Re: CSOT: Allergies - herniated disc
Digressing - herniated discs respond to hanging by your arms from an overhead bar for 5 seconds 3 times a day until the disc returns to its proper position, if you don't have a thing like I have. I have a Disc-Ease machine [nci] in my office [it has long protruding feet]. Made by C W Products, 89-91 Canterbury Road, Kilsyth. Victoria, Australia 3137. Phone 61 3 9728 5700 Fax 61 3 9728 4377 Maximum load is 127 kilos or 279 pounds. Currently the Aust dollar is worth less than 60 cents US - so things from Australia are cheaper for US citizens. It has arms that adjust to height and width. You hold hand grips and support yourself on solid arm rests while counting to 5... Sometimes I only have one treatment - othertimes I need more. When I got it, it took me 3 weeks to come good. Judith. been on MSM for 3 months. Am now taking about 3heaping teaspoons a day hoping it will stop herniated disk pain in upper back. Its certinaly worth a try. Very inexpenseive, though has a bitter taste. Betty Ft. Lauderdale -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSOT: Allergies
Dear Mike, Often the cause of allergies is quite unrelated to what you expect or are led to believe. My wife is thinking about getting allergy shots. She had some twenty years ago that helped to reduce the severity of her allergy symptoms for a good many years. Lately, she's having problems again and has been very uncomfortable. She is known to react to some grasses, trees, mold and mildew. She's usually worst in the spring and early summer (here in SE Michigan). Symptoms are the usual runny nose, congestion, itchy eyes, and manic sneezing. Unlike me she doesn't respond to ragweed. Has your wife been tested for allergic reactions to wheat and milk? These are often the foundation or root of all other allergies. Judith. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSThoughts on Gerds
Another help with gastric reflux is to drink a glass of water with two teaspoons of apple cider vinegar [containing mother of vinegar] throughout a meat meal. Particularly an evening meal. [Worked for me.] I have read that you should not combine carbohydrate with meat in the same meal if you have that problem. I find if I leave out the meat and just have stack of veg for the evening meal, reflux does not occur. Eating 5 small meals throughout the day instead of 3 larger ones also is supposed to work. Of course, if you have just one meal - that starts at breakfast and goes through to bedtime - you are bound to get gastric reflux! :) Judith. I have had this problem and some of it is caused by the use of some serious drugs. At least I have to include that as I have a serious lung disease and have to have some of these in my life. But I watched in the past some of my problems with Gerds and when they seemed to occur. I done some studying and reading and started to wonder as to the real cause of some of it. I noticed that high protein foods, meat and the like, seemed to effect this in me. I also read where the stomach is effected at times and does not produce enough acid to start digestion of meats. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSColloidal Silver
Hi Hughman1, On Sat, 8 Jul 2000 22:21:25 -0700, hughman1 hughm...@email.msn.com wrote: Colloidal Silver Quackwatch Home Page Colloidal Silver: Risk Without Benefit Stephen Barrett, M.D. Colloidal silver is a suspension of submicroscopic metallic silver particles in a colloidal base. Long-term use of silver preparations can lead to argyria, a condition in which silver salts deposit in the skin, eyes, and internal organs, and the skin turns ashen-gray. Many cases of argyria occurred during the pre-antibiotic era when silver was a common ingredient in nosedrops. When the cause became apparent, doctors stopped recommending their use, and reputable manufacturers stopped producing them. The official drug guidebooks (United States Pharmacopeia and National Formulary) have not listed colloidal silver products since 1975. Dubious Ads In recent years, silver-containing products have been marketed with unsubstantiated claims that they are effective against AIDS, cancer, infectious diseases, parasites, chronic fatigue, acne, warts, hemorrhoids, enlarged prostate, and many other diseases and conditions. Some marketers claim that colloidal silver is effective against hundreds of diseases. Yup. Yet Dr. Barrett spews forth opinions also without substantiation. For example, he mixes statements for silver preparations with colloidal silver -- hoping the reader will assume that they are the same (they aren't). He also ignores the scores of research reports in acknowledged scientific and medical publications that show the effectiveness of colloidal silver. The anecdotal research (about killing staph bacteria in petri dishes) he does cite is probably correct (but his opinion about the results is spurious) given that there is little quality control for retail colloidal silver products. If you make CS yourself, you can control your own quality. Then run your own tests (on plants, animals and yourself). -- Dean -- from (almost) Duh Moines (CDP, KB0ZDF) -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSH2o2
Lynn, Judith Thamm galing...@chariot.net.au Tony a...@new.co.za lfzbiz...@aol.com wrote: Dear Listers: I am looking for an answer from Judith Thamm, as I have a question about H2o2--I was reading one of her posts where she mentions it, but I need to know more, in order to consider getting some, as I have Lyme disease. One of the things I know the Lyme Spirochete hates and that definitely will kill it, is more oxygen in the blood. Can anyone direct me to Juith Thamm's e-mailaddress, or, if you can, give her mine, so I can e-mailher directly? Thanks, Lynn lfzbiz...@aol.com -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSheavy metal
I think a more appropriate name for this site would be WALLET WATCH There ain't a lot of profit in effective, inexpensive, non-propriety (read patented drugs), cures that don't involve repeated Dr's visits. When an outfit like this really gets after a particular product or protocol, in many cases, it is a good sign that the subject(s) is starting to become quite effective (and widely known), not only in helping people actually treat the cause of the disease but helping them avoid high medical bills. This is not to say that the alternative medical field doesn't have just as many Quacks as the Allopathic medical field. Ultimately we are all responsible for our own health and need to do sufficient due diligence before choosing any therapy. Dave Perkins enjoy being email: dperk...@betterwayhealth.com web site: www.betterwayhealth.com - Original Message - From: Pamela Grant pjgr...@northnet.org To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, July 08, 2000 10:37 PM Subject: Re: CSheavy metal http://www.quackwatch.com/index.html * 01QuackeryRelatedTopics/PhonyAds/silverad.htmlColloidal Silver (updated 11/5/99) Someone just sent this to me. I don't know what they are saying on this websiteabout colloidal silver, but if they are out to discredit ALL forms of alternative medicine then it is just as well my Netscape fails me. I thought some of you might want to check this out. PG -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSNew
Really? You can make your own? Where do you buy the kit? Thanks. John On Sun, 9 Jul 2000 01:21:54 EDT morganstu...@aol.com writes: Welcome John, why don't you just make your own CS? It is simple. Diane M. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.
