Re: CS[Listowner] Rules Reminder... READ!
From: qec...@aol.com Subject: Re: CS[Listowner] Rules Reminder... READ! Resent-From: silver-list@eskimo.com Resent-Date: Tue, 6 Aug 2002 14:53:25 -0700 What if I use a silver crucifix to make colloidal silver? God will get you for that, but the devil will probably welcome you in. Jack
Re: CSConstant Current Generator
From: Keith pittcollo...@hotmail.com Subject: CSConstant Current Generator Resent-From: silver-list@eskimo.com Resent-Date: Tue, 6 Aug 2002 21:21:03 -0700 So far, I have only found 3 companies that sell constant current generators. Here are the links: www.silvergen.com http://www.silvergen.com http://www.pridecomm.cc/cs/ http://silverpuppy.com/page1b.html Welcome to the silver list Keith . Do you mind telling which one you decided on? Jack
Re: CSCS/Gel recipe?
Re: CSCS/Gel recipe? - Original Message - From: Rod STEVENSON To: James Osbourne, Holmes Sent: Wednesday, August 07, 2002 11:04 AM Subject: Re: CSCS/Gel recipe? James Osbourne, Holmes wrote; I saw one remarkable case where silver foil was laid over the burned area; a face. It seemed miraculous. Fireworks accident. I can't recall if there was any 3rd degree, but I know there was some 2nd. No scarring. Jack Dayton added; not sure if this suggestion has any validity, but burn victims on occasion are treated with sheets of some type of material to lay over the burn area I think it might come pre-wetted with CS and probably something in addition. Since the area being treated is on the surface this should accomplish what you are looking for. IMHO Thanks for your replies, What your both describing, seems to be part of a Japanese acupuncture technique called ion-pumping. It was used on burn vistims during WWII by Yoshio Manaka with great results, by all accounts. I've not heard of IPA being used for psoriasis,but it's worth considering. If I can find a supplier for the ion-pumping cords, I'll try it and let you know the results-if you're interested. Regards Rod Stevenson PS You mentioned the spray-already using this, but the pratitioners out there will know that patient compliance (especially if it involves repeated treatment) is one of the main reasons that a tried and trusted therapy doesn't work. Nothing does if it's sat on the shelf.
CS500 PPM
Hello Everyone, Yesterday I stopped at the health food store to pick up some supplements. As I walked in the door , the worker stopped me and told me a story about how someone gave her a quart of 500 PPM of CS. The CS was grey in color and this worker was leery of using it on her husband. I had reservation too but, wasn't sure of my facts so all I could give was my opinon. She did say her husband , seemed more stable, taking an ounce a day of this cs. This worker went on to say that it was made with sea salt as a starter to increase conductivity. Well, that was all I needed, I told her not to use it orally.i.eswallowing it. I told her the CS could have been made with a previous few ounces of CS as a starter if the maker had wanted conductivity. I've heard it mentioned on the list , that any PPM over 50 wasn't considered a true colloidal silver. Can someone explain the reasoning behind this? Thanks, Roger Ragain Cahokia, Illinois United States of America E-mail: rrag...@juno.com -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSmercury
From: brick...@aol.com Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Tue, 6 Aug 2002 19:59:15 EDT To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSmercury Resent-From: silver-list@eskimo.com Resent-Date: Tue, 6 Aug 2002 16:59:52 -0700 Just had my yearly prostate check and I still have an enlarged prostate. Zapper and herbs have not shrunk it. PSA test results dropped again as it has each of the five years doing IV Chelations. My DR said that taking Saw Palmetto may take 18 months or longer to shrink the prostate. He did not have any data on Beta Sitosterile. Well as an expert on a swollen prostate , BPH for short, I 've had one for about 8 or 9 years. I think your doctor either doesn't like the idea of using herbals, or he is badly misinformed about the length of time it takes to produce a reduction in the size. It is not uncommon for some herbals to take about 30 days before results do occur. The stinging sensation will be the first thing you will probably notice has gone, soon followed by an increased flow rate and then how many times you will have to get up during the night. I will caution you about low - priced Saw Palmetto - my buying has run the bargain product list. I can supply you with the address of my current source if you would like to pursue this. Jack -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSForgot to add....CS and amalgam..
Thank you Catherine! PS...does anyone know how to reply to a digest item using hotmail, so far all my attempts have been in vain, consecuently I can't put in the original comments .sorry..) 1) Highlight the text you wish to use 2) COPY 3) click REPLY or NEW 4) PASTE When you highlight the text, also highlight the thread title, then you can CUT and PASTE that into the SUBJECT area of the email. [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCS/Gel recipe?
