RE: CS>Milk (and CS)
When I first started making CS I left milk out on the counter to sour and then added CS. The odor left the milk almost instantly. I did not feel a need to drink it however! ;-) I did the same thing to apple cider that was becoming vinegary, and it became sweet again. If you have any concern about the safety of the milk, it won't hurt. I wonder what the shelf life of a gallon of milk would be with a half cup of CS added... -Original Message- From: Ken & Nancy Bagwell [mailto:kenancy2...@yahoo.com] Sent: Friday, March 23, 2007 2:13 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CS>Milk (and CS) Hi Terry, Thanks for your balanced view on this. Maybe, after all these years, I should do some more research on this again. Regarding raw milk, I wouldn't mind taking it, but do you think adding a few drops of CS would reduce the possibility of harmful germs (since there's no pasteurization)? -Ken Bagwell Terry Chamberlin wrote: Ken said, > Where did you read this? I drink lots of milk and I love it. < If you research the topic of the toxicity of commercial milk, you should be prepared for what you will find. The philosophies of those who disapprove of milk will extend from those who believe humans shouldnt drink milk after infancy (and only human milk at that) to those who are only concerned with milk coming from unhealthy cows. My own children have been raised on fresh, unpasteurized milk from healthy, unmedicated goats. Yet I acknowledge the fact that humans have enjoyed and benefited from fresh cows milk for many, many centuries of human history. My alarm over milk centers on the fact that, if a cow is highly medicated, unhealthy and unhappy, its milk cannot be good. > I have never heard that the calcium is "almost impossible to digest". To the contrary, I remember reading studies in the past about calcium sources where people increased their bone density by drinking milk (but mainly it was usually focused on other things like calcium supplements or drugs) < The homogenization process alters the fabric of milk and decreases its digestibility. The compression of the milk fat into tiny globules introduces something into the body that it is unfamiliar with and not designed to metabolize. People with very good digestion will have better success with it than those who dont. Over the long haul, it will cost the body more than it will benefit it. The milk industry has many studies to support their agenda. The pharmaceutical industry does the same about their drugs. You must decide whom you will trust. For myself, I tend to assume that food and medicine was better before man improved on them, that nature offered us what we needed, that what occurs naturally and spontaneously on our planet is what our bodies need. I greatly mistrust the products that come from a laboratory or from human engineering and coercion. Terry Chamberlin __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour -- 8:00? 8:25? 8:40? Find a flick in no time with theYahoo! Search movie showtime shortcut. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.17/730 - Release Date: 3/22/2007 7:44 AM
RE: CS>oil site ........more margarine
I have said for the past 20 years that I believe hydrogenated oils are the cause of heart disease, since the sharp increase in heart disease in the united states occurs at the same time as the introduction of margarine, and hydrogenated oils into peanut butter as well as other foods. During WW2 medics found that young soldiers who were wounded in battle had severely clogged heart arteries. This was in men in their 20's! I suspect margarine and peanut butter are the cause, NOT cholesterol. I think cholesterol is the biggest lie ever forced on the American public. I'll stick with butter thank you very much! Especially after the recent discussions on this list. If cholesterol is the problem, why are there any surviving Frenchmen? Yet the French do not have near the heart disease problem that we have in the United States... despite a diet rich in cholesterol~ hmmm. I do not believe that wine consumption is the sole answer either, although it may be contributory to promoting heart health. The French do seem to shun margarine in favor of butter however. Garry -Original Message- From: Day Sutton [mailto:day.sut...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, March 19, 2007 9:34 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CS>oil site more margarine I have never seen a margarine that does not contain hydroginated, or partially hydroginated oils. Some even add (ug!) cotton seed or soy bean oil... On 3/19/07, Gertrude wrote: http://www.oil-site.com/s/olive_oil_margarine Maybe you see wat you want Terry Trudy -- Day Sutton day.sut...@gmail.com -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.15/728 - Release Date: 3/20/2007 8:07 AM
RE: CS>Inquiry on RSD (Reflex Sympathetic Dystrophy)
Hi Pat I was a little disappointed to hear that CS had not helped your daughter. Can I ask what kind of quantities and times a day that she is using cs? I have chronic lymph edema and am very susceptible to cellulites, which can be a life threatening infection in my case. I have successfully treated it 3 times using CS alone. The regimen I use is 8-12oz every 1.5-2 hours thru out the day. If I go longer than 2 hours the infection becomes worse again. I plan on trying this on my fiancé who is the one with RSD for over 20 years. She is leery of dmso or I would try that as well. Best wishes Garry -Original Message- From: Pat [mailto:pattycake29...@yahoo.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2007 6:25 PM To: silver list Subject: Re: CS>Inquirey on RSD (Reflex Sympathetic Dystrophy) My daughter has had RSD/CRPS in one leg for about seven years. She uses quite a lot of colloidal silver, but it hasn't helped the RSD. It is such an awful disease. Pat Has anyone had any experience using cs on RSD/CRPS (Complex Regional Pain Syndrome)? This is a sympathetic nerve disease that can and often does follow surgery. Possibly viral? It is extremely painfull at times. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Garry The cost of Freedom is constant vigilence. -- Finding fabulous fares is fun. Let Yahoo! FareChase search your favorite travel sites to find flight and hotel bargains. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.11/723 - Release Date: 3/15/2007 11:27 AM
CS>Inquirey on RSD (Reflex Sympathetic Dystrophy)
Has anyone had any experience using cs on RSD/CRPS (Complex Regional Pain Syndrome)? This is a sympathetic nerve disease that can and often does follow surgery. Possibly viral? It is extremely painfull at times. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Garry The cost of Freedom is constant vigilence. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.9/719 - Release Date: 3/12/2007 8:41 AM
RE: CS>possible conflict between CS and antibiotics
