CSLunar CS making
I've been to places where you could literally walk up the side of a wall due to unexplained differences in gravity and the Earth's electromagnetic field. Watching a ball roll up hill is an interesting experience to get the mind working out of the box, though being in such an area can disturb the body to the point of developing an upset stomach similiar to being sea sick! I recall seeing, many years ago, a TV special on the weird and wonderful that featured an odd house called the spot or the place where just such apparent phenomena were recorded on camera. Turned out though it was all careful illusion - the house was built with oddly sloping walls, floor and ceiling that tricked the senses. It is obvious that these associations indicate that the entire process of the electrochemical production of colloidal silver is ruled by lunar influence. For that matter, all chemical processes are inextricably directed by celestial authority. It is essential to understand then, when the most propitious times occur to conceive these suspensions. With respect to the production of colloidal silver, lunar influence tables must be consulted. We know that tides are a direct manifestation of lunar forces, but there are also atmospheric tides which play an important role in the understanding of how the moon affects chemical reactions. Witches and those of a similar ilk may well concur with that, but thankfully today chemistry has supplanted alchemy. It is the extreme reproducibility of chemical and more generally physical process and law that enables scientists to verify and exchange results to great accuracy on a worldwide basis; quite regardless of moon phases or other astrological signs. Or do we conclude that those tables of constants running to 6, 8, 10, even to 20 or more significant figures are a massive fraud - a pretense at accuracies rendered impossible because For that matter, all chemical processes are inextricably directed by celestial authority? Not likely, I would suggest. Plutarch instructed that the full moon caused such an increase in moisture that it made timber, wheat, and other grains which were cut at this time more likely to become decayed and rotten. If cut at the new moon, they would be dry and brittle. The medieval medical practise of bleeding was to be governed according to lunar phases and their attendant proportions of moisture.. Dr. E. J. Andrews, in 1960, confirmed that bleeding is worse around full moons than at any other time. Thousands of post-op records were compared to the dates of lunar phases showing a remarkable 82 percent of post-op bleeding episodes occurred on or around the full moon. Several other researchers and doctors would confirm his findings. Here, in the realm of subtle biochemical and physiological/phsychological phenomena, there is indeed plenty of evidence for some kind of lunar phase association, but little if any in the way of a credible mechanism for lunar causation. Since it has been demonstrated that mental activity can influence matter perhaps the mental state of the experimenter may influence the production of CS. Considering there are people like Uri Geller in this wondrous universe, you may have a point Uri Geller has nothing top do with it. Quantum physicists are learning that the observer influences the observed. The utcome is different for different observers. This has nothing to do with bending spoons, whether truly done with the mind, or slight of hand. Uri Geller was long ago exposed by Randi as a fraud. The quantum mechanical conundrum of interlinked observer and observed plays out on an extremely delicate level, in accordance with strict probabilistic rules that have nothing to do with mental attitude affecting chemical reactions, and most certainly not on a macroscopic scale. I have proven using a scanning spectorphotometer that one's thoughts can easily and consistently change the structure of water.. Procedures required that anything we ship meet quality assurance, but the IBM personal computer was so poorly designed an built that QC would not approve it. The president forced them to ship them anyway, but I had the very strong opinion that they were all unreliable pieces of junk. Well, we all got IBM computers to work with in engineering, and mine would constantly bomb and lock up. I could not do anything for more than a few minutes without it crashing. They would ship it back and get another one and it would do the same. I would go to the other engineers offices and see if they were having the same problem, but they would all report that theirs never crashed, except when I would go in and ask, then they would crash. It got where I was not allowed in the other engineers' offices when they were working on their computers because they claimed I crashed their system. Anyway, they finally allowed me to build a clone computer for about 1/4th the cost of an IBM, and it never
Re: CSLunar Influence on the Production of Electrochemical Colloidal Silver.htm
This information prompted the idea that lunar influence could produce exceptional differences in the quality of electrochemically produced colloidal silver. We immediately began preparing the necessary experimental equipment for the upcoming lunar eclipse (March 23, 1997, 8:45PM PST). Two CS-300 colloidal silver generators were used for the electrochemical process and a digital countdown timer would ensure that each batch ran for the exact prescribed time of 20 minutes. The first and second of four batches were initiated just prior to, and during the eclipse, and the last two just after the eclipse. The electrodes were checked and cleaned before each batch was run to assure a consistent voltage throughout the experimental run. The water used was distilled and was provided from the same bottle, and then pre-measured into 8 oz. glasses of identical size and make. Normal batches of colloidal silver produced in this way yield a count of about 6000 to 8000 ppb (parts per billion) of silver. ## No two generators are exactly the same [the best electronic componants are rated at +/- 1 %] and as little as .1 ma and/or 1 volt output difference can make a largish difference in timed batches. Nor was water temperature or room temperature factored into this experiment. These are macro factors that can change within minutes and they do affect results, sometimes dramatically. The change in behavior due to the full moon may have more to do with additional light than tidal forces. I know I find it hard to sleep during a full moon just because it's lighter out. That's not to say there are no other forces that make a difference, but that added light is a macro effect that no one seems to consider. I'm sure that everyone is aware of the subjective time perception problems that come up when daylight savings time goes into effect. Much behavior is light triggered. Ken -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSlaser pointers on sale
Good point. I guess a full spectrum laser would have to be used to detect proportions of whatever sized particles. Not too darned easy. ken At 11:05 AM 12/26/01 -0500, you wrote: Considering that the tyndall goes up by the 4th power of the size, it would be impossible to measure any ppm unless you knew the size and all the particles were the same. Marshall -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCS started too late.
