CSTo Ronen re CS generator
Hi Ronen, I am new to all this but I have made what might be the simplest of all generators. The pro¹s here will hopefully correct any erroneous advice and add their knowledge to what I¹m telling you. If you have an AC/DC adaptor (I used one from a no longer functional cordless phone has 24 volt output), just cut the jack end off, separate the wires and trim them back so you can wrap them around small alligator clips (cost about 25 cents). IF you don¹t have an AC/DC adaptor, you might find one at a garage sale or 2nd hand store for 50 cents or more (some people give them away as useless). Get some .999 silver (you can get it at ebay or perhaps from a local store, jeweller) or there are people on this list who sell it very cheaply. Shouldn¹t cost more than $5 or so to get started. You have to buy distilled water which is no more than a couple of dollars from your local supermarket or drugstore. Then sterilize a glass jar of any size (I use a 2 cup canning jar) and create a cover¹ or lid for it that will accommodate the silver wire. You can also insert an air hose (air pumps for aquariums are only a few dollars often you can find them at 2nd hand stores for around $1) to help keep the wires from producing black gunk in the water when the CS is being made. There are many ways to create a cover but here¹s what I did (creativity is the key here): I made a cover for my jar from an oversize plastic peanut butter jar lid. This lid is larger than my canning jar and therefore just sits on top of the jar. I hammered a large nail through the lid to run the air hose through, and then made a couple of small holes by hammering small nails through two opposite edges of the lid so they fit just inside the jar the small nails are the size of the silver wire. Then you can lay the alligator clips holding the silver wire on top of the lid so the wire runs down into the water. You should sterilize all tools and components by pouring boiling water to cover the items before putting anything into the distilled water. This includes the cover and jar and all bits and pieces being used to produce your CS. My CS startup cost was $2: I had the AC/DC adaptor, my friend gave me the two pieces of silver wire and the alligator clips, I already had an aquarium pump and hose (which I sterilized), only had to buy the distilled water. Good luck and be creative! Just make sure everything is sterile before using.
Re: CSTo Ronen re CS generator
To Ronen re CS generatorThanks, Nicola! Any info on particle sizes? Any warnings that I should consider? Ronen. - Original Message - From: Nicola Kay To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2002 11:21 AM Subject: CSTo Ronen re CS generator Hi Ronen, I am new to all this but I have made what might be the simplest of all generators. The pro's here will hopefully correct any erroneous advice and add their knowledge to what I'm telling you.
Re: CSurinary track infection
In time past there was a thing called match makers disease. It was cause by injestion of phosphorus and depleted the bones. Phosphoric acid is the active ingrediant in navel jelly [rust dissolver] There's a lot of it in colas...and a cola soda pop will remove rust. Not all sodas have phosphoric acids...mostly the cola sodas. Ken At 07:28 PM 4/1/02 -0500, you wrote: WHOOPS..that was a typo on my part. I meant phosphoric acid..thanks for catching that, Marshall!. I was in a rush to get out the door and pick up my daughter when I was typing the email . :-) Hate them brain freezes! :o0 Kathie the blushing Kathie Jones wrote: I suppose, any variance from a standard range of normal is what the bacterium that are often the culprits for urinary tract infections are fond of. Other bacteria may well favor a more acidic environment that what is * normal * and decreasing acid levels would discourage their staying. Too much acid in *some* people, over a period of many weeks or months, is linked to kidney stones. BUT...often there is something else going on that is encouraging this * i.e. consumption of too much soda *high carbonic acid levels*, I would like to point out that carbonic acid, or carbonation is simply carbon dioxide. We breathe it out with every breath. The body uses CO2 as part of its mechanism for regulating blood pH. It has no problem dealing with excessive CO2 as long as you are breathing normally. However many sodas, such as cola, contain phosphoric acid. This is an inorganic acid, instead of an organic acid like carbonic acid is, and can totally wreck havoc on your blood ph. Since the body cannot quickly throw it off like CO2, it must neutralize it with an inorganic mineral, the mineral of choice is calcium, which it removes from the bones. This is the real problem with most sodas. Marshall -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSbrewing with citric acid
Hi Russ, If Roger Altman were still on the list I'm sure he would have answered promptly - solubility product! The product of the ionic concentrations, [Ag+][OH-], must stay below a certain value, else AgOH will begin to precipitate. Baking soda, NaHCO3, dissociates to yield an alkaline environment with a lot of OH- ions in solution, which means the maximum possible concentration of soluble Ag+ is pushed lower. Ag2CO3 is another ionic compound that will be present, but will not be the limiting factor here. Citric acid addition depresses the OH- concentration, thus allowing a higher possible Ag+ concentration. Combine that with the need to keep pH either acid or alkaline in order to eliminate dropout of the particulate fraction of silver present (zeta potential issue), and it becomes evident an acidic environment combines the best of both worlds re stability of ionic + particulate CS. I include an attachment originally mailed to me from Roger. Zeta potential and pH is discussed at Frank Key's site. regards, Kevin Nolan - Original Message - From: Russ Rosser russros...@rovin.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2002 4:29 PM Subject: Re: CSbrewing with citric acid How does citric acid compare with BAKING SODA, which is alkaline, but also recommended for raising conductivity without interaction? Is citric acid preferable because it completely digests away? --Russ -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com ---BeginMessage--- In a message dated 10/18/2001 10:07:33 PM Eastern Daylight Time, ken...@optusnet.com.au writes: Subj:Re: CSBubble or Stir? Date:10/18/2001 10:07:33 PM Eastern Daylight Time From:ken...@optusnet.com.au (Kevin Nolan) To:rogalt...@aol.com OK Roger, please send that material. I had assumed your classes were just about establishing solubility product equations for beginners Ag+ Solubility in LVDC CS Assuming Aqueous Chemical Equilibria Exists LESSON I Introduction Chemical reactions fall into two general types, those that react so completely that the reactants disappear, and those that react partially so that the reactants and products coexist. An extreme example of a reaction in which the reactants disappear completely is the explosion of gun powder, (1) 2KNO3 + 3C + S - K2S + 3CO2 + N2 An example in which the reactants and products coexist is observed when solid silver hydroxide is mixed with distilled water (DW), (2) AgOH(s) = [Ag+]+[OH-] Note that the = signifies that all species coexist, and the (s) indicates that the AgOH is in a solid, crystalline form. The + and - attached to Ag and OH represent the formation of ions which are single atoms or a combination of atoms that have gained or lost one or more electrons. Of course, a reaction like the one above can be written for practically any salt, but reactions involving insoluble or slightly soluble salts have characteristics that allow chemists to make accurate solubility predictions by taking advantage of the unique properties of dilute aqueous solutions. Here are