Having recently cured a severe case of cellulites using only CS I found that the working dosage for me was 8oz approx 10ppm every 2 hours while waking. I also suffer from chronic edema in my legs aggravating any infection in that area. I also have found in the past that cs in conjunction with antibiotics is more effective than the antibiotics separately. hth Gary -Original Message- From: ronwilson [mailto:ronlwil...@worldnet.att.net] Sent: Saturday, September 14, 2002 10:26 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CS>possible conflict between CS and antibiotics Thank everyone for the information. Developed high temp., mussel ach, large running sores on swelled legs. Seen dr. and was hospitalized, Transferred to rest home for IVs. Test came out strep, infection.cellulites ( spelling). Am out on a short pass at moment. Will load on CS. Have wanted to sign my self out because of incompliant care. In way am being held hostage to the system because of insurance, to refuse treatment opened large can of worms. Feel will have it controlled shortly. Thanks again for information. Ron > -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
RE: CS>psoriasis
If you add CS to the molasses, sugar, yeast recipe you will probably kill the yeast which is the active ingredient. The sugar and molasses are both bait for the ants and food for the yeast. In other words you would just be feeding the ants if you add CS to the mix, unless the CS kills ants on it's own. Not sure about that part of the equation, but I wouldn't think that CS kills ants. Gary -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
RE: CS>Favorites folder
Do a search on *.pst, that will turn them up. Gary > -Original Message- > From: Trem [mailto:t...@silvergen.com] > Sent: Sunday, May 05, 2002 5:23 PM > To: silver-list@eskimo.com > Subject: Re: CS>Favorites folder > > > Hi James, > > Thanks for the reply. Part of the info worked. Found > "Favorites" in Documents and Settings but no luck on finding > any Outlook folders. I'm using Outlook Express which is > different. Did find my email address book in Documents and > settings\Application Data\Address book . If I could just find > the emails, I'd be pretty happy. > > Anyway, thanks again. > > Best regards, > > Trem > customer_serv...@silvergen.com > > > - Original Message - > From: "James L. McDaniel" > To: > Sent: Sunday, May 05, 2002 1:26 PM > Subject: RE: CS>Favorites folder > > > > Trem: > > > > I've never used XP but it may be like Windows 2000 and store the > > Favorites under the "Documents and Settings" Folder. Drill > down under > > your user id and you will probably see a Folder named > "Favorites". If > > not, select your "C" drive and do a search for "Favorites" and it > > should show you > everywhere > > that is used. > > > > As far as your Outlook data, it is probably stored in another > > subfolder under Documents and Settings. Try looking in: > > > > "C:\Documents and Settings\Local Settings\Application > > Data\Microsoft\Outlook" > > > > You are looking for the file named "outlook.pst". If you > don't find > > it, perform a search as mentioned above for "outlook.pst". > > > > If you have to reinstall Windows, be sure that you place > these files > > and folders back in the EXACT same location or Windows will not be > > able to > find > > them. > > > > James > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Trem [mailto:t...@silvergen.com] > > Sent: Sunday, May 05, 2002 2:38 PM > > To: silver-list@eskimo.com > > Subject: Re: CS>Favorites folder > > > > > > Hi Terry and everyone who has tried to tell us how to save our > > favorites. > I > > have WIN XP and there isn't any folder named "favorites" in Windows. > > > > I have searched and have never found any trace of either my > favorites, > email > > or email addresses. > > > > My machine regularly gets corrupted files and goes haywire. Then I > > have > to > > re-install windows and as a consequence I always lose my emails, > > email addresses and also my surfing favorites. If anyone > can tell me > > how to > save > > these three items and reinstall them after a new Windows install I > > would really be grateful. > > > > I have another hard drive to save them on so space isn't a > problem as > > if > it > > would be using a floppy. > > > > Mike, I'm sorry to post this but it sort of applies to CS > because many > > of the list emails are important to me and I hate to lose > them. So, > > maybe > this > > on topic in a slewed manner. > > > > Thanks to everyone that helps me on this one. You can > reply to me off > list > > so we don't bother those folks who have Macs :-) > > > > Trem > > > > customer_serv...@silvergen.com > > - Original Message - > > From: "Terry Chamberlin" > > To: > > Sent: Sunday, May 05, 2002 10:04 AM > > Subject: CS>Favorites folder > > > > > > > The "Favorites" Folder (not a file) is in the Windows > directory. You > > > can copy this Folder (it's a sub-directory full of files and > > > Folders) to a floppy for safe-keeping. After formatting your hard > > > drive and installing Windows, you simply copy the Favorites > > > Folder into the Windows directory. It will already > > > have such a favorites Folder there, so it will ask you > > > if you want to replace it (the Folders directory). Say > > > yes. When you click on the Favorites button in > > > Iexplorer, all your bookmarks will be there. > > > > > > Before Windows 95, where you stored your files on your > > > hard drive were called Directories and > > > sub-Directories. Now they are called Folders and > sub-directories (or > > > sub-Folders?). > > > > > > So if you drag the Favorites Folder from where it is > > > to drive A:, the entire Favorites Folder and all the > > > files and Folders within it will copy enmasse to your > floppy. (This > > > is for those who are unfamiliar with how to do this.) > > > > > > > > > > __ > > > Games, Movies, Music & Sports! http://entertainment.yahoo.ca > > > > > > > > > -- > > > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal > > > silver. > > > > > > To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an > e-mail message > > > to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- > > > silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or > > > unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > > > > > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > Silver-list > > > archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > > > List maintainer: Mike Devou
RE: CS>Dr. Stephen Barrett ABC Chat Transcript
Used what, if might ask? Thanks. Gary -Original Message- From: DJG [mailto:ql...@tds.net] Sent: Friday, January 25, 2002 10:12 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CS>Dr. Stephen Barrett ABC Chat Transcript Skin cancer is the easiest of all to eliminate. I've used it several times. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
RE: CS>Preventive
It's all Webster's fault!!! -Original Message- From: dannymetalmas...@aol.com [mailto:dannymetalmas...@aol.com] Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2001 12:26 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CS>Preventive Is this web site about Collodial Silver or semantics?
