CSElectromedicine
Since several years now I am searching for material about successful electromedicine. I have much together but of course much is still missing. CS also is old stuff. It is done for example by using a battery and silver electrodes. Also silver electrodes could be used on the body and a voltage applied. Just another approach. I read about that in 1890 or so in medical books blood electrification was mentioned. Unfortunately I do not know in which book. Is anybody there who read something like that and can tell me where I can find this? In 1906 for treatment of breast cancer positive electrodes seemed to have been used as a standard treatment. Medical books were telling about. Does anybody have such a book indicating this? I also read about that today there are frequency devices developed in New Jersey using a special wave form/frequency to regenerate nerves and brain tissue. Several US patents seem to describe wave form and frequency. Everybody could build this for just 50 to100$. Does somebody know about this? I know that this is not really related to CS - but may be anyway interesting and useful. Matthias -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSElectromedicine
Hi Matthias, I don't know about brain tissue but Russian cosmodic devices are said to regenerate nerves. I knew a gentleman who was paraplegic and was starting to get sensations in his legs again after using a cosmodic device for a time. I would be interested in whatever you find. PT -Original Message- From: Dr. Matthias Weisser [mailto:matthias.weis...@gmx.de] Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2011 7:54 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSElectromedicine Since several years now I am searching for material about successful electromedicine. I have much together but of course much is still missing. CS also is old stuff. It is done for example by using a battery and silver electrodes. Also silver electrodes could be used on the body and a voltage applied. Just another approach. I read about that in 1890 or so in medical books blood electrification was mentioned. Unfortunately I do not know in which book. Is anybody there who read something like that and can tell me where I can find this? In 1906 for treatment of breast cancer positive electrodes seemed to have been used as a standard treatment. Medical books were telling about. Does anybody have such a book indicating this? I also read about that today there are frequency devices developed in New Jersey using a special wave form/frequency to regenerate nerves and brain tissue. Several US patents seem to describe wave form and frequency. Everybody could build this for just 50 to100$. Does somebody know about this? I know that this is not really related to CS - but may be anyway interesting and useful. Matthias -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1831 / Virus Database: 2092/4568 - Release Date: 10/22/11 - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1831 / Virus Database: 2092/4568 - Release Date: 10/22/11
Re: CSA case report of fungal issues caused by EIS
Hi everyone, I am the guy with problems with Candida in the past. I was only drinking 2 litres at a time (5ppm on on empty stomach) because otherwise it would have been wasted during my calibration experiments, the sol was app. 5ppm to 6 ppm in all instances, though I only found out my actual ppm value when I got my lab tests done by argon spectrometer. I had not been using any antibiotics (I stay well away from them) and do not regularly take silver sol, though I have used it very successfully for food poisoning, also to save abscessed teeth from having to be pulled in myself and other people (the antibiotics dentists give you for this just knock out your immune system, and the abscess just balloons massively and then the tooth has to be pulled, though denstists will come out with nonsense that the antibiotic was just making all the toxin come out and that is what made the abscess swell. Whereas with silver sol, the abscess just goes right down and completely disappears and you get to keep your tooth. I just swilled silver sol from a big bottle as often as possible in my mouth, holding it in as long as possible before swallowing for a week or too to accomplish that, and it works great. By the way, even that gave me the fluffy itchy feeling in the back of my throat too, just as using those awful antibacterial chemical mouthwashes do, the result is the same, silver sol will kill anything, good or bad, but the gut bacteria are so numerous that they rapidly reinhabit wherever you have inadvertantly sterilised, though the damage I did was so bad I had to use 'Kiki' Soil Based Organisms to put everything back in order. There have of course been recent articles on chemical antibiotics like ampicillin and so on possibly doing permanent damage to the natural becteria, though the jury is still out on that. Here is my blog again by the way: http://rtr.org/blogs/25049/13007/sbo-s-and-silver-sols-and-how-t With regards to everyone, Dave On Sat, Oct 22, 2011 at 4:39 AM, David AuBuchon aubuchon.da...@gmail.comwrote: Here is an apparent case of fungal issues caused by EIS from a D. Glover. He said I could repost this from an email he sent me. This is the only case I have ever heard of. Anyone have others? David Re the sterile gut, I was drinking 2 litres at a time that was going surplus during my frequent experiments to calibrate my sol making equipment, as I had to send off a number of 20 ml bottles of samples done at different lengths of time to do a graph to see where the ppm value I wanted would occur. Believe it or not one of the samples I sent off came back as 5.1ppm from Sheffield University in England, and as the stuff I was originally required to make was 5 ppm I was quite pleased with my guesswork, though I make it a bit stronger now for myself. What happens is that the 2 pounds of freindly gut bacteria just got hammered by that vast amount of silver sol. I started to feel a tickling at the back of my throat, like my throat had fluff stuck in it, that is when you have killed all the friendly bacteria in your mouth/throat and candida starts to proliferate there. From then it just gets worse, my entire body came down with really lethal candida, and I normally never get anything more than a little athlete's foot on my little toes on each foot. My eyes blurred and my vision clouded over so that I started to literally lose my eyesight, as I could no longer make out the grouting lines in brickwork any more, and I was itching like hell all over my body, and felt absolutely lousy mentally. Of course I knew what I had done, but it was too late. I ruled out the idea of using sol to sort this out, as I knew I would be left even more vulnerable, so I started using Chinese herbs from a brilliant researcher called Paul Thomlinson I think his name was (he is no longer in business for some reason I think), and also took SBO's later on from a company called Kiki (top notch) and gradually I got my health back. At least I never turned blue anyway, that would have been really fun.
