[scifinoir2] Is there a Kill Bill 3 and 4 coming our way?
So guess what? I just peed my pants with happiness after reading this news. Thanks a LOT, Quentin Tarantino. E. Bennet Walsh, an execuive producer of KILL BILL, has said that Quentin Tarantino has forumlated the plots for two sequels and may be heading to China to film them. Vol. 3 would most likely follow the story of two members of the Crazy 88s seeking revenge against Beatrix, while Vol. 4 would focus on Vernita Green’s daughter getting battle Beatrix Kiddo’s daughter. Tarantino has talked about these sequels being real, even during the time of the release of the original films, especially the one regarding Beatrix’s and Vernita Green’s daughters. Hopefully Tarantino is able to complete some of the many projects he has going on right now, and be able to focus on some of the movies he has been mentioning to us for a long time. http://www.snarkygossip.com/2007/06/25/is-there-a-kill-bill-3-and-4-coming-our-way/
Re: [scifinoir2] Waterboarders Protest Negative Media Stereotypes - SATIRE
I loved you outrage though :) Martin wrote: A loong time ago, I remember remarking that I had a sublime gift for replying without reading subject lines. I'm going to eat a cookie now. Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:truthseeker_013%40yahoo.com wrote: Okay. Just when I thought that nothing could throw me... How in the name of Heisenberg can these people stand up and declare themselves to be part of this segment of non-society? If I ever meet one of them, my first question will be, Have you or anyone you love ever been waterboarded? (And I'll have a camera on hand to capture the facial expression that results...) Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:tdlists%40multiculturaladvantage.com wrote: November 7, 2007 Waterboarders Protest Negative Media Stereotypes Angry Torturers March on Washington Furious about what they see as negative media stereotypes about waterboarding, a group representing the nation’s waterboarders marched on Washington today. The group, which calls itself the National Association of Waterboarders and Controlled Drowners, is the largest organization of its kind, representing over 20,000 of the nation’s waterboarders. Waterboarders across the country have silently seethed for the past week as members of the Senate Judiciary Committee grilled Attorney General nominee Michael Mukasey about his views on the controversial interrogation technique. But after several days of hearing senators repeatedly denigrate the practice on national television, waterboarders “have had enough,†said Carol Foyler, executive director of the waterboarders’ group. “When senators use the words ‘controlled drowning,’ people ignore the ‘controlled’ part and focus on the ‘drowning’ part,†Ms. Foyler said. “As someone who spent years of training to become a licensed waterboarder, I’m deeply offended by this.†Braving chilly November temperatures to make their point about the media’s negative stereotyping of them, the angry torturers got some moral support when one of their most prominent advocates, Vice President Dick Cheney, emerged from his secure undisclosed location to address them. The vice president received a thunderous ovation from the crowd when he proposed that the government earmark $1.6 billion to improve the media image of waterboarding and waterboarders. “There’s nothing wrong with waterboarding that a little public relations makeover wouldn’t fix,†the vice president told the crowd. “For starters, why not call it dunking?†Elsewhere, faced with a Writers Guild strike, Paramount Pictures said it would produce the second “Transformers†film without a script, “just like the first one.†www.borowitzreport.com There is no reason Good can't triumph over Evil, if only angels will get organized along the lines of the Mafia. -Kurt Vonnegut, A Man Without A Country __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com http://mail.yahoo.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] There is no reason Good can't triumph over Evil, if only angels will get organized along the lines of the Mafia. -Kurt Vonnegut, A Man Without A Country __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com http://mail.yahoo.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [scifinoir2] Waterboarders Protest Negative Media Stereotypes - SATIRE
I will start putting them in the first line of the message. With all the scanning we do, Its an easy mistake. Daryle wrote: Gotcha! I remember when I fell for one of these -- She used to not put Satire in the subject -- and I went OFF. Man it was hilarious. Sorry to laugh at your expense, but ‹ she gotcha! On 11/8/07 3:57 PM, Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:truthseeker_013%40yahoo.com wrote: A loong time ago, I remember remarking that I had a sublime gift for replying without reading subject lines. I'm going to eat a cookie now. Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:truthseeker_013%40yahoo.com mailto:truthseeker_013%40yahoo.com wrote: Okay. Just when I thought that nothing could throw me... How in the name of Heisenberg can these people stand up and declare themselves to be part of this segment of non-society? If I ever meet one of them, my first question will be, Have you or anyone you love ever been waterboarded? (And I'll have a camera on hand to capture the facial expression that results...) Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:tdlists%40multiculturaladvantage.com mailto:tdlists%40multiculturaladvantage.com wrote: November 7, 2007 Waterboarders Protest Negative Media Stereotypes Angry Torturers March on Washington Furious about what they see as negative media stereotypes about waterboarding, a group representing the nation’s waterboarders marched on Washington today. The group, which calls itself the National Association of Waterboarders and Controlled Drowners, is the largest organization of its kind, representing over 20,000 of the nation’s waterboarders. Waterboarders across the country have silently seethed for the past week as members of the Senate Judiciary Committee grilled Attorney General nominee Michael Mukasey about his views on the controversial interrogation technique. But after several days of hearing senators repeatedly denigrate the practice on national television, waterboarders “have had enough,†said Carol Foyler, executive director of the waterboarders’ group. “When senators use the words ‘controlled drowning,’ people ignore the ‘controlled’ part and focus on the ‘drowning’ part,†Ms. Foyler said. “As someone who spent years of training to become a licensed waterboarder, I’m deeply offended by this.†Braving chilly November temperatures to make their point about the media’s negative stereotyping of them, the angry torturers got some moral support when one of their most prominent advocates, Vice President Dick Cheney, emerged from his secure undisclosed location to address them. The vice president received a thunderous ovation from the crowd when he proposed that the government earmark $1.6 billion to improve the media image of waterboarding and waterboarders. “There’s nothing wrong with waterboarding that a little public relations makeover wouldn’t fix,†the vice president told the crowd. “For starters, why not call it dunking?†Elsewhere, faced with a Writers Guild strike, Paramount Pictures said it would produce the second “Transformers†film without a script, “just like the first one.†www.borowitzreport.com There is no reason Good can't triumph over Evil, if only angels will get organized along the lines of the Mafia. -Kurt Vonnegut, A Man Without A Country __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com http://mail.yahoo.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] There is no reason Good can't triumph over Evil, if only angels will get organized along the lines of the Mafia. -Kurt Vonnegut, A Man Without A Country __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com http://mail.yahoo.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [scifinoir2] Waterboarders Protest Negative Media Stereotypes - SATIRE
It's Satire. Martin wrote: Okay. Just when I thought that nothing could throw me... How in the name of Heisenberg can these people stand up and declare themselves to be part of this segment of non-society? If I ever meet one of them, my first question will be, Have you or anyone you love ever been waterboarded? (And I'll have a camera on hand to capture the facial expression that results...) Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:tdlists%40multiculturaladvantage.com wrote: November 7, 2007 Waterboarders Protest Negative Media Stereotypes Angry Torturers March on Washington Furious about what they see as negative media stereotypes about waterboarding, a group representing the nation’s waterboarders marched on Washington today. The group, which calls itself the National Association of Waterboarders and Controlled Drowners, is the largest organization of its kind, representing over 20,000 of the nation’s waterboarders. Waterboarders across the country have silently seethed for the past week as members of the Senate Judiciary Committee grilled Attorney General nominee Michael Mukasey about his views on the controversial interrogation technique. But after several days of hearing senators repeatedly denigrate the practice on national television, waterboarders “have had enough,†said Carol Foyler, executive director of the waterboarders’ group. “When senators use the words ‘controlled drowning,’ people ignore the ‘controlled’ part and focus on the ‘drowning’ part,†Ms. Foyler said. “As someone who spent years of training to become a licensed waterboarder, I’m deeply offended by this.†Braving chilly November temperatures to make their point about the media’s negative stereotyping of them, the angry torturers got some moral support when one of their most prominent advocates, Vice President Dick Cheney, emerged from his secure undisclosed location to address them. The vice president received a thunderous ovation from the crowd when he proposed that the government earmark $1.6 billion to improve the media image of waterboarding and waterboarders. “There’s nothing wrong with waterboarding that a little public relations makeover wouldn’t fix,†the vice president told the crowd. “For starters, why not call it dunking?†Elsewhere, faced with a Writers Guild strike, Paramount Pictures said it would produce the second “Transformers†film without a script, “just like the first one.†www.borowitzreport.com There is no reason Good can't triumph over Evil, if only angels will get organized along the lines of the Mafia. -Kurt Vonnegut, A Man Without A Country __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com http://mail.yahoo.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[scifinoir2] Doctors operate on girl with eight limbs
Doctors operate on girl with eight limbs Randeep Ramesh in New Delhi Wednesday November 7, 2007 The Guardian A two-year-old girl born with four arms and four legs was yesterday undergoing surgery by a team of 40 doctors in an operation that the hospital hopes will leave her with a normal body. The girl, named Lakshmi after the four-armed Hindu goddess of wealth, suffers from ischiopagus, a rare condition which means that she is joined to a parasitic twin who stopped developing in the womb. In the womb the surviving foetus absorbs the limbs, kidneys and other organs. In Lakshmi's case, the twins are joined at the pelvis and have one head and two pairs of arms and legs. The operation, paid for by one of India's new hi-tech multi-speciality hospitals in Bangalore, is a 40-hour ordeal. Doctors said last night that Lakshmi's condition was stable. Dr Sharan Patil, the orthopaedic surgeon at Sparsh hospital, which is part of Narayana Health City, told reporters that the first incision was made at 8.45am. There were a few unexpected things but we were able to manoeuvre them satisfactorily. Things are progressing to our satisfaction and Lakshmi is stable, he said. Lakshmi was born into a poor family in a remote village in the northern state of Bihar, where locals have venerated her as an incarnation of the Hindu deity. Everybody considers her a goddess at our village, her father, Shambhu, a labourer told the Associated Press. All this expenditure has happened to make her normal. So far, everything is fine. The operation carries a substantial risk. The surgical staff have to separate not only two spines but also the two stomachs, four kidneys and two chest cavities. Doctors admit there is a 20% chance Lakshmi will not survive. The complex surgery is being carried out to remove the extraneous parts very carefully and move up all structures into Lakshmi without causing any harm, Dr Patil said. Conjoined twins occur in about one in every 200,000 births. Lakshmi's kind forms only 3% of all conjoined babies. http://www.guardian.co.uk/india/story/0,,2206422,00.html Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [scifinoir2] Strike could be a reality by Monday - so expect more reality TV
We watch survivorguy and Mars Rising. I forgot about that. They do not seem like reality shows to me. I have not seen the Deadliest Catch. I thought that was a shark catching show. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 11/7/07 1:12:45 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:tdlists%40multiculturaladvantage.com writes: At least yours are science shows. That Tornado show sounds cool. We watch survival guy sometimes and Chris just told me he sometimes watches the ice trucker show. uhh ohh I'm going down fast. :) Hey I happen to like the survival show called Survivor-the one with the canadian guy who shoots everything himself-no crew. Not Man vs Man-the one with the brit who brings along his own crew. Ice Road Truckers IMO is the History Channel's version of Deadiest Catch. I'm also am watching Mars Rising on the Science Channel which is interresting. -GTW ** See what's new at http://www.aol.com http://www.aol.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[scifinoir2] Waterboarders Protest Negative Media Stereotypes - SATIRE
November 7, 2007 Waterboarders Protest Negative Media Stereotypes Angry Torturers March on Washington Furious about what they see as negative media stereotypes about waterboarding, a group representing the nation’s waterboarders marched on Washington today. The group, which calls itself the National Association of Waterboarders and Controlled Drowners, is the largest organization of its kind, representing over 20,000 of the nation’s waterboarders. Waterboarders across the country have silently seethed for the past week as members of the Senate Judiciary Committee grilled Attorney General nominee Michael Mukasey about his views on the controversial interrogation technique. But after several days of hearing senators repeatedly denigrate the practice on national television, waterboarders “have had enough,” said Carol Foyler, executive director of the waterboarders’ group. “When senators use the words ‘controlled drowning,’ people ignore the ‘controlled’ part and focus on the ‘drowning’ part,” Ms. Foyler said. “As someone who spent years of training to become a licensed waterboarder, I’m deeply offended by this.” Braving chilly November temperatures to make their point about the media’s negative stereotyping of them, the angry torturers got some moral support when one of their most prominent advocates, Vice President Dick Cheney, emerged from his secure undisclosed location to address them. The vice president received a thunderous ovation from the crowd when he proposed that the government earmark $1.6 billion to improve the media image of waterboarding and waterboarders. “There’s nothing wrong with waterboarding that a little public relations makeover wouldn’t fix,” the vice president told the crowd. “For starters, why not call it dunking?” Elsewhere, faced with a Writers Guild strike, Paramount Pictures said it would produce the second “Transformers” film without a script, “just like the first one.” www.borowitzreport.com
Re: [scifinoir2] Strike could be a reality by Monday - so expect more reality
Watching him now. I like it too. I saw that special. I like how open he is. In this episode he is doing a scenario that he survives an airplane crash in the snowy wilderness. He had a fake injury with a sling and kept complaining about that injury When a real blizzard got rough, he rips the sling off say, this thing is comin'OFF. Good show [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And this is the reason why I like Survivorman better. He actually did a special on how the show was films (and nearly came close to dying a few times during his africa show). -GTW In a message dated 11/7/07 4:00:42 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:Brent_Wodehouse%40swiftnet.org writes: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:KeithBJohnson%40comcast.net writes: What is Mars Rising? Didn't i hear that one of those two most famous survival guys was caught cheating? http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/content_display/television/news/e3i78ed7f http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/content_display/television/news/e3i78ed7f dd05f8f5f53c3edbd23e2717ac Discovery's 'Wild' storm: Authenticity questioned By Andrew Wallenstein July 24, 2007 Discovery Channel is re-evaluating one of its most popular series, Man vs. Wild, after allegations surfaced that its survival-expert host was bunking in motels when he was supposed to be braving the great outdoors. The network issued a statement Monday in response to an investigation launched by British television network Channel 4, which carries the program under the title Born Survivor: Bear Grylls. Channel 4 confirmed that host Bear Grylls had partaken of indoor accommodations on at least two occasions when his series had depicted him spending the night in the wild. Discovery Communications has learned that isolated elements of the 'Man vs. Wild' show in some episodes were not natural to the environment, and that for health and safety concerns the crew and host received some survival assistance while in the field, the network said in a statement. The production company behind the series, Diverse Television, is cooperating with the Channel 4 investigation, which likely will address a range of allegations that called into question Wild's authenticity. In each episode of the series, Grylls is airlifted into the wilderness with only a few tools to aid in his survival, such as a flint or water bottle. A former British special forces soldier, Grylls is typically depicted as subsisting for several days without intervention or interruption while cameramen follow him offscreen. He has been stranded all over the globe, including Utah's Moab desert and the Costa Rican rain forest. But among the charges made against Grylls is that a raft he is depicted as having built himself actually was constructed and then disassembled by consultants to the show in order for the host to put it together. In another episode, Grylls happens upon what are referred to as wild horses that were said to be brought in from a trekking station. The brouhaha could become a PR nightmare for the channel, which in recent years has abandoned contrived unscripted formats in favor of the scientific explorations that first made the Discovery brand famous. Wild in particular has emerged as one of its main attractions during the past two seasons. But the company gave no indication about parting ways with the series, only making certain unspecified alterations. Moving forward, the program will be 100% transparent and all elements of the filming will be explained upfront to our viewers, Discovery said. In addition, shows that are to be repeated will be edited appropriately. Bear Grylls is a world-class adventurer and a terrific talent. A spokeswoman for Discovery declined to elaborate on what exact measures will be taken to address the concerns raised about Wild. Among the likely possibilities: a disclaimer that will precede each episode explaining that some of the events being depicted are dramatized. On July 13, Grylls spoke at the Television Critics Assn. summer press tour about production of the series but gave little hint of any shenanigans behind the scenes. At one point, he described what it was like to bed down in the wild. Often at nighttime, they will get helicoptered out, and they might have to recharge camera batteries and hand in footage, and then they leave me a little minicamera for the night stuff, and they come and rejoin me in the morning, he said. -- Original message -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:GWashin891%40aol.com In a message dated 11/7/07 1:12:45 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:tdlists%40multiculturaladvantage.com writes: At least yours are science shows. That Tornado show sounds cool. We watch survival guy sometimes and Chris just told me he sometimes watches the ice trucker show. uhh ohh
Re: [scifinoir2] [Update] Race row DNA scientist quits lab
do you hear the crickets? Martin wrote: Show of hands- who *will*? Astromancer [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:cwbadie%40yahoo.com wrote: I am so NOT going to miss him... Brent Wodehouse [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:Brent_Wodehouse%40swiftnet.org wrote: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/7062382.stm http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/7062382.stm Race row DNA scientist quits lab Last Updated: Thursday, 25 October 2007 A Nobel laureate who claimed Africans were less clever than Europeans has retired from his post at an American research institution. James Watson, 79, and the Cold Spring Harbor Laboratory in New York announced his departure on Thursday. The DNA pioneer triggered an international furore over his remarks in a British newspaper interview. In his retirement statement, Dr Watson said his decision was more than overdue because of his age. The scientist added: The circumstances in which this transfer is occurring, however, are not those which I could ever have anticipated or desired. Suspended Eduardo Mestre, chairman of the board of Cold Spring Harbor Laboratory, said in a statement: The board respects his decision to retire at this point in his career. The laboratory, based in Long Island, suspended him after his comments appeared in the Sunday Times Magazine of London on 14 October. He was quoted as saying he was inherently gloomy about the prospect of Africa because all our social policies are based on the fact that their intelligence is the same as ours - whereas all the testing says not really. He said that while he hoped everyone was equal, people who have to deal with black employees find this is not true. The Chicago-born academic also said people should not be discriminated against on the basis of race, because there are many people of colour who are very talented. Speaking engagements were cancelled in the aftermath of the interview's publication. He later apologised for the comments. Dr Watson was a joint winner in 1962 of the Nobel Prize for discovering the structure of DNA, the molecule that lies at the heart of heredity in living organisms. Let’s just saying you know more than you think, but we’re not going to help you figure it out. - The Side Street Chonicles by C.W. Badie __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com http://mail.yahoo.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] There is no reason Good can't triumph over Evil, if only angels will get organized along the lines of the Mafia. -Kurt Vonnegut, A Man Without A Country __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com http://mail.yahoo.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [scifinoir2] Re: OT: Merrill Lynch Chief to Step Down
Keith, I do not say this in jest. You are my hero. You are the exception. I'm sorry you were not rewarded for being a good manager. Tracey Martin wrote: (standing ovation) [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:KeithBJohnson%40comcast.net wrote: It's the lone sheriff in the town who stands against the bad guys with no hope, until the townspeople gain courage to join him. As long as the masses say it has to be done this way, and it's easier to go along rather than fight the system, nothing will change significantly. We'll be reading articles about the few companies like Southwest Airlines that are cool places to work, where employees are treated with respect by management, and wondering why they're the exceptions to the rules. I've seen that happen in my life. I was a supervisor of sorts with one job where the management hired a guy without consulting me because they thought he had mad IT skills. He did, but not as good as they thought (frankly they thought he would surpass me technically, but that didn't happen). At any rate, the guy was pretty nice, but once management realized he wasn't as sharp as they thought, they got mad at him. On top of that, he was the kind of worker you sometimes had to stay on to complete projects and follow up on. What they thought was a superstar turned out to be a normal guy who needed help in terms of maturity and professionalism.Worse, the more pressure he had, the more mistakes he made, the less engaged he became, he more he tended to goof off and not follow through on things. As management started riding him harder, this only got worse as he became more and more upset.(which was more raw meat to the overworking sharks who led the group then) Management got so pissed they started wanting to punish him. Asked me, for example, to make the guy come in and do upgrades on a Saturday. When I said i had a solution for him to do the upgrades during the weekday when the department in question had a cookout, I was told that wasn't the point. They wanted to make him work harder. This guy wasn't a bad person, just a young kid who came up in the new IT world, and was able to negotiate a good salary at a time when IT folks were gods. So maybe he puffed himself up a bit, but he didn't lie. At any rate, i refused to make him come in on Saturday. I said I'll never make one of my peole work on a weekend when a weekday option is viable. Needless to say that turned into a mess, but i stuck to my guns. Caused quite a bit of friction with management, who then put me on their list. In time, the employee in question left because his performance suffered under the workload, but it was a natural progression. I paid prices. I gave up the position because I couldn't handle the regime, never got a salary increase. It all hit the fan around the time my dad died, which combined almost drove me insane. But years later, the main guy who was behind this came to me and said Keith, because of the way you acted in this and other matters, i'm a better manager now. Thank you for showing me how i should be acting. Later, got to watch others above and below the position I had benefit from the changes I forced on the environment--which was bittersweet at best. But I feel good that I took a stand, and I can say to this day that I didn't let business ethics override personal morality. I try as much as humanly possible to be the same Keith on the job as I am on the street or at home, and apply the same concepts of fairness and right and wrong no matter where I am. -- Original message -- From: Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:tdlists%40multiculturaladvantage.com I've begun to think that maybe we are no different. Sigh.. [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:KeithBJohnson%40comcast.net wrote: agreed, it's just one of those why can't humans act better? things that continues to frustrate me. I have seen women and people of colour take a stand to do better, but it's often like fighting a mob. Yet, when those people get to positions of power, they sometimes have power to make changes. Small ones, perhaps, but little steps are better than none. Of course, by that time they're so indoctrinated into the system they're no different from the old white guys they were supposed to be better than. It all reminds me of the end of Animal Farm, when the hapless animals of the farm look into the house where their pig leaders are having discussions with the humans. The line is something to the effect that as the pigs and humans start laughing--obviously having come to an accord that will not benefit the poor animals who hoped for liberation--those watching couldn't really tell a difference between the pigs and the animals. I feel that way often, as women and black people backstab, exploit, cheat, and manipulate
[scifinoir2] Web Video Shops Pounce on Strike
By Daisy Whitney Online video shops from Break.com to Revision3 are launching marketing and promotional initiatives to expand their audiences during the television writers strike. Internet TV network Revision3, which produces the popular weekly Web show “Diggnation,” plans to increase the number of cross-promotions it runs for its shows within all of its programming in the coming weeks in an effort to lure views. Revision3 also will announce today that it’s inked a deal with Web video portal Pyro.TV to distribute shows, part of the current initiative to raise awareness of its online programming when consumers may be more inclined to sample new fare. “There are a lot of people out there who have watched a little YouTube and will just do more tasting,” said Jim Louderback, CEO of Revision3. The online network’s flagship weekly show, “Diggnation,” generates about 1 million views per month. Under the Pyro.TV deal, viewers will have access to select programming from Revision3 on their own personal Internet TV viewing page on the Pyro.TV video service. Viewers can watch Revision3 shows on the Pyro.TV site, on Pyro.TV's online syndication network, which includes media partners EarthLink and RCN, and via a player, which can be embedded into users’ personal pages on Facebook or MySpace. Online video site Break.com launched a contest on its site Monday, giving striking writers a chance to submit videos, with the winning video receiving $5,000. Break CEO Keith Richman said that Web video, while a central part of the disagreement between writers and producers, offers writers a chance to grow. “We understand that although we are part of an alternative distribution discussion near and dear to their hearts, we also represent a new opportunity for them,” Mr. Richman said. http://www.tvweek.com/news/2007/11/web_video_shops_pounce_on_stri.php
Re: [scifinoir2] Re: OT: Merrill Lynch Chief to Step Down
Fear of being fired, is not what scares most people from doing the right thing. Fear of being marginalized, cut off from opportunities and hitting a glass ceiling does. So, you were willing to risk your potential leadership opportunities and financial rewards in the form of raises and bonuses and most others are not so willing. I know you to some extent, and I think you had to draw the line with that position because if you did not, it would be the first step of you losing who you really are. You were right. You would have been more successful, but since stress tends to affect you physically, you would have likely faced multiple chronic illnesses. I always said Colin Powell got really sick with cancer because he sold his soul and struggled with that decision. Liberal fantasies.. I know :) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks, Tracey. That means a lot more than you think, coming from you. And Martin. It's easy to say we'll do the right thing, much harder to *do*, especially when one worries about family. I have to be honest in that i didn't think I'd get fired (though I did feel, correctly, that one way or the other my leadership position would have to go). And I have to be honest in saying that I live in a two-income family, with my wife making good money, and no children to support. All that gives me a lot more ability to act on principle than, say, a man or woman who functions as the only breadwinner for a big family. I do understand that many, many times, people are just in fear for their jobs and their livelihoods. Doing the right thing isn't always that easy, 'cause the right thing may be keeping your job to feed your children, and regrets for screwing your co-worker, but what can you do if you feel trapped? It's corny to say, perhaps, but that's why I honestly, truly believe that each of us has an obligation every day in every way to do the right thing when possible. To fight the battles big and small, that might help make life better for other people. It's like we were saying in this whole thing: as long as everyone keeps saying that's the way it is, it will never change, but every little act of courage or kindness can help. I thank God that I was raised to do what's right. I can honestly say that, had I screwed that guy around and later gotten a fat raise and promotion, I'd be ashamed of myself to this day. -- Original message -- From: Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:tdlists%40multiculturaladvantage.com Keith, I do not say this in jest. You are my hero. You are the exception. I'm sorry you were not rewarded for being a good manager. Tracey Martin wrote: (standing ovation) [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:KeithBJohnson%40comcast.net wrote: It's the lone sheriff in the town who stands against the bad guys with no hope, until the townspeople gain courage to join him. As long as the masses say it has to be done this way, and it's easier to go along rather than fight the system, nothing will change significantly. We'll be reading articles about the few companies like Southwest Airlines that are cool places to work, where employees are treated with respect by management, and wondering why they're the exceptions to the rules. I've seen that happen in my life. I was a supervisor of sorts with one job where the management hired a guy without consulting me because they thought he had mad IT skills. He did, but not as good as they thought (frankly they thought he would surpass me technically, but that didn't happen). At any rate, the guy was pretty nice, but once management realized he wasn't as sharp as they thought, they got mad at him. On top of that, he was the kind of worker you sometimes had to stay on to complete projects and follow up on. What they thought was a superstar turned out to be a normal guy who needed help in terms of maturity and professionalism.Worse, the more pressure he had, the more mistakes he made, the less engaged he became, he more he tended to goof off and not follow through on things. As management started riding him harder, this only got worse as he became more and more upset.(which was more raw meat to the overworking sharks who led the group then) Management got so pissed they started wanting to punish him. Asked me, for example, to make the guy come in and do upgrades on a Saturday. When I said i had a solution for him to do the upgrades during the weekday when the department in question had a cookout, I was told that wasn't the point. They wanted to make him work harder. This guy wasn't a bad person, just a young kid who came up in the new IT world, and was able to negotiate a good salary at a time when IT folks were gods. So maybe he puffed himself up a bit, but he didn't lie. At any rate, i refused