CSChristian Electronics Ministry
Dear John; I produce CS machines and Zappers and the Beck machines . I am dedicated to producing the best quality units that we can at the lowest possible cost. To me it is really comical the length that people will go to disprove the validity of of a new product that works. There is a huge amount of testimony to the benefits of these therapies and an equally huge mass of testimony as to the deadly effects of the established drugs and so called anti-biotics. Can anyone doubt that the petroleum based chemicals have no place in our bodies and are produced mainly to make profits . Can anyone doubt this profit motive when the end few minutes of every network news bracts consists of a sales pitch for some new drug . Can anyone doubt the statement that they can do this because they own the networks too. Can anyone doubt that we must find some other way to protect our health. Look at the drive in window of your local pharmacies . What kind of insanity have we gotten ourselves into. In our entire family history I can't remember any of any family member that ever went to any drug store to get a special prescription filled . How did I and all of my family get to be over 80 years old with none of these drugs . Any way John inspite of my tirade welcome to the group of ,I hope, believers . These things work and if their use will mean no more colds or flue it is worth the effort. With Gods Love Bob -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSChiropractic: my reply to Quackwatch
In a message dated 07/09/2000 7:33:48 Central Daylight Time, sbi...@quackwatch.com writes: I would guess from your message that you have been thoroughly brainwashed and emotionally addicted to the point that your belief in chiropractic is similar to religious belief. You guess wrong. I can go months without even thinking of chiropractic. (When I'm well I tend to forget having been sick.) When I need an adjustment I know where to go for relief. If by religious belief, you mean faith, it is not an addiction but a way to spiritual and emotional wellness. If I'm brain-washed, as you say, that's good. My brain needed washing. I am 70 years old and the only medication I take is Prempro. Normally, I see my GP once a year and my chiropracter when I need to. I must be doing something right. :o) -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSChristian Electronics Ministry
I would say that conventional medicine and all those damn pills people are taking man further away from God. Simple way of healing/health is the better way - Original Message - From: Bob Squires rj...@dialnet.net To: conla...@juno.com; silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, July 09, 2000 9:28 AM Subject: CSChristian Electronics Ministry Dear John; I produce CS machines and Zappers and the Beck machines . I am dedicated to producing the best quality units that we can at the lowest possible cost. To me it is really comical the length that people will go to disprove the validity of of a new product that works. There is a huge amount of testimony to the benefits of these therapies and an equally huge mass of testimony as to the deadly effects of the established drugs and so called anti-biotics. Can anyone doubt that the petroleum based chemicals have no place in our bodies and are produced mainly to make profits . Can anyone doubt this profit motive when the end few minutes of every network news bracts consists of a sales pitch for some new drug . Can anyone doubt the statement that they can do this because they own the networks too. Can anyone doubt that we must find some other way to protect our health. Look at the drive in window of your local pharmacies . What kind of insanity have we gotten ourselves into. In our entire family history I can't remember any of any family member that ever went to any drug store to get a special prescription filled . How did I and all of my family get to be over 80 years old with none of these drugs . Any way John inspite of my tirade welcome to the group of ,I hope, believers . These things work and if their use will mean no more colds or flue it is worth the effort. With Gods Love Bob -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSSeratia MarcescensCS?
Seratia I understand CS destroys the protein sheath surrounding anaerobic (harmful) bacteria and kills them but does not harm aerobic (friendly) bacteria. Somebody correct me if I'm wrong. mama -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSDoes C/S have odor / taste????
Thank you PJ20844 for acknowledging that metallic taste..same here. Been waiting to hearthat from somebody to know I am not the only one!! Lynn -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSSeratia MarcescensCS?
I've heard that too, and yet, I still get those yucky yeast infections that us women tend to get when those friendly bacteria die off. So I just take a few acidophilus pills a day or eat yogurt to balance it out. Anybody else got an opinion? I'm glad this was brought up, as I know of several other women who don't seem to have the yeast problem with CS. Thanks, Lynn -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSColloidal Silver
In a message dated 7/9/00 1:12:30 AM Central Daylight Time, dtmil...@midiowa.net writes: Yet Dr. Barrett spews forth opinions also without substantiation. For example, he mixes statements for silver preparations with colloidal silver -- hoping the reader will assume that they are the same (they aren't). He also ignores the scores of research reports in acknowledged scientific and medical publications that show the effectiveness of colloidal silver. The anecdotal research (about killing staph bacteria in petri dishes) he does cite is probably correct (but his opinion about the results is spurious) given that there is little quality control for retail colloidal silver products. If you make CS yourself, you can control your own quality. Then run your own tests (on plants, animals and yourself). Amen! I watch this going on all the time. They use to say herbs did nothing. They where useless. As soon as it became a little wider spread in their usage and help from them was recognized, then they say that they can interfere with the use of other drugs. That they are potent to us. Please oh wise people, make up your minds before you open your mouths. Do you not understand that your credibility is suffering? And when one then brings up that may medicines are derived from these plants and act much like them, what about the use by the medical profession of these together also, then you stand there looking stupid again. I am not saying that I don't respect them, I do when I see caring and good sense medicine. But the opening of ones mouth from ego and without good backing of the facts, one can sure damage ones reputation fast. Gene Downey -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSMake your own kefir: easy
I make my own kefir. It's good for the colon and serves the same purpose as yogurt in fighting yeast infections. 1 qt. milk 1 pkg kefir starter from health food store (first time only) Heat the milk to 180F but do not boil. Cool it down to about 75F. Cover and let it sit out overnight or until it forms a curd. Chill in refrigerator to stop the action. Put the cold milk in the blender and add fruit or berries. Strawberries or peaches are good. I like it sweet, so I add a little corn syrup or fruit flavored syrup. Serve ice cold. Delicious and healthful. I save a cup of the curdled milk to use as a starter for the next run and avoid buying expensive starter. mama -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSColloidal Silver
I see Quackwatch is still trotting out the argyria lady! Apparently she's the only one in history to turn blue-grey from a silver product of uncertain nature. If there were more no doubt we'd be hearing about them. I've had two prescriptions made me deathly sick. Silver does not do that but it keeps down infections. I'll take my chances on turning blue. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSFw: [Fwd: CSNew to Group--Help]
Does this process work as good as using an already-manufactured generator? Where do you buy the silver wires/rods? - Forwarded message -- From: Frances Mehner scha...@flash.net To: John L Maurath conla...@juno.com Date: Sun, 09 Jul 2000 09:41:30 -0600 Subject: [Fwd: CSNew to Group--Help] Message-ID: 39689d2a.3e953...@flash.net Received: from mx1.boston.juno.com (mx1.boston.juno.com [63.211.172.33]) by m12.boston.juno.com with SMTP id AAA6YTHLZAZSCY2S for conla...@juno.com (sender scha...@flash.net); Sun, 9 Jul 2000 11:42:15 -0400 (EST) Received: from mx2.jersey.juno.com (mx2.jersey.juno.com [209.67.33.111]) by mx1.boston.juno.com with SMTP id AAA6YTHLZAXBYMGA for conla...@juno.com (sender scha...@flash.net); Sun, 9 Jul 2000 11:42:15 -0400 (EST) Received: from ogopogo.flash.net (ogopogo.flash.net [209.30.2.14]) by mx2.jersey.juno.com with SMTP id AAA6YTHLUAXRYV7J for conla...@juno.com (sender scha...@flash.net); Sun, 9 Jul 2000 11:42:10 -0400 (EST) Received: from flash.net (p104-27.atnt1.dialup.abq1.flash.net [216.215.104.27]) by ogopogo.flash.net (8.9.3/Pro-8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA04104 for conla...@juno.com; Sun, 9 Jul 2000 10:42:08 -0500 (CDT) X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (Win98; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary=134BB1BB798FB1DD1DDA09AA Return-Path: scha...@flash.net X-Accept-Language: en ---BeginMessage--- Dear Hope, Hi! Here`s the CS making info for you. I sure hope CS helps you as well as it did me! Here`s how to make CS: You`ll need 3 nine-volt batteries, (if you can afford the Lithiums they last 4 times longer than the alkalines do.) 2 alligator clips, the ones with two clips on either end of a plastic coated wire, 2 sets actually, which you can buy at Radio Shack, 2 pieces of .999 fine silver wire, 14 gauge, 5 inches long, 2 cups of distilled water in a glass measuring cup. Now connect the batteries together, one snapped upside down onto the tops of the other two. This leaves two empty posts, a positive and a negative. Connect a clip to each post, and the other ends to the silver wires. Rinse the cup with distilled water to remove any dust or residue. Drop the wires into the distilled water, leaving the clips out of the water. Have the wires remain about one inch apart, with 4 inches in the water. They like to float around, so it can be a bit tricky. Some folks wrap theirs around a chopstick or pencil and balance that across the cup. A bend in the top of the wires works too. Don`t worry about being shocked, it doesn`t. Time for a half-hour, and check the wires. If you see bubbles forming on one wire, it is working! The golden clouds is the forming Colloid. After 45 minutes, wipe the black stuff off the wires. This is silver oxide from the oxygen released by the process. It is harmless, I understand, just ugly. Replace the wires for another half hour. You now have Colloidal Silver! Wipe the wires again, disconnect the batteries, and store them away, I use a ziplock bag. Pour the finished CS into a hard plastic or glass bottle. Don`t refrigerate. I take 3 big swallows a day for active infections, or one as a preventive. I also use it topically, and in my eyes for conjunctivitis. Do expect to start feeling really sick as the bugs begin to die off. The silver literally explodes the little nasties, and the gunk inside makes us sick while the body cleans it out. This is called a Herx, short for Jarisch-Herxheimer Reaction. It`ll last for a couple of days. Drink lots of water, and keep away from caffeine and alcohol, to help the body to clean itself out. Good luck!!! Marsha -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net ---End Message---
Re: CSDoes C/S have odor / taste????