Folks, haven't we discussed a recipe for mixing CS with Aloe gel, plus some ... baking soda? ... to buffer the pH? Marshall, was that you? Ivan? Be well, Mike D. [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSMercury
But, of course, mercury is harmless, as 99 percent of the dentists and the ADA insist The dentist and staff looked like spacemen, dams,etc were used and gowns. The surgery had special air/ventilation. The mercury was collected by some sort of suction gadget and was placed in a hazardous waste container for special collection. All very high teck. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSMercury Link
Found this link but don't know if it's been posted before: Should you have your fillings replaced? Check out: http://www.topdeckdental.co.uk/Amalgam/Amalgams%20Replaced.htm After finding this today I know now that I have a few of them. Eeeek! Mexico is unpractical for me. Beth B. - Original Message - From: Bill Missett To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, August 07, 2002 7:18 AM Subject: CSMercury But, of course, mercury is harmless, as 99 percent of the dentists and the ADA insist The dentist and staff looked like spacemen, dams,etc were used and gowns. The surgery had special air/ventilation. The mercury was collected by some sort of suction gadget and was placed in a hazardous waste container for special collection. All very high teck. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSBrewer's yeast and insects
I read that eating lots of brewers yeast would keep the bugs away. Hasn't it got a lot of B vitamins in it? Maybe it's the B-3. Jeannie Hi~ Brewer's yeast keeps fleas away from cats so it seems like it might also protect people from mosquitos, but when you figure how much more we weigh than a cat, it might take an awful large quantity of it. When we first got cats, the fleas were terrrible. I read about giving them brewer's yeast to solve the problem, but it just made the fleas leave the cats and eat us instead. But for the last 8 years we have not had any problem with fleas, we don't even use flea collars. I start mixing 1/4 tsp. of brewer's yeast in each cat's canned food each morning. I do this every day until we have had snow or enough cold weather that flea season is over. It makes the cat taste or smell bad to the fleas and they stay away. But you must get it built up in their body before flea season starts. Karen G -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CS[Listowner] Rules Reminder... READ!
Re: CS[Listowner] Rules Reminder... READ!I have a crucifix made of dice. What is he going to do to me? James-Osbourne: Holmes -Original Message- From: Jack Dayton [mailto:jack...@harbornet.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 07, 2002 3:39 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CS[Listowner] Rules Reminder... READ! From: qec...@aol.com Subject: Re: CS[Listowner] Rules Reminder... READ! Resent-From: silver-list@eskimo.com Resent-Date: Tue, 6 Aug 2002 14:53:25 -0700 What if I use a silver crucifix to make colloidal silver? God will get you for that, but the devil will probably welcome you in. Jack
Re: CSmercury
I have found that a supplement which contains several ingredients works much better than saw palmetto its own. I currently use a product called prostate support by NOW that has given me great results. It includes saw palmetto, stinging nettle, pygeum, pumpkin seed oil and lycopene. If you are interested in trying it Iherb.com has the best price that I've found. Good Luck! Chip Hoyle brick...@aol.com wrote: I have had dental work down in two Mexican cities, Tecate and Los Algodones and have seven different dentists work on my teeth. I would recommend all of them. I belong to an RV club where I have to move to a different trailer park every two weeks. My biggest problem is finding a dentist that will do the work in the two week period before I have to move on. I had porcelain crowns put on where I had mercury fillings. My insurance paid for the new crowns at $125 each. Just had my yearly prostate check and I still have an enlarged prostate. Zapper and herbs have not shrunk it. PSA test results dropped again as it has each of the five years doing IV Chelations. My DR said that taking Saw Palmetto may take 18 months or longer to shrink the prostate. He did not have any data on Beta Sitosterile. Brickey -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSbrushing swishing
My original question was: Since I can't have the mercury in my teeth removed right now, will brushing with CS and also swishing some around in one's mouth afterwards help to neutralize the effects of the mercury in my teeth. And is this a matter of over a long period of time? Part 2 of my question: What is the best strength to use? Health food stores have 10ppm, 22 ppm, 30ppm, 500ppm. I have been using 10 ppm. Is 500 better? or is 22 better than 10. what is recommended. Thank you all for your input re: having mercury removed -- the process, and many other postings of interest. Alexandra -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CS[Listowner] Rules Reminder... READ!
In a message dated 8/6/2002 10:36:21 PM Eastern Daylight Time, miss...@prodigy.net.mx writes: Hey -- if your curcifix is .999, it's OK just as long as we don't have to recite your benediction ritual... It's .9
Re: CS[Listowner] Rules Reminder... READ!
