Re: CS*** CSGout/alkalife?

1999-12-27 Thread Ivan Anderson
Deb,

I have no idea why this would occur. There is nothing in Alkalife
other than potassium and sodium, both essential minerals, and a
surplus of hydroxyl ions.

Two drops of the alkaline booster furnish about 50 mg of potassium
(daily requirement 1000 mg) and 98 mg of sodium (3000 mg).

The hydroxyl ions add to the over-all body alkalinity.

Were you or are you on a strict no salt diet?

I certainly have no reaction at all on taking these drops, nor have I
heard of one.

Ivan.

- Original Message -
From: Debbie McDonald lullw...@flash.net
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Monday, 27 December 1999 06:26
Subject: CS*** CSGout/alkalife?


 Ivan Anderson wrote:

  Eating fruit, as Robert said, will help because of the potassium
it
  contains, but probably the best way to alleviate gout is to drink
  alkaline water. That is, water supplemented with alkaline drops,
such
  as Alkalife  www.alkalife.com . These drops contain a diluted
mixture
  potassium hydroxide and sodium hydroxide in the appropriate ratio,
the
  extra water will also help.

 When I tried these drops they made my heart RACE. It was scarey,
since
 I am deficient in minerals and especially mag/pot, what do you think
 is going on??  Deb



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Re: CSDowsing????

1999-12-27 Thread tgw0
Remember the good book was written and revised by men and therefore
subject to their interpatations. Trust your own institutions they come
from the universe and you will find they are correct.

Ted


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Re: CSanthrax/terrorist [OT]

1999-12-27 Thread tgw0
For those who are wondering how effective CS can be against virus, read
Dr. Len Horowitz Emerging Viruses. If he is correct in his statements
about Aids, Ebola and Vaccinations, you will soon get your chance to
find out.

Ted

Marshall Dudley wrote:
 
 Quite possibly, but it is my understanding that CS is effective.
 
 Marshall
 
 Nutritional Intelligence Cooperative of North America wrote:
 
  ? ?Has anyone heard anything more about the anthrax threat.? Someone
  claiming to be an undercover intelligence operative posted warnings
  about a terrorist plot to hit the major population centers with
  infectious biohazards.? I was wondering if anyone has more
  information.? I can not remember if it was this list or the silver
  list.? Since we are approaching the New Year, I would appreciate any
  information that would enable me to protect my family, friends, and
  neighbors.?Does anyone know whether the zappers (Hulda Clark
  frequencies) would be useful for immuno defense against
  anthrax??thanks,,?JD??ps.? if anyone wants to write me personally
  for security reasons, I will maintain confidence.??
 
 ?


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CSNew Scars On Face//Lew///Silica

1999-12-27 Thread Vilik Rapheles
Lew,

Concerning homeopathic silica...

Do you suggest 6x or a higher potency?

~^^V^^~



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Re: CSDowsing????

1999-12-27 Thread Vilik Rapheles


The patient has to be comfortable with the treatment. Period. Doesn't
matter if it makes sense to someone else if it doesn't fit the person
being treated. Same thing with diet. Same thing with everything. If it
doesn't feel good and right to the person being treated, it can't work.
The body and mind and spirit have to be open...to allow healing...and
that is an INDIVIDUAL experience, what each person is able and willing 
to be open to.

Fortunately there are many paths to healing, so that each person may
find the one that is right for them


~^^V^^~






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Re: CSDowsing????

1999-12-27 Thread Jason R. Eaton
It is a sad day indeed to hear such comments...  It's like saying that moon 
pulling the water in one's body is an evil influence.

People have been burned at the stake for far less than using something like 
colloidal silver, all in the name of some type of righteousness or another.  
How many people who like to point out sin even know what the word means, or 
where it comes from?  Not many.  If any.

Colloidal silver and dowsing have one thing in common; they both operate off of 
natural principles, which Creator Prime designed.  And who can speak for 
another's motive, be it in the use of dowsing, colloidal silver, or religious 
politics?

I personally do not dowse, though I have nothing against it, and I do believe 
in Divine Providence.

King Solomon wisely pointed out that one would be well advised not to contempt 
prior to investigation...  I'd take it one step futher, being, without PERSONAL 
investigation.  That means getting or making colloidal silver and testing it 
for oneself as apposed to reading some others' report.  It also means picking 
up the traditional dowsing rod oneself.  If one is not willing to do this, then 
the one I'd call an evil influence is the accuser - the one whom not only 
contempts prior to investigation, but whom also condemns.  I believe that 
Yeshua said 'Though they spoke in my name, I never knew them.'  paraphrased  
regarding such types.

It is the doctor whom refuses to tell a mother to take her child off of 
Aspartame products because the AMA told him to do so.

It is the so-called scientist whom claims colloidal silver does not work at all 
because it offends his ego or pascifies a need to belong.

If it does not proclaim:  Live free!  Live boldly!  Think for yourself!  Fail 
often and love your learning! - Then, as it is pointed out so eloquently in 
Corinthians I-13, it IS NOTHING.


  - Original Message - 
  From: Nicole Fraser 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Sunday, December 26, 1999 5:54 PM
  Subject: Re: CSDowsing




  Dennis Lipter dlip...@accesshub.net wrote:


I think you are asking the wrong question. You should be asking does it
work? Not how does it work?

Dennis Lipter

LOL Well, if there are things involved that I don't want to be a part of 
and are sinful to God.. I think then it is best to stay away from it..;0) If 
GOD is not the one involved in the healing then I would rather be sick. I am 
sure others may disagree? especially those who do not believe in God right? ;0/ 
But I am sure most of those who do agree with me...I don't know your beliefs so 
it may sound childish to you, but to me it is far from that...

Nicole:O)



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Re: CSDowsing????

1999-12-27 Thread CKing001
Excellent, Jason,
DAMN, I love this list!
Chuck
Lead me not into temptation. I can find my own way, thankyouverymuch!

On Mon, 27 Dec 1999 01:38:38 -0700, Jason R. Eaton eatonja...@hotmail.com
wrote:

King Solomon wisely pointed out that one would be well advised not to contempt 
prior to investigation...  I'd take it one step futher, being, without 
PERSONAL investigation.  That means getting or making colloidal silver and 
testing it for oneself as apposed to reading some others' report.  It also 
means picking up the traditional dowsing rod oneself.  If one is not willing 
to do this, then the one I'd call an evil influence is the accuser - the one 
whom not only contempts prior to investigation, but whom also condemns.  I 
believe that Yeshua said 'Though they spoke in my name, I never knew them.'  
paraphrased  regarding such types.


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Re: CSNew Scars On Face//Lew///Silica

1999-12-27 Thread fhlew
 I rather 1 dose 30x stat ; To be repeated after one month. If  your

your educated  provocation proved to be correct, probably you will find the
sharp aspect of the foreign body  surfacing. You could literally palpate the

spicule sticking out of the cicatrized matrix. Then, be prepared for the
barrage
of insolence - from the patient. Take it from the horse's mouth : it is not
a
very desirable experience.

  With regards
  Lew



Vilik Rapheles wrote:

 Lew,

 Concerning homeopathic silica...

 Do you suggest 6x or a higher potency?

 ~^^V^^~

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CSDowsing - definition - thanks

1999-12-27 Thread DeathBH
In defense of both Chuck  Nicole  the person who answered the definition:

Chuck:
I understood from the first question where Nicole was coming from; I come 
from 400 years of Baptist ministers - literally - the first one being the 
first governor of South Carolina; Jerry Falwell pales in comparison to the 
conservativeness of my family.  BUT on the other hand, I have been the only 
member of the family to explore other denonimations/thought 
processes/religions - whatever.  I have even  dated 5 Atheists, which for a 
Christian is very unusual. . . .  But my point here is - yes there is alot of 
ignorance hidden behind religion AND has been for thousands of years. . .  If 
you don't come from mine or Nicole's background it would be hard for you to 
understand her concern - I did  share it.

