Re: CSsuccess with CS?liposomes? rat poison
Ok, But then it is no problem to eat at least the FDA recommendation, and probably a bit more because they have set a minimal standard. /AJ 2012/12/6 mgperrault mgperra...@aol.com: Vit D releases calcium into the bloodstream which is toxic in higher amounts. Vit D overdose is still a possibility for human. Rodents dont have an aversion to Vit D so rat poison can does them with a large amount proportional to body size. FDA is widely considered corrupted by the pharmaceutical industry. Vitamin levels are often minimal standards and not for optimum health. Some of the standards were set a rather long time ago with limited knowledge of biochemistry compared to today. Some standards also change, for example the proposed optimum nutrition food pyramid, illustrating that even supposedly unbiased standards are prone to error. On 12/6/2012 11:57 AM, André Juthe wrote: Ok so the FDA's recommendations of vitamin D3 are very wrong? This is a bold claim. Do you have a some references for this? /AJ 2012/12/6 sol sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com: André Juthe wrote: Everything including water is bad if it is is taken in too high does, are you claiming that even eating according to the recommendations of FDA is unhealthy? If you mean eating according to the USDA food guidelines, I certainly do think it is un healthy. LOL sol -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSsuccess with CS?liposomes? rat poison
According to the most recent findings by Carole Baggerly, her research of nearly 10,000 people shows the ideal adult dose appears to be *8,000 IU's a day* to get most into the healthy range I think a lot of people believe the RDA is way too low for optimum health for most vitamins. Some vitamins are not excreted quickly, generally the oil soluble ones, and some care may be warranted. In general, I think there are few to no deaths annually due to herbs and vitamins whereas pharmaceutical drugs kill hundreds of thousands. There are always more factors than we know. For example early in the century it was just vit A B and C that were studied (gross simplification), now its phyto this, ortho that, enzyme here amino acid there. I like the idea of fresh and raw foods, probably vegetable juicing, live and vibrant. Even enzymes and co-q 10 dont describe live and vibrant. Vitamins add up in the cupboard. Its questionable. You have your compartmentalized box with so many pills you are trying to get your elderly loved one to take. Ugh.Herbs are good. M On 12/7/2012 1:22 AM, André Juthe wrote: Ok, But then it is no problem to eat at least the FDA recommendation, and probably a bit more because they have set a minimal standard. /AJ 2012/12/6 mgperrault mgperra...@aol.com: Vit D releases calcium into the bloodstream which is toxic in higher amounts. Vit D overdose is still a possibility for human. Rodents dont have an aversion to Vit D so rat poison can does them with a large amount proportional to body size. FDA is widely considered corrupted by the pharmaceutical industry. Vitamin levels are often minimal standards and not for optimum health. Some of the standards were set a rather long time ago with limited knowledge of biochemistry compared to today. Some standards also change, for example the proposed optimum nutrition food pyramid, illustrating that even supposedly unbiased standards are prone to error. On 12/6/2012 11:57 AM, André Juthe wrote:
Re: CSHow to use Silver and DMSO
In a message dated 12/6/2012 9:59:20 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, jsmpren...@sbcglobal.net writes: Hi Sandy, 1.-yes DMSO is a good carrier. Check this yahoo group-- _DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO sign in_ (http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO/) and check amazon.com for used copies of these 2 books-- DMSO Nature's Healer by Morton Walker MSM The Definitive Guide by Stanely Jacob MD and Jeremy Appleton, ND --- They are a wealth of information..For digestive problems you might look into Diatomaceous Earth _Red Lake Diatomaceous Earth w/ Calcium Bentonite2_ (http://wolfcreekranch1.tripod.com/red_lake_de.html) ( can be bought at Tractor Supply ) and--_E A R T H . C L I N I C - Folk Remedies and Holistic Cures 1_ (http://earthclinic.com/) Can also check on Calcium Bentonite Clay.-- _Clay As a Natural Home Remedy (Yes, Really)_ (http://www.keeperofthehome.org/2012/08/clay-as-a-natural-home-remedy-yes-really.html) Hope these might help,Good luck, Lois Hi, Just bought a Silver-Gen and have been using the silver in my mouth and taking 2 oz two times a day. I have not seen improvement. I would like to know how others have used DMSO and Silver. thinking that I might need the penetration to see sucess. Also is there a discussion group or web site that would have good knowledge on DMSO and CS. I have post nasal drip and dry sore mouth. Also digestive problems. Also I would like any help for external use for hip pain. Thanks a lot. Sandy
Re: CSHIV success with CS?liposomes?
So from this it would seem that supplementing with Vit D3 is a good thing as most of us don¹t get the sort of sun exposure that we need. I have read that Vit D3 has the ability to trigger the cancer cells to self-destruct and this is why it has been found that cancer patients have very low levels of it. I asked the question because I use the Now brand of liposomal sublingual spray version containing both Vit D3 and Vit K2. It was the liposomal part which bothered me because of your information. dee From: mgperrault mgperra...@aol.com Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Thu, 06 Dec 2012 19:31:44 -0700 To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSHIV success with CS?liposomes? Resent-From: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Resent-Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2012 18:31:43 -0800 How did this get started? Maybe because I said that liposomes can transiently decrease macrophage activity and then someone said vit D is a rat poison as a rebuttal, trying I think to say that even well known healthy things can be toxic depending on the dose.. Its not only the quantity but how well your body balances things with other hormones and vitamins. Excess calcium circulating in the system can be toxic. Vit D can cause this. Probably everybody knows Dr Mercola is big on Vit D Its off topic but here is a little Mercola extract; sun exposure or the use of a safe tanning bed are the best options to optimize your vitamin D levels. You cannot overdose when getting your vitamin D from sun exposure, as your body has the ability to self-regulate and only make what it needs. If these options are not available, a supplement can be used, but keep the following in mind: * According to the most recent findings by Carole Baggerly, founder of GrassrootsHealth http://www.grassrootshealth.net/ , her research of nearly 10,000 people shows the ideal adult dose appears to be 8,000 IU's a day to get most into the healthy range. * When you do supplement with vitamin D, you'll only want to supplement with natural vitamin D3 (cholecalciferol). * As an aside, there is evidence that the safety of vitamin D is dependent on vitamin K, and that vitamin D toxicity (although very rare with the D3 form) is actually aggravated by vitamin K2 deficiency. So if you take oral vitamin D, ideally you should take vitamin K2 as well http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2011/10/27/the-stealth-v itamin-that-can-improve-your-insulin-sensitivity.aspx or use organic fermented foods that are high in vitamin K2, as you need about 150 mcg per day. * The normal 25-hydroxyvitamin D lab range is between 20-56 ng/ml. But, this conventional range is really a sign of deficiency, and is too broad to be ideal. In fact, your vitamin D level should not be below 32 ng/ml, and any levels below 20 ng/ml are considered serious deficiency states, increasing your risk of cancer and autoimmune diseases like multiple sclerosis and rheumatoid arthritis, just to name a few. * * Remember that if you were in the sun nearly every day with large amounts of your skin exposed and not taking any oral vitamin D, your level would be around 100 ng/ml.
Re: CSHow to use Silver and DMSO
Sandy -- have you looked into the use of Apple Cider Vinegar and Honey? The protocol should help with all of these issues. The ACV needs to be unpasterurized with the *mother*, and the honey should be raw honey. Mix one tablespoon of each with 4 ozs. of hot water and drink. Twice a day. I don't think that CS would help with any of those issues, even with DMSO added. CS is more of an antibiotic in nature. MA From: JERRY PRENDERGAST jsmpren...@sbcglobal.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thu, December 6, 2012 8:59:26 PM Subject: CSHow to use Silver and DMSO Hi, Just bought a Silver-Gen and have been using the silver in my mouth and taking 2 oz two times a day. I have not seen improvement. I would like to know how others have used DMSO and Silver. thinking that I might need the penetration to see sucess. Also is there a discussion group or web site that would have good knowledge on DMSO and CS. I have post nasal drip and dry sore mouth. Also digestive problems. Also I would like any help for external use for hip pain. Thanks a lot. Sandy
Re: CSHow to use Silver and DMSO
In a message dated 12/7/2012 8:26:41 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
marmar...@bellsouth.net writes:
Sandy -- have you looked into the use of Apple Cider Vinegar and Honey?
The protocol should help with all of these issues. The ACV needs to be
unpasterurized with the *mother*, and the honey should be raw honey. Mix one
tablespoon of each with 4 ozs. of hot water and drink. Twice a day.
I don't think that CS would help with any of those issues, even with DMSO
added. CS is more of an antibiotic in nature.
MA
MA, Great idea the ACV Honey, my son cured his acid reflux using it.
Only has to take it occasionally now that the stomach had balanced..I wait for
the { buy one get 2 free sales } at puritan pride buy 15 bottles of the
organic ACV. and get 30 free, at a time I do think that the DMSO/CS
might help with the post nasal drip..I have a mixture of DMSO/CS in a small
spray bottle that I use in my eyes nose { also for the pets } I find
that if the old drip starts --a day or two of spray, 2 times a day stops it.
Maybe a different cause for the drip though, don't know... Lois
Re: CSHow to use Silver and DMSO
Hi Lois -- yes, I should have taken that point further -- if the nose issue is
a
sinus infection of some sort, then CS would help with that. If the nose issue
is an allergy issue, then the CS likely would not, but the ACV/Honey would
address it. I'm going to go to the Puritan Pride site and check out their
ACV.
We buy ours at a local Amish market -- it's not cheap!
Thanks for the tip!
I should also have mentioned that it's always a good idea to purchase honey
from
a local bee-keeper because his(her) bees will have fed on local plants and this
helps to desensitize the body to local allergens. But be sure that it's raw
honey, not pasteurized. I'm glad that your son was successful with this
protocol. That's exactly what I'm taking it for -- but I'm getting other
benefits as well. :-)
MA
From: zzekel...@aol.com zzekel...@aol.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Fri, December 7, 2012 7:42:49 AM
Subject: Re: CSHow to use Silver and DMSO
In a message dated 12/7/2012 8:26:41 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
marmar...@bellsouth.net writes:
Sandy -- have you looked into the use of Apple Cider Vinegar and Honey? The
protocol should help with all of these issues. The ACV needs to be
unpasterurized with the *mother*, and the honey should be raw honey. Mix one
tablespoon of each with 4 ozs. of hot water and drink. Twice a day.
