Re: CSDoggie-help please!

[brooks bradley]

Dear Yvonne,
German Shepards are notorious for hip dysplasia problems.  Years ago we
came across an ancillary protocol which worked splendidly for us (in fact
it saved our 15 yro Shepard from having to be put down).  We instigated the
use of alfalfa (in tablet form), at a quantity of 1200 mg per day ---for
three days---then reduced the dosage to 800 mg thereafter.  Within 4 days he
could get up unassisted and almost pain-free.  Within 10 days he was
completely pain-free and continued to be so for the remainder of his life.
He lived on to the age of 18 years.passing on from more natural causes
of advanced ageunrelated to his dysplasia.  The alfalfa protocol was
required as a continuing protocol for the remainder of his life.  Whenever
it was discontinued for five continuous days, his dysplasia symptoms would
start to reappear.  We have, since, used this protocol to assist in many
cases of  articulating joint problems in dogs (my wife and I still have
10all throwaways by considerate humans---7 of which are advanced in
age [ 12 or older]..none of which exhibit arthritis.  We give them
alfalfa (three standard tablets daily for small dogs and eight tablets for
large ones), together with glucosamine
sulphate capsules/tablets @ 50 mg per 15 lbs body-weight..  If one has many
dogsor is economy minded.the use of powdered alfalfa (obtainable
from any feed store) at the rate of 1 teaspoon dailymixed into their
moisturized-food, has proven to be a most valuable health support.
Regarding the lower intestinal tract bacterial affliction..you
might consider the following modification:   Using a small bulb-type
syringe, give the dog an enema solution  containing 80% CS (10 to 20 ppm)
and 20% DMSO.  Lower DMSO concentration to 15% if dog exhibits noticeable
stress from tissue irritation.  Repeat this protocol three times daily at 4
hour intervals.  The odds for bacterial control---using this protocol---are
quite high and any side effects quite benign.
I wish you the very best good fortune in preserving and
extending the healthy and happy life of your beloved pet.
Sincerely, Brooks Bradley.
Disclaimer.  Please remember, we are not veterinarians and DO NOT practice
veterinary medicine.  These are simply some of the EXPERIMENTAL protocols we
have evaluated over the past years.


- Original Message -
From: Yvonne and Mickey - BIO-SIL bio...@worldonline.co.za
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Friday, June 29, 2001 7:18 AM
Subject: CSDoggie-help please!


 Hi there!   I'm not sure if this is a repeat but I never saw it appear on
 the list so think original message may have gotten lost in cyberspace!

 If anyone can help I'd be most grateful:
 1. My German Sheppies nearly 10 years old - brother  has very stiff joints
 and doesn't move with the ease and grace he used to possess
 2. His sister has an apparently common to GSDs problem - which is anal
 fistulae (bacteria which literally burrow through the intestines and right
 out the back under tail).   Vets we've consulted and whose treatments have
 not worked, say there is no cure and kindest move is to euthanase.   Well,
 this is not an option to me right now as she seems fairly happy otherwise.
 The part under her tail looks 'raw' and is quite malodourous.   I am of
 course giving CS internally and spraying directly.

 Thank you kindly!
 Yvonne :o)


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Re: CSRE:plaque in blood

[CKing001]

Taking your Homozon after your Frosty Flakes breakfast?
Chuck
Gestate:  what you say when offered liver and onions when visiting.

On Thu, 28 Jun 2001 20:57:25 -0700, Dottie Glenn dottsgar...@hotmail.com
wrote:

Under what conditions would a person have milk coursing through their body 
at 40,000 pounds of pressure?


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CSWeil Thinks Long Term Use of Oral Silver May Cause Neurological Damage

[ROGALTMAN]

In a message dated 6/28/01 10:04:55 PM EST, r...@midohio.net writes:

 Medical literature also contains reports of neurological problems that 
 developed in long-term users of oral silver products.
 My advice is to stick with the antibiotic treatment your son is receiving. 
 And what you might do-what's better than using colloidal silver-is 
 investigate electromagnetic stimulation for bone healing, a treatment that 
 is backed by scientific evidence.
 Dr. Andrew Weil 

Does anyone have any idea what studies Dr. Weil is referring to in the 
statement above? Roger


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Re: CSRE:plaque in blood

[Daniel Hernandez]

Dottie,
According to Judith's article it is, but better for you compared to what?
I don't drink milk. If I did however, I would drink raw milk and most
likely from a goat. 


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CSDoggie-help please!

[Yvonne and Mickey - BIO-SIL]

Hi there!   I'm not sure if this is a repeat but I never saw it appear on
the list so think original message may have gotten lost in cyberspace!

If anyone can help I'd be most grateful:
1. My German Sheppies nearly 10 years old - brother  has very stiff joints
and doesn't move with the ease and grace he used to possess
2. His sister has an apparently common to GSDs problem - which is anal
fistulae (bacteria which literally burrow through the intestines and right
out the back under tail).   Vets we've consulted and whose treatments have
not worked, say there is no cure and kindest move is to euthanase.   Well,
this is not an option to me right now as she seems fairly happy otherwise.
The part under her tail looks 'raw' and is quite malodourous.   I am of
course giving CS internally and spraying directly.

Thank you kindly!
Yvonne :o)


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Re: CSWeil Thinks Long Term Use of Oral Silver May Cause Neurological Damage

[Laura Maxwell]

Don't know where he got his info, but I never took anything he said for
real before and now I'm totally convinced not to follow his advice.

Laura (grateful for the healing qualities of CS)


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Re: CSWeil Thinks Long Term Use of Oral Silver May Cause Neurological Damage

[ROGALTMAN]

In a message dated 6/29/01 7:13:52 AM EST, ljmaxw...@earthlink.net writes:

 Subj: Re: CSWeil Thinks Long Term Use of Oral Silver May Cause 
Neurological  Damage
 Date:  6/29/01 7:13:52 AM EST
 From:  ljmaxw...@earthlink.net (Laura Maxwell)
 Reply-to:  silver-list@eskimo.com
 To:silver-list@eskimo.com
 
 Don't know where he got his info, but I never took anything he said for
 real before and now I'm totally convinced not to follow his advice.
 
 Laura (grateful for the healing qualities of CS)
 
  

Laura: I don't think you should take what ANYONE says for real until you 
check it out, or have others whose opinion you respect do it for you. On the 
other hand, we put ourselves at potential risk if we do not investigate his, 
or any other professional's reference to LONG TERM silver toxicity problems 
since we have seen no data concerning this question one way or the other. As 
far as efficacy, and short term toxicity problems are concerned, I think 
we've put THOSE questions to rest a long time ago on this forum. Roger


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CSRe: DrWeil

[Annhope1]

In a message dated 6/29/01 4:44:03 AM Pacific Daylight Time, 
silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com writes:


 And no matter what the
 promoters of colloidal silver tell you, the human body doesn't need
 silver. Safety is an issue, too. If taken orally, it can accumulate in
 the body's tissues and cause a disfiguring skin condition called
 argyria. Skin pigmentation, especially around the nose and mouth, turns
 bluish, permanently. Those affected have been described as looking like
 corpses suddenly come to life. Medical literature also contains reports
 of neurological problems that developed in long-term users of oral
 silver products.
 

