Re: [SMW-devel] Adding Site Settings support to SMW?
Hi, Perhaps we should move out the existing ones now we are switching to 2.0 anyway? I'd like to see that happen because `onPageSchemasRegistration` and `addToAdminLinks` are the two remaining hooks which block the removal of `SemanticMediaWiki.hooks.php` [0]. [0] https://github.com/SemanticMediaWiki/SemanticMediaWiki/pull/424 Cheers On 7/19/14, Jeroen De Dauw jeroended...@gmail.com wrote: Hey, Perhaps we should move out the existing ones now we are switching to 2.0 anyway? The new mini extensions can be put in the suggests section. Or perhaps not, as for those to fully function, you'd first need package definitions of their dependencies as well. Thoughts? Cheers -- Jeroen De Dauw - http://www.bn2vs.com Software craftsmanship advocate Evil software architect at Wikimedia Germany ~=[,,_,,]:3 -- Want fast and easy access to all the code in your enterprise? Index and search up to 200,000 lines of code with a free copy of Black Duck Code Sight - the same software that powers the world's largest code search on Ohloh, the Black Duck Open Hub! Try it now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bds ___ Semediawiki-devel mailing list Semediawiki-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/semediawiki-devel
Re: [SMW-devel] Adding Site Settings support to SMW?
Hey, Unfortunately, there isn't yet a public example of an extension that hooks into Site Settings Just from the description you provided, it is still not clear enough for me to say much about it. The general concern with putting it into SMW is that this forces the people working on SMW to hold it into account. This means making sure it does not get broken when changes are made on the master branch. That is hard to do since it requires the Site Settings extension. If the code is really trivial, then perhaps this is fine. Cheers -- Jeroen De Dauw - http://www.bn2vs.com Software craftsmanship advocate Evil software architect at Wikimedia Germany ~=[,,_,,]:3 -- Want fast and easy access to all the code in your enterprise? Index and search up to 200,000 lines of code with a free copy of Black Duck Code Sight - the same software that powers the world's largest code search on Ohloh, the Black Duck Open Hub! Try it now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bds___ Semediawiki-devel mailing list Semediawiki-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/semediawiki-devel
Re: [SMW-devel] Adding Site Settings support to SMW?
Hi, I can't say anything about the code (as I haven't seen it yet) but three things I'd like to comment: newest of these three, and SMW doesn't connect to it yet, but I would like to add code in to SMW to do that, most likely via another class, that would be called SMWSiteSettings. I'm not a huge fan of such interdependencies (and AdminLinks is no exception). I'd ask about it here before trying to send in a patch. I'm not planning on adding any testing code for this new code, just like there isn't for the Having no tests (no matter what language or circumstances) will give me a hard time to +2 (you don't need the SiteSettings to run tests, just mock the interface). Anyway I much like all three extensions, and welcome tight integration among them all, despite dev headaches that may occur. Tight coupling is not a solution it is a cause. [0, 1, 2, 3]. [0] http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/magazine/cc947917.aspx [1] http://programmers.stackexchange.com/questions/212515/why-is-tight-coupling-between-functions-and-data-bad [2] http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/java/library/j-cq05227/index.html?ca=dnw-823 [3] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loose_coupling PS: Having said that, maybe it is not all that bad why not post to code as gist ( https://gist.github.com/). Cheers On 7/19/14, Yaron Koren ya...@wikiworks.com wrote: Hi, Well, it depends on what you mean by broken. From my perspective, as long as the code doesn't crash SMW's regular functionality, it's good enough. If there's a problem with the Site Settings functionality in SMW - even a severe problem - you could just redirect it as a Site Settings issue, which is really what it is. The same thing holds true for Page Schemas, by the way - the code in SMW that hooks into it is somewhat complex, but as far as I know it hasn't required any special maintenance effort on the part of SMW devs. -Yaron On Jul 18, 2014 9:30 AM, Jeroen De Dauw jeroended...@gmail.com wrote: Hey, Unfortunately, there isn't yet a public example of an extension that hooks into Site Settings Just from the description you provided, it is still not clear enough for me to say much about it. The general concern with putting it into SMW is that this forces the people working on SMW to hold it into account. This means making sure it does not get broken when changes are made on the master branch. That is hard to do since it requires the Site Settings extension. If the code is really trivial, then perhaps this is fine. Cheers -- Jeroen De Dauw - http://www.bn2vs.com Software craftsmanship advocate Evil software architect at Wikimedia Germany ~=[,,_,,]:3 -- Want fast and easy access to all the code in your enterprise? Index and search up to 200,000 lines of code with a free copy of Black Duck Code Sight - the same software that powers the world's largest code search on Ohloh, the Black Duck Open Hub! Try it now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bds ___ Semediawiki-devel mailing list Semediawiki-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/semediawiki-devel
Re: [SMW-devel] Adding Site Settings support to SMW?