It seems to me that the first day or so is when the cold is going strong...that beat with a lead pipe feeling... and all the rest of the discomfort is just cleaning house and the bugs themselves are pretty much already killed off. The trick is to treat a cold before it takes over and loads the body up with trash that must be taken out regardless of what killed it off. The sooner that's done, the less trash is produced. Ken At 04:12 PM 12/26/01 -0600, you wrote: Dear Listers, I have been making CS for just a short time and am now in the middle of trying to cure myself and family of our first colds of the winter. Symptoms are sinus congestion, very dry nasal passages, tight upper chest. No fevers. CS is allowing break up of green stuff. Have been taking 2oz of CS in orange juice 3 to 4 times a day, as well as using as nose spray. It has been 5 days now and only slight difference. I thought that house was too dry so now have big pot boiling on the stove. Relative humidity has increased 10% in 5hrs. Feels better. Probably just started too late. My production of CS is 8oz per batch and is clear to pale yellow. I know that the amount that I have taken is working because I now have the beginnings of a yeast infection. So have stopped ingesting CS and will continue with nasal CS spray. Will start with Acidolphilus capsules. Could there be something wrong with the way I'm making the CS? I am following written instructions. My best guess is that we didn't start taking it soon enough to stop infection until it was full blown. Any suggestions would be helpful. Am not as knowledgeable about chemistry or science as those that discuss all of the details here. I do have Rheu. Arth. and need to know about any holistic method for alkalizing my body. I had to resort to getting a shot of prednesone from the Doc just to get through all the preparation for christmas. Everyone thought it was funny that the great cook had to ask others to 'taste this' and 'taste that' because I couldn't taste anything with my stopped up nose. Thanks, Relynda Attachment Converted: c:\eudora\attach\Clear Day Bkgrd.jpg -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSLunar CS making
It's pretty obvious that making colloidal silver is by no means a simple
process as evidenced by the volume of messages on this list.
Our only saving grace is that a really wide range of results does the job.
Hammers, regardless of size , shape or style of swinging it... drive nails.
{If it won't, maybe it's not a hammer}
Ken
At 10:38 AM 12/26/01 -0700, you wrote:
Marshall said it well, and is what I had in mind but didn't communicate it
very well. The Borderlands article is interesting, but is only one data
point. What is needed are more carefully conducted experiments, as Marshall
indicates, to determine that the phenomena is repeatable, and isolating the
variation to just one cause such as lunar position. Until that is done, the
one experiment is statistically insignificant.
Has anyone generated say 100 batches of CS all at once (same starting and
ending time), with as close to the same conditions as possible in a
laboratory, and determined the statistical variance of the batches with each
other? If we can't generate nearly identical batches given the nearly
identical conditions (same H2O, volume, electrode purity and wetted area,
current, temperature, ambient atmosphere, brew time, electromagnetic and
accoustic environment, (same mental attitude about each batch being
brewed???), etc.), then we must first understand why there is so
much variation before we can start introducing other variables such as moon
gravity or whatever. One would hope and expect that such an uncomplicated
procedure (e.g. simple electrolysis) could produce highly repeatable
results. Then one could feel confident in doing experiments to determine
what outside influences may affect properties of the brew.
Sadly, the large scale laboratory tests with CS likely will never be done
because those who could invest the substantial funds required would not be
able to get a return from their expenditure. We may not now know how to
make the best CS or ionic silver or mix of both yet, and we may never know
this, but at least we can feel confident that what we do make from pure
water and silver only has a high probability of improving our quality of
life. It is reassuring to see the anecdotal evidence of benefits keep
piling up from more and more people, and none of us are turning blue-gray!
--Steve
- Original Message -
See www.borderlands.com/archives/arch/lunar.htm
SNIP
However although there does seem to be evidence that the moon does have an
effect if we can believe that these experiments were really run, and
resulted
in these reported results, additional testing needs to be done to confirm
it.
