Re: CSinfected gland/cyst, ideas
On 14 Sep 2010 at 18:50, jaxi wrote about : Subject : CSinfected gland/cyst, ideas I have an infected gland in the genital area. I have read what the medical establishment's solution would be - which would be to drain it, put in a catheter, possible antibiotics, possible surgical procedure to create apermanentopening for drainage ... none of this sounds very fun to me. You all have a lot on knowledge and info. Any ideas on a dmso, CS, or other alternative method of addressing this? I plan to do some baths/soaks, but no idea topically if anything might help. The gland is called the bartholin's gland - I currently have anabscess- as indicated byinflammationand rather significant pain. I do NOT have an STD. Jaxi Hi Jaxi, Its a sensitive area, so think of dulling the pain somehow, now that you know there is a problem there. CS will sooth and disinfect. DMSO is an analgesic and may sort out the infect and will also relax tissues; please use that very dilute; maybe less that 10% dmso. Brooks had a very good formula for that sort of insult and had lidocaine added too for pain , and H202 to potentise the cs and antibacteria. Other ways may be to use epsonsalts , honey and glycerine, all good at drawing Sorry this has to end hope its not too garbled. OK, Tony -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CShelp needed Skin cancer - black salve or chickweed
Hi Renee, I can access that from here, South Africa. OK, Tony On 14 Sep 2010 at 19:22, Renee wrote about : Subject : Re: CShelp needed Skin cancer - bl Nope. Every time I type in www.altcancer.com all I get is their product sales page. Wonder why?I've also typed in www.alphaomegalabs.com which also switches me to the product sales page. I cannot access the information site. Are you in the US? Samala, Renee ---Original Message--- I can access the complete site at altcancer.com Could your access by restricted by your service provider, or somewhere higher up the net? -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSLupus, cancer, arthritis etc. autoimmune? or bugs having lunch?
Sorry, it's new to me too. My only tools would be my Enar device, which I started using seriously again after reading this, and Bob Luhr's godzilla devices (http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/microelectricitygermkiller/?yguid=372310832 ) which I intend to use again when I make some more attachments for the 6v battery, having been a bit too kind in parting with what I had made, possibly to people who don't appreciate/use it. I've been given a Hulda Clark device, but can't tell how to get it going, what goes where. It's a home made device and not like anything I've seen before. Rowena Actually, if I had any sense I would be using the 6v battery daily even without wiring/electrodes simply by winding some damp cotton or tissue around the terminals and touching them with fingers or toes. Don't use higher than 6v without better technology in between you and it is the advice. People do, but at their own risk. It's not advised to go unprotected higher than 6v. At least that would likely kill some germs, I don't know about raising voltage. To do exactly what Dr Tennant is doing you may need his device. However, I guess you could research and compare with goodies from the various Scenar and Denas sites. I think they are all a huge leap forward. On 15/09/2010 4:18 AM, needling around wrote: Hi Rowena, How do you raise your voltage? I have started watching the videos and I agree with some things and not with others. Dr. Tennant has a very expensive piece of equipment but I would think that there must be a simpler way. Thanks. PT - Original Message - From: Rowena new...@internode.on.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2010 1:41 PM Subject: CSLupus, cancer, arthritis etc. autoimmune? or bugs having lunch? Dr Jerry Tennant An Understanding of How the body Works http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qMrgqXs9FZAfeature=related This is just a quick transcription with lots of holes in it, so please watch the videos on this page! If you have low voltage things begin to hurt, you hurt all the time. If you have pain, you have low voltage. It controls the level of oxygen that's available, so if I start bubbling oxygen in the water through a tube the amount that will dissolve is determined by the voltage of the water, Higher - more oxygen, lower, leaves the water.. Our cells are 70% water. When the voltage drops in a cell the oxygen comes out and the cell has to get by with too little oxygen. We have a system inside the cells that generates energy for the cells to do their work. Insert fat in one side of the Krebs cycle and what comes out the other side is a rechargeable battery called ATP - provides all the Electrons for your enzymes for your cell and discharges into a discharged rechargeable battery called ADP. 38 molecules out the other side - lots of energy. If oxygen not available, for every unit of fat you only get 2 molecules of ATP Each of us contain a trillion bugs or so and they are asleep as long as oxygen is available. When they wake up with the drop of oxygen they want to eat. They put out digestive enzymes to get the nutrients out of your cells. Damaging the cells around them, but also go to distant places and damage cells there as well. Strep throat - bacteria having lunch there. Enzymes strep puts out can get in blood stream and scar heart. Damage knees, rheum arthritis. Same goes on through the body, so low voltage in gall bladder, and bugs there put out toxins that commonly damage the brain, so brain not working well could be because of low voltage in gall bladder. I don't believe there is such a thing as autoimmune disease, just bugs having lunch and these enzymes going somewhere doing damage.. When we can't culture anything we say, oh, the body is attacking itself. Well, the body is not attacking itself, these enzymes that the bugs are putting out are attacking it. And one of the reasons I can say that is I have taken a fair number of people with Lupus with a high blood test called ANA, you go in, raise the voltage kill the bugs and the ANA goes back to normal and the people get well. Simply low voltage, bugs having lunch, enzymes going places and causing grief. So then if voltage gets low enough, one of the bugs that grow are fungal bugs that you can see in the blood with a darkfield microscope. And then those fungal forms begin to take over the cell and now you have a tumour, and that occurs at plus thirty mV Chronic disease always defined by low voltage. More questions: How do we measure the voltage? Acupuncture system just the fascial planes in the body to every organ and from that capsule a fibre goes down to every group of cells, so what we know as the fascia is the same as acupuncture system so you can tap into that and measure what is going on with the internal organs. Also a sheath around every nerve, a second wiring system that carries voltage wherever we go.
