Re: CS>Re: silver-digest Digest V2014 #96

[123 456]

Hi Colin...after my husband passed a few years ago  (lung  cancer)  i
now have what could well be a  thouroughly  comprehensive  list  of
all possible treatment.
What we have discovered is  that it boils down to some very basis principles.
Keep your system well hydrated  with  distilled water.
Stay in  a  PH range of7.5
(ietary changes will be needed.
Become vegan  or vegetarian..lots of coriander and beets for  detox.
Google Robert VonSarbacker and  ask  him  for  help with this one...hes  good.
Start eating  seaweeds  from  the  cleanest waters you  can  find.
Look into the  B/G algae from  New Earth  ans  a basic food  source too.
Be  prepared if you can for the toxic  dieoff reaction that will
happen to  some degree.
Sign up to theCrock_Lachovsky yahoogroup.
All  the  people over  there  have so much experience  with assisting
with these sort of issues.
Look  into Denis in Northern Territorys  (I think) or  Queensland. He
makes  one of the  best  ormus products on the  planet.
 do  a search on  ormus and BarryCarter subtleenergies.com
Keep in touch with  your online group friends.
We are here to help and share our  knowledge.
Look into Dr Simoncini and  watch his videos  and  you  will
understand why its so  critical to keep your body  alkalized.
Be well
Tara

On 5/26/14, Colin Smith  wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I have been quietly receiving the Silver Digest for several years now
> but have never posted.. I did try a couple of times but somehow didn't
> manage to place the post... hope this will be more successful.
>
> I am an 65 old Male (well will be in a couple of weeks). 4 years ago I
> was treated for Rectal Cancer with Radiation  and an operation... all
> seemed to be very successful but a recent MRI and PET scan showed a
> re-occurrence, with a small tumour on the outside of my lower bowel.
> They are talking about more radiation, a major operation etc. which is
> the last thing I want to have done.
>
> I found my CS generator a few weeks ago, after it had been "Lost" in a
> packing box after a house move and have started taking a small glass
> morning and night. It has helped my general well-being and stopped me
> feeling tired, which was about the only symptom I noticed with my
> re-occurrence.
>
> I am investigating all possible treatment regimes, would any one care to
> comment? I understand there is no magic cure and no guarantee of success
> but your input would be most welcome.
> If talking about such things is problematic for the list, could someone
> contact me directly to have a more private discussion.
>
> With thanks,
>
> Colin (Australia)
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Re: CS>Re: silver-digest Digest V2014 #96

[123 456]

Look into  www.candidacleanseer.com
It is becoming generally recognized that abnormal tumour growth is
caused by either parasites and  /or fungus  in the body.

Also try  adding  some  eclipta  alba (bringa raj)  into you  diet.
Use  the  powdered  leaf form in  capsules..produces  a  general  and
gentle body  detox and  cleanse.  Haven't been this  healthy  in
decades..been  eating it for 14 months now and body is  still
transforming  into  a younger  person.
T

On 5/26/14, 123 456  wrote:
> Hi Colin...after my husband passed a few years ago  (lung  cancer)  i
> now have what could well be a  thouroughly  comprehensive  list  of
> all possible treatment.
> What we have discovered is  that it boils down to some very basis
> principles.
> Keep your system well hydrated  with  distilled water.
> Stay in  a  PH range of7.5
> (ietary changes will be needed.
> Become vegan  or vegetarian..lots of coriander and beets for  detox.
> Google Robert VonSarbacker and  ask  him  for  help with this one...hes
> good.
> Start eating  seaweeds  from  the  cleanest waters you  can  find.
> Look into the  B/G algae from  New Earth  ans  a basic food  source too.
> Be  prepared if you can for the toxic  dieoff reaction that will
> happen to  some degree.
> Sign up to theCrock_Lachovsky yahoogroup.
> All  the  people over  there  have so much experience  with assisting
> with these sort of issues.
> Look  into Denis in Northern Territorys  (I think) or  Queensland. He
> makes  one of the  best  ormus products on the  planet.
>  do  a search on  ormus and BarryCarter subtleenergies.com
> Keep in touch with  your online group friends.
> We are here to help and share our  knowledge.
> Look into Dr Simoncini and  watch his videos  and  you  will
> understand why its so  critical to keep your body  alkalized.
> Be well
> Tara
>
> On 5/26/14, Colin Smith  wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I have been quietly receiving the Silver Digest for several years now
>> but have never posted.. I did try a couple of times but somehow didn't
>> manage to place the post... hope this will be more successful.
>>
>> I am an 65 old Male (well will be in a couple of weeks). 4 years ago I
>> was treated for Rectal Cancer with Radiation  and an operation... all
>> seemed to be very successful but a recent MRI and PET scan showed a
>> re-occurrence, with a small tumour on the outside of my lower bowel.
>> They are talking about more radiation, a major operation etc. which is
>> the last thing I want to have done.
>>
>> I found my CS generator a few weeks ago, after it had been "Lost" in a
>> packing box after a house move and have started taking a small glass
>> morning and night. It has helped my general well-being and stopped me
>> feeling tired, which was about the only symptom I noticed with my
>> re-occurrence.
>>
>> I am investigating all possible treatment regimes, would any one care to
>> comment? I understand there is no magic cure and no guarantee of success
>> but your input would be most welcome.
>> If talking about such things is problematic for the list, could someone
>> contact me directly to have a more private discussion.
>>
>> With thanks,
>>
>> Colin (Australia)
>>
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Re: CS>RE: Bladder infections.

[Ron]

Mahvalus Malcolm,
I didn't really expect to hear from anybody that knew about it first hand.
Well I won't try it unless my temperature goes up which tells me the 
infection is serious and that the bacteria (which will always be 
present) have reached 'critical mass'. Gotta get away from antibiotics 
somehow.
My urologist? I asked him by leaving the question with his office. He 
did not even return my call.

