Re: CS and the meat you eat

2000-08-01 Thread Judith Thamm
Ok you kids - this is Grandma speaking!  Stop upsetting Frances!  I've
sent the answer, Frances.

My beautiful new granddaughter Emily Mae, 1 weeks and two days old
slept in my arms for an hour yesterday while I visited.  Then I passed
her back to my son.

Hang on, house rules here!  Whoever is holding the baby
when...changes her! It didn't work. ;) - I just said Father's
privilege!

Judith.

 Judith, how long do you soak your meat?  Thanks.  These guys are
making
 fun of my response, but I still haven't gotten an answer.  Thanks.
:)

 Judith Thamm wrote:
 
  I soak any 'out of use by date meat in CS - highly diluted and
have
  never got sick - worst was 2 weeks old meat I'd forgotten.
 
  I always bathe chicken in CS on principle.  Both my sons worked
for a
  time at a chicken processing factory - one got mono nucleosis and
  almost died and the other caught something else and to be
hospitalised
  too.
 
  I NEVER eat UN-CS chicken!
  Judith.
 



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Re: CSDHEA

2000-08-01 Thread Judith Thamm
The silica tissue salts are most important with any lung problem and
helps any elderly person in the recovery of health.
Judith.

 Dear Bob,
 My MOM was really sick, I diagnosed her with a pneumonia and
pleuritis
 (chronic) She suffered this disease for about 3 years (The
pleuritis) and
 she never complained, but the complication with pneumonia produced
very
 alarming symptoms. I made an X-Ray picture of the lungs showing the
problem.
 Gave her antibiotics, and non steroids anti-inflammatory medicine.
She
 improved say 70% but the symptoms remained.
 I gave her Cell Food (The complete kit) the concentrated, the
multivitamins
 the silica, and the DHEA formulas.
 In two days the pain gone, she started to breath really well and...
her gray
 hair was transforming in black hair, it started to grow again (she
had
 allopecia), the skin at hands was without wrinkles, same the face.
she
 started to move and walk and to EAT (The last 2 years she ate really
poor)
 she felt energetic and start to walk around the corner (right now
she walks
 3 miles daily) Her age 85 years old. I repeated the X Rays; No signs
of the
 lung problem, and the bad breath (You cannot talk with her because
she had a
 very strong halitosis) disappeared. The miracle was made with all of
this,
 but the results were accelerated or consolidated with the use of
Cell Food.
 Just my report.
 Alex Torres M.D.
 P.S. I have a non-profit clinic in Tijuana and Mexicali for the
treatment of
 Cancer and AIDS, and we get some fiduciary help selling Cell Food
and other
 anti-cancer natural compounds. If interested please follow all the
links and
 go to:

http://www.healthmall.com/www/Shop/Index.cfm?s=169FuseAction=TermsOfS
ervice
 Is in Spanish, but look for the English word for a more deep
explanation.
 other link: if this do not work)

http://www.geocities.com/HotSprings/Falls/7388/cinco/descripcion_en_de
talle.
 htm#2


 -Original Message-
 From: Bob Squires [mailto:rj...@dialnet.net]
 Sent: Friday, July 28, 2000 12:30 PM
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Subject: Re: CSDHEA


 Marshal;
 I received some info quite some time ago and if I
remember right
 it was some
 kind of silver protein with some additives in it ,not pure CS.
 Bob

 Marshall Dudley wrote:

  I just received The Micro Silver Bullet, and in it Dr. Paul
Farber
 discusses DHEA.
  He says blocks cancer and cardiovascular disease and it retards
aging.
 
  Anyone here have any experience with it?  I had never heard of it
before.
 
  Thanks,
 
  Marshall
 
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Re: CSZappers?

2000-08-01 Thread Dean T. Miller
Hi Jeff,

On Mon, 31 Jul 2000 22:34:23 -0700, Jeffrey A. Madore
k...@uconect.net wrote:

Are there any zappers on list. 

Absolutely!!

 I just built a unit and am wondering what to expect and how long it
 should take to see any results. I have chronic Lyme.

Depends on what you built.  Use a 12-volt battery (or wall-wart), not
the 9-volt.  Much more effective.

I've been zapping for 30minutes, 2x per day, for the last three days. 

Use it for an hour, 3 times daily for the first 3 or 4 days.  Drink
lots of water.

I've been using dimes for electrodes, taped to my anckles, 
and I get a few small burn marks from them. 

I'll bet you did!  :)

Dimes are wy too small.  You need a much larger contact area so
the electricity doesn't flow through such a small area provided by a
dime.

Standard Zapper (and I assume we're talking about Hulda Clark's Zapper
that produces square wave pulses) electrodes are 1 inch diameter
pieces of copper pipe about 5 inches long.  Hold one firmly in each
hand for 7 minutes, rest for 20 minutes, hold for 7 minutes, rest for
20 minutes and hold again for 7 minutes.  That's what makes up one
session.

The reason Clark gives for this hold/rest sequence is that each 7
minute Zap will kill the parasites the electric pulses can get to.  As
the larger parasites die (worms, fungus, bacteria) they can release
the next smaller level of parasites (IOW, fungus can have bacteria as
parasites, bacteria can have viruses as parasites).  She determined
(guessed?  experimented?) that 20 minutes is sufficient for the next
level of parasite to be released.  So, the 3 sets of 7 minute Zaps are
there to kill all levels of parasites.