I don't think that CS would help with any of those issues, even with DMSO
added. CS is more of an antibiotic in nature.
MA
MA, Great idea the ACV Honey, my son cured his acid reflux using it. Only has
to take it occasionally now that the stomach had balanced..I wait for the { buy
one get 2 free sales } at puritan pride buy 15 bottles of the organic ACV.
and
get 30 free, at a time I do think that the DMSO/CS might help with the
post nasal drip..I have a mixture of DMSO/CS in a small spray bottle that I use
in my eyes nose { also for the pets } I find that if the old drip starts
--a
day or two of spray, 2 times a day stops it. Maybe a different cause for the
drip though, don't know... Lois
Re: CSHow to use Silver and DMSO
Lois -- how often do they have the *buy one, get two free* sale? Doing it that
way, it costs $2.33 per bottle. Right now they're having a *buy 2, get 3 free*
sale -- which brings the per bottle price to $2.79. Still a great price, but
not quite as great. Also, isn't shipping expensive? These bottles are heavy!
MA
From: zzekel...@aol.com zzekel...@aol.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Fri, December 7, 2012 7:42:49 AM
Subject: Re: CSHow to use Silver and DMSO
MA, Great idea the ACV Honey, my son cured his acid reflux using it. Only has
to take it occasionally now that the stomach had balanced..I wait for the { buy
one get 2 free sales } at puritan pride buy 15 bottles of the organic ACV.
and
get 30 free, at a time I do think that the DMSO/CS might help with the
post nasal drip..I have a mixture of DMSO/CS in a small spray bottle that I use
in my eyes nose { also for the pets } I find that if the old drip starts
--a
day or two of spray, 2 times a day stops it. Maybe a different cause for the
drip though, don't know... Lois
Re: CSHow to use Silver and DMSO
Lois -- skip that -- just did a price comparison on what I buy locally, and
there's not enough difference to warrant buying and warehousing multiple
bottles. Thanks, though.
MA
From: MaryAnn Helland marmar...@bellsouth.net
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Fri, December 7, 2012 8:05:20 AM
Subject: Re: CSHow to use Silver and DMSO
Lois -- how often do they have the *buy one, get two free* sale? Doing it that
way, it costs $2.33 per bottle. Right now they're having a *buy 2, get 3 free*
sale -- which brings the per bottle price to $2.79. Still a great price, but
not quite as great. Also, isn't shipping expensive? These bottles are heavy!
MA
From: zzekel...@aol.com zzekel...@aol.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Fri, December 7, 2012 7:42:49 AM
Subject: Re: CSHow to use Silver and DMSO
MA, Great idea the ACV Honey, my son cured his acid reflux using it. Only has
to take it occasionally now that the stomach had balanced..I wait for the { buy
one get 2 free sales } at puritan pride buy 15 bottles of the organic ACV.
and
get 30 free, at a time I do think that the DMSO/CS might help with the
post nasal drip..I have a mixture of DMSO/CS in a small spray bottle that I use
in my eyes nose { also for the pets } I find that if the old drip starts
--a
day or two of spray, 2 times a day stops it. Maybe a different cause for the
drip though, don't know... Lois
CSRe: Suggestions for Baby?
Thank you so much for all your thoughtful responses and warnings about vaccinations. I DO agree with every one of you; the quotes I used were what the medical people or medical believers said, not what I believe... Personally I believe vaccinations are downright evil. This baby's twin died and it was determined to be SIDS. It was 11 days after a vaccine, longer than some and perhaps a coincidence, but you will never convince me of that. Since way before these babies were born, I was filing away article after article and purchasing DVDs, etc. on this subject. Yes, you can opt out in all states (at the moment) but this doesn't apply to my situation. Without going into the whole ugly story (and believe me, it is ugly), for now my grandson is in my temporary care. I have put things off as long as I am able but honestly do not have any choice in this matter; otherwise, this would never happen. I have been researching, hoping to find different ways to hopefully counteract the ill effects of vaccines and have been mostly unsuccessful. In the meantime, I have a Silver Gen which I normally forget to use but have begun to use again. Lately my grandson is very raspy sounding and has difficulty breathing at night. Currently I am just guessing with amounts to give him. I absolutely appreciate your advice about not giving vaccines and totally AGREE with ALL of you who responded , but I have run out of options unless a miracle descends. But can you help me with the Colloidal Silver so at least I can help him get better before what I am dreading? Thanks again, Valerie Suggestions for Baby?VALERIE Thursday, December 6, 2012 9:54 PM From: vicki hood mutt...@isp.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Valerie, Begging you to please not vaccinate. I lost my step grandson (3months old) 3 days after a vaccine. When you read ingredients mercury, formaldehyde, aluminum, dried sheeps blood, animal pus, MSG and other disgusting cross species ingredients, think how this will destroy the immune system. My almost stepson visited the coroner and was told to get out of her face. Parent support group for SIDS parents (10 sets of parents) . Every one of those babies had a vaccine no more than 5 days before they died. Not one baby reached any statistics. yOU CANNOT BE FORCED TO VACCiNATE. Nothing in the constitution that says government can put a foeign substance in your body. Follow the money train. Big pharma is beyond anything immaginable. Much written by doctors who have delved into the question written in vaclib.org-forms available to opt out if you want to present this to school. Good reading but google anti vaccine sites. PS studied this many years as i have MS from a vaccine in 1972-3 maybe. I have stayed away from big pharma as i know better now. I will do anti-biotics if absolutely necessary. Get a broken bone fixed or just absolutes. --You lost your babies twin and suspect vaccine? Google other mothers who have lost their babies from a vaccine. Know someone with an auto immune disease? ask if onset was right after a vaccine. That's cancers, Lupus, MS, arthritus, flu, encephalitus and many others. You could lose your other child. Tell them to put that needle where the sun don't shine. Not one vaccine. Read, discuss and don't believe in the money hungry big pharma.
Re: CSRe: Suggestions for Baby?
My heart breaks for you. I don't know your situation and why you will be forced to do this. If this is the case though, alternatively you must do some digging to see what you can do to prevent problems after the shots. I had to receive an MMR shot against my will in order to keep my job. I am a health care worker. Individual work places can make it a requirement and if you don't like it you can leave. I had to make a hard decision. I did however do everything in my power to stall, took homeopathic advice and remedies, took MMS, used ice immediately after on the area, I can't even remember now all that I did. It takes some digging and preparing. Get his system ready first! I pray for you and everyone that one day we will see sanity reign in proper testing and stop hurting everyone in the face of the almighty dollar. On Fri, Dec 7, 2012 at 8:50 AM, Valerie valq22...@yahoo.com wrote: Thank you so much for all your thoughtful responses and warnings about vaccinations. I DO agree with every one of you; the quotes I used were what the medical people or medical believers said, not what I believe... Personally I believe vaccinations are downright evil. This baby's twin died and it was determined to be SIDS. It was 11 days after a vaccine, longer than some and perhaps a coincidence, but you will never convince me of that. Since way before these babies were born, I was filing away article after article and purchasing DVDs, etc. on this subject. Yes, you can opt out in all states (at the moment) but this doesn't apply to my situation. Without going into the whole ugly story (and believe me, it is ugly), for now my grandson is in my temporary care. I have put things off as long as I am able but honestly do not have any choice in this matter; otherwise, this would never happen. I have been researching, hoping to find different ways to hopefully counteract the ill effects of vaccines and have been mostly unsuccessful. In the meantime, I have a Silver Gen which I normally forget to use but have begun to use again. Lately my grandson is very raspy sounding and has difficulty breathing at night. Currently I am just guessing with amounts to give him. I absolutely appreciate your advice about not giving vaccines and totally AGREE with ALL of you who responded , but I have run out of options unless a miracle descends. But can you help me with the Colloidal Silver so at least I can help him get better before what I am dreading? Thanks again, Valerie Suggestions for Baby?VALERIE **Thursday, December 6, 2012 9:54 PM** From: vicki hood mutt...@isp.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Valerie, Begging you to please not vaccinate. I lost my step grandson (3months old) 3 days after a vaccine. When you read ingredients mercury, formaldehyde, aluminum, dried sheeps blood, animal pus, MSG and other disgusting cross species ingredients, think how this will destroy the immune system. My almost stepson visited the coroner and was told to get out of her face. Parent support group for SIDS parents (10 sets of parents) . Every one of those babies had a vaccine no more than 5 days before they died. Not one baby reached any statistics. yOU CANNOT BE FORCED TO VACCiNATE. Nothing in the constitution that says government can put a foeign substance in your body. Follow the money train. Big pharma is beyond anything immaginable. Much written by doctors who have delved into the question written in vaclib.org-forms available to opt out if you want to present this to school. Good reading but google anti vaccine sites. PS studied this many years as i have MS from a vaccine in 1972-3 maybe. I have stayed away from big pharma as i know better now. I will do anti-biotics if absolutely necessary. Get a broken bone fixed or just absolutes. --You lost your babies twin and suspect vaccine? Google other mothers who have lost their babies from a vaccine. Know someone with an auto immune disease? ask if onset was right after a vaccine. That's cancers, Lupus, MS, arthritus, flu, encephalitus and many others. You could lose your other child. Tell them to put that needle where the sun don't shine. Not one vaccine. Read, discuss and don't believe in the money hungry big pharma.
Re: CSRe: Suggestions for Baby?