Now, let's say that my neighbor has a Mercedes and the little hood ornament was made of . silver. I could then make CS and call it the Mercedes of colloidal silvers. Something just occurred to me: this isn't really all that funny is it? -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CS[Listowner] Rules Reminder... READ!
In a message dated 8/7/2002 10:26:23 AM Eastern Daylight Time, a...@cybermesa.com writes: I have a crucifix made of dice. What is he going to do to me? James-Osbourne: Holmes Maybe if you're lucky, he'll roll that dice to determine what level of hell you will reside in for all eternity?
CSHVAC home-made generators
Hello Silver List, I have a question regarding a home-made generator which was talked about on this list a while back.. it is a AC-DC adapter with the ends cut and attached to alligator clips which in turn are to grasp the silver wire or coins This system works well, but the partical size is larger and therefore the color is pale (very pale) yellow. Does anyone else have any experience with this kind of generator? I am wondering how to get smaller particals and also... Can you mix batches.larger partical size with battery batch with smaller partical size??? Most talk on the list is usually over my head. I appreciate any assistance and plain talk. Also, I have a friend whose young niece (9 yrs) has contracted Lyme and he is asking me for more information about dosage etcIs MarshaLee availble for direct contact with this man? Thanks in advance. Paula P. Smith -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CS[Listowner] Rules Reminder... READ!
James opines: I can't discuss this on-list any more, it is a violation of list protocol. I apoloqize to all for asking the initial question. The List God definitly has jurisdiction over me, and I Know his wrath from past trangressions. James jumped and glanced around, worriedly, at the sound of a distant rumble of thunder ... A deep, still, quiet voice intoned, Very good James. grin Mike D. [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCS/Gel recipe?
Date: Wed, 07 Aug 2002 11:38:47 -0400 From: Marshall Dudley mdud...@execonn.com To:silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSCS/Gel recipe? Reply-to: silver-list@eskimo.com Yes, it was I. I have found that combo to be excellent for things like burns and acne. Ummm, what were the proportions of aloe, CS, and baking soda? M. [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CS[Listowner] Rules Reminder... READ!
You mean all the kind, generous and loving actions of this life are all wiped away by owning a plastic cross made out of dice? That's mean. I think he needs to attend an anger managment seminar. Besides, he made me; so if he screwed up, why do I have to take the heat, in a manner of speaking? Does all eternity include the present? Or just what happens after today? Since he knows everything that will or has happended, he knew I would get the cross. Why didn't he just send me to hell when I was born? Further, why create me just to put me in hell. I am very confused. The Greatful Dead addressed these questions in; The Victim or the Crime, ...must I be dammed in order to be saved?... I can't discuss this on-list any more, it is a violation of list protocol. I apoloqize to all for asking the initial question. The List God definitly has jurisdiction over me, and I Know his wrath from past trangressions. If God is on line, I hope he knows I am just kidding. It is OK big fella, isn't it...OK? ,,, Hello? James-Osbourne: Holmes -Original Message- From: qec...@aol.com [mailto:qec...@aol.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 07, 2002 10:25 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CS[Listowner] Rules Reminder... READ! In a message dated 8/7/2002 10:26:23 AM Eastern Daylight Time, a...@cybermesa.com writes: I have a crucifix made of dice. What is he going to do to me? James-Osbourne: Holmes Maybe if you're lucky, he'll roll that dice to determine what level of hell you will reside in for all eternity?
CSCS and Lyme
Also, I have a friend whose young niece (9 yrs) has contracted Lyme and he is asking me for more information about dosage etcIs MarshaLee availble for direct contact with this man? Thanks in advance. Paula P. Smith Dear Paula, I`m here, send me to him! Marshalee --- Introducing NetZero Long Distance Unlimited Long Distance only $29.95/ month! Sign Up Today! www.netzerolongdistance.com -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSTests for ozonated water/ CS by source frequency resonance?