The extra water you drink is to help flush the dead beasties out of
your body.  Some people may have a reaction to the sudden, additional
load of dead beasties (the Herx reaction) and feel like they have
the flu, or get a rash, headache, etc.  I didn't have any noticable
reaction, but I guess my infection, though severe, was in a very
limited area (and I didn't have a large volume of infection).

-- Dean -- from (almost) Duh Moines  (CDP, KB0ZDF)


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Re: CSZappers?

2000-08-01 Thread Tony Moody
Dear Jeff,
Allow bare metal to carry the zapper electricity to your skin will cause very
high currents to flow into points on your skin. This can result in burns which
take a few months to heal. I think that this is due to metal poisoning at the
injury
Please cover the metal with cloth dampened in salt water or dampened with ECG
gel, which is silver/silver chloride based.

CS works very well with the zappers. Seems to decrease or eliminate detox
reactions.
Tony

 Jeffrey A. Madore wrote:
 
 Are there any zappers on list. I just built a unit and am wondering what to
 expect and how long it should take to see any results. I have chronic Lyme.
 
 I've been zapping for 30minutes, 2x per day, for the last three days. I've
 been using dimes for electrodes, taped to my anckles, and I get a few small
 burn marks from them. Any advice would be appreciated.
 
 Is this a good thing to combine with CS?
 
 Thank you,
 Jeff
 
 




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Re: CS and the meat you eat

2000-08-01 Thread Harvey Flatbush
Excuse the priority but since this has become a drawn out thread, I wanted 
to draw your attention to this.


Harv

At 04:15 PM 7/27/00 +0930, you wrote:

I soak any 'out of use by date meat in CS - highly diluted and have
never got sick - worst was 2 weeks old meat I'd forgotten.

I always bathe chicken in CS on principle.  Both my sons worked for a
time at a chicken processing factory - one got mono nucleosis and
almost died and the other caught something else and to be hospitalised
too.

I NEVER eat UN-CS chicken!
Judith.


It seems to me that a CS water bath would only kill germs on the exterior 
portion of the meat.  If the meat is truly diseased the bath would leave 
the interior meat untouched.
One way I can think of to remedy this problem would be with a Tilia Food 
Saver vacuum sealer.


One of the optional accessaries is a large acrylic canister with a special 
lid that you hook a piece of tubing to and then to the sealer itself. Slice 
open the meaty portions of the chicken or whatever kind of meat, place  in 
the canister and cover with your CS solution.  Place the lid on the 
canister, apply the vacuum and release the vacuum three or four times.The 
vacuum opens up the inner pores of the meat and releasing the vacuum causes 
the meat to suck in the CS solution.  This is the same technique 
recommended for speed marinating meat.


Harvey


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CSLOLs

2000-08-01 Thread Philip I. Marie Sr.
Hi All;

What a great list for those interested in CS as I have been for years. I'm a true believer from first hand experience.
I do a lot of reading, and when some one mentioned meat  CS I quoted Wayne Green, who unfortunately came under attack. What I have learned through my many years on this planet is *nothing is impossible* and life holds many surprises. Yes, I take everything that Wayne Green says, seriously. Of course his past deeds may have me a bit jaded. Could we please see his detractors credentials. ;-)



Here's My Been-There, Done-That Bragging List

Wayne Green's been-there done-that brag list, I've..
piloted a nuclear attack submarine 800 feet under the Pacific ocean-*piloted an Air Force C5B (it's like a 747)-climbed the Great Wall of China-visited the Chinese terra cotta army in Xian --operated a hmn station from the famed American Embassy in Tehran-operated from the Korean DW **operated for two weeks from King's Hussein's palace in Amman, Jordan -visited the lost city of Petra in Jordan, and cities from lrbid in the north to Aqaba in the so...@uba dived in the Red Sea with the admiral of the Jordanian Navy-visited 140 countries (so far)-helped new technologies such as cellular telephones, personal computers, and compact discs grow to industries -represented the US at an International Telecommunications Union conference (ITU in Geneva)-represented New Hampshire for Governor Sununu at a governor's conference in Halifax served on the New Hampshire Economic Development Commission -while president of the Peterborough NH Chamber of Commerce expanded membership by five times--served on the board of directors of the billion-dollar IDG corporation (Computerworld) -been a professional psychologist

*-had over 1,000 magazine articles published-so @started first digital communications magazine in 1951 (Amateur Radio Frontiers)-started the first microcomputer magazine (,Rvte). **Started the first computer magazine devoted to a single computer (80 Micro - for the TRS-80)@@ the first Apple magazine (InCider)@tarted the first Commodore magazine (Run)*tarted the first laptop computer magazine (Pico)-ntarted one of the first personal computer software companies (Instant Software)--opened computer software stores-eventually sold a national chain of 58 stores-while in college started a broadcasting station (WRPI) which is now the largest student activity-served on the Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute Board of Overseers and RPI Council --served as the First Executive in Residence at RPI-wrved as a consultant for the RPI Business Incubator- which won the 1996 prize as the best in the country--been an active amateur radio operator as W2NSD since 1938 -pioneered amateur radio repeaters since 1969, starting with WR I AAB on ML Monadnock NH-established amateur radio in Jordan in 1970 and wrote their rules and regulafions-supplied and installed the first repeater in Jordan, JY73, in 19173-Prince Raad said I'd had more of an influence on Jordan than anyone other than the @ ng-helped radio amateurs pioneer NBFM, radio Teletype, single sideband, and slow scan TV-bounced amateur radio signals off the Moon from the big dish at the Arecibo Ionospheric Observatory,