some of these unique properties. First, it can be shown that the product of Ag+ concentration and OH- concentration equals a constant called the solubility product. Although the value of this constant changes with temperature, it does not change with variations in the concentration of Ag+ or OH-. I guess that's why it's referred to as a 'constant'. So if we know the temperature of the DW we can look up the solubility product of any similar salt. Second, the solubility product of, say, AgOH, will not be effected by the presence of other dilute ionic, or molecular species in the DW such as dissolved CO2. The concentration of OH- is important because it is associated with the pH of the DW. pH is based on the concentration of H+ which, together with OH- are produced from the ionization of water molecules as shown in reaction (3), (3) H2O = [H+]+[OH-] Notice that the form of this reaction is similar to that of reaction (2). The ionization constant of water works like the solubility product just mentioned, but instead of relating ion formation to a salt, it relates it to water molecules shown as H2O. Water is practically all molecules. In fact, pure water has only 10^-7 moles/liter of hydrogen [H+] and hydroxyl [OH-] ions. The logarithm of the hydrogen ion concentration is the pH. So, as you can see, pure water has a pH of 7. When pure DW is saturated with AgOH, two equations can be written, [Ag+] * [OH] =
Re: CSMaking CS
Ronen, Welcome to the list. I just wanted to take a moment and give you my opinion and input about a generator. First of all, let me say that expensive is a relative term.esp. when speaking about CS generators. They can be quite pricey (costing hundreds of dollars). You also spoke of the simplest means..also relative. ~:-} There are many on this list who use 3 nine volt batteries (or a plug in 24 volt adapter) and some alligator clips.certainly inexpensive by any sense of the term, but I don't find them simple.you have to worry about the clips staying away from the water, bending the silver just right, having the silver just the right distance apart from each other and keeping them there securely through the process. (A bit more effort than I have to put into it) Then there are those who use High voltage machines which are NOT inexpensive (by any sense of the term) nor do I feel they are simple (as I have a distinct dislike of electrocuting myself, and a distinct ability to be clumsy). So.that stated.here's what I use. I bought a generator from www.sunstoneherbals.com . It was $39.95relatively inexpensive, in my opinion. CERTAINLY simple. It's based on the same 3-9v battery system, but is encased in a little box with holes for the silver wires. To use it, you put the silver in the holesput 16 ounces of distilled water in a glassput the generator on top of the glass..set a timer for 60 minutes..and when the timer goes off you have about 8ppm CS. I have a chronically ill child, and we travel alot to a hospital far from home for her treatment. I put my generator in a ziploc sandwich bag...and can bring it with me to use anywhereno parts to lose, no configurations to figure out.no thinking required (on those weeks where I haven't gotten but a winks sleep). In my opinion it is certainly the easiest, most convenient, and relatively inexpensive generator anyone could find. I have used it for over 2 years. I make about a gallon of CS per week (and give it away to my friends). Now my friends are so hooked on the myriad of illnesses that it has helped in their families, that 10 of them finally purchased the same generator in the past week.after I showed them how easy it was to make. Funny thing is...they all pictured me in my basement with some huge expensive machine spending hours making this amazing product. When I finally got smart enough to show them how easy it was...they got their own.freeing me to get more people addicted grin I hope this info helps. Feel free to email me with any questions. God Bless, Christiane - Original Message - From: Ronen Yehiav y...@bezeqint.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, April 01, 2002 7:26 PM Subject: CSMaking CS Hello. I'm new to this list, although I know about CS for quite a long time, being heavily into alt. med. I would like to know what is the best way to home - make CS, using the simplest, most basic means? I have a distinct dislike to anything expensive. Are the expensive CS machines really anu better than the simplest means? Thank you. Ronen. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSiridology
Hi: Does anyone here have access to URL's that provide free teaching and information about Iridology? Lots of sites out there selling books and stuff but it seems to me that a practice this old should have teaching and information sites out there. In particular, information on how to set up a camera to take pictures of the eye for baseline info and progress. Ian
Re: CSTo Ronen re CS generator
Actually, sterility is no necessary!! Remember NOTHING grows in the presence of silver! No need to increase your workload by sterilizing things first!!! The CS will take care of that for you!! Simple rinsing with DW is all that is necessary. From: Nicola Kay n...@shaw.ca Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Tue, 02 Apr 2002 01:21:33 -0800 To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSTo Ronen re CS generator Resent-From: silver-list@eskimo.com Resent-Date: Tue, 2 Apr 2002 02:20:20 -0800 Hi Ronen, I am new to all this but I have made what might be the simplest of all generators. The pro¹s here will hopefully correct any erroneous advice and add their knowledge to what I¹m telling you. If you have an AC/DC adaptor (I used one from a no longer functional cordless phone has 24 volt output), just cut the jack end off, separate the wires and trim them back so you can wrap them around small alligator clips (cost about 25 cents). IF you don¹t have an AC/DC adaptor, you might find one at a garage sale or 2nd hand store for 50 cents or more (some people give them away as useless). Get some .999 silver (you can get it at ebay or perhaps from a local store, jeweller) or there are people on this list who sell it very cheaply. Shouldn¹t cost more than $5 or so to get started. You have to buy distilled water which is no more than a couple of dollars from your local supermarket or drugstore. Then sterilize a glass jar of any size (I use a 2 cup canning jar) and create a cover¹ or lid for it that will accommodate the silver wire. You can also insert an air hose (air pumps for aquariums are only a few dollars often you can find them at 2nd hand stores for around $1) to help keep the wires from producing black gunk in the water when the CS is being made. There are many ways to create a cover but here¹s what I did (creativity is the key here): I made a cover for my jar from an oversize plastic peanut butter jar lid. This lid is larger than my canning jar and therefore just sits on top of the jar. I hammered a large nail through the lid to run the air hose through, and then made a couple of small holes by hammering small nails through two opposite edges of the lid so they fit just inside the jar the small nails are the size of the silver wire. Then you can lay the alligator clips holding the silver wire on top of the lid so the wire runs down into the water. You should sterilize all tools and components by pouring boiling water to cover the items before putting anything into the distilled water. This includes the cover and jar and all bits and pieces being used to produce your CS. My CS startup cost was $2: I had the AC/DC adaptor, my friend gave me the two pieces of silver wire and the alligator clips, I already had an aquarium pump and hose (which I sterilized), only had to buy the distilled water. Good luck and be creative! Just make sure everything is sterile before using.