First it needs to be duplicated by others, and it needs to be done with
double
blind testing. It really needs to be done again by someone who doesn't
believe
in the phenomena, since it is just as likely that the expectations of the
experimenter caused the difference as the planets.
Marshall
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Re: CSLunar CS making
Possibly the individual concerned has some special gift or a familiar spirit or whatever - I have heard several friend of a friend accounts where street lamps would die when a certain individual walked near them, only to revive again later when out of range. This kind of thing however belongs not in the chemistry, phsics, or even metaphysics of CS production, but in the supernatural realm, IMHO. This happens to me a lot, sometimes whole strings of street lights in sequence with my passing ...but it doesn't happen more times than it does and never when there's an intent. Murphys law cannot be tested? Perhaps there's a link between sychronicity and manifestation that is coupled with NOT being attached to a particular idea or outcome where the very focus on that event prevents it from happening by locking up the energy that it takes for it to manifest. [..and there does exist some sub atomic phenomenon that suggests some sort of communication with the past and future and physical time travel of small particles] Why not ideas?..but if you hold ideas in the present or project them into the future, they can't change the past in ways to run into in the future? Ya gotta let em go where they can do something. But, how could one prove that the past had been changed, especially if not aware of that particular past until a future event, as related to a present idea... forgotten about until reminded of it by the future event, brought it up? Now, THERE'S a can of worms for a lab! The wierdest most unlikly and improbable stuff happens soon after it's completely forgotten about, often enough to be really quizzical. [ I have a long personal list of the extremely improbable] Perhaps NOT telling an event how and when to happen increases the likelyhood that it can find a way to manifest [happen] in ways and by means unthought of, but with recognizable results.[along with its history and logical justification] Sorta like, if I think of a ride, forget about it and start walking, I'm likely to find a ride. But if I think Blue Mercedes as I walkit's likely that I'll be walking for a while. If I don't move and keep thinking Blue Mercedes, I might as well forget about going anywhere. [too many limitations decreases the probabilities] But if I really do forget about going anywhere, I'm [magically] already there. Humm, what IS that I'm not thinking about? [Tell ya tomorrow when hind sight clears it up] Ken -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSThe Spot
When I was in High school, I got a job one summer at a tourist attraction called, The Mystery Spot. (This is in Calif.) It was an area about 100 yards across in which gravity, it was claimed, pulled at an angle, rather than straight down. The buildings were built slanted, we were told, to accentuate the angle (which was up to about 12-18 degrees over from straight vertical). I thought it was all silliness when I first went to work there. Then I noticed certain anomalies. One of them was that everyone's digital watches were giving the wrong time, every time, several hours wrong, when the customer got out of the Spot. What this would have to do with gravity, I don't know, but it happened. Also, 2-way radios did not work in the Spot. Because this was well known, folks would bring their walky-talkys and one person would go into the Spot and one would stay in the parking lot. They could not communicate with each other. No voices, just static. Someone would bring in a long carpenters level, and lay it on a bench or step inside the Spot, and one end would clearly be higher than the other, even though the bubble showed it to be level. They had old, yellowed newspaper article clippings displayed under glass telling about the 11 other Spots that had been found around the world. There was even an article describing how a US military base in Africa had to be dismantled and moved because of all the accidents that kept happening there (car accidents, planes crashing, falling down stairs), because gravity didn't pull straight down. Interesting. __ Send your holiday cheer with http://greetings.yahoo.ca -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSLunar Influence on the Production of ElectrochemicalColloidal Silver.htm
Ode Coyote wrote: The change in behavior due to the full moon may have more to do with additional light than tidal forces. I know I find it hard to sleep during a full moon just because it's lighter out. Surely you are not suggesting that a full moon is brighter than daylight. If light had this much effect it would be obvious when making CS during the day vs during the night. Unless the spectrum is important. The moon has almost no infrared and uv in it's light like the sun does. Marshall -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSLunar CS making
I would love to continue with this discussion, but I think we best move it over to the off topic list before the moderator comes back from the holidays and puts a stop to it. Marshall Ode Coyote wrote: Possibly the individual concerned has some special gift or a familiar spirit or whatever - I have heard several friend of a friend accounts where street lamps would die when a certain individual walked near them, only to revive again later when out of range. This kind of thing however belongs not in the chemistry, phsics, or even metaphysics of CS production, but in the supernatural realm, IMHO. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSlaser pointers on sale
The amount of scattered light is defined by I = kNV^2/y^4, where k is a proportional constant, N is the number of particles, V is the volume of one particle, and y is the wavelength of the light. Since the wavelength is in the denominator alone (but to the 4th power), any difference in Tyndal due to the wavelength, will affect all sized particles proportionally the same. I had looked at this some time ago in hopes that by using different colored lasers, one could determine particle size by the difference in the proportion of the intensities of the Tyndal, but alas it just won't work. I wish it would. Marshall Ode Coyote wrote: Good point. I guess a full spectrum laser would have to be used to detect proportions of whatever sized particles. Not too darned easy. ken At 11:05 AM 12/26/01 -0500, you wrote: Considering that the tyndall goes up by the 4th power of the size, it would be impossible to measure any ppm unless you knew the size and all the particles were the same. Marshall -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSBubble Spa CS Question
