

> It's now official: The Commander in Chief award for the most spectacular
> freshman flame-out of the 07-08 TV season goes to... Bionic Woman!
>
> Although NBC isn't talking, I'm told by multiple sources that Bionic
> staffers were informed late last week that the troubled reboot has
> indeed been canceled. That means no spring relaunch under new
> show-runner Jason Cahill — which is too bad. Cahill's a talented guy
> (see: The Sopranos), and I was anxious to see what he would do with the
> show. But I guess it wasn't meant to be.
>
> At least now the first stage of grief can get under way. No, not shock —
> the snarky postmortem! What do you think felled Bionic Woman in the end?
> Was it the lackluster pilot? The absence of a clear, creative vision?
> Not enough Starbuck? Too much Isaiah Washington? All of the above? Sound
> off in the comments section below!
> http://community.tvguide.com/blog/TVGuide-Editors-Blog/Ausiello-Report/70049
>


 

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Re: [scifinoir2] Bad Movies Confession Time Re: Jumper - SPOILER ALERT!!!!!!

[Martin]

Tracey, the only people on this planet who speak or write English, IMO, *are* 
the English.

tdemorsella <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:   guys 
sorry.  I'm not illiterate.  I just play one on the list.  I will
 try not to post so rushed in the future
 
 -- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, "tdemorsella" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
 >
 > So gang.  It seems like it is a given that some us go to or rent
 > movies we pretty much knoware going to be bad.  So lets make it a
 > confession time and open up about other bad flicks we saw knowing they
 > were going to to be bad.  
 > 
 > I have to think on it, but most recently, I saw Wild Hogs.  Don't kick
 > me off the list, but I thought the first half was hilarious.  I
 > watched a really bad one star movie, Cyber Wars also known as Avatar
 > or  Matrix Hunter.  It starred Joseph Lau, David Warner (Jack the
 > Ripper, Hog Father), and Joan Chen (twin Peaks) The Plot: In the near
 > future in the Asian city-state Sintawan, everyone's identity is
 > recorded in the vast CyberLink. The only way around this is using
 > illegal simulated identity implants (sims). A young bounty hunter who
 > makes her living tracking sims, finds herself the unlikely ally of a
 > police detective who suspects the CyberLink is being perverted for an
 > insidious and deadly purpose
 > 
 > Okay, your turn
 > 
 > tracey
 > 
 > --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Martin  wrote:
 > >
 > > Give 'em time, Tracey.
 > > 
 > > "Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)"  wrote:
 >   I saw it.  It definitely was not theater
 > worthy, but I think it would be 
 > >  a great TV show.  I love the teleportation concept and some of the 
 > >  mythology and laws were good too.  Unfortunately, it came across
 > like a 
 > >  pilot movie for a scifi tv show.   To mad it is not a tv series
 > >  
 > >  ravenadal wrote:
 > >  > To me, teleportation has always been the coolest of all
 > superpowers.  
 > >  > Couple it with a "proximity sense," keen hearing (so you can hear 
 > >  > when a shot is fired and teleport an instant before it gets
 there), 
 > >  > or just plain "common sense" and you have one heck of a skill set!
 > >  >
 > >  > ~rave!
 > >  >
 > >  > --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, "DJ VIBE"  wrote:
 > >  >   
 > >  >>  
 > >  >> 
 > >  >>>  On Feb 15, 2008 6:31 PM, ravenadal  wrote:
 > >  >>>  >
 > >  >>>  
 > >  >>>  > There is a scene in the new Jumper movie (no, I have not seen 
 > >  >>>   
 > >  >> it)
 > >  >> 
 > >  >>>  >
 > >  >>>  >  SPOILER
 > >  >>>  >  
 > >  >>>   
 > >  > ALERT!!
 > >  >   
 > >  >>>  >
 > >  >>>  >  where the hero is watching the aftermath of the Hurricane 
 > >  >>>   
 > >  >> Karina on
 > >  >> 
 > >  >>>  >  his television. He gets dressed and teleports...to London, 
 > >  >>>   
 > >  >> where he
 > >  >> 
 > >  >>>  >  has a date. So much for great responsibility coming with 
 > >  >>>   
 > >  > great 
 > >  >   
 > >  >> power!
 > >  >> 
 > >  >>>  >
 > >  >>>   
 > >  >> It was right in keeping with how his character was established in 
 > >  >> the movie, although for a moment there I thought he might
 think of 
 > >  >> using his abilities for good.  
 > >  >>
 > >  >> Overall, I found the movie pretty good, with one exception.  How 
 > >  >> 
 > >  > the 
 > >  >   
 > >  >> hell did the Paladins continually catch jumpers?  Its one
 thing if 
 > >  >> you get the drop on one, but if you're standing in FRONT of
 one who 
 > >  >> is fresh and the jumper sees you and you try to get him with your 
 > >  >> stun-wand, how are you gonna get him?  In less than three
 minutes, 
 > >  >> my wife and I came up with several ways to use a teleportation 
 > >  >> 
 > >  > power 
 > >  >   
 > >  >> offesinvely (i.e. teleport in a circle around your opponent a la 
 > >  >> Nightcrawer. et. al) and in all of those cases we came up
 with, no 
 > >  >> normal human would have a chance against a jumper.
 > >  >>
 > >  >> 
 > >  >
 > >  >
 > >  >
 > >  >
 > >  >  
 > >  > Yahoo! Groups Links
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 > >  >
 > >  >
 > >  >
 > >  >
 > >  >   
 > >  
 > >  [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
 > >  
 > >  
 > >  
 > >
 > > 
 > > 
 > > "There is no reason Good can't triumph over Evil, if only angels
 > will get organized along the lines of the Mafia." -Kurt Vonnegut, "A
 > Man Without A Country"
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Re: [scifinoir2] McCain hopes Castro to "meet Marx soon"

[Martin]

John McCain, USNA '58. We're so proud of him. :P

"Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: By 
Jason Szep Fri Feb 22, 11:34 AM ET
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080222/od_uk_nm/oukoe_uk_usa_politics_mccain_castro;_ylt=AmvlgDEPu9NzP1gcKIAEaHztiBIF
INDIANAPOLIS (Reuters) - Republican presidential front-runner John 
McCain suggested on Friday that he hoped retired Cuban leader Fidel 
Castro would die soon and said Castro's brother will be a worse leader.


"I hope he has the opportunity to meet Karl Marx very soon," McCain told 
a town-hall style meeting of about 150 people, referring to communist 
theoretician Marx who died on March 14, 1883.

Castro, 81, announced on Tuesday he was stepping down as president and 
commander-in-chief of Cuba's armed forces after 49 years in power. His 
brother Raul Castro is expected to be named Cuba's new head of state on 
Sunday.

"Apparently he is trying to groom his brother Raul," McCain said. "Raul 
is worse in many respects than Fidel was."

Castro has not appeared in public since undergoing stomach surgery and 
handing power temporarily to Raul in July 2006.

McCain, a four-term Arizona senator, has an almost insurmountable lead 
over his last major Republican rival, former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee.

McCain's approach to Cuba has generally echoed that of U.S. President 
George W. Bush, who has tightened a decades-long trade embargo and has 
rejected easing sanctions without a transition to democracy.

McCain, who is popular among conservative Cuban-Americans, also has said 
that if he wins the November 4 U.S. presidential election he would keep 
up pressure for political change in Cuba's one-party state.

That includes a travel ban and trade and financial sanctions enforced a 
few years after Castro's 1959 revolution on the Caribbean island.

McCain, 71, a former prisoner of war in Vietnam, has accused Cubans of 
participating in the torture of some of his fellow prisoners in Hanoi 
during the Vietnam War.

(To read more about the U.S. political campaign, visit Reuters "Tales 
from the Trail: 2008" online at http://blogs.reuters.com/trail08/)

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Re: [scifinoir2] News For Martha Jones Fans - Dr. Who/torchwoord

[Martin]

Gymfig, the BBC is capitalizing on her unexpected popularity by split-tining 
her between "Torchwood" and "DW". She'll be in those eps on "Torchwood", then 
return to be the Doctor's co-companion with Catherine Tate for the rest of S4.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 In a message dated 2/22/2008 7:12:33 PM Eastern Standard Time, 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
 season of "Doctor Who," she will have an additional three-episode run on 
 the adult-themed spinoff for BBC Two and BBC America, "Torchwood."
 
 I love Torchwood. I heard about this on the sci fi channel. I am glad that 
 she is back but I am sad that she is only back for three episodes. 
  
  
 I still don't understand what is the big deal with Capt. Jack. He does not 
 seem to be that cold leader his character is supposed to be. It is quite 
 laughable to see him be "threatening." 
 
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Re: [scifinoir2] China Bans Horror Movies?

[Martin]

China's rush toward the future is moving steadily in reverse. As for them 
banning horror movies, I can see that. Life in China itself is a horror movie, 
unless you're one of the privileged.

"Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  
 China Bans Horror Movies?
 
 By Alan Stanley Blair
 
 There has been some interesting news about the state of affairs in China 
 with regards to horror movies over the last few months, notably the 
 banning of Will Smith’s apocalyptic drama “I Am Legend.” Well, it looks 
 like that was only the beginning as China has now banned all horror 
 movies altogether.
 
 Apparently, the country is planning on cleaning up its image a little 
 before the Beijing Olympics which means horror has now been outlawed. 
 Horror Movies is reporting that Producers have been granted only tree 
 weeks to locate offensive material and turn it in to the authorities.
 
 What is classed as offensive? Anything featuring “wronged spirits and 
 violent ghosts, monsters, demons, and other inhuman portrayals, strange 
 and supernatural storytelling for the sole purpose of seeking terror and 
 horror,” the administration said.
 
 New entertainment guidelines are being introduced as a way to “control 
 and cleanse the negative effect these items have on society, and to 
 prevent horror, violent, cruel publications from entering the market 
 through official channels and to protect adolescents’ psychological 
health.”
 
 In December when news first hit about the release of “I Am Legend” in 
 the country, sources close to the China Film Group – essentially the 
 Chinese equivalent to Hollywood – insisted that the film was banned not 
 because of any scary or questionable content, but because it is an 
 American movie filmed in America. The organization announced that they 
 were implementing a full ban on all American movies in the country in 
 order to create a bigger market for projects produced by the China Film 
 Group.
 
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Re: [scifinoir2] China Bans Horror Movies?

[Martin]

Add on to previous, "Why would they need competition?"

"Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  
 China Bans Horror Movies?
 
 By Alan Stanley Blair
 
 There has been some interesting news about the state of affairs in China 
 with regards to horror movies over the last few months, notably the 
 banning of Will Smith’s apocalyptic drama “I Am Legend.” Well, it looks 
 like that was only the beginning as China has now banned all horror 
 movies altogether.
 
 Apparently, the country is planning on cleaning up its image a little 
 before the Beijing Olympics which means horror has now been outlawed. 
 Horror Movies is reporting that Producers have been granted only tree 
 weeks to locate offensive material and turn it in to the authorities.
 
 What is classed as offensive? Anything featuring “wronged spirits and 
 violent ghosts, monsters, demons, and other inhuman portrayals, strange 
 and supernatural storytelling for the sole purpose of seeking terror and 
 horror,” the administration said.
 
 New entertainment guidelines are being introduced as a way to “control 
 and cleanse the negative effect these items have on society, and to 
 prevent horror, violent, cruel publications from entering the market 
 through official channels and to protect adolescents’ psychological 
health.”
 
 In December when news first hit about the release of “I Am Legend” in 
 the country, sources close to the China Film Group – essentially the 
 Chinese equivalent to Hollywood – insisted that the film was banned not 
 because of any scary or questionable content, but because it is an 
 American movie filmed in America. The organization announced that they 
 were implementing a full ban on all American movies in the country in 
 order to create a bigger market for projects produced by the China Film 
 Group.
 
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Re: [scifinoir2] What's Coming Up In Genre TV?

[Martin]

Left left one out. (Pun utterly intended, and welcome.)

There's a series slated to air on A&E later this year, called "Cleaner". It 
stars Benjamin Bratt, once of "Law & Order", playing a guy who dies of a drug 
overdose after he loses his son, and is resurrected to help others beat their 
addictions, "by any means necessary".

http://www.variety.com/article/VR1117980708.html?categoryid=14&cs=1

"Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: By 
ED LEFT
Source: SyFy Portal
Feb-18-2008

The Writers Guild of America strike has ended, and the networks are 
making their plans for the remainder of the season and beyond. And 
because of the strike, we didn't have a normal pilot season.

Instead, the networks started ordering series directly instead of 
ordering a pilot, or even ordered foreign series.

Here's a look at the new series coming to your screens in the next 
twelve months or so.

"Dollhouse" will air on Fox, was created and produced by Joss Whedon, 
and stars Eliza Dushku. It's about men and women imprinted with 
different personalities and skills for different assignments, and then 
having those personalities wiped clean when the assignment is completed.

When between assignments, they live like children in the Dollhouse, 
their dormitory/laboratory. They live with no memories of which they 
are, until Echo, played by Dushku, begins to remember.

I like the concept behind this show. If it was airing on a cable 
network, I think we'd have a winner. However, it will be airing on Fox.

Joss Whedon is a genre fan favorite, but let's face it, he hasn't really 
had a hit show. Although "Buffy the Vampire Slayer" and "Angel" had long 
runs, they ran on minor netlets. Neither show would have lasted on a 
major network. "Firefly" did air on a major network, and it was a 
ratings failure.

Dushku previously starred in genre series "Tru Calling," and it also 
failed in the ratings. Combining Whedon, Dushku and Fox does not spell 
success. I think we'll only see the seven episodes contracted, if that.

"Fear Itself," a horror anthology from NBC, promises be much like 
Showtime's "Masters of Horror," providing 60-minute telefilms by name 
horror writers and directors. Anthologies don't work on network 
television anymore. This one is doomed before it starts.

"The Listener" is being produced by CTV in Canada, and has been bought 
by NBC to air this coming summer/fall. Paramedic Toby Logan, played by 
Craig Olejnik, has "the power to listen to people's most intimate thoughts."

With the help of his friend and partner Osman Bey (Ennis Esmer), they 
save lives and solve mysteries. Borrowing from "Heroes," they take the 
most lame of abilities and build a show around it. It could work, but it 
would depend on the strength of the writing and the acting.

  I don't hold out much hope.

"Middleman" from writer-producer Javier Grillo-Marxuach of "Lost" fame, 
stars Natalie Morales as a struggling artist recruited by an agency to 
fight comic-book style villains. Matt Keeslay co-stars as Middleman, her 
superhero guide and mentor.

It's on ABC Family, so expect it to be pointed at the family crowd, and 
it will probably have a "Kyle XY" look and feel. It seems on ABC Family, 
cast and chemistry is the most important aspect. If they're likeable, 
the show will probably stick around.

"Sanctuary," the Web series picked up by the SciFi Channel, stars Amanda 
Tapping as Dr. Helen Magnus. Magnus runs the Sanctuary, which is a home 
to various creatures of myth and legend, who must be tracked down and 
protected. Dr. Will Zimmerman, played by Robin Dunne assists her in her 
quest.

It's cheap to produce, and airs on SciFi. It's a match made in heaven. 
It also has "Stargate SG-1" connections, which will bring in a 
ready-made audience. This show could have legs.

"Section 8" has been picked up by ABC for a six-episode order. The 
premise is a group of everyday people with "advanced neurological 
abnormalities" who work for a secret government agency. This sounds like 
a very thinly veiled "Heroes" homage. Or maybe it's more like "Misfits 
of Science"? We'll find out.

"True Blood" is brought to us by HBO, and is based on the Southern 
Vampire book series by Charlaine Harris. It features Sookie Stackhouse, 
played by Anna Paquin, a mind reading barmaid in Louisiana who falls in 
love with vampire Bill Compton, played by Stephen Moyer.

Vampires are no longer a secret, and can feed on a synthetic blood 
developed by the Japanese. It's HBO, so you know they will be spending 
some money on it. But I wonder if vampire fans will tune into another 
vampire series so soon after the demise of "Blood Ties" and the fate of 
"Moonlight" still up in the air.

Getting Anna Paquin to star was a good move, and it guarantees I will 
check out the pilot, at least.

"Wizard's First Rule" is a new first-run syndication series set to air 
this fall. Produced by Spider-Man director Sam Raimi, this series is 
based on the

Re: [scifinoir2] News For Martha Jones Fans - Dr. Who/torchwoord

[Martin]

Tracey, I've been told that it is, by folks watching it. I can't, because I'm a 
poor man.

"Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  
 anyone here what Torchwood?  Scifi addict that I am, 
you know I have 
 been checking it out. So far, I think this season is better than last 
 season.
 
 Exclusive: 'Torchwood' Hub Means A New Martha
 
 By ALAN STANLEY BLAIR
 Source: SyFy Portal
 Feb-20-2008
 
 This story contains MODERATE SPOILERS for Season 2 of "Torchwood" and 
 the upcoming fourth season of "Doctor Who."
 
 Her name is Martha Jones, and last year she saved the world. But at the 
 end of her 13-episode stint as The Doctor’s companion, BBC bosses 
 announced that Freema Agyeman would be giving up her full-time role on 
 the series to make way for the return of Catherine Tate.
 
 The news both disheartened and elated Martha Jones fans, because 
 although the character will have a reduced part in the upcoming fourth 
 season of "Doctor Who," she will have an additional three-episode run on 
 the adult-themed spinoff for BBC Two and BBC America, "Torchwood."
 
 This announcement caused quite a media stir within the British press as 
 tabloids had already made a variety of outlandish claims about her 
 future with the series. However, in an exclusive interview with SyFy 
 Portal, Agyeman set the record straight as to why she’ll be stepping 
 into the Hub instead of the Tardis.
 
 "The decision was character based 100 percent," Agyeman told SyFy 
 Portal’s Alan Stanley Blair. "In this business, no one has to do anyone 
 any favors, and if they weren’t happy, I’d be completely away. The 
 rumors of my departure came five weeks before the press announcement on 
 the future of the series and it happened without any of the facts. I was 
 hugely pleased with the decision to go to ‘Torchwood.’ And gosh, going 
 back to ‘Who’ as well. There was no scandal, no ill feelings in any way. 
 The tabloids put two and two together and came up with five and a half."
 
 So, beginning with the sixth episode of “Torchwood,” the now fully 
 qualified Dr. Martha Jones will take on the weird, the wacky and the 
 paranormal from Cardiff Bay as part of Team Torchwood. But don’t expect 
 to see a darker Martha, especially since the BBC believes she’ll attract 
 a slightly younger audience.
 
 "They are very mindful that I’ll be going between the two shows," 
 Agyeman said. "We know Martha has a large youth following so we’ve been 
 mindful that we’re not having sex or swearing in case some of the 
 younger fans tune in. Even though there is a pre-watershed edit we can’t 
 control who will tune in."
 
 In the episode, Martha (who is now working for alien specialists UNIT 
 that was established in the original run of "Doctor Who") receives a 
 call from Capt. Jack Harkness (John Barrowman) following a string of 
 unexplained deaths. As a UNIT operative, she has also been looking into 
 the events and has more information than Torchwood does making her a 
 valuable asset to solving the case.
 
 "There is a really nice arc in those three episodes actually," she 
 said. "Jack calls Martha to give them a hand in Episode 6 and because 
 Martha is in UNIT now, she has a little bit more information that he 
 needs. And the consequences of that ends in a great cliff-hanger leading 
 into episode seven so it’s really like a good two-parter. By the end of 
 Episode 8, she’s part of the team. It is a very natural progression of 
 the character that I’m really pleased with.”
 
 Of course, with both shows being such different entities, how much of 
 the old “Doctor Who” dynamic crosses over with Martha? When Barrowman 
 initially returned to “Doctor Who” for its final three episodes last 
 season, we saw a lighter side to him than what was the norm for the 
 Torchwood leader. And Agyeman confirmed that the same holds true for Martha.
 
 “You take this character into a different environment and you wonder how 
 people take to that,” she said. “These are all new experiences for an 
 all-new character in a new environment. She’s harder, more qualified and 
 able to do things alone without looking to The Doctor. She’s very 
 different and she’ll be very different again when she’s about him. 
 Because when you are with different people you behave differently. 
 That’s how I perceived it and that’s how I tried to play it.”
 
 And as a result, fans can only expect a few references to their history 
 over the three-episode arc.
 
 "It’s touched on but not discussed -- mostly in a lovely moment between 
 the two characters,” she hinted. “It would be weird if they didn’t talk 
 about it, but the team don’t even know where he [Jack] went when he 
 vanished. In ‘Torchwood’ he is a much more mysterious character and the 
 team aren’t privy to all the details of his past. They don’t know how he 
 knows Martha. But

Re: [scifinoir2] More Toys Going to Movies - HELP

[Martin]

I'm going back to bed now... 8-O

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Universal Teams With Hasbro
http://www.scifi.com/scifiwire/index.php?category=0&id=48950
Universal Pictures and Hasbro have announced a six-year strategic 
partnership to produce at least four feature films based on some of 
Hasbro's best-known game and toy brands, including Monopoly; Candy Land; 
Clue; Ouija; Battleship; Magic, the Gathering; and Stretch Armstrong, 
according to The Hollywood Reporter.

Hasbro will partner exclusively with Universal for feature films, with 
the exception of Transformers and G.I. Joe, which are already at 
DreamWorks and Paramount.

The first film emerging from the deal will be released in 2010 or 2011, 
and Universal will release at least one film a year after that. Hasbro 
is co-financing script development with Universal and has the option of 
co-funding production of the films. Hasbro will retain all merchandising 
rights to the brands, and the companies will share in consumer products 
revenue generated by the movies.

Shmuger said Universal and Hasbro still are working out which brand will 
be the first project developed, but sources said it's likely to be 
Monopoly or Ouija. Hasbro COO Brian Goldner said Michael Bay and his 
Platinum Dune production company are signed on as producers for a Ouija 
project, and David Berenbaum has signed on to write a draft of a script. 
He said Hasbro is in negotiations with Ridley Scott on Monopoly.

Universal is owned by NBC Universal, which also owns SCIFI.com.


 
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Re: [scifinoir2] Bionic Woman Laid to Rest

[Martin]

Welcome to the horror that is my mind... ;D

"Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
Yikes!!!

Martin wrote:
> And *there*, Tracey, is where it gets scary. Kristanna Loken, anyone? 8-O
>
> "Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)"  wrote:   
> They would have to retool and replace the lead
>  
>  Martin wrote:
>  > I'm surprised that Skiffy didn't pick it up, since they're under the 
> NBCUniversal umbrella.
>  >
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Re: [scifinoir2] Bad Movies Conferssion Time Re: Jumper - SPOILER ALERT!!!!!!

[Martin]

Okay, I'm in...

"Crossworlds", starring a pre-"Sports Night" Josh Charles, who plays an aimless 
college student who gets picked up at a party by a hot blonde in a mini-skirt. 
(That was the first clue for me.)

Said blonde turns out to be a warrior from another dimension, who's after our 
hero because of a necklace he has, the last thing he has to remember his dead 
father by. 

Said necklace is actually a talisman that can, if wielded properly, allow the 
user to shape the Cosmos to his or her fancy, travel dimensions at will and 
other fun stuff. 

The blonde takes our hero to her mentor, played by Rutger Hauer, whom we're 
*supposed* to see as a famed and nigh-invincible warrior. (I might've bought 
it, if not for the fact that I was in better shape than he was, one lung and 
all.)

Anyhoo, the adventure just speeds- uh, *meanders* along to its utterly 
predictable climax. Watchign it, I was grateful for both the ending and the 
fact that I only paid six bucks for the video.

tdemorsella <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:   So gang.  
It seems like it is a given that some us go to or rent
 movies we pretty much knoware going to be bad.  So lets make it a
 confession time and open up about other bad flicks we saw knowing they
 were going to to be bad.  
 
