Re: CSLew/MSM
Dear Katarina,
Here is the repost.
Lew
Hi Diane,
You wrote:
How does one find pure water?
At the present rate of global pollution, there is really no source
of pure
water.
It is unsafe to drink from streams, rivers and more so from rain water
when acid
rain is very common. The human system is at the centre of an
electro-magnetic
or etheric web which is generated by the bioradiation of tissue
salts and their fellow colloidal mineral concomitants. Every body cell
is
potentially a small magnet. . This etheric shealth covering the body
has been
proven scientifically and clairvoyantly,pulsates in rhythm with the
different
phases of respiration .It is fed by the Vital Force or Prana generated
in the
body The etheric spectrum of colours as demonstrated by Kirlian
photography ,
is a reflection of the quality of our Vital Force which is the
manifestation of
life energy. Hence,
We are what we eat
We are what we drink
We are what we breathe
We are what we think
We are what we practise
The body system has the property to pick
up and to
store extraneous electro-
magnetic oscillations which may be pathological. These are seen in the
etheric web
as cracks [mild] and holes [severe] and serve to unbalance the
individual
mentally,
emotionally or physically . These become thought forms and behave like
etheric
cockroaches or etheric parasites. Therefore, by pure water, I mean that
the water
is not contaiminated by pathological oscillations from whatever
source. As a
rule, anything
that has been touched , handled or exposed to a morbid environment,
should be
magnetised using powerful magnets exceeding 3000 to 5000 gauss to
destroy the
stored up extraneous electro-magnetic oscillations.
If possible,try to be selective in your
choice of
mineral
water for drinking to feed the brain Qi . If doubtful, magnetise the
mineral
water for a few hours before drinking.
With regards
Lew
d.linen wrote:
Lew,
I'm almost speechless here. I can NOT tell you how much I appreciate
your recent posts about this subject. This one is as valuable as the
others. You've explained this in a very helpful, useful way.
I'd like to ask one thing though. How does one find pure water? What
will do or be acceptable?
Your very grateful fan
Diane
Lew Fong How wrote:
it seems you're talking about Yogic pranayama,right ?
. To breathe is to live and to be alive ,one has to
breathe. In
esoteric breathing, life is not measured in terms of years but in the number
of breaths.
Breathing is a mechanical act of inhalation and exhalation of atmospheric
air, in and out of the body. Respiration is an on-going process from womb to
the tomb, a life and energy generating process.
The sanskrit word Prana meaning
Life is the equivalent of
Qi or Vital Force. Ayama means control. Pranayama means control
of Prana
or The Yoga Science of Breath Control. The prana in the atmospheric air
performs a
number of functions in the human body. Each has a specific name:
1. Prana: It circulates around the heart and controls breathing
2. Apna: It circulates in the lower region of the abdomen and controls
excretory
functions [ Urine and faeces]
3. Samana : It stimulates the gastric juices and aids digestion.
4. Udana : It remains in the thoracic cage and controls the absorption of
air and food.
5. Vyana: It spreads throughout the body and distributes the energy from
food and
breath.
6. Naga: It relieves abdominal pressure by provoking excretion.
7. Kurma: It controls the eyelids to prevent foreign bodies from entering
and dazzling
light from harming the eyes.
8. Krkara: It prevents certain substances from rising into the nasal
cavities or
descending into the throat causing sneezing and coughing.
9. Devadutta: It ensures the absorption of extra oxygen into a tired body
and causes
yawning.
10. Dhananjaya: It remains in the body even after death and sometimes
causes the
corpse to swell.
I practise Pranayama by closing my nostrile with index finger and thumb
alternately
first my right ,breathing out slowly through the left and then the left and
breathing slowly through the right nostrile, 10 times daily. One
physio-biochemical rationale of this
practice is to acclimatise the brain to an optimum level of Carbon dioxide
saturation
to maintain patency of the
Re: CSNew MSM product
I just found a new product at the Whole Foods, called Emer'gen-C, with 1000mg of Vitamin C.One of the products also has 1000mg of MSM, 32 mineral complexes, folic acid, B12, magnesium, manganese, potassium, sodium, sulfur, zinc and chromium.It is sold in a box with 36 individual packets that fizz and immediately dissolve in a glass of water, no stirring necessary. 36 packets cost $8.99. They sold the packets separately, so I tried a couple. They dissolve fast, and it tastes o.k., better than plain MSM.Just thought someone might like to know about this product, as it often comes up. Manufacturer is Alacer Corp., Foothill Ranch, CA (800) 854-0249 alacercorp.com Diana -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
CSFw: Redish/Blue toe nails??
Hi All, The toe nail bed on my big toe, left foot, has turned a dark redish/blue over the last few days, and the right foot big toe seems to be joining it. I recently had foot surgery on right foot, so the circulation to the big toe on this foot may be somewhat reduced and could explain why it is less discolored. I started taking homozon about 3 to 4 weeks ago. I moved quickly from 1/4 tsp. a dat to 1 tsp twice a day. Could this be related?Could I be overdoing the Homozon?I stopped taking it yesterday to it the the discoloration would go away. I remember anesthesiologists used to moniter the anesthesia in your system by noting the color of your toe nails and fingernails, but don't know what they were looking for, or what the indications were.Is this redish/blue a sign of too much oxygen? Your thoughts are appreciated, Diana -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CSIt's Time for a newsgroup..