Re: CSElectromedicine
Hi PT, I heard about those russian devices. Unfortunately there seem to be 2 families of those and for me its not clear which one of those really makes sense. If they would be cheap one could think of just buying one to have a try. But they are not so cheap at all - with except of some DENAS devices. Robert Beck talked about real cheap possibilities. And he said that we could build this cheaply. In the patents we could read about the needed frequencies and signal forms. So I feel this would be the better way, if we knew those patents. I do not want to take some 1000$ for such a russian device knowing that may be next year a new one will come. May be these Alphastim devices are also an idea. But I feel they are also expensive. Matthias Am 23.10.2011 16:10, schrieb PTFerrance: Hi Matthias, I don't know about brain tissue but Russian cosmodic devices are said to regenerate nerves. I knew a gentleman who was paraplegic and was starting to get sensations in his legs again after using a cosmodic device for a time. I would be interested in whatever you find. PT -Original Message- From: Dr. Matthias Weisser [mailto:matthias.weis...@gmx.de] Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2011 7:54 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSElectromedicine Since several years now I am searching for material about successful electromedicine. I have much together but of course much is still missing. CS also is old stuff. It is done for example by using a battery and silver electrodes. Also silver electrodes could be used on the body and a voltage applied. Just another approach. I read about that in 1890 or so in medical books blood electrification was mentioned. Unfortunately I do not know in which book. Is anybody there who read something like that and can tell me where I can find this? In 1906 for treatment of breast cancer positive electrodes seemed to have been used as a standard treatment. Medical books were telling about. Does anybody have such a book indicating this? I also read about that today there are frequency devices developed in New Jersey using a special wave form/frequency to regenerate nerves and brain tissue. Several US patents seem to describe wave form and frequency. Everybody could build this for just 50 to100$. Does somebody know about this? I know that this is not really related to CS - but may be anyway interesting and useful. Matthias -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions:mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devourmailto:mdev...@eskimo.com - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1831 / Virus Database: 2092/4568 - Release Date: 10/22/11 - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1831 / Virus Database: 2092/4568 - Release Date: 10/22/11 -- Dr. Matthias Weisser Lackenschusterweg 2 82024 Taufkirchen Tel. 089/6126977 www.mweisser.de www.gesundohnepillen.de www.rettet-das-internet.de www.stop1984.com www.stoppt-die-vorratsdatenspeicherung.de www.againsttcpa.com www.privatkopie.net www.foebud.org
RE: CSElectromedicine
Hi Matthias, I have a Denas instrument and I don't use it very much. I have also had an alphastim and sent it back. I purchased a cosmodic unit about 18 months ago and use it often. It is a place it where it hurts kind of unit and I would recommend it to anyone who is interested. I recently took a nasty fall and believe that because I was able to start treatment within seconds (I carry it with me) I avoided much pain and suffering that would have otherwise resulted. I would be happy to further discuss this with you back channel if you would like. I cannot recommend cosmodic enough. Another electrohealing modality I have found helpful is frequency specific microcurrent. PT -Original Message- From: Dr. Matthias Weisser [mailto:matthias.weis...@gmx.de] Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2011 10:24 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSElectromedicine Hi PT, I heard about those russian devices. Unfortunately there seem to be 2 families of those and for me its not clear which one of those really makes sense. If they would be cheap one could think of just buying one to have a try. But they are not so cheap at all - with except of some DENAS devices. Robert Beck talked about real cheap possibilities. And he said that we could build this cheaply. In the patents we could read about the needed frequencies and signal forms. So I feel this would be the better way, if we knew those patents. I do not want to take some 1000$ for such a russian device knowing that may be next year a new one will come. May be these Alphastim devices are also an idea. But I feel they are also expensive. Matthias Am 23.10.2011 16:10, schrieb PTFerrance: Hi Matthias, I don't know about brain tissue but Russian cosmodic devices are said to regenerate nerves. I knew a gentleman who was paraplegic and was starting to get sensations in his legs again after using a cosmodic device for a time. I would be interested in whatever you find. PT -Original Message- From: Dr. Matthias Weisser [mailto:matthias.weis...