CSRe: silver-digest Digest V2007 #294
Dear Ruth, You said: The surgeon I am working with says the same thing. He very much does not want to do the surgery except as a last resort . I am not sure I can convince him about using alternative things, though. When I mentioned Bentonite Clay, for instance, with regard to increasing fiber, ( withpsyllium), he said he didn't know anything about that. ** You don't have to convince him of anything. It is you who would take it, not he. You don't need his permission. It's YOUR body. He has yet to fix it for you. As I've been following this thread I've had a number of thoughts. I wondered how much you walk each day, what you eat in a typical week, and how much water you drink. You said: He is going out of his way with these twice weekly phone consultations. I hesitate about things like homozon, I not only hae to deal with my colon, but also with this quite severe burning upper center ribcage burning which is almost harder to put up with than the bowel problem. All of the doctors I have worked with since the surgery thing was arrived at after the transit time test and the Bowel X-ray series have said that the surgery would not solve all my problems, but would make the upper thing easier to manage. I get reall swamped with all the different suggestions for what to do alternatively. I am always concerned about what a change will do to me. The chiropractor I go to told me that I am the only patient he has ever treated that did not respong positively to using Bentonite Clay and psyllium. He has been in business in this area for many years.. ** I know others who did not respond to bentonite clay. Usually, it's people for whom the problem begins prior to the colon. LAPs and TAPs are abbreviations for lactic acid-producing and toxic agents- producing microbes in the bowel. LAPs preserve the normal bowel ecosystem, TAPs disrupt it. LAPs normalize bowel transit time. LAPS -- Bifidobacterium, Lactobacillus TAPS -- Proteus, Pseudomonas, Salmonella, Escherichia, Bacteroides, Clostridium, Peptococci, Peptostreptococcus, Streptococcus, Staphylococcus LAPs play a pivotal role in digestion. Lactose intolerance is a very common clinical problem. It is often not fully appreciated that a major portion of lactose ingested in dairy products is actually broken down to simpler sugars by lactase enzymes produced by lactic acid producers. Lactic acid and lactase producers also play important roles in protein digestion. This is one of the primary reasons protein intolerance is so common among individuals with bowel dysfunction. Repopulation of the gut with microflora that have been destroyed by indiscriminate use of antibiotics or crowded out by the unrestrained proliferation of yeast and bacterial organisms helps the bowels to work properly again. Bifidobacterium and Lactobacillus (probiotics) are crucial to this effort as are B vitamins, especially B12, biotin, and pantetheine (a more potent form of pantothenic acid). Are your hands often cold? This symptom gives some clues as to where to look for the bowel problems. Cold hands and slow bowel transit time is caused by one of the following -- oxidatively-damaged thyroid enzymes (underactive thyroid gland), oxidatively-damaged autonomic nerve cells and fibers (dysautonomia) or an oxidatively-overdriven adrenalin gland. Another thing to consider is that chronic anger, hostility, conflict, and a sense of being a victim — both slow down the bowel transit time and significantly reduce perfusion in different parts of the alimentary tract. These emotions adversely affect the adrenalin gland. This may or may not be factor for you. You may or may not find some of this helpful. I just thought I'd throw it out here. Regards, Catherine -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSDigest Subject Line
Morning Dan and everyone that does digest, Is it hard, impossible, or too much trouble to change the subject on the digest messages. Wayne -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSThe Poor Colon
Morning Ruth and the list, I have read virtually all the messages on the digestion system, primarily the colon. Here are some of my far out and radical ideas. Some may sound cruel, but this is the way I see it. The poor colon catches everything one throws at it over all the years. In addition, it suffers from all the mistakes and short comings of the upper digestion system and the owner. This includes much bogus food, improper food combining, worthless foods, low fiber foods, glue based food, breads that should not be fed to a dog, maybe not even to a pig. It virtually never gets enough fiber based on the amount stated that we need everyday. Average fiber intake is about 1/3 the amount needed. Often it is listed as 20 to 40 grams. Of course this would be about two pounds or some fiber foods. Maybe even 2.5 pounds. Shortcomings made in the mouth and digestion problems in the stomach are all sent to the poor colon, which must suffer the consequences. In older people, most have had an HCL deficiency for many years. These same people have had virtually every kind of digestion problem known to man. The colon catches hell. Then we wonder why it gets many problems. The cause is virtually Handwriting on the wall and etched in stone. Anyone that thinks any of these single treatments will solve the problems of years of abuse must go back to the drawing board. It is not going to happen. In my field, we have a term, Beyond Economical Repair. I think the medical field needs the same term, or one more descriptive. One short real life story, ... I had an aunt that lived to near 90 years. She had the worse diet in the world. Poor food, drank cokes all the time, and knew nothing about nutrition. One thing. she took her HCL religiously. It was prescribed in the 40's and 50's. Of course I was only a teenager but my memory has been good over the years. Knowing the few facts, and limited knowledge, I can only deduct that the HCL helped her overcome and live to an old age. Most people over 40 fail to make enough HCL. In the group that are sick enough to go to a doctor for any reason, 90 % of these fail to make enough HCL. Blame the medical profession where they disserve it. As I read all the different ailments and treatment for the digestion system, I come to only one conclusion. The medical profession is a huge fraud and a bunch of thieves. Many of my friends over 50 have these stupid colon scopes done regularly. They don't know how to spell digestion system and I don't think their doctors do either. So, everyone needs to get back to the basics, and not 3, 5, or 25 years after a problem shows up. Recently, I had an audiologist charge my insurance $ 775.00 of failed work. He tried to program my speech processor 3 times and all were a total failure. I will call them and try to get the charge cancelled. Maybe I can, or maybe not. There are 1000 more fine points and facts, but I think most of you know them. Again, the poor colon does not have a chance to function right. The complete digestion system is designed to function 24 hours per day. It should always have food high in fiber to work with. Plenty of HCL and enzymes are required for the upper system to do the job before the food gets to the colon. Heck, recently I ate some raw fern leaves. I was amazed how good they tasted. I would have eaten more but they my contain chemical that are not needed. I eat raw okra, raw field peas, peppers and squash, and of course tomatoes. I also eat wild huckleberries, wild cherries, and wild blackberries. The blueberries are not so wild. Soon, many cantaloupes and watermelons. The colon can stand this kind of work. That is what it was designed to do. I welcome any comments. If you think I am crazy, tell me so. Wayne === -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSThe Poor Colon
What is HCL please? And I agree about the medical profession on the whole; a bit like vets too. Some of course, are just misguided. I see that in the UK they are now persuading people to have blood tests to see the cholesterol content. If this is above 5 they will then put them all on statins! Mass murder, in my opinion. Dee -- The calender of the Theocracy of Muntab counts down, not up. No-one knows why, but it might not be a good idea to hang around and find out. -- (Terry Pratchett, Wyrd Sisters) ---Original Message--- From: CWFugitt Date: 25/06/2007 10:20:26 To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSThe Poor Colon Morning Ruth and the list, Most people over 40 fail to make enough HCL. In the group that are sick Enough to go to a doctor for any reason, 90 % of these fail to make enough HCL. Blame the medical profession where they disserve it. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSLump in hand disappears
I have some of this which I bought at the same time as the liquid. Maybe I will give it a go with Murphy's lump. Dee -- The calender of the Theocracy of Muntab counts down, not up. No-one knows why, but it might not be a good idea to hang around and find out. -- (Terry Pratchett, Wyrd Sisters) ---Original Message--- From: craehow...@juno.com Date: 25/06/2007 04:30:57 To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSLump in hand disappears Thought someone might find this useful. Last week I was at the animal feed store to get a bottle of DMSO and found they had a new product DMSO Gel. On the back of the jar it says lab tested solvent. Well I've had this hard lump at the base of the first two fingers of my right hand. I asked the VA doctor what they thought it was... She said it was calcium deposit and they could operate but it would come back. Last week I saw my doctor had the Air Force Academy hospital and he said it was a jelly filled something. Again said they could operate if it became to painful. I had no really pain just wanted to know what it was. On Friday I rubbed about half teaspon into the hand and concentrated on the lump I did the same thing two more time on different days. During breakfast with a friend I went to rub the lump (out of habit) and the lump is gone There is nothing there. Now that is what I call good medicine. Does anyone have lumps Give it a try I love to be able to see this repeated. This jar cost me $6.99 and weights 4 1/4 oz. It says distributed by FWI, Tulsa Ok 74116 Hope this helps someone. Connie -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CShomozon
Hi Gary, thanks for that info. I always thought that oxygen was a bad thing I have asked this on the list before, but no answers. I understood that oxygen caused degeneration, which is why we take 'anti' oxidants. Any thoughts on this? Dee -- The calender of the Theocracy of Muntab counts down, not up. No-one knows why, but it might not be a good idea to hang around and find out. -- (Terry Pratchett, Wyrd Sisters) ---Original Message--- From: garyc Date: 25/06/2007 03:35:12 To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CShomozon Hi, my name is Gary Courtney..I've used homozon on and off for some time.. it will work for any body...its loaded with high energy oxygen..ozone...it will liquify all encrusted hard fecal matter,usually within afew weeks... If you quit using white bread glue that will help...you will need to stay close to the stool and don't let any toots or you'll darken your drawers...the extra oxygen will help the good bacteria to grow and if you keep taking it, all that good high energy oxygen will be absorbed from your colon and into your organs to help clean them up too...I've heard of people getting rid of cancer and other degenerative problems by elevating the o2..any way hope this helps someonegaryc.the place I get the homozon is www excellentthings.net and another one I've used is oxy-powder and that's here www.ghchealth.com/oxy-powder.php -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSThe Poor Colon