Another thought is that if he is not doing well, it is especially important not to go ahead now! Surely even the sheeple believers would have to agree. At least on this basis stall for whatever you can get for time and then build him up and prepare. God in heaven this shouldn't even have to happen. I am so sorry. On Fri, Dec 7, 2012 at 8:50 AM, Valerie valq22...@yahoo.com wrote: Thank you so much for all your thoughtful responses and warnings about vaccinations. I DO agree with every one of you; the quotes I used were what the medical people or medical believers said, not what I believe... Personally I believe vaccinations are downright evil. This baby's twin died and it was determined to be SIDS. It was 11 days after a vaccine, longer than some and perhaps a coincidence, but you will never convince me of that. Since way before these babies were born, I was filing away article after article and purchasing DVDs, etc. on this subject. Yes, you can opt out in all states (at the moment) but this doesn't apply to my situation. Without going into the whole ugly story (and believe me, it is ugly), for now my grandson is in my temporary care. I have put things off as long as I am able but honestly do not have any choice in this matter; otherwise, this would never happen. I have been researching, hoping to find different ways to hopefully counteract the ill effects of vaccines and have been mostly unsuccessful. In the meantime, I have a Silver Gen which I normally forget to use but have begun to use again. Lately my grandson is very raspy sounding and has difficulty breathing at night. Currently I am just guessing with amounts to give him. I absolutely appreciate your advice about not giving vaccines and totally AGREE with ALL of you who responded , but I have run out of options unless a miracle descends. But can you help me with the Colloidal Silver so at least I can help him get better before what I am dreading? Thanks again, Valerie Suggestions for Baby?VALERIE **Thursday, December 6, 2012 9:54 PM** From: vicki hood mutt...@isp.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Valerie, Begging you to please not vaccinate. I lost my step grandson (3months old) 3 days after a vaccine. When you read ingredients mercury, formaldehyde, aluminum, dried sheeps blood, animal pus, MSG and other disgusting cross species ingredients, think how this will destroy the immune system. My almost stepson visited the coroner and was told to get out of her face. Parent support group for SIDS parents (10 sets of parents) . Every one of those babies had a vaccine no more than 5 days before they died. Not one baby reached any statistics. yOU CANNOT BE FORCED TO VACCiNATE. Nothing in the constitution that says government can put a foeign substance in your body. Follow the money train. Big pharma is beyond anything immaginable. Much written by doctors who have delved into the question written in vaclib.org-forms available to opt out if you want to present this to school. Good reading but google anti vaccine sites. PS studied this many years as i have MS from a vaccine in 1972-3 maybe. I have stayed away from big pharma as i know better now. I will do anti-biotics if absolutely necessary. Get a broken bone fixed or just absolutes. --You lost your babies twin and suspect vaccine? Google other mothers who have lost their babies from a vaccine. Know someone with an auto immune disease? ask if onset was right after a vaccine. That's cancers, Lupus, MS, arthritus, flu, encephalitus and many others. You could lose your other child. Tell them to put that needle where the sun don't shine. Not one vaccine. Read, discuss and don't believe in the money hungry big pharma.
RE: CSRe: Suggestions for Baby?
Valerie valq22...@yahoo.com wrote: I have been researching, hoping to find different ways to hopefully counteract the ill effects of vaccines and have been mostly unsuccessful. == Valerie, Get the child to a good homeopath IMMEDIATELY. There are remedies that can either partially or completely correct the negative effects of vaccines. Thuja is commonly used, but be aware that each individual is different and what is appropriate for one may not work for another. This is why I suggest a consultation with a homeopath. Some homeopaths work by phone. You can also try Gemmotherapy. In effect, Gemmotherapy is stem cell therapy from plants. See my review of a book on Gemmotherapy at http://www.amazon.com/Gemmotherapy-N-H-D-Anthony-Speroni-N-D/dp/0557150981/r ef=sr_1_1?s=books http://www.amazon.com/Gemmotherapy-N-H-D-Anthony-Speroni-N-D/dp/0557150981/ ref=sr_1_1?s=booksie=UTF8qid=1354893788sr=1-1keywords=speroni+gemmothera py ie=UTF8qid=1354893788sr=1-1keywords=speroni+gemmotherapy or http://tinyurl.com/bgwlydv (same page, tiny URL) which describes in more detail what Gemmotherapy is. The book is worth buying so you can use the tinctures effectively. You can purchase Gemmotherapy tinctures for as little as $11/bottle. One of the remedies is specifically mentioned in relation to ill effects of vaccines, but all of the remedies deal with organs and systems of the body to help them clean out and repair themselves. Gemmotherapy is great for almost anything that ails you. I highly recommend it. It's gentle and safe for children. Nenah Nenah Sylver, PhD author, the NEW Rife Handbook (2011) Holistic Handbook of Sauna Therapy (2004) VoiceBio and Biomodulator certification http://www.nenahsylver.com www.nenahsylver.com; http://www.rifehandbook.com www.rifehandbook.com
Re: CSHas anyone investigated this substance?
Why do I need to overcome the quantum signature of he silver ion? On Thu, Dec 6, 2012 at 10:38 PM, James McDonald kscma...@yahoo.com wrote: Really? how do you overcome the quantum signature of the silver ion? -- *From:* Jim Holmes gooogleis...@gmail.com *To:* Silver-List silver-list@eskimo.com *Sent:* Tuesday, December 4, 2012 12:09 AM *Subject:* CSHas anyone investigated this substance? I like the geometry, no matter what. Multiple Modes of Action Testing has uncovered multiple modes of action by which the ABL Metallic Nano-silver Particle functions. First, it has an ability to steal multiple electrons (compared to ionic silvers which can only steal one). Second, each particle is permanently embedded with a resonant frequency, which allows the particles to have a positive effect on things, without needing direct contact with them. Lastly, the particles also utilize a very useful electrostatic charge.
Re: CSHas anyone investigated this substance?
To override the frequency of the silver ion for the supposed new one From: Jim Holmes gooogleis...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, December 7, 2012 11:00 AM Subject: Re: CSHas anyone investigated this substance? Why do I need to overcome the quantum signature of he silver ion? On Thu, Dec 6, 2012 at 10:38 PM, James McDonald kscma...@yahoo.com wrote: Really? how do you overcome the quantum signature of the silver ion? From: Jim Holmes gooogleis...@gmail.com To: Silver-List silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, December 4, 2012 12:09 AM Subject: CSHas anyone investigated this substance? I like the geometry, no matter what. Multiple Modes of Action Testing has uncovered multiple modes of action by which the ABL Metallic Nano-silver Particle functions. First, it has an ability to steal multiple electrons (compared to ionic silvers which can only steal one). Second, each particle is permanently embedded with a resonant frequency, which allows the particles to have a positive effect on things, without needing direct contact with them. Lastly, the particles also utilize a very useful electrostatic charge.
Re: CSGluthathione for Dad/need advice/Parkinsons disease
Elbert, If I were you, I would consider making a liposomal formula of gluthathione. You can make it very similar to how Vitamin C is liposomized. In fact, if I were you, I would combine both Vit C and gluthathione in a protocol. This should save you huge dollars if it seems effective for your dad. doug - Original Message - From: Elbert vaughn To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, December 07, 2012 11:29 AM Subject: CSGluthathione for Dad/need advice/Parkinsons disease Dear Silver list family, I would greatly appreciate any advice that could help me make the right descision in regards to the treating of my dad with Glutathione therapy. I have become aware that this antioxidant(we all produce it, but it diminishes as we get older), gives unbelievable results when given to Parkinsons patients(you can go to youtube, and put parkinsons patients being treated with glutathione, and see what I mean). Their are parkinsons patients when taking intravenous glutathione that are walking without assistence(a hour after taking glutathione), speaking cohenrently(a hour or more after taking gluthathione). It works that fast. I could not believe what I was seeing. The only problem is that it cost a fortune(many hundreds or even a thousand dollar per month or more(has to be given by a trained proffesional in a clinical setting, because I heard that you could do harm(possibly kill someone if you do not know how to give intravenous injections, which I don't know how to do). I don't believe you can get a prescription for glutahione, because it is not a drug, even though on the internet it says you can get a prescription for Glutathione(generally used for treating arthrithis, and asthma). We will have a appointment with my Dads neurologist to see if it is possible to get a precription(and hopefully if he gives us a prescription for Glutathione his insuranace company will cover it). I hope, and pray that will be the case. Their are 3 ways of administering glutathione(supposotories, inhaled(nebulization), and intravenous). We have tried the supposotories, and at the current time my Dad is on nebulization). The supposotories were much more effective(I guess the key to the success rate of glutathione is getting it directly into the blood. The nebulization not so effective in my eyes, but we can only afford the nebulization. The supposotories cost $179 per month. The nebulization cost $35.00 a month(which we can afford, if I can get my mother to believe that it is worthwhile( it says on the internet that glutathione can slow, or even halt the progression of parkinsons disease). My mother is looking for results the parkinsons patients on youtube got from glutathione being administered intravenously, I don't think that is possible with inhaled glutathione. So, my mindset at the time is how can I become educated on how to give my dad intranvenous glutathione. I will be contacting a nursing agencies, and pay for a nurse to show me how to give a person intranvenous injections. I can purchase the equipment needed(syringe, tubing etc) that is needed to give intranvenous injections. Liquid glutathione can be purchased off of the internet(even though the prices are something we cannot afford). I have done research, and found that a product call immunocal, and lifewave patches can cause the body to produce more of it on natural glutathione, and according to the internet(I am speaking more about the lifewave patches) can simulate what I saw on youtube with the intravenous glutathione(again prices very high for immunocal, and the lifewafe patches). Their was a person with parkinsons disease that put on the lifewave patches on youtube, and basically had the same results as a person taking intravenous glutathione would have. The results were immediate(even though I am skeptical about lifewave patchs(my mothers friend had some aliment that the lifewave patches were suppose to allieviate, but got no results). So basically what I am trying to do is to find something that we as a family can afford that can give the same or similar results that a parkinsons patient recieves when taking intravenous glutathione, that is, if I cannot find affordable liquid glutathione from off the internet(injectable glutathione) , because if I am not able to find affordable liquid glutathione we as a family wlll not be able to treat my father with intravenous glutathione. God knows I will be forever grateful if anyone has any suggestions to help me achieve this goal. Here are a couple of weblinks(from youtube), that indicates what happens when a parkinsons patient takes intravenous glutathione. Here they are: 1) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uQRCpdcGwIU 2)http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uEsl1aOyLHEand 3) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k9sVN7OIKMgfeature=BFalist=UUSWnNWGvnVTLD9y3oYgMXmg If you have any advice that can help us as a family achieve results
Re: CSHow to use Silver and DMSO