Hey, The same thing holds true for Page Schemas, by the way - the code in SMW that hooks into it is somewhat complex, but as far as I know it hasn't required any special maintenance effort on the part of SMW devs. As far as I'm concerned, we (SMW devs) are responsible to not break code in our repo, and to make sure the code we release is working properly. You can create an extension to SMW to avoid the problem. And if you do that, you can specify a compat range, and are not force to keep it working against master the whole time. Cheers -- Jeroen De Dauw - http://www.bn2vs.com Software craftsmanship advocate Evil software architect at Wikimedia Germany ~=[,,_,,]:3 -- Want fast and easy access to all the code in your enterprise? Index and search up to 200,000 lines of code with a free copy of Black Duck Code Sight - the same software that powers the world's largest code search on Ohloh, the Black Duck Open Hub! Try it now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bds___ Semediawiki-devel mailing list Semediawiki-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/semediawiki-devel
Re: [SMW-devel] Adding Site Settings support to SMW?
Hi James, I'm not a huge fan of such interdependencies (and AdminLinks is no exception). This seems like the most overriding of your objections. Could you elaborate on it? -- Want fast and easy access to all the code in your enterprise? Index and search up to 200,000 lines of code with a free copy of Black Duck Code Sight - the same software that powers the world's largest code search on Ohloh, the Black Duck Open Hub! Try it now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bds___ Semediawiki-devel mailing list Semediawiki-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/semediawiki-devel
Re: [SMW-devel] Adding Site Settings support to SMW?
Hey, Perhaps we should move out the existing ones now we are switching to 2.0 anyway? The new mini extensions can be put in the suggests section. Or perhaps not, as for those to fully function, you'd first need package definitions of their dependencies as well. Thoughts? Cheers -- Jeroen De Dauw - http://www.bn2vs.com Software craftsmanship advocate Evil software architect at Wikimedia Germany ~=[,,_,,]:3 -- Want fast and easy access to all the code in your enterprise? Index and search up to 200,000 lines of code with a free copy of Black Duck Code Sight - the same software that powers the world's largest code search on Ohloh, the Black Duck Open Hub! Try it now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bds___ Semediawiki-devel mailing list Semediawiki-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/semediawiki-devel
Re: [SMW-devel] Adding Site Settings support to SMW?
Hi Yaron,
Definitely SiteSettings is useful for a wikifarm, so is the interwiki
table. To get named-value simplicity (for admins), adding a LONGTEXT
column (or LONG VARCHAR) to the interwiki table and then extracting
named values via canned mysql achieves similar goals
mysql describe interwiki;
+---+---+--+-+-+---+
| Field | Type | Null | Key | Default | Extra |
+---+---+--+-+-+---+
| iw_prefix | varbinary(32) | NO | PRI | NULL| |
| iw_url| blob | NO | | NULL| |
| iw_api| blob | NO | | NULL| |
| iw_wikiid | varbinary(64) | NO | | NULL| |
| iw_local | tinyint(1)| NO | | NULL| |
| iw_trans | tinyint(4)| NO | | 0 | |
+---+---+--+-+-+---+
SELECT
SUBSTR('iw_settings', LOCATE('setting', 'iw_settings') +
LENGTH('setting'),
LOCATE('/setting', 'iw_settings') - LOCATE('setting', 'iw_settings')
+ LENGTH('setting')
) as 'setting'
FROM interwiki WHERE 'iw_url'='localhost';
Anyway I much like all three extensions, and welcome tight integration
among them all, despite dev headaches that may occur.
Thanks for your terrific contributions/john
On 7/16/2014 10:01 AM, Yaron Koren wrote:
Hi John,
The Page Schemas class is linked in my original email; the Admin Links
function is in SemanticMediaWiki.hooks.php.