My parents although ULTRA religious took me to a witch doctor that was 
famous in Georgia (she was written up in the Atlanta Journal here right 
around the time she died) to save my life when I was 3 months old. .. .  .  
she did.   Point being everything is relative. . .  my grandmother would be 
consider dowsing evil, you don't . . . 

hmm be nice now gang:
If you can't play nice, don't play.
Jeannine 


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Re: CSDowsing - definition - thanks

1999-12-27 Thread CKing001
On Mon, 27 Dec 1999 06:25:07 EST, deat...@aol.com wrote:

 Point being everything is relative. . .  my grandmother would be 
consider dowsing evil, you don't . . . 

Nah,
Point is, energy, like money, is neither good or evil.
 It merely is!
Its' use, however, is your choice. That's what you're here to learn.
(In my opinion)
I'm always nice, to some degree..
Chuck

Try to be the kind of person your dog thinks you are
- Anonymous 


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Re: CSDowsing????

1999-12-27 Thread M. G. Devour
Generally excellent discussion, here, even though we try to stay pretty
strictly away from religious discussions. Everyone has remained civil. I
applaud that. And I agree that the treatment has to be right for the
person, so the discussion was not altogether out of place.

We should wind it down while we're doing so well, yes?

Be well,

Mike D.
silver-list owner

[Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian]
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Re: CSFW: The man who regrew a hand. (Actually the tip of one finger) darn.

1999-12-27 Thread tgw0
You may also wish to check out the work of Dr. John R. Christopher, who
wrote the book School of Natural Healing.

Ted

James Allison wrote:
 
 Actually, I have a copy of the pictures of the finger of which you type, and
 they will be posted on my website within a week.  I am going to be a
 distributor for the company that manufactures the bandages which promoted
 the healing.  It's pretty awesome stuff!  The bandages that were used are
 called SILVERLON and they are made for a company called Argentum
 Research, Inc. which is located in Lakemont, GA.  The inventor is Dr. A.B.
 Flick M.D. and the contact for the bandages is Roger Sayles and last but not
 least, their website is at http://www.silverlon.com
 
 My main question is not of the miraculous healing, but of why the FDA has
 approved the SILVERLON bandages, which work because they are 99% pure silver
 and 1% silver oxide and yet the FDA supports the bashing of silver in it's
 colloidal form.
 
 On a side note, thank goodness we're finely getting back on topic.
 
 Yours in health,
 James Allison
 
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CS MSM?

1999-12-27 Thread GB Rogers
What does MSM stand for?  I've seen it referred to quite a bit.  TIA

Beth

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Date: Sun, Dec 26, 1999, 1:35 AM


 MSM mixed with CS, colostrum, and aloe are ingredients i have of greater
 benefit than vitamin E.


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Re: CS MSM?

1999-12-27 Thread GB Rogers
Thank you Chuck!

Beth

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What does MSM stand for?  I've seen it referred to quite a bit.  TIA

 This will get you up to speed:
  http://www.dancingwolf-inc.com/nutrisignif.html

 The new wonder supplement of the millenium
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Re: CS*** CSGout/alkalife?

1999-12-27 Thread Debbie McDonald
Ivan Anderson wrote:
 
 Deb,
 
 I have no idea why this would occur. There is nothing in Alkalife
 other than potassium and sodium, both essential minerals, and a
 surplus of hydroxyl ions.
 
 Two drops of the alkaline booster furnish about 50 mg of potassium
 (daily requirement 1000 mg) and 98 mg of sodium (3000 mg).
 
 The hydroxyl ions add to the over-all body alkalinity.
 
 Were you or are you on a strict no salt diet?

No salt restriction, in fact, I tested LOW on salt, doc said he had
never seen anyone that was deficient in salt:). I am a freak. I have
trouble treating my problems as I react to some things. Example, amino
acids taken as supplements tend to give me a reaction like a very
nasty adrenaline surge, that goes one for too long  Deb


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Re: CSanthrax/terrorist [OT]

1999-12-27 Thread Marshall Dudley
Quite possibly, but it is my understanding that CS is effective.

Marshall

Nutritional Intelligence Cooperative of North America wrote:

Has anyone heard anything more about the anthrax threat.  Someone
 claiming to be an undercover intelligence operative posted warnings
 about a terrorist plot to hit the major population centers with
 infectious biohazards.  I was wondering if anyone has more
 information.  I can not remember if it was this list or the silver
 list.  Since we are approaching the New Year, I would appreciate any
 information that would enable me to protect my family, friends, and
 neighbors. Does anyone know whether the zappers (Hulda Clark
 frequencies) would be useful for immuno defense against
 anthrax? thanks,, JD  ps.  if anyone wants to write me personally for
 security reasons, I will maintain confidence.




Re: CSNew Scars On Face

1999-12-27 Thread Marshall Dudley
Aloe vera gel with CS.  Don't forget to mix in the CS, very important.  The Aloe
Vera supplies nutrients to the tissue while blood is cut off so it doesn't die 
and
has a number of healing agents in it.  The CS prevents infection, and allows 
injured
cells to revert back to juvinile cells so that they can form the proper cells,
thereby eliminating scar tissue.  There is much synergy between the two so that 
the
whole is greater than the sum of the parts.

Marshall

June Narber Harrison wrote:

 Hi.
 I would suggest using pure aloe vera gel now; and once it has started to heal,
 alternate between
 this aloe vera and a high i.u of Vitamin e oil.
 June

 2001 TV VCR wrote:

  I had an accident last night and have
  some bad cuts on my face.  I would
  like to find something that will prevent
  any scars from forming.
 
  Thank you,
 
  Bret
 
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CSRe: Potassium Iodine

1999-12-27 Thread Nancy Steele
Thanks to all for the confirmation that making your own Potassium Iodine is a 
bad idea.  To explain just a little.  It came from an article that I had 
thought was good because I thought I knew who the author was.  I hadn't looked 
into it a lot since I was so busy with other research.  My origional thought 
was that it would be good for many people who wouldn't get ready for an 
emergency beforhand since we live in a very rural farming type community.  
Anyway I could have made a very bad mistake that would have been hard to live 
with by giving them bad advice and I just want you all to know that I'm 
grateful for your input.  Thanks Nancy


Re: CSNew Scars On Face

1999-12-27 Thread Marshall Dudley
Silver causes injured cells to revert back to stem cells, which can then become
anything they need to be.  If you have a gaping wound then it will fill with
blood, which if you have silver ions available will convert to juvinile or stem
cells, which then become whatever you need to heal totally and completely
without scaring.  I know of one case in which an entire hand was regrown using
silver ions, and it ended up completely functional and except for missing all
the scars and blemishes that were on it before it was cut off, identical to the
old hand.  Theoratically the hand will be young, so it is possible that when the
person is very old, that regrown hand will still look like it is a young
adult's.

Unfortunately scar tissue will not rejuvinate.  I have read that to remove a
scar, it has to be physically removed, then the silver ions applied to the
wound, and it will then heal without scar tissue.