(Note;Below I have outlined a method whereby a single electrode can be used for CS production. I need to find a source for proper silver wire in this regard. I also wish to mix this with much larger 5 gallon samples of energized tap water made by J ellis device.) Hi all, resubscribed to list to get some info. Interested in finding firms that can test for water ozonation %, and was wondering if any firms can verify water samples having a changed bonding angle on the molecule. Also interested in obtaining silver for making colloidal silver water. My brother Robert recently shelled out 1700 dollars for John Ellis machine that produces energized tap water, and also a smaller % of ozonated distilled water. I think the URL for his product was at www.johnellis.com He claims his process rids water of any disease markers or virus ect. Having examined the device it appears the main function of the machine is to use a quartz/ ozone bulb above the boiling chamber. One can remove the bulb from the chamber and surely enough it emits an ozone smell, as I am well aquainted with ozone from other research. A jpeg of the bulb removed from the machine is at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/teslafy/files/WAT/Dsc00248.jpg I am interested in comparing his water to a different ozonation process I am working with that actually passes current through the water. This uses a pair of large induction coils,(60 henry, 23 gauge wire, 1000 ohms) that are tuned for mutual induction as 180 phased series resonances to the 60 hz power grid frequency. This produces bipolar voltages equivalent to an NST, but not by transformer principle, but by bipolar resonant rise of voltage. In a NST secondary, generally a 30 ma current limited output is predicated from the fact that if we measure the inductance of L2, and by impedance calculate the available current at the specified secondary voltage output: this is the maximum current the (secondary)system will draw. In a similar fashion a short can be placed between the bipolar resonant voltage rises of these high induction coils/ where in open switch the q of each coil being ~ 15: this gives a 30 fold voltage rise compared to the voltage input. When the short is applied and measured we find its current limited value to be quite low, it is reduced to a value of q of the former consumption, about 40,000 ohms inductive reactance in this case. A neon bulb placed across these potentials will blink, and it is quickly found that when the binary resonant system; BRS is operated with an arc gap to produce high frequency effects from the coils, this can be measured with scoped coils around the space of that system, but the important point is that it operates with the characteristic tendency of producing a self quenching arc. An ordinary tesla coil system may wish to have the arc on primary occur in conjuction with the supply frequency, and also the arc to occur in time with the point when the supply voltage is at zero volts, or its polarity change period. The normal mode of operation might be 120 BPS, or bursts per second using two arcs per 60 hz cycle. However with the BRS system and arc gap manipulations, it was possible to produce rates of 1200 BPS. This becomes interesting in the study of making a high frequency phenomenon occur more continuously, because typically at 120 BPS, there are long time periods existing between the RF ringdowns. Eventually a unique coil system was made using a single layer wind of speaker wire around a 3 inch stack of ceramic magnets. The arc gap for the coils was altered to consist of a water/ glass barrier. The bottom polarity electrode uses a stainless steel plate, with an intervening glass filled with water. The top (opposite voltage) connection is a needle driven through a supporting cigarette pack. By placing the needle just above the water surface, an arc can be made to occur in very rapid firings. This high frequency process apparently stimulates the magnet and its layer of windings to act as high frequency emmitors on the ends of the wire, to enable one ended neon discharges, where the fields around those neons can induce emf on a surrounding inductor. It was further found that no arcing need take place, and that simply having the needle in the water will register a tamed down rf event quite equalized for each polarity change. Here is a process where I could replace the needle with silver and make samples. Study of the neon disharges showed that one ended ones could be enhanced by giving the bulb ending a polar capacity in the form of aluminum foil area. One can touch this foil and feel no shock, if the body is not significantly grounded. One can also place inductors above this plate area to see the signals induced on the inductor by the rapidly changing electric field by the rf burst, which here is technically replaced by that of the neon discharge to plate area itself, since the arc gap has been eliminated by submerging the needle. Bipolar connection/ pos. of
Re: CSCS/Gel recipe?
Check out www.mildsilverprotein.com They have products and a protocol. - Original Message - From: MARIANO DELISE To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, August 07, 2002 12:02 AM Subject: Re: CSCS/Gel recipe? My friend had psoriasis. She put CS on gauze pads and placed directly on the psoriasis. She then covered this with saran plastic wrap so the pad would remain moist all night. After a couple of nights of direct contace, the psoriasis began to clear up. Of course drinking it at the same time is a good idea. Nancy - Original Message - From: Rod STEVENSON To: silverlist Sent: Tuesday, August 06, 2002 11:05 AM Subject: Re: CSCS/Gel recipe? Thanks James, I guessed that the properties of any CS might change with a gel, this is why I didn't want to jst add it to, an aloe vera gel for instance. I have a patient with chronic and very stubborn psoriasis. It extends from the back of the head, then in various size patches over the back and the back of the legs to the lateral surface of the lower leg. Over a peroid of many months the fungal infection/psoriasis that covered most of her toe/fingernails has been resolved. I say fungal/psoriasis since even after several visits to a Harley Street dermatologist, a concrete diagnosis was never made. There has been some success using a seven star needle (trad. acupunture technique) which has improved since I started making my own CS (with an SG7) and cleaning the graze that results from a heavy 7SN technique. So, the reason I want to combine CS with a gel is to have the CS in contact with the skin for 90%+ of the time rather than the hour or so that I see her for. Sorry this is a little involved, but I thought that the reason I need a gel recipe was important. Many thanks for any help Rod Stevenson PS After doing my own tests on my home produced CS, with milk, yeast meat etc, I now use CS to disinfect surfaces and sterilize all my equipment (other than needles -which are single use ) You might not know it but this is about as strong a recommendation as I could ever give. - Original Message - From: James Osbourne, Holmes To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, August 06, 2002 12:00 AM Subject: RE: CSCS/Gel recipe? Studies of CS against bacteria done on plated nutrients do not work as well as those done in broth. A jell is a colloid itself. This may change the properties of CS from that of a liquid preparation. James-Osbourne: Holmes -Original Message- From: Rod STEVENSON [mailto:r...@stevenson7399.fsnet.co.uk] Sent: Monday, August 05, 2002 4:58 PM To: silverlist Subject: CSCS/Gel recipe? Hi List, Does anyone know of a preprepared gel, that can be combined with CS? Better still would be a list of ingredients and method to make my (our) own. Any ideas? TIA Rod.