Hello Tim! Welcome to the group! The only way a newsgroup, or this list, could be more controlled is if I (or a team of moderators) read and approved each posting before it could go out. This by itself would slow things to a crawl. Plus, by the nature of usenet news, messages would take days or more to propagate to the entire usenet world, meaning we would totally *lose* the near-real-time exchanges we take for granted here. You wrote: More often than not, replies to the thread in this list, have nothing to do with the thread! The same as in any forum where the listowner doesn't massage every message before it goes out. I've elected not to put the list in full moderation mode for the sake of the responsiveness I mentioned above. I rely on the fact that it is a privelege to post on the list, and that I can remove any individual at any time if they abuse it. This leads to responsible behavior and considerate use, most of the time. We always *can* do better with subject lines and OT stuff. But more on that below... With a newsgroup, you would have the ability to subscribe to the group; get the message headers, then open only the ones you were interested in, instead of having your mailbox filled with junk that you have to delete individually, ( not wanting to miss anything good). Actually, the key to using mailing lists well is learning how to organize your e-mail. Do you use MS Outlook, Eudora, Pegasus Mail, Forte Agent? These are e-mail programs I know for a fact will sort your incoming mail so each mailing list ends up in a separate folder or mailbox. This avoids the whole mailbox filled with junk deal. These filter or sorting functions, sometimes combined with the twit filter feature, are a vital tool to sane list use. I open each folder in turn -- when I'm interested -- scan for good looking threads, read what I want, and delete or keep what I choose. Once a month or so I delete any unread messages over x weeks old since I'm never going to get to them anyway and I don't want my disk to fill up. It's fantastic once you get the hang of setting it up in your e-mail program. Actually, two newsgroups would be better. ... The silver list is growing, because silver works. Soon, the silver list will become unmanageable. You read my mind (and others')! I am in the process of getting the silver list archived so folks can search for past discussions. That's step one. Step two is fleshing out the web site to provide a place for newcomers to get grounded in the subject, to store the FAQ's, and provide a place to post experimental results. Sort of a repository for the consensus of the list. Step three, which is not far off, is to start an alternative health list as a sister to the silver-list, where most of the off topic stuff we get here will be *on* topic. The goal will be to provide the same sort of sheltered, cooperative environment we have formed here. With all this, volume on the silver list will go down some and S/N ratio will go up. We'd still have a place for all these freewheeling discussions. But one thing that will never disappear is a certain level of noise, in the form of OT questions and chit chat. Some of this is necessary to keep the sense of community going. Without that, we lose more than you can imagine. That's the plan, anyway. If you can see any way to make it happen faster, I'm open to collaboration!! GRIN I believe in it, use it, make it, don't sell it.. Let's get a newsgroup. If you can show me how it will improve things, I'd consider it. But I think we're going to get the bases covered by another route. The concerns you have are right on as is your analysis of the future, IMHO. Hopefully we'll be ready for it. Thanks for the ideas! Mike Devour silver-list owner [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@mail.id.net ] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CSIt's Time for a newsgroup..
Chuck wrote: Lists, especially moderated lists, are better than newsgroups. Less anarchy! I find it supremely ironic that the least anarchy is the greatest goal of my efforts, being that I'm as much of an anarchist at heart as most anybody here. grin But, I digress... Mike D. [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@mail.id.net ] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CSIt's Time for a newsgroup..
On Mon, 20 Sep 1999 17:23:49 -0700, Tim Cudzilo t...@primenet.com wrote: This is list is just too much to sort through. A newsgroup is needed. And that would change what? There is too much good information on silver solutions lost in the spew. Think of the manhours wasted sorting through.. More often than not, replies to the thread in this list, have nothing to do with the thread! And a newsgroup would change what? And how? With a newsgroup, you would have the ability to subscribe to the group; get the message headers, then open only the ones you were interested in, instead of having your mailbox filled with junk that you have to delete individually, ( not wanting to miss anything good). Learning the filtering features of your news/mail reader does the same thing. Actually, two newsgroups would be better. alt.silver could contain basic information in the form FAQs, as well as general requests for information and comments. You get a FAQ when you join the newsgroup. You did read it?? alt.binaries.silver could contain diagrams, pdf files, pictures, price lists... whatever. The Godess Victoria has provided a common site (work in progress)! Uh...Right, Oh Godess Currently, ( at least on my news server ) there are no newsgroups using the term silver. The silver list is growing, because silver works. Soon, the silver list will become unmanageable. I believe in it, use it, make it, don't sell it.. Let's get a newsgroup. Lists, especially moderated lists, are better than newsgroups. Less anarchy! Chuck Text processing has made it possible to right-justify any idea, even one which cannot be justified on any other grounds. -- J. Finnegan, USC. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CS colour change - HELP!
Steve; I don't know where you are getting your tap water, but let me relate an account from Dr. D'Antoni, who at the time was presidnet of Standrad Fruit Co. in New Orleans, and I was the Chief Engineer of the Honduras Division. Dr. D'Antoni was a tropical medicine specialist in New Orleans before taking over the company from his father. In discussing the mountain water in LaCeiba Honduras he commemted that tripple distilling Mississippi river was not adequate for the reagents used in tropical disease testing. He ordered his water from Washington state. Your symptones say that the evolved gases must be getting back into the condenser coils or you are running the still to fast. I would suggest that you try running the water through a Britta filter first, then charcoal and after it is made through a separate charcoal filter. So many of today's chemicals have boiling points close to water that some times a frationating column is required. Now your talking money. Question;. How do you know that you have 20 ppm? Have you had it tested? Is there available some commercial DW so that you can make a comparison run? Do you have a digital multimeter to read the cell current? What is the initial cell current? What is the final cell current? The answer to these wquestions will give me a better idae of what you are doing. Ole Bob Ole Bob -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CSIt's Time for a newsgroup..
I think a forum would be better than a newsgroup. Janine -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
CSnebulizer/atomizer
Where can I get an atomizer or nebulizer? I had bronchitis 3 times last winter as did much of my family. I was wondering if I get one of these devices and used it with cs when I have a cold or bronchitis would it nip it in the bud??? Janine -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
CS colour change - HELP!
Dear group: Can anyone please tell me why my CS is turning PINK?!?! I'm using DC to about 20 PPM. When I first began making CS, the solution started clear and then turned yellow and stayed that way for weeks or more. Now the solution starts clear, turns yellow, and after a day or two, it turns pink. I'm also getting some sediment at the bottom of jar - where before there was none. I haven't changed the voltage or electrodes, but I have made a slight change to the water. Could water quality be causing the CS to age quickly? The water I'm using is good ole tap water, distilled once in a stainless steel distiller and post filtered with carbon. Not good enough? many thanx, Steve King -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CSNew electrode assembly - questions...