I would rather not get into the technical details of any of those
extensions in this thread, except as it relates to SMW. However - it's
true that a key-value approach for Site Settings would be more
flexible than a hardcoded table, but Site Settings is also meant to be
usable for a wiki farm, and I figured that a standard DB table would
be easier for admins to deal with than a big key-value table.
-Yaron
On Wed, Jul 16, 2014 at 12:27 PM, John McClure
jmccl...@hypergrove.com mailto:jmccl...@hypergrove.com wrote:
On 7/15/2014 7:25 PM, Yaron Koren wrote:
Semantic MediaWiki already hooks into the first two: Admin Links
via a function, and Page Schemas with a class.
Hi Yaron - What function/class are those. Also, i happened to
review PS extension's DTD - has it changed?
?xml version=1.0encoding=utf-8?
!DOCTYPE PageSchema [
!ELEMENT PageSchema (Template*)
!ELEMENT PageSchema (semanticforms_Form*)
!ATTLIST PageSchema name CDATA #REQUIRED
!ELEMENT Template (Field*)
!ATTLIST Template name CDATA #REQUIRED
!ATTLIST semanticforms_Form name CDATA #REQUIRED
!ATTLIST Field name CDATA #REQUIRED
]
I looked at SiteSettings schema and wondering about a different idea
-- how about duplicating mediawiki's interwiki table but with a
blob of named-value settings.
In this way other setup settings can be added with great ease.
And it can be used as the anchor for definition of an smw-wiki farm.
It could come in handy during cross-site joins in some future.
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Re: [SMW-devel] Adding Site Settings support to SMW?
Hi Yury, On Wed, Jul 16, 2014 at 1:32 AM, Yury Katkov katkov.ju...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Yaron! I think that for SiteSettings this patch could make sense although I'm strongly against such interdependencies between extensions (after trying to contribute to PageSchemas) Could you expand on that? Is AdminLinks mentioned in SMW? That's really strange and surprising - I thought it's just a header button and the predefined wikipage for the content (well, maybe it can also check, which extensions are installed). Every extension-related link in Special:AdminLinks is added by that extension. -Yaron -- WikiWorks · MediaWiki Consulting · http://wikiworks.com -- Want fast and easy access to all the code in your enterprise? Index and search up to 200,000 lines of code with a free copy of Black Duck Code Sight - the same software that powers the world's largest code search on Ohloh, the Black Duck Open Hub! Try it now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bds___ Semediawiki-devel mailing list Semediawiki-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/semediawiki-devel
Re: [SMW-devel] Adding Site Settings support to SMW?
Hi! On Wed, Jul 16, 2014 at 3:37 PM, Yaron Koren ya...@wikiworks.com wrote: Hi Yury, On Wed, Jul 16, 2014 at 1:32 AM, Yury Katkov katkov.ju...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Yaron! I think that for SiteSettings this patch could make sense although I'm strongly against such interdependencies between extensions (after trying to contribute to PageSchemas) Could you expand on that? It's just a lot harder to contribute the code when there is such a dependency. In order to contribute the code I have to make changes not in one extension but in two or three. This can create inconsistency, like the one we can see now in Page Schemas: there are some features that are presented in PS but the code in SF still doesn't have support for them, because the changes haven't been accepted. I understand that you've had in mind the following scenario: there is Page Schemas and everyone can register their own extension in it. It didn't work well in the Page Schemas case but it can in principle work in case of Site Settings since it's not SMW-specific. Is AdminLinks mentioned in SMW? That's really strange and surprising - I thought it's just a header button and the predefined wikipage for the content (well, maybe it can also check, which extensions are installed). Every extension-related link in Special:AdminLinks is added by that extension. -Yaron -- WikiWorks · MediaWiki Consulting · http://wikiworks.com -- Want fast and easy access to all the code in your enterprise? Index and search up to 200,000 lines of code with a free copy of Black Duck Code Sight - the same software that powers the world's largest code search on Ohloh, the Black Duck Open Hub! Try it now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bds___ Semediawiki-devel mailing list Semediawiki-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/semediawiki-devel
Re: [SMW-devel] Adding Site Settings support to SMW?