Lynn, you are most welcome. pj lfzbiz...@aol.com wrote: Thank you PJ20844 for acknowledging that metallic taste..same here. Been waiting to hearthat from somebody to know I am not the only one!! Lynn -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CS3 batteries vs. mfgd. CS machines
Hello Frances, No it doesn't work as well as some manufactured generators. It does work however. Current control, voltage, stirring the mix, wetted depth of electrodes, electrode spacing, timing, temperature, amount of water used, type of water used and surface area of the electrodes all affect the outcome. You will have to exercise lots of control to end up with consistent batches of CS if you use 3 batteries or the equivalent in a manufactured generator. It is problematic to do it that way from the repeatability and end product results. You can make CS from the ridiculous to the sublime. Check us out for an different type alternative to home-made CS. Trem www.silvergen.com At 12:03 PM 7/9/00 -0500, you wrote: Does this process work as good as using an already-manufactured generator? Where do you buy the silver wires/rods? - Forwarded message -- From: Frances Mehner scha...@flash.net To: John L Maurath conla...@juno.com Date: Sun, 09 Jul 2000 09:41:30 -0600 Subject: [Fwd: CSNew to Group--Help] Message-ID: 39689d2a.3e953...@flash.net Received: from mx1.boston.juno.com (mx1.boston.juno.com [63.211.172.33]) by m12.boston.juno.com with SMTP id AAA6YTHLZAZSCY2S for conla...@juno.com (sender scha...@flash.net); Sun, 9 Jul 2000 11:42:15 -0400 (EST) Received: from mx2.jersey.juno.com (mx2.jersey.juno.com [209.67.33.111]) by mx1.boston.juno.com with SMTP id AAA6YTHLZAXBYMGA for conla...@juno.com (sender scha...@flash.net); Sun, 9 Jul 2000 11:42:15 -0400 (EST) Received: from ogopogo.flash.net (ogopogo.flash.net [209.30.2.14]) by mx2.jersey.juno.com with SMTP id AAA6YTHLUAXRYV7J for conla...@juno.com (sender scha...@flash.net); Sun, 9 Jul 2000 11:42:10 -0400 (EST) Received: from flash.net (p104-27.atnt1.dialup.abq1.flash.net [216.215.104.27]) by ogopogo.flash.net (8.9.3/Pro-8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA04104 for conla...@juno.com; Sun, 9 Jul 2000 10:42:08 -0500 (CDT) X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (Win98; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary=134BB1BB798FB1DD1DDA09AA Return-Path: scha...@flash.net X-Accept-Language: en From: Marsha Hallett liah...@pacbell.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 22:53:21 -0700 Subject: Re: CSNew to Group--Help Message-ID: 001301bfa8fa$682e0500$8334e...@default References: 001b01bfa4a3$c519f360$f8374...@kenhess Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com Received: from mx1.eskimo.com (mx1.eskimo.com [204.122.16.48]) by chupacabras.flash.net (8.9.3/Pro-8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA17304; Tue, 18 Apr 2000 00:54:51 -0500 (CDT) Received: (from smart...@localhost) by mx1.eskimo.com (8.9.1a/8.8.8) id WAA07866; Mon, 17 Apr 2000 22:53:34 -0700 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Resent-Message-ID: 3riZv3.0.jw1.TX_-u@mx1 Resent-Sender: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com X-Mailing-List: silver-list@eskimo.com archive/latest/21995 Resent-From: silver-list@eskimo.com X-Loop: silver-list@eskimo.com X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Resent-Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 22:53:34 -0700 Dear Hope, Hi! Here`s the CS making info for you. I sure hope CS helps you as well as it did me! Here`s how to make CS: You`ll need 3 nine-volt batteries, (if you can afford the Lithiums they last 4 times longer than the alkalines do.) 2 alligator clips, the ones with two clips on either end of a plastic coated wire, 2 sets actually, which you can buy at Radio Shack, 2 pieces of .999 fine silver wire, 14 gauge, 5 inches long, 2 cups of distilled water in a glass measuring cup. Now connect the batteries together, one snapped upside down onto the tops of the other two. This leaves two empty posts, a positive and a negative. Connect a clip to each post, and the other ends to the silver wires. Rinse the cup with distilled water to remove any dust or residue. Drop the wires into the distilled water, leaving the clips out of the water. Have the wires remain about one inch apart, with 4 inches in the water. They like to float around, so it can be a bit tricky. Some folks wrap theirs around a chopstick or pencil and balance that across the cup. A bend in the top of the wires works too. Don`t worry about being shocked, it doesn`t. Time for a half-hour, and check the wires. If you see bubbles forming on one wire, it is working! The golden clouds is the forming Colloid. After 45 minutes, wipe the black stuff off the wires. This is silver oxide from the oxygen released by the process. It is harmless, I understand, just ugly. Replace the wires for another half hour. You now have Colloidal Silver! Wipe the wires again, disconnect the batteries, and store them away, I use a ziplock bag. Pour the finished CS into a hard plastic or glass bottle. Don`t refrigerate. I take 3 big
Re: CSheavy metal
Hi Pamela; Scrub-it. It is anti alternative medicine. Been there and downloaded it. BIGOTRY at its best. Ole Bob -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSwashing your vegetables in CS
Pamela, Wash with plain water to remove pesticides etc., and soak in watermwith about 1 or 2 oz of CS for about 6 minutes. Ole Bob -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSNew
JO\ohn; Make your own genterator, all you need is a DC power source, a digital multimeter, stirring motor, and two pieces of #14 sliver .999 or better and some clip leads. Contact me off list and I can probvide more detailed info. Ole Bob -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSColloidal Silver
Thanks for sending us that. I was wondering what bull they would be spouting. PG ../../index.htmlQuackwatch Home Page Colloidal Silver: Risk Without Benefit Stephen Barrett, M.D. Colloidal silver is a suspension of submicroscopic metallic silver particles in a colloidal base. Long-term use of silver preparations can lead to argyria, a condition in which silver salts deposit in the skin, eyes, and internal organs, and the skin turns ashen-gray. Many cases of argyria occurred during the pre-antibiotic era when silver was a common ingredient in nosedrops. When the cause became apparent, doctors stopped recommending their use, and reputable manufacturers stopped producing them. The official drug guidebooks (United States Pharmacopeia and National Formulary) have not listed colloidal silver products since 1975. Dubious Ads In recent years, silver-containing products have been marketed with unsubstantiated claims that they are effective against AIDS, cancer, infectious diseases, parasites, chronic fatigue, acne, warts, hemorrhoids, enlarged prostate, and many other diseases and conditions. Some marketers claim that colloidal silver is effective against hundreds of diseases. During 1998, a Florida-based multilevel company, stated: Our colloidal silver contains 99.99% pure silver particles suspended indefinitely in demineralized water that kills bacteria and viruses. It can beapplied topically and/or absorbed into the blood stream sub-lingually (underthe tongue), thereby avoiding the negative effects of traditional antibioticsthat kill good bacteria in the lower digestive tract. An all natural antibiotic alternative in the purest form available. The presence of colloidal silver near a virus, fungi, bacterium or any other single celled pathogen disables its oxygen-metabolism enzyme, its chemical lung, so to say. The pathogens suffocates and dies, and is cleared out of thebody by the immune, lymphatic and elimination systems. Unlike pharmaceutical antibiotics which destroy beneficial enzymes, colloidal silver leaves these beneficial enzymes intact. Thus colloidal silveris absolutely safe for humans, reptiles, plants