Hi Sandy, If you believe your post nasal drip and dry sore mouth is due to an infection then clearly CS would be just what you would want to use and adding some DMSO would help. I take 2 ounces of CS with about a 1/2 to 1/4 ounce of 99% strength DMSO combined every night due to an infected tooth and it has helped tremedously. I brush my teeth with it and then swish the CS/DMSO around and drink the rest. I hope you are familiar with how to use DMSO and know you always add the DMSO last to whatever your adding it to...it will cause some warmth to the mixture which is perfectly normal...also stir the mixture with a wooden popsicle stick or a clean wooden spoon handle or a glass stirer never plastic or metal. For your hip pain also use DMSO...it is excellent for such things. You might even rub some magnesium oil on the hip and let it absorb for a bit then rub on some DMSO with a cotton ball. May husband has lower back pain and this has helped him. Hope this helps. Sandy in Tex --- On Thu, 12/6/12, JERRY PRENDERGAST jsmpren...@sbcglobal.net wrote: From: JERRY PRENDERGAST jsmpren...@sbcglobal.net Subject: CSHow to use Silver and DMSO To: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Thursday, December 6, 2012, 8:59 PM Hi, Just bought a Silver-Gen and have been using the silver in my mouth and taking 2 oz two times a day. I have not seen improvement. I would like to know how others have used DMSO and Silver. thinking that I might need the penetration to see sucess. Also is there a discussion group or web site that would have good knowledge on DMSO and CS. I have post nasal drip and dry sore mouth. Also digestive problems. Also I would like any help for external use for hip pain. Thanks a lot. Sandy
Re: CSHow to use Silver and DMSO
Sandy in Texas's advice was spot on. I would only add that it is suggested that you should use glass containers for mixing DMSO as a rule. I know some use plastic spray bottles for mixing/applying DMSO but I am always a little leery of that. Just my opinion. Lola H. On Fri, Dec 7, 2012 at 12:49 PM, Sandy hollis302...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi Sandy, If you believe your post nasal drip and dry sore mouth is due to an infection then clearly CS would be just what you would want to use and adding some DMSO would help. I take 2 ounces of CS with about a 1/2 to 1/4 ounce of 99% strength DMSO combined every night due to an infected tooth and it has helped tremedously. I brush my teeth with it and then swish the CS/DMSO around and drink the rest. I hope you are familiar with how to use DMSO and know you always add the DMSO last to whatever your adding it to...it will cause some warmth to the mixture which is perfectly normal...also stir the mixture with a wooden popsicle stick or a clean wooden spoon handle or a glass stirer never plastic or metal. For your hip pain also use DMSO...it is excellent for such things. You might even rub some magnesium oil on the hip and let it absorb for a bit then rub on some DMSO with a cotton ball. May husband has lower back pain and this has helped him. Hope this helps. Sandy in Tex --- On *Thu, 12/6/12, JERRY PRENDERGAST jsmpren...@sbcglobal.net* wrote: From: JERRY PRENDERGAST jsmpren...@sbcglobal.net Subject: CSHow to use Silver and DMSO To: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Thursday, December 6, 2012, 8:59 PM Hi, Just bought a Silver-Gen and have been using the silver in my mouth and taking 2 oz two times a day. I have not seen improvement. I would like to know how others have used DMSO and Silver. thinking that I might need the penetration to see sucess. Also is there a discussion group or web site that would have good knowledge on DMSO and CS. I have post nasal drip and dry sore mouth. Also digestive problems. Also I would like any help for external use for hip pain. Thanks a lot. Sandy
Re: CSHow to use Silver and DMSO
I have had hip pain before (alot) till someone on this list wrote about a book called 'Pain Free' by Pete someone, the exercises helped tremendously, my back and hip pain are gone, if I quit doing the exercises, it will gradually be back, this book is awesome.. Kathy - Original Message - From: Sandy To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, December 07, 2012 11:49 AM Subject: Re: CSHow to use Silver and DMSO Hi Sandy, If you believe your post nasal drip and dry sore mouth is due to an infection then clearly CS would be just what you would want to use and adding some DMSO would help. I take 2 ounces of CS with about a 1/2 to 1/4 ounce of 99% strength DMSO combined every night due to an infected tooth and it has helped tremedously. I brush my teeth with it and then swish the CS/DMSO around and drink the rest. I hope you are familiar with how to use DMSO and know you always add the DMSO last to whatever your adding it to...it will cause some warmth to the mixture which is perfectly normal...also stir the mixture with a wooden popsicle stick or a clean wooden spoon handle or a glass stirer never plastic or metal. For your hip pain also use DMSO...it is excellent for such things. You might even rub some magnesium oil on the hip and let it absorb for a bit then rub on some DMSO with a cotton ball. May husband has lower back pain and this has helped him. Hope this helps. Sandy in Tex --- On Thu, 12/6/12, JERRY PRENDERGAST jsmpren...@sbcglobal.net wrote: From: JERRY PRENDERGAST jsmpren...@sbcglobal.net Subject: CSHow to use Silver and DMSO To: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Thursday, December 6, 2012, 8:59 PM Hi, Just bought a Silver-Gen and have been using the silver in my mouth and taking 2 oz two times a day. I have not seen improvement. I would like to know how others have used DMSO and Silver. thinking that I might need the penetration to see sucess. Also is there a discussion group or web site that would have good knowledge on DMSO and CS. I have post nasal drip and dry sore mouth. Also digestive problems. Also I would like any help for external use for hip pain. Thanks a lot. Sandy
Re: CSHIV success with CS?liposomes?
Dee I wouldnt be concerned about liposomal sublinqual spray having negative effects at all. What I said about the macrophages and all that was just interesting things I found in Pub Med papers surrounding the issue of liposome absorption. The reduced macrophage action was due to large IV doses. In combination with a toxin called clodronate, they can wipe out your macrophages this way. It shows that macrophages consume liposomes, and I think thats why I brought up. My question was; are oral liposomes really being absorbed and is there evidence that oral liposomes vastly increase cellular uptake. If you run across an answer, let me know. Your sublingual is fine. M On 12/7/2012 5:56 AM, Dorothy Fitzpatrick wrote: Re: CSHIV success with CS?liposomes? So from this it would seem that supplementing with Vit D3 is a good thing as most of us *don*'t get the sort of sun exposure that we need. I have read that Vit D3 has the ability to trigger the cancer cells to self-destruct and this is why it has been found that cancer patients have very low levels of it. I asked the question because I use the Now brand of liposomal sublingual spray version containing both Vit D3 and Vit K2. It was the liposomal part which bothered me because of your information. dee *From: *mgperrault mgperra...@aol.com *Reply-To: *silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com *Date: *Thu, 06 Dec 2012 19:31:44 -0700 *To: *silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com *Subject: *Re: CSHIV success with CS?liposomes? *Resent-From: *silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com *Resent-Date: *Thu, 6 Dec 2012 18:31:43 -0800 How did this get started? Maybe because I said that liposomes can transiently decrease macrophage activity and then someone said vit D is a rat poison as a rebuttal, trying I think to say that even well known healthy things can be toxic depending on the dose.. Its not only the quantity but how well your body balances things with other hormones and vitamins. Excess calcium circulating in the system can be toxic. Vit D can cause this. Probably everybody knows Dr Mercola is big on Vit D Its off topic but here is a little Mercola extract; sun exposure or the use of a safe tanning bed are the best options to optimize your vitamin D levels. You cannot overdose when getting your vitamin D from sun exposure, as your body has the ability to self-regulate and only make what it needs. If these options are not available, a supplement can be used, but keep the following in mind: * According to the most recent findings by Carole Baggerly, founder of GrassrootsHealth http://www.grassrootshealth.net/ , her research of nearly 10,000 people shows the ideal adult dose appears to be *8,000 IU's a day* to get most into the healthy range. * When you do supplement with vitamin D, you'll only want to supplement with natural vitamin D3 (cholecalciferol). * As an aside, there is evidence that the safety of vitamin D is dependent on vitamin K, and that vitamin D toxicity (although very rare with the D3 form) is actually aggravated by vitamin K2 deficiency. So if you take oral vitamin D, ideally you should take vitamin K2 as well http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2011/10/27/the-stealth-vitamin-that-can-improve-your-insulin-sensitivity.aspx or use organic fermented foods that are high in vitamin K2, as you need about 150 mcg per day. * The normal 25-hydroxyvitamin D lab range is between 20-56 ng/ml. But, this conventional range *is really a sign of deficiency*, and is too broad to be ideal. In fact, your vitamin D level should /not/ be below 32 ng/ml, and any levels below 20 ng/ml are considered serious deficiency states, increasing your risk of cancer and autoimmune diseases like multiple sclerosis and rheumatoid arthritis, just to name a few. * * Remember that if you were in the sun nearly every day with large amounts of your skin exposed and not taking any oral vitamin D, your level would be around 100 ng/ml.
RE: CSHow to use Silver and DMSO
http://www.amazon.com/books Pain Free - By Pete Egoscue _ From: Kathy Tankersley [mailto:babychicks...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, December 07, 2012 9:57 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSHow to use Silver and DMSO I have had hip pain before (alot) till someone on this list wrote about a book called 'Pain Free' by Pete someone, the exercises helped tremendously, my back and hip pain are gone, if I quit doing the exercises, it will gradually be back, this book is awesome.. Kathy - Original Message - From: Sandy mailto:hollis302...@yahoo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, December 07, 2012 11:49 AM Subject: Re: CSHow to use Silver and DMSO Hi Sandy, If you believe your post nasal drip and dry sore mouth is due to an infection then clearly CS would be just what you would want to use and adding some DMSO would help. I take 2 ounces of CS with about a 1/2 to 1/4 ounce of 99% strength DMSO combined every night due to an infected tooth and it has helped tremedously. I brush my teeth with it and then swish the CS/DMSO around and drink the rest. I hope you are familiar with how to use DMSO and know you always add the DMSO last to whatever your adding it to...it will cause some warmth to the mixture which is perfectly normal...also stir the mixture with a wooden popsicle stick or a clean wooden spoon handle or a glass stirer never plastic or metal. For your hip pain also use DMSO...it is excellent for such things. You might even rub some magnesium oil on the hip and let it absorb for a bit then rub on some DMSO with a cotton ball. May husband has lower back pain and this has helped him. Hope this helps. Sandy in Tex --- On Thu, 12/6/12, JERRY PRENDERGAST jsmpren...@sbcglobal.net wrote: From: JERRY PRENDERGAST jsmpren...@sbcglobal.net Subject: CSHow to use Silver and DMSO To: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Thursday, December 6, 2012, 8:59 PM Hi, Just bought a Silver-Gen and have been using the silver in my mouth and taking 2 oz two times a day. I have not seen improvement. I would like to know how others have used DMSO and Silver. thinking that I might need the penetration to see sucess. Also is there a discussion group or web site that would have good knowledge on DMSO and CS. I have post nasal drip and dry sore mouth. Also digestive problems. Also I would like any help for external use for hip pain. Thanks a lot. Sandy
Re: CSHow to use Silver and DMSO
So true, Lola, good point and I agree. I always mix my DMSO in glass containers because like you I am very concerned about using any type of plastic. I recommend that everyone who considers using DMSO first familiarize themselves with it. It's a wonderful natural product but very powerful as you no doubt know. :) I like that Brooks Bradley has given us a lot of good advice about using DMSO with CS and other natural products. Sandy in Tex --- On Fri, 12/7/12, phoenix23002 tds.net phoenix23...@tds.net wrote: From: phoenix23002 tds.net phoenix23...@tds.net Subject: Re: CSHow to use Silver and DMSO To: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Friday, December 7, 2012, 11:56 AM Sandy in Texas's advice was spot on. I would only add that it is suggested that you should use glass containers for mixing DMSO as a rule. I know some use plastic spray bottles for mixing/applying DMSO but I am always a little leery of that. Just my opinion. Lola H.