I've looked through DrWeil's books,  I thought he was alternative and toots 
that on his web site but he seems to travel the safe line with his 
recommendations. It looks like he read that info on CS right from a book 
somewhere without researching.  His thoughts on vacc come from a committee of 
Drs who hes says were not funded by the vacc companies...Oh sure...and 
I have some land for sale in FL.

Terri L.

Re: CSDoggie-help please!

[ROGALTMAN]

In a message dated 6/29/01 7:33:34 AM EST, bio...@worldonline.co.za writes:

 If anyone can help I'd be most grateful:
 1. My German Sheppies nearly 10 years old - brother  has very stiff joints
 and doesn't move with the ease and grace he used to possess
 2. His sister has an apparently common to GSDs problem - which is anal
 fistulae (bacteria which literally burrow through the intestines and right
 out the back under tail).   Vets we've consulted and whose treatments have
 not worked, say there is no cure and kindest move is to euthanase.   Well,
 this is not an option to me right now as she seems fairly happy otherwise.
 The part under her tail looks 'raw' and is quite malodourous.   I am of
 course giving CS internally and spraying directly.
 
 Thank you kindly!
 Yvonne :o) 

Yvonne: For stiff joints I had good results (over an 8 year period) giving my 
Newfy a combination buffered aspirin (usually 1 tablet a day) plus a 
prescription cortisone medication. However, I used about 1/20 of the amount 
stated on the perscription. For the other problem, try using Brooks Bradley's 
2 part Gatorade 1 part CS mix. He says it increases the CS absorption rate to 
that approaching an IV. Also, since the Gatorade is sweet, perhaps your dog 
will ingest more CS than he is now using DW. Roger


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Re: CSA question of ticks and lyme

[Marshalee Hallett]

  Lymes is pretty rare especially if you get that tick off within 3 hours.
 Usually one gets flu like symptoms and  the spreading rash or bullseye,
but
 not always.
  Ken

Ah, come on, Ken, surely you`ve been on the List long enough to know it is
Lyme, not Lymes Disease! Named after a town, not a doctor.
 Then there`s Alzheimers, how many know the z is said like ts and not like
an English z?
And it is Neander-tall not Neander-thal even though it`s spelled that
way.
Arrgh...
Marshalee, (a language purist)


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Re: CSWeil Thinks Long Term Use of Oral Silver May Cause Neurological Damage

[Marshall Dudley]

rogalt...@aol.com wrote:

 In a message dated 6/28/01 10:04:55 PM EST, r...@midohio.net writes:

  Medical literature also contains reports of neurological problems that
  developed in long-term users of oral silver products.
  My advice is to stick with the antibiotic treatment your son is receiving.
  And what you might do-what's better than using colloidal silver-is
  investigate electromagnetic stimulation for bone healing, a treatment that
  is backed by scientific evidence.
  Dr. Andrew Weil 

 Does anyone have any idea what studies Dr. Weil is referring to in the
 statement above? Roger

The only oral silver product I know of are fillings in teeth, which DO cause
neurological problems due to the mercury content. Looks like more smoke and
mirrors to me.

Marshall


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Re: CS Poison Ivy

[Connie Hendrix]

Roger, I used CS on my granddaughters poison ivy and it was gone over night.

- Original Message -
From: rogalt...@aol.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2001 4:37 PM
Subject: CS  Poison Ivy


List: I've been giving my HVAC CS to my neighbor for the last year. Today he
told me that he gave some of it to a fellow worker who was suffering
terribly
from poison ivy. Within a very short time (hours), the intense itching
subsided markedly, and his condition continues to improve. I was wondering
if
others have experienced similar relief. If so, does anyone have an
explanation as to why CS seems to work for poison ivy? Roger


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Re: CSWeil Thinks Long Term Use of Oral Silver May Cause Neurological Damage

[ROGALTMAN]

In a message dated 6/29/01 9:19:11 AM EST, mdud...@execonn.com writes:

 The only oral silver product I know of are fillings in teeth, which DO 
cause
 neurological problems due to the mercury content. Looks like more smoke and
 mirrors to me.
 
 Marshall
  

Marshall: Perhaps I'll try to contact the good doctor himself through his 
website (I guess he has one of those). His staff may be able to help (I 
assume he has one of those as well). Roger


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Re: CSDoggie-help please!

[Chip Hoyle]

Hi Yvonne,

I would try giving the dog with stiff hips Glucosamine/Chondroitin/MSM-My
mother had arthritis in her hand so bad that she couldn't close her hand to
make a fist.  After about a month on the glucosamine she regained full range
of motion with no pain.  Have you tried olive leaf extract for the doggie with
fistula?  It worked wonders for my chesapeake bay retriever when he had a
dermal staph infection.  The vet gave him antibiotics for 30 days that didn't
clear the infection.  A couple of days of olive leaf treatment improved it,
with full remission in about 3 weeks.  It has worked wonders for me too!  Hope
your dog buddies are feeling better soon.

Chip Hoyle





Yvonne and Mickey - BIO-SIL wrote:

 Hi there!   I'm not sure if this is a repeat but I never saw it appear on
 the list so think original message may have gotten lost in cyberspace!

 If anyone can help I'd be most grateful:
 1. My German Sheppies nearly 10 years old - brother  has very stiff joints
 and doesn't move with the ease and grace he used to possess
 2. His sister has an apparently common to GSDs problem - which is anal
 fistulae (bacteria which literally burrow through the intestines and right
 out the back under tail).   Vets we've consulted and whose treatments have
 not worked, say there is no cure and kindest move is to euthanase.   Well,
 this is not an option to me right now as she seems fairly happy otherwise.
 The part under her tail looks 'raw' and is quite malodourous.   I am of
 course giving CS internally and spraying directly.

 Thank you kindly!
 Yvonne :o)

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Re: CSFOUND a generator for concentrated CS

[Ode Coyote]

  Oh yes, of course.  I must have been doing higher math.
:-)
Ken

Introducing a new term to the language...
The Sagan : a unit of  measurement indicating billions and billions and
billions.

At 11:35 AM 6/28/01 -0400, you wrote:
I had been told that there really wan't any word for the many, instead
they would
throw up their hands and have a helpless look on their faces once they got
beyond
3.

Marshall

Ode Coyote wrote:

   Isn't that One, a couple, a few, several then many?