Hey Vicki... I haven't heard of a standard electrode setup.I gather some use two lengths of silver wire,others use minted silver coins,and then there are the HVAC types. I use a dual coil arrangement;silver wire coiled by winding around a pen to form it,and positioned inside another coil formed by winding around a jar.I have found this setup to be effective as electrode spacing is held consistent,and a large surface area is obtained.(LVDC).Should be interesting to hear what you devise petemc -Original Message- From: Victoria Welch vi...@oz.net To: Silver-List silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Tuesday, 21 September 1999 4:11 Subject: CSNew electrode assembly - questions... Hello All and Thanks in advance. I got some 14 gauge .999 siler wire courtesy of my sister this weekend and am in the process of building up a new electrode assembly. Since the idea (seems to me) is to get to some standard method of doing things, I wanted to ask what everyone else is using for electrode length (total and wetted length) as well as the spacing. Please advise so I can build this thing to the accepted standard. Thanks take care, Vikki. -- Victoria Welch, WV9K, DoD#-13, Net/Sys/WebAdmin SeaStar.org, vikki.oz.net #include coffee.h Walking on water and developing software to specification are easy as long as both are frozen - Edward V. Berard. Do not unto others, that which you would not have others do unto you. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CS[Fwd: CS Problems]
.. to let you know that using a lot of fancy words and mixing them up won't snow us.. Its obvious you are very educated,so treat us the same way. I am here with you all to learn and to share. I work to earn it. Maybe I am merely trying to be as good as you are but not better. There are many things under the sun to talk about, why use fancy words. It is not education you are talking about, you are talking about yourself. . Well, I'm glad you guys are fightin' 'cause I'm learning a LOT! Smile though I'd say one other thing to keep carefully in mind is the potential for language barrier issues. I'm not sure that English is Lew's first language, though he does very well with it. We are a globe-spanning community and it is a great thing for us monolingual folks that others make the effort to communicate with us. Thank you all. Mike D. [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@mail.id.net ] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CS measurements ?!
Check these sites to understand a little more about TDS and conductivity/resistance: http://www.coleparmer.com/Techinfo/Techstuf/condtec.htm http://www.culligan.ca/tds.html http://www.goodwaterco.com/tds.htm - which includes a chart and graph relating TDS to conductivity. Equivalent weight of Ag+ = 100 TDS as CaCo3(equiv. weight 50) x 2 = TDS as Ag+ (this assumes monovalent Ag+ ions) Regards Ivan. - Original Message - From: Victoria Welch vi...@oz.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, 17 September 1999 18:23 Subject: CS measurements ?! James and Ian, [ ... ] I have become accustomed to using PPM because that is what most everyone on the list uses. I don't have a direct formula to convert mS to PPM, but I will get one. My meter displays either. If you have a formula to convert PPM to mS, I would appreciate it if you could pass it along. I now have the Hanna TDS and would like to make it as useful (or potentially so) as possible. ..snip.. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CS colour change - HELP!
On Tue, 21 Sep 1999 11:26:43 +0100, Steve King ssk...@nildram.co.uk wrote: I haven't changed the voltage or electrodes, but I have made a slight change to the water. Could water quality be causing the CS to age quickly? The water I'm using is good ole tap water, distilled once in a stainless steel distiller and post filtered with carbon. Not good enough? many thanx, Steve King That would be my guess. Got a way of measuring your start current? Chuck Division is futile! Prepare to be approximated! Intel -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CSRe: question
Karen Croom wrote: I ... confessed that I thought I might be prejudiced. I was serious, but he started laughing. He knew that I was talking about the white race and we have white skin. Well, I got over that but I still feel like asking forgiveness from people of other races for all of the sins of the past. Chuck wrote: Isn't that something!!! Now your supposed to feel GUILTY just for being who you are. It troubles me most that we are tempted to throw out the *positive* lessons of history because of the failings of the people of the time. The founding principles of my nation -- personal responsibility, individual freedom, property rights, self-government -- were crafted by men and women who were entirely human, within a human culture that was seriously flawed. As a result, the biggest single change from Thomas Jefferson's original draft of the Declaration of Independence and the document finally approved by the Committee of the Whole, was the excision of his eloquent and powerful denunciation of the slave trade. And at the very time these principles brought greater freedom, opportunity, and prosperity to a wider range of people than ever before -- our nation engaged in systematic genocide against Native peoples. Always, the painful reality has lagged behind the promise of our shining principles, and it does so today. And in recent decades it seems our principles have lost considerable ground. But it was those principles that pushed us to achieve. We are still counted among the freest people on earth to the extent that we have held on to them. I firmly believe that the only thing we can do to right the injustice of the past is to prevent the injustice of the future. And the best way to do that remains, today as always, giving people alive today the fullest measure of their basic human birthright: freedom, liberty, property, sovereignty. To the extent we let people live free we honor the greatness -- and atone for the wickedness -- of past generations. And I strongly encourage us all, me included, to steer clear of much further discussion of political philosophy on the silver list, as seductive a temptation as it is. Drat. g Be well, Mike D. [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@mail.id.net ] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CSNew electrode assembly - questions...
I'm using 12 gauge, spacing 2, wetted length 3 1/2. Not an exact standard, but in the ballpark. Hello All and Thanks in advance. I got some 14 gauge .999 siler wire courtesy of my sister this weekend and am in the process of building up a new electrode assembly. Since the idea (seems to me) is to get to some standard method of doing things, I wanted to ask what everyone else is using for electrode length (total and wetted length) as well as the spacing. Please advise so I can build this thing to the accepted standard. Thanks take care, Vikki. [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@mail.id.net ] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
CSWeb forum version is excellent!
http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html I just tried the web forum version of this list and its really nice. Threading works great and I was able to search the archive back to 1998. An on-line treasure trove. .. . and it may cut down on simplistic, redundant questions : ) kudos! Steve King -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CS colour change - HELP!
Charles- That would be my guess. Got a way of measuring your start current? I've been putting that part off but I think I understand now how important it is. My unit is supposed to give me a red light if the water is not within tolerances, but I realise that this isn't meant to be extremely accurate. So. . . I'll just slink off now into the web archives and read up on current measuring and limiting. I just did an archive search on the term -current- and it came up with 98 messages dating back to Nov 97. Great stuff and a historical perspective. I love this list! Steve King -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
RE: CSLyme disease
Hi, could someone please let me know the symptoms of Lyme disease - it looks like one of my colleagues might have said condition. Many thanks Yvonne -Original Message- From: M. G. Devour [mailto:mdev...@mail.id.net] Sent: Monday, September 20, 1999 3:11 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSLyme disease Amy Casca wrote: I have a friend here that we are very sure has Lyme disease. ... We are still seeking a Lyme Dr to work with us,but are having a very hard time finding one. We would like to start trying silver,if anyone out there has experience with Lyme and Collidial Silver. NANCY, MARSHA! To the RESCUE!! grin Hi Amy. We've got a number of folks who'll be glad to help you and your friend. There is no need to wait to take charge of your own health. I'll let the others fill you in on the details. Expect some conflicting opinions to sort through, but remember that the basics will *work*, and that the rest is just refinement of the basics. Welcome! Be well, Mike D. [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@mail.id.net ] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CS colour change - HELP!
