Re: CS> particle meter
Hee,Hee, I was trolling for ya Bob! Hook, line, sinker Giggle, Too easy sniff. Chuck On Sat, 29 May 1999 21:35:06 -0500, bober...@postoffice.swbell.net wrote: >Chuck, > >Dream on Chuck. A TDS1 meter never has and never will read PPM of CS. > >CS is NOT a dissolved solid. > >Robert > >Charles King wrote: > >> Yay! >> The TDS1 arrived just 4 days after ordering. >> Now I can read ppm of the CS I make! >> Chuck >> Don't take life seriously--it isn't permanent -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS> particle meter
Chuck, Dream on Chuck. A TDS1 meter never has and never will read PPM of CS. CS is NOT a dissolved solid. Robert Charles King wrote: > Yay! > The TDS1 arrived just 4 days after ordering. > Now I can read ppm of the CS I make! > Chuck > > On Tue, 25 May 1999 17:19:40 GMT, wrote: > > >>> The meter is a TDS 1 and can be obtained from Hanna Instruments in > >>> Woonsocket, RI. I had their 800 number but can't seem to locate right > >>now. > >>> Can call 1-800-555-1212 for 800 information is US. However, Hanna is a > >>> British company and their headquarters in in GB somewhere. Most of the > >>> manufacturing is in Europe. Try the web site below for closest location > >>to > >>> you. > >>> > >>> In spite of what others may say, I have found it to be a great little > >>device > >>> and easy to use. My readings correspond almost exactly from what I would > >>> expect based on run times, etc. and it is generally quite repeatable and > >>> consistent. > >>> > > Know yourself. If you need help, call the FBI. > > -- > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: > silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > > List maintainer: Mike Devour -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS> OL' Snappy
On Sat, 29 May 1999 18:17:14 +0500, "RONjb" wrote: >Next I set it up as my LVDC CS maker but used the HVAC instead. I put a >spark-plug in series with the 'fence' side of the circuit and set the gap >so there was a steady arc. This turned out to be a .015 gap. After 20 min >I checked for tyndall, none. I ran the trail as above and all swimmers >were dead within a minute. AHA!! Great! I'll bet this is the procedure (or at least a feasible one) for arcing underwater colloidal gold. Chuck The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Ever-Living Liver
On 28 May 99 07:35:58 MDT, alon...@usa.net wrote: >Chuck wrote: > > I knew a guy that took Carter's Little Liver Pills for over 20 years. > When he died, they had to beat his liver to death with a stick > >Too bad - would have made a good transplant. > >Alonzo Geez, Alonzo It was a joke! You had to go and moralize it! I hate when that happens!!! Chuck If toast always lands butter-side down, and cats always land on their feet, what happen if you strap toast on the back of a cat and drop it? Steve Wright -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS> particle meter
Yay! The TDS1 arrived just 4 days after ordering. Now I can read ppm of the CS I make! Chuck On Tue, 25 May 1999 17:19:40 GMT, wrote: >>> The meter is a TDS 1 and can be obtained from Hanna Instruments in >>> Woonsocket, RI. I had their 800 number but can't seem to locate right >>now. >>> Can call 1-800-555-1212 for 800 information is US. However, Hanna is a >>> British company and their headquarters in in GB somewhere. Most of the >>> manufacturing is in Europe. Try the web site below for closest location >>to >>> you. >>> >>> In spite of what others may say, I have found it to be a great little >>device >>> and easy to use. My readings correspond almost exactly from what I would >>> expect based on run times, etc. and it is generally quite repeatable and >>> consistent. >>> Know yourself. If you need help, call the FBI. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS> OL' Snappy
> Hi list; An electric fence charger was at the auction... > I was careful setting this thing up but still got nailed 3 > times...RONjb Interesting experiments Ron. In the interest of safety, I'm just curious what the output current rating on the thing is? Sounds like it's pretty low, which might give you a margin for error. Are fence electrifiers of that sort intended just to give you a bite without killing you? Just curious. Be well, Mike D. [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@mail.id.net ] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS> OL' Snappy
Hi list; An electric fence charger was at the auction last night so I picked it up for some CS fun. It puts out three ranges, the highest is 1200 volts ac which is the ranged I used. The first thing I tried was with the ground wire to a 1" x 1" wetted plate and the 'fence' wire to a supended plate spaced 1" and above the water. To get things going I dipped the plate corner and than set it 1/8" above the water suface. The unit indicator light showed that a circuit was made and a cone of water filled the gap. I let this cooked for 20 minutes. CS was clear, showed good tyndall no sparks, sort of like a shadow, light CS taste very drinkable. To check it I put 2 oz in four cups from my algae bucket in the green house. scopeaction scope result cup 1 - live swimmers none live swimmers at end of trail cup 2 - " " 1/4 ts HVAC CS instant death to many all dead 15 min cup 3 - " " 1/4 ts LVDC CS instant death to many all dead 3 min cup 4 - " " 1/4 ts DWlive swimmers at end of trail The LVDC CS was made with 24 vdc pulsed, 1" X 1" wetted plates 2" space in 1 gal DW for 1 hour. The next batch I used a full wave rec to give 1200 v DC. I used the same setup I used for the LVDC above. This made brown water with heavy trees. The plates where a mess. Did not test this stuff, pitched. Next I set it up as my LVDC CS maker but used the HVAC instead. I put a spark-plug in series with the 'fence' side of the circuit and set the gap so there was a steady arc. This turned out to be a .015 gap. After 20 min I checked for tyndall, none. I ran the trail as above and all swimmers were dead within a minute. There was bearly a taste and it was clear. After 1 hour just a hint of tyndall, like a fog or shadow. Good taste and clear. All swimmers instantly killed. I checked the kill under the scope and happens so fast I could not see it happen. ( Can anyone on the list do slow motion under the scope? ) I am going to check out this HVAC batch over the next week on what ails me. Sure I can count on a few cuts etc. to try it on. I was careful setting this thing up but still got nailed 3 times...RONjb -- bye...Ron -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>Silver///Day 17