and all multi-celled livingmatter. It is impossible for single-celled germs to mutate into silver-resistant forms, as happens with conventional antibiotics. Also, colloidal silver cannotinteract or interfere with other medicines being taken. Colloidal silver istruly a safe, natural remedy for many of mankind's ills. Colloidal silver canbe taken indefinitely because the body does not develop a tolerance to it[1] http://www.seasilver.com/Seasilver Intermational, a California-based multilevel company, claims that American are suffering from silver deficiency. Although silver is not an essential nutrient, product information posted on the company's Web site states: The depletion of minerals in our soil has left us deficient of silver, one of our most essential trace minerals, causing a drastic increase in immune system disorders in our society in the last decade. Research has taught us that all disease is allowed to manifest itself because of a weakened immunesystem. In over 20 years of worldwide research on Colloidal Silver, numerousinterviews with government agencies, health care practitioners and theirpatients, no other nutrient, herb or drug (prescription or over-the-counter)is as safe and effective against all known forms of unfriendly virus,bacteria, and fungus. Additionally, while it is generally known that mostantibiotics kill only perhaps 6 or 7 different disease organisms, reports haveshown that Colloidal Silver has been used successfully in the treatment ofover 650 diseases! Furthermore, strains of disease organisms fail to developin the presence of Colloidal Silver. Colloidal Silver's greatest attribute is its unique ability to function as a superior second immune system in the body![2] The ad below is from the July 1996 issue of Alternative Medicine Digest. Critical Studies In 1995, an herbal distributor named Leslie Taylor tested nine commonly marketed colloidal silver products available at health-food stores and concluded: * Two of the products were contaminated with microorganisms.* The amount of silver suspended in solution varied from product to product and would gradually decrease over time.* Only five products actually showed antibacterial activity in a laboratorytest. To perform the test, she prepared a culture plate with Staphylococcusaureas bacteria, which can cause infections in humans. She then placed a dropfrom each product on the plate and used disks of two common antibiotics as controls. After eight hours of incubation, she found that bacterial growth hadbeen inhibited around the antibiotics and four of the products. * Of course, the fact that a product inhibits bacteria in a laboratory culture
Re: CSNew
John, FEAR Ole Bob John L Maurath wrote: Really? You can make your own? Where do you buy the kit? Thanks. John
Re: CSDoes C/S have odor / taste????
Hi LFZBizLdy, Properly made CS of up to about 15 PPM (real ppm) is tasteless. If you have a bright T.E. it will taste lilke metal. If the T.E. is almost nonexistant the CS will ot taste. Ole Bob -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSFw: [Fwd: CSNew to Group--Help]
Yes John, It works, only that it is a little bit simple without any controls, which you can add. Ole Bob: -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSNew
Is it John? Stirring really helps distribute the ionic cloud away from the anode as the atoms are being released during production. If you can get them disbursed in the water with stirring, they tend not to agglomerate. It makes a much better product. It will be crystal clear with no color if you keep it under 15-20 PPM. Will also have a minimal Tyndall effect. Trem www.silvergen.com Constant Current Colloid Generators At 03:02 PM 7/9/00 -0500, you wrote: Is stirring necessary? JO\ohn; Make your own genterator, all you need is a DC power source, a digital multimeter, stirring motor, and two pieces of #14 sliver .999 or better and some clip leads. Contact me off list and I can probvide more detailed info. Ole Bob -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSColloidal Silver
But the opening of ones mouth from ego and without good backing of the facts, one can sure damage ones reputation fast. They know, however, that the majority of our population will never see through it. I find most people to be quite lazy and willing to be spoonfed the lies and drugs-- ---but then again, it is nice to trust our fellow humans---however, one day people will find out that even that assumption was incorrect. PG In a message dated 7/9/00 1:12:30 AM Central Daylight Time, dtmil...@midiowa.net writes: Yet Dr. Barrett spews forth opinions also without substantiation. For example, he mixes statements for silver preparations with colloidal silver -- hoping the reader will assume that they are the same (they aren't). He also ignores the scores of research reports in acknowledged scientific and medical publications that show the effectiveness of colloidal silver. The anecdotal research (about killing staph bacteria in petri dishes) he does cite is probably correct (but his opinion about the results is spurious) given that there is little quality control for retail colloidal silver products. If you make CS yourself, you can control your own quality. Then run your own tests (on plants, animals and yourself). Amen! I watch this going on all the time. They use to say herbs did nothing. They where useless. As soon as it became a little wider spread in their usage and help from them was recognized, then they say that they can interfere with the use of other drugs. That they are potent to us. Please oh wise people, make up your minds before you open your mouths. Do you not understand that your credibility is suffering? And when one then brings up that may medicines are derived from these plants and act much like them, what about the use by the medical profession of these together also, then you stand there looking stupid again. I am not saying that I don't respect them, I do when I see caring and good sense medicine. But the opening of ones mouth from ego and without good backing of the facts, one can sure damage ones reputation fast. Gene Downey -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSMake your own kefir: easy
Another great way to fight off yeast in a relatively short time is by taking a product(a chiropractor once introduced to me) called FORMULA SF22, by Thorne Research.The main ingrediant: 10-undecenoic acid(derived from castor bean oil) PG I make my own kefir. It's good for the colon and serves the same purpose as yogurt in fighting yeast infections. 1 qt. milk 1 pkg kefir starter from health food store (first time only) Heat the milk to 180F but do not boil. Cool it down to about 75F. Cover and let it sit out overnight or until it forms a curd. Chill in refrigerator to stop the action. Put the cold milk in the blender and add fruit or berries. Strawberries or peaches are good. I like it sweet, so I add a little corn syrup or fruit flavored syrup. Serve ice cold. Delicious and healthful. I save a cup of the curdled milk to use as a starter for the next run and avoid buying expensive starter. mama -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSwashing your vegetables in CS
Thanks Bob. I was using food-grade H2O2 for the removal of wax and pesticides. Now I see the necessity of CS for washing also---to kill off bacteria, fungus and viruses--an absolute MUST these days even if you grow your own!!! PG Pamela, Wash with plain water to remove pesticides etc., and soak in watermwith about 1 or 2 oz of CS for about 6 minutes. Ole Bob -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSNew
Is stirring necessary? JO\ohn; Make your own genterator, all you need is a DC power source, a digital multimeter, stirring motor, and two pieces of #14 sliver .999 or better and some clip leads. Contact me off list and I can probvide more detailed info. Ole Bob -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSDoes C/S have odor / taste????