Re: [scifinoir2] Strike could be a reality by Monday - so expect more reality TV
At least yours are science shows. That Tornado show sounds cool. We watch survival guy sometimes and Chris just told me he sometimes watches the ice trucker show. uhh ohh I'm going down fast. :) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tracey, it's like eating ice cream or cookies or cotton candy. A little bit here and there is okay, just don't gorge on it. The line between reality TV ( a misnomer, in my opinion) and documentaries or biographies is hard to gauge. For example, I've been watching a series about tornado chasers that's captivated me. It's about this dude who builds a custom armored vehicle to chase tornadoes and has a big team of people to help him find them. the main guy is some kind of TV survival guy whose goal is to get *inside* a tornado and get 20 seconds--just 20 seconds--of film from the inside. He'll then produce a HiDef movie for the Imax world based on that inside view along with other film. The chasing is managed by a meteorologist who still has to basically guess where the twisters will appear In the early going, he guesses wrong a lot, which is funny, 'cause his computers and charts and radar readings aren't as accurate as the survival guy's gut instinct. The show is fun, the science nut in me loves twisters, the shots they get of storms even from far away spectacular. yeah, there's some of the infighting and talking-behind-the-back that's the staple of reality TV, but is this reality TV or a scientific documentary? Does it stop being a documentary when personal feelings, observations, and arguments are filmed? Don't know but I do know that at least this show is original, informative, and focused on something other than just who's gonna date Flav. So reality TV or not, I watch it. Same for another one called Ice Road Truckers. Much as I hate reality TV, I accept that there's still some interesting and enjoyable examples of it. It's just when it becomes as omnipresent as it is now that I have an issue. so enjoy our salt-N-Peppa show with no guilt. Just don't let it become a habit! :) -- Original message -- From: Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:tdlists%40multiculturaladvantage.com I hate reality tv. I erroneously thought it was a fad, and my wishes that it would go away so bad. One of my closest friend's nephew who I spend most holidays with, was up to win Trump's show, and I tracked his progress on google news. That's how much I hate it. I do not think I have seen more than five episodes. So here is my big confession. Three of those episodes, I saw in the past few weeks. I know its scripted, but I look forward to Salt n' Pepa's reunion show. I'm so ashamed. I worry about the safety of my brain cells but I can't help myself. I'm hoping it's because I was a pretend female rapper and were the real deal, so I admired their accomplishments in that male-dominated genre. Maybe I'm just feeling nostalgic. Pray for me. I do not want to become a surreality TV zombie. I'm afraid that this is the first step to crossing over to the dim side. Tracey James Landrith wrote: Grumble, grumble, losing brain cells watching reality TV, grumble, grumble. From: Brent Wodehouse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:Brent_Wodehouse%40swiftnet.org ] Sent: Friday, November 02, 2007 4:54 PM To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com Subject: [scifinoir2] Strike could be a reality by Monday - so expect more reality TV http://hollywoodinsider.ew.com/2007/11/strike-its-a-re.html http://hollywoodinsider.ew.com/2007/11/strike-its-a-re.html Strike could be a reality by Monday - so expect more reality TV Nov 2, 2007 by Lynette Rice A month ago, when Hollywood was in full hand-wringing mode over the potential of a writer's strike, a William Morris agent confidently declared that such a decision would defy logic. No reasonable professional would dare to strike in the midst of a television season, right? Wrong. Less than 12 hours after their contract expired at midnight on Oct. 31, some 2,000-plus writers assembled in the Los Angeles Convention Center to hear union leaders declare that a strike will occur; the only question now is when. Many believe the picket lines could begin forming as early as this afternoon (at least, that's what some New York-based scribes were led to believe based on an earlier meeting), but the common wisdom is that the Writers Guild of America will inform writers to start waving the placards Monday morning, unless, of course, an 11th-hour deal is hammered out over the weekend. The goal now is to recruit some of the guild's more recognizable faces to walk the picket line, though it seems unlikely the WGA will drag Conan O'Brien out in front of 30 Rock in New York
Re: [scifinoir2] Re: OT: Merrill Lynch Chief to Step Down
Might explain cheney and all hi illnesses, but he doesnot strike me as someone with a conscious [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: wise statements here. Who knows how much our soul sicknesses manifest in our physical bodies? Probably way more than we realize... -- Original message -- From: Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:tdlists%40multiculturaladvantage.com Fear of being fired, is not what scares most people from doing the right thing. Fear of being marginalized, cut off from opportunities and hitting a glass ceiling does. So, you were willing to risk your potential leadership opportunities and financial rewards in the form of raises and bonuses and most others are not so willing. I know you to some extent, and I think you had to draw the line with that position because if you did not, it would be the first step of you losing who you really are. You were right. You would have been more successful, but since stress tends to affect you physically, you would have likely faced multiple chronic illnesses. I always said Colin Powell got really sick with cancer because he sold his soul and struggled with that decision. Liberal fantasies.. I know :) [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:KeithBJohnson%40comcast.net wrote: Thanks, Tracey. That means a lot more than you think, coming from you. And Martin. It's easy to say we'll do the right thing, much harder to *do*, especially when one worries about family. I have to be honest in that i didn't think I'd get fired (though I did feel, correctly, that one way or the other my leadership position would have to go). And I have to be honest in saying that I live in a two-income family, with my wife making good money, and no children to support. All that gives me a lot more ability to act on principle than, say, a man or woman who functions as the only breadwinner for a big family. I do understand that many, many times, people are just in fear for their jobs and their livelihoods. Doing the right thing isn't always that easy, 'cause the right thing may be keeping your job to feed your children, and regrets for screwing your co-worker, but what can you do if you feel trapped? It's corny to say, perhaps, but that's why I honestly, truly believe that each of us has an obligation every day in every way to do the right thing when possible. To fight the battles big and small, that might help make life better for other people. It's like we were saying in this whole thing: as long as everyone keeps saying that's the way it is, it will never change, but every little act of courage or kindness can help. I thank God that I was raised to do what's right. I can honestly say that, had I screwed that guy around and later gotten a fat raise and promotion, I'd be ashamed of myself to this day. -- Original message -- From: Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) Keith, I do not say this in jest. You are my hero. You are the exception. I'm sorry you were not rewarded for being a good manager. Tracey Martin wrote: (standing ovation) [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:KeithBJohnson%40comcast.net wrote: It's the lone sheriff in the town who stands against the bad guys with no hope, until the townspeople gain courage to join him. As long as the masses say it has to be done this way, and it's easier to go along rather than fight the system, nothing will change significantly. We'll be reading articles about the few companies like Southwest Airlines that are cool places to work, where employees are treated with respect by management, and wondering why they're the exceptions to the rules. I've seen that happen in my life. I was a supervisor of sorts with one job where the management hired a guy without consulting me because they thought he had mad IT skills. He did, but not as good as they thought (frankly they thought he would surpass me technically, but that didn't happen). At any rate, the guy was pretty nice, but once management realized he wasn't as sharp as they thought, they got mad at him. On top of that, he was the kind of worker you sometimes had to stay on to complete projects and follow up on. What they thought was a superstar turned out to be a normal guy who needed help in terms of maturity and professionalism.Worse, the more pressure he had, the more mistakes he made, the less engaged he became, he more he tended to goof off and not follow through on things. As management started riding him harder, this only got worse as he became more and more upset.(which was more raw meat to the overworking sharks who led the group then) Management got so pissed
Re: [scifinoir2] Re: OT: Merrill Lynch Chief to Step Down
I've begun to think that maybe we are no different. Sigh.. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: agreed, it's just one of those why can't humans act better? things that continues to frustrate me. I have seen women and people of colour take a stand to do better, but it's often like fighting a mob. Yet, when those people get to positions of power, they sometimes have power to make changes. Small ones, perhaps, but little steps are better than none. Of course, by that time they're so indoctrinated into the system they're no different from the old white guys they were supposed to be better than. It all reminds me of the end of Animal Farm, when the hapless animals of the farm look into the house where their pig leaders are having discussions with the humans. The line is something to the effect that as the pigs and humans start laughing--obviously having come to an accord that will not benefit the poor animals who hoped for liberation--those watching couldn't really tell a difference between the pigs and the animals. I feel that way often, as women and black people backstab, exploit, cheat, and manipulate the system every bit as effectively as the white men who get all the blame for making corporate America a soulless place. -- Original message -- From: Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:tdlists%40multiculturaladvantage.com In many industries and professions in corporate America, if a woman behaved the way we think they would, they end up hitting a glass ceiling or transferred to head up a cost center. The Cost Center rarely leads to the very top. [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:KeithBJohnson%40comcast.net wrote: i've much the same thing myself. I never fail to be bothered and disappointed in how people of colour--and women--often end up being like the very people they planned to supplant. When i first entered corporate America, I was stunned and disappointed in how so many women execs were no better than the men. Indeed, back in the day they were often more aggressive, more cutthroat. Things are better, 'tis true, but I still feel that we've never seen the types of changes to corporate environments we (perhaps naively) expected back when Affirmative Action and Equal Employment were implemented. -- Original message -- From: Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) I saw that happened in my department. First they god rid of the CTO and replaced them with his lackey, who had a similar personality from what I could tell.. Those under him seem to follow. Different opinions were not welcome. Then they moved down the line, slashing the department left and right. Most of the survivors that I know, seem to be grandfathered in - protected by who they know. Before the change, I really liked it there. Particularly IT. We did not have for follow a lot of the company rules and they through alot of money at the department. I think I was more upset because of what he and Parsons represented. Two of the most powerful men in corporate America where Black. They made headlines everyday. In a world that tried to label us as stupid, it felt good to see that. I have not paid attention to those headlines, so I don't know if Parsons is the monster that O'Neal was, but I would not be surprised. I my opinion, most of those who make it to the very top of the most powerful companies, pretty much have to assimilate to get to the top. [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:KeithBJohnson%40comcast.net wrote: i've read stuff saying he got rid of people who weren't his parrots, that he doesn't like subordinates who'll challenge him. It's one reason, some say, why he got in this trouble, such as approaching Wachovia without the board's knowledge, which was a big no-no. so in other words, some say he's an egotistical, insecure, power hungry, selfish SOB who's not above selling even his friends down the river in order to make it. Huh, guess some of us really *have* been assimilated! -- Original message -- From: tdemorsella I managed the Intranet for the Global IT department and coordinated the managers of Intranets for 30 other divisions. Regarding the timing, it looks like they are both crashing and burning. My response is purely emotional because they have defied the lables people have put on us. Ironically, there is a lot I have read O'Neal, that is disturbing--- also right after 911 they had a massive layoff of 1/3 of the employees - I think something like 33,000 people. Before that time, there were rarely layoffs so most of the people i knew there were long time employees. Everybody did a lot get things back up
Re: [scifinoir2] Joss Whedon Returns to Fox With New Series 'Dollhouse'
As I see it, all the networks have screwed up programming policies these days. While having the distinction of setting the standard, I do not think fox is any different then say CBS, who canceled Jericho and Threshold Martin wrote: I also read a bit saying that Joss had talked Tim Minear into being a co-producer. Makes me like the prospect all the more. The bad news? This is Fox, folks. Brent Wodehouse [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:Brent_Wodehouse%40swiftnet.org wrote: http://www.tvweek.com/blogs/james-hibberd/2007/10/joss_whedon_returns_to_fox_wit.php http://www.tvweek.com/blogs/james-hibberd/2007/10/joss_whedon_returns_to_fox_wit.php Wednesday, October 31, 2007 Joss Whedon Returns to Fox With New Series 'Dollhouse' Joss Whedon, the creator of acclaimed cult favorites “Buffy the Vampire Slayer,” “Angel” and “Firefly,” is returning to Fox and reuniting with “Buffy” regular Eliza Dushku for a new action-drama called “Dollhouse.” Fox has given a seven-episode commitment to the 20th Century Fox Television project for a planned debut next year. “It deals with our darkest impulses and our best ones,” Whedon says. “It deals with all the things I like to deal with - strength, weakness, power and corruption.” “Dollhouse” stars Dushku as Echo, one of a group of secret agents living in a futuristic dorm. Each has the ability to be imprinted with custom personalities and abilities for special assignments. When they return, their newly acquired memories are wiped. The show follows Echo as she takes on a variety of assignments - some romantic, some adventurous, some uplifting, some illegal - and gains awareness of her role and confinement. The show represents a few reunions: Whedon with Fox, which aired the short-lived fan favorite “Firefly”; Whedon with Dushku, who starred in Fox’s “Nurses” pilot during the last development season as well as Fox’s 2003 series “Tru Calling”; and Whedon and Dushku with studio chairmen Gary Newman and Dana Walden, whose 20th Century Fox Television also produced his other shows. Dushku will have a producer credit on the show. Sources say she was instrumental in helping bring Whedon back to television after his three-year absence as a prime-time showrunner. Dushku, who was keen to reunite with Whedon, met him for lunch and he came up with the “Dollhouse” concept. He sold the show to Fox one week later. “The show was pretty much fully formed,” Whedon says. “I wrote a synopsis, treatment, pilot episode and six suggested future episodes. I made a poster in PhotoShop because I couldn’t sleep.” Whedon discussed the show with TelevisionWeek Wednesday evening: TVWeek: How did this idea come about? Joss Whedon: Rather suddenly. It just sort of blurted forth. I was having lunch with Eliza and she was talking about wanting to do something and I made up the show. We went to Fox and they said, Yeeeaeah! TVWeek: Buffy fans are sure to be excited, too. Whedon: If they could only see what’s in my head right now They should be. TVWeek: Every Firefly fan is going to wonder: Was there any reluctance to return to Fox? Whedon: It’s a brand new day over there. It’s a completely new bunch of people and they seem really intelligent and supportive. Walking back into the building was a little strange. But no. It was absolutely the last thing I saw coming, but absolutely the right thing to do. It’s like one of those movies where you keep waiting for somebody to fall in love with the hot girl. It was sort of meant to be. ... I mean, a network is a network. They have an agenda and it is not yours. And that’s OK, as long as you work hard to make the agendas coincide. TVWeek: So they’ll air the episodes in sequence this time? Whedon [laughs]: One can almost guarantee. TVWeek: The project sounds ambitious. Do you have the budget you’re going to need? Whedon: That was part of the offer. The network said we want to do seven and it’s a grown-up show. It’s not going to be wasteful, but it has a certain production value. When they said yes, it rang out loud and clear. TVWeek: Is there anything new with Buffy spinoff Ripper? [Whedon previously announced he’s trying to set up that show at the BBC.] Whedon: There isn’t anything new. It might become too problematic. The rights issue with Ripper becomes complicated. There are other characters in the woods. We may have to do some fancy footwork. Obviously I’m committed to [Dollhouse], but that does not mean I’m not doing Ripper. TVWeek: Just recently you were disappointed that 20th shut down the Buffy sing-along screenings. Did that make things awkward while doing the Dollhouse deal? Whedon: This is how it works. It’s a small town. The problem they ran up against was a genuine problem. It wasn’t the Disney lawyers telling preschoolers they couldn’t draw Mickey Mouse. They’re not trying to cheat anybody out of their fun. The fact of the matter is that I know they’re trying
Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Blade May be Remade without Snipes
I like Chiwetel too. Not that it is related, but I think he is extremely versatile and plays a conflicted part well. I saw him in a movie in which he was a straight transvestite and in Children of men. He was excellent in both. I also like Djimon Hounsou for the part. He does conflicted well Regarding Michael Jai White being old, wasn't Snipes in his late thirties when he started Blade? Also I do not think Chiwetel and Idris are that young. Of couse we know, they won't get picked. Instead we will probably get Tyresse and or someone like Usher or... Jessica Biel God... I hope not. Tracey, Good call on Idris Elba. He'd be a good choice. Chiwetel Ejiofor showed some good action hero cred in Serenity and he definitely has the acting chops. As far as Michael Jai White. I was thinking of his performances in Thick As Thieves, Undisputed 2 and the stuff from Kill Bill that ended up on the cutting room floor. He can do the menacing tough guy but he has a pretty good comedic touch as well and that could bring something to the role. But it's a moot point because he's over 40 and that's ancient in Hollywood years. Personally I would love to see one of the original treatments for Blade 3 get filmed. It was the one where the vampires cause the apocolypse in the future and the last free humans manage to use a form of time travel to contact present day Blade in an attempt to stop their timeline from happening. It will never be filmed but it was a great story. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: agreed. i don't see Jai White for the role. Man, here's a a concept: how about casting the net wide for the *best* actor, not the actors with some kind of name recognition? One of my greatest joys in going to the movies is seeing a completely unknown actor in a role. Usually, we're so used to saying Russell Crowe was great in that role, or Denzel Washington disappeared in that part or Charlize Theron didn't even look like herself. Afte a while, try as we might, we can never ignore the *actor* playing the role, no matter how good he/she is. But put an unknown in and it's easier to get into. The young lady who played Ray Charles' mother in Ray is a perfect example. I'd never seen or heard of her before, yet she gave what was an Oscar-worthy performance in my opinion, and it was great that I didn't come in already knowing of her. -- Original message -- From: tetsuwanatom1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com, Daryle yokozuna@ wrote: Holy Highlander! Why is it necessary to reboot this series? It¹s an ongoing story. We¹ve all seen the first one. If ³Superman² has taught us nothing else...there¹s no need to retell a story we already know. Just pick up where you left off and keep it movin¹. It's the lesson of the revolving Bruce Waynes. Every year that there was discussion of a Batman movie, the buzz generated by the question of who would play the role was worth about 10M PR dollars, and those crap movies needed all the PR they could get. A Blade reboot is newsier than continuing with a new actor (which is basically what they're doing, isn't it?). Then again, I thought Trinity was supposed to be a reboot. People mention MJ White on the Internets a lot (for a lot of movies) however he isn't all that charismatic. I like him fine, I just can't see him as a leading man. Blade as ass-kicking Wu-Shu expert comes from the movies, not the source, so we don't have to have a martial artist in the role. On 10/31/07 12:22 PM, B. Smith daikaiju66@ wrote: Blade 2 is cheesy? More cheese please. I know Snipes legal troubles and onset behavior are the main reasons he won't get to play the role again but I hate the Hollywood trend of casting for young and hot. If it was a perfect world I'd cast Michael Jai White. I imagine he's too old for Hollywood and not bankable enough but he has the perfect skillset to play Blade. I don't know if I would do a complete reboot but they may have painted themselves in a corner after the last movie. Maybe they need to have him face a non-vampiric big bad to shake things up. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com mailto:scifinoir2% 40yahoogroups.com , Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) tdlists@ wrote: Blade Remade? Franchise reboot may be in the works. by IGN Staff http://movies.ign.com/articles/830/830575p1.html http://movies.ign.com/articles/830/830575p1.html October 26, 2007 - Could there be a new, reworked version of Marvel's Blade headed to the big screen? Initially, the thought of a Blade franchise reboot sounds kind of crazy, but when you
Re: [scifinoir2] OT(sorta): AE's Bounty Hunter Show suspended
not OT :) James Landrith wrote: I was interviewed yesterday by National Enquirer reporter Darryl Wrobel for the print version of the story. He played two tapes for me that appeared to have been made on different occasions. The short of it: Chapman ordered his son to break it off with his girlfriend for fear she would hear him or other family members uttering racial slurs in casual conversation. He dangles loss of the son’s job in the family business, his home and future as consequences for continuing the relationship. Chapman claims his use of such slurs are not meant to be hurtful or racist and deployed the old “we just talk like that” defense. Later he uses the same terminology to describe his son’s girlfriend. I wanted to vomit afterward. Nasty shit. Kudos to AE for moving quickly. -- James Landrith http://www.linkedin.com/in/jlandrith http://www.linkedin.com/in/jlandrith http://apus.facebook.com/profile.php?id=134400205 http://apus.facebook.com/profile.php?id=134400205 http://www.myspace.com/jlandrith http://www.myspace.com/jlandrith http://jameslandrith.com http://jameslandrith.com http://multiracial.com http://multiracial.com From: Daryle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:yokozuna%40globalsoulmedia.com] Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2007 12:46 PM To: SciFi Noir Subject: [scifinoir2] OT(sorta): AE's Bounty Hunter Show suspended [ source: http://www.nytimes.com/2007/11/01/business/media/01dog.html?ex=1351569600 http://www.nytimes.com/2007/11/01/business/media/01dog.html?ex=1351569600 http://www.nytimes.com/2007/11/01/business/media/01dog.html?ex=1351569600e http://www.nytimes.com/2007/11/01/business/media/01dog.html?ex=1351569600e n en =8362eec01f3228c8ei=5088partner=rssnytemc=rss ] The cable channel AE has suspended production on the popular show ³Dog the Bounty Hunter² after the show¹s star, Duane Dog Chapman, was said to have been overheard expressing racist insults in two recorded phone calls. The National Enquirer, a tabloid newspaper, published on its Web site yesterday afternoon an audio tape in which it said Mr. Chapman could be heard ³directing his racist hatred at his son Tucker¹s girlfriend.² AE responded swiftly, saying in a statement last night that it ³has just learned of the story released by The National Enquirer concerning Duane Dog Chapman.² ³We take this matter very seriously,² the channel said. ³Pending an investigation, we have suspended production on the series. When the inquiry is concluded, we will take appropriate action.² Mr. Chapman is well known as a bounty hunter and bail bondsman. His AE reality show records his captures and occasional run-ins with the law. He was arrested last year on charges stemming from a capture three years ago in Mexico, but he fled to the United States. A Mexican court dismissed the charge in August. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Blade May be Remade without Snipes
That is the first thing I saw Chiwetel in. He was great. I've been hooked ever since. He dominates every role he is in. I don't wasn't Tyrese. UGH!!! I mentioned him and Biel, because that sounds like a casting choice the studio heads might make. Tracey B. Smith wrote: Dirty Pretty Things made me a Chiwetel fan. He does conflicted very well. He and Idris Elba are on in their early 30s and that's about the age Wesley Snipes was when the first Blade was filmed. Tyrese comes off way too lightweight(acting wise) to pull off these kinds of roles. The keep mentioning him as a the person to they want to play Luke Cage and I just can't see it. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com, Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I like Chiwetel too. Not that it is related, but I think he is extremely versatile and plays a conflicted part well. I saw him in a movie in which he was a straight transvestite and in Children of men. He was excellent in both. I also like Djimon Hounsou for the part. He does conflicted well Regarding Michael Jai White being old, wasn't Snipes in his late thirties when he started Blade? Also I do not think Chiwetel and Idris are that young. Of couse we know, they won't get picked. Instead we will probably get Tyresse and or someone like Usher or... Jessica Biel God... I hope not. Tracey, Good call on Idris Elba. He'd be a good choice. Chiwetel Ejiofor showed some good action hero cred in Serenity and he definitely has the acting chops. As far as Michael Jai White. I was thinking of his performances in Thick As Thieves, Undisputed 2 and the stuff from Kill Bill that ended up on the cutting room floor. He can do the menacing tough guy but he has a pretty good comedic touch as well and that could bring something to the role. But it's a moot point because he's over 40 and that's ancient in Hollywood years. Personally I would love to see one of the original treatments for Blade 3 get filmed. It was the one where the vampires cause the apocolypse in the future and the last free humans manage to use a form of time travel to contact present day Blade in an attempt to stop their timeline from happening. It will never be filmed but it was a great story. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com, KeithBJohnson@ wrote: agreed. i don't see Jai White for the role. Man, here's a a concept: how about casting the net wide for the *best* actor, not the actors with some kind of name recognition? One of my greatest joys in going to the movies is seeing a completely unknown actor in a role. Usually, we're so used to saying Russell Crowe was great in that role, or Denzel Washington disappeared in that part or Charlize Theron didn't even look like herself. Afte a while, try as we might, we can never ignore the *actor* playing the role, no matter how good he/she is. But put an unknown in and it's easier to get into. The young lady who played Ray Charles' mother in Ray is a perfect example. I'd never seen or heard of her before, yet she gave what was an Oscar-worthy performance in my opinion, and it was great that I didn't come in already knowing of her. -- Original message -- From: tetsuwanatom1 tetsuwan@ --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com, Daryle yokozuna@ wrote: Holy Highlander! Why is it necessary to reboot this series? It¹s an ongoing story. We¹ve all seen the first one. If ³Superman² has taught us nothing else...there¹s no need to retell a story we already know. Just pick up where you left off and keep it movin¹. It's the lesson of the revolving Bruce Waynes. Every year that there was discussion of a Batman movie, the buzz generated by the question of who would play the role was worth about 10M PR dollars, and those crap movies needed all the PR they could get. A Blade reboot is newsier than continuing with a new actor (which is basically what they're doing, isn't it?). Then again, I thought Trinity was supposed to be a reboot. People mention MJ White on the Internets a lot (for a lot of movies) however he isn't all that charismatic. I like him fine, I just can't see him as a leading man. Blade as ass-kicking Wu-Shu expert comes from the movies, not the source, so we don't have to have a martial artist in the role. On 10/31/07 12:22 PM, B. Smith daikaiju66@ wrote: Blade 2 is cheesy? More cheese please. I know Snipes legal troubles and onset behavior are the main reasons he won't get to play the role
Re: [scifinoir2] Re: OT: Merrill Lynch Chief to Step Down
mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com , Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I saw that happened in my department. First they god rid of the CTO and replaced them with his lackey, who had a similar personality from what I could tell.. Those under him seem to follow. Different opinions were not welcome. Then they moved down the line, slashing the department left and right. Most of the survivors that I know, seem to be grandfathered in - protected by who they know. Before the change, I really liked it there. Particularly IT. We did not have for follow a lot of the company rules and they through alot of money at the department. I think I was more upset because of what he and Parsons represented. Two of the most powerful men in corporate America where Black. They made headlines everyday. In a world that tried to label us as stupid, it felt good to see that. I have not paid attention to those headlines, so I don't know if Parsons is the monster that O'Neal was, but I would not be surprised. I my opinion, most of those who make it to the very top of the most powerful companies, pretty much have to assimilate to get to the top. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i've read stuff saying he got rid of people who weren't his parrots, that he doesn't like subordinates who'll challenge him. It's one reason, some say, why he got in this trouble, such as approaching Wachovia without the board's knowledge, which was a big no-no. so in other words, some say he's an egotistical, insecure, power hungry, selfish SOB who's not above selling even his friends down the river in order to make it. Huh, guess some of us really *have* been assimilated! -- Original message -- From: tdemorsella [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:tdlists%40multiculturaladvantage.com I managed the Intranet for the Global IT department and coordinated the managers of Intranets for 30 other divisions. Regarding the timing, it looks like they are both crashing and burning. My response is purely emotional because they have defied the lables people have put on us. Ironically, there is a lot I have read O'Neal, that is disturbing--- also right after 911 they had a massive layoff of 1/3 of the employees - I think something like 33,000 people. Before that time, there were rarely layoffs so most of the people i knew there were long time employees. Everybody did a lot get things back up and running after the 911 and to put things back in place so we could get back in the towers in NY. There were assurances about jobs-- no body believed them. But it seems like as soon as he could he did the lay off so that it would not look like he got rid of them at Christmas. In his defense, any body who took a package made out. Those who tried to take a package later did not do so well. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com, KeithBJohnson@ wrote: i agree, timing's odd, though other stuff I read bout O'Neal makes me wonder. what did you do when you were there? -- Original message -- From: Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) tdlists@ I'm not necessarily an advocate. There could be no other logical move then to get rid of him, but it kind of stings a lot that him and Parsons are being made to resign at the same time. I was there in 2000-2001. After years of self-employment, i enjoyed it. KeithBJohnson@ wrote: not to disagree or criticize, but, though he turned it around then, why the multi-billion dollar loss now? when did you work at Merrill Lynch? -- Original message -- From: Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) I worked there when he became President. With some of the headquarters in the Towers next to the 911 bombed towers the company was hemorrhaging money and the man turned it around. Its funny how short their memories are, but not surprising. Tracey KeithBJohnson@ wrote: I'm ashamed to admit I didn't know the Merrill Lynch chief was a brother?! I'd been hearing about this all morning, and just now saw his picture! And I have to be honest: when I first heard the reports, i shook my head, thinking what else is new? Another company getting caught up in too many years of questionable accounting and over-eager business practices. And when I heard this on the radio - - The Merrill