Marshall

Marshall

cking...@nycap.rr.com wrote:

 On Sun, 26 Dec 1999 16:04:53 -0600, Nutritional Intelligence Cooperative of
 North America jdkl...@netzero.net wrote:

 a piece of silver would work better.  i have seen dramatic pictures of
 silver cloth bandages on a forehead trauma.  Silver speeds up the healing
 and reduces scarring.
 
 jd

 Yow,
 Now we're back on topic!
 How'd that happen?
 Chuck
 Frisbeetarianism is the belief that when you die, your soul goes up on the
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Re: CSDowsing????

1999-12-27 Thread Marshall Dudley
If something is good and has no strings attached, then you should be
able to assume it is from God.  If there are strings attached then be
careful.

Pray for healing and it occurs:  God.
Ask for healing and it occurs:  God
Have someone lay on hand and get healed: God
Use a rod to overcome your 5 senses and ask what to do to be healed and
get good answers: God

Ask a person (whether a psychic, priest, or entity) to be healed, and
they demand that you do something, such as take an oath, make a
uncomfortable affirmation, join an organization, sell your soul or
something: be very very wary.  Likely this is not of God (except in the
broad sense that God is everything).  It is likely from a separation
from God (devil or otherwise).

Marshall

Nicole Fraser wrote:



 Dennis Lipter dlip...@accesshub.net wrote:

  I think you are asking the wrong question. You should be
  asking does it
  work? Not how does it work?

  Dennis Lipter

  LOL Well, if there are things involved that I don't want to
  be a part of and are sinful to God.. I think then it is best
  to stay away from it..;0) If GOD is not the one involved in
  the healing then I would rather be sick. I am sure others
  may disagree? especially those who do not believe in God
  right? ;0/ But I am sure most of those who do agree with
  me...I don't know your beliefs so it may sound childish to
  you, but to me it is far from that...

  Nicole:O)

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Re: CSDowsing????

1999-12-27 Thread Marshall Dudley
Odessa Lewis wrote:

 Nicole,
 All healings comes from God. There is not
 such as God that wants you to be sick, this
 is a concept in the mind of man. If would be
 so that we would have a very small and limi-
 ted God.

The inverse is that sickness is from sin, which I have heard before.  I feel
that is partly true, but also I beleive that it is often from a persons
distorted reality and belief system.  For instance, I got exposed to a cold
so now I will catch it (ok says the body), or my mother died from a heart
attack so I will also (ok says the body).  Also many diseases appear to
have been created by man (ie. AIDS), which would certainly be a sin of
giganic proportions, so saying that all sickness is from sin, does not
necessarily mean that it is from the sin of the person who got it. I believe
it simply means that if the world was without sin, then we would have no
disease.

Marshall


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Re: CSGout

1999-12-27 Thread Marshall Dudley
I have been reading the book biological transmtations.  I had no idea that
there was so much proof that life can so easily convert elements to other
elements.  It turns out that the body converts sodium to potassium when you
are getting into hyperthermia, so maybe there is a biological basis to a sweat
lodge after all other than sweating out the toxins.

Marshall

D G wrote:

 yes it is
 h

 Dennis

   

 Subject: RE: CSGout
 Resent-Date: Sun, 26 Dec 1999 18:55:20 -0800
 Resent-From: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Date: Sun, 26 Dec 1999 19:18:06 -0800
 From: Vilik Rapheles vi...@peak.org
 Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 References: 001c01bf4f94$10054c40$13a93...@ivan

 At 08:01 PM 12/26/99 -0500, you wrote:
 I am continually amazed at this list. Every cure must be purchased. Like
 nutrition cures nothing, but a supplement can and will cure anything.
 It's a wonder we lived long enough to populate the earth without
 supplements.
 
 
 Robert
 ~~
 Ah com'on Robert...this is the list where people make silver!

 Nutrition...high potassium foods include black strap molasses, potatoes,
 tomato or V8 juice, bananas

 http://www.Krispin.com/index.htp

 Good info on potassium and potassium rich foods. [note: the body cannot
 hold onto or utilize potassium without magnesium]

 There is a herbal supplement on the net specific to gout...search
 for it...(don't have info any more...)

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Re: CSNew Scars On Face

1999-12-27 Thread D G
regrew a hand?
whenwherehow?
documented?

Dennis

---BeginMessage---
Silver causes injured cells to revert back to stem cells, which can then become
anything they need to be.  If you have a gaping wound then it will fill with
blood, which if you have silver ions available will convert to juvinile or stem
cells, which then become whatever you need to heal totally and completely
without scaring.  I know of one case in which an entire hand was regrown using
silver ions, and it ended up completely functional and except for missing all
the scars and blemishes that were on it before it was cut off, identical to the
old hand.  Theoratically the hand will be young, so it is possible that when the
person is very old, that regrown hand will still look like it is a young
adult's.

Unfortunately scar tissue will not rejuvinate.  I have read that to remove a
scar, it has to be physically removed, then the silver ions applied to the
wound, and it will then heal without scar tissue.

Marshall

Marshall

cking...@nycap.rr.com wrote:

 On Sun, 26 Dec 1999 16:04:53 -0600, Nutritional Intelligence Cooperative of
 North America jdkl...@netzero.net wrote:

 a piece of silver would work better.  i have seen dramatic pictures of
 silver cloth bandages on a forehead trauma.  Silver speeds up the healing
 and reduces scarring.
 
 jd

 Yow,
 Now we're back on topic!
 How'd that happen?
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Re: CSDowsing????

1999-12-27 Thread Nicole Fraser

I believe it simply means that if the world was without sin, then we would have 
no disease.

I am sorry, I am not sure if you are agreeing or disagreeing with that 
statement? but I would have to agree with that completely! :0)

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Re: CSNew Scars On Face

1999-12-27 Thread Marshall Dudley
Write to matth...@ispchannel.com (Matt Scudiere).  He knows the researcher who 
was involved in this
research.  Unfortunately the man cut the other hand off within a year.  Not 
sure what his problem
was.  Maybe he had insurance that paid for cutting off a hand or something, or 
maybe it was karmic,
or just plain carlessness.

Marshall

D G wrote:

 regrew a hand?
 whenwherehow?
 documented?

 Dennis

   

 Subject: Re: CSNew Scars On Face
 Resent-Date: Mon, 27 Dec 1999 09:25:10 -0800
 Resent-From: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Date: Mon, 27 Dec 1999 12:21:02 -0500
 From: Marshall Dudley mdud...@execonn.com
 Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 References: 000401bf4fed$3f7c08c0$3aae1...@compaq 
 5f6d6s8a6rhatv1cmdccahbvbmu1vu1...@4ax.com

 Silver causes injured cells to revert back to stem cells, which can then 
 become
 anything they need to be.  If you have a gaping wound then it will fill with
 blood, which if you have silver ions available will convert to juvinile or 
 stem
 cells, which then become whatever you need to heal totally and completely
 without scaring.  I know of one case in which an entire hand was regrown using
 silver ions, and it ended up completely functional and except for missing all
 the scars and blemishes that were on it before it was cut off, identical to 
 the
 old hand.  Theoratically the hand will be young, so it is possible that when 
 the
 person is very old, that regrown hand will still look like it is a young
 adult's.

 Unfortunately scar tissue will not rejuvinate.  I have read that to remove a
 scar, it has to be physically removed, then the silver ions applied to the
 wound, and it will then heal without scar tissue.

 Marshall

 Marshall

 cking...@nycap.rr.com wrote:

  On Sun, 26 Dec 1999 16:04:53 -0600, Nutritional Intelligence Cooperative of
  North America jdkl...@netzero.net wrote:
 
  a piece of silver would work better.  i have seen dramatic pictures of
  silver cloth bandages on a forehead trauma.  Silver speeds up the healing
  and reduces scarring.
  
  jd
 
  Yow,
  Now we're back on topic!
  How'd that happen?
  Chuck
  Frisbeetarianism is the belief that when you die, your soul goes up on the
  roof and gets stuck
 
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RE: CSRe: [CS kill anthrax]

1999-12-27 Thread James Osbourne, Holmes
Hi Marshall, 

Yes, Articles is void at present.   In error---oh, no---I did not give the 
URL for the home page. 