RE: CS>Virus Alert
This is a fairly old virus hoax. Sulfnbk.exe is part of windows operating system and is a long file name backup utility. It is on your hard drive if you have windows installed, and should not be deleted. http://www.symantec.com/avcenter/venc/data/sulfnbk.exe.warning.html Gary -Original Message- From: James Osbourne, Holmes [mailto:a...@cybermesa.com] Sent: Saturday, December 08, 2001 9:37 AM To: Mike Devour; Silver-List Subject: CS>Virus Alert Hello, I received the following message on Saturday 12-8-01 AM from a friend with whom I correspond occasionally. When I searched I found the file SULFNBK.EXE in C:/windows/command, and deleted it. It has been over a month since I corresponded with him. The message I received: ---start of message--- Please check the following information to see if we transferred a VIRUS to anyone. I was sent this from a client -- and we did have it on our C-Drive. Sorry -- we hope this hasn't transferred to you. Do the following instructions: This is a time release virus which means that Norton and MacAfee Anti- virus do not pick it up until it is too late. I was told that the virus may have attached itself to everyone in my address book, and that I should send this warning to all of you regardless of whether or not I have emailed you in the past week or so. Please follow the following directions to see if you have the virus and if you do, to eliminate it. Click on "start". Choose "find" or "search". Choose "files and /or folders". Select "find". Select "C drive". The file to search for is: SULFNBK.EXE If you find this file, DO NOT OPEN IT! SELECT THE FILE BY right clicking ON YOUR MOUSE AND DELETE IT! Then close the window and EMPTY YOUR RECYCLE BIN. Then email everyone in your address book and ask them to follow the same procedures. ---end of message--- James-Osbourne: Holmes
RE: CS>new virus
Now this one IS a known hoax. Gary -Original Message- From: Judith Thamm [mailto:galing...@chariot.net.au] Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2001 1:44 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CS>new virus PLEASE SEND THIS TO EVERYONE ON YOUR CONTACT LIST !! > > > > > > > > > > A new virus has just been discovered that has been classified by > > > > Microsoft > > > > > as the most destructive ever! This virus was discovered yesterday > > > > > afternoon > > > > > by McAfee and no vaccine has yet been developed. This virus simply > > > > > destroys > > > > > Sector Zero from the hard > > > > > disk, where vital information for its functioning are stored. This > > > > virus > > > > > acts in the following manner: It sends itself automatically to all > > > > > contacts > > > > > on your list with the title "A Virtual Card for You." > > > > > > > > > > As soon as the supposed virtual card is opened, the computer freezes > > > > so > > > > > that > > > > > the user has to reboot. When the ctrl+alt+del keys or the reset > button > > > > are > > > > > pressed, the virus destroys Sector Zero, thus permanently destroying > > > > the > > > > > hard disk. daSBull (11:13:05 AM): Yesterday in just a few hours this virus caused panic in > > > > New > > > > > York, according to news broadcast by CNN.This alert was received by > > > > an > > > > > employee of Microsoft itself. So don't open any mails with subject: > "A > > > > > Virtual Card for You." > > > > > As soon as you get the mail, delete it. Please pass this mail to > all > > > > of > > > > > your friends. Forward this to everyone in your address book. > > > > > > > > > > I would rather receive this 25 times than not at all. Also: Intel > > > > > announced > > > > > that a new and very destructive virus was discovered recently. If > you > > > > > receive an email called "An Internet Flower For You," do not open > it. > > > > > Delete > > > > > it right away! This virus removes all dynamic link libraries (.dll > > > > files) > > > > > from your computer. Your computer will not be able to boot up > > > > > !! > > > > > SEND THIS TO EVERYONE ON YOUR CONTACT LIST!! -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.303 / Virus Database: 164 - Release Date: 11/24/2001
RE: CS>e-mail worm tip
Actually it is not a hoax. While not 100% effective it will prevent those worms/virii from sending a virus on to ALL recipients in your address book. Some worms are selective and it will not stop those. However it MAY give some warning that you are infected. A good anti-virus program is obviously the best defense, as well as having the proper patches applied. Gary -Original Message- From: Tel Tofflemire [mailto:telt...@home.com] Sent: Monday, December 03, 2001 10:33 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CS>e-mail worm tip Its a HOAX Tel Tofflemire Phoenix, AZ Kevin Nolan wrote: Here is a tip from Gary North's newsletter: Another reader sent me this tip on how to keep your e- mail program from sending out virus-infected messages. Go to your address book. Add this name: 000 . His address is 0...@. This, my informant insists, will confuse any invading virus/worm that gets into your address book in search of the next batch of victims. I'm willing to try this. It can't hurt.Kevin Nolan
RE: CS>Sweet Cider and CS
I have been using CS to help keep both milk and cider for some time now. When I first started experimenting with CS for storage I tried it on some milk that had soured. After adding CS to the soured milk all smell was gone within about 5 minutes. I didn't drink it, but I would bet it was safe. I did try it on some cider that was starting to go to vinegar, and found it sweet again within minutes also. Gary -Original Message- From: blivic [mailto:bli...@webtv.net] Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2001 10:16 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CS>Sweet Cider and CS About three weeks ago I bought a gallon of sweet cider, unpasteurized, no additives and no preservatives. I keep it warmed on the old cook stove with cinnimon and ginger added. It was only cold for two days so I shut the stove down. Now I still had a half gallon of sweet cider in the refridgerator that was sure to ferment so I added two ounces of CS. Last week in anticipation of firing up the stove again I bought another gallon of the same cider. I opened the newly purchased cider today, poured out about 20 ounces and found it to be hard (fermented). I went back to the three week old cider and it is still sweet so I poured two ounces of CS into the 20 oz. hard cider and as long as it took to write this post the hard cider is now sweet. michael -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
RE: CS>CS effectiveness
Donna, do you have any sign of diabettes? Gary -Original Message- From: doodlso...@aol.com [mailto:doodlso...@aol.com] Sent: Sunday, December 02, 2001 8:16 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CS>CS effectiveness John, may I ask what kind of "inflamation-infection" you are fighting that coffee made worse? I love my am coffee but I am fighting a skin problem that flares up from I cant figure out what. AND the AMA guys only throw cortesteroids and freezing at it which only has made it worse. Thanks. Donna
RE: CS>we have worms??????