 Nit picking math..
 er, one nit is two-many :-)
  How's that for an equation?
 Ken

 At 04:55 PM 6/27/01 -0400, you wrote:
 Roger wrote:
 
  Frank: I would appreciate it if you could cite the references that
support
  your statement, Many researchers are convinced that very small
particles
  (under 10 nm) in high concentration is most desired. Thanks, Roger
 
 In the aboriginal number systems, many comes after three (as in one, two,
 three, many), so I only need to find one more beyond myself, Dr. Maass, and
 Dr. Gibbs. Perhaps Marshall will sign on.
 
 frank key
 
 
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Re: CS Poison Ivy

[ROGALTMAN]

In a message dated 6/29/01 9:19:37 AM EST, cmhend...@acsworld.net writes:

 Subj: Re: CS  Poison Ivy
 Date:  6/29/01 9:19:37 AM EST
 From:  cmhend...@acsworld.net (Connie Hendrix)
 To:rogalt...@aol.com, silver-list@eskimo.com
 
 Roger, I used CS on my granddaughters poison ivy and it was gone over night.
  

Connie: Think of all the interesting research we could do, painting the 
poison ivy with different brews of CS. Or, how about painting it on first, to 
see if the CS protects us from it. Roger  


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RE: CSEPA Approves New Ionic Silver Product

[James Osbourne, Holmes]

It may be silver, but if it is not in liquid, it is not ionic.

James-Osbourne: Holmes

-Original Message-
From: Bill Missett [mailto:miss...@prodigy.net.mx]
Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2001 4:08 PM
To: *Silver-List*
Subject: CSEPA Approves New Ionic Silver Product

Extract from Popular Science (July 2001, Page 30):

AK Steel of Middletown, Ohio, will soon begin marketing its new
antimicrobial steel for home heating, ventilation, and AC ducts.  The
ducting was approved by the EPA in March 2001.

The steel is coated with an antimicrobial compound produced by Agion
Technologies of Wakefield, Mass., which contains IONIC SILVER to control
microorganisms including fungi and yeast.

The company is building a 11,000 SF home in Simi Valley, CA to test its
product.  The home will be completely equipped with new Ionic Steel coated
ducting, as well as doorknobs, handrails, faucets, and food preparation
surfaces covered with the same coating.

RE: CSBUM DOPE?

[James Osbourne, Holmes]

Tisk, Tisk,

Now I will have to have second thoughts about everything the good doctor has
written about shrooms.

James-Osbourne: Holmes

-Original Message-
From: larry tankersley [mailto:la...@webtv.net]
Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2001 5:27 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CSBUM DOPE?

 I use to think Dr weil was a good source for FACTS.that was until I
checked  his site about subjects I KNOW about [CS is not one of them]. I
know think he should perhaps head back to South America and do some more
mind altering drugs or check what his researchers are reporting. SEE
BELOW ...maybe you will see where I'm coming from. So far I haven't seen
any of these claims made,but perhaps the MLM  were and I just haven't
run into. Seems I remember Quack watch trashing him,so I guess he
couldn't be all bad. ; )

Colloidal Silver: Better than Antibiotics?  My son was recently
hospitalized for an infected hip joint. He then
developed a blood clot in a femoral vein. The first antibiotic he was
given didn't work. Since this was his very first antibiotic, I expected
better results. What about natural colloidal silver? -- Francelle
Reynolds

(Published 11/11/99) An infected hip joint is a serious condition, and
antibiotics, given for a long period of time -- and if necessary,
surgical drainage -- are the best treatment. I certainly wouldn't
recommend going off the antibiotics in a case like this. As far as
colloidal silver is concerned, I can't see how it would help. In fact,
it could be harmful.
The term colloidal means the minerals are of a certain size,
facilitating use by the body. The promoters of colloidal silver make
some fantastic claims: They say their products extend life, protect you
from cancer, and cure just about anything. They'll tell you that mineral
deficiencies lead to a weakened immune system and cancer. All of this is
nonsense. Colloidal silver supplements are also heavily advertised as
powerful antimicrobials and immune system stimulants, capable of curing
up to 650 different diseases. Again, none of these claims have been
proven.
At one time, silver products were useful as germicidals, but they've
been replaced gradually by more effective ones. And no matter what the
promoters of colloidal silver tell you, the human body doesn't need
silver. Safety is an issue, too. If taken orally, it can accumulate in
the body's tissues and cause a disfiguring skin condition called
argyria. Skin pigmentation, especially around the nose and mouth, turns
bluish, permanently. Those affected have been described as looking like
corpses suddenly come to life. Medical literature also contains reports
of neurological problems that developed in long-term users of oral
silver products.
My advice is to stick with the antibiotic treatment your son is
receiving. And what you might do -- what's better than using colloidal
silver -- is investigate electromagnetic stimulation for bone healing, a
treatment that is backed by scientific evidence.
Dr. Andrew Weil




larry tankersley; Gainesville,Florida USA


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CSMold in walls and carpet - How to get rid of

[svr999a]

Hello list,

My wife's sister's finished basement was flooded a few years back and was not 
used any more.  She now wants to use it again but thinks the carpet and walls 
are infested with mold.
Any ideas how to eliminate the mold?  Even if the sheetrock and carpets were 
replaced, would the mold still likely be in the walls?  Would a spray of CS 
work?  Anyone know how to test for the presence of mold it it is not readily 
visible?

Thanks for any help you might offer.

Steve



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RE: CSWeil Thinks Long Term Use of Oral Silver May Cause Neurological Damage

[James Osbourne, Holmes]

It is the same old confusion between silver compounds and CS promoted by the
FDA.

When one observes the incorrect information which many Dr.s spread about CS,
it makes you wonder about the other subjects about which we are not so well
informed...

James-Osbourne: Holmes

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From: rogalt...@aol.com [mailto:rogalt...@aol.com]
Sent: Friday, June 29, 2001 5:49 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CSWeil Thinks Long Term Use of Oral Silver May Cause Neurological
Damage

In a message dated 6/28/01 10:04:55 PM EST, r...@midohio.net writes:

 Medical literature also contains reports of neurological problems that
 developed in long-term users of oral silver products.
 My advice is to stick with the antibiotic treatment your son is receiving.
 And what you might do-what's better than using colloidal silver-is
 investigate electromagnetic stimulation for bone healing, a treatment that
 is backed by scientific evidence.
 Dr. Andrew Weil 

Does anyone have any idea what studies Dr. Weil is referring to in the
statement above? Roger


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RE: CSWeil Thinks Long Term Use of Oral Silver May Cause Neurological Damage

[James Osbourne, Holmes]

It may be Dr. R.O. Becker.  Incidentally, when he did the work healing a
stubborn compound fracture of the leg, with osteomilitis, by passing a
micro-current through the leg, he used silver electrodes embedded in the
leg.