 I have to think on it, but most recently, I saw Wild Hogs.  Don't kick
 me off the list, but I thought the first half was hilarious.  I
 watched a really bad one star movie, Cyber Wars also known as Avatar
 or  Matrix Hunter.  It starred Joseph Lau, David Warner (Jack the
 Ripper, Hog Father), and Joan Chen (twin Peaks) The Plot: In the near
 future in the Asian city-state Sintawan, everyone's identity is
 recorded in the vast CyberLink. The only way around this is using
 illegal simulated identity implants (sims). A young bounty hunter who
 makes her living tracking sims, finds herself the unlikely ally of a
 police detective who suspects the CyberLink is being perverted for an
 insidious and deadly purpose
 
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 > "Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
   I saw it.  It definitely was not theater
 worthy, but I think it would be 
 >  a great TV show.  I love the teleportation concept and some of the 
 >  mythology and laws were good too.  Unfortunately, it came across
 like a 
 >  pilot movie for a scifi tv show.   To mad it is not a tv series
 >  
 >  ravenadal wrote:
 >  > To me, teleportation has always been the coolest of all
 superpowers.  
 >  > Couple it with a "proximity sense," keen hearing (so you can hear 
 >  > when a shot is fired and teleport an instant before it gets there), 
 >  > or just plain "common sense" and you have one heck of a skill set!
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 >  >>>  On Feb 15, 2008 6:31 PM, ravenadal  wrote:
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 >  >>>  
 >  >>>  > There is a scene in the new Jumper movie (no, I have not seen 
 >  >>>   
 >  >> it)
 >  >> 
 >  >>>  >
 >  >>>  >  SPOILER
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 >  >>>  >  where the hero is watching the aftermath of the Hurricane 
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 >  >> Karina on
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 >  >> It was right in keeping with how his character was established in 
 >  >> the movie, although for a moment there I thought he might think of 
 >  >> using his abilities for good.  
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 >  >> Overall, I found the movie pretty good, with one exception.  How 
 >  >> 
 >  > the 
 >  >   
 >  >> hell did the Paladins continually catch jumpers?  Its one thing if 
 >  >> you get the drop on one, but if you're standing in FRONT of one who 
 >  >> is fresh and the jumper sees you and you try to get him with your 
 >  >> stun-wand, how are you gonna get him?  In less than three minutes, 
 >  >> my wife and I came up with several ways to use a teleportation 
 >  >> 
 >  > power 
 >  >   
 >  >> offesinvely (i.e. teleport in a circle around your opponent a la 
 >  >> Nightcrawer. et. al) and in all of those cases we came up with, no 
 >  >> normal human would have a chance against a jumper.
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Re: [scifinoir2] News For Martha Jones Fans - Dr. Who/torchwoord

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What's the premise of Torchwood? I only just now caught up on the eps of Dr. 
Who were Rose was trapped on the alternate Earth with her mom, sometimes 
boyfriend, and alternate reality father.  I saw the first four or five eps of 
the season with Martha, but that's it. I remember some references to Torchwood 
in the show. But didn't Captain Jack die in Dr. Who? How is he alive, what is 
Torchwood, and how did it come to exist in our time?

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Gymfig, the BBC is capitalizing on her unexpected popularity by split-tining 
her between "Torchwood" and "DW". She'll be in those eps on "Torchwood", then 
return to be the Doctor's co-companion with Catherine Tate for the rest of S4.

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season of "Doctor Who," she will have an additional three-episode run on 
the adult-themed spinoff for BBC Two and BBC America, "Torchwood."

I love Torchwood. I heard about this on the sci fi channel. I am glad that 
she is back but I am sad that she is only back for three episodes. 


I still don't understand what is the big deal with Capt. Jack. He does not 
seem to be that cold leader his character is supposed to be. It is quite 
laughable to see him be "threatening." 

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Re: [scifinoir2] McCain hopes Castro to "meet Marx soon"

[Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)]

I can't believe I used to admire this guy for his indepence.  He is 
truly scary

Martin wrote:
> John McCain, USNA '58. We're so proud of him. :P
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> INDIANAPOLIS (Reuters) - Republican presidential front-runner John 
> McCain suggested on Friday that he hoped retired Cuban leader Fidel 
> Castro would die soon and said Castro's brother will be a worse leader.
>
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> "I hope he has the opportunity to meet Karl Marx very soon," McCain told 
> a town-hall style meeting of about 150 people, referring to communist 
> theoretician Marx who died on March 14, 1883.
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> Castro, 81, announced on Tuesday he was stepping down as president and 
> commander-in-chief of Cuba's armed forces after 49 years in power. His 
> brother Raul Castro is expected to be named Cuba's new head of state on 
> Sunday.
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> "Apparently he is trying to groom his brother Raul," McCain said. "Raul 
> is worse in many respects than Fidel was."
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> Castro has not appeared in public since undergoing stomach surgery and 
> handing power temporarily to Raul in July 2006.
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> over his last major Republican rival, former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee.
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> George W. Bush, who has tightened a decades-long trade embargo and has 
> rejected easing sanctions without a transition to democracy.
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> that if he wins the November 4 U.S. presidential election he would keep 
> up pressure for political change in Cuba's one-party state.
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> few years after Castro's 1959 revolution on the Caribbean island.
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> participating in the torture of some of his fellow prisoners in Hanoi 
> during the Vietnam War.
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Re: [scifinoir2] News For Martha Jones Fans - Dr. Who/torchwoord

[Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)]

So, Martin, what do you think is the real story?  We heard rumors that 
they are getting rid of her,  They deny them only to tell us that she is 
leaving who to visit Torchwood for three weeks and then return for four 
weeks with the new companion.  Then we hear... no doctor for a year.  
then we hear, Catherine Tate is out as the companion and that Billy 
Piper is in.

You are the Dr. Who expert here.  Can you tell me what you think 
happened? in happening? and what you think will happen. 

and while you are at it, do you know anything about Primeval? 
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0808096/

I read that is is a sort of Torchwood with Dinos.

Martin wrote:
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> return to be the Doctor's co-companion with Catherine Tate for the rest of S4.
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>  she is back but I am sad that she is only back for three episodes. 
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Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Jumper - SPOILER ALERT!!!!!!

[Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)]

You guys are not really different than Chris and I.  While we have 
always gone out of our way not to say things that would hurt each other, 
we both can be marathon fighters.  Our circumstances forced us to do 
another way.  We had Kira.  When she was an infant, we would go in 
another room and argue in low tones.  (or at least try to).  But it was 
still good practice with learning not to yell.   Can't say that I have 
mastered it. Then with that horrible situation in Mexico with our lives 
falling apart and both of us getting sick, a couple of things happened.  
We were arguing all the time because of our dire circumstances, she was 
older and harder to keep away from the fray. She could see that I seemed 
to be dying.  She asked me if I was going away sometimes and started 
having nightmares.   I was in so much pain that her normally extremely 
affectionate Mom,  winced  she touched me.  Not a great situation for 
her.  With the situation so bad, we had to do something about what was 
in our control. So we started discussing way to better handle our 
disagreements and to really talk to each other when we were not angry.  
Separating and coming back seemed to be the best way.  Our true nature 
is to come out swinging and win, but in the end you get nothing.  So 
this stepping back approach, while less rewarding in the very short 
term, usually has us talking it out and making up so we can be the 
laughing, teasing, silly and affectionate parents Kira is used to having 
around. 

Sounds like even without a kid around, you guys are working to do the 
same thing.

When are you going to see Jumper? 

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> literally, if really passionate about something. My wife and I are admittedly 
> both a bit sensitive and stubborn, so we can go for a while. I long ago 
> learned to figure out when it's time to just leave the discussion for a while 
> in order to go somewhere and cool down, then come back and talk. If she's 
> being recalcitrant or even hurtful, I have to make an effort to remind myself 
> she's not intentionally hurting me, and once i can remember that, i can 
> discuss things more rationally. Same with her.
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> I have a really bad temper, which i'm sure is genetically inherited from my 
> birth mom, so I have to be sure not to take stuff personally too quickly.  
> Combine that with my love for talking and my desire to understand all sides 
> of an issue, and whoo boy!  Back when i was home for my mother's funeral, my 
> older brother jumped me about a comment I made about Mom that he felt was 
> disrespectful. That led to all kinds of stuff being aired in a five hour 
> discussion from 1 am to sunrise. At the end, he was amazed that I was still 
> able to discuss and debate with vigor, though dead on my feet.
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> We fight now and then. Its rarely serious. It happens with two people 
> who both are right :). One of the reasons I married him, is he does 
> not like prolonged battles nor misunderstandings. I'm the same way, I 
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> When I came home, we talked and made up. We are cool. thanks for 
> asking :)
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>> thanks, that helps a great bit.
>> Yout two cool now?
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>> Actually, that is why I did it. Chris and I had a fight. When that 
>> happens, we try to walk away and come back together after we cool off. 
>> I needed to kill a few hours, and take my mind off stuff, so I drove up 
>> to the theater. Jumper was about to start, so I chose it. It took my 
>> mind off of stuff. I know you got more serious stuff going on, but it 
>> is just what the doctor ordered. I went with very low expectations so I 
>> enjoyed it and went home to make up with Chris
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>>> at least a good popcorn flick Phyllis and I can lose ourselves in for a 
>>> couple of hours without feeling regret?
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>>> I saw it. It definitely was not theater worthy, but I think it would be 
>>> a great TV show. I love the teleportation concept and some of the 
>>> mythology and laws were good too. Unfortunately, it came across like a 
>>> pilot movie for a scifi tv show. To mad it is not a tv series
>>>
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Re: [scifinoir2] Bionic Woman Laid to Rest

[Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)]

Keith, you are making my heart hurt.  Odyssey 5, The Dresden files, 
Franks place and exo-squad in the same sentence.  If only  Don't you 
have Exo-squad on DVD?

Martin wrote:
> Keith, again we're on the same wavelength.
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> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i often have this silly fantasy that a really rich 
> billionaire could create a cable channel and fund shows that draw 
> small-but-dedicated audiences for their quality. In this fantasy world, the 
> billionaire would underwrite shows like "Threshold", "John Doe", "Odyssey 5", 
> "Space: Above and Beyond", "The Dresden Files", "Karen Sisco".  We'd get 
> another season of "Exo-Squad" and "Samurai Jack".  The like of Coto would get 
> a chance to really see their projects to fruition. 
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> "Frank's Place" would return.
>
> Yeah, yeah, a fantasy indeed. No one would do that, and even if they did, the 
> backer would likely not have the same taste as mine, and still cancel good 
> shows.  But in a world where billionaires buy boats big as apartment 
> complexes and fund science fiction halls of fame, i can dream, can't i???
>
> -- Original message -- 
> From: "Lockhart, Daryle"  
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> Jason Cahill and Manny Coto should do a show together. They are both great 
> at saving failed projects.
>
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>> It's now official: The Commander in Chief award for the most spectacular
>> freshman flame-out of the 07-08 TV season goes to... Bionic Woman!
>>
>> Although NBC isn't talking, I'm told by multiple sources that Bionic
>> staffers were informed late last week that the troubled reboot has
>> indeed been canceled. That means no spring relaunch under new
>> show-runner Jason Cahill â¤" which is too bad. Cahill's a talented guy
>> (see: The Sopranos), and I was anxious to see what he would do with the
>> show. But I guess it wasn't meant to be.
>>
>> At least now the first stage of grief can get under way. No, not shock â¤"
>> the snarky postmortem! What do you think felled Bionic Woman in the end?
>> Was it the lackluster pilot? The absence of a clear, creative vision?
>> Not enough Starbuck? Too much Isaiah Washington? All of the above? Sound
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Re: [scifinoir2] What's Coming Up In Genre TV?

[Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)]

Which ones are you guys looking forward to/?  You think any will 
actually survive?/

Martin wrote:
> Left left one out. (Pun utterly intended, and welcome.)
>
> There's a series slated to air on A&E later this year, called "Cleaner". It 
> stars Benjamin Bratt, once of "Law & Order", playing a guy who dies of a drug 
> overdose after he loses his son, and is resurrected to help others beat their 
> addictions, "by any means necessary".
>
> http://www.variety.com/article/VR1117980708.html?categoryid=14&cs=1
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> "Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: By 
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> The Writers Guild of America strike has ended, and the networks are 
> making their plans for the remainder of the season and beyond. And 
> because of the strike, we didn't have a normal pilot season.
>
> Instead, the networks started ordering series directly instead of 
> ordering a pilot, or even ordered foreign series.
>
> Here's a look at the new series coming to your screens in the next 
> twelve months or so.
>
> "Dollhouse" will air on Fox, was created and produced by Joss Whedon, 
> and stars Eliza Dushku. It's about men and women imprinted with 
> different personalities and skills for different assignments, and then 
> having those personalities wiped clean when the assignment is completed.
>
> When between assignments, they live like children in the Dollhouse, 
> their dormitory/laboratory. They live with no memories of which they 
> are, until Echo, played by Dushku, begins to remember.
>
> I like the concept behind this show. If it was airing on a cable 
> network, I think we'd have a winner. However, it will be airing on Fox.
>
> Joss Whedon is a genre fan favorite, but let's face it, he hasn't really 
> had a hit show. Although "Buffy the Vampire Slayer" and "Angel" had long 
> runs, they ran on minor netlets. Neither show would have lasted on a 
> major network. "Firefly" did air on a major network, and it was a 
> ratings failure.
>
> Dushku previously starred in genre series "Tru Calling," and it also 
> failed in the ratings. Combining Whedon, Dushku and Fox does not spell 
> success. I think we'll only see the seven episodes contracted, if that.
>
> "Fear Itself," a horror anthology from NBC, promises be much like 
> Showtime's "Masters of Horror," providing 60-minute telefilms by name 
> horror writers and directors. Anthologies don't work on network 
> television anymore. This one is doomed before it starts.
>
> "The Listener" is being produced by CTV in Canada, and has been bought 
> by NBC to air this coming summer/fall. Paramedic Toby Logan, played by 
> Craig Olejnik, has "the power to listen to people's most intimate thoughts."
>
> With the help of his friend and partner Osman Bey (Ennis Esmer), they 
> save lives and solve mysteries. Borrowing from "Heroes," they take the 
> most lame of abilities and build a show around it. It could work, but it 
> would depend on the strength of the writing and the acting.
>
>   I don't hold out much hope.
>
> "Middleman" from writer-producer Javier Grillo-Marxuach of "Lost" fame, 
> stars Natalie Morales as a struggling artist recruited by an agency to 
> fight comic-book style villains. Matt Keeslay co-stars as Middleman, her 
> superhero guide and mentor.
>
> It's on ABC Family, so expect it to be pointed at the family crowd, and 
> it will probably have a "Kyle XY" look and feel. It seems on ABC Family, 
> cast and chemistry is the most important aspect. If they're likeable, 
> the show will probably stick around.
>
> "Sanctuary," the Web series picked up by the SciFi Channel, stars Amanda 
> Tapping as Dr. Helen Magnus. Magnus runs the Sanctuary, which is a home 
> to various creatures of myth and legend, who must be tracked down and 
> protected. Dr. Will Zimmerman, played by Robin Dunne assists her in her 
> quest.
>
> It's cheap to produce, and airs on SciFi. It's a match made in heaven. 
> It also has "Stargate SG-1" connections, which will bring in a 
> ready-made audience. This show could have legs.
>
> "Section 8" has been picked up by ABC for a six-episode order. The 
> premise is a group of everyday people with "advanced neurological 
> abnormalities" who work for a secret government agency. This sounds like 
> a very thinly veiled "Heroes" homage. Or maybe it's more like "Misfits 
> of Science"? We'll find out.
>
> "True Blood" is brought to us by HBO, and is based on the Southern 
> Vampire book series by Charlaine Harris. It features Sookie Stackhouse, 
> played by Anna Paquin, a mind reading barmaid in Louisiana who falls in 
> love with vampire Bill Compton, played by Stephen Moyer.
>
> Vampires are no longer a secret, and can feed on a synthetic blood 
> developed by the Japanese. It's HBO, so you know they will be spending 
> some money on it. But I wonder if vampire fans will tune into another 
> vampire series so soon after the demise of "Blood Ties" and the fate of 
> "Moonlight" still

Re: [scifinoir2] News For Martha Jones Fans - Dr. Who/torchwoord

[Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)]

No episodes online?

Martin wrote:
> Tracey, I've been told that it is, by folks watching it. I can't, because I'm 
> a poor man.
>
> "Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>anyone here what Torchwood?  Scifi addict that I 
> am, you know I have 
>  been checking it out. So far, I think this season is better than last 
>  season.
>  
>  Exclusive: 'Torchwood' Hub Means A New Martha
>  
>  By ALAN STANLEY BLAIR
>  Source: SyFy Portal
>  Feb-20-2008
>  
>  This story contains MODERATE SPOILERS for Season 2 of "Torchwood" and 
>  the upcoming fourth season of "Doctor Who."
>  
>  Her name is Martha Jones, and last year she saved the world. But at the 
>  end of her 13-episode stint as The Doctor’s companion, BBC bosses 
>  announced that Freema Agyeman would be giving up her full-time role on 
>  the series to make way for the return of Catherine Tate.
>  
>  The news both disheartened and elated Martha Jones fans, because 
>  although the character will have a reduced part in the upcoming fourth 
>  season of "Doctor Who," she will have an additional three-episode run on 
>  the adult-themed spinoff for BBC Two and BBC America, "Torchwood."
>  
>  This announcement caused quite a media stir within the British press as 
>  tabloids had already made a variety of outlandish claims about her 
>  future with the series. However, in an exclusive interview with SyFy 
>  Portal, Agyeman set the record straight as to why she’ll be stepping 
>  into the Hub instead of the Tardis.
>  
>  "The decision was character based 100 percent," Agyeman told SyFy 
>  Portal’s Alan Stanley Blair. "In this business, no one has to do anyone 
>  any favors, and if they weren’t happy, I’d be completely away. The 
>  rumors of my departure came five weeks before the press announcement on 
>  the future of the series and it happened without any of the facts. I was 
>  hugely pleased with the decision to go to ‘Torchwood.’ And gosh, going 
>  back to ‘Who’ as well. There was no scandal, no ill feelings in any way. 
>  The tabloids put two and two together and came up with five and a half."
>  
>  So, beginning with the sixth episode of “Torchwood,” the now fully 
>  qualified Dr. Martha Jones will take on the weird, the wacky and the 
>  paranormal from Cardiff Bay as part of Team Torchwood. But don’t expect 
>  to see a darker Martha, especially since the BBC believes she’ll attract 
>  a slightly younger audience.
>  
>  "They are very mindful that I’ll be going between the two shows," 
>  Agyeman said. "We know Martha has a large youth following so we’ve been 
>  mindful that we’re not having sex or swearing in case some of the 
>  younger fans tune in. Even though there is a pre-watershed edit we can’t 
>  control who will tune in."
>  
>  In the episode, Martha (who is now working for alien specialists UNIT 
>  that was established in the original run of "Doctor Who") receives a 
>  call from Capt. Jack Harkness (John Barrowman) following a string of 
>  unexplained deaths. As a UNIT operative, she has also been looking into 
>  the events and has more information than Torchwood does making her a 
>  valuable asset to solving the case.
>  
>  "There is a really nice arc in those three episodes actually," she 
>  said. "Jack calls Martha to give them a hand in Episode 6 and because 
>  Martha is in UNIT now, she has a little bit more information that he 
>  needs. And the consequences of that ends in a great cliff-hanger leading 
>  into episode seven so it’s really like a good two-parter. By the end of 
>  Episode 8, she’s part of the team. It is a very natural progression of 
>  the character that I’m really pleased with.”
>  
>  Of course, with both shows being such different entities, how much of 
>  the old “Doctor Who” dynamic crosses over with Martha? When Barrowman 
>  initially returned to “Doctor Who” for its final three episodes last 
>  season, we saw a lighter side to him than what was the norm for the 
>  Torchwood leader. And Agyeman confirmed that the same holds true for Martha.
>  
>  “You take this character into a different environment and you wonder how 
>  people take to that,” she said. “These are all new experiences for an 
>  all-new character in a new environment. She’s harder, more qualified and 
>  able to do things alone without looking to The Doctor. She’s very 
>  different and she’ll be very different again when she’s about him. 
>  Because when you are with different people you behave differently. 
>  That’s how I perceived it and that’s how I tried to play it.”
>  
>  And as a result, fans can only expect a few references to their history 
>  over the three-episode arc.
>  
>  "It’s touched on but not discussed -- mostly in a lovely moment between 
>  the two characters,” she hinted. “It would be weird if they didn’t 
> talk 
>  about it, but the team don’

Re: [scifinoir2] More Toys Going to Movies - HELP

[Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)]

OK now that I've calmed down  :)  What is the gathering and magic?   
Hasn't Clue been done?  Don't we live and breath monopoly?

Martin wrote:
> I'm going back to bed now... 8-O
>
> "Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: No 
> good can come from this.
>
>
> Universal Teams With Hasbro
> http://www.scifi.com/scifiwire/index.php?category=0&id=48950
> Universal Pictures and Hasbro have announced a six-year strategic 
> partnership to produce at least four feature films based on some of 
> Hasbro's best-known game and toy brands, including Monopoly; Candy Land; 
> Clue; Ouija; Battleship; Magic, the Gathering; and Stretch Armstrong, 
> according to The Hollywood Reporter.
>
> Hasbro will partner exclusively with Universal for feature films, with 
> the exception of Transformers and G.I. Joe, which are already at 
> DreamWorks and Paramount.
>
> The first film emerging from the deal will be released in 2010 or 2011, 
> and Universal will release at least one film a year after that. Hasbro 
> is co-financing script development with Universal and has the option of 
> co-funding production of the films. Hasbro will retain all merchandising 
> rights to the brands, and the companies will share in consumer products 
> revenue generated by the movies.
>
> Shmuger said Universal and Hasbro still are working out which brand will 
> be the first project developed, but sources said it's likely to be 
> Monopoly or Ouija. Hasbro COO Brian Goldner said Michael Bay and his 
> Platinum Dune production company are signed on as producers for a Ouija 
> project, and David Berenbaum has signed on to write a draft of a script. 
> He said Hasbro is in negotiations with Ridley Scott on Monopoly.
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Re: [scifinoir2] Bad Movies Conferssion Time Re: Jumper - SPOILER ALERT!!!!!!

[Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)]

That sounds like a good...er bad one.  anybody else brave enough to shae?

Martin wrote:
> Okay, I'm in...
>
> "Crossworlds", starring a pre-"Sports Night" Josh Charles, who plays an 
> aimless college student who gets picked up at a party by a hot blonde in a 
> mini-skirt. (That was the first clue for me.)
>
> Said blonde turns out to be a warrior from another dimension, who's after our 
> hero because of a necklace he has, the last thing he has to remember his dead 
> father by. 
>
> Said necklace is actually a talisman that can, if wielded properly, allow the 
> user to shape the Cosmos to his or her fancy, travel dimensions at will and 
> other fun stuff. 
>
> The blonde takes our hero to her mentor, played by Rutger Hauer, whom we're 
> *supposed* to see as a famed and nigh-invincible warrior. (I might've bought 
> it, if not for the fact that I was in better shape than he was, one lung and 
> all.)
>
> Anyhoo, the adventure just speeds- uh, *meanders* along to its utterly 
> predictable climax. Watchign it, I was grateful for both the ending and the 
> fact that I only paid six bucks for the video.
>
> tdemorsella <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:   So gang. 
>  It seems like it is a given that some us go to or rent
>  movies we pretty much knoware going to be bad.  So lets make it a
>  confession time and open up about other bad flicks we saw knowing they
>  were going to to be bad.  
>  
>  I have to think on it, but most recently, I saw Wild Hogs.  Don't kick
>  me off the list, but I thought the first half was hilarious.  I
>  watched a really bad one star movie, Cyber Wars also known as Avatar
>  or  Matrix Hunter.  It starred Joseph Lau, David Warner (Jack the
>  Ripper, Hog Father), and Joan Chen (twin Peaks) The Plot: In the near
>  future in the Asian city-state Sintawan, everyone's identity is
>  recorded in the vast CyberLink. The only way around this is using
>  illegal simulated identity implants (sims). A young bounty hunter who
>  makes her living tracking sims, finds herself the unlikely ally of a
>  police detective who suspects the CyberLink is being perverted for an
>  insidious and deadly purpose
>  
>  Okay, your turn
>  
>  tracey
>  
>  --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  >
>  > Give 'em time, Tracey.
>  > 
>  > "Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I saw it.  It definitely was not theater
>  worthy, but I think it would be 
>  >  a great TV show.  I love the teleportation concept and some of the 
>  >  mythology and laws were good too.  Unfortunately, it came across
>  like a 
>  >  pilot movie for a scifi tv show.   To mad it is not a tv series
>  >  
>  >  ravenadal wrote:
>  >  > To me, teleportation has always been the coolest of all
>  superpowers.  
>  >  > Couple it with a "proximity sense," keen hearing (so you can hear 
>  >  > when a shot is fired and teleport an instant before it gets there), 
>  >  > or just plain "common sense" and you have one heck of a skill set!
>  >  >
>  >  > ~rave!
>  >  >
>  >  > --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, "DJ VIBE"  wrote:
>  >  >   
>  >  >>  
>  >  >> 
>  >  >>>  On Feb 15, 2008 6:31 PM, ravenadal  wrote:
>  >  >>>  >
>  >  >>>  
>  >  >>>  > There is a scene in the new Jumper movie (no, I have not seen 
>  >  >>>   
>  >  >> it)
>  >  >> 
>  >  >>>  >
>  >  >>>  >  SPOILER
>  >  >>>  >  
>  >  >>>   
>  >  > ALERT!!
>  >  >   
>  >  >>>  >
>  >  >>>  >  where the hero is watching the aftermath of the Hurricane 
>  >  >>>   
>  >  >> Karina on
>  >  >> 
>  >  >>>  >  his television. He gets dressed and teleports...to London, 
>  >  >>>   
>  >  >> where he
>  >  >> 
>  >  >>>  >  has a date. So much for great responsibility coming with 
>  >  >>>   
>  >  > great 
>  >  >   
>  >  >> power!
>  >  >> 
>  >  >>>  >
>  >  >>>   
>  >  >> It was right in keeping with how his character was established in 
>  >  >> the movie, although for a moment there I thought he might think of 
>  >  >> using his abilities for good.  
>  >  >>
>  >  >> Overall, I found the movie pretty good, with one exception.  How 
>  >  >> 
>  >  > the 
>  >  >   
>  >  >> hell did the Paladins continually catch jumpers?  Its one thing if 
>  >  >> you get the drop on one, but if you're standing in FRONT of one who 
>  >  >> is fresh and the jumper sees you and you try to get him with your 
>  >  >> stun-wand, how are you gonna get him?  In less than three minutes, 
>  >  >> my wife and I came up with several ways to use a teleportation 
>  >  >> 
>  >  > power 
>  >  >   
>  >  >> offesinvely (i.e. teleport in a circle around your opponent a la 
>  >  >> Nightcrawer. et. al) and in all of those cases we came up with, no 
>  >  >> normal human would have a chance against a jumper.
>  >  >>
>  >  >> 
>  >  >
>  >  >
>  >  >
>  

Re: [scifinoir2] News For Martha Jones Fans - Dr. Who/torchwoord

[Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)]

Something happened when Jack died and at the end of the episode you saw, 
he was still alive.  Now he can't die.  In fact, he and Rose have met 
him when they travel to the future.  They just do not know it is him.  I 
can not tell you more because it is a spoiler

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> What's the premise of Torchwood? I only just now caught up on the eps of Dr. 
> Who were Rose was trapped on the alternate Earth with her mom, sometimes 
> boyfriend, and alternate reality father.  I saw the first four or five eps of 
> the season with Martha, but that's it. I remember some references to 
> Torchwood in the show. But didn't Captain Jack die in Dr. Who? How is he 
> alive, what is Torchwood, and how did it come to exist in our time?
>
> -- Original message -- 
> From: Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> Gymfig, the BBC is capitalizing on her unexpected popularity by split-tining 
> her between "Torchwood" and "DW". She'll be in those eps on "Torchwood", then 
> return to be the Doctor's co-companion with Catherine Tate for the rest of S4.
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
> In a message dated 2/22/2008 7:12:33 PM Eastern Standard Time, 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>
> season of "Doctor Who," she will have an additional three-episode run on 
> the adult-themed spinoff for BBC Two and BBC America, "Torchwood."
>
> I love Torchwood. I heard about this on the sci fi channel. I am glad that 
> she is back but I am sad that she is only back for three episodes. 
>
>
> I still don't understand what is the big deal with Capt. Jack. He does not 
> seem to be that cold leader his character is supposed to be. It is quite 
> laughable to see him be "threatening." 
>
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Re: [scifinoir2] McCain hopes Castro to "meet Marx soon"

[Bosco Bosco]

You admired an image that had absolutley nothing to do with reality.
He's idependent when it's convenient and he's not when it's not.