What is T.E.? Hi LFZBizLdy, Properly made CS of up to about 15 PPM (real ppm) is tasteless. If you have a bright T.E. it will taste lilke metal. If the T.E. is almost nonexistant the CS will ot taste. Ole Bob -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CS3 batteries vs. mfgd. CS machines
Thanks Frances. On Sun, 09 Jul 2000 12:06:13 -0700 Trem t...@silvergen.com writes: Hello Frances, No it doesn't work as well as some manufactured generators. It does work however. Current control, voltage, stirring the mix, wetted depth of electrodes, electrode spacing, timing, temperature, amount of water used, type of water used and surface area of the electrodes all affect the outcome. You will have to exercise lots of control to end up with consistent batches of CS if you use 3 batteries or the equivalent in a manufactured generator. It is problematic to do it that way from the repeatability and end product results. You can make CS from the ridiculous to the sublime. Check us out for an different type alternative to home-made CS. Trem www.silvergen.com At 12:03 PM 7/9/00 -0500, you wrote: Does this process work as good as using an already-manufactured generator? Where do you buy the silver wires/rods? - Forwarded message -- From: Frances Mehner scha...@flash.net To: John L Maurath conla...@juno.com Date: Sun, 09 Jul 2000 09:41:30 -0600 Subject: [Fwd: CSNew to Group--Help] Message-ID: 39689d2a.3e953...@flash.net Received: from mx1.boston.juno.com (mx1.boston.juno.com [63.211.172.33]) by m12.boston.juno.com with SMTP id AAA6YTHLZAZSCY2S for conla...@juno.com (sender scha...@flash.net); Sun, 9 Jul 2000 11:42:15 -0400 (EST) Received: from mx2.jersey.juno.com (mx2.jersey.juno.com [209.67.33.111]) by mx1.boston.juno.com with SMTP id AAA6YTHLZAXBYMGA for conla...@juno.com (sender scha...@flash.net); Sun, 9 Jul 2000 11:42:15 -0400 (EST) Received: from ogopogo.flash.net (ogopogo.flash.net [209.30.2.14]) by mx2.jersey.juno.com with SMTP id AAA6YTHLUAXRYV7J for conla...@juno.com (sender scha...@flash.net); Sun, 9 Jul 2000 11:42:10 -0400 (EST) Received: from flash.net (p104-27.atnt1.dialup.abq1.flash.net [216.215.104.27]) by ogopogo.flash.net (8.9.3/Pro-8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA04104 for conla...@juno.com; Sun, 9 Jul 2000 10:42:08 -0500 (CDT) X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (Win98; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary=134BB1BB798FB1DD1DDA09AA Return-Path: scha...@flash.net X-Accept-Language: en From: Marsha Hallett liah...@pacbell.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 22:53:21 -0700 Subject: Re: CSNew to Group--Help Message-ID: 001301bfa8fa$682e0500$8334e...@default References: 001b01bfa4a3$c519f360$f8374...@kenhess Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com Received: from mx1.eskimo.com (mx1.eskimo.com [204.122.16.48]) by chupacabras.flash.net (8.9.3/Pro-8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA17304; Tue, 18 Apr 2000 00:54:51 -0500 (CDT) Received: (from smart...@localhost) by mx1.eskimo.com (8.9.1a/8.8.8) id WAA07866; Mon, 17 Apr 2000 22:53:34 -0700 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Resent-Message-ID: 3riZv3.0.jw1.TX_-u@mx1 Resent-Sender: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com X-Mailing-List: silver-list@eskimo.com archive/latest/21995 Resent-From: silver-list@eskimo.com X-Loop: silver-list@eskimo.com X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Resent-Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 22:53:34 -0700 Dear Hope, Hi! Here`s the CS making info for you. I sure hope CS helps you as well as it did me! Here`s how to make CS: You`ll need 3 nine-volt batteries, (if you can afford the Lithiums they last 4 times longer than the alkalines do.) 2 alligator clips, the ones with two clips on either end of a plastic coated wire, 2 sets actually, which you can buy at Radio Shack, 2 pieces of .999 fine silver wire, 14 gauge, 5 inches long, 2 cups of distilled water in a glass measuring cup. Now connect the batteries together, one snapped upside down onto the tops of the other two. This leaves two empty posts, a positive and a negative. Connect a clip to each post, and the other ends to the silver wires. Rinse the cup with distilled water to remove any dust or residue. Drop the wires into the distilled water, leaving the clips out of the water. Have the wires remain about one inch apart, with 4 inches in the water. They like to float around, so it can be a bit tricky. Some folks wrap theirs around a chopstick or pencil and balance that across the cup. A bend in the top of the wires works too. Don`t worry about being shocked, it doesn`t. Time for a half-hour, and check the wires. If you see bubbles forming on one wire, it is working! The golden clouds is the forming Colloid. After 45 minutes, wipe the black stuff off the wires. This is silver oxide from the oxygen released by the process. It is harmless, I understand, just
Re: CSNew
Okay. What is the Tyndall effect? All I could find is that Tyndall(John) was an Irish physicist. Also, where might one purchase a mechanism for stirring? Is it John? Stirring really helps distribute the ionic cloud away from the anode as the atoms are being released during production. If you can get them disbursed in the water with stirring, they tend not to agglomerate. It makes a much better product. It will be crystal clear with no color if you keep it under 15-20 PPM. Will also have a minimal Tyndall effect. Trem www.silvergen.com Constant Current Colloid Generators At 03:02 PM 7/9/00 -0500, you wrote: Is stirring necessary? JO\ohn; Make your own genterator, all you need is a DC power source, a digital multimeter, stirring motor, and two pieces of #14 sliver .999 or better and some clip leads. Contact me off list and I can probvide more detailed info. Ole Bob -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSNew
What's/where's FEAR? What does that stand for? Thanks, John On Sun, 09 Jul 2000 14:16:01 -0500 Robert L. Berger bober...@swbell.net writes: John, FEAR Ole Bob John L Maurath wrote: Really? You can make your own? Where do you buy the kit? Thanks. John YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSH2o2
I'm assuming that H202 is hydrogen peroxide, and I recently heard that using CS with intravenous HP is also a great remedy. A Dr.Mauer covers this (I believe) at his site at http://www.get-well.com but I believe the site is down for a few days. Is it okay to post web sites like this on this list? If not, then please forgive. I'm not promoting or selling the site, but I believe Dr. Mauer is one of us. :) He's one who also told me about CS. Please let me know about H202. Thanks. On Sun, 09 Jul 2000 09:42:21 +0200 Tony Moody a...@new.co.za writes: Lynn, Judith Thamm galing...@chariot.net.au Tony a...@new.co.za lfzbiz...@aol.com wrote: Dear Listers: I am looking for an answer from Judith Thamm, as I have a question about H2o2--I was reading one of her posts where she mentions it, but I need to know more, in order to consider getting some, as I have Lyme disease. One of the things I know the Lyme Spirochete hates and that definitely will kill it, is more oxygen in the blood. Can anyone direct me to Juith Thamm's e-mailaddress, or, if you can, give her mine, so I can e-mailher directly? Thanks, Lynn lfzbiz...@aol.com -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.
