Re: CS>pharmaceutical grade silver (99.999)
I was under the impression that once you get around .999 percent pure silver, the quality of the water was more important than the purity of the silver. Didn't someone run some numbers on this in the past? I personally like the . stuff because it is easy to get in 12 gauge. Andy
Re: CS>selenium, vitamin E, and CS
<> H...if I didn't know any better I'd think I was drunk, lol. Time to go to bed. The fingers have stopped cooperating with the brain. C
Re: CS>selenium, vitamin E, and CS
Dear Pat, You said: <> I think you must mean micrograms (mcg) of selenium, not milligrams (mg). If you're taking 400 mg. of selenuim you're going to get to meet those grest inventors soner than you thought, lol. Regards, Catherine
Re: CS>[ot] hypothyroid was Selenium
Dear Sharon, You said: <> Different tests are for different purposes. If you are concerned you are deficient in selenium then both plasma/serum total Se and plasma glutathione peroxidase are what you want. Each provides slightly different information. For selenium toxicity, a person would have total plasma/serum Se done. I think some of the best thyroid info around is at Mary Shomon's site at http://thyroid.about.com/index.htm?terms=Hypothyroidism Regards, Catherine -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS> CS and termites
Aargh- I just went and sprayed my flowers with CS because I remember reading it was good for the plants. Now I am killing bees. I guess I will limit the use of CS to indoor plants unless one of you can absolve me. Just how much CS does it take to kill an insect? Anyone know? Sharon It is not a parasite, it is the intestinal flora of the termite. It is believed that CS will kill the bacteria, and thus the termite, but I am not aware of any tests run on termites. It has been confirmed that CS will kill honeybees by that route though. Marshall
Re: CS>[ot] hypothyroid was Selenium
<> Can you expound on hypothyroidism? I do have it. But most of the docs I have been to just want to throw some pills at you and send you on your way, with no discussion on how best to live with it. I have my theories. Like that somehow it is connected to depression. And that strenuous exercise will help balance it. But these are just theories. Now I am worried that It will get worse if I take CS all the time. Is there a test to measure selenium Catherine? TIA Sharon So the key to avoiding selenium depletion is supplementing with selenium if taking CS on a regular basis. There are very few beneficial things in this world that do not have some drawbacks. The goal would be to utilize the substances whose drawbacks can be easily remedies=d, like this one. Regards, Catherine -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>pharmaceutical grade silver (99.999)
Pat: I wouldn't pay too much attention to this article. It has some good points, but the writers obviously aren't very experienced. They contradict themselves; @ 20PPM with an electrolysis process, any solution with particles sized below 1 micron will be completely clear; a highly particulate colloidal silver @ 20 PPM, even with tiny particles, will not even be close to clear. So, stating that a silver @ 20PPM should be clear to light yellow is not correct. Further, the FDA does not certify silver products under any circumstances. There are no federal regulations concerning colloidal silver production, and there are no USP standards for production either. If the writer meant that it is advantageous to have an FDA-approved lab certify purity of the solution, proving that a silver product is pyrogen-free, etc., then this is certainly great. Best Regards, Jason - Original Message - From: INGRID KROPP-OVERSTREET To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2003 8:57 PM Subject: Re: CS>pharmaceutical grade silver (99.999) http://www.dlois.com/realtruth/HealthStuff/evaluating_colloidal_silver.htm this is where i found it, it's number 2. check it out. .999 is 3/9 pure silver, . is 4/9 pure silver, .9 is 5/9 pure silver. according to Handy and Harmon silver refinery to find .9 pure silver is very hard. 5/9 pure is the highest purity manufactured. they don't have the technology to make 6/9 pure silver yet. but i don't know how long ago they made that website so maybe they do. but i doubt it. it was hard enough to find 5/9. i don't have the link right now for the Handy and Harmon silver refinery website but if you put it in your search engine it should come up with it. i used ask.com also in one of my other messages i put in a link to buy 5/9 pure silver. - Original Message - From: Acmeair Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2003 11:29 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CS>pharmaceutical grade silver (99.999) in the refining of silver bullion, there are apparently two grades of silver bullion, .999 fine, and . fine. according to bob beck, rest his soul, suggested that .999 silver was of adequate quality to make CS pure enough for internal use. i don't know who these people are that are quoting 99.999% pharmaceutical grade silver. are they using .999 fine, or . fine, or do they have something new at .9 fine. if so, i've never been able to find any reference to this degree of refining. what grade of silver bullion are these people using, using the proper refiners grading? - Original Message - From: INGRID KROPP-OVERSTREET To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2003 5:02 PM Subject: CS>pharmaceutical grade silver (99.999) 2. Purity: High quality colloidal silver consists of pure water and 99.999% pharmaceutical grade silver. i found this at that same site I got that excerpt from about argyria. check out the site.
Re: CS>pharmaceutical grade silver (99.999)
you know me out to find and make the best CS ever. I'm ordering the 5/9 pure silver now. I'll let you know how it is. i read about that beck earlier. he's a great guy. the only problem is i don't know how to order his products. that's where i read about his ozonizer. i plan to use that to. cheers to your health, pat - Original Message - From: Acmeair Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2003 12:31 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CS>pharmaceutical grade silver (99.999) i stand corrected. if beck said 3/9 is ok, i think i will stay with that. good huntin.
Re: CS>pharmaceutical grade silver (99.999)
i stand corrected. if beck said 3/9 is ok, i think i will stay with that. good huntin. - Original Message - From: INGRID KROPP-OVERSTREET To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2003 8:57 PM Subject: Re: CS>pharmaceutical grade silver (99.999) http://www.dlois.com/realtruth/HealthStuff/evaluating_colloidal_silver.htm this is where i found it, it's number 2. check it out. .999 is 3/9 pure silver, . is 4/9 pure silver, .9 is 5/9 pure silver. according to Handy and Harmon silver refinery to find .9 pure silver is very hard. 5/9 pure is the highest purity manufactured. they don't have the technology to make 6/9 pure silver yet. but i don't know how long ago they made that website so maybe they do. but i doubt it. it was hard enough to find 5/9. i don't have the link right now for the Handy and Harmon silver refinery website but if you put it in your search engine it should come up with it. i used ask.com also in one of my other messages i put in a link to buy 5/9 pure silver. - Original Message - From: Acmeair Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2003 11:29 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CS>pharmaceutical grade silver (99.999) in the refining of silver bullion, there are apparently two grades of silver bullion, .999 fine, and . fine. according to bob beck, rest his soul, suggested that .999 silver was of adequate quality to make CS pure enough for internal use. i don't know who these people are that are quoting 99.999% pharmaceutical grade silver. are they using .999 fine, or . fine, or do they have something new at .9 fine. if so, i've never been able to find any reference to this degree of refining. what grade of silver bullion are these people using, using the proper refiners grading? - Original Message - From: INGRID KROPP-OVERSTREET To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2003 5:02 PM Subject: CS>pharmaceutical grade silver (99.999) 2. Purity: High quality colloidal silver consists of pure water and 99.999% pharmaceutical grade silver. i found this at that same site I got that excerpt from about argyria. check out the site.
CS>selenium, vitamin E, and CS
i was reading that vitamin E complements selenium and since selenium i guess compliments CS it might be a good combination to start taking together. the only thing I don't know is how much of each. i take 1000 mg of vitamin E, 400 mg of selenium, and 8oz of somewhere between 5-10 ppm of CS.