Up to November he was staunchly anti-torture. Come February, he's
voting to make Waterboarding legal. Almost immediately after he's
recieving the support various major important conservative coalitions
and pundits who had previously been villifying him. I can't say for
sure any deals were struck but I sure do smell some party-line stink
in the air. I've always thought that John McCain is just another rich
white tool who's essentially down for the rich white tool platform.

Bosco
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> I can't believe I used to admire this guy for his indepence.  He is
> 
> truly scary
> 
> Martin wrote:
> > John McCain, USNA '58. We're so proud of him. :P
> >
> > "Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: By Jason Szep Fri Feb
> 22, 11:34 AM ET
> >
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http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080222/od_uk_nm/oukoe_uk_usa_politics_mccain_castro;_ylt=AmvlgDEPu9NzP1gcKIAEaHztiBIF
> > INDIANAPOLIS (Reuters) - Republican presidential front-runner
> John 
> > McCain suggested on Friday that he hoped retired Cuban leader
> Fidel 
> > Castro would die soon and said Castro's brother will be a worse
> leader.
> >
> >
> > "I hope he has the opportunity to meet Karl Marx very soon,"
> McCain told 
> > a town-hall style meeting of about 150 people, referring to
> communist 
> > theoretician Marx who died on March 14, 1883.
> >
> > Castro, 81, announced on Tuesday he was stepping down as
> president and 
> > commander-in-chief of Cuba's armed forces after 49 years in
> power. His 
> > brother Raul Castro is expected to be named Cuba's new head of
> state on 
> > Sunday.
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> > "Apparently he is trying to groom his brother Raul," McCain said.
> "Raul 
> > is worse in many respects than Fidel was."
> >
> > Castro has not appeared in public since undergoing stomach
> surgery and 
> > handing power temporarily to Raul in July 2006.
> >
> > McCain, a four-term Arizona senator, has an almost insurmountable
> lead 
> > over his last major Republican rival, former Arkansas Gov. Mike
> Huckabee.
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> > McCain's approach to Cuba has generally echoed that of U.S.
> President 
> > George W. Bush, who has tightened a decades-long trade embargo
> and has 
> > rejected easing sanctions without a transition to democracy.
> >
> > McCain, who is popular among conservative Cuban-Americans, also
> has said 
> > that if he wins the November 4 U.S. presidential election he
> would keep 
> > up pressure for political change in Cuba's one-party state.
> >
> > That includes a travel ban and trade and financial sanctions
> enforced a 
> > few years after Castro's 1959 revolution on the Caribbean island.
> >
> > McCain, 71, a former prisoner of war in Vietnam, has accused
> Cubans of 
> > participating in the torture of some of his fellow prisoners in
> Hanoi 
> > during the Vietnam War.
> >
> > (To read more about the U.S. political campaign, visit Reuters
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Re: [scifinoir2] McCain hopes Castro to "meet Marx soon"

[Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)]

Obviously.  what an ass
Bosco Bosco wrote:
> You admired an image that had absolutley nothing to do with reality.
> He's idependent when it's convenient and he's not when it's not.
>
> Bosco
> --- "Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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>   
>> I can't believe I used to admire this guy for his indepence.  He is
>>
>> truly scary
>>
>> Martin wrote:
>> 
>>> John McCain, USNA '58. We're so proud of him. :P
>>>
>>> "Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)"
>>>   
>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: By Jason Szep Fri Feb
>> 22, 11:34 AM ET
>> 
> http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080222/od_uk_nm/oukoe_uk_usa_politics_mccain_castro;_ylt=AmvlgDEPu9NzP1gcKIAEaHztiBIF
>   
>>> INDIANAPOLIS (Reuters) - Republican presidential front-runner
>>>   
>> John 
>> 
>>> McCain suggested on Friday that he hoped retired Cuban leader
>>>   
>> Fidel 
>> 
>>> Castro would die soon and said Castro's brother will be a worse
>>>   
>> leader.
>> 
>>> "I hope he has the opportunity to meet Karl Marx very soon,"
>>>   
>> McCain told 
>> 
>>> a town-hall style meeting of about 150 people, referring to
>>>   
>> communist 
>> 
>>> theoretician Marx who died on March 14, 1883.
>>>
>>> Castro, 81, announced on Tuesday he was stepping down as
>>>   
>> president and 
>> 
>>> commander-in-chief of Cuba's armed forces after 49 years in
>>>   
>> power. His 
>> 
>>> brother Raul Castro is expected to be named Cuba's new head of
>>>   
>> state on 
>> 
>>> Sunday.
>>>
>>> "Apparently he is trying to groom his brother Raul," McCain said.
>>>   
>> "Raul 
>> 
>>> is worse in many respects than Fidel was."
>>>
>>> Castro has not appeared in public since undergoing stomach
>>>   
>> surgery and 
>> 
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Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Jumper - SPOILER ALERT!!!!!!

[KeithBJohnson]

Same here. Whenever Phyllis and i argue, i always ask myself one question "Is 
she *trying* to hurt me?"  The day that question is answered "yes", there's an 
issue. But as long as each of us knows the other is simply trying to express an 
opinion, that we love each other still (and perhaps more importantly, *like* 
each other) then we can put the overly sensitive nature aside and try to work 
things out. So much of it is that the person you trust the most can also hurt 
you the easiest, so you have to  remember that it's not intentional. I've seen 
couples who argue who are trying to hurt it each other, and it's a painful and 
sad thing to watch that often ends in divorce.  

We also do things like making sure to let the other talk instead of talking 
over each other, saying things like "This is what I feel you're saying", or 
"What I just heard you say is". The latter allows the other to say "no, that's 
not what I meant" or "Sorry, i used the wrong words".  This replaces stuff like 
"Don't say that to me!" or "How dare you say that?!" etc.  Frankly, some of the 
same tools we're taught to negotiate disagreements in the business 
world--trying to step back, analyze, restate--help in relationships.

What's helped me too is like you--life. Losing so many loved ones, having so 
many health issues ourselves recently, trying to find happiness in life 
sometimes when jobs and finances beat you down. You can do two things: start 
working with each other more as friends and partners, or let the anger/fear 
make you snipe at each other. We've taken conscious steps to remind ourselves 
that we're partners and best friends who need to be working together, not 
against each other. And frankly I've spent more time asking myself sometimes 
why I'm angry during an argument: is it really at her, or is it symptomatic of 
more general dissatisfaction with other aspects of my life. That makes me focus 
more on changing the things in my life that are making me unhappy, trying to 
live a better and happier life and remove those sources of stress that may come 
out in arguments with my wife, but really have nothing to do with her.

-- Original message -- 
From: "Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
You guys are not really different than Chris and I. While we have 
always gone out of our way not to say things that would hurt each other, 
we both can be marathon fighters. Our circumstances forced us to do 
another way. We had Kira. When she was an infant, we would go in 
another room and argue in low tones. (or at least try to). But it was 
still good practice with learning not to yell. Can't say that I have 
mastered it. Then with that horrible situation in Mexico with our lives 
falling apart and both of us getting sick, a couple of things happened. 
We were arguing all the time because of our dire circumstances, she was 
older and harder to keep away from the fray. She could see that I seemed 
to be dying. She asked me if I was going away sometimes and started 
having nightmares. I was in so much pain that her normally extremely 
affectionate Mom, winced she touched me. Not a great situation for 
her. With the situation so bad, we had to do something about what was 
in our control. So we started discussing way to better handle our 
disagreements and to really talk to each other when we were not angry. 
Separating and coming back seemed to be the best way. Our true nature 
is to come out swinging and win, but in the end you get nothing. So 
this stepping back approach, while less rewarding in the very short 
term, usually has us talking it out and making up so we can be the 
laughing, teasing, silly and affectionate parents Kira is used to having 
around. 

Sounds like even without a kid around, you guys are working to do the 
same thing.

When are you going to see Jumper? 

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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> both a bit sensitive and stubborn, so we can go for a while. I long ago 
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Re: [scifinoir2] Bionic Woman Laid to Rest

[KeithBJohnson]

Yes, indeed. I found a decent transfer of Exo-Squad to DVD on eBay.

-- Original message -- 
From: "Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 

> Keith, you are making my heart hurt. Odyssey 5, The Dresden files, 
> Franks place and exo-squad in the same sentence. If only Don't you 
> have Exo-squad on DVD? 
> 
> Martin wrote: 
> > Keith, again we're on the same wavelength. 
> > 
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i often have this silly fantasy that a really 
> rich billionaire could create a cable channel and fund shows that draw 
> small-but-dedicated audiences for their quality. In this fantasy world, the 
> billionaire would underwrite shows like "Threshold", "John Doe", "Odyssey 5", 
> "Space: Above and Beyond", "The Dresden Files", "Karen Sisco". We'd get 
> another 
> season of "Exo-Squad" and "Samurai Jack". The like of Coto would get a chance 
> to really see their projects to fruition. 
> > 
> > "Frank's Place" would return. 
> > 
> > Yeah, yeah, a fantasy indeed. No one would do that, and even if they did, 
> > the 
> backer would likely not have the same taste as mine, and still cancel good 
> shows. But in a world where billionaires buy boats big as apartment complexes 
> and fund science fiction halls of fame, i can dream, can't i??? 
> > 
> > -- Original message -- 
> > From: "Lockhart, Daryle" 
> > 
> > Jason Cahill and Manny Coto should do a show together. They are both great 
> > at saving failed projects. 
> > 
> > On Fri, 22 Feb 2008 11:26:42 -0500, Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. 
> > Minor) wrote: 
> > 
> > 
> >> It's now official: The Commander in Chief award for the most spectacular 
> >> freshman flame-out of the 07-08 TV season goes to... Bionic Woman! 
> >> 
> >> Although NBC isn't talking, I'm told by multiple sources that Bionic 
> >> staffers were informed late last week that the troubled reboot has 
> >> indeed been canceled. That means no spring relaunch under new 
> >> show-runner Jason Cahill â¤" which is too bad. Cahill's a talented guy 
> >> (see: The Sopranos), and I was anxious to see what he would do with the 
> >> show. But I guess it wasn't meant to be. 
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> >> the snarky postmortem! What do you think felled Bionic Woman in the end? 
> >> Was it the lackluster pilot? The absence of a clear, creative vision? 
> >> Not enough Starbuck? Too much Isaiah Washington? All of the above? Sound 
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Re: [scifinoir2] News For Martha Jones Fans - Dr. Who/torchwoord

[Justin Mohareb]

On Sat, Feb 23, 2008 at 10:48 AM, Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey
L. Minor) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Something happened when Jack died and at the end of the episode you saw,
>  he was still alive.  Now he can't die.  In fact, he and Rose have met
>  him when they travel to the future.  They just do not know it is him.  I
>  can not tell you more because it is a spoiler
>


Just a bit!

As for Torchwood, they were founded in the Dr. Who episode Tooth and
Claw by Queen Victoria to protect England from extra-terrestrial
threats (i.e. the Doctor). They were mentioned in several episodes in
season 2.

Torchwood season 1 was uneven, to say the best.  Some really good
episodes and some really not so good ones.  You can Fanon a lot away
by saying "well, they're the rump/branch office of Torchwood, right?"
but thankfully season two has the team a lot more cohesive and less
dysfunctional.

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Re: [scifinoir2] News For Martha Jones Fans - Dr. Who/torchwoord

[Martin]

Not *really* a spoiler, if you're up on DW.

Justin Mohareb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:   On Sat, 
Feb 23, 2008 at 10:48 AM, Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey
 L. Minor) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
 > Something happened when Jack died and at the end of the episode you saw,
 >  he was still alive.  Now he can't die.  In fact, he and Rose have met
 >  him when they travel to the future.  They just do not know it is him.  I
 >  can not tell you more because it is a spoiler
 >
 
 Just a bit!
 
 As for Torchwood, they were founded in the Dr. Who episode Tooth and
 Claw by Queen Victoria to protect England from extra-terrestrial
 threats (i.e. the Doctor). They were mentioned in several episodes in
 season 2.
 
 Torchwood season 1 was uneven, to say the best.  Some really good
 episodes and some really not so good ones.  You can Fanon a lot away
 by saying "well, they're the rump/branch office of Torchwood, right?"
 but thankfully season two has the team a lot more cohesive and less
 dysfunctional.
 
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Re: [scifinoir2] News For Martha Jones Fans - Dr. Who/torchwoord

[Martin]

Please ignore my previous in this thread. I see now that I read out of context.

"Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
Something happened when Jack died and at the end of the episode you saw, 
he was still alive.  Now he can't die.  In fact, he and Rose have met 
him when they travel to the future.  They just do not know it is him.  I 
can not tell you more because it is a spoiler

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> What's the premise of Torchwood? I only just now caught up on the eps of Dr. 
> Who were Rose was trapped on the alternate Earth with her mom, sometimes 
> boyfriend, and alternate reality father.  I saw the first four or five eps of 
> the season with Martha, but that's it. I remember some references to 
> Torchwood in the show. But didn't Captain Jack die in Dr. Who? How is he 
> alive, what is Torchwood, and how did it come to exist in our time?
>
> -- Original message -- 
> From: Martin  
> Gymfig, the BBC is capitalizing on her unexpected popularity by split-tining 
> her between "Torchwood" and "DW". She'll be in those eps on "Torchwood", then 
> return to be the Doctor's co-companion with Catherine Tate for the rest of S4.
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> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
> In a message dated 2/22/2008 7:12:33 PM Eastern Standard Time, 
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> season of "Doctor Who," she will have an additional three-episode run on 
> the adult-themed spinoff for BBC Two and BBC America, "Torchwood."
>
> I love Torchwood. I heard about this on the sci fi channel. I am glad that 
> she is back but I am sad that she is only back for three episodes. 
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> I still don't understand what is the big deal with Capt. Jack. He does not 
> seem to be that cold leader his character is supposed to be. It is quite 
> laughable to see him be "threatening." 
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Re: [scifinoir2] More Toys Going to Movies - HELP

[Martin]

Jeez, I can't even *see* Monopoly beign done, unless it were some dreck on the 
order of "Super Mario Brothers" for kids alone. Magic; The Gathering is a  
card-based RPG. I used to play it, when it first came out. Got too 
time-intensive for me to continue.

"Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: OK 
now that I've calmed down  :)  What is the gathering and magic?   
Hasn't Clue been done?  Don't we live and breath monopoly?

Martin wrote:
> I'm going back to bed now... 8-O
>
> "Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)"  wrote: No good can come from 
> this.
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>
> Universal Teams With Hasbro
> http://www.scifi.com/scifiwire/index.php?category=0&id=48950
> Universal Pictures and Hasbro have announced a six-year strategic 
> partnership to produce at least four feature films based on some of 
> Hasbro's best-known game and toy brands, including Monopoly; Candy Land; 
> Clue; Ouija; Battleship; Magic, the Gathering; and Stretch Armstrong, 
> according to The Hollywood Reporter.
>
> Hasbro will partner exclusively with Universal for feature films, with 
> the exception of Transformers and G.I. Joe, which are already at 
> DreamWorks and Paramount.
>
> The first film emerging from the deal will be released in 2010 or 2011, 
> and Universal will release at least one film a year after that. Hasbro 
> is co-financing script development with Universal and has the option of 
> co-funding production of the films. Hasbro will retain all merchandising 
> rights to the brands, and the companies will share in consumer products 
> revenue generated by the movies.
>
> Shmuger said Universal and Hasbro still are working out which brand will 
> be the first project developed, but sources said it's likely to be 
> Monopoly or Ouija. Hasbro COO Brian Goldner said Michael Bay and his 
> Platinum Dune production company are signed on as producers for a Ouija 
> project, and David Berenbaum has signed on to write a draft of a script. 
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Re: [scifinoir2] News For Martha Jones Fans - Dr. Who/torchwoord

[Martin]

There were, but the BBC has been a bear about keeping its content intact and 
unable to be downloaded illegally. Anytime someone overseas posts anything of 
theirs, they rush over to rip it off the site.

"Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  
 No episodes online?
 
 Martin wrote:
 > Tracey, I've been told that it is, by folks watching it. I can't, because 
 > I'm a poor man.
 >
 > "Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:   
 > anyone here what Torchwood?  Scifi addict that I 
 > am, you know I have 
 >  been checking it out. So far, I think this season is better than last 
 >  season.
 >  
 >  Exclusive: 'Torchwood' Hub Means A New Martha
 >  
 >  By ALAN STANLEY BLAIR
 >  Source: SyFy Portal
 >  Feb-20-2008
 >  
 >  This story contains MODERATE SPOILERS for Season 2 of "Torchwood" and 
 >  the upcoming fourth season of "Doctor Who."
 >  
 >  Her name is Martha Jones, and last year she saved the world. But at the 
 >  end of her 13-episode stint as The Doctor’s companion, BBC bosses 
 >  announced that Freema Agyeman would be giving up her full-time role on 
 >  the series to make way for the return of Catherine Tate.
 >  
 >  The news both disheartened and elated Martha Jones fans, because 
 >  although the character will have a reduced part in the upcoming fourth 
 >  season of "Doctor Who," she will have an additional three-episode run on 
 >  the adult-themed spinoff for BBC Two and BBC America, "Torchwood."
 >  
 >  This announcement caused quite a media stir within the British press as 
 >  tabloids had already made a variety of outlandish claims about her 
 >  future with the series. However, in an exclusive interview with SyFy 
 >  Portal, Agyeman set the record straight as to why she’ll be stepping 
 >  into the Hub instead of the Tardis.
 >  
 >  "The decision was character based 100 percent," Agyeman told SyFy 
 >  Portal’s Alan Stanley Blair. "In this business, no one has to do 
 > anyone 
 >  any favors, and if they weren’t happy, I’d be completely 
 > away. The 
 >  rumors of my departure came five weeks before the press announcement on 
 >  the future of the series and it happened without any of the facts. I was 
 >  hugely pleased with the decision to go to ‘Torchwood.’ And 
 > gosh, going 
 >  back to ‘Who’ as well. There was no scandal, no ill feelings 
 > in any way. 
 >  The tabloids put two and two together and came up with five and a half."
 >  
 >  So, beginning with the sixth episode of “Torchwood,” the now 
 > fully 
 >  qualified Dr. Martha Jones will take on the weird, the wacky and the 
 >  paranormal from Cardiff Bay as part of Team Torchwood. But don’t 
 > expect 
 >  to see a darker Martha, especially since the BBC believes she’ll 
 > attract 
 >  a slightly younger audience.
 >  
 >  "They are very mindful that I’ll be going between the two shows," 
 >  Agyeman said. "We know Martha has a large youth following so we’ve 
 > been 
 >  mindful that we’re not having sex or swearing in case some of the 
 >  younger fans tune in. Even though there is a pre-watershed edit we 
 > can’t 
 >  control who will tune in."
 >  
 >  In the episode, Martha (who is now working for alien specialists UNIT 
 >  that was established in the original run of "Doctor Who") receives a 
 >  call from Capt. Jack Harkness (John Barrowman) following a string of 
 >  unexplained deaths. As a UNIT operative, she has also been looking into 
 >  the events and has more information than Torchwood does making her a 
 >  valuable asset to solving the case.
 >  
 >  "There is a really nice arc in those three episodes actually," she 
 >  said. "Jack calls Martha to give them a hand in Episode 6 and because 
 >  Martha is in UNIT now, she has a little bit more information that he 
 >  needs. And the consequences of that ends in a great cliff-hanger leading 
 >  into episode seven so it’s really like a good two-parter. By the end 
 > of 
 >  Episode 8, she’s part of the team. It is a very natural progression 
 > of 
 >  the character that I’m really pleased with.”
 >  
 >  Of course, with both shows being such different entities, how much of 
 >  the old “Doctor Who” dynamic crosses over with Martha? When 
 > Barrowman 
 >  initially returned to “Doctor Who” for its final three episodes 
 > last 
 >  season, we saw a lighter side to him than what was the norm for the 
 >  Torchwood leader. And Agyeman confirmed that the same holds true for Martha.
 >  
 >  “You take this character into a different environment and you wonder 
 > how 
 >  people take to that,” she said. “These are all new experiences 
 > for an 
 >  all-new character in a new environment. She’s harder, more qualified 
 > and 
 >  able t

Re: [scifinoir2] What's Coming Up In Genre TV?

[Martin]

I'm excited about "The Listener" in particular. "Dollhouse" hasn't moved me. 
"Fear Itself", as you said in the article, sounds DOA, unless they really do a 
bang-up job on it across the board. "Middleman"- NO. "Sanctuary" is a maybe, 
despite it having all the inroads with Skiffy. (In other words, I'm betting 
against it *because* it's a Skiffy production.) "Section 8" sounds apropos. 
"True Blood"- MORE NO.

Finally, "Wizard's First Rule" is a great novel series. Watch them find ways to 
muck it up.

"Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  
 Which ones are you guys looking forward to/?  You 
think any will 
 actually survive?/
 
 Martin wrote:
 > Left left one out. (Pun utterly intended, and welcome.)
 >
 > There's a series slated to air on A&E later this year, called "Cleaner". It 
 > stars Benjamin Bratt, once of "Law & Order", playing a guy who dies of a 
 > drug overdose after he loses his son, and is resurrected to help others beat 
 > their addictions, "by any means necessary".
 >
 > http://www.variety.com/article/VR1117980708.html?categoryid=14&cs=1
 >
 > "Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
 > By ED LEFT
 > Source: SyFy Portal
 > Feb-18-2008
 >
 > The Writers Guild of America strike has ended, and the networks are 
 > making their plans for the remainder of the season and beyond. And 
 > because of the strike, we didn't have a normal pilot season.
 >
 > Instead, the networks started ordering series directly instead of 
 > ordering a pilot, or even ordered foreign series.
 >
 > Here's a look at the new series coming to your screens in the next 
 > twelve months or so.
 >
 > "Dollhouse" will air on Fox, was created and produced by Joss Whedon, 
 > and stars Eliza Dushku. It's about men and women imprinted with 
 > different personalities and skills for different assignments, and then 
 > having those personalities wiped clean when the assignment is completed.
 >
 > When between assignments, they live like children in the Dollhouse, 
 > their dormitory/laboratory. They live with no memories of which they 
 > are, until Echo, played by Dushku, begins to remember.
 >
 > I like the concept behind this show. If it was airing on a cable 
 > network, I think we'd have a winner. However, it will be airing on Fox.
 >
 > Joss Whedon is a genre fan favorite, but let's face it, he hasn't really 
 > had a hit show. Although "Buffy the Vampire Slayer" and "Angel" had long 
 > runs, they ran on minor netlets. Neither show would have lasted on a 
 > major network. "Firefly" did air on a major network, and it was a 
 > ratings failure.
 >
 > Dushku previously starred in genre series "Tru Calling," and it also 
 > failed in the ratings. Combining Whedon, Dushku and Fox does not spell 
 > success. I think we'll only see the seven episodes contracted, if that.
 >
 > "Fear Itself," a horror anthology from NBC, promises be much like 
 > Showtime's "Masters of Horror," providing 60-minute telefilms by name 
 > horror writers and directors. Anthologies don't work on network 
 > television anymore. This one is doomed before it starts.
 >
 > "The Listener" is being produced by CTV in Canada, and has been bought 
 > by NBC to air this coming summer/fall. Paramedic Toby Logan, played by 
 > Craig Olejnik, has "the power to listen to people's most intimate thoughts."
 >
 > With the help of his friend and partner Osman Bey (Ennis Esmer), they 
 > save lives and solve mysteries. Borrowing from "Heroes," they take the 
 > most lame of abilities and build a show around it. It could work, but it 
 > would depend on the strength of the writing and the acting.
 >
 >   I don't hold out much hope.
 >
 > "Middleman" from writer-producer Javier Grillo-Marxuach of "Lost" fame, 
 > stars Natalie Morales as a struggling artist recruited by an agency to 
 > fight comic-book style villains. Matt Keeslay co-stars as Middleman, her 
 > superhero guide and mentor.
 >
 > It's on ABC Family, so expect it to be pointed at the family crowd, and 
 > it will probably have a "Kyle XY" look and feel. It seems on ABC Family, 
 > cast and chemistry is the most important aspect. If they're likeable, 
 > the show will probably stick around.
 >
 > "Sanctuary," the Web series picked up by the SciFi Channel, stars Amanda 
 > Tapping as Dr. Helen Magnus. Magnus runs the Sanctuary, which is a home 
 > to various creatures of myth and legend, who must be tracked down and 
 > protected. Dr. Will Zimmerman, played by Robin Dunne assists her in her 
 > quest.
 >
 > It's cheap to produce, and airs on SciFi. It's a match made in heaven. 
 > It also has "Stargate SG-1" connections, which will bring in a 
 > ready-made audience. This show could have legs.
 >
 > "Section 8" has been picked up by ABC for a six-episode order. The 
 > premise is a group of everyday people with "advanced neurological 
 > abnormalities" who work for a secret government agency. This sounds li

Re: [scifinoir2] News For Martha Jones Fans - Dr. Who/torchwoord

[Martin]

To paraphrase, the rumors of her departure are greatly exaggerated. She's on 
the record as saying that there's no trouble between her and Catherine Tate, 
that neither of them are being shouldered out for the other. Billie is *never* 
returning. Any reports of that are from the Billie Piper Adoration Societies. 
She's presently doing a movie, and has two series waiting to go into production.

The "No Doctor for a year" thing, unfortunately, is sorta true. Production for 
'09 is officially not happening, though there are things on the whisper-stream 
that say that the tale of the Last Great Time War will be shot as a series of 
three "Christmas Episode"-type deals, and that Paul McGann, the Doctor from the 
'99 Faux/Fixed/Fox movie, has been signed to reprise his role. This is a couple 
of months old, and no one's willing to substantiate this at this writing. I'm 
hoping for this to become real.

As for "Primeval", I've seen the talk about it, but very little, and what I do 
hear is from Brit viewers who've been with it from jump street, and I get lost 
in the flow.

"Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: So, 
Martin, what do you think is the real story?  We heard rumors that 
they are getting rid of her,  They deny them only to tell us that she is 
leaving who to visit Torchwood for three weeks and then return for four 
weeks with the new companion.  Then we hear... no doctor for a year.  
then we hear, Catherine Tate is out as the companion and that Billy 
Piper is in.

You are the Dr. Who expert here.  Can you tell me what you think 
happened? in happening? and what you think will happen. 

and while you are at it, do you know anything about Primeval? 
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0808096/

I read that is is a sort of Torchwood with Dinos.

Martin wrote:
> Gymfig, the BBC is capitalizing on her unexpected popularity by split-tining 
> her between "Torchwood" and "DW". She'll be in those eps on "Torchwood", then 
> return to be the Doctor's co-companion with Catherine Tate for the rest of S4.
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Re: [scifinoir2] McCain hopes Castro to "meet Marx soon"

[Martin]

It's not safe to have this man anywhere inside the Beltway.

"Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I 
can't believe I used to admire this guy for his indepence.  He is 
truly scary

Martin wrote:
> John McCain, USNA '58. We're so proud of him. :P
>
> "Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)"  wrote: By Jason Szep Fri Feb 
> 22, 11:34 AM ET
> http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080222/od_uk_nm/oukoe_uk_usa_politics_mccain_castro;_ylt=AmvlgDEPu9NzP1gcKIAEaHztiBIF
> INDIANAPOLIS (Reuters) - Republican presidential front-runner John 
> McCain suggested on Friday that he hoped retired Cuban leader Fidel 
> Castro would die soon and said Castro's brother will be a worse leader.
>
>
> "I hope he has the opportunity to meet Karl Marx very soon," McCain told 
> a town-hall style meeting of about 150 people, referring to communist 
> theoretician Marx who died on March 14, 1883.
>
> Castro, 81, announced on Tuesday he was stepping down as president and 
> commander-in-chief of Cuba's armed forces after 49 years in power. His 
> brother Raul Castro is expected to be named Cuba's new head of state on 
> Sunday.
>
> "Apparently he is trying to groom his brother Raul," McCain said. "Raul 
> is worse in many respects than Fidel was."
>
> Castro has not appeared in public since undergoing stomach surgery and 
> handing power temporarily to Raul in July 2006.
>
> McCain, a four-term Arizona senator, has an almost insurmountable lead 
> over his last major Republican rival, former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee.
>
> McCain's approach to Cuba has generally echoed that of U.S. President 
> George W. Bush, who has tightened a decades-long trade embargo and has 
> rejected easing sanctions without a transition to democracy.
>
> McCain, who is popular among conservative Cuban-Americans, also has said 
> that if he wins the November 4 U.S. presidential election he would keep 
> up pressure for political change in Cuba's one-party state.
>
> That includes a travel ban and trade and financial sanctions enforced a 
> few years after Castro's 1959 revolution on the Caribbean island.
>
> McCain, 71, a former prisoner of war in Vietnam, has accused Cubans of 
> participating in the torture of some of his fellow prisoners in Hanoi 
> during the Vietnam War.
>
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Re: [scifinoir2] McCain hopes Castro to "meet Marx soon"

[Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)]

I know they make jokes about his age all the time, but his speeches, 
jokes, quotes and interviews have a different, off kilter ...  wacko.  Sorry

I saw him on the daily show and a few other interview shows last summer 
and he did not sound so nutty. I did not agree with anything he said, 
but he seemed to be sane.  Now he looks frail and really sounds out 
there.  Is it possible he has dementia or is he just dementia and no 
longer afraid to let his demented side out.

Martin wrote:
> It's not safe to have this man anywhere inside the Beltway.
>
> "Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I 
> can't believe I used to admire this guy for his indepence.  He is 
> truly scary
>
> Martin wrote:
>   
>> John McCain, USNA '58. We're so proud of him. :P
>>
>> "Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)"  wrote: By Jason Szep Fri 
>> Feb 22, 11:34 AM ET
>> http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080222/od_uk_nm/oukoe_uk_usa_politics_mccain_castro;_ylt=AmvlgDEPu9NzP1gcKIAEaHztiBIF
>> INDIANAPOLIS (Reuters) - Republican presidential front-runner John 
>> McCain suggested on Friday that he hoped retired Cuban leader Fidel 
>> Castro would die soon and said Castro's brother will be a worse leader.
>>
>>
>> "I hope he has the opportunity to meet Karl Marx very soon," McCain told 
>> a town-hall style meeting of about 150 people, referring to communist 
>> theoretician Marx who died on March 14, 1883.
>>
>> Castro, 81, announced on Tuesday he was stepping down as president and 
>> commander-in-chief of Cuba's armed forces after 49 years in power. His 
>> brother Raul Castro is expected to be named Cuba's new head of state on 
>> Sunday.
>>
>> "Apparently he is trying to groom his brother Raul," McCain said. "Raul 
>> is worse in many respects than Fidel was."
>>
>> Castro has not appeared in public since undergoing stomach surgery and 
>> handing power temporarily to Raul in July 2006.
>>
>> McCain, a four-term Arizona senator, has an almost insurmountable lead 
>> over his last major Republican rival, former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee.
>>
>> McCain's approach to Cuba has generally echoed that of U.S. President 
>> George W. Bush, who has tightened a decades-long trade embargo and has 
>> rejected easing sanctions without a transition to democracy.
>>
>> McCain, who is popular among conservative Cuban-Americans, also has said 
>> that if he wins the November 4 U.S. presidential election he would keep 
>> up pressure for political change in Cuba's one-party state.
>>
>> That includes a travel ban and trade and financial sanctions enforced a 
>> few years after Castro's 1959 revolution on the Caribbean island.
>>
>> McCain, 71, a former prisoner of war in Vietnam, has accused Cubans of 
>> participating in the torture of some of his fellow prisoners in Hanoi 
>> during the Vietnam War.
>>
>> (To read more about the U.S. political campaign, visit Reuters "Tales 
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(Includes eps of Star Trek and The Twilight Zone)

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Re: [scifinoir2] Bad Movies Conferssion Time Re: Jumper - SPOILER ALERT!!!!!!

[Astromancer]

I would join in, but you've all heard the Star Crash story...Can't get any 
worse than that...

Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  Okay, I'm in...

"Crossworlds", starring a pre-"Sports Night" Josh Charles, who plays an aimless 
college student who gets picked up at a party by a hot blonde in a mini-skirt. 
(That was the first clue for me.)

Said blonde turns out to be a warrior from another dimension, who's after our 
hero because of a necklace he has, the last thing he has to remember his dead 
father by. 

Said necklace is actually a talisman that can, if wielded properly, allow the 
user to shape the Cosmos to his or her fancy, travel dimensions at will and 
other fun stuff. 

The blonde takes our hero to her mentor, played by Rutger Hauer, whom we're 
*supposed* to see as a famed and nigh-invincible warrior. (I might've bought 
it, if not for the fact that I was in better shape than he was, one lung and 
all.)

Anyhoo, the adventure just speeds- uh, *meanders* along to its utterly 
predictable climax. Watchign it, I was grateful for both the ending and the 
fact that I only paid six bucks for the video.

tdemorsella <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: So gang. It seems like it is a given 
that some us go to or rent
movies we pretty much knoware going to be bad. So lets make it a
confession time and open up about other bad flicks we saw knowing they
were going to to be bad. 

I have to think on it, but most recently, I saw Wild Hogs. Don't kick
me off the list, but I thought the first half was hilarious. I
watched a really bad one star movie, Cyber Wars also known as Avatar
or Matrix Hunter. It starred Joseph Lau, David Warner (Jack the
Ripper, Hog Father), and Joan Chen (twin Peaks) The Plot: In the near
future in the Asian city-state Sintawan, everyone's identity is
recorded in the vast CyberLink. The only way around this is using
illegal simulated identity implants (sims). A young bounty hunter who
makes her living tracking sims, finds herself the unlikely ally of a
police detective who suspects the CyberLink is being perverted for an
insidious and deadly purpose

Okay, your turn

tracey

--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Give 'em time, Tracey.
> 
> "Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I saw it. It definitely was not theater
worthy, but I think it would be 
> a great TV show. I love the teleportation concept and some of the 
> mythology and laws were good too. Unfortunately, it came across
like a 
> pilot movie for a scifi tv show. To mad it is not a tv series
> 
> ravenadal wrote:
> > To me, teleportation has always been the coolest of all
superpowers. 
> > Couple it with a "proximity sense," keen hearing (so you can hear 
> > when a shot is fired and teleport an instant before it gets there), 
> > or just plain "common sense" and you have one heck of a skill set!
> >
> > ~rave!
> >
> > --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, "DJ VIBE"  wrote:
> > 
> >> 
> >> 
> >>> On Feb 15, 2008 6:31 PM, ravenadal  wrote:
> >>> >
> >>> 
> >>> > There is a scene in the new Jumper movie (no, I have not seen 
> >>> 
> >> it)
> >> 
> >>> >
> >>> > SPOILER
> >>> > 
> >>> 
> > ALERT!!
> > 
> >>> >
> >>> > where the hero is watching the aftermath of the Hurricane 
> >>> 
> >> Karina on
> >> 
> >>> > his television. He gets dressed and teleports...to London, 
> >>> 
> >> where he
> >> 
> >>> > has a date. So much for great responsibility coming with 
> >>> 
> > great 
> > 
> >> power!
> >> 
> >>> >
> >>> 
> >> It was right in keeping with how his character was established in 
> >> the movie, although for a moment there I thought he might think of 
> >> using his abilities for good. 
> >>
> >> Overall, I found the movie pretty good, with one exception. How 
> >> 
> > the 
> > 
> >> hell did the Paladins continually catch jumpers? Its one thing if 
> >> you get the drop on one, but if you're standing in FRONT of one who 
> >> is fresh and the jumper sees you and you try to get him with your 
> >> stun-wand, how are you gonna get him? In less than three minutes, 
> >> my wife and I came up with several ways to use a teleportation 
> >> 
> > power 
> > 
> >> offesinvely (i.e. teleport in a circle around your opponent a la 
> >> Nightcrawer. et. al) and in all of those cases we came up with, no 
> >> normal human would have a chance against a jumper.
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[Bosco Bosco]

I blog on My Space. I generally just do it to mark little places that
interest me in my life. Today was a little different and I wanted to
share with the class

A Man Of Influence 
Current mood:  sad 


In the early 1980's my Mother was in graduate school getting a
Doctorate in English. When she graduated, she took a job at a small
college in Durant, Ok and I spent my last year of high school there. 

After dropping out, I got a GED, failed my first semester of college,
joined the army, got discharged from the Army after basic, and
basically kind of lived aimlessly for a couple of years. In the mid
80's, I returned to Durant to make another run at college. I enrolled
in a course taught by one of my mother's friendliest colleagues. On
the first day of class, Dennis Letts walked into the room, and
slammed a gigantic stack of books on the desk. With a pointed and
wagging finger and a voice focused in an even a more pointed half
growling tone, he pronounced to the class, "Everything you know is
wrong!"  It was the most dramatic entrance by a teacher I have ever
observed. Dennis spent the rest of the semester showing us that he
was right. 

I have known quite a few good teachers in my life. I remember great
lessons, great lectures, great insights and great inspirations that
have been offered me by those teachers. Not one among them had more
impact or influence on me than Dennis Letts. The memory of that first
day of my first class with Dennis has lived in my mind, brilliant and
cherished, for more than two decades. 

I was raised almost from birth to think critically and to examine
thoughts and ideas. From Dennis, I learned why questioning my own
opinions and beliefs to determine their value was important. He
showed me again and again that until my opinions and beliefs have the
weight of well measured reason behind them, they are by nature
valueless because they are purposeless.  

Dennis Letts also recognized in me a talent for writing of which I
was completely unaware. His encouragment and initial direction
provided me with a tool that has given me more self confidence and
strength than he was probably ever aware. Singularly, writing has
served me well over the years in defining thoughts and feelings.
Through writing I find a uniquely satisfying way to navigate the
world when I find it overwhelming, absurd or hilarious. I would never
have found the way without Dennis Letts.

I think back now over my experiences with Dennis and I am amazed at
the way one person's influence continues to resonate through me even
though it has been literally years upon years since I have seen or
spoken to him.

A couple of months back my Mom reported to me that Dennis was very
very ill. and his time was short. In typical Dennis fashion he spent
the last bit of his time among the living working creatively. He had
started an acting career in the 80's and had pursued it with
determination. I counted 46 different credits under his name on the
Internet Movie Database. Not too shabby for a guy who began his
professional acting career in the middle of his life. I am told he
had dreamed for many years of appearing on Broadway. This year a play
called August Osage County, written by his son Tracy Letts, debuted
there and Dennis Letts achieved that dream. It opened to critical
acclaim and praise. I literally danced when I heard the news of how
well they had done.

Over many years now past, I have kept up with Dennis primarily
through my mother. We've been seperated by time and geography but
that has not kept kept me from gleefully enjoying tales of his
exploits and achievements and giggling at the tales of his silliness.
I was glad to know that he had remained true to his passions and his
art and that he had lived the life he wanted.

This morning I got an email from my mother that Dennis had passed on.
Thoughts of him have flooded my mind. In between tears and chuckles,
I remember a man who has gifted me with more than he probably ever
knew. I remember a man who's influence has permeated me to my core. I
can say readily and easily that I am the person I am today in no
small measure because of Dennis. I will always remember him as the
man who taught me why to be right and when to be wrong. I don't know
if he understood that he was not only gifted teacher, but great
teacher. I hope he knew and I will always remember him as such.

Farewell, Dennis Letts. Your time here was appreciated and I will
always be grateful for your presence in my life.


I got friends who are in prison and Friends who are dead.
I'm gonna tell ya something that I've often said.

You know these things that happen,
That's just the way it's supposed to be.
And I can't help but wonder,
Don't ya know it coulda been me.


  

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Re: [scifinoir2] Bad Movies Conferssion Time Re: Jumper - SPOILER ALERT!!!!!!

[Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)]

a...flashback..  OK.  good enough. 

Astromancer wrote:
> I would join in, but you've all heard the Star Crash story...Can't get any 
> worse than that...
>
> Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  Okay, I'm in...
>
> "Crossworlds", starring a pre-"Sports Night" Josh Charles, who plays an 
> aimless college student who gets picked up at a party by a hot blonde in a 
> mini-skirt. (That was the first clue for me.)
>
> Said blonde turns out to be a warrior from another dimension, who's after our 
> hero because of a necklace he has, the last thing he has to remember his dead 
> father by. 
>
> Said necklace is actually a talisman that can, if wielded properly, allow the 
> user to shape the Cosmos to his or her fancy, travel dimensions at will and 
> other fun stuff. 
>
> The blonde takes our hero to her mentor, played by Rutger Hauer, whom we're 
> *supposed* to see as a famed and nigh-invincible warrior. (I might've bought 
> it, if not for the fact that I was in better shape than he was, one lung and 
> all.)
>
> Anyhoo, the adventure just speeds- uh, *meanders* along to its utterly 
> predictable climax. Watchign it, I was grateful for both the ending and the 
> fact that I only paid six bucks for the video.
>
> tdemorsella <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: So gang. It seems like it is a given 
> that some us go to or rent
> movies we pretty much knoware going to be bad. So lets make it a
> confession time and open up about other bad flicks we saw knowing they
> were going to to be bad. 
>
> I have to think on it, but most recently, I saw Wild Hogs. Don't kick
> me off the list, but I thought the first half was hilarious. I
> watched a really bad one star movie, Cyber Wars also known as Avatar
> or Matrix Hunter. It starred Joseph Lau, David Warner (Jack the
> Ripper, Hog Father), and Joan Chen (twin Peaks) The Plot: In the near
> future in the Asian city-state Sintawan, everyone's identity is
> recorded in the vast CyberLink. The only way around this is using
> illegal simulated identity implants (sims). A young bounty hunter who
> makes her living tracking sims, finds herself the unlikely ally of a
> police detective who suspects the CyberLink is being perverted for an
> insidious and deadly purpose
>
> Okay, your turn
>
> tracey
>
> --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>   
>> Give 'em time, Tracey.
>>
>> "Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> 
> I saw it. It definitely was not theater
> worthy, but I think it would be 
>   
>> a great TV show. I love the teleportation concept and some of the 
>> mythology and laws were good too. Unfortunately, it came across
>> 
> like a 
>   
>> pilot movie for a scifi tv show. To mad it is not a tv series
>>
>> ravenadal wrote:
>> 
>>> To me, teleportation has always been the coolest of all
>>>   
> superpowers. 
>   
>>> Couple it with a "proximity sense," keen hearing (so you can hear 
>>> when a shot is fired and teleport an instant before it gets there), 
>>> or just plain "common sense" and you have one heck of a skill set!
>>>
>>> ~rave!
>>>
>>> --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, "DJ VIBE"  wrote:
>>>
>>>   
 
> On Feb 15, 2008 6:31 PM, ravenadal  wrote:
>   
>> There is a scene in the new Jumper movie (no, I have not seen 
>> 
 it)

 
>> SPOILER
>>
>> 
>>> ALERT!!
>>>
>>>   
>> where the hero is watching the aftermath of the Hurricane 
>> 
 Karina on

 
>> his television. He gets dressed and teleports...to London, 
>> 
 where he

 
>> has a date. So much for great responsibility coming with 
>> 
>>> great 
>>>
>>>   
 power!

 
 It was right in keeping with how his character was established in 
 the movie, although for a moment there I thought he might think of 
 using his abilities for good. 

 Overall, I found the movie pretty good, with one exception. How 

 
>>> the 
>>>
>>>   
 hell did the Paladins continually catch jumpers? Its one thing if 
 you get the drop on one, but if you're standing in FRONT of one who 
 is fresh and the jumper sees you and you try to get him with your 
 stun-wand, how are you gonna get him? In less than three minutes, 
 my wife and I came up with several ways to use a teleportation 

 
>>> power 
>>>
>>>   
 offesinvely (i.e. teleport in a circle around your opponent a la 
 Nightcrawer. et. al) and in all of those cases we came up with, no 
 normal human would have a chance against a jumper.


 
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Yahoo! Groups Links
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>   
>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "There is no r

Re: [scifinoir2] Blog

[Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)]

You essay made me wish he had been one of my professors.  I hope your 
sent this to your mom so she can share this with his family.  It is a 
beautiful tribute.  In the meantime, can we have the link to your my 
space site?

Might I suggest you go rent something he was in?  When somebody I got to 
know during my brief acting/music career stint died, I went out and 
rented a movie he had a part in.  When I miss find my self reminiscing 
about  the old days going on casting calls with my cousin, I check out 
Trading Places.  She was only in it for five minutes - probably less, 
but its my way of having her back for a while.

Tracey

Bosco Bosco wrote:
> I blog on My Space. I generally just do it to mark little places that
> interest me in my life. Today was a little different and I wanted to
> share with the class
>
> A Man Of Influence 
> Current mood:  sad 
>
>
> In the early 1980's my Mother was in graduate school getting a
> Doctorate in English. When she graduated, she took a job at a small
> college in Durant, Ok and I spent my last year of high school there. 
>
> After dropping out, I got a GED, failed my first semester of college,
> joined the army, got discharged from the Army after basic, and
> basically kind of lived aimlessly for a couple of years. In the mid
> 80's, I returned to Durant to make another run at college. I enrolled
> in a course taught by one of my mother's friendliest colleagues. On
> the first day of class, Dennis Letts walked into the room, and
> slammed a gigantic stack of books on the desk. With a pointed and
> wagging finger and a voice focused in an even a more pointed half
> growling tone, he pronounced to the class, "Everything you know is
> wrong!"  It was the most dramatic entrance by a teacher I have ever
> observed. Dennis spent the rest of the semester showing us that he
> was right. 
>
> I have known quite a few good teachers in my life. I remember great
> lessons, great lectures, great insights and great inspirations that
> have been offered me by those teachers. Not one among them had more
> impact or influence on me than Dennis Letts. The memory of that first
> day of my first class with Dennis has lived in my mind, brilliant and
> cherished, for more than two decades. 
>
> I was raised almost from birth to think critically and to examine
> thoughts and ideas. From Dennis, I learned why questioning my own
> opinions and beliefs to determine their value was important. He
> showed me again and again that until my opinions and beliefs have the
> weight of well measured reason behind them, they are by nature
> valueless because they are purposeless.  
>
> Dennis Letts also recognized in me a talent for writing of which I
> was completely unaware. His encouragment and initial direction
> provided me with a tool that has given me more self confidence and
> strength than he was probably ever aware. Singularly, writing has
> served me well over the years in defining thoughts and feelings.
> Through writing I find a uniquely satisfying way to navigate the
> world when I find it overwhelming, absurd or hilarious. I would never
> have found the way without Dennis Letts.
>
> I think back now over my experiences with Dennis and I am amazed at
> the way one person's influence continues to resonate through me even
> though it has been literally years upon years since I have seen or
> spoken to him.
>
> A couple of months back my Mom reported to me that Dennis was very
> very ill. and his time was short. In typical Dennis fashion he spent
> the last bit of his time among the living working creatively. He had
> started an acting career in the 80's and had pursued it with
> determination. I counted 46 different credits under his name on the
> Internet Movie Database. Not too shabby for a guy who began his
> professional acting career in the middle of his life. I am told he
> had dreamed for many years of appearing on Broadway. This year a play
> called August Osage County, written by his son Tracy Letts, debuted
> there and Dennis Letts achieved that dream. It opened to critical
> acclaim and praise. I literally danced when I heard the news of how
> well they had done.
>
> Over many years now past, I have kept up with Dennis primarily
> through my mother. We've been seperated by time and geography but
> that has not kept kept me from gleefully enjoying tales of his
> exploits and achievements and giggling at the tales of his silliness.
> I was glad to know that he had remained true to his passions and his
> art and that he had lived the life he wanted.
>
> This morning I got an email from my mother that Dennis had passed on.
> Thoughts of him have flooded my mind. In between tears and chuckles,
> I remember a man who has gifted me with more than he probably ever
> knew. I remember a man who's influence has permeated me to my core. I
> can say readily and easily that I am the person I am today in no
> small measure because of Dennis. I will always remember him as the
> man who taugh

Re: [scifinoir2] Blog

[Bosco Bosco]

Thanks, I did send it to my Mom and some mutual friends.