Try this:

http://antishyster.com/

then, Free Magazines.

He is slowly placing all which has been published, starting sometime in 1990, 
on the site.  

James Osbourne Holmes
a...@trail.com


-Original Message-
From:   Marshall Dudley [SMTP:mdud...@execonn.com]
Sent:   Monday, December 27, 1999 10:10 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject:Re: CSRe: [CS kill anthrax]

It appears that all his articles and publications have been removed, I get
directory not found when I try to view the index of them.

Marshall

James Osbourne, Holmes wrote:

 http://antishyster.com/articles.htm

 Generally, a very excellent print publication. Much to boggle the mind
 about history, law, and politics.  Alfred is careful to identify
 speculation.

 James Osbourne Holmes
 a...@trail.com

 -Original Message-
 From:   Nutritional Intelligence Cooperative of North America
 [SMTP:jdkl...@netzero.net]
 Sent:   Friday, December 24, 1999 6:07 PM
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Subject:Re: CSRe: [CS kill anthrax]

 do you have antishyster's website?

 jd

 -Original Message-
 From: James Osbourne, Holmes a...@trail.com
 To: 'silver-list@eskimo.com' silver-list@eskimo.com
 Date: Thursday, October 21, 1999 6:25 PM
 Subject: RE: CSRe: [CS kill anthrax]

 Remember the flap about the terrorist Larry Wayne Harris, who was busted
 by the FBI in AZ for having anthrax in his possession?
 
 He is a registered professional microbiologist and was testing both CS and
 the Rife generator for efficacy against anthrax.  I think he said it
 works,
 but he recommends that you be on a maintenance dose before
 exposure/inoculation.
 
 Somewhere there is a book he published about  just plain folks dealing
 with
 biowar.  It was advertised in AnitShyster, which has a web site.
 
 James Osbourne Holmes
 a...@trail.com
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Roman [SMTP:r_ro...@usa.net]
 Sent: Thursday, October 21, 1999 12:26 PM
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Subject: CSRe: [CS kill anthrax]
 
 Does it really kill anthrax? Does anybody know for sure? If so, what
 should
 be
 the regimen? And how strong should CS be?
 
 Roman
 
 
 Marshall Dudley mdud...@execonn.com wrote:
  Discussing the biological attack on New York this news site states:
 
  One colloidal silver generator can make enough silver for dozens of
  families. And
   colloidal silver, for those of you who don't know, kills anthrax.
 
  http://www.y2knewswire.com/19991018.asp
 
  If you want it, grab it, they update every day or two and then articles
  cannot be retreived unless you subscribe to their service.
 
  marshall
 
 
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RE: CSNew Scars On Face

1999-12-27 Thread James Osbourne, Holmes
Hello All,

Marshall, can you give us any details on the new hand' case?   That sounds 
really wild.  

James Osbourne Holmes
a...@trail.com


-Original Message-
From:   Marshall Dudley [SMTP:mdud...@execonn.com]
Sent:   Monday, December 27, 1999 10:21 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject:Re: CSNew Scars On Face

Silver causes injured cells to revert back to stem cells, which can then become
anything they need to be.  If you have a gaping wound then it will fill with
blood, which if you have silver ions available will convert to juvinile or stem
cells, which then become whatever you need to heal totally and completely
without scaring.  I know of one case in which an entire hand was regrown using
silver ions, and it ended up completely functional and except for missing all
the scars and blemishes that were on it before it was cut off, identical to the
old hand.  Theoratically the hand will be young, so it is possible that when the
person is very old, that regrown hand will still look like it is a young
adult's.

Unfortunately scar tissue will not rejuvinate.  I have read that to remove a
scar, it has to be physically removed, then the silver ions applied to the
wound, and it will then heal without scar tissue.

Marshall

Marshall

cking...@nycap.rr.com wrote:

 On Sun, 26 Dec 1999 16:04:53 -0600, Nutritional Intelligence Cooperative of
 North America jdkl...@netzero.net wrote:

 a piece of silver would work better.  i have seen dramatic pictures of
 silver cloth bandages on a forehead trauma.  Silver speeds up the healing
 and reduces scarring.
 
 jd

 Yow,
 Now we're back on topic!
 How'd that happen?
 Chuck
 Frisbeetarianism is the belief that when you die, your soul goes up on the
 roof and gets stuck

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RE: CSDowsing????

1999-12-27 Thread James Osbourne, Holmes
Hi Folks,

That is very probably true.  Lawrence Gardner's research says that the 
original meaning of the word which has come down to us from the very 
distant past as sin, originally meant genetic defect.

James Osbourne Holmes
a...@trail.com


-Original Message-
From:   Nicole Fraser [SMTP:on_ne_change_...@yahoo.com]
Sent:   Monday, December 27, 1999 11:32 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject:Re: CSDowsing

  File: ATT00016.html 
I believe it simply means that if the world was without sin, then we would 
have no disease.

I am sorry, I am not sure if you are agreeing or disagreeing with that 
statement? but I would have to agree with that completely! :0)

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Re: CSDowsing????

1999-12-27 Thread Nicole Fraser

Well, in answer to Any's question. I cannot ask him to understand because as 
someone said he was not raised with the same beliefs as me. I did not mean to 
offend. All I meant was God has said he does not want us to open doors like to 
divining etc.. so these are indeed MY personal beliefs, so I do not wish to 
get into dowsing if I thought that it follows the line of this. All I meant was 
that simply. You can say it has to with energies, but I do not want to be aware 
of another sense if I should not and God doesn't want me too. (I am sorry but 
my brain is very foggy and I have been trying VERY hard to make myself clear, 
but I seem to find the wrong words:0( ) if I feel this is more than common 
sense that God gives us like, oh I do not like this person,..or oh I feel sick 
from eating this, or I am doing the wrong thing..then I don't want to be apart 
of something God did not already give me. Like intuition maybe I am trying to 
say? And if it tells me not to do this then I will!
 listen! ;0)

I DO agree with trying to be more in touch with your body in a WAY..like me I 
never listen to it when it tells me to REST..SIMPLE things like this, but I 
know there are OTHER methods of this that are not dowsing, like relaxing 
techniques..and things.

I believe in this time of age..as not to get into talking about religion (as 
have I have tried to be blunt and not talk much,) that we have to be careful as 
the Devil can be as convincing and fool us into thinking things are fromGOD, 
because they seem to be the answer to our prayers, when in fact they are 
not...that is all:0).

 If people believe that dowsing is fine, well I am not trying to change your 
mind. I cannot say I have a good feeling about it. But I DON'T want people 
accusing me of not being open to things just because I am a religious person! 
THAT is just ignorance! I would not have come here and asked this question if I 
did not feel I could be wrong about itI did not close my eyes, I just 
wanted more information.

I think I have been VERY open minded. I did not make my dicision UNTIL I found 
more information from you all! I did not go to this woman and just tell her, oh 
you are a witch and I will not be a par tof this! LOL I thought she was JUST an 
herbalist, but when it seemed different than that I had to, and DID make up my 
OWN mind..I am not blinded or ignorant by my religious views and I respect all 
of your oppinions and appreciate you doing the same:0). Just because I do not 
believe it is for me, or something I would recamend doesn't mean I am IGNORANT 
because I want to follow the bible and God I do not think. People who don't 
feel like that about God and religion can't possible understand. :0( So I am 
worn out from all this! I hope NOW I have made myself clear in what I am trying 
to say? And honestly I found everyones perspectives interesting to say the 
least..;0) Thank you all for your oppinions!