James-Osbourne: Holmes

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Sent: Friday, June 29, 2001 5:49 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CSWeil Thinks Long Term Use of Oral Silver May Cause Neurological
Damage

In a message dated 6/28/01 10:04:55 PM EST, r...@midohio.net writes:

 Medical literature also contains reports of neurological problems that
 developed in long-term users of oral silver products.
 My advice is to stick with the antibiotic treatment your son is receiving.
 And what you might do-what's better than using colloidal silver-is
 investigate electromagnetic stimulation for bone healing, a treatment that
 is backed by scientific evidence.
 Dr. Andrew Weil 

Does anyone have any idea what studies Dr. Weil is referring to in the
statement above? Roger


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RE: CSRE:plaque in blood

[James Osbourne, Holmes]

Directly? 

James-Osbourne: Holmes

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Sent: Friday, June 29, 2001 6:09 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSRE:plaque in blood

Dottie,
According to Judith's article it is, but better for you compared to what?
I don't drink milk. If I did however, I would drink raw milk and most
likely from a goat.


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Re: CSA question of ticks and lyme

[Ode Coyote]

  The very small tick may or may not be a deer tick.  Adult deer ticks are
about an 8th inch. The tick 'nymph' or what we call a 'seed tick' is very
small. It's the same tick in a different stage of it's life cycle.
 Lymes is pretty rare especially if you get that tick off within 3 hours.
Usually one gets flu like symptoms and  the spreading rash or bullseye, but
not always.

 Also be aware of Rocky Mountain Spotted Fever which can kill ya pretty quick.
 

 I always check for ticks several times after walking in the woods.
There's something that we locals call tic paranoia, lasting hours to
days, where every little tickle promotes nudity and inspection. [more fun
in mixed company :-)]

If a dog gets a tick in its ear, the dog can be paralyzed till it's pulled
out. If the tick is allowed to drop off, you'll have Sagans [billions and
billions] of ticks around...starting with seed ticks.
 I don't know if dogs get or carry Lymes disease but it's a good idea to
de-tick them every day.

  As a former forestry worker, I've had ticks on me that were so thick that
the blue on my jeans was not visible and they had to be scraped off with a
knife before they dug in.  WAY FREAKY!!!

 Fun with ticks...
 They can run around on the bottom of a jar full of methonol for a long time.
 Lots of fun to touch with a butane pocket torch. Sometimes they'll imitate
a ballistic missile!  Ready, aim, FIRE  pop!
 Place ticks on the burner of a kerosene lamp and watch them do laps! 
 Pull off their legs on one side and watch them walk in circles.

 Guinea hens and chickens love ticks...for supper.

Hey, what's that little spot??? Oh  a Freckle whew!
 Ken


At 07:38 AM 6/29/01 EDT, you wrote:
In a message dated 6/28/01 9:59:06 PM EST, sam...@snowcrest.net writes:

 bj:   CSA question of ticks and lyme
 Date:  6/28/01 9:59:06 PM EST
 From:  sam...@snowcrest.net (Joanne)
 Reply-to:  sam...@snowcrest.net (Joanne)
 To:silver-off-topic-l...@yahoogroups.com, silver-list@eskimo.com
(silver 
list)
 
 Last week I was visiting my daughter about 30 miles East of 
Sacramento.(California) We went for a walk with the kids and the dog.  After 
we got back we found a tick on the dog.  Later that day while shopping a
tick 
fell off me.  After we got home Nancy found two ticks on her.  The next
day I 
found another one on me. Today, three days later and three showers later, 
after I got home, I found two more on me.   Except for the first one they
all 
had a hold of me and were digging in.  The clothes I was wearing were not 
even with me  in Sacramento.The questions are:
 Where were those ticks for three days?  
 Do all ticks carry lyme?
 If they do and one gets it what are the symptoms to watch for?  My daughter 
was concerned as there apparently are  ticks around her place this year.  I 
told her I would try and get some info. for her as I know some of you have 
had to deal with lyme.
 Thank you
 
 Joanne
 I am posting this to both lists
  

Joanne: I'm sure there are others much more knowledgeable than I, and I may 
be dead wrong as well, but here goes anyway. Those ticks could have 
transferred themselves to other clothing, or your pets and back to your body 
during those three days, or been on your body the whole time. There's no way 
to know. If you can see the tick easily, i.e., its an eighth to a quarter of 
an inch in size, it is NOT a deer tick which is extremely small and very 
difficult to see. It's the deer tick which carries Lyme disease and even 
among deer ticks, only about 3% actually carry the Lyme bacteria. 
Furthermore, even IF you HAD a Lyme infected deer tick on your body, there
is 
no certainty, by any means, that it will infect you. However, one way to 
PROMOTE infection from any tick, since all ticks carry infectious bacteria, 
is to attempt to remove it with a tweezers, or other means that induces it
to 
regurgitate bacterial containing fluids into your bloodstream. I would be 
VERY cautious about removing a tick. If fact, have an expert do it. As far
as 
your pets are concerned, my vet once told me it's far safer to allow them to 
fall off rather then attempt to pull them off yourself. If you are infected 
with Lyme bacteria, a bulls-eye shaped redness MAY appear around the bite. 
Check with your doctor to get further help. Roger


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Re: CSRE:plaque in blood

[Ode Coyote]

 Being strapped udder ,er , under a milk cow carrying dynamite?

 Happens every day!
 Why do you think they keep cows out in the country AND away from the farm
house?
 People rarely ride cows for a very good reason!
 I mean, there's nitrogen in the air and glycerin comes from making soap
from animal fats, so, don't wash your lactating cows in the open air! OK?
Ken


At 08:57 PM 6/28/01 -0700, you wrote:
Under what conditions would a person have milk coursing through their body 
at 40,000 pounds of pressure?


Original Message Follows
From: Judith Thamm galing...@chariot.net.au
Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CSRE:plaque in blood
Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 17:29:44 +0930

Dear Solar,
You said:
 Heart disease is now being linked with bacteria. Yep. That includes
coronary artery disease. Plaques on the arterial wall are now thought
to be places where your body is trying to cover over damage caused by
bacteria. Add into this mix the heliobacter that cause ulcers, and you
are starting to see a trend develop.

Go to www.notmilk.com and read about homogenised milk - milk forced through
fine gauze at 40,000 pounds pressure.  This causes the hormone IGF-1
[Insulin Like Growth Factor No. 1 which is identical in cows and humans] to
splinter into dangerous shards that are so fine they can pass through the
walls of blood vessels leaving a hole where blood could leak out.  Remember
1 drop of blood contains 5,000,000 -give or take one or two - red blood
corpuscles, and it needs only a minute hole to sneak out.  A message goes to
the brain - we have a leak!  The brain promptly sends a message to the
live - make some cholesterol and go to such and such and plaster the inside
of the wall of the blood vessel...