You can find me at

http://www.myspace.com/boscoworld

B
--- "Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> You essay made me wish he had been one of my professors.  I hope
> your 
> sent this to your mom so she can share this with his family.  It is
> a 
> beautiful tribute.  In the meantime, can we have the link to your
> my 
> space site?
> 
> Might I suggest you go rent something he was in?  When somebody I
> got to 
> know during my brief acting/music career stint died, I went out and
> 
> rented a movie he had a part in.  When I miss find my self
> reminiscing 
> about  the old days going on casting calls with my cousin, I check
> out 
> Trading Places.  She was only in it for five minutes - probably
> less, 
> but its my way of having her back for a while.
> 
> Tracey
> 
> Bosco Bosco wrote:
> > I blog on My Space. I generally just do it to mark little places
> that
> > interest me in my life. Today was a little different and I wanted
> to
> > share with the class
> >
> > A Man Of Influence 
> > Current mood:  sad 
> >
> >
> > In the early 1980's my Mother was in graduate school getting a
> > Doctorate in English. When she graduated, she took a job at a
> small
> > college in Durant, Ok and I spent my last year of high school
> there. 
> >
> > After dropping out, I got a GED, failed my first semester of
> college,
> > joined the army, got discharged from the Army after basic, and
> > basically kind of lived aimlessly for a couple of years. In the
> mid
> > 80's, I returned to Durant to make another run at college. I
> enrolled
> > in a course taught by one of my mother's friendliest colleagues.
> On
> > the first day of class, Dennis Letts walked into the room, and
> > slammed a gigantic stack of books on the desk. With a pointed and
> > wagging finger and a voice focused in an even a more pointed half
> > growling tone, he pronounced to the class, "Everything you know
> is
> > wrong!"  It was the most dramatic entrance by a teacher I have
> ever
> > observed. Dennis spent the rest of the semester showing us that
> he
> > was right. 
> >
> > I have known quite a few good teachers in my life. I remember
> great
> > lessons, great lectures, great insights and great inspirations
> that
> > have been offered me by those teachers. Not one among them had
> more
> > impact or influence on me than Dennis Letts. The memory of that
> first
> > day of my first class with Dennis has lived in my mind, brilliant
> and
> > cherished, for more than two decades. 
> >
> > I was raised almost from birth to think critically and to examine
> > thoughts and ideas. From Dennis, I learned why questioning my own
> > opinions and beliefs to determine their value was important. He
> > showed me again and again that until my opinions and beliefs have
> the
> > weight of well measured reason behind them, they are by nature
> > valueless because they are purposeless.  
> >
> > Dennis Letts also recognized in me a talent for writing of which
> I
> > was completely unaware. His encouragment and initial direction
> > provided me with a tool that has given me more self confidence
> and
> > strength than he was probably ever aware. Singularly, writing has
> > served me well over the years in defining thoughts and feelings.
> > Through writing I find a uniquely satisfying way to navigate the
> > world when I find it overwhelming, absurd or hilarious. I would
> never
> > have found the way without Dennis Letts.
> >
> > I think back now over my experiences with Dennis and I am amazed
> at
> > the way one person's influence continues to resonate through me
> even
> > though it has been literally years upon years since I have seen
> or
> > spoken to him.
> >
> > A couple of months back my Mom reported to me that Dennis was
> very
> > very ill. and his time was short. In typical Dennis fashion he
> spent
> > the last bit of his time among the living working creatively. He
> had
> > started an acting career in the 80's and had pursued it with
> > determination. I counted 46 different credits under his name on
> the
> > Internet Movie Database. Not too shabby for a guy who began his
> > professional acting career in the middle of his life. I am told
> he
> > had dreamed for many years of appearing on Broadway. This year a
> play
> > called August Osage County, written by his son Tracy Letts,
> debuted
> > there and Dennis Letts achieved that dream. It opened to critical
> > acclaim and praise. I literally danced when I heard the news of
> how
> > well they had done.
> >
> > Over many years now past, I have kept up with Dennis primarily
> > through my mother. We've been seperated by time and geography but
> > that has not kept kept me from gleefully enjoying tales of his
> > exploits and achievements and giggling at the tales of his
> silliness.
> > I was glad to know that he had remained true to his passions and
> his
> > art and that he had lived the li

Re: [scifinoir2] Blog

[Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)]

so what aare you going to watch, Blood Suckers from Outer Space 
 , Passenger 57 
 , Cast Away 
, or something else?

Bosco Bosco wrote:
> Thanks, I did send it to my Mom and some mutual friends.
>
> You can find me at
>
> http://www.myspace.com/boscoworld
>
> B
> --- "Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>   
>> You essay made me wish he had been one of my professors.  I hope
>> your 
>> sent this to your mom so she can share this with his family.  It is
>> a 
>> beautiful tribute.  In the meantime, can we have the link to your
>> my 
>> space site?
>>
>> Might I suggest you go rent something he was in?  When somebody I
>> got to 
>> know during my brief acting/music career stint died, I went out and
>>
>> rented a movie he had a part in.  When I miss find my self
>> reminiscing 
>> about  the old days going on casting calls with my cousin, I check
>> out 
>> Trading Places.  She was only in it for five minutes - probably
>> less, 
>> but its my way of having her back for a while.
>>
>> Tracey
>>
>> Bosco Bosco wrote:
>> 
>>> I blog on My Space. I generally just do it to mark little places
>>>   
>> that
>> 
>>> interest me in my life. Today was a little different and I wanted
>>>   
>> to
>> 
>>> share with the class
>>>
>>> A Man Of Influence 
>>> Current mood:  sad 
>>>
>>>
>>> In the early 1980's my Mother was in graduate school getting a
>>> Doctorate in English. When she graduated, she took a job at a
>>>   
>> small
>> 
>>> college in Durant, Ok and I spent my last year of high school
>>>   
>> there. 
>> 
>>> After dropping out, I got a GED, failed my first semester of
>>>   
>> college,
>> 
>>> joined the army, got discharged from the Army after basic, and
>>> basically kind of lived aimlessly for a couple of years. In the
>>>   
>> mid
>> 
>>> 80's, I returned to Durant to make another run at college. I
>>>   
>> enrolled
>> 
>>> in a course taught by one of my mother's friendliest colleagues.
>>>   
>> On
>> 
>>> the first day of class, Dennis Letts walked into the room, and
>>> slammed a gigantic stack of books on the desk. With a pointed and
>>> wagging finger and a voice focused in an even a more pointed half
>>> growling tone, he pronounced to the class, "Everything you know
>>>   
>> is
>> 
>>> wrong!"  It was the most dramatic entrance by a teacher I have
>>>   
>> ever
>> 
>>> observed. Dennis spent the rest of the semester showing us that
>>>   
>> he
>> 
>>> was right. 
>>>
>>> I have known quite a few good teachers in my life. I remember
>>>   
>> great
>> 
>>> lessons, great lectures, great insights and great inspirations
>>>   
>> that
>> 
>>> have been offered me by those teachers. Not one among them had
>>>   
>> more
>> 
>>> impact or influence on me than Dennis Letts. The memory of that
>>>   
>> first
>> 
>>> day of my first class with Dennis has lived in my mind, brilliant
>>>   
>> and
>> 
>>> cherished, for more than two decades. 
>>>
>>> I was raised almost from birth to think critically and to examine
>>> thoughts and ideas. From Dennis, I learned why questioning my own
>>> opinions and beliefs to determine their value was important. He
>>> showed me again and again that until my opinions and beliefs have
>>>   
>> the
>> 
>>> weight of well measured reason behind them, they are by nature
>>> valueless because they are purposeless.  
>>>
>>> Dennis Letts also recognized in me a talent for writing of which
>>>   
>> I
>> 
>>> was completely unaware. His encouragment and initial direction
>>> provided me with a tool that has given me more self confidence
>>>   
>> and
>> 
>>> strength than he was probably ever aware. Singularly, writing has
>>> served me well over the years in defining thoughts and feelings.
>>> Through writing I find a uniquely satisfying way to navigate the
>>> world when I find it overwhelming, absurd or hilarious. I would
>>>   
>> never
>> 
>>> have found the way without Dennis Letts.
>>>
>>> I think back now over my experiences with Dennis and I am amazed
>>>   
>> at
>> 
>>> the way one person's influence continues to resonate through me
>>>   
>> even
>> 
>>> though it has been literally years upon years since I have seen
>>>   
>> or
>> 
>>> spoken to him.
>>>
>>> A couple of months back my Mom reported to me that Dennis was
>>>   
>> very
>> 
>>> very ill. and his time was short. In typical Dennis fashion he
>>>   
>> spent
>> 
>>> the last bit of his time among the living working creatively. He
>>>   
>> had
>> 
>>> started an acting career in the 80's and had pursued it with
>>> determination. I counted 46 different credits under his name on
>>>   
>> the
>> 
>>> Internet Movie 

Re: [scifinoir2] Blog

[Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)]

He is on TNT and Oxygen today with Fire Down Below and Where The Heart Is

Bosco Bosco wrote:
> Thanks, I did send it to my Mom and some mutual friends.
>
> You can find me at
>
> http://www.myspace.com/boscoworld
>
> B
> --- "Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>   
>> You essay made me wish he had been one of my professors.  I hope
>> your 
>> sent this to your mom so she can share this with his family.  It is
>> a 
>> beautiful tribute.  In the meantime, can we have the link to your
>> my 
>> space site?
>>
>> Might I suggest you go rent something he was in?  When somebody I
>> got to 
>> know during my brief acting/music career stint died, I went out and
>>
>> rented a movie he had a part in.  When I miss find my self
>> reminiscing 
>> about  the old days going on casting calls with my cousin, I check
>> out 
>> Trading Places.  She was only in it for five minutes - probably
>> less, 
>> but its my way of having her back for a while.
>>
>> Tracey
>>
>> Bosco Bosco wrote:
>> 
>>> I blog on My Space. I generally just do it to mark little places
>>>   
>> that
>> 
>>> interest me in my life. Today was a little different and I wanted
>>>   
>> to
>> 
>>> share with the class
>>>
>>> A Man Of Influence 
>>> Current mood:  sad 
>>>
>>>
>>> In the early 1980's my Mother was in graduate school getting a
>>> Doctorate in English. When she graduated, she took a job at a
>>>   
>> small
>> 
>>> college in Durant, Ok and I spent my last year of high school
>>>   
>> there. 
>> 
>>> After dropping out, I got a GED, failed my first semester of
>>>   
>> college,
>> 
>>> joined the army, got discharged from the Army after basic, and
>>> basically kind of lived aimlessly for a couple of years. In the
>>>   
>> mid
>> 
>>> 80's, I returned to Durant to make another run at college. I
>>>   
>> enrolled
>> 
>>> in a course taught by one of my mother's friendliest colleagues.
>>>   
>> On
>> 
>>> the first day of class, Dennis Letts walked into the room, and
>>> slammed a gigantic stack of books on the desk. With a pointed and
>>> wagging finger and a voice focused in an even a more pointed half
>>> growling tone, he pronounced to the class, "Everything you know
>>>   
>> is
>> 
>>> wrong!"  It was the most dramatic entrance by a teacher I have
>>>   
>> ever
>> 
>>> observed. Dennis spent the rest of the semester showing us that
>>>   
>> he
>> 
>>> was right. 
>>>
>>> I have known quite a few good teachers in my life. I remember
>>>   
>> great
>> 
>>> lessons, great lectures, great insights and great inspirations
>>>   
>> that
>> 
>>> have been offered me by those teachers. Not one among them had
>>>   
>> more
>> 
>>> impact or influence on me than Dennis Letts. The memory of that
>>>   
>> first
>> 
>>> day of my first class with Dennis has lived in my mind, brilliant
>>>   
>> and
>> 
>>> cherished, for more than two decades. 
>>>
>>> I was raised almost from birth to think critically and to examine
>>> thoughts and ideas. From Dennis, I learned why questioning my own
>>> opinions and beliefs to determine their value was important. He
>>> showed me again and again that until my opinions and beliefs have
>>>   
>> the
>> 
>>> weight of well measured reason behind them, they are by nature
>>> valueless because they are purposeless.  
>>>
>>> Dennis Letts also recognized in me a talent for writing of which
>>>   
>> I
>> 
>>> was completely unaware. His encouragment and initial direction
>>> provided me with a tool that has given me more self confidence
>>>   
>> and
>> 
>>> strength than he was probably ever aware. Singularly, writing has
>>> served me well over the years in defining thoughts and feelings.
>>> Through writing I find a uniquely satisfying way to navigate the
>>> world when I find it overwhelming, absurd or hilarious. I would
>>>   
>> never
>> 
>>> have found the way without Dennis Letts.
>>>
>>> I think back now over my experiences with Dennis and I am amazed
>>>   
>> at
>> 
>>> the way one person's influence continues to resonate through me
>>>   
>> even
>> 
>>> though it has been literally years upon years since I have seen
>>>   
>> or
>> 
>>> spoken to him.
>>>
>>> A couple of months back my Mom reported to me that Dennis was
>>>   
>> very
>> 
>>> very ill. and his time was short. In typical Dennis fashion he
>>>   
>> spent
>> 
>>> the last bit of his time among the living working creatively. He
>>>   
>> had
>> 
>>> started an acting career in the 80's and had pursued it with
>>> determination. I counted 46 different credits under his name on
>>>   
>> the
>> 
>>> Internet Movie Database. Not too shabby for a guy who began his
>>> professional acting career in the middle of his life. I am told
>>>   
>> he
>> 
>>> had dreamed

Re: [scifinoir2] Blog

[Bosco Bosco]

His Wife wrote the Novel "Where The Heart Is." The movie is based on
the book. Oprah made the book one of her book club picks. They're a
talented Family. I'm gonna hang with my oldest son tonight so a movie
may not be on the agenda. I've seen them all. I'll probably just
dwell on my good memories


--- "Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> He is on TNT and Oxygen today with Fire Down Below and Where The
> Heart Is
> 
> Bosco Bosco wrote:
> > Thanks, I did send it to my Mom and some mutual friends.
> >
> > You can find me at
> >
> > http://www.myspace.com/boscoworld
> >
> > B
> > --- "Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)"
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >   
> >> You essay made me wish he had been one of my professors.  I hope
> >> your 
> >> sent this to your mom so she can share this with his family.  It
> is
> >> a 
> >> beautiful tribute.  In the meantime, can we have the link to
> your
> >> my 
> >> space site?
> >>
> >> Might I suggest you go rent something he was in?  When somebody
> I
> >> got to 
> >> know during my brief acting/music career stint died, I went out
> and
> >>
> >> rented a movie he had a part in.  When I miss find my self
> >> reminiscing 
> >> about  the old days going on casting calls with my cousin, I
> check
> >> out 
> >> Trading Places.  She was only in it for five minutes - probably
> >> less, 
> >> but its my way of having her back for a while.
> >>
> >> Tracey
> >>
> >> Bosco Bosco wrote:
> >> 
> >>> I blog on My Space. I generally just do it to mark little
> places
> >>>   
> >> that
> >> 
> >>> interest me in my life. Today was a little different and I
> wanted
> >>>   
> >> to
> >> 
> >>> share with the class
> >>>
> >>> A Man Of Influence 
> >>> Current mood:  sad 
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> In the early 1980's my Mother was in graduate school getting a
> >>> Doctorate in English. When she graduated, she took a job at a
> >>>   
> >> small
> >> 
> >>> college in Durant, Ok and I spent my last year of high school
> >>>   
> >> there. 
> >> 
> >>> After dropping out, I got a GED, failed my first semester of
> >>>   
> >> college,
> >> 
> >>> joined the army, got discharged from the Army after basic, and
> >>> basically kind of lived aimlessly for a couple of years. In the
> >>>   
> >> mid
> >> 
> >>> 80's, I returned to Durant to make another run at college. I
> >>>   
> >> enrolled
> >> 
> >>> in a course taught by one of my mother's friendliest
> colleagues.
> >>>   
> >> On
> >> 
> >>> the first day of class, Dennis Letts walked into the room, and
> >>> slammed a gigantic stack of books on the desk. With a pointed
> and
> >>> wagging finger and a voice focused in an even a more pointed
> half
> >>> growling tone, he pronounced to the class, "Everything you know
> >>>   
> >> is
> >> 
> >>> wrong!"  It was the most dramatic entrance by a teacher I have
> >>>   
> >> ever
> >> 
> >>> observed. Dennis spent the rest of the semester showing us that
> >>>   
> >> he
> >> 
> >>> was right. 
> >>>
> >>> I have known quite a few good teachers in my life. I remember
> >>>   
> >> great
> >> 
> >>> lessons, great lectures, great insights and great inspirations
> >>>   
> >> that
> >> 
> >>> have been offered me by those teachers. Not one among them had
> >>>   
> >> more
> >> 
> >>> impact or influence on me than Dennis Letts. The memory of that
> >>>   
> >> first
> >> 
> >>> day of my first class with Dennis has lived in my mind,
> brilliant
> >>>   
> >> and
> >> 
> >>> cherished, for more than two decades. 
> >>>
> >>> I was raised almost from birth to think critically and to
> examine
> >>> thoughts and ideas. From Dennis, I learned why questioning my
> own
> >>> opinions and beliefs to determine their value was important. He
> >>> showed me again and again that until my opinions and beliefs
> have
> >>>   
> >> the
> >> 
> >>> weight of well measured reason behind them, they are by nature
> >>> valueless because they are purposeless.  
> >>>
> >>> Dennis Letts also recognized in me a talent for writing of
> which
> >>>   
> >> I
> >> 
> >>> was completely unaware. His encouragment and initial direction
> >>> provided me with a tool that has given me more self confidence
> >>>   
> >> and
> >> 
> >>> strength than he was probably ever aware. Singularly, writing
> has
> >>> served me well over the years in defining thoughts and
> feelings.
> >>> Through writing I find a uniquely satisfying way to navigate
> the
> >>> world when I find it overwhelming, absurd or hilarious. I would
> >>>   
> >> never
> >> 
> >>> have found the way without Dennis Letts.
> >>>
> >>> I think back now over my experiences with Dennis and I am
> amazed
> >>>   
> >> at
> >> 
> >>> the way one person's influence continues to resonate through me
> >>>   
> >> even
> >> 
> >>> th

[scifinoir2] Hubble peers into the Great Eye of Sauron

[ravenadal]

Follow link...the photo is quite striking.

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/02/22/fomalhaut_image/

Spectacular dust ring surrounds 'whale's mouth' star

By Lester Haines 

Published Friday 22nd February 2008 17:21 GMT

Astronomers at the University of California, Berkeley, and NASA's
Goddard Space Flight Center have released a rather remarkable Hubble
image of a ring of dust around star Fomalhaut, described by New
Scientist as resembling "the Great Eye of Sauron".

Hubble snap of Fomalhaut. Image: NASA

The boffins used the Hubble coronagraph to block light from Fomalhaut
and enhance the ring which, as you can see, is "significantly askew".
The reason for this, they postulate, is that the dust ring is under
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Re: [scifinoir2] Blog

[Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)]

I saw her movie last year and enjoyed it

Bosco Bosco wrote:
> His Wife wrote the Novel "Where The Heart Is." The movie is based on
> the book. Oprah made the book one of her book club picks. They're a
> talented Family. I'm gonna hang with my oldest son tonight so a movie
> may not be on the agenda. I've seen them all. I'll probably just
> dwell on my good memories
>
>
> --- "Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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>> He is on TNT and Oxygen today with Fire Down Below and Where The
>> Heart Is
>>
>> Bosco Bosco wrote:
>> 
>>> Thanks, I did send it to my Mom and some mutual friends.
>>>
>>> You can find me at
>>>
>>> http://www.myspace.com/boscoworld
>>>
>>> B
>>> --- "Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)"
>>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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>>>   
 You essay made me wish he had been one of my professors.  I hope
 your 
 sent this to your mom so she can share this with his family.  It
 
>> is
>> 
 a 
 beautiful tribute.  In the meantime, can we have the link to
 
>> your
>> 
 my 
 space site?

 Might I suggest you go rent something he was in?  When somebody
 
>> I
>> 
 got to 
 know during my brief acting/music career stint died, I went out
 
>> and
>> 
 rented a movie he had a part in.  When I miss find my self
 reminiscing 
 about  the old days going on casting calls with my cousin, I
 
>> check
>> 
 out 
 Trading Places.  She was only in it for five minutes - probably
 less, 
 but its my way of having her back for a while.

 Tracey

 Bosco Bosco wrote:
 
 
> I blog on My Space. I generally just do it to mark little
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>> 
>   
>   
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> interest me in my life. Today was a little different and I
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>> wanted
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> share with the class
>
> A Man Of Influence 
> Current mood:  sad 
>
>
> In the early 1980's my Mother was in graduate school getting a
> Doctorate in English. When she graduated, she took a job at a
>   
>   
 small
 
 
> college in Durant, Ok and I spent my last year of high school
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>   
 there. 
 
 
> After dropping out, I got a GED, failed my first semester of
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 college,
 
 
> joined the army, got discharged from the Army after basic, and
> basically kind of lived aimlessly for a couple of years. In the
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> the first day of class, Dennis Letts walked into the room, and
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 great
 
 
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 the
 

[scifinoir2] The Two Faces of Barak

[ravenadal]

Striking picture of Barak as Borg.

http://current.com/items/88850541_the_two_faces_of_barak

Re: [scifinoir2] News For Martha Jones Fans - Dr. Who/torchwoord

[KeithBJohnson]

what ep or eps do I need to see to get the scoop?
-- Original message -- 
From: "Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 

> Something happened when Jack died and at the end of the episode you saw, 
> he was still alive. Now he can't die. In fact, he and Rose have met 
> him when they travel to the future. They just do not know it is him. I 
> can not tell you more because it is a spoiler 
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
> > What's the premise of Torchwood? I only just now caught up on the eps of 
> > Dr. 
> Who were Rose was trapped on the alternate Earth with her mom, sometimes 
> boyfriend, and alternate reality father. I saw the first four or five eps of 
> the season with Martha, but that's it. I remember some references to 
> Torchwood 
> in the show. But didn't Captain Jack die in Dr. Who? How is he alive, what is 
> Torchwood, and how did it come to exist in our time? 
> > 
> > -- Original message -- 
> > From: Martin 
> > Gymfig, the BBC is capitalizing on her unexpected popularity by 
> > split-tining 
> her between "Torchwood" and "DW". She'll be in those eps on "Torchwood", then 
> return to be the Doctor's co-companion with Catherine Tate for the rest of 
> S4. 
> > 
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
> > In a message dated 2/22/2008 7:12:33 PM Eastern Standard Time, 
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: 
> > 
> > season of "Doctor Who," she will have an additional three-episode run on 
> > the adult-themed spinoff for BBC Two and BBC America, "Torchwood." 
> > 
> > I love Torchwood. I heard about this on the sci fi channel. I am glad that 
> > she is back but I am sad that she is only back for three episodes. 
> > 
> > 
> > I still don't understand what is the big deal with Capt. Jack. He does not 
> > seem to be that cold leader his character is supposed to be. It is quite 
> > laughable to see him be "threatening." 
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[scifinoir2] [Fwd: RE: Surprising nature flick ~ amazing and unexpected finish]

[Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)]

You got to see this!
 Original Message 
Subject:RE: Surprising nature flick ~ amazing and unexpected finish
Date:   Mon, 18 Feb 2008 23:26:41 -0800
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To: Tracey de Morsella <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, 'paul
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http://www.newscientist.com/blog/shortsharpscience/2008/02/lions-versus-buffaloes-and-elephants.html







 
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Re: [scifinoir2] News For Martha Jones Fans - Dr. Who/torchwoord

[Gymfig]

Torchwood is an origination that monitors alien and strange happenings. It 
keeps the world safe. There is a rift in Cardiff Wales and a lot of things come 
through. So they keep track of it. Capt Jack cannot die. He is a time agent, 
not a time lord. He is somewhat reformed. 
 