CSAIDS drug resistance grows
BOSTON (Reuters) - The miracle drugs that transformed AIDS from an automatic death sentence into a disease people could live with are losing their effectiveness, researchers said Wednesday. The virus that causes AIDS, which has killed more than 20 million people around the world and infected 40 million more, is rapidly developing a resistance to antiretroviral drugs designed to prolong the lives of sufferers in countries that can afford them. The finding, published in Thursday's New England Journal of Medicine, is based in part on tests on the AIDS virus, HIV, at medical centers in 10 North American cities. Investigators discovered that while only 3.4 percent of the 264 new cases they tested were resistant to 15 anti-HIV drugs from 1995 to 1998, the rate jumped to 12.2 percent of the 113 new infections in the years 1999 and 2000. At the same time, the rate of HIV infections resistant to more than one drug rose from 1.1 percent to 6.2 percent. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSConstant Current Generator
Here is the best one I have found http://www.synergenesis.com/Colloidal_Silver_Generator.html Tel Tofflemire Dewey , AZ Jack Dayton wrote: From: Keith pittcollo...@hotmail.com Subject: CSConstant Current Generator Resent-From: silver-list@eskimo.com Resent-Date: Tue, 6 Aug 2002 21:21:03 -0700 So far, I have only found 3 companies that sell constant current generators. Here are the links: www.silvergen.com http://www.silvergen.com http://www.pridecomm.cc/cs/ http://silverpuppy.com/page1b.html Welcome to the silver list Keith . Do you mind telling which one you decided on? Jack
Re: CSConstant Current Generator
On Wed, 07 Aug 2002 14:36:36 -0700, Tel Tofflemire telt...@cableone.net wrote: Here is the best one I have found http://www.synergenesis.com/Colloidal_Silver_Generator.html But it doesn't have a stirrer. -- Dean -- from (almost) Des Moines -- KB0ZDF -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSFw: DOCTOR YOURSELF NEWS (Vol 2, No 20) August 20, 2002
Don't know if you listers are familiar with this doctor, but you occasionally find something worthwhile in his free e-newsletter. I have already berated him for not having a single archive item on CS. - Original Message - From: Dr. Andrew Saul drs...@doctoryourself.com To: n...@doctoryourself.com Sent: Wednesday, August 07, 2002 6:22 PM Subject: DOCTOR YOURSELF NEWS (Vol 2, No 20) August 20, 2002 (To immediately unsubscribe and receive confirmation of it, please send a blank email to news-unsubscr...@doctoryourself.com ) A lot of people go through life trying to prove that the things that are good for them are wrong. (Ward Cleaver, on Leave it to Beaver) The DOCTOR YOURSELF NEWSLETTER (Vol 2, No 20) August 20, 2002 Free of charge, free of advertising, and free of the A.M.A. Written by Andrew Saul, PhD. of http://www.doctoryourself.com , a free online library of over 350 natural healing articles with nearly 4,000 scientific references. HEALTH CO-OPS: AN IDEA WHOSE TIME HAS COME. . . MAYBE For twenty years I have been advocating that people form their own neighborhood health self-reliance cooperatives. ( http://www.doctoryourself.com/faq.html ) These could be organized along the lines of a club, day-care pool, or neighborhood watch group. The benefits might be considerable. Imagine if all your neighbors pooled their knowledge of what they'd found to be effective for, say, baby's colic. What a great, free, 3-in-the-morning resource for the new parent. How about sharing the best cough or fever remedies? How did your friends get their kids into the local public schools without having them vaccinated? Which doctors (as opposed to witch doctors) near you are any good? Who in town will let you borrow their copy of that hard-to-find health book you want to read? The possibilities are virtually limitless. So are the potential pitfalls. Such a group assumes that people want to take the time to learn, ( http://www.doctoryourself.com/advice.html ) and then take the time to unselfishly share. That's a lot of assumption, but it is vital. Otherwise, no dice. Everybody will tell you how busy they always are, at least until their kid is sick and they suddenly hope YOU are there for them. One-sided simply won't work. It takes two to make a marriage work, but only one to wreck it. In a group, it takes everyone to make it work, and only one to ruin the experience for all. I have found internet newsgroups to be a case in point. Even a well-functioning health self-reliance group could easily become parasitized by profit-seekers. Health product distributors are everywhere, and are quick to see sales opportunities in enlisting such a bunch of interested people. There is little doubt that a successful information co-op would have to resist commercialization, and that is not easy. Then there is the legality of it all. You may treat yourself and your immediate family with little threat from the powers that be, but your assistance to a neighbor might cross both the criminal line of medical practice and the civil line of liability. Good Samaritan laws notwithstanding, non-emergency aid to another