It sounds like you have the kak.worm, symantec has a fix-it util available. Anyone using outlook or outlook express should run this patch available from Microsoft if you are not running Internet Explorer Service Pack 2. If you don't know if you have upgraded IE then you almost certainly need it. http://www.microsoft.com/technet/treeview/default.asp?url=/technet/security/bulletin/MS01-020.asp Gary -Original Message- From: Paula P Smith [mailto:paul...@juno.com] Sent: Sunday, December 02, 2001 2:05 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CS>we have worms?? Please, I know that this is off topic of cs, but I seem to have picked up a virus ever since it began being a topic here on this listit may well be a coincidence. Anyway, if anyone knows about these things, please respond to me off list (paul...@juno.com). Symptoms include original gibberish message beginning with ka.something, something etc...in a box with a OK (my daughter actually clicked on this) Now all the icons flicker and jump around, making it difficult to click on programs. Re-booting ceases this for about a minute and then it returns. I have run NAV, with updates, run the removal tool for the W32.Badtrans.B, but sadly it told me that I did not have that virus..Can anyone offer any suggestions. Did a virus or worm get through??? Thank you for your time and Patience with this off topic e-mail. I am NOT accusing, just asking for suggestions and assistance. Paula P. Smith, Ph.D. International Board Certified Trauma Specialist vocatus atque non vocatus DEUS aderit 770-917-0819 fax 770-245-4909 pager GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
RE: CS>Digital Multimeter
http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/Displayitem.taf?itemnumber=41738 -Original Message- From: Scatter Brain [mailto:scttr...@webtv.net] Sent: Monday, November 19, 2001 1:55 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Cc: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CS>Digital Multimeter Digital mutimeters can be had at www.harborfreight.com for as little as $7. Ken I don't mean to be 'picky' but the cheapest I could find there was $9.99. Bess -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
RE: CS>bladder
If it were my child, I wouldn't hesitate to do that, and I can't see CS causing an infection. My concern would be that I did not use too much volume for the bladder. I wouldn't want to back things up as far as the kidneys. Anything you put into the catheter will come back out just as quickly, so it shouldn't be a problem. I'd want to keep the CS in there for 5 or 10 minutes or so. Not being a doctor, this is not medical advice, but it sounds like it would work to me. I've had a child with a catheter, although we didn't try using CS in this way. I might want to try it right after a fresh tubing change. Best wishes, Gary -Original Message- From: Nick Grant [mailto:nwgr...@inet.net.nz] Sent: Sunday, November 11, 2001 8:43 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CS>bladder Hi everyone Now its my turn to ask a hard question, similar to that of Christiane. This is for another friend. Some of you may remember the wee boy in question who has a rare problem with his sphincter muscles in his bladder, so that when he pees, he finds it very difficult. This has been an ongoing problem for quite awhile. The question is - he has had another infection due to the fact he has a supra pubic catheter tube inserted into his bladder, and so, as well as the long term abx, he was given a high dose of some very strong abx. He now has candida in his bladder, and the doctors will do nothing about it. They keep saying that it is because of the tube going into his bladder that candida is there, and if they remove the tube the candida will go. Twaddle. Can my friend put CS down the tube in to the bladder - will it cause a problem to do this, or an infection of some sort? Look forward to your help. She is just a little hesitant to put anything directly into the bladder. Tracy -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
RE: CS>ccsilver.com
They have been fast and reliable for me. Gary -Original Message- From: Pamela Maltzman [mailto:pbmaltz...@yahoo.com] Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2001 1:26 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CS>ccsilver.com Thank you. I was wondering if other people found them good to deal with. That is where I just ordered some 12-gauge round wire a couple of hours ago. I am now awaiting an e-mail confirmation of the order, so that I can send off a money order. Their prices on silver wire sound good. Their prices on regular silver rectangles and rounds sound a little higher than local coin shops. Pam __ Do You Yahoo!? Find a job, post your resume. http://careers.yahoo.com -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
RE: CS>ANTHRAX SPORE COVERINGS
Hi Samantha, I've never used dmso, so I think I'll just stay with straight CS. Really not to hard to use a nebulizer, you'll have no trouble when you get it. I saw CS work with a couple of asthma patients and a nebulizer. Just amazing how fast it worked and how long they were symptom free. Good luck. Gary -Original Message- From: Silver Samm [mailto:silversam...@hotmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2001 12:53 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CS>ANTHRAX SPORE COVERINGS Thanks, Gary. I did a whole long search thing on eBay awhile back and was still very confused, but I suppose it wouldn't hurt to buy one and then figure it out from there. Do you intend to use DMSO in your nebulizing with CS? Samantha >From: "Quietcove" > > >Hi Samantha, > >The easiest way for someone who is not a do-it-yourselfer >to get a nebulizer is to buy one of the pre-made units. >You don't get the benefit of the oxygen, but it should still >be effective. I bought one on ebay for around $30. delivered. >And no oxy tanks to refill if you're sick and need them. > >Gary >-Original Message- >From: Silver Samm [mailto:silversam...@hotmail.com] >Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2001 12:52 AM >To: silver-list@eskimo.com >Subject: Re: CS>ANTHRAX SPORE COVERINGS > > >If a person is just taking CS internally but not nebulizing, is there a way >to introduce DMSO into the situation in order to penetrate spore coverings? >Thanks if you or anyone can help. I just don't "get" nebulizing. From >descriptions, I can't figure out what all you have to buy and if you need >O2 >cannisters or not. > >Samantha > > > >From: "brooks bradley" > > > > We have found that 10% DMSO (by volume) solutions > >penetratequite easilyALL spore coverings against which tested. >We > >HAVE NOT conducted any evaluations against Anthrax spores themselves (as >we > >do not bring infectious organisms of this danger level into our > >facilities). However, we have tested a number of "similar" spore > >structures. All have proven vulnerable > >to solutions containing DMSO. Additionally, DMSO maintains the integrity > >of its transport capabilities (including saponifiers)..in these > >circumstances. > > Sincerely, Brooks Bradley. > > >_ >Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp > > _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
RE: CS>ANTHRAX SPORE COVERINGS