On 7/15/2014 7:25 PM, Yaron Koren wrote:
Semantic MediaWiki already hooks into the first two: Admin Links via a
function, and Page Schemas with a class.
Hi Yaron - What function/class are those. Also, i happened to review PS
extension's DTD - has it changed?
?xml javascript:searchRef('xml') version javascript:searchRef('version')=1.0encoding
javascript:searchRef('encoding')=utf javascript:searchRef('utf')-8?
!DOCTYPE javascript:searchRef('DOCTYPE') PageSchema
javascript:searchRef('PageSchema') [
!ELEMENT javascript:searchRef('ELEMENT') PageSchema javascript:searchRef('PageSchema')
(Template javascript:searchRef('Template')*)
!ELEMENT javascript:searchRef('ELEMENT') PageSchema javascript:searchRef('PageSchema')
(semanticforms_Form javascript:searchRef('semanticforms_Form')*)
!ATTLIST javascript:searchRef('ATTLIST') PageSchema javascript:searchRef('PageSchema') name
javascript:searchRef('name') CDATA javascript:searchRef('CDATA') #REQUIRED
javascript:searchRef('REQUIRED')
!ELEMENT javascript:searchRef('ELEMENT') Template javascript:searchRef('Template')
(Field javascript:searchRef('Field')*)
!ATTLIST javascript:searchRef('ATTLIST') Template javascript:searchRef('Template') name
javascript:searchRef('name') CDATA javascript:searchRef('CDATA') #REQUIRED
javascript:searchRef('REQUIRED')
!ATTLIST javascript:searchRef('ATTLIST') semanticforms_Form javascript:searchRef('semanticforms_Form') name
javascript:searchRef('name') CDATA javascript:searchRef('CDATA') #REQUIRED
javascript:searchRef('REQUIRED')
!ATTLIST javascript:searchRef('ATTLIST') Field javascript:searchRef('Field') name
javascript:searchRef('name') CDATA javascript:searchRef('CDATA') #REQUIRED
javascript:searchRef('REQUIRED')
]
I looked at SiteSettings schema and wondering about a different idea
-- how about duplicating mediawiki's interwiki table but with a blob of
named-value settings.
In this way other setup settings can be added with great ease.
And it can be used as the anchor for definition of an smw-wiki farm.
It could come in handy during cross-site joins in some future.
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Re: [SMW-devel] Adding Site Settings support to SMW?
Hi Yury, You're right that Page Schemas, unlike the other two, is not really a generic framework, and is pretty tightly integrated in with the standard SMW approach to data structures, which has caused some problems. Personally, I think Page Schemas works well now - I use it on a regular basis - but that of course is a matter of opinion. Like with any software, there's always room for improvement. -Yaron On Wed, Jul 16, 2014 at 10:46 AM, Yury Katkov katkov.ju...@gmail.com wrote: Hi! On Wed, Jul 16, 2014 at 3:37 PM, Yaron Koren ya...@wikiworks.com wrote: Hi Yury, On Wed, Jul 16, 2014 at 1:32 AM, Yury Katkov katkov.ju...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Yaron! I think that for SiteSettings this patch could make sense although I'm strongly against such interdependencies between extensions (after trying to contribute to PageSchemas) Could you expand on that? It's just a lot harder to contribute the code when there is such a dependency. In order to contribute the code I have to make changes not in one extension but in two or three. This can create inconsistency, like the one we can see now in Page Schemas: there are some features that are presented in PS but the code in SF still doesn't have support for them, because the changes haven't been accepted. I understand that you've had in mind the following scenario: there is Page Schemas and everyone can register their own extension in it. It didn't work well in the Page Schemas case but it can in principle work in case of Site Settings since it's not SMW-specific. Is AdminLinks mentioned in SMW? That's really strange and surprising - I thought it's just a header button and the predefined wikipage for the content (well, maybe it can also check, which extensions are installed). Every extension-related link in Special:AdminLinks is added by that extension. -Yaron -- WikiWorks · MediaWiki Consulting · http://wikiworks.com -- WikiWorks · MediaWiki Consulting · http://wikiworks.com -- Want fast and easy access to all the code in your enterprise? Index and search up to 200,000 lines of code with a free copy of Black Duck Code Sight - the same software that powers the world's largest code search on Ohloh, the Black Duck Open Hub! Try it now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bds___ Semediawiki-devel mailing list Semediawiki-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/semediawiki-devel
Re: [SMW-devel] Adding Site Settings support to SMW?