Re: CS black salve /Cansema / Potter skin cancer experience
http://bevanpotter.com/ http://www.centreforce.com/ On the Centreforce link, if you click on My Photos you get photos of his skin after surgery, and then after Cansema treatment. This page has been there for years. You'll see that he is a computer technician (or something like that) by trade. He says: *This story has two episodes, one with doctors and the other with Cansema ** **In August 2001 I was admitted to hospital for the removal of multiple cancerous lesions and extensive facial reconstruction. The lesions were basal cell carcinoma and squamous cell carcinomas. The surgery was performed and an appointment was made for a checkup a month later. The result of the checkup was that the operation went OK but I would have to be admitted again at a latter date for a more extensive operation. I was very unhappy about this so I decided to search for alternatives. About this time a friend sent me an email pointing me in the direction of Alpha Omega Labs and I purchased a jar of Cansema , with stunning results, it literally ate the lesions right out. That little jar of black gold has saved me from ongoing torture and thousands of dollars expenses. I was so impressed with Cansema and so angry with doctors that I decided to build a web site to tell others about Cansema and all the other amazing products from Alpha Omega Labs. Since then I have successfully helped many others in the same situation as myself. These photos can tell the story from here. Omitting the photos, he then says: Episode One This is how I looked after the operation for the removal of cancer to the right side of my face. Several stitches to my cheek, nose, ear and forehead. Two weeks after the operation I was pretty happy but I had a feeling there must be a better way. Two months after the operation I wasn't happy about doctors, I had purchased Cansema on the internet and it immediately found cancer exactly where the surgeon had operated. Cansema at work showing scab formation the day after application, fixing what the surgeon left behind. Seven days later the scabs came off leaving cavities. I was wondering why doctors don't give a warranty like I have to do when I repair a computer. 30 days later the wounds have healed over with very little scarring . Cansema did a perfect job but the repercussions of the surgeons knife means my nose and ear still don't work properly Episode Two This is the area of my forehead where the surgeon was going to operate, the greater part was to be removed and a skin graft executed Two weeks before the operation I applied Cansema to the worst parts, this photo shows the scabs which had formed the next day. Seven days later the scabs came off leaving cavities, but much better than the surgeons knife Fourteen days later everything is healing fast with the help of my home grown Aloe Vera. 30 days later the wounds have almost healed over with very little scarring. Cansema has saved me from the embarrassing situation of having an undesirable part of my body stuck on my forehead. I'm also a few thousand dollars in front from the exercise. Today I'm letting nature give shade to some of my face. I'm much happier and wiser about my control over cancer and I want to share my newly gained knowledge that there are alternatives to surgery. * On 15/09/2010 7:30 AM, Jonathan B. Britten wrote: A quick follow-up: looking more closely at Bevan Potter's page, he claims, in an undated letter, to have decided to do the right thing: http://www.bevanpotter.com/Cansema_abandon.html Good for him, if he follows up. His letter sounds sincere, and IF his products really work, more power to him, and indeed to all who sell effective skin-cancer remedies. He's quite right that the basic formula is essentially in the public domain, though clearly he and Caton alike have set out to earn a living from combining and retailing these ingredients. It would be wonderful if Potter's company is able and willing to gather the extensive testimonials and photographic evidence provided by altcancer.com.The resources on that site are really remarkable. Whatever actions are taken against any retailers, people will be able to make their own salves, fortunately. There are several recipes online, and the retail products list their ingredients on the labels. * Here is the entire letter from B. Potter: Cansema Name Change After more then five years of producing Centreforce Cansema Black Salve, we have decided to abandon the name of “Cansema” in our products. There are several problems for us with the Cansema name embedded in our products, the banning of Cansema by the FDA and Customs in the US, the banning of Cansema by the TGA for Human use In Australia and the freezing of our PayPal account until all buttons with the Cansema name were deleted from our web sites. Other problems came as a surprise when the owners
Re: CS black salve /Cansema / Potter site pages, cancer
http://www.centreforce.com/ On the Centreforce link, if you click on Freedom of Choice you get his research and conclusions, mainly on cancer Quote: Over the last twenty years, Western governments (particularly the U.S. Government through its Food Drug Administration) has literally outlawed entire species, even genus, of cancer-fighting herbs. We don't just mean individual products. In some cases, we mean the entire genus of plant, scrub, even tree. In some cases, the outlaw plant, had a centuries-old, proven history of effectiveness. And in the case of chapparel (larrea tridentata, larrea mexicata, and three of species in North America), the FDA action was provoked by the most insignificant of data (in this case that chapparel was hepatotoxic to those with weak livers.) One plant after another has been banned as illegal. At any usage level, using any distillation method, using any part of the plant... period. Bloodroot, pokeroot, chapparel, purple lepacho... and proposed is even red clover! Mysteriously any plant that has shown strong anti-cancer properties has been removed from store shelves and placed on blacklists. And yet the plants that have been banned are those which exhibit the most promise and are empirically the most effective when properly processed. These plants are not banned by legislatures. There are no laws enforcing such bans. These are policy directives, bureaucratic decisions made without any input from the electorate or members of the everyday practicing health care community. These decisions are made by government workers with close ties to the pharmaceutical industry. There is no accountability to the electorate, only to large corporations whose profits in such obscene practices as radiation and chemotherapy treatment must be protected as all costs.
Fwd: Re: CS black salve /Cansema / Potter story and skin cancer experience
Forwarding again, as a couple of posts didn't come through - maybe I didn't put them in plain text. R. http://www.centreforce.com/ From his page My Story (very long!) some extracts: If the Suntan Man was to resume his activities today, and claim that his recipe killed Skin Cancer, he would be arrested for practicing Quack Medicine. You can no longer buy the Salve to fix sunspots, (early Skin Cancer) or buy Apricot Seeds, because they are a banned substance. If you live in the city, you have little option but to eat the very things that are killing people around the world, unless you grow it yourself. In all my travels, and all the sun scorched people I met in those early days, I never met one with skin cancer. Today almost every person I see, is affected with some form of cancer. I have had a pterygium removed, that has left me half blind in one eye. Lesions chopped out of my nose, that prevents me from breathing properly. Lacerations to my eyebrow, chin and ear, that makes me look like I've done too many rounds with Mike Tyson. All of this because I have paid the penalty for my European skin being in the wrong part of the world, or am I in the world at the wrong time in the Evolution of Medicine? Today, I am a Computer Consultant and Programmer, and every day I am amazed, at the advances made in Computer Technology and Evolution of the Computer Chip and Software. Why is it, that Technology has been Developed by man, to automate our lives with Computers to land on the Moon, send a Space Ship to Mars, make a Device that can extinguish everything on Earth - but there is no cure for a simple Skin Cancer? The answer is being here in the wrong time, in the Evolution of Medicine is the biggest cause of all the Cancer related suffering that we are seeing today. The development of a Conventional Cancer Research is stagnant, Doctors are telling us to eat the wrong foods, we are being told lies by Health Authorities, and we are denied the right to choose Alternative Treatment that has been proven to work for years. But I found much more about the Cancer and health Industry and why there are thousands of people needlessly suffering and dying. /*Taken from the introduction to The Healing of Cancer, The Cures-The Cover-ups and the Solution Now! *The cancer establishment now has a 50-year history of vast corruption, incompetence and organized suppression of cancer therapies which actually work. Millions of people have suffered terrible torture and death because those in charge took payoffs, played it safe, had closed minds to the innovative, or simply were afraid to do what was obviously and morally right.. .. .. /I recently purchased Cansema http://health.centreforce.com/health/cansema.html Salve on the Internet, that effectively ate the Lesions right off. The same ones that were previously diagnosed as Basal Cell Carcinoma and Squamous Cell Carcinoma. I applied Aloe Vera over the next few days, and healthy pink skin grew back. Furthermore, the Salve found cancer on the point of incision of the last Surgery. I was