Many have asked me about the Bubble Spa I was getting for Xmas, I did not know the brand name, so I waited until I had opened the package and also to try it out and see if it did all that was claimed. I decided that I would put in some Willard Water--I used 2 oz. of the undiluted (dark) and about 6 - 8 oz. of CSinto a tub of very warm water(which is spring water from the river)... The bubble spa pad did all that was claimed, in fact it was really great, more than I had expected. There was vigorous massaging from the bubbling water. My question is this.after being in the spa for about 5 - 7 minutes.I noticed that I could taste silver .there was a taste of silver in my mouth.. I stayed in the spa about 18 minutes I know that we can absorb many things through the pores of our skin and I suspect that was what was happening here..if so, 1. Does absorbing CS in bubbling warm water go to areas of the body that drinking CS does not? Or does drinking CS go everywhere also? 2. Since I could taste the CS, does that mean that the CS was in my bloodstream? 3. I could taste the CS for at least an hour afterwards, not sure how long it would have lasted, since I went to bed, I felt so relaxed and good. 4. This morning, right after getting up, I had two bowel movements about 30 minutes apartthe second movement has little white oval things about the size of the oval in the letter e.regrettably, I did not collect one of these for a sample slide..(was still sleepy and thinking of my coffee) could these have been eggs or a parasite? 5. If so, does CS work in these areas of parasites and larva? 6. Has anyone else soaked in a CS bath and had similar experiences? 7. Did the warm water and massaging action of the bubbles that stimulated the blood circulation make it possible to absorb the CS quicker? The water level was no more than waist high ,if that, because I was in a standard tub Any thoughts anyone? Oh yes, for those that asked what kind of spa bubbling pad it was and where I got itthe spa is a Conair Deluxe Thermal Spa with a remote controller..Model No. MBTS4you definitely want that I saw three or four models, (two brands) some cheaper, but they did not have all the bells and whistlesThe deluxe has a remote and you can have the bubble action speed on fast , med. or slow, also can have random action and pulsing action..I found the random was good on the body, it changed speed and action...it was also good to be able to make these selections from the tub and not have to reach the unit.This one cost me $80 on sale, it was $88 regular price..that is not a lot for the best one they had in that little store. (It is an old walmart with not much selection). I consider it money well spent. Kathy Neff -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSStates ask for more power to quarantine
http://nandotimes.com/healthscience/v-text/story/196479p-1907757c.html Marshall -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSArthritis?....and Computers?
Dear Lew, The colours on my pc are good. The monitor does not need degaussing, it is really OK for other sites and programs. I think the problem is with your site. As I said, when it arrives here the text is pale on a white background. Impossible to read. Also will not select. So I never did get to read what you had to say. Seems to me that the site is too fancy somehow. Pity about that. My guess is that your page has a dark background to which does not arrive or does not get switched on. I hope this is helpful to you. Thanks anyway, Tony FHLew wrote: Greetings Tony, Try to adjust the colours and to degauss your monitor if these facilities are in-built. Computers can play tricks when there are nearby geomagnetic interferences. Sometimes, items do not show up where they are intended to be when published in the web. Please check whether there is any problem with the Visual Display Unit. With regards Lew - Original Message - From: Tony Moody a...@new.co.za To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2001 6:19 PM Subject: Re: CSArthritis?and Computers? Hullo Lew, I have been to your site but cannot read much because of the colour.I get a white background with a light green text. Can anything be done to get a legible screen? Regards, Tony -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSSpeculation about variables in CS production
Jonathan: This phenomenon is termed Psychic Transmutation by paranormal researchers. Medical scientists have now resorted to teaching patients to visualise and to make-believe the motor or sensory functions of their paralysed anatomy. The results are very encouraging. The God-empowered gift of visualization is unique in humans.Envisioning with great intent and desire to evolve invokes a great channelling of energy bringing about a photonic kindling to effect the crossing over from the etheric to the material realm. This morphic manifestation is a result of the resonant collisions of sub-atomic particles creating matter and giving rise to Form and Pattern with self-organizing sympathetic vibrations. This forms the basis of Prof Rupert Sheldrake's thesis on Morphic Resonance Thoughts, as visible speech, heard in silent reading, meditation or dialogue, are vibrations of the bones, amplified in mineralised body cavities. The water molecules in the serous layers lining body cavities are great electromagnetic amplifiers. With regards Lew Marshall Dudley wrote: I have proven using a scanning spectorphotometer that one's thoughts can easily and consistently change the structure of water. And if you change the structure of the water you are using for the CS, then I would fully expect that there would be an effect on the colloidal silver production. - Original Message - From: Jonathan B. Britten jbrit...