Hi Wayne, group, I second completely. This is also true for many other diseases. For many years we are trying to deteriorate our health. Then we want to recover by taking pills. BTW I read somewhere about an easy way to check whether we make enough HCL. Take 1/4 teaspoon of sodium bicarbonate dissolved in (half) a glass of water. If you start burping within 5 minutes you make some HCL, if not you don't. Wayne, will you please elaborate on your diet and what errors did you made trying raw vegetables. Simeon - SCENA - Единственото БЕЗПЛАТНО списание за мобилни комуникации и технологии. http://www.bgscena.com/ -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSDigest Subject Line
Wayne, I agree with you, but I was replying to a specific message that already had a subject, bogus though it may be. I figured if I changed it, it might not be recognized as being in the thread... I probably should have changed the subject anyway... Dan -Original Message- From: CWFugitt [mailto:c_wa...@earthlink.net] Sent: Monday, June 25, 2007 3:34 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSDigest Subject Line Morning Dan and everyone that does digest, Is it hard, impossible, or too much trouble to change the subject on the digest messages. Wayne -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSCrazy
Wayne, I think you are crazy, but in a relatively sane fashion. Dan -Original Message- From: CWFugitt [mailto:c_wa...@earthlink.net] Sent: Monday, June 25, 2007 4:18 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSThe Poor Colon Morning Ruth and the list, I have read virtually all the messages on the digestion system, primarily the colon. Here are some of my far out and radical ideas. Some may sound cruel, but this is the way I see it. The poor colon catches everything one throws at it over all the years. In addition, it suffers from all the mistakes and short comings of the upper digestion system and the owner. This includes much bogus food, improper food combining, worthless foods, low fiber foods, glue based food, breads that should not be fed to a dog, maybe not even to a pig. It virtually never gets enough fiber based on the amount stated that we need everyday. Average fiber intake is about 1/3 the amount needed. Often it is listed as 20 to 40 grams. Of course this would be about two pounds or some fiber foods. Maybe even 2.5 pounds. Shortcomings made in the mouth and digestion problems in the stomach are all sent to the poor colon, which must suffer the consequences. In older people, most have had an HCL deficiency for many years. These same people have had virtually every kind of digestion problem known to man. The colon catches hell. Then we wonder why it gets many problems. The cause is virtually Handwriting on the wall and etched in stone. Anyone that thinks any of these single treatments will solve the problems of years of abuse must go back to the drawing board. It is not going to happen. In my field, we have a term, Beyond Economical Repair. I think the medical field needs the same term, or one more descriptive. One short real life story, ... I had an aunt that lived to near 90 years. She had the worse diet in the world. Poor food, drank cokes all the time, and knew nothing about nutrition. One thing. she took her HCL religiously. It was prescribed in the 40's and 50's. Of course I was only a teenager but my memory has been good over the years. Knowing the few facts, and limited knowledge, I can only deduct that the HCL helped her overcome and live to an old age. Most people over 40 fail to make enough HCL. In the group that are sick enough to go to a doctor for any reason, 90 % of these fail to make enough HCL. Blame the medical profession where they disserve it. As I read all the different ailments and treatment for the digestion system, I come to only one conclusion. The medical profession is a huge fraud and a bunch of thieves. Many of my friends over 50 have these stupid colon scopes done regularly. They don't know how to spell digestion system and I don't think their doctors do either. So, everyone needs to get back to the basics, and not 3, 5, or 25 years after a problem shows up. Recently, I had an audiologist charge my insurance $ 775.00 of failed work. He tried to program my speech processor 3 times and all were a total failure. I will call them and try to get the charge cancelled. Maybe I can, or maybe not. There are 1000 more fine points and facts, but I think most of you know them. Again, the poor colon does not have a chance to function right. The complete digestion system is designed to function 24 hours per day. It should always have food high in fiber to work with. Plenty of HCL and enzymes are required for the upper system to do the job before the food gets to the colon. Heck, recently I ate some raw fern leaves. I was amazed how good they tasted. I would have eaten more but they my contain chemical that are not needed. I eat raw okra, raw field peas, peppers and squash, and of course tomatoes. I also eat wild huckleberries, wild cherries, and wild blackberries. The blueberries are not so wild. Soon, many cantaloupes and watermelons. The colon can stand this kind of work. That is what it was designed to do. I welcome any comments. If you think I am crazy, tell me so. Wayne === -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSThe Poor Colon
Hi, All, Wouldn't this depend somewhat on the time of day you do the testing? And whether before a meal of after, etc.? Ruth From Ruth Strackbein From: muk...@mail.bg Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSThe Poor Colon Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2007 14:01:21 +0300 Hi Wayne, group, I second completely. This is also true for many other diseases. For many years we are trying to deteriorate our health. Then we want to recover by taking pills. BTW I read somewhere about an easy way to check whether we make enough HCL. Take 1/4 teaspoon of sodium bicarbonate dissolved in (half) a glass of water. If you start burping within 5 minutes you make some HCL, if not you don't. Wayne, will you please elaborate on your diet and what errors did you made trying raw vegetables. Simeon - SCENA - Åäèíñòâåíîòî ÁÅÇÏËÀÒÍÎ ñïèñàíèå çà ìîáèëíè êîìóíèêàöèè è òåõíîëîãèè. http://www.bgscena.com/ -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com _ Picture this share your photos and you could win big! http://www.GETREALPhotoContest.com?ocid=TXT_TAGHMloc=us
RE: CSDigest Subject Line
Thanks you Dan, At 10:46 AM 6/25/2007, you wrote: I agree with you, but I was replying to a specific message that already had a subject, bogus though it may be. What a good answer ! I guess I will have to agree. Have a good day. Wayne -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSThe Poor Colon
Wayne, I know a lot of people who are converting to a raw diet and are also eating wild foods like the fern, etc. They eat a lot of nuts to keep weight on and do weights to maintain muscle mass. They claim to have increased energy and health. Do you also eat animal protein? Thanks, Jess -Original Message- From: CWFugitt [mailto:c_wa...@earthlink.net] Sent: Monday, June 25, 2007 4:18 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSThe Poor Colon Morning Ruth and the list, I have read virtually all the messages on the digestion system, primarily the colon. Here are some of my far out and radical ideas. Some may sound cruel, but this is the way I see it. The poor colon catches everything one throws at it over all the years. In addition, it suffers from all the mistakes and short comings of the upper digestion system and the owner. This includes much bogus food, improper food combining, worthless foods, low fiber foods, glue based food, breads that should not be fed to a dog, maybe not even to a pig. It virtually never gets enough fiber based on the amount stated that we need everyday. Average fiber intake is about 1/3 the amount needed. Often it is listed as 20 to 40 grams. Of course this would be about two pounds or some fiber foods. Maybe even 2.5 pounds. Shortcomings made in the mouth and digestion problems in the stomach are all sent to the poor colon, which must suffer the consequences. In older people, most have had an HCL deficiency for many years. These same people have had virtually every kind of digestion problem known to man. The colon catches hell. Then we wonder why it gets many problems. The cause is virtually Handwriting on the wall and etched in stone. Anyone that thinks any of these single treatments will solve the problems of years of abuse must go back to the drawing board. It is not going to happen. In my field, we have a term, Beyond Economical Repair. I think the medical field needs the same term, or one more descriptive. One short real life story, ... I had an aunt that lived to near 90 years. She had the worse diet in the world. Poor food, drank cokes all the time, and knew nothing about nutrition. One thing. she took her HCL religiously. It was prescribed in the 40's and 50's. Of course I was only a teenager but my memory has been good over the years. Knowing the few facts, and limited knowledge, I can only deduct that the HCL helped her overcome and live to an old age. Most people over 40 fail to make enough HCL. In the group that are sick enough to go to a doctor for any reason, 90 % of these fail to make enough HCL. Blame the medical profession where they disserve it. As I read all the different ailments and treatment for the digestion system, I come to only one conclusion. The medical profession is a huge fraud and a bunch of thieves. Many of my friends over 50 have these stupid colon scopes done regularly. They don't know how to spell digestion system and I don't think their doctors do either. So, everyone needs to get back to the basics, and not 3, 5, or 25 years after a problem shows up. Recently, I had an audiologist charge my insurance $ 775.00 of failed work. He tried to program my speech processor 3 times and all were a total failure. I will call them and try to get the charge cancelled. Maybe I can, or maybe not. There are 1000 more fine points and facts, but I think most of you know them. Again, the poor colon does not have a chance to function right. The complete digestion system is designed to function 24 hours per day. It should always have food high in fiber to work with. Plenty of HCL and enzymes are required for the upper system to do the job before the food gets to the colon. Heck, recently I ate some raw fern leaves. I was amazed how good they tasted. I would have eaten more but they my contain chemical that are not needed. I eat raw okra, raw field peas, peppers and squash, and of course tomatoes. I also eat wild huckleberries, wild cherries, and wild blackberries. The blueberries are not so wild. Soon, many cantaloupes and watermelons. The colon can stand this kind of work. That is what it was designed to do. I welcome any comments. If you think I am crazy, tell me so. Wayne === -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSThe Poor Colon, Dogs, Dog Herb