[scifinoir2] Brain stimulation sparks out-of-body experience
BOSTON (Reuters) - Electrodes implanted into the brain to treat a man with a stubborn case of ringing in the ear instead sparked an out-of-body sensation, doctors in Belgium reported on Wednesday. ADVERTISEMENT Stimulating the electrodes made the 63-year-old patient feel like he was outside his body twice, for 15 and 21 seconds, and allowed the doctors to use a PET scanner to track which parts of the brain became active during the experience. The out-of-body sensation of near-death experiences, sometimes reported by people whose hearts have stopped for a time, are regarded by some people as evidence of an afterlife. Most scientists are doubtful, especially when epilepsy, migraine headaches, and brain stimulation can mimic the sensation. A team led by Dirk De Ridder of the Antwerp University report in the New England Journal of Medicine that they were trying to cure the man of tinnitus in one ear when they stumbled onto the phenomenon. The treatment did not work. Instead, the electrodes made the man feel like he was about 50 centimeters (20 inches) behind his body and off to the left. Only a certain pattern of stimulation, involving a portion of the superior temporal gyrus, located on the right side of the brain, produced the sensation. Positron emission tomography, or PET scans, showed that other parts of the brain became active as a result, including the supramarginal gyrus, which processes information from the inner ear designed to detect head movement and position. Whether these regions are activated in patients who report disembodiment as part of a near-death experience -- and if so, how -- is a provocative but unresolved issue, they wrote. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [scifinoir2] OT(sorta): AE's Bounty Hunter Show suspended
black and Latino. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: what's the lady's racial background? -- Original message -- From: James Landrith [EMAIL PROTECTED] I was interviewed yesterday by National Enquirer reporter Darryl Wrobel for the print version of the story. He played two tapes for me that appeared to have been made on different occasions. The short of it: Chapman ordered his son to break it off with his girlfriend for fear she would hear him or other family members uttering racial slurs in casual conversation. He dangles loss of the son’s job in the family business, his home and future as consequences for continuing the relationship. Chapman claims his use of such slurs are not meant to be hurtful or racist and deployed the old “we just talk like that” defense. Later he uses the same terminology to describe his son’s girlfriend. I wanted to vomit afterward. Nasty shit. Kudos to AE for moving quickly. -- James Landrith http://www.linkedin.com/in/jlandrith http://apus.facebook.com/profile.php?id=134400205 http://www.myspace.com/jlandrith http://jameslandrith.com http://multiracial.com From: Daryle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2007 12:46 PM To: SciFi Noir Subject: [scifinoir2] OT(sorta): AE's Bounty Hunter Show suspended [ source: http://www.nytimes.com/2007/11/01/business/media/01dog.html?ex=1351569600 http://www.nytimes.com/2007/11/01/business/media/01dog.html?ex=1351569600e n en =8362eec01f3228c8ei=5088partner=rssnytemc=rss ] The cable channel AE has suspended production on the popular show ³Dog the Bounty Hunter² after the show¹s star, Duane Dog Chapman, was said to have been overheard expressing racist insults in two recorded phone calls. The National Enquirer, a tabloid newspaper, published on its Web site yesterday afternoon an audio tape in which it said Mr. Chapman could be heard ³directing his racist hatred at his son Tucker¹s girlfriend.² AE responded swiftly, saying in a statement last night that it ³has just learned of the story released by The National Enquirer concerning Duane Dog Chapman.² ³We take this matter very seriously,² the channel said. ³Pending an investigation, we have suspended production on the series. When the inquiry is concluded, we will take appropriate action.² Mr. Chapman is well known as a bounty hunter and bail bondsman. His AE reality show records his captures and occasional run-ins with the law. He was arrested last year on charges stemming from a capture three years ago in Mexico, but he fled to the United States. A Mexican court dismissed the charge in August. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [scifinoir2] Re: OT: Merrill Lynch Chief to Step Down
In many industries and professions in corporate America, if a woman behaved the way we think they would, they end up hitting a glass ceiling or transferred to head up a cost center. The Cost Center rarely leads to the very top. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i've much the same thing myself. I never fail to be bothered and disappointed in how people of colour--and women--often end up being like the very people they planned to supplant. When i first entered corporate America, I was stunned and disappointed in how so many women execs were no better than the men. Indeed, back in the day they were often more aggressive, more cutthroat. Things are better, 'tis true, but I still feel that we've never seen the types of changes to corporate environments we (perhaps naively) expected back when Affirmative Action and Equal Employment were implemented. -- Original message -- From: Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:tdlists%40multiculturaladvantage.com I saw that happened in my department. First they god rid of the CTO and replaced them with his lackey, who had a similar personality from what I could tell.. Those under him seem to follow. Different opinions were not welcome. Then they moved down the line, slashing the department left and right. Most of the survivors that I know, seem to be grandfathered in - protected by who they know. Before the change, I really liked it there. Particularly IT. We did not have for follow a lot of the company rules and they through alot of money at the department. I think I was more upset because of what he and Parsons represented. Two of the most powerful men in corporate America where Black. They made headlines everyday. In a world that tried to label us as stupid, it felt good to see that. I have not paid attention to those headlines, so I don't know if Parsons is the monster that O'Neal was, but I would not be surprised. I my opinion, most of those who make it to the very top of the most powerful companies, pretty much have to assimilate to get to the top. [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:KeithBJohnson%40comcast.net wrote: i've read stuff saying he got rid of people who weren't his parrots, that he doesn't like subordinates who'll challenge him. It's one reason, some say, why he got in this trouble, such as approaching Wachovia without the board's knowledge, which was a big no-no. so in other words, some say he's an egotistical, insecure, power hungry, selfish SOB who's not above selling even his friends down the river in order to make it. Huh, guess some of us really *have* been assimilated! -- Original message -- From: tdemorsella I managed the Intranet for the Global IT department and coordinated the managers of Intranets for 30 other divisions. Regarding the timing, it looks like they are both crashing and burning. My response is purely emotional because they have defied the lables people have put on us. Ironically, there is a lot I have read O'Neal, that is disturbing--- also right after 911 they had a massive layoff of 1/3 of the employees - I think something like 33,000 people. Before that time, there were rarely layoffs so most of the people i knew there were long time employees. Everybody did a lot get things back up and running after the 911 and to put things back in place so we could get back in the towers in NY. There were assurances about jobs-- no body believed them. But it seems like as soon as he could he did the lay off so that it would not look like he got rid of them at Christmas. In his defense, any body who took a package made out. Those who tried to take a package later did not do so well. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com , [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i agree, timing's odd, though other stuff I read bout O'Neal makes me wonder. what did you do when you were there? -- Original message -- From: Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) I'm not necessarily an advocate. There could be no other logical move then to get rid of him, but it kind of stings a lot that him and Parsons are being made to resign at the same time. I was there in 2000-2001. After years of self-employment, i enjoyed it. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: not to disagree or criticize, but, though he turned it around then, why the multi-billion dollar loss now? when did you work at Merrill Lynch? -- Original message -- From: Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) I worked there when he became President. With some of the headquarters in the Towers next to the 911 bombed towers the company was hemorrhaging money
Re: [scifinoir2] OT: Merrill Lynch Chief to Step Down
I'm not necessarily an advocate. There could be no other logical move then to get rid of him, but it kind of stings a lot that him and Parsons are being made to resign at the same time. I was there in 2000-2001. After years of self-employment, i enjoyed it. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: not to disagree or criticize, but, though he turned it around then, why the multi-billion dollar loss now? when did you work at Merrill Lynch? -- Original message -- From: Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:tdlists%40multiculturaladvantage.com I worked there when he became President. With some of the headquarters in the Towers next to the 911 bombed towers the company was hemorrhaging money and the man turned it around. Its funny how short their memories are, but not surprising. Tracey [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:KeithBJohnson%40comcast.net wrote: I'm ashamed to admit I didn't know the Merrill Lynch chief was a brother?! I'd been hearing about this all morning, and just now saw his picture! And I have to be honest: when I first heard the reports, i shook my head, thinking what else is new? Another company getting caught up in too many years of questionable accounting and over-eager business practices. And when I heard this on the radio -- The Merrill spokesman said O'Neal would not receive a severance package, but that he would have access to all the stock he received during his tenure at the company. Merrill declined to disclose how many shares O'Neal accrued. Including salary and annual bonuses, O'Neal took home $46 million in compensation in 2006. -- I thought, a Forty-six mill?! Another fat-cat executive making too much damn money, getting a platinum parachute even when he's having to leave for poor performance. Typical. And then I read he's a brother and before I know it I said to myself That's what I'm talking about! You gon' ahead bruh and get your money! If THEY can do it why can't we?! Huh, they probably trying to make you a scapegoat anyway. You didn't get your forty acres, but you got forty million dollars. My man! Sigh... guess I have a ways to go for full enlightenment! http://money.cnn.com/2007/10/30/news/companies/merrill_oneal/index.htm?postversi http://money.cnn.com/2007/10/30/news/companies/merrill_oneal/index.htm?postversi on=2007103012 ion=2007103012 O'Neal out as Merrill Lynch chief Stanley O'Neal relinquishes post amid $8 billion subprime losses; Alberto Cribiore named as interim non-executive chairman. By David Ellis, CNNMoney.com staff writer October 30 2007: 12:56 PM EDT NEW YORK (CNNMoney.com) -- After a 21-year career at Merrill Lynch Co., Stanley O'Neal stepped down Tuesday as chairman and CEO, less than one week after the firm stunned Wall Street by revealing an $8 billion loss on risky investments in subprime mortgages. Merrill (Charts, Fortune 500) shares fell 4 percent in late morning trade Tuesday on the New York Stock Exchange. The nation's largest brokerage said O'Neal, 56, would retire immediately and that board member Alberto Cribiore would take over for him as interim non-executive chairman. Merrill said both O'Neal and the board agreed that a change in leadership would help the company move forward as it attempts to overcome the $8 billion in losses it suffered last week. We would like to thank Stan for the contribution he has made leading a major transformation of Merrill Lynch into a global and diversified company with enormous potential ahead of it, Cribiore said in a prepared statement. Merrill also said that Cribiore, 59, would lead a search committee to identify and evaluate chief executive candidates from inside and outside the company. A Merrill Lynch spokesman gave no indication how long the candidate search process would take. Shake-ups on the Street In the wake of Tuesday's announcement, the board is in a difficult position. You never want to be a ship without a captain - that's essentially what they have at the moment, said Eileen Fahey, a managing director at Fitch Ratings. At the same time, Fahey said, it makes sense for the board to proceed with caution. It's better for the board to find the correct person and I believe they are looking for someone to change how Merrill operates. Among those mentioned as potential candidates are Laurence Fink, chairman and CEO of investment firm BlackRock (Charts), in which Merrill owns a 45 percent stake; John Thain, CEO of NYSE Euronext (Charts); Bob McCann, the head of Merrill's brokerage division; and Gregory Fleming, Merrill's co-president and co-chief operating officer. In the meantime, Cribiore, who has served on the board since 2003, will man the helm at Merrill. Cribiore is a managing partner of the private equity
Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Blade May be Remade without Snipes
I was thinking the same. However the third movie, in which Blade was a supporting character was cheesy. Besides Blade III, which was only a couple of years ago. However, if they did it, my vote would be for the Brother who was in Ultra Violet B. Smith wrote: Blade 2 is cheesy? More cheese please. I know Snipes legal troubles and onset behavior are the main reasons he won't get to play the role again but I hate the Hollywood trend of casting for young and hot. If it was a perfect world I'd cast Michael Jai White. I imagine he's too old for Hollywood and not bankable enough but he has the perfect skillset to play Blade. I don't know if I would do a complete reboot but they may have painted themselves in a corner after the last movie. Maybe they need to have him face a non-vampiric big bad to shake things up. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com, Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Blade Remade? Franchise reboot may be in the works. by IGN Staff http://movies.ign.com/articles/830/830575p1.html http://movies.ign.com/articles/830/830575p1.html October 26, 2007 - Could there be a new, reworked version of Marvel's Blade headed to the big screen? Initially, the thought of a Blade franchise reboot sounds kind of crazy, but when you think about it, the first film in the series is already almost 10 years old. And with the later films in the franchise becoming increasingly cheesy, maybe it's not a bad idea. The Bloody-Digusting.com website reports that just such a move is being plotted right now in Hollywood. A source for the website contends that the comic property (we assume this means Marvel and/or the creative team currently working on the comic) is pushing for the redo rather than New Line, who may or may not be involved. Marvel is currently attempting to relaunch the Hulk franchise in a similar fashion, which could have them feeling their oats and looking for other stale properties to freshen up. The Blade do-over chatter could also be fueled by the hot-as-fire vampire movie trend that just won't let up (see Underworld 3). - New Line Blade: Trinity was likely Snipes' swan song. Were there a new school version of Blade launched, Wesley Snipes would undoubtedly be replaced in the lead role. Who would you like to see fill his shoes? And what do you think of the Blade reboot whole idea in general? Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Blade May be Remade without Snipes
I was thinking that. He's ok as a supporting actor, but he can't carry a picture and I'm definitely not feeling Blade from him tetsuwanatom1 wrote: --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com, Daryle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: People mention MJ White on the Internets a lot (for a lot of movies) however he isn't all that charismatic. I like him fine, I just can't see him as a leading man. Blade as ass-kicking Wu-Shu expert comes from the movies, not the source, so we don't have to have a martial artist in the role. On 10/31/07 12:22 PM, B. Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Blade 2 is cheesy? More cheese please. I know Snipes legal troubles and onset behavior are the main reasons he won't get to play the role again but I hate the Hollywood trend of casting for young and hot. If it was a perfect world I'd cast Michael Jai White. I imagine he's too old for Hollywood and not bankable enough but he has the perfect skillset to play Blade. I don't know if I would do a complete reboot but they may have painted themselves in a corner after the last movie. Maybe they need to have him face a non-vampiric big bad to shake things up. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com mailto:scifinoir2% 40yahoogroups.com , Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) tdlists@ wrote: Blade Remade? Franchise reboot may be in the works. by IGN Staff http://movies.ign.com/articles/830/830575p1.html http://movies.ign.com/articles/830/830575p1.html October 26, 2007 - Could there be a new, reworked version of Marvel's Blade headed to the big screen? Initially, the thought of a Blade franchise reboot sounds kind of crazy, but when you think about it, the first film in the series is already almost 10 years old. And with the later films in the franchise becoming increasingly cheesy, maybe it's not a bad idea. The Bloody-Digusting.com website reports that just such a move is being plotted right now in Hollywood. A source for the website contends that the comic property (we assume this means Marvel and/or the creative team currently working on the comic) is pushing for the redo rather than New Line, who may or may not be involved. Marvel is currently attempting to relaunch the Hulk franchise in a similar fashion, which could have them feeling their oats and looking for other stale properties to freshen up. The Blade do-over chatter could also be fueled by the hot-as-fire vampire movie trend that just won't let up (see Underworld 3). - New Line Blade: Trinity was likely Snipes' swan song. Were there a new school version of Blade launched, Wesley Snipes would undoubtedly be replaced in the lead role. Who would you like to see fill his shoes? And what do you think of the Blade reboot whole idea in general? [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [scifinoir2] Re: OT: Merrill Lynch Chief to Step Down
I saw that happened in my department. First they god rid of the CTO and replaced them with his lackey, who had a similar personality from what I could tell.. Those under him seem to follow. Different opinions were not welcome. Then they moved down the line, slashing the department left and right. Most of the survivors that I know, seem to be grandfathered in - protected by who they know. Before the change, I really liked it there. Particularly IT. We did not have for follow a lot of the company rules and they through alot of money at the department. I think I was more upset because of what he and Parsons represented. Two of the most powerful men in corporate America where Black. They made headlines everyday. In a world that tried to label us as stupid, it felt good to see that. I have not paid attention to those headlines, so I don't know if Parsons is the monster that O'Neal was, but I would not be surprised.I my opinion, most of those who make it to the very top of the most powerful companies, pretty much have to assimilate to get to the top. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i've read stuff saying he got rid of people who weren't his parrots, that he doesn't like subordinates who'll challenge him. It's one reason, some say, why he got in this trouble, such as approaching Wachovia without the board's knowledge, which was a big no-no. so in other words, some say he's an egotistical, insecure, power hungry, selfish SOB who's not above selling even his friends down the river in order to make it. Huh, guess some of us really *have* been assimilated! -- Original message -- From: tdemorsella [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:tdlists%40multiculturaladvantage.com I managed the Intranet for the Global IT department and coordinated the managers of Intranets for 30 other divisions. Regarding the timing, it looks like they are both crashing and burning. My response is purely emotional because they have defied the lables people have put on us. Ironically, there is a lot I have read O'Neal, that is disturbing--- also right after 911 they had a massive layoff of 1/3 of the employees - I think something like 33,000 people. Before that time, there were rarely layoffs so most of the people i knew there were long time employees. Everybody did a lot get things back up and running after the 911 and to put things back in place so we could get back in the towers in NY. There were assurances about jobs-- no body believed them. But it seems like as soon as he could he did the lay off so that it would not look like he got rid of them at Christmas. In his defense, any body who took a package made out. Those who tried to take a package later did not do so well. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i agree, timing's odd, though other stuff I read bout O'Neal makes me wonder. what did you do when you were there? -- Original message -- From: Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'm not necessarily an advocate. There could be no other logical move then to get rid of him, but it kind of stings a lot that him and Parsons are being made to resign at the same time. I was there in 2000-2001. After years of self-employment, i enjoyed it. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: not to disagree or criticize, but, though he turned it around then, why the multi-billion dollar loss now? when did you work at Merrill Lynch? -- Original message -- From: Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) I worked there when he became President. With some of the headquarters in the Towers next to the 911 bombed towers the company was hemorrhaging money and the man turned it around. Its funny how short their memories are, but not surprising. Tracey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm ashamed to admit I didn't know the Merrill Lynch chief was a brother?! I'd been hearing about this all morning, and just now saw his picture! And I have to be honest: when I first heard the reports, i shook my head, thinking what else is new? Another company getting caught up in too many years of questionable accounting and over-eager business practices. And when I heard this on the radio -- The Merrill spokesman said O'Neal would not receive a severance package, but that he would have access to all the stock he received during his tenure at the company. Merrill declined to disclose how many shares O'Neal accrued. Including salary and annual bonuses, O'Neal took home $46 million in compensation in 2006. -- I thought, a Forty-six mill?! Another fat-cat executive making too much damn money, getting a platinum parachute even when he's having to leave for poor
[scifinoir2] He's not dead
BERLIN (Reuters) - Passengers on a German train mistook a Halloween reveler dressed up as a gore-covered zombie for a murder victim and called the police. The 24-year-old man fell into a drunken slumber on his way home from a Halloween party in Hamburg, police in the northern town of Bad Segeberg said Monday. Believing his hands and face were smeared with blood, passengers alerted police after getting no response from him. A first aid team called to the scene soon cleared up the confusion. Police told the man to remove his make-up after which he was allowed to continue his journey. Bad Segeberg is in a rural area and Halloween isn't very well known there, police spokeswoman Silke Tobies said. So people weren't expecting anyone to be dressed up in the train. http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20071029/od_nm/germany_halloween1_dc_1 Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [scifinoir2] OT: Merrill Lynch Chief to Step Down
I worked there when he became President. With some of the headquarters in the Towers next to the 911 bombed towers the company was hemorrhaging money and the man turned it around. Its funny how short their memories are, but not surprising. Tracey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm ashamed to admit I didn't know the Merrill Lynch chief was a brother?! I'd been hearing about this all morning, and just now saw his picture! And I have to be honest: when I first heard the reports, i shook my head, thinking what else is new? Another company getting caught up in too many years of questionable accounting and over-eager business practices. And when I heard this on the radio -- The Merrill spokesman said O'Neal would not receive a severance package, but that he would have access to all the stock he received during his tenure at the company. Merrill declined to disclose how many shares O'Neal accrued. Including salary and annual bonuses, O'Neal took home $46 million in compensation in 2006. -- I thought, a Forty-six mill?! Another fat-cat executive making too much damn money, getting a platinum parachute even when he's having to leave for poor performance. Typical. And then I read he's a brother and before I know it I said to myself That's what I'm talking about! You gon' ahead bruh and get your money! If THEY can do it why can't we?! Huh, they probably trying to make you a scapegoat anyway. You didn't get your forty acres, but you got forty million dollars. My man! Sigh... guess I have a ways to go for full enlightenment! http://money.cnn.com/2007/10/30/news/companies/merrill_oneal/index.htm?postversion=2007103012 http://money.cnn.com/2007/10/30/news/companies/merrill_oneal/index.htm?postversion=2007103012 O'Neal out as Merrill Lynch chief Stanley O'Neal relinquishes post amid $8 billion subprime losses; Alberto Cribiore named as interim non-executive chairman. By David Ellis, CNNMoney.com staff writer October 30 2007: 12:56 PM EDT NEW YORK (CNNMoney.com) -- After a 21-year career at Merrill Lynch Co., Stanley O'Neal stepped down Tuesday as chairman and CEO, less than one week after the firm stunned Wall Street by revealing an $8 billion loss on risky investments in subprime mortgages. Merrill (Charts, Fortune 500) shares fell 4 percent in late morning trade Tuesday on the New York Stock Exchange. The nation's largest brokerage said O'Neal, 56, would retire immediately and that board member Alberto Cribiore would take over for him as interim non-executive chairman. Merrill said both O'Neal and the board agreed that a change in leadership would help the company move forward as it attempts to overcome the $8 billion in losses it suffered last week. We would like to thank Stan for the contribution he has made leading a major transformation of Merrill Lynch into a global and diversified company with enormous potential ahead of it, Cribiore said in a prepared statement. Merrill also said that Cribiore, 59, would lead a search committee to identify and evaluate chief executive candidates from inside and outside the company. A Merrill Lynch spokesman gave no indication how long the candidate search process would take. Shake-ups on the Street In the wake of Tuesday's announcement, the board is in a difficult position. You never want to be a ship without a captain - that's essentially what they have at the moment, said Eileen Fahey, a managing director at Fitch Ratings. At the same time, Fahey said, it makes sense for the board to proceed with caution. It's better for the board to find the correct person and I believe they are looking for someone to change how Merrill operates. Among those mentioned as potential candidates are Laurence Fink, chairman and CEO of investment firm BlackRock (Charts), in which Merrill owns a 45 percent stake; John Thain, CEO of NYSE Euronext (Charts); Bob McCann, the head of Merrill's brokerage division; and Gregory Fleming, Merrill's co-president and co-chief operating officer. In the meantime, Cribiore, who has served on the board since 2003, will man the helm at Merrill. Cribiore is a managing partner of the private equity firm Brera Capital. Previously he served as a president of private equity firm Clayton Dubilier Rice. The company also deflected reports that other top execs such as Ahmass Fakahany may follow O'Neal out the door. Merrill said that Fleming and Fakahany will remain as co-presidents and chief operating officers. O'Neal's woes Last week, Merrill stunned investors and analysts when it said it took an $8 billion hit in the third quarter from bets on subprime mortgages. That announcement came only three weeks after the company had estimated that the hit would be about $4.5 billion. The larger-than-expected writedown prompted a $2.3 billion loss in the quarter and a downgrade of the firm's credit rating. O'Neal reportedly had also been in trouble
Re: [scifinoir2] OT: Police force pregnant black woman out of car and to the ground
It should be science fiction ravenadal wrote: Follow link below and play video from dash cam (cam closest to incident is conveniently not working). http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/story?id=3774390 http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/story?id=3774390 Police force pregnant woman out of her car and to the ground. (ABC News) From GMA Oct. 26, 2007 Font Size Elementary school principal Yvette Hayes will never forget the night of July 13, 2007. She was pregnant at the time and believes police jeopardized the life of her unborn child. When Hayes was pulled over in the Kansas City suburb of Independence, Mo., on Interstate 70, she thought it was a routine stop. I'm thinking they'd ask for my driver's license, she said. Video Full Video: Woman Mistreated by Cops? Instead, police drew guns on the five months' pregnant mother — whose two children were in the back seat of the car — and told her to lie on the ground. Get your hands up, one officer shouted while another ordered her to go down on to your belly. Arms out to your side! Palms up, palms up! Shocked and sobbing, all Hayes could say was, I'm pregnant. Hayes had just left a local JCPenney, where a store security guard misidentified her green Jeep as a vehicle involved in stealing cars from the parking lot. I was lying on I-70 on my belly, trucks going by at least 70 miles, Hayes said. Police Chief Responds Fred Mills, chief of the Independence Police Department, said Friday on Good Morning America that people should listen to the full audio and video of the incident before forming an opinion. As soon as the officer realized -- and you can listen to the tape and that's why it's important that you listen to all the circumstances -- as soon as the officer realized, you hear the officer say, 'She's pregnant,' Mills said. They immediately got Mrs. Hayes up off the ground. And at the very most Mrs. Hayes was on the ground for 45 seconds. Minutes after realizing their mistake, officers helped the distraught woman up. Again, listen to the demeanor of the officers, Mills said. Listen to how they talk to her. They were apologetic. They were caring. They were compassionate. Not only to Mrs. Hayes but to her children. The video camera caught the police as they tried to recover from the incident. What's your 4-year-old's name? one officer asked in an attempt to calm her. We're going to wait for you regain your composure and let you go back up to your car to your babies. They don't want to see mommy sad. The officers are then captured talking between themselves. I'll do a report on this to cover our a--, the officer said. If they got a black male suspect, they need to be sure they got a black male driver so I don't traumatize a very pregnant woman anymore and put her on the side of I-70. Video Pregnant Woman Mistreated? Mills said that there was nothing to cover up about the incident. That's a mischaracterization of what was said. You're taking an unfortunate phrase that was used out of context, he said. Hayes' supporters say the department store singled her out because of her race. Police say they followed procedure, but simply made a mistake. Hayes also says she never got an apology from JCPenney. In July, Hayes filed a lawsuit alleging that the Independence Police Department didn't release the videotape to her attorney in a timely manner. Officials released copies of the tape to Hayes' attorney July 26, nearly two weeks after the incident, according to the Jackson County Examiner/Daily Record. Missouri Sunshine law required the tape to be released less than three days after her lawyer's initial request on July 18. Independence police deny violating open records law. I don't want this to happen to anyone, she said. If you ever had guns pointed at you, it's a horrible feeling.