So we drink milk and consume dairy products and wail - I can't get my blood
cholesterol down!  My doctor says my liver won't stop making it!  Why is
there so much heart problems around - the blood can't get through!  Why is
every cancer growing so fast? It's being pushed along by the hormone too.
Still drinking milk, eating cheese, gobbling yoghurt?

Look for the obvious culprit.

Judith.





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Re: CSDoggie-help please!

[wep49]

On 29 Jun 2001, at 14:18, Yvonne and Mickey - BIO-SIL wrote:

 1. My German Sheppies nearly 10 years old - brother  has very stiff
 joints and doesn't move with the ease and grace he used to possess
Things to try:
colloid of gold
alkalinize/oxygenate (peroxide, other oxygenation products, 

ozonated water)
glucosamine 

 2.
 anal fistulae (bacteria which literally burrow through the 
intestines and right out the back under tail).

I've seen two terrible infections clear up with a paste made from 
goldenseal powder and colloidal silver applied topically.

the first was a man who had an infection behind his right ear which 
had started to red line down his neck.  After the first application  
(held in place with a dressing ) he woke in the middle of the night 
with pus and blood oozing down his neck.  He healed nomally after 
that just changing the dressing.

Second was a young tom cat who regularly came home cut to shreds.
he got a belly puncture wound and overnight it swelled to the size of 
a small grapefruit.  I wrapped his belly with a gauze dressing and 
the CS goldenseal paste.  Next day it popped blood and pus all over 
the place.  healed fine except every two or three weeks he'd come 
back in with his freshly healed belly ripped open and we'd repeat the 
CS goldenseal applications til it healed again.

Can't say enough about the CS goldenseal paste's ability to heal 
nasty infection. 
Would also try:
 alkalinize/oxygenate (peroxide, other oxygenation products,

ozonated water, topically and internally

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Re: CSMold in walls and carpet - How to get rid of

[wep49]

checkout:
http://www.environmentsensitive.com/air.html

On 29 Jun 2001, at 10:12, svr9...@att.net wrote:

 Any ideas how to eliminate
 the mold?  Even if the sheetrock and carpets were replaced, would the
 mold still likely be in the walls?  Would a spray of CS work?  Anyone
 know how to test for the presence of mold it it is not readily
 visible?


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CSDr. Weil and CS and Quackwatch and Dr. Weil and ...

[ROGALTMAN]

List: I tried using Dr. Weil's website under Ask Dr. Weil. Given below is 
my question together with their answer. BTW, is Dr. Weil Y2K ready or is he 
suffering from some sort of 1940s style bug? 

On Saturday, August 17, 1940, ro...@odin.direct-alliance.com wrote:
Roger Altman asks...
In answer to a related question about colloidal silver, Dr.
Weil said, Medical literature also contains reports of
neurological problems that developed in long-term users of oral
silver products. As a long term colloidal silver user, I'm hoping that Dr. 
Weil
could privide more details about his concerns. References to
specific studies that he has relied upon to make certain
conclusions about colliodal silver would be greatly
appreciated. 

Answer: Try searching on quackwatch under colloidal sliver and there are 
medical links on the bottom of the page. 

List: This is the ultimate irony: Dr. Weil seems to be relying on 
Quackwatch's opinions about CS, the very place where he receives bucket loads 
of daily criticism for his anti-establishment medical advice. Go figure. 
Roger


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CSNCH Tone Generator

[Ed Kasper]

I just downloaded a NCH Tone Generator from www.nch.com.au
and the freq charts from www.Educate-Yourself.org -Frequency Charts
has anyone used these. hey seem well set up.

Ed Kasper L.Ac., Acupuncturist  Medicinal Herbalist
Santa Cruz, California  www.happyherbalist.com
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CSre: Re: CSMold in walls and carpet - How to get rid of

[svr999a]

Thanks.  The site looks good.

Steve


 ** Original Subject: Re: CSMold in walls and carpet - How to get rid of
 ** Original Sender: we...@yahoo.com
 ** Original Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2001 16:08:51 +

 ** Original Message follows... 


 checkout:
 http://www.environmentsensitive.com/air.html
 
 On 29 Jun 2001, at 10:12, svr9...@att.net wrote:
 
  Any ideas how to eliminate
  the mold?  Even if the sheetrock and carpets were replaced, would the
  mold still likely be in the walls?  Would a spray of CS work?  Anyone
  know how to test for the presence of mold it it is not readily
  visible?
 
 
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re: CSNCH Tone Generator

[svr999a]

Dr. Jon's Alternative Health site (http://cat007.com/rlist.htm) also has a 
generator and a frequency chart.  Anyone know of a list or forum where people 
can get help understanding what the tones do, how long and how often to use the 
tones, the effect(s) should a person expect after using the tone.  Also, both 
frequency charts give SEVERAL frequencies for MANY of the conditions.  Who can 
tell us which frequency is most effective for a particular problem or, if all 
are equally effective, how long and how often should each be used?

For instance, I have a friend who has advanced Parkinson's Disease.  One 
recommended frequency on both charts is 813.  If that is used for her, how long 
should each treatment be used and how many times per day?  What should she 
expect to happen as a result of the treatments, and how soon after their start 
should there be something to feel, see or even just sense to show the 
treatments are working?

Steve


 ** Original Subject: CSNCH Tone Generator
 ** Original Sender: Ed Kasper edkas...@pacbell.net
 ** Original Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2001 17:14:15 +

 ** Original Message follows... 


 I just downloaded a NCH Tone Generator from www.nch.com.au
 and the freq charts from www.Educate-Yourself.org -Frequency Charts
 has anyone used these. hey seem well set up.
 
 Ed Kasper L.Ac., Acupuncturist  Medicinal Herbalist
 Santa Cruz, California  www.happyherbalist.com
 e-mail e...@happyherbalist.com
 
 
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CSFW: CSNCH Tone Generator

[Roger Daymude]

Unless things have changed using these generators through your PC's sound 
card won't work. The card isn't accurate in reproducing the frequencies.

I have listened to it for hours at a time with no results. Some on the rife 
news group were trying to get a good one going. I guess if you have the 
skills to adapt an amplifier and pull it off the PC's internal speaker you 
can have a pad device.


Raji
-Original Message-
From:   svr9...@att.net [SMTP:svr9...@att.net]
Sent:   Friday, June 29, 2001 4:36 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject:re: CSNCH Tone Generator

Dr. Jon's Alternative Health site (http://cat007.com/rlist.htm) also has a 
generator and a frequency chart.  Anyone know of a list or forum where 
people can get help understanding what the tones do, how long and how often 
to use the tones, the effect(s) should a person expect after using the 
tone.  Also, both frequency charts give SEVERAL frequencies for MANY of the 
conditions.  Who can tell us which frequency is most effective for a 
particular problem or, if all are equally effective, how long and how often 
should each be used?