@cc.nakamura-u.ac.jp To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 3:46 PM Subject: Re: CSSpeculation about variables in CS production For persons interested in the ideas Marshall Dudley expresses below, a very interesting book is available: Margins of Reality, by Dunne and Jahn as I recall. Both were at Standford, investigating effects of thougth on extremely precise computers. They claim to have proved a very consistent and repeatable effect, vanishingly small, demonstrable only over a long period w/ very fast computer counters and such.They found no superstars, though husband/wife teams could do better than individuals in some cases.I have had experiences similar to those MD describes, but I can not get around the fact that the occurances may have been mere chance. I simply do not know. I am interested to learn more about this. Marshall Dudley wrote: I have proven using a scanning spectorphotometer that one's thoughts can easily and consistently change the structure of water. And if you change the structure of the water you are using for the CS, then I would fully expect that there would be an effect on the colloidal silver production. About a decade ago when the IBM personal computer first came out, the president of the company I was working for then demanded that we ship them with our systems. Procedures required that anything we ship meet quality assurance, but the IBM personal computer was so poorly designed an built that QC would not approve it. The president forced them to ship them anyway, but I had the very strong opinion that they were all unreliable pieces of junk. Well, we all got IBM computers to work with in engineering, and mine would constantly bomb and lock up. I could not do anything for more than a few minutes without it crashing. They would ship it back and get another one and it would do the same. I would go to the other engineers offices and see if they were having the same problem, but they would all report that theirs never crashed, except when I would go in and ask, then they would crash. It got where I was not allowed in the other engineers' offices when they were working on their computers because they claimed I crashed their system. Anyway, they finally allowed me to build a clone computer for about 1/4th the cost of an IBM, and it never crashed. Finally all the computers in engineering were swapped out to cheap clones, and none of the ever crashed like they did before. It was many years before I realized that the expectation of them being unreliable was what was causing the crashes. There are many example of this, such as the cold fusion experimentation where those that expect it almost always get positive results and those who don't think it is possible usually get negative results. (that is why this is called a consensus reality, what is real is what the majority thinks is real!) Marshall James Allison wrote: Considering there are people like Uri Geller in this wondrous universe, you may have a point ;) -James - Original Message - From: James Osbourne, Holmes To: Silver-List Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2001 8:38 AM Subject: CSSpeculation about variables in CS production Since it has been demonstrated that mental activity can influence matter perhaps the mental state of the experimenter may
RE: CSThe Spot: Off Topic
'Mystery Spot' is in my home town Santa Cruz, CA. scientist come to offer their explanations, best they say is that its an illusion... but it works. Been there several times, and the guides will let you bring any equipment you want to test. Many people like Terry said, bring their own levels, cameras, watches, walkie-talkies. Some things common is that people get dizzy and when walking down the stairs people are leaning backwards until they cross outside the area and the next step they're leaning forward as one would naturally walk down stairs. Golf balls roll uphill !!!, Pendulum swings counter clockwise (normal for Australians, but not for elsewhere, USA. People of equal height standing 3 feet apart - on a level surface, proved by your own carpenters level, change places and their heights change. Proved again by your own photographs! It does appear to be outside the intent of the person. But again, this is California and people do have their own reality here. BTW, the Mystery Spot has not been approved or endorsed by the FDA, and does not make any claims what-so-ever. Ed Kasper L.Ac., Acupuncturist Medicinal Herbalist Santa Cruz, California www.happyherbalist.com e-mail e...@happyherbalist.com -Original Message- From: Terry Chamberlin [mailto:tcj...@yahoo.ca] Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 7:59 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSThe Spot When I was in High school, I got a job one summer at a tourist attraction called, The Mystery Spot. (This is in Calif.) It was an area about 100 yards across in which gravity, it was claimed, pulled at an angle, rather than straight down. The buildings were built slanted, we were told, to accentuate the angle (which was up to about 12-18 degrees over from straight vertical). I thought it was all silliness when I first went to work there. Then I noticed certain anomalies. One of them was that everyone's digital watches were giving the wrong time, every time, several hours wrong, when the customer got out of the Spot. What this would have to do with gravity, I don't know, but it happened. Also, 2-way radios did not work in the Spot. Because this was well known, folks would bring their walky-talkys and one person would go into the Spot and one would stay in the parking lot. They could not communicate with each other. No voices, just static. Someone would bring in a long carpenters level, and lay it on a bench or step inside the Spot, and one end would clearly be higher than the other, even though the bubble showed it to be level. They had old, yellowed newspaper article clippings displayed under glass telling about the 11 other Spots that had been found around the world. There was even an article describing how a US military base in Africa had to be dismantled and moved because of all the accidents that kept happening there (car accidents, planes crashing, falling down stairs), because gravity didn't pull straight down. Interesting. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSNYC rescue workers
heard a news report in the last few days regarding the number of workers at ground zero that were suffering from all kinds of lung problems. and apparantly, the treatment is not doing them any good. is there anyone on the list, that lives near, or is acquainted with any of these brave people, that could show them the benefits of the nebulizer, cs, ozone, and peroxide??? even if we didn't get any notoriety, it sure would be great gift to them. just thinking. jim, O+, S
CSRe: Measuring CS strength
In a message dated 12/26/2001 4:10:13 PM Central Standard Time, silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com writes: Why do you denigrate a very useful tool when it is so inexpensive to buy and also easy to use. Trem Hi, I'm with you Trem I have a good laser pointer that I got at first but I just couldn't make CS without knowing more closely what the PPM was. Had my PWT Meter for some time now and find it is indispensable for me for making CS. Regards, Mary H.