RE: CSHow to use Silver and DMSO
1. Agreed on glass being better. DMSO always brittles and cracks plastic around here. 2. How do you keep DMSO from itching for days after use? _ From: Sandy [mailto:hollis302...@yahoo.com] Sent: Friday, December 07, 2012 10:19 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSHow to use Silver and DMSO So true, Lola, good point and I agree. I always mix my DMSO in glass containers because like you I am very concerned about using any type of plastic. I recommend that everyone who considers using DMSO first familiarize themselves with it. It's a wonderful natural product but very powerful as you no doubt know. :) I like that Brooks Bradley has given us a lot of good advice about using DMSO with CS and other natural products. Sandy in Tex --- On Fri, 12/7/12, phoenix23002 tds.net phoenix23...@tds.net wrote: From: phoenix23002 tds.net phoenix23...@tds.net Subject: Re: CSHow to use Silver and DMSO To: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Friday, December 7, 2012, 11:56 AM Sandy in Texas's advice was spot on. I would only add that it is suggested that you should use glass containers for mixing DMSO as a rule. I know some use plastic spray bottles for mixing/applying DMSO but I am always a little leery of that. Just my opinion. Lola H.
Re: CSHIV success with CS?liposomes?
Thank you M it is good to know and it is good to have all the information available so keep it coming! dee From: mgperrault mgperra...@aol.com Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Fri, 07 Dec 2012 11:05:51 -0700 To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSHIV success with CS?liposomes? Resent-From: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Resent-Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2012 10:05:52 -0800 Dee I wouldnt be concerned about liposomal sublinqual spray having negative effects at all. What I said about the macrophages and all that was just interesting things I found in Pub Med papers surrounding the issue of liposome absorption. The reduced macrophage action was due to large IV doses. In combination with a toxin called clodronate, they can wipe out your macrophages this way. It shows that macrophages consume liposomes, and I think thats why I brought up. My question was; are oral liposomes really being absorbed and is there evidence that oral liposomes vastly increase cellular uptake. If you run across an answer, let me know.Your sublingual is fine. M
RE: CSHow to use Silver and DMSO
1. Not only does DMSO cause some plastics to become brittle but it will literally dissolve some plastics, rubber and latex which will cause it to be drawn into the body. Extreme care should always be taken when not using glass to mix or use DMSO. 2. Some people use aloe vera gel or emu oil to help with the itching after the DMSO has absorbed into the skin. DMSO causes the histamine to release which causes the itching but after using it in the same area for a while the histamine will deplete and no longer itch or as badly anyway. This is from Garnet the person who owns [I'm not sure if she still does] the DMSO yahoo group... The itching that is immediate after DMSO application is due to the release of histamine from mast cells in the skin. Once this depot of histamine has been depleted with further use of DMSO on the same area in the following hours or days the itching upon application will subside. Itching can be from drying of the skin. I use Emu Oil because it is such a wonderful moisturizer and not at all greasy, soaks right in. It is also an anti-inflammatory and a carrier that approaches DMSO as far as subderm delivery goes. Aloe Vera gel is also a good one and either can be used before the DMSO to prevent drying..Garnet Sandy --- On Fri, 12/7/12, Dr. James McCourt dr...@earthlink.net wrote: Agreed on glass being better. DMSO always brittles and cracks plastic around here. How do you keep DMSO from itching for days after use?
Re: CSGluthathione for Dad/need advice/Parkinsons disease
Yes I would also recommed you to try liposomal formula, you can buy it for a fraction of the cost (compared to the other methods) or even make it yourself. Furthermore liposomal form is supposed to be even more effective than intravenous delivery. You can check out more here: http://www.liposomalglutathione.com/ Regards, André 2012/12/7 polo dah...@centurytel.net: Elbert, If I were you, I would consider making a liposomal formula of gluthathione. You can make it very similar to how Vitamin C is liposomized. In fact, if I were you, I would combine both Vit C and gluthathione in a protocol. This should save you huge dollars if it seems effective for your dad. doug - Original Message - From: Elbert vaughn To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, December 07, 2012 11:29 AM Subject: CSGluthathione for Dad/need advice/Parkinsons disease Dear Silver list family, I would greatly appreciate any advice that could help me make the right descision in regards to the treating of my dad with Glutathione therapy. I have become aware that this antioxidant(we all produce it, but it diminishes as we get older), gives unbelievable results when given to Parkinsons patients(you can go to youtube, and put parkinsons patients being treated with glutathione, and see what I mean). Their are parkinsons patients when taking intravenous glutathione that are walking without assistence(a hour after taking glutathione), speaking cohenrently(a hour or more after taking gluthathione). It works that fast. I could not believe what I was seeing. The only problem is that it cost a fortune(many hundreds or even a thousand dollar per month or more(has to be given by a trained proffesional in a clinical setting, because I heard that you could do harm(possibly kill someone if you do not know how to give intravenous injections, which I don't know how to do). I don't believe you can get a prescription for glutahione, because it is not a drug, even though on the internet it says you can get a prescription for Glutathione(generally used for treating arthrithis, and asthma). We will have a appointment with my Dads neurologist to see if it is possible to get a precription(and hopefully if he gives us a prescription for Glutathione his insuranace company will cover it). I hope, and pray that will be the case. Their are 3 ways of administering glutathione(supposotories, inhaled(nebulization), and intravenous). We have tried the supposotories, and at the current time my Dad is on nebulization). The supposotories were much more effective(I guess the key to the success rate of glutathione is getting it directly into the blood. The nebulization not so effective in my eyes, but we can only afford the nebulization. The supposotories cost $179 per month. The nebulization cost $35.00 a month(which we can afford, if I can get my mother to believe that it is worthwhile( it says on the internet that glutathione can slow, or even halt the progression of parkinsons disease). My mother is looking for results the parkinsons patients on youtube got from glutathione being administered intravenously, I don't think that is possible with inhaled glutathione. So, my mindset at the time is how can I become educated on how to give my dad intranvenous glutathione. I will be contacting a nursing agencies, and pay for a nurse to show me how to give a person intranvenous injections. I can purchase the equipment needed(syringe, tubing etc) that is needed to give intranvenous injections. Liquid glutathione can be purchased off of the internet(even though the prices are something we cannot afford). I have done research, and found that a product call immunocal, and lifewave patches can cause the body to produce more of it on natural glutathione, and according to the internet(I am speaking more about the lifewave patches) can simulate what I saw on youtube with the intravenous glutathione(again prices very high for immunocal, and the lifewafe patches). Their was a person with parkinsons disease that put on the lifewave patches on youtube, and basically had the same results as a person taking intravenous glutathione would have. The results were immediate(even though I am skeptical about lifewave patchs(my mothers friend had some aliment that the lifewave patches were suppose to allieviate, but got no results). So basically what I am trying to do is to find something that we as a family can afford that can give the same or similar results that a parkinsons patient recieves when taking intravenous glutathione, that is, if I cannot find affordable liquid glutathione from off the internet(injectable glutathione) , because if I am not able to find affordable liquid glutathione we as a family wlll not be able to treat my father with intravenous glutathione. God knows I will be forever grateful if anyone has any suggestions to help me achieve this goal. Here are a couple of weblinks(from youtube),
RE: CSVITAMIN D DEFFICIENCY
Bravo. _ From: Neville Munn [mailto:one.red...@hotmail.com] Sent: Friday, December 07, 2012 2:30 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSVITAMIN D DEFFICIENCY I started a new topic so I could air my views on this ridiculous Vit D deficiency BS. I live in Australia for Christ sake, we get enough sun here that if you walked around under it for too long your body fluids would start to simmer, and eventually boil inside your damn skin, and they waffle on and diagnose people with Vit D deficiency.?? Shear and utter lunacy!!! Work it out for heavens sake. WHY and HOW can Homo Sapien in the 21st century possibly be lacking in ANY vitamin, AND mineral if it comes to that, because I have no doubt we are surely lacking in bucket loads of those too if they cared to investigate??? We are slowly being poisoned, deprived of natural nutrients in pretty much EVERYTHING we drink and consume, not forgetting those microwave terminators that we put food and liquid into before consumption. If this was a natural occurrence, we would never have progressed past the Stone Age??? This lacking of vitamins and minerals is being forced upon every Homo Sapien on the planet pretty much, and with the dollar and profit as motivation. There is so much BS being spread around by those little people in their white dust coats that people are actually believing everything some organisation puts out. The FDA, our TGA and any other funded mob of laboratory Frankensteins all have vested interests in something OTHER than your and my health in mind!! There, I've got that off my chest, nobody need reply, just considered it was time for a voice of sanity and reason to be heard. N.
RE: CSVITAMIN D DEFFICIENCY and the Great State of Maine
Hi, Neville -- your comment seems logical indeed. However, I live on the coast of Maine, where we often have 2 days of sun a month whether we need it or not.. Heavy clouds often. We often have to bundle up because of the cold and wind. SAD (Seasonal Affective Disorder) is a noticeable problem in winter for many. A couple of years ago, I began taking a little Vitamin D daily. I'm a naturally cheerful and upbeat sort at age 77. I forgot about it, and was surprised to feel a noticeable lift after a couple of weeks. I had done nothing else different. Judy Down Maine -Original Message- From: Neville Munn [mailto:one.red...@hotmail.com] Sent: Friday, December 07, 2012 5:30 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSVITAMIN D DEFFICIENCY I started a new topic so I could air my views on this ridiculous Vit D deficiency BS. I live in Australia for Christ sake, we get enough sun here that if you walked around under it for too long your body fluids would start to simmer, and eventually boil inside your damn skin, and they waffle on and diagnose people with Vit D deficiency.?? Shear and utter lunacy!!! Work it out for heavens sake. WHY and HOW can Homo Sapien in the 21st century possibly be lacking in ANY vitamin, AND mineral if it comes to that, because I have no doubt we are surely lacking in bucket loads of those too if they cared to investigate??? We are slowly being poisoned, deprived of natural nutrients in pretty much EVERYTHING we drink and consume, not forgetting those microwave terminators that we put food and liquid into before consumption. If this was a natural occurrence, we would never have progressed past the Stone Age??? This lacking of vitamins and minerals is being forced upon every Homo Sapien on the planet pretty much, and with the dollar and profit as motivation. There is so much BS being spread around by those little people in their white dust coats that people are actually believing everything some organisation puts out. The FDA, our TGA and any other funded mob of laboratory Frankensteins all have vested interests in something OTHER than your and my health in mind!! There, I've got that off my chest, nobody need reply, just considered it was time for a voice of sanity and reason to be heard. N.