6T in 3 doses (100 ppm) Feeling better today. Not overwhelmed with Herx. I am writing a little earlier so I have time to talk about my EARS... When I put CS in my ears and hold it there for 15 minutes, the reactions are amazing. Dizziness, sweating, pain, pain in sinuses and teeth, etc. And it lasts for some time after, so now I do it before I go to bed. My ears actually ache afterward. And my sinuses throb. Each time gets just a little less intense. I am going on the assumption it is not an allergy, since I do get a little better each time. I am truly wondering if it is absorbing through the eardrum into other areas of my head. Some think TMJ is candida, and I have had tooth and bone problems in my jaw which might be infection. And sinuses. I am wondering if the ear (or maybe the nose and throat if I held it there for 15 munutes) is a direct entry into the blood supply of the head...maybe the blood/brain barrier stops it otherwise. I had a slight odor in my ears that I thought was normal. I also had a kind of crusting that I thought was dry skin. Now the odor is gone and so is the crusting...it got a little less each time. Hmmm. Tonight I want to try breathing silver vapor. Wonder what THAT will do ~^^V^^~ -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>TECHNICAL HELP NEEDED/To Brooks
At 02:53 AM 5/29/99 -0500, you wrote: >Dear Vilik. >I just read your post. Let me take a moment and >discuss this. In our evaluations which included WaterOz, they >wereprimarilyones involving Colloidal Silver as a single protocol >agent. The material gave excellent results.IN THIS SETTING. We used only >CS generated in our own labfor experiments involving combination components >in solution. While we have conducted many different protocols, involving many >different protocol combinationsincluding several different families of >substances-precipitates were never a problem with any of our CS solutions, >NO MATTER WHICH GENERATION PROTOCOL we employed (high voltage AC or low >voltage DC). >Your post troubles me because you, simply, should not be having the >kind of chemical reaction you are reporting-unless there is some type of >contamination in the aloe vera solution. Pure aloe juice HAS NEVER caused any >type of precipitate to form in any CS---or combinationCS solution we have >employed. We have mixed pure aloe vera (cold processed) extract with a >super-saturated MSM solution and then added a 30% (by liquid volume) portion of >5 to 10 ppm CS..many times, and NEVER encountered precipitation >conditions. Some of these solutions have remained, untended, for many >days-still no visible alterations to the composite solution. >In my opinion, something is not as it should be in your >protocol. There are many possibilities, but the most obvious candidate is the >Colloidal Silver or the Aloe Vera. I would suggest a simple variation of your >present mixing procedure. First, mix only the CS and the MSMin a small >quantity and observe the results. Next, mix only CS and Aloe Vera and observe >the results. Next, mix MSM and Aloe Vera and observe. Finally, mix all three >and observe. This examination may furnish you a reasonableand >visible---answer. I believe you may find the "bad actor". >Do let me know your results. >Sincerely. Brooks Bradley. >P.S. Personally, I would not consume any CS solution that exhibited >precipitates-OF ANY FASHION. ~~~ Brooks, Excellent suggestions. I will follow them today and report my results. My aloe does have a preservative in it. I will get a pure one and try that too. Thanks so very much for the help. Vilik > -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>Re: silver-digest Digest V99 #264
Michael, I usually take mine at night before I go to bed, to give them all night to repopulate themselves before I start pouring silver on them again in the morning. It seems to be working really well Also, swishing the silver or holding it in your mouth for several minutes before swollowing helps it absorb before it hits the gut, and depopulates all your flora. Sparrow -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>Ever-Living Liver
Chuck wrote: I knew a guy that took Carter's Little Liver Pills for over 20 years. When he died, they had to beat his liver to death with a stick Too bad - would have made a good transplant. Alonzo Get free e-mail and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=1 -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS re; Good and bad Bacteria
Ivan Anderson wrote: . > However it is misleading to say that aerobic = good bacteria. > Most of the pathogens used (and disabled :-) ) in Andrew Sloops recent > post are aerobes, both Gram negative (negatively charged) and Gram > positive and are problem microbes in our society. > Yes you are correct on this. I was corrected on this by our researcher at UT and should have known better. > Do you mean that you applied a CS containing gel to the same media as > you applied liquid CS? > We have found that CS is only ineffective when applying discs to agar > because the CS will not 'wet' the agar or migrate though the medium > and hence has no zone of inhibition. If a swab saturated with CS is > wiped across the medium, a different result is found. > The protocol that was used at UT was to mix the bacteria with the agar, then mix in SL for the test, and distilled water for the control. Thus the SL and bacteria were both trapped within the gel together, but were immobalized. Then they looked for colonies within the mixture. That protocol seemed to have virtually no difference between the test and control. But when the CS was mixed with the bacteria first, let to sit an hour, then mixed with the agar, there was a 100% kill. Your surface test turned out as I would expect, we have also done this, I believe they called it a zone test, with similar results. > I notice in your research paper you state: > "It has been determined specifically that oxygen reacts with anaerobic > bacteria and viruses with the sulfhydryl (-S-H) groups surrounding the > surface. It removes the hydrogen (converting it to water) so that the > sulfur atoms form an -R-S-S-R bond. This interferes with the organism' > s transport or membrane proteins and deactivates them.