_http://www.bbc.co.uk/torchwood/_ (http://www.bbc.co.uk/torchwood/) 



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[scifinoir2] Star Trek/Brokeback Mountain Mashup

[ravenadal]

http://current.com/items/88849584_star_trek_brokeback_mountain_mashup

Re: [scifinoir2] News For Martha Jones Fans - Dr. Who/torchwoord

[Gymfig]

I love the writing because I love the banter. Very few writers can write 
"under the breath" dialogue. 



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Re: [scifinoir2] News For Martha Jones Fans - Dr. Who/torchwoord

[Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)]

The last three or four episodes of last season that have Martha and Capt 
Jack in them.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> what ep or eps do I need to see to get the scoop?
> -- Original message -- 
> From: "Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
>
>   
>> Something happened when Jack died and at the end of the episode you saw, 
>> he was still alive. Now he can't die. In fact, he and Rose have met 
>> him when they travel to the future. They just do not know it is him. I 
>> can not tell you more because it is a spoiler 
>>
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
>> 
>>> What's the premise of Torchwood? I only just now caught up on the eps of 
>>> Dr. 
>>>   
>> Who were Rose was trapped on the alternate Earth with her mom, sometimes 
>> boyfriend, and alternate reality father. I saw the first four or five eps of 
>> the season with Martha, but that's it. I remember some references to 
>> Torchwood 
>> in the show. But didn't Captain Jack die in Dr. Who? How is he alive, what 
>> is 
>> Torchwood, and how did it come to exist in our time? 
>> 
>>> -- Original message -- 
>>> From: Martin 
>>> Gymfig, the BBC is capitalizing on her unexpected popularity by 
>>> split-tining 
>>>   
>> her between "Torchwood" and "DW". She'll be in those eps on "Torchwood", 
>> then 
>> return to be the Doctor's co-companion with Catherine Tate for the rest of 
>> S4. 
>> 
>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
>>> In a message dated 2/22/2008 7:12:33 PM Eastern Standard Time, 
>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: 
>>>
>>> season of "Doctor Who," she will have an additional three-episode run on 
>>> the adult-themed spinoff for BBC Two and BBC America, "Torchwood." 
>>>
>>> I love Torchwood. I heard about this on the sci fi channel. I am glad that 
>>> she is back but I am sad that she is only back for three episodes. 
>>>
>>>
>>> I still don't understand what is the big deal with Capt. Jack. He does not 
>>> seem to be that cold leader his character is supposed to be. It is quite 
>>> laughable to see him be "threatening." 
>>>
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[Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)]

I do not remember which episode he died in, but I think it was one of 
the Bad Wolf episodes with the reality tv theme

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> what ep or eps do I need to see to get the scoop?
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>
>   
>> Something happened when Jack died and at the end of the episode you saw, 
>> he was still alive. Now he can't die. In fact, he and Rose have met 
>> him when they travel to the future. They just do not know it is him. I 
>> can not tell you more because it is a spoiler 
>>
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
>> 
>>> What's the premise of Torchwood? I only just now caught up on the eps of 
>>> Dr. 
>>>   
>> Who were Rose was trapped on the alternate Earth with her mom, sometimes 
>> boyfriend, and alternate reality father. I saw the first four or five eps of 
>> the season with Martha, but that's it. I remember some references to 
>> Torchwood 
>> in the show. But didn't Captain Jack die in Dr. Who? How is he alive, what 
>> is 
>> Torchwood, and how did it come to exist in our time? 
>> 
>>> -- Original message -- 
>>> From: Martin 
>>> Gymfig, the BBC is capitalizing on her unexpected popularity by 
>>> split-tining 
>>>   
>> her between "Torchwood" and "DW". She'll be in those eps on "Torchwood", 
>> then 
>> return to be the Doctor's co-companion with Catherine Tate for the rest of 
>> S4. 
>> 
>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
>>> In a message dated 2/22/2008 7:12:33 PM Eastern Standard Time, 
>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: 
>>>
>>> season of "Doctor Who," she will have an additional three-episode run on 
>>> the adult-themed spinoff for BBC Two and BBC America, "Torchwood." 
>>>
>>> I love Torchwood. I heard about this on the sci fi channel. I am glad that 
>>> she is back but I am sad that she is only back for three episodes. 
>>>
>>>
>>> I still don't understand what is the big deal with Capt. Jack. He does not 
>>> seem to be that cold leader his character is supposed to be. It is quite 
>>> laughable to see him be "threatening." 
>>>
>>> **Ideas to please picky eaters. Watch video on AOL Living. 
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Re: [scifinoir2] News For Martha Jones Fans - Dr. Who/torchwoord

[Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)]

The first episode I saw discussing Torchwood is the episode in which the 
Doctor and Rose go back in time and meet Queen Elizabeth and encounter a 
werewolf. The queen set up Torchwood after that encounter

Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) wrote:
> I do not remember which episode he died in, but I think it was one of 
> the Bad Wolf episodes with the reality tv theme
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> what ep or eps do I need to see to get the scoop?
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>>
>>   
>>> Something happened when Jack died and at the end of the episode you saw, 
>>> he was still alive. Now he can't die. In fact, he and Rose have met 
>>> him when they travel to the future. They just do not know it is him. I 
>>> can not tell you more because it is a spoiler 
>>>
>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
>>> 
 What's the premise of Torchwood? I only just now caught up on the eps of 
 Dr. 
   
>>> Who were Rose was trapped on the alternate Earth with her mom, sometimes 
>>> boyfriend, and alternate reality father. I saw the first four or five eps 
>>> of 
>>> the season with Martha, but that's it. I remember some references to 
>>> Torchwood 
>>> in the show. But didn't Captain Jack die in Dr. Who? How is he alive, what 
>>> is 
>>> Torchwood, and how did it come to exist in our time? 
>>> 
 -- Original message -- 
 From: Martin 
 Gymfig, the BBC is capitalizing on her unexpected popularity by 
 split-tining 
   
>>> her between "Torchwood" and "DW". She'll be in those eps on "Torchwood", 
>>> then 
>>> return to be the Doctor's co-companion with Catherine Tate for the rest of 
>>> S4. 
>>> 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
 In a message dated 2/22/2008 7:12:33 PM Eastern Standard Time, 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: 

 season of "Doctor Who," she will have an additional three-episode run on 
 the adult-themed spinoff for BBC Two and BBC America, "Torchwood." 

 I love Torchwood. I heard about this on the sci fi channel. I am glad that 
 she is back but I am sad that she is only back for three episodes. 


 I still don't understand what is the big deal with Capt. Jack. He does not 
 seem to be that cold leader his character is supposed to be. It is quite 
 laughable to see him be "threatening." 

 **Ideas to please picky eaters. Watch video on AOL Living. 

   
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Re: [scifinoir2]netflix

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What do you mean?  Provide a link, I will join

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Re: [scifinoir2] McCain hopes Castro to "meet Marx soon"

[Martin]

Tracey, the man's *always* been odd. 

He was a stellar underachiever at Annapolis, barely graduated, wore the 
near-singular dishonor of being in the Century Club every year he spent on the 
Yard (that's having 100+ demerits per year, which requires being a total 
f*ck-up), was a lousy junior officer riding his daddy's coattails (daddy was a 
captain in the Navy at the time McCain was on the Yard, and eventually retired 
a two-star admiral. What shaped him up in any way was being a POW. It's also 
what really put him over the edge. For his conduct as a POW alone (refusing to 
eb released from captivity just because he was offered it based on his daddy's 
rank), I respect him.

"Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  
 I know they make jokes about his age all the time, but 
his speeches, 
 jokes, quotes and interviews have a different, off kilter ...  wacko.  Sorry
 
 I saw him on the daily show and a few other interview shows last summer 
 and he did not sound so nutty. I did not agree with anything he said, 
 but he seemed to be sane.  Now he looks frail and really sounds out 
 there.  Is it possible he has dementia or is he just dementia and no 
 longer afraid to let his demented side out.
 
 Martin wrote:
 > It's not safe to have this man anywhere inside the Beltway.
 >
 > "Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I 
 > can't believe I used to admire this guy for his indepence.  He is 
 > truly scary
 >
 > Martin wrote:
 >   
 >> John McCain, USNA '58. We're so proud of him. :P
 >>
 >> "Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)"  wrote: By Jason Szep Fri 
 >> Feb 22, 11:34 AM ET
 >> http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080222/od_uk_nm/oukoe_uk_usa_politics_mccain_castro;_ylt=AmvlgDEPu9NzP1gcKIAEaHztiBIF
 >> INDIANAPOLIS (Reuters) - Republican presidential front-runner John 
 >> McCain suggested on Friday that he hoped retired Cuban leader Fidel 
 >> Castro would die soon and said Castro's brother will be a worse leader.
 >>
 >>
 >> "I hope he has the opportunity to meet Karl Marx very soon," McCain told 
 >> a town-hall style meeting of about 150 people, referring to communist 
 >> theoretician Marx who died on March 14, 1883.
 >>
 >> Castro, 81, announced on Tuesday he was stepping down as president and 
 >> commander-in-chief of Cuba's armed forces after 49 years in power. His 
 >> brother Raul Castro is expected to be named Cuba's new head of state on 
 >> Sunday.
 >>
 >> "Apparently he is trying to groom his brother Raul," McCain said. "Raul 
 >> is worse in many respects than Fidel was."
 >>
 >> Castro has not appeared in public since undergoing stomach surgery and 
 >> handing power temporarily to Raul in July 2006.
 >>
 >> McCain, a four-term Arizona senator, has an almost insurmountable lead 
 >> over his last major Republican rival, former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee.
 >>
 >> McCain's approach to Cuba has generally echoed that of U.S. President 
 >> George W. Bush, who has tightened a decades-long trade embargo and has 
 >> rejected easing sanctions without a transition to democracy.
 >>
 >> McCain, who is popular among conservative Cuban-Americans, also has said 
 >> that if he wins the November 4 U.S. presidential election he would keep 
 >> up pressure for political change in Cuba's one-party state.
 >>
 >> That includes a travel ban and trade and financial sanctions enforced a 
 >> few years after Castro's 1959 revolution on the Caribbean island.
 >>
 >> McCain, 71, a former prisoner of war in Vietnam, has accused Cubans of 
 >> participating in the torture of some of his fellow prisoners in Hanoi 
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Re: [scifinoir2] News For Martha Jones Fans - Dr. Who/torchwoord

[Martin]

Keith, I can't remember whether this was answered for you or not. Let me know 
if it wasn't.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:   What's the premise of 
Torchwood? I only just now caught up on the eps of Dr. Who were Rose was 
trapped on the alternate Earth with her mom, sometimes boyfriend, and alternate 
reality father.  I saw the first four or five eps of the season with Martha, 
but that's it. I remember some references to Torchwood in the show. But didn't 
Captain Jack die in Dr. Who? How is he alive, what is Torchwood, and how did it 
come to exist in our time?
 
 -- Original message -- 
 From: Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
 Gymfig, the BBC is capitalizing on her unexpected popularity by split-tining 
her between "Torchwood" and "DW". She'll be in those eps on "Torchwood", then 
return to be the Doctor's co-companion with Catherine Tate for the rest of S4.
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
 In a message dated 2/22/2008 7:12:33 PM Eastern Standard Time, 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
 season of "Doctor Who," she will have an additional three-episode run on 
 the adult-themed spinoff for BBC Two and BBC America, "Torchwood."
 
 I love Torchwood. I heard about this on the sci fi channel. I am glad that 
 she is back but I am sad that she is only back for three episodes. 
 
 I still don't understand what is the big deal with Capt. Jack. He does not 
 seem to be that cold leader his character is supposed to be. It is quite 
 laughable to see him be "threatening." 
 
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Re: [scifinoir2] News For Martha Jones Fans - Dr. Who/torchwoord

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In a message dated 2/23/2008 8:43:51 PM Eastern Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

The first episode I saw discussing Torchwood is the episode in which the 
Doctor and Rose go back in time and meet Queen Elizabeth and encounter a 
werewolf. The queen set up Torchwood after that encounter

Oh yea. I also remember the episode when Torchwood destroyed an alien ever 
though the alien meant no harm. Their job is to protect Great Britain at all 
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[scifinoir2] Obama Wins Democrats Abroad Primary - 11th Win in a Row

[ravenadal]

http://current.com/items/88848651_overseas_primary_gives_obama_his_11th_straight_win

Obama Wins Democrats Abroad Primary

By STEPHEN OHLEMACHER – 2 days ago

WASHINGTON (AP) — Barack Obama won the Democrats Abroad global primary
in results announced Thursday, giving him 11 straight victories in the
race for the Democratic presidential nomination.

The Illinois senator won the primary in which Democrats living in
other countries voted by Internet, mail and in person, according to
results released by the Democrats Abroad, an organization sanctioned
by the national party.

Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton has not won a nominating contest since
Super Tuesday, more than two weeks ago.

More than 20,000 U.S. citizens living abroad voted in the primary,
which ran from Feb. 5 to Feb. 12. Obama won about 65 percent of the
vote, according to the results released Thursday.

Voters living in 164 countries cast votes online, while expatriates
voted in person in more than 30 countries, at hotels in Australia and
Costa Rica, at a pub in Ireland and at a Starbucks in Thailand. The
results took about a week to tabulate as local committees around the
globe gathered ballots.

"This really gives Americans an opportunity to participate," said
Christine Schon Marques, the international chair of Democrats Abroad.

Italian Sports Minister Giovanna Melandri, who has dual citizenship,
cast a vote for Obama in Rome.

"It wasn't an easy choice for me. I would still love seeing a ticket
with Obama and Hillary (Clinton)," Melandri told The Associated Press
in a telephone interview. "A drive for change is what is needed in the
U.S. and I think that Obama has that drive."

There is no comparable primary among Republicans, though the GOP has
several contests this weekend in U.S. territories, including party
caucuses in Puerto Rico Sunday.

The Democrats Abroad controls seven pledged delegates at the party's
national convention this summer. However, the group's system of
dividing the delegates is unique, and could create an anomaly in which
Obama and Clinton end up with fractions of delegates.

The party will send 14 pledged delegates to the convention, each with
a half vote. The primary was used to determine nine people, or the
equivalent of 4.5 delegates. Obama won 2.5 and Clinton won two,
according to Schon Marques.

The Democrats Abroad will hold a global convention in Vancouver,
Canada, in April to select the other five people who will attend the
convention. They will represent the remaining 2.5 votes.

The system creates the possibility that Obama and Clinton could each
end up with an extra half vote at the convention, Schon Marques said.

Democratic parties in U.S. territories use similar systems, in which
they send twice the number of delegates, giving them each a half vote.
But their systems are designed to ensure that that candidates do not
end up with fractions of delegates.

Heading into the Democrats Abroad primary, Obama led with 1,351
delegates, and Clinton had 1,262.

Re: [scifinoir2] News For Martha Jones Fans - Dr. Who/torchwoord

[Martin]

Keith, the eps that present the spoilers Tracey's thinking of are "Utopia" and 
"Time Crash". The former explains the reason Captain jack can't die, and the 
latter is the Big Bomb. BIG Bomb.

"Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: The 
first episode I saw discussing Torchwood is the episode in which the 
Doctor and Rose go back in time and meet Queen Elizabeth and encounter a 
werewolf. The queen set up Torchwood after that encounter

Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) wrote:
> I do not remember which episode he died in, but I think it was one of 
> the Bad Wolf episodes with the reality tv theme
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> what ep or eps do I need to see to get the scoop?
>> -- Original message -- 
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>>   
>>> Something happened when Jack died and at the end of the episode you saw, 
>>> he was still alive. Now he can't die. In fact, he and Rose have met 
>>> him when they travel to the future. They just do not know it is him. I 
>>> can not tell you more because it is a spoiler 
>>>
>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
>>> 
 What's the premise of Torchwood? I only just now caught up on the eps of 
 Dr. 
   
>>> Who were Rose was trapped on the alternate Earth with her mom, sometimes 
>>> boyfriend, and alternate reality father. I saw the first four or five eps 
>>> of 
>>> the season with Martha, but that's it. I remember some references to 
>>> Torchwood 
>>> in the show. But didn't Captain Jack die in Dr. Who? How is he alive, what 
>>> is 
>>> Torchwood, and how did it come to exist in our time? 
>>> 
 -- Original message -- 
 From: Martin 
 Gymfig, the BBC is capitalizing on her unexpected popularity by 
 split-tining 
   
>>> her between "Torchwood" and "DW". She'll be in those eps on "Torchwood", 
>>> then 
>>> return to be the Doctor's co-companion with Catherine Tate for the rest of 
>>> S4. 
>>> 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
 In a message dated 2/22/2008 7:12:33 PM Eastern Standard Time, 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: 

 season of "Doctor Who," she will have an additional three-episode run on 
 the adult-themed spinoff for BBC Two and BBC America, "Torchwood." 

 I love Torchwood. I heard about this on the sci fi channel. I am glad that 
 she is back but I am sad that she is only back for three episodes. 


 I still don't understand what is the big deal with Capt. Jack. He does not 
 seem to be that cold leader his character is supposed to be. It is quite 
 laughable to see him be "threatening." 

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Re: [scifinoir2] News For Martha Jones Fans - Dr. Who/torchwoord

[Martin]

Tracey, Keith, that ep was "Bad Wolf".

"Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  
 I do not remember which episode he died in, but I 
think it was one of 
 the Bad Wolf episodes with the reality tv theme
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 > what ep or eps do I need to see to get the scoop?
 > -- Original message -- 
 > From: "Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
 >
 >   
 >> Something happened when Jack died and at the end of the episode you saw, 
 >> he was still alive. Now he can't die. In fact, he and Rose have met 
 >> him when they travel to the future. They just do not know it is him. I 
 >> can not tell you more because it is a spoiler 
 >>
 >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
 >> 
 >>> What's the premise of Torchwood? I only just now caught up on the eps of 
 >>> Dr. 
 >>>   
 >> Who were Rose was trapped on the alternate Earth with her mom, sometimes 
 >> boyfriend, and alternate reality father. I saw the first four or five eps 
 >> of 
 >> the season with Martha, but that's it. I remember some references to 
 >> Torchwood 
 >> in the show. But didn't Captain Jack die in Dr. Who? How is he alive, what 
 >> is 
 >> Torchwood, and how did it come to exist in our time? 
 >> 
 >>> -- Original message -- 
 >>> From: Martin 
 >>> Gymfig, the BBC is capitalizing on her unexpected popularity by 
 >>> split-tining 
 >>>   
 >> her between "Torchwood" and "DW". She'll be in those eps on "Torchwood", 
 >> then 
 >> return to be the Doctor's co-companion with Catherine Tate for the rest of 
 >> S4. 
 >> 
 >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
 >>> In a message dated 2/22/2008 7:12:33 PM Eastern Standard Time, 
 >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: 
 >>>
 >>> season of "Doctor Who," she will have an additional three-episode run on 
 >>> the adult-themed spinoff for BBC Two and BBC America, "Torchwood." 
 >>>
 >>> I love Torchwood. I heard about this on the sci fi channel. I am glad that 
 >>> she is back but I am sad that she is only back for three episodes. 
 >>>
 >>>
 >>> I still don't understand what is the big deal with Capt. Jack. He does not 
 >>> seem to be that cold leader his character is supposed to be. It is quite 
 >>> laughable to see him be "threatening." 
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Re: [scifinoir2] Bad Movies Conferssion Time Re: Jumper - SPOILER ALERT!!!!!!

[Martin]

A...I feel better already remembering that. Thanks, pal!

Astromancer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:   I would 
join in, but you've all heard the Star Crash story...Can't get any worse than 
that...
 
 Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  Okay, I'm in...
 
 "Crossworlds", starring a pre-"Sports Night" Josh Charles, who plays an 
aimless college student who gets picked up at a party by a hot blonde in a 
mini-skirt. (That was the first clue for me.)
 
 Said blonde turns out to be a warrior from another dimension, who's after our 
hero because of a necklace he has, the last thing he has to remember his dead 
father by. 
 
 Said necklace is actually a talisman that can, if wielded properly, allow the 
user to shape the Cosmos to his or her fancy, travel dimensions at will and 
other fun stuff. 
 
 The blonde takes our hero to her mentor, played by Rutger Hauer, whom we're 
*supposed* to see as a famed and nigh-invincible warrior. (I might've bought 
it, if not for the fact that I was in better shape than he was, one lung and 
all.)
 
 Anyhoo, the adventure just speeds- uh, *meanders* along to its utterly 
predictable climax. Watchign it, I was grateful for both the ending and the 
fact that I only paid six bucks for the video.
 
 tdemorsella <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: So gang. It seems like it is a given 
that some us go to or rent
 movies we pretty much knoware going to be bad. So lets make it a
 confession time and open up about other bad flicks we saw knowing they
 were going to to be bad. 
 
 I have to think on it, but most recently, I saw Wild Hogs. Don't kick
 me off the list, but I thought the first half was hilarious. I
 watched a really bad one star movie, Cyber Wars also known as Avatar
 or Matrix Hunter. It starred Joseph Lau, David Warner (Jack the
 Ripper, Hog Father), and Joan Chen (twin Peaks) The Plot: In the near
 future in the Asian city-state Sintawan, everyone's identity is
 recorded in the vast CyberLink. The only way around this is using
 illegal simulated identity implants (sims). A young bounty hunter who
 makes her living tracking sims, finds herself the unlikely ally of a
 police detective who suspects the CyberLink is being perverted for an
 insidious and deadly purpose
 
 Okay, your turn
 
 tracey
 
 --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
 >
 > Give 'em time, Tracey.
 > 
 > "Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
 I saw it. It definitely was not theater
 worthy, but I think it would be 
 > a great TV show. I love the teleportation concept and some of the 
 > mythology and laws were good too. Unfortunately, it came across
 like a 
 > pilot movie for a scifi tv show. To mad it is not a tv series
 > 
 > ravenadal wrote:
 > > To me, teleportation has always been the coolest of all
 superpowers. 
 > > Couple it with a "proximity sense," keen hearing (so you can hear 
 > > when a shot is fired and teleport an instant before it gets there), 
 > > or just plain "common sense" and you have one heck of a skill set!
 > >
 > > ~rave!
 > >
 > > --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, "DJ VIBE"  wrote:
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 > >> 
 > >> 
 > >>> On Feb 15, 2008 6:31 PM, ravenadal  wrote:
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 > >>> 
 > >>> > There is a scene in the new Jumper movie (no, I have not seen 
 > >>> 
 > >> it)
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 > >>> > where the hero is watching the aftermath of the Hurricane 
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 > >> Karina on
 > >> 
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 > >> It was right in keeping with how his character was established in 
 > >> the movie, although for a moment there I thought he might think of 
 > >> using his abilities for good. 
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 > >> Overall, I found the movie pretty good, with one exception. How 
 > >> 
 > > the 
 > > 
 > >> hell did the Paladins continually catch jumpers? Its one thing if 
 > >> you get the drop on one, but if you're standing in FRONT of one who 
 > >> is fresh and the jumper sees you and you try to get him with your 
 > >> stun-wand, how are you gonna get him? In less than three minutes, 
 > >> my wife and I came up with several ways to use a teleportation 
 > >> 
 > > power 
 > > 
 > >> offesinvely (i.e. teleport in a circle around your opponent a la 
 > >> Nightcrawer. et. al) and in all of those cases we came up with, no 
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Re: [scifinoir2] News For Martha Jones Fans - Dr. Who/torchwoord

[Gymfig]

In the episode that he meets Rose, he talks about his problem. The episode 
that is on now is pretty good.  Very good stores centering on other teammates. 
It is not always about Capt Jack. 



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Re: [scifinoir2] [Fwd: RE: Surprising nature flick ~ amazing and unexpected finish]

[KeithBJohnson]

amazing. did you watch the Planet Earth series? If so, did you see the 
nighttime attack of the lions on that elephant? As they attacked it, the 
night-blind elephant panics as the desperately hungry lions keep striking it, 
finally bringing it down. Absolutely phenomenal

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> 
> You got to see this! 
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> Subject: RE: Surprising nature flick ~ amazing and unexpected finish 
> Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 23:26:41 -0800 
> From: Chris de Morsella 
> To: Tracey de Morsella , 'paul 
> demorsella' , 'julia demorsella' , 
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Re: [scifinoir2] News For Martha Jones Fans - Dr. Who/torchwoord

[KeithBJohnson]

okay, thanks

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From: "Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
The last three or four episodes of last season that have Martha and Capt 
Jack in them.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> what ep or eps do I need to see to get the scoop?
> -- Original message -- 
> From: "Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
>
> 
>> Something happened when Jack died and at the end of the episode you saw, 
>> he was still alive. Now he can't die. In fact, he and Rose have met 
>> him when they travel to the future. They just do not know it is him. I 
>> can not tell you more because it is a spoiler 
>>
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
>> 
>>> What's the premise of Torchwood? I only just now caught up on the eps of 
>>> Dr. 
>>> 
>> Who were Rose was trapped on the alternate Earth with her mom, sometimes 
>> boyfriend, and alternate reality father. I saw the first four or five eps of 
>> the season with Martha, but that's it. I remember some references to 
>> Torchwood 
>> in the show. But didn't Captain Jack die in Dr. Who? How is he alive, what 
>> is 
>> Torchwood, and how did it come to exist in our time? 
>> 
>>> -- Original message -- 
>>> From: Martin 
>>> Gymfig, the BBC is capitalizing on her unexpected popularity by 
>>> split-tining 
>>> 
>> her between "Torchwood" and "DW". She'll be in those eps on "Torchwood", 
>> then 
>> return to be the Doctor's co-companion with Catherine Tate for the rest of 
>> S4. 
>> 
>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
>>> In a message dated 2/22/2008 7:12:33 PM Eastern Standard Time, 
>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: 
>>>
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>>> the adult-themed spinoff for BBC Two and BBC America, "Torchwood." 
>>>
>>> I love Torchwood. I heard about this on the sci fi channel. I am glad that 
>>> she is back but I am sad that she is only back for three episodes. 
>>>
>>>
>>> I still don't understand what is the big deal with Capt. Jack. He does not 
>>> seem to be that cold leader his character is supposed to be. It is quite 
>>> laughable to see him be "threatening." 
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Re: [scifinoir2] News For Martha Jones Fans - Dr. Who/torchwoord

[KeithBJohnson]

thanks for the info

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From: Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
Keith, the eps that present the spoilers Tracey's thinking of are "Utopia" and 
"Time Crash". The former explains the reason Captain jack can't die, and the 
latter is the Big Bomb. BIG Bomb.

"Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: The 
first episode I saw discussing Torchwood is the episode in which the 
Doctor and Rose go back in time and meet Queen Elizabeth and encounter a 
werewolf. The queen set up Torchwood after that encounter

Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) wrote:
> I do not remember which episode he died in, but I think it was one of 
> the Bad Wolf episodes with the reality tv theme
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> what ep or eps do I need to see to get the scoop?
>> -- Original message -- 
>> From: "Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)" 
>>
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>>> Something happened when Jack died and at the end of the episode you saw, 
>>> he was still alive. Now he can't die. In fact, he and Rose have met 
>>> him when they travel to the future. They just do not know it is him. I 
>>> can not tell you more because it is a spoiler 
>>>
>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
>>> 
 What's the premise of Torchwood? I only just now caught up on the eps of 
 Dr. 
 
>>> Who were Rose was trapped on the alternate Earth with her mom, sometimes 
>>> boyfriend, and alternate reality father. I saw the first four or five eps 
>>> of 
>>> the season with Martha, but that's it. I remember some references to 
>>> Torchwood 
>>> in the show. But didn't Captain Jack die in Dr. Who? How is he alive, what 
>>> is 
>>> Torchwood, and how did it come to exist in our time? 
>>> 
 -- Original message -- 
 From: Martin 
 Gymfig, the BBC is capitalizing on her unexpected popularity by 
 split-tining 
 
>>> her between "Torchwood" and "DW". She'll be in those eps on "Torchwood", 
>>> then 
>>> return to be the Doctor's co-companion with Catherine Tate for the rest of 
>>> S4. 
>>> 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
 In a message dated 2/22/2008 7:12:33 PM Eastern Standard Time, 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: 

 season of "Doctor Who," she will have an additional three-episode run on 
 the adult-themed spinoff for BBC Two and BBC America, "Torchwood." 

 I love Torchwood. I heard about this on the sci fi channel. I am glad that 
 she is back but I am sad that she is only back for three episodes. 


 I still don't understand what is the big deal with Capt. Jack. He does not 
 seem to be that cold leader his character is supposed to be. It is quite 
 laughable to see him be "threatening." 

 **Ideas to please picky eaters. Watch video on AOL Living. 

 
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[scifinoir2] Re: It's Over for Jericho

[B. Smith]

I was still watching. I think the network's scheduling decisions
doomed the show. Killing off one of the main characters in the season
finale seems to have hurt the show as well.

--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> I posted an e-mail the day the show was returning, then posted a
follow up asking if anyone here was watching. Only one reply, and that
was from Gymfig, who doesn't watch the show at all. Is anyone here
watching it?
> 
> I also have to repeat my complaint at CBS' not showing the entire
series again in the weeks leading up to the return. That irritates me.
I watched the whole series, but missed the last three eps and didn't
want to watch them on my laptop. I was waiting and waiting, just
*knowing* that CBS would rerun the series again, in order to build up
more interest. But they didn't. I guess they were too busy selling it
to SciFi. I don't get that strategy. ABC did the same thing with
"Lost", which is maddening.
> 
> Too bad. Maybe my fantasy billionaire will pick up the show! :)
> 
> -- Original message -- 
> From: "Justin Mohareb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> Nuts.
> 
> JJ Mohareb
> 
> On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 7:13 PM, Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey
> L. Minor) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Sources: 'Jericho' To Wrap It Up
> >
> >
> > By MICHAEL HINMAN
> > Source: SyFy Portal
> > Feb-21-2008
> >
> > It looks like the "Jericho" experiment is about to come to an end.
> >
> > Sources have told SyFy Portal that CBS is gearing up to air the series
> > finale version of the post-apocalyptic series on March 25, one of two
> > endings shot that would either allow a cliffhanger going into a third
> > season, or a proper amount of closure for "Jericho" fans who
fought hard
> > to force CBS to reconsider its previous decision to cancel the show.
> >
> > "There are a lot of people here who really care about what happens to
> > 'Jericho,' and I think we all wanted to see it succeed," the
source, who
> > asked not to be identified, said. "Numbers are numbers, and [CBS]
had to
> > do what [CBS] had to do."
> >
> > Ratings for the first two episodes were well below even some of the
> > worst numbers the show experienced at the end of the first season
which
> > helped prompt network officials to move toward cancellation.
Although it
> > is competing in a post-"American Idol" scheduling environment,
"Jericho"
> > struggled to compete with shows that were either in reruns, or not
part
> > of mainstream viewing habits.
> >
> > At the same time, audiences in key demographics of 18 to 49 -- a demo
> > that isn't typically attracted to CBS for many of its other
programmings
> > -- were noticeably absent from the first pair of viewings from the
show,
> > and there is little chance they'll suddenly return in the coming
weeks.
> >
> > But the decision isn't quite final yet ... network executives
still have
> > room to change their mind.
> >
> > "If the audience can come back to the show in the next two
episodes, and
> > I mean a lot, [CBS] may reconsider," the source said. "Fans definitely
> > have a say, and they had a say last summer [with the 'Nuts to Jericho'
> > campaign], but I think the final decision this time is going to come
> > down to hard numbers, and they're just not there for 'Jericho.'"
> >
> > Please note that none of this has been confirmed by CBS, and should be
> > treated as any rumor would.
> >
> > "Jericho" airs Tuesdays at 10 p.m. ET on CBS.
> >
> > http://www.syfyportal.com/news424744.html
> >
> >
> >
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Re: [scifinoir2] The Two Faces of Barak

[Astromancer]

It looks more like a cross between the Terminator and Frankenstein...

ravenadal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  Striking picture of Barak as Borg.

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Re: [scifinoir2] [Fwd: RE: Surprising nature flick ~ amazing and unexpected finish]

[Astromancer]

I've seen this about three times...Bull: "Must not know who he's messin' with!"

"Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  
You got to see this!
 Original Message 
Subject: RE: Surprising nature flick ~ amazing and unexpected finish
Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 23:26:41 -0800
From: Chris de Morsella 
To: Tracey de Morsella , 'paul
demorsella' 
, 'julia demorsella' ,
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Re: [scifinoir2] Star Trek/Brokeback Mountain Mashup

[Astromancer]

LMBAO...You guys are sick! LOL

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Re: [scifinoir2] News For Martha Jones Fans - Dr. Who/torchwoord

[Astromancer]

Um...what is torchwood about?

Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  Tracey, Keith, that ep was "Bad 
Wolf".

"Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I do 
not remember which episode he died in, but I think it was one of 
the Bad Wolf episodes with the reality tv theme

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> what ep or eps do I need to see to get the scoop?
> -- Original message -- 
> From: "Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
>
> 
>> Something happened when Jack died and at the end of the episode you saw, 
>> he was still alive. Now he can't die. In fact, he and Rose have met 
>> him when they travel to the future. They just do not know it is him. I 
>> can not tell you more because it is a spoiler 
>>
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
>> 
>>> What's the premise of Torchwood? I only just now caught up on the eps of 
>>> Dr. 
>>> 
>> Who were Rose was trapped on the alternate Earth with her mom, sometimes 
>> boyfriend, and alternate reality father. I saw the first four or five eps of 
>> the season with Martha, but that's it. I remember some references to 
>> Torchwood 
>> in the show. But didn't Captain Jack die in Dr. Who? How is he alive, what 
>> is 
>> Torchwood, and how did it come to exist in our time? 
>> 
>>> -- Original message -- 
>>> From: Martin 
>>> Gymfig, the BBC is capitalizing on her unexpected popularity by 
>>> split-tining 
>>> 
>> her between "Torchwood" and "DW". She'll be in those eps on "Torchwood", 
>> then 
>> return to be the Doctor's co-companion with Catherine Tate for the rest of 
>> S4. 
>> 
>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
>>> In a message dated 2/22/2008 7:12:33 PM Eastern Standard Time, 
>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: 
>>>
>>> season of "Doctor Who," she will have an additional three-episode run on 
>>> the adult-themed spinoff for BBC Two and BBC America, "Torchwood." 
>>>
>>> I love Torchwood. I heard about this on the sci fi channel. I am glad that 
>>> she is back but I am sad that she is only back for three episodes. 
>>>
>>>
>>> I still don't understand what is the big deal with Capt. Jack. He does not 
>>> seem to be that cold leader his character is supposed to be. It is quite 
>>> laughable to see him be "threatening." 
>>>
>>> **Ideas to please picky eaters. Watch video on AOL Living. 
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Re: [scifinoir2] Re: It's Over for Jericho

[GWashin891]

While I'm a big Jericho fan my experiance any show that lasts when the 
networks wish otherwise doesn't turn out to be good.   And their are many 
examples 
out their to prove this.So To be honest I would rather have the creators 
end the show on their terms instead of the networks.An it's looks like they 
are using their chance to do just that.


-GTW

In a message dated 2/23/08 10:48:10 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


> I was still watching. I think the network's scheduling decisions
> doomed the show. Killing off one of the main characters in the season
> finale seems to have hurt the show as well.
> 
> --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >
> > I posted an e-mail the day the show was returning, then posted a
> follow up asking if anyone here was watching. Only one reply, and that
> was from Gymfig, who doesn't watch the show at all. Is anyone here
> watching it?
> >
> > I also have to repeat my complaint at CBS' not showing the entire
> series again in the weeks leading up to the return. That irritates me.
> I watched the whole series, but missed the last three eps and didn't
> want to watch them on my laptop. I was waiting and waiting, just
> *knowing* that CBS would rerun the series again, in order to build up
> more interest. But they didn't. I guess they were too busy selling it
> to SciFi. I don't get that strategy. ABC did the same thing with
> "Lost", which is maddening.
> >
> > Too bad. Maybe my fantasy billionaire will pick up the show! :)
> 




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Re: [scifinoir2] Re: It's Over for Jericho

[KeithBJohnson]

agreed. 

-- Original message -- 
From: "B. Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
I was still watching. I think the network's scheduling decisions
doomed the show. Killing off one of the main characters in the season
finale seems to have hurt the show as well.

--- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> I posted an e-mail the day the show was returning, then posted a
follow up asking if anyone here was watching. Only one reply, and that
was from Gymfig, who doesn't watch the show at all. Is anyone here
watching it?
> 
> I also have to repeat my complaint at CBS' not showing the entire
series again in the weeks leading up to the return. That irritates me.
I watched the whole series, but missed the last three eps and didn't
want to watch them on my laptop. I was waiting and waiting, just
*knowing* that CBS would rerun the series again, in order to build up
more interest. But they didn't. I guess they were too busy selling it
to SciFi. I don't get that strategy. ABC did the same thing with
"Lost", which is maddening.
> 
> Too bad. Maybe my fantasy billionaire will pick up the show! :)
> 
> -- Original message -- 
> From: "Justin Mohareb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> Nuts.
> 
> JJ Mohareb
> 
> On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 7:13 PM, Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey
> L. Minor) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Sources: 'Jericho' To Wrap It Up
> >
> >
> > By MICHAEL HINMAN
> > Source: SyFy Portal
> > Feb-21-2008
> >
> > It looks like the "Jericho" experiment is about to come to an end.
> >
> > Sources have told SyFy Portal that CBS is gearing up to air the series
> > finale version of the post-apocalyptic series on March 25, one of two
> > endings shot that would either allow a cliffhanger going into a third
> > season, or a proper amount of closure for "Jericho" fans who
fought hard
> > to force CBS to reconsider its previous decision to cancel the show.
> >
> > "There are a lot of people here who really care about what happens to
> > 'Jericho,' and I think we all wanted to see it succeed," the
source, who
> > asked not to be identified, said. "Numbers are numbers, and [CBS]
had to
> > do what [CBS] had to do."
> >
> > Ratings for the first two episodes were well below even some of the
> > worst numbers the show experienced at the end of the first season
which
> > helped prompt network officials to move toward cancellation.
Although it
> > is competing in a post-"American Idol" scheduling environment,
"Jericho"
> > struggled to compete with shows that were either in reruns, or not
part
> > of mainstream viewing habits.
> >
> > At the same time, audiences in key demographics of 18 to 49 -- a demo
> > that isn't typically attracted to CBS for many of its other
programmings
> > -- were noticeably absent from the first pair of viewings from the
show,
> > and there is little chance they'll suddenly return in the coming
weeks.
> >
> > But the decision isn't quite final yet ... network executives
still have
> > room to change their mind.
> >
> > "If the audience can come back to the show in the next two
episodes, and
> > I mean a lot, [CBS] may reconsider," the source said. "Fans definitely
> > have a say, and they had a say last summer [with the 'Nuts to Jericho'
> > campaign], but I think the final decision this time is going to come
> > down to hard numbers, and they're just not there for 'Jericho.'"
> >
> > Please note that none of this has been confirmed by CBS, and should be
> > treated as any rumor would.
> >
> > "Jericho" airs Tuesdays at 10 p.m. ET on CBS.
> >
> > http://www.syfyportal.com/news424744.html
> >
> >
> >
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Re: [scifinoir2] Bionic Woman Laid to Rest

[Astromancer]

Definitely the literal definition of "Theatre of the Mind..." for that is the 
only place it exists...

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  i often have this silly fantasy that a really rich 
billionaire could create a cable channel and fund shows that draw 
small-but-dedicated audiences for their quality. In this fantasy world, the 
billionaire would underwrite shows like "Threshold", "John Doe", "Odyssey 5", 
"Space: Above and Beyond", "The Dresden Files", "Karen Sisco". We'd get another 
season of "Exo-Squad" and "Samurai Jack". The like of Coto would get a chance 
to really see their projects to fruition. 

"Frank's Place" would return.

Yeah, yeah, a fantasy indeed. No one would do that, and even if they did, the 
backer would likely not have the same taste as mine, and still cancel good 
shows. But in a world where billionaires buy boats big as apartment complexes 
and fund science fiction halls of fame, i can dream, can't i???

-- Original message -- 
From: "Lockhart, Daryle" 

Jason Cahill and Manny Coto should do a show together. They are both great 
at saving failed projects.

On Fri, 22 Feb 2008 11:26:42 -0500, Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. 
Minor) wrote:

> It's now official: The Commander in Chief award for the most spectacular
> freshman flame-out of the 07-08 TV season goes to... Bionic Woman!
>
> Although NBC isn't talking, I'm told by multiple sources that Bionic
> staffers were informed late last week that the troubled reboot has
> indeed been canceled. That means no spring relaunch under new
> show-runner Jason Cahill — which is too bad. Cahill's a talented guy
> (see: The Sopranos), and I was anxious to see what he would do with the
> show. But I guess it wasn't meant to be.
>
> At least now the first stage of grief can get under way. No, not shock —
> the snarky postmortem! What do you think felled Bionic Woman in the end?
> Was it the lackluster pilot? The absence of a clear, creative vision?
> Not enough Starbuck? Too much Isaiah Washington? All of the above? Sound
> off in the comments section below!
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Re: [scifinoir2] Bionic Woman Laid to Rest

[KeithBJohnson]

alas, 'tis true!

-- Original message -- 
From: Astromancer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
Definitely the literal definition of "Theatre of the Mind..." for that is the 
only place it exists...

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i often have this silly fantasy that a really rich 
billionaire could create a cable channel and fund shows that draw 
small-but-dedicated audiences for their quality. In this fantasy world, the 
billionaire would underwrite shows like "Threshold", "John Doe", "Odyssey 5", 
"Space: Above and Beyond", "The Dresden Files", "Karen Sisco". We'd get another 
season of "Exo-Squad" and "Samurai Jack". The like of Coto would get a chance 
to really see their projects to fruition. 

"Frank's Place" would return.

Yeah, yeah, a fantasy indeed. No one would do that, and even if they did, the 
backer would likely not have the same taste as mine, and still cancel good 
shows. But in a world where billionaires buy boats big as apartment complexes 
and fund science fiction halls of fame, i can dream, can't i???

-- Original message -- 
From: "Lockhart, Daryle" 

Jason Cahill and Manny Coto should do a show together. They are both great 
at saving failed projects.

On Fri, 22 Feb 2008 11:26:42 -0500, Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. 
Minor) wrote:

> It's now official: The Commander in Chief award for the most spectacular
> freshman flame-out of the 07-08 TV season goes to... Bionic Woman!
>
> Although NBC isn't talking, I'm told by multiple sources that Bionic
> staffers were informed late last week that the troubled reboot has
> indeed been canceled. That means no spring relaunch under new
> show-runner Jason Cahill — which is too bad. Cahill's a talented guy
> (see: The Sopranos), and I was anxious to see what he would do with the
> show. But I guess it wasn't meant to be.
>
> At least now the first stage of grief can get under way. No, not shock —
> the snarky postmortem! What do you think felled Bionic Woman in the end?
> Was it the lackluster pilot? The absence of a clear, creative vision?
> Not enough Starbuck? Too much Isaiah Washington? All of the above? Sound
> off in the comments section below!
> http://community.tvguide.com/blog/TVGuide-Editors-Blog/Ausiello-Report/70049
>

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Re: [scifinoir2] It's Over for Jericho

[Astromancer]

Stupid numbers...probably not figuring out who the target audience is and, 
therefore, they take it out on the fans...

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  I posted an e-mail the day the show was 
returning, then posted a follow up asking if anyone here was watching. Only one 
reply, and that was from Gymfig, who doesn't watch the show at all. Is anyone 
here watching it?

I also have to repeat my complaint at CBS' not showing the entire series again 
in the weeks leading up to the return. That irritates me. I watched the whole 
series, but missed the last three eps and didn't want to watch them on my 
laptop. I was waiting and waiting, just *knowing* that CBS would rerun the 
series again, in order to build up more interest. But they didn't. I guess they 
were too busy selling it to SciFi. I don't get that strategy. ABC did the same 
thing with "Lost", which is maddening.

Too bad. Maybe my fantasy billionaire will pick up the show! :)

-- Original message -- 
From: "Justin Mohareb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
Nuts.

JJ Mohareb

On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 7:13 PM, Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey
L. Minor) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Sources: 'Jericho' To Wrap It Up
>
>
> By MICHAEL HINMAN
> Source: SyFy Portal
> Feb-21-2008
>
> It looks like the "Jericho" experiment is about to come to an end.
>
> Sources have told SyFy Portal that CBS is gearing up to air the series
> finale version of the post-apocalyptic series on March 25, one of two
> endings shot that would either allow a cliffhanger going into a third
> season, or a proper amount of closure for "Jericho" fans who fought hard
> to force CBS to reconsider its previous decision to cancel the show.
>
> "There are a lot of people here who really care about what happens to
> 'Jericho,' and I think we all wanted to see it succeed," the source, who
> asked not to be identified, said. "Numbers are numbers, and [CBS] had to
> do what [CBS] had to do."
>
> Ratings for the first two episodes were well below even some of the
> worst numbers the show experienced at the end of the first season which
> helped prompt network officials to move toward cancellation. Although it
> is competing in a post-"American Idol" scheduling environment, "Jericho"
> struggled to compete with shows that were either in reruns, or not part
> of mainstream viewing habits.
>
> At the same time, audiences in key demographics of 18 to 49 -- a demo
> that isn't typically attracted to CBS for many of its other programmings
> -- were noticeably absent from the first pair of viewings from the show,
> and there is little chance they'll suddenly return in the coming weeks.
>
> But the decision isn't quite final yet ... network executives still have
> room to change their mind.
>
> "If the audience can come back to the show in the next two episodes, and
> I mean a lot, [CBS] may reconsider," the source said. "Fans definitely
> have a say, and they had a say last summer [with the 'Nuts to Jericho'
> campaign], but I think the final decision this time is going to come
> down to hard numbers, and they're just not there for 'Jericho.'"
>
> Please note that none of this has been confirmed by CBS, and should be
> treated as any rumor would.
>
> "Jericho" airs Tuesdays at 10 p.m. ET on CBS.
>
> http://www.syfyportal.com/news424744.html
>
>
>

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[scifinoir2] Let's all become friends on Netflix

[tdemorsella]

Earlier today, Bosco put us onto Netflix friends.  

You can be come my Netflix friend by clicking on the following link:
http://www.netflix.com/BeMyFriend/PBZceQv3iPVDEm3v4oWm 

Netflix Friends allows you to share movie ideas and notes with your
friends. First you invite friends to connect with you and when they
accept, they are part of your Friends list. With Netflix friends, you
can see what each of your friends think about specific movies, suggest
movies them and add comments next to films that will help your friends
choose movies or avoid those you didn't enjoy.

So lets see if those of us who get films from Netflix, can all come
together via Netflix to make recommendations to eachother, share
reviews, and who knows what.

You can be come my Netflix friend by clicking on the following link:
http://www.netflix.com/BeMyFriend/PBZceQv3iPVDEm3v4oWm 

Re: [scifinoir2] It's Over for Jericho

[Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)]

I've have started watching on Comcast on Demand

Astromancer wrote:
> Stupid numbers...probably not figuring out who the target audience is and, 
> therefore, they take it out on the fans...
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  I posted an e-mail the day the show was 
> returning, then posted a follow up asking if anyone here was watching. Only 
> one reply, and that was from Gymfig, who doesn't watch the show at all. Is 
> anyone here watching it?
>
> I also have to repeat my complaint at CBS' not showing the entire series 
> again in the weeks leading up to the return. That irritates me. I watched the 
> whole series, but missed the last three eps and didn't want to watch them on 
> my laptop. I was waiting and waiting, just *knowing* that CBS would rerun the 
> series again, in order to build up more interest. But they didn't. I guess 
> they were too busy selling it to SciFi. I don't get that strategy. ABC did 
> the same thing with "Lost", which is maddening.
>
> Too bad. Maybe my fantasy billionaire will pick up the show! :)
>
> -- Original message -- 
> From: "Justin Mohareb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> Nuts.
>
> JJ Mohareb
>
> On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 7:13 PM, Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey
> L. Minor) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>   
>> Sources: 'Jericho' To Wrap It Up
>>
>>
>> By MICHAEL HINMAN
>> Source: SyFy Portal
>> Feb-21-2008
>>
>> It looks like the "Jericho" experiment is about to come to an end.
>>
>> Sources have told SyFy Portal that CBS is gearing up to air the series
>> finale version of the post-apocalyptic series on March 25, one of two
>> endings shot that would either allow a cliffhanger going into a third
>> season, or a proper amount of closure for "Jericho" fans who fought hard
>> to force CBS to reconsider its previous decision to cancel the show.
>>
>> "There are a lot of people here who really care about what happens to
>> 'Jericho,' and I think we all wanted to see it succeed," the source, who
>> asked not to be identified, said. "Numbers are numbers, and [CBS] had to
>> do what [CBS] had to do."
>>
>> Ratings for the first two episodes were well below even some of the
>> worst numbers the show experienced at the end of the first season which
>> helped prompt network officials to move toward cancellation. Although it
>> is competing in a post-"American Idol" scheduling environment, "Jericho"
>> struggled to compete with shows that were either in reruns, or not part
>> of mainstream viewing habits.
>>
>> At the same time, audiences in key demographics of 18 to 49 -- a demo
>> that isn't typically attracted to CBS for many of its other programmings
>> -- were noticeably absent from the first pair of viewings from the show,
>> and there is little chance they'll suddenly return in the coming weeks.
>>
>> But the decision isn't quite final yet ... network executives still have
>> room to change their mind.
>>
>> "If the audience can come back to the show in the next two episodes, and
>> I mean a lot, [CBS] may reconsider," the source said. "Fans definitely
>> have a say, and they had a say last summer [with the 'Nuts to Jericho'
>> campaign], but I think the final decision this time is going to come
>> down to hard numbers, and they're just not there for 'Jericho.'"
>>
>> Please note that none of this has been confirmed by CBS, and should be
>> treated as any rumor would.
>>
>> "Jericho" airs Tuesdays at 10 p.m. ET on CBS.
>>
>> http://www.syfyportal.com/news424744.html
>>
>>
>>
>> 
>
>   


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[scifinoir2] Star Trek/Brokeback Mountain Mashup

[KeithBJohnson]

That was hilarious! 