Ivan, all- You have answered your own question ;-) thanx. but there is one thing I can't answer (er. . . at least one thing!). Why wouldn't single distilled water with post carbon filtering be good enough for making high quality CS? And related questions. . . Can you have very pure water but with too high conductivity for some reason? Is conductivity strictly a function of impurities in the water? Could I be ionizing or somehow charging the water with my distiller in a way that's not good? best, Steve King - Original Message - From: Steve King ssk...@nildram.co.uk To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, 21 September 1999 22:26 Subject: CS colour change - HELP! Dear group: Can anyone please tell me why my CS is turning PINK?!?! I'm using DC to about 20 PPM. When I first began making CS, the solution started clear and then turned yellow and stayed that way for weeks or more. Now the solution starts clear, turns yellow, and after a day or two, it turns pink. I'm also getting some sediment at the bottom of jar - where before there was none. I haven't changed the voltage or electrodes, but I have made a slight change to the water. Could water quality be causing the CS to age quickly? The water I'm using is good ole tap water, distilled once in a stainless steel distiller and post filtered with carbon. Not good enough? many thanx, Steve King -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CSRe: question
(The following is off-topic-nothing about silver- just a response) Dear Chuck and Vikii and Jhon, I did not express myself well and will attempt so now. That's the trouble with not being able to look someone in the eye while communicating. I've never felt bad or guilty for being white, nor do I think that anyone of any color should. I didn't elaborate, but the prejudice towards the white race I experienced lasted maybe 30 minutes and occured after I had been visiting with some Cherokee. I also had just watched a report about how store clerks respond to black customers as opposed to white and how differently black people applying for jobs are rated. A black young man had recently asked me if Jesus liked black people. That broke my heart to think that He had been presented in any other light. (but of course, most of the pictures of this Jew are with white skin and blue eyes) I thought that our friend in Malaysia would understand my statements without going into great detail. Yes, I could have mailed him direct,( I normally do when it's personal) but was hoping by putting it on the list to give others a chance to respond to his need. (He contributes a lot) I was also conscious of the people who don't like to wade through long things, so tried to shorten my story. The point to what I wrote was forgiveness and reconciliation, not shame and guilt. I, personally, am in the business of getting people free of all that. But certain things have to be recognized and dealt with before the freedom comes. One of the most powerful things I've seen was at a meeting where the speaker representing the white race repented of racial hatred. (he had none personally) Then a black man walked up spontaniously and did the same and the next thing I knew black, white, asian people (esp. men) were all over the room were hugging, weeping, repenting for their own hatred. Something broke in the spirit. I don't mind if you disagree with me about anything; I just was sorry that I wasted your valuable input to this list by an off- topic area over something we actual agree on. Hope this clarified and didn't add to division. Karen -- To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CSLyme disease
I think whether CS alone can cure Lyme depends on where it has gotten to. I believe that once it crosses the blood brain barrier, gets into the lymph systems, or gets into the joint cartiledge, CS has a hard time reaching it and the other parts of Beck's protocol really shine for getting into these hiding places. In the early stages I suspect that CS would work extremely well for a cure. I am convinced that is works very well as a preventative. I have been bitten by ticks 4 times this summer in an area which is reported to have a 60% Lyme infestation rate of the ticks. One of the bites showed the bulls eye of Lyme, but in each case I took about 4 oz of CS a couple of times a day for a few days and it progressed no further. Marshall Henry Reed wrote: Amy, Marsha H. says that cs and cs alone CURED her lyme. She will undoubtedly see your message and give you the whole story. Best Wishes. Charles King wrote: On Sun, 19 Sep 1999 22:25:57 -0700 (PDT), amyca...@webtv.net (Amy Casca) wrote: We would like to start trying silver,if anyone out there has experience with Lyme and Collidial Silver,your help would be GREATLY appreciated.. Sincerely Amy Casca Several on the list have the experience you're seeking, Amy. Lurk patiently. Chuck Time's sure fun when you're having flies!!! Kermit the Frog. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CSLyme disease
You can research much of Beck's work at: http://www.rarebooks.net/beck/beck.htm Marshall Amy Casca wrote: Can you please tell me where to find the archives?? Thank you soo much!! -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CS[Fwd: CS Problems]
Mr. Devour, Thank you for that kind and sensible reply. It put out some fires I think. M. G. Devour wrote: .. to let you know that using a lot of fancy words and mixing them up won't snow us.. Its obvious you are very educated,so treat us the same way. I am here with you all to learn and to share. I work to earn it. Maybe I am merely trying to be as good as you are but not better. There are many things under the sun to talk about, why use fancy words. It is not education you are talking about, you are talking about yourself. . Well, I'm glad you guys are fightin' 'cause I'm learning a LOT! Smile though I'd say one other thing to keep carefully in mind is the potential for language barrier issues. I'm not sure that English is Lew's first language, though he does very well with it. We are a globe-spanning community and it is a great thing for us monolingual folks that others make the effort to communicate with us. Thank you all. Mike D. [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@mail.id.net ] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
CSDW filtering
On Tuesday, September 21, 1999 3:20 PM, Amir Shoshan wrote:
Date: 21-Sep-1999 13:20:29 -0700
From: Amir Shoshan
To: m...@jazz {silver-l...@eskimo.com}
Subject: Re: CS colour change - HELP!
Steve,
Try distilling the water through a second time but remove the carbon
post filter on the second pass.
This should help alot as carbon fines in the water can substantially
increase the conductivity.
Amir
What about coconut shell filters? Would they pose the same problem?
Mike M.