(5)" > If you notice that has a footnote, that is from research from the Silver Institute. We have done no tests to verify this claim. > I think you will find that silver acts similarly, rather than having a > catalytic effect (a catalyst takes no part in a reaction). Silver ions > form 'reversible bonds with enzymes and other active molecules on the > surface of cells. The active sites on enzymes which are effected by > the biologically active ionic form of silver, are the electron > rich -SH groups. Due to its sulphydral binding propensity, > biologically available silver disrupts membranes, disables proteins > and inhibits enzymes.' > I believe you are incorrect that a catalyst can take no part in the reaction. For some catalyzed operations, such as making polyethylene, it does not take part, but acts as a templet. But in other instances it can take place in the reaction, but what happens is that it is involved for only a moment, then ends up back like it was. For instance you want to react A and B, but they will not react. The addition of a catalyst causes A to react with the catalyst (or at least be absorbed onto the surface, which is what I am claiming for CS), then it becomes available to B to react with it, so you end up with A reacted with B, and the catalyst unchanged. This is still considered a catalytic operation. > There are other points I would like you to expand upon if possible. > 1. You say the pathogen is oxidised and in this way killed. Does this > mean that the pathogen is killed by the loss of electrons? > Oxygen is fatal to most if not all aneorobic organisms. Some are very sensitive, such as botulism, which is killed or at least inhibited by exposure to air. Others require a more reactive form such as ozone or hydrogen peroxide. The exact mechanism by which it is toxic I am not sure of, unless the above from the Silver Institute is correct for all organisms. > 2. You say also that: "Silver is a catalyst. Thus, as soon as a > particle of silver has oxidised a pathogen, the pathogen loses its' > negative charge and floats away, and the silver is free to attack > another pathogen." > > If the pathogen loses its negative charge (oxidised) this must mean > that the silver ion has gained an electron and is reduced, to > elemental silver. Can you expand? Sorry for the confusion. I see what the problem is with this. OK this is what I see happening. The organism has an enzyme that gives it a negative charge, so as to repel oxygen. Silver by having a positive charge attracts both oxygen and the organism to it's surface, bringing them together, so they can combine, and they do. The oxygen is fatal to the organism, it dies, and thus stops producing the enzyme. Without the enzyme it no longer maintains a negative charge, and thus breaks away from the positive charge grasp of the silver. As I stated in the paper, there is obviously more to this than that. If that is all there was to it, then CS would not kill aerobic organisms, which it does. At this point we are trying to find all the answers, but certainly have not done so yet, and can certainly stumble along the way as well. If you or anyone finds errors in the objective analysis
Re: CS>TECHNICAL HELP NEEDED!
Could you check the ph on the aloe vera you have been using? Perhaps it is not as acidic as what we have been using. Also how long did you wait for precipitation? We were seeing it on the order of weeks, although spectrophotometer measurements showed aggregation, but not precipitation, starting within hours. Also I would be happy to send you some of our pure aloe vera power for you to experiment with as well. Thanks, Marshall Brooks Bradley wrote: > Dear Vilik. > I just read your post. Let me take a moment and > discuss this. In our evaluations which included WaterOz, they > wereprimarilyones involving Colloidal Silver as a single protocol > agent. The material gave excellent results.IN THIS SETTING. We used only > CS generated in our own labfor experiments involving combination > components > in solution. While we have conducted many different protocols, involving > many > different protocol combinationsincluding several different families of > substances-precipitates were never a problem with any of our CS solutions, > NO MATTER WHICH GENERATION PROTOCOL we employed (high voltage AC or low > voltage DC). > Your post troubles me because you, simply, should not be having the > kind of chemical reaction you are reporting-unless there is some type of > contamination in the aloe vera solution. Pure aloe juice HAS NEVER caused any > type of precipitate to form in any CS---or combinationCS solution we have > employed. We have mixed pure aloe vera (cold processed) extract with a > super-saturated MSM solution and then added a 30% (by liquid volume) portion > of > 5 to 10 ppm CS..many times, and NEVER encountered precipitation > conditions. Some of these solutions have remained, untended, for many > days-still no visible alterations to the composite solution. > In my opinion, something is not as it should be in your > protocol. There are many possibilities, but the most obvious candidate is the > Colloidal Silver or the Aloe Vera. I would suggest a simple variation of > your > present mixing procedure. First, mix only the CS and the MSMin a small > quantity and observe the results. Next, mix only CS and Aloe Vera and observe > the results. Next, mix MSM and Aloe Vera and observe. Finally, mix all three > and observe. This examination may furnish you a reasonableand > visible---answer. I believe you may find the "bad actor". > Do let me know your results. > Sincerely. Brooks Bradley. > P.S. Personally, I would not consume any CS solution that exhibited > precipitates-OF ANY FASHION. > Vilik Rapheles wrote: > > > To anyone on the list who knows something about science (or who has used > > WaterOz Silver) I have some questions: > > > > I am using WaterOz silver, which is vaporized, and according to the company > > has particles much smaller than a molecule. It looks like water. It is pure > > silver and distilled reverse osmosis etc water. > > > > However, when anything is added to it, it turns grey/black. > > > > I made up some aloe/msm/silver, and by 1/2 hour it was almost black. > > > > I talked to the company. The said the silver is still in solution. At first > > they said it "bonds" with other things. I said, "Then is it creating other > > substances?" Then they said it "reacts" to other things. Maybe they don't > > know. > > > > Do other forms of silver do this? No one has mentioned this. Could this be > > tested? > > > > Is there anyone out there who used WaterOz and got better on it? (I know a > > few of you got better on something else and then switched to WaterOz for > > maintenance, but am wondering if anyone has used this as the form of cs > > which helped them get well.) > > > > I chose this brand because of Brook's success with it. But I really would > > like to know more about what it means that it turns grey/black, because if > > it does that when it meets other substances in a glass, surely it is doing > > it in my body. > > > > Would greatly appreciate any thoughts or experiences. > > > > ~^^V^^~ > > > > -- > > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > > > To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: > > silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > > with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > > > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > > > > List maintainer: Mike Devour > > -- > MZ¡ > > -- > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: > silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > > List maintainer: Mike Devour -- The sil
Re: CS>FW: Private research