Nicole:O)

Marshall Dudley mdud...@execonn.com wrote:
Making sure you do not open the wrong door is important. That is why one always
asks for protection from God before doing a healing or dowsing. THAT assures
that you will not open the wrong door, for if you ask God to prevent it, he 
will.

Marshall

ascottx...@aol.com wrote:

 From: Nicole Fraser 

 Well, I don't think that has to do with ignorance at all! I am QUITE open
 minded in fact, or I would not have asked this list.. In answer to
 your question I refuse to open a door that the bible says to stay away
 from and keep CLOSED.. I would not like to even PEEK inside because God has
 reason for that and I don't think I need to explain. I think I found my
 answer from a private response...the door is now CLOSED! ;0/ I don't mean to
 offend but I do not think I am the ignorant one hereI pity that:0( 

 Nicole:O)

 Hi Nicole,

 Perhaps I am the ignorant one here I don't understand what door you are
 talking about. Could you please elaborate on that?

 My thoughts are that if God didn't want us to open doors he wouldn't have
 given us brains and an opposing thumb.

 Best wishes,
 Andy (^_^)

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RE: CSDowsing????

1999-12-27 Thread D G
they knew about genes?

Dennis

---BeginMessage---
Hi Folks,

That is very probably true.  Lawrence Gardner's research says that the 
original meaning of the word which has come down to us from the very 
distant past as sin, originally meant genetic defect.

James Osbourne Holmes
a...@trail.com


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From:   Nicole Fraser [SMTP:on_ne_change_...@yahoo.com]
Sent:   Monday, December 27, 1999 11:32 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject:Re: CSDowsing

  File: ATT00016.html 
I believe it simply means that if the world was without sin, then we would 
have no disease.

I am sorry, I am not sure if you are agreeing or disagreeing with that 
statement? but I would have to agree with that completely! :0)

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CSAutoimmune Diseases? HELP!!!!

1999-12-27 Thread Nicole Fraser

Now one thing has ALWAYS stayed a constant in my illness. My body is attacking 
itself since I have a positive ANA. I do not have Lupus, or anything like 
that..we believe Lyme, but it seems to be more complicated maybe? 

I will be brief and just ask if anyone knows any natural therapies that may 
help? I know doctors reccamend things that depress the immune system to make it 
slow down..are there any herbs maybe or something similar that may be of help? 
Has anyone had any success with doing something special that has helped? I am 
sure trying to minimize stress helps as that makes it worse, and my body 
attacks itself even more, but when this isn't possible at times when it is just 
unaviodable I was wondering if there is anything else that may help :0)

Any thoughts???

Nicole:O)


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CSOT Animal Feed ......

1999-12-27 Thread Ron Cuthbertson
Hello List

In keeping with other recent non topic posts recently I forward the
following .

Ron

Date: 20/12/99 13:39

Greetings friends, associates, and acquaintances,

Please forgive the unsolicited mail, but I thought that
this communication would be of interest to you all.  At
least, it answers the question as to why the Soil
Association does not include provisions for composted GMO
contaminated materials in their standards.  Also, I consider
that the delete key is a quick and painless solution to
unwanted emails!

Take care all, and happy Xmas.

20 December, 1999

Dear XXX XX

UK MAFF investigated DNA fragmentation and found that GMO material would
need to be heated to 95C for at least 5 min in order to fragment the DNA
into sizes of less than 100bp - which would be enough to disrupt the
antibiotic resistance genes. But even this treatment would leave short
fragments of DNA which do retain some biological activity.  You simply
must try to ensure the material you compost is GMO free I'm afraid. MAFF
scientists have stated in their reports that GMO material must not be
used for silage, because DNA is not destroyed during composing and soil
micro-organisms can take it up and incorporate it - indeed, they do so
regularly.

The dispersal of naked GMO DNA in the environment is a major concern
here at ISIS and we are planning a number of papers about it next year.
Animal feed is a mess I agree and there is nothing easy about this awful
GMO situation for any sort of farmer.

I attach a critique on the UK MAFF study for your information.

Angela Ryan


The Institute of Science in Society

Critique of MAFF Report CS0116

Effect of feed processing conditions on DNA fragmentation

By Angela Ryan
Molecular Biologist, Open University   19th Nov 1999

Introduction

The purpose of this report was to determine the extent to which DNA is
fragmented in animal feed.  Animal feed is either fed raw or processed
under a variety of conditions in commercial mills.  The effect of
several methods of processing on the fragmentation of DNA in animal feed
was analysed.  DNA fragmentation in raw foodstuffs from a number of
commercial feeds and non-commercial feeds was also investigated.

This work set out to address concerns regarding the transfer of foreign
genes, especially antibiotic resistance genes introduced in GM crops, to
microbes rendering them antibiotic-resistant.  The report points to the
resurgence of tuberculosis as an example of the significant medical
problems that may come about from the transfer of such resistance to
micro-organisms and suggests transfer of resistance genes from GM crops
would exacerbate the problem of resistant strains of bacteria.

In order for gene transfer to occur, a gene would need to be complete
and therefore the DNA of which it is composed, stable and relatively
intact.  The report states that it is unlikely for transfer of such
genes from plant to microbe to be proved impossible.  It goes on:
Therefore, if GM plants are to be licensed, it is necessary to know
what onditions are necessary in installations preparing animal feeds for
the prevention of gene transmission, i.e. sufficient disruption of DNA.
This report describes the results of a Pilot Study commissioned from
Leeds University by MAFF.  The study is on a small scale, has limited
resources and has been performed on non-GM material.  Nevertheless, the
results give every indication that further studies are needed, which the
scientists concerned were ready to undertake and were expecting further
funding for from MAFF.

Experimental Details
Processing Specifications
Three major UK animal feed companies were involved with this study,
providing advice on processing specifications and a range of animal feed
samples.  Ranges of laboratory treatments were carried out to determine
the conditions required during processing to sufficiently disrupt the
DNA. Wheat samples were subjected to mechanical grinding and milling at
different grist sizes in the laboratory.  The processing of oil seed
samples did not receive the closely monitored processing conditions
initially required by the project - processed oil samples were supplied
by the industry.

Samples
Samples of animal feed ingredients were obtained from the collaborating
companies and include:  Oil seeds, before and after oil extraction by
expulsion and compression; Wheat grains of the variety Riband subjected
to heating both dry and moist, at a range of temperatures and pressures
and for a range of durations. Smaller samples of 20 varieties of wheat
were subject to proximate analysis and five of these varieties were
subjected to dry heat treatment at 93 degrees centigrade;  Fresh maize
leaves and maize silage, from the University Farm; fresh maize cobs and
maize grains from the local supermarket; Maize gluten and flaked maize;
Fresh wet sugar beet and dried sugar beet pulp; Fresh ryegrass and rye
silage.

Experimental Protocol
DNA was extracted from the variety of animal feed 

CSSalt...surprise! Deb and Lew...

1999-12-27 Thread Vilik Rapheles

No salt restriction, in fact, I tested LOW on salt, doc said he had
never seen anyone that was deficient in salt:). Deb

~~
I know a homeopath who believes we are all salt (real salt...food sodium)
deficient. Also was just reading Bernard Jenson...he believes the
body esp the stomach needs salt...complex theory. He recommends
Capra goat whey, which has lots of sodium and potassium. Braggs
amino acids (a liquid that goes on food) is tasty and very high in
food sodium. 