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Re: CSRe: question
On Tue, 21 Sep 1999 11:22:57 +, M. G. Devour mdev...@mail.id.net wrote: To the extent we let people live free we honor the greatness -- and atone for the wickedness -- of past generations. In a nutshell And I strongly encourage us all, me included, to steer clear of much further discussion of political philosophy on the silver list, as seductive a temptation as it is. Drat. g Damn, he's good though! Chuck Consider that two wrongs never make a right, but that three lefts do. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
RE: CSRe: question
The purpose of the 'racial' problems is to divide and distract us. We must put all of that aside, and unite against the common enemy. During the construction of the great transcontinental railways of this continent, Blacks, Chinese, Irish and others lived and worked side-by-side, without great problems, until the Railroad Companies segregated them. In the South, at the time of the Civil War there were about 100 times as many indentured whites---who were essentially slaves---as there were slaves of African heritage. All of the history we have been force-fed, is jive. Look as who benefits, follow the money, read the unauthorized histories. George Bush's father, Prescott (sp?) helped finance the Nazis. Pull your head out and take a look around. Rant, blather, sputter, etc. James Osbourne Holmes a...@trail.com -Original Message- From: M. G. Devour [SMTP:mdev...@mail.id.net] Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 1999 5:23 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject:Re: CSRe: question Karen Croom wrote: I ... confessed that I thought I might be prejudiced. I was serious, but he started laughing. He knew that I was talking about the white race and we have white skin. Well, I got over that but I still feel like asking forgiveness from people of other races for all of the sins of the past. Chuck wrote: Isn't that something!!! Now your supposed to feel GUILTY just for being who you are. It troubles me most that we are tempted to throw out the *positive* lessons of history because of the failings of the people of the time. The founding principles of my nation -- personal responsibility, individual freedom, property rights, self-government -- were crafted by men and women who were entirely human, within a human culture that was seriously flawed. As a result, the biggest single change from Thomas Jefferson's original draft of the Declaration of Independence and the document finally approved by the Committee of the Whole, was the excision of his eloquent and powerful denunciation of the slave trade. And at the very time these principles brought greater freedom, opportunity, and prosperity to a wider range of people than ever before -- our nation engaged in systematic genocide against Native peoples. Always, the painful reality has lagged behind the promise of our shining principles, and it does so today. And in recent decades it seems our principles have lost considerable ground. But it was those principles that pushed us to achieve. We are still counted among the freest people on earth to the extent that we have held on to them. I firmly believe that the only thing we can do to right the injustice of the past is to prevent the injustice of the future. And the best way to do that remains, today as always, giving people alive today the fullest measure of their basic human birthright: freedom, liberty, property, sovereignty. To the extent we let people live free we honor the greatness -- and atone for the wickedness -- of past generations. And I strongly encourage us all, me included, to steer clear of much further discussion of political philosophy on the silver list, as seductive a temptation as it is. Drat. g Be well, Mike D. [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@mail.id.net ] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CSRe: question
On Tue, 21 Sep 1999 08:49:40 -0500, Daniel and Karen Croom je...@webchoice.net wrote: I don't mind if you disagree with me about anything; I just was sorry that I wasted your valuable input to this list by an off- topic area over something we actual agree on. Hope this clarified and didn't add to division. Karen I'm done!! Chuck I've got nothing to say and I'll only say it once! -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CS colour change - HELP!
On Tue, 21 Sep 1999 13:35:29 +0100, Steve King ssk...@nildram.co.uk wrote: Why wouldn't single distilled water with post carbon filtering be good enough for making high quality CS? Sometimes Good Enuf ain't good enough. Can you have very pure water but with too high conductivity for some reason? Is conductivity strictly a function of impurities in the water? Could I be ionizing or somehow charging the water with my distiller in a way that's not good? Have you had the water tested? May not be what you think! Chuck Make it idiot-proof and someone will make a better idiot. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CSRe: question
James Osbourne, Holmes wrote: The purpose of the 'racial' problems is to divide and distract us. We must put all of that aside, and unite against the common enemy. During the construction of the great transcontinental railways of this continent, Blacks, Chinese, Irish and others lived and worked side-by-side, without great problems, until the Railroad Companies segregated them. In the South, at the time of the Civil War there were about 100 times as many indentured whites---who were essentially slaves---as there were slaves of African heritage. All of the history we have been force-fed, is jive. Look as who benefits, follow the money, read the unauthorized histories. George Bush's father, Prescott (sp?) helped finance the Nazis. Pull your head out and take a look around. Rant, blather, sputter, etc. Bravo! Nothing deleted, Things that need to be known! Has someone else figured out the ultimate diagnostic tool to get real answers? I'm not sure what the correct name is, but I call it The Money Flow Diagram. And a fine rational rant it was, but watch this reality stuff, it conflicts with special interests and the official line :-(. I'm still composing mine and checking flack jacket and helment for servicability :-). -- Victoria Welch, WV9K, DoD#-13, Net/Sys/WebAdmin SeaStar.org, vikki.oz.net The revolution will not be televised - anon. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CSRe: question
Daniel and Karen Croom wrote:
(The following is off-topic-nothing about silver- just a response)
I'll apologise for the same thing since a response to this is, by
necessity, going to be long to communicate anything so it might be
understood and not taken for raw bigotry. It is anything but :).
Please read this through before you go off on me :-).
Dear Chuck and Vikii and Jhon,
I did not express myself well and will attempt so now. That's the
trouble with not being able to look someone in the eye while
communicating.
A definite problem in this media :-).
I've never felt bad or guilty for being white, nor do
I think that anyone of any color should.
On this we agree.
I didn't elaborate, but the
prejudice towards the white race I experienced lasted maybe 30 minutes
and occured after I had been visiting with some Cherokee.
I've spent some time with several native american groups. The following
statementd is represenative of my opinions of any group. There is the
problem with generalizations in that they are *generally* true. Sad
to
say. It is not those outstanding members of any ethnic group that cause
the fear and resentent of that group in general.
I also had
just watched a report about how store clerks respond to black
customers as opposed to white and how differently black people
applying for jobs are rated.
This is an unfortunate reality and it is, to me, a horror that this kind
of thing exists. The problem is that it exists *for a reason*. I do
not base my opinions here on governmental and crime statistics (although
they will back me up), but on my own personal experiences.
I spent many years in Atlanta (most recently Decatur (deep south)). I
*personally* have been dragged out of my car at a stop light by a
(drunk) black man, having an (unloaded at that time) 9mm pistol at that
point was all that kept things from getting potentially *really* ugly,
fortunately I
didn't have to use it. just having it was enough. My car was broken
into twice (witnesses said it was black youth, both times, but the were
never apprehended) and the dash ripped out to get my stereo (once in
driveway and once on street). My cars have been keyed (scratched with
something metal, probably a key) in front of my residence and in my
driveway on more than a few occasions (majority of that neighborhood was
black). My roomie was raped on the front porch by a black man. Involved
in a minor traffic fender bender with a black woman I was accused of
having slowed down so she would hit me because I was a racist. Less
than this has sent people with checkbook in hand begging to join the KKK
{name radical organization of choice here} and established them as
confirmed racist.
I could have gone that way, but the real truth of the matter is that
there is human sewage in all races. I don't hate blacks because of
this, but I *sure as hell am careful with blacks I do not know*. My
closest and dearest friend is a charming, wonderfully intelligent and
overall delightful black woman from Canada :-).