Re: CSThe Spot: Off Topic
But again, this is California and people do have their own reality here. Ed Kasper L.Ac., Acupuncturist Medicinal Herbalist Santa Cruz, California www.happyherbalist.com Dear Ed, You are SO right!!! Love, Marshalee, who`s from Napa, the Wine Country! (I used to canter my Arabian through the Cabernet Sauvignon vines...) -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCS started too late.
Hi Tracy, Sorry, but I think you have this a little wrong: I wouldn't be taking orange juice when you have a cold, as it will increase mucus production. Oranges are extremely mucus forming. Oranges, like all citrus fruit, are mucolytic, that is they help break up the mucous (Oz spelling :-) Foods such as dairy products are mucous forming (mucogenic). Perhaps you were thinking of the increase in mucous flow when you eat oranges. This is simply the mucous breaking up and discharging much more easily, which is exactly what your body needs to do. It is the supression of mucous discharge that leads to worsening health problems. Regards, Mike Fuller Hoping everone had a mucous-free Christmas. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSLunar CS making
Loggers in Europe used to transport their logs to the mills in flumes. Some of the logs were too heavy (dense?) to float sufficiently well for this method, but the old-timers would wait for a particular phase of the moon (can't recall which one at the moment) and the logs would then float high enough in the water for this to work. (ref: Living Energies by Callum Coats) Now if the moon phase can influence such an observeable phenomenom as floatation of logs, I don't think it too much of a stretch to consider its influence on the formation of colloids, whose stability is dependant on the ability of the water to support the particles. Regards, Mike Fuller -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSSpeculation about variables in CS production
Hi Lew, While I can sympathise with most of your post about Psychic Transmutation, I can't agree with one part: The God-empowered gift of visualization is unique in humans. You obviously haven't met my dog. Or my God :-) Regards, Mike Fuller -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSLunar CS making
I don't know if this was sent properly, so apologies if you get it twice. Loggers in Europe used to transport their logs to the mills in flumes. Some of the logs were too heavy (dense?) to float sufficiently well for this method, but the old-timers would wait for a particular phase of the moon (can't recall which one at the moment) and the logs would then float high enough in the water for this to work. (ref: Living Energies by Callum Coats) Now if the moon phase can influence such an observeable phenomenom as floatation of logs, I don't think it too much of a stretch to consider its influence on the formation of colloids, whose stability is dependant on the ability of the water to support the particles. Regards, Mike Fuller -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSRE: nebulizers
I just saw a Aromatherapy Nebulizer for essential oils says its places therapeutic quantities of properly ionized and sized droplets of essential oils for inhalation under $20 (new). Wonder if this would work for C-S ed kasper, still in santa cruz, ca -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSSpeculation about variables in CS production
Hello, I'm new to the list and have been reading with interest speculation regarding CS production. Japanese artist/photographer Masaru Emoto's book The Message from Water suggests that human vibrational energy, thoughts, words, and ideas affect the molecular structure of water. http://www.adhikara.com/water.html Regards, Donna __ Do You Yahoo!? Send your FREE holiday greetings online! http://greetings.yahoo.com -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSHey, Terry--
What did you mean: 3 quarts of DW mixed with one quart of CS in a 1-gallon pickle jar, brewed for one hour Do you mean you brew a quart, then dliute it with 3 qt. DW? Tx. --Russ -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSNYC rescue workers
Jim, I live nearby..and I have a friend working at ground zero. He worked daily for the first month and a half, and now only works there a couple of times per week. He is a NYC police officer. I personally hadn't heard about the lung issues, but then again, I haven't talked to him in a few weeks. Our schedules have not been conducive to communication in the weeks before the holidays. I nebulize with CS, but am not familiar with the ozone and peroxide being used with it. I am more than willing to share the info with him, but would need details. I apologize if this info has been posted on the list in the past few weeks, but I haven't had the time to read the posts either. I can pass on any info that anyone might feel is helpful. Thanks for the idea, Christiane - Original Message - From: Acmeair To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 2:19 PM Subject: CSNYC rescue workers heard a news report in the last few days regarding the number of workers at ground zero that were suffering from all kinds of lung problems. and apparantly, the treatment is not doing them any good. is there anyone on the list, that lives near, or is acquainted with any of these brave people, that could show them the benefits of the nebulizer, cs, ozone, and peroxide??? even if we didn't get any notoriety, it sure would be great gift to them. just thinking. jim, O+, S