stunned, to think that this simple remedy was available and saved me from an Operation, that was considered by my Plastic Surgeon to be more serious than my previous one, involving a substantial Skin Graft. See _photos_ http://health.centreforce.com/health/photo.html I have now used Cansema on more than forty Lesions on my face, neck and arms with one hundred percent success. It digs out Carcinoma and Melanomas without harming the surrounding tissue, which means you can put it on a spot that you might be worried about and if its not Cancerous it will do nothing, seems to be the perfect solution. The exercise of actually doing it is quick and easy. Put a dab on the spot, leave it for the night, wash it off in the morning and you have a scab that falls off in a few days with the dead Cancer in tact, all you have in place of the Cancer is a clean hole that heals over with new Skin in a few weeks. Without the Internet, I would never have known about this, and all the other health giving things that are available in other parts of the world, because our Freedom of Choice has been taken away from us, we are unable to purchase them any other way. Of course, one can eat what one grows and one can sell what one grows, but it is illegal for one to sell what one grows and claim that it kills cancer. These are the reasons most people in our country will never know about life saving Alternative Medical Cures. Recently my Brother died of Lung Cancer. When he was diagnosed with only a few months to live, I asked him why he didn't want to go to hospital. He told me, that if he went to hospital they would only _use him to experiment,_ and he would rather die at home, than be used for their useless purposes. He had seen first hand, the treatment his friends received while dying in hospitals. If
Re: CSinfected gland/cyst, ideas
At 07:17 PM 9/14/2010 -0500, you wrote: I was wondering about zapping it somehow. I do have a TENS machine on hand. If I could re-purpose that? Go to the Shack and get a 200 volt rated diode [about $1 ], put that in line with one of the electrode leads to convert BiPhasic [AC] to pulsed DC...adjust frequency for pulse width current control and/or current level [intensity dial], for comfort and to prevent electro-chemical build up irritation and burns. You now have a pulse modulated Zapper. Use a strip of Litmus paper [pharmacy or science supply] to determine which electrode is producing the acid electro-chemical similar to MMS and which is basic. To kill germs, I'd put the acid [Hypochloruous acid..similar to MMS] producing electrode directly over the spot and the base [Sodium Hydroxide] on the opposite side of the limb, if possible. Chemical buildup in the skin can be neutralized by switching the polarity of the electrodes. If you are brave, you can insert a needle probe right into the gland and more closely target the problem area a lot faster with less current. If it's a silver [or silver plated] probe or electrode, you make silver ions on site, which also kills germs. [If the acid side is positiveand I think it is.] If not drained, a localized internal infection probably will form a cyst as the body encapsulates what it can't eliminate. If it's close to the surface, soaking and cupping [making a vacuum in a cup by cooling hot air] will bring it to the surface where you can cut it open with a razor blade to empty it and pull the encapsulating sack out with tweezers. Ice does a pretty good job of numbing the area. [Or hit the street for some cocaine ? Common use before Novacaine...or Procain like in sunburn sprays. ] I've removed 2 encapsulated boils and a fatty cyst made around road rash gravel that way..had that road rash cyst for 25 years right where my belt would irritate it. Doctor wanted $500 [back in the 80s ] to do what I did in ten minutes for nothing. I actually told him For $500, I'll cut it out my own danged self !! ..he didn't say not, just looked at me funny...like... SURE you will. [And sent me a bill for $80 just to look at it for 1 minute...which I didn't pay..the turkey. $10, I'da paid, even though that's $600 an hour...$900+ in todays money. ] Well, I DID...and it wasn't nearly as bad as I thought it would be...after the initial [hold your breath and JUST DO IT ] slash. ..the rest was EASY and painless. [Minor Shock can be handy? ] I've been cut much worse before and no big deal...doing that to yourself, on purpose, is a touch weird. I can spell hesitation in all capitals. There are times when having a sadistic friend is a plus...or ex soldiers that got used to cutting people up? ..that's where I learned how. A Nam combat Vet cupped and cut a boil out of my back in the parking lot of the motorcycle shop...learned it from the locals in Nam. People that jump out of perfectly good airplanes shouldn't have those problems. Ode Open to ideas, as I said. This is a first for me. Once I got over being freaked out I had developed some cancerous growth I calmed down enough to do some research, but nothing is very helpful on alternative, natural remedies other than sitz baths and that they seem to mostly recommend for cyst phase - which I apparently skipped or never noticed - abscess phase does not sound like it resolves on its own well. :-( On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 7:09 PM, needling around mailto:ptf2...@bellsouth.netptf2...@bellsouth.net wrote: You are right, you do not have an STD. But what you have is very painful. If the combined expertise of this list can come up with an alternative treatment they will be helping womankind take a giant step forward. I would research Ode's CS gel base and perhaps Renee's MMS and then the many versions of a zapper to kill the pathogen. Best of luck and please let us know what happens. PT - Original Message - From: mailto:jaxi.sch...@gmail.comjaxi To: mailto:silver-list@eskimo.comsilver-list@eskimo.com ; mailto:dimethylsulfoxide-d...@yahoogroups.comdimethylsulfoxide-d...@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2010 7:50 PM Subject: CSinfected gland/cyst, ideas I have an infected gland in the genital area. I have read what the medical establishment's solution would be - which would be to drain it, put in a catheter, possible antibiotics, possible surgical procedure to create a permanent opening for drainage ... none of this sounds very fun to me. You all have a lot on knowledge and info. Any ideas on a dmso, CS, or other alternative method of addressing this? I plan to do some baths/soaks, but no idea topically if anything might help. The gland is called the bartholin's gland - I currently have an abscess - as indicated by inflammation and rather significant pain. I do NOT have an STD. Jaxi -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for
Re: CSTumor reduction
Voltage is not current. One of the electro-chemicals produced this way is Sodium Hydroxidewhich dissolves fat and oils making a water soluble substancesoap. New era in lipsuction? Ode At 07:39 AM 9/14/2010 -0500, you wrote: Wow, another interesting story. I'm guessing you had to cut his hair in the places where you placed the electrodes? What device did you use? Alan On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 10:54 PM, Bob Banever mailto:bbane...@earthlink.netbbane...@earthlink.net wrote: Renee, That's great news. Keep up the program and let us know what happens. My dog, a 14 year old Bichon Frise, had a tumor on the side of his neck. Since it was always fairly soft and moveble (not fixed) I figured it was a fatty tumor. Nevertheless, I decided one day to treat it using DC electricity. I put electrodes on both sides of the tumor, top and bottom, and turned the device up to 3 volts DC current. No sensation was felt by Max... but within two weeks the tumor had shrunk by more than half, where it remains today just a small lump of fatty tissue. I only treated him once. Just another approach to a problem I thought I'd relay to the board. Bob -- Alan Jones The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people. (Tenth Amendment to the US Constitution) -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CShelp needed Skin cancer - black salve or chickweed
Well, maybe it's banned here in the US, as he's back in prison now. I've tried every which way to get in, and can't. Even on another computer. Samala, Renee ---Original Message--- Hi Renee, I can access that from here, South Africa.
Re: CSTumor reduction
Unactivated MMS, rarely used, is simply the drops from an MMS bottle and no acid added to the drops. It can be used straight from the bottle for burns (But must be washed off in 30 seconds) and some people have put a few drops of straight MMS into a liter of water and sipped on that all day (which tends to be exactly what stabilized oxygen is--just harder to say exactly what percentage of sodium chlorite you are getting this way). Activated MMS is when you take drops of MMS from the bottle, add some form of acid, wait 3 minutes for it to 'activate'. Because Jim Humble always used just MMS for both straight and activated, it was very confusing to some people. I was trying to explain it to a German friend of mine and she just couldn't get his book, and his calling it all simply MMS, whether he meant activated or not. So I took to calling the activated (with acid added) as AMMS, and unactivated as simply MMS. Then she could understand. So a few people picked up the AMMS, but of course, not any of the followers of Jim. So it's still all out there as MMS, whether they are talking about activated or non-activated. It can be confusing. I wish they'd all pick up the AMMS designation just to make it easier for people new to MMS. Samala, Renee ---Original Message--- Can anyone explain a little the difference between 'activated and 'unactivated' MMS? I understand how to do it but I don't know how to discriminate when to use one versus the other.