@gmx.de] Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2011 7:54 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSElectromedicine Since several years now I am searching for material about successful electromedicine. I have much together but of course much is still missing. CS also is old stuff. It is done for example by using a battery and silver electrodes. Also silver electrodes could be used on the body and a voltage applied. Just another approach. I read about that in 1890 or so in medical books blood electrification was mentioned. Unfortunately I do not know in which book. Is anybody there who read something like that and can tell me where I can find this? In 1906 for treatment of breast cancer positive electrodes seemed to have been used as a standard treatment. Medical books were telling about. Does anybody have such a book indicating this? I also read about that today there are frequency devices developed in New Jersey using a special wave form/frequency to regenerate nerves and brain tissue. Several US patents seem to describe wave form and frequency. Everybody could build this for just 50 to100$. Does somebody know about this? I know that this is not really related to CS - but may be anyway interesting and useful. Matthias -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions:mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devourmailto:mdev...@eskimo.com - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1831 / Virus Database: 2092/4568 - Release Date: 10/22/11 - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1831 / Virus Database: 2092/4568 - Release Date: 10/22/11 -- Dr. Matthias Weisser Lackenschusterweg 2 82024 Taufkirchen Tel. 089/6126977 www.mweisser.de www.gesundohnepillen.de www.rettet-das-internet.de www.stop1984.com www.stoppt-die-vorratsdatenspeicherung.de www.againsttcpa.com www.privatkopie.net www.foebud.org - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1831 / Virus Database: 2092/4569 - Release Date: 10/23/11
Re: CSA case report of fungal issues caused by EIS
Hi Janet: Furthermore, the individual reported ***prior*** problems with toenail fungus, which is usually an indication of a pre-existing issue, often having to do with a systemic insult of some sort. Kind Regards, Jason - Original Message - From: Garnet To: Silver List Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2011 20:25 Subject: Re: CSA case report of fungal issues caused by EIS In my way of thinking and advising people as a Wellness Consultant at Austin's four holistic pharmacies, is to tell them that probiotics are always a healthy choice. That there are no documented cases of CS or EIS causing fungal dysbiosis. And few if any anecdotal reports. For one thing it would be extremely difficult to isolate a cause. But just thinking about it, this list would be rife with stories of candida dysbiosis following initial CS use. And it is not. To propagate a myth because one person out of literally hundreds of thousands believes it is true is very science, it is not conservative, it is simply unfounded belief lacking any proof, therefore IMHO it is best not to propagate such an unfounded belief in the mistaken cause of conservativism. To me it is a disservice unless there is an abundance of anecdotal evidence, and there is not, to even mention it. I only address the issue if asked. Janet R. Perry, MA Pharmacology Wellness Consultant Peoples Pharmacy Austin, TX Subject: Re: CSA case report of fungal issues caused by EIS From: David AuBuchon aubuchon.da...@gmail.com Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2011 12:10:58 -0700 To: silver-list@eskimo.com Yes, all true...the yeast could have been related to something else. Though the person believes it was the CS. It is always better to be on the conervative side, so that when people ask about yeast and CS, I will say from now on that there has been 1 *possible* case of candida from the use of EIS. Though it wasnt clear if other things were the cause. And the dose was large. And there was no probiotic. Probiotic or not, this is the first time I have ever heard it claimed, so it should be noted by the members of this forum for completeness sake. David
CSNeti pot
My brother had extreme sinus condition. He hadn't been able to smell anything for at least 5 years, he was on 2 different prescription sinus medications daily, plus, when allergy season would happen he'd still get a sinus infection and have to go to the doctor to get shots for it. He was visiting and sounded so stuffy i told him about the neti pot. He went right downtown and bought one. Over a period of a few months he was able to get rid of one of his medications and make it through that allergy season without getting an infection. Over the next 6 month period he was able to stop the other medication and he got his sense of smell back. He's been on a neti pot for 2 years now and has not gotten one sinus infection, he can smell everything, no longer sounds stuffy all the time, and just is so happy about his non-existing sinus problem. He uses sea salt and baking soda in the neti. His neti holds a cup, so he makes 2 cups of warm water, a half teaspoon of sea salt and a half teaspoon of baking soda, stirs together and then fills the pot and does one nostril with the whole cup, then fills the pot and does the other nostril with the second cup. He uses it daily, first thing in the morning. In allergy season he uses it twice a day. He takes his pot with him when he travels. Once he came here for a weekend visit and had forgotten to bring his neti with him, so he went right downtown and bought another one. He will never be without one again. Samala, Renee happy.gif
Re: CSNeti pot