PR--been editing and publishing amateur radio magazines for 49 years-built a state-of-the-art digital recording studio-four record labels and produced over 150 CDs-helped re-popularize ragtime music @ personally know all of the top ragtime performers--started 25 successful publications in the radio, computerand music ficlds-published over 100 books-N%,n'tten and published one of the first books on digital communications *gam'zed an all ham African hunting safari in northern Kenya--visited the ruins of Ba'albek in Lebanon and the Queen of Sheba's water catchments in Aden-visited the Pyramids, the Sphynx, the ruins in Athens, the Taj Mahal and Katmandu -visited the headhunter longhouses in Sarawak-lead trade groups of up to 280 people to yearly electronic shows in Japan, Korea, Taiwan and Hong Kong-given keynote addresses at radio, educational, computer, and music conferences-helped invent a new kind of loud speaker -borrowed $ 1,000 on my car to start a manufacturing company and within two and a half years it became the largest speaker manufacturer in the country with seven factories-- performed the lead part in The Mikado and Pirates of Penzance in high school @rved as president of radio club,% in high school and coll...@rved in Navy 1942-1946 in WWII -electronic technician on USS Drum SS-228 (which is on display at Mobile, Alabama) for five war patrols (1943)-been a radio engineer and announcer in North Carolina, Florida and Virginia-been chief carneraman at WPIX-TV (I 1) in NYC uced and directed network TV shows at KBTV in Dallas and WXEL in Cleveland-a reputation as a gourmet cook-wrved as president of Pofsche Club of Amelica-=W my Pbrsches on the Ntirburgring and Solitude mm tracks in 

Re: CSLOLs

2000-08-01 Thread Marshall Dudley
Wow!  That is impressive.  I don't see how anyone could do that much in one 
lifetime.  Is it all in this lifetime, or is he counting past lives as well?

Marshall

Philip I. Marie Sr. wrote:

 Hi All;

 What a great list for those interested in CS as I have been for years. I'm a 
 true believer from first hand experience.
 I do a lot of reading, and when some one mentioned meat  CS I quoted Wayne 
 Green, who unfortunately came under attack. What I have learned through my 
 many years on this planet is *nothing is impossible* and life holds many 
 surprises. Yes, I take everything that Wayne Green says, seriously. Of course 
 his past deeds may have me a bit jaded. Could we please see his detractors 
 credentials. ;-)


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Re: CSElectrode Surface Area

2000-08-01 Thread Ode Wan Coyote
  ##  Current density [where it relates to ion discharge]is not 
uniform.  Discharge tends toward the ends and edges..points and 
corners.  The round rods can be optimized by turning the ends somewhat away 
from each other increasing the distance at that point.
 Flat ribbons will sharpen into a v configuration over time due to the 
edges going full length and there being two points at the ends.  I don't 
know how to prevent that as the edges just are where they are.  Perhaps 
bending the ends apart a bit will help but bending them too far will form 
an hour glass and the ribbon will break in two eventually.

 Ken

At 11:30 PM 7/31/00 -0700, you wrote:

This is a good question. Even with large electrodes, I suspect that the
current density is not uniform. Has anyone addressed electrode design?

Jeff

- Original Message -
From: blue_eyes broompi...@netzero.net
To: C. SILVER silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Monday, July 31, 2000 8:19 PM
Subject: CSElectrode Surface Area


 Greetings Folks!

 As time has gone on, the subject of current density has come up
 now and then and several folks have mentioned what they thought
 was the appropriate maximum density for minimum silver size.

 I do not recall anyone mentioning whether they based current
 density on 100% of the wetted surface area of both electrodes
 or only the wetted surface areas facing each other.

 I tend to think that most of the current is leaving or entering
 the surfaces facing each other.

 Regards,

 David



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Re: CSZappers?

2000-08-01 Thread Ode Wan Coyote


##  Have you tried using a conductive water solution on , say, felt or 
cotton pads?


 Ken






 I've been zapping for 30minutes, 2x per day, for the last three days.
 I've been using dimes for electrodes, taped to my anckles, and I get a
 few small burn marks from them. Any advice would be appreciated.

 Is this a good thing to combine with CS?

 Thank you,
 Jeff





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Re: CSLOLs

2000-08-01 Thread CKing001
Cool,
He's almost an old friend.
I remember a 'zine he put out when the TRS-80 computer became popular.
Didn't realize it was THAT Wayne Green.
Chuck
There is no heaven or hell--only smoking or non-smoking !

On Tue, 1 Aug 2000 09:00:05 -0500, Philip I. Marie Sr.
philma...@landmarknet.net wrote:

I do a lot of reading, and when some one mentioned meat  CS I quoted
Wayne Green, who unfortunately came under attack. What I have learned
through my many years on this planet is *nothing is impossible* and
life holds many surprises. Yes, I take everything that Wayne Green
says, seriously. Of course his past deeds may have me a bit jaded.
Could we please see his detractors credentials. ;-)


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CSnew user

2000-08-01 Thread Bob2221M
I just heard about colloidal silver.  I just went off 6 mos. antibiotics for 
Lyme dis.  Anybody feel like giving me some basics.  Where obtained, proper 
prices, experience with Lyme, toxicity, etc.  Thanks.  Bob


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Re: CSZappers

2000-08-01 Thread Jeffrey A. Madore
Thanks for all of the input on zapping. I see that larger electrodes and
better surface conductivity is in order. I particularly like the idea that
zapping might limit the herx by inhibiting the toxin release. The herx from
CS and Lyme can be a little rough.