family would have to be most carefully provided. As long as ones input is free of charge, and strictly educational in nature, I do not think there is a jury out there that would convict. But the worry would remain. These turn out to be among the reasons why we have doctors, why they charge fees, and why we are generally content to go to them. And this is why you probably feel like you are on your own when it comes to learning about what ails you. Fortunately, there are resources for you Lone Rangers. The internet and your public library continue to be the two best places for you to look up and learn about a health issue. There is **no such thing** as information that is only available to physicians. You can read anything they can. http://www.doctoryourself.com/healthquestions.html And here are some great papers that your doctor probably has **not** read, so perhaps you'd better: http://www.doctoryourself.com/vithall.html I get a lot of mail from people who are reluctant (if not downright unwilling) to search and find and read for themselves. Folks often send me, unrequested, their detailed medical histories (Sometimes fully illustrated, too. Please: no more hemorrhoid surgery photos; my collection is adequate.) They fully expect me to review the matter and advise them on precisely what to do. That's not going to happen with me. Remember, I am not a physician. If you need that kind of service, see your doctor. To be free of such a need, see your librarian and ask for any of the books mentioned here: http://www.doctoryourself.com/bestbooks.html http://www.doctoryourself.com/morebooks.html http://www.doctoryourself.com/hoffer_reviews.html And if you really want to do it up right, take this along with you:
Re: CSHVAC home-made generators
Barbara, have you searched the archives HERE on this list for the hazards of using MSP? Connie From: Barbara Liles ba...@netease.net Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2002 03:30:53 -0500 To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSHVAC home-made generators Resent-From: silver-list@eskimo.com Resent-Date: Wed, 7 Aug 2002 13:31:39 -0700 Hello Paula, There are doctors who are treating Lyme disease aggressively and successfully by using IV colloidal silver. While I am an advocate of oral CS I think that serious illnesses should be hit hard from the onset! Mild Silver Protein Research at 334-493-0420 or www.mildsilverprotein.com I got assistance in locating a doctor near me that implemented a IV protocol to address a health problem that had me in the hospital or on home IV antibiotics for three and a half years). This company literally gave me back my health. The doctors using this product KNOW what it can do. Additionally, there was a young girl at the clinic when I was there with Lyme disease who was getting well after being jerked around by modern medicine even at the Mayo Clinic in Jacksonville, FL! Once again, let me reiterate, I brew CS at home, but I knew I needed a big gun to equalize my bodies ability to fight. It's easier to get out of a hole before it gets too deep! Hope this helps! - Original Message - From: Paula P Smith paul...@juno.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, August 07, 2002 11:30 AM Subject: CSHVAC home-made generators Hello Silver List, I have a question regarding a home-made generator which was talked about on this list a while back.. it is a AC-DC adapter with the ends cut and attached to alligator clips which in turn are to grasp the silver wire or coins This system works well, but the partical size is larger and therefore the color is pale (very pale) yellow. Does anyone else have any experience with this kind of generator? I am wondering how to get smaller particals and also... Can you mix batches.larger partical size with battery batch with smaller partical size??? Most talk on the list is usually over my head. I appreciate any assistance and plain talk. Also, I have a friend whose young niece (9 yrs) has contracted Lyme and he is asking me for more information about dosage etcIs MarshaLee availble for direct contact with this man? Thanks in advance. Paula P. Smith -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSConstant Current Generator
In article 2e53lusumvamb93a2n2c1kjq8q41pav...@4ax.com, Dean T. Miller dtmil...@midiowa.net wrote: On Wed, 07 Aug 2002 14:36:36 -0700, Tel Tofflemire telt...@cableone.net wrote: Here is the best one I have found http://www.synergenesis.com/Colloidal_Silver_Generator.html But it doesn't have a stirrer. Yabbut, the flexibility in container size, the polarity reversal, and the auto-shutoff are really nice features, and it's easy enough to add stirring. Here's how I did it: http://207.177.74.117/cs-gen.jpg Using an air bubbler for stirring is unacceptable to some people, but the Colloid Master's container flexibility allows other stirring methods to be added very easily. Although the CS lore says magnetic fields are a no-no, a friend of mine is using a magnetic lab stirrer for his CS, and it works great. That's what I'll try next. -- John A. Stanley j...@natel.net -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCS/Gel recipe?