Re: CSNYC rescue workers
Christiane, thanks for the response. the report that i heard was on CNBC, i think, and could be part of the mis-information that is going on about this whole thing. i understand that a lot of the stress comes from toxic fumes, dust, etc., but there is the problem of the morbidity of all the bodies buried, and decaying, etc., this is the stuff that chollera , and a whole sort of infections start with. for all their efforts, and patriotism, and sense of duty, i believe that they should receive medical treatment that would heal their wounds, not just to make a show by the AMA boys. i'm new to this CS thing. i know from what i've done that it works. i hope, and am sure that the more experienced among us will respond, the more knowledgeable people here will provide some good, easy to understand advice. and you have a very pretty name, christiane, jim, O+, S - Original Message - From: John Osowiecki To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 6:36 PM Subject: Re: CSNYC rescue workers Jim, I live nearby..and I have a friend working at ground zero. He worked daily for the first month and a half, and now only works there a couple of times per week. He is a NYC police officer. I personally hadn't heard about the lung issues, but then again, I haven't talked to him in a few weeks. Our schedules have not been conducive to communication in the weeks before the holidays. I nebulize with CS, but am not familiar with the ozone and peroxide being used with it. I am more than willing to share the info with him, but would need details. I apologize if this info has been posted on the list in the past few weeks, but I haven't had the time to read the posts either. I can pass on any info that anyone might feel is helpful. Thanks for the idea, Christiane - Original Message - From: Acmeair To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 2:19 PM Subject: CSNYC rescue workers heard a news report in the last few days regarding the number of workers at ground zero that were suffering from all kinds of lung problems. and apparantly, the treatment is not doing them any good. is there anyone on the list, that lives near, or is acquainted with any of these brave people, that could show them the benefits of the nebulizer, cs, ozone, and peroxide??? even if we didn't get any notoriety, it sure would be great gift to them. just thinking. jim, O+, S
Re: CSFw: CSQuestion: too much cs
Greetings i can relate to that. i've had a little tightness in my chest. But i have energy, don;t feel sick. i can cough up something, only if i try. i am still blowing some but not a lot. it is still mostly clear.i do have drainage but no sore throat. My ears are itchy and very dry. Feel like they may be trying to open up or heal. But they are not stopped up. i have had a shooting pain in one or the other of them a few times. i have a feeling deep in my ear, sometimes when i swallow also. In March,1873, Dr. Schussler of Oldenburg, Germany, enunciated his new system of using The Twelve Tissue Salts,bringing physio-chemical and physio-pathological facts to bear on his therapuetic procedure. According to Dr. Schussler, disease is a result of a disturbance of the molecular motion of one of the 12 inorganic tissue salts. Restoration of health by supplying a minimal dose of the same inorganic salt to rectify the molecular configuration of the affected cell or tissue salt,constitutes a cure. Virchow defines disease as an altered state of the cell. Potassium Chloride [Kali. Muriaticum], is one of the 12 tissue salts of Schussler. The pure chloride is prepared by trituration according to homeopathic pharmaceutical. rules. A. proving of the 6x dynamization is reported in the Homeopathic Recorder, 1900. The 6x trituration caused a bad sore throatpain on swallowing even water,tonsils inflammedthroat filled with tough stringy mucusankle joints puffy. The prover was perfectly well until he commenced to take the Kali Muriaticum, Potassium Chloride According to Dr. Schussler, the cell salt, potassiurn chloride has a significant biochemical role in the formation and production of fibrin. Fibrin is produced by the interaction of the chloride of potassium,with oxygen,on certain albuminoids. Biochemically, it has been demonstrated that fibrin cannot be synthesized in the absence of potassium chloride and that the fibrin cannot be held in proper solution in the blood without the correct balance of the cell salt. The white or grey coating on the tongue ,mucous lining or tonsils, is the fibrin that has become non-functional because of a deficiency of potassium chloride and oxygen. Similar fibrinous exudations are also found in discharges or expectorations of a thick,white slime or phlegm ,from any of the mucous membranes,or in flour-1ike scaling of the skin. When the epidermal cells are irritated, molecules of Kali mur are lost and fibrin in the form of a white or greyish exudation, is thrown off. This,in drying,becomes a mealy eruption. If the irritation