Morning Dee, At 05:34 AM 6/25/2007, you wrote: What is HCL please? Hydrochloric Acid. I should have spelled it out at least once. I understand dogs make it 6 times as strong as humans. I have seen my dog lay around chewing on a dead rat that smelled very bad, while the bowl was full of dog food. That must be telling us a lot. We can learn a lot from dogs. My dog eats one kind of weed leaves. She will strip the plant of leaves, and has selected this same weed year after year. I have a picture of the weed on my website. Sent the picture to Texas A and M and they could not identify it. http://www.fugitt.com/files/dog_herb.JPG These will grow 8 to 10 feet tall. This one got under one of my drip lines. Maybe someone will recognize it. Wayne -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSRe: Digestion System Problems
Hi, Leslie, The surgeon I am working with says the same thing. He very much does not want to do the surgery except as a last resort . I am not sure I can convince him about using alternative things, though. When I mentioned Bentonite Clay, for instance, with regard to increasing fiber, ( withpsyllium), he said he didn't know anything about that. Bentonite by itself is a very powerful cleanser, but in no way can it be considered 'fiber'. I agree with Gail - be very careful with anything that increases bulk, which both fiber products and bentonite clay will do - although again, the clay is not fiber. I hesitate about things like homozon, I would very strongly urge you to reconsider with respect to the homozon - I really cannot imagine it causing you any distress at all, and I believe it would provide much relief. I not only hae to deal with my colon, but also with this quite severe burning upper center ribcage burning which is almost harder to put up with than the bowel problem. Would you describe this as 'heartburn', or 'indigestion'? If so, one very simple thing that will usually solve this kind of problem is, believe it or not, raw apple cider vinegar - say, a teaspoon or so in an 8 oz glass of water. Most people don't know that heartburn is not a problem of too *much* acid, it is a problem of not *enough* - demonstrated by the fact that adding raw apple cider vinegar will cure the problem (it is good for many other things as well). Just be sure it is raw and organic (I like Braggs)... All my best to you... Charles -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSThe Poor Colon
Hi, Wayne, Am glad you have read all the messages, including my too numerous ones. Should have combined them all and addressed to All. About fiber: I am scared to try all raw foods . Romaine lettuce once or twice a day is the only vegetable I eat raw. Do eat bananas and cantalope. I know bananas are supposed to be constipating, but most fruits seem to burn in my upper right ribcage trouble spot, and I need to gain weight. Eliminating bananas would take out an important source of calories, not to mention fiber. I doubt if they are high fiber, but they do have some. Otherwise , I eat only veggies, lightly cooked in the double boiler to avoid bringing them to a boil. This is for veggies already cooked but need to be heated. (maybe not!) . As you already know, Wayne the kinds of veggies I eat is rather limited. Right now I am passing quite a few stools a day. I really think some of these are part of the same stool, but just break off too soon. There is no urge, just a feeling of something being there. The Hydrochloric Acid thing is certainly interesting. Will have to try the test suggested by someone else. Ruth From Ruth Strackbein From: CWFugitt c_wa...@earthlink.net Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSThe Poor Colon Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2007 04:18:04 -0500 Morning Ruth and the list, I have read virtually all the messages on the digestion system, primarily the colon. Here are some of my far out and radical ideas. Some may sound cruel, but this is the way I see it. The poor colon catches everything one throws at it over all the years. In addition, it suffers from all the mistakes and short comings of the upper digestion system and the owner. This includes much bogus food, improper food combining, worthless foods, low fiber foods, glue based food, breads that should not be fed to a dog, maybe not even to a pig. It virtually never gets enough fiber based on the amount stated that we need everyday. Average fiber intake is about 1/3 the amount needed. Often it is listed as 20 to 40 grams. Of course this would be about two pounds or some fiber foods. Maybe even 2.5 pounds. Shortcomings made in the mouth and digestion problems in the stomach are all sent to the poor colon, which must suffer the consequences. In older people, most have had an HCL deficiency for many years. These same people have had virtually every kind of digestion problem known to man. The colon catches hell. Then we wonder why it gets many problems. The cause is virtually Handwriting on the wall and etched in stone. Anyone that thinks any of these single treatments will solve the problems of years of abuse must go back to the drawing board. It is not going to happen. In my field, we have a term, Beyond Economical Repair. I think the medical field needs the same term, or one more descriptive. One short real life story, ... I had an aunt that lived to near 90 years. She had the worse diet in the world. Poor food, drank cokes all the time, and knew nothing about nutrition. One thing. she took her HCL religiously. It was prescribed in the 40's and 50's. Of course I was only a teenager but my memory has been good over the years. Knowing the few facts, and limited knowledge, I can only deduct that the HCL helped her overcome and live to an old age. Most people over 40 fail to make enough HCL. In the group that are sick enough to go to a doctor for any reason, 90 % of these fail to make enough HCL. Blame the medical profession where they disserve it. As I read all the different ailments and treatment for the digestion system, I come to only one conclusion. The medical profession is a huge fraud and a bunch of thieves. Many of my friends over 50 have these stupid colon scopes done regularly. They don't know how to spell digestion system and I don't think their doctors do either. So, everyone needs to get back to the basics, and not 3, 5, or 25 years after a problem shows up. Recently, I had an audiologist charge my insurance $ 775.00 of failed work. He tried to program my speech processor 3 times and all were a total failure. I will call them and try to get the charge cancelled. Maybe I can, or maybe not. There are 1000 more fine points and facts, but I think most of you know them. Again, the poor colon does not have a chance to function right. The complete digestion system is designed to function 24 hours per day. It should always have food high in fiber to work with. Plenty of HCL and enzymes are required for the upper system to do the job before the food gets to the colon. Heck, recently I ate some raw fern leaves. I was amazed how good they tasted. I would have eaten more but they my contain chemical that are not needed. I eat raw okra, raw field peas, peppers and squash, and of course tomatoes. I also eat wild huckleberries, wild cherries, and wild blackberries. The
CSRe: Colon-Digestive Problems
Hi, Charles. The antigas med I spoke of is the drugstore brand of colace, consists of simethicone. It is available OTC and is less expensive than the name brands. IF I don't take it, the gas piles up in there and seems to stop everything. I sometimes take an enema and the first return will frequently be preceded by a huge passage of gas and water. I don't pretend to know exactly what is going on with you, but gas is *generally* the result of fermentation - which is generally the result of not enough digestive enzymes and/or bile (to digest fats) and or HCL (hydrochloric acid) to digest animal proteins. Have you ever tried a quality HCL and/or Bile digestive aid/supplement? My thoughts are with you... -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSDigest Subject Line
Hi , again, Wayne , Any suggestions about how to change the subject line? Maybe to fiber or Hydrochloric Acid? Should this perhaps be on SO. It is not specifically about CS. I do use CS when I feel a cold coming on. And I assume that many of the other responders to this thread may also use CS, but it's not primarily about CS. By the way, feel free to call as per my message of several days ago. Ruth From Ruth Strackbein From: CWFugitt c_wa...@earthlink.net Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSDigest Subject Line Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2007 03:33:39 -0500 Morning Dan and everyone that does digest, Is it hard, impossible, or too much trouble to change the subject on the digest messages. Wayne -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com _ Hotmail to go? Get your Hotmail, news, sports and much more! http://mobile.msn.com
CSRe: Colon-Digestive Problems
Hi., Gail, I think I have been confusing homozon with Fiberzon, the cleanse my kids have been trying to get me to go for. I wasn't aware that Homozon involves ozone. I guess I am still a little afraid . For one thing, I do not tolerate citrus fruits at all, due to the pain under my upper ribcage. You do not need to take the lemon juice (I prefer the organic, raw apple cider vinegar, which works just as well) in order to get the laxative benefits of the homozon, due to its very high magnesium content. Also, you only need to take a very little - even a few drops would be enough to release the ozone. Just make sure you take it on an empty stomach. I know that the raw apple cider vinegar may be scary, but it truly has worked miracles for many people with very big digestive problems, so I think it is worth a try, in spite of the fact that you said you react so badly to citrus fruits. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSRe: Digestion System Problems
Hi, Charles, I have tried apple cider vinegar in several varieties. It increases the burning under my upper right ribcage in the center. I do have a hiatal hernia and with the upper scopes I have had the doctor says there is slight inflammation there, but not enough to necessarily warrant using antacids, leaves that up to me. Prilosec does not help consistently and I suspect that even when I get relief for a couple of hours, burning comes back way before it should. I use the prescription type of Prilosec . I don't use it every day, since I doubt its efficacy. However, my medical Dr. says if I took it regularly as soon as pain begins it would work better. I do not want to use it though. Ruth From Ruth Strackbein From: Charles Marcus tansta...@libertytrek.org Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSRe: Digestion System Problems Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2007 12:09:04 -0400 Hi, Leslie, The surgeon I am working with says the same thing. He very much does not want to do the surgery except as a last resort . I am not sure I can convince him about using alternative things, though. When I mentioned Bentonite Clay, for instance, with regard to increasing fiber, ( withpsyllium), he said he didn't know anything about that. Bentonite by itself is a very powerful cleanser, but in no way can it be considered 'fiber'. I agree with Gail - be very careful with anything that increases bulk, which both fiber products and bentonite clay will do - although again, the clay is not fiber. I hesitate about things like homozon, I would very strongly urge you to reconsider with respect to the homozon - I really cannot imagine it causing you any distress at all, and I believe it would provide much relief. I not only hae to deal with my colon, but also with this quite severe burning upper center ribcage burning which is almost harder to put up with than the bowel problem. Would you describe this as 'heartburn', or 'indigestion'? If so, one very simple thing that will usually solve this kind of problem is, believe it or not, raw apple cider vinegar - say, a teaspoon or so in an 8 oz glass of water. Most people don't know that heartburn is not a problem of too *much* acid, it is a problem of not *enough* - demonstrated by the fact that adding raw apple cider vinegar will cure the problem (it is good for many other things as well). Just be sure it is raw and organic (I like Braggs)... All my best to you... Charles -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com _ Like puzzles? Play free games earn great prizes. Play Clink now. http://club.live.com/clink.aspx?icid=clink_hotmailtextlink2