Re: CSurinary track infection
In time past there was a thing called match makers disease. It was cause by injestion of phosphorus and depleted the bones. Phosphoric acid is the active ingrediant in navel jelly [rust dissolver] There's a lot of it in colas...and a cola soda pop will remove rust. Not all sodas have phosphoric acids...mostly the cola sodas. Ken Best toilet cleaner in the world is a can of Coke!! good for cleaning off the battery posts, too... Too bad the damn stuff tastes so good. :o( Marshalee -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSUK compatible generator needed
I have a UK member looking for a good generator. I always recommend silvergen, Trem you have something UK compatible, do you ship to the UK? -- From: kagoza maine-coons kagoza.maine-co...@ntlworld.com Does anyone know of a manufacturer that makes a generator usable in UK? Regards Kaeren and the Kagoza Maine Coons www.kagoza.com http://www.kagoza.com
CSMalignant Melanoma
Evening Larry, BONG, the light went on... I had bought a hot tub in1992 and use to get the chlorine so strong it would burn my eyesDUH DUDE.. DUH. I think chlorine is bad, any way you cut it and any way you get it. It appears to me, the mainstream is trying to brainwash the masses to believe the sunshine is bad and causes some forms of melanoma. In following this brainwashing, I have been irritated that the weather channel has had numerous ads telling the children to play in the shade. Even the Blue Cross publication had articles damming the sun and telling parents to keep children out of the sun. Now I get a newsletter from a half mainstream / half alternative doctor that says limit sunlight exposure to 15 minutes. ( Dr. Julian Whittaker ) To show how much I believe this hogwash, I just came in from a 1.5 hour work session in the sun with my shirt removed. Likely I will get 1.5 to 2.0 hours more before the day is over. I realize that specific individuals who have major body chemistry problems, multiple vitamin and mineral deficiencies, could in fact be damaged by the sunlight. Recently I read an article that was quoting world statistics on melanoma which stated that a large percent of the cases are in the northern states that get the least sunlight. So. have I been brainwashed in the wrong direction, or. is there a mainstream move to create more cancer? Wayne -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSUK compatible generator needed
UK compatible generator neededHi Connie, Sure, we make both 120 and 240 VAC generators and ship them all over the world. well to many countries. Haven't shipped to some countries yet. Would you like me to respond to Kaeren? Thanks for the recommendation. Trem - Original Message - From: Connie To: silver- list Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2002 10:01 AM Subject: CSUK compatible generator needed I have a UK member looking for a good generator. I always recommend silvergen, Trem you have something UK compatible, do you ship to the UK? -- From: kagoza maine-coons kagoza.maine-co...@ntlworld.com Does anyone know of a manufacturer that makes a generator usable in UK? Regards Kaeren and the Kagoza Maine Coons www.kagoza.com http://www.kagoza.com
Re: CSUK compatible generator needed
Yes Trem, if you would pleasetrying to convince some of the members of the list (CSCats-Dogs), to beware of the high ppm productsencouraging them making their own instead. I will also forward your reply to my list. Thanks so much Trem! Connie From: Trem t...@silvergen.com Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Tue, 2 Apr 2002 10:40:46 -0800 To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSUK compatible generator needed Resent-From: silver-list@eskimo.com Resent-Date: Tue, 2 Apr 2002 10:41:43 -0800 Hi Connie, Sure, we make both 120 and 240 VAC generators and ship them all over the world. well to many countries. Haven't shipped to some countries yet. Would you like me to respond to Kaeren? Thanks for the recommendation. Trem - Original Message - From: Connie mailto:wufn...@stargate.net To: silver- list mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2002 10:01 AM Subject: CSUK compatible generator needed I have a UK member looking for a good generator. I always recommend silvergen, Trem you have something UK compatible, do you ship to the UK? -- From: kagoza maine-coons kagoza.maine-co...@ntlworld.com Does anyone know of a manufacturer that makes a generator usable in UK? Regards Kaeren and the Kagoza Maine Coons www.kagoza.com http://www.kagoza.com http://www.kagoza.com
CSC/S generators
Hi I am a pigeon fancier in the north east of England I used C/S a couple of years ago 'I bought a generator from Dazer u.k I was very pleased with it until I got a new silver rod put in by Dazer u.k.After this it did not have the same effect is this because they may have used an inferior silver rod or could there be another explanation regards Gary
Re: CSurinary track infection
Hi; Contradictory evidence time!! (Sorry, and I don't mean to play my experience is more true than your experience) Cranberry juice, yes; I got so sick of that stuff when I was in the hospital I just about threw up. Of course their juice was much more concentrated than the commercial stuff and had little if any added sugars. CS has not been a big winner for UTI's in my very limited experience so far, either orally or as an irrigant, but as I said, very limited experience. Alkaline urine, No. Quite the contrary in fact. I have reduced my rate of infection to practically zero by taking copious amounts of (sometimes) unbuffered Vit C, about 6 - 8 grams daily divided into 3 or more doses. Brand and source seem relatively unimportant, though the stuff now supplied me by the VA seems particularly vile and hard on the stomach as well. I also consume lots of oranges and other Vit. C rich foods in conjunction with the pills, which seems to work better than either alone. I've heard there are both left-hand and right-hand isomers of Vit. C, but haven't explored this option yet; if you know of something please let me know too. I often check pH, though no longer each and every time, and keep things acidic. I have a decent binocular microscope with darkfield condensor, and a small centrifuge, and follow up on any signs or suspicions of infection with urinalysis and CS from a lab. Sooo, that's what works for me, what works for you works for you, and that's life I guessg. Take care, Malcolm Nick Grant wrote: Hi Lee Having suffer with a bladder complaint for about 12 years, I have learnt that not all bladder infections happen because of the same cause. Cranberry is a good preventative for bladder infections. CS seems to work well on them as well. In females, it can be sexual relations that play a big part in some infections, so different things can help this from occurring. In males, dunno...got me there...I am not male so didn't explore that one, sorry. But Cranberry could work well in both sexes. Drinking loads of water helps, and keeping the urine alkaline as possible, as an acid environment helps the bacteria to adhere to the sides of the bladder and multiply. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSUK compatible generator needed