For instance, I have a friend who has advanced Parkinson's Disease.  One 
recommended frequency on both charts is 813.  If that is used for her, how 
long should each treatment be used and how many times per day?  What 
should she expect to happen as a result of the treatments, and how soon 
after their start should there be something to feel, see or even just sense 
to show the treatments are working?

Steve


 ** Original Subject: CSNCH Tone Generator
 ** Original Sender: Ed Kasper edkas...@pacbell.net
 ** Original Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2001 17:14:15 +

 ** Original Message follows...


 I just downloaded a NCH Tone Generator from www.nch.com.au
 and the freq charts from www.Educate-Yourself.org -Frequency Charts
 has anyone used these. hey seem well set up.

 Ed Kasper L.Ac., Acupuncturist  Medicinal Herbalist
 Santa Cruz, California  www.happyherbalist.com
 e-mail e...@happyherbalist.com


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CSARGYIA

[larry tankersley]

 Anyone ever read this paper? It's from PUBMED.

Argyria following the use of dietary supplements containing colloidal
silver protein.
Gulbranson SH, Hud JA, Hansen RC.
Good Samaritan Regional Medical Center, Phoenix, Arizona 85006, USA.
The onset of argyria following the use of dietary supplements containing
colloidal silver protein is presented. The patient was using a
silver-containing product for cold and allergy prophylaxis. We review
the past and present medicinal roles of silver and include a
differential diagnosis for argyria. The hyperpigmentation of argyria is
usually permanent, and it follows a sun-exposed distribution. This case
report highlights the potential for toxicity following the use of
dietary supplements and demonstrates the importance of physician inquiry
regarding alternative medicines. Finally, we examine the limited role of
the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) in regulating alternative
medicines marketed as dietary supplements.
MeSH Terms: 
Argyria/etiology*
Argyria/diagnosis
Argyria/blood
Case Report
Colloids
Dietary Supplements*
Human
Male
Middle Age
Nails*
Silver/blood
Silver/administration  dosage*
Substances: 
Silver
Colloids
PMID: 11107524 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE



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RE: CSARGYIA

[James Osbourne, Holmes]

NOTE...colloidal silver protein...

James-Osbourne: Holmes

-Original Message-
From: larry tankersley [mailto:la...@webtv.net]
Sent: Friday, June 29, 2001 4:48 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CSARGYIA

 Anyone ever read this paper? It's from PUBMED.

Argyria following the use of dietary supplements containing colloidal
silver protein.
Gulbranson SH, Hud JA, Hansen RC.
Good Samaritan Regional Medical Center, Phoenix, Arizona 85006, USA.
The onset of argyria following the use of dietary supplements containing
colloidal silver protein is presented. The patient was using a
silver-containing product for cold and allergy prophylaxis. We review
the past and present medicinal roles of silver and include a
differential diagnosis for argyria. The hyperpigmentation of argyria is
usually permanent, and it follows a sun-exposed distribution. This case
report highlights the potential for toxicity following the use of
dietary supplements and demonstrates the importance of physician inquiry
regarding alternative medicines. Finally, we examine the limited role of
the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) in regulating alternative
medicines marketed as dietary supplements.
MeSH Terms:
Argyria/etiology*
Argyria/diagnosis
Argyria/blood
Case Report
Colloids
Dietary Supplements*
Human
Male
Middle Age
Nails*
Silver/blood
Silver/administration  dosage*
Substances:
Silver
Colloids
PMID: 11107524 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE



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RE: CSARGYIA

[Ivan Anderson]

I would like to see this paper, I believe it was presented in one of the
dermatology journals, Cutis Nov 2000.

I notice that the abstract in part says,
This case report highlights the potential for toxicity following the use of
dietary supplements and demonstrates the importance of physician inquiry
regarding alternative medicines. Finally, we examine the limited role of the
Food and Drug Administration (FDA) in regulating alternative medicines
marketed as dietary supplements.

and thereby becomes an opinion piece rather than a scientific document, and
I wouldn't be surprised if it was somewhat biased ;-)

Ivan.

 -Original Message-
 From: larry tankersley [mailto:la...@webtv.net]
 Sent: Saturday, 30 June 2001 10:48
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Subject: CSARGYIA


  Anyone ever read this paper? It's from PUBMED.
 
 Argyria following the use of dietary supplements containing colloidal
 silver protein.
 Gulbranson SH, Hud JA, Hansen RC.
 Good Samaritan Regional Medical Center, Phoenix, Arizona 85006, USA.
 The onset of argyria following the use of dietary supplements containing
 colloidal silver protein is presented. The patient was using a
 silver-containing product for cold and allergy prophylaxis. We review
 the past and present medicinal roles of silver and include a
 differential diagnosis for argyria. The hyperpigmentation of argyria is
 usually permanent, and it follows a sun-exposed distribution. This case
 report highlights the potential for toxicity following the use of
 dietary supplements and demonstrates the importance of physician inquiry
 regarding alternative medicines. Finally, we examine the limited role of
 the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) in regulating alternative
 medicines marketed as dietary supplements.
 MeSH Terms:
 Argyria/etiology*
 Argyria/diagnosis
 Argyria/blood
 Case Report
 Colloids
 Dietary Supplements*
 Human
 Male
 Middle Age
 Nails*
 Silver/blood
 Silver/administration  dosage*
 Substances:
 Silver
 Colloids
 PMID: 11107524 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE



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Re: CSnew here and had a few questions

[terry parker]

According to the information I read, healthy people can tolerate 10-15 grams daily before diarrhea hits, butpeople who are sick can tolerate much morepresumably because the C is engaged in fighting the disease. I cannot attest by experience, though; the most I've taken is about 10 grams.

From: cking...@nycap.rr.com 
Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Subject: Re: CSnew here and had a few questions 
Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2001 13:47:36 -0400 
 
My experience with high doses of C is that on the first day you may get the 
runs, but the same dose on the second day and thereafter will be OK. 
 Chuck 
 
Gonorrhea: how a New Englander describes vacationing in Brazil. 
 
On Tue, 26 Jun 2001 11:50:27 -0400, "Dick Tanguay" wrote: 
 
 It is my understanding that around 14 - 15 grams of vitamin C and diarrhea 
 begins whereby you are cautioned to cut back until the diarrhea stops. 
 Taking 50 grams, there would be nothing left but a pair of shoes. :-) 
 Dick 
 
 
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CSDr.Weil Co.