CSValley Fever
Hi...I've had a call from a dog owner in CA looking for help with a 12 yr old mix that contracted Valley Fever. I had never heard of it. It is an airborne systemic fungal disease from desert spores that wreaks havoc on the dog. The person is seeing a homeopathic health professional. I am not taking on responsibility for this but I can offer what I would do in addition. I am suggesting CS drinking water and some medicinal grade essential oils that are antimicrobial and one for tumor reduction (two tumors in the brain). The dog still has quality of life he just wants to increase the quality and whatever else happens great. Questions: 10 ppm drinking water? Does anyone not suggested straight drinking water? Do you know of any contraindications with the CS? Do you have any other suggestions? Much appreciated. ~Norine Norine Twaddell CDBC, CPDT Ringwood, NJ / NYC Metro area www.dogventures.com
Re: CSThe Poor Colon
I go to your website when I want something interesting that sounds right and works. It's not us that're crazy . . . . . R I welcome any comments. If you think I am crazy, tell me so. Wayne -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSRe: Colon-Digestive Problems
On 6/25/07, Charles Marcus tansta...@libertytrek.org wrote: Have you ever tried a quality HCL and/or Bile digestive aid/supplement? Where would you get an HCL supplement. I'm in thr UK and not sure what to look for. Thanks Kirsteen -- I do note with interest that old women in my books become young women on the covers... this is discrimination against the chronologically gifted. -- (Terry Pratchett)
Re: CSThe Poor Colon
I thank you for this information MARY -- Original message -- From: CWFugitt c_wa...@earthlink.net Morning Ruth and the list, I have read virtually all the messages on the digestion system, primarily the colon. Here are some of my far out and radical ideas. Some may sound cruel, but this is the way I see it. The poor colon catches everything one throws at it over all the years. In addition, it suffers from all the mistakes and short comings of the upper digestion system and the owner. This includes much bogus food, improper food combining, worthless foods, low fiber foods, glue based food, breads that should not be fed to a dog, maybe not even to a pig. It virtually never gets enough fiber based on the amount stated that we need everyday. Average fiber intake is about 1/3 the amount needed. Often it is listed as 20 to 40 grams. Of course this would be about two pounds or some fiber foods. Maybe even 2.5 pounds. Shortcomings made in the mouth and digestion problems in the stomach are all sent to the poor colon, which must suffer the consequences. In older people, most have had an HCL deficiency for many years. These same people have had virtually every kind of digestion problem known to man. The colon catches hell. Then we wonder why it gets many problems. The cause is virtually Handwriting on the wall and etched in stone. Anyone that thinks any of these single treatments will solve the problems of years of abuse must go back to the drawing board. It is not going to happen. In my field, we have a term, Beyond Economical Repair. I think the medical field needs the same term, or one more descriptive. One short real life story, ... I had an aunt that lived to near 90 years. She had the worse diet in the world. Poor food, drank cokes all the time, and knew nothing about nutrition. One thing. she took her HCL religiously. It was prescribed in the 40's and 50's. Of course I was only a teenager but my memory has been good over the years. Knowing the few facts, and limited knowledge, I can only deduct that the HCL helped her overcome and live to an old age. Most people over 40 fail to make enough HCL. In the group that are sick enough to go to a doctor for any reason, 90 % of these fail to make enough HCL. Blame the medical profession where they disserve it. As I read all the different ailments and treatment for the digestion system, I come to only one conclusion. The medical profession is a huge fraud and a bunch of thieves. Many of my friends over 50 have these stupid colon scopes done regularly. They don't know how to spell digestion system and I don't think their doctors do either. So, everyone needs to get back to the basics, and not 3, 5, or 25 years after a problem shows up. Recently, I had an audiologist charge my insurance $ 775.00 of failed work. He tried to program my speech processor 3 times and all were a total failure. I will call them and try to get the charge cancelled. Maybe I can, or maybe not. There are 1000 more fine points and facts, but I think most of you know them. Again, the poor colon does not have a chance to function right. The complete digestion system is designed to function 24 hours per day. It should always have food high in fiber to work with. Plenty of HCL and enzymes are required for the upper system to do the job before the food gets to the colon. Heck, recently I ate some raw fern leaves. I was amazed how good they tasted. I would have eaten more but they my contain chemical that are not needed. I eat raw okra, raw field peas, peppers and squash, and of course tomatoes. I also eat wild huckleberries, wild cherries, and wild blackberries. The blueberries are not so wild. Soon, many cantaloupes and watermelons. The colon can stand this kind of work. That is what it was designed to do. I welcome any comments. If you think I am crazy, tell me so. Wayne === -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSThe Poor Colon
OK, gotcha. How do you get plenty of HCL and enzymes naturally? Leslie - Original Message - From: CWFugitt c_wa...@earthlink.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, June 25, 2007 4:18 AM Subject: CSThe Poor Colon Morning Ruth and the list, I have read virtually all the messages on the digestion system, primarily the colon. Here are some of my far out and radical ideas. Some may sound cruel, but this is the way I see it. The poor colon catches everything one throws at it over all the years. In addition, it suffers from all the mistakes and short comings of the upper digestion system and the owner. This includes much bogus food, improper food combining, worthless foods, low fiber foods, glue based food, breads that should not be fed to a dog, maybe not even to a pig. It virtually never gets enough fiber based on the amount stated that we need everyday. Average fiber intake is about 1/3 the amount needed. Often it is listed as 20 to 40 grams. Of course this would be about two pounds or some fiber foods. Maybe even 2.5 pounds. Shortcomings made in the mouth and digestion problems in the stomach are all sent to the poor colon, which must suffer the consequences. In older people, most have had an HCL deficiency for many years. These same people have had virtually every kind of digestion problem known to man. The colon catches hell. Then we wonder why it gets many problems. The cause is virtually Handwriting on the wall and etched in stone. Anyone that thinks any of these single treatments will solve the problems of years of abuse must go back to the drawing board. It is not going to happen. In my field, we have a term, Beyond Economical Repair. I think the medical field needs the same term, or one more descriptive. One short real life story, ... I had an aunt that lived to near 90 years. She had the worse diet in the world. Poor food, drank cokes all the time, and knew nothing about nutrition. One thing. she took her HCL religiously. It was prescribed in the 40's and 50's. Of course I was only a teenager but my memory has been good over the years. Knowing the few facts, and limited knowledge, I can only deduct that the HCL helped her overcome and live to an old age. Most people over 40 fail to make enough HCL. In the group that are sick enough to go to a doctor for any reason, 90 % of these fail to make enough HCL. Blame the medical profession where they disserve it. As I read all the different ailments and treatment for the digestion system, I come to only one conclusion. The medical profession is a huge fraud and a bunch of thieves. Many of my friends over 50 have these stupid colon scopes done regularly. They don't know how to spell digestion system and I don't think their doctors do either. So, everyone needs to get back to the basics, and not 3, 5, or 25 years after a problem shows up. Recently, I had an audiologist charge my insurance $ 775.00 of failed work. He tried to program my speech processor 3 times and all were a total failure. I will call them and try to get the charge cancelled. Maybe I can, or maybe not. There are 1000 more fine points and facts, but I think most of you know them. Again, the poor colon does not have a chance to function right. The complete digestion system is designed to function 24 hours per day. It should always have food high in fiber to work with. Plenty of HCL and enzymes are required for the upper system to do the job before the food gets to the colon. Heck, recently I ate some raw fern leaves. I was amazed how good they tasted. I would have eaten more but they my contain chemical that are not needed. I eat raw okra, raw field peas, peppers and squash, and of course tomatoes. I also eat wild huckleberries, wild cherries, and wild blackberries. The blueberries are not so wild. Soon, many cantaloupes and watermelons. The colon can stand this kind of work. That is what it was designed to do. I welcome any comments. If you think I am crazy, tell me so. Wayne === -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: Re: CSRe: Colon-Digestive Problems
Any health food store. Betaine HCL with pepsin or go to a hardware store and get a gallon of muriatic acid for a couple dollars. A teaspoon in 16 Oz. water should work. From: Kirsteen Wright kirsteen.falcons...@gmail.com Date: 2007/06/25 Mon AM 11:52:20 EST To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSRe: Colon-Digestive Problems On 6/25/07, Charles Marcus tansta...@libertytrek.org wrote: Have you ever tried a quality HCL and/or Bile digestive aid/supplement? Where would you get an HCL supplement. I'm in thr UK and not sure what to look for. Thanks Kirsteen -- I do note with interest that old women in my books become young women on the covers... this is discrimination against the chronologically gifted. -- (Terry Pratchett) TJ Conservative Libertarian American!! -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSCS:Re poor colon