Re: CShelp needed Skin cancer - black salve or chickweed
John, our site map here in the US on the herbhealers.com site only refers back to the sales pages. Clicking each item does bring up a bit more information but nothing at all like the old alpha labs site. Plus, previously I had purchased H3o from them. That is no longer available I see If I search for it, all that comes up is the toothpaste. It seems the big bottles of straight H3o are no longer available. Samala, Renee ---Original Message--- You may wish to check with the company, and also contact the Electronic Freedom Frontier if you think the site is being blocked or censored.
Re: CShelp needed Skin cancer - black salve or chickweed
That's probably why you and Tony can access the alpha site and we can't. If someone could check and see if they still have all the info on the H3o, and copy that for me, I would appreciate it. I bought H3o when they brought it back (it was gone for a while) but didn't get around to copying the health info on it--because I stupidly thought it would always be there and I d 'get it later' I should have known better. sigh Samala, Renee ---Original Message--- Japan.
Re: CShelp needed Skin cancer - black salve or chickweed
Nope, even an educational web site talking about medicinal uses of products cannot be made by you if you sell the products. In some cases, you are not even allowed to link to an educational site you do not own!!! It's getting to be Hitler's Germany over here, as far as health information goes. A lady I know owns a neem company and they made her take the medicinal info down about neem. So she linked to a NON-us site about it (which she did not own), and they made her take that link down, too. She complied with what they 'required' though there's no law about it--simply because she did not want the harassment they are willing to meet out, and she knows that one way or another they would eventually shut her down if she did not comply. Same way as they (FDA/FBI) went and kidnapped the owner of the alpha labs from south America and hustled him back to the states for more prison time. Samala, Renee ---Original Message--- The can, however, set up an educational website.
RE: CSinfected gland/cyst, ideas. . . .Bartholin Cyst Natural Remedy
Jaxi, I googled Bartholin Cyst Natural Remedies and came up with this. It looks promising. The only contraindication is to NOT use if you are pregnant. http://ezinearticles.com/?Bartholin-Cyst-Essential-Oil-Treatment http://ezinearticles.com/?Bartholin-Cyst-Essential-Oil-Treatmentid=1330414 id=1330414 or use the tinyurl below http://tinyurl.com/2bxrqm6 From: jaxi [mailto:jaxi.sch...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2010 4:50 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com; dimethylsulfoxide-d...@yahoogroups.com Subject: CSinfected gland/cyst, ideas I have an infected gland in the genital area. I have read what the medical establishment's solution would be - which would be to drain it, put in a catheter, possible antibiotics, possible surgical procedure to create a permanent opening for drainage ... none of this sounds very fun to me. You all have a lot on knowledge and info. Any ideas on a dmso, CS, or other alternative method of addressing this? I plan to do some baths/soaks, but no idea topically if anything might help. The gland is called the bartholin's gland - I currently have an abscess - as indicated by inflammation and rather significant pain. I do NOT have an STD. Jaxi
Re: CSinfected gland/cyst, ideas
The only gland I am aware of in that area is a lymph gland. If that is the case then a magnetic pulser is what you want to use. CS does not make it into the lymph system from what I understand. Marshall jaxi wrote: I have an infected gland in the genital area. I have read what the medical establishment's solution would be - which would be to drain it, put in a catheter, possible antibiotics, possible surgical procedure to create a permanent opening for drainage ... none of this sounds very fun to me. You all have a lot on knowledge and info. Any ideas on a dmso, CS, or other alternative method of addressing this? I plan to do some baths/soaks, but no idea topically if anything might help. The gland is called the bartholin's gland - I currently have an abscess - as indicated by inflammation and rather significant pain. I do NOT have an STD. Jaxi -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CShelp needed Skin cancer - black salve or chickweed
Yes.., I think several of us would like that info :-) _ From: Renee [mailto:gaiac...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2010 10:52 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CShelp needed Skin cancer - black salve or chickweed That's probably why you and Tony can access the alpha site and we can't. If someone could check and see if they still have all the info on the H3o, and copy that for me, I would appreciate it. I bought H3o when they brought it back (it was gone for a while) but didn't get around to copying the health info on it--because I stupidly thought it would always be there and I'd 'get it later' I should have known better. sigh Samala, Renee ---Original Message--- Japan.
RE: CSinfected gland/cyst, ideas
Ode that's cool! Although I admit -- I'd need step by step instructions on how to build a modified pulse modulated Zapper (I can be dense that way). I have not yet built a zapper just for that reason...though I know how well they can work! -Original Message- From: Ode Coyote [mailto:odecoy...@windstream.net] Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2010 7:23 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSinfected gland/cyst, ideas At 07:17 PM 9/14/2010 -0500, you wrote: I was wondering about zapping it somehow. I do have a TENS machine on hand. If I could re-purpose that? Go to the Shack and get a 200 volt rated diode [about $1 ], put that in line with one of the electrode leads to convert BiPhasic [AC] to pulsed DC...adjust frequency for pulse width current control and/or current level [intensity dial], for comfort and to prevent electro-chemical build up irritation and burns. You now have a pulse modulated Zapper. [trimmed] -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSinfected gland/cyst, ideas
How would I use the litmus? Set up the electrodes on me elsewhere and run for how long and then test each site? They don't run unless there is a completed circuit unless that diode would override that somehow. Jaxi On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 6:22 AM, Ode Coyote odecoy...