[jrowland]

Two years ago, I contacted Weil's Arizona office about my Phoenix
uncle's medical problem.  Was told it would be four months before an
opening would occur, and made an appointment.  Called three months later
only to be told he was no longer taking new patients.  Asked why weren't
we told, as we were depending on it.  Was told abruptly shouldn't
depend on anyone.  Obviously!
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CSVitamin D

[Ivan Anderson]

IT is becoming increasingly obvious that Vit D deficiency is widespread
throughout the western populations (probably due to the large amount of time
spent indoors and the avoidance of direct sun-light and prevalence of
coating the skin with sunscreen).
It has been found that supplementation with Vit D (up to 10,000 IU per day)
can be valuable in treating MS and Chrone's disease, and may prevent and
reverse other auto-immune diseases (psoriasis, arthritis etc.)
Vitamin D supplements should be accompanied by calcium and magnesium.

I thought some may be interested in the latest thinking among main stream
researchers:


Dietary and Nutritional Influences on Skeletal Health – A Review of Current
Knowledge and Future Perspectives
Susan A. New, PhD


The role of dietary intake and nutritional status on skeletal health, in the
earlier and later years of the life cycle, remains to be fully quantified.
As a modifiable lifestyle factor, influencing both peak bone mass
development in the younger population and the rate of bone loss in older age
groups, it is an area of considerable public health concern.[1] A number of
key papers were presented at the 22nd Annual General Meeting of the American
Society for Bone and Mineral Research held in Toronto, Canada (September
22-26, 2000), on nutrition and bone health.

Evidence of Vitamin D Insufficiency Among Population Groups: Consequences
for Bone Health
Vitamin D is derived from 2 sources, namely endogenous (skin) and exogenous
(diet), with the major source being the exposure of skin to the ultraviolet
B-rays contained in sunlight.[2] The action of sunlight on the skin converts
7-dehydrocholesterol to previtamin D, which is then metabolized to vitamin D
by a temperature-dependent isomerization. The vitamin D is transported, via
the general circulation, to the liver, where the enzyme 25-hydroxylase
converts it to 25-hydroxyvitamin D (25-[OH]D). Further conversion to 1,25
(OH)2D3 occurs in the kidney. 25-OHD is the main circulating vitamin D
metabolite and is the best indicator of clinical status, whereas 1,25 OH2D3
is the active form of the vitamin, which is involved in calcium
homeostasis.[3]
The amount and strength of ultraviolet light is known to vary with both
latitude and season; thus, differences have been reported to be lower in the
winter and to vary with different geographic areas worldwide. However, the
variation, globally, of vitamin D status and the clinical diagnosis of
vitamin D deficiency remains unclarified because of the large
interlaboratory differences in assays for serum 25-(OH)D.

Of considerable interest in the area of vitamin D research were the findings
of a global study of vitamin D status and parathyroid function in
postmenopausal women with osteoporosis presented by Lips and colleagues,[4]
on behalf of the MORE [Multiple Outcomes of Raloxifene Evaluation] Study
Group. Data were collected from the international MORE trial, a large
prospective clinical intervention trial. Baseline data on serum 25-(OH)D and
serum parathyroid hormone (PTH), obtained from 7564 postmenopausal women,
were analyzed. These women were from 25 countries spanning 5 continents.
Serum 25-(OH)D was found to be lower than 25nmol/L (the lower level of the
normal range) in 4.1% of all women in the MORE study (with 8.3% of women
coming from Southern Europe). Bone mineral density (BMD) was found to be 4%
lower in women with serum 25(OH)D below 25nmol/L. The results also suggested
that women with low vitamin D levels ( 25 nmol/L) had 30% higher serum PTH
values and higher levels of alkaline phosphatase (a marker of bone
formation).

Vitamin D status is affected by the aging process, and there is now evidence
in the literature to show that vitamin D levels: (1) fall with age,[5] (2)
have a seasonal variation (being lowest in the fall/winter),[6] and (3); are
inversely related to PTH[7] (which is also known to have a seasonal
variation).[8] Menopausal bone loss has been shown to be partially regulated
by dietary intake of vitamin D.[9] The elderly population is of considerable
concern with respect to the nutritional status of vitamin D, and there is
now good data to suggest that this is a group who is at considerable risk of
vitamin D insufficiency/deficiency.[10]

Despite several key published studies which show convincingly that vitamin D
supplementation (with calcium) reduces fracture rates in
institutionalized[11] and free-living elderly populations[12] and improves
calcium absorption, lowers PTH levels, and reduces wintertime bone loss in
postmenopausal women,[13] there is still a considerable lack of awareness of
this public health nutrition message. In an interesting paper presented by
Grados and colleagues,[14] supplementation with 500 mg of calcium and 400 IU
of vitamin D3, twice a day for 12 months in a group of 95 elderly women with
vitamin D insufficiency (mean age, 74.2 years +/- 6.4 years) resulted in (1)
significant increases in BMD at the femoral neck, femoral 

Re: CSDoggie-help please!

[Joanne]

Wow Brooks..10 dogs.!!I thought I had a lot of critters here...My little
Pebbles who died about 4 years ago was a little throw away dog.  Our little
Yorkie was used for breeding and then became  useless so she was another
throw away dog.  One of our cats we got at age 11 who was the product of a
broken home and no longer wanted.  Two of my son's dogs are grocery store
mutts.  He does a lot of work with service dogs.

 http://www.usadogs.org

Bless you for giving these animals a place to be loved for the remainder of
their journey on earth.

Joanne
www.snowcrest.net/samijo

- Original Message -
From: brooks bradley liat...@flash.net
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2001 8:28 PM
Subject: Re: CSDoggie-help please!


 Dear Yvonne,
 German Shepards are notorious for hip dysplasia problems.  Years ago
we
 came across an ancillary protocol which worked splendidly for us (in
fact
 it saved our 15 yro Shepard from having to be put down).  We instigated
the
 use of alfalfa (in tablet form), at a quantity of 1200 mg per day ---for
 three days---then reduced the dosage to 800 mg thereafter.  Within 4 days
he
 could get up unassisted and almost pain-free.  Within 10 days he was
 completely pain-free and continued to be so for the remainder of his life.
 He lived on to the age of 18 years.passing on from more natural causes
 of advanced ageunrelated to his dysplasia.  The alfalfa protocol was
 required as a continuing protocol for the remainder of his life.  Whenever
 it was discontinued for five continuous days, his dysplasia symptoms would
 start to reappear.  We have, since, used this protocol to assist in many
 cases of  articulating joint problems in dogs (my wife and I still have
 10all throwaways by considerate humans---7 of which are advanced in
 age [ 12 or older]..none of which exhibit arthritis.  We give them
 alfalfa (three standard tablets daily for small dogs and eight tablets for
 large ones), together with glucosamine
 sulphate capsules/tablets @ 50 mg per 15 lbs body-weight..  If one has
many
 dogsor is economy minded.the use of powdered alfalfa (obtainable
 from any feed store) at the rate of 1 teaspoon dailymixed into their
 moisturized-food, has proven to be a most valuable health support.
 Regarding the lower intestinal tract bacterial affliction..you
 might consider the following modification:   Using a small bulb-type
 syringe, give the dog an enema solution  containing 80% CS (10 to 20 ppm)
 and 20% DMSO.  Lower DMSO concentration to 15% if dog exhibits noticeable
 stress from tissue irritation.  Repeat this protocol three times daily at
4
 hour intervals.  The odds for bacterial control---using this
protocol---are
 quite high and any side effects quite benign.
 I wish you the very best good fortune in preserving and
 extending the healthy and happy life of your beloved pet.
 Sincerely, Brooks Bradley.
 Disclaimer.  Please remember, we are not veterinarians and DO NOT practice
 veterinary medicine.  These are simply some of the EXPERIMENTAL protocols
we
 have evaluated over the past years.