Re: CS>VitC and CS
On Wed, 9 Apr 2003 20:35:36 -0400, "C Creel" wrote: >per day will cause harm to the stomach. ?>> > > > > Vit C doses can go as high as 12,000 mg a day regularly with it actually > going much higher for some therapeutic applications. Yup. For about 6 months I was taking about 50,000 mg daily without any of the expected side effects. Unfortunately, it also didn't have much of an effect on my sinus problem (which seems to be NOT viral or bacterial). This was before I started making and using CS (which didn't have much effect, either). -- Dean -- from (almost) Des Moines -- KB0ZDF -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Lacto-fermented foods; was Selenium??
Sol, You can make kefir at home without vinegar, and you can also make it from coconut milk, without dairy. Check out this site: http://wildernessfamilynaturals.com/mall/kefir_culture.ASP Jannette > > > > You still eat something, right? Anything that you eat > > can be lacto-fermented, and it will serve as a > > superior probiotic and provide more easily utilizable > > nutrients than initial food source. > > > > Roman > > > > > > -- > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > > Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > > List maintainer: Mike Devour > --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.467 / Virus Database: 266 - Release Date: 4/1/2003
Re: CS>pharmaceutical grade silver (99.999)
http://www.dlois.com/realtruth/HealthStuff/evaluating_colloidal_silver.htm this is where i found it, it's number 2. check it out. .999 is 3/9 pure silver, . is 4/9 pure silver, .9 is 5/9 pure silver. according to Handy and Harmon silver refinery to find .9 pure silver is very hard. 5/9 pure is the highest purity manufactured. they don't have the technology to make 6/9 pure silver yet. but i don't know how long ago they made that website so maybe they do. but i doubt it. it was hard enough to find 5/9. i don't have the link right now for the Handy and Harmon silver refinery website but if you put it in your search engine it should come up with it. i used ask.com also in one of my other messages i put in a link to buy 5/9 pure silver. - Original Message - From: Acmeair Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2003 11:29 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CS>pharmaceutical grade silver (99.999) in the refining of silver bullion, there are apparently two grades of silver bullion, .999 fine, and . fine. according to bob beck, rest his soul, suggested that .999 silver was of adequate quality to make CS pure enough for internal use. i don't know who these people are that are quoting 99.999% pharmaceutical grade silver. are they using .999 fine, or . fine, or do they have something new at .9 fine. if so, i've never been able to find any reference to this degree of refining. what grade of silver bullion are these people using, using the proper refiners grading? - Original Message - From: INGRID KROPP-OVERSTREET To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2003 5:02 PM Subject: CS>pharmaceutical grade silver (99.999) 2. Purity: High quality colloidal silver consists of pure water and 99.999% pharmaceutical grade silver. i found this at that same site I got that excerpt from about argyria. check out the site.
Re: CS>CS resistency
James, HUH? I had no connection with that thread. Is this a rhetorical question? You wish a speculation? Chuck File not found. Should I fake it (Y/N)? On Wed, 09 Apr 2003 19:57:03 -0600, "James-Osborn: Holmes-Junior" wrote: >Hi Chuck, master of the tagline universe, > >Where did this come from? > >"Pseudomonas eventually kills them by forming >>a colony in the lungs. The colony can't be stopped by >>any antibiotic (including CS)." > > >Thanks, > >JOH > > >-Original Message- >From: Dean Miller [mailto:dtmil...@midiowa.net] >Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2003 11:02 PM >To: silver-list@eskimo.com >Subject: Re: CS>CS resistency > > >On Thu, 3 Apr 2003 17:34:46 -0800 (PST), Maja Hristozova > wrote: > >>Pseudomonas eventually kills them by forming >>a colony in the lungs. The colony can't be stopped by >>any antibiotic (including CS). > >Have they tried attacking the Pseudomonas from the inside? That is, using >some kind of blood oxygenator, such as H2O2. That's what Dr W.C. Douglass >suggests. > >-- Dean -- from (almost) Des Moines -- KB0ZDF -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>pharmaceutical grade silver (99.999)
in the refining of silver bullion, there are apparently two grades of silver bullion, .999 fine, and . fine. according to bob beck, rest his soul, suggested that .999 silver was of adequate quality to make CS pure enough for internal use. i don't know who these people are that are quoting 99.999% pharmaceutical grade silver. are they using .999 fine, or . fine, or do they have something new at .9 fine. if so, i've never been able to find any reference to this degree of refining. what grade of silver bullion are these people using, using the proper refiners grading? - Original Message - From: INGRID KROPP-OVERSTREET To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2003 5:02 PM Subject: CS>pharmaceutical grade silver (99.999) 2. Purity: High quality colloidal silver consists of pure water and 99.999% pharmaceutical grade silver. i found this at that same site I got that excerpt from about argyria. check out the site.
CS> ozonized water and CS
can you make CS with water made from an ozonized water? can anyone recommend a good place to make one or instructions on how to make one? thanks pat
CS>question for mariano delise
if i made my cs with 8OZ of water with 4 drops of H2o2 and drink it at once with 10ppm daily. would it be ok? or should i lower the ppm? do i have any thing to worry about? i don't have MS but if it cured your MS what ever i have should be no challenge. I have found with my MS that I had to be aggressive with the CS. I drink 16 oz. 10 ppm per day with 8 drops of H2o2 added to it.
RE: CS>CS resistency
Hi Chuck, master of the tagline universe, Where did this come from? "Pseudomonas eventually kills them by forming >a colony in the lungs. The colony can't be stopped by >any antibiotic (including CS)." Thanks, JOH -Original Message- From: Dean Miller [mailto:dtmil...@midiowa.net] Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2003 11:02 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CS>CS resistency On Thu, 3 Apr 2003 17:34:46 -0800 (PST), Maja Hristozova wrote: >Pseudomonas eventually kills them by forming >a colony in the lungs. The colony can't be stopped by >any antibiotic (including CS). Have they tried attacking the Pseudomonas from the inside? That is, using some kind of blood oxygenator, such as H2O2. That's what Dr W.C. Douglass suggests. -- Dean -- from (almost) Des Moines -- KB0ZDF -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>silver 99.999 info
this is just an excerpt but if you want to read the whole article it's at http://web.ask.com/redir?bpg=http%3a%2f%2fweb.ask.com%2fweb%3fq%3dbuy%2bpharmaceutical%2bgrade%2bsilver%2b99.999%26o%3d0&q=buy+pharmaceutical+grade+silver+99.999&u=http%3a%2f%2ftm.wc.ask.com%2fr%3ft%3dan%26s%3da%26uid%3d0FED6E75DA9D671E3%26sid%3d11504F4B7B43C49E3%26qid%3d69C2B48464139D4396CEB8C6C8956BF2%26io%3d1%26sv%3dza5cb0d89%26ask%3dbuy%2bpharmaceutical%2bgrade%2bsilver%2b99.999%26uip%3dcf5fe31e%26en%3dte%26eo%3d-100%26pt%3dIssue%2b1%26ac%3d24%26qs%3d14%26pg%3d2%26u%3dhttp%3a%2f%2fwww.natures-balance.com%2fNewsletter%2fIssue_1%2fissue_1.html&s=a&bu=http%3a%2f%2fwww.natures-balance.com%2fNewsletter%2fIssue_1%2fissue_1.html another biggy! Colloidal technology has advanced in leaps and bounds since the late 1930s. It is now possible to produce a 'true' electro-colloid of pure silver without using any stabilizers, acids or solvents. The patented SilverloidTM process creates a 'true' colloidal suspension of 99.999%-pure silver in purified deionized water. 'True' Colloidal Silver is completely safe, and mild enough to drop into the eyes and ears of infants suffering from conjunctivitis or middle-ear infections. True colloids of 99.999%-pure silver will not cause Argyria (though all medicinal silver compounds should carry this warning on the label). Most products on the market today are still manufactured from mild silver protein or ionic silver compounds. These are NOT suitable for regular or prolonged use. The optimum concentration (established by the Colloid Research Foundation) is 10-20 ppm (parts per million) with a particle size of 0.005 to 0.015 microns for products intended for therapeutic use. .