Re: CSSilver toxicity
I beleive Dr. Hulda Clark says that silver from fillings is bad in her book The Cure for all Diseases so I don't know. Katie Jay wrote: I am just getting ready to use colloidal silver for Lyme. My doctor also suggested I get rid of my mercury fillings. I am reading a book about mercury toxicity now and wonder if I should be concerned about this paragraph: A new study directed by the Scripps Institutes' K. Michael Pollard ...goes one step further. Using a new, silver-based alloy which is being proposed as a substitute filling material for mercury amalgam, Pollard showed that silver also has the capacity to generate a strong pathological immune-system response, and that silver, like mercury, migrates to body tissues within a very short period of time. In short, both mercury and silver have a negative impact on the immune system. In addition, their effect is intensified when both metals are present. ---The Mercury in Your Mouth, Quicksilver Associates Any thoughts? Thanks, Katie -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CS3 batteries vs. mfgd. CS machines
I bought a unit that was premade and it has 4 batteries in line and I remove it every 10-15 minutes and stir it. It has silver strips not wires. John L Maurath wrote: Thanks Frances. On Sun, 09 Jul 2000 12:06:13 -0700 Trem t...@silvergen.com writes: Hello Frances, No it doesn't work as well as some manufactured generators. It does work however. Current control, voltage, stirring the mix, wetted depth of electrodes, electrode spacing, timing, temperature, amount of water used, type of water used and surface area of the electrodes all affect the outcome. You will have to exercise lots of control to end up with consistent batches of CS if you use 3 batteries or the equivalent in a manufactured generator. It is problematic to do it that way from the repeatability and end product results. You can make CS from the ridiculous to the sublime. Check us out for an different type alternative to home-made CS. Trem www.silvergen.com At 12:03 PM 7/9/00 -0500, you wrote: Does this process work as good as using an already-manufactured generator? Where do you buy the silver wires/rods? - Forwarded message -- From: Frances Mehner scha...@flash.net To: John L Maurath conla...@juno.com Date: Sun, 09 Jul 2000 09:41:30 -0600 Subject: [Fwd: CSNew to Group--Help] Message-ID: 39689d2a.3e953...@flash.net Received: from mx1.boston.juno.com (mx1.boston.juno.com [63.211.172.33]) by m12.boston.juno.com with SMTP id AAA6YTHLZAZSCY2S for conla...@juno.com (sender scha...@flash.net); Sun, 9 Jul 2000 11:42:15 -0400 (EST) Received: from mx2.jersey.juno.com (mx2.jersey.juno.com [209.67.33.111]) by mx1.boston.juno.com with SMTP id AAA6YTHLZAXBYMGA for conla...@juno.com (sender scha...@flash.net); Sun, 9 Jul 2000 11:42:15 -0400 (EST) Received: from ogopogo.flash.net (ogopogo.flash.net [209.30.2.14]) by mx2.jersey.juno.com with SMTP id AAA6YTHLUAXRYV7J for conla...@juno.com (sender scha...@flash.net); Sun, 9 Jul 2000 11:42:10 -0400 (EST) Received: from flash.net (p104-27.atnt1.dialup.abq1.flash.net [216.215.104.27]) by ogopogo.flash.net (8.9.3/Pro-8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA04104 for conla...@juno.com; Sun, 9 Jul 2000 10:42:08 -0500 (CDT) X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (Win98; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary=134BB1BB798FB1DD1DDA09AA Return-Path: scha...@flash.net X-Accept-Language: en From: Marsha Hallett liah...@pacbell.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 22:53:21 -0700 Subject: Re: CSNew to Group--Help Message-ID: 001301bfa8fa$682e0500$8334e...@default References: 001b01bfa4a3$c519f360$f8374...@kenhess Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com Received: from mx1.eskimo.com (mx1.eskimo.com [204.122.16.48]) by chupacabras.flash.net (8.9.3/Pro-8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA17304; Tue, 18 Apr 2000 00:54:51 -0500 (CDT) Received: (from smart...@localhost) by mx1.eskimo.com (8.9.1a/8.8.8) id WAA07866; Mon, 17 Apr 2000 22:53:34 -0700 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: list X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Resent-Message-ID: 3riZv3.0.jw1.TX_-u@mx1 Resent-Sender: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com X-Mailing-List: silver-list@eskimo.com archive/latest/21995 Resent-From: silver-list@eskimo.com X-Loop: silver-list@eskimo.com X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Resent-Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 22:53:34 -0700 Dear Hope, Hi! Here`s the CS making info for you. I sure hope CS helps you as well as it did me! Here`s how to make CS: You`ll need 3 nine-volt batteries, (if you can afford the Lithiums they last 4 times longer than the alkalines do.) 2 alligator clips, the ones with two clips on either end of a plastic coated wire, 2 sets actually, which you can buy at Radio Shack, 2 pieces of .999 fine silver wire, 14 gauge, 5 inches long, 2 cups of distilled water in a glass measuring cup. Now connect the batteries together, one snapped upside down onto the tops of the other two. This leaves two empty posts, a positive and a negative. Connect a clip to each post, and the other ends to the silver wires. Rinse the cup with distilled water to remove any dust or residue. Drop the wires into the distilled water, leaving the clips out of the water. Have the wires remain about one inch apart, with 4 inches in the water. They like to float around, so it can be a bit tricky. Some folks wrap theirs around a chopstick or pencil and balance that across the cup. A bend in the top of the wires works too. Don`t worry about being shocked, it doesn`t. Time for a half-hour, and check the
Re: CSH2o2
I will be sure to share this info. Lynn -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSheavy metals
Dear Helen, You are asking a question that all of us have had to face: are we going to close our minds to evidence or are we going to keep our minds open and learn? This is a dilemma we have all faced. This is when you face the fact that others whom you have respected as all-knowing are only pretty good at diagnosing or using only part of the arsenal available to fight illness and have feet of clay when it comes to looking outside the square. Why tell? Keep your knowledge discrete. Regurgitate that which is required to achieve standard recognition for your exams - don't rock the boat. Keep your personal standards higher; try NOT to confide in a 'best friend' - [disastrous!] - let the list be your outlet. A friend who practices alternatives says her M.D. is convenient - it opens doors so she can get in and do real work. Judith. [Older and wiser now.] In a message dated 7/7/00 8:18:34 AM Pacific Daylight Time, silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com writes: Re: CSheavy metal Hi, I have just started IV chelation therapy and didn't tell them that I was doing CS because I thought they would tell me to quit the CS but on the list it is noted that CS is not a heavy metal. Do you people think I should be doing both? Regards, Mary -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCandida
Perhaps I'm a little older than you married 35 years this year. From arguing against my ideas, my poor hen-pecked long suffering spouse [I'd love him to see that phrase - he'd probably agree!] is now an ardent convert. Talks to everyone about the concealed evils in our foods etc. Good luck! Judith. You are a genius- why did'nt I think of that? I make distilled water for my husband and it would be no problem to put CS right in the water. He keeps it in fridge, but should be better than none at all. Will wait until we get back from trip we're taking next week, as don't want to risk his driving the motor home in NC mountains and possibly experiencing herx reaction. Can't wait to try this brilliant idea. Glad he doens't read this list! I do make my own CS Nancy -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSOT: Allergies
Do you know how many grams of MSM you are taking a day? Thanks, Christy In a message dated 7/7/00 9:43:40 AM Pacific Daylight Time, epmoon5...@aol.com writes: Subj: Re: CSOT: Allergies Date: 7/7/00 9:43:40 AM Pacific Daylight Time From: epmoon5...@aol.com Reply-to: silver-list@eskimo.com To:silver-list@eskimo.com HI. I have been able to stop taking Claritin prescription drug for about 3 months now. I have had severe allergy to sunshine, makes a itchie rash. Bug bites that last and itch for a week. Have not been brave enough to try citrus fruit, it puts me to bed with sneezing and a water spout for a nose. I have been on MSM for 3 months. Am now taking about 3heaping teaspoons a day hoping it will stop herniated disk pain in upper back. Its certinaly worth a try. Very inexpenseive, though has a bitter taste. Betty Ft. Lauderdale -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSThanks for the Lyme info
In a message dated 7/7/00 1:57:39 PM Pacific Daylight Time, mayj...@javanet.com writes: I have been reading the government and health sites on the net. don't trust the government info. Focus on other non-governement info. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSH2o2
Lynn, Please share what you learn from Judith Thamm with us! Thanks, Katie -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSLyme Disease
In a message dated 7/7/00 5:53:38 PM Pacific Daylight Time, liah...@pacbell.net writes: Hi Marsha, Did you have TMJ? Thanks, Christy Dear Rob, Three days. I first noticed I could shut my jaw for the first time in months. The joints also eased up, and by a week, my mind was clearing and I could speak coherently! What a blessing CS has been! Marsha PS, Is it hot and muggy in Memphis? -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSOh, just what I needed...