RE: CSVITAMIN D DEFFICIENCY and the Great State of Maine
Gee, I hope nobody misunderstands me here and starts to think I'm attacking anyone, this is just how I see things. I guess they don't get much sun in other places too but I seriously doubt there would still be a population there over the centuries up to the present time? I'm not having a go at you here either Judy, one of my failings is not having a way with words, I just tend to spit it out and tie pretty ribbons around it afterwards if necessary g. It's just how I see things on this planet of ours, well if I were to be honest, it's seemingly and increasingly the planet of somebody else's nowadays. Two days of sun a month whether we need it or not...Love that sense of humour g. I'd swap you in an instant. Send some of those clouds this way, and put some water in with them. The older I get the more I'm developing a hatred for that big fireball in the sky, enough is enough here, it isn't funny anymore g. N.From: judydownma...@roadrunner.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSVITAMIN D DEFFICIENCY and the Great State of Maine Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2012 19:14:45 -0500 Hi, Neville -- your comment seems logical indeed. However, I live on the coast of Maine, where we often have 2 days of sun a month whether we need it or not.. Heavy clouds often. We often have to bundle up because of the cold and wind. SAD (Seasonal Affective Disorder) is a noticeable problem in winter for many. A couple of years ago, I began taking a little Vitamin D daily. I'm a naturally cheerful and upbeat sort at age 77. I forgot about it, and was surprised to feel a noticeable lift after a couple of weeks. I had done nothing else different. Judy Down Maine -Original Message- From: Neville Munn [mailto:one.red...@hotmail.com] Sent: Friday, December 07, 2012 5:30 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSVITAMIN D DEFFICIENCY
Re: CSVITAMIN D DEFFICIENCY and the Great State of Maine
HELLO MATES: yA MIGHT WANNA CHECK THIS VIDEO ABOUT VIT.D http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2lRtx-4_FOY On Fri, Dec 7, 2012 at 7:36 PM, Neville Munn one.red...@hotmail.com wrote: Gee, I hope nobody misunderstands me here and starts to think I'm attacking anyone, this is just how I see things. I guess they don't get much sun in other places too but I seriously doubt there would still be a population there over the centuries up to the present time? I'm not having a go at you here either Judy, one of my failings is not having a way with words, I just tend to spit it out and tie pretty ribbons around it afterwards if necessary g. It's just how I see things on this planet of ours, well if I were to be honest, it's seemingly and increasingly the planet of somebody else's nowadays. Two days of sun a month whether we need it or not...Love that sense of humour g. I'd swap you in an instant. Send some of those clouds this way, and put some water in with them. The older I get the more I'm developing a hatred for that big fireball in the sky, enough is enough here, it isn't funny anymore g. N. -- From: judydownma...@roadrunner.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSVITAMIN D DEFFICIENCY and the Great State of Maine Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2012 19:14:45 -0500 Hi, Neville -- your comment seems logical indeed. However, I live on the coast of Maine, where we often have 2 days of sun a month whether we need it or not.. Heavy clouds often. We often have to bundle up because of the cold and wind. SAD (Seasonal Affective Disorder) is a noticeable problem in winter for many. A couple of years ago, I began taking a little Vitamin D daily. I'm a naturally cheerful and upbeat sort at age 77. I forgot about it, and was surprised to feel a noticeable lift after a couple of weeks. I had done nothing else different. Judy Down Maine -Original Message- *From:* Neville Munn [mailto:one.red...@hotmail.com] *Sent:* Friday, December 07, 2012 5:30 PM *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com *Subject:* CSVITAMIN D DEFFICIENCY -- Eph 1:2 Grace be to you, and peace, from God our Father, and from the Lord Jesus Christ. Gary Lennie
Re: CSVITAMIN D DEFFICIENCY and the Great State of Maine
I live in TX and we have plenty of sun...however, I have a thyroid disease and that interferes with the up take of Vit D. which has made clacium to not be properly assimilated, so now I also have bone issues etc, etc. There more to it than standing in the sun. Edith in TX -Original Message- From: Judy Knowlton judydownma...@roadrunner.com To: silver-list silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Fri, Dec 7, 2012 6:14 pm Subject: RE: CSVITAMIN D DEFFICIENCY and the Great State of Maine Hi, Neville -- your comment seems logical indeed. However, I live on the coast of Maine, where we often have 2 days of sun a month whether we need it or not.. Heavy clouds often. We often have to bundle up because of the cold and wind. SAD (Seasonal Affective Disorder) is a noticeable problem in winter for many. A couple of years ago, I began taking a little Vitamin D daily. I'm a naturally cheerful and upbeat sort at age 77. I forgot about it, and was surprised to feel a noticeable lift after a couple of weeks. I had done nothing else different. Judy Down Maine -Original Message- From: Neville Munn [mailto:one.red...@hotmail.com] Sent: Friday, December 07, 2012 5:30 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSVITAMIN D DEFFICIENCY I started a new topic so I could air my views on this ridiculous Vit D deficiency BS. I live in Australia for Christ sake, we get enough sun here that if you walked around under it for too long your body fluids would start to simmer, and eventually boil inside your damn skin, and they waffle on and diagnose people with Vit D deficiency.?? Shear and utter lunacy!!! Work it out for heavens sake. WHY and HOW can Homo Sapien in the 21st century possibly be lacking in ANY vitamin, AND mineral if it comes to that, because I have no doubt we are surely lacking in bucket loads of those too if they cared to investigate??? We are slowly being poisoned, deprived of natural nutrients in pretty much EVERYTHING we drink and consume, not forgetting those microwave terminators that we put food and liquid into before consumption. If this was a natural occurrence, we would never have progressed past the Stone Age??? This lacking of vitamins and minerals is being forced upon every Homo Sapien on the planet pretty much, and with the dollar and profit as motivation. There is so much BS being spread around by those little people in their white dust coats that people are actually believing everything some organisation puts out. The FDA, our TGA and any other funded mob of laboratory Frankensteins all have vested interests in something OTHER than your and my health in mind!! There, I've got that off my chest, nobody need reply, just considered it was time for a voice of sanity and reason to be heard. N.
CSCS and DMSO more quesstions
Hi, Thank you all for your great suggestions on CS and DMSO. Joined the suggested discussion group and ordered the DMSO books. I have a few more question 1.How long should CS and DMSO be left on the skin... When can one shower? 2.I understand some people nebulize with it My container for the nebulizer where I would put the CS and DMSO in is plastic.I understand glass is better but they do not make a glass container. Wondering what you think of that. 3. How long will a mixture of CS and DMSO last? Minutes hours or days? 4. Someone asked what I have... Have been diagnosed with fibrylmyalgia and MCS Multiple chemical ssensitivity and ideopathic gastroparesis--stomach just slows down or freezes, IBS, mold sensitivity, possibly Lyme causing these symptoms . I have a young adult son who also has many of these symptoms. I really do not know what is the root cause of all of this. We eat very well,use safe products, etc. I want to give CS and DMSO a good try to see if it can help in some way as not much else of the many things we have done have made much of a difference. This is a great helpful site. Thanks, Sandy
RE: CSHow to use Silver and DMSO
The DMSO I buy comes in a plastic bottle...? Sandy hollis302...@yahoo.com wrote: = 1. Not only does DMSO cause some plastics to become brittle but it will literally dissolve some plastics, rubber and latex which will cause it to be drawn into the body. Extreme care should always be taken when not using glass to mix or use DMSO. 2. Some people use aloe vera gel or emu oil to help with the itching after the DMSO has absorbed into the skin. DMSO causes the histamine to release which causes the itching but after using it in the same area for a while the histamine will deplete and no longer itch or as badly anyway. This is from Garnet the person who owns [I'm not sure if she still does] the DMSO yahoo group... The itching that is immediate after DMSO application is due to the release of histamine from mast cells in the skin. Once this depot of histamine has been depleted with further use of DMSO on the same area in the following hours or days the itching upon application will subside. Itching can be from drying of the skin. I use Emu Oil because it is such a wonderful moisturizer and not at all greasy, soaks right in. It is also an anti-inflammatory and a carrier that approaches DMSO as far as subderm delivery goes. Aloe Vera gel is also a good one and either can be used before the DMSO to prevent drying..Garnet Sandy --- On Fri, 12/7/12, Dr. James McCourt dr...@earthlink.net wrote: Agreed on glass being better. DMSO always brittles and cracks plastic around here. How do you keep DMSO from itching for days after use? -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSVITAMIN D DEFFICIENCY and the Great State of Maine
See? Life is simply perfect in its imperfection. It just started raining again here, and is going to be 38 degrees. Because of the wind it will feel like 35. We have been soaked much of the last few months Being on the Eastern edge of the continent, we get everything. The Big Pond seems to do something with the moisture and temperature change. We also dom't lose power often even when inland Maine is iced in. Our standing joke is, the only time we lose power is when a drunk runs into a pole. (Pretty much true!) If I could, I would package some of our rain for you. Perhaps I could dehydrate it, send it in a box, and you could rehydrate as you need it? JDM BTW. This is still the place I want to live! -Original Message- From: Neville Munn [mailto:one.red...@hotmail.com] Sent: Friday, December 07, 2012 7:37 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSVITAMIN D DEFFICIENCY and the Great State of Maine Gee, I hope nobody misunderstands me here and starts to think I'm attacking anyone, this is just how I see things. I guess they don't get much sun in other places too but I seriously doubt there would still be a population there over the centuries up to the present time? I'm not having a go at you here either Judy, one of my failings is not having a way with words, I just tend to spit it out and tie pretty ribbons around it afterwards if necessary g. It's just how I see things on this planet of ours, well if I were to be honest, it's seemingly and increasingly the planet of somebody else's nowadays. Two days of sun a month whether we need it or not...Love that sense of humour g. I'd swap you in an instant. Send some of those clouds this way, and put some water in with them. The older I get the more I'm developing a hatred for that big fireball in the sky, enough is enough here, it isn't funny anymore g. N. -- -- From: judydownma...@roadrunner.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSVITAMIN D DEFFICIENCY and the Great State of Maine Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2012 19:14:45 -0500 Hi, Neville -- your comment seems logical indeed. However, I live on the coast of Maine, where we often have 2 days of sun a month whether we need it or not.. Heavy clouds often. We often have to bundle up because of the cold and wind. SAD (Seasonal Affective Disorder) is a noticeable problem in winter for many. A couple of years ago, I began taking a little Vitamin D daily. I'm a naturally cheerful and upbeat sort at age 77. I forgot about it, and was surprised to feel a noticeable lift after a couple of weeks. I had done nothing else different. Judy Down Maine -Original Message- From: Neville Munn [mailto:one.red...@hotmail.com] Sent: Friday, December 07, 2012 5:30 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSVITAMIN D DEFFICIENCY