Wayne; I wholeheartedly agree with you.Who said ,or wrote the book,Death Begins in the Colon? I am well into my 80s now and have seen and done most of it wrong until I got it right about 10 or so years ago. But,I'm still trying to repair the damage the Med. profession did to me before I wised up. THEY are not in the Health business,but in the sickness business. Harold -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSChanging subject line deleting unneccessary material when replying
is it hard, impossible, or too much trouble to change the subject on the digest messages. Hi Wayne, It is neither hard, impossible, or too much trouble. But for whatever reason, most will not do it. Being on digest, I would also appreciate if others would delete unneccessary material when replying, so that those on digest won't have to wade through lengthy, repeated material. I doubt if either will happen. chuckle Gail Got a little couch potato? Check out fun summer activities for kids. http://search.yahoo.com/search?fr=oni_on_mailp=summer+activities+for+kidscs=bz -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCrazy
You make a lot of sense, Wayne. MOST people abuse their bodies a lifetime with bad food choices pay the price in their later years. Here's a little more on HCL = http://www.aim4health.com/stomachpains.htm Smitty On 6/25/07, Dan Nave dan.n...@nilfisk-advance.com wrote: Wayne, I think you are crazy, but in a relatively sane fashion. Dan -Original Message- From: CWFugitt [mailto:c_wa...@earthlink.net] Sent: Monday, June 25, 2007 4:18 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSThe Poor Colon Morning Ruth and the list, I have read virtually all the messages on the digestion system, primarily the colon. Here are some of my far out and radical ideas. Some may sound cruel, but this is the way I see it. The poor colon catches everything one throws at it over all the years. In addition, it suffers from all the mistakes and short comings of the upper digestion system and the owner. This includes much bogus food, improper food combining, worthless foods, low fiber foods, glue based food, breads that should not be fed to a dog, maybe not even to a pig. It virtually never gets enough fiber based on the amount stated that we need everyday. Average fiber intake is about 1/3 the amount needed. Often it is listed as 20 to 40 grams. Of course this would be about two pounds or some fiber foods. Maybe even 2.5 pounds. Shortcomings made in the mouth and digestion problems in the stomach are all sent to the poor colon, which must suffer the consequences. In older people, most have had an HCL deficiency for many years. These same people have had virtually every kind of digestion problem known to man. The colon catches hell. Then we wonder why it gets many problems. The cause is virtually Handwriting on the wall and etched in stone. Anyone that thinks any of these single treatments will solve the problems of years of abuse must go back to the drawing board. It is not going to happen. In my field, we have a term, Beyond Economical Repair. I think the medical field needs the same term, or one more descriptive. One short real life story, ... I had an aunt that lived to near 90 years. She had the worse diet in the world. Poor food, drank cokes all the time, and knew nothing about nutrition. One thing. she took her HCL religiously. It was prescribed in the 40's and 50's. Of course I was only a teenager but my memory has been good over the years. Knowing the few facts, and limited knowledge, I can only deduct that the HCL helped her overcome and live to an old age. Most people over 40 fail to make enough HCL. In the group that are sick enough to go to a doctor for any reason, 90 % of these fail to make enough HCL. Blame the medical profession where they disserve it. As I read all the different ailments and treatment for the digestion system, I come to only one conclusion. The medical profession is a huge fraud and a bunch of thieves. Many of my friends over 50 have these stupid colon scopes done regularly. They don't know how to spell digestion system and I don't think their doctors do either. So, everyone needs to get back to the basics, and not 3, 5, or 25 years after a problem shows up. Recently, I had an audiologist charge my insurance $ 775.00 of failed work. He tried to program my speech processor 3 times and all were a total failure. I will call them and try to get the charge cancelled. Maybe I can, or maybe not. There are 1000 more fine points and facts, but I think most of you know them. Again, the poor colon does not have a chance to function right. The complete digestion system is designed to function 24 hours per day. It should always have food high in fiber to work with. Plenty of HCL and enzymes are required for the upper system to do the job before the food gets to the colon. Heck, recently I ate some raw fern leaves. I was amazed how good they tasted. I would have eaten more but they my contain chemical that are not needed. I eat raw okra, raw field peas, peppers and squash, and of course tomatoes. I also eat wild huckleberries, wild cherries, and wild blackberries. The blueberries are not so wild. Soon, many cantaloupes and watermelons. The colon can stand this kind of work. That is what it was designed to do. I welcome any comments. If you think I am crazy, tell me so. Wayne === -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSThe Poor Colon
Evening Leslie, At 11:58 AM 6/25/2007, you wrote: OK, gotcha. How do you get plenty of HCL and enzymes naturally? You ask a loaded question. You don't get HCL, unless you take a supplement. You are supposed to make it as needed. Wayne -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSThe Poor Colon, Dogs, Dog Herb
Thanks Wayne. One of my dogs used to always eat the new aubretia plants every spring, and she was the longest lived of my dogs even though the rest of her food was junk. Dee -- The calender of the Theocracy of Muntab counts down, not up. No-one knows why, but it might not be a good idea to hang around and find out. -- (Terry Pratchett, Wyrd Sisters) ---Original Message--- From: CWFugitt Date: 25/06/2007 17:40:28 To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSThe Poor Colon, Dogs, Dog Herb Morning Dee, At 05:34 AM 6/25/2007, you wrote: What is HCL please? Hydrochloric Acid. I should have spelled it out at least once. I understand dogs make it 6 times as strong as humans. I have seen my dog Lay around chewing on a dead rat that smelled very bad, While the Bowl was full of dog food. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSThe Poor Colon, Dogs, Dog Herb
Wayne, It kind of looks like Echinacea; some type of Coneflower. Dan -Original Message- From: CWFugitt [mailto:c_wa...@earthlink.net] Sent: Monday, June 25, 2007 11:06 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSThe Poor Colon, Dogs, Dog Herb My dog eats one kind of weed leaves. She will strip the plant of leaves, and has selected this same weed year after year. I have a picture of the weed on my website. Sent the picture to Texas A and M and they could not identify it. http://www.fugitt.com/files/dog_herb.JPG These will grow 8 to 10 feet tall. This one got under one of my drip lines. Maybe someone will recognize it. Wayne -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSThe Poor Colon
Hi, Wayne, If you do decide to call, on Monday and Friday evenings call after 8 or 9 p.m This Dr. I have phone consultations with sometimes calls me back at very odd hours, depending on his surgical schedule. Ruth From Ruth Strackbein From: Leslie leslie1...@windstream.net Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSThe Poor Colon Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2007 11:58:55 -0500 OK, gotcha. How do you get plenty of HCL and enzymes naturally? Leslie - Original Message - From: CWFugitt c_wa...@earthlink.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, June 25, 2007 4:18 AM Subject: CSThe Poor Colon Morning Ruth and the list, I have read virtually all the messages on the digestion system, primarily the colon. Here are some of my far out and radical ideas. Some may sound cruel, but this is the way I see it. The poor colon catches everything one throws at it over all the years. In addition, it suffers from all the mistakes and short comings of the upper digestion system and the owner. This includes much bogus food, improper food combining, worthless foods, low fiber foods, glue based food, breads that should not be fed to a dog, maybe not even to a pig. It virtually never gets enough fiber based on the amount stated that we need everyday. Average fiber intake is about 1/3 the amount needed. Often it is listed as 20 to 40 grams. Of course this would be about two pounds or some fiber foods. Maybe even 2.5 pounds. Shortcomings made in the mouth and digestion problems in the stomach are all sent to the poor colon, which must suffer the consequences. In older people, most have had an HCL deficiency for many years. These same people have had virtually every kind of digestion problem known to man. The colon catches hell. Then we wonder why it gets many problems. The cause is virtually Handwriting on the wall and etched in stone. Anyone that thinks any of these single treatments will solve the problems of years of abuse must go back to the drawing board. It is not going to happen. In my field, we have a term, Beyond Economical Repair. I think the medical field needs the same term, or one more descriptive. One short real life story, ... I had an aunt that lived to near 90 years. She had the worse diet in the world. Poor food, drank cokes all the time, and knew nothing about nutrition. One thing. she took her HCL religiously. It was prescribed in the 40's and 50's. Of course I was only a teenager but my memory has been good over the years. Knowing the few facts, and limited knowledge, I can only deduct that the HCL helped her overcome and live to an old age. Most people over 40 fail to make enough HCL. In the group that are sick enough to go to a doctor for any reason, 90 % of these fail to make enough HCL. Blame the medical profession where they disserve it. As I read all the different ailments and treatment for the digestion system, I come to only one conclusion. The medical profession is a huge fraud and a bunch of thieves. Many of my friends over 50 have these stupid colon scopes done regularly. They don't know how to spell digestion system and I don't think their doctors do either. So, everyone needs to get back to the basics, and not 3, 5, or 25 years after a problem shows up. Recently, I had an audiologist charge my insurance $ 775.00 of failed work. He tried to program my speech processor 3 times and all were a total failure. I will call them and try to get the charge cancelled. Maybe I can, or maybe not. There are 1000 more fine points and facts, but I think most of you know them. Again, the poor colon does not have a chance to function right. The complete digestion system is designed to function 24 hours per day. It should always have food high in fiber to work with. Plenty of HCL and enzymes are required for the upper system to do the job before the food gets to the colon. Heck, recently I ate some raw fern leaves. I was amazed how good they tasted. I would have eaten more but they my contain chemical that are not needed. I eat raw okra, raw field peas, peppers and squash, and of course tomatoes. I also eat wild huckleberries, wild cherries, and wild blackberries. The blueberries are not so wild. Soon, many cantaloupes and watermelons. The colon can stand this kind of work. That is what it was designed to do. I welcome any comments. If you think I am crazy, tell me so. Wayne === -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com _ Need a break?