Re: CSUK compatible generator neededConnie, what is the address to subscribe to the CSCats-Dogs list? Bonnie - Original Message - From: Connie To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2002 2:02 PM Subject: Re: CSUK compatible generator needed Yes Trem, if you would pleasetrying to convince some of the members of the list (CSCats-Dogs), to beware of the high ppm productsencouraging them making their own instead. I will also forward your reply to my list. Thanks so much Trem! Connie From: Trem t...@silvergen.com Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Tue, 2 Apr 2002 10:40:46 -0800 To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSUK compatible generator needed Resent-From: silver-list@eskimo.com Resent-Date: Tue, 2 Apr 2002 10:41:43 -0800 Hi Connie, Sure, we make both 120 and 240 VAC generators and ship them all over the world. well to many countries. Haven't shipped to some countries yet. Would you like me to respond to Kaeren? Thanks for the recommendation. Trem - Original Message - From: Connie mailto:wufn...@stargate.net To: silver- list mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2002 10:01 AM Subject: CSUK compatible generator needed I have a UK member looking for a good generator. I always recommend silvergen, Trem you have something UK compatible, do you ship to the UK? -- From: kagoza maine-coons kagoza.maine-co...@ntlworld.com Does anyone know of a manufacturer that makes a generator usable in UK? Regards Kaeren and the Kagoza Maine Coons www.kagoza.com http://www.kagoza.com http://www.kagoza.com
CSanother generator to critique
OK, here is a generator for ya.. http://www.wolfberries.com/
Re: CSC/S generators
Gary-- The disparity might be attributable to rods having different diameters and/or lengths. What was the precise difference in the latter effect? --Russ - Original Message - From: Gary Robertson To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2002 1:51 PM Subject: CSC/S generators Hi I am a pigeon fancier in the north east of England I used C/S a couple of years ago 'I bought a generator from Dazer u.k I was very pleased with it until I got a new silver rod put in by Dazer u.k.After this it did not have the same effect is this because they may have used an inferior silver rod or could there be another explanation regards Gary
Re: CSurinary track infection
Hi, I don't go along with your comment that an acidic environment in the urinary tract is linked to bladder or kidney stones, in fact I think it's just the opposite. Generally the stones are a compound of calcium, and can even be dissolved by adding acidic solutions to a chunk of one. There may be something, or some form of stone, I don't know about, or maybe there is some bodily reaction to the constant presence of an acidic environment, so if you have knowledge about some specifics I'd like to learn of them. Quite often, bacteria hide inside the stones, thus avoiding total destruction by the usual antibiotic regimen, and after even months of pills they return when the ABX are gone and in a few days to a week or so, there you are, yucky pee again. Malcolm Kathie Jones wrote: I suppose, any variance from a standard range of normal is what the bacterium that are often the culprits for urinary tract infections are fond of. Other bacteria may well favor a more acidic environment that what is * normal * and decreasing acid levels would discourage their staying. Too much acid in *some* people, over a period of many weeks or months, is linked to kidney stones. BUT...often there is something else going on that is encouraging this * i.e. consumption of too much soda *high carbonic acid levels*, genetic predisposition, imbalances in other parts of the bodies digestive or endocrine system. All in all, it goes back to Vit C helps the body's immune system *kick in* and kick out bacterial invaders, and is known to be especially efficient at combating UTIs when combined with cranberry. I stopped using cranberry juice, and switched to tablets a long time ago as the sugar in the drinks actually did the urinary system a disservice when trying to fight and infection. I have had HUGE success when doing this for myself, my daughter, hubby and my dog. :-) Gotta keep all the family members happy! *G* Kathie Hm... I was always under the impression that bacteria, and viruses liked to live in an Acidic environment Grant.. Kathie Jones wrote: LOTS of vitamin C and CS will do amazing things! :-) And don't forget cranberry tablets. The cranberry keeps the bacteria that is causing the infection from being able to * adhere * to the urinary system walls, the C makes the urine acidic * the bacteria like an alkaline environment*, and the CS will kill the bacteria off. Kathie -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSurinary track infection
Hey Nick!! Be kind, give the lady her own mailbox, ok? Nick Grant wrote: Tell my husband that Kevin - he is always to busy for minor details like that! :) If people read the whole e-mail, they would see my name at the bottom anyway - maybe one of the downsides of skim reading perhaps? TRACY!!! - Original Message - From: Kevin Nolan ken...@optusnet.com.au To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, 2 April 2002 00:25 Subject: Re: CSurinary track infection Tracy wrote: I am not male so didn't explore that one, sorry. OK, but your e-mail header always appears as Nick Grant. Might it not be better to change something here? Kevin Nolan - Original Message - From: Nick Grant nwgr...@inet.net.nz To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, April 01, 2002 3:04 PM Subject: Re: CSurinary track infection Hi Lee Having suffer with a bladder complaint for about 12 years, I have learnt that not all bladder infections happen because of the same cause. Cranberry is a good preventative for bladder infections. CS seems to work well on them as well. In females, it can be sexual relations that play a big part in some infections, so different things can help this from occurring. In males, dunno...got me there...I am not male so didn't explore that one, sorry. But Cranberry could work well in both sexes. Drinking loads of water helps, and keeping the urine alkaline as possible, as an acid environment helps the bacteria to adhere to the sides of the bladder and multiply. Tracy -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSurinary track infection