Food sodium is apparently quite different than table salt.

Homeopathically, salt is nat/mur (I think...help me here, Lew...)
If you are salt deficient, you could try 3 or 6 x, 3 times a day...
couln't hurt...(Lew...what do you think?)

The sea salts which are naturally extracted...Celtic salt and others...
(NOT the stuff in boxes that says sea salt...) are also supposed
to me helpful.

There was a theory going around that CFIDS was a salt-deficient
disease. I tried Celtic salt, but no change. With a number of
current changes, however, which including going back on the sea
salt and adding Braggs, I am feeling better. I have just added
in Capra goat whey, which is also great for the intestines...
brings about a pH that is conducive to good flora...and also
alkalizes the blood. It is in general a rich source of easily
digested minerals.

I used to crave salt...since making these changes I don't.

~^^V^^~

When you are deluded and full of doubt, even a thousand
books of scripture are not enough. When you have understanding,
even one word is too much.

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Re: CSNew Scars On Face

1999-12-27 Thread Vilik Rapheles
At 11:31 AM 12/27/99 -0500, you wrote:
Aloe vera gel with CS.  Don't forget to mix in the CS, very important.
The Aloe
Vera supplies nutrients to the tissue while blood is cut off so it doesn't
die and
has a number of healing agents in it.  The CS prevents infection, and
allows injured
cells to revert back to juvinile cells so that they can form the proper
cells,
thereby eliminating scar tissue.  There is much synergy between the two so
that the
whole is greater than the sum of the parts.

Marshall
~~~
Thanks marshall. And emu oil is the most deeply penetrating oil, and anti
bacterial. I think a treatment  of silver, aloe, CS, E, rosa mesquita and
emu oils, and comfrey, would cover all bases. 

Good emu oil...High Cascade...800-814-EMUS.

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CSNew hand? new head?

1999-12-27 Thread Vilik Rapheles
 I know of one case in which an entire hand was regrown using
silver ions, and it ended up completely functional and except for missing all
the scars and blemishes that were on it before it was cut off, identical
to the
old hand. 

~~~
My god marshall...do tell! Please give the details! This is fantastic.

~^^V^^~


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Re: CSGout

1999-12-27 Thread Vilik Rapheles
At 01:12 PM 12/27/99 -0500, you wrote:
I have been reading the book biological transmtations.  I had no idea that
there was so much proof that life can so easily convert elements to other
elements.  It turns out that the body converts sodium to potassium when you
are getting into hyperthermia, so maybe there is a biological basis to a
sweat
lodge after all other than sweating out the toxins.

Marshall
~~
You mean...a tablespoon of blackstrap molasses and a banana, and I don't have
to sweat? 

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CSAnother hand? Talking to Matt...

1999-12-27 Thread Vilik Rapheles
At 01:31 PM 12/27/99 -0500, you wrote:
Write to matth...@ispchannel.com (Matt Scudiere).  He knows the researcher
who was involved in this
research.  Unfortunately the man cut the other hand off within a year.
Not sure what his problem
was.  Maybe he had insurance that paid for cutting off a hand or
something, or maybe it was karmic,
or just plain carlessness.

Marshall
~
Did he regrow the other hand?

Would one person be willing to write to Matt and forward the info to the
list, so he isn't deluged? Volunteers?

~^^V^^~



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CScorpal tunnel

1999-12-27 Thread Marshall Dudley
I had two people ask me if there was anything besides surgery for CT.  Said I
would try and find out.  Anyone?

Marshall


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RE: CSDowsing????

1999-12-27 Thread James Osbourne, Holmes
Hi Dennis,

According to Sitchen and others they certainly did.

One of the clay documents he translated from the ancient Sumerian is 
obviously a license to operate a small flying machine.
The alleged genetic manipulation of humans is stated very clearly.  But how 
can we know those documents were not a plant to conceal the real history?


James Osbourne Holmes
a...@trail.com


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Sent:   Monday, December 27, 1999 12:02 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject:RE: CSDowsing

  Message: RE: CSDowsing  they knew about genes?

Dennis



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Re: CScorpal tunnel

1999-12-27 Thread hughman1
In the book The Miracle of MSM: The Natural Solution for Pain by Stanley
W. Jacob M.D. and Ronald M. Lawrence, M.D., Ph.D. , there is a chapter
concerned with the treatment of carpal tunnel with MSM.
Hugh
- Original Message -
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To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Monday, December 27, 1999 1:07 PM
Subject: Re: CScorpal tunnel


 At 03:34 PM 12/27/99 -0500, you wrote:
 I had two people ask me if there was anything besides surgery for CT.
Said I
 would try and find out.  Anyone?
 
 Marshall
 
 Two thoughts...one is supplements...there is a regime that includes B6 as
 a key player...

 And I knew a massage therapist who learned a technique...simple...but
 can't really describe...put elbow on something...bend wrist back...
 stroke deeply muscles of inner forearm and stretch...

 She said 90% of CT clears up...

 have you checked net?


 ~^^V^^~



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Re: CScarpal tunnel

1999-12-27 Thread Debbie McDonald
I have these type symptoms and have read that this can be caused by
candida in the muscles. It seems to fit my case, I got worse when I
started taking anti candida meds, not sticking to the diet religiously
and not rotating the meds(over the counter health food store, not
prescription). If I eat sugar, it most definately gets worse. This
would explain the large numbers of people that have the surgery and
get no relief!!!:), just like lower back pain can be leaky gut.Deb


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Re: CScarpal tunnel

1999-12-27 Thread James Allison
MSM is supposed to help with candida as well.

Yours in health,
James Allison

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Subject: Re: CScarpal tunnel


 I have these type symptoms and have read that this can be caused by
 candida in the muscles. It seems to fit my case, I got worse when I
 started taking anti candida meds, not sticking to the diet religiously
 and not rotating the meds(over the counter health food store, not
 prescription). If I eat sugar, it most definately gets worse. This
 would explain the large numbers of people that have the surgery and
 get no relief!!!:), just like lower back pain can be leaky gut.Deb
 
 
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Re: CSDowsing????

1999-12-27 Thread CKing001
On Mon, 27 Dec 1999 12:01:52 -0700 (MST), djg5...@webtv.net (D G) wrote:

they knew about genes?

Dennis

I think he meant Jeans. Levi Strauss started the downfall of the civilized
world.
Chuck
If you want to steam a clam...
Make fun of his religion
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Re: CSNew Scars On Face

1999-12-27 Thread CKing001
On Mon, 27 Dec 1999 11:28:30 -0700 (MST), djg5...@webtv.net (D G) wrote:

regrew a hand?
whenwherehow?
documented?

Dennis

Why not? When I was 13, I grew another foot
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Re: CSAutoimmune Diseases? HELP!!!!

1999-12-27 Thread CKing001
On Mon, 27 Dec 1999 11:08:17 -0800 (PST), Nicole Fraser
on_ne_change_...@yahoo.com wrote:

Now one thing has ALWAYS stayed a constant in my illness. My body is attacking 
itself since I have a positive ANA. I do not have Lupus, or anything like 
that..we believe Lyme, but it seems to be more complicated maybe? 

Several listers have had good luck combating Lyme with colloidal silver.
You'll probably be hearing from Marsha soon.
Go to the archives and search on Lyme for a lot of hints on dosage, etc.

Chuck
A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an
 invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write
 a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort
 the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone,
 solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program
 a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die
 gallantly.
 Specialization is for insects.
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CSRE: Ancient Data Storage Media, was CSDowsing???? Way, way OT

1999-12-27 Thread James Osbourne, Holmes
Well, yes, a good question.