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On 6/25/07, noblemet...@bellsouth.net noblemet...@bellsouth.net wrote: Any health food store. Betaine HCL with pepsin or go to a hardware store and get a gallon of muriatic acid for a couple dollars. A teaspoon in 16 Oz. water should work. Thanks, I'll try the Betaine HCL Ta Kirsteen I do note with interest that old women in my books become young women on the covers... this is discrimination against the chronologically gifted. -- (Terry Pratchett)
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On 6/25/07, Gail Naranjo wanda85...@yahoo.com wrote: It is neither hard, impossible, or too much trouble. But for whatever reason, most will not do it. On Gmail, which I use, I never see the subject line in the message I'm replying to so I can't change it. There doesn't seem to be an option for it. If anyone knows of one could they tell me how to do it. The only wany I know is to start a whole new message but it then becomes difficult to quote from the other message etc. Cheers Kirsteen -- I do note with interest that old women in my books become young women on the covers... this is discrimination against the chronologically gifted. -- (Terry Pratchett)
Re: CSChanging subject line deleting unneccessary material when replying
This is the reason why I never use the digest form of any email list. You'd think most people would have figured it out. Even after all the current members have been educated on list protocol/manners you have a ongoing group of newbies, and on and on. Swim against the tide if you want to, the choices are yours, but stop complaining... Chuck Life is tough. Its even tougher if youre stupid. John Wayne On 6/25/2007 1:27:12 PM, Gail Naranjo (wanda85...@yahoo.com) wrote: is it hard, impossible, or too much trouble to change the subject on the digest messages. Hi Wayne, It is neither hard, impossible, or too much trouble. But for whatever reason, most will not do it. Being on digest, I would also appreciate if others would delete unneccessary material when replying, so that those on digest won't have to wade through lengthy, repeated material. I doubt if either will happen. chuckle Gail -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSRe: silver-digest Digest V2007 #293
Hi, Dan, What you say is what I fear. Just don't know how far to go with the plan I am working on with the surgeon. This morning I drank my citrucel before too quickly, turned 0ut it wasn't stirred up enough. It felt like it hadn't gone down for awhile. Then that feeling went away, I thought. Meantime I had called the emergency room in the clinic where I go. They assured me that it would go down. I ate my regular breakfast and lunch. Now at 3 p.m. I ate some freshly steamed sweet potato. That doesn''t seem to have gone down. I think I will call Dr. Nemer's office in the city again to report. I am taking Milk of Magnesia to force the bowel to move, but think it isn't working very well. Ruth From Ruth Strackbein From: Dan Nave na...@comcast.net Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSRe: silver-digest Digest V2007 #293 Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2007 22:17:10 -0500 One absolutely should not take bulking agents like psyllium and especially psyllium with bentonite if they are not moving their bowels. This is why it is important to take the much recommended Dr. Schulze laxative Formula # 1 which will force the bowel to contract as it moves along it, therefore causing the bowel to move. Otherwise you will just get impaction of the bowels. Once the bowels are moving, you keep using the laxative Formula #1 and start taking some of the bulking/cleansing Formula #2 which is like psyllium and bentonite with additional soothing, healing and cleansing agents. This will also slow the action of the Formula #1 so that if it caused diarrhea it can be slowed down and you should be able to reach an equilibrium you can live with. The Formula #1 is like taking your intestines to the gym and working them out so that they have strong muscles again. It forces the muscles of the intestines to contract as it moves along inside them. If you have some cramping, so what? Those muscles have work they need to do and they are so weak that they don't like the workout. Dr. Schulze recommends, even insists, that for the serious period of cleansing/healing that the patients go on a diet which entirely animal free, nothing that ever touched an animal... He recommends an initial juice diet, mostly carrot juice with some Superfood (dried, powdered green foods that you can buy from his site as well), things that can be digested very quickly as they move through the digestive system. The reason for the animal-less diet has to do with thinning out the blood so that it can get where it needs to for healing, since healing can only happen when the blood and fluids bring nutrients to the area and take away the waste products. Even if you have diarrhea for a period of time this would be OK since you will be able to get nutrition from the fast digesting diet. I hope you will consider this closely. Of course, research it to your satisfaction and make your own decision since you are the one who has to live with it. Just don't reject it out of hand... Dan PS If you must have surgery, why don't they just remove the constricting hourglass section of the colon, not the whole thing?... ruth strackbein wrote: HI, Gail, I am quite sure that Homozon is good stuff. however what is good for most people or even many people, is not necessaily good for me. My chiropractor said that he had never had a patient who did not respond positively to takeing bentonite clay with psyllium until I came along. I took it for 4 months without a solution to my problems. He has been in business in this area for many years. My older two sons want me to try it. And eventually, I may do that. Thanks, Ruth From Ruth Strackbein -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com _ PC Magazines 2007 editors choice for best Web mailaward-winning Windows Live Hotmail. http://imagine-windowslive.com/hotmail/?locale=en-usocid=TXT_TAGHM_migration_HM_mini_pcmag_0507
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Evening Kirsteen, At 02:47 PM 6/25/2007, you wrote: On Gmail, which I use, I never see the subject line in the message I'm replying to so I can't change it. There doesn't seem to be an option for it. That is a disaster and reason enough to NOT USE IT. Why use such a stupid piece of software ? There are dozens of decent mail programs out there. Is that Webmail ? or what ? Seems several people are using Gmail. For what reason? The only wany I know is to start a whole new message but it then becomes difficult to quote from the other message etc. That is another disaster. Surely you can find a decent email program. Wayne -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSRe: protocols for congestive heart failure (CHF)
Hi, Duncan, I wish everyone would stop using initials for conditionns or medications. Many of us have no idea what you are talking about. Thanks, Ruth From Ruth Strackbein From: Michael Zangari truez2...@yahoo.com Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSRe: protocols for congestive heart failure (CHF) Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2007 15:01:42 -0700 (PDT) I use HGH as well with consistent results. =z= Duncan Crow duncanc...@shaw.ca wrote: HGH builds and improves the heart muscle, improving cardiac output in congestive heart failure or after some heart muscle has died off after a heart attack, just as it improves the whole body, glands, organs and all. SomaLife gHP increases HGH secretion to maximum youthful values with each dose, resulting in increased healing over a period of 3- 6 months or so. Benefits can continue to accumulate using a SomaLife gHP program, for about 2-2.5 years. HGH shots work too; they are the choice of the well-heeled and some anti-aging doctors, but correct dosing/frequency requires careful attention. While nutrition is of course important, HGH is the right tool for this job because it is an absolute requirement for lean tissue rehabilitation, muscle tone and growth, and people with age- related disorders such as CHF, weak immune response, kidney failure, etc, have those disorders primarily because their HGH secretion is falling naturally with age. I have been into anti-aging subjects since about 1991; some of the studies on cardiac output, metabolic and age-related complaints, osteoporosis, renal failure, arthritis, fibromyalgia etc, and how these age-related and HGH deficiency illnesses and other aging symptoms can be treated, can be found at the following link. A lot of people fail on circulation, and many elderly people have benefited by a program of metabolic enzymes that improve microcirculation by reducing blood coagulation, clotting, plaque, organ fibrosis etc. It almost goes without saying that at a cellular level, good microcirculation is a requirement for waste removal and nutrient and oxygen delivery (thus recovery). The combination of BlockBuster All Clear enzymes to reduce the circulatory impairment and doing a 10-minute sit bounce on a mini trampoline every day is doable by everybody. The mini-tramp can move lymph 14 times better than jogging, and an acidic and stagnant lymph is a huge obstacle to a healing program. Chronically high blood pressure, a cause of CHF, can be high for several reasons, most of them dietary; we can discuss these elsewhere. But in the end it's the low antioxidant pool in combination with the reduced ability to repair that accumulates cardiac damage. In the order to avoid damage, the heart requires quite a lot of antioxidants, especially CoQ10 and glutathione, both of which are used in the energy creation process so the heart muscle can twitch at all :) as well as being the main antioxidant protection against cell death and tissue weakness. Low glutathione is the main cause of oxidative stress, which is a condition of systemically low antioxidant levels accompanied by with local depletions (as seen also in cardiac, joint and bowel disorders). I have a reference section on glutathione here: http://members.shaw.ca/duncancrow/glutathione-references.html Duncan http://members.shaw.ca/SomaLife-gHP On 23 Jun 2007 at 12:50, Charles Marcus wrote: My father and my partner both suffer from CHF (Dad was diagnosed 2 weeks ago, Guy a number of years ago). Guy also suffers from IILD. See my prior post on Dr Schulze and Haqwthorne - this is exactly what he had, if memory serves. I would immediatley get on his program for heart health and his lung formula. In fact, I would do his entire program if I had any serious health problem. These herbal formulas are the most potent you can find commercially, and are all made from organically grown and/or wild-harvested herbs harvested at the appropriate time in their growth cycle. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour =z= The novelist, journalist and psychologist Michael Zangari http://zangarijournalism.com - TV dinner still cooling? Check out Tonight's Picks on Yahoo! TV. _ Get a preview of Live Earth, the hottest event this summer - only on MSN http://liveearth.msn.com?source=msntaglineliveearthhm
Re: CSThe Poor Colon --What is HCL?? ( hydrochloric acid)
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RE: CSRe: silver-digest Digest V2007 #293
I don't know if it is correct to say that a magnesium product like milk of magnesia will *force* the bowels to move. However, the cascara sagrada in the Formula #1 *will* force your bowels to move. The methods of action are different. Dr. Schulze says he even got intestine from a cadaver to contract when it came into contact with cascara sagrada... Dan -Original Message- From: ruth strackbein [mailto:ruthstrackb...@hotmail.com] Sent: Monday, June 25, 2007 3:14 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSRe: silver-digest Digest V2007 #293 Hi, Dan, What you say is what I fear. Just don't know how far to go with the plan I am working on with the surgeon. This morning I drank my citrucel before too quickly, turned 0ut it wasn't stirred up enough. It felt like it hadn't gone down for awhile. Then that feeling went away, I thought. Meantime I had called the emergency room in the clinic where I go. They assured me that it would go down. I ate my regular breakfast and lunch. Now at 3 p.m. I ate some freshly steamed sweet potato. That doesn''t seem to have gone down. I think I will call Dr. Nemer's office in the city again to report. I am taking Milk of Magnesia to force the bowel to move, but think it isn't working very well. Ruth From Ruth Strackbein -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSRe: silver-digest Digest V2007 #293