Hi John, The Page Schemas class is linked in my original email; the Admin Links function is in SemanticMediaWiki.hooks.php. I would rather not get into the technical details of any of those extensions in this thread, except as it relates to SMW. However - it's true that a key-value approach for Site Settings would be more flexible than a hardcoded table, but Site Settings is also meant to be usable for a wiki farm, and I figured that a standard DB table would be easier for admins to deal with than a big key-value table. -Yaron On Wed, Jul 16, 2014 at 12:27 PM, John McClure jmccl...@hypergrove.com wrote: On 7/15/2014 7:25 PM, Yaron Koren wrote: Semantic MediaWiki already hooks into the first two: Admin Links via a function, and Page Schemas with a class. Hi Yaron - What function/class are those. Also, i happened to review PS extension's DTD - has it changed? ?xml version=1.0 encoding=utf-8? !DOCTYPE PageSchema [ !ELEMENT PageSchema (Template*) !ELEMENT PageSchema (semanticforms_Form*) !ATTLIST PageSchema name CDATA #REQUIRED !ELEMENT Template (Field*) !ATTLIST Template name CDATA #REQUIRED !ATTLIST semanticforms_Form name CDATA #REQUIRED !ATTLIST Field name CDATA #REQUIRED ] I looked at SiteSettings schema and wondering about a different idea -- how about duplicating mediawiki's interwiki table but with a blob of named-value settings. In this way other setup settings can be added with great ease. And it can be used as the anchor for definition of an smw-wiki farm. It could come in handy during cross-site joins in some future. -- Want fast and easy access to all the code in your enterprise? Index and search up to 200,000 lines of code with a free copy of Black Duck Code Sight - the same software that powers the world's largest code search on Ohloh, the Black Duck Open Hub! Try it now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bds ___ Semediawiki-devel mailing list Semediawiki-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/semediawiki-devel -- WikiWorks · MediaWiki Consulting · http://wikiworks.com -- Want fast and easy access to all the code in your enterprise? Index and search up to 200,000 lines of code with a free copy of Black Duck Code Sight - the same software that powers the world's largest code search on Ohloh, the Black Duck Open Hub! Try it now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bds___ Semediawiki-devel mailing list Semediawiki-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/semediawiki-devel
Re: [SMW-devel] Adding Site Settings support to SMW?
Hey, Can you give me some idea of what this code you'd put in SMW would look like? Is there already an example somewhere? Cheers -- Jeroen De Dauw - http://www.bn2vs.com Software craftsmanship advocate Evil software architect at Wikimedia Germany ~=[,,_,,]:3 -- Want fast and easy access to all the code in your enterprise? Index and search up to 200,000 lines of code with a free copy of Black Duck Code Sight - the same software that powers the world's largest code search on Ohloh, the Black Duck Open Hub! Try it now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bds___ Semediawiki-devel mailing list Semediawiki-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/semediawiki-devel
Re: [SMW-devel] Adding Site Settings support to SMW?
Hi Jeroen, Unfortunately, there isn't yet a public example of an extension that hooks into Site Settings - if this potential code gets into SMW, SMW could become the first. But the basic idea is that the class would contain various static methods, each of which was called by a different Site Settings hook, that mainly did the following: added HTML for new fields to the Special:SiteSettings form, saved information from those fields to the database, and loaded information from the database into SMW's global variables. The latter two would be done by calling the Site Settings API, for what it's worth - there would be no direct database calls. By the way, the only SMW global variable that I'm currently planning to handle in this code is $smwgShowFactbox - but there's always the potential for adding additional settings. -Yaron On Wed, Jul 16, 2014 at 7:50 PM, Jeroen De Dauw jeroended...@gmail.com wrote: Hey, Can you give me some idea of what this code you'd put in SMW would look like? Is there already an example somewhere? Cheers -- Jeroen De Dauw - http://www.bn2vs.com Software craftsmanship advocate Evil software architect at Wikimedia Germany ~=[,,_,,]:3 -- WikiWorks · MediaWiki Consulting · http://wikiworks.com -- Want fast and easy access to all the code in your enterprise? Index and search up to 200,000 lines of code with a free copy of Black Duck Code Sight - the same software that powers the world's largest code search on Ohloh, the Black Duck Open Hub! Try it now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bds___ Semediawiki-devel mailing list Semediawiki-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/semediawiki-devel
[SMW-devel] Adding Site Settings support to SMW?