 - Original Message -
 From: Yvonne and Mickey - BIO-SIL bio...@worldonline.co.za
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Sent: Friday, June 29, 2001 7:18 AM
 Subject: CSDoggie-help please!


  Hi there!   I'm not sure if this is a repeat but I never saw it appear
on
  the list so think original message may have gotten lost in cyberspace!
 
  If anyone can help I'd be most grateful:
  1. My German Sheppies nearly 10 years old - brother  has very stiff
joints
  and doesn't move with the ease and grace he used to possess
  2. His sister has an apparently common to GSDs problem - which is anal
  fistulae (bacteria which literally burrow through the intestines and
right
  out the back under tail).   Vets we've consulted and whose treatments
have
  not worked, say there is no cure and kindest move is to euthanase.
Well,
  this is not an option to me right now as she seems fairly happy
otherwise.
  The part under her tail looks 'raw' and is quite malodourous.   I am of
  course giving CS internally and spraying directly.
 
  Thank you kindly!
  Yvonne :o)
 
 
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Re: CSA question of ticks and lyme

[Joanne]

Thank you for the tick-lyme info.  I will forward it to my daughter.  I
think they will probably walk someplace else...Ken your story about all the
ticks on you was gross...yuck..I can't imagine being covered with that many
ticks...

Joanne
www.snowcrest.net/samijo

- Original Message -
From: Ode Coyote coy...@alltel.net
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Friday, June 29, 2001 8:38 AM
Subject: Re: CSA question of ticks and lyme


   The very small tick may or may not be a deer tick.  Adult deer ticks are
 about an 8th inch. The tick 'nymph' or what we call a 'seed tick' is very
 small. It's the same tick in a different stage of it's life cycle.
  Lymes is pretty rare especially if you get that tick off within 3 hours.
 Usually one gets flu like symptoms and  the spreading rash or bullseye,
but
 not always.

  Also be aware of Rocky Mountain Spotted Fever which can kill ya pretty
quick.


  I always check for ticks several times after walking in the woods.
 There's something that we locals call tic paranoia, lasting hours to
 days, where every little tickle promotes nudity and inspection. [more fun
 in mixed company :-)]

 If a dog gets a tick in its ear, the dog can be paralyzed till it's pulled
 out. If the tick is allowed to drop off, you'll have Sagans [billions
and
 billions] of ticks around...starting with seed ticks.
  I don't know if dogs get or carry Lymes disease but it's a good idea to
 de-tick them every day.

   As a former forestry worker, I've had ticks on me that were so thick
that
 the blue on my jeans was not visible and they had to be scraped off with a
 knife before they dug in.  WAY FREAKY!!!

  Fun with ticks...
  They can run around on the bottom of a jar full of methonol for a long
time.
  Lots of fun to touch with a butane pocket torch. Sometimes they'll
imitate
 a ballistic missile!  Ready, aim, FIRE  pop!
  Place ticks on the burner of a kerosene lamp and watch them do laps!
  Pull off their legs on one side and watch them walk in circles.

  Guinea hens and chickens love ticks...for supper.

 Hey, what's that little spot??? Oh  a Freckle whew!
  Ken


 At 07:38 AM 6/29/01 EDT, you wrote:
 In a message dated 6/28/01 9:59:06 PM EST, sam...@snowcrest.net writes:
 
  bj:   CSA question of ticks and lyme
  Date:  6/28/01 9:59:06 PM EST
  From:  sam...@snowcrest.net (Joanne)
  Reply-to:  sam...@snowcrest.net (Joanne)
  To:silver-off-topic-l...@yahoogroups.com, silver-list@eskimo.com
 (silver
 list)
 
  Last week I was visiting my daughter about 30 miles East of
 Sacramento.(California) We went for a walk with the kids and the dog.
After
 we got back we found a tick on the dog.  Later that day while shopping a
 tick
 fell off me.  After we got home Nancy found two ticks on her.  The next
 day I
 found another one on me. Today, three days later and three showers later,
 after I got home, I found two more on me.   Except for the first one they
 all
 had a hold of me and were digging in.  The clothes I was wearing were not
 even with me  in Sacramento.The questions are:
  Where were those ticks for three days?
  Do all ticks carry lyme?
  If they do and one gets it what are the symptoms to watch for?  My
daughter
 was concerned as there apparently are  ticks around her place this year.
I
 told her I would try and get some info. for her as I know some of you
have
 had to deal with lyme.
  Thank you
 
  Joanne
  I am posting this to both lists
   
 
 Joanne: I'm sure there are others much more knowledgeable than I, and I
may
 be dead wrong as well, but here goes anyway. Those ticks could have
 transferred themselves to other clothing, or your pets and back to your
body
 during those three days, or been on your body the whole time. There's no
way
 to know. If you can see the tick easily, i.e., its an eighth to a quarter
of
 an inch in size, it is NOT a deer tick which is extremely small and very
 difficult to see. It's the deer tick which carries Lyme disease and even
 among deer ticks, only about 3% actually carry the Lyme bacteria.
 Furthermore, even IF you HAD a Lyme infected deer tick on your body,
there
 is
 no certainty, by any means, that it will infect you. However, one way to
 PROMOTE infection from any tick, since all ticks carry infectious
bacteria,
 is to attempt to remove it with a tweezers, or other means that induces
it
 to
 regurgitate bacterial containing fluids into your bloodstream. I would be
 VERY cautious about removing a tick. If fact, have an expert do it. As
far
 as
 your pets are concerned, my vet once told me it's far safer to allow them
to
 fall off rather then attempt to pull them off yourself. If you are
infected
 with Lyme bacteria, a bulls-eye shaped redness MAY appear around the
bite.
 Check with your doctor to get further help. Roger
 
 
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Re: CSDoggie-help please!

[Daniel Hernandez]

You might also try MSM in capsule form. (Methol Sulfanol Methane) organic
sulfur can be bought at almost any health food store. I think I spelled
it right. Daniel


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