It seems that we are doing similar research. However all our research has been on the Silver Lightning product, which is using the HVAC process. I would like to do some side by side research between the HVAC product, and the DC product. I don't think this has ever been done before. Would you be interested in collaborating on our research? I would be happy to send you a gallon of the Silver Lightning for you to work with, and we can do PPM testing for you, as well as spectrophotometer measurements. let me know if you are interested. Thanks, Marshall -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Inhhaling CS into LUNGS
If used quickly it might not be a problem, however, I can't say for sure. Marshall Vilik Rapheles wrote: > Someone on another list had an exact protocol for this, which involved > getting one of those steamers used to give facials and putting cs instead > of water in it...I think he added vinegar (but now that I know about > aggregation and acid that wouldn't seem like a good idea.) > > I was thinking of getting a plant mister and/or boiling it in a pot and > inhaling. I got a small perfume mister but the spray is too wimpy to travel > very far. > > ~^^V^^~ > > At 04:41 PM 5/28/99 -0500, you wrote: > >Does anyone have experience inhaling CS into the lungs?? > >Does it work well against lung infections used in that way? > > > >what kind of atomizer works well for this? > > > > > >-- > >The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > > >To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: > >silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > >with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > > > >To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > > > >List maintainer: Mike Devour > > > > > > > > -- > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: > silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > > List maintainer: Mike Devour -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Fw: New Experimental CS X Oxygen Protocol For Unresponsive Pulmonary Pathogens
>To all interested list members. >I would like to relate an experimental protocol recently developed by one of our younger (and brighter) staff members. He originated the idea and assembled all parts into a working model in less than two days---after his original inspiration. The original problem manifested as a result of our fruitless search for some effective procedure for attacking the bi-lateral form of those bacterial pneumonias which have proved non-responsive to all of the anti-biotic protocols. This challenge has been especially dear to our hearts since one of our engineers lost his 47 year old wife (a wonderful school teacher), at the age of 47nine years ago. >We have used this system on 3 volunteersand this onlywithin the past four weeks. However, we have been absolutely astounded by the results. One 75 year old ashma sufferer, unable to gain more than momentary relief during the past 8 years, was able to dispense with his very labor-intensive (unbelieveably costly) hospice-assisted protocols18 days after undertaking this protocol. We now suspect that his ashma was the result of some form of secondary bacterial pathogen..this because of the speed and degree of his recovery. I've been telling people for quite a few years, try antibotics on that asthma and see what happens. I know because my son was cured for a year or so of asthma when the doctor said there wasn't anything that we could do about it.. Take Care Reid -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: cs and viruses
>Teri, >I too have had Epstien Barr & CMV. > >Both of which are nowhere to be found in my body! > >I've been taking CS now since Jan '99 & after two weeks the CMV was almost >reversed & the EB severe itching/sores in the armpits & hideous night sweats >had gone. > >I haven't had any Herpes attacks either since taking CS. > >I can' t recommend (10ppm of CS) enough, It certainly saved my life. > >Simon Caleb - The Silver Surfer Dear Simon, You go, Boy!!! Hooray for Simon! and CS Love, Marsha -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS re; Good and bad Bacteria
- Original Message - From: Marshall Dudley Thanks for this Marshall, Its great to see a vendor interested in establishing and publishing such research. > Although the common wisdom is that CS only kills bad bacteria, testing > that we have had done at the University of Tennessee over the last few > months indicates that this is incorrect. We found that CS kills both > aerobic (good) as well as bad (anaerobic) bacteria pretty well equally. > Since many bacteria can convert between the two types at will > (polymorphic), this is really a plus. This is not surprising to us on the list. See the threads on repopulating the bowel. Many of the "facts" found out there are only half truths. However it is misleading to say that aerobic = good bacteria. Most of the pathogens used (and disabled :-) ) in Andrew Sloops recent post are aerobes, both Gram negative (negatively charged) and Gram positive and are problem microbes in our society. > What we found was the CS is only effective when in a liquid medium, ie. > in the stomach, or blood stream, or applied topically in liquid form. > If we used CS in a gel or solid matrix (ie. agar agar), it was basically > ineffective against all bacteria, good and bad... Do you mean that you applied a CS containing gel to the same media as you applied liquid CS? We have found that CS is only ineffective when applying discs to agar because the CS will not 'wet' the agar or migrate though the medium and hence has no zone of inhibition. If a swab saturated with CS is wiped across the medium, a different result is found. I notice in your research paper you state: "It has been determined specifically that oxygen reacts with anaerobic bacteria and viruses with the sulfhydryl (-S-H) groups surrounding the surface. It removes the hydrogen (converting it to water) so that the sulfur atoms form an -R-S-S-R bond. This interferes with the organism' s transport or membrane proteins and deactivates them.(5)" I think you will find that silver acts similarly, rather than having a catalytic effect (a catalyst takes no part in a reaction). Silver ions form 'reversible bonds with enzymes and other active molecules on the surface of cells. The active sites on enzymes which are effected by the biologically active ionic form of silver, are the electron rich -SH groups. Due to its sulphydral binding propensity, biologically available silver disrupts membranes, disables proteins and inhibits enzymes.' There are other points I would like you to expand upon if possible. 1. You say the pathogen is oxidised and in this way killed. Does this mean that the pathogen is killed by the loss of electrons? 2. You say also that: "Silver is a catalyst. Thus, as soon as a particle of silver has oxidised a pathogen, the pathogen loses its' negative charge and floats away, and the silver is free to attack another pathogen." If the pathogen loses its negative charge (oxidised) this must mean that the silver ion has gained an electron and is reduced, to elemental silver. Can you expand? Thanks Ivan -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Silver///Day 16