In the meantime I'll try steam distilled water.

Ron

On 5/25/2014 3:50 PM, Malcolm wrote:

Hey Ron,
I've had a neurogenic bladder for 49 years, spinal cord injury.  I tried
CS into the bladder through my cath - Not a good idea, stung like crazy
and did no good for the infection.  I later discussed this with my
urologist who told me flat out, don't do it, it doesn't work.
Word to the wise.  I know, YMMV, but I doubt it.
Consider also that most of the antibiotics reach the bladder through the
bloodstream, i.e. from the outside, and one of the most effective
irrigations is plain PURE STERILE water which gets the bugs through
osmotic pressure - blows them up.
Take care, Malcolm

On Sun, 2014-05-25 at 12:31 -0800, Ron wrote:

Trying again.
I just sent this but it did not seem to go anywhere except to my sent mail.

No exotic bugs :-)
I should have said that although the usual reason for men to catheterize
is enlarged prostate (BPH) but in my case it is a stretched and large
dysfunctional bladder that makes it difficult for meds coming in from
the kidneys to actually touch all of the surfaces of the bladder which I
guess might explain the seemingly high residual bacteria count and is
the reason I wanted to go the opposite route.
Now, from all these great replies here, I will think about what to pre
flush the bladder with before doing the CS.
Really great!

Ron

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Re: CS>Re: silver-digest Digest V2014 #96

[Ode Coyote]

  Godzilla zapper, a bit of salty water and a conductive  anal probe.
...look into "electrosex" toys [all there in one package?

http://silverpuppy.com/article/zappers

Ode




t 12:19 PM 5/26/2014 +0800, you wrote:

Hi,

I have been quietly receiving the Silver Digest for several years now but 
have never posted.. I did try a couple of times but somehow didn't manage 
to place the post... hope this will be more successful.


I am an 65 old Male (well will be in a couple of weeks). 4 years ago I was 
treated for Rectal Cancer with Radiation  and an operation... all seemed 
to be very successful but a recent MRI and PET scan showed a 
re-occurrence, with a small tumour on the outside of my lower bowel. They 
are talking about more radiation, a major operation etc. which is the last 
thing I want to have done.


I found my CS generator a few weeks ago, after it had been "Lost" in a 
packing box after a house move and have started taking a small glass 
morning and night. It has helped my general well-being and stopped me 
feeling tired, which was about the only symptom I noticed with my 
re-occurrence.


I am investigating all possible treatment regimes, would any one care to 
comment? I understand there is no magic cure and no guarantee of success 
but your input would be most welcome.
If talking about such things is problematic for the list, could someone 
contact me directly to have a more private discussion.


With thanks,

Colin (Australia)

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Re: CS>Bladder infections.

[moxaman]

I should have stated that the cranberry juice should be unsweetened and 
without added water and yes capsules or tablets can be substituted. 
Cranberry is not a GMO product however some sugars can be if it is from 
beets.


-Original Message- 
From: Jane MacRoss

Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2014 4:23 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>Bladder infections.

Cranberry juice is possibly GMO - contains too much sugar and is too weak to
do much good - the capsules & tablets are better,  but apart from the
excellent D Mannose, homeopathic Cantharis 200c is brilliant and should
settle things forever

Jane


D Mannose works great for bladder infections.   Better than most 
antibiotics without any side effects.  You can add cranberry juice to that 
if you want to.The juice of a whole lemon once a day helps as well.


Bob



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Re: CS>CS in hummingbird nectar?

[moxaman]

What is killing bees are the neonicotinoids, a type of pesticide patented by 
Bayer.   
From: Jane MacRoss 
Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2014 4:21 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Subject: Re: CS>CS in hummingbird nectar?

I never feed wild birds, I observe them at the flowers - still out here in late 
May, hovering under them for nectar - and others darting along the verandah 
removing the insects & spiders, and then some help themselves to dog food left 
in the bowl on the verandah overnight - I hear the 'ping' on the bowl of their 
beaks  the parrots take the fruit and the kookaburras ... make enough noise 
but I don't know what they find here  I would have thought humming birds 
would not have needed man manufactured sugar - isn't that what's killing the 
bees?

Jane
  Subject: Re: CS>CS in hummingbird nectar?

  Their water containers in the wild are flowers, and pooled dew drops and 
other fresh bits of moisture that evaporate, rather than culture mold from 
sugar water going 'off'. L

  On May 25, 2014, at 2:55 PM, Alan Faulkner wrote:

Re: CS>CS in hummingbird nectar?

[Marshall]

When the sugar water ferments it produces either alcohol, and/or acetic 
acid.  So we are wanting to avoid acetic acid formation, therefore I 
don't see adding it directly as a solution.


Marshall

On 5/25/2014 8:01 AM, Cyndi wrote:

Better yet use apple cider vinegar.

Cyndi

On 5/25/2014 6:38 AM, 123 456 wrote:

CS is okay for chickenss with  sniffles. I  didnt use it on an
extended  basis tho'
Why not use a drop of Hydrogen peroxide instead if you want to be 
cautious?

Tara

On 5/25/14, Alan Faulkner  wrote:
I know of someone who fed it to bees and it killed them. The theory 
is that

it killed the bacteria in them that aid in digestion so they starved to
death.

But I know someone who puts a bit of H2O2 in his racing pigeons water.