Hi, There are three extensions of mine that take a similar approach, where they provide a generic framework and other extensions add their own specific functionality in via hooks: Admin Links, Page Schemas and Site Settings. Semantic MediaWiki already hooks into the first two: Admin Links via a function, and Page Schemas with a class. [1] Site Settings [2] is the newest of these three, and SMW doesn't connect to it yet, but I would like to add code in to SMW to do that, most likely via another class, that would be called SMWSiteSettings. The code that interfaces with Page Schemas caused some controversy before on this mailing list (though the Admin Links code never did), so I thought I'd ask about it here before trying to send in a patch. I'm not planning on adding any testing code for this new code, just like there isn't for the Admin Links and Page Schemas code in SMW; but my philosophy, as I explained before when we talked about Page Schemas, is that, even in the worst case where the code crashes completely, it will not affect any of the other SMW functionality, so it can safely be ignored by SMW developers. I certainly hope to be able to add such a patch in, but I look forward to any questions or comments. [1] https://github.com/SemanticMediaWiki/SemanticMediaWiki/blob/master/includes/SMW_PageSchemas.php [2] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Site_Settings -Yaron -- WikiWorks · MediaWiki Consulting · http://wikiworks.com -- Want fast and easy access to all the code in your enterprise? Index and search up to 200,000 lines of code with a free copy of Black Duck Code Sight - the same software that powers the world's largest code search on Ohloh, the Black Duck Open Hub! Try it now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bds___ Semediawiki-devel mailing list Semediawiki-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/semediawiki-devel
Re: [SMW-devel] Adding Site Settings support to SMW?
Hi Yaron! I think that for SiteSettings this patch could make sense although I'm strongly against such interdependencies between extensions (after trying to contribute to PageSchemas) Is AdminLinks mentioned in SMW? That's really strange and surprising - I thought it's just a header button and the predefined wikipage for the content (well, maybe it can also check, which extensions are installed). - Yury Katkov On Wed, Jul 16, 2014 at 4:25 AM, Yaron Koren ya...@wikiworks.com wrote: Hi, There are three extensions of mine that take a similar approach, where they provide a generic framework and other extensions add their own specific functionality in via hooks: Admin Links, Page Schemas and Site Settings. Semantic MediaWiki already hooks into the first two: Admin Links via a function, and Page Schemas with a class. [1] Site Settings [2] is the newest of these three, and SMW doesn't connect to it yet, but I would like to add code in to SMW to do that, most likely via another class, that would be called SMWSiteSettings. The code that interfaces with Page Schemas caused some controversy before on this mailing list (though the Admin Links code never did), so I thought I'd ask about it here before trying to send in a patch. I'm not planning on adding any testing code for this new code, just like there isn't for the Admin Links and Page Schemas code in SMW; but my philosophy, as I explained before when we talked about Page Schemas, is that, even in the worst case where the code crashes completely, it will not affect any of the other SMW functionality, so it can safely be ignored by SMW developers. I certainly hope to be able to add such a patch in, but I look forward to any questions or comments. [1] https://github.com/SemanticMediaWiki/SemanticMediaWiki/blob/master/includes/SMW_PageSchemas.php [2] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Site_Settings -Yaron -- WikiWorks · MediaWiki Consulting · http://wikiworks.com -- Want fast and easy access to all the code in your enterprise? Index and search up to 200,000 lines of code with a free copy of Black Duck Code Sight - the same software that powers the world's largest code search on Ohloh, the Black Duck Open Hub! Try it now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bds ___ Semediawiki-devel mailing list Semediawiki-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/semediawiki-devel -- Want fast and easy access to all the code in your enterprise? Index and search up to 200,000 lines of code with a free copy of Black Duck Code Sight - the same software that powers the world's largest code search on Ohloh, the Black Duck Open Hub! Try it now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bds___ Semediawiki-devel mailing list Semediawiki-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/semediawiki-devel