My circuit produces a square wave output with no DC offset. The frequency is
about 3 or 4Hz, and the voltage is adjustable to a maximum of 36 volts.

I just breadboarded it on a piece of PC board, screwed it to a small scrap
board with standoffs, and secured the battery pack to the board with some
electrical tape. With the homebrew look, all the wires, batteries, and
blinking leds, it looks something like a bomb!

Thanks again for all of the help.

God Bless,
Jeff - K1le


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Re: CSZappers

2000-08-01 Thread Dean T. Miller
On Tue, 01 Aug 2000 07:58:15 -0500, Bob Squires rj...@dialnet.net
wrote:

  The problem with the dime is the concentrated surface area .
We supply our Zappers with about 4 1/2  of  5/8  -7/8 OD copper
tube  as hand holds . These are covered with a couple of wraps of wet
paper towels. I just tear one towel in half wrap it around and wet it .

May I suggest using baby socks for the pipes?  Paper towels are fine,
but are less convenient to use.

-- Dean -- from (almost) Duh Moines  (CDP, KB0ZDF)


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Re: CSZappers

2000-08-01 Thread Dean T. Miller
Hi Jeff,

On Tue, 1 Aug 2000 10:50:25 -0700, Jeffrey A. Madore
k...@uconect.net wrote:

My circuit produces a square wave output with no DC offset. The frequency is
about 3 or 4Hz, and the voltage is adjustable to a maximum of 36 volts.

That's NOT a Zapper!!  That's a blood electrifier.  It's producing DC
that switches direction 3 or 4 times/second (I thought the original
electrifier switched every 3 seconds).  IOW, there's no off time --
no pulsing.

A Zapper requires unidirectional pulses at a frequency of at least 500
Hz in order to produce enough power in the 100-400 kHz range to kill
parasites.  When you use 36 volts with the higher frequencies you
should get RF burns, even when using larger electrodes and a
cloth/paper towel covering.

A real Zapper is much simpler than a blood electrifier.  It's simply a
555 timer circuit used as a monostable oscillator (pulse generator).  

I just breadboarded it on a piece of PC board, screwed it to a small scrap
board with standoffs, and secured the battery pack to the board with some
electrical tape. With the homebrew look, all the wires, batteries, and
blinking leds, it looks something like a bomb!

IMO, the blood electrifier is good for blood-borne diseases, but isn't
very effective for diseases that lodge in places where there's low
blood flow -- IOW, most diseases.  That's where the Zapper and
magnetic pulser come in handy.

-- Dean -- from (almost) Duh Moines  (CDP, KB0ZDF)


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Re: CSLOLs

2000-08-01 Thread Dean T. Miller
On Tue, 01 Aug 2000 13:07:14 -0400, cking...@nycap.rr.com wrote:

Cool,
He's almost an old friend.
I remember a 'zine he put out when the TRS-80 computer became popular.
Didn't realize it was THAT Wayne Green.

Yup.  Wayne did all those things and much more.  He didn't mention
that he edited CQ magazine for years before having a falling-out and
then started his own (73 magazine) which spawned several other ham
magazines (Ham Radio and others).  He's had a constant disagreement
with the main ham radio organization (ARRL) since the 50's.

Wayne started the SECOND micro-computer magazine (BYTE, in 1976) and
then KiloBaud and others.  (Aside:  the first micro-computer magazine
was started in Cedar Rapids, IA, a year before BYTE.)  

He's loaned/given away millions of dollars to help people start small
businesses (and usually got no repayment on the loans), and got
screwed on several ventures because he's a very trusting soul (BYTE
magazine, for instance).

He's quite ascerbic, and has some rather off-the-wall ideas until he
does his research (he believes too much what people say).  He also
tries to take too much control of things when he gets involved,
alienating people (Cold Fusion magazine, for example).

Other than that, he's one of the really good people, IMO (and I've had
that opinion since the early 60's).

-- Dean -- from (almost) Duh Moines  (CDP, KB0ZDF)


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Re: CSoff topic somewhat

2000-08-01 Thread Tony Moody
Thank you, Alvin.

Alvin Rose wrote:
 
 Hi Tony
 you can make your own ozonizer by following
 the instructions found at:
 http://www.rarebooks.net/beck/b16.htm
 Some tropical fish tank ozonizer units
 will work quite well in this design.
 Arose




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Re: CSLOLs

2000-08-01 Thread John Kolb
On Tue, 1 Aug 2000, Marshall Dudley wrote:

 Wow!  That is impressive.  I don't see how anyone could do that much 
in one lifetime.  Is it all in this lifetime, or is he counting past 
lives as well?

Wayne Green's brag list is all from this life. He's also
a member of Mensa - didn't see that listed. A lot of his firsts
come from his position as an editor of a leading ham radio magazine,
and later as a publisher of one, leading to being in a position
to hear of new ideas, and the money to persue them, but the energy
and dedication to persue them comes from him and he deserves 
the credit. He's widely derided in ham radio circles for his 
ideas such as moon fraud, running a couple of articles in 73 Magazine
on how to build pulsers, colodial silver, etc. In this  group,
we certainly won't knock ALL his ideas. He sells silver wire, BTW,
to bring this completely on topic. Always has interesting
editorials in his magazines.