extends to the tissues beneath the epidermis,both fibrin and serum will exude,and the involved part of the skin will be pushed up in the form of blisters. This is exactly what takes place in small-pox,cow-pox and vaccine disease. Similar processes can take place within and among epithelial cells in mucosal lining. When the integrity ofthe affected cells are restored by administration of Kali muriaticum molecules, a reabsorption or throwing off of the exudation [mucusl occurs. This is attained by the production of hydrochloric acid formed by one part of chlorine from KCl with hydrogen. The hydrochloric acid formed dissolves the fibrin in its incipient stage offormation. This patho-physiological phenomenon corresponds to the second stage of inflammation of serous membranes. Comments: The mucous barrier is due to an exudation of a blood product called fibrin precipitated by a physio-chemical deficiency.The cause is an irritation with loss of the molecular configuration of Kali mur in the cell ot the cell salt.Its resolution can be activated by supplying the body a minimal dose of the appropriate cell salt of Schussler- Kali mur [potassium chloride]. The gastric juice in man is a strong acid with a pH [hydrogen ion concentration] of 1. 6 -2.0. The gastric walls are postulated to be covered and protected by the gastric mucosa which is derived from protein. Normally, proteins are dissolved in such strong acid. The moot point is: Why the gastric wall is not corroded ?. According to Dr. Schussler, the cell salt, potassiurn chloride has a significant biochemical role in the formation and production of fibrin. Fibrin is produced by the interaction of the chloride of potassium,with oxygen,on certain albuminoids. Biochemically, it has been demonstrated that fibrin cannot be synthesized in the absence of potassium chloride and that the fibrin cannot be held in proper solution in the blood without the correct balance of the cell salt. The white or grey coating on the tongue ,mucous lining or tonsils, is the fibrin that has become non?functional because of a deficiency of potassium chloride and oxygen. Similar fibrinous exudations are also found in discharges or expectorations of a thick,white slime or phlegm ,from any of the
Re: CSSpeculation about variables in CS production
Greetings Mike Fuller wrote: You obviously haven't met my dog I regard pets as members of the household. I have fish,crabs, turtles, plants and of course my good canine friend, Jimmy. I talk to them, water them and feed them. Their presence reminds me of the natural world that I once lived in,not trapped like them, in the asphalt jungle. Only till recently, I have birds flying freely in my enclosed premises. I have released all of them on auspicious ocassions. They need more space than I do. I thrill at their aerial acrobatics with their inborn instincts and endowments. My companions from the aquatic world always remind me that I have once shared their watery environment during my embroyonic development. The human system is a product of evolutionary success thus far but is regulated by envisioning. The canine and the feline families manifest uncanny abilities which have great survival values in their respective vibrational planes but are rare ocurrences amongst humans in our 35th - 40th Octave world for seeing and hearing. The American eagle not only can see its prey from a great distance but can also smell it at the same time. Dogs do not have sweat glands like humans do. Pores serve as acupoints which regulate the flow of Chi, Prana or Vital Force.. The traditional acupuncture meridial channels conduct light which feeds the body. This phenomenon is demonstrated by the Russians. The sense organs in the skin have shown to pick up vibrations,which through sensory integration, can be interpretated by the brain as colours,Form or Pattern as in Sound. Hearing is sensory dissociation without concentration. Listening to our body is sensory integration with association of meaning i.e using one's mind's ear and eye.. The whole human body is a finely tuned electomagnetic sense organ in resonance, It is a cohesive manifestation of vibrationasl states of electromagnetism : light, sound and geometry. Visualization is harnessing the power of light for morphic manifestation by the strength of Intention and Desire. This is the Will of God for evolution from the highest evolved to the lowest unicellular organism in the microbial world. Snatches of some of the teachings of my missionary teachers keep resounding. Thy Will be done on Earth as it is in Heaven Thy Kingdom come Give us this day our daily bread Every living thing through the power of Light is a kingdom unto itself. We need light ,which is photonic nutrient, for survival and evolution. With regards Lew - Original Message - From: Mike Fuller car...@touch88.com.au To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 9:11 AM Subject: Re: CSSpeculation about variables in CS production Hi Lew, While I can sympathise with most of your post about Psychic Transmutation, I can't agree with one part: The God-empowered gift of visualization is unique in humans. .You obviously haven't met my dog. Or my God :-) Regards, Mike Fuller -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