Alan


On 2014-05-24, at 21:40 PM, Walter Anderson wrote:

A quick Google didn’t turn anything up so I thought I’d ask the list:
Do you have any experience or other knowledge to indicate whether CS 
would
be helpful/harmful/neutral do hummingbirds? The reason I ask is 
mould can be
a problem in hummingbird feeders and I was thinking CS might help 
stop that
(not sure on this either, just thought it might inhibit mould 
too—please
correct me if I’ve missed the boat). I’m not sure what kind of 
digestive
system hummingbirds have (their diet is nectar and insects) and 
whether CS
would be compatible with their needs or not. All feedback/ideas are 
welcome.

- Walter





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Re: CS>Bladder infections.

[Marshall]

On 5/25/2014 2:19 PM, Ron wrote:
Hi, I'm brand new to the list. Not totally ignorant on CS but lots to 
learn.
85 yo male in good health but since I must self catheterize I am 
plagued by bladder infections (lab test confirmed).
When my temp. gets to 101 or so and I feel lousy I have resorted to 
antibiotics.
Obviously one day they will not be effective not to mention the harm 
they do elsewhere.


I have started drinking 8 oz of CS (made with a SilverGen) _during the 
night_ and even administered rectally every other day for the  past 5 
days.
It has kept my temp. down but the cloudy urine says that the infection 
is still there. Of course 5 days is a short time and maybe 8 oz is not 
enough??


Question:
Would anyone have knowledge or opinion about actually injecting a pint 
or so of CS directly into the bladder?


Yes, that can be done.  Also consider taking CS along with cranberry 
juice, or cranberry extract.  The combination can work wonders for 
urinary tract and bladder infections.  Make sure it is not cranberry 
cocktail, there should not be any sugar added.


Marshall


Now that I write it it seems like - yes it is a no brain-er 
but..


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Re: CS>RE: Bladder infections.

[sol]

Ron wrote:

Mahvalus Malcolm,
I didn't really expect to hear from anybody that knew about it first 
hand.
Well I won't try it unless my temperature goes up which tells me the 
infection is serious and that the bacteria (which will always be 
present) have reached 'critical mass'. Gotta get away from antibiotics 
somehow.
My urologist? I asked him by leaving the question with his office. He 
did not even return my call.

In the meantime I'll try steam distilled water.

DMSO infusions have been used medically for interstitial cystitis. 
Can't remember details, but you might want to research it. I myself 
would not hesitate to use a mix of CS and DMSO put directly into my 
bladder.  According to Dr. Stanley Jacobs (its "discoverer") DMSO cannot 
take bacteria into body tissues. They are too large to be transported by 
DMSO.


More info at http://www.dmso.org/   and   http://www.jacoblab.com/

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CS> RE: Bicarbonate of Soda & pH Testing

[Phil Morrison]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ORa0OybvK90

Re: CS>RE: Bladder infections.

[Malcolm]

Ron,
Another bit of info from my urologist, - and I have great faith in him
as he is considered by everyone I've talked to to be one of the top 50
in the entire U.S - - - 

The idea is to establish a balanced flora of bacteria in the bladder
that maintain a more beneficial environment, and limit not only their
own tendencies toward overgrowth but also resist the intrusion of other
bugs which could be much more harmful.  This also tends to eliminate the
seesaw effect of killing off the bacteria and "inviting in" the yeasts
who are more than willing to move in in strength.  Getting rid of yeasts
and fungi can be a real nightmare, involving some pretty toxic
substances.

It seems you already have the correct idea on this, don't medicate just
on the basis of cloudy urine unless it gets bad, and/or other clues let
you know this is a bad one; I rely on the urine's odor and my overall
feeling of sickness and aggravation as well as the amount and location
of the cloudiness.  By that I mean that there is a tendency for sediment
(usually pretty harmless stuff) to settle toward the bottom of the
bladder, and a concentration at the end of the stream is not so big a
concern to me as consistent murky presence throughout.  I keep a clean
shot-glass next to the toilet to catch a sample whenever I need to check
it out.

HTH, Malcolm

On Mon, 2014-05-26 at 05:33 -0800, Ron wrote:
> Mahvalus Malcolm,
> I didn't really expect to hear from anybody that knew about it first hand.
> Well I won't try it unless my temperature goes up which tells me the 
> infection is serious and that the bacteria (which will always be 
> present) have reached 'critical mass'. Gotta get away from antibiotics 
> somehow.
> My urologist? I asked him by leaving the question with his office. He 
> did not even return my call.
> In the meantime I'll try steam distilled water.
> 
> Ron
> 
> On 5/25/2014 3:50 PM, Malcolm wrote:
> > Hey Ron,
> > I've had a neurogenic bladder for 49 years, spinal cord injury.  I tried
> > CS into the bladder through my cath - Not a good idea, stung like crazy
> > and did no good for the infection.  I later discussed this with my
> > urologist who told me flat out, don't do it, it doesn't work.
> > Word to the wise.  I know, YMMV, but I doubt it.
> > Consider also that most of the antibiotics reach the bladder through the
> > bloodstream, i.e. from the outside, and one of the most effective
> > irrigations is plain PURE STERILE water which gets the bugs through
> > osmotic pressure - blows them up.
> > Take care, Malcolm
> >
> > On Sun, 2014-05-25 at 12:31 -0800, Ron wrote:
> >> Trying again.
> >> I just sent this but it did not seem to go anywhere except to my sent mail.
> >>
> >> No exotic bugs :-)
> >> I should have said that although the usual reason for men to catheterize
> >> is enlarged prostate (BPH) but in my case it is a stretched and large
> >> dysfunctional bladder that makes it difficult for meds coming in from
> >> the kidneys to actually touch all of the surfaces of the bladder which I
> >> guess might explain the seemingly high residual bacteria count and is
> >> the reason I wanted to go the opposite route.
> >> Now, from all these great replies here, I will think about what to pre
> >> flush the bladder with before doing the CS.
> >> Really great!
> >>
> >> Ron
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Re: CS>RE: Bladder infections.