Hi Samantha, The easiest way for someone who is not a do-it-yourselfer to get a nebulizer is to buy one of the pre-made units. You don't get the benefit of the oxygen, but it should still be effective. I bought one on ebay for around $30. delivered. And no oxy tanks to refill if you're sick and need them. Gary -Original Message- From: Silver Samm [mailto:silversam...@hotmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2001 12:52 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CS>ANTHRAX SPORE COVERINGS If a person is just taking CS internally but not nebulizing, is there a way to introduce DMSO into the situation in order to penetrate spore coverings? Thanks if you or anyone can help. I just don't "get" nebulizing. From descriptions, I can't figure out what all you have to buy and if you need O2 cannisters or not. Samantha >From: "brooks bradley" > > We have found that 10% DMSO (by volume) solutions >penetratequite easilyALL spore coverings against which tested. We >HAVE NOT conducted any evaluations against Anthrax spores themselves (as we >do not bring infectious organisms of this danger level into our >facilities). However, we have tested a number of "similar" spore >structures. All have proven vulnerable >to solutions containing DMSO. Additionally, DMSO maintains the integrity >of its transport capabilities (including saponifiers)..in these >circumstances. > Sincerely, Brooks Bradley. _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
RE: CS>The many miracles of goat milk
That`s true! My Saanen doeling loved to hop from the ground, to the car roof, then up to the van roof and jump down to do it all over again! She also loved to race with my sister`s 4 Great Danes...now that was a sight!! As to the poison oak, mine ate it and laid in it. I got a nasty case of poison oak on the insides of my legs when I straddled her to trim her toes one day, while wearing shorts! Yikes! Wish I`d had CS back then. Marshalee The great Dane races sound like fun, but that case of poison oak sure doesn't sound like it was fun at all! I haven't tried CS on poison oak, but if you scratch it till it is open and rub a little wood ash in it, it works wonders. Gary -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
RE: CS>The many miracles of goat milk
Very interesting Thelma. The only thing I have to add, from experience, is cows are much less likely to dance on the roof of your car! Also goats are brush eaters rather than grass eaters, so maybe that is where the difference is? Mine sure loved poison oak and manzanitta. Gary -Original Message- From: Thelma Seto [mailto:tgs...@hotmail.com] Sent: Sunday, October 28, 2001 9:25 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CS>The many miracles of goat milk Robb-- I have been told by others that the old time remedy for arthritis is goat milk. It won't undo the damage already done (maybe), but it will arrest its progress. Rheumatoid arthritis is particularly difficult to deal with...so you'd better try everything you can. Nettles are supposed to be very good for it as well. Goat's milk (preferably fresh, raw, and from a goat that is allowed to forage on wild weeds and grasses and brush) is very good for many ailments, including allergies, arthritis, auto-immune disorders, asthma, etc. I moved to the country (and ended up taking up goats) due to a very bad case of carpal tunnel. Since I couldn't make a living in the city any more, moved out here, got a grade goat for household milk who ate the weeds around our house and ran free. Lo and behold, three weeks after she came into milk that first year my carpal tunnel disappeared and has not reappeared in four years. The carpal tunnel was bad enough that I was drinking coffee through a straw and asking my kid to do everything, including chopping veggies and hauling water from the well. I have since learned that pediatricians prescribe goats' milk for crack babies and children with asthma, etc. Milk from a CAE (goat virus--doesn't affect humans) infected goat may be a preventative to HIV infection. Why does this happen? A cow dairy neighbor thinks that wild vegetation has the proper mix of omega-3 and omega-6 and that seed created by humans has these ratios changed to increase shelf life which has actually contributed to all the arthritis, allergies, auto-immune disorders, etc. But this doesn't explain why cow milk doesn't help arthritis. I do know that goat milk is naturally homogenized and, actually is much healthier than cow milk, if you analyze it nutritionally. Not to mention goats have a lot more personality than cows... So find someone with a goat. Or get one or two yourself. But be forewarned: They are very addictive. (Incidentally, if you have a goat or two, you can kiss your lawnmower goodbye. And stop worrying about weeds--that's their preferred food.) I would not buy goat milk at the store. Ideally, you want to drink it raw and as fresh as possible. Plus keeping a goat will cost you around $80 a year; goat milk sells for between $10-20 per gallon in the stores and $5-10 per gallon straight off the farm. So go git your own goat! Thelma _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
RE: CS>Blue lady
Hi Josephine, The internet is an interesting place, there is no skin color here. We are all black and white. (Except for the html geeks!) Argyria is a possible concern to all who use silver. I sincerely doubt that it is a concern with CS though, as there seems to have never been a case due to CS. If I turn into a smurf I'll let you know! Wishing you peace and good health. Gary Is this gray concern mostly for those with white exteriors? Josephine Hawaii -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
RE: CS>Another request for info
Hi Thelma, The only two things I can think of that weigh in favor of a "store bought" generator are; 1)current regulation- MAY make smaller particles or finer CS 2)Automatic Shutoff- Most important-A real plus if it's accurate. If it doesn't have both features, why bother, you can easily make your own. Franklin halves + dollars are 60% silver, iirc, and not suitable for CS. The newer bullion coins with the large walking liberty are fine silver I believe. Do not use any other American coin. Gary -Original Message- From: Thelma Seto [mailto:tgs...@hotmail.com] Sent: Friday, October 26, 2001 10:41 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CS>Another request for info Okay. Since you were so helpful in answering my other questions, I have another one for you and I'd appreciate any and everyone with an opinion to weigh in because taking everyone's opinion into consideration seems to work best for me since I am so new to this list. I have decided that I do not want to buy CS; I want to make my own. I know I can do it, with a fair amount of frustration and some kind of learning curve, with a very simple set-up. But I also know that I can buy some kind of ready-made generator and just do it to it right off the bat. I would like to know how many people make their CS with home-made set-ups and how many use store-bought generators. What are the pros and cons? Can someone explain in simple English how to measure your ppm's and exactly what is needed? If you prefer a ready-made generator, where did you get yours and how much was it (and how long ago). And also, how has it held up? What features would you look for in a ready-made generator, assuming you do not want to spend a lot of money on the gizmo. I have a jewelry-making friend who told me those Franklin dollars are . silver and that the silver wires are a good deal more expensive because they are fabricated. You have to have the silver in wire form or not? If not, scrap silver from a jewelry store is much cheaper... Thelma _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
RE: CS>Re: Where to Get Silver Wire?
I get 12 or 14ga .999 silver wire from www.ccsilver.com You need to buy 5 feet or so at a time because of a $20 minimum. They have been good on price and service. Gary -Original Message- From: Wayne Goldin [mailto:appl...@mindspring.com] Sent: Friday, October 26, 2001 6:13 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CS>Re: Where to Get Silver Wire? Where do you get the .999 Silver wire? Is it a home depot item?