Re: CSCS/Gel recipe?Might check out MSP Research's product Burn Mist. It contains silver, MSM, purified lignin extract and sulfated castor oil. Addresses pain and infection. This too won't work sitting on the shelf, but because it is a spray, people are more apt to be compliant. - Original Message - From: Rod STEVENSON To: silverlist Sent: Wednesday, August 07, 2002 5:07 AM Subject: Re: CSCS/Gel recipe? - Original Message - From: Rod STEVENSON To: James Osbourne, Holmes Sent: Wednesday, August 07, 2002 11:04 AM Subject: Re: CSCS/Gel recipe? James Osbourne, Holmes wrote; I saw one remarkable case where silver foil was laid over the burned area; a face. It seemed miraculous. Fireworks accident. I can't recall if there was any 3rd degree, but I know there was some 2nd. No scarring. Jack Dayton added; not sure if this suggestion has any validity, but burn victims on occasion are treated with sheets of some type of material to lay over the burn area I think it might come pre-wetted with CS and probably something in addition. Since the area being treated is on the surface this should accomplish what you are looking for. IMHO Thanks for your replies, What your both describing, seems to be part of a Japanese acupuncture technique called ion-pumping. It was used on burn vistims during WWII by Yoshio Manaka with great results, by all accounts. I've not heard of IPA being used for psoriasis,but it's worth considering. If I can find a supplier for the ion-pumping cords, I'll try it and let you know the results-if you're interested. Regards Rod Stevenson PS You mentioned the spray-already using this, but the pratitioners out there will know that patient compliance (especially if it involves repeated treatment) is one of the main reasons that a tried and trusted therapy doesn't work. Nothing does if it's sat on the shelf.
Re: CSConstant Current Generator
Re: CSConstant Current GeneratorKeith Said: So far, I have only found 3 companies that sell constant current generators. Here are the links: www.silvergen.com http://www.pridecomm.cc/cs/ http://silverpuppy.com/page1b.html Jack Said: Welcome to the silver list Keith . Do you mind telling which one you decided on? Jack, I am using the SG6 from Silvergen. However, since I bought it, Pridecomm has come out with one that sounds very good and it only cost $69.95! I just ordered the PS50 from Pridecomm so I can start making Colloidal Gold. Read the comparison below. It is really going to come down to your personal preference. The most important thing is that you have constant current to prevent runaway and keep the particles as small as possible. Silvergen Advantages * Designed specifically for colloidal silver * Lots of features Disadvantages * Cost $119 to $597 Pridecomm Advantages * Cost $69.95 to 199.95 * The PS30 PS50 can be used for Colloidal Gold and other metals and are fully adjustable for constant current or voltage. * These standard DC Power Supplies can be used for other purposes * No auto-shutoff so you can make it as strong as you want (this may be a disadvantage for some, but you can add a timer shut-off) Disadvantages * No fancy features, but the kits come with add-ons. The PS10 from Pridecomm is preset for Colloidal Silver. Each model ships as a basic or delux kit with add-ons for making Colloidal Metals. Pridecomm suggests using a coffee pot warmer to cause thermal stirring. Some may not believe in heating it. I haven't made up my mind on this yet. The SG6 from Silvergen is real nice, but if you want to save money the PS10 sounds very suitable. Tel Tofflemire wrote: Here is the best one I have found http://www.synergenesis.com/Colloidal_Silver_Generator.html Tel Tofflemire Dewey , AZ Tel, I can't tell if this one is constant current... Sincerely, Keith Pittman
Re: CSConstant Current Generator
Duh,For $4,75 you can get the best stirer Air Bubbler from a pet store or Walmart or Kmart...(a air tank fish bubbler) I have been using one for well over a year...no metal filings, no moving parts to slip , fall off, or replace. Fish tank airator works very well , very simple. Its as clean as the air you breath. Tel Tofflemire Dewey, AZ Dean T. Miller wrote: On Wed, 07 Aug 2002 14:36:36 -0700, Tel Tofflemire telt...@cableone.net wrote: Here is the best one I have found http://www.synergenesis.com/Colloidal_Silver_Generator.html But it doesn't have a stirrer. -- Dean -- from (almost) Des Moines -- KB0ZDF -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSHVAC home-made generators