[Malcolm]

Yes, the interstitial cystitis responds to DMSO, do be sure to dilute it
per an experienced healthcare pro who knows their business.  Consider
also that although the bugs themselves may be of a molecular weight that
DMSO will not be able to transport, the toxins they generate may be of a
size that can be.

The suggestion for D-Mannose is a good one too.  One also can get whole
cranberries at some seasons, frozen ones most of the time, and cook them
up - remarkably easy, and throw in a few good orange peels with them
sliced thin.  Yum!
Malcolm

On Mon, 2014-05-26 at 09:24 -0600, sol wrote:
> Ron wrote:
> > Mahvalus Malcolm,
> > I didn't really expect to hear from anybody that knew about it first 
> > hand.
> > Well I won't try it unless my temperature goes up which tells me the 
> > infection is serious and that the bacteria (which will always be 
> > present) have reached 'critical mass'. Gotta get away from antibiotics 
> > somehow.
> > My urologist? I asked him by leaving the question with his office. He 
> > did not even return my call.
> > In the meantime I'll try steam distilled water.
> >
>  DMSO infusions have been used medically for interstitial cystitis. 
> Can't remember details, but you might want to research it. I myself 
> would not hesitate to use a mix of CS and DMSO put directly into my 
> bladder.  According to Dr. Stanley Jacobs (its "discoverer") DMSO cannot 
> take bacteria into body tissues. They are too large to be transported by 
> DMSO.
> 
> More info at http://www.dmso.org/   and   http://www.jacoblab.com/
> 
> sol
> 
> 
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Re: CS>CS in hummingbird nectar?

[Marshall]

There are a lot of things contributing to the problems with bees.  A 
mite named varroa was introduced a couple of decades ago, and decimated 
the bee populations until the feral and untreated colonies learned to 
deal with them.  In the mean time commercial beekeepers used miticides 
to control them, the consequences of using an insecticide inside a 
beehive are not too difficult to contemplate.  In addition antibiotics 
are often feed as well.  Then you have the fungicides being applied to 
crops, and the pesticides, which include the neonicatoids.  Although 
each alone can cause problems, a mixture of 2 or more of them is much 
worse than any one alone.  Then on top of that it has been found that 
natural substances in nectar help the bees immune system so not only are 
antibiotics not needed when they are eating honey, but the bee can 
handle higher concentrations of the other poisons as they detoxify.  So 
on top of all this you have beekeepers which are feeding their bees 
sugar syrup, with none of these substances in them, which makes them 
even sicker and unable to detox.  The the really big commercial guys are 
using HF corn syrup to feed, and that over time, especially at elevated 
temperatures forms hydroxymethylfurfural a deadly toxin for bees.


On the other hand you have the natural beekeepers.   The do not treat, 
and never feed anything but honey if needed.  Some still experience 
losses to the pesticides if their location is near fields of crops which 
are treated, or GMO engineered to be poisonous but  other than that the 
treatment free beekeepers are seeing from 0 to maybe 10% yearly losses, 
which the commercial and those that are treating their bees and feeding 
sugar syrup are seeing from 30 to 70% losses.


I am in the treatment free group myself.

Marshall

On 5/25/2014 7:21 PM, Jane MacRoss wrote:
I never feed wild birds, I observe them at the flowers - still out 
here in lateiders, and then some help themselves to dog food left in 
the bowl on the verandah overnight - I hear the 'ping' on the bowl of 
their beaks  the parrots take the fruit and the kookaburras ... 
make enough noise but I don't know what they find here 
May, hovering under them for nectar - and others darting along the 
verandah removing the insects & sp I would have thought humming birds 
would not have needed man manufactured sugar - isn't that what's 
killing the bees?


Jane

*Subject:* Re: CS>CS in hummingbird nectar?

Their water containers in the wild are flowers, and pooled dew
drops and other fresh bits of moisture that evaporate, rather than
culture mold from sugar water going 'off'. L
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Re: CS>Bladder infections.

[Victor Cozzetto]

Lots of good advice already, but I would like to mention that simply
increasing the quantity of CS might do the trick. You can't overdose on CS,
and I have seen CS wipe out all manner of illness when enough is used. I
will drink at least four glasses a day if I feel like I may have caught a
flu or something. And I have seen UTIs irradiated with similar amounts. CS
has kept me and my family healthy for many years.

I would also recommend home made kefir, as it is great for getting the gut
and body flora healthy and balanced, which will further strengthen your
immune system.

Good luck.




On Sun, May 25, 2014 at 2:19 PM, Ron  wrote:

>  Hi, I'm brand new to the list. Not totally ignorant on CS but lots to
> learn.
> 85 yo male in good health but since I must self catheterize I am plagued
> by bladder infections (lab test confirmed).
> When my temp. gets to 101 or so and I feel lousy I have resorted to
> antibiotics.
> Obviously one day they will not be effective not to mention the harm they
> do elsewhere.
>
> I have started drinking 8 oz of CS (made with a SilverGen) *during the
> night* and even administered rectally every other day for the  past 5
> days.
> It has kept my temp. down but the cloudy urine says that the infection is
> still there. Of course 5 days is a short time and maybe 8 oz is not enough??
>
> Question:
> Would anyone have knowledge or opinion about actually injecting a pint or
> so of CS directly into the bladder?
>
> Now that I write it it seems like - yes it is a no brain-er
> but..
>
> Ron
>
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Re: CS>Bladder infections. - Victor

[Ron]

I would like to ask you if you give stomach acid any consideration when 
you drink the CS?