[scifinoir2] surge in naked sleepwalking
LONDON (Reuters) - A surge in naked sleepwalking among guests has led one of Britain's largest budget hotel groups to re-train staff to handle late-night nudity. Travelodge, which runs more than 300 business hotels in Britain, says sleepwalking rose seven-fold in the past year, and 95 percent of the somnambulants are scantily clad men. We have seen an increased number of cases over the years so it is important that our staff know how to help sleepwalking when it arises, Leigh McCarron, the chain's sleep director, said in a statement. One tip in the company's newly released sleepwalkers guide tells staff to keep towels handy at the front desk in case a customer's dignity needs preserving. The company said naked wanderers often ask receptionists such questions as Where's the bathroom?, Do you have a newspaper? or Can I check out, I'm late for work? Studies have found that sleepwalking can be brought on by stress, alcohol, eating cheese or consuming too much caffeine. It generally takes effect an hour or two after going to bed, when people are first slipping into a deep sleep. Asked Thursday why she thought 95 percent of its sleepwalkers were naked men, a Travelodge spokeswoman said: We have more men staying with us than women, so that could be a factor. http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20071026/od_nm/britain_sleepwalking_dc_2 Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [scifinoir2] 'Bionic Woman' Quickly Slipping Into Obscurity
I agree. Their attempts at a home life work against the show. regarding Alias. I think it hurt them when they kept trying to do the double dating duo with her, her sister and the guys. It took away from the intensity of the show [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i watch, but I'm not loving it. Frankly, i think the show might be better if Jamie were written full-on as a secret agent, a la Steve Austin. I'm having trouble enjoying the adventures of this young lady who runs off on missions, then comes home to hang out with her kid sister. I know the show's supposed to be about the human element, but for me, this one ain't working. She runs off to another country to do something, then runs to her sister's school to see her in a play...off on a mission to retrieve an item, then back home at a local bar to unwind. I feel like it's some combo of Bionic Woman, Felicity, and Party of Five. I literally get bored during the domestic scenes, and honestly, the missions aren't that scintillating either. They divide time between the two, to the detriment of each. Alias it's not. Everything feels incomplete and underwritten, the characters are all cardboard and dull. Isaiah Washington is wasted so far, though he shows glimpses of menace that could be interesting, but like everything else, it ends too soon. Everytime the show ends, I literally look at the clock and think that was an hour? seemed more like 30 minutes of action. The only thing I've enjoyed in the entire series is Katee Sackhoff's crazed bionic woman. -- Original message -- From: Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:tdlists%40multiculturaladvantage.com by MICHAEL HINMAN Source: Zap2it Oct-26-2007 Either there is a strong contingent of Boston Red Sox fans who have been tuning in to Bionic Woman each week, or the star of our cyborg woman is rapidly fading. Bionic Woman earned a 4.8 rating/7 share according to Fast National ratings from Nielsen Media Research, putting in not only a series low, but finishing almost last for the night (when removing The CW shows). Bionic lost a good portion of its lead-in audience from the series premiere of Phenomenon in the 8 p.m. hour, which received a 5.2/8. That show finished well behind Pushing Daisies on ABC, which finished second to the World Series with a 6.2/10, it's lowest rating of the season, but not by much. Luckily for Bionic Woman, Life did worst, but it's not clear if the shows really suffered too much from the Red Sox versus the Rockies, or if viewers simply are losing interest in the show. Although Pushing Daisies also was down, it's drop wasn't as significant, and is showing signs of stabilizing from its 6.6/11 last week, according to Zap2it. Bionic, however, fell from a 5.5/9 last week, already significantly down from its 8.4/13 premiere. Don't worry about cancellation yet. NBC hired a new showrunner earlier this week providing some indication that it's not quite ready to pull the plug just yet. NBC finished fourth for the night with a 4.9/8 while ABC was third with a 6.8/11. The night was won easily by Fox and its World Series coverage with a 10.5/17. None of this is good news for NBC, which earlier this week saw its Monday lineup hit new lows in the ratings as well. Fast Nationals usually provide a snapshot of what Americans are watching by pulling numbers from the top urban markets that includes both live viewing and same-day timeshifted viewing. A rating point generally represents more than 1.1 million households while the share indicates the percentage of televisions turned on that was tuned to the specific program. These numbers typically shift when final ratings are issued. Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [scifinoir2] Re: [OT] Berry Apologizes for Jewish Slur
There was no accent, was there? c'mon! Martin wrote: She was putting on an accent for that role? Seriously? Said Kakese Dibinga [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:drcsaid%40yahoo.com wrote: Where's my apology for her portrayal of Storm in the X-Men movies? Wheres my apology for that lame Storm accent? Said www.onceuponatimeinthecongo.com __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com http://mail.yahoo.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] There is no reason Good can't triumph over Evil, if only angels will get organized along the lines of the Mafia. -Kurt Vonnegut, A Man Without A Country __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com http://mail.yahoo.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [scifinoir2] New SciFi Show from Buffy and Farscape Scribes
I'll take if it is done right. most scifi shows we have been done before. However, if they are right, it makes all the difference. Martin wrote: Sound snice, but it's kinda been done already. Google Area 52. Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:tdlists%40multiculturaladvantage.com wrote: This could be good, I wonder how fast it will take for scifi to screw it up? Warehouse 13 Green-Lighted SCI FI Channel has given a green light to Warehouse 13, a two-hour pilot it describes as part The X-Files, part Raiders of the Lost Ark and part Moonlighting. The pilot for a one-hour drama comedy comes from Universal Media Studios and is slated to begin production in December, with an eye toward a summer 2008 premiere. After saving the life of the president, two FBI agents find themselves abruptly promoted and relocated to windswept South Dakota, to a top-secret location called Warehouse 13: a massive, secret storage facility that houses every strange artifact, mysterious relic, fantastical object and supernatural souvenir ever collected by the U.S. government over the centuries. The duo search the country for several missing objects while monitoring for reports of supernatural and paranormal activity that could indicate the presence of other objects they must retrieve. Warehouse 13 is based on a script by Rockne O'Bannon (Farscape) and Jane Espenson (Buffy the Vampire Slayer) and D. Brent Mote. Yahoo! Groups Links There is no reason Good can't triumph over Evil, if only angels will get organized along the lines of the Mafia. -Kurt Vonnegut, A Man Without A Country __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com http://mail.yahoo.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[scifinoir2] Blade May be Remade without Snipes
Blade Remade? Franchise reboot may be in the works. by IGN Staff http://movies.ign.com/articles/830/830575p1.html October 26, 2007 - Could there be a new, reworked version of Marvel's Blade headed to the big screen? Initially, the thought of a Blade franchise reboot sounds kind of crazy, but when you think about it, the first film in the series is already almost 10 years old. And with the later films in the franchise becoming increasingly cheesy, maybe it's not a bad idea. The Bloody-Digusting.com website reports that just such a move is being plotted right now in Hollywood. A source for the website contends that the comic property (we assume this means Marvel and/or the creative team currently working on the comic) is pushing for the redo rather than New Line, who may or may not be involved. Marvel is currently attempting to relaunch the Hulk franchise in a similar fashion, which could have them feeling their oats and looking for other stale properties to freshen up. The Blade do-over chatter could also be fueled by the hot-as-fire vampire movie trend that just won't let up (see Underworld 3). - New Line Blade: Trinity was likely Snipes' swan song. Were there a new school version of Blade launched, Wesley Snipes would undoubtedly be replaced in the lead role. Who would you like to see fill his shoes? And what do you think of the Blade reboot whole idea in general? Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[scifinoir2] 'Bionic Woman' Quickly Slipping Into Obscurity
by MICHAEL HINMAN Source: Zap2it Oct-26-2007 Either there is a strong contingent of Boston Red Sox fans who have been tuning in to Bionic Woman each week, or the star of our cyborg woman is rapidly fading. Bionic Woman earned a 4.8 rating/7 share according to Fast National ratings from Nielsen Media Research, putting in not only a series low, but finishing almost last for the night (when removing The CW shows). Bionic lost a good portion of its lead-in audience from the series premiere of Phenomenon in the 8 p.m. hour, which received a 5.2/8. That show finished well behind Pushing Daisies on ABC, which finished second to the World Series with a 6.2/10, it's lowest rating of the season, but not by much. Luckily for Bionic Woman, Life did worst, but it's not clear if the shows really suffered too much from the Red Sox versus the Rockies, or if viewers simply are losing interest in the show. Although Pushing Daisies also was down, it's drop wasn't as significant, and is showing signs of stabilizing from its 6.6/11 last week, according to Zap2it. Bionic, however, fell from a 5.5/9 last week, already significantly down from its 8.4/13 premiere. Don't worry about cancellation yet. NBC hired a new showrunner earlier this week providing some indication that it's not quite ready to pull the plug just yet. NBC finished fourth for the night with a 4.9/8 while ABC was third with a 6.8/11. The night was won easily by Fox and its World Series coverage with a 10.5/17. None of this is good news for NBC, which earlier this week saw its Monday lineup hit new lows in the ratings as well. Fast Nationals usually provide a snapshot of what Americans are watching by pulling numbers from the top urban markets that includes both live viewing and same-day timeshifted viewing. A rating point generally represents more than 1.1 million households while the share indicates the percentage of televisions turned on that was tuned to the specific program. These numbers typically shift when final ratings are issued. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[scifinoir2] No Battlestar Season 4 Until April
No Battlestar Season 4 Until April http://tv.ign.com/articles/830/830492p1.html October 25, 2007 - The last new Battlestar Galactica episode aired in March, and fans have been eagerly awaiting its return ever since. Next month sees the airing of a special Galactica TV movie, Razor, and it has been assumed that Season 4 would then debut around January 2009. However, the LA Times now says we won't actually see Season 4 premiere until April. Today SCI FI Channel also announced that Battlestar's executive producer Ron Moore will make his directorial debut on a Season 4 episode that he has written. Said Moore, I've thought about directing for a long time and this season seemed like the time to finally take the plunge. It'll be great to be working with the BSG family of cast and crew for my first experience behind the camera, and I'm really looking forward to it. A question still unanswered is whether Battlestar's fourth and final season will all air in 2008 or if SCI FI Channel will hold the final episodes until 2009. If that occurs, it is sure to be an unpopular move with many fans, especially now that the season is premiering much later than expected. Moore tells the LA Times I'd probably prefer to see the entire thing air next year to maintain the momentum, to build excitement as it pushes to the end, not to mention it means less chance of spoilers getting out. Yesterday IGN participated in a conference call with Battlestar cast member Jamie Bamber, who said he heard that holding the final episodes until 2009 is still a possibility. Either way there will be a traditional mid-season split, complete with cliffhanger, which the show has done since Season 2. The question is whether that split will span a few weeks or many months. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [scifinoir2] Female-Centered Prison Break Spinoff Planned
ohhh... you dirty boy! Justin Mohareb wrote: Chicks in jail is my favourite kind of entertainment. And it's on Fox, too. JJ Mohareb On 10/25/07, Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] aladvantage. com mailto:tdlists%40multiculturaladvantage.com wrote: Female-Centered Prison Break Spinoff Planned Women's prison series centered around new Prison Break character. by Eric Goldman -- Read the Bitter Guide to the Bitter Guy. http://thebitterguy .livejournal. com http://thebitterguy.livejournal.com Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[scifinoir2] Afro Samurai starts a New Season
I've never seen this. Is it any good? Afro Samurai: New Season Details Creator Takashi Okazaki offers a glimpse of what's to come. by IGN Staff October 25, 2007 - Afro Samurai is coming back to American television with a new season of the popular series on Spike TV. The season will debut in 2008 and will once again feature the voice of Samuel L. Jackson at the title character. Creator Takashi Okazaki told Mainichi Daily News that Afro loses his way, gets tired of all the killing. The new season, he said, follows Afro as he finally wakes up to his destiny, which is to be the world's number one warrior. Afro will also face an alluring female warrior. Seduction and violence -- those are musts for American TV, says Okazaki. http://tv.ign.com/articles/830/830285p1.html Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [scifinoir2] Female-Centered Prison Break Spinoff Planned
That'swhat i thought. I got no interest. Maybe they are going for the women in prison fetish market. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: this a joke, right? -- Original message -- From: Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:tdlists%40multiculturaladvantage.com Female-Centered Prison Break Spinoff Planned Women's prison series centered around new Prison Break character. by Eric Goldman http://tv.ign.com/articles/829/829843p1.html http://tv.ign.com/articles/829/829843p1.html October 24, 2007 - FOX is developing a spinoff series for their hit Prison Break, says the Hollywood Reporter. The series, tentatively titled Prison Break: Cherry Hill, would center around a women's prison, and star Molly, a new character to the Prison Break universe who will be introduced later this season on the original series. Casting is currently underway for the character. If the spinoff doesn't happen, Molly will remain a part of Prison Break. [Spoiler Warning: Fans of Prison Break not wishing to know the details of Molly's introduction should look away now] According to the Reporter, Molly is an upper-middle-class wife who suffers a family tragedy caused by the Company. Wanting revenge, she seeks the Company out and ends up at the Panamanian prison Sona where this season of Prison Break is set. Molly has been mentioned as a potential love interest for Michael (Wentworth Miller) and Prison Break executive producer Matt Olmstead tells the Reporter There is an ironic similarity between Molly and Michael -- they're both emotionally banged-up, both have lost loved ones, and both want the people responsible to pay -- so they empathize with each other. Prison Break: Cherry Hill would follow Molly as she's sent to a women's prison to serve a life sentence, only to be contacted by someone inside the government who tells her some of her loved ones are still alive. Said Olmstead In a moment's time, she is transformed from an unapologetic murderer to a motivated woman who would do anything to get out of prison and be with them. Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[scifinoir2] CW Orders More Reaper
I like this show, but it is no longing as good a the premier CW Orders More Reaper Network shows sympathy for the devil with new scripts. by IGN Staff October 26, 2007 - It's not quite a full pick-up, but a lot of networks have been cautious this season in spreading the love. Rather than giving Reaper the whole back nine order that would ensure a full season, The CW has instead opted, according to the Hollywood Reporter, to order three more scripts from the writing staff. Keep in mind that these episodes might never be produced should the show be cancelled before then - but as things go, this is a good sign for Reaper fans. Elsewhere on the dial, Dirty Sexy Money has been given the same tentative show of support. The Peter Krause series is doing just well enough to get an order of additional scripts - which may or may not be a precaution against the possible writers' strike at the end of October. ABC recently gave a full season order to Private Practice and Pushing Daisies. http://tv.ign.com/articles/830/830669p1.html Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [scifinoir2] DNA Co-Discovery Retires after Racial Remarks
It is not his age. as I told someone on my women in microbiology list, he's been espousing his eugenics wisdom regarding women, Latin Americans, Africans, people with disabilities and gays for decades. This is just the first time it was on the public international stage. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thank God he's stepping down. Watson's comments reek of Aryan nonsense. I'd like to think that his age is the simple excuse for his racism, that he was raised in a time when white surety of black inferiority was a given. I'd like to think so... *** Watson Retires after Racial Remarks James D. Watson, the eminent biologist who ignited an uproar last week with remarks about the intelligence of people of African descent, retired today as chancellor of the Cold Spring Harbor Laboratory on Long Island and from its board. In a statement, he noted that, at 79, he is “overdue” to surrender leadership positions at the lab, which he joined as director in 1968 and served as president until 2003. But he said the circumstances of his resignation “are not those which I could ever have anticipated or desired.” Dr. Watson, who shared the 1962 Nobel Prize for describing the double-helix structure of DNA, and later headed the American government’s part in the international Human Genome Project, was quoted in The Times of London last week as suggesting that, overall, people of African descent are not as intelligent as people of European descent. In the ensuing uproar, he issued a statement apologizing “unreservedly” for the comments, adding “there is no scientific basis for such a belief.” But Dr. Watson, who has a reputation for making sometimes incendiary off-the-cuff remarks, did not say he had been misquoted. Within days, the Cold Spring board had relieved him of the administrative responsibilities of the chancellor’s job. In that position, a spokesman for the laboratory said, he was most involved with educational efforts and fund-raising. Rockefeller University has cancelled a lecture Dr. Watson was to have given Wednesday at a ceremony honoring him and “The Double Helix,” the book he wrote about the elucidation of DNA. “There were some members of the university community who had expressed reservations about Dr. Watson coming here to speak after the controversy over his remarks in the U.K.,” Joseph Bonner, Rockefeller’s director of communications, said today. He said that just as its president, Paul Nurse, had decided to cancel the event, Dr. Watson called to suggest the same thing. Dr. Watson will receive the prize, the Lewis Thomas Award, at another time not yet set. The university gives the prize annually to scientists whose books bridge the gap between the laboratory and the wider world. In the years after he left Harvard to direct the laboratory, Dr. Watson transformed it from a small facility into a world-class institution prominent in research on cancer, plant biology, neuroscience and computational biology, the board said in announcing his retirement. Bruce Stillman, who succeeded him as president, said today that he had created an “unparalleled” research environment at the laboratory. In his statement, Dr. Watson said the work of the Human Genome Project, an international effort which deciphered the chemical contents of human genes, had opened the door to work on many diseases, particularly illnesses such as schizophrenia and bipolar disorder, ailments he said have afflicted members of his family. He also referred to his Scots and Irish forebears, saying their lives were guided by faith in reason and social justice, “especially the need for those on top to help care for the less fortunate.” [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [scifinoir2] 'Atlantis,' 'Eureka' Get Pickups By SciFi Channel
I watched it last week and it was not as bad as usual.I get sick of the obnoxious techno guy trying to save the the day, while trying to do something that is virturally impossible, and the O'Neal wanna be guying barking at him to just get it done. They go back and forth bickering for about 1/ 3 of the show, until they both save the day with the help of their two loyal noble savages. EVERY week, the same scenario. Last week was different. If they could mix it up a little, I could watch it more. Maybe when the shook up the cast, they did so with the writers as well. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have an idea: take the money, staff, time, and resources wasted on Flash Gordon and Painkiller Jane, and put them on something really good. Something like, I don't know... The Dresden Files? I will admit I enjoy Atlantis as a bit of escapist Friday-night fare, but then I turn the channel once it's over -- Original message -- From: Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:tdlists%40multiculturaladvantage.com By MICHAEL HINMAN Source: Variety Oct-24-2007 http://www.syfyportal.com/news424345.html http://www.syfyportal.com/news424345.html Hard to imagine this going any other way with ratings the way they are. SciFi Channel has ordered a fifth full season of Stargate: Atlantis as well as a third full season of Eureka keeping intact two of the network's more popular programs. This is great news for Atlantis, which is in the middle of its first season without Stargate: SG-1 as a lead-in. And it has done well. Atlantis is drawing an average of 1.8 million viewers to its Friday 10 p.m. timeslot, according to Variety, well above the channel's average of 1.3 million total viewers. Amanda Tapping joined the cast of Atlantis this season, replacing Torri Higginson, who had played Elizabeth Weir from the show's inception. Tapping has said in the past that if the show got renewed, she would be very interested in spending her 12th year as Samantha Carter. Stargate SG-1, where her character originated, lasted for 10 seasons on Showtime and later the SciFi Channel, and is now making telemovies. 'Atlantis' truly came out from under the shadow of its sister series this year and proved that it's a hit in its own right, said Mark Stern, executive vice president of original programming for SciFi Channel. There is still no decision yet on what will happen to Flash Gordon, the lead-in show to Atlantis which is in the middle of a 22-episode order, but has not been drawing the ratings Atlantis has. SciFi Channel has tried to boost some of the viewership and introduce a more sophisticated audience to the show by showing minisodes of Battlestar Galactica during its airing, leading up to the telemovie Razor Nov. 24. SyFy Portal has reported in the past that SciFi Channel did not intend to renew the series, but executive producer Peter Hume denied that report. Stargate: Atlantis airs Fridays at 10 p.m. ET on SciFi Channel. Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [scifinoir2] 'Bionic Woman' Quickly Slipping Into Obscurity
I missed a couple of episodes. it is not doing much for me either. The sister angle is a drag on the show and as much as i liked the lead actress in Jekyll, she seems watered down on this show. They should have made Katie the star. She is the best thing about the series. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i watch, but I'm not loving it. Frankly, i think the show might be better if Jamie were written full-on as a secret agent, a la Steve Austin. I'm having trouble enjoying the adventures of this young lady who runs off on missions, then comes home to hang out with her kid sister. I know the show's supposed to be about the human element, but for me, this one ain't working. She runs off to another country to do something, then runs to her sister's school to see her in a play...off on a mission to retrieve an item, then back home at a local bar to unwind. I feel like it's some combo of Bionic Woman, Felicity, and Party of Five. I literally get bored during the domestic scenes, and honestly, the missions aren't that scintillating either. They divide time between the two, to the detriment of each. Alias it's not. Everything feels incomplete and underwritten, the characters are all cardboard and dull. Isaiah Washington is wasted so far, though he shows glimpses of menace that could be interesting, but like everything else, it ends too soon. Everytime the show ends, I literally look at the clock and think that was an hour? seemed more like 30 minutes of action. The only thing I've enjoyed in the entire series is Katee Sackhoff's crazed bionic woman. -- Original message -- From: Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:tdlists%40multiculturaladvantage.com by MICHAEL HINMAN Source: Zap2it Oct-26-2007 Either there is a strong contingent of Boston Red Sox fans who have been tuning in to Bionic Woman each week, or the star of our cyborg woman is rapidly fading. Bionic Woman earned a 4.8 rating/7 share according to Fast National ratings from Nielsen Media Research, putting in not only a series low, but finishing almost last for the night (when removing The CW shows). Bionic lost a good portion of its lead-in audience from the series premiere of Phenomenon in the 8 p.m. hour, which received a 5.2/8. That show finished well behind Pushing Daisies on ABC, which finished second to the World Series with a 6.2/10, it's lowest rating of the season, but not by much. Luckily for Bionic Woman, Life did worst, but it's not clear if the shows really suffered too much from the Red Sox versus the Rockies, or if viewers simply are losing interest in the show. Although Pushing Daisies also was down, it's drop wasn't as significant, and is showing signs of stabilizing from its 6.6/11 last week, according to Zap2it. Bionic, however, fell from a 5.5/9 last week, already significantly down from its 8.4/13 premiere. Don't worry about cancellation yet. NBC hired a new showrunner earlier this week providing some indication that it's not quite ready to pull the plug just yet. NBC finished fourth for the night with a 4.9/8 while ABC was third with a 6.8/11. The night was won easily by Fox and its World Series coverage with a 10.5/17. None of this is good news for NBC, which earlier this week saw its Monday lineup hit new lows in the ratings as well. Fast Nationals usually provide a snapshot of what Americans are watching by pulling numbers from the top urban markets that includes both live viewing and same-day timeshifted viewing. A rating point generally represents more than 1.1 million households while the share indicates the percentage of televisions turned on that was tuned to the specific program. These numbers typically shift when final ratings are issued. Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[scifinoir2] Teen jailed over fellatio freed
Georgia court overturns ruling that jailed teen for oral sex Published: Friday October 26, 2007 del.icio.us del.icio.us Print This Email This Court frees U.S. teen jailed 10 years for oral sex Matthew Bigg Reuters North American News Service Oct 26, 2007 11:32 EDT ATLANTA (Reuters) - Georgia's top court ordered the release Friday of a youth sentenced to 10 years in prison for having consensual oral sex with a 15-year-old in a case that sparked a national campaign on his behalf. In a split decision, the Georgia Supreme Court upheld the ruling of a lower court judge that the sentence for Genarlow Wilson, who was 17 at the time, constituted cruel and unusual punishment banned under the U.S. Constitution. Although society has a significant interest in protecting children from premature sexual activity, we must acknowledge that Wilson's crime does not rise to the level of culpability of adults who prey on children, Chief Justice Leah Ward Sears wrote in a 4-3 majority opinion. For the law to punish Wilson as it would an adult, with the extraordinarily harsh punishment of 10 years in prison without the possibility of probation or parole, appears to be grossly disproportionate to his crime, the opinion said. Wilson was convicted in 2005 of aggravated child molestation after he had oral sex at a New Year's Eve party in a hotel in Georgia. The act was captured on home video. He was sentenced to a mandatory 10 years in prison without parole. But in 2006 the law was changed to make a crime such as Wilson's a misdemeanor punishable with a maximum one-year sentence and no entry into the child sex registry. The case sparked legal challenges and a campaign led by civil rights leaders including Al Sharpton and Joseph Lowery who argued that, while Wilson's deed was wrong, the sentence was excessive, especially given that the law had been changed. They also argued that the sentence would ruin the life of a teenager who had a good school record, was an athlete on his high school football team and had no criminal record. It's a banner day for Georgia because clearly this was a miscarriage of justice ... This time the state has come through with flying colors, Lowery said in an interview. Prosecutors need to be more just and sensitive, less ambitious in their decisions, he said. In a dissenting opinion, Justice George Carley said that when the 2006 law was passed the Georgia legislature said that it should not be applied retroactively. Source: Reuters North American News Service Additional links from Reuters North American News Service Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[scifinoir2] New SciFi Show from Buffy and Farscape Scribes
This could be good, I wonder how fast it will take for scifi to screw it up? Warehouse 13 Green-Lighted SCI FI Channel has given a green light to Warehouse 13, a two-hour pilot it describes as part The X-Files, part Raiders of the Lost Ark and part Moonlighting. The pilot for a one-hour drama comedy comes from Universal Media Studios and is slated to begin production in December, with an eye toward a summer 2008 premiere. After saving the life of the president, two FBI agents find themselves abruptly promoted and relocated to windswept South Dakota, to a top-secret location called Warehouse 13: a massive, secret storage facility that houses every strange artifact, mysterious relic, fantastical object and supernatural souvenir ever collected by the U.S. government over the centuries. The duo search the country for several missing objects while monitoring for reports of supernatural and paranormal activity that could indicate the presence of other objects they must retrieve. Warehouse 13 is based on a script by Rockne O'Bannon (Farscape) and Jane Espenson (Buffy the Vampire Slayer) and D. Brent Mote. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Fallen Heroes: ( Heroes Season 2) Grade C+
As bad as those two back stories are, I think the toxic twins crying every week are worse. Daryle wrote: Great idea! If DL comes back as a super-villain, and hence a star of the show, there will be no stopping this show. It will have been worth sitting through half a season of fluff if that’s how it plays out. I’m curious, why did everybody hate the Hiro-back-in-time segment of this season so much? Considering how much we had to sit through for Micah’s mom’s back-story in season 1, this has been pretty mild. On 10/24/07 8:36 AM, Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:truthseeker_013%40yahoo.com wrote: I don't think he's dead either, Tracey. My thinking is that he's been imprisoned inside the coffin he was buried in, that the coffin is specially made to negate his phasing ability. If I'm right, when he comes out, I could see him being a bad guy in the interests of getback. Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:tdlists%40multiculturaladvantage.com mailto:tdlists%40multiculturaladvantage.com wrote: I read somewhere that he might not be dead and that he was returning as a bad guy. Don't know how true that is. The show is meandering so much, I can not tell [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:KeithBJohnson%40comcast.net mailto:KeithBJohnson%40comcast.net wrote: i'm still reeling that they killed off the Brother from last season... -- Original message -- From: B. Smith This is what I said on another forum about the Heroes version of my hometown, New Orleans. And the winner for worst New Orleans depiction ever: Heroes. Apparently they thought LA could stand in for New Orleans with no modifications. Fool? No one in New Orleans says fool as in break yourself fool! Where the hell did that come from? 1991 California? The accents make K-Ville cound pitch perfect. Where was that white chick supposed to be from? The Missiissippi or Alabama Gulf Coast? And how in the post-Katrina world how could they not know that Louisiana doesn't have counties? It's called a parish. The latest episode just got worse. The architecture and sets are so wrong, the police uniforms are nowhere near right, the accents (the horror, the horror), kids playing double dutch a place that looked more New York than New Orleans and on and on. I do like Micah's cousin aka the Taskmistress. She has a cool powerset. Hopefully we get more of her and less diversions into ancient Japan. That is such a convoluted mess. That was a nice swerve with Parkman's dad. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com , Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) wrote: I agree totally. The thrill is gone. and to make matters worse, every week they bring out even more characters. its so disappointing. I keep hoping it gets better. my husband stopped watching totally. They are really blowing it ravenadal wrote: Heroes (Heroes (Season 2)) C+ FALLEN HEROES Here's hoping NBC's drama can rescue itself from a diabolical sophomore slump By Gillian Flynn This week on Heroes: Claire (Hayden Panettiere) continues to marvel at the same powers of regeneration she's always had! Hiro (Masi Oka) does cute things in feudal Japan! And after a journey of approximately 42 million miles from one vague part of Central America to another vague part of Central America, our new, haplessly murderous hero Maya (The Sopranos' Dania Ramirez) is still blubbering for her twin brother (Shalim Ortiz) and bleeding black goo from her eyes! Wait, which week is this? Every week. NBC's once-inventive series is in a creative sinkhole. Frenetic but bizarrely repetitive, the drama bores from myriad worldwide locales that all look like the backlot of M*A*S*H. Season 2 sees previous standout heroes †unkillable Claire, time-freezing Hiro †gone solo in their own painful, stagnant story lines. Claire is living undercover in California, her now saintlike dad (Jack Coleman) repeatedly warning her not to be interesting. Mission accomplished! Claire's been saddled with a laser-eyed beau (Rocket Science's Nicholas D'Agosto) who also has powers †he can fly, with the aid of mediocre special effects. (The writers think we should be dazzled by this ''flying'' business, forgetting that people took to the air repeatedly last season.) In an even more labored plot, Hiro has landed in 17th-century Japan, where he finds his idol, the samurai Kensei (Alias' David Anders), and falls in love with an anachronistically spunky heroine (a must in the time-travel genre). That's right, Hiro †the most neutered TV character since Screech †is remaining in feudal Japan to ogle a babe
Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Fallen Heroes: ( Heroes Season 2) Grade C+
Actually, that is what I thought was going to happen. I'm shocked at this detour. So far it seems pointless B. Smith wrote: No arguement from me. All three are tedious. I would have loved if Kensei had actually been killed and Hiro took up the mantle. That would have been more interesting to me than the superhero Shogun knockoff we got. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com, Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As bad as those two back stories are, I think the toxic twins crying every week are worse. Daryle wrote: Great idea! If DL comes back as a super-villain, and hence a star of the show, there will be no stopping this show. It will have been worth sitting through half a season of fluff if that’s how it plays out. I’m curious, why did everybody hate the Hiro-back-in-time segment of this season so much? Considering how much we had to sit through for Micah’s mom’s back-story in season 1, this has been pretty mild. On 10/24/07 8:36 AM, Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:truthseeker_013%40yahoo.com wrote: I don't think he's dead either, Tracey. My thinking is that he's been imprisoned inside the coffin he was buried in, that the coffin is specially made to negate his phasing ability. If I'm right, when he comes out, I could see him being a bad guy in the interests of getback. Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:tdlists%40multiculturaladvantage.com mailto:tdlists%40multiculturaladvantage.com wrote: I read somewhere that he might not be dead and that he was returning as a bad guy. Don't know how true that is. The show is meandering so much, I can not tell [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:KeithBJohnson%40comcast.net mailto:KeithBJohnson%40comcast.net wrote: i'm still reeling that they killed off the Brother from last season... -- Original message -- From: B. Smith This is what I said on another forum about the Heroes version of my hometown, New Orleans. And the winner for worst New Orleans depiction ever: Heroes. Apparently they thought LA could stand in for New Orleans with no modifications. Fool? No one in New Orleans says fool as in break yourself fool! Where the hell did that come from? 1991 California? The accents make K-Ville cound pitch perfect. Where was that white chick supposed to be from? The Missiissippi or Alabama Gulf Coast? And how in the post-Katrina world how could they not know that Louisiana doesn't have counties? It's called a parish. The latest episode just got worse. The architecture and sets are so wrong, the police uniforms are nowhere near right, the accents (the horror, the horror), kids playing double dutch a place that looked more New York than New Orleans and on and on. I do like Micah's cousin aka the Taskmistress. She has a cool powerset. Hopefully we get more of her and less diversions into ancient Japan. That is such a convoluted mess. That was a nice swerve with Parkman's dad. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com , Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) wrote: I agree totally. The thrill is gone. and to make matters worse, every week they bring out even more characters. its so disappointing. I keep hoping it gets better. my husband stopped watching totally. They are really blowing it ravenadal wrote: Heroes (Heroes (Season 2)) C+ FALLEN HEROES Here's hoping NBC's drama can rescue itself from a diabolical sophomore slump By Gillian Flynn This week on Heroes: Claire (Hayden Panettiere) continues to marvel at the same powers of regeneration she's always had! Hiro (Masi Oka) does cute things in feudal Japan! And after a journey of approximately 42 million miles from one vague part of Central America to another vague part of Central America, our new, haplessly murderous hero Maya (The Sopranos' Dania Ramirez) is still blubbering for her twin brother (Shalim Ortiz) and bleeding black goo from her eyes! Wait, which week is this? Every week. NBC's once-inventive series is in a creative sinkhole. Frenetic but bizarrely repetitive, the drama bores from myriad worldwide locales that all look like the backlot of M*A*S*H. Season 2 sees previous standout heroes †unkillable Claire, time- freezing Hiro †gone solo in their own painful
Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Fallen Heroes: ( Heroes Season 2) Grade C+
I saw about 1/2 of the episodes, including last night's finale. It was great! I hope it gets picked up next year. buky90 wrote: OT ANY BODY KEEPING UP WITH DAMGES best show on tv so im watching and my boy mario van peebles is directing an episode. then answer too my prayers he appears on screen too.. for those not watching gleen close plays a lawyer evil and powerful who hires a newbie and the machinations that follow amazing show On 10/24/07, Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Actually, that is what I thought was going to happen. I'm shocked at this detour. So far it seems pointless B. Smith wrote: No arguement from me. All three are tedious. I would have loved if Kensei had actually been killed and Hiro took up the mantle. That would have been more interesting to me than the superhero Shogun knockoff we got. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com mailto:scifinoir2% scifinoir2%2540yahoogroups.com, Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As bad as those two back stories are, I think the toxic twins crying every week are worse. Daryle wrote: Great idea! If DL comes back as a super-villain, and hence a star of the show, there will be no stopping this show. It will have been worth sitting through half a season of fluff if that’s how it plays out. I’m curious, why did everybody hate the Hiro-back-in-time segment of this season so much? Considering how much we had to sit through for Micah’s mom’s back-story in season 1, this has been pretty mild. On 10/24/07 8:36 AM, Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:truthseeker_013%40yahoo.com wrote: I don't think he's dead either, Tracey. My thinking is that he's been imprisoned inside the coffin he was buried in, that the coffin is specially made to negate his phasing ability. If I'm right, when he comes out, I could see him being a bad guy in the interests of getback. Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:tdlists% tdlists%2540multiculturaladvantage.com mailto:tdlists% tdlists%2540multiculturaladvantage.com wrote: I read somewhere that he might not be dead and that he was returning as a bad guy. Don't know how true that is. The show is meandering so much, I can not tell [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:KeithBJohnson%40comcast.net mailto:KeithBJohnson%40comcast.net wrote: i'm still reeling that they killed off the Brother from last season... -- Original message -- From: B. Smith This is what I said on another forum about the Heroes version of my hometown, New Orleans. And the winner for worst New Orleans depiction ever: Heroes. Apparently they thought LA could stand in for New Orleans with no modifications. Fool? No one in New Orleans says fool as in break yourself fool! Where the hell did that come from? 1991 California? The accents make K-Ville cound pitch perfect. Where was that white chick supposed to be from? The Missiissippi or Alabama Gulf Coast? And how in the post-Katrina world how could they not know that Louisiana doesn't have counties? It's called a parish. The latest episode just got worse. The architecture and sets are so wrong, the police uniforms are nowhere near right, the accents (the horror, the horror), kids playing double dutch a place that looked more New York than New Orleans and on and on. I do like Micah's cousin aka the Taskmistress. She has a cool powerset. Hopefully we get more of her and less diversions into ancient Japan. That is such a convoluted mess. That was a nice swerve with Parkman's dad. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com mailto:scifinoir2% scifinoir2%2540yahoogroups.com mailto:scifinoir2% scifinoir2%2540yahoogroups.com mailto:scifinoir2% scifinoir2%2540yahoogroups.com , Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) wrote: I agree totally. The thrill is gone. and to make matters worse, every week they bring out even more characters. its so disappointing. I keep hoping it gets better. my husband stopped watching totally. They are really blowing it ravenadal wrote: Heroes (Heroes
Re: [scifinoir2] Dr. Who, Blink Episode
I liked that one too. Martin wrote: Easily one of my favorites as well, on par with Army of Ghosts/Doomsday and The End of the World. ravenadal [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:ravenadal%40yahoo.com wrote: --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com, Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 3. Blink -- Doctor Who While this third season episode was an episode that barely included The Doctor (David Tennant), there are few things scarier than statues that move and get all ugly-faced and threatening when you aren't looking at them. It reminded me of when I was 5 years old and wouldn't let my parents put any pictures on my walls with faces on them, because I could swear the mouths moved when my parents weren't around. I might sleep with the lights on tonight. __ Blink was a great episode, on par with the best X-files episodes. It is a sad and simultaneously cheeky meditation on the time/space continuum. It even has a Terminator conundrum. What I like most about this episode is that you spend most of the episode wondering what is going on. It is like a gigantic puzzle, but huge and confounding as it seems, it is all tied up, rather neatly, in a single episode. ~(major)rave! There is no reason Good can't triumph over Evil, if only angels will get organized along the lines of the Mafia. -Kurt Vonnegut, A Man Without A Country __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com http://mail.yahoo.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[scifinoir2] Dr. Who: Less Travel to Other Planets
I was on another board and someone mentioned that there is less travel to other planets than with the original Doctor Who and that it has taken away from the storytelling. I never watch the original much, so I do not know. What do you guys think? Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Fallen Heroes: ( Heroes Season 2) Grade C+
I read somewhere that he might not be dead and that he was returning as a bad guy. Don't know how true that is. The show is meandering so much, I can not tell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i'm still reeling that they killed off the Brother from last season... -- Original message -- From: B. Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] This is what I said on another forum about the Heroes version of my hometown, New Orleans. And the winner for worst New Orleans depiction ever: Heroes. Apparently they thought LA could stand in for New Orleans with no modifications. Fool? No one in New Orleans says fool as in break yourself fool! Where the hell did that come from? 1991 California? The accents make K-Ville cound pitch perfect. Where was that white chick supposed to be from? The Missiissippi or Alabama Gulf Coast? And how in the post-Katrina world how could they not know that Louisiana doesn't have counties? It's called a parish. The latest episode just got worse. The architecture and sets are so wrong, the police uniforms are nowhere near right, the accents (the horror, the horror), kids playing double dutch a place that looked more New York than New Orleans and on and on. I do like Micah's cousin aka the Taskmistress. She has a cool powerset. Hopefully we get more of her and less diversions into ancient Japan. That is such a convoluted mess. That was a nice swerve with Parkman's dad. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I agree totally. The thrill is gone. and to make matters worse, every week they bring out even more characters. its so disappointing. I keep hoping it gets better. my husband stopped watching totally. They are really blowing it ravenadal wrote: Heroes (Heroes (Season 2)) C+ FALLEN HEROES Here's hoping NBC's drama can rescue itself from a diabolical sophomore slump By Gillian Flynn This week on Heroes: Claire (Hayden Panettiere) continues to marvel at the same powers of regeneration she's always had! Hiro (Masi Oka) does cute things in feudal Japan! And after a journey of approximately 42 million miles from one vague part of Central America to another vague part of Central America, our new, haplessly murderous hero Maya (The Sopranos' Dania Ramirez) is still blubbering for her twin brother (Shalim Ortiz) and bleeding black goo from her eyes! Wait, which week is this? Every week. NBC's once-inventive series is in a creative sinkhole. Frenetic but bizarrely repetitive, the drama bores from myriad worldwide locales that all look like the backlot of M*A*S*H. Season 2 sees previous standout heroes †unkillable Claire, time-freezing Hiro †gone solo in their own painful, stagnant story lines. Claire is living undercover in California, her now saintlike dad (Jack Coleman) repeatedly warning her not to be interesting. Mission accomplished! Claire's been saddled with a laser-eyed beau (Rocket Science's Nicholas D'Agosto) who also has powers †he can fly, with the aid of mediocre special effects. (The writers think we should be dazzled by this ''flying'' business, forgetting that people took to the air repeatedly last season.) In an even more labored plot, Hiro has landed in 17th-century Japan, where he finds his idol, the samurai Kensei (Alias' David Anders), and falls in love with an anachronistically spunky heroine (a must in the time-travel genre). That's right, Hiro †the most neutered TV character since Screech †is remaining in feudal Japan to ogle a babe. Stripped of any genuine mission, he now has little to do but smile like an adorable, gassy baby. It's increasingly unbearable. Which is a good phrase to describe Heroes itself. With its larger mythology shunted to the side (no, a mysterious recurring symbol doth not a uniting backstory make), Heroes feels less like Heroes than a horrid combination of T.J. Hooker and Charlie's Angels: Peter Petrelli (Milo Ventimiglia) commits holdups in Ireland; another extraneous new hero, New Orleanian Monica (The Nine's Dana Davis) is roundhouse-kicking robbers; serial-killing Sylar (Zachary Quinto) has gone fugitive with the weeping twins. What happened to...saving the planet? Like the endangered Earth that's oft alluded to, Heroes is degrading at a remarkable pace: The dialogue has gone from comic- book cool to Dick-and-Jane obvious, the stylistic angles have turned flat, entire scenes are devoted to Suresh (Sendhil Ramamurthy) and Parkman (Greg Grunberg) bickering around their shared apartment like maiden aunts
Re: [scifinoir2] Vampire File 30 Days of Night Number One at Box Office
Ok, reveiws are mixed to not so good. See below. Movie Reviews: '30 Days of Night' No one expects vampire movies to get great reviews and those for 30 Days of Night are no exception. At least it can be said that the movie receives some mild ones. Roger Ebert's in the Chicago Sun-Times is typical. It is, he writes, a better-than-average example of the genre. ... I award the movie two and a half stars because it is well-made, well-photographed and plausibly acted, and is better than it needs to be. Scott Bowles in USA Today has even nicer things to say about the film, writing that director David Slade keeps the action moving, the cliches at arm's length and the genre infused with new blood. Of course, there are plenty of other critics who take the movie by the throat. 30 Days of Night makes you feel the cold ... and feel the fangs, writes Michael Phillips in the Chicago Tribune, but it also makes you feel like 30 days is a pretty long time. And Kyle Smith concludes in the New York Post: The movie approaches the final scene with a straight face, but it left the audience giggling spasmodically. This script probably should have gone all the way and thrown in a few quips: If your movie is a joke, at least be intentionally funny. http://www.imdb.com/news/sb/2007-10-19/ Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) wrote: I read a really great review. They said the director did the graphic novel justice. I hope it does well. They are talking turning one of the other novels into a sequel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Did anyone see this vampyr flick? For some reason, i wanted to see it, probably because the bloodsuckers look vicious and ghoulish. This hails back to the older legends of the vampire as a nasty thing that *ate* parts of people, not just innocently sucked their blood through two small holes in the neck. I've mentioned recently that I've started tiring of the vampire-as-tortured-soul concept (Angel, Blood Ties, Moonlight), and the whole sexy-cool vampire guy has worn thin to me too, it's been so overdone. I've been wanting someone to bring back *frightening* vampires a la Nosferatu or Salem's Lot. I'm hoping someone saw it to let me know if they succeeded Vampire film 30 Days crushes competition Sunday October 21 1:19 PM ET The new vampire thriller 30 Days of Night sucked the life out of its box office rivals, opening at No. 1 with estimated weekend sales of $16 million, according to studio estimates issued on Sunday. Meanwhile, moviegoers ignored three new high-powered dramas hoping for awards-season recognition. The crime drama Gone Baby Gone, marking the directing debut of Ben Affleck, opened at No. 5 with $6.0 million; the CIA suspense drama Rendition, starring Reese Witherspoon, limped in at No. 9 with $4.2 million; and the domestic tragedy Things We Lost in the Fire, starring Benicio Del Toro and Halle Berry, barely flickered at No. 15 with $1.6 million. Box office pundits said an onslaught of R-rated dramas in recent weeks had been too much for moviegoers to digest. Recent entries such as the terrorism thriller The Kingdom, the period drama Elizabeth: The Golden Age and the legal saga Michael Clayton -- all boasting Oscar-winning talent -- have disappointed to various degrees. I think people are looking for froth, said a studio official who did not want to be identified. How much reality do you want? Light fare has ruled the box office in recent weeks. Incumbent champ Why Did I Get Married? slipped to No. 2 with $12.1 million. It had ended the two-week reign of The Game Plan, which is now No. 3 with $8.1 million. Before that, the zombies of Resident Evil: Extinction were the top draw. 30 Days of Night pitches a horde of zombie-like vampires against a handful of residents in an Alaskan town going without sunshine for a month. Josh Hartnett and Danny Huston star in the $30 million project, which was distributed by Columbia Pictures, a unit of Sony Corp. Writer/director/actor Tyler Perry's romantic comedy-drama Why Did I Get Married? has earned $38.9 million after two weeks. It was released by Lionsgate, a unit of Lions Gate Entertainment Corp. Walt Disney Co.'s The Game Plan, starring Dwayne The Rock Johnson, has earned $69.2 million after four weekends. Gone Baby Gone was released by Disney's Miramax Films. Rendition was released by New Line Cinema, a unit of Time Warner Inc. Things We Lost in the Fire was released by DreamWorks Pictures and Paramount Pictures, both units of Viacom Inc. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email
Re: [scifinoir2] Fallen Heroes: ( Heroes Season 2) Grade C+
I agree totally. The thrill is gone. and to make matters worse, every week they bring out even more characters. its so disappointing. I keep hoping it gets better. my husband stopped watching totally. They are really blowing it ravenadal wrote: Heroes (Heroes (Season 2)) C+ FALLEN HEROES Here's hoping NBC's drama can rescue itself from a diabolical sophomore slump By Gillian Flynn This week on Heroes: Claire (Hayden Panettiere) continues to marvel at the same powers of regeneration she's always had! Hiro (Masi Oka) does cute things in feudal Japan! And after a journey of approximately 42 million miles from one vague part of Central America to another vague part of Central America, our new, haplessly murderous hero Maya (The Sopranos' Dania Ramirez) is still blubbering for her twin brother (Shalim Ortiz) and bleeding black goo from her eyes! Wait, which week is this? Every week. NBC's once-inventive series is in a creative sinkhole. Frenetic but bizarrely repetitive, the drama bores from myriad worldwide locales that all look like the backlot of M*A*S*H. Season 2 sees previous standout heroes — unkillable Claire, time-freezing Hiro — gone solo in their own painful, stagnant story lines. Claire is living undercover in California, her now saintlike dad (Jack Coleman) repeatedly warning her not to be interesting. Mission accomplished! Claire's been saddled with a laser-eyed beau (Rocket Science's Nicholas D'Agosto) who also has powers — he can fly, with the aid of mediocre special effects. (The writers think we should be dazzled by this ''flying'' business, forgetting that people took to the air repeatedly last season.) In an even more labored plot, Hiro has landed in 17th-century Japan, where he finds his idol, the samurai Kensei (Alias' David Anders), and falls in love with an anachronistically spunky heroine (a must in the time-travel genre). That's right, Hiro — the most neutered TV character since Screech — is remaining in feudal Japan to ogle a babe. Stripped of any genuine mission, he now has little to do but smile like an adorable, gassy baby. It's increasingly unbearable. Which is a good phrase to describe Heroes itself. With its larger mythology shunted to the side (no, a mysterious recurring symbol doth not a uniting backstory make), Heroes feels less like Heroes than a horrid combination of T.J. Hooker and Charlie's Angels: Peter Petrelli (Milo Ventimiglia) commits holdups in Ireland; another extraneous new hero, New Orleanian Monica (The Nine's Dana Davis) is roundhouse-kicking robbers; serial-killing Sylar (Zachary Quinto) has gone fugitive with the weeping twins. What happened to...saving the planet? Like the endangered Earth that's oft alluded to, Heroes is degrading at a remarkable pace: The dialogue has gone from comic-book cool to Dick-and-Jane obvious, the stylistic angles have turned flat, entire scenes are devoted to Suresh (Sendhil Ramamurthy) and Parkman (Greg Grunberg) bickering around their shared apartment like maiden aunts. It's a sad day for superheroes when you find yourself actually rooting for the end of the world. C- __ The Black Prince. The Black Church. A State of Mind. http://www.theworldebon.com http://www.theworldebon.com
Re: [scifinoir2] Dr. Who, Blink Episode
i loved that episode. Creeped me out. I wish that if that had to get rid of Frema, that they could have brought in Sally Sparrow. I really liked her character. Of course, I think they were idiots to make Frema have a case of unrequited love for the Doctor and then getting rid of her. ravenadal wrote: --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com, Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 3. Blink -- Doctor Who While this third season episode was an episode that barely included The Doctor (David Tennant), there are few things scarier than statues that move and get all ugly-faced and threatening when you aren't looking at them. It reminded me of when I was 5 years old and wouldn't let my parents put any pictures on my walls with faces on them, because I could swear the mouths moved when my parents weren't around. I might sleep with the lights on tonight. __ Blink was a great episode, on par with the best X-files episodes. It is a sad and simultaneously cheeky meditation on the time/space continuum. It even has a Terminator conundrum. What I like most about this episode is that you spend most of the episode wondering what is going on. It is like a gigantic puzzle, but huge and confounding as it seems, it is all tied up, rather neatly, in a single episode. ~(major)rave! Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [scifinoir2] Dr. Who Marathon
Its interesting that you brought up The two-part penultimate episode is the one where my husband stopped watching, and I still watch, but I don't enjoy it as much. While I think Tennant is a good Doctor, I sometimes miss Christopher Eccleston. Can't really put my finger on it, but you raised some of the issues on my mind. While I don't have the same response to Freema in a maid costume, she is definitely an asset to the show. No pun intended guys. Ok maybe pun intended. I know how you all feel about her ravenadal wrote: 1) Although Freema Ageman's Martha Jones is portrayed as a spunky, intelligent and strong-willed character, the writers time and time again wrote situations in which she had to pretend to be the doctor's maid and/or servant. The two-part penultimate episode has Martha and the Doctor marooned at an upper crust boy's school in pre-World War 1 England where the Doctor is Mr. Chips and Martha is forced to work as a scullery maid while protecting the Doctor's secret identity (he has become the human John Smith to throw off some particular nasty aliens who need to distill some essence of Time Lord in order to continue their existence). Throughout the episode Martha is constantly reminded of her place. As she is scrubbing a mahogany floor with her brown hands, one of the snooty upper classmen remarks to another, however does she know when it is clean? In the final episodes of the season, both Martha's mother and sister are relegated to wearing maids uniforms as they serve the Master, the second surviving Time Lord. 2) The Doctor is not a nice guy. He is swift and brutal in exacting punishment. He dispatches humans to their inevitable ends without the bat of an eye - in the boarding school episode he is more than willing to use school boys as cannon fodder - they are only a means to an end. 3) For a Shakespearean actor, Daniel Tennant is awful at displaying believable grief. The muppet playing the 900 year-old doctor in the final episode is 10 times the actor Tennant is at demonstrating remorse and regret. 4) Freema Ageman is quite fetching and brings much moxie to her Martha Jones character. My favorite image is of her dashing after some unseen menace while wearing a leather skirt and a quiver of arrows on her back (Blink). 5) I have yet to watch any of the Torchwood episodes, but the pan- sexual-ready-to-hump-anything do do-anything-but-die Hawkins character is a hoot. 6) The actress playing Martha's sister is yummy (especially in a maid's costume). ~rave! __ The Black Prince. The Black Church. A State of Mind. http://www.theworldebon.com http://www.theworldebon.com Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [scifinoir2] Dr. Who, Blink Episode (was: Re: The 10 Scariest Episodes On Sci-Fi TV)
To think they did this without much special effects. Fantastic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: agreed. my wife and I watched it that night, and looked at each other and shivered. My brother-in-law is a fourth degree black belt Tae Kwon Do master, and he told me this weekend that show scared him too. Awesome -- Original message -- From: ravenadal [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:ravenadal%40yahoo.com --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com, Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 3. Blink -- Doctor Who While this third season episode was an episode that barely included The Doctor (David Tennant), there are few things scarier than statues that move and get all ugly-faced and threatening when you aren't looking at them. It reminded me of when I was 5 years old and wouldn't let my parents put any pictures on my walls with faces on them, because I could swear the mouths moved when my parents weren't around. I might sleep with the lights on tonight. __ Blink was a great episode, on par with the best X-files episodes. It is a sad and simultaneously cheeky meditation on the time/space continuum. It even has a Terminator conundrum. What I like most about this episode is that you spend most of the episode wondering what is going on. It is like a gigantic puzzle, but huge and confounding as it seems, it is all tied up, rather neatly, in a single episode. ~(major)rave! [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [scifinoir2] Dr. Who, Blink Episode
I hope so. I think I read that she is going to get a love interest on Torchwood. But I still don't get why they hired Catherine Tate. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 10/22/07 7:48:17 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:tdlists%40multiculturaladvantage.com writes: Also IMO they started to tone down that unrequited love thing sometime during the later half of the season finially putting an end to it in the last episode. Hince when she does return that unrequited Doc love will probally be gone. -GTW ** See what's new at http://www.aol.com http://www.aol.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [scifinoir2] Dr. Who, Blink Episode
I liked her in that episode, but I'm not sure if I like her every week as the companion. Justin... are you in the uk. I read that the spin off was not coming to the states Justin Mohareb wrote: I dunno, Tate has awesome chemistry with the Doctor during the Runaway bride episode. I think she'll be interesting as a companion. I, personally, am looking forward to the Sparrow Nightingale, Occult Detectives spinoff. JJ Mohareb On 10/22/07, Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] aladvantage. com mailto:tdlists%40multiculturaladvantage.com wrote: I hope so. I think I read that she is going to get a love interest on Torchwood. But I still don't get why they hired Catherine Tate. -- Read the Bitter Guide to the Bitter Guy. http://thebitterguy .livejournal. com http://thebitterguy.livejournal.com Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [scifinoir2] Dr. Who, Blink Episode
There is a spin off (I don't know the name) but it will only be in the UK. But I would love a Sparrow Nightingale, Occult Detectives spinoff. Justin Mohareb wrote: I'm a Canuckistani, but I was joking about the Sparrow/Nightingale show. Did I miss some exciting news? JJ Mohareb On 10/22/07, Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:tdlists%40multiculturaladvantage.com wrote: I liked her in that episode, but I'm not sure if I like her every week as the companion. Justin... are you in the uk. I read that the spin off was not coming to the states Justin Mohareb wrote: I dunno, Tate has awesome chemistry with the Doctor during the Runaway bride episode. I think she'll be interesting as a companion. I, personally, am looking forward to the Sparrow Nightingale, Occult Detectives spinoff. JJ Mohareb -- Read the Bitter Guide to the Bitter Guy. http://thebitterguy.livejournal.com http://thebitterguy.livejournal.com Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[scifinoir2] 30 Days Tops Box Office
30 Days Tops Box Office The vampire movie 30 Days of Night staked out the top slot at the Oct. 19 weekend box office, taking in about $16 million, the Associated Press reported. The success of the movie, which is based on Steve Niles' and Ben Templesmith's graphic novel, suggested moviegoers were not in a mood for more serious fare, the AP reported. http://www.scifi.com/scifiwire/index.php?category=0id=44870 Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [scifinoir2] Bill Maher Kicks Butt
I watched, what is not on the clip, is that it went on for 10 or more minutes. After they kicked out one, another would start up. Things would appear to settle down and than another heckler would appear to start up independently. I think there ended up being like seven of them.It was funny at first, but after a few minutes it kind of got surreal - at least for me and sad with Maher talking about kicking butt and shutting them up almost the whole time. It almost ruined the show, Finally, he told the home viewing audience that they were 9-11 conspiracy people. He believes that Bush and company were neither complicit nor conspirators in 911 and that anyone who believes that it was not just the Arab Muslims hating us for our freedom are just lunatics and nuts. You could never hear what they were saying so other than looking like idiots, I can't figure out what the were hoping to accomplish. I believe that the administration that said they needed a pearl harbor like event to push through their agenda were at least opportunistic. However, those hecklers simply reinforced the perception that anyone who has questions about 911 is a nut. I hope they do not continue. Even though Maher refuses to have any discussion on the subject on his show, what the hecklers did is no solution. I hope they realize this and seek out another solution to getting their message heard. Reece Jennings wrote: A-HO! Peep what Bill Maher does w/ hecklers in the audience during a live taping on Friday night. It's HILARIOUS. http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=B-f_YYEw- QI http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B-f_YYEw-QI [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [scifinoir2] J.K. Rowling Outs Dumbledore