My gosh that was funny! I 'bout busted a gut when Shatner said "I don't want to 
take him back. He's like an animal" (speaking of his "evil" half in "The Enemy 
Within"), or when Spock is lying on the sickbay bed screaming "harder!" (from 
"A Private Little War") 

Great stuff! Didja catch what eps they lifted the scenes from? It was 
relatively easy for me to tell: they mostly pulled from "Where No Man has Gone 
Before", "The Enemy Within", "Amok Time" (they replaced the knife Spock was 
holding behind his back with some CGI roses), "This Side of Paradise", "The 
Naked Time", "Journey to Babel",  "Bread and Circuses", "The Alternative 
Factor", "Elaan of Troyus", "City on the Edge of Forever" (voice of Shatner 
saying "I'm beginning to think I'm in love with..." and they replaced Edith 
with "Spock"), "Miri", "A Private Little War", and "Operation: Annhilate"

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Re: [scifinoir2] It's Over for Jericho

[KeithBJohnson]

i don't get why your Comcast On Demand is so much more robust than mine here in 
Atlanta. I can't get anything meaningful from "Boomerang" (Justice League, for 
example), Nick ("Avatar") or any of the other channels. The things you can get 
On Demand, i've had to get by paying for a more expensive package

-- Original message -- 
From: "Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
I've have started watching on Comcast on Demand

Astromancer wrote:
> Stupid numbers...probably not figuring out who the target audience is and, 
> therefore, they take it out on the fans...
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I posted an e-mail the day the show was returning, 
> then posted a follow up asking if anyone here was watching. Only one reply, 
> and that was from Gymfig, who doesn't watch the show at all. Is anyone here 
> watching it?
>
> I also have to repeat my complaint at CBS' not showing the entire series 
> again in the weeks leading up to the return. That irritates me. I watched the 
> whole series, but missed the last three eps and didn't want to watch them on 
> my laptop. I was waiting and waiting, just *knowing* that CBS would rerun the 
> series again, in order to build up more interest. But they didn't. I guess 
> they were too busy selling it to SciFi. I don't get that strategy. ABC did 
> the same thing with "Lost", which is maddening.
>
> Too bad. Maybe my fantasy billionaire will pick up the show! :)
>
> -- Original message -- 
> From: "Justin Mohareb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> Nuts.
>
> JJ Mohareb
>
> On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 7:13 PM, Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey
> L. Minor) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
>> Sources: 'Jericho' To Wrap It Up
>>
>>
>> By MICHAEL HINMAN
>> Source: SyFy Portal
>> Feb-21-2008
>>
>> It looks like the "Jericho" experiment is about to come to an end.
>>
>> Sources have told SyFy Portal that CBS is gearing up to air the series
>> finale version of the post-apocalyptic series on March 25, one of two
>> endings shot that would either allow a cliffhanger going into a third
>> season, or a proper amount of closure for "Jericho" fans who fought hard
>> to force CBS to reconsider its previous decision to cancel the show.
>>
>> "There are a lot of people here who really care about what happens to
>> 'Jericho,' and I think we all wanted to see it succeed," the source, who
>> asked not to be identified, said. "Numbers are numbers, and [CBS] had to
>> do what [CBS] had to do."
>>
>> Ratings for the first two episodes were well below even some of the
>> worst numbers the show experienced at the end of the first season which
>> helped prompt network officials to move toward cancellation. Although it
>> is competing in a post-"American Idol" scheduling environment, "Jericho"
>> struggled to compete with shows that were either in reruns, or not part
>> of mainstream viewing habits.
>>
>> At the same time, audiences in key demographics of 18 to 49 -- a demo
>> that isn't typically attracted to CBS for many of its other programmings
>> -- were noticeably absent from the first pair of viewings from the show,
>> and there is little chance they'll suddenly return in the coming weeks.
>>
>> But the decision isn't quite final yet ... network executives still have
>> room to change their mind.
>>
>> "If the audience can come back to the show in the next two episodes, and
>> I mean a lot, [CBS] may reconsider," the source said. "Fans definitely
>> have a say, and they had a say last summer [with the 'Nuts to Jericho'
>> campaign], but I think the final decision this time is going to come
>> down to hard numbers, and they're just not there for 'Jericho.'"
>>
>> Please note that none of this has been confirmed by CBS, and should be
>> treated as any rumor would.
>>
>> "Jericho" airs Tuesdays at 10 p.m. ET on CBS.
>>
>> http://www.syfyportal.com/news424744.html
>>
>>
>>
>> 
>
> 

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Re: [scifinoir2] It's Over for Jericho

[Astromancer]

Pleasedon't mention the 'C' word...(spit! spit! spit!)

"Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  
I've have started watching on Comcast on Demand

Astromancer wrote:
> Stupid numbers...probably not figuring out who the target audience is and, 
> therefore, they take it out on the fans...
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I posted an e-mail the day the show was returning, 
> then posted a follow up asking if anyone here was watching. Only one reply, 
> and that was from Gymfig, who doesn't watch the show at all. Is anyone here 
> watching it?
>
> I also have to repeat my complaint at CBS' not showing the entire series 
> again in the weeks leading up to the return. That irritates me. I watched the 
> whole series, but missed the last three eps and didn't want to watch them on 
> my laptop. I was waiting and waiting, just *knowing* that CBS would rerun the 
> series again, in order to build up more interest. But they didn't. I guess 
> they were too busy selling it to SciFi. I don't get that strategy. ABC did 
> the same thing with "Lost", which is maddening.
>
> Too bad. Maybe my fantasy billionaire will pick up the show! :)
>
> -- Original message -- 
> From: "Justin Mohareb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> Nuts.
>
> JJ Mohareb
>
> On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 7:13 PM, Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey
> L. Minor) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
>> Sources: 'Jericho' To Wrap It Up
>>
>>
>> By MICHAEL HINMAN
>> Source: SyFy Portal
>> Feb-21-2008
>>
>> It looks like the "Jericho" experiment is about to come to an end.
>>
>> Sources have told SyFy Portal that CBS is gearing up to air the series
>> finale version of the post-apocalyptic series on March 25, one of two
>> endings shot that would either allow a cliffhanger going into a third
>> season, or a proper amount of closure for "Jericho" fans who fought hard
>> to force CBS to reconsider its previous decision to cancel the show.
>>
>> "There are a lot of people here who really care about what happens to
>> 'Jericho,' and I think we all wanted to see it succeed," the source, who
>> asked not to be identified, said. "Numbers are numbers, and [CBS] had to
>> do what [CBS] had to do."
>>
>> Ratings for the first two episodes were well below even some of the
>> worst numbers the show experienced at the end of the first season which
>> helped prompt network officials to move toward cancellation. Although it
>> is competing in a post-"American Idol" scheduling environment, "Jericho"
>> struggled to compete with shows that were either in reruns, or not part
>> of mainstream viewing habits.
>>
>> At the same time, audiences in key demographics of 18 to 49 -- a demo
>> that isn't typically attracted to CBS for many of its other programmings
>> -- were noticeably absent from the first pair of viewings from the show,
>> and there is little chance they'll suddenly return in the coming weeks.
>>
>> But the decision isn't quite final yet ... network executives still have
>> room to change their mind.
>>
>> "If the audience can come back to the show in the next two episodes, and
>> I mean a lot, [CBS] may reconsider," the source said. "Fans definitely
>> have a say, and they had a say last summer [with the 'Nuts to Jericho'
>> campaign], but I think the final decision this time is going to come
>> down to hard numbers, and they're just not there for 'Jericho.'"
>>
>> Please note that none of this has been confirmed by CBS, and should be
>> treated as any rumor would.
>>
>> "Jericho" airs Tuesdays at 10 p.m. ET on CBS.
>>
>> http://www.syfyportal.com/news424744.html
>>
>>
>>
>> 
>
> 

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Re: [scifinoir2] It's Over for Jericho

[Astromancer]

(Spit! spit!spit!)

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  i don't get why your Comcast On Demand is so 
much more robust than mine here in Atlanta. I can't get anything meaningful 
from "Boomerang" (Justice League, for example), Nick ("Avatar") or any of the 
other channels. The things you can get On Demand, i've had to get by paying for 
a more expensive package

-- Original message -- 
From: "Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
I've have started watching on Comcast on Demand

Astromancer wrote:
> Stupid numbers...probably not figuring out who the target audience is and, 
> therefore, they take it out on the fans...
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I posted an e-mail the day the show was returning, 
> then posted a follow up asking if anyone here was watching. Only one reply, 
> and that was from Gymfig, who doesn't watch the show at all. Is anyone here 
> watching it?
>
> I also have to repeat my complaint at CBS' not showing the entire series 
> again in the weeks leading up to the return. That irritates me. I watched the 
> whole series, but missed the last three eps and didn't want to watch them on 
> my laptop. I was waiting and waiting, just *knowing* that CBS would rerun the 
> series again, in order to build up more interest. But they didn't. I guess 
> they were too busy selling it to SciFi. I don't get that strategy. ABC did 
> the same thing with "Lost", which is maddening.
>
> Too bad. Maybe my fantasy billionaire will pick up the show! :)
>
> -- Original message -- 
> From: "Justin Mohareb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> Nuts.
>
> JJ Mohareb
>
> On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 7:13 PM, Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey
> L. Minor) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
>> Sources: 'Jericho' To Wrap It Up
>>
>>
>> By MICHAEL HINMAN
>> Source: SyFy Portal
>> Feb-21-2008
>>
>> It looks like the "Jericho" experiment is about to come to an end.
>>
>> Sources have told SyFy Portal that CBS is gearing up to air the series
>> finale version of the post-apocalyptic series on March 25, one of two
>> endings shot that would either allow a cliffhanger going into a third
>> season, or a proper amount of closure for "Jericho" fans who fought hard
>> to force CBS to reconsider its previous decision to cancel the show.
>>
>> "There are a lot of people here who really care about what happens to
>> 'Jericho,' and I think we all wanted to see it succeed," the source, who
>> asked not to be identified, said. "Numbers are numbers, and [CBS] had to
>> do what [CBS] had to do."
>>
>> Ratings for the first two episodes were well below even some of the
>> worst numbers the show experienced at the end of the first season which
>> helped prompt network officials to move toward cancellation. Although it
>> is competing in a post-"American Idol" scheduling environment, "Jericho"
>> struggled to compete with shows that were either in reruns, or not part
>> of mainstream viewing habits.
>>
>> At the same time, audiences in key demographics of 18 to 49 -- a demo
>> that isn't typically attracted to CBS for many of its other programmings
>> -- were noticeably absent from the first pair of viewings from the show,
>> and there is little chance they'll suddenly return in the coming weeks.
>>
>> But the decision isn't quite final yet ... network executives still have
>> room to change their mind.
>>
>> "If the audience can come back to the show in the next two episodes, and
>> I mean a lot, [CBS] may reconsider," the source said. "Fans definitely
>> have a say, and they had a say last summer [with the 'Nuts to Jericho'
>> campaign], but I think the final decision this time is going to come
>> down to hard numbers, and they're just not there for 'Jericho.'"
>>
>> Please note that none of this has been confirmed by CBS, and should be
>> treated as any rumor would.
>>
>> "Jericho" airs Tuesdays at 10 p.m. ET on CBS.
>>
>> http://www.syfyportal.com/news424744.html
>>
>>
>>
>> 
>
> 

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Re: [scifinoir2] Let's all become friends on Netflix

[Gerald Haynes]

You can be come my Netflix friend by clicking on the following link:
http://www.netflix.com/BeMyFriend/P6c8WDP88EkYDVUMgGLW
 
Gerald Haynes

Quotes to live by:
"Time, Money, and Quality, you may have only two."
"Never enough time to do it right. Always enough time to do it over."
"Continual improvement is always better than delayed perfection."


My comics, music & thoughts:
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- Original Message 
From: tdemorsella <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2008 12:46:37 AM
Subject: [scifinoir2] Let's all become friends on Netflix

  Earlier today, Bosco put us onto Netflix friends.  

You can be come my Netflix friend by clicking on the following link:
http://www.netflix. com/BeMyFriend/ PBZceQv3iPVDEm3v 4oWm 

Netflix Friends allows you to share movie ideas and notes with your
friends. First you invite friends to connect with you and when they
accept, they are part of your Friends list. With Netflix friends, you
can see what each of your friends think about specific movies, suggest
movies them and add comments next to films that will help your friends
choose movies or avoid those you didn't enjoy.

So lets see if those of us who get films from Netflix, can all come
together via Netflix to make recommendations to eachother, share
reviews, and who knows what.

You can be come my Netflix friend by clicking on the following link:
http://www.netflix. com/BeMyFriend/ PBZceQv3iPVDEm3v 4oWm 



  












  

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Re: [scifinoir2] It's Over for Jericho

[Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)]

You have to remember that I could barely walk or work for the longest 
time, and we just moved to the Seattle area, so I got a special rate on 
an expensive package because I could not do anything for so long.  That 
included phone, Internet and two premium channels set with movie 
channels.  Either that or the Seattle line up is more robust.   I 
definitely get more here than I got when we were in Philly.  I have to 
see if we get boomerang.  I do not even know where that is. 

The only network channel we get is CBS.  I wish we got others.  What do 
they provide with your on  your on demand line up?

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> i don't get why your Comcast On Demand is so much more robust than mine here 
> in Atlanta. I can't get anything meaningful from "Boomerang" (Justice League, 
> for example), Nick ("Avatar") or any of the other channels. The things you 
> can get On Demand, i've had to get by paying for a more expensive package
>
> -- Original message -- 
> From: "Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> I've have started watching on Comcast on Demand
>
> Astromancer wrote:
>   
>> Stupid numbers...probably not figuring out who the target audience is and, 
>> therefore, they take it out on the fans...
>>
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I posted an e-mail the day the show was returning, 
>> then posted a follow up asking if anyone here was watching. Only one reply, 
>> and that was from Gymfig, who doesn't watch the show at all. Is anyone here 
>> watching it?
>>
>> I also have to repeat my complaint at CBS' not showing the entire series 
>> again in the weeks leading up to the return. That irritates me. I watched 
>> the whole series, but missed the last three eps and didn't want to watch 
>> them on my laptop. I was waiting and waiting, just *knowing* that CBS would 
>> rerun the series again, in order to build up more interest. But they didn't. 
>> I guess they were too busy selling it to SciFi. I don't get that strategy. 
>> ABC did the same thing with "Lost", which is maddening.
>>
>> Too bad. Maybe my fantasy billionaire will pick up the show! :)
>>
>> -- Original message -- 
>> From: "Justin Mohareb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
>> Nuts.
>>
>> JJ Mohareb
>>
>> On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 7:13 PM, Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey
>> L. Minor) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> 
>>> Sources: 'Jericho' To Wrap It Up
>>>
>>>
>>> By MICHAEL HINMAN
>>> Source: SyFy Portal
>>> Feb-21-2008
>>>
>>> It looks like the "Jericho" experiment is about to come to an end.
>>>
>>> Sources have told SyFy Portal that CBS is gearing up to air the series
>>> finale version of the post-apocalyptic series on March 25, one of two
>>> endings shot that would either allow a cliffhanger going into a third
>>> season, or a proper amount of closure for "Jericho" fans who fought hard
>>> to force CBS to reconsider its previous decision to cancel the show.
>>>
>>> "There are a lot of people here who really care about what happens to
>>> 'Jericho,' and I think we all wanted to see it succeed," the source, who
>>> asked not to be identified, said. "Numbers are numbers, and [CBS] had to
>>> do what [CBS] had to do."
>>>
>>> Ratings for the first two episodes were well below even some of the
>>> worst numbers the show experienced at the end of the first season which
>>> helped prompt network officials to move toward cancellation. Although it
>>> is competing in a post-"American Idol" scheduling environment, "Jericho"
>>> struggled to compete with shows that were either in reruns, or not part
>>> of mainstream viewing habits.
>>>
>>> At the same time, audiences in key demographics of 18 to 49 -- a demo
>>> that isn't typically attracted to CBS for many of its other programmings
>>> -- were noticeably absent from the first pair of viewings from the show,
>>> and there is little chance they'll suddenly return in the coming weeks.
>>>
>>> But the decision isn't quite final yet ... network executives still have
>>> room to change their mind.
>>>
>>> "If the audience can come back to the show in the next two episodes, and
>>> I mean a lot, [CBS] may reconsider," the source said. "Fans definitely
>>> have a say, and they had a say last summer [with the 'Nuts to Jericho'
>>> campaign], but I think the final decision this time is going to come
>>> down to hard numbers, and they're just not there for 'Jericho.'"
>>>
>>> Please note that none of this has been confirmed by CBS, and should be
>>> treated as any rumor would.
>>>
>>> "Jericho" airs Tuesdays at 10 p.m. ET on CBS.
>>>
>>> http://www.syfyportal.com/news424744.html
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>   
>> 
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Re: [scifinoir2] It's Over for Jericho

[Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)]

I forgot.  I'm sorry

Astromancer wrote:
> Pleasedon't mention the 'C' word...(spit! spit! spit!)
>
> "Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>   I've have started watching on Comcast on Demand
>
> Astromancer wrote:
>   
>> Stupid numbers...probably not figuring out who the target audience is and, 
>> therefore, they take it out on the fans...
>>
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I posted an e-mail the day the show was returning, 
>> then posted a follow up asking if anyone here was watching. Only one reply, 
>> and that was from Gymfig, who doesn't watch the show at all. Is anyone here 
>> watching it?
>>
>> I also have to repeat my complaint at CBS' not showing the entire series 
>> again in the weeks leading up to the return. That irritates me. I watched 
>> the whole series, but missed the last three eps and didn't want to watch 
>> them on my laptop. I was waiting and waiting, just *knowing* that CBS would 
>> rerun the series again, in order to build up more interest. But they didn't. 
>> I guess they were too busy selling it to SciFi. I don't get that strategy. 
>> ABC did the same thing with "Lost", which is maddening.
>>
>> Too bad. Maybe my fantasy billionaire will pick up the show! :)
>>
>> -- Original message -- 
>> From: "Justin Mohareb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
>> Nuts.
>>
>> JJ Mohareb
>>
>> On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 7:13 PM, Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey
>> L. Minor) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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>>> Sources: 'Jericho' To Wrap It Up
>>>
>>>
>>> By MICHAEL HINMAN
>>> Source: SyFy Portal
>>> Feb-21-2008
>>>
>>> It looks like the "Jericho" experiment is about to come to an end.
>>>
>>> Sources have told SyFy Portal that CBS is gearing up to air the series
>>> finale version of the post-apocalyptic series on March 25, one of two
>>> endings shot that would either allow a cliffhanger going into a third
>>> season, or a proper amount of closure for "Jericho" fans who fought hard
>>> to force CBS to reconsider its previous decision to cancel the show.
>>>
>>> "There are a lot of people here who really care about what happens to
>>> 'Jericho,' and I think we all wanted to see it succeed," the source, who
>>> asked not to be identified, said. "Numbers are numbers, and [CBS] had to
>>> do what [CBS] had to do."
>>>
>>> Ratings for the first two episodes were well below even some of the
>>> worst numbers the show experienced at the end of the first season which
>>> helped prompt network officials to move toward cancellation. Although it
>>> is competing in a post-"American Idol" scheduling environment, "Jericho"
>>> struggled to compete with shows that were either in reruns, or not part
>>> of mainstream viewing habits.
>>>
>>> At the same time, audiences in key demographics of 18 to 49 -- a demo
>>> that isn't typically attracted to CBS for many of its other programmings
>>> -- were noticeably absent from the first pair of viewings from the show,
>>> and there is little chance they'll suddenly return in the coming weeks.
>>>
>>> But the decision isn't quite final yet ... network executives still have
>>> room to change their mind.
>>>
>>> "If the audience can come back to the show in the next two episodes, and
>>> I mean a lot, [CBS] may reconsider," the source said. "Fans definitely
>>> have a say, and they had a say last summer [with the 'Nuts to Jericho'
>>> campaign], but I think the final decision this time is going to come
>>> down to hard numbers, and they're just not there for 'Jericho.'"
>>>
>>> Please note that none of this has been confirmed by CBS, and should be
>>> treated as any rumor would.
>>>
>>> "Jericho" airs Tuesdays at 10 p.m. ET on CBS.
>>>
>>> http://www.syfyportal.com/news424744.html
>>>
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Re: [scifinoir2] Let's all become friends on Netflix

[Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)]

Thanks!  I just accepted

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> - Original Message 
> From: tdemorsella <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2008 12:46:37 AM
> Subject: [scifinoir2] Let's all become friends on Netflix
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Re: [scifinoir2] It's Over for Jericho

[Astromancer]

(SPIT!!!)

"Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  
You have to remember that I could barely walk or work for the longest 
time, and we just moved to the Seattle area, so I got a special rate on 
an expensive package because I could not do anything for so long. That 
included phone, Internet and two premium channels set with movie 
channels. Either that or the Seattle line up is more robust. I 
definitely get more here than I got when we were in Philly. I have to 
see if we get boomerang. I do not even know where that is. 

The only network channel we get is CBS. I wish we got others. What do 
they provide with your on your on demand line up?

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> i don't get why your Comcast On Demand is so much more robust than mine here 
> in Atlanta. I can't get anything meaningful from "Boomerang" (Justice League, 
> for example), Nick ("Avatar") or any of the other channels. The things you 
> can get On Demand, i've had to get by paying for a more expensive package
>
> -- Original message -- 
> From: "Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> I've have started watching on Comcast on Demand
>
> Astromancer wrote:
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>> Stupid numbers...probably not figuring out who the target audience is and, 
>> therefore, they take it out on the fans...
>>
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I posted an e-mail the day the show was returning, 
>> then posted a follow up asking if anyone here was watching. Only one reply, 
>> and that was from Gymfig, who doesn't watch the show at all. Is anyone here 
>> watching it?
>>
>> I also have to repeat my complaint at CBS' not showing the entire series 
>> again in the weeks leading up to the return. That irritates me. I watched 
>> the whole series, but missed the last three eps and didn't want to watch 
>> them on my laptop. I was waiting and waiting, just *knowing* that CBS would 
>> rerun the series again, in order to build up more interest. But they didn't. 
>> I guess they were too busy selling it to SciFi. I don't get that strategy. 
>> ABC did the same thing with "Lost", which is maddening.
>>
>> Too bad. Maybe my fantasy billionaire will pick up the show! :)
>>
>> -- Original message -- 
>> From: "Justin Mohareb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
>> Nuts.
>>
>> JJ Mohareb
>>
>> On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 7:13 PM, Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey
>> L. Minor) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> 
>>> Sources: 'Jericho' To Wrap It Up
>>>
>>>
>>> By MICHAEL HINMAN
>>> Source: SyFy Portal
>>> Feb-21-2008
>>>
>>> It looks like the "Jericho" experiment is about to come to an end.
>>>
>>> Sources have told SyFy Portal that CBS is gearing up to air the series
>>> finale version of the post-apocalyptic series on March 25, one of two
>>> endings shot that would either allow a cliffhanger going into a third
>>> season, or a proper amount of closure for "Jericho" fans who fought hard
>>> to force CBS to reconsider its previous decision to cancel the show.
>>>
>>> "There are a lot of people here who really care about what happens to
>>> 'Jericho,' and I think we all wanted to see it succeed," the source, who
>>> asked not to be identified, said. "Numbers are numbers, and [CBS] had to
>>> do what [CBS] had to do."
>>>
>>> Ratings for the first two episodes were well below even some of the
>>> worst numbers the show experienced at the end of the first season which
>>> helped prompt network officials to move toward cancellation. Although it
>>> is competing in a post-"American Idol" scheduling environment, "Jericho"
>>> struggled to compete with shows that were either in reruns, or not part
>>> of mainstream viewing habits.
>>>
>>> At the same time, audiences in key demographics of 18 to 49 -- a demo
>>> that isn't typically attracted to CBS for many of its other programmings
>>> -- were noticeably absent from the first pair of viewings from the show,
>>> and there is little chance they'll suddenly return in the coming weeks.
>>>
>>> But the decision isn't quite final yet ... network executives still have
>>> room to change their mind.
>>>
>>> "If the audience can come back to the show in the next two episodes, and
>>> I mean a lot, [CBS] may reconsider," the source said. "Fans definitely
>>> have a say, and they had a say last summer [with the 'Nuts to Jericho'
>>> campaign], but I think the final decision this time is going to come
>>> down to hard numbers, and they're just not there for 'Jericho.'"
>>>
>>> Please note that none of this has been confirmed by CBS, and should be
>>> treated as any rumor would.
>>>
>>> "Jericho" airs Tuesdays at 10 p.m. ET on CBS.
>>>
>>> http://www.syfyportal.com/news424744.html
>>>
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