Ron

On 5/26/2014 11:09 AM, Victor Cozzetto wrote:
Lots of good advice already, but I would like to mention that simply 
increasing the quantity of CS might do the trick. You can't overdose 
on CS, and I have seen CS wipe out all manner of illness when enough 
is used. I will drink at least four glasses a day if I feel like I may 
have caught a flu or something. And I have seen UTIs irradiated with 
similar amounts. CS has kept me and my family healthy for many years.


I would also recommend home made kefir, as it is great for getting the 
gut and body flora healthy and balanced, which will further strengthen 
your immune system.


Good luck.




On Sun, May 25, 2014 at 2:19 PM, Ron > wrote:


Hi, I'm brand new to the list. Not totally ignorant on CS but lots
to learn.
85 yo male in good health but since I must self catheterize I am
plagued by bladder infections (lab test confirmed).
When my temp. gets to 101 or so and I feel lousy I have resorted
to antibiotics.
Obviously one day they will not be effective not to mention the
harm they do elsewhere.

I have started drinking 8 oz of CS (made with a SilverGen) _during
the night_ and even administered rectally every other day for the 
past 5 days.

It has kept my temp. down but the cloudy urine says that the
infection is still there. Of course 5 days is a short time and
maybe 8 oz is not enough??

Question:
Would anyone have knowledge or opinion about actually injecting a
pint or so of CS directly into the bladder?

Now that I write it it seems like - yes it is a no brain-er
but..

Ron



   

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[Ron]

I would like to ask you if you give stomach acid any consideration when 
you drink the CS?


Ron

On 5/26/2014 11:09 AM, Victor Cozzetto wrote:
Lots of good advice already, but I would like to mention that simply 
increasing the quantity of CS might do the trick. You can't overdose on 
CS, and I have seen CS wipe out all manner of illness when enough is 
used. I will drink at least four glasses a day if I feel like I may have 
caught a flu or something. And I have seen UTIs irradiated with similar 
amounts. CS has kept me and my family healthy for many years.


I would also recommend home made kefir, as it is great for getting the 
gut and body flora healthy and balanced, which will further strengthen 
your immune system.


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Subject:Re: CS>Bladder infections. - Victor
Date:   Mon, 26 May 2014 12:27:26 -0800
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I would like to ask you if you give stomach acid any consideration when 
you drink the CS?


Ron

On 5/26/2014 11:09 AM, Victor Cozzetto wrote:
Lots of good advice already, but I would like to mention that simply 
increasing the quantity of CS might do the trick. You can't overdose 
on CS, and I have seen CS wipe out all manner of illness when enough 
is used. I will drink at least four glasses a day if I feel like I may 
have caught a flu or something. And I have seen UTIs irradiated with 
similar amounts. CS has kept me and my family healthy for many years.


I would also recommend home made kefir, as it is great for getting the 
gut and body flora healthy and balanced, which will further strengthen 
your immune system.


Good luck.




On Sun, May 25, 2014 at 2:19 PM, Ron > wrote:


Hi, I'm brand new to the list. Not totally ignorant on CS but lots
to learn.
85 yo male in good health but since I must self catheterize I am
plagued by bladder infections (lab test confirmed).
When my temp. gets to 101 or so and I feel lousy I have resorted
to antibiotics.
Obviously one day they will not be effective not to mention the
harm they do elsewhere.

I have started drinking 8 oz of CS (made with a SilverGen) _during
the night_ and even administered rectally every other day for the 
past 5 days.

It has kept my temp. down but the cloudy urine says that the
infection is still there. Of course 5 days is a short time and
maybe 8 oz is not enough??

Question:
Would anyone have knowledge or opinion about actually injecting a
pint or so of CS directly into the bladder?

Now that I write it it seems like - yes it is a no brain-er
but..

Ron



   

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For some reason I cannot send when I "Reply" so I'll try a new send.

Victor,
I would like to ask if you give stomach acid any consideration when 
drinking the CS?


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Re: CS>Bladder infections. - Victor

[Victor Cozzetto]

Hi Ron,

I do not. But I do not actually drink large quantities of CS at one time. I
keep it in 16oz PET bottles, and drink a little here and there when I am
thirsty. Maybe a half a glass at a time, but usually less. Most of my
family uses it the same way. I also keep it by my bed at night, and take a
sip and swish if I wake up thirsty.

I actually bring used PET bottles to NY from Japan, because they are more
durable, and having 120z or 160z PET bottles makes using CS so convenient.

I use a silverpuppy device, so I am not worried about keeping the CS in
amber bottles. But I used to do that years ago.

One thing I should have mentioned - I always try to swish it around my
mouth for a while. I think keeping it in your mouth is an important factor
in effectiveness (which has been explained on this site in the past).
Sometimes I swish for ten seconds, sometimes for five minutes.

I am too lazy to use CS every day of my life, so there are times when I
don't drink any for weeks. I never notice any ill effects or digestive
discomfort from CS. Nor does anyone in my family. I have a daughter in
fourth grade, and she has never missed a day of school. We all had our
share of illness before CS, but nothing since.

Of course I realize everyone is different, and I do also consider ph and
other things mentioned here.

BTW, I dip my toothbrush in CS and then in a baking soda and sea salt mix,
which become pasty on my toothbrush. I imagine that this may also
contribute to my overall health.