RE: CS>building or buying a cs maker
Hi Rusty, The easiest way to make a CS is generator is to get a "24 volt DC wall type power supply". Radio Shack should have them. Cut off the end with the little plug. Pull the two wires apart and strip the ends. Add a couple of alligator clips to the ends. That's it. You can get .999 or . fine silver wire at http://www.ccsilver.com for a pretty good price. Make sure you get "fine" silver wire, Sterling is NOT good for CS. If you want a nice little pre-made unit that will shut itself off when it's done try http://www.silverpuppy.com/page1b.html Have fun, it is VERY easy to make CS. But use only distilled water. Gary -Original Message- From: rusty233 [mailto:rusty...@home.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2001 8:33 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CS>building or buying a cs maker Hello all, am new to this group, I joined because I want to make a cs generator, is that what they are called? I am a kind of stupid woman so I need all directions given in the simplest language, so i can understand them, as i have to build it myself. would so appreciate any help i can get. went to the archives, but still learning my way around there and didn't find anything on building the machines will keep looking, what i did find i couldn't understand, the terms used. (told you I was a dummy) hee hee thanks, Rusty
RE: CS>Welcome!
Hi Marshalee, Thank you for sharing your story. How much CS did you use a day before you really started getting relief from the Lyme symptoms. I know several people with Lyme, so it would be a help. Thanks for any info. Gary -Original Message- From: Marshalee Hallett [mailto:liah...@utah-inter.net] Sent: Saturday, October 20, 2001 10:14 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CS>Welcome! Dear Newbies, Hi, and welcome from an oldie on this newsgroup! My name is Marshalee, (snip) I now have 2 missions in life, working on the genealogy, and sharing the CS information with all who will listen! Love, Marshalee Hallett, mom to 4 and grandma to 4, 3 living. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
RE: CS Made for the 2nd Time
Hi Julie, Mason Jars and Pickle jars work great too. I use a 4 x 4" piece of 1/4" plywood with 3 holes drilled in the top to hold the wires straight and allow for the air hose. If you can't make one yourself, email me. Gary -Original Message- From: wolfcreek1 [mailto:wolfcre...@earthlink.net] Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2001 11:21 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CS Made for the 2nd Time Gary, So if I'm using this in a glass with 2 cups of water, won't it make my silver wires bounce around and hit one another and/or the sides of the glass? It's been a tough order to find a glass tall and wide enough for 5" of the wire to fit without touching the sides or bottom of the container. Help! Julie & Critters - Original Message - From: "Quietcove" To: Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2001 6:39 AM Subject: RE: CS Made for the 2nd Time > > Hi Julie > > You need a small fish tank air pump, some plastic > tubing and a bubble stone. All of it is available > at Wal-Mart for around $10.00. Yup, you would just be > using it to stir the CS, and it does a fine job. > Well worth the money for the improvement in > the quality of your CS. Have fun! > > Gary > > -Original Message- > From: wolfcreek1 [mailto:wolfcre...@earthlink.net] > Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2001 10:38 PM > To: silver-list@eskimo.com > Subject: Re: CS Made for the 2nd Time > > > > The only thing I would suggest is a fish tank bubble > > stone to continuously stir the water. > > Hi Gary ~ > > I assume this fish tank bubble stone has it's own electrical cord and > essentially it's function is stirring up the CS or is it the oxygen it > produces? > > I will look into this at my local pet store! > > Thanks, > > Julie & Critters > > > -- > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: > silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > List maintainer: Mike Devour >
RE: CS Made for the 2nd Time
Hi Marshalee, All CS is certainly effective, but stirring does make for an obviously clearer CS with much lower tyndal effect, and I am very sure, smaller particles. It also will be more stable in storage because there will be less agglomeration. As has been noted many times on the list smaller particles will be more useful against virus. It is such a simple thing to do that I just can't see any reason not to. Give it a try, I think you'll see a difference. Gary -Original Message- From: Marshalee Hallett [mailto:liah...@utah-inter.net] Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2001 10:11 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CS Made for the 2nd Time Dear Gary, I have never heated my water, or bubbled it, or stirred it, not even filtered it for the last 6 years, and I`m still totally well. Why bother? Marshalee > Hi Julie > > You need a small fish tank air pump, some plastic > tubing and a bubble stone. All of it is available > at Wal-Mart for around $10.00. Yup, you would just be > using it to stir the CS, and it does a fine job. > Well worth the money for the improvement in > the quality of your CS. Have fun! > > Gary -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
RE: CS Made for the 2nd Time
Hi Julie You need a small fish tank air pump, some plastic tubing and a bubble stone. All of it is available at Wal-Mart for around $10.00. Yup, you would just be using it to stir the CS, and it does a fine job. Well worth the money for the improvement in the quality of your CS. Have fun! Gary -Original Message- From: wolfcreek1 [mailto:wolfcre...@earthlink.net] Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2001 10:38 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CS Made for the 2nd Time > The only thing I would suggest is a fish tank bubble > stone to continuously stir the water. Hi Gary ~ I assume this fish tank bubble stone has it's own electrical cord and essentially it's function is stirring up the CS or is it the oxygen it produces? I will look into this at my local pet store! Thanks, Julie & Critters -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
RE: CS Made for the 2nd Time
Hi Julie The only thing I would suggest is a fish tank bubble stone to continuously stir the water. You could also use a small electric motor, but it's a little harder to rig up. Both methods work great and really improve the quality. 2 cups of water is fine. If you want to make more, use longer wires or it will take a lot longer, but it will still work. As Marshall mentioned, his phone line generator works a treat. Just strip off one end of a phone cord, add a couple clips, and now you don't need batteries at all. If it has four wires in the cord, you need the center two. This will get you 52 volts for free. Very cool. Gary -Original Message- From: wolfcreek1 [mailto:wolfcre...@earthlink.net] Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2001 1:52 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CS Made for the 2nd Time Okay, cyber teachers, student Julie is on the loose again! I tossed out the first batch. Made two new ones with no saline. I have a 27 volt system (3-9 volt batteries). I used 2 cups DW, turned on for 30 minutes, cleaned the silver wire, and turned back on for another 30 minutes. I'm ready to make my CS again. What improvements to my technique would you suggest? I am going to use my DMM to test the initial current and cook till the DMM reads about 3 ma, per Ole Bob's instructions. What else? Should I use 2 cups of water, more or less? Add another 9 volt battery to get 36 volts? Thanks again. Some of this is fun! Other times it's frustrating, but I'm learning thanks to everyone and much appreciate the lessons and free CS! Happy Howling, Julie & Critters Wolf Creek Ranch mailto:wolfcre...@earthlink.net http://wolfcreekranch1.tripod.com/index.html Home of Whispering Winds Wholistic Animal Sanctuary "The person who says it cannot be done, should not interrupt the person doing it." "Don't dream a dream, live a dream and let reality sleep." ~ Enyo Johnson -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