Hi Tracy; Yeah, understood, I do that too. But re: cranberry in the presence of an infection I have always assumed the reason they 'force fed' me cranberry juice was to prevent bacteria from being able to adhere, as you say, and that is valuable during an infection as well as being helpful as preventive 'prophylaxis'. Comment?? Irritation may be from a number of things including wierd solvents the body can't deal with properly that dissipate through the kidneys as much by default as any other mechanism; truly, piling more insult on top of that is not kind to the bladder wall and might goad the cells to madness, but this is getting out into the realm of wild speculation. Malcolm Nick Grant wrote: I think what makes sense here is differentiating between bladder in the bladder, and bladder irritation That doesn't make sense at all. I meant infection in the bladder.oops. Tracy -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSOzone in water
Hi; In California at least it is stated on the label of many DW jugs that 'distilled' the word can only be used to describe steam distilled water, so the distilled water in that jug is indeed steam distilled. OTOH, advertising 'quackery' has become so prevalent that I don';t trust anything anymore, and wonder what percentage of the so-called 'distilled drinking water' may be distilled and what may be 'drinking', about which I expect there are no regulations whatever. YMMV. Malcolm Ode Coyote wrote: Ozone is used commercially to 'disinfect' distilled water. The distillation process 'purifys' the water...and should disinfect it as well, but apparently further safe gaurds are required as all commercial distilled water I've seen is also ozonated. Water can be vacuum distilled or condensed from any vapor source. In effect, your air conditioner makes distilled water when it de-humidifies the air. Rain water could qualify as distilled. I would like to believe that all commercial distilled water is steam distilled but I'm not certain of it. Ken At 03:26 AM 3/31/02 -0800, you wrote: Have question: anyone know if ozone can purify water? Thank you. God save Queen Elizabeth, Queen Mum. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSanother generator to critique
another generator to critiqueHi Connie, I went to the site and it looks suspiciously like a constant voltage device. They say it's current controlled but they tell you to shut it off when it reaches .2 milliamps. I think they don't have their numbers together. Typically that's the reading at the start when using distilled water. If they can't even tell you the proper numbers, would you trust the unit? Not me. Just another constant voltage device with a whistle (the meter) and not even a bell. Might as well use a wall wart and a multimeter to measure current and an aquarium bubbler. It would cost a lot less. And I wonder where they get 99.999% pure silver. I wouldn't believe it until they told me where they got it. Most likely it's .999 fine or 99.9% pure. And I don't even want to go near the spelling errors I see on the site. It reminds me of the phrase Cix munts ugo i cudnt even spel ingineer. Now i are one That's my take on it. Perhaps I'm too tough on them but good spelling and truth in advertising should be paramount on any commercial site. Trem - Original Message - From: Connie To: silver- list Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2002 12:31 PM Subject: CSanother generator to critique OK, here is a generator for ya.. http://www.wolfberries.com/
CSOptimum Shape of Silver Cathode/Anode
While silver wire seems to be most commonly used, I notice some use sheet silver in square or rectangular patterns. Any comments on optimum silver configurations? Would using HVAC or LVDC make a difference here? Thanks, jr -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSTo Ronen re CS generator
Hi Connie, two comments on your post: First, whether sterility is or is not necessary would depend on too many factors; the notion that ANY CS made by Anyone with Any method at Any concentration is so effective a killer of Any pathogen that you're guaranteed to be safe for Any application goes way too far, and I expect you didn't mean that. But that is what you emphasized with NOTHING.! Second, anyone who undertook I.V. injection or other direct blood or lymph introduction of CS from any source without proper sterile precautions is somewhere between a fool and dead. Malcolm Connie wrote: Actually, sterility is no necessary!! Remember NOTHING grows in the presence of silver! No need to increase your workload by sterilizing things first!!! The CS will take care of that for you!! Simple rinsing with DW is all that is necessary. From: Nicola Kay n...@shaw.ca Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Tue, 02 Apr 2002 01:21:33 -0800 To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSTo Ronen re CS generator Resent-From: silver-list@eskimo.com Resent-Date: Tue, 2 Apr 2002 02:20:20 -0800 Hi Ronen, I am new to all this but I have made what might be the simplest of all generators. The pro¹s here will hopefully correct any erroneous advice and add their knowledge to what I¹m telling you. If you have an AC/DC adaptor (I used one from a no longer functional cordless phone has 24 volt output), just cut the jack end off, separate the wires and trim them back so you can wrap them around small alligator clips (cost about 25 cents). IF you don¹t have an AC/DC adaptor, you might find one at a garage sale or 2nd hand store for 50 cents or more (some people give them away as useless). Get some .999 silver (you can get it at ebay or perhaps from a local store, jeweller) or there are people on this list who sell it very cheaply. Shouldn¹t cost more than $5 or so to get started. You have to buy distilled water which is no more than a couple of dollars from your local supermarket or drugstore. Then sterilize a glass jar of any size (I use a 2 cup canning jar) and create a cover¹ or lid for it that will accommodate the silver wire. You can also insert an air hose (air pumps for aquariums are only a few dollars often you can find them at 2nd hand stores for around $1) to help keep the wires from producing black gunk in the water when the CS is being made. There are many ways to create a cover but here¹s what I did (creativity is the key here): I made a cover for my jar from an oversize plastic peanut butter jar lid. This lid is larger than my canning jar and therefore just sits on top of the jar. I hammered a large nail through the lid to run the air hose through, and then made a couple of small holes by hammering small nails through two opposite edges of the lid so they fit just inside the jar the small nails are the size of the silver wire. Then you can lay the alligator clips holding the silver wire on top of the lid so the wire runs down into the water. You should sterilize all tools and components by pouring boiling water to cover the items before putting anything into the distilled water. This includes the cover and jar and all bits and pieces being used to produce your CS. My CS startup cost was $2: I had the AC/DC adaptor, my friend gave me the two pieces of silver wire and the alligator clips, I already had an aquarium pump and hose (which I sterilized), only had to buy the distilled water. Good luck and be creative! Just make sure everything is sterile before using.