Victor


On Mon, May 26, 2014 at 4:27 PM, Ron  wrote:

>  I would like to ask you if you give stomach acid any consideration when
> you drink the CS?
>
> Ron
>
> On 5/26/2014 11:09 AM, Victor Cozzetto wrote:
>
>  Lots of good advice already, but I would like to mention that simply
> increasing the quantity of CS might do the trick. You can't overdose on CS,
> and I have seen CS wipe out all manner of illness when enough is used. I
> will drink at least four glasses a day if I feel like I may have caught a
> flu or something. And I have seen UTIs irradiated with similar amounts. CS
> has kept me and my family healthy for many years.
>
>  I would also recommend home made kefir, as it is great for getting the
> gut and body flora healthy and balanced, which will further strengthen your
> immune system.
>
>  Good luck.
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, May 25, 2014 at 2:19 PM, Ron  wrote:
>
>>  Hi, I'm brand new to the list. Not totally ignorant on CS but lots to
>> learn.
>> 85 yo male in good health but since I must self catheterize I am plagued
>> by bladder infections (lab test confirmed).
>> When my temp. gets to 101 or so and I feel lousy I have resorted to
>> antibiotics.
>> Obviously one day they will not be effective not to mention the harm they
>> do elsewhere.
>>
>> I have started drinking 8 oz of CS (made with a SilverGen) *during the
>> night* and even administered rectally every other day for the  past 5
>> days.
>> It has kept my temp. down but the cloudy urine says that the infection is
>> still there. Of course 5 days is a short time and maybe 8 oz is not enough??
>>
>> Question:
>> Would anyone have knowledge or opinion about actually injecting a pint or
>> so of CS directly into the bladder?
>>
>> Now that I write it it seems like - yes it is a no brain-er
>> but..
>>
>> Ron
>>
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Re: CS>Re: silver-digest Digest V2014 #96

[Sandra George]

After all these years Hulda Clark is being proved yet again in her research - 
try her zapper + her worm protocol
Both work - thanks for broaching this subject 123 456
Sandee🐬
Attitude is everything !!!
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On 26 May 2014, at 07:10, 123 456  wrote:

Look into  www.candidacleanseer.com
It is becoming generally recognized that abnormal tumour growth is
caused by either parasites and  /or fungus  in the body.

Also try  adding  some  eclipta  alba (bringa raj)  into you  diet.
Use  the  powdered  leaf form in  capsules..produces  a  general  and
gentle body  detox and  cleanse.  Haven't been this  healthy  in
decades..been  eating it for 14 months now and body is  still
transforming  into  a younger  person.
T

On 5/26/14, 123 456  wrote:
> Hi Colin...after my husband passed a few years ago  (lung  cancer)  i
> now have what could well be a  thouroughly  comprehensive  list  of
> all possible treatment.
> What we have discovered is  that it boils down to some very basis
> principles.
> Keep your system well hydrated  with  distilled water.
> Stay in  a  PH range of7.5
> (ietary changes will be needed.
> Become vegan  or vegetarian..lots of coriander and beets for  detox.
> Google Robert VonSarbacker and  ask  him  for  help with this one...hes
> good.
> Start eating  seaweeds  from  the  cleanest waters you  can  find.
> Look into the  B/G algae from  New Earth  ans  a basic food  source too.
> Be  prepared if you can for the toxic  dieoff reaction that will
> happen to  some degree.
> Sign up to theCrock_Lachovsky yahoogroup.
> All  the  people over  there  have so much experience  with assisting
> with these sort of issues.
> Look  into Denis in Northern Territorys  (I think) or  Queensland. He
> makes  one of the  best  ormus products on the  planet.
> do  a search on  ormus and BarryCarter subtleenergies.com
> Keep in touch with  your online group friends.
> We are here to help and share our  knowledge.
> Look into Dr Simoncini and  watch his videos  and  you  will
> understand why its so  critical to keep your body  alkalized.
> Be well
> Tara
> 
> On 5/26/14, Colin Smith  wrote:
>> Hi,
>> 
>> I have been quietly receiving the Silver Digest for several years now
>> but have never posted.. I did try a couple of times but somehow didn't
>> manage to place the post... hope this will be more successful.
>> 
>> I am an 65 old Male (well will be in a couple of weeks). 4 years ago I
>> was treated for Rectal Cancer with Radiation  and an operation... all
>> seemed to be very successful but a recent MRI and PET scan showed a
>> re-occurrence, with a small tumour on the outside of my lower bowel.
>> They are talking about more radiation, a major operation etc. which is
>> the last thing I want to have done.
>> 
>> I found my CS generator a few weeks ago, after it had been "Lost" in a
>> packing box after a house move and have started taking a small glass
>> morning and night. It has helped my general well-being and stopped me
>> feeling tired, which was about the only symptom I noticed with my
>> re-occurrence.
>> 
>> I am investigating all possible treatment regimes, would any one care to
>> comment? I understand there is no magic cure and no guarantee of success
>> but your input would be most welcome.
>> If talking about such things is problematic for the list, could someone
>> contact me directly to have a more private discussion.
>> 
>> With thanks,
>> 
>> Colin (Australia)
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Apologies for the duplications.
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CS>Bladder Infection

[Del]

Here are two articles about urinary tract infections you should read very 
carefully:
http://viewer.zmags.com/publication/24975063#/24975063/86
http://www.tahomaclinicblog.com/d-mannose-for-bladder-and-kidney-infections/

The first article gives a good over all description of the problem and the 
solution, but strangely does not mention D-Mannose, which is already available 
in most health food and vitamin shops.  D-Mannose is known to do exactly what 
the article describes as the best way to combat the problem.  Cranberry is good 
too, but, if I were you, I would start supplementing with D-Mannose immediately 
as per Dr. Jonathan Wright’s article above.  It can’t hurt anything and might 
very well work for you.  A good cranberry supplement too.  If these don’t help, 
then you can consider other, more difficult and dangerous options I would try 
these first.  

Del  

RE: CS>CS in hummingbird nectar?