In several places where I have worked the black employees *in general*
WERE lazy, abusive, and several other unflattering descriptions. One
place we had a black guy who was the best welder I (or anyone there) had
ever seen - he could work miracles with a welder and was a really decent
person. The blacks that came in late (continually) if at all, took
severely extended breaks and lunches, got drunk and passed out in their
cars in the parking lot and who were generally OBNOXIOUS human beings
ended up pissing off most people in the company - not because they were,
necessarily, black, but because everyone had to work longer to make up
for the time they weren't on the job (long breaks and absents) and fix
sloppy substandard work (drunk or just not giving a damn). The sad part
of this story was that the resentment built because of the scum to where
it affected the welder. Eventually he quit to get away from the quota
blacks. A major loss to the company, who was now so torqued about the
whole black problem that they weren't as open to minorities as they
should have been. They had been burned by the loosers and *were* leary
of blacks specifically since 4 out of 5 were poor quality workers and of
course with the welder walking out. I mention this only because of
your statement about how backs are treated on job interviews. This
experience is apparently not uncommon from what I have heard, employers
*have* (or did at that time) to hire x% and after so much negative
experience such as the above that they experienced, they adopted the
generalization, because it was generally true in their experience.
It certainly is NOT right, but you can see how it gets there. The good
people always suffer because of the problem people. Individual
accountability is something that does come to mind here. What to do?
Education would seem to be an answer here, but not the way it works in
american schools...
A black young
Re: CSLyme disease
In a message dated 9/21/99 10:13:04 AM Central Daylight Time, mdud...@execonn.com writes: I think whether CS alone can cure Lyme depends on where it has gotten to. I believe that once it crosses the blood brain barrier, gets into the lymph systems, or gets into the joint cartiledge, CS has a hard time reaching it and the other parts of Beck's protocol really shine for getting into these hiding places. I am not a medical professional and have not done any tests to substantiate this but I as a lyme suffer no longer have joint aches nor the headaches I did before CS. I am not sure just what took it all away but I know mine was in the brain and joints bad. I couldn't even get off of Doxycycline for 3 days and not have the tremendous headaches come back and last for another 3 days after starting Doxycycline again. I still take the WaterOz Silver but I don't have a problem with headaches anymore and I have been off all prescribed antibiotics for almost 4 months now. The last of this month will mark the 4 month time period. I also don't have joint aches. Now if it doesn't penetrate the blood/brain area or the joints how can this be happening. Oh yes, I was not in the early stages. No way could being bitten in 1990 and having the classic bullseye rash and only getting 2 weeks of Doxycycline and then having the problems come back slowly and finally getting diagnosed as chronic lyme in 1997 be early lyme. Nope I wasn't bitten by another tick if so I wouldn't have gotten to the stages I was when diagnosed. Remember Oklahoma isn't suppose to have Lyme anyway. I got probably the only one in my part of the state. Lucky me. LOL Those of us who have lived with it and experienced it will all tell you that we feel silver does cross the blood/brain barrier and the joints. I for one am thrilled I am at the point I am now and feel silver was a step in the right direction. Plus I did not do Beck's protocal. Not saying its not good I just haven't done it and haven't felt a need. Janis -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CSLyme disease
Marshall; I would have to disagree with you on the blood/brain barrier issue. I had what was first diagnosed after an angiogram, as macular degeneration--I had a central blind spot in my right eye (I don't think you can get more into the nervous system than that) It eventually turned out to be an inflamation of the optic nerve caused by the LYME. I took the ABX on and off for two years, and never shook the LYME. After Marsha told me about the CS, and I took it for 6 months, I am symptom free for 15 months. I also had severe joint problems before I started the CS, which disappeared also. I'm thoroughly convinced that the CS is what cured me of the LYME and I continue to take it daily as a preventative as you suggest. Nick -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CSLyme disease
Marshall, On the other hand there are numerous members of the list, present and those that have moved on, that have totally ridden themselves of lyme with just the CS. With a few cases of this disease being pretty severe. Nick, Marsah, and Candace to mention a few. Nick was very bad, hospitalized at one point. I know of another girl that was in intensive care of MS while the family knew it was lyme. They starte her on CS and from what I hear from her brother she was out riding her bike last week. As for the CS crossing the barrier, once again I must say, I believe it does. I have had no brain fog and alot of my CNS symptoms are gone, and have not returned. Just my opinion, Donna -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CSLyme disease
Great if it takes care of it. If not totally successful, then give the 4 step process a try. The ONLY experience I have with a person with bad lymes required the 4 step protocol. Perhaps she was not taking as big a dosage as the others, or her immune system was down, or she had a tougher strain of Lyme. CS took care of 90% of her problems, but the other 3 steps took care of it all. Marshall donna2...@aol.com wrote: Marshall, On the other hand there are numerous members of the list, present and those that have moved on, that have totally ridden themselves of lyme with just the CS. With a few cases of this disease being pretty severe. Nick, Marsah, and Candace to mention a few. Nick was very bad, hospitalized at one point. I know of another girl that was in intensive care of MS while the family knew it was lyme. They starte her on CS and from what I hear from her brother she was out riding her bike last week. As for the CS crossing the barrier, once again I must say, I believe it does. I have had no brain fog and alot of my CNS symptoms are gone, and have not returned. Just my opinion, Donna -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CSLyme disease
I believe you are speaking of the Beck blood electrofication, or Clark's zapper. It appears that in the case of Beck's unit that you do have to avoid anything toxic when you use it, especially garlic (if you happen to be in the minority that this is a problem). Clark's zapper does not seem to have this constraint, but since it only affects 10% or so of the people I can't say for sure. Clark does not warn about it, and I have never heard of a problem with toxins and her zapper, but have with toxins and Beck's unit. Marshall donna2...@aol.com wrote: Marshall, I have a blood purifier here, someone made me one, I don't know how to use it. I had heard that you have to avoid certain foods while using it along with the use of nicotene. Do you know if this is true. Donna -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CSLyme disease
Marshall, I have a blood purifier here, someone made me one, I don't know how to use it. I had heard that you have to avoid certain foods while using it along with the use of nicotene. Do you know if this is true. Donna -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
CSANNOUNCING: Silver List Archives!