Actually, your reaction was perhaps similar to mine. I thought, why did she do that? Then I thought maybe she did it to to teach a lesson. For some reason it feels out of place for me, even though I advocate put such a message in children's literature and other media. It somehow feels forced and like it came out of left field. Maybe if he had been gay all along, but to disclose this in what I think is the seventh book/movie in the series feels odd. I can not put my finger on it. What do you guys think? Astromancer wrote: I guess someone really needed to know that... Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:tdlists%40multiculturaladvantage.com wrote: http://tinyurl.com/2remfy http://tinyurl.com/2remfy Albus Dumbledore took quite a few secrets with him to the grave. And it's possible that even he didn't know about this one. After helping Dumbledore's favorite pupil uncover a treasure trove of information about the Hogwarts headmaster in Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows, the final installment of her billion-dollar fantasy series, J.K. Rowling has pulled something new out of the pensieve: Dumbledore was gay. (What you just heard was the sound of conservative religious groups scribbling down one more reason to loathe the Harry Potter franchise.) Falling in love can blind us to an extent, Rowling explained Friday in front of a packed house at New York's Carnegie Hall, where she capped off her first U.S. book tour since 2000. Which explains why the brilliant wizard was briefly blinded as a young man by the charm and skill of Gellert Grindelwald, his companion turned arch-nemesis who turned out to be more interested in the Dark Arts than a three-bedroom craftsman in Hogsmeade. After Dumbledore was horribly, terribly let down, Rowling explained, he went on to destroy Grindelwald in what is considered in the wizarding world to have been the ultimate wand-toting battle between good and evil. That love, she said to raucous applause, was Dumbledore's great tragedy. If I had know this would have made you so happy, I would have told you years ago, Rowling said. If this revelation seems almost too whimsical, consider this: Rowling, who penned much of Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone in a café while living out of her car, can certainly be a bit cheeky, but it seems highly unlikely that she would try to put one over on a Manhattan landmark full of kids and other readers who have made her one of the richest people in England. While working on the sixth Potter film, Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince, which focuses largely on Dumbledore and Harry's relationship, as well as the elder wizard's interaction with a young Voldemort, Rowling said that she slipped director David Yates an eye-opening note after noticing that there was a reference in the script to a girl in Dumbledore's past. There's no word yet on if this will affect Michael Gambon's character in the final two Potter movies, which are slated for release in 2008 and 2010, respectively. Dumbledore's sexuality has apparently been of great interest to bloggers and chat room denizens for years, with his history—and intimate affinities—becoming the subject of much debate and, ahem, original short stories. Just imagine the fan fiction now, Rowling joked. Of course, one could always have shrugged off the lack of romance in his life, what with his hectic work schedule and his penchant for secrecy. And, as the scarred one learned in Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix, Dumbledore could be quite temperamental, especially when protecting those he loved. Let’s just saying you know more than you think, but we’re not going to help you figure it out. - The Side Street Chonicles by C.W. Badie __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com http://mail.yahoo.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [scifinoir2] Bill Maher Kicks Butt
Agreed and now with Maher's stripes regarding his contempt Palestinians and Arabs getting louder, it bothers me more for those blind followers who struggle to think for themselves, If these people say it is so, then it must be so. Then they are shocked when O'Donnell who has always been in your face implodes or we get that other The View woman who thinks the world may be flat. What does please me is that sometimes the studio audience appear to be independent thinkers and support the person he attacks. I love seeing the shock in his eye when that happens. I used to like the Keith Oberman show on MSMBC. In addition to too much coverage of silly stuff like Paris and Brittany, what also turned me off was watching his metamorphosis from a thoughtful commentator who was liberal to the total flip side of O'Reilly or that anti-immigration creep on CNN ( I can not think of his name). Even though I agree with much that he says, I can barely watch him. I feel like we are being spoon-fed what we are supposed to think. He looks like a clown. They both look like idiots to me. ...and unfortunately, it seems to be just what the masses ordered. Because we are hearing what we want to hear, we do not realize that freedom of speech is still being taken away from us. I digress... Daryle wrote: Honestly, it did ruin the show. While it's true that Real Time and The Daily Show aren't public forums for the audience's agenda, when you run a show that is live with no commercials and you lean on the audience for laughs, you set the illusion that the show is run by the audience. This doesn't happen on the Daily Show. I've attended some tapings of that show, and you're not sneaking in with huge signs. How this happened at CBS Studios is beyond me. It's a potentially dangerous situation, and in my opinion, Bill handled this horribly. It is a symptom of a larger problem. Bill Maher is a comedian. Jon Stewart is a comedian. Stephen Colbert and Whoopi Goldberg are comedians. Rallying behind comedians who have large audiences because they are saying things that sound like common sense is no more logical than the folks who swear by something because it was on Fox. Corporate people-herding is how we got into this problem (and by problem, I mean the stripping of personal freedoms). Forming a new clique and not questioning the would-be leadership of the new clique is silly. Bill Maher is not a leader. He is a guy with a show. On 10/21/07 4:54 PM, Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:tdlists%40multiculturaladvantage.com wrote: I watched, what is not on the clip, is that it went on for 10 or more minutes. After they kicked out one, another would start up. Things would appear to settle down and than another heckler would appear to start up independently. I think there ended up being like seven of them. It was funny at first, but after a few minutes it kind of got surreal - at least for me and sad with Maher talking about kicking butt and shutting them up almost the whole time. It almost ruined the show, Finally, he told the home viewing audience that they were 9-11 conspiracy people. He believes that Bush and company were neither complicit nor conspirators in 911 and that anyone who believes that it was not just the Arab Muslims hating us for our freedom are just lunatics and nuts. You could never hear what they were saying so other than looking like idiots, I can't figure out what the were hoping to accomplish. I believe that the administration that said they needed a pearl harbor like event to push through their agenda were at least opportunistic. However, those hecklers simply reinforced the perception that anyone who has questions about 911 is a nut. I hope they do not continue. Even though Maher refuses to have any discussion on the subject on his show, what the hecklers did is no solution. I hope they realize this and seek out another solution to getting their message heard. Reece Jennings wrote: A-HO! Peep what Bill Maher does w/ hecklers in the audience during a live taping on Friday night. It's HILARIOUS. http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=B-f_YYEw- QI http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B-f_YYEw-QI http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B-f_YYEw-QI [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [scifinoir2] Vampire File 30 Days of Night Number One at Box Office
I read a really great review. They said the director did the graphic novel justice. I hope it does well. They are talking turning one of the other novels into a sequel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Did anyone see this vampyr flick? For some reason, i wanted to see it, probably because the bloodsuckers look vicious and ghoulish. This hails back to the older legends of the vampire as a nasty thing that *ate* parts of people, not just innocently sucked their blood through two small holes in the neck. I've mentioned recently that I've started tiring of the vampire-as-tortured-soul concept (Angel, Blood Ties, Moonlight), and the whole sexy-cool vampire guy has worn thin to me too, it's been so overdone. I've been wanting someone to bring back *frightening* vampires a la Nosferatu or Salem's Lot. I'm hoping someone saw it to let me know if they succeeded Vampire film 30 Days crushes competition Sunday October 21 1:19 PM ET The new vampire thriller 30 Days of Night sucked the life out of its box office rivals, opening at No. 1 with estimated weekend sales of $16 million, according to studio estimates issued on Sunday. Meanwhile, moviegoers ignored three new high-powered dramas hoping for awards-season recognition. The crime drama Gone Baby Gone, marking the directing debut of Ben Affleck, opened at No. 5 with $6.0 million; the CIA suspense drama Rendition, starring Reese Witherspoon, limped in at No. 9 with $4.2 million; and the domestic tragedy Things We Lost in the Fire, starring Benicio Del Toro and Halle Berry, barely flickered at No. 15 with $1.6 million. Box office pundits said an onslaught of R-rated dramas in recent weeks had been too much for moviegoers to digest. Recent entries such as the terrorism thriller The Kingdom, the period drama Elizabeth: The Golden Age and the legal saga Michael Clayton -- all boasting Oscar-winning talent -- have disappointed to various degrees. I think people are looking for froth, said a studio official who did not want to be identified. How much reality do you want? Light fare has ruled the box office in recent weeks. Incumbent champ Why Did I Get Married? slipped to No. 2 with $12.1 million. It had ended the two-week reign of The Game Plan, which is now No. 3 with $8.1 million. Before that, the zombies of Resident Evil: Extinction were the top draw. 30 Days of Night pitches a horde of zombie-like vampires against a handful of residents in an Alaskan town going without sunshine for a month. Josh Hartnett and Danny Huston star in the $30 million project, which was distributed by Columbia Pictures, a unit of Sony Corp. Writer/director/actor Tyler Perry's romantic comedy-drama Why Did I Get Married? has earned $38.9 million after two weeks. It was released by Lionsgate, a unit of Lions Gate Entertainment Corp. Walt Disney Co.'s The Game Plan, starring Dwayne The Rock Johnson, has earned $69.2 million after four weekends. Gone Baby Gone was released by Disney's Miramax Films. Rendition was released by New Line Cinema, a unit of Time Warner Inc. Things We Lost in the Fire was released by DreamWorks Pictures and Paramount Pictures, both units of Viacom Inc. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[scifinoir2] J.K. Rowling Outs Dumbledore
http://tinyurl.com/2remfy Albus Dumbledore took quite a few secrets with him to the grave. And it's possible that even he didn't know about this one. After helping Dumbledore's favorite pupil uncover a treasure trove of information about the Hogwarts headmaster in Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows, the final installment of her billion-dollar fantasy series, J.K. Rowling has pulled something new out of the pensieve: Dumbledore was gay. (What you just heard was the sound of conservative religious groups scribbling down one more reason to loathe the Harry Potter franchise.) Falling in love can blind us to an extent, Rowling explained Friday in front of a packed house at New York's Carnegie Hall, where she capped off her first U.S. book tour since 2000. Which explains why the brilliant wizard was briefly blinded as a young man by the charm and skill of Gellert Grindelwald, his companion turned arch-nemesis who turned out to be more interested in the Dark Arts than a three-bedroom craftsman in Hogsmeade. After Dumbledore was horribly, terribly let down, Rowling explained, he went on to destroy Grindelwald in what is considered in the wizarding world to have been the ultimate wand-toting battle between good and evil. That love, she said to raucous applause, was Dumbledore's great tragedy. If I had know this would have made you so happy, I would have told you years ago, Rowling said. If this revelation seems almost too whimsical, consider this: Rowling, who penned much of Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone in a café while living out of her car, can certainly be a bit cheeky, but it seems highly unlikely that she would try to put one over on a Manhattan landmark full of kids and other readers who have made her one of the richest people in England. While working on the sixth Potter film, Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince, which focuses largely on Dumbledore and Harry's relationship, as well as the elder wizard's interaction with a young Voldemort, Rowling said that she slipped director David Yates an eye-opening note after noticing that there was a reference in the script to a girl in Dumbledore's past. There's no word yet on if this will affect Michael Gambon's character in the final two Potter movies, which are slated for release in 2008 and 2010, respectively. Dumbledore's sexuality has apparently been of great interest to bloggers and chat room denizens for years, with his history—and intimate affinities—becoming the subject of much debate and, ahem, original short stories. Just imagine the fan fiction now, Rowling joked. Of course, one could always have shrugged off the lack of romance in his life, what with his hectic work schedule and his penchant for secrecy. And, as the scarred one learned in Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix, Dumbledore could be quite temperamental, especially when protecting those he loved.
Re: [scifinoir2] FW: [Blackfolks] Electromagnetic Radiation:Intervention Recommendations from the Safe Wireless Initiative
From what I've read it does not start affecting you with tumors until you have used them excessively for 10 years straight holding the phone on the same side of your face. Even then, your likelihood tumors increases, significantly. It does not mean you will definitely get a tumor. Martin wrote: Actually, I haven't noticed *any* ill effects. I'm healthier than I've ever been. Reece Jennings [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:mcjennings124%40yahoo.com wrote: Wow. Damage done, huh? I had a tumor removed from my left jaw back in '04. Benign. I used to keep my cellphone under my left uniform shirt epaulet (sp) when I was a Law Enforcement Officer. I mean a cop. I don't do that anymore. But I DO still keep it on my belt. Maurice Jennings Have you or someone you know been threatened with foreclosure? KEEP your home and Stop Foreclosure in its Tracks! Get a Free, No Obligation Evaluation = http://www.legacyhomesavers.com http://www.legacyhomesavers.com http://www.legacyhomesavers.com/ http://www.legacyhomesavers.com/ _ From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Martin Sent: Friday, October 19, 2007 10:45 AM To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] FW: [Blackfolks] Electromagnetic Radiation:Intervention Recommendations from the Safe Wireless Initiative Number 4 comes about sixteen years too late for me... Reece Jennings mcjennings124@ mailto:mcjennings124%40yahoo.com yahoo.com wrote: Electromagnetic Radiation: Intervention Recommendations from the Safe Wireless Initiative To minimize dangerous electromagnetic radiation from your personal environment: 1. Keep your cell phone at least 6-7 inches away from the body while it is on. 2. Use an air tube, not wired or wireless, headset or speaker mode, as much as possible. 3. Keep the cell phone turned completely off when not in use. 4. Try to avoid keeping your cell phone in your pocket or on your hip all day. The hip is responsible for producing 80% of the red blood cells in the body and that area is especially vulnerable to EMR damage. 5. Replace cordless phones with corded landlines wherever possible. 6. Minimize exposure to all wireless technology and other electric devices or equipment. Hard-wire your computer for Internet access, instead of wireless access. 7. Nutritional supplementation is showing significant protective effects from melatonin and vitamins C and E in averting oxidative stress. 8. Install various EMR filters to electrical circuits and appliances. 9. Use appropriate preventive technologies as often as possible. 10. Never talk on a cell phone or cordless home phone when you are pregnant or with a baby or small child in your arms. 11. Move your alarm clock radio at least 3 feet from your head, 6 feet is recommended. 12. Keep your sleep zone as low EMR as possible; avoid electric, metal-framed, and water beds. 13. On an electric stove, cook on the back burners instead of the front, whenever you can. 14. Find hot spots in your home or office with the use of a gauss meter to measure EMR in the extremely low frequency effect window associated with electricity. 15. Measure EMR (ELF and information carrying radio waves from wireless devices) with an Electrosmog Detector, professional RF meter or gauss meter. When there are high readings, take steps to eliminate the EMR and mitigate the effects. To minimize adverse health effects of electromagnetic radiation, especially if you are sensitive or prone to debilitating symptoms: 1. Minimize your use of the computer, and make sure it has hard-wired Internet access - not wireless. Avoid using, or being exposed to, cell or cordless telephones, as much as you can. (The base of cordless phones emits high levels of EMR - even when no one is making a call.) As a safer alternative, use corded landline telephones. 2. Minimize or eliminate intake of caffeine and alcoholic beverages, especially hard liquor. A glass of wine once in a while may be fine, preferably low or no sulfite added varieties. 3. Try to stay out of areas with bright, artificial lights. Use subdued light or candle light as much as possible. When you retire at night, try to sleep in the dark as much as possible. 4. Try also to stay out of the sun and if you must travel outside, carry a small umbrella or wear a hat for protection. 5. Avoid listening to loud music or loud noises. Mellow music will be good -- any music that will bring a sense of quiet peace will be helpful. Taking some daily, personal silence time is also highly recommended. 6. Stay out of areas where there is WiFi or other wireless signaling. Those information carrying radio waves will trigger a response. 7. Eat a diet of primarily fresh, organic fruits and vegetables. For the time being,
Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Why Did I Get Married? No. 1 at Box Office,
I can't watch it either. What was the TBS commitment? something like 150 episodes?Very Strange. How are the ratings? Martin wrote: Said, that would be my mother, sister and niece. Religiously. And you're right, it is painful. Said Kakese Dibinga [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:drcsaid%40yahoo.com wrote: House of Payne is just painful..no pun intended. I haven't met anyone that likes the program. Its just...just...I can't think of a word. But hey, he parlayed his success into a bunch load of episodes I just can't watch it, its horrible... But somebody is watching it... Said.. www.onceuponatimeinthecongo.com __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com http://mail.yahoo.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] There is no reason Good can't triumph over Evil, if only angels will get organized along the lines of the Mafia. -Kurt Vonnegut, A Man Without A Country __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com http://mail.yahoo.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [scifinoir2] FW: [Blackfolks] Electromagnetic Radiation:Intervention Recommendations from the Safe Wireless Initiative
4. Try to avoid keeping your cell phone in your pocket or on your hip all day. The hip is responsible for producing 80% of the red blood cells in the body and that area is especially vulnerable to EMR damage. Martin wrote: I've always worn my cell on my left hip, since I'm left-handed. Wonder if I should ask my doctor about this when I see him on the 1st. Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:tdlists%40multiculturaladvantage.com wrote: From what I've read it does not start affecting you with tumors until you have used them excessively for 10 years straight holding the phone on the same side of your face. Even then, your likelihood tumors increases, significantly. It does not mean you will definitely get a tumor. Martin wrote: Actually, I haven't noticed *any* ill effects. I'm healthier than I've ever been. Reece Jennings wrote: Wow. Damage done, huh? I had a tumor removed from my left jaw back in '04. Benign. I used to keep my cellphone under my left uniform shirt epaulet (sp) when I was a Law Enforcement Officer. I mean a cop. I don't do that anymore. But I DO still keep it on my belt. Maurice Jennings Have you or someone you know been threatened with foreclosure? KEEP your home and Stop Foreclosure in its Tracks! Get a Free, No Obligation Evaluation = http://www.legacyhomesavers.com http://www.legacyhomesavers.com _ From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of Martin Sent: Friday, October 19, 2007 10:45 AM To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] FW: [Blackfolks] Electromagnetic Radiation:Intervention Recommendations from the Safe Wireless Initiative Number 4 comes about sixteen years too late for me... Reece Jennings yahoo.com wrote: Electromagnetic Radiation: Intervention Recommendations from the Safe Wireless Initiative To minimize dangerous electromagnetic radiation from your personal environment: 1. Keep your cell phone at least 6-7 inches away from the body while it is on. 2. Use an air tube, not wired or wireless, headset or speaker mode, as much as possible. 3. Keep the cell phone turned completely off when not in use. 4. Try to avoid keeping your cell phone in your pocket or on your hip all day. The hip is responsible for producing 80% of the red blood cells in the body and that area is especially vulnerable to EMR damage. 5. Replace cordless phones with corded landlines wherever possible. 6. Minimize exposure to all wireless technology and other electric devices or equipment. Hard-wire your computer for Internet access, instead of wireless access. 7. Nutritional supplementation is showing significant protective effects from melatonin and vitamins C and E in averting oxidative stress. 8. Install various EMR filters to electrical circuits and appliances. 9. Use appropriate preventive technologies as often as possible. 10. Never talk on a cell phone or cordless home phone when you are pregnant or with a baby or small child in your arms. 11. Move your alarm clock radio at least 3 feet from your head, 6 feet is recommended. 12. Keep your sleep zone as low EMR as possible; avoid electric, metal-framed, and water beds. 13. On an electric stove, cook on the back burners instead of the front, whenever you can. 14. Find hot spots in your home or office with the use of a gauss meter to measure EMR in the extremely low frequency effect window associated with electricity. 15. Measure EMR (ELF and information carrying radio waves from wireless devices) with an Electrosmog Detector, professional RF meter or gauss meter. When there are high readings, take steps to eliminate the EMR and mitigate the effects. To minimize adverse health effects of electromagnetic radiation, especially if you are sensitive or prone to debilitating symptoms: 1. Minimize your use of the computer, and make sure it has hard-wired Internet access - not wireless. Avoid using, or being exposed to, cell or cordless telephones, as much as you can. (The base of cordless phones emits high levels of EMR - even when no one is making a call.) As a safer alternative, use corded landline telephones. 2. Minimize or eliminate intake of caffeine and alcoholic beverages, especially hard liquor. A glass of wine once in a while may be fine, preferably low or no sulfite added varieties. 3. Try to stay out of areas with bright, artificial lights. Use subdued light or candle light as much as possible. When you retire at night, try to sleep in the dark as much as possible. 4. Try also to stay out of the sun and if you must travel outside, carry a small umbrella or wear a hat
Re: [scifinoir2] Karl Urban Play's Trek's Mc Coy
Hey you guys, what are you thinking, they are all over 21. Daryle wrote: Now Martin, you know Gary Sinise is Spock and John Malcovich is McCoy. What kind of Fantasy Trek caster are you? Btw, you forgot to re-cast the voice of the computer. I got Cree Summer in my cast. You know, why has nobody picked up the Gary Seven storyline yet? ³Assignment: Earth² was supposed to be the ORIGINAL Trek spin-off. I wonder what ever happened to that? ³Assignment: Earth² one of the few time travel episodes that¹s actually any good, and the books actually have Gary interacting with the Supermen (Khan¹s crew) during the Eugenics Wars. How did we skip all of this great stuff and get to Star Trek: 90210? On 10/19/07 11:51 AM, Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:truthseeker_013%40yahoo.com wrote: Okay, can't keep this in my pocket anymore. My Trek casting... Kirk- Matt Damon Spock- I had Billy Zane in mind, but I'll live with the Sylar guy McCoy- Gary Sinise Scotty- Ewam McGrtegor Sulu- Jason Lee (played Bruce Lee in the biopic) Chekov- Matthew Broderick Uhura- Angela Bassett (pausing to wipe away drool) If I left off anyone, let me know. Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:tdlists%40multiculturaladvantage.com mailto:tdlists%40multiculturaladvantage.com wrote: Obvious they must be rewriting the character Urban Is Trek's New Bones The Hollywood Reporter confirmed a rumor, first posted on TrekMovie.com, that New Zealand actor Karl Urban (Doom, The Lord of the Rings) will play Dr. Leonard Bones McCoy in J.J. Abrams' upcoming Star Trek. The role was played by DeForest Kelley in the original Star Trek TV show and subsequent films. Urban becomes the latest young actor to join the film's reported cast, which features Chris Pine as Capt. James T. Kirk and Heroes' Zachary Quinto as Spock. The cast also includes Eric Bana, Simon Pegg, Anton Yelchin, Zoe Saldana and John Cho, as well as original Spock Leonard Nimoy. Star Trek will begin production next month with an eye to a Christmas 2008 release. http://www.scifi.com/scifiwire/index.php?category=0id=44797 http://www.scifi.com/scifiwire/index.php?category=0id=44797 http://www.scifi.com/scifiwire/index.php?category=0amp;id=44797 http://www.scifi.com/scifiwire/index.php?category=0amp;id=44797 Yahoo! Groups Links There is no reason Good can't triumph over Evil, if only angels will get organized along the lines of the Mafia. -Kurt Vonnegut, A Man Without A Country __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com http://mail.yahoo.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Why Did I Get Married? No. 1 at Box Office,
I had a feeling... :) Daryle wrote: Jill is the best thing in this cast. Janet was a clear second. Jill Scott has a great future ahead of her. I was very impressed. On 10/19/07 8:02 PM, Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:tdlists%40multiculturaladvantage.com wrote: I was happy to see that he used Janet and Jill Scott. Janet was to do a Lena Horne Bio pic before the whole super bowl mess and I feared she would never get in film again. Now that he has taken a chance, maybe overs will. I'bve always been a big Jill Scott Fan. How did she do? That aside, I appreciate Tylers success, he's using his gifts. I don't think the film sold on his name alone or just because he was in the film, I feel that the film sold because of the other cast members as well. Its sad to read magazines that for the most part don't even acknowledge the other cast members who brought something to the mix. Said www.onceuponatimeinthecongo.com Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[scifinoir2] [Fwd: film on African alphabets]
--- Original Message Subject:film on African alphabets Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2007 17:01:02 -0500 From: Jeremy Rich, Middle Tennessee State University [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: H-NET List for African History and Culture [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Friday, 19 October 2007 From: Don Osborn [EMAIL PROTECTED] - FYI, just saw this in a brochure for First Run / Icarus Films (distributed in materials for participants at the ASA conf.) - it is also on the web at http://www.frif.com/new2005/brul.htmlhttp://www.frif.com/new2005/brul.html. Hadn't heard of this before, but it is another example of Africa as a continent of many alphabets: Bruly Boubaré's Alphabet A film by Nurith Aviv In n the 1950's, Ivory Coast artist Frederic Bruly Bouabré created several hundred pictograms, based on one-syllable words in his language, Bété, to help people in the Bété community learn to read more quickly. Although some 600,000 Bétés live in the Ivory Coast, their language is not taught in schools, and all education is conducted in French. Bouabré's 400 pictograms, in various combinations, provide a playful yet tangible method of instruction, as demonstrated in BRULY BOUABRE'S ALPHABET. As the now elderly Bouabré explains, his aim was to form a specific African writing from scenes of human life. Today a small number of people continue to use Bruly's alphabet, and museums around the world have exhibited his drawings. [Bouabré] deciphers the world as a visual text, creating a comprehensive guide to everything and everyone. Over decades Bouabre created a visual manuscript, an art manifesto, of life, death and everything; a metaphysically sympathetic curation of the entire modern world as it relates to our needs [and manipulated our superstitions and our prejudices, re-categorizing our world to defy them. - BBC [Bouabré's work] reveals the universal need to make some kind of sense of the confusions of contemporary politics and culture. But while... the symbols are bursting with data, interpretations are left entirely to the viewer. In the end, these herculean efforts to create order only confirm the elusiveness of genuine knowledge or certainty. - Art in America ** 2006 Society for Visual Anthropology Film Festival ** 2005 African Studies Association Film Festival ÊÊÊ 17 minutes / color Release Date: 2005 Copyright Date: 2005 Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[scifinoir2] Star Wars TV Closer To Becoming A Reality
Star Wars TV Closer To Becoming A Reality http://syfyportal.com/news424311.html By ROBIN BROWNFIELD Source: Zap2it Oct-17-2007 Rumors about an impending live-action TV show based on the Star Wars universe have been circling the globe for several years. It seems now that those rumors may become reality. George Lucas has just begun work on a Star Wars universe TV show, though it will be far different than the six movies that have helped define science-fiction at the theater. The Skywalkers aren't in it, and it's about minor characters, Lucas said in an interview. It has nothing to do with Luke Skywalker or Darth Vader or any of those people. It's completely different. But it's a good idea, and it's going to be a lot of fun to do. Anticipation of a Lucas TV project got new life at the 2006 Comic-Con, when Lucasfilm announced a show would be on the air later in this decade. Lucas wouldn't divulge any details slip about the premise of the series, but did joke that it would be about the life of robots. The Star Wars universe has continued over the years in Lucas-sanctioned novels, comics and games focusing on the history of the Jedi and minor characters in the films, such as the bounty hunters from The Empire Strikes Back. Another Lucas television series has also been in the works. Lucas Animation has been developing Star Wars: The Clone Wars, a computer-animated series with trademark Lucas visuals. Lucas plans to produce it through his own companies before presenting the finished product to television networks. While George Lucas has a name and a history that one might think TV excutives would give their first-born for to have grace their networks, Lucas himself seems to express both confidence and doubt about finding a place for his droids and Jedi. He knows the projects are not typical television. They are having a hard time, Lucas said. They're saying, 'This doesn't fit into our little square boxes,' and I say, 'Well, yeah, but it's Star Wars. And Star Wars doesn't fit into that box.' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [scifinoir2] Why Did I Get Married? No. 1 at Box Office,
I agree totally that he is opening the door for others, hopefully, it won't be for one type of film. My bias is based on what I have seen in the past. so, I will keep an open mind. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i'm not as concerned about Perry's films as many of y'all are. I do understand the fear that a certain type of film will become the standard: that Hollywood white and black will say This is the formula and produce countless clones. Valid fear, 'cause God knows I still cringe at what happened after the critical and box office success of Boyz in the hood and Menace 2 Society. All of a suddent hood movies become as plentiful as mushrooms. I was afraid that Medea was going to be all over the place... But, look at Why Did I Get Married? compared to the Medea movies. It moves away from the slapstick of the cross-dressing Perry, and from what I hear, minimizes some of the more obvious slapstick elements of Medea. In other words, it moved a ways toward being a more serious study of Black relationships. And yet it still made major bank, based on Perry's name. Next year he could do a great romantic comedy like Love Jones, or he could do a straight up drama with a black man and woman0--and people would come. Perry alone could help bring serious black movies to the big screen, and maybe doing it in steps like this will help black audiences learn to expect more than Medea. And as Perry brings us along and the money keeps rolling in, I can see other black directors trying their hand at it too. Sure, some--most, in fact--will fall by the wayside. Many won't make much dough. But I really see what he's doing as functioning as another door opener like Spike Lee. When it comes to serious black films, the doors only open a crack, unfortunately, but it's still open. I'm excited about what Perry will do, which I choose to see as making the way more more and different films, not closing it. but I could be wrong... -- Original message -- From: Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:tdlists%40multiculturaladvantage.com I do not remember Spike lee's movies beating out the blockbusters by almost doubling their take. This a major milestone in Black film. He has surpassed Lee. --Not to negate the fact that Lee paved the way for him and others. With Blacks representing 90% of the audience, it seems that he is delivering what Black moviegoers, in general, want to see. Regarding Tim Story and The Fantastic Four, we are talking apples and oranges. Daryl, I don't claim to know you, by I do know your posting personality. The Daryl I know, knows the difference between the weaknesses of Fantastic Four and the fear of how the success of Perry's movies will impact Black film in a way similar to what is going on with Black books. By the Spike Spike lee's impact on the movie industry has been huge. He started the trend of doing movies on shoe string budget and then getting them distributed. I've seen at least four shoestring movies this year that have won prestigious awards. I think Lee and Redford are a major reason that is possible. My fear stems from the fact he is serving a huge demand. Demand often drives the industry. Spike Lee's movies, while popular, never had that type of demand. Perry is just giving the public where they want. That's simply good business... whether I like it or not Daryle wrote: Tyler Perry is the new Spike Lee. Nothing more, nothing less. Spike did movies to get people talking and bring the community out. It worked. If we're gonna be worried about a Black director's success making it hard for more serious Black filmmakers.. .what about Tim Story? On 10/16/07 8:07 PM, Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) wrote: 90% of the audiences were Black. I think his name carries weight in a lot of circles of the African American community. Unfortunately, I fear you are right in your prediction of a large volume of embarrassing Black films that are similar to some of the books you refer to. I hope that without Perry's name on the marquee, success won't be guaranteed. Unfortunately, I fear that is a long-run. ravenadal wrote: Tyler Perry's Why Did I Get Married? is number one at the box office, taking in $21.4, almost twice as much as this weekend's No. 2 film, The Game Plan. While I wish Mr. Perry all the best, his success (this is his third number one at the box office) does not bode well for serious black filmmakers, or black filmmakers in general. His success will lead to something similar to the embarrassing black publishing boom in large part spawned by the success of Terry McMillan. I am personally curious as to why Why Did I Get Married? struck gold with black (and white) movie-goers while Chris Rock's I