[Walter Anderson]

Thanks Marshall. That was what I was concerned about, and knowing now how it
affects bees I'll stick with cleaning and changing fluid often until if/when
there is evidence the hummers are fine with CS. - Walter

 

From: Marshall [mailto:mdud...@king-cart.com] 
Sent: Sun, May. 25, 2014 08:35
To: silver-list@eskimo.com; silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>CS in hummingbird nectar?

 

We have the same issue, and I was considering it a couple of weeks ago.
However tests with bees, which also drink nectar found that they starved
when fed sugar water with CS in it due to it killing their flora which are
necessary for digestion.  Without evidence to the contrary, I would not
recommend doing it.

Marshall

On 5/25/2014 12:40 AM, Walter Anderson wrote: 

A quick Google didn't turn anything up so I thought I'd ask the list:

Do you have any experience or other knowledge to indicate whether CS would
be helpful/harmful/neutral do hummingbirds? The reason I ask is mould can be
a problem in hummingbird feeders and I was thinking CS might help stop that
(not sure on this either, just thought it might inhibit mould too-please
correct me if I've missed the boat). I'm not sure what kind of digestive
system hummingbirds have (their diet is nectar and insects) and whether CS
would be compatible with their needs or not. All feedback/ideas are welcome.
- Walter


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RE: CS>CS in hummingbird nectar?

[Walter Anderson]

Yes, pesticides and a particular mite appear to be the main culprit for
bees, although there are other factors as well. Bees do best fed honey, but
have also done well for generations with some sugar water supplementation
when flowers were scarce. With all the other issues making life difficult
for them, it makes sense that honey vs. sugar water could make a significant
difference for them.

 

As for hummers, they certainly survive without being fed, but it does
seem-at least in areas of the world where flowers with significant nectar
are somewhat scarce-that you end up with a larger population if you make
feed available each season. I'm not aware of any research or evidence to
indicate sugar water (sucrose) supplementation hurts them, and anecdotal
evidence seems to suggest otherwise. That said, I would expect flower nectar
is best for them. They still go to flowers for nectar when a feeder is
available (they show up at the feeder mostly in morning and evening when
less flowers are open). And they keep scooping up small insects. They're fun
to watch, and the more insect eaters around the better (no spray around
here). 

 

Last year we found we had to put the cat's food away between meals to avoid
feeding our yellow jacket wasp explosion (picture cat food dish crawling
with 10-15 yellow jackets from dawn to dusk). The dogs would grab their
hunks of fish and run, hoping to avoid the yellow jackets' company during
their meal :) When unsuccessful at that, they spent more time growling and
snapping at the yellow jackets than eating their food.

 

From: moxaman [mailto:bbane...@earthlink.net] 
Sent: Mon, May. 26, 2014 07:27
To: silver-list@eskimo.com; silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>CS in hummingbird nectar?

 

What is killing bees are the neonicotinoids, a type of pesticide patented by
Bayer.  

 

From: Jane MacRoss   

Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2014 4:21 PM

To: silver-list@eskimo.com   

Subject: Re: CS>CS in hummingbird nectar?

 

I never feed wild birds, I observe them at the flowers - still out here in
late May, hovering under them for nectar - and others darting along the
verandah removing the insects & spiders, and then some help themselves to
dog food left in the bowl on the verandah overnight - I hear the 'ping' on
the bowl of their beaks  the parrots take the fruit and the kookaburras
... make enough noise but I don't know what they find here  I would have
thought humming birds would not have needed man manufactured sugar - isn't
that what's killing the bees?

Jane

Subject: Re: CS>CS in hummingbird nectar?

 

Their water containers in the wild are flowers, and pooled dew drops and
other fresh bits of moisture that evaporate, rather than culture mold from
sugar water going 'off'. L

On May 25, 2014, at 2:55 PM, Alan Faulkner wrote:

CS>Never use honey for hummingbirds was, RE: CS in hummingbird nectar?

[sol]

I may be being overcautious, but just in case the recent morph of the 
topic into bees and honey might make someone think honey would be good 
for making hummingbird syrup:


*Why You Should NEVER Use Honey:*

A honey water solution served up in hummingbird feeders can quickly 
become /toxic and deadly./ Honey rapidly ferments and also cultures a 
deadly bacterium. Contrary to popular belief, honey is not "more 
natural" than the cane sugar that is sold as white sugar. Honey has 
been chemically altered by honey bees: it is flower nectar and 
whatever ever else the honey bee ingested, digested, and spit back out 
again. Honey is /nothing like/ the sucrose found in flower nectar and 
white sugar.


Again, plain white table sugar dissolved in water in a four-to-one 
solution (see below) is about as close to real flower nectar as you 
can get.


 



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[M.G. Devour]

Hi Ron,

Gmail seems to not deliver your own replies to messages from the list.
When you post the first message in a new thread, you get the reflection
back from the list just fine. Reply to a current thread, and they don't
seem to deliver that one back to you. It doesn't go to spam, but somehow
just gets filtered out. Dunno what the problem with them is, but it's
been like that all the time I've been using this gmail account.

Be well,

Mike D.


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Re: CS>Bladder infections.

[Grace1way]

Hi:
 
I asked Robert Rowen, newsletter writer and board certified physician in  
integrated medicine.  He said that colloidal silver would irritate the  
lining of the bladder, but he offered to teach me to inject ozonated water in  
the bladder.  There is probably still a pocket sized ozone generator sold  on 
_www.amazon.com_ (http://www.amazon.com)  which costs about $69  dollars 
that would make the ozonated water.  
 