Hello all you silver listians! As many of you have already figured out, last night I received notice that our archive is fully set up. Point your browser to: http://escribe.com/ ... and select the Health and Medicine category. Scroll down a bit and there we are! The direct route would be: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html The chat and bulletin board are disabled right now, until such time as I think they'll be of service to our members. Let us know how you like it! Talk about a lotta smarts all gathered in a small spot! Be well, Mike D. [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@mail.id.net ] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CSLyme disease
Marshall, Where can I find Becks homepage? All I come up with is Clarkes. I am going to look into this device that I have here. This one seems to have two cuffs that go on your wrist and it runs with 9 volt batteries. Donna -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CSLyme disease
Go to http://hotbot.com and type in Bob Beck for the search string. He has no site himself but quite a few about him will pop up. The 2nd and the 3rd entries are the ones I just sent to this list earlier today. There are more further down. Marshall donna2...@aol.com wrote: Marshall, Where can I find Becks homepage? All I come up with is Clarkes. I am going to look into this device that I have here. This one seems to have two cuffs that go on your wrist and it runs with 9 volt batteries. Donna -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CSLyme disease
On Tue, 21 Sep 1999 14:34:38 EDT, donna2...@aol.com wrote: Marshall, Where can I find Becks homepage? All I come up with is Clarkes. I am going to look into this device that I have here. This one seems to have two cuffs that go on your wrist and it runs with 9 volt batteries. Donna Here's a site with a lot of Beck info: http://www.rarebooks.net/beck/ Chuck Be careful when you're playing under an anvil tree -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CS colour change - HELP!
Have you had the water tested? May not be what you think! Chuck Good point. I think I am going to fall back to store-bought purified BP water, which seems to give my CS a longer shelf life, at least until I can test my home made DW. thanx! -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CS colour change - HELP!
Steve, Try distilling the water through a second time but remove the carbon post filter on the second pass. This should help alot as carbon fines in the water can substantially increase the conductivity. Amir -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CSANNOUNCING: Silver List Archives!
Pam Whitmire wrote: I love it, love it, love it! Now I can.uh..er(whispering) get off the list? :-) I *KNEW IT*!!! Give'em what they want and what do you get??? melodramatic pause... A bunch of satisfied customers... sheepish grin One condition, Pam! Y'all come back and update us on your experience and successes, 'kay? Be good and be well, Mike D. [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@mail.id.net ] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CSLyme disease
Donna, what type blood purifier is it? From whom did you get it? I got a zapper from Don Croft(someone on the silver list mentioned him in a posting) and after only 2 wks. or so-- no naps needed in the afternoon. Wh! donna2...@aol.com wrote: Marshall, I have a blood purifier here, someone made me one, I don't know how to use it. I had heard that you have to avoid certain foods while using it along with the use of nicotene. Do you know if this is true. Donna -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CSLyme disease
i've got a blood purifier it's from SOTA and it's by beck's specifications it's the one where you stick electrodes on your vanes you should indeed not use a heartpacer, be pregnant, be on medicinal herbs, potentially toxic medication, nicotine, alcohol, drugs, laxatives, tonics, GARLIC, potentially toxic vitamins and due to electroporation, that makes bloodcells 30x more sensitive to the above mt At 23:15 21-09-1999 , you wrote: Donna, what type blood purifier is it? From whom did you get it? I got a zapper from Don Croft(someone on the silver list mentioned him in a posting) and after only 2 wks. or so-- no naps needed in the afternoon. Wh! donna2...@aol.com wrote: Marshall, I have a blood purifier here, someone made me one, I don't know how to use it. I had heard that you have to avoid certain foods while using it along with the use of nicotene. Do you know if this is true. Donna -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CSLyme disease
I don't know, it was built for me by someone that was on the list a long time ago. Howm uch did you pay for yours? Are there any restrictions to diet or anything with the one you have? How about nicotene? Donna -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CSRe: question
Thank you Vikki,,well spoken,, and true.. - Original Message - From: Victoria Welch vi...@oz.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 1999 1:11 PM Subject: Re: CSRe: question Daniel and Karen Croom wrote: (The following is off-topic-nothing about silver- just a response) snip..etc.. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
CShealth device claims
PUT TO COURT TEST CONSUMER WATCHDOG TAKES ACTION OVER HEALTH DEVICE CLAIMS written by Sott Rucker A Port Stephens inventor is facing court in an Australian Competition and Consumer Commission action against the alleged false promotion of health products. Darryl John Jones has been taken to the Federal Court in relation to alleged breaches of sections 52 and 53 of the Trades Practices Act. Among the companies health devices are Colloidal Silver makers,which are marketed as producing 'sub-micron, ultra-fine colloidal silver' that allegedly kills all disease causing bacteria, fungi and viruses within six minutes of contact. The Vital Earth company product has been advertised as killing more than 650 disease organisms including, in less than a minute( I think this is the writers mistake) anthrax, tuberculosis, shingles etc. According to advertisements, colloidal silver can be used as an antibiotic for all the acquired diseases of active AIDS, has no side effects from regular use and has been used successfully against diabetes, leprosy, lupus, skin cancer,and syphilis. The Commission is tackling Colin Ronald Dixon For allegedly making false representations about Vital Earth products on the Internet. It has also challenged another company, Raylight Pty Ltd. In the Federal Court yesterday, Justice Antony Whitlam adjourned the commission's action against Raylight until Tuesday. Justice Whitlam produced short minutes of an order against Mr.Dixon. The 'orders of consent' said it had been found Mr. Dixon had engaged in misleading or deceptive conduct and had falsely promoted the alleged benefits of Vital Silver 2000 and the Vital Silver 3000 Zapper.. A further directions hearing against Vital Earth has been scheduled for November 23 1999 (end of article) This is the first case of this kind in Australia, as you can see the 'screw' is about to be twisted if anyone out there can help these people with proof as we all know it would help fight the good fight. In my 71 years of life I have seen this beautiful word being slowly destroyed, and I weep for all the younger people that are coming into this corrupt and manipulated world. have a healthy day Keith Courtenay - Original Message - From: Daniel and Karen Croom To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, September 20, 1999 11:45 PM Subject: Re: CSFw: CSsilver mahine Keith, I haven't read a post from you since Sept. 15. The Science Digest article got on the list yesterday and one was sent to you directly today. If for some reason you didn't get it then send an address. It takes two weeks in the mail. Tell me the nature of the court case and I may have other cs information that would help. Thanks, Karen -- From: Keith Courtenay csil...@coastnet.net.au To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSFw: CSsilver mahine Date: Tuesday, September 14, 1999 10:55 PM could you please send this message on as I am having som difficulty with the instructions. thanks in advance keith - Original Message - From: Keith Courtenay mailto:csil...@coastnet.net.au Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 1999 1:36 PM Subject: Re: CSsilver mahine G,day daniel karen, I have tried to send you e-mail on your je...@webchoice but its like the australian boomrang it keeps on coming back. so I am going to try this one. I would appreiate you sending me ay of the article, for my mate he has to go back to court in early October, let me know how I can repay you for his favour, I am unable to send real kangaroo's by e-mail keep happy and have a healthy day. keith. - Original Message - From: Daniel and Karen Croom mailto:je...@webchoice.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, September 04, 1999 5:33 AM Subject: Re: CSsilver mahine Keith, Sorry it took so long. I finally got to the library and copied the Science Digest article Our Mightiest Germ Fighter and would be glad to send it to you if you still need it. Send your address and if you e-mail me direct make sure the name jesus appears before @webchoice.net (it doesn't on some people's server). About the article- since it's one of the most quoted, I wonder how many have read it? A person named Jim Powell wrote it and only quotes Dr. Margraf. His actual findings (not on colloidal silver, but on silver compounds) are said to be in Archives of Surgery published by the AMA. In the article, it says that Japanese firms used it to purify air! Hadn't heard that before. Also, that 50 gal of raw sewage when flushed through silver electrodes was completely free of E. coli within three hours. Karen -- From: Deborah Sais debo...@swpc.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSsilver mahine Date: Monday, August 30, 1999 8:27 PM Dear Keith, I've sent you a few posts that I kept on file. If you would like any more information, just let me
Re: CSANNOUNCING: Silver List Archives!