CS>pharmaceutical silver FOUND!!!
http://web.ask.com/redir?bpg=http%3a%2f%2fweb.ask.com%2fweb%3fq%3dpharmaceutical%2bgrade%2bsilver%2b99.999%26o%3d0&q=pharmaceutical+grade+silver+99.999&u=http%3a%2f%2ftm.wc.ask.com%2fr%3ft%3dan%26s%3da%26uid%3d0FED6E75DA9D671E3%26sid%3d11504F4B7B43C49E3%26qid%3d8240BF90F8FA6443A09224B0970068A4%26io%3d8%26sv%3dza5cb0db3%26ask%3dpharmaceutical%2bgrade%2bsilver%2b99.999%26uip%3dcf5fe31e%26en%3dte%26eo%3d-100%26pt%3dBrent's%2bColloidal%2bSilver%2bGenerators-mail%2bin%2border%2bform%2bfor%2bcolloidal%26ac%3d9%26qs%3d19%26pg%3d1%26u%3dhttp%3a%2f%2fwww.colloidalsilvergens.com%2fcolloidal_silver_main.htm&s=a&bu=http%3a%2f%2fwww.colloidalsilvergens.com%2fcolloidal_silver_main.htm UMMM, YES I HAD TO DO A LOT OF SEARCHING BUT I FOUND IT.SILVER AT ITS BEST 99.999 CHECK IT OUT.
CS>selenium depletion/pat
ok don't take this for face value. it' just a thought of mine. your body needs selenium. it's a mineral. now if colloidal silver uses selenium to be deposited into body tissue then i would think that more selenium is being used up. this would call for more selenium to be used as a supplement because of what your body needs PLUS the selenium the colloidal silver is using. (since colloidal silver is also a supplement) bacteria infects body tissue that have weak ph levels so i thought that the body would probably direct more of the colloidal silver towards body tissue that is infected and since selenium helps the body deposit the colloidal silver it would make sense that more is being used. i think this should explain it better. don't feel sorry. we're all here to learn or teach. i'm still in the process of learning. as you can tell i get corrected alot. pat === Hi Pat I got lost here... Can you please explain it as for a simple (not a native English) audience... sorry.. I'm just a new subscriber and don't know much... > to me it would make sense that selenium would be > depleted due to the use of CS. Yes... > if with the help of selenium it deposits more CS >into body tissue then that would mean more selenium >is being used in addition to the selenium your body >is already processing. I thought CS is only deposited in the body tissues when it doesn't bond with the selenium, so the CS (kind of) gets stored in the body tissues? > plus since bacteria likes to "set up > shop" in weak ph levels of body tissue then there > would be more of a need for CS to be distributed to > those areas and with the help of selenium your body > can deposit more. So you actually mean that depositing CS in the body tissues is good because it changes the PH and the bacteria don't like those areas? > pat Thanks, Maia
CS>CS cause argyria? guess not
i read this at http://www.dlois.com/realtruth/HealthStuff/Pharmaceutical%20Damage%20Control.htm it has some good information. Q - Will colloidal silver turn me "blue" (a cosmetic condition called argyria)? A - No! There is one well known case of argyria which these people keep displaying as a scare tactic. What they neglect to tell you that the condition WAS NOT caused by colloidal silver! Years ago this same individual (complete with photograph) was shown on an FDA web page, and the description read: "From taking excessive amounts of SILVER NITRATE nose drops, over an extended period of time, as a young girl"! Silver nitrate IS NOT "colloidal silver"! I have never seen where anyone has produced a single "verifiable" case of argyria attributable to "colloidal silver"! Yes, there have been obscure "examples" (manufactured), like the one mentioned above. IF they were real and verifiable, they would be "in your face" every time you mentioned colloidal silver. The person would be somewhat of a celebrity, appearing every time the need arose! Strange that they merely disappear and are not heard of again! Who were they? Who knows? Smoke and mirrors! With the huge number of people using colloidal silver today, IF argyria were indeed a potential problem, you would expect to encounter at least one "blue person" a week! How many have you seen? Finally, IF argyria were a real possibility (remember, it is only a "cosmetic" condition), why don't you see several cases posted on the FDA "NSAERS" (Nutritional Supplements Adverse Event Reporting System). Could it be because filing a false AER is a federal crime?
CS>pharmaceutical grade silver (99.999)
2. Purity: High quality colloidal silver consists of pure water and 99.999% pharmaceutical grade silver. i found this at that same site I got that excerpt from about argyria. check out the site.
Re: CS>VitC and CS
<> Vit C doses can go as high as 12,000 mg a day regularly with it actually going much higher for some therapeutic applications. Because Vit C is water soluble does not mean that what is not absorbed in the first half hour is eliminated. About 15% of the population will experience stomach blaoting or cramps with Vit C. Using an mineral ascorbate with calcium or magnesium will eliminate this problem as will using Ester-C. Most accepted today is using Vit C at higher dose to bowel tolerance. This differs person to person. The very high doses would be used only in acute or some chronic illnesses. Regards, Catherine
Re: CS>VitC and CS
I had read in one of the vitamin books (old one) that 1. the body does not process more than 500 mg of VitC per half hour and 2. that more than 3,000 mg per day will cause harm to the stomach. ?
CS>Selenium depletion??/Pat
Hi Pat I got lost here... Can you please explain it as for a simple (not a native English) audience... sorry.. I'm just a new subscriber and don't know much... > to me it would make sense that selenium would be > depleted due to the use of CS. Yes... > if with the help of selenium it deposits more CS >into body tissue then that would mean more selenium >is being used in addition to the selenium your body >is already processing. I thought CS is only deposited in the body tissues when it doesn't bond with the selenium, so the CS (kind of) gets stored in the body tissues? > plus since bacteria likes to "set up > shop" in weak ph levels of body tissue then there > would be more of a need for CS to be distributed to > those areas and with the help of selenium your body > can deposit more. So you actually mean that depositing CS in the body tissues is good because it changes the PH and the bacteria don't like those areas? > pat Thanks, Maia __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - File online, calculators, forms, and more http://tax.yahoo.com -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Selenium??