HIDan, Actually, right now my bowel has turned the other way. Am having piles of stool that border on diarrhea. That is what this Dr. wants to have happen and then we work to balance it out. I had my doubts about Milk of Mag giving me th kick I need, but apparently something has. He also suggested Dulcolax. But that also gives too much of a kick. My bowel seems to be trigger happy right now. Am also using Citrucel which I hate. My digestive tract is entirely unaccustomed to having sugar in it in any amount. I will once in awhile eat a hard candy, but seldom. And the sugar free has aspartame in it, I seem to remember from the old days when I used these things regularly. This doctor is trying to avoid having to do surgery on my bowel. He is working with the only tools he is familiar with. If , indeed, I need to have the surgery , this is the surgeon I want to use since he is a gastroenterology surgery who only operates on the colon and rectum. Trouble is, that at nearly 79, I haven't got an awful lot of time to try out combinations of all these possible therapies, many of which sound very good. But how do I know what they will do in my already compromised digestive system. I know you will say that I already know that Citrucel, etc. don't work , but I haven;'t used them in quite a few years. I have a phone appointment with the surgeon for whenever he gets a few minutes to call me back. I am getting too wordy again. Am printing out a great deal of this information and will study it carefully. Ruth From Ruth Strackbein From: Dan Nave dan.n...@nilfisk-advance.com Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSRe: silver-digest Digest V2007 #293 Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2007 15:48:04 -0500 I don't know if it is correct to say that a magnesium product like milk of magnesia will *force* the bowels to move. However, the cascara sagrada in the Formula #1 *will* force your bowels to move. The methods of action are different. Dr. Schulze says he even got intestine from a cadaver to contract when it came into contact with cascara sagrada... Dan -Original Message- From: ruth strackbein [mailto:ruthstrackb...@hotmail.com] Sent: Monday, June 25, 2007 3:14 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSRe: silver-digest Digest V2007 #293 Hi, Dan, What you say is what I fear. Just don't know how far to go with the plan I am working on with the surgeon. This morning I drank my citrucel before too quickly, turned 0ut it wasn't stirred up enough. It felt like it hadn't gone down for awhile. Then that feeling went away, I thought. Meantime I had called the emergency room in the clinic where I go. They assured me that it would go down. I ate my regular breakfast and lunch. Now at 3 p.m. I ate some freshly steamed sweet potato. That doesn''t seem to have gone down. I think I will call Dr. Nemer's office in the city again to report. I am taking Milk of Magnesia to force the bowel to move, but think it isn't working very well. Ruth From Ruth Strackbein -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com _ Get a preview of Live Earth, the hottest event this summer - only on MSN http://liveearth.msn.com?source=msntaglineliveearthhm
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On Monday 25 June 2007 12:47 pm, Kirsteen Wright wrote: On 6/25/07, Gail Naranjo wanda85...@yahoo.com wrote: It is neither hard, impossible, or too much trouble. But for whatever reason, most will not do it. On Gmail, which I use, I never see the subject line in the message I'm replying to so I can't change it. There doesn't seem to be an option for it. If anyone knows of one could they tell me how to do it. The only wany I know is to start a whole new message but it then becomes difficult to quote from the other message etc. Cheers Kirsteen Hi Kristeen. I to use Gmail and as you can see I can change the subject line. There are two ways of doing this. If you are going to the Gmail site to read and respond to your mail, once you click on reply you should have a button marked edit subject. If you click on this it will bring up the subject line in an editable field. The other way is to setup your email client so that Gmail is one of your accounts. That is the way I do it simply because I prefer using my own email client for all my email. IHTH -- L T R Registered linux user # 280295 Associate member #4758 of The Free Software Foundation itisi...@gmail.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSRe: silver-digest Digest V2007 #293
On 6/25/2007 4:48:04 PM, dan.n...@nilfisk-advance.com wrote: I don't know if it is correct to say that a magnesium product like milk of magnesia will *force* the bowels to move. However, the cascara sagrada in the Formula #1 *will* force your bowels to move. The methods of action are different. Dr. Schulze says he even got intestine from a cadaver to contract when it came into contact with cascara sagrada... Dan Eee, That'd make MY stomach turn, also... Chuck Think of it as evolution in action -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSThe Poor Colon --What is HCL?? ( hydrochloric acid)
Hi, This is an excellent site for diagnosis and ideas for treatment. Will explore it further. Thanks for sharing it, m1mar...@aol.com. Ruth From Ruth Strackbein From: m1mar...@aol.com Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSThe Poor Colon --What is HCL?? ( hydrochloric acid) Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2007 16:43:44 EDT _http://www.diagnose-me.com/cond/C42561.html_ (http://www.diagnose-me.com/cond/C42561.html) ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. _ Like puzzles? Play free games earn great prizes. Play Clink now. http://club.live.com/clink.aspx?icid=clink_hotmailtextlink2 -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSRe: The Poor Colon
About fiber: I am scared to try all raw foods. Why? Personally, if I were in your shoes, I'd start off with a day or two of fasting, then start in on lots of veggie juices and Dr Schulze's potassium broth, combined with heaping tablespoons of superfood (I prefer 'Natures First Food' (http://tinyurl.com/2z4mee) from www.rawfood.com to Dr Schulze's, with some extra Chlorella straight from Taiwan). NO fruit juices (fruits should not be juiced as a rule, although, again, apples can be added for sweetening)... Romaine lettuce once or twice a day is the only vegetable I eat raw. A full cup of romaine lettuce has less than 2 grams of fiber - so it isn't exactly a 'fiber powerhouse', although it is a bit better than iceberg... Do eat bananas and cantalope. I know bananas are supposed to be constipating, but most fruits seem to burn in my upper right ribcage trouble spot, and I need to gain weight. The main thing to understand about fruits... You should not mix them with any cooked foods, *especially* meat or potatoes. Fruits are meant to be digested mostly in the intestines, not the stomach - but if you eat them with 'regular' foods, then they tend to just sit there and ferment (which is why many people get 'gas' when they eat fruit). Some people can tolerate this better than others, obviously... Also - melons - the rule is 'eat them alone or LEAVE them alone'. Don't even mix them with other fruits - melons are meant to be *entirely* digested in the intestines, and can cause lots of gastric distress if eaten with 'regular' food... Some exceptions - apples and papayas (due to their enzyme content, these can act as digestive aids to an extent)... Right now I am passing quite a few stools a day. The general rule of thumb - according to Dr Schulze - is a bowel movement upon first arising, then one movement after each meal (so, one more movement than meals)... But... just because you are having the requisite number of movements does *not* automatically mean that you are 'regular' - and Ruth, I guarantee you, the fact that your transit time is 5-7 days means that this is your problem. If memory serves, transit times for fruits is supposed to be a couple of hours, veggies maybe 3 or 4, and meats/animal proteins, 8 hours or so. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSRe: homozon
Hi Gary, thanks for that info. I always thought that oxygen was a bad thing 'Oxygen' != (does not equal) 'oxidant' Also, ozone != smog Ozone is found in larger concentrations in smog, because it is natures way of trying to *clean it up*. Ozone is responsible for that remarkably fresh, clean smell you smell after a thunderstorm. I have asked this on the list before, but no answers. I understood that oxygen caused degeneration, which is why we take 'anti' oxidants. Any thoughts on this? Dee There is even room for argument about the whole oxidant/antioxidant thing... But, the bottom line is, ozone, used appropriately, is one of the most powerful healing tools available. Google on 'ozone sauna', ozone insufflation', etc - Dr Kellogg (yes, of 'Kellogg Cereal' fame) used it in his sanitarium in the late 1800's and cured all kinds of things (he used hot/cold therapy as well), and Nikola Tesla designed the first cold plasma generator that would last virtually forever (as did most anything he built - he designed the power generators at Niagara Falls, which are still running at the same output today). -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSRe: homozon
You want to use an oxygen product to oxidize the toxins and then after a period of time use anti-oxidants to clean up the free radicals left behind. There are a couple of oxygen based lists that follow different protocols and they say their is a wait time between oxygen (ozone, homozon, hydrogen peroxide, stc.) and vitamin C or any other anti-oxidant or food in general. This is a very good protocol when trying to remove toxins. I have used all these protocols except for ozone (except ozonated water) due to the fact I am not near an ozonator. I have found homozon very beneficial at liquifying toxic waste in the bowel and usee it in conjunction eith the master cleanse protocol. The magnesium does result in smooth muscle relaxation as well so helps with movements in that regard. Check out the oxyplus list at yahoo or Ozonetherapy at yahoo check out one of the top authorities on ozone , Dr. Saul Pressman. For more information on his ozone website go to http://www.plasmafire.com G Charles Marcus wrote: Hi Gary, thanks for that info. I always thought that oxygen was a bad thing 'Oxygen' != (does not equal) 'oxidant' Also, ozone != smog Ozone is found in larger concentrations in smog, because it is natures way of trying to *clean it up*. Ozone is responsible for that remarkably fresh, clean smell you smell after a thunderstorm. I have asked this on the list before, but no answers. I understood that oxygen caused degeneration, which is why we take 'anti' oxidants. Any thoughts on this? Dee There is even room for argument about the whole oxidant/antioxidant thing... But, the bottom line is, ozone, used appropriately, is one of the most powerful healing tools available. Google on 'ozone sauna', ozone insufflation', etc - Dr Kellogg (yes, of 'Kellogg Cereal' fame) used it in his sanitarium in the late 1800's and cured all kinds of things (he used hot/cold therapy as well), and Nikola Tesla designed the first cold plasma generator that would last virtually forever (as did most anything he built - he designed the power generators at Niagara Falls, which are still running at the same output today). -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSGoing Bananas
Hi Forum! I read both Ruth Strackbein’s and Wayne’s posts with interest, and as always my concern is greatest at the fact that most people are (still) not conscious of the need to feed on living (green vegetable) food, and NOT on canned, processed, old, stale stuff. As strong as this, is the advice NOT TO COOK FOOD TWICE. Cook as much as you and your family eat, don’t overdo (ingesting two thirds of your plate is a good yard stick) and don’t ever re-cook. For respected Ruth’s Do eat bananas and cantalope. I know bananas are supposed to be constipating I am continually craving for bananas, which started when I Scuba-dived: In terms of alimentation for divers bananas are # 1. Constipation? I risk to believe, and utter that it is personal. It might be of help if you take in enough liquid (water?) during the day: 8 glasses - say 4 in the morning, 4 in the afternoon is a good measurement. I once received an article about bananas and the nutritional riches they render; probably got it from this same Forum long ago. I tried to cut it down to the acceptable amount of KB’s for sending, but I still have fingers of lead for computing, and it keeps saying ‘26 KB’ even cutting into 7 pieces, and I would not want to let that spoil my mood or make me going bananas (as it already does…) So anyone interested in the article which I titled ‘going bananas’, please write to: luzy...@une.net.co and I’ll send you the article. Really worth reading! FaithStFrancis ‘ “ Did you meet him on the Road? Did you help him with the Load? “ ‘ Saddhu Vaswani - Poona, India _ Connect to the next generation of MSN Messenger http://imagine-msn.com/messenger/launch80/default.aspx?locale=en-ussource=wlmailtagline