[scifinoir2] Damon Prepared To Take on 'Bourne' Identity Again
Damon Prepared To Take on 'Bourne' Identity Again Matt Damon indicated Wednesday that he would make another Bourne sequel if only to express his gratitude. In an interview in Tokyo with the French news agency Agence France Presse, Damon said, Personally, the character means a lot to me because the character has done so much for my career. You know, it put me in the position where I have a lot more choices of kind of movies I want to make. He said that if director Paul Greengrass asked him to take on the character again, then I would do it, too. ... I don't think either of us completely put the character to bed yet. http://www.imdb.com/news/sb/2007-10-18/#3 Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[scifinoir2] Karl Urban Play's Trek's Mc Coy
Obvious they must be rewriting the character Urban Is Trek's New Bones The Hollywood Reporter confirmed a rumor, first posted on TrekMovie.com, that New Zealand actor Karl Urban (Doom, The Lord of the Rings) will play Dr. Leonard Bones McCoy in J.J. Abrams' upcoming Star Trek. The role was played by DeForest Kelley in the original Star Trek TV show and subsequent films. Urban becomes the latest young actor to join the film's reported cast, which features Chris Pine as Capt. James T. Kirk and Heroes' Zachary Quinto as Spock. The cast also includes Eric Bana, Simon Pegg, Anton Yelchin, Zoe Saldana and John Cho, as well as original Spock Leonard Nimoy. Star Trek will begin production next month with an eye to a Christmas 2008 release. http://www.scifi.com/scifiwire/index.php?category=0id=44797 Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [scifinoir2] Keep Pushing (ABC's Pushing Daisies wilts but wins time slot)
Because of talk on this list, I've checked out both shows. I like them both. Sorry to hear about Reaper. ravenadal wrote: Pushing Daisies wilted 21% to 10.3 million viewers for second episode, but it won its time slot, held steady among viewers ages 18-34 and grew among young women, topping America's Top Model. Meanwhile, back at the big box store, Reaper came in last in its time slot, even losing out to Destilando Amor on Univision, drawing a paltry 2.6 million viewers. ~rave! __ The Black Prince. The Black Church. A State of Mind. http://www.theworldebon.com http://www.theworldebon.com Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[scifinoir2] Update Re: DNA Pioneer Claims Africans Less Intelligent than Whites
Nobelist's Race Comments Spark Outrage and Gets Suspended From Job By MALCOLM RITTER – 37 minutes ago NEW YORK (AP) — James Watson, the 79-year-old scientific icon made famous by his work in DNA, has set off an international furor with comments to a London newspaper about intelligence levels among blacks. The renowned Cold Spring Harbor Laboratory, where Watson served as chancellor, suspended his administrative responsibilities Thursday following the outcry, the laboratory said in a news release. Watson has a history of provocative statements about social implications of science. But several friends said Thursday he's no racist. And Watson, who won a Nobel Prize in 1962 for co-discovering the structure of DNA, apologized and says he's mortified. A profile of Watson in the Sunday Times Magazine of London quoted him as saying that he's inherently gloomy about the prospect of Africa because all our social policies are based on the fact that their intelligence is the same as ours — whereas all the testing says not really. While he hopes everyone is equal, people who have to deal with black employees find this is not true, Watson is quoted as saying. He also said people should not be discriminated against on the basis of color, because there are many people of color who are very talented. The comments, reprinted Wednesday in a front-page article in another British newspaper, The Independent, provoked a sharp reaction. London's Science Museum canceled a sold-out lecture he was to give there Friday. The mayor of London, Ken Livingstone, said his comments represent racist propaganda masquerading as scientific fact That a man of such academic distinction could make such ignorant comments, which are utterly offensive and incorrect and give succor to the most backward in our society, demonstrates why racism still has to be fought. In the United States, the Federation of American Scientists said it was outraged that Watson chose to use his unique stature to promote personal prejudices that are racist, vicious and unsupported by science. And Watson's employer said he wasn't speaking for the Cold Spring Harbor research facility on Long Island, where the board and administration vehemently disagree with these statements and are bewildered and saddened if he indeed made such comments. Watson is in Britain to promote his new book, Avoid Boring People, and a publicist for his British publisher provided this statement Thursday to The Associated Press: I am mortified about what has happened, Watson said. More importantly, I cannot understand how I could have said what I am quoted as having said. I can certainly understand why people, reading those words, have reacted in the ways they have. To all those who have drawn the inference from my words that Africa, as a continent, is somehow genetically inferior, I can only apologize unreservedly. That is not what I meant. More importantly from my point of view, there is no scientific basis for such a belief. Watson's publicist, Kate Farquhar-Thomson, would not address whether Watson was suggesting he was misquoted. You have the statement. That's it, I'm afraid, she said. A spokesman for The Sunday Times said that the interview with Watson was recorded and that the newspaper stood by the story. Watson's new book also touches on possible racial differences in IQ, though it doesn't go as far as the newspaper interview. In the book, Watson raises the prospect of discovering genes that significantly affect a person's intelligence. ...There is no firm reason to anticipate that the intellectual capacities of peoples geographically separated in their evolution should prove to have evolved identically, Watson wrote. Our wanting to reserve equal powers of reason as some universal heritage of humanity will not be enough to make it so. Watson is no stranger to making waves with his scientific views. In 2000, in a speech at the University of California, Berkeley, he suggested that sex drive is related to skin color. That's why you have Latin lovers, he said, according to people who attended. You've never heard of an English lover. Only an English patient. Some years earlier he was quoted in a newspaper as saying, If you could find the gene which determines sexuality and a woman decides she doesn't want a homosexual child, well, let her. Jim has a penchant for making outrageous comments that are basically poking society in the eye, Dr. Francis Collins, director of the National Human Genome Research Institute, said Thursday. Collins, who has known Watson for a long time, said his latest comments really ... carried it this time to a much more hurtful level. In a brief telephone interview, Collins told The AP that Watson's statements are the wildest form of speculation in a field where such speculation ought not to be engaged in. Genetic factors for intelligence show no difference from one part of the world to another,
Re: [scifinoir2] Barbarella dropped because of Rose McGowan
You know you do want to know. (smirk) I bet you are checkin out a rerun of Charmed right now. Daryle wrote: I'll let that Jessica and Halle quote go, but I did get a chuckle out of it. Thanks, Tracey. Approving $82 million dollars for a remake of Barbarella starring Rose McGowan is a surefire way to lose your job. I don't (wanna) know what Rose is doing to turn his head around, but Rodriguez needs to snap out of it quick. On 10/18/07 5:47 PM, Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:tdlists%40multiculturaladvantage.com wrote: Barbarella Seeks New Home Did Uni drop Rodriguez remake over budget or Rose? by Stax http://movies.ign.com/articles/827/827975p1.html http://movies.ign.com/articles/827/827975p1.html October 17, 2007 - Universal Pictures has dropped director Robert Rodriguez's planned remake of the sci-fi cult classic Barbarella, leading the filmmaker to shop the project to other studios. But Universal's reason for backing out of the film is a matter of dispute, as a new report that suggests it was either over a ballooning budget or the casting of Rodriguez's girlfriend Rose McGowan in the title role. According to an unnamed source for The New York Observer, It's sort of embarrassing for everyone involved. ... No one thinks Rose can carry the movie, but Robert won't listen. The paper adds that producer Dino De Laurentiis wants to back Robert and his vision. But Robert's vision is blurred by Rose. The studio reportedly wants a bigger name star such as Halle Berry or Jessica Alba. Rodriguez disputes this claim, saying they were blown over by McGowan's audition and citing the project's ballooning budget as the reason for Universal's pullout. Universal had initially signed on for $60 million, Rodriguez explained, but then when we were done with the script it wound up at closer to $82 million, and they had just financed a Will Ferrell movie [Land of the Lost] that was a $130 million and they even cut that down to $100. The filmmaker says Universal is still willing to fund the film for $60 million, but Rodriguez believes he can't make Barbarella for that price because of all the special effects that are required. Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[scifinoir2] Swearing at work 'boosts team spirt, morale
Swearing at work 'boosts team spirt, morale http://rawstory.com/news/afp/Swearing_at_work_boosts_team_spirt__10172007.html Regular swearing at work can help boost team spirit among staff, allowing them to express better their feelings as well as develop social relationships, according to a study by researchers. Yehuda Baruch, a professor of management at the University of East Anglia, and graduate Stuart Jenkins studied the use of profanity in the workplace and assessed its implications for managers. They assessed that swearing would become more common as traditional taboos are broken down, but the key appeared to be knowing when such language was appropriate and when to turn to blind eye. The pair said swearing in front of senior staff or customers should be seriously discouraged or banned, but in other circumstances it helped foster solidarity among employees and express frustration, stress or other feelings. Employees use swearing on a continuous basis, but not necessarily in a negative, abusive manner, said Baruch, who works in the university's business school in Norwich. Banning swear words and reprimanding staff might represent strong leadership, but could remove key links between staff and impact on morale and motivation, he said. We hope that this study will serve not only to acknowledge the part that swearing plays in our work and our lives, but also to indicate that leaders sometimes need to 'think differently' and be open to intriguing ideas. Managers need to understand how their staff feel about swearing. The challenge is to master the 'art' of knowing when to turn a blind eye to communication that does not meet their own standards. The study, Swearing at work and permissive leadership culture: when anti-social becomes social and incivility is acceptable, is published in the latest issue of the Leadership and Organisational Development Journal. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[scifinoir2] Strike Threat Keeps Losing Series on Air
The increasing probability that a strike by the Writers Guild of America against the major TV and film studios will occur next month has redounded to the benefit of producers of new television shows that performed below par during their first month on the air, Broadcasting Cable observed today (Monday). The trade publication noted that a strike threat has particularly helped such struggling shows as CBS's Cane, Fox's K-Ville and ABC's Big Shots. Preston Beckman, head of program planning for Fox, appeared to represent the thinking of other network executives when he told BC: If I cancel a show now and put something in its place, I have eight unaired episodes of that show. ... We would rather stick with what we have and have [a potential replacement show] to hold on to for a strike. Otherwise, if there is a strike, I net out with eight fewer original hours. http://www.imdb.com/news/sb/2007-10-15/ Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [scifinoir2] Why Did I Get Married? No. 1 at Box Office,
90% of the audiences were Black. I think his name carries weight in a lot of circles of the African American community. Unfortunately, I fear you are right in your prediction of a large volume of embarrassing Black films that are similar to some of the books you refer to. I hope that without Perry's name on the marquee, success won't be guaranteed. Unfortunately, I fear that is a long-run. ravenadal wrote: Tyler Perry's Why Did I Get Married? is number one at the box office, taking in $21.4, almost twice as much as this weekend's No. 2 film, The Game Plan. While I wish Mr. Perry all the best, his success (this is his third number one at the box office) does not bode well for serious black filmmakers, or black filmmakers in general. His success will lead to something similar to the embarrassing black publishing boom in large part spawned by the success of Terry McMillan. I am personally curious as to why Why Did I Get Married? struck gold with black (and white) movie-goers while Chris Rock's I Think I Love My Wife, tanked. Married unseen, I am confident Wife is a better, more accomplished movie. ~rave! Actually, I think its the same syndrome as the Black Movie industry. Movies like Soul Plane get multi-million dollar promotion while movies like Why Did I Get Married don't. To paraphrase Marshall McCluan(sp?) - the media don't tell us that to think, but they *do* tell us what to think about. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [scifinoir2] Why Did I Get Married? No. 1 at Box Office,
I just want to add, that while I'm not a Perry fan, I do get a kick out of the fact that he was not even on the radar of the analysts and yet he topped the list. He's laughing all the way to the bank. ravenadal wrote: Tyler Perry's Why Did I Get Married? is number one at the box office, taking in $21.4, almost twice as much as this weekend's No. 2 film, The Game Plan. While I wish Mr. Perry all the best, his success (this is his third number one at the box office) does not bode well for serious black filmmakers, or black filmmakers in general. His success will lead to something similar to the embarrassing black publishing boom in large part spawned by the success of Terry McMillan. I am personally curious as to why Why Did I Get Married? struck gold with black (and white) movie-goers while Chris Rock's I Think I Love My Wife, tanked. Married unseen, I am confident Wife is a better, more accomplished movie. ~rave! Actually, I think its the same syndrome as the Black Movie industry. Movies like Soul Plane get multi-million dollar promotion while movies like Why Did I Get Married don't. To paraphrase Marshall McCluan(sp?) - the media don't tell us that to think, but they *do* tell us what to think about. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[scifinoir2] McKellen Would Do Hobbit
Ian McKellen, who is wrapping up the American leg of his world tour in King Lear, told the Reuters news service that he wouldn't mind reprising the role of Gandalf in the proposed The Hobbit, should it happen. Relations between New Line Cinema and Lord of the Rings helmer Peter Jackson have been thawing, opening the door for Jackson to direct the prequel film, based on J.R.R. Tolkien's book. McKellen told Reuters that he was rooting for Jackson to direct The Hobbit but said he had the Oscar-winning director's blessing to play Gandalf one way or the other. When Peter announced he had withdrawn from The Hobbit, he sent me an e-mail saying 'Because I am not going to do it, it doesn't mean you have to do the same,' McKellen said. 'Of course, you must play Gandalf whether I direct or not.' McKellen added: I am glad to read that it is looking more and more likely. ... I would be disappointed if they didn't want to have the original Gandalf. I suppose if I am still functioning and working well, it is very likely I would be asked to do it, and if I were, I would be very pleased to do it. http://www.scifi.com/scifiwire/index.php?category=0id=44711 Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [scifinoir2] Eric Bana Cast As Bad Guy Nero In New 'Trek' Film
What's weird, is that I hated his character at the start of the series, because he reminded me of Bush (albeit what Bush would look like if he were normal). By this end he was one of my favorite characters. I think they did it for shock value and because their anger at the publics rejection of the Berman vision. They left several characters unexplored - Lt Reed, Hoshi, and Mayweather, but the did a good job with trip - at least up until the end [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It would have been nice to leave Trip alive for potential use in a film or two. You know, a little foresight and consideration of future possibilities. I know, I know - I ask for too much when I expect that from the team that destroyed a golden opportunity for an awesome series, with a rich future history from the prior series' story arcs to build upon. What am I thinking? __ James Landrith [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:james%40jameslandrith.com cell: 703-593-2065 * fax: 760-875-8547 AIM: jlnales * ICQ: 148600159 MSN and Yahoo! Messenger: jlandrith http://www.linkedin.com/in/jlandrith http://www.linkedin.com/in/jlandrith http://www.jameslandrith.com http://www.jameslandrith.com http://www.multiracial.com http://www.multiracial.com http://www.multiracial.com/abolitionist/ http://www.multiracial.com/abolitionist/ __ Oh god, I hated that, but with a series that thrives in reruns, it leaves a terrible aftertaste when you watch it knowing it is coming. What were they thinking? [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:KeithBJohnson%40comcast.net wrote: Still, much promise in Enterprise, which fortunately got much better toward the end of its run--if you excuse the horrible idea to kill Trip, and the series finale--one of the worst eps in all of Trekdom. by the way, great to hear from you James. Miss your commentary. Where you been?! Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [scifinoir2] Eric Bana Cast As Bad Guy Nero In New 'Trek' Film
Oh god, I hated that, but with a series that thrives in reruns, it leaves a terrible aftertaste when you watch it knowing it is coming. What were they thinking? [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Still, much promise in Enterprise, which fortunately got much better toward the end of its run--if you excuse the horrible idea to kill Trip, and the series finale--one of the worst eps in all of Trekdom. by the way, great to hear from you James. Miss your commentary. Where you been?! -- Original message -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] They were likely afraid to tackle such a scene. I wondered why the pink skin moniker was even necessary. They could have come up with a different way of expressing the difference between the two species. Maybe something to do with the lack of antenna? __ James Landrith [EMAIL PROTECTED] cell: 703-593-2065 * fax: 760-875-8547 AIM: jlnales * ICQ: 148600159 MSN and Yahoo! Messenger: jlandrith http://www.linkedin.com/in/jlandrith http://www.jameslandrith.com http://www.multiracial.com http://www.multiracial.com/abolitionist/ __ yeah, but I have to say, as a Black man, i got tired of pink skin always being used to describe Archer, and by extension, all humans. I kept wondering what the Andorian captain would see if he'd had to talk to Mayweather or maybe Hoshi. Would he have called Travis brown skin, dark skin, or Chocolate child, perhaps? But the writers never gave me that scene! :) -- Original message -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] And one of the highlights of the Enterprise series. __ James Landrith [EMAIL PROTECTED] cell: 703-593-2065 * fax: 760-875-8547 AIM: jlnales * ICQ: 148600159 MSN and Yahoo! Messenger: jlandrith http://www.linkedin.com/in/jlandrith http://www.jameslandrith.com http://www.multiracial.com http://www.multiracial.com/abolitionist/ __ don't think Andorians are bad guys. they're among the founders of the Federation -- Original message -- From: Daryle [EMAIL PROTECTED] Alright, I¹ll ask first: Who/what is a ³Nero²? Have we not learned from Star Trek movies 1, 5, 9, and 10 that making up bad guys when there are about five bad guys that were used once and thrown away = bad Star Trek? Everyone knows Star Trek is Federation = good guys and Klingons/Romulans/Andorians/Tholians = bad guys. I would ALMOST (read that ALMOST) rather they try and tie Q into the story than this. This is gonna be Nemesis as told with TOS characters. On 10/11/07 4:59 PM, Brent Wodehouse [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.trektoday.com/news/101007_02.shtml Eric Bana Cast As Bad Guy Nero In New 'Trek' Film By Christian October 10, 2007 Paramount Pictures today officially announced Eric Bana will be playing the role of bad guy Nero in the new Star Trek film. Previous rumors had suggested director J.J. Abrams wanted to cast Russel Crowe or Karl Urban as the film's main villain, but by casting Bana his goal of casting a big-name actor for the role seems to have been fulfilled. Bana had starring roles in blockbusters such as Hulk, Troy and Munich, and will next year appear opposite Natalie Portman Scarlett Johansson in The Other Boleyn Girl. Beyond the name of Nero for Bana's character, no other details on the film's main villain were revealed. In fact, the Hollywood Reporter noted today that shrouded in so much secrecy, that many of the film's roles were in fact offered to actors without even offering them a script to read. Abrams apparently worked the same way for his upcoming monster movie Cloverfield. Eric Bana was born in Australia 39 years ago as Eric Banadinovich. After building his career on the Australian sketch comedy show Full Frontal and spending a decade making acclaimed Australian movies, Bana moved over to the US when director Ridley Scott cast him in Black Hawk Down. In this film, he appeared opposite Tom Hardy, who played Shinzon on Star Trek: Nemesis. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To
Re: sexism derailing Females in Comic Films Re: [scifinoir2] JLA Plot Confirmed
What distresses me is that when I look at movies and TV series in made in the past, even though youthfulness was worshiped, the cast seemed to represent a wider range of ages. Now, more often than not, the hero and the heroine reflect the Beverly Hills 90210 crowd, as you pointed out earlier. Seeing a female over 30 is becoming a rarity. It used to bug me a little how in anime most of the heroines were under 18. Now it seems like Hollywood is headed in that direction. When they do on occasion cast an older male lead, you often have a female leads who are significantly younger. If he is sixty and she is forty, then in their minds, they hired an older woman. Funny thing... the networks and the theaters are hemorrhaging audiences. I wonder if this demographic targeting has anything to do with it. Maybe their target market is pretty much who is going to the theatre and pretty much who are watching. Maybe cable is gaining because that are targeting other and broader groups. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: no, you're right, that's why I emphasized it's what *some* of us want, not all. I agree young (white) guys think Jessica Alba is hot. So in that way, you're right in that Hollywood is connected, but they are disconnected from people like me. But as you say, they don't care about me. I noticed that even more glaringly in Transformers, which, frankly, the more I think about, the less I like. I pretty much hate most of what Michael Bay does because it's so superficial and calculated. Now, Transformers has the most amazing special effects of the year. The robots look amazing, some fo the fight scenes are off the hook. There's a few funny moments. But i honestly remembered gagging and being bored throughout much of the movie because of the lame plot and acting. And the lead girl is beautiful, no doubt, but so obviously out of place it's funny. That's okay: she's the star. But there's even women in the background who look like models for no reason! There's two women in a car that are shown for about three seconds. Models. One really illogical shot of a woman in distress in the street, staring at the fighting. She's got on a blue, flimsy dress that's flapping in the wind, her hair is perfect, and she is gorgeous. The scene is so incongruous I had to laugh. I kept thinking man, aside from the robots, this movie sucks, and Bay's got nothing approaching a deft touch. But everyone says how great it was, and when I complained of the poor writing and acting, looked at me like I had a third eye. (To be fair, think I gave it an A, but only for the FX). So you're right, Hollywood pleases those it wants to pleases -- Original message -- From: Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] But Keith, to be brutally honest, you have to remember, they don't care what you are attracted to. They are after young guys and I don't get it. Most young guys don't have as much money or disposable income as those older than them. Are you sure young guys are not attracted to them. If you read the boards at Internet movie database, you might think otherwise. Whether they are attracted to them because Hollywood tells them to or because they are genuinely attracted to them, their response in polls, surveys and posting ,negate what you say. Unfortunately, there is not a disconnect. Hollywood has stopped trying to please most of the people most of the time and opted instead to please a very small targeted group most of the time. a sad state of affairs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i think there's a disconnect and schism between what *some* of us want, and what Hollywood thinks we want. For example, i see the likes of Jessica Alba, Halle Berry, and Jessica Biel thrown about all the time, and usually it's frankly just because some people think they're super hot. Yet, despite the ridiculous image of females in comics (all with impossibly large breasts on improbably thin frames with unrealistically long legs) I am much more attracted to *strong* female superheroes than eye candy. Jean Grey is gorgeous in the comics, but I like her more for her strength, kindness, and the Phoenix Force. That's why I'm okay with Famke Jensen as Jean Grey: she has a presence I like. It's also why I hate Halle Berry as Storm: she's okay looking, but she's not a strong screen presence. I don't find Uma Thurman to be exactly gorgeous, but she's a strong, tough actress, and is perfect for Kill Bill. It's also why I seem to be alone in thinking that Angelina Jolie--who can be a strong actress--would make a better candidate for a spy franchise starring a woman than many other women bandied about. it's not about Jolie's looks, but her acting ability. Comics and comic-based films are about fun, action, escapism, and just fun at times, but they still
Re: sexism derailing Females in Comic Films Re: [scifinoir2] JLA Plot Confirmed
Same here. Now it is standard operating procedure. Sigh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeah, i've had problems with this for a while. Something has changed, because I remember when i was a young teen, i didn't expect to see young people my age in all the roles. Of course it was cool to see some teens in good roles, but when I saw spies and soldiers and superheroes and whatnot that were much older than me, it seemed right. I usually accepted that with age came experience and wisdom. Now it's as if being over 21 makes some--especially women--old. -- Original message -- From: Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] What distresses me is that when I look at movies and TV series in made in the past, even though youthfulness was worshiped, the cast seemed to represent a wider range of ages. Now, more often than not, the hero and the heroine reflect the Beverly Hills 90210 crowd, as you pointed out earlier. Seeing a female over 30 is becoming a rarity. It used to bug me a little how in anime most of the heroines were under 18. Now it seems like Hollywood is headed in that direction. When they do on occasion cast an older male lead, you often have a female leads who are significantly younger. If he is sixty and she is forty, then in their minds, they hired an older woman. Funny thing... the networks and the theaters are hemorrhaging audiences. I wonder if this demographic targeting has anything to do with it. Maybe their target market is pretty much who is going to the theatre and pretty much who are watching. Maybe cable is gaining because that are targeting other and broader groups. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: no, you're right, that's why I emphasized it's what *some* of us want, not all. I agree young (white) guys think Jessica Alba is hot. So in that way, you're right in that Hollywood is connected, but they are disconnected from people like me. But as you say, they don't care about me. I noticed that even more glaringly in Transformers, which, frankly, the more I think about, the less I like. I pretty much hate most of what Michael Bay does because it's so superficial and calculated. Now, Transformers has the most amazing special effects of the year. The robots look amazing, some fo the fight scenes are off the hook. There's a few funny moments. But i honestly remembered gagging and being bored throughout much of the movie because of the lame plot and acting. And the lead girl is beautiful, no doubt, but so obviously out of place it's funny. That's okay: she's the star. But there's even women in the background who look like models for no reason! There's two women in a car that are shown for about three seconds. Models. One really illogical shot of a woman in distress in the street, staring at the fighting. She's got on a blue, flimsy dress that's flapping in the wind, her hair is perfect, and she is gorgeous. The scene is so incongruous I had to laugh. I kept thinking man, aside from the robots, this movie sucks, and Bay's got nothing approaching a deft touch. But everyone says how great it was, and when I complained of the poor writing and acting, looked at me like I had a third eye. (To be fair, think I gave it an A, but only for the FX). So you're right, Hollywood pleases those it wants to pleases -- Original message -- From: Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) But Keith, to be brutally honest, you have to remember, they don't care what you are attracted to. They are after young guys and I don't get it. Most young guys don't have as much money or disposable income as those older than them. Are you sure young guys are not attracted to them. If you read the boards at Internet movie database, you might think otherwise. Whether they are attracted to them because Hollywood tells them to or because they are genuinely attracted to them, their response in polls, surveys and posting ,negate what you say. Unfortunately, there is not a disconnect. Hollywood has stopped trying to please most of the people most of the time and opted instead to please a very small targeted group most of the time. a sad state of affairs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i think there's a disconnect and schism between what *some* of us want, and what Hollywood thinks we want. For example, i see the likes of Jessica Alba, Halle Berry, and Jessica Biel thrown about all the time, and usually it's frankly just because some people think they're super hot. Yet, despite the ridiculous image of females in comics (all with impossibly large breasts on improbably thin frames with unrealistically long legs) I am much more attracted to *strong* female superheroes than eye candy. Jean Grey is gorgeous
Re: [scifinoir2] OT: Where I've Been
I'm glad you are ok. Reading your message, felt like an episode of CSI or law and order Tracey g123curious wrote: Tracey had written to me off-list via e-mail asking how I am. I thought that I'd send out a general note. Bottomline: I've been busy with my work and my blog. At work, I have 2 web site re-designs which are launching Oct. 16, 2007. So, I'll be flat out 'til then with long hours in the office. After then, I'll post to SciFiNoir2. In other news... I woke last Thursday night at 3:25 am to the sounds of gun-fire outside my first-floor bedroom window. Boston Police arrived at 3:35 am. Street outside the house next door was littered with shell casings. Car in front of next door had several bullet holes and shell casing on it. Street was taped off and CSI:Boston arrived shortly thereafter and stayed 'til ~5:15 am. To make a long story short, there was a drive- by next door probably involving the knuckleheads who live next door. At least 2 guns were involved and a 9mm slug found its way thru our living room window and came to rest on the floor in front of my wife's computer desk. MOre shell casing found by the side door of the house next door. Obviously, we are working with neighbors and police to get the knuckleheads next door out and/or in jail... whichever we can effect first. Bottomline: my wife and I are okay. No injuries. CSI:Boston uses little numbered cones just like they do on TV. So we had some little numbered cones in our condo, too. All of CSI reps looked like Gil Grissom clones. NONE of them looked like Sarah Sidle, Catherine Willows, or Sofia Curtis. They wouldn't let us take photos. As of last night, one person was arrested next door and this person didn't live next door. Arrested with drug possession with intent to distribute. Up until this event, our street had been very quiet. A state rep's/politician's family lives across the street. George Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[scifinoir2] [Fwd: RE:Could Adenine From Interstellar Dust Have Triggered Life On Earth? Elsewhere?]