John





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Re: CSoff topic somewhat

2000-08-01 Thread Tony Moody
Thanks Alvin,
Tony

Alvin Rose wrote:
 
 Hi Tony
 you can make your own ozonizer by following
 the instructions found at:
 http://www.rarebooks.net/beck/b16.htm
 Some tropical fish tank ozonizer units
 will work quite well in this design.
 Arose


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Re: CSnew user

2000-08-01 Thread CKing001
Make your own
You can get started with easy instructions at this websight:
http://silver-works.freeyellow.com/generatr.htm
Chuck
There is one difference between a madman and me.  I am not mad.

On Tue, 1 Aug 2000 13:12:32 EDT, bob22...@aol.com wrote:

I just heard about colloidal silver.  I just went off 6 mos. antibiotics for 
Lyme dis.  Anybody feel like giving me some basics.  Where obtained, proper 
prices, experience with Lyme, toxicity, etc.  Thanks.  Bob


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Re: CSElectrode Surface Area

2000-08-01 Thread w8w8
Greetings Folks!
  
  Snip
  
  I do not recall anyone mentioning whether they based current
  density on 100% of the wetted surface area of both electrodes
  or only the wetted surface areas facing each other.
  
  I tend to think that most of the current is leaving or entering
  the surfaces facing each other.
  
  Regards,
  
  David

  I would think that it is mostly (over 70%) the facing areas but would
expect
  the current would be very similar to the lines of force seen when one
  sprinkles iron filings on a piece of paper and then place the poles of
a
  horse-shoe magnet under the paper.  Most from the facing surfaces,
some from
  the edges and a lot less from the rear.  One way to find out is to
take a
  probe and plot the potential gradient at the different points.  I
think I
  did the some 50 years ago in collage physics and got a t plot similar
to the
  magnetic lines of force.

  Erwin


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Re: CSoff topic somewhat

2000-08-01 Thread Alvin Rose

Hi Tony
you can make your own ozonizer by following
the instructions found at:
http://www.rarebooks.net/beck/b16.htm
Some tropical fish tank ozonizer units
will work quite well in this design.
Arose

Original Message-
From: Tony Moody a...@new.co.za
To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Monday, July 31, 2000 1:20 AM
Subject: Re: CSoff topic somewhat


Hullo Marshall,

You suggested that Henry Reed could make his own ozonator.

Do you have a design that I could use? or could you point me to a link
please.

Thank you,
Tony

Marshall Dudley wrote:

snip
 You can save money if you make your own.

 Marshall




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Re: CSnew user

2000-08-01 Thread Bob Squires
Dear Chuck;

I have been making these things for four years and using it
for the same period. I make the battery models and also the AC plug in models .
these I sell the most of . They have a transformer and rectifier inside and will
make either the milky or the gold or the clear solution . whatever you want . I
can find no difference in the results in any of them . should you want to store
it you need the clear or the golden solution. I can't imagine why any one would
want to store it when it so easy to make . Mine are guaranteed for as long as 
you
have them except for the silver probes and connecting leads . they are $35.00
spare electrodes $10.00 a pair. You can't buy the parts for that at Radio Shack.
+ $6.00 SH
Bob
cking...@nycap.rr.com wrote:

 Make your own
 You can get started with easy instructions at this websight:
 http://silver-works.freeyellow.com/generatr.htm
 Chuck
 There is one difference between a madman and me.  I am not mad.

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 Lyme dis.  Anybody feel like giving me some basics.  Where obtained, proper
 prices, experience with Lyme, toxicity, etc.  Thanks.  Bob

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RE: CSZappers

2000-08-01 Thread Alex C. Torres
The suggestion that to use the zapper UNINTERRUPTED is really CRITICAL, you
must not stop using it for any reason because this treatments develops a
resistance to the use of electricity and frequencies, and no matter what you
do if it gets interrupted the results or effectiveness are minimal if not
zero due to the body get accustomed to this treatment. I compare this effect
as the treatments we gave for tuberculosis. If the patient stops or skips
some doses the treatment becomes non effective due to strains resistant to
the treatment. We find this effect on our patients, no matter which zapper
you use (High or low voltage) if stopped, no results any more.
Alex Torres M.D.
P.S. I know some persons that take medicines for years and never stops
taking them, as the date, we cannot found any negative effects using
electricity on the body, that's the reason to recommend to use it
indefinitely.

-Original Message-
From: Bob Squires [mailto:rj...@dialnet.net]
Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2000 5:58 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CSZappers



Jeff Madore;

Jeff ,
  The problem with the dime is the concentrated surface area .
We supply our Zappers with about 4 1/2  of  5/8  -7/8 OD copper
tube  as hand holds . These are covered with a couple of wraps of wet
paper towels. I just tear one towel in half wrap it around and wet it .
normal treatment time is 7-10 min on and 20 min or so off repeated three
times or more a day, One session in the morning and another in the
evening works fine . I personally think  the zapper and the CS machine
used together is the best treatment for disease there is or ever has
been and that more people are cured of serious disease by this method
than all of the others put together . I also think that the prescription
drugs sold over the counter for huge amounts of money constitute the
greatest fraud there ever has been .
Your machine should be putting out from 4 1/2 to 5 dc
volts . this is not representative of what is going on but just a quick
easy check.. Concerning treatment those I know who have been cured of
serious diseases have used the Zapper every day some twice a day and
taken a quart of  5 PPM CS ,at the minimum,  every day . Even those who
have just come off of chemo therapy and been told there is no hope have
been totally healed in five to six weeks. These treatments must be used
in continued un broken fashion . After all what else is there that those
who are not wealthy can afford.