Thanks a lot Catherine I guess just for sure we'll increase the selenium intake while taking CS. Cystic Fibrosis patients suffer by default from lack of selenium and they take the supplements on a daily basis. So if CS bonds with selenium we better take more selenium just incase. I belive storing silver in the body tissues is not good... Thanks again, Maia --- C Creel wrote: > Dear Maia, > From www.silvermedicine.org > The body utilizes selenium to help eliminate silver > from the body. Silver bonds with selenium ( see the Roger Altman silver elimination study for an > example of how well the body CAN eliminate silver > http://www.silvermedicine.org/altmanstudy.html ). > When the body is depleted > of selenium, the amount of silver deposited into > tissues is drastically increased. This was conclusively demonstrated by a researcher known as Petering in the 1970's. > > Regards, > Catherine > -- > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion > of colloidal silver. > > Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: > http://silverlist.org > > To post, address your message to: > silver-list@eskimo.com > > Silver-list archive: > http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > > List maintainer: Mike Devour > __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - File online, calculators, forms, and more http://tax.yahoo.com
Re: CS>Selenium??
what are lacto-fermented foods? (Beef soaked in buttermilk?) - Original Message - From: "Roman" To: Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2003 12:46 AM Subject: Re: CS>Selenium?? > sol wrote: > > > > I have intestinal candida, take CS to > > help with it, which it does, and have been taking it daily for about 8 > > months now, and have never gotten thrush. > > > Have you tried consuming large amounts of lacto-fermented foods (plant > and animal based) to improve your intestinal microflora instead of > "chasing" candida with CS? > > Roman > > > -- > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > > Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > > List maintainer: Mike Devour >
Re: CS>Re: Glutathione uptake
Lona, I've seen those advertisements too... Cumin may increase glutathione by 700% from what level? Note in the study that follows, GST was increased an AVERAGE of 78%; it is the form of glutathione increased by several foods including cumin, however GSH and GPx are arguably more important glutathione forms as they are used in much greater quantities in the body. The limiting factor to glutathione production is cystine and cysteine- containing molecules, and also selenium in the case of GPx. Without the precursors present the cells can not make glutathione so these precursors will remain the limiting factor for four forms of glutathione. Not addressing precursor availability would be similar in a way, to increasing liver function potential with bitter herbs or drugs while ignoring hepatic stones that block the bile flow and necessitate the recirculation of toxic waste produced. I found only three peer-reviewed studies in a search on cumin AND glutathione. Here's the most applicable: __ Plant products as protective agents against cancer. Aruna K, Sivaramakrishnan VM. Isotope Division, Cancer Institute, Madras, India. Out of various spices and leafy vegetables screened for their influence on the carcinogen-detoxifying enzyme, glutathione-S-transferase (GST) in Swiss mice, cumin seeds, poppy seeds, asafoetida, turmeric, kandathipili, neem flowers, manathakkali leaves, drumstick leaves, basil leaves and ponnakanni leaves increased GST activity by more than 78% in the stomach, liver and oesophagus, - high enough to be considered as protective agents against carcinogenesis. Glutathione levels were also significantly elevated in the three tissues by these plant products. All of them except neem flowers, significantly suppressed (in vivo) the chromosome aberrations (CA) caused by benzo(a)pyrene in mouse bone marrow cells. Multiple CA and exchanges reflecting the severity of damage within a cell were significantly suppressed by these nine plant products. The results suggest that these nine plant products are likely to suppress carcinogenesis and can act as protective agents against cancer. PMID: 2283166 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE] ___ Duncan Crow > I have read the Cumin increases your levels by 700%. > Lona > -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Foods, drinks, etc. that interact with Colloidal Silver?
On Wed, 09 Apr 2003 12:54:07 -0700 (PDT), jay ice wrote: >what other things shouldn't i mix with colloidal silver. >theres alot of different abbreviations i don't understand can some one help me. Avoid the whole problem and take your dose individually, half hour before and after anything else. Chuck If everything seems to be going well, you have obviously overlooked something . -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS> CS and electrolytes
these are just excerpts but read it and tell me if you think it would be helpful with taking CS. the whole article is at http://sunstoneherbals.com/stabilized_oxygen.htm Stabilized oxygen is the best formulation of liquid "electrolytes" available. Stabilized oxygen was first discovered by Dr. Moises de Guevarra in 1929. Stabilized oxygen is the highest quality, strongest and most stable of all the liquid "electrolytes of oxygen" on the market (electrolytes are substances which dissolve in water and conduct electricity). Our liquid is a concentrate of electrolytes of oxygen that is made available to the body in a molecular form. The oxygen is released upon contact with stomach acid. By providing your bloodstream with molecular oxygen, it is possible to kill anaerobic bacteria and parasites on contact without harming your tissues or friendly aerobic bacteria. Stabilized oxygen is an oxidant similar in effect to hydrogen peroxide, but is more stable, because instead of releasing gas in the stomach, they react with the stomach acid, and release "molecular" oxygen. Even though stabilized oxygen is many times more effective than hydrogen peroxide as an oxidant, there doesn't seem to be any nauseous feelings or unpleasant taste from the stabilized oxygen. When stabilized oxygen is diluted in water, the high alkalinity is rapidly lowered from pH 12-13 to near pH 8.6. This lowering of pH causes separation of chlorite ions (ClO4-) and stabilized oxygen molecules (O2) from the sodium atoms. Tiny amounts of chlorine dioxide are also released. This reaction destroys microbes in the water, which makes stabilized oxygen a good thing to have on hand when visiting foreign countries. When stabilized oxygen is ingested, stabilized oxygen mixes with stomach acid at pH 3-4. Because of the strength of this reaction is even stronger in the stomach, more molecular oxygen, chlorite ion, and chlorine dioxide are created. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>VitC and CS
Been taking megadoses of C since Linus Pauling wrote his book. It was my initiation into vitamin therapy as a matter of fact. Chuck What do people in China call THEIR good plates? On Wed, 09 Apr 2003 15:31:11 -0400, Charles Sutton wrote: >Is there any reason not to take Vitamin C while you are taking CS? -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Foods, drinks, etc. that interact with Colloidal Silver?