@windstream.netwrote: At 07:17 PM 9/14/2010 -0500, you wrote: I was wondering about zapping it somehow. I do have a TENS machine on hand. If I could re-purpose that? Go to the Shack and get a 200 volt rated diode [about $1 ], put that in line with one of the electrode leads to convert BiPhasic [AC] to pulsed DC...adjust frequency for pulse width current control and/or current level [intensity dial], for comfort and to prevent electro-chemical build up irritation and burns. You now have a pulse modulated Zapper. Use a strip of Litmus paper [pharmacy or science supply] to determine which electrode is producing the acid electro-chemical similar to MMS and which is basic. To kill germs, I'd put the acid [Hypochloruous acid..similar to MMS] producing electrode directly over the spot and the base [Sodium Hydroxide] on the opposite side of the limb, if possible. Chemical buildup in the skin can be neutralized by switching the polarity of the electrodes. If you are brave, you can insert a needle probe right into the gland and more closely target the problem area a lot faster with less current. If it's a silver [or silver plated] probe or electrode, you make silver ions on site, which also kills germs. [If the acid side is positiveand I think it is.] If not drained, a localized internal infection probably will form a cyst as the body encapsulates what it can't eliminate. If it's close to the surface, soaking and cupping [making a vacuum in a cup by cooling hot air] will bring it to the surface where you can cut it open with a razor blade to empty it and pull the encapsulating sack out with tweezers. Ice does a pretty good job of numbing the area. [Or hit the street for some cocaine ? Common use before Novacaine...or Procain like in sunburn sprays. ] I've removed 2 encapsulated boils and a fatty cyst made around road rash gravel that way..had that road rash cyst for 25 years right where my belt would irritate it. Doctor wanted $500 [back in the 80s ] to do what I did in ten minutes for nothing. I actually told him For $500, I'll cut it out my own danged self !! ..he didn't say not, just looked at me funny...like... SURE you will. [And sent me a bill for $80 just to look at it for 1 minute...which I didn't pay..the turkey. $10, I'da paid, even though that's $600 an hour...$900+ in todays money. ] Well, I DID...and it wasn't nearly as bad as I thought it would be...after the initial [hold your breath and JUST DO IT ] slash. ..the rest was EASY and painless. [Minor Shock can be handy? ] I've been cut much worse before and no big deal...doing that to yourself, on purpose, is a touch weird. I can spell hesitation in all capitals. There are times when having a sadistic friend is a plus...or ex soldiers that got used to cutting people up? ..that's where I learned how. A Nam combat Vet cupped and cut a boil out of my back in the parking lot of the motorcycle shop...learned it from the locals in Nam. People that jump out of perfectly good airplanes shouldn't have those problems. Ode Open to ideas, as I said. This is a first for me. Once I got over being freaked out I had developed some cancerous growth I calmed down enough to do some research, but nothing is very helpful on alternative, natural remedies other than sitz baths and that they seem to mostly recommend for cyst phase - which I apparently skipped or never noticed - abscess phase does not sound like it resolves on its own well. :-( On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 7:09 PM, needling around mailto: ptf2...@bellsouth.netptf2...@bellsouth.net wrote: You are right, you do not have an STD. But what you have is very painful. If the combined expertise of this list can come up with an alternative treatment they will be helping womankind take a giant step forward. I would research Ode's CS gel base and perhaps Renee's MMS and then the many versions of a zapper to kill the pathogen. Best of luck and please let us know what happens. PT - Original Message - From: mailto:jaxi.sch...@gmail.comjaxi To: mailto:silver-list@eskimo.comsilver-list@eskimo.com ; mailto: dimethylsulfoxide-d...@yahoogroups.com dimethylsulfoxide-d...@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2010 7:50 PM Subject: CSinfected gland/cyst, ideas I have an infected gland in the genital area. I have read what the medical establishment's solution would be - which would be to drain it, put in a catheter, possible antibiotics, possible surgical procedure to create a permanent opening for drainage ... none of this sounds very fun to me. You all have a lot on knowledge and info. Any ideas on a dmso, CS, or other
Re: CSinfected gland/cyst, ideas. . . .Bartholin Cyst Natural Remedy
Well that seems easy enough to try. I did an epsom salt sitz bath last night. Plus put some EIS/DMSO (90/10) on it. Was a little leary of the DMSO given the location but it didn't hurt/sting. It is actually slightly less painful today. I also hot packed it last night, which was odd feeling but you do what you have to do. Jaxi On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 9:58 AM, s...@emotap.com wrote: Jaxi, I googled Bartholin Cyst Natural Remedies and came up with this. It looks promising. The only contraindication is to NOT use if you are pregnant. http://ezinearticles.com/?Bartholin-Cyst-Essential-Oil-Treatmentid=1330414 or use the tinyurl below *http://tinyurl.com/2bxrqm6* *From:* jaxi [mailto:jaxi.sch...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Tuesday, September 14, 2010 4:50 PM *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com; dimethylsulfoxide-d...@yahoogroups.com *Subject:* CSinfected gland/cyst, ideas I have an infected gland in the genital area. I have read what the medical establishment's solution would be - which would be to drain it, put in a catheter, possible antibiotics, possible surgical procedure to create a permanent opening for drainage ... none of this sounds very fun to me. You all have a lot on knowledge and info. Any ideas on a dmso, CS, or other alternative method of addressing this? I plan to do some baths/soaks, but no idea topically if anything might help. The gland is called the bartholin's gland - I currently have an abscess - as indicated by inflammation and rather significant pain. I do NOT have an STD. Jaxi
RE: CShelp needed Skin cancer - black salve or chickweed
That's probably why you and Tony can access the alpha site and we can't. Jon wrote: Japan. Okay, can somebody come up with SIMPLE instructions for us so Renee can try browsing the site using an offshore proxy and see what she's not being allowed to see from inside the US? That'd be a fun experiment and a useful skill for us all to develop. I'd love to hear her report... Be well, Mike D. [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSLupus, cancer, arthritis etc. autoimmune? or bugs having lunch?
In a message dated 9/15/2010 1:08:49 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, new...@internode.on.net writes: Dr Jerry Tennant An Understanding of How the body Works http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qMrgqXs9FZAfeature=related This is just a quick transcription with lots of holes in it, so please watch the videos on this page! DR Glenn Gordon must have read Tennant's book as he told me about the same thing. Except the low level infrared laser directs your body to send oxygen to the point where the laser beam is directed. He said your cells use oxygen as a fuel and die off when the oxygen level drops too low. I guess the oxygen drink using MMS is required so you have some oxygen to send. I have been treating all kinds of problems with just the laser itself. It does not seem to do that much for my recent knee replacement. I have a lot of edema swelling. Been trying the re bounder with only one leg to try to get rid of extra lymph. Brickey
Re: CShelp needed Skin cancer - black salve or chickweed
Ohhh ... I wanna do that too. So if you figure out how please pass the info along. I find it exceedingly annoying to be censored and limited like this. Jaxi On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 9:24 AM, M. G. Devour mdev...@eskimo.com wrote: That's probably why you and Tony can access the alpha site and we can't. Jon wrote: Japan. Okay, can somebody come up with SIMPLE instructions for us so Renee can try browsing the site using an offshore proxy and see what she's not being allowed to see from inside the US? That'd be a fun experiment and a useful skill for us all to develop. I'd love to hear her report... Be well, Mike D. [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
CSSilver- organic/inorganic?