Best wishes for your recovery

Bob


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cs and saline

2000-08-01 Thread Henry Reed
  The cs in my homemade saline is working well and lots more
comfortably.  I just put a little salt in distilled water and mixed it
half and half with the cs.  I knew saline was only a little salty so I
was very sparing with the salt.  Anyway, now the drops don't hurt any at
all.  pj


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Re: CSoff topic somewhat

2000-08-01 Thread Henry Reed
Thanks Alvin, and I agree that  'it's only money'!  pj


Alvin Rose wrote:
 
 Hi Henry
 the ozonizer will produce oxygenized water which is very
 effective in speeding up the removal of disabled viruses and
 bacteria from the blood..also has proven to curb cancer and other cell
 disease growth as they don't function well in an oxygen environment,,also
 it feels like you've had a couple of martinis which is like a free bonus.
 If you have a serious illness this purchase would be justified.
 and it's only money!    have a nice day!
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Henry Reed pj20...@home.com
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com
 Date: Sunday, July 30, 2000 10:14 PM
 Subject: Re: CSoff topic somewhat
 
 Marshall thank you for that input.
 
 Marshall Dudley wrote:
 
  I don't believe this can be answered for your particular case.  I believe
  that each of the 4 can possibly cure cancer, and 2 will be successful
 more
  often than just one, and 3 will have a higher success rate then 3, and 4
  will have the highest success rate.
 
  For any particular case it may take, one, two, three, or all 4 to work.
 I
  personally would spare no expense if there was even the slightest higher
  possibility of success.
 
  You can save money if you make your own.
 
  Marshall
 
  Henry Reed wrote:
 
 List, can anyone tell me please just how important is the ozonator
   recommended by Bob Beck in his cancer protocol?  We have the other
   devices and can maybe get the ozonator too if we have to.  But if the
   protocol will work without it, we need to spare the expense.  Does
   anyone know for sure?   Thanks, pj
  
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CSRe: MSM

2000-08-01 Thread gail from WV
Someone asked if you were supposed to take MSM with CS and I never saw
anyone answer, so I am asking again.
Does MSM enhance the CS? How much
do you take and when?
Gail


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Re: CSoff topic somewhat

2000-08-01 Thread Rob Lowe
Well said Alvin!
I agree completely.

PS: Someone said earlier that you need to wear a zapper
to kill the bugs shaken loose by the magnetic pulsar!?
If the bugs aren't already dead by the time the pulsar has
done its thing, then I can see no point in using the pulsar at all.
My understanding is that the pulsar will penetrate the lymph glands,
bone, teeth, tissue  blood and kill all the nasties.
The ozonated water is a beautiful way to get rid of the toxins
produced by the kill off!
Rob
- Original Message -
From: Alvin Rose ar...@nf.sympatico.ca
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Wednesday, August 02, 2000 6:28 AM
Subject: Re: CSoff topic somewhat


 Hi Henry
 the ozonizer will produce oxygenized water which is very
 effective in speeding up the removal of disabled viruses and
 bacteria from the blood..also has proven to curb cancer and other cell
 disease growth as they don't function well in an oxygen environment,,also
 it feels like you've had a couple of martinis which is like a free bonus.
 If you have a serious illness this purchase would be justified.
 and it's only money!    have a nice day!

 -Original Message-
 From: Henry Reed pj20...@home.com
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com
 Date: Sunday, July 30, 2000 10:14 PM
 Subject: Re: CSoff topic somewhat


 Marshall thank you for that input.
 
 Marshall Dudley wrote:
 
  I don't believe this can be answered for your particular case.  I
believe
  that each of the 4 can possibly cure cancer, and 2 will be successful
 more
  often than just one, and 3 will have a higher success rate then 3, and
4
  will have the highest success rate.
 
  For any particular case it may take, one, two, three, or all 4 to work.
 I
  personally would spare no expense if there was even the slightest
higher
  possibility of success.
 
  You can save money if you make your own.
 
  Marshall
 
  Henry Reed wrote:
 
 List, can anyone tell me please just how important is the ozonator
   recommended by Bob Beck in his cancer protocol?  We have the other
   devices and can maybe get the ozonator too if we have to.  But if the
   protocol will work without it, we need to spare the expense.  Does
   anyone know for sure?   Thanks, pj
  
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Re: CSRe: MSM

2000-08-01 Thread Marshall Dudley
There is no problem mixing them.  Some claim an enhancement.

Marshall

gail from WV wrote:

 Someone asked if you were supposed to take MSM with CS and I never saw
 anyone answer, so I am asking again.
 Does MSM enhance the CS? How much
 do you take and when?
 Gail

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Re: CSElectrode Surface Area

2000-08-01 Thread blue_eyes
Fellow CS'ers,

Of all the responses I received directly (1), there was one that
stood out from all the rest. It indicated the total surface area of
both electrodes is used to calculate the current density. There
was no mention of the reasoning behind the conclusion, so I am
still looking for more of the bits and pieces of the answer.

It seems to me,though,since the reason we care about low current
density is the apparent association with smaller silver particles
being released from the anode, we don't care what the current
density is at the cathode. That is to say, does the current
density at the cathode effect the particle size as much as the
density at the anode seems to?

If it does not, then it makes sense to me to figure the current
density on less than 100% of the *anode* wetted surface area and
perhaps in the 50% to 70% zone.