RE: CSVITAMIN D DEFFICIENCY and the Great State of Maine
With much more of life being lived indoors and dermatologists warning people to stay out of the sun and to use sunscreen when they don't, it wouldn't be surprising that Vitamin D levels are lower in the general population now than they were historically. Getting one's 25 OH-D levels checked eliminates speculation and conspiracy concerns. Terry Neville Munn one.red...@hotmail.com wrote: = Gee, I hope nobody misunderstands me here and starts to think I'm attacking anyone, this is just how I see things. I guess they don't get much sun in other places too but I seriously doubt there would still be a population there over the centuries up to the present time? I'm not having a go at you here either Judy, one of my failings is not having a way with words, I just tend to spit it out and tie pretty ribbons around it afterwards if necessary g. It's just how I see things on this planet of ours, well if I were to be honest, it's seemingly and increasingly the planet of somebody else's nowadays. Two days of sun a month whether we need it or not...Love that sense of humour g. I'd swap you in an instant. Send some of those clouds this way, and put some water in with them. The older I get the more I'm developing a hatred for that big fireball in the sky, enough is enough here, it isn't funny anymore g. N.From: judydownma...@roadrunner.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSVITAMIN D DEFFICIENCY and the Great State of Maine Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2012 19:14:45 -0500 Hi, Neville -- your comment seems logical indeed. However, I live on the coast of Maine, where we often have 2 days of sun a month whether we need it or not.. Heavy clouds often. We often have to bundle up because of the cold and wind. SAD (Seasonal Affective Disorder) is a noticeable problem in winter for many. A couple of years ago, I began taking a little Vitamin D daily. I'm a naturally cheerful and upbeat sort at age 77. I forgot about it, and was surprised to feel a noticeable lift after a couple of weeks. I had done nothing else different. Judy Down Maine -Original Message- From: Neville Munn [mailto:one.red...@hotmail.com] Sent: Friday, December 07, 2012 5:30 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSVITAMIN D DEFFICIENCY -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSHow to use Silver and DMSO
I have found that coconut oil is wonderful stuff that can be applied to counteract the drying effects of DMSO. If I can eat it, I sure don't worry about it being absorbed by my skin. Lola H. On Fri, Dec 7, 2012 at 8:16 PM, slickpic...@cox.net wrote: The DMSO I buy comes in a plastic bottle...? Sandy hollis302...@yahoo.com wrote: = 1. Not only does DMSO cause some plastics to become brittle but it will literally dissolve some plastics, rubber and latex which will cause it to be drawn into the body. Extreme care should always be taken when not using glass to mix or use DMSO. 2. Some people use aloe vera gel or emu oil to help with the itching after the DMSO has absorbed into the skin. DMSO causes the histamine to release which causes the itching but after using it in the same area for a while the histamine will deplete and no longer itch or as badly anyway. This is from Garnet the person who owns [I'm not sure if she still does] the DMSO yahoo group... The itching that is immediate after DMSO application is due to the release of histamine from mast cells in the skin. Once this depot of histamine has been depleted with further use of DMSO on the same area in the following hours or days the itching upon application will subside. Itching can be from drying of the skin. I use Emu Oil because it is such a wonderful moisturizer and not at all greasy, soaks right in. It is also an anti-inflammatory and a carrier that approaches DMSO as far as subderm delivery goes. Aloe Vera gel is also a good one and either can be used before the DMSO to prevent drying..Garnet Sandy --- On Fri, 12/7/12, Dr. James McCourt dr...@earthlink.net wrote: Agreed on glass being better. DMSO always brittles and cracks plastic around here. How do you keep DMSO from itching for days after use? -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subjectunsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSVITAMIN D DEFFICIENCY and the Great State of Maine
Take it that you have died today, and your life's story is ended; and henceforward regard what further time may be given you as an uncovenanted surplus, and live it out in harmony with nature. -Meditations, Marcus Aurelius _ From: Judy Knowlton [mailto:judydownma...@roadrunner.com] Sent: Friday, December 07, 2012 4:15 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSVITAMIN D DEFFICIENCY and the Great State of Maine Hi, Neville -- your comment seems logical indeed. However, I live on the coast of Maine, where we often have 2 days of sun a month whether we need it or not.. Heavy clouds often. We often have to bundle up because of the cold and wind. SAD (Seasonal Affective Disorder) is a noticeable problem in winter for many. A couple of years ago, I began taking a little Vitamin D daily. I'm a naturally cheerful and upbeat sort at age 77. I forgot about it, and was surprised to feel a noticeable lift after a couple of weeks. I had done nothing else different. Judy Down Maine -Original Message- From: Neville Munn [mailto:one.red...@hotmail.com] Sent: Friday, December 07, 2012 5:30 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSVITAMIN D DEFFICIENCY I started a new topic so I could air my views on this ridiculous Vit D deficiency BS. I live in Australia for Christ sake, we get enough sun here that if you walked around under it for too long your body fluids would start to simmer, and eventually boil inside your damn skin, and they waffle on and diagnose people with Vit D deficiency.?? Shear and utter lunacy!!! Work it out for heavens sake. WHY and HOW can Homo Sapien in the 21st century possibly be lacking in ANY vitamin, AND mineral if it comes to that, because I have no doubt we are surely lacking in bucket loads of those too if they cared to investigate??? We are slowly being poisoned, deprived of natural nutrients in pretty much EVERYTHING we drink and consume, not forgetting those microwave terminators that we put food and liquid into before consumption. If this was a natural occurrence, we would never have progressed past the Stone Age??? This lacking of vitamins and minerals is being forced upon every Homo Sapien on the planet pretty much, and with the dollar and profit as motivation. There is so much BS being spread around by those little people in their white dust coats that people are actually believing everything some organisation puts out. The FDA, our TGA and any other funded mob of laboratory Frankensteins all have vested interests in something OTHER than your and my health in mind!! There, I've got that off my chest, nobody need reply, just considered it was time for a voice of sanity and reason to be heard. N.
Re: CSCS and DMSO more quesstions
Sandy.. If you mix DMSO and CS and apply it to your skin, the CS will be carried right into the body along with the DMSO. When applying DMSO by itself, the recommendations are to leave it on for about 15 - 30 minutes, making sure that nothing comes in contact with the area during this time, then gently wipe off any excess or residue. Make sure that you only mix the DMSO with distilled water. Remember, DMSO is a powerful solvent and 'carrier' and respect that aspect of it. You should be able to shower after the 1/2 hour, just use an organic soap. You should be using that anyway. One huge caution... don't rub the DMSO, just dab it on or just rub a time or two. Don't 'work' it in. The more your rub, the more irritated the skin will become. After a few applications, there will be little if any reaction. I have been using DMSO for about 2 yrs now and I even drink it from time to time. My first concern when contemplating using DMSO was finding the best quality product I could find. I know some people get DMSO from Amazon or buy a container of it at their friendly feed store, but.. nooo... I couldn't do that. I'm way too cautious or I am too chicken.. not sure which. I know of only two places that I trust to purchase high quality DMSO. One is www.dmso.bz (no .com on the end) and the other is www.apricotsfromgod.com. The latter is a little pricey but his site says it is pharmaceutical grade. The dmso.bz product is a 70/30% mix with a little honey added. What I really like about the dmso.bz is that there is little residual odor. That is another of the problems with using DMSO. You will have a little garlicky odor. Some have likened it to a 'wet socks' smell..lol.. not pleasant. My hubby hasn't complained about me 'smelling' yet so I don't think it is a huge problem with the products I am using. Also, the dmso.bz site has lots of good info about how to use/store/mix DMSO and when I left an email with a question and my phone number, they actually called me and were very helpful. All that being said, I am not sure I would just routinely mix CS and DMSO except in instances like an insect bite or some little infected area. I can't address your nebulizer questions. I have never done that with either product. As for how long the mixture should last? DMSO should almost always be diluted somewhat... 1/2 and 1/2 with distilled water or thereabouts. The book almost always used that dilution for most applications. DMSO itself doesn't evaporate. The CS will and the distilled water you use with the DMSO will also evaporate. So.. the mixture doesn't go 'bad', it will just get more concentrated. I keep a DMSO mixture ready to go in a little shot glass covered with a little piece of cardboard over it for ready access when needed. I keep the glass covered more to keep contanimants (sp) out then to retard evaporation. Now... how the DMSO and the silver particles in the CS interact? I have no clue. And I have no clue how long the silver will hold in suspension. So, maybe the concoction should be made up fresh each time. Have you been checked for Lyme disease? Do you use an oil furnace? Do you have a well instead of city water? Have you had it checked for purity? It sounds like you have something going on health-wise. You probably need to play detective if you haven't already. You also might be gluten sensitive. Good luck, my friend. And if you have any DMSO questions, just holler. Oh.. just remembered. Supposedly, guaifenesin has helped some people with fibromyalgia. Just google guaifenesin fibromyalgia and you can research the protocol. Lola H. On Fri, Dec 7, 2012 at 8:03 PM, JERRY PRENDERGAST jsmpren...@sbcglobal.netwrote: Hi, Thank you all for your great suggestions on CS and DMSO. Joined the suggested discussion group and ordered the DMSO books. I have a few more question 1.How long should CS and DMSO be left on the skin... When can one shower? 2.I understand some people nebulize with it My container for the nebulizer where I would put the CS and DMSO in is plastic.I understand glass is better but they do not make a glass container. Wondering what you think of that. 3. How long will a mixture of CS and DMSO last? Minutes hours or days? 4. Someone asked what I have... Have been diagnosed with fibrylmyalgia and MCS Multiple chemical ssensitivity and ideopathic gastroparesis--stomach just slows down or freezes, IBS, mold sensitivity, possibly Lyme causing these symptoms . I have a young adult son who also has many of these symptoms. I really do not know what is the root cause of all of this. We eat very well, use safe products, etc. I want to give CS and DMSO a good try to see if it can help in some way as not much else of the many things we have done have made much of a difference. This is a great helpful site. Thanks, Sandy