I love it, love it, love it! Now I can.uh..er(whispering) get off the list? :-) Really, I love the list too, but a lurker like me is better off with a searchable archive than a 50 email a day (or more) load. Thanks to all of you lovely and wonderful people who have made my life a better and healthier one with your generous info and research. I'll be reading you! Pam -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CSIt's Time for a newsgroup..
Go for it, Tim. Make it, use it, share it, teach it. Sam mailto:sear...@ix.netcom.com Monday, September 20, 1999, 8:23:49 PM, you wrote: TC Hello Silver List Folks - TC This is list is just too much to sort through. TC A newsgroup is needed. TC There is too much good information on silver solutions lost in the spew. TC Think of the manhours wasted sorting through.. TC More often than not, replies to the thread in this list, have nothing to do TC with the thread! TC With a newsgroup, you would have the ability to subscribe to the group; get TC the TC message headers, then open only the ones you were interested in, instead of TC having TC your mailbox filled with junk that you have to delete individually, ( not TC wanting to miss anything good). TC Actually, two newsgroups would be better. TC alt.silver could contain basic information in the form FAQs, as well as TC general requests TC for information and comments. TC alt.binaries.silver could contain diagrams, pdf files, pictures, price TC lists... whatever. TC Currently, ( at least on my news server ) there are no newsgroups using the TC term silver. TC The silver list is growing, because silver works. TC Soon, the silver list will become unmanageable. TC I believe in it, use it, make it, don't sell it.. TC Let's get a newsgroup. TC -- TC The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. TC To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: TC silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com TC with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. TC To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com TC List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CSANNOUNCING: Silver List Archives!
Mike, Is this archive protected from the general public and the FDA, etc., per your earlier caution regarding newsgroups? The FDA can take anything you say about silver and make it your label thus disqualifying you from selling anything silver-related. This could be a major setback for some on the list. Make it, use it, share it, teach it. Sam mailto:sear...@ix.netcom.com Tuesday, September 21, 1999, 2:10:05 PM, you wrote: MGD Hello all you silver listians! MGD As many of you have already figured out, last night I received notice MGD that our archive is fully set up. MGD Point your browser to: MGD http://escribe.com/ MGD ... and select the Health and Medicine category. Scroll down a bit MGD and there we are! MGD The direct route would be: MGD http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html MGD The chat and bulletin board are disabled right now, until such time MGD as I think they'll be of service to our members. MGD Let us know how you like it! Talk about a lotta smarts all gathered MGD in a small spot! MGD Be well, MGD Mike D. MGD [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] MGD [mdev...@mail.id.net ] MGD [Speaking only for myself... ] MGD -- MGD The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. MGD To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: MGD silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com MGD with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. MGD To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com MGD List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CSElectrode assembly -- questions
September 21, 1999 Hi Mike, (Great job with the archive project! Wow!) In your recent post you said that you are now using a 12 gauge silver wire for your generator electrodes, with 2 spacing, 3.5 long. Did you previously use a thinner or thicker wire? What I am getting at is this --- have you experimented with more than one thickness of wire and noticed a difference in generator performance attributable to simply a change of wire/electrode thickness or electrode surface area? A difference such as particle size? A difference in the TE? A difference in sludge amount? A difference in buildup on the electrodes? A difference in running time? A difference in the color of the CS? I would like to ask these same questions of all the silver generator users. -- Spiroflex
Re: CSANNOUNCING: Silver List Archives!
Congratulations Mike...AND, heartfelt thanks for getting the archive up running!! Bless you - Rob - Original Message - From: M. G. Devour mdev...@mail.id.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: 22 September 1999 4:10 AM Subject: CSANNOUNCING: Silver List Archives! Hello all you silver listians! As many of you have already figured out, last night I received notice that our archive is fully set up. Point your browser to: http://escribe.com/ ... and select the Health and Medicine category. Scroll down a bit and there we are! The direct route would be: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html The chat and bulletin board are disabled right now, until such time as I think they'll be of service to our members. Let us know how you like it! Talk about a lotta smarts all gathered in a small spot! Be well, Mike D. [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@mail.id.net ] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
CSCarbon Dioxide / Lew
Lew, I have just returned from a trip and happily stumbled across your post. It looks like there were more...I will look. Here (below) you write about carbon dioxide. Are you familiar with Buteyko breathing? It is a technique of holding the breath to treat asthma. Excellent results. In addition, it seems that carbon dioxide is what actually releases oxygen into the tissues. The Buteyko websites have very good scientific data on this. ~^^V^^~ ~ I practise Pranayama by closing my nostrile with index finger and thumb alternately first my right ,breathing out slowly through the left and then the left and breathing slowly through the right nostrile, 10 times daily. One physio-biochemical rationale of this practice is to acclimatise the brain to an optimum level of Carbon dioxide saturation to maintain patency of the respiratoy tract. The principle of making patients with wheezing cough breathe through a punctured paper bag and coughing through the nose,was not known to me till lately. This is done mainly to conserve and to rebreathe the carbon dixide which restores the normal functions of the respiratory tract in obstructive airway disorders as in Asthma ,bronchitis and the like. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