V, I would keep on using it. What you are going through is the same thing I went through in the beginning of my first good herx. The jaw pains and face problems is gone now and the ear is very mild. Hang in there. Donna -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>FW: Private research
- Original Message - From: Andrew Sloop To: Sent: Saturday, 29 May 1999 16:18 Subject: CS>FW: Private research > Hello all > I have permission from Vince to repost this message. There apparently was > not much missing. Excellent report. Thank you Andrew. Regards - Ivan. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: cs and viruses
Teri, I too have had Epstien Barr & CMV. Both of which are nowhere to be found in my body! I've been taking CS now since Jan '99 & after two weeks the CMV was almost reversed & the EB severe itching/sores in the armpits & hideous night sweats had gone. I haven't had any Herpes attacks either since taking CS. I can' t recommend (10ppm of CS) enough, It certainly saved my life. Simon Caleb - The Silver Surfer - Original Message - From: > Hi, l have a cousin in law...that has been diagnosed with epstein barr, > parvo, cmv and cfsyndrome do any of you have experience with cs and can > tell me if there is any evidence that cs will be effective in killing these > viruses. She has lost sight in one eye..and is having major difficulties in > all her body...if l could find some evidence or personal testimonies of some > that have been healed of these ..l might be able to persuade her to take it. > thank you for any information anyone has. sincerely teri. > > > -- > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: > silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > > List maintainer: Mike Devour > > -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>TECHNICAL HELP NEEDED!
Dear Vilik. I just read your post. Let me take a moment and discuss this. In our evaluations which included WaterOz, they wereprimarilyones involving Colloidal Silver as a single protocol agent. The material gave excellent results.IN THIS SETTING. We used only CS generated in our own labfor experiments involving combination components in solution. While we have conducted many different protocols, involving many different protocol combinationsincluding several different families of substances-precipitates were never a problem with any of our CS solutions, NO MATTER WHICH GENERATION PROTOCOL we employed (high voltage AC or low voltage DC). Your post troubles me because you, simply, should not be having the kind of chemical reaction you are reporting-unless there is some type of contamination in the aloe vera solution. Pure aloe juice HAS NEVER caused any type of precipitate to form in any CS---or combinationCS solution we have employed. We have mixed pure aloe vera (cold processed) extract with a super-saturated MSM solution and then added a 30% (by liquid volume) portion of 5 to 10 ppm CS..many times, and NEVER encountered precipitation conditions. Some of these solutions have remained, untended, for many days-still no visible alterations to the composite solution. In my opinion, something is not as it should be in your protocol. There are many possibilities, but the most obvious candidate is the Colloidal Silver or the Aloe Vera. I would suggest a simple variation of your present mixing procedure. First, mix only the CS and the MSMin a small quantity and observe the results. Next, mix only CS and Aloe Vera and observe the results. Next, mix MSM and Aloe Vera and observe. Finally, mix all three and observe. This examination may furnish you a reasonableand visible---answer. I believe you may find the "bad actor". Do let me know your results. Sincerely. Brooks Bradley. P.S. Personally, I would not consume any CS solution that exhibited precipitates-OF ANY FASHION. Vilik Rapheles wrote: > To anyone on the list who knows something about science (or who has used > WaterOz Silver) I have some questions: > > I am using WaterOz silver, which is vaporized, and according to the company > has particles much smaller than a molecule. It looks like water. It is pure > silver and distilled reverse osmosis etc water. > > However, when anything is added to it, it turns grey/black. > > I made up some aloe/msm/silver, and by 1/2 hour it was almost black. > > I talked to the company. The said the silver is still in solution. At first > they said it "bonds" with other things. I said, "Then is it creating other > substances?" Then they said it "reacts" to other things. Maybe they don't > know. > > Do other forms of silver do this? No one has mentioned this. Could this be > tested? > > Is there anyone out there who used WaterOz and got better on it? (I know a > few of you got better on something else and then switched to WaterOz for > maintenance, but am wondering if anyone has used this as the form of cs > which helped them get well.) > > I chose this brand because of Brook's success with it. But I really would > like to know more about what it means that it turns grey/black, because if > it does that when it meets other substances in a glass, surely it is doing > it in my body. > > Would greatly appreciate any thoughts or experiences. > > ~^^V^^~ > > -- > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: > silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > > List maintainer: Mike Devour -- MZ¡ -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>Fw: P.S. To CS X O2 Hardware Assembly Instruction Post
Dear Dudley and other interested list members. This is the third and last of my original posts on this matter. I hope this is of value. Sincerely. Brooks Bradley. -Original Message- From: Brooks Bradley To: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Saturday, April 24, 1999 6:08 PM Subject: P.S. To CS X O2 Hardware Assembly Instruction Post Dear List Members. I failed to include a suggestion, which some may find of critical importance. If you do not have immediate access to an O2 supply, and encounter an EMERGENCY experiment, you can connect into any available air compressor outlet (however, youmay have to change out the Compressor-side fitting). To be safe, let the air compressor charge to 35 psi and disconnect it from the power grid. There will be ample air pressure to execute your protocol. The air-brush will function quite well to below 20 psi. Although your air-supply may be contaminatedthe alternative to getting CS into the VOLUNTEER animal/pet may a much more grave situation, We had excellent, but less spectacular results using compressed air as the driving medium in some animal experiments in 1998...when addressing some serious pulmonary compromises involving felines. Sincerely. Brooks Bradley.