RE: CS>AC adaptor/CS
Hi Jim, You are confusing voltage and current (amperage). You can increase DC voltage without a problem. This will lower the available amperage, but for making CS that isn't a problem. Your friend is right, a resistor will limit the current in the circuit, but it isn't really necessary, since you shut off when the current gets to 2-3ma @ 30volts. The current will start much lower, around .2-.4mA using only good distilled water. If your starting current is higher than that, get your water from somewhere else. Your voltage will remain constant throughout the process. As the solution gains more silver in the water, the resistance of the water will steadily drop, allowing more current to pass thru the water. You simply clip one end of your multimeter to one side of the generator, and the other end of your multimeter to one of the silver wires. Set it to read mA and watch the meter. Make sure you pay close attention to the polarity of the meter when you connect it, or you can blow out the meter. See the instruction manual for how to read amperage with your digital meter. Hope that helps Jim. The setup above is only good for people using constant voltage generators (3x 9volt or a power supply). If you are using a current regulated generator, you need to figure out what voltage to shut off at instead, since it is another variable in the equation. You can do that by clipping a 15Kohm 1/2 watt resistor in place of your silver wires, and then measuring the voltage at the clips. This will give you the voltage you want to shut off at. When your voltage drops to the value you just measured, shut off your generator. Simple. This method will give you a highly repeatable grade of CS. If you don't care about that, don't worry, what you are doing is probably working just great for you. Gary -Original Message- From: Acmeair [mailto:res00...@gte.net] Sent: Monday, October 15, 2001 1:01 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CS>AC adaptor/CS gary, thanks for the response, and the info. i've checked with a close friend that into this electrons thing, and he confirmed the switching of polarity with dpdt switch. he also stated that a simple resistor would limit the current to the desired 2-3ma. he threw me a curve on the voltage tripler, stating that you can triple ac current, but not dc. i thought i had seen on this site, someone taking one of these old adapters, and bumping the current up to around 30 volts. did i misunderstand something here? thanks again,jim, O+, S - Original Message - From: Quietcove To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, October 12, 2001 10:58 PM Subject: RE: CS>AC adaptor/CS Hi Jim, You are quite right, your current did go up near the end of your run. Put your digital ammeter in series, using 10.3 volts, turn off the generator at 686 uA which should be approximately 10ppm. If you want 5ppm turn it off at 515 uA. When you go to 31volts turn it off at 2.06mA for 10ppm or 1.55mA for 5ppm. This is the same as 15000 or 2 ohms total resistance for both voltages. Current regulation is really un-necessary since you should never allow the current to go above 2-3mA (@ 30 volts) with high quality distilled water. Of course there is lots of room for advanced experimentation. See some of Bob Lee's recent posts for truly advanced techniques in the highest form of the CS art. Bless you, Bob Lee. The figures above use a 2" to 2 1/4" spacing on your electrodes with about 3 1/2" wetted 14ga silver wire and 16oz of room temperature water. Adding a fish tank bubble stone or small stirring motor or hand stirring makes a lot of difference in the quality of the CS, but have fun, it all works well! Gary -Original Message- From: Acmeair [mailto:res00...@gte.net] Sent: Friday, October 12, 2001 7:37 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CS>AC adaptor/CS have just made my first batch of CS , using an old ac adaptor. 117V/60 Hz/3W with an output of 9vdc, 200ma. will try to make a voltage tripler, using the diagram from the url posted by geo. martin, on 3 oct. thanks for the post, geo. the cs turned out a nice light yeller, and didn't take long.about 20 minutes. did notice that near the end of the cycle, a lot of black fuzz was growin on anode/ cathod???. my guess is that as the concentration of the cs went up, the current flow increased. and also, the silver wires were quite close. what would the best current flow to make 5-15 ppm cs? after the tripler, the voltage should be about 31, as the measured output of this adaptor is 10.3 volts. how would one restrict the current flow as the cs increases in strength. also, could you switch the polarity back and forth with dpdt switch? would appreciate any an all comments.jim, O+, S
RE: CS>PPM measurement
I've noticed that too, Ken, and thought it was due to some agglomeration also. I think Ole Bob is referring to a change in the conductivity during the run without seeing a change in the ionic silver content. That has me wondering. Gary -Original Message- From: Ode Coyote [mailto:coy...@alltel.net] Sent: Monday, October 15, 2001 12:43 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CS>PPM measurement What I've seen is the PPM reading drop by a few points overnight and the TE increase. The ionic content goes a bit into colloids accounting for the drop in conductivity and the increase of TE. Ken At 02:07 AM 10/15/01 -0400, you wrote: >-Original Message- >From: bober...@postoffice.swbell.net >[mailto:bober...@postoffice.swbell.net] >Sent: Sunday, October 14, 2001 9:37 PM >To: silver-list@eskimo.com >Subject: Re: CS>PPM measurement > > >[Gary]- Hello Bob, How do you account for the change in conductivity? > >I bougth one of those things several years ago and have since junked it, >because >the conductivity of CS can and does change without ionic silver changing. > >Bob. > > >-- >The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > >To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: >silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com >with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > >To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com >Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html >List maintainer: Mike Devour > >
Re: CS>PPM measurement
-Original Message- From: bober...@postoffice.swbell.net [mailto:bober...@postoffice.swbell.net] Sent: Sunday, October 14, 2001 9:37 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CS>PPM measurement [Gary]- Hello Bob, How do you account for the change in conductivity? I bougth one of those things several years ago and have since junked it, because the conductivity of CS can and does change without ionic silver changing. Bob. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