RE: CSRe: The Poor Colon
Hi, Charles, The burning pain that is very much stronger recently in the ileo area and the upper ribcage right center area, the kinks in my bowel that show up in the recent X-rays, and past experiences with my digestive track contribute to my fear. I do eat bananas and cantalope separate from other foods, but not from each other. Will try separating them although there are only so many hours in the day in which to keep things separate adequately. Recently I weighed 105 llbs. for my 5ft 6+ frame . Have managed to get it up to 113. Stomach has shrunk, I suspect so it is hard to eat enough to gain without overeating. I have a good appetite, even when the burning pain is severe. I do have a real issue with cost of things. The visits I have with medical Docs are paid for by medicare and supplementary insurance . I have been encouraged to try so many alternative things. And my cupboard is full of partially used meds. I have tried eating apricots lately. They may be behind my present dificulties to some extent. Pretty hard to tell what causes what. How I would love to have a stool after each meal and no more. I have used prune juice in recent months, the kind with the pulp left in. I know that the present state of affairs in my colon is not normal in any sense of the word. One aspect of this situation is that the pain is right sided, which may point to adhesions. Have used castor oil packs without relief. I surely will try your suggestion about not mixing bananas and cantalope. I am developing quite a library of printouts, all of which contain potentially useful information. Thanks, Ruth From Ruth Strackbein From: Charles Marcus tansta...@libertytrek.org Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSRe: The Poor Colon Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2007 17:49:57 -0400 About fiber: I am scared to try all raw foods. Why? Personally, if I were in your shoes, I'd start off with a day or two of fasting, then start in on lots of veggie juices and Dr Schulze's potassium broth, combined with heaping tablespoons of superfood (I prefer 'Natures First Food' (http://tinyurl.com/2z4mee) from www.rawfood.com to Dr Schulze's, with some extra Chlorella straight from Taiwan). NO fruit juices (fruits should not be juiced as a rule, although, again, apples can be added for sweetening)... Romaine lettuce once or twice a day is the only vegetable I eat raw. A full cup of romaine lettuce has less than 2 grams of fiber - so it isn't exactly a 'fiber powerhouse', although it is a bit better than iceberg... Do eat bananas and cantalope. I know bananas are supposed to be constipating, but most fruits seem to burn in my upper right ribcage trouble spot, and I need to gain weight. The main thing to understand about fruits... You should not mix them with any cooked foods, *especially* meat or potatoes. Fruits are meant to be digested mostly in the intestines, not the stomach - but if you eat them with 'regular' foods, then they tend to just sit there and ferment (which is why many people get 'gas' when they eat fruit). Some people can tolerate this better than others, obviously... Also - melons - the rule is 'eat them alone or LEAVE them alone'. Don't even mix them with other fruits - melons are meant to be *entirely* digested in the intestines, and can cause lots of gastric distress if eaten with 'regular' food... Some exceptions - apples and papayas (due to their enzyme content, these can act as digestive aids to an extent)... Right now I am passing quite a few stools a day. The general rule of thumb - according to Dr Schulze - is a bowel movement upon first arising, then one movement after each meal (so, one more movement than meals)... But... just because you are having the requisite number of movements does *not* automatically mean that you are 'regular' - and Ruth, I guarantee you, the fact that your transit time is 5-7 days means that this is your problem. If memory serves, transit times for fruits is supposed to be a couple of hours, veggies maybe 3 or 4, and meats/animal proteins, 8 hours or so. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com _ Need a break? Find your escape route with Live Search Maps. http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?ss=Restaurants~Hotels~Amusement%20Parkcp=33.832922~-117.915659style=rlvl=13tilt=-90dir=0alt=-1000scene=1118863encType=1FORM=MGAC01
CSComplaints vrs. Requests
Chuck, Making a simple request is not a complaint. Albeit, I'm sure it's a wasted request. As experience has taught, it's not going to happen. Gail From: cking...@nycap.rr.com Swim against the tide if you want to, the choices are yours, but stop complaining... Chuck Luggage? GPS? Comic books? Check out fitting gifts for grads at Yahoo! Search http://search.yahoo.com/search?fr=oni_on_mailp=graduation+giftscs=bz -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSGoing Bananas
Hi, Faith, Thanks for your backing up my banana consumption! I am drinking 10-12 14 oz. of water daily by the order of the surgeon who wants to help me manage my colon in such a way that sugury will not be necessary. He calls it a terrible surgery, even though he most likely is very good at it since he works from a gastroenterology clinic that deals only with colon and rectal surgery. Trouble many of his proposed interventions work against what I feel is good for my colon, principally, taking Citrucel. I will see what I can work out about not cooking my food twice. Actually, the second time is just heating and even the first cooking is done at low temps, but longer. I am hoping you will be able to work out a way to send me the bananas post that my computer can accept. I should check with my oldest son. He used to try to send attachments like you did . Now his posts come right with his regular posts. Should ask him how he does that. Ruth From Ruth Strackbein From: Faith Saint Francis fesanfranci...@hotmail.com Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSGoing Bananas Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2007 17:25:53 -0500 Hi Forum! I read both Ruth Strackbeins and Waynes posts with interest, and as always my concern is greatest at the fact that most people are (still) not conscious of the need to feed on living (green vegetable) food, and NOT on canned, processed, old, stale stuff. As strong as this, is the advice NOT TO COOK FOOD TWICE. Cook as much as you and your family eat, dont overdo (ingesting two thirds of your plate is a good yard stick) and dont ever re-cook. For respected Ruths Do eat bananas and cantalope. I know bananas are supposed to be constipating I am continually craving for bananas, which started when I Scuba-dived: In terms of alimentation for divers bananas are # 1. Constipation? I risk to believe, and utter that it is personal. It might be of help if you take in enough liquid (water?) during the day: 8 glasses - say 4 in the morning, 4 in the afternoon is a good measurement. I once received an article about bananas and the nutritional riches they render; probably got it from this same Forum long ago. I tried to cut it down to the acceptable amount of KBs for sending, but I still have fingers of lead for computing, and it keeps saying 26 KB even cutting into 7 pieces, and I would not want to let that spoil my mood or make me going bananas (as it already does ) So anyone interested in the article which I titled going bananas, please write to: luzy...@une.net.co and Ill send you the article. Really worth reading! FaithStFrancis Did you meet him on the Road? Did you help him with the Load? Saddhu Vaswani - Poona, India _ Connect to the next generation of MSN Messenger http://imagine-msn.com/messenger/launch80/default.aspx?locale=en-ussource=wlmailtagline _ Get a preview of Live Earth, the hottest event this summer - only on MSN http://liveearth.msn.com?source=msntaglineliveearthhm -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CShomozon
Thanks, Gary, I don't use any flour of any kind so no glue! I do eat bananas which some say are constipating. Right now am having the opposite problem, at least part of the time. Thanks also for the links. Ruth p.s. Right now there is so much burning pain in my right abdomen that I hesitate to use anything different. From Ruth Strackbein From: garyc gdc4...@sbcglobal.net Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CShomozon Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2007 21:26:01 -0500 hi, my name is gary courtney..I've used homozon on and off for some time...it will work for any body...its loaded with high energy oxygen..ozone...it will liquify all encrusted hard fecal matter,usually within afew weeks... if you quit using white bread glue that will help...you will need to stay close to the stool and don't let any toots or you'll darken your drawers...the extra oxygen will help the good bacteria to grow and if you keep taking it, all that good high energy oxygen will be absorbed from your colon and into your organs to help clean them up too...I've heard of people getting rid of cancer and other degenerative problems by elevating the o2..any way hope this helps someonegaryc.the place I get the homozon is www.excellentthings.net and another one I've used is oxy-powder and that's here www.ghchealth.com/oxy-powder.php _ Picture this share your photos and you could win big! http://www.GETREALPhotoContest.com?ocid=TXT_TAGHMloc=us -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSSubject Line In Gmail, was, Changing subject line deleting unneccessary material when replyin
Thanks for the tip. I'll use it from now on. Smitty On 6/25/07, Langsley itisi...@gmail.com wrote: On Monday 25 June 2007 12:47 pm, Kirsteen Wright wrote: On 6/25/07, Gail Naranjo wanda85...@yahoo.com wrote: It is neither hard, impossible, or too much trouble. But for whatever reason, most will not do it. On Gmail, which I use, I never see the subject line in the message I'm replying to so I can't change it. There doesn't seem to be an option for it. If anyone knows of one could they tell me how to do it. The only wany I know is to start a whole new message but it then becomes difficult to quote from the other message etc. Cheers Kirsteen Hi Kristeen. I to use Gmail and as you can see I can change the subject line. There are two ways of doing this. If you are going to the Gmail site to read and respond to your mail, once you click on reply you should have a button marked edit subject. If you click on this it will bring up the subject line in an editable field. The other way is to setup your email client so that Gmail is one of your accounts. That is the way I do it simply because I prefer using my own email client for all my email. IHTH -- L T R Registered linux user # 280295 Associate member #4758 of The Free Software Foundation itisi...@gmail.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CScolon treatment - don't heat food twice
Ruth Strackbein wrote: He calls it a terrible surgery, even though… Removing essential organs from the body always is; who am I to criticize a surgeon? Yet, I may have a self treatment of the colon for you. If you are able to put your right foot on the left knee (and afterwards the left foot on the right knee), then you can do the self treatment taught by maps of the feet I can send you (luzy...@une.net.co – rather Leo for now, for Luz is out of the country, called urgently by one of our clients in the Netherlands Antilles.) I will see what I can work out about not cooking my food twice. Actually, the second time is just heating Never cook –or heat ja ja ja- food twice. Like heating food in a micro-wave: The substance remains, but the feeding power is totally gone. FaithStFrancis _ Explore the seven wonders of the world http://search.msn.com/results.aspx?q=7+wonders+worldmkt=en-USform=QBRE
CSStaph in Semen: Please Help
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Re: CSThe Poor Colon, Dogs, Dog Herb
Wayne, That plant looks so familiar - I looked through my audubon feild guides but can't find what it is. Does the plant flower? Dennis CWFugitt wrote: Morning Dee, At 05:34 AM 6/25/2007, you wrote: What is HCL please? Hydrochloric Acid. I should have spelled it out at least once. I understand dogs make it 6 times as strong as humans. I have seen my dog lay around chewing on a dead rat that smelled very bad, while the bowl was full of dog food. That must be telling us a lot. We can learn a lot from dogs. My dog eats one kind of weed leaves. She will strip the plant of leaves, and has selected this same weed year after year. I have a picture of the weed on my website. Sent the picture to Texas A and M and they could not identify it. http://www.fugitt.com/files/dog_herb.JPG These will grow 8 to 10 feet tall. This one got under one of my drip lines. Maybe someone will recognize it. Wayne -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