List, One of my respected colleagues recently wrote the following about colloidal silver: It usually does not muscle test as good for people. It certainly is an effective pathogen killer. On the other hand, it is not in an organic form and it does not appear to be a nutrient in the metallic form. The body may treat it as a toxic metal. My understanding is that organic versus inorganic means that a mineral is BOUND to something else. However, I also know that silver is not metallic in the sense I think he is using the term. I would think that the EIS we all make is more ELEMENTAL silver. Besides, according to my research, silver is an essential nutrient-though it's unclear in what form it must be in order for the body to use it as an essential nutrient. Can someone who is better versed in chemistry than I am please comment? Thanks. Nenah
Re: CSTurpentine, Vitamin E and Healing
Not really sure. Turpentine is antimicrobial and antifungal and may be sufficient to preserve the Vitamin E. But since turpentine is not water miscible, you can't add CS. One possibility to insure a long shelf life could be to add a small amount of oregano or rosemary essential oil to the mix. - Steve -Original Message- From: needling around [mailto:ptf2...@bellsouth.net] Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2010 12:40 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSTurpentine, Vitamin E and Healing Any idea what the shelf life is? Is it something that has to be made up each time or can one make up a small bottle and then keep it refrigerated? Thanks. PT - Original Message - From: Norton, Steve stephen.nor...@ngc.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2010 12:09 PM Subject: CSTurpentine, Vitamin E and Healing Resend Just FYI, here is a patent discussing the healing potential of turpentine when combined with Vitamin E. - Steve N http://www.freepatentsonline.com/4784842.html Therapeutic composition for treatment of cuts, burns and abrasions -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CShelp needed Skin cancer - black salve or chickweed
As far as I can tell she is seeing what I am seeing. Just the product page. You can see what their site looked like 2 years ago here: http://web.archive.org/web/20080804114224/http://www.altcancer.com/ And if they are doing anything different outside the US you can often use this trick. Google altcancer.com, then click on the cached copy in the listing. That will be what Google got when they spidered it from the US. Marshall M. G. Devour wrote: That's probably why you and Tony can access the alpha site and we can't. Jon wrote: Japan. Okay, can somebody come up with SIMPLE instructions for us so Renee can try browsing the site using an offshore proxy and see what she's not being allowed to see from inside the US? That'd be a fun experiment and a useful skill for us all to develop. I'd love to hear her report... Be well, Mike D. [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
CSOil soluble silver compounds
Does anyone know of oil soluble silver compounds that could be used as a preservative in oil based solutions and also be suitable for ingestion? Thanks, Steve N -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CShelp needed Skin cancer - black salve or chickweed
Hi Renee, I sent you three files. Sitemap and the H03 page and another. I have to go now Please copy that to those that requested it from me on the site. I'm gone out of here., Tony On 15 Sep 2010 at 9:52, Renee wrote about : Subject : Re: CShelp needed Skin cancer - bl That's probablywhy you and Tony can access the alpha site and we can't. If someone could check and see if they still have all the info on the H3o, and copy that for me, I would appreciate it. I bought H3o when they brought it back (it was gone for a while) but didn't get around to copying the health info on it--because I stupidly thought it would always be there and I'd 'get it later' I should have known better. sigh Samala, Renee ---Original Message--- Japan. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSSilver- organic/inorganic?
And in your comment would you explain why East Indians have been eating silver foil for thousands of years without any harm that I know of? Thanks. PT - Original Message - From: Nenah Sylver To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2010 2:43 PM Subject: CSSilver- organic/inorganic? List, One of my respected colleagues recently wrote the following about colloidal silver: It usually does not muscle test as good for people. It certainly is an effective pathogen killer. On the other hand, it is not in an organic form and it does not appear to be a nutrient in the metallic form. The body may treat it as a toxic metal. My understanding is that organic versus inorganic means that a mineral is BOUND to something else. However, I also know that silver is not metallic in the sense I think he is using the term. I would think that the EIS we all make is more ELEMENTAL silver. Besides, according to my research, silver is an essential nutrient-though it's unclear in what form it must be in order for the body to use it as an essential nutrient. Can someone who is better versed in chemistry than I am please comment? Thanks. Nenah
Re: CShelp needed Skin cancer - black salve or chickweed
Will do. Thanks Tony. ---Original Message--- Hi Renee, I sent you three files. Sitemap and the H03 page and another. I have to go now Please copy that to those that requested it from me on the site.
RE: CShelp needed Skin cancer - black salve or chickweed
Anyone that wanted what Tony sent me, please ask again so I can forward it to you. I have deleted those emails. I did look at the wayback machine for alpha omega labs, as Marshall suggested, and found their H3o information. But I dodn't know if in the 2 years they have updated it so will compare what Tony sent me to that one later on this evening. At one point they could not sell H3o in the US, then when they went to s. America the started making it again, and I ordered it, along with some tinctures. At the time the h3o and the cansema came from SA and later the tinctures came from here in the US. So they have a US distributor, but was--at that time--also sending things from SA, things not allowed to be sold in the US I guess. Now apparently they are not even being allowed to send stuff from SA anymore, as we are being denied access to the SA site!!! And here I thought only China censored the Internet! If anyone figures out a way around this, I would love to 'take it for a spin and report back here what I can see. Samala, Renee ---Original Message--- Okay, can somebody come up with SIMPLE instructions for us so Renee can try browsing the site using an offshore proxy and see what she's not being allowed to see from inside the US? That'd be a fun experiment and a useful skill for us all to develop. I'd love to hear her report...
RE: CShelp needed Skin cancer - black salve or chickweed
How about TOR? They use out of country servers. http://www.torproject.org/ Chuck When grasping at straws, any straw will do. On 9/15/2010 10:19:48 AM, M. G. Devour (mdev...@eskimo.com) wrote: That's probably why you and Tony can access the alpha site and we can't. Jon wrote: Japan. Okay, can somebody come up with SIMPLE instructions for us so Renee can try browsing the site using an offshore proxy and see what she's not being allowed to see from inside the US? That'd be a fun experiment and a useful skill for us all to develop. I'd love to hear her report... Be well, Mike D. [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CShelp needed Skin cancer - black salve or chickweed
I'll have to check that out from home. My government work computer blocked the site. *arches eyebrow* Jaxi On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 4:37 PM, cking...@nycap.rr.com wrote: How about TOR? They use out of country servers. http://www.torproject.org/ Chuck When grasping at straws, any straw will do. On 9/15/2010 10:19:48 AM, M. G. Devour (mdev...@eskimo.com) wrote: That's probably why you and Tony can access the alpha site and we can't. Jon wrote: Japan. Okay, can somebody come up with SIMPLE instructions for us so Renee can try browsing the site using an offshore proxy and see what she's not being allowed to see from inside the US? That'd be a fun experiment and a useful skill for us all to develop. I'd love to hear her report... Be well, Mike D. [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subjectunsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CShelp needed Skin cancer - black salve or chickweed
Go to the wayback machine: http://web.archive.org/collections/web/advanced.html Enter www.altcancer.com This what you want? Chuck When in doubt, do what the President does, guess On 9/15/2010 10:52:13 AM, Renee (gaiac...@gmail.com) wrote: That's probably why you and Tony can access the alpha site and we can't. If someone could check and see if they still have all the info on the H3o, and copy that for me, I would appreciate it. I bought H3o when they brought it back (it was gone for a while) but didn't get around to copying the health info on it--because I stupidly thought it would always be there and I'd 'get it later' I should have known better. sigh Samala, Renee ---Original Message--- Japan. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSOil soluble silver compounds
combine the two with an emulsifier? Lecithin? Chuck When talking nonsense try not to be serious. On 9/15/2010 3:55:31 PM, Norton, Steve (stephen.nor...@ngc.com) wrote: Does anyone know of oil soluble silver compounds that could be used as a preservative in oil based solutions and also be suitable for ingestion? Thanks, Steve N -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CShelp needed Skin cancer - black salve or chickweed
It may that altcancer made a deal with the authorities to keep certain information off the site in order to be able to vend the product. I don't know; it's just speculation. On Wednesday, Sep 15, 2010, at 23:34 Asia/Tokyo, Renee wrote: Well, maybe it's banned here in the US, as he's back in prison now. I've tried every which way to get in, and can't. Even on another computer. Samala, Renee ---Original Message--- Hi Renee, I can access that from here, South Africa. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CShelp needed Skin cancer - black salve or chickweed
This is similar to the current site as accessed from outside the USA. On Thursday, Sep 16, 2010, at 04:52 Asia/Tokyo, Marshall Dudley wrote: As far as I can tell she is seeing what I am seeing. Just the product page. You can see what their site looked like 2 years ago here: http://web.archive.org/web/20080804114224/http://www.altcancer.com/ And if they are doing anything different outside the US you can often use this trick. Google altcancer.com, then click on the cached copy in the listing. That will be what Google got when they spidered it from the US. Marshall M. G. Devour wrote: That's probably why you and Tony can access the alpha site and we can't. Jon wrote: Japan. Okay, can somebody come up with SIMPLE instructions for us so Renee can try browsing the site using an offshore proxy and see what she's not being allowed to see from inside the US? That'd be a fun experiment and a useful skill for us all to develop. I'd love to hear her report... Be well, Mike D. [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
CSCS with H2O2 inventor found?