Re: CSurinary track infection
In article 01c1d9df$9f4ad320$b1ed8...@mmwawsprynet.com, Maxine Wilton mm...@sprynet.com wrote: I haven't found any Cranberry Juice that is PURE cranberry juice in any stores. You won't likely find pure cranberry juice in standard grocery stores, but health/whole food stores, natural food markets, etc. should carry it. -- John A. Stanley j...@natel.net -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSanother generator to critique
another generator to critiqueTrem, are you still running at 30 milliamps? Yours in health, James Allison - Original Message - From: Trem To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2002 2:37 PM Subject: Re: CSanother generator to critique Hi Connie, I went to the site and it looks suspiciously like a constant voltage device. They say it's current controlled but they tell you to shut it off when it reaches .2 milliamps. I think they don't have their numbers together. Typically that's the reading at the start when using distilled water. If they can't even tell you the proper numbers, would you trust the unit? Not me. Just another constant voltage device with a whistle (the meter) and not even a bell. Might as well use a wall wart and a multimeter to measure current and an aquarium bubbler. It would cost a lot less. And I wonder where they get 99.999% pure silver. I wouldn't believe it until they told me where they got it. Most likely it's .999 fine or 99.9% pure. And I don't even want to go near the spelling errors I see on the site. It reminds me of the phrase Cix munts ugo i cudnt even spel ingineer. Now i are one That's my take on it. Perhaps I'm too tough on them but good spelling and truth in advertising should be paramount on any commercial site. Trem - Original Message - From: Connie To: silver- list Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2002 12:31 PM Subject: CSanother generator to critique OK, here is a generator for ya.. http://www.wolfberries.com/
Re: CSiridology
Hi Ian , Try http://www.iridologyresearch.com/index.htm or http://www.iridologyresearch.com/pages/lessons/courselessons.htm Tony Ian Roe wrote: Hi: Does anyone here have access to URL's that provide free teaching and information about Iridology? Lots of sites out there selling books and stuff but it seems to me that a practice this old should have teaching and information sites out there. In particular, information on how to set up a camera to take pictures of the eye for baseline info and progress. Ian -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSCompounding Things
I practuce Bio-Magnetic healing (not selling MLM stuff to unsuspecting people...). I work extensively with Negative Energized (magnetized) water, and Stabilized Oxygen. Can magnetizing the water have any effect on CS production? Negative or Positive energizing? What about combining Stabilized Oxygen with CS? Thank you all. Ronen. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSOptimum Shape of Silver Cathode/Anode
Good question. I developed a firm opinion about this, after noticing that if voltage, water quality, and brewing time are equal, the CS becomes increasingly weaker--at an increasing rate of increase--as the rods erode. This is obviously due to round wire'a losing surface area, especially in advanced stages of erosion. This is why I recently inquired about Maple Leaf coins other silver rounds that are . purity: The obvious answer is to use FLAT electrodes, where the edge is an insignificant potion of the total area. As long as the electrodes are perfectly parallel, nearly equal surface should be exposed when the electrodes have worn down to FOIL strips as when they were new and thicker. Suppliers like www.monsterslayer.com should have pure silver in any shape necessary. Of course, the problem can be addressed electronically, too, by running the batch until a given current is reached. I have a circuit that does this--makes batches of a equal concentration regardless of electrode configuration, batch size (peanut butter jar to swimming pool) or input voltage (battery, solar panel, phone line, power converter). I'm not sure, but it seems that the other electronic approach--running at constant current for a fixed time period--might also benefit from flat electrodes because if round wire were too narrow, allowing the voltage to go high enough to reach the set point might exceed the optimal current-to-surface area ratio required for small particulates. --Russ www.survivalsystem.com - Original Message - From: jrowl...@nctimes.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2002 3:52 PM Subject: CSOptimum Shape of Silver Cathode/Anode While silver wire seems to be most commonly used, I notice some use sheet silver in square or rectangular patterns. Any comments on optimum silver configurations? Would using HVAC or LVDC make a difference here? Thanks, jr -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSurinary track infection
My mum and dad both had kidney stones. Mum's last bout with them was an extremely hot summer ( she doesn't drink enough water at the best of times) and when she was admitted for laser treatment, the doctors told her they had seen a record number of people this summer with kindney stones. They believed it was due to people getting dehydrated, and everything becoming so concentrated. New one on me. What do you think about that? - Original Message - From: Malcolm Stebbins s...@asis.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, 3 April 2002 09:03 Subject: Re: CSurinary track infection Hi, I don't go along with your comment that an acidic environment in the urinary tract is linked to bladder or kidney stones, in fact I think it's just the opposite. Generally the stones are a compound of calcium, and can even be dissolved by adding acidic solutions to a chunk of one. There may be something, or some form of stone, I don't know about, or maybe there is some bodily reaction to the constant presence of an acidic environment, so if you have knowledge about some specifics I'd like to learn of them. Quite often, bacteria hide inside the stones, thus avoiding total destruction by the usual antibiotic regimen, and after even months of pills they return when the ABX are gone and in a few days to a week or so, there you are, yucky pee again. Malcolm Kathie Jones wrote: I suppose, any variance from a standard range of normal is what the bacterium that are often the culprits for urinary tract infections are fond of. Other bacteria may well favor a more acidic environment that what is * normal * and decreasing acid levels would discourage their staying. Too much acid in *some* people, over a period of many weeks or months, is linked to kidney stones. BUT...often there is something else going on that is encouraging this * i.e. consumption of too much soda *high carbonic acid levels*, genetic predisposition, imbalances in other parts of the bodies digestive or endocrine system. All in all, it goes back to Vit C helps the body's immune system *kick in* and kick out bacterial invaders, and is known to be especially efficient at combating UTIs when combined with cranberry. I stopped using cranberry juice, and switched to tablets a long time ago as the sugar in the drinks actually did the urinary system a disservice when trying to fight and infection. I have had HUGE success when doing this for myself, my daughter, hubby and my dog. :-) Gotta keep all the family members happy! *G* Kathie Hm... I was always under the impression that bacteria, and viruses liked to live in an Acidic environment Grant.. Kathie Jones wrote: LOTS of vitamin C and CS will do amazing things! :-) And don't forget cranberry tablets. The cranberry keeps the bacteria that is causing the infection from being able to * adhere * to the urinary system walls, the C makes the urine acidic * the bacteria like an alkaline environment*, and the CS will kill the bacteria off. Kathie -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSTo Ronen re CS generator
At 01:21 AM 4/2/02 -0800, you wrote: Hi Ronen, Good luck and be creative! Just make sure everything is sterile before using. Don't worry about sterilizing just make sure the container is very clean rise at least 3+ times preferably last rinse with distilled water. cs will sterilize everything I've never even cleaned my container since the first time I used it about 6-9 months ago have wiped it out a few times Sincerely Joseph B Fritz
CSMelanoma, Caused by?