RE: CS>AC adaptor/CS
Hi Steve Steve It has been mentioned many times on this list that LVDC produces mostly ionic CS. One of the more knowledgeable members on the list stated that their tested LVDC reads 15 and 20K ohms respectively. This also agrees with my own PWT readings, so I believe these figures to be a darn close approximation of total ppm. Given the number of relative constants the result should be relatively constant. And it is. That is how automatic generators know when to shut off. Gary -Original Message- From: S & J Young [mailto:you...@konnections.net] Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2001 7:17 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CS>AC adaptor/CS Gary, Upon what do you base your assertion that 10 ppm brew will measure about 15kOhm, and 5 ppm will measure about 20 kOhm? As I understand it, the kOhms will relate to the amount of silver ions in the brew, not the ppm of silver colloids. Do you assume the rate of production of colloids and ions is the same, or what? --Steve - Original Message - From: "Quietcove" To: Sent: Friday, October 12, 2001 11:58 PM Subject: RE: CS>AC adaptor/CS > Hi Jim, > > You are quite right, your current did go up near the end of your run. > Put your digital ammeter in series, using 10.3 volts, turn off the generator at 686 uA which > should be approximately 10ppm. If you want 5ppm turn it off at 515 uA. > > When you go to 31volts turn it off at 2.06mA for 10ppm or 1.55mA for 5ppm. > This is the same as 15000 or 2 ohms total resistance for both voltages. > > Current regulation is really un-necessary since you should never allow the > current to go above 2-3mA (@ 30 volts) with high quality distilled water. > Of course there is lots of room for advanced experimentation. See some > of Bob Lee's recent posts for truly advanced techniques in the highest > form of the CS art. Bless you, Bob Lee. > > The figures above use a 2" to 2 1/4" spacing on your electrodes with about 3 1/2" wetted > 14ga silver wire and 16oz of room temperature water. Adding a fish tank bubble stone > or small stirring motor or hand stirring makes a lot of difference in the quality of the CS, but > have fun, it all works well! > > Gary > > -Original Message- > From: Acmeair [mailto:res00...@gte.net] > Sent: Friday, October 12, 2001 7:37 PM > To: silver-list@eskimo.com > Subject: CS>AC adaptor/CS > > > have just made my first batch of CS , using an old ac adaptor. 117V/60 Hz/3W with an output of 9vdc, 200ma. will try > to make a voltage tripler, using the diagram from the url posted by geo. martin, on 3 oct. thanks for the post, geo. > > the cs turned out a nice light yeller, and didn't take long.about 20 minutes. did notice that near the end of the > cycle, a lot of black fuzz was growin on anode/ cathod???. my guess is that as the concentration of the cs went up, the > current flow increased. and also, the silver wires were quite close. > > what would the best current flow to make 5-15 ppm cs? after the tripler, the voltage should be about 31, as the > measured output of this adaptor is 10.3 volts. how would one restrict the current flow as the cs increases in strength. > > also, could you switch the polarity back and forth with dpdt switch? would appreciate any an all comments. > jim, O+, S > -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
RE: CS PPM Meter
A Hannah PWT will give you a close approximation. It's about the best you can do without spending big $. At least that seems to be the general consensus, with one or two notable dissenters. I have one, and it agrees with my expected results. It is better than nothing at all, although it may not be exact. They are about $40-50usd. quietcove -Original Message- From: wolfcreek1 [mailto:wolfcre...@earthlink.net] Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2001 1:25 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CS PPM Meter Any chance there's a nice, easy to read meter that measures PPM's? Somehow, I know there's no such thing, but have to ask. Happy Howling, Julie & Critters Wolf Creek Ranch mailto:wolfcre...@earthlink.net http://wolfcreekranch1.tripod.com/index.html Home of Whispering Winds Wholistic Animal Sanctuary "The person who says it cannot be done, should not interrupt the person doing it." "Don't dream a dream, live a dream and let reality sleep." ~ Enyo Johnson
RE: CS>AC adaptor/CS
Hi Jim, You are quite right, your current did go up near the end of your run. Put your digital ammeter in series, using 10.3 volts, turn off the generator at 686 uA which should be approximately 10ppm. If you want 5ppm turn it off at 515 uA. When you go to 31volts turn it off at 2.06mA for 10ppm or 1.55mA for 5ppm. This is the same as 15000 or 2 ohms total resistance for both voltages. Current regulation is really un-necessary since you should never allow the current to go above 2-3mA (@ 30 volts) with high quality distilled water. Of course there is lots of room for advanced experimentation. See some of Bob Lee's recent posts for truly advanced techniques in the highest form of the CS art. Bless you, Bob Lee. The figures above use a 2" to 2 1/4" spacing on your electrodes with about 3 1/2" wetted 14ga silver wire and 16oz of room temperature water. Adding a fish tank bubble stone or small stirring motor or hand stirring makes a lot of difference in the quality of the CS, but have fun, it all works well! Gary -Original Message- From: Acmeair [mailto:res00...@gte.net] Sent: Friday, October 12, 2001 7:37 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CS>AC adaptor/CS have just made my first batch of CS , using an old ac adaptor. 117V/60 Hz/3W with an output of 9vdc, 200ma. will try to make a voltage tripler, using the diagram from the url posted by geo. martin, on 3 oct. thanks for the post, geo. the cs turned out a nice light yeller, and didn't take long.about 20 minutes. did notice that near the end of the cycle, a lot of black fuzz was growin on anode/ cathod???. my guess is that as the concentration of the cs went up, the current flow increased. and also, the silver wires were quite close. what would the best current flow to make 5-15 ppm cs? after the tripler, the voltage should be about 31, as the measured output of this adaptor is 10.3 volts. how would one restrict the current flow as the cs increases in strength. also, could you switch the polarity back and forth with dpdt switch? would appreciate any an all comments. jim, O+, S
RE: CS>New forum for ideas
Guess I'll throw in my me too. Gary -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
RE: CS>Followup Remarks on Bioterrorism Preparations Found on Quackwatch
I have a feeling Anthrax wouldn't stand a chance against this method, as long as you caught it early enough. I hope we never have to find out. Gary -Original Message- From: James Osbourne, Holmes [mailto:a...@cybermesa.com] Sent: Monday, October 08, 2001 2:51 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CS>Followup Remarks on Bioterrorism Preparations Found on Quackwatch That is wonderful. The therapy is not mine. A young researcher with Brooks Bradley's group originated it. Every time I have seen this protocol used it has been amazing. The last direct experience here was with a 65 year old man who had several months of lung infection from an unknown mold. Nothing else was working. It took only a few days to almost