CS>Fw: Parts List and Comments on CSXO2 Nebulizing System
Dear Dudley. This is the second post, listing the parts/assembly required. Brooks Bradley. -Original Message- From: Brooks Bradley To: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Saturday, April 24, 1999 5:12 PM Subject: Parts List and Comments on CSXO2 Nebulizing System Good Afternoon List Members. Following is a list of the components required for enabling the protocol we used in the experimental researches I outlined last evening. The air-brush kit we used, was obtained from a mail-order concern specializing in myriad hardware/electrical/hand-tool items. Their quality is toward the low-end industrial, but quite adequate for the home/hobby user. Our machine shop/proto-type builders have used them for years. The company is Harbor Freight, located in Camarillo, California. They now have outlets in one or two other cities. We obtained our air-brush kits from the Fort Worth, Texas store (we are located in Fort Worth). The stock number is #6131. Our purchasing person informed me this item cost us less than $10.00 each, and the last 20 purchased cost less than $8.00. As of last Wednesday, this store still had some of these units. Included in the kit are two liquid -supply bottles (one 1/2 and one 1 oz), one air hose which couples between the pressure regulator and the air-brush assembly; one air pressure regulator; and the air-brush assembly itself. The additional parts required are for a hose assembly which facilitates coupling the input side of the air pressure regulator with the external oxygen supply used to power the nebulizer. Note: PURCHASE BRASS FITTINGS ONLY, oxygen is the pre-eminent combustion supporter. All of these components can be obtained from any commercial outlet stocking pneumatic system parts. This hose assembly includes: One 1/4" Compression X 1/8" Male NPT fitting (this is very important, for without it you cannot connect the O2 hose to the air-brush pressure regulator) One 1/4" Barb X 1/8" NPTF Fitting One 1/4" X 9/16 RH Oxygen Fitting (will have a barb fitting on one end and the female coupling on the other) Approximately 4 feet of any good !/4 I.D. 200+ PSI air hose. Tell the clerk you are going to use oxygen in the hose. Assemble the parts by screwing the Compression fitting into the 1/4" Barb X 1/8" Male NPT fitting. Do not worry, only one end of the Compression fitting is compatible with the Barb fitting. Next, insert the barb end of this fitting assemby into the air hose. Push the hose on until it is jam against the shoulder of the fitting. Any small, screw or compression-type clamp may be used to add security to the hose/fitting end. Next, insert the barb end of the Oxygen fitting into the remaining hose end and secure with any satisfactory clamp. Your assembly is now complete. Next, carefully screw the exposed male end of the Compression fitting into the bottom of the air-brush pressure regulator. Now connect the small-diameter air-line between the air-brush assembly and the pressure regulator (it is fool-proof, as there is nowhere else this tiny hose can connect). Select the small fluid-supply bottle and fill approximately 75-80% of capacity with 5-10 ppm Colloidal Silver and insert the angled tip assembly into the bottom of the air-brush assembly. You are now ready to connect to your O2 supply and operate. Obtain a small medical O2 bottle (anywhere around 1/2 to 1 cubic feet capacity) or any size O2 Arc welding system bottle. Be sure to have a Two-stage regulator attached to the O2 bottle. Now, connect the 9/16" Oxygen-fitting to the O2 outlet from the Two-stage regulator (also foo-proof, as there is nowhere else to connect). Now SLOWLY open the O2 control knob on the O2 regulator and set the inlet prssure to your nebulizer assembly to a Maximum of 35 Pounds Per Square Inch (PSI).Next, screw the AIR-BRUSH air pressure regulator control knob (the tiny knob on top of the air pressure regulator) all the way closed.. Now, open the control knob about 2 and one-half turns. Next, trigger the control botton on the Air-brush head until you see a fine fog each time you press down on the button. The mist is so fine, you may have to hold it against a dark back ground to see it. You are now ready to go. Our best results were obtained by the volunteer inserting the discharge nozzle about 1 inch inside their OPEN mouth and breathing deep---an long---on each inhalation; holding the breath for a count of 3 or 4 and then executing a complete exhalation. Ideally, there should be about 1/4" circular clearance around the air-brush head (while inside the mouth), as this provides the optimum venturi action for incorporating air with the O2. In acut
CS>Fw: New Experimental CS X Oxygen Protocol For Unresponsive Pulmonary Pathogens
Dear Marshall. and all other interested list members. Since you are the sixth person to make a similar request today, I will take this opportunity to answer all of you with this series of re-posts. This is the first, the second and third will follow immediately. Sincerely. Brooks Bradley. -Original Message- From: Brooks Bradley To: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Friday, April 23, 1999 10:45 PM Subject: New Experimental CS X Oxygen Protocol For Unresponsive Pulmonary Pathogens To all interested list members. I would like to relate an experimental protocol recently developed by one of our younger (and brighter) staff members. He originated the idea and assembled all parts into a working model in less than two days---after his original inspiration. The original problem manifested as a result of our fruitless search for some effective procedure for attacking the bi-lateral form of those bacterial pneumonias which have proved non-responsive to all of the anti-biotic protocols. This challenge has been especially dear to our hearts since one of our engineers lost his 47 year old wife (a wonderful school teacher), at the age of 47nine years ago. We have used this system on 3 volunteersand this onlywithin the past four weeks. However, we have been absolutely astounded by the results. One 75 year old ashma sufferer, unable to gain more than momentary relief during the past 8 years, was able to dispense with his very labor-intensive (unbelieveably costly) hospice-assisted protocols18 days after undertaking this protocol. We now suspect that his ashma was the result of some form of secondary bacterial pathogen..this because of the speed and degree of his recovery. Another of our volunteers (71 years), afflicted with a sub-clinical bronchial infection-non-responsive to any protocolincluding Rife Beam Ray Therapy, has improved by at least 75% within the past 21 days.and shows every indication of complete resolution within the next week or so. This volunteer was in perfect health in every other wayexcept for the bronchial disorder (complicated by a minor but persistant post-nasal drainage) The third volunteer was an 81 year old male, completely non-responsive to all therapies for bi-lateral pneumonia of a bacterial nature. This condition had persisted for 6 months and he was approaching a moribund state, very rapidly. 