what other things shouldn't i mix with colloidal silver. theres alot of different abbreviations i don't understand can some one help me. Marshall Dudley wrote:Mixing citric juices will likely create silver citrate at least from the silver ions. There is at least one research paper that says that metals that do not normally cross the blood brain barrier can do so if they are in the citrate form, thus I personally avoid mixing CS and fruit juices. There may not be a problem, but I believe better safe than sorry. Marshall snip > __ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Tax Center - File online, calculators, forms, and more > http://tax.yahoo.com > > -- > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > > Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > > List maintainer: Mike Devour - Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - File online, calculators, forms, and more
Re: CS>VitC and CS
I had read this before with great interest...however I never found where it says that it would cure anything...in fact it said the opposite?where does it say it will cure something?.Robb - Original Message - From: Charles Sutton To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2003 3:31 PM Subject: CS>VitC and CS Is there any reason not to take Vitamin C while you are taking CS? Following is an excerpt from the Doctor Yourself Newsletter: SARS (Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome) It's just another virus. Maybe it's a mean one, or maybe it's just a new strain of one of hundreds of common cold viruses, whooping it up in a person with a low immune system. But it cannot be worse than, say, polio. Polio can be whipped by megadoses of vitamin C. I think we can all take confidence in that. If vitamin C megadosing for polio and other viral diseases is a new concept to you, please look at http://www.doctoryourself.com/titration.html http://www.doctoryourself.com/ortho_c.html http://www.doctoryourself.com/klenner_table.html http://www.doctoryourself.com/klennerpaper.html and especially at the excellent website of Robert F. Cathcart, M.D. http://www.orthomed.com A "new" opportunistic virus is a big surprise to no one. History is full of them. About 10 million soldiers were killed in World War I, charging machine guns and getting mowed down month after month. There were nearly a million casualties at the Somme and another million at Verdun. A terrible slaughter went on for four years. Yet, in just the two years following the war, over 20 million people died from influenza. That is more than twice as many deaths from the flu in one-half the time it took the machine guns. PNEUMONIA Preventing is obviously easier than treating severe illness. Immediate use of half-hourly gram (1,000 mg) doses of Vitamin C, up to saturation, will usually stop a cold from escalating to pneumonia. But if it has, treat serious illness seriously: in the very young or the very old, pneumonia can kill. Do not hesitate to seek medical attention. Here is a second opinion. Dr. Cathcart advocates treating pneumonia with up to 200,000 milligrams of Vitamin C daily, often intravenously. You and I can simulate a 24 hour IV of Vitamin C by taking it by mouth very, very often. When I had pneumonia, it took 2,000 mg of Vitamin C every six minutes, by the clock, to get me to saturation. My oral daily dose was over 100,000 mg. Fever, cough and other symptoms were reduced in hours; complete recovery took just a few days. Bronchitis clears up even faster. That is performance at least as good as any pharmaceutical will give, and the vitamin is both safer and cheaper. I suggest consulting The Journal of Orthomolecular Medicine for additional support for mega-vitamin therapies. The research is done, the write-ups are out there, and your librarian will help you tap into them easily. More on the Journal at http://www.doctoryourself.com/hoffer_JOM.html . The Journal's own website is http://www.orthomed.org Treating respiratory infections with massive amounts of Vitamin C is not a new idea at all. Frederick R. Klenner, M.D. and William J. McCormick, M.D. used this approach successfully for decades beginning back in the 1940's. You will want to consult their works, which you can quickly find with a site search from the top of the main page at http://www.doctoryourself.com . All who think that, though vitamin C generally has merit, that massive doses are ineffective or somehow harmful will do well to read the original papers for themselves. Clinical evidence confirms the powerful antiviral-antibiotic effect of Vitamin C when used in sufficient quantity. Speaking as a parent, I can confirm that Vitamin C works as well as antibiotics since our children have never needed antibiotics, not even once. That is NOT because we did nothing; we used vitamin C instead. Vitamin C can be used alone or right along with medicines if one so chooses. Prescription drugs are not doing the job. 75,000 Americans die from pneumonia each year (Vital Statistics of the U.S., Department of Health and Human Services, Vol. 2, 1989). That is over 200 deaths a day. As of April 3, 2003, Johns Hopkins University reported that 60 people have died from SARS. In total. Worldwide. http://www.jhunewsletter.com/vnews/display.v/ART/2003/04/04/3e8e038cec7b6 There is no question that aggressive use of Vitamin C would lower that figure a great deal. There is no excuse for excluding it.
Re: CS> CS and termites
these are excerpts from different articles from the internet. we're both right! Untitled Document The intestinal tract of many insects has been shown to harbour a large ... by the gut bacterial flora of the ... community in the termite... From: http://lamar.colostate.edu/~insects/systems/digestion/plenuryrd.html Protozoan Parasites Images of the water-borne parasites Cryptosporidium parvum, Entamoeba histolytica, and Giardia lamblia. From: http://www.cellsalive.com/parasit.htm This slide shows several stained specimens of Trichonympha, one of several symbiotic zooflagellates that live in the intestines of some termites. These mutualistic protozoans have the enzymes necessary to digest cellulose in wood the insects eat. In exchange, the protozoans benefit from a continuous supply of energy-rich cellulose and from the suitable anerobic environment of the host's gut. Interestingly, although Trichonympha has many typical eucaryotic flagella, there are other flagellates inhabiting the termite gut whose "flagella" are actually motile bacteria clinging to the sides of the protozoan. The synchronized movements of some of these bacteria help the protozoan move through the medium; the benefits to the bacteria from this mutualistic relationship are less clear! http://www.bioweb.uwlax.edu/zoolab/ - Original Message - From: Marshall Dudley Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2003 2:56 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CS> CS and termites It is not a parasite, it is the intestinal flora of the termite. It is believed that CS will kill the bacteria, and thus the termite, but I am not aware of any tests run on termites. It has been confirmed that CS will kill honeybees by that route though. Marshall INGRID KROPP-OVERSTREET wrote: > inside of a termite digestive tracts are parasite that convert the > wood into a useful source of energy. with out these parasites the > termite would die of starvation. so if it if it were to eat food with > CS would it kill the parasite? -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>VitC and CS
Is there any reason not to take Vitamin C while you are taking CS? Following is an excerpt from the Doctor Yourself Newsletter: SARS (Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome) It's just another virus. Maybe it's a mean one, or maybe it's just a new strain of one of hundreds of common cold viruses, whooping it up in a person with a low immune system. But it cannot be worse than, say, polio. Polio can be whipped by megadoses of vitamin C. I think we can all take confidence in that. If vitamin C megadosing for polio and other viral diseases is a new concept to you, please look at http://www.doctoryourself.com/titration.html http://www.doctoryourself.com/ortho_c.html http://www.doctoryourself.com/klenner_table.html http://www.doctoryourself.com/klennerpaper.html and especially at the excellent website of Robert F. Cathcart, M.D. http://www.orthomed.com A "new" opportunistic virus is a big surprise to no one. History is full of them. About 10 million soldiers were killed in World War I, charging machine guns and getting mowed down month after month. There were nearly a million casualties at the Somme and another million at Verdun. A terrible slaughter went on for four years. Yet, in just the two years following the war, over 20 million people died from influenza. That is more than twice as many deaths from the flu in one-half the time it took the machine guns. PNEUMONIA Preventing is obviously easier than treating severe illness. Immediate use of half-hourly gram (1,000 mg) doses of Vitamin C, up to saturation, will usually stop a cold from escalating to pneumonia. But if it has, treat serious illness seriously: in the very young or the very old, pneumonia can kill. Do not hesitate to seek medical attention. Here is a second opinion. Dr. Cathcart advocates treating pneumonia with up to 200,000 milligrams of Vitamin C daily, often intravenously. You and I can simulate a 24 hour IV of Vitamin C by taking it by mouth very, very often. When I had pneumonia, it took 2,000 mg of Vitamin C every six minutes, by the clock, to get me to saturation. My oral daily dose was over 100,000 mg. Fever, cough and other symptoms were reduced in hours; complete recovery took just a few days. Bronchitis clears up even faster. That is performance at least as good as any pharmaceutical will give, and the vitamin is both safer and cheaper. I suggest consulting The Journal of Orthomolecular Medicine for additional support for mega-vitamin therapies. The research is done, the write-ups are out there, and your librarian will help you tap into them easily. More on the Journal at http://www.doctoryourself.com/hoffer_JOM.html . The Journal's own website is http://www.orthomed.org Treating respiratory infections with massive amounts of Vitamin C is not a new idea at all. Frederick R. Klenner, M.D. and William J. McCormick, M.D. used this approach successfully for decades beginning back in the 1940's. You will want to consult their works, which you can quickly find with a site search from the top of the main page at http://www.doctoryourself.com . All who think that, though vitamin C generally has merit, that massive doses are ineffective or somehow harmful will do well to read the original papers for themselves. Clinical evidence confirms the powerful antiviral-antibiotic effect of Vitamin C when used in sufficient quantity. Speaking as a parent, I can confirm that Vitamin C works as well as antibiotics since our children have never needed antibiotics, not even once. That is NOT because we did nothing; we used vitamin C instead. Vitamin C can be used alone or right along with medicines if one so chooses. Prescription drugs are not doing the job. 75,000 Americans die from pneumonia each year (Vital Statistics of the U.S., Department of Health and Human Services, Vol. 2, 1989). That is over 200 deaths a day. As of April 3, 2003, Johns Hopkins University reported that 60 people have died from SARS. In total. Worldwide. http://www.jhunewsletter.com/vnews/display.v/ART/2003/04/04/3e8e038cec7b6 There is no question that aggressive use of Vitamin C would lower that figure a great deal. There is no excuse for excluding it.