Some have added Iodine to that mix to keep the sinuses clear as well. Works GREAT! Glowing, Marygrace~ Original Message Subj: Date: 10/23/2011 7:05:38 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time From: _gaiacita@gmail.com_ (mailto:gaiac...@gmail.com) To: _silver-list@eskimo.com_ (mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com) Sent on: My brother had extreme sinus condition. He hadn't been able to smell anything for at least 5 years, he was on 2 different prescription sinus medications daily, plus, when allergy season would happen he'd still get a sinus infection and have to go to the doctor to get shots for it. He was visiting and sounded so stuffy i told him about the neti pot. He went right downtown and bought one. Over a period of a few months he was able to get rid of one of his medications and make it through that allergy season without getting an infection. Over the next 6 month period he was able to stop the other medication and he got his sense of smell back. He's been on a neti pot for 2 years now and has not gotten one sinus infection, he can smell everything, no longer sounds stuffy all the time, and just is so happy about his non-existing sinus problem. He uses sea salt and baking soda in the neti. His neti holds a cup, so he makes 2 cups of warm water, a half teaspoon of sea salt and a half teaspoon of baking soda, stirs together and then fills the pot and does one nostril with the whole cup, then fills the pot and does the other nostril with the second cup. He uses it daily, first thing in the morning. In allergy season he uses it twice a day. He takes his pot with him when he travels. Once he came here for a weekend visit and had forgotten to bring his neti with him, so he went right downtown and bought another one. He will never be without one again. Samala, Renee inline: happy.gif
Re: CSElectromedicine
Check out The Desideratum or, Electricity Made Plain and Useful by John Wesley, 1759. It is available free for download on Google Books. Dan On Sun, Oct 23, 2011 at 6:54 AM, Dr. Matthias Weisser matthias.weis...@gmx.de wrote: Since several years now I am searching for material about successful electromedicine. I have much together but of course much is still missing. CS also is old stuff. It is done for example by using a battery and silver electrodes. Also silver electrodes could be used on the body and a voltage applied. Just another approach. I read about that in 1890 or so in medical books blood electrification was mentioned. Unfortunately I do not know in which book. Is anybody there who read something like that and can tell me where I can find this? In 1906 for treatment of breast cancer positive electrodes seemed to have been used as a standard treatment. Medical books were telling about. Does anybody have such a book indicating this? I also read about that today there are frequency devices developed in New Jersey using a special wave form/frequency to regenerate nerves and brain tissue. Several US patents seem to describe wave form and frequency. Everybody could build this for just 50 to100$. Does somebody know about this? I know that this is not really related to CS - but may be anyway interesting and useful. Matthias -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSElectromedicine
Thank you very much Dan. I have it here - printed. I really should find some time reading it now. Matthias Am 23.10.2011 17:57, schrieb Dan Nave: Check out The Desideratum or, Electricity Made Plain and Useful by John Wesley, 1759. It is available free for download on Google Books. Dan -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSElectromedicine
Google books photocopied a book about electrotherapy which you might already have - a search should bring it up. :The Desideratum: or, electricity made Plain and Useful By A Lover of Mankind and of Common Sense The Reverend John Wesley 1759 ... 120 remarkable Cures by Electricity pp 43-70 p 52: William Matthews, Schoolmaster, aged thirty two, living at the Foundery near Moorfields, had Epileptic Fits (supposed to be hereditary) from his Birth, till he was six Years old. Thence he was free till Thirteen. They then returned on occasion of a Fright, and continued so to do twice or thrice in a Year, till he was seventeen. From that Time they came almost every Month, till the Year 1753: Since then they usually returned about once in ten or eleven Weeks. In the Middle of March last he began to be electrified, both thro' the Head, and from Head to Foot. April 4. He had a slight Fit, but from that Time to this, Nov 1, has had none at all. Can all England afford such a Cure as this, wrought by a Course of Medicines? p. 66 Mary Butler, aged 86, living in Eagle street, Red Lion Square, having been afflicted with the Sciatica for more than twenty Years, was last Month electrified ten or twelve Times, and has been easy ever since. It seems the Electric Fire in Cases of this and of many other Kinds, dilates the minute Vessels, and capillary Passages, as well as separates the clogging Particles of the stagnating Fluids. By accelerating likewise the Motion of the Blood, it removes many Obstructions. After Wesley's writings, there is an Appendix The Electricity of Modern Times, dated July 1871. *2.