Dear Marsha, Why 'soon to be' make it instant - unless you are planning a subtle revenge - cayenne in the underwear or the like..? Take some apricot kernels as well - I knew about their actions already, but it is interesting to see they are part of the therapy used by www.worlwithoutcancer.com - they give a good explanation there. Print out the 41 page booklet. Judith. I just found out my wonderful soon-to-be-ex has given me the gift that keeps on giving... I have HPV, or Human Papilloma Virus, an STD, which causes cervical cancer. I do have cell changes in this, the second, Pap smear. I`m gonna shoot some good old CS up there, and see what happens! I`ll keep you all posted... Marsha, still in Vallejo. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSSilver toxicity
Hi Devnull; It is not the silver that is the problem it is the mercury that is used to make the amalgam for the filling. Ole Bob -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSSilver toxicity
I am just getting ready to use colloidal silver for Lyme. My doctor also suggested I get rid of my mercury fillings. I am reading a book about mercury toxicity now and wonder if I should be concerned about this paragraph: A new study directed by the Scripps Institutes' K. Michael Pollard ...goes one step further. Using a new, silver-based alloy which is being proposed as a substitute filling material for mercury amalgam, Pollard showed that silver also has the capacity to generate a strong pathological immune-system response, and that silver, like mercury, migrates to body tissues within a very short period of time. In short, both mercury and silver have a negative impact on the immune system. In addition, their effect is intensified when both metals are present. ---The Mercury in Your Mouth, Quicksilver Associates Any thoughts? Thanks, Katie -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSMake your own kefir: easy
In a message dated 07/09/2000 16:41:35 Central Daylight Time, ejohns9...@aol.com writes: _ When do you put the starter in?? Heat the milk to 180F but do not boil. Cool it down to about 75F. SORRY. ADD A PACKAGE OF KEFIR STARTER TO A LITTLE OF THE MILK AND POUR IT INTO THE REST OF THE MILK. Cover and let it sit out overnight or until it forms a curd. Chill in refrigerator to stop the action. Put the cold milk in the blender and add fruit or berries. Strawberries or peaches are good. I like it sweet, so I add a little corn syrup or fruit flavored syrup. Serve ice cold. Delicious and healthful. I save a cup of the curdled milk to use as a starter for the next run and avoid buying expensive starter. I AM EXPERIMENTING. I JUST RAN A BATCH USING THE CUP OF CURDLED MILK AND IN NO TIME HAD A CUP OF DELICIOUS COTTAGE CHEESE. I STRAINED OFF THE LIQUID, THIS TIME ADDING RENNET THIS TIME, AND SET IT TO CURDLE. WE'LL SEE WHAT HAPPENS. IF YOU WANT TO PLAY IT SAFE FOLLOW THE DIRECTIONS ON THE KEFIR STARTER PACKAGE. AS FOR ME, I LIKE TO LIVE DANGEROUSLY. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSNew
Hi Pam; You can get a stirrer for nothing at Mc Donald's one of those long spoon. Doesn't have to be stirred constantly just keep it in motion . Bob Pamela Grant wrote: Okay. What is the Tyndall effect? All I could find is that Tyndall(John) was an Irish physicist. Also, where might one purchase a mechanism for stirring? Is it John? Stirring really helps distribute the ionic cloud away from the anode as the atoms are being released during production. If you can get them disbursed in the water with stirring, they tend not to agglomerate. It makes a much better product. It will be crystal clear with no color if you keep it under 15-20 PPM. Will also have a minimal Tyndall effect. Trem www.silvergen.com Constant Current Colloid Generators At 03:02 PM 7/9/00 -0500, you wrote: Is stirring necessary? JO\ohn; Make your own genterator, all you need is a DC power source, a digital multimeter, stirring motor, and two pieces of #14 sliver .999 or better and some clip leads. Contact me off list and I can probvide more detailed info. Ole Bob -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSLyme Disease
Hi Marsha, Did you have TMJ? Thanks, Christy Dear Christy, well the jaw joint was swollen and sore from Lyme, I guess you could call it TMJ! CS sure fixed it. Marsha -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSOh, just what I needed...
Dear Marsha, Why 'soon to be' make it instant - unless you are planning a subtle revenge - cayenne in the underwear or the like..? Take some apricot kernels as well - I knew about their actions already, but it is interesting to see they are part of the therapy used by www.worlwithoutcancer.com - they give a good explanation there. Print out the 41 page booklet. Judith. Dear Judith, The divorce is in progress. He lives in Arkansas with his new lady love. gnashing teeth She is 6 years older than he is!! Go figure... I have been contemplating the joy of sending him a cake with some aspirin ground up in it, to which he is really allergic! But... I`m not going to sink to his level. The Good Lord will take care of his comeuppance! I don`t know for sure if I do have cervical cancer, will find out when they do the colposcopy later this month. If I do, I want a hysterectomy! Fast! (before the insurance runs out...) Marsha Marsha -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSNew
Hi List, Not to argue with you Ken but our auto shutoff generator makes crystal clear CS up to 20-25 PPM as measured with a Hanna PWT using the mechanical stirring motor we have incorporated into our newest generator. The CS does not get any color and has an almost imperceptible Tyndall effect. And it's a lot easier than having to heat water or rig up some kind of thermal hot plate. Most people aren't up for that. Many experimenter types are but I think most people aren't. And, cooling water that has been heated is really problematic. What about people that live in cold or warm houses? How hot is hot to start with. How cool does it have to get before thermal currents cease to help, etc. If we're looking for repeatability and ease of use, a motor with a constant stirring speed and a constant current regulator with auto shutoff is about as good as you can get with LVDC process. Sorry to toot our own horn but that's how I see it. Trem www.silvergen.com Constant Current Colloid Generators At 09:44 PM 7/9/00 -0700, you wrote: While mechanical stirring does seem to get very good results, thermal stirring via convection currents helps a lot and is a lot simpler. Either preheat the water to 80 -100 degrees and let cool while running the generator, or start with room temp water and place it on a small heater such as a 4 watt night light bulb. Letting hot water cool while in process tends to give that light Tyndal Effect but limits the max concentration [with my auto off unit] to about 8-9 PPM as read by a PPM meter. Check out www.colloidal-silver.com and click on the merchants directory for a fairly complete list of generator makers. The only one I recommend against is the last...Utopia They are very proud of the brown sludge their generator makes for some reason. They use 3 nine volt batteries, 2 silver rods and nothing else. I think they recommend using sea salt as well. A no no. With their set up, there's also a possibility of getting some lead and tin into the mix as the wires have exposed solder on the ends. Not extremely likely, but possible. You can do something similar for a lot less. You can make fairly good CS with such a unit but it takes a lot of care and experimentation. I doubt you will be able to go stronger than 3 to 5 PPM without making yellow to brown colored CS. k...@czen At 03:28 PM 7/9/00 -0500, you wrote: Okay. What is the Tyndall effect? All I could find is that Tyndall(John) was an Irish physicist. Also, where might one purchase a mechanism for stirring? Is it John? Stirring really helps distribute the ionic cloud away from the anode as the atoms are being released during production. If you can get them disbursed in the water with stirring, they tend not to agglomerate. It makes a much better product. It will be crystal clear with no color if you keep it under 15-20 PPM. Will also have a minimal Tyndall effect. Trem www.silvergen.com Constant Current Colloid Generators At 03:02 PM 7/9/00 -0500, you wrote: Is stirring necessary? JO\ohn; Make your own genterator, all you need is a DC power source, a digital multimeter, stirring motor, and two pieces of #14 sliver .999 or better and some clip leads. Contact me off list and I can probvide more detailed info. Ole Bob -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com Tired of buying questionable qaulity colloidal silver at high heathfood store prices? Make your own high quality Colloidal Silver at home with this automatic process, current controlled colloidal silver generator. http://www.silverpuppy.com
Re: CSNew