Hello Paula, There are doctors who are treating Lyme disease aggressively and successfully by using IV colloidal silver. While I am an advocate of oral CS I think that serious illnesses should be hit hard from the onset! Mild Silver Protein Research at 334-493-0420 or www.mildsilverprotein.com I got assistance in locating a doctor near me that implemented a IV protocol to address a health problem that had me in the hospital or on home IV antibiotics for three and a half years). This company literally gave me back my health. The doctors using this product KNOW what it can do. Additionally, there was a young girl at the clinic when I was there with Lyme disease who was getting well after being jerked around by modern medicine even at the Mayo Clinic in Jacksonville, FL! Once again, let me reiterate, I brew CS at home, but I knew I needed a big gun to equalize my bodies ability to fight. It's easier to get out of a hole before it gets too deep! Hope this helps! - Original Message - From: Paula P Smith paul...@juno.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, August 07, 2002 11:30 AM Subject: CSHVAC home-made generators Hello Silver List, I have a question regarding a home-made generator which was talked about on this list a while back.. it is a AC-DC adapter with the ends cut and attached to alligator clips which in turn are to grasp the silver wire or coins This system works well, but the partical size is larger and therefore the color is pale (very pale) yellow. Does anyone else have any experience with this kind of generator? I am wondering how to get smaller particals and also... Can you mix batches.larger partical size with battery batch with smaller partical size??? Most talk on the list is usually over my head. I appreciate any assistance and plain talk. Also, I have a friend whose young niece (9 yrs) has contracted Lyme and he is asking me for more information about dosage etcIs MarshaLee availble for direct contact with this man? Thanks in advance. Paula P. Smith -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSHVAC home-made generators
Connie, Some of them. Ultimately I had to make a decision because I wasn't going to be alive if something didn't change. I was shooting up some of my home brew because I believed the silver was the key to my wellness. Believe me it is rather nerve racking to be dosing yourself with a concoction that you aren't even sure of the strength I had been looking into MSP and decided to go for it!Call it divine intervention or what. but am enjoying awesome health. For me doing something was better than the fizzling out I had been engaged in for years. Having been done in by multiple MD's in various and sundry specialties, it couldn't get much worse! Guess we all have to make a call sometime. Maybe I'm a wing and a prayer type. Whatever works!!! Thanks for your interest! - Original Message - From: Connie wufn...@stargate.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, August 07, 2002 5:40 PM Subject: Re: CSHVAC home-made generators Barbara, have you searched the archives HERE on this list for the hazards of using MSP? Connie From: Barbara Liles ba...@netease.net Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2002 03:30:53 -0500 To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSHVAC home-made generators Resent-From: silver-list@eskimo.com Resent-Date: Wed, 7 Aug 2002 13:31:39 -0700 Hello Paula, There are doctors who are treating Lyme disease aggressively and successfully by using IV colloidal silver. While I am an advocate of oral CS I think that serious illnesses should be hit hard from the onset! Mild Silver Protein Research at 334-493-0420 or www.mildsilverprotein.com I got assistance in locating a doctor near me that implemented a IV protocol to address a health problem that had me in the hospital or on home IV antibiotics for three and a half years). This company literally gave me back my health. The doctors using this product KNOW what it can do. Additionally, there was a young girl at the clinic when I was there with Lyme disease who was getting well after being jerked around by modern medicine even at the Mayo Clinic in Jacksonville, FL! Once again, let me reiterate, I brew CS at home, but I knew I needed a big gun to equalize my bodies ability to fight. It's easier to get out of a hole before it gets too deep! Hope this helps! - Original Message - From: Paula P Smith paul...@juno.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, August 07, 2002 11:30 AM Subject: CSHVAC home-made generators Hello Silver List, I have a question regarding a home-made generator which was talked about on this list a while back.. it is a AC-DC adapter with the ends cut and attached to alligator clips which in turn are to grasp the silver wire or coins This system works well, but the partical size is larger and therefore the color is pale (very pale) yellow. Does anyone else have any experience with this kind of generator? I am wondering how to get smaller particals and also... Can you mix batches.larger partical size with battery batch with smaller partical size??? Most talk on the list is usually over my head. I appreciate any assistance and plain talk. Also, I have a friend whose young niece (9 yrs) has contracted Lyme and he is asking me for more information about dosage etcIs MarshaLee availble for direct contact with this man? Thanks in advance. Paula P. Smith -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