24 hours after beginning this protocol, he encountered a very serious crisis evolving from major Herxheimer's Reaction. Pustule formation was so rapid and intense, 100% oxygen support was requiredand the treatment protocol was suspended for two days, while the volunteer's condition was stabilized. Two days after resumption of the Oxygen-CS protocol, no supporting O2 therapy was required as the subject was fully able to breathe adequately unassisted. The volume of sputum/pus fluid was massive. Excepting very sore chest area (from prolonged coughing) the volunteer was much improved. Within five days he became very alert and began to overcome his narcoleptic tendencies. Within ten days he became ambulatory again. Within 15 days his lungs were unobstructed enough he could breathe fully, with no audio evidence of fluid presence in the pulmonary tract. Yesterday (the 21st day) his lungs checked to be 90% clear, with only one tiny spot in the lower left quadrant of the left lung. His M.D. pulmonary specialist is in a state of "schock" over the developments. His analysis is this is the most pronounced case of "spontaneous remission" in his 30 years of practice. No one has informed the M.D. of our experimental protocols, used on this volunteer. Our volunteer's immediate family is so irate over the fact that his alleopathic pulmonary "team" was totally unable to reverse his decline toward immediate life-departure (the crisis management team did offer to place him on 100% life support until clinical death) they wanted to instigate some form of legal action. We reminded them of their earlier agreement with us, that regardless of the outcome of our experimental protocol, "neither the procedural result nor the protocol itself, would be broached with the volunteer's alleopathic counsel".Additionally, based upon the anecdotal nature of this one case, there is no way to prove efficacy. THE PROTOCOL;This consists simply of using a nebulizing system constructed from a conventional artist's air-brush assembly, with modified pneumatic plumbing facilitating its connection to a pressure-regulated pure O2 supply. The air-brush mechanism was chosen because it provides an exeptionally economcal means of furnishing a very small particle aerosol fog (4 micron vicinity). Using a very simple adapter from the air-brush pressure regulator, to the O2 supply hose coupling, plus a stan
RE: cs and viruses
Unverified reports of what has been diagnosed by MDs as being Hep. C. : back to work in 3 weeks. Herpes Simplex is a virus. I used to have nasty ones. I have not had one since I started taking CS ~ 4 years. Unverified reports of prostate cancer. James Osbourne, Holmes a...@trail.com -Original Message- From: teri...@aol.com [SMTP:teri...@aol.com] Sent: Friday, May 28, 1999 9:02 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject:cs and viruses Hi, l have a cousin in law...that has been diagnosed with epstein barr, parvo, cmv and cfsyndrome do any of you have experience with cs and can tell me if there is any evidence that cs will be effective in killing these viruses. She has lost sight in one eye..and is having major difficulties in all her body...if l could find some evidence or personal testimonies of some that have been healed of these ..l might be able to persuade her to take it. thank you for any information anyone has. sincerely teri. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>FW: Private research
Hello all I have permission from Vince to repost this message. There apparently was not much missing. Andy -Original Message- From: 3wis...@wishgranted.com [mailto:3wis...@wishgranted.com] Sent: Friday, May 28, 1999 2:06 PM To: Andrew Sloop Subject: Private reseach Hello Andrew, I would like to mention that the communication below is written by an experienced medical technologist, whom is in charge of a lab at a hospital. (currentuy annonymous) It should be noted that this medical technologist is quite experienced, and that the tests were done at the hospital lab. However; this is private research, such as it is. I feel it is important to push this type of information forward. This information and much more will be presented in our next version of "The colloidal silver maker & researchers manual". Synergenesis, (TM) Inc. By___ Vince Goetsch Pres. / Chmn. http://www.wishgranted.com http://www.synergenesis.com "I have been doing my own research on colloidal silver. It was only amonth ago that it came to my attention; firstly,because a friend handed me a generator asking what I thought about it and secondly, because I had just read a comment by U.S. Justice Dept.. Attorney-investigator John Loftus about a substance called Movidyn which the Russians found being produced in the satellite state of Czechoslovakia. They were more than a little concerned and removed the plant because Movidyn was found to be an effective antidote against every microorganism in their bio-warfare arsenal ! Then, Loftus said Movidyn was a powder form of colloidal silver ! Since pure drinkable water may become a life and death issue in this country within the next 12 months, I became very interested. My investigations have only proven half of what I'd like to know but I am convinced that colloidal silver is definitely an amazing substance. I'll share what I have determined so far. Firstly, the pure Coll.. Ag should be generated slowly in pure distilled water (no salt or other additive) with a 27, or preferably, 36 volt source, and with .999 pure silver electrodes. Carried to a self limited end point where electrode oxide forms too rapidly to continue generation), a strong solution is produced which is colorless and crystal clear at the time. But after 12-24 hours (store in a dark place), the solution accomplishes what is called colloid dispersion whereon it turns a beautiful yellow-gold to amber-gold color- the deeper, the higher the colloid content. Still the solution is crystal clear. Now, at the time of generation, or after dispersion, you can appraise yourself of the presence and concentration (relatively) of the colloidal silver content via the 'Tyndal effect' method. This is best done with one of these laser pen lights. In a dark room you direct the light beam through the solution (in a glass container). The colloid particles will cause the appearance of a distinct shaft of white light through the solution, sometimes as distinct as a shaft of wood. (Pure water will give no such effect at all.) In my work, I have not had the advantage of quantitative ' parts per million' analysis of the solutions I have generated.