Re: CS>Generator question & thanks
Tish I started with a 7Vdc power supply and when my scanner went south I now use its power supply 15Vdc 1Am I am very happy with my CS. I do have a hanna PWT metter and use . #12 wire. I make mine it be around 20 on the metter and it is always clear. Just the power supply and the #12 wire. No bells and no shut off, Yep I have went to sleep and got a 60+ reading but I still used the brew as it was still clear and few flakes. Now Ole Bob says I don't know what I have and that is true but he don't know either. I do know it is CS. I've been looking around at home made generators and I am not interested in the battery type. I know the ones you buy are simple under the cases and wondered if anyone has a website or place to look for good instructions to build my own high quality generator that plugs into a wall socket and that will last for years. Thanks. Tish -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour Sincerely Yours, Hank. Very Interesting Sites http://www.babelmagazine.com http://members.myecom.net/hdka/ct/ct.html http://hdka.stormpages.com/indexf.html http://www.babelmagazine.com/wing.html Now MyECom FreeMail gives you what you've been asking for. More storage space (10MB), large attachments that get delivered, WEB, IMAP, POP3 and SMTP access at no extra charge, Calendar, spell checker, mail filtering and auto-responders. http://freemail.myecom.net
Re: CS> OT side note
MALE. What say,guys??? Let 'm stay? Or do we stand Pat? (That a he Pat or a she Pat?) Chuck They told me I was gullible. I believed them. On Tue, 08 Apr 2003 16:39:25 -0400, INGRID KROPP-OVERSTREET wrote: >maybe i should tell you guys this. I'm not sure that it matters but I'm not who I appear to be. this is a borrowed e-mail. i just use it for CS. my name is pat I'm 18. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Selenium depletion??
Marshalee, to me it would make sense that selenium would be depleted due to the use of CS. if with the help of selenium it deposits more CS into body tissue then that would mean more selenium is being used in addition to the selenium your body is already processing. plus since bacteria likes to "set up shop" in weak ph levels of body tissue then there would be more of a need for CS to be distributed to those areas and with the help of selenium your body can deposit more. just a thought. pat <>> Another researcher conclusively demonstrated that an excess amount in selenium can increase the risk of argyria, as silver when combined selenium in the body was shown to deposit more silver into body tissues, when compared with the same amounts of silver used in rats without excess selenium supplementation. <<>>> Also where did you hear that silver depletes selenium? That`s a new one... > > Marshalee -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS> CS and termites
It is not a parasite, it is the intestinal flora of the termite. It is believed that CS will kill the bacteria, and thus the termite, but I am not aware of any tests run on termites. It has been confirmed that CS will kill honeybees by that route though. Marshall INGRID KROPP-OVERSTREET wrote: > inside of a termite digestive tracts are parasite that convert the > wood into a useful source of energy. with out these parasites the > termite would die of starvation. so if it if it were to eat food with > CS would it kill the parasite? -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS> CS and termites
inside of a termite digestive tracts are parasite that convert the wood into a useful source of energy. with out these parasites the termite would die of starvation. so if it if it were to eat food with CS would it kill the parasite?
Re: CS>Generator question & thanks
>Tish wrote: > I've been looking around at home made generators and I am not interested in the battery type. I know the ones you buy are simple under the cases and >wondered if anyone has a website or place to look for good instructions to build my own high quality generator that plugs into a wall socket and that will last for >years. I recently found these instructions at http://www.cat007.com/silver.htm This sounds like it might work as well as the constant current generator, but it doesn't have any fancy convenience features like the auto shutoff. a.. 1. Buy a 6 volt DC transformer for about 5 clams. Better yet, pick up one at a flea market for .50. The current doesn't matter as this method uses less than one ma. b.. 2. Clip the connector off the end of the wire. c.. 3. Get two alligator clips from Radio Shack for a buck. d.. 4. Carefully separate the two wires. Strip the insulation off for about 1 inch. e.. 5. Connect each lead to the clip. f.. 6. You need two electrodes. Don't waste $15.00 for 1/4 oz. pieces of silver wire. Go to a any coin store and buy two Canadian Maple Leafs for about $6.50 ea. Each has 1.2 oz. of . pure silver, enough to make more CS than you will ever use. g.. 7. Buy a gallon of distilled water for about .70. h.. 8. Buy a tiny fish tank bubbler machine for about 8 bucks. They will have the neoprene tubing as well. You will need about two feet. i.. 9. Be sure the coin is squeaky clean. Clamp them to opposite sides of an 8 oz. glass of distilled water. j.. 10. Place the tubing to the bottom of the glass. k.. 11. Fill the glass with distilled water ONLY up to the bottom of the clips. One does not want the metal, from the clips, in contact with the water, only the coins. l.. 12. Plug in the little transformer and oxygenation machine. m.. 13. Run for about five hours. n.. 14. Carefully remove the coins. There will be residue on them and you don't want that in the solution. For even more purity, use the neoprene tubing and siphon the solution into a clean glass/or plastic container. (In these parts a siphon hose is referred to as an "Arkansas credit card".) o.. 15. Keep the CS out of sunlight in an air tight bottle. p.. 16. Clean the coins thoroughly preparing for the next batch. Keith P. Plano, TX -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Re: Glutathione uptake
I have read the Cumin increases your levels by 700%. Lona Explore Washington State on my homepage. http://tahomagirl.com - The future belongs to those who believe in the beauty of their dreams. --- Eleanor Roosevelt -- http://groups.yahoo.com/group/veterans-chat/ -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Selenium??