But the cuneiform tablets are interesting to compare with paper and 
magnetic storage.  They really are hard to alter without tell-tale 
evidence, they are not affected by reasonable strength magnetic fields and 
radiation, don't fade or rot, and are still readable after 5K years.

How much of our current and past  data storage  media will be usable in the 
year 7000?

Interesting printer design problems though, sort of a hot clay linotype; 
instead of toner, you shovel in dirt, and the warm-up time is a killer. 
   Mail is a problem too...

But on the upside, it would really be impractical to store title 26 USC in 
cuneiform.   And you could drop your drivers license on the revenue agent's 
foot.

James Osbourne Holmes
a...@trail.com


-Original Message-
From:   Marshall Dudley [SMTP:mdud...@execonn.com]
Sent:   Monday, December 27, 1999 1:50 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject:Re: CSDowsing

I have a hard time undertanding how a culture could have flying machines, 
yet
write on clay tablets.

Marshall

James Osbourne, Holmes wrote:

 Hi Dennis,

 According to Sitchen and others they certainly did.

 One of the clay documents he translated from the ancient Sumerian is
 obviously a license to operate a small flying machine.
 The alleged genetic manipulation of humans is stated very clearly.  But 
how
 can we know those documents were not a plant to conceal the real history?

 James Osbourne Holmes
 a...@trail.com

 -Original Message-
 From:   D G [SMTP:djg5...@webtv.net]
 Sent:   Monday, December 27, 1999 12:02 PM
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Subject:RE: CSDowsing

   Message: RE: CSDowsing  they knew about genes?

 Dennis

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Re: CScorpal tunnel

1999-12-27 Thread CKing001
On Mon, 27 Dec 1999 15:34:21 -0500, Marshall Dudley mdud...@execonn.com
wrote:

I had two people ask me if there was anything besides surgery for CT.  Said I
would try and find out.  Anyone?

Marshall


I came across a reference not too long ago about MSM giving relief for carpal.

Chuck
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CSFW: The man who regrew a hand. (Actually the tip of one finger) darn.

1999-12-27 Thread James Osbourne, Holmes
I thought your would all like to see this.

What a great name for an MD, Bart Flick.  Coulda been in MASH.

James Osbourne Holmes
a...@trail.com


-Original Message-
From:   Matt Scudiere [SMTP:matth...@ispchannel.com]
Sent:   Monday, December 27, 1999 2:24 PM
To: James Osbourne, Holmes
Subject:Re: The man who regrew a hand.

James,
Well, it's a little exaggerated to say he regrew a hand.  It was the tip of 
a finger between the last knuckle and the base of the fingernail.  It was 
done using silver bandages with a tiny electric current diffusing the 
silver into the wound along with various frequencies I believe.  It also 
followed the injury and was not after the wound had healed.
The Trauma Surgeon who did it was Bart Flick in Ga just across the TN/GA 
border-I can't remember the town.   The last known email address I have for 
him is (Bart Flick) argen...@stc.net.
I hope this helps
Matt

At 01:48 PM 12/27/99 , you wrote:
Hello Matt Scudiere,

Marshall Dudley  told me that you have information about such a case.  Can 
you direct me to any details?

Thanks for your attention,

James Osbourne Holmes
a...@trail.com

application/ms-tnef

CSBaptists and altered time...

1999-12-27 Thread Vilik Rapheles
At 02:42 PM 12/27/99 -0600, you wrote:
--snip--
 I come
 from 400 years of Baptist ministers - literally - the first one being the
 first governor of South Carolina; 
  --snip--
~~~
South Carolina was established as a
Royal Province in 1729 by Charles II. Thats only 270 years ago.
South Carolina became a state with a governor in 1788. Thats only 211
years ago. :-)
~~~

I guess time drags when you're a Baptist...

~^^V^^~

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Re: CSDowsing????

1999-12-27 Thread Scharbach
You're doing fine Nicole.   *I* understood totally what you meant.   God does 
give some very implicit
directions regarding certain things, and sometimes it is hard to tell what 
would be acceptable, and what
is teetering on the edge.

An interesting line of thought I have been having lately.   The first man 
created, Adam, was perfect in every
way, but fell into degeneration and sin.   Jesus was called the Second Adam 
also perfect in every way.
We were created in God's image.   If, indeed the world, (and man) has been 
degenerating, it is possible
that we had a far greater capacity than we use now.   What is it they say?   We 
use only 10 % of our 
brain?DId the 1st Adam use his whole brain, and did Jesus, and is that in 
part why he was able to
heal, to understand peoples thoughts, etc. etc.?

Blah, blah, blah.   I just wanted to encourage you that, no, thinking things 
through in your own way, certainly
does not make you ignorant at all.  

((hugs))

Sparrow
I did not close my eyes, I just wanted more information.

I think I have been VERY open minded. I did not make my dicision UNTIL I 
found more information from you all! I did not go to this woman and just tell 
her, oh you are a witch and I will not be a par tof this! LOL I thought she was 
JUST an herbalist, but when it seemed different than that I had to, and DID 
make up my OWN mind..I am not blinded or ignorant by my religious views and I 
respect all of your oppinions and appreciate you doing the same:0). Just 
because I do not believe it is for me, or something I would recamend doesn't 
mean I am IGNORANT because I want to follow the bible and God I do not think. 
People who don't feel like that about God and religion can't possible 
understand. :0( So I am worn out from all this! I hope NOW I have made myself 
clear in what I am trying to say? And honestly I found everyones perspectives 
interesting to say the least..;0) Thank you all for your oppinions!

Nicole:O)





Re: CScorpal tunnel

1999-12-27 Thread Dick Jaffe
Henley Healthcare has a cold laser device called the MicroLite 830 that will 
cure
CTS.  It was successfully tested over 3 years ago on a GM assembly line but the
%...@* FDA has been sitting on their hands because, in my opinion, they want to
prevent chiropractors and physical therapists from treating and curing an 
ailment
that will then put all those wrist surgeons out of business.  Interestingly, it
has been approved for veterinary use for years, so the dogs and horses can get
cured but we don't.  Maybe if you know a friendly vet, he will treat you.
Otherwise call Henley in Sugarland, Texas, and inquire if there is an FDA 
testing
protocol going on in your area.

Dick

Marshall Dudley wrote:

 I had two people ask me if there was anything besides surgery for CT.  Said I
 would try and find out.  Anyone?

 Marshall

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Re: CSAutoimmune Diseases? HELP!!!!

1999-12-27 Thread Nicole Fraser

Thank you but Marsha was the one who told me about the list and I have been on 
CS for 3 months now I think? ;0) Great stuff! I sure feel worse so it must be 
killing it..I try to be patient though...

Nicole:O)

cking...@nycap.rr.com wrote:
On Mon, 27 Dec 1999 11:08:17 -0800 (PST), Nicole Fraser
wrote:

Now one thing has ALWAYS stayed a constant in my illness. My body is attacking 
itself since I have a positive ANA. I do not have Lupus, or anything like 
that..we believe Lyme, but it seems to be more complicated maybe? 

Several listers have had good luck combating Lyme with colloidal silver.
You'll probably be hearing from Marsha soon.
Go to the archives and search on Lyme for a lot of hints on dosage, etc.

Chuck
A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an
invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write
a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort
the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone,
solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program
a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die
gallantly.
Specialization is for insects.
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Re: CSAutoimmune Diseases? HELP!!!!