(I understand that such is a little expensive.) So far, I have bent my investigation toward anti-bacterial studies. In these studies, I have used CDC standard pathogenic organisms- Staph.aureus, beta hemolytic streptococcus pyogenes, Psuedomonas aeruginosa, Proteus mirabilis and Bacillus subtillus (spore former), and Escherichia coli. Test suspensions of these organisms for testing have been BHI broth type at concentration of approximately one million organisms per cc. In other words, so far I have tested with an overburden of bacterial concentration. Shortly, I will test for effect with lightly contaminated specimens.(as I can find time!) So- my delightful findings so far are these- with a strongly generated Coll.Ag. Sol. used against very strong suspension of each of the above mentioned organisms: If I inoculate 2 cc. Ag. Sol. with one drop (50,000 organisms), I get a total kill in less than 3 minutes. (total kill determined by subculture of the Ag. and organism mixture to a Blood Agar plate and incubating overnight); then I can take the original Coll. Ag. solution and make dilutions in distilled water at 1:2, 1:4, 1:8, 1:16, 1:32, 1:64 etc. Then, when I inoculate these dilutions with the above pathogens I can get a total kill of all six types all the way to the 1:32 dilution with an exposure time of 3 minutes! That has been very impressive to me. I realize that I now need work of a finer nature but I first wanted to prove the raw kill power of Coll.. Ag. for myself. I think that a 1:32 dil.. that will kill pathogens at 50,000 org. per drop in less than 3 minutes is really something.( And when I say kill I mean there is not one colony on the Blood Agar plates, and I always run a control plate on each organism suspension which demonstrates the viabil
Re: CS>Inhhaling CS into LUNGS
Someone on another list had an exact protocol for this, which involved getting one of those steamers used to give facials and putting cs instead of water in it...I think he added vinegar (but now that I know about aggregation and acid that wouldn't seem like a good idea.) I was thinking of getting a plant mister and/or boiling it in a pot and inhaling. I got a small perfume mister but the spray is too wimpy to travel very far. ~^^V^^~ At 04:41 PM 5/28/99 -0500, you wrote: >Does anyone have experience inhaling CS into the lungs?? >Does it work well against lung infections used in that way? > >what kind of atomizer works well for this? > > >-- >The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > >To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: >silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com >with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > >To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > >List maintainer: Mike Devour > > > -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>Silver///Day 16
6T in divided doses today. (100 ppm) After finding out about the reaction with aloe am not using that with the silver. Felt somewhat better today (which in my so-far limited experience does happen the day after I use it in my ears.) Jaw on right acting a little strange today. I am wondering if using it in ears affects possible infection in sinuses or jaw. Am also wondering if I am on the right product. (WaterOz). ~^^V^^~ -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS re; Good and bad Bacteria
GO BIG ORANGE!!! I was therein 66-67. Graduated ar ETSU. Both my kids have Masters at UT. Very good paper. Kudos. Kevorkian For White House Physician. Jolly
Re: CS re; Good and bad Bacteria
Although the common wisdom is that CS only kills bad bacteria, testing that we have had done at the University of Tennessee over the last few months indicates that this is incorrect. We found that CS kills both aerobic (good) as well as bad (anaerobic) bacteria pretty well equally. Since many bacteria can convert between the two types at will (polymorphic), this is really a plus. What we found was the CS is only effective when in a liquid medium, ie. in the stomach, or blood stream, or applied topically in liquid form. If we used CS in a gel or solid matrix (ie. agar agar), it was basically ineffective against all bacteria, good and bad. That is apparently the key as to why it seems so effective for so many things, yet does not appear to cause significant problems with the natural bacteria in the intestines. Also of course if the particle size is small enought, most of the silver should be absorbed into the blood stream before it reaches the intestines, although we have done no testing to verify that yet. For the reason why we believe this is so you might be interested in reading a research paper I wrote at http://silver-lightning.com/research2.html Marshall Michael Giammarino wrote: > If CS kills both good and bad bacteria, if one uses CS routinely, > will he have to continue to supplement his body with good > bacteria. How many hours apart, should CS be taken before the good > bacteria is then introduced into the system for purpose of > repopulating? If the good bacteria is taken first, will then all the > CS be killed?
Re: CS>Inhhaling CS into LUNGS
Since I, as well as a number of people I know use CS in a nasal spray container for sinus problems, I would also like this information. Please email me as well if you can. Thanks, Marshall Brooks Bradley wrote: > Dear Larry. > Our research group has conducted rather extensive > evaluations involving the inhalation of Colloidal Silver, by animalsand > volunteer human beings. This is not the venue for a detailed revelation of > our specific resultsand my priviledge to do so might be under some legal > cloud-by our co-research entity. > However, I may be of some assistance by reposting some > general information, previously sent to the general list members. I will > send it to your email address...off-line. > Sincerely. Brooks Bradley. > > Larry wrote: > > > Does anyone have experience inhaling CS into the lungs?? > > Does it work well against lung infections used in that way? > > > > what kind of atomizer works well for this? > > > > -- > > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > > > To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: > > silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > > with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > > > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > > > > List maintainer: Mike Devour > > -- > MZ¡ > > -- > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: > silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > > List maintainer: Mike Devour -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