I came across this at the Earth Clinic site and thought it might be of interest. - Steve N http://www.earthclinic.com/Supplements/colloidal_silver_questions.html Ted from Bangkok, Thailand replies: Agyria is a common problem with using a straight batch of colloidal silver, often the skin is not really blue, it is closer to gray color. The problem occurs when a free silver ions react with the sulfur in your body to from AgS, or silver sulfide. Most colloidal silver produced are actually either a nonreactive Ag or a reactive Ag with a charge, then it reacts with the body's available sulfur to cause a blue skin, more more accurately is gray skin. This problem can be prevented, which I solved over a decade ago, which required that a couple of drops of hydrogen peroxide is added to a liter of colloidal silver. The peroxide, reacts with the FREE silver ions to form Silver Oxide. When I first add this, I get a cloudly solution, and after three days, this cloudy solution becomes a clear white transparent water. However, an unreacted Ag or Silver in a solution will show itself is a faint yellow transparent solution. So this ia an easy way to tell. If you add a drop of H2O2 into this it becomes cloudy. However, if the solution is Silver oxide, it won't become cloudy as there is no longer any free silver ions. When they are no longer free, it won't react with the body's sulfur to form silver oxide. Hence, if a hydrogen peroxide, at least, is added to the colloidal silver you buy, the silver is no longer free, and the condition of blue skin or gray skin or agyria is prevented. However, there is ANOTHER way, that DOES NOT REQUIRE you to wait for three days to fully digest the free Silver. When I make a batch of colloidal silver, using the silver wire or silver rods as an electrode using any D.C. adapter, the BEGINNING solution is distilled water with a 0.5% H2O2 concentration, which is 1/2 percent H2O2 concentration, or approximate amount such as one tablespoon (plastic spoons!) of 3% H2O2 in a 1 or 1.5 liter of colloidal silver is generally sufficient, to prevent any free metal silver form occuring. It should be noted that a silver oxide may have a better antibacterial properties and less staining problems then the use of pure silver. So in practice, the use of COLLOIDAL SILVER OXIDE, is the one I actually use and relatively problem free. For example, if a free silver has too much charges, I have noted that constipation occurs if taken too much of colloidal silver with FREE SILVER, but this doesn't happen (within reason such as NOT DRINKING liters of it!) if a COLLOIDAL silver oxide is prepared. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
CSWhat is to come: medicinal herbs to disappear, in Europe by April 2011, when will USA follow?
http://www.gaia-health.com/articles301/000301-big-pharma-scores-big-win-medicinal-herbs-disappear-eu.shtml http://www.chineseherb.co.uk/index.php?main_page=pageid=101 Virtually all medicinal herbs will be banned in Europe from April 2011 onwards. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSOil soluble silver compounds
That may be the best solution. Maybe ethyl alcohol or dmso as well. - Steve N -Original Message- From: cking...@nycap.rr.com [mailto:cking...@nycap.rr.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2010 3:07 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSOil soluble silver compounds combine the two with an emulsifier? Lecithin? Chuck When talking nonsense try not to be serious. On 9/15/2010 3:55:31 PM, Norton, Steve (stephen.nor...@ngc.com) wrote: Does anyone know of oil soluble silver compounds that could be used as a preservative in oil based solutions and also be suitable for ingestion? Thanks, Steve N -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
CSPotter on Bioelectro Medicine Part 1
Bevan Potter has several pages on health subjects on the right of the centreforce site. http://www.centreforce.com/ This is taken from one of those pages: Bioelectro Medicine There are a number of devices that use *specialized electric fields* to alter the function or condition of targeted tissue, organisms, or cells within the body. These electric fields can be programmed to promote the healing of healthy tissue or inhibit the growth of undesired organisms. Where there are electric fields , there are also *magnetic fields*, usually rotated at 90 degress to each other. The interplay of the electric and magnetic fields play a role in this therapy, but the frequency, the shape of the wave, the duration and polarity of the pulse, etc., all play into the mix and can make the difference between success or failure depending on the care and attention given to these parameters. This is not necessarily a new technology. At the turn of the 19th century, *Nikola Tesla* patented many Electro-inventions that demonstrated incredible health-promoting attributes; some of them based on the use of his high frequency, high voltage DC pulse generator circuits which produced a new ether-derived form of energy called Radiant Energy http://educate-yourself.org/fe/radiantenergystory.shtml. Tesla had even patented a highly efficient cold plasma ozone generator by 1893. Dr. Royal Rife In the late 20's and early 1930's, *Dr.* *Royal Raymond Rife* from San Diego, California, developed a high powered microscope which he used in conjunction with a frequency generator. Using special UV light, Rife's mircroscope was capable of 60,000x magnification! This degree of magnification allowed him to observe LIVE virus and bacteria organisms while he applied the *MOR* (Mortal Oscillatory Resonance) frequency from his frequency generator via plasma tube radiation of the energy. He was able to destroy all manner of disease organisms (including cancer related organisms) by merely /'tuning' /the generator to the correct resonant frequency of these organisms and applying the oscillating electric fields via the plasma driven, Beam Ray Tube. Everything in the universe, living or dead, and its own *resonant frequency*. If you apply this exact resonant frequency to the object or organism, it will begin vibrating until it literally shatters itself. You've all seen the wine glass and the opera singer demonstration. Same deal for microbes. 60,000x magnifications is an unheard of degree of magnification in a light microscope, even by today's technical standards. Today's electron microscope can deliver high magnification, but it can only view DEAD organisms. The ability to view micro organims in a LIVING state is of great importance to diagnostic and therapeutic goals. This is an _extremely important point_ to understand. Rife's microscope played no role in the actual destruction of the pathogenic organisms, but it allowed him to view the effects of the electric fields from the Beam Ray Tube upon the organism itself. As Rife adjusted and tuned his frequency generator to the correct frequency, he was able to observe the disintegration of the bacteria, parasite, or virii under the influence of the resonant electro-magnetic fields exerted by the Beam Ray Tube. At first, Rife's enormous accomplishments were ballyhooed in the press. He was feted and hosted by the local medical elites of the day who were hoping to climb onto the Glory Bandwagon with him and get their mug published in the newspaper as a supporter and cohort of the man who could finally end cancer. But the /Big Boys/ finally caught up with him. I'm referring to the string pullers in organized medicine and the pharmaceutical industry. Needless to say, once word of Rife's success began to spread too wide, he was quickly 'neutralized' by organized medicine and demoralized into obscurity (unending court litigation, charges of quakery, intimidation of financial supporters, the burning down of laboratories, etc...the usual' routine). His principle persecutor was the head of the American Medical Association and chief editor of the/ Journal of the American Medical Association/. His name was Dr. Morris Fishbein http://educate-yourself.org/cn/morrisfishbein05feb02.shtml and he never treated a patient in his life. He was motivated more by an unmitigated lust for greed and power, and less by a desire to save lives. Failing to convince Rife to sell him the exclusive rights to his technique and therapy, Fishbein set out to crush Rife with a vengence. The outrageous injustices against Rife by Fishbein and the medical establishment are explained in great depth in a book by Barry Lynes called/ The Cancer Cure That Worked/. Fortunately, we have physicist Gary Wade http://educate-yourself.org/gw/index.shtml, a specialist in Rife technology, available to readers of this web site. He will explain to you /exactly/ how Rife achieved his amazing results and how YOU can learn how to apply Rife's hard