What be the thoughts of others?

Still drinking,

Daivd

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CSdrinking water question

2000-08-01 Thread Carla Wainwright
Hi,

I am new to using CS, but I read about the benefits of adding CS to
our/animal's drinking water. However, when I added some to my cat's water
bowl, I noticed that after a few hours, the water developed a dark grey
tinge and film. I imagine this is because the CS reacted with some metals
in the water (we are on a well). I threw it out, since I didn't think it
was safe. Does this mean that I can't add CS to our water? If this is the
case, how do you use CS to purify water if you need to drink something that
you are unsure of?

thanks,

Carla


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Re: CSoff topic somewhat

2000-08-01 Thread Alvin Rose
Hi Tony
I forgot to give you the drawing location
it's at: http://www.rarebooks.net/beck/b17.htm
-Original Message-
From: Tony Moody a...@new.co.za
To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Tuesday, August 01, 2000 12:34 PM
Subject: Re: CSoff topic somewhat


Thank you, Alvin.

Alvin Rose wrote:
 
 Hi Tony
 you can make your own ozonizer by following
 the instructions found at:
 http://www.rarebooks.net/beck/b16.htm
 Some tropical fish tank ozonizer units
 will work quite well in this design.
 Arose




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Re: CSThe Book.........

2000-08-01 Thread Bob2221M
Thanks, I'll ask my wife to order it.  Do you have experience with c.s. and 
time enough to write me briefly?  Either way, thanks again. Bob


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CSRe: silver-digest Digest V100 #571

2000-08-01 Thread Philip I. Marie Sr.
Hi All;

I posted the LOL post but never got it in digest form. Seems like it
should have been in one of the following


digest Digest V10 45, 44, 43, 42.

which I did receive.
So, if I don't respond to some posts, thats why.

Phil Sr.



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Re: CSElectrode Surface Area

2000-08-01 Thread Ivan Anderson
David,

The convention is to use the current density on the electrode you are
interested in, in this case the anode.

The current density is the current divided by the wetted area of the
electrode.

My small generators have a wetted area of 45mm x 2mm dia = 283 sq mm.
I limit the current to 0.5mA, so the current density is 0.0018 mA per sq
mm.

Electrodes have 'hot spots' at sharp edges which draw more current than
the rest.

Regards,
Ivan.

- Original Message -
From: blue_eyes broompi...@netzero.net
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Wednesday, 2 August 2000 10:17
Subject: Re: CSElectrode Surface Area


 Fellow CS'ers,

 Of all the responses I received directly (1), there was one that
 stood out from all the rest. It indicated the total surface area of
 both electrodes is used to calculate the current density. There
 was no mention of the reasoning behind the conclusion, so I am
 still looking for more of the bits and pieces of the answer.

 It seems to me,though,since the reason we care about low current
 density is the apparent association with smaller silver particles
 being released from the anode, we don't care what the current
 density is at the cathode. That is to say, does the current
 density at the cathode effect the particle size as much as the
 density at the anode seems to?

 If it does not, then it makes sense to me to figure the current
 density on less than 100% of the *anode* wetted surface area and
 perhaps in the 50% to 70% zone.

 What be the thoughts of others?

 Still drinking,

 Daivd

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Re: CSdrinking water question

2000-08-01 Thread Marshall Dudley
I suspect that your water is highly acidic.  You may want to test it.  Acidic
water is not good for you.  You may want to neutralize it.  If this is the case
then CS will probably no longer aggregate once the ph is brought up toward 7.

Marshall

Carla Wainwright wrote:

 Hi,

 I am new to using CS, but I read about the benefits of adding CS to
 our/animal's drinking water. However, when I added some to my cat's water
 bowl, I noticed that after a few hours, the water developed a dark grey
 tinge and film. I imagine this is because the CS reacted with some metals
 in the water (we are on a well). I threw it out, since I didn't think it
 was safe. Does this mean that I can't add CS to our water? If this is the
 case, how do you use CS to purify water if you need to drink something that
 you are unsure of?

 thanks,

 Carla

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RE: CSRe: MSM

2000-08-01 Thread James Osbourne, Holmes
To make a saturated solution dissolve MSM in the silver until no more will 
dissolve.

Decant the liquid without disturbing any remaining crystals in the bottom 
of the mixing container.

This may be used in any manner that CS may be used, which means anywhere 
including breathing it.  Don't use a heat-type vaporizer; it will produce 
mostly distilled water.

When used with a nebulizer, or airbrush, and oxygen it has amazing results 
with lung and Upper Resp. conditions.

Some people get remarkable results with tablespoonfuls daily others quaff 
quarts.  Diarrhea with no other likely cause is an indication of taking too 
much.  I take a small swallow, most every day.  More if I get sick.  I have 
not been sick very often since.  Two colds, one flue in about 4 yr.

It is highly improbable that it can hurt you, and very probable it will 
help.

Bottom line, do your own research, if you have concerns.

Note that if a person has a bacterial infection, they may get a fever, 
chills, headache, etc, when starting on CS due to killed bacteria releasing 
toxins; the Herx.  Start small; increase slowly.

You may find much more detail and specific medical citations if you search 
this list archives.