**The Disorders in which it has been of unques**tionable use, are,* Agues,Fistula Lacrymalis, St. Anthony's Fire,Fits, Ganglions, Gout, Gravel Blindness, even from Gutta Serena,Head-Ache, Blood extravasated,Hysterics, Bronchocele,Inflammations, Chlorosis,King's Evil, Coldness in the Feet,Knots in the Flesh, *Consumption,**Lameness, Leprosy,* *Contractions of the Limbs,Mortification,* Cramp,Pain in the Back, in the Deafness, Dropsy,Stomach, EpilepsyPalpitation of the Heart, Feet violently disorder'd, Palsy, Pleurisy, Felons,Rheumatism, There is a description of Wesley's apparatus in http://electrocleansing.com/history_wesley.php with reference to other of his writings. Wesley's Electrical Machine Described /It consists of a hollow glass cylinder (7 1/2 in. long by 4 1/2 in. diameter) supported on two wooden uprights. Through it runs a metal bar to which a handle is attached, by means of which the cylinder can be freely rotated. A leather pad (to which is firmly attached a piece of black silk) is pressed against the cylinder. It is controlled, very simply, by a thumbscrew./ / On an attached platform (8 in. long by 5 in. wide) and mounted on a glass insulating column, is a metal arm with a thin rod (9 1/2 in. long) attached to it, at the end of which is a small metal ball 1 in. diameter. The whole machine is mounted on four glass insulating legs (4 1/2 in. in height)./ /Presumably the patient caught hold of the ball and as the metal arm made contact with the rotating cylinder, got a shock - the intensity depending upon the vigor with which the handle was turned./ / Also on view is a Leyden jar of the period, it being 6.5 in. in height and 4 in. in diameter. Treatment by this method of storing an accumulated charge was also used, but it is recorded that Wesley himself preferred the machine. Possibly the more vigorous and obvious method appealed to a man of his temperament. Wesley is known to have had at least four machines in his possession./ (Woodward, M. W., Wesley's Electrical Machine, /Nursing Mirror/, 1962.) http://electrocleansing.com/historicaluse.php This site also has information about setting up a device. http://www.scribd.com/doc/40552805/John-Wesley-and-the-Eighteenth-Century-Therapeutic-Uses-of-Electricity You can download this with a Facebook or Scribd account. The journal of John Wesley By John Wesley, Nehemiah Curnock on Google Books http://www.microcurrentsystems.com/gout - article which also refers to early research and mentions Arsene D'Arsonval, I read about that in 1890 or so in medical books blood electrification was mentioned. Unfortunately I do not know in which book. Is anybody there who read something like that and can tell me where I can find this? In -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
CSBob Beck electrification
Hi, Here is a link to the Bob Beck blood electrification protocol which is awesome. I have had one of these units for many years and It works great for curing illness. This combined with CS is a very useful tool. http://www.sharinghealth.com/beckprotocol.html Janine
Re: CSElectromedicine
Thank you very much for this Rowena. This is very interesting. Now I know the pages that I will have to read. Matthias Am 23.10.2011 18:34, schrieb Rowena: Google books photocopied a book about electrotherapy which you might already have - a search should bring it up. :The Desideratum: or, electricity made Plain and Useful By A Lover of Mankind and of Common Sense The Reverend John Wesley 1759 ... 120 remarkable Cures by Electricity pp 43-70 -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSSmart Meter and Chem Trail
Why not contact the people doing it? http://www.weathermodification.com/cloud-seeding-ground.php - Original Message - From: David AuBuchon To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2011 8:27 PM Subject: Re: CSSmart Meter and Chem Trail I was thinking about a way to revolt against chemtrails too People take photos of the chemtrails. Then they map it on a map, and draw a line extending the path. Then there is this website were everyone can post their lines, and you can see a map of off the lines put together. Maybe some pattern will emerge showing the source of the airplanes. Also could show where all the airports are, and see how implausible it is that they could be coming from those airports. David
Re: CSElectromedicine
Hi Matthias, Apparently Bob Beck willed all his info to Rus Torlage of Sota instruments. http://www.sota.com/ Beck made the various Brain tuner models which are Cranio electro stimulation devices. CES. and I believe Sota makes them now. Alphastim have a lot of worthwhile info on their site http://www.alpha-stim.com/ and there is also a very useful little book about the history and science of CES by Kirsch. Also for a simple circuit see www.redcircuits.com/Page19.htm I lashed together one of those and it works very well. [ I have the use of an Alphastim which is neat and well made but I believe the redcircuits produces much better result for me. ] I will be very interested to learn more about the early history of colloidal silver if ther eis anything you can make available OK, Tony M On 23 Oct 2011 at 16:23, Dr. Matthias Weisser wrote about : Subject : Re: CSElectromedicine Hi PT, I heard about those russian devices. Unfortunately there seem to be 2 families of those and for me its not clear which one of those really makes sense. If they would be cheap one could think of just buying one to have a try. But they are not so cheap at all - with except of some DENAS devices. Robert Beck talked about real cheap possibilities. And he said that we could build this cheaply. In the patents we could read about the needed frequencies and signal forms. So I feel this would be the better way, if we knew those patents. I do not want to take some 1000$ for such a russian device knowing that may be next year a new one will come. May be these Alphastim devices are also an idea. But I feel they are also expensive. Matthias -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSElectromedicine
Hi Tony, yes, Russ should have all this. Bob talked about having a patent list about those CES devices. Unfortunately I did not see such a list until now. In the papers that I found on the internet there was no such list, not even one single patent number. Beck told that there are some important frequencies that have been found by using many animal tests. 2720Hz was one and also 3 others he said. But which ones? He also said that his brain tuner would deliver those. If one now builds such a device nobody can be sure that the needed frequencies are really there. This would have to be checked using a spectrum analyzer. May be those frequencies that Beck mentioned are not so important? You seem to have success using other frequencies? I do not have something special about this silver stuff. Just some files that I collected over the years. May be you will find what you search for here on my site: http://www.gesundohnepillen.de/bobbeck.shtml http://www.gesundohnepillen.de/bobbeck.shtml#P02PAGE05 I do not know much about the history of the colloidal silver. I am not sure if Beck was an inventor here. Also here could help a patent list if still there. Matthias Am 23.10.2011 21:04, schrieb Tony Moody: Hi Matthias, Apparently Bob Beck willed all his info to Rus Torlage of Sota instruments. http://www.sota.com/ Beck made the various Brain tuner models which are Cranio electro stimulation devices. CES. and I believe Sota makes them now. Alphastim have a lot of worthwhile info on their site http://www.alpha-stim.com/ and there is also a very useful little book about the history and science of CES by Kirsch. Also for a simple circuit see www.redcircuits.com/Page19.htm I lashed together one of those and it works very well. [ I have the use of an Alphastim which is neat and well made but I believe the redcircuits produces much better result for me. ] I will be very interested to learn more about the early history of colloidal silver if ther eis anything you can make available OK, Tony M -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSSmart Meter Frequency and Info
No amount of exposure is a good amount of exposure of this crap... sorry i don't buy it.. the exposure so called safe limits, who is claiming it is safe? Should you trust them? I don't...are they health professionals?? NO!! So who are they to say what is safe Why take the risk Should we wait for the bodies to pile up before we determine that yes they are unsafe? - Original Message - From: Dan Nave bhangcha...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2011 4:19 PM Subject: CSSmart Meter Frequency and Info Found some useful info at this link. Below the part I attached is also a list of links that may be relevant. Dan http://www.sdge.com/smartmeter/faq.shtml At what frequency does the smart meter operate and will it interfere with other wireless devices in my home? Smart meters run on two frequencies. The frequency communicating to the electric meter is 900 MHz (megahertz). If the premise also has a gas meter, the frequency from the electric meter to the gas meter is 2.4 GHz (gigahertz). The electric meter frequency is similar to a cell phone and the gas meter frequency is similar to a computer router. Neither device will interfere with any wireless devices in the home. Have the health effects of radiofrequency (RF) emitted from Smart Meters been assessed? The technology being used in the Smart meter system RF exposures from Smart meters and other devices used in the system are far below the FCC exposure guidelines. The FCC's guidelines for human exposure to RF electromagnetic fields were adopted from limits recommended by the U.S. National Council on Radiation Protection and Measurements and the C95.1-1992 guidelines developed by the American National Standards Institute and Institute of Electrical and Electronics Engineers. Learn more about Smart meter RF exposure and concerns about effects on public health: -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSSmart Meter Frequency and Info
Mike, RF readings have shown that smart meters emit far stronger fields than they admit, and they emit them for 24/7 in a pulsed arrangement. From what I have read, these smart meters are dangerous. Nobody knows the health effects of microwave radiation, and studies do show increased risk of cancer, high blood pressure, cardiac abnormalities, allergies, and other health effects. I have also read that the microwaves can be blocked using thick aluminum foil or aluminum screening. It's best to block in back of the meter so no waves enter your house. If you block the front of the meter they won't be able to be read and that might trigger law enforcement of some sort. I'm no expert but I'm reading as much as I can on this. If you live in California you can complain to SC Edison or PGE. Bob - Original Message - From: Mike W-H th...@telus.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2011 4:31 PM Subject: Re: CSSmart Meter Frequency and Info No amount of exposure is a good amount of exposure of this crap... sorry i don't buy it.. the exposure so called safe limits, who is claiming it is safe? Should you trust them? I don't...are they health professionals?? NO!! So who are they to say what is safe Why take the risk Should we wait for the bodies to pile up before we determine that yes they are unsafe? - Original Message - From: Dan Nave bhangcha...