1999-12-27 Thread erlash
Hi Nicole,

I recently read an article that said that Chicken or Bovine Cartlidge can have
a modulating effect on Autoimmune Disease.  It might be worth a try, or of
further investigation.

Good Luck... Eric

At 11:08 AM 12/27/99 -0800, you wrote: 


 Now one thing has ALWAYS stayed a constant in my illness. My body is
 attacking itself since I have a positive ANA. I do not have Lupus, or
 anything like that..we believe Lyme, but it seems to be more complicated
 maybe? 

 I will be brief and just ask if anyone knows any natural therapies that may
 help? I know doctors reccamend things that depress the immune system to make
 it slow down..are there any herbs maybe or something similar that may be of
 help? Has anyone had any success with doing something special that has
 helped? I am sure trying to minimize stress helps as that makes it worse,
and
 my body attacks itself even more, but when this isn't possible at times when
 it is just unaviodable I was wondering if there is anything else that may
 help :0)

 Any thoughts???

 Nicole:O)


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Re: CSFW: The man who regrew a hand. (Actually the tip of one finger) darn.

1999-12-27 Thread James Allison
Actually, I have a copy of the pictures of the finger of which you type, and
they will be posted on my website within a week.  I am going to be a
distributor for the company that manufactures the bandages which promoted
the healing.  It's pretty awesome stuff!  The bandages that were used are
called SILVERLON and they are made for a company called Argentum
Research, Inc. which is located in Lakemont, GA.  The inventor is Dr. A.B.
Flick M.D. and the contact for the bandages is Roger Sayles and last but not
least, their website is at http://www.silverlon.com

My main question is not of the miraculous healing, but of why the FDA has
approved the SILVERLON bandages, which work because they are 99% pure silver
and 1% silver oxide and yet the FDA supports the bashing of silver in it's
colloidal form.

On a side note, thank goodness we're finely getting back on topic.

Yours in health,
James Allison

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- Original Message -
From: James Osbourne, Holmes a...@trail.com
To: 'Silver List' silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Monday, December 27, 1999 3:25 PM
Subject: CSFW: The man who regrew a hand. (Actually the tip of one finger)
darn.


 I thought your would all like to see this.

 What a great name for an MD, Bart Flick.  Coulda been in MASH.

 James Osbourne Holmes
 a...@trail.com


 -Original Message-
 From: Matt Scudiere [SMTP:matth...@ispchannel.com]
 Sent: Monday, December 27, 1999 2:24 PM
 To: James Osbourne, Holmes
 Subject: Re: The man who regrew a hand.

 James,
 Well, it's a little exaggerated to say he regrew a hand.  It was the tip
of
 a finger between the last knuckle and the base of the fingernail.  It was
 done using silver bandages with a tiny electric current diffusing the
 silver into the wound along with various frequencies I believe.  It also
 followed the injury and was not after the wound had healed.
 The Trauma Surgeon who did it was Bart Flick in Ga just across the TN/GA
 border-I can't remember the town.   The last known email address I have
for
 him is (Bart Flick) argen...@stc.net.
 I hope this helps
 Matt

 At 01:48 PM 12/27/99 , you wrote:
 Hello Matt Scudiere,
 
 Marshall Dudley  told me that you have information about such a case.
Can
 you direct me to any details?
 
 Thanks for your attention,
 
 James Osbourne Holmes
 a...@trail.com
 



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Re: CSFW: The man who regrew a hand. (Actually the tip of one finger) darn.

1999-12-27 Thread James Allison
Ack! I shoulda went to their website before I posted that last message, as
you won't need to wait to see the pictures, because they have them posted at
the silverlon site already.

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Re: CSDowsing????

1999-12-27 Thread Fred
Marshall said:
I have a hard time undertanding how a culture could have flying machines, yet
write on clay tablets.

You forget how clever those early traders were, they only sold the license
and never said when delivery would be, figuring the clay tablets would be
dissolved in the later acid rain, when a fuel was invented!

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Re: CS The man who regrew a hand. (Actually the tip of one finger) darn.

1999-12-27 Thread Ignit Bekken
  The inventor is Dr. A.B. Flick M.D. and the contact for the bandages is
Roger Sayles and last but not least, their website is at
http://www.silverlon.com 

If they would have shown all the 'fingers' like they showed the last one,
dated 11Aug. 1995, I would have believed it 

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Re: CS MSM?

1999-12-27 Thread CKing001
On Mon, 27 Dec 1999 09:10:32 -0500, GB Rogers bi...@qed.net wrote:

What does MSM stand for?  I've seen it referred to quite a bit.  TIA

This will get you up to speed:
http://www.dancingwolf-inc.com/nutrisignif.html

The new wonder supplement of the millenium
Chuck
Vegetables are what food eats!


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Re: CS MSM?

1999-12-27 Thread hughman1
Methyl-Sulfonyl-Methane: a natural source of sulfur.
- Original Message -
From: GB Rogers bi...@qed.net
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Monday, December 27, 1999 6:10 AM
Subject: CS MSM?


 What does MSM stand for?  I've seen it referred to quite a bit.  TIA

 Beth

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 From: Nutritional Intelligence Cooperative of North America
 jdkl...@netzero.net
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Subject: Re: CSNew Scars On Face
 Date: Sun, Dec 26, 1999, 1:35 AM
 

  MSM mixed with CS, colostrum, and aloe are ingredients i have of greater
  benefit than vitamin E.


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Re: CSfibromyalgia

1999-12-27 Thread Jolly Garland
How can you be sure?  Its not listed on all labels.

d.linen wrote:

 Marshall Dudley wrote:
 
  It is possible that if it is being caused by aspartame, then eliminating
  aspartame is all that is required to cure it, since we are talking about a
  toxic reaction.
 
  Marshall

 Hi Marshall,

 Thanks for answering my question. I quit ingesting aspartame some time
 ago and do still have fibromyalgia. I refuse to eat or drink anything
 with that poison in it now.

 Do you think that it also helps bring on Migraine headaches for some
 people?

 Diane

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Re: CSNew Scars On Face

1999-12-27 Thread Carol Kehoe
   I had a very bad burn on my hand a few weeks ago (3rd degree).  I
immediately rubbed fresh aloe on it and continued to spray it several times
a day with cs.  I alternated cs and aloe for about 4 days.  The only thing
left to show is a very light pinkish scar that is continuing to fade.  My
husband a friends were amazed.  I was pretty happy too

Carol
   Subject: CSNew Scars On Face
  
  
   I had an accident last night and have
   some bad cuts on my face.  I would
   like to find something that will prevent
   any scars from forming.
  
   Thank you,
  
   Bret
  
  
  
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Re: CSMerry Christmas

1999-12-27 Thread Cindy Powell
Merry Christmas to you as well, Ivan, and a Merry Christmas to all on this
list.  This has been the most enjoyable and informative list I have
participated on.  Thanks to all of you for the humor and the knowledge that
you have shared, and a big ~thankyou~ to Mike for starting and moderating
this list.

Best wishes for a wonderful 2000 to you all.

Cindy
-Original Message-
From: Ivan Anderson i...@win.co.nz
To: Silver-List silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Friday, December 24, 1999 5:13 AM
Subject: CSMerry Christmas


Hello all,

Have put young Rachael (6yrs) to bed, and am waiting to put some
stocking fillers in the pillow case, the one with a picture of Santa
on it, at the foot of her bed. It took some time for her to settle,
she is so excited.

I get a little sad at Christmas, remembering how it used to be...

But then, it will be all go tomorrow and a happy time here.

And I hope it will be a happy time at your house, my friends.
Merry Christmas to you!!!

Ivan.


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