Original Message Subject:RE:Could Adenine From Interstellar Dust Have Triggered Life On Earth? Elsewhere? Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2007 10:29:19 -0700 From: Chris de Morsella [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2007/10/071002113036.htm *Could Adenine From Interstellar Dust Have Triggered Life On Earth? Elsewhere?* **/Science Daily/** http://www.sciencedaily.com/**/ —/ Some of the elements necessary to support life on Earth are widely known - oxygen, carbon and water, to name a few. Just as important in the existence of life as any other component is the presence of adenine, an essential organic molecule. Without it, the basic building blocks of life would not come together. Scientists have been trying to find the origin of Earth's adenine and where else it might exist in the solar system. University of Missouri-Columbia researcher Rainer Glaser may have the answer.** Life exists on Earth because of a delicate combination of chemical ingredients. Using a theoretical model, Glaser is hypothesizing the existence of adenine in interstellar dust clouds. Those same clouds may have showered young Earth with adenine as it began cooling billions of years ago, and could potentially hold the key for initiating a similar process on another planet. The idea that certain molecules came from space is not outrageous, said Glaser, professor of chemistry in MU's College of Arts and Science. You can find large molecules in meteorites, including adenine. We know that adenine can be made elsewhere in the solar system, so why should one consider it impossible to make the building blocks somewhere in interstellar dust? Glaser believes astronomers should look for interstellar dust clouds that have highly-concentrated hydrogen cyanide (HCN), which can indicate the presence of adenine. Finding such pockets would narrow the spectrum of where life could exist within the Milky Way galaxy. There is a lot of sky with a few areas that have dust clouds. In those dust clouds, a few of them have HCN. A few of those have enough HCN to support the synthesis of the molecules of life. Now, we have to look for the HCN concentrations, and that's where you want to look for adenine, Glaser said. Chemistry in space and 'normal chemistry' can be very different because the concentrations and energy-exchange processes are different. These features make the study of chemistry in space very exciting and academically challenging; one really must think without prejudice. This theory describing the fusion of early life-forming chemicals is presented in the latest issue of the peer-reviewed journal Astrobiology and is co-authored by Brian Hodgen (Creighton University), Dean Farrelly (University of Manchester) and Elliot McKee (St. Louis University). The paper, Adenine Synthesis in Interstellar Space: Mechanisms of Prebiotic Pyrimidine-Ring Formation of Monocyclic HCN-Pentamers, describes the absence of a sizeable barrier that would prevent formation of the skeleton needed for adenine synthesis. The article is also featured in the Aug. 6 issue of Chemical Engineering News. /Note: This story has been adapted from material provided by University of Missouri-Columbia./ Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [scifinoir2] Halo Movie Declared Dead
That's what I was thinking. You would think the studios would get it together for the almighty dollar. I think the film maker is speaking on his own, not realizing that the studios are looking at the numbers. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In related news, Halo 3 made over 300 *million* dollars worlwide in two weeks, Transformers has netted over 300 million domestically. Just about everyone I know who plays the Halo games actually likes the Halo books.--Does anyone really believe no one will exploit this franchise's success by making a movie out of it?? -- Original message -- From: Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:tdlists%40multiculturaladvantage.com http://movies.ign.com/articles/825/825257p1.html http://movies.ign.com/articles/825/825257p1.html Halo Declared Dead Director says movie is not happening. by Stax Click here to find out more! October 5, 2007 - Filmmaker Neill Blomkamp had been slated to direct Fox-Universal's feature film version of the videogame sensation Halo, but the project infamously fell apart last year. Still, there had been rumblings that Halo could still fight its way onto the big screen. It seems, however, that even Blomkamp has given up hope for the Halo movie. The film is entirely dead. In the configuration it was in. Whatever happens with that movie, assuming that movie gets made, will be a totally different configuration, Blomkamp informed Creativity-Online.com. It's not so much me as the entire vessel sank. Basically, it was a combination of; there were two studios involved that weren't getting along in the process of making it, Universal and Fox. That kind of stuff happens, it's a fragile industry. So the film collapsed at the end of last year, and it's been dead, ever since then. I'll be curious to see what happens. Blomkamp made a trilogy of live-action Halo short films to help promote the release of the Halo 3 game, but they were not -- contrary to fans' hopes -- meant to rekindle interest in the movie. There was not even one percent of my mind in doing those short pieces to try and resurrect the film. And I think maybe that's because I'm closer to the film, I know how hard it fell, and I know that doing things like that was not how you're going to get it back on its feet, Blomkamp explained. But Blomkamp didn't shut the door on Halo entirely, saying, As I'm getting older one of the things I've realized most about this industry is never say never. That's the first thing. Right now, I can't see myself doing that film. But I'm not going to say that I'm not going to do it. So in the present moment, right now, I could take it or leave it. It doesn't matter to me anymore. There's too much interesting shit out there. The film has the capacity, if things line up correctly, to be, I think, really cool. But it ended up collapsing, and things happen for a reason. Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[scifinoir2] Customs find beetles stuffed with cocaine
Dutch customs officers found 100 dead beetles stuffed with cocaine while examining a parcel from Peru, Dutch authorities said Thursday. The little drug couriers' bodies had been slit open and filled with a total of 300 grams of cocaine, with an estimated street-value of 8,000 euros ($11,270). This is a very striking method of smuggling. We have never seen anything like this before, said government spokesman Kees Nanninga. Officers decided to open the parcel after scanning it and seeing what appeared to be insects inside. http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20071005/od_nm/dutch_odd_beetles_dc_2printer=1;_ylt=Ao6A1H1G2sQ7fv.uk7_W1RYZ.3QA Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[scifinoir2] WARNING(virus check bypassed): 'Jericho' Poised For November Return?
By MICHAEL HINMAN Source: TV Week Oct-03-2007 Anybody up for a little Jericho? Like, say, just in time for Thanksgiving? Fans might get their chance as the story about a post-apocalyptic Kansas town is getting set to possibly fill in for a show CBS decides to pull off the schedule. To get a November release, one of the network's new shows like Kid Nation, Cane or even Moonlight would have to tank, and it's not clear if that would actually happen, said TV Week's James Hibberd. The best thing going for 'Jericho' is it's done and ready to go, said Kelly Kahl, head of scheduling for CBS. But it's too early to tell what time period is going to be available. CBS planned Jericho as a mid-season replacement, typically meaning it was being readied to fill an open time slot if the network decided to pull the plug on another series early. While the reality show The Amazing Race and game show Power of 10 are ready to go, there isn't a lot of scripted television in the can, especially since Swingtown won't be broadcast until 2008. Many critics have predicted that Cane may be the first to go, but the show scored a 6.0 rating/10 share Tuesday night in overnight ratings. It was CBS' lowest-rated show of the night, but it holding its own. Moonlight had a 5.8/11 on Friday, retaining all of its audience from lead-in Ghost Whiperer and tying for the 9 p.m. ET hour. And Kid Nation has been holding steady in the third-place slot for its timeslot behind Dancing With the Stars on ABC and Deal or No Deal on NBC. The bad news is that if none of these shows get pulled from the schedule, fans likely won't see Jericho again until January. There's definitely concern [about viewer interest waning], which is why we hope to get on the air as soon as possible, executive producer Carol Barbee told Hibberd. It's hard to forget the fans' efforts to get Jericho back on the air, sending more than 20 tons of nuts to CBS in May demanding to return the show. Barbee also revealed, however, that herself and other producers were doing their part, getting SciFi Channel interested in picking up Jericho and pairing it up with its signature series Battlestar Galactica. What happens if the viewers are not there for the series, and the finale becomes a series finale rather than a season finale? Barbee said she has shot multiple endings that will either continue the series into a third season, or wrap it up completely. They sort of let us get away with the cliffhanger last time, Barbee said. We joked that [we] have to get another food product in the new finale. CBS probably combed through the script looking for anything that fans could send them. http://syfyportal.com/news424245.html Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[scifinoir2] Halo Movie Declared Dead
http://movies.ign.com/articles/825/825257p1.html Halo Declared Dead Director says movie is not happening. by Stax Click here to find out more! October 5, 2007 - Filmmaker Neill Blomkamp had been slated to direct Fox-Universal's feature film version of the videogame sensation Halo, but the project infamously fell apart last year. Still, there had been rumblings that Halo could still fight its way onto the big screen. It seems, however, that even Blomkamp has given up hope for the Halo movie. The film is entirely dead. In the configuration it was in. Whatever happens with that movie, assuming that movie gets made, will be a totally different configuration, Blomkamp informed Creativity-Online.com. It's not so much me as the entire vessel sank. Basically, it was a combination of; there were two studios involved that weren't getting along in the process of making it, Universal and Fox. That kind of stuff happens, it's a fragile industry. So the film collapsed at the end of last year, and it's been dead, ever since then. I'll be curious to see what happens. Blomkamp made a trilogy of live-action Halo short films to help promote the release of the Halo 3 game, but they were not -- contrary to fans' hopes -- meant to rekindle interest in the movie. There was not even one percent of my mind in doing those short pieces to try and resurrect the film. And I think maybe that's because I'm closer to the film, I know how hard it fell, and I know that doing things like that was not how you're going to get it back on its feet, Blomkamp explained. But Blomkamp didn't shut the door on Halo entirely, saying, As I'm getting older one of the things I've realized most about this industry is never say never. That's the first thing. Right now, I can't see myself doing that film. But I'm not going to say that I'm not going to do it. So in the present moment, right now, I could take it or leave it. It doesn't matter to me anymore. There's too much interesting shit out there. The film has the capacity, if things line up correctly, to be, I think, really cool. But it ended up collapsing, and things happen for a reason. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[scifinoir2] Fox Picks Up JJ Abrams' Fringe
Fox has made a series commitment for Fringe, a spooky show from J.J. Abrams (Lost) and writers Alex Kurtzman and Roberto Orci (Transformers), Variety reported. The Warner Brothers-Bad Robot production will start off with a two-hour pilot budgeted at more than $10 million. Abrams, Kurtzman and Orci—the brain trust behind Paramount's new Star Trek movie—wrote the project on spec and shopped it to the networks this week. The trio will executive-produce Fringe along with Bryan Burk (Lost). A search has begun for a pilot helmer as well as a series show runner. Fringe mixes elements of The X-Files and Paddy Chayefsky's Altered States with what Abrams called a slight Twilight Zone vibe, the trade paper reported. It will focus on brilliant but possibly crazy research scientist Walter Bishop, his estranged son and a female FBI agent who brings them together. Episodes will explore self-contained mysteries of the paranormal, as well as the relationships among the three leads. There'll also be an overriding mythology that will come into play from time to time, as well as a healthy dose of humor. http://www.scifi.com/scifiwire/index.php?category=0id=44534
Re: [scifinoir2] Re: My Take - Eastern Promises
I think Eastern Promises evoked less emotion than usual. I heard an appreciation for the work, but not enjoyment of it. Tracey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: well, I've never been accused of being clinical before! :) the point to take is that it's Cronenberg's style that some love, some hate. The film's glum in a way. Not boring, but very somber. Fans of the director will like it, others may feel a bit down when they've left the theatre -- Original message -- From: ravenadal [EMAIL PROTECTED] This thorough and clinical review leaves me kinda cold. It doesn't make me want to see Eastern Promises. I will see Eastern Promises, however, because I adored Cronenberg's last feature, The History of Violence, especially the relevatory performance by Viggo Mortensen, which, by everything else I have read, is exceeded by his protean performance in Promises. ~rave! --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My Quick Take: Ever seen a Cronenberg film? Then you know one thing to expect: some pretty intense violence, some graphic (and slightly disturbing) coupling, and a picture where good and evil blur into each other. Eastern Promises continues the director's penchant for looking at the extremes to which humans are driven, and seems to ask the question, is violence an inescapable part of all human's natures? It's pretty solemn, almost downbeat, but nonetheless a fascinating look at some aspects of the Russian mafia, and as always, a disturbingly fascinating look at how far people will go. If you liked A History of Violence, ExistenZ, or Dead Ringers, you'll--well, not enjoy, but get into--Eastern Promises. If you find his work off-putting, too violent, or too gross, then you might find this picture just too much. My Full Take: David Cronenberg is often criticized for the graphic nature of his films. That might be his history of looking unflinchingly at violent or disturbing material. Recalling Jeff Goldblum's body parts falling off in The Fly, or the brutal fight scenes and explicit sex scenes in A History of Violence, it's understandable why some might feel that way. But dig deeper beneath the surface of his films, and you'll see a director who simply explores the depth of the human condition, and isn't shy from being realistic in doing so. He's not a man who uses violence gratuitously, but rather shows the reality of what humans do to each other in all its disturbing nature. In that way, Cronenberg's like a war photographer: using graphic and disturbing pictures to tell a truth—a truth that some might not want to face, but truth nonetheless. Eastern Promises is another of his moving-pictures of the extremes to which humans can subject themselves and others. The film starts with a teenaged girl collapsing in a pharmacy in a pool of blood. She's taken to a hospital where she later dies in childbirth. Anna Khitrova (Naomi Watts), the midwife who works on the case, learns that the girl was a fourteen-year-old named Tatiana, and is drawn into her story. How did she get pregnant at such a young age? Where was her family? Tatiana leaves behind a diary written in Russian, that Anna gives to her uncle to translate. Almost immediately he warns Anna to drop the whole affair. The small bit he's read reveals Tatiana was brought to London by the local Russian mafia, who made her promises of a new life, only to force her into a life of sexual slavery. Despite her uncle's warning, Anna visits the mafia boss, Semyon, and asks him about Tatiana. Semyon tries to get Anna to give him the diary, to forget about Tatiana, but despite veiled threats she refuses, looking for justice for Tatiana and her motherless child, delving deeper into a dangerous world. Included in that world is Nikolai Luzhin (Viggo Mortensen) a driver for the mafia. Luzhin is a good soldier; the kind who keeps his mouth shut and does what he's told. The kind of man who can cut the fingers off a dead body, then later have a drink with the killer, or have sex with a barely legal prostitute to prove he's a real man. He's also the kind of man who doesn't necessarily take pleasure in some of the things he has to do. They're just business, necessary evils of his world. Luzhin tries to give Anna a friendly warning: forget the girl and be safe, and leave behind a world where she doesn't belong. But again, she ignores the warnings. Anna's persistence at first appears to be an outgrowth of her own problems: a recent breakup and miscarriage that have her sad and lost. Surely only forlorn despair could make anyone act so recklessly, it seems. But in time we come to realize that Anna really is a decent person trying to correct a wrong. As she comes to understand how Tatiana was cruelly used she wants to make sure that someone pays—or at least acknowledges the loss of this young life. She was used and
[scifinoir2] Eureka Finale anyone?
Anyone catch the Eureka finale? What did you think? Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [scifinoir2] Re: My Take - Eastern Promises
A history of violence just blew me away. But I'm with Rave, I was not inspired to see it be your review. I'm a little disappointed. I was hoping to see more of what I got from History of Violence. However, from your review, it sounds as if he is continuing to move in that same direction. Perhaps the difference is the source material. Perhaps part of the magic of A History of Violence is the graphic novel from which it was inspired ravenadal wrote: This thorough and clinical review leaves me kinda cold. It doesn't make me want to see Eastern Promises. I will see Eastern Promises, however, because I adored Cronenberg's last feature, The History of Violence, especially the relevatory performance by Viggo Mortensen, which, by everything else I have read, is exceeded by his protean performance in Promises. ~rave! --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com mailto:scifinoir2%40yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My Quick Take: Ever seen a Cronenberg film? Then you know one thing to expect: some pretty intense violence, some graphic (and slightly disturbing) coupling, and a picture where good and evil blur into each other. Eastern Promises continues the director's penchant for looking at the extremes to which humans are driven, and seems to ask the question, is violence an inescapable part of all human's natures? It's pretty solemn, almost downbeat, but nonetheless a fascinating look at some aspects of the Russian mafia, and as always, a disturbingly fascinating look at how far people will go. If you liked A History of Violence, ExistenZ, or Dead Ringers, you'll--well, not enjoy, but get into--Eastern Promises. If you find his work off-putting, too violent, or too gross, then you might find this picture just too much. My Full Take: David Cronenberg is often criticized for the graphic nature of his films. That might be his history of looking unflinchingly at violent or disturbing material. Recalling Jeff Goldblum's body parts falling off in The Fly, or the brutal fight scenes and explicit sex scenes in A History of Violence, it's understandable why some might feel that way. But dig deeper beneath the surface of his films, and you'll see a director who simply explores the depth of the human condition, and isn't shy from being realistic in doing so. He's not a man who uses violence gratuitously, but rather shows the reality of what humans do to each other in all its disturbing nature. In that way, Cronenberg's like a war photographer: using graphic and disturbing pictures to tell a truth—a truth that some might not want to face, but truth nonetheless. Eastern Promises is another of his moving-pictures of the extremes to which humans can subject themselves and others. The film starts with a teenaged girl collapsing in a pharmacy in a pool of blood. She's taken to a hospital where she later dies in childbirth. Anna Khitrova (Naomi Watts), the midwife who works on the case, learns that the girl was a fourteen-year-old named Tatiana, and is drawn into her story. How did she get pregnant at such a young age? Where was her family? Tatiana leaves behind a diary written in Russian, that Anna gives to her uncle to translate. Almost immediately he warns Anna to drop the whole affair. The small bit he's read reveals Tatiana was brought to London by the local Russian mafia, who made her promises of a new life, only to force her into a life of sexual slavery. Despite her uncle's warning, Anna visits the mafia boss, Semyon, and asks him about Tatiana. Semyon tries to get Anna to give him the diary, to forget about Tatiana, but despite veiled threats she refuses, looking for justice for Tatiana and her motherless child, delving deeper into a dangerous world. Included in that world is Nikolai Luzhin (Viggo Mortensen) a driver for the mafia. Luzhin is a good soldier; the kind who keeps his mouth shut and does what he's told. The kind of man who can cut the fingers off a dead body, then later have a drink with the killer, or have sex with a barely legal prostitute to prove he's a real man. He's also the kind of man who doesn't necessarily take pleasure in some of the things he has to do. They're just business, necessary evils of his world. Luzhin tries to give Anna a friendly warning: forget the girl and be safe, and leave behind a world where she doesn't belong. But again, she ignores the warnings. Anna's persistence at first appears to be an outgrowth of her own problems: a recent breakup and miscarriage that have her sad and lost. Surely only forlorn despair could make anyone act so recklessly, it seems. But in time we come to realize that Anna really is a decent person trying to correct a wrong. As she comes to understand how Tatiana was cruelly used she wants to make sure that someone pays—or at least acknowledges the loss of this young life. She was used and thrown away like garbage, Anna says. Someone should care about who she
Re: [scifinoir2] Eureka Finale anyone?
My thoughts exactly. I hope they return to their formal quality of storytelling in the fall. This year of experimentation with guest stars and stories was very uneven Martin wrote: Felt sort of uneven to me, as though they were doing a final walk-through of the ep. I did *not* like the ending, of course. Next season, it'll be right back to status quo, Stark running GD, Allison back to her DoD liason role. Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] aladvantage. com mailto:tdlists%40multiculturaladvantage.com wrote: Anyone catch the Eureka finale? What did you think? Yahoo! Groups Links There is no reason Good can't triumph over Evil, if only angels will get organized along the lines of the Mafia. -Kurt Vonnegut, A Man Without A Country - - --- Looking for a deal? Find great prices on flights and hotels with Yahoo! FareChase. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[scifinoir2] Any thoughts on Wii
i'm not a big video game person, but those wii commercials are wearing me down. Any thoughts? Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scifinoir2/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