Well, this is interesting to say the least! There is selenium in my vitamin/minerals, which I take just before bedtime. I guess the silver works in the day, and the selenium at night! Marshalee > Marshalee, > I can't remember where I read about CS depleting selenium, it was an > article or email that went into how CS ions are thought to attach to cells > of bacteria, and the exhanges that take place that allow that to happen. It > was above my understanding, but I remember reading that selenium is > involved.I was hoping someone would recognize it and know where to find > the original info. Doesn't turn up in a search of my saved emails, so it > must have been on a website. > Several people (some I think on this list and some on CS2) have posted that > when they take CS or when they take a certain amount of CS orally, they get > thrush. I don't, but ever since I read the first post about it, I've > wondered what could be happening, or what is different with the person, the > diet, the CS, that could "cause" it. I have intestinal candida, take CS to > help with it, which it does, and have been taking it daily for about 8 > months now, and have never gotten thrush. However, people who say they have > gotten thrush and think it is a result of CS use are absolutely adamant > about the connection. Myself, I believe CS kills candida, so how it would > "cause" a thrush infection is more than I can figure. But I don't think > these people are lying, so something must be going on. What, though? > paula > - Original Message - > From: "mamapug" > > How can you get thrush, when CS kills it?? > > I`ve been on CS for 7 years straight now, and never had thrush or anything > > like it. (I did have it 24 years ago when nursing baby number 4. Before I > > knew about CS.) > > Also where did you hear that silver depletes selenium? That`s a new one... > > Marshalee > > > > > > -- > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > > Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > > List maintainer: Mike Devour > >
RE: CS>OT garden mulching
An occupational hazard for carpet removers is lead poisoning. This is not because the carpet is made from lead but is because of lead in the environment from leaded gasoline etc which gets into and collects in the carpet. This hazard may be decreasing as leaded gasoline is not used so much anymore (in USA). If you are in an area that puts out insecticide to control insects or termites, etc, I bet you will have plenty of it in your carpets! RE: CS>OT garden mulching From: llarabie (view other messages by this author) Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2003 06:32:51 It is best to use organic mater as mulch as there may be some gassing off of petro products from the carpet but I doubt there is any pesticide or led in the carpet. Louise -Original Message- From: Dan Nave [mailto:dn...@mn.nilfisk-advance.com] Sent: April 7, 2003 2:00 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CS>OT garden mulching I wouldn't recommend old carpet for gardening. Carpet tends to collect things in it over the years like lead, pesticides, whatever was on one's feet. Old carpet is often high in toxic waste...
Re: CS>Blood Types (Coffee)COMMENT
Dear Brooks (or should I say Mr. Bradley? ;-)), Thanks for the info. I have recently proved to myself that any arthritic symptoms I have are reduced by drinking large quantities of water as per Dr. F. Batmanghelidj, as you mention. I have not tried drinking any coffee since I increased my water consumption, but I suspect you will be proved right. I find that I am a bit acidic and also suspect the problem involves the acidity of the coffee, not just the caffeine, as I can drink tea without the same effect. Dan Brooks Bradley wrote: Dear Mr. Nave, Some time in the past, we made an interesting determination among a group of volunteers..persons suffering from a similar presentation as you state. Our investigations substantiated, generally, the contentions of Dr. F. Batmanghelidj.to wit: for every 8 ounce cup of coffee, the body requires 32 ounces of plain water. Our volunteer population.almost to a personwere able to resume drinking coffee without the "previously attendant" arthritic complications-whenever they "scrupulously" abided by the aforementioned requirement. General fluids such as fruit juice, milk, etc., do not qualify as hydratorsin this case.ONLY water does. Sincerely, Brooks Bradley. Dan Nave wrote: I had to stop drinking coffee as I found that it caused aching joint pain especially in my hands and lower back across the back esp at the top edge of the hip bone. I had to stay off of it completely for about 3 weeks before I could notice the difference. Then drinking a strong coffee or two caused major pain the next day. Re: CS>Blood Types
Re: CS>AC DC electric
Both Tesla and Westinghouse advocated AC, but when it got down to the real fight it was between Westinghouse Electric, and Commonwealth Edison. Marshall Owen Jones wrote: > You're off by about 100 years - It was Tesla who advocated AC; and the > reason is because AC can be "transformed" from one voltage to another > (using a transformer). When electricity is transported over wires for > long distances the voltage must be high (thousands of volts) to > minimize losses. This would not be possible with DC. AC can easily > be converted to DC using diodes. Owen > > INGRID KROPP-OVERSTREET wrote: > >> >> >> I have a question it is not directly related to CS but I >> will be able to use the info at a later time possibly. >> when Thomas Edison was trying to convince people to >> standardize DC electric. and i think it was ??Ben >> Franklin?? who was going against that and got AC electric >> standardized why didn't they go with DC. from what I read >> DC sounds like a better choice. there no change in the >> current. you know exactly what voltage your getting. was >> it due to bens political influence or is there a real >> reason. >>
Re: CS>to smoke cs or not to
INGRID KROPP-OVERSTREET wrote: > catherine, your absolutely right. but if i die in the process of some > experiment of mine. no biggy. I'll talk to all the great inventors who > are dead like Thomas Edison, Ben Franklin and the greatest of all > Albert Einstein, etc. > > > Einstein was not an inventor, he was a mathmatician and theorist. > > > then find a way to invent myself back. ANYTHING IS POSSIBLE. but if I > discover something great. well then great. > > >
Re: CS>AC DC electric
INGRID KROPP-OVERSTREET wrote: > > > I have a question it is not directly related to CS but I > will be able to use the info at a later time possibly. when > Thomas Edison was trying to convince people to standardize > DC electric. and i think it was ??Ben Franklin?? who was > going against that and got AC electric standardized why > didn't they go with DC. > No it was Westinghouse. > from what I read DC sounds like a better choice. there no > change in the current. you know exactly what voltage your > getting. was it due to bens political influence or is there > a real reason. > No it was due to the inability to transform a low voltage high current to a high voltage low current for transmission with DC. If DC had been used there would almost have to be a power plant in every neighborhood, and nationwide electrification would be impractical if not impossible. Marshall
Re: CS>Ole Bob, cathode plating and Faraday's equation
Ole Bob, I do not have Wplot32.exe; I'll email you off list with my information so you can send it to me. I still think that if limiting current reduces treeing enough to bring the Faraday's equation calculator to within 10% accuracy, even with your missing parameter, then it's worthwhile. I'm not trying for EXACT results, just "close enough". But I'll wait for your additional information; I have a great deal of respect for the work you've done for all of us, and your generosity in distributing your data so freely. I look forward to hearing more from you on this subject, when time permits. Thank you, -herx13 - From: Robert Berger Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2003 08:30:32 Herx, Its not that simple, I do not have time right now but I will get back to you. Do you have th program Wplot32.exe? If not I will send it to you along with some data plots and show you how to navigate within it. Tehn you will see one of the missing parameters that is screwing up the works. And that is energy input. It is going to come down to fixing the cell geometry and some record keeping. Back to yuo later. "Ole Bob" __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - File online, calculators, forms, and more http://tax.yahoo.com -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>AC DC electric
Hi Pat, It wasn't Ben Frankiln it was Nicola Tesla and the reason for going to AC is that it is very easy to transform it to higher voltages for transmission over longer distances at less power loss. Go to the library and get a book on fundamental electricity. "Ole Bob" -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Ole Bob, cathode plating and Faraday's equation
Herx, Its not that simple, I do not have time right now but I will get back to you. Do you have th program Wplot32.exe? If not I will send it to you along with some data plots and show you how to navigate within it. Tehn you will see one of the missing parameters that is screwing up the works. And that is energy input. It is going to come down to fixing the cell geometry and some record keeping. Back to yuo later. "Ole Bob" herx wrote: > Hi Bob, > I've been following your recent work on current levels with great > interest. Some may recall that about a little over a year ago, Ole Bob > tested some samples of LVDC CS I made and compared his ppm results to the > predictions from my Excel spreadsheet's calculations > > http://www.silvermedicine.org/faradaycalculator.html > > The calculator's results were off by about 20% to 45% depending on the > batch, due to heavy plating on my cathode. At the time, you and I > couldn't think of a way to mitigate the plating problem. Unless I'm > mistaken (which my wife says happens frequently), that has now changed. > > >From what I've gathered from your recent posts, my current limit was > largely to blame. I was limiting current to 5.5mA. I use a very large > anode, so current density was well below 1mA, but it appears absolute > current is the key to plating (treeing). Your recent work has led me to > experiment with lower limits, and with a limit of 2.75mA, I'm seeing very > minor cathode plating compared to the higher limit. > > I'd like to run some more samples for testing, with current limited to > values ranging from 1mA to 2.5mA, and see how the calculator fares with > these. My goal has always been accuracy within 10%. If theses tests > succeed, we can offer home brewers a way to estimate the ppm of their CS > for nothing more than the cost of a $5 multimeter. > > What do you say, Ole Bob? > -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>Generator question & thanks
First, thank you to Engrid and Chuck for your response to my question about dosages and the website question. I've been looking around at home made generators and I am not interested in the battery type. I know the ones you buy are simple under the cases and wondered if anyone has a website or place to look for good instructions to build my own high quality generator that plugs into a wall socket and that will last for years. Thanks. Tish -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Selenium??