Hi Wayne, I also am concerned at the hogwash we are being fed about Sunshine causing Skin Cancers. I believe the real cause are the unnatural chemicals which we are feeding and putting on our bodies. We are eating Polyunsaturated, partially unsaturated, hydrogenated and chemically altered oils. We also put on unhealthy combinations of petroleum based sun tan oils, mineral oils and chemically broken oils. Oils which have chemical perfumes. And what about the sunscreens are they of any benefit? I won't use them I think they are hazardous. We put insect repellants on our bodies then go play in the sun. We are also subjected to chemically filtered sunshine. We also breath air which is polluted with many cancer causing chemicals. The majority of people do not eat foods which pass through the system easily. Many people have slow digestion which allows toxins to develop in the digestive system. Our meat comes from fish and animals which are fed hormones, antibiotics and sprayed with insecticides. I believe in sun exposure. My Holistic Doctor has suggested that I take 1 tablespoon Carlson's Lemon Flavored Cod Liver Oil twice a day to get DHA, DPA, ALA, Vitamins A and D. He feels the that it helps to protect the brain from damage caused by MS. He also thinks it is protective of cancer. How about that. Marlene - Original Message - From: Wayne Fugitt Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2002 1:29 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSMalignant Melanoma Evening Larry, BONG, the light went on... I had bought a hot tub in1992 and use to get the chlorine so strong it would burn my eyesDUH DUDE.. DUH. I think chlorine is bad, any way you cut it and any way you get it. It appears to me, the mainstream is trying to brainwash the masses to believe the sunshine is bad and causes some forms of melanoma. In following this brainwashing, I have been irritated that the weather channel has had numerous ads telling the children to play in the shade. Even the Blue Cross publication had articles damming the sun and telling parents to keep children out of the sun. Now I get a newsletter from a half mainstream / half alternative doctor that says limit sunlight exposure to 15 minutes. ( Dr. Julian Whittaker ) To show how much I believe this hogwash, I just came in from a 1.5 hour work session in the sun with my shirt removed. Likely I will get 1.5 to 2.0 hours more before the day is over. I realize that specific individuals who have major body chemistry problems, multiple vitamin and mineral deficiencies, could in fact be damaged by the sunlight. Recently I read an article that was quoting world statistics on melanoma which stated that a large percent of the cases are in the northern states that get the least sunlight. So. have I been brainwashed in the wrong direction, or. is there a mainstream move to create more cancer? Wayne -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSMalignant Melanoma
Well here in Australia things seem to work differently. Skin cancer rates are far higher in the sunshine states of Queensland and Western Australia. Common sense should dictate that if you have a fair skin (eg, Anglo-Celtic or Nordic ancestry), ration the sun exposure accordingly. Kevin Nolan - Original Message - From: Wayne Fugitt wa...@fugitt.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 4:21 AM Subject: CSMalignant Melanoma Evening Larry, BONG, the light went on... I had bought a hot tub in1992 and use to get the chlorine so strong it would burn my eyesDUH DUDE.. DUH. I think chlorine is bad, any way you cut it and any way you get it. It appears to me, the mainstream is trying to brainwash the masses to believe the sunshine is bad and causes some forms of melanoma. In following this brainwashing, I have been irritated that the weather channel has had numerous ads telling the children to play in the shade. Even the Blue Cross publication had articles damming the sun and telling parents to keep children out of the sun. Now I get a newsletter from a half mainstream / half alternative doctor that says limit sunlight exposure to 15 minutes. ( Dr. Julian Whittaker ) To show how much I believe this hogwash, I just came in from a 1.5 hour work session in the sun with my shirt removed. Likely I will get 1.5 to 2.0 hours more before the day is over. I realize that specific individuals who have major body chemistry problems, multiple vitamin and mineral deficiencies, could in fact be damaged by the sunlight. Recently I read an article that was quoting world statistics on melanoma which stated that a large percent of the cases are in the northern states that get the least sunlight. So. have I been brainwashed in the wrong direction, or. is there a mainstream move to create more cancer? Wayne -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSUK compatible generator needed
cscats-dogs-subscr...@yahoogroups.com From: bonnie schmidlkofer bschm...@ij.net Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Tue, 2 Apr 2002 15:29:00 -0500 To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSUK compatible generator needed Resent-From: silver-list@eskimo.com Resent-Date: Tue, 2 Apr 2002 12:33:13 -0800 Connie, what is the address to subscribe to the CSCats-Dogs list? Bonnie - Original Message - From: Connie mailto:wufn...@stargate.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2002 2:02 PM Subject: Re: CSUK compatible generator needed Yes Trem, if you would pleasetrying to convince some of the members of the list (CSCats-Dogs), to beware of the high ppm productsencouraging them making their own instead. I will also forward your reply to my list. Thanks so much Trem! Connie From: Trem t...@silvergen.com Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Tue, 2 Apr 2002 10:40:46 -0800 To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSUK compatible generator needed Resent-From: silver-list@eskimo.com Resent-Date: Tue, 2 Apr 2002 10:41:43 -0800 Hi Connie, Sure, we make both 120 and 240 VAC generators and ship them all over the world. well to many countries. Haven't shipped to some countries yet. Would you like me to respond to Kaeren? Thanks for the recommendation. Trem - Original Message - From: Connie mailto:wufn...@stargate.net To: silver- list mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2002 10:01 AM Subject: CSUK compatible generator needed I have a UK member looking for a good generator. I always recommend silvergen, Trem you have something UK compatible, do you ship to the UK? -- From: kagoza maine-coons kagoza.maine-co...@ntlworld.com Does anyone know of a manufacturer that makes a generator usable in UK? Regards Kaeren and the Kagoza Maine Coons www.kagoza.com http://www.kagoza.com http://www.kagoza.com
Re: CSOptimum Shape of Silver Cathode/Anode