Re: CSHow to use Silver and DMSO
Brent, I found an old video on my pc, it was when Mary I visited you in Elma. We were out in the yard and also in the house,,,Mary must have taken the picture video? Tel Tofflemire -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org/ Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subjectunsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSVITAMIN D DEFFICIENCY and the Great State of Maine
WHAT THE??? What the hell is all that about...??? Care to decode that doc? My life will end when I reach my expiry date and not before, after that I won't give a toss cos I'll be worm fodder - end of story! g N. From: dr...@earthlink.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSVITAMIN D DEFFICIENCY and the Great State of Maine Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2012 20:02:55 -0800 Take it that you have died today, and your life's story is ended; and henceforward regard what further time may be given you as an uncovenanted surplus, and live it out in harmony with nature. -Meditations, Marcus Aurelius
RE: CSHow to use Silver and DMSO
The bottle will cavitate, dry out, and crack open. -Original Message- From: slickpic...@cox.net [mailto:slickpic...@cox.net] Sent: Friday, December 07, 2012 5:17 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Cc: Sandy Subject: RE: CSHow to use Silver and DMSO The DMSO I buy comes in a plastic bottle...? Sandy hollis302...@yahoo.com wrote: = 1. Not only does DMSO cause some plastics to become brittle but it will literally dissolve some plastics, rubber and latex which will cause it to be drawn into the body. Extreme care should always be taken when not using glass to mix or use DMSO. 2. Some people use aloe vera gel or emu oil to help with the itching after the DMSO has absorbed into the skin. DMSO causes the histamine to release which causes the itching but after using it in the same area for a while the histamine will deplete and no longer itch or as badly anyway. This is from Garnet the person who owns [I'm not sure if she still does] the DMSO yahoo group... The itching that is immediate after DMSO application is due to the release of histamine from mast cells in the skin. Once this depot of histamine has been depleted with further use of DMSO on the same area in the following hours or days the itching upon application will subside. Itching can be from drying of the skin. I use Emu Oil because it is such a wonderful moisturizer and not at all greasy, soaks right in. It is also an anti-inflammatory and a carrier that approaches DMSO as far as subderm delivery goes. Aloe Vera gel is also a good one and either can be used before the DMSO to prevent drying..Garnet Sandy --- On Fri, 12/7/12, Dr. James McCourt dr...@earthlink.net wrote: Agreed on glass being better. DMSO always brittles and cracks plastic around here. How do you keep DMSO from itching for days after use? -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=subscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
CSVitamin D
We are not suppose to be taking calcium supplements due to arterial plaques. Do all vitamin D supplement contain calcium? We take the Carlson Vit D, does anyone know if it has calcium? Thanks. Melly
RE: CSHow to use Silver and DMSO
When? It's been in my cabinet for 3 years and it looks the same as the day I bought it. Dr. James McCourt dr...@earthlink.net wrote: = The bottle will cavitate, dry out, and crack open. -Original Message- From: slickpic...@cox.net [mailto:slickpic...@cox.net] Sent: Friday, December 07, 2012 5:17 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Cc: Sandy Subject: RE: CSHow to use Silver and DMSO The DMSO I buy comes in a plastic bottle...? Sandy hollis302...@yahoo.com wrote: = 1. Not only does DMSO cause some plastics to become brittle but it will literally dissolve some plastics, rubber and latex which will cause it to be drawn into the body. Extreme care should always be taken when not using glass to mix or use DMSO. 2. Some people use aloe vera gel or emu oil to help with the itching after the DMSO has absorbed into the skin. DMSO causes the histamine to release which causes the itching but after using it in the same area for a while the histamine will deplete and no longer itch or as badly anyway. This is from Garnet the person who owns [I'm not sure if she still does] the DMSO yahoo group... The itching that is immediate after DMSO application is due to the release of histamine from mast cells in the skin. Once this depot of histamine has been depleted with further use of DMSO on the same area in the following hours or days the itching upon application will subside. Itching can be from drying of the skin. I use Emu Oil because it is such a wonderful moisturizer and not at all greasy, soaks right in. It is also an anti-inflammatory and a carrier that approaches DMSO as far as subderm delivery goes. Aloe Vera gel is also a good one and either can be used before the DMSO to prevent drying..Garnet Sandy --- On Fri, 12/7/12, Dr. James McCourt dr...@earthlink.net wrote: Agreed on glass being better. DMSO always brittles and cracks plastic around here. How do you keep DMSO from itching for days after use? -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=subscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSGluthathione for Dad/need advice/Parkinsons disease
Elbert Vaughn wrote: . I have done research, and found that a product call immunocal, and lifewave patches can cause the body to produce more of it on natural glutathione, and according to the internet(I am speaking more about the lifewave patches) can simulate what I saw on youtube with the intravenous glutathione(again prices very high for immunocal, and the lifewafe patches). Their was a person with parkinsons disease that put on the lifewave patches on youtube, and basically had the same results as a person taking intravenous glutathione would have. The results were immediate(even though I am skeptical about lifewave patchs(my mothers friend had some aliment that the lifewave patches were suppose to allieviate, but got no results). So basically what I am trying to do is to find something that we as a family can afford that can give the same or similar results that a parkinsons patient recieves when taking intravenous glutathione, that is, if I cannot find affordable liquid glutathione from off the internet (injectable glutathione) , because if I am not able to find affordable liquid glutathione we as a family wlll not be able to treat my father with intravenous glutathione. God knows I will be forever grateful if anyone has any suggestions to help me achieve this goal. Elbert, The Lifewave patches--at least in my own experience and based on my discussions with some colleagues--give excellent results. The only thing is, you have to experiment to find the optimal areas on the body to place them. I put my glutathione patches about inch below the navel. I always feel better when I have them on. Besides the great advice others gave to prepare liposomal glutathione (which substantially reduces the expense), an excellent nutrient to get the body to produce its own glutathione is whey. Try to get the complete whey and not the isolate. Best, Nenah Nenah Sylver, PhD author, the NEW Rife Handbook (2011) Holistic Handbook of Sauna Therapy (2004) VoiceBio and Biomodulator certification http://www.nenahsylver.com www.nenahsylver.com; http://www.rifehandbook.com www.rifehandbook.com
Re: CSGluthathione for Dad/need advice/Parkinsons disease
On Sat, Dec 8, 2012 at 12:32 AM, Nenah Sylver nenahsyl...@cox.net wrote: ** ** Besides the great advice others gave to prepare liposomal glutathione (which substantially reduces the expense), an excellent nutrient to get the body to produce its own glutathione is whey. Try to get the complete whey and not the isolate. Do you have any information on the effectiveness between Lifewave and whey? Olushola
Re: CSHow to use Silver and DMSO
Some sorts of plastic obviously are not dissolved by DMSO, and some are. A pdf http://www.arkema-inc.com/literature/pdf/361.pdf from Atpfina called Dimethylsulfoxide: material compatibility says: A few polymers can be recommended for prolonged contact with DMSO polyethylene, polypropylene, pentafluoroethylene (PTFE), Kalrez. For other polymers it is advisable to undertake compatibility tests. Dan On Fri, Dec 7, 2012 at 10:45 PM, slickpic...@cox.net wrote: When? It's been in my cabinet for 3 years and it looks the same as the day I bought it. Dr. James McCourt dr...@earthlink.net wrote: = The bottle will cavitate, dry out, and crack open. -Original Message- From: slickpic...@cox.net [mailto:slickpic...@cox.net] Sent: Friday, December 07, 2012 5:17 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Cc: Sandy Subject: RE: CSHow to use Silver and DMSO The DMSO I buy comes in a plastic bottle...? Sandy hollis302...@yahoo.com wrote: = 1. Not only does DMSO cause some plastics to become brittle but it will literally dissolve some plastics, rubber and latex which will cause it to be drawn into the body. Extreme care should always be taken when not using glass to mix or use DMSO. 2. Some people use aloe vera gel or emu oil to help with the itching after the DMSO has absorbed into the skin. DMSO causes the histamine to release which causes the itching but after using it in the same area for a while the histamine will deplete and no longer itch or as badly anyway. This is from Garnet the person who owns [I'm not sure if she still does] the DMSO yahoo group... The itching that is immediate after DMSO application is due to the release of histamine from mast cells in the skin. Once this depot of histamine has been depleted with further use of DMSO on the same area in the following hours or days the itching upon application will subside. Itching can be from drying of the skin. I use Emu Oil because it is such a wonderful moisturizer and not at all greasy, soaks right in. It is also an anti-inflammatory and a carrier that approaches DMSO as far as subderm delivery goes. Aloe Vera gel is also a good one and either can be used before the DMSO to prevent drying..Garnet Sandy --- On Fri, 12/7/12, Dr. James McCourt dr...@earthlink.net wrote: Agreed on glass being better. DMSO always brittles and cracks plastic around here. How do you keep DMSO from itching for days after use? -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=subscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSHow to use Silver and DMSO
Tel, Why do you keep sending your personal and business emails through this list? Dan On Fri, Dec 7, 2012 at 10:11 PM, Tel Tofflemire telt...@yahoo.com wrote: Brent, I found an old video on my pc, it was when Mary I visited you in Elma. We were out in the yard and also in the house,,,Mary must have taken the picture video? Tel Tofflemire -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org/ Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subjectunsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSGluthathione for Dad/need advice/Parkinsons disease
Olushola wrote: Do you have any information on the effectiveness between Lifewave and whey? Google lifewave glutathione patches vs whey and you should pull up some data. Nenah Sylver, PhD author, the NEW Rife Handbook (2011) Holistic Handbook of Sauna Therapy (2004) VoiceBio and Biomodulator certification http://www.nenahsylver.com www.nenahsylver.com; http://www.rifehandbook.com www.rifehandbook.com