What is LVDC? John On Sun, 09 Jul 2000 19:02:51 -0700 Trem t...@silvergen.com writes: Hi List, Not to argue with you Ken but our auto shutoff generator makes crystal clear CS up to 20-25 PPM as measured with a Hanna PWT using the mechanical stirring motor we have incorporated into our newest generator. The CS does not get any color and has an almost imperceptible Tyndall effect. And it's a lot easier than having to heat water or rig up some kind of thermal hot plate. Most people aren't up for that. Many experimenter types are but I think most people aren't. And, cooling water that has been heated is really problematic. What about people that live in cold or warm houses? How hot is hot to start with. How cool does it have to get before thermal currents cease to help, etc. If we're looking for repeatability and ease of use, a motor with a constant stirring speed and a constant current regulator with auto shutoff is about as good as you can get with LVDC process. Sorry to toot our own horn but that's how I see it. Trem www.silvergen.com Constant Current Colloid Generators At 09:44 PM 7/9/00 -0700, you wrote: While mechanical stirring does seem to get very good results, thermal stirring via convection currents helps a lot and is a lot simpler. Either preheat the water to 80 -100 degrees and let cool while running the generator, or start with room temp water and place it on a small heater such as a 4 watt night light bulb. Letting hot water cool while in process tends to give that light Tyndal Effect but limits the max concentration [with my auto off unit] to about 8-9 PPM as read by a PPM meter. Check out www.colloidal-silver.com and click on the merchants directory for a fairly complete list of generator makers. The only one I recommend against is the last...Utopia They are very proud of the brown sludge their generator makes for some reason. They use 3 nine volt batteries, 2 silver rods and nothing else. I think they recommend using sea salt as well. A no no. With their set up, there's also a possibility of getting some lead and tin into the mix as the wires have exposed solder on the ends. Not extremely likely, but possible. You can do something similar for a lot less. You can make fairly good CS with such a unit but it takes a lot of care and experimentation. I doubt you will be able to go stronger than 3 to 5 PPM without making yellow to brown colored CS. k...@czen At 03:28 PM 7/9/00 -0500, you wrote: Okay. What is the Tyndall effect? All I could find is that Tyndall(John) was an Irish physicist. Also, where might one purchase a mechanism for stirring? Is it John? Stirring really helps distribute the ionic cloud away from the anode as the atoms are being released during production. If you can get them disbursed in the water with stirring, they tend not to agglomerate. It makes a much better product. It will be crystal clear with no color if you keep it under 15-20 PPM. Will also have a minimal Tyndall effect. Trem www.silvergen.com Constant Current Colloid Generators At 03:02 PM 7/9/00 -0500, you wrote: Is stirring necessary? JO\ohn; Make your own genterator, all you need is a DC power source, a digital multimeter, stirring motor, and two pieces of #14 sliver .999 or better and some clip leads. Contact me off list and I can probvide more detailed info. Ole Bob -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com Tired of buying questionable qaulity colloidal silver at high heathfood store prices? Make your own high quality Colloidal Silver at home with this automatic process, current controlled colloidal silver generator. http://www.silverpuppy.com YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.
Re: CSOT: Allergies - herniated disc
Hi Judith, On Sun, 9 Jul 2000 14:46:02 +0930, Judith Thamm galing...@chariot.net.au wrote: Digressing - herniated discs respond to hanging by your arms from an overhead bar for 5 seconds 3 times a day until the disc returns to its proper position, if you don't have a thing like I have. I have a Disc-Ease machine [nci] in my office [it has long protruding feet]. Made by C W Products, 89-91 Canterbury Road, Kilsyth. Victoria, Australia 3137. One thing I discovered (through the use of various friends who've had/have back problems) is that associated with almost all of the disc problems is an infection. I accidently cured (in 10 minutes) a back problem I had been having for several weeks (had to walk bent over, etc.) when I used the Zapper (Clark's) for a sinus condition that was re-developing (you notice that I hadn't used the Zapper -- nor CS -- for several weeks). I loaned a Zapper to a friend with major, long term (years) back problems and 90% of his pain disappeared -- he now has his own Zapper and uses CS sporadically. Another friend has had several of the verterbra(sp?) in his back fused, and was still in pain. A Zapper loan stopped all of his pain. I'm not entirely sure the origin of the back pains were really in the back, but might be reflections from somewhere else in the body that's infected. But whatever it is, the Zapper worked (and CS now seems to be keeping the back pain away). -- Dean -- from (almost) Duh Moines (CDP, KB0ZDF) -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSSilver toxicity
Hi Katie, On Sun, 9 Jul 2000 17:13:43 -0700, Katie Jay kj...@erols.com wrote: I am just getting ready to use colloidal silver for Lyme. My doctor also suggested I get rid of my mercury fillings. I am reading a book about mercury toxicity now and wonder if I should be concerned about this paragraph: You're doctor's right about the mercury amalgam fillings. He should have mentioned teeth with root canals, too -- have them pulled (there is infection in the capillaries of the teeth that root canals don't get rid of). A new study directed by the Scripps Institutes' K. Michael Pollard ...goes one step further. Using a new, silver-based alloy which is being proposed as a substitute filling material for mercury amalgam, Pollard showed that silver also has the capacity to generate a strong pathological immune-system response, and that silver, like mercury, migrates to body tissues within a very short period of time. In short, both mercury and silver have a negative impact on the immune system. In addition, their effect is intensified when both metals are present. The problem is that the filling is an *alloy* of silver. That means silver and something else. It's the something-else that's the problem. Elemental silver is non-toxic according to all the sources I've been able to find. Silver -- by itself -- won't even turn your skin a bluish hue (argyria). It takes a silver compound to do that. (Colloidal silver isn't made with an alloy of silver, such as sterling silver. It's made with 99.9% pure silver or better.) -- Dean -- from (almost) Duh Moines (CDP, KB0ZDF) -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSNew
While mechanical stirring does seem to get very good results, thermal stirring via convection currents helps a lot and is a lot simpler. Either preheat the water to 80 -100 degrees and let cool while running the generator, or start with room temp water and place it on a small heater such as a 4 watt night light bulb. Letting hot water cool while in process tends to give that light Tyndal Effect but limits the max concentration [with my auto off unit] to about 8-9 PPM as read by a PPM meter. Check out www.colloidal-silver.com and click on the merchants directory for a fairly complete list of generator makers. The only one I recommend against is the last...Utopia They are very proud of the brown sludge their generator makes for some reason. They use 3 nine volt batteries, 2 silver rods and nothing else. I think they recommend using sea salt as well. A no no. With their set up, there's also a possibility of getting some lead and tin into the mix as the wires have exposed solder on the ends. Not extremely likely, but possible. You can do something similar for a lot less. You can make fairly good CS with such a unit but it takes a lot of care and experimentation. I doubt you will be able to go stronger than 3 to 5 PPM without making yellow to brown colored CS. k...@czen At 03:28 PM 7/9/00 -0500, you wrote: Okay. What is the Tyndall effect? All I could find is that Tyndall(John) was an Irish physicist. Also, where might one purchase a mechanism for stirring? Is it John? Stirring really helps distribute the ionic cloud away from the anode as the atoms are being released during production. If you can get them disbursed in the water with stirring, they tend not to agglomerate. It makes a much better product. It will be crystal clear with no color if you keep it under 15-20 PPM. Will also have a minimal Tyndall effect. Trem www.silvergen.com Constant Current Colloid Generators At 03:02 PM 7/9/00 -0500, you wrote: Is stirring necessary? JO\ohn; Make your own genterator, all you need is a DC power source, a digital multimeter, stirring motor, and two pieces of #14 sliver .999 or better and some clip leads. Contact me off list and I can probvide more detailed info. Ole Bob -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com Tired of buying questionable qaulity colloidal silver at high heathfood store prices? Make your own high quality Colloidal Silver at home with this automatic process, current controlled colloidal silver generator. http://www.silverpuppy.com
Re: CSNew
F.E.A.R. False Evidence Appearing Real At 03:32 PM 7/9/00 -0500, you wrote: What's/where's FEAR? What does that stand for? Thanks, John On Sun, 09 Jul 2000 14:16:01 -0500 Robert L. Berger bober...@swbell.net writes: John, FEAR Ole Bob John L Maurath wrote: Really? You can make your own? Where do you buy the kit? Thanks. John YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