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2011 4:19 PM Subject: CSSmart Meter Frequency and Info Found some useful info at this link. Below the part I attached is also a list of links that may be relevant. Dan http://www.sdge.com/smartmeter/faq.shtml At what frequency does the smart meter operate and will it interfere with other wireless devices in my home? Smart meters run on two frequencies. The frequency communicating to the electric meter is 900 MHz (megahertz). If the premise also has a gas meter, the frequency from the electric meter to the gas meter is 2.4 GHz (gigahertz). The electric meter frequency is similar to a cell phone and the gas meter frequency is similar to a computer router. Neither device will interfere with any wireless devices in the home. Have the health effects of radiofrequency (RF) emitted from Smart Meters been assessed? The technology being used in the Smart meter system RF exposures from Smart meters and other devices used in the system are far below the FCC exposure guidelines. The FCC's guidelines for human exposure to RF electromagnetic fields were adopted from limits recommended by the U.S. National Council on Radiation Protection and Measurements and the C95.1-1992 guidelines developed by the American National Standards Institute and Institute of Electrical and Electronics Engineers. Learn more about Smart meter RF exposure and concerns about effects on public health: -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSSmart Meter Frequency and Info
Dan, Here is a sample letter that I signed and sent to SCEdison. California Public Utilities Commission 505 Van Ness Avenue San Francisco, California 94102 This letter is to inform you that as a California utility customer, I demand the removal of wireless utility meters, and wireless Smart Grid infrastructure and an immediate restoration of analog utility meters. The World Health Organization has recently classified radio frequency electromagnetic fields (wireless) a possible carcinogen. It is a violation of our rights to force the installation of wireless devices upon utility customers without fair process of public or environmental review, or proof of safety. I demand an investigation and evidentiary hearings into the safety impacts of wireless meters, including over billing, interference, burned out appliances, fires and explosions, and health complaints. The people of California deserve an opportunity to be heard. The opt-out proposals before the CPUC are inadequate responses to the problems consumers are experiencing. A pay to opt-out option is only available to the wealthy. This option is not equitable and therefore may be illegal. In addition, paying to opt out of a safety hazard is wrong. We are already paying more for the Smart Meter that we don't want. We want the same reliable service of an analog meter with a meter reader, and at no additional cost. Impose an immediate moratorium on wireless utility meters and provide immediate relief by restoring the analog meters! Thank you for your prompt attention to this matter! - Original Message - From: Dan Nave bhangcha...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2011 4:19 PM Subject: CSSmart Meter Frequency and Info Found some useful info at this link. Below the part I attached is also a list of links that may be relevant. Dan http://www.sdge.com/smartmeter/faq.shtml At what frequency does the smart meter operate and will it interfere with other wireless devices in my home? Smart meters run on two frequencies. The frequency communicating to the electric meter is 900 MHz (megahertz). If the premise also has a gas meter, the frequency from the electric meter to the gas meter is 2.4 GHz (gigahertz). The electric meter frequency is similar to a cell phone and the gas meter frequency is similar to a computer router. Neither device will interfere with any wireless devices in the home. Have the health effects of radiofrequency (RF) emitted from Smart Meters been assessed? The technology being used in the Smart meter system RF exposures from Smart meters and other devices used in the system are far below the FCC exposure guidelines. The FCC's guidelines for human exposure to RF electromagnetic fields were adopted from limits recommended by the U.S. National Council on Radiation Protection and Measurements and the C95.1-1992 guidelines developed by the American National Standards Institute and Institute of Electrical and Electronics Engineers. Learn more about Smart meter RF exposure and concerns about effects on public health: -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSSmart Meter Frequency and Info
Hi Dan, Would a tri-field meter be able to pick up these emissions? I have one, but need to buy a nine volt battery for it, as I am out, *sigh*. Thanks, Craig Dan Nave wrote: Found some useful info at this link. Below the part I attached is also a list of links that may be relevant. Dan http://www.sdge.com/smartmeter/faq.shtml -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSElectromedicine
Hi What about a pc based audio signal generator. They are usually free I also have two on my iPhone. I use a 12v car stereo speaker amp with a aux jack input and one of the speaker outputs for the two electrodes. Speaker volume acts as strength I used this setup to try some Zapper and rife frequencies. Although I didn't know what I was doing too well, I understood the principle. The software can duplicate many type of waveforms and frequency sweeps I would be interested in knowing these frequencies. Please share if anyone knows them I am also looking for a mentor who has used rife frequencies to get me started . Can anyone provide a decent website or personal experiences and description of setup and frequencies. As I really don't trust testimonies of posts I have read in other forums as they contradict too much to provide useful therapeutic pointers. Peace to all, Asif. On 23 Oct 2011, at 20:38, Dr. Matthias Weisser matthias.weis...@gmx.de wrote: Hi Tony, yes, Russ should have all this. Bob talked about having a patent list about those CES devices. Unfortunately I did not see such a list until now. In the papers that I found on the internet there was no such list, not even one single patent number. Beck told that there are some important frequencies that have been found by using many animal tests. 2720Hz was one and also 3 others he said. But which ones? He also said that his brain tuner would deliver those. If one now builds such a device nobody can be sure that the needed frequencies are really there. This would have to be checked using a spectrum analyzer. May be those frequencies that Beck mentioned are not so important? You seem to have success using other frequencies? I do not have something special about this silver stuff. Just some files that I collected over the years. May be you will find what you search for here on my site: http://www.gesundohnepillen.de/bobbeck.shtml http://www.gesundohnepillen.de/bobbeck.shtml#P02PAGE05 I do not know much about the history of the colloidal silver. I am not sure if Beck was an inventor here. Also here could help a patent list if still there. Matthias Am 23.10.2011 21:04, schrieb Tony Moody: Hi Matthias, Apparently Bob Beck willed all his info to Rus Torlage of Sota instruments. http://www.sota.com/ Beck made the various Brain tuner models which are Cranio electro stimulation devices. CES. and I believe Sota makes them now. Alphastim have a lot of worthwhile info on their site http://www.alpha-stim.com/ and there is also a very useful little book about the history and science of CES by Kirsch. Also for a simple circuit see www.redcircuits.com/Page19.htm I lashed together one of those and it works very well. [ I have the use of an Alphastim which is neat and well made but I believe the redcircuits produces much better result for me. ] I will be very interested to learn more about the early history of colloidal silver if ther eis anything you can make available OK, Tony M -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
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Hi Janet, I do go to People's Pharmacy in Austin. We often are at the Lamar store. I like best the one up North of Austin people are more ready to assist too. It is big and has the alternatiave docs too. Have seen Dr. Massey. Just a bit too much of a drive. So you do work in all four stores? That is quite a lot. Take care. Melly
Re: CSSmart Meter Frequency and Info
That may be so, but you don't appear to be the one who could make a judgement about it... Dan On Sun, Oct 23, 2011 at 6:31 PM, Mike W-H th...@telus.net wrote: No amount of exposure is a good amount of exposure of this crap... sorry i don't buy it.. the exposure so called safe limits, who is claiming it is safe? Should you trust them? I don't...are they health professionals?? NO!! So who are they to say what is safe Why take the risk Should we wait for the bodies to pile up before we determine that yes they are unsafe? - Original Message - From: Dan Nave bhangcha...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2011 4:19 PM Subject: CSSmart Meter Frequency and Info Found some useful info at this link. Below the part I attached is also a list of links that may be relevant. Dan http://www.sdge.com/smartmeter/faq.shtml At what frequency does the smart meter operate and will it interfere with other wireless devices in my home? Smart meters run on two frequencies. The frequency communicating to the electric meter is 900 MHz (megahertz). If the premise also has a gas meter, the frequency from the electric meter to the gas meter is 2.4 GHz (gigahertz). The electric meter frequency is similar to a cell phone and the gas meter frequency is similar to a computer router. Neither device will interfere with any wireless devices in the home. Have the health effects of radiofrequency (RF) emitted from Smart Meters been assessed? The technology being used in the Smart meter system RF exposures from Smart meters and other devices used in the system are far below the FCC exposure guidelines. The FCC's guidelines for human exposure to RF electromagnetic fields were adopted from limits recommended by the U.S. National Council on Radiation Protection and Measurements and the C95.1-1992 guidelines developed by the American National Standards Institute and Institute of Electrical and Electronics Engineers. Learn more about Smart meter RF exposure and concerns about effects on public health: -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSSmart Meter Frequency and Info
I don't know. You could read up on it or just try it. Dan On Sun, Oct 23, 2011 at 8:05 PM, Craig Chamberlin craigs...@craigcchamberlin.com wrote: Hi Dan, Would a tri-field meter be able to pick up these emissions? I have one, but need to buy a nine volt battery for it, as I am out, *sigh*. Thanks, Craig Dan Nave wrote: Found some useful info at this link. Below the part I attached is also a list of links that may be relevant. Dan http://www.sdge.com/smartmeter/faq.shtml -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