For LVDC: Silver plate is cost effective and, given that CS quality is better at lower electrode current density, the generally larger surface area means shorter run times for the same output quantity. But it really is just a matter of whatever suits your own budget and preferences. Kevin Nolan - Original Message - From: jrowl...@nctimes.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 7:52 AM Subject: CSOptimum Shape of Silver Cathode/Anode While silver wire seems to be most commonly used, I notice some use sheet silver in square or rectangular patterns. Any comments on optimum silver configurations? Would using HVAC or LVDC make a difference here? Thanks, jr -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSTo Ronen re CS generator
Well Malcolm, I am a fool (though not dead), I self infused CS through my PIC line this winter, I never sterilize my CS containersI did use aseptic technique as much as possible to do the infusion. Maybe I am not dead because my silvergen produced CS is so excellent? :^) Connie From: Malcolm Stebbins s...@asis.com Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Tue, 02 Apr 2002 14:04:25 -0800 To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSTo Ronen re CS generator Resent-From: silver-list@eskimo.com Resent-Date: Tue, 2 Apr 2002 14:24:48 -0800 Hi Connie, two comments on your post: First, whether sterility is or is not necessary would depend on too many factors; the notion that ANY CS made by Anyone with Any method at Any concentration is so effective a killer of Any pathogen that you're guaranteed to be safe for Any application goes way too far, and I expect you didn't mean that. But that is what you emphasized with NOTHING.! Second, anyone who undertook I.V. injection or other direct blood or lymph introduction of CS from any source without proper sterile precautions is somewhere between a fool and dead. Malcolm Connie wrote: Actually, sterility is no necessary!! Remember NOTHING grows in the presence of silver! No need to increase your workload by sterilizing things first!!! The CS will take care of that for you!! Simple rinsing with DW is all that is necessary. From: Nicola Kay n...@shaw.ca Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Tue, 02 Apr 2002 01:21:33 -0800 To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSTo Ronen re CS generator Resent-From: silver-list@eskimo.com Resent-Date: Tue, 2 Apr 2002 02:20:20 -0800 Hi Ronen, I am new to all this but I have made what might be the simplest of all generators. The pros here will hopefully correct any erroneous advice and add their knowledge to what Im telling you. If you have an AC/DC adaptor (I used one from a no longer functional cordless phone - has 24 volt output), just cut the jack end off, separate the wires and trim them back so you can wrap them around small alligator clips (cost about 25 cents). IF you dont have an AC/DC adaptor, you might find one at a garage sale or 2nd hand store for 50 cents or more (some people give them away as useless). Get some .999 silver (you can get it at ebay or perhaps from a local store, jeweller) or there are people on this list who sell it very cheaply. Shouldnt cost more than $5 or so to get started. You have to buy distilled water which is no more than a couple of dollars from your local supermarket or drugstore. Then sterilize a glass jar of any size (I use a 2 cup canning jar) and create a cover or lid for it that will accommodate the silver wire. You can also insert an air hose (air pumps for aquariums are only a few dollars - often you can find them at 2nd hand stores for around $1) to help keep the wires from producing black gunk in the water when the CS is being made. There are many ways to create a cover but heres what I did (creativity is the key here): I made a cover for my jar from an oversize plastic peanut butter jar lid. This lid is larger than my canning jar and therefore just sits on top of the jar. I hammered a large nail through the lid to run the air hose through, and then made a couple of small holes by hammering small nails through two opposite edges of the lid so they fit just inside the jar - the small nails are the size of the silver wire. Then you can lay the alligator clips holding the silver wire on top of the lid so the wire runs down into the water. You should sterilize all tools and components by pouring boiling water to cover the items before putting anything into the distilled water. This includes the cover and jar and all bits and pieces being used to produce your CS. My CS startup cost was $2: I had the AC/DC adaptor, my friend gave me the two pieces of silver wire and the alligator clips, I already had an aquarium pump and hose (which I sterilized), only had to buy the distilled water. Good luck and be creative! Just make sure everything is sterile before using.
Re: CSanother generator to critique
Thanks for the critique Trem. One of my list members has been using this unit for a year, she wanted my opinion. I told her I would have to refer her critique to the experts!! Connie From: Trem t...@silvergen.com Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Tue, 2 Apr 2002 13:37:50 -0800 To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSanother generator to critique Resent-From: silver-list@eskimo.com Resent-Date: Tue, 2 Apr 2002 13:38:39 -0800 Hi Connie, I went to the site and it looks suspiciously like a constant voltage device. They say it's current controlled but they tell you to shut it off when it reaches .2 milliamps. I think they don't have their numbers together. Typically that's the reading at the start when using distilled water. If they can't even tell you the proper numbers, would you trust the unit? Not me. Just another constant voltage device with a whistle (the meter) and not even a bell. Might as well use a wall wart and a multimeter to measure current and an aquarium bubbler. It would cost a lot less. And I wonder where they get 99.999% pure silver. I wouldn't believe it until they told me where they got it. Most likely it's .999 fine or 99.9% pure. And I don't even want to go near the spelling errors I see on the site. It reminds me of the phrase Cix munts ugo i cudnt even spel ingineer. Now i are one That's my take on it. Perhaps I'm too tough on them but good spelling and truth in advertising should be paramount on any commercial site. Trem - Original Message - From: Connie mailto:wufn...@stargate.net To: silver- list mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2002 12:31 PM Subject: CSanother generator to critique OK, here is a generator for ya.. http://www.wolfberries.com/
Re: CSUK compatible generator needed
UK compatible generator neededTry UK based dazer.com DH - Original Message - From: Connie To: silver- list Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2002 7:01 PM Subject: CSUK compatible generator needed I have a UK member looking for a good generator. I always recommend silvergen, Trem you have something UK compatible, do you ship to the UK? -- From: kagoza maine-coons kagoza.maine-co...@ntlworld.com Does anyone know of a manufacturer that makes a generator usable in UK? Regards Kaeren and the Kagoza Maine Coons www.kagoza.com http://www.kagoza.com