CSPotter Bioelectro Medicine 2
Bevan Potter has several pages on health subjects in the right hand column of the centreforce site. http://www.centreforce.com/ This is Part 2 taken from one of those pages: Bob Beck Rescues Lakhovsky's MWO from Obscurity In the early 60's, *Dr Bob Beck *found an original Lakhovsky Multi-Wave Oscillator in the basement of a well known southern California hospital. He took it apart and described exactly how it was built in a series of articles published by /Borderlands/ in 1963. After Beck's articles were published, a number of builders began to assemble MWO's and the word started to spread. Two MWO builders who lived on the west coast, using the information contained in Beck articles, began making and selling a lot of Multi Wave Oscillators. Apparently they worked fairly well because the FDA got word of the MWO's growing popularity and told Beck to come to Washington. Beck and the two builders were told to lay off promoting the MWO and stop building them. They were told in no uncertain terms to cease and desist immediately ...or else. Beck and one of the MWO builders, Ed Skillings*,* complied, but the second builder, Ralph Bergstresser, was determined to keep going, so he actually formed a church dedicated to the worship of the MWO. Yes, you read that correctly. And, for a couple of years at least, his 'parishioners' were able to come to church, sit around the MWO-perched high atop an altar, with resonator antennas glowing - and received the 'blessed waves' from the Sacred Oscillator. It helped a lot of church goers, until the 'pastor' was finally thrown into the slammer by the Feds and had his modern version of the Ark of the Covenant hauled away. He got out after a couple of years, but still went on building MWO's anyway, distributing them through underground sources. Many present day owners of properly working MWO's are either using units built by or copies of the pastor's work (now why isn't there an /Oscar/ category reserved for a guy like that?). Blood-Electrificationhttp://educate-yourself.org/be/ In recent years, different electro-medicine units have been promoted at health expos and through magazine articles, interviews, books, etc.. One of the more interesting devices is the *blood electrifier *of *Dr Bob Beck*. I've seen laboratory reports and Institutional Review Board studies that seem to clearly support claims made by Dr BobBeck that his blood electrification device has caused 'complete spontaneous remission' in literally thousands of AIDS patients, cancer patients, and chronic fatigue sufferers among others. Dr Beck discovered the possibilities offered by blood electrification http://educate-yourself.org/fc/fcbbeck1.shtml after reading a short article in *1991* in a journal called *Science News*. The Discovery In the Fall of 1990, * *two researchers, Drs *William Lyman *and* Steven Kaali, *working at Albert Einstein Medical College in New York City made an important discovery. They found that they could inactivate the HIV virus by applying a low voltage direct current electrical potential with an extremely small current flow to AIDS infected blood in a test tube. Initially, they discovered this in the lab by inserting two platinum electrodes into a glass tube filled with HIV-1 (type 1) infected blood. They applied a direct current to the electrodes and found that a current flow in the range of *50-100 microamperes* (uA) produced the most effective results. /Practically all /o/f the HIV viral particles were adversely affected while normal blood cells remained unharmed. /The viral particles were not directly destroyed by the electric current, but rather the outer protein coating of the virus was affected in such a way as to prevent the virus from producing *reverse transcriptase*, a necessary enzyme needed by the virus to invade human cells. Reverse transcriptase allows the virus to enter a human *T cell* line (called *CEM-SS)* and commandeer the DNA reproduction machinery. After using the host cell to reproduce itself into thousands of new virii, the swollen host cell (now called *syncytia*/ /or/ /giant cell) will burst and spew the contents into the bloodstream or lymph system. This is how the virus spreads, but lacking reverse transcriptase, the HIV virus can't invade the host cell and it becomes vulnerable to destruction by the body's immune system. (The details of this experiment http://educate-yourself.org/be/bekaaliexperiment.shtml can be read from Kaali's patent application.) Getting the Word Out? A brief announcement of this discovery appeared in /The Houston Post http://educate-yourself.org/be/behoustonpost.shtml/ (Mar 20, 1991), then in /Science News http://educate-yourself.org/be/besciencenews.shtml/ (Mar. 30, 1991 pg. 207) and later in /Longevity http://educate-yourself.org/be/belongevity.shtml/ magazine: (Dec.1992 pg. 14). Following their work in the Fall of 1990, Kaali and Lyman presented their findings at the First International Symposium on
Re: CShelp needed Skin cancer - black salve or chickweed
I'd love to see the info on the H30. I remember when they were advertising it years ago. Bob - Original Message - From: Renee To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2010 2:35 PM Subject: RE: CShelp needed Skin cancer - black salve or chickweed Anyone that wanted what Tony sent me, please ask again so I can forward it to you. I have deleted those emails. I did look at the wayback machine for alpha omega labs, as Marshall suggested, and found their H3o information. But I dodn't know if in the 2 years they have updated it so will compare what Tony sent me to that one later on this evening. At one point they could not sell H3o in the US, then when they went to s. America the started making it again, and I ordered it, along with some tinctures. At the time the h3o and the cansema came from SA and later the tinctures came from here in the US. So they have a US distributor, but was--at that time--also sending things from SA, things not allowed to be sold in the US I guess. Now apparently they are not even being allowed to send stuff from SA anymore, as we are being denied access to the SA site!!! And here I thought only China censored the Internet! If anyone figures out a way around this, I would love to 'take it for a spin' and report back here what I can see. Samala, Renee ---Original Message--- Okay, can somebody come up with SIMPLE instructions for us so Renee can try browsing the site using an offshore proxy and see what she's not being allowed to see from inside the US? That'd be a fun experiment and a useful skill for us all to develop. I'd love to hear her report...