Also, you might try D-Mannose, a sugar that kills many of the most common  
bacteria that cause UTIs.  You can buy this at the health food store, but  
it is too expensive,and, from my experience, sold in capsules with not enough 
in  one of them to do any good.  Look online for just the white powder.  I  
got mine from _www.sweetcures.com_ (http://www.sweetcures.com) , but  they 
are in England, and it takes awhile to get your supply.  I'm sure  there are 
other places online you can find where you just get the pure  powder.  The 
package says to take 1 heaping teaspoon or more of Waterfall  D-Mannose in 
water, tea, or fruit juice (not cranberry or orange) at onset of  symptoms.  
Take another an hour later.  Reduce to a level teaspoonful  every three 
hours between meals for 2 days after symptoms abate. Reduce to 3  times a day 
for the next 2-3 days.  If no relief is found within 24 hours,  consult a 
doctor.  If relief is just partial, try taking more.   Maintenance dose:  level 
teaspoon, once per day, or as required.  Take  one hour before sex, and 
immediately after.  
 
You can take this forever, and it does no harm.  The bacteria do not  
develop a resistance to it.  What I would do is take it every three hours  
around 
the clock--just set my alarm clock and have the water and D-Mannose by my  
bed.
 
Hope this helps!
 
 
In a message dated 5/25/2014 11:19:54 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,  
ron@gmail.com writes:

Hi, I'm  brand new to the list. Not totally ignorant on CS but lots to 
learn.
85 yo  male in good health but since I must self catheterize I am plagued 
by bladder  infections (lab test confirmed).
When my temp. gets to 101 or so and I feel  lousy I have resorted to 
antibiotics. 
Obviously one day they will not be  effective not to mention the harm they 
do elsewhere.

I have started  drinking 8 oz of CS (made with a SilverGen) during the 
night and even  administered rectally every other day for the  past 5 days.
It has  kept my temp. down but the cloudy urine says that the infection is 
still  there. Of course 5 days is a short time and maybe 8 oz is not  
enough??

Question:
Would anyone have knowledge or opinion  about actually injecting a pint or 
so of CS directly into the  bladder?

Now that I write it it seems like - yes it is a no brain-er  
but..

Ron


 

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Something about your email. If you use a different email to send than what the 
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Can't remember exactly. But I know you had to set up and use a different email

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> On May 26, 2014, at 6:06 PM, "M.G. Devour"  wrote:
> 
> Hi Ron,
> 
> Gmail seems to not deliver your own replies to messages from the list.
> When you post the first message in a new thread, you get the reflection
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> seem to deliver that one back to you. It doesn't go to spam, but somehow
> just gets filtered out. Dunno what the problem with them is, but it's
> been like that all the time I've been using this gmail account.
> 
> Be well,
> 
> Mike D.
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>> On Mon, 2014-05-26 at 13:03 -0800, Ron wrote:
>> Apologies for the duplications.
>> My emails to the group are not showing up in my inbox so I thought they 
>> were not going out but I see that they are all in the archives.
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Re: CS>Bladder infections - Victor

[Joe Huard]

You sent it 4 times that I received.
On 2014-05-26 4:39 PM, Ron wrote:

For some reason I cannot send when I "Reply" so I'll try a new send.

Victor,
I would like to ask if you give stomach acid any consideration when 
drinking the CS?


Ron

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RE: CS>Never use honey for hummingbirds was, RE: CS in hummingbird nectar?

[Walter Anderson]

Thanks sol! That's probably a good reminder. I had thought of using honey
years ago, but a little knowledge gained via a Google quickly squashed that
idea.

Regarding ratio, anywhere from 1:1 to 5:1 water to white sugar works well.
If you have a lot of hummers and have to refill daily or more, a sweeter
solution will reduce their feeding (as it's the sucrose that's feeding them,
not the water). I've heard, though not tested, that at 5:1 the wasps lose
interest in the feeder if you have that problem.


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CS>Re: silver-digest Digest V2014 #98

[Colin Smith]

From Colin Perth ref Cancer Treatment..

Sincere Thank you for the encouraging replies... its all a bit 
overwhelming at the moment which I guess is not surprising.


I suppose the first and fundamental question I have to answer is do I 
refuse/delay the suggested "Traditional" treatments (X-ray plus big 
"take everything out" operation) while I investigate/ try alternatives? 
Is this a responsible thing to do? I know we are all responsible for 
ourselves but it is never that simple is it? I have 2 boys aged 4 and 11 
and I really want to see grow into the wonderful young men. (Proud to 
report I got my Senior's Card Age 60, and a baby bonus for Robin in the 
same year!)


As I have no real symptoms it is hard to monitor results without MRI 
scans etc... It seems to be a slow growing thing, it is 4 years since my 
initial treatment and presumely the cancer cells were left behind there 
after my operation and so has taken quite a lot of time to reach a 
detectable size.


Does anyone have any practical advise how I should proceed from here... 
due for discussions with Doctors next week when I intend asking many 
questions.


I am seriously considering visiting Chris Teo in Penang for his advise 
and his herbal medicines, has anyone any experience of this?

http://www.cacare.com/?subscribe=success#blog_subscription-3

How can I put this, on one hand I have powerful pressure from Medical 
Doctors, family and friends to follow their methods and then I have a 
tremdous amount of information about alternative ways of treating my 
problem... it is very hard to know what course I should follow. I am 
reading everything I can about it but it does get confusing...


A thought, one important factor for people following medical advise and 
procedures, whatever their doubts and fears might be, must be that at a 
time of stress and worry it is far easier to surrender oneself to a well 
trained, capable medical system than try to find ones own way.


I probably am not putting this very well, I am not being told that I 
have no medical treatment options but I dont like what they are 
proposing one little bit. It all seems unreal anyway as I feel well not 
sick!


All comments welcome.

Finally a real silver-list question ... Is my taking C/S doing me any 
good ?"


Colin confused in Perth

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