Good fortune,


James Osbourne Holmes
a...@trail.com
FTNWO


-Original Message-
From:   gail from WV [SMTP:gai...@webtv.net]
Sent:   Tuesday, August 01, 2000 3:34 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject:CSRe: MSM

Someone asked if you were supposed to take MSM with CS and I never saw
anyone answer, so I am asking again.
Does MSM enhance the CS? How much
do you take and when?
Gail


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Re: CSoff topic somewhat

2000-08-01 Thread Katie Jay
How much ozonated water is it safe to drink?
With love,
Katie



- Original Message -
From: Rob Lowe r...@iprimus.com.au
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2000 2:35 PM
Subject: Re: CSoff topic somewhat


 Well said Alvin!
 I agree completely.

 PS: Someone said earlier that you need to wear a zapper
 to kill the bugs shaken loose by the magnetic pulsar!?
 If the bugs aren't already dead by the time the pulsar has
 done its thing, then I can see no point in using the pulsar at all.
 My understanding is that the pulsar will penetrate the lymph glands,
 bone, teeth, tissue  blood and kill all the nasties.
 The ozonated water is a beautiful way to get rid of the toxins
 produced by the kill off!
 Rob
 - Original Message -
 From: Alvin Rose ar...@nf.sympatico.ca
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Sent: Wednesday, August 02, 2000 6:28 AM
 Subject: Re: CSoff topic somewhat


  Hi Henry
  the ozonizer will produce oxygenized water which is very
  effective in speeding up the removal of disabled viruses and
  bacteria from the blood..also has proven to curb cancer and other cell
  disease growth as they don't function well in an oxygen
environment,,also
  it feels like you've had a couple of martinis which is like a free
bonus.
  If you have a serious illness this purchase would be justified.
  and it's only money!    have a nice day!
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Henry Reed pj20...@home.com
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com
  Date: Sunday, July 30, 2000 10:14 PM
  Subject: Re: CSoff topic somewhat
 
 
  Marshall thank you for that input.
  
  Marshall Dudley wrote:
  
   I don't believe this can be answered for your particular case.  I
 believe
   that each of the 4 can possibly cure cancer, and 2 will be successful
  more
   often than just one, and 3 will have a higher success rate then 3,
and
 4
   will have the highest success rate.
  
   For any particular case it may take, one, two, three, or all 4 to
work.
  I
   personally would spare no expense if there was even the slightest
 higher
   possibility of success.
  
   You can save money if you make your own.
  
   Marshall
  
   Henry Reed wrote:
  
  List, can anyone tell me please just how important is the
ozonator
recommended by Bob Beck in his cancer protocol?  We have the other
devices and can maybe get the ozonator too if we have to.  But if
the
protocol will work without it, we need to spare the expense.  Does
anyone know for sure?   Thanks, pj
   
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Re: CSZappers

2000-08-01 Thread Katie Jay
If I've already interrupted the zapper treatment for a week or so, does that
mean it won't be effective anymore?

Thanks,
Katie

- Original Message -
From: Alex C. Torres compu_...@prodigy.net
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2000 1:55 PM
Subject: RE: CSZappers


 The suggestion that to use the zapper UNINTERRUPTED is really CRITICAL,
you
 must not stop using it for any reason because this treatments develops a
 resistance to the use of electricity and frequencies, and no matter what
you
 do if it gets interrupted the results or effectiveness are minimal if not
 zero due to the body get accustomed to this treatment. I compare this
effect
 as the treatments we gave for tuberculosis. If the patient stops or skips
 some doses the treatment becomes non effective due to strains resistant to
 the treatment. We find this effect on our patients, no matter which zapper
 you use (High or low voltage) if stopped, no results any more.
 Alex Torres M.D.
 P.S. I know some persons that take medicines for years and never stops
 taking them, as the date, we cannot found any negative effects using
 electricity on the body, that's the reason to recommend to use it
 indefinitely.

 -Original Message-
 From: Bob Squires [mailto:rj...@dialnet.net]
 Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2000 5:58 AM
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Subject: CSZappers



 Jeff Madore;

 Jeff ,
   The problem with the dime is the concentrated surface area .
 We supply our Zappers with about 4 1/2  of  5/8  -7/8 OD copper
 tube  as hand holds . These are covered with a couple of wraps of wet
 paper towels. I just tear one towel in half wrap it around and wet it .
 normal treatment time is 7-10 min on and 20 min or so off repeated three
 times or more a day, One session in the morning and another in the
 evening works fine . I personally think  the zapper and the CS machine
 used together is the best treatment for disease there is or ever has
 been and that more people are cured of serious disease by this method
 than all of the others put together . I also think that the prescription
 drugs sold over the counter for huge amounts of money constitute the
 greatest fraud there ever has been .
 Your machine should be putting out from 4 1/2 to 5 dc
 volts . this is not representative of what is going on but just a quick
 easy check.. Concerning treatment those I know who have been cured of
 serious diseases have used the Zapper every day some twice a day and
 taken a quart of  5 PPM CS ,at the minimum,  every day . Even those who
 have just come off of chemo therapy and been told there is no hope have
 been totally healed in five to six weeks. These treatments must be used
 in continued un broken fashion . After all what else is there that those
 who are not wealthy can afford.

 Best wishes for your recovery

 Bob


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CSOT N.D. degree OT

2000-08-01 Thread Jolly Garland
I was in premed before Vietnam derailed me. I have a degree in Chem and
math. I am very interested in pursuing a late career in alternative
medicine. Any recommendations? Schools? Thanks.  TJ Garland


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CSRheumatoid Arthritis

2000-08-01 Thread Linda Campbell
Dear List,
Does anyone know if the Beck protocol has ever cured rheumatoid
arthritis?
Thanks,
Linda


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