Jason, Thanks for setting me straight. Sorry if my confusion mislead anyone. sol - Original Message - From: "Jason Eaton" > The original information can be viewed in both the EPA RISK studies and the > World Health Organization's Silver Food Additive Series document. > . Both documents can be found at our silvermedicine.org > website. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Lacto-fermented foods; was Selenium??
Roman, I do think we are miscommunicating. How on earth does one have saurkraut, pickles, etc without vinegar? Apparently I don't know what lacto-fermentation is. What I was referring to is iodine, in sea salt, and seaweed products and seaweed iodine extraction products, which are common, in fact, nearly universal ingredients is diary products such as yogurt, cottage cheese, cream, half and half, and for all I have been able to find out, milk, and goat milk. If you like, I can send you a list of all the ones I have found so far. These ingredients do not necessarily appear on the label. Several mfrs, when contacted told me their products contained at least one of the iodine containing products, unlabelled. Other mfrs were unresponsive, and so I still don't know about those. Virtually all health oriented, alternative type foods contain sea salt, in fact every single label I've read on any vegetarian, vegan, or "health food" or "health drink" such as soy milks, rice milks, etc. has contained either sea salt or one of the seaweed products or both. If the foods you mention can be made at home without iodine ingredients I'd be glad to know how, and to try it. TIA, sol - Original Message - From: "Roman" > What are those ingredients if you don't mind my > asking? I am talking about home made lacto-fermented > foods, so YOU control the ingredients. > > I don't believe that a lot of foods I mention contain > much carbs. In fact, they contain much less carbs > after being fermented sufficiently long than the > original sources. > > I think we're miscommunicating, so let's call things > their names. I am talking about yogurt, kefir, > sauerkraut, kimchi, pickles, etc. Nothing contains > added vinegar, sugar, dyes, artificial preservatives > etc. > > You still eat something, right? Anything that you eat > can be lacto-fermented, and it will serve as a > superior probiotic and provide more easily utilizable > nutrients than initial food source. > > Roman -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Selenium??
Hi Marshalee, To chip in here. I have read that taking selenium may prevent argyria. The email below sounds as though someone has the bull by the wrong end. Regards, Tony mamapug wrote: I thought I read that selenium supplementation is a very good idea when one takes CS as the CS depletes selenium as part of the way it kills bacteria, etc? So if one does not have a sufficient level of selenium the CS might not be as effective? And I have read over and over that virtually all U.S. soils are selenium deficient, so most americans don't get enough in the first place. H, wonder if selenium or lack thereof has to do with why some people experience thrush infections from using CS? paula How can you get thrush, when CS kills it?? I`ve been on CS for 7 years straight now, and never had thrush or anything like it. (I did have it 24 years ago when nursing baby number 4. Before I knew about CS.) Also where did you hear that silver depletes selenium? That`s a new one... Marshalee -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Selenium
<> So the key to avoiding selenium depletion is supplementing with selenium if taking CS on a regular basis. There are very few beneficial things in this world that do not have some drawbacks. The goal would be to utilize the substances whose drawbacks can be easily remedies=d, like this one. Regards, Catherine -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>Selenium
Selenium is essential for the conversion of thyroid hormone T4 to T3. T3 is the one that does most of the work of energy production. So, low selenium can result in hypothyroidism. You don't want that, believe me. It'll ruin your health. Tish -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>AC DC electric
Actually it was George Westinghouse competing with Thomas Edison. Westinghouse and Tesla worked together at first, Tesla became reclusive and Westinghouse carried the ball. Do a read on Westinghouse. Westinghouse was pushing for AC and Edison was pushing for DC. Both systems were in general use for many years until labor saving machinery came along, (electric tools, milkers, trains, electric chair, etc) then it was AC that won out. AC motors are more compact and effcient than DC motors. AC can be stepped up or down for many different uses. AC gives lower loses during long distant transmission. And thats the silver of it. The silver, the whole silver and nothing but the silver. Regards, Tai-Pan Jim wrote: It was Nicola Tesla that got AC standardized. Go to the following sites for more info. ttp://www.apc.net/bturner/tesla.htmh http://www.amasci.com/tesla/tesla.html Tesla was a very brilliant man and history never gave him the credit due him. Jim INGRID KROPP-OVERSTREET wrote: I have a question it is not directly related to CS but I will be able to use the info at a later time possibly. when Thomas Edison was trying to convince people to standardize DC electric. and i think it was ??Ben Franklin?? who was going against that and got AC electric standardized why didn't they go with DC. from what I read DC sounds like a better choice. there no change in the current. you know exactly what voltage your getting. was it due to bens political influence or is there a real reason. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour -- Oozing on the muggy shore of the gulf coast
Re: CS>Lacto-fermented foods; was Selenium??
What are those ingredients if you don't mind my asking? I am talking about home made lacto-fermented foods, so YOU control the ingredients. I don't believe that a lot of foods I mention contain much carbs. In fact, they contain much less carbs after being fermented sufficiently long than the original sources. I think we're miscommunicating, so let's call things their names. I am talking about yogurt, kefir, sauerkraut, kimchi, pickles, etc. Nothing contains added vinegar, sugar, dyes, artificial preservatives etc. You still eat something, right? Anything that you eat can be lacto-fermented, and it will serve as a superior probiotic and provide more easily utilizable nutrients than initial food source. Roman --- sol wrote: > Can't, due to other ingredients which they contain > and that I am allergic > to. I do take a probiotic. And a lot of the foods I > believe you mention > simply contain too much carbohydrate for me as well. > paula > - Original Message - > From: "Roman" > > > > > > Have you tried consuming large amounts of > lacto-fermented foods (plant > > and animal based) to improve your intestinal > microflora instead of > > "chasing" candida with CS? > __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - File online, calculators, forms, and more http://tax.yahoo.com -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>AC DC electric
It was Nicola Tesla that got AC standardized. Go to the following sites for more info. ttp://www.apc.net/bturner/tesla.htmh http://www.amasci.com/tesla/tesla.html Tesla was a very brilliant man and history never gave him the credit due him. Jim INGRID KROPP-OVERSTREET wrote: I have a question it is not directly related to CS but I will be able to use the info at a later time possibly. when Thomas Edison was trying to convince people to standardize DC electric. and i think it was ??Ben Franklin?? who was going against that and got AC electric standardized why didn't they go with DC. from what I read DC sounds like a better choice. there no change in the current. you know exactly what voltage your getting. was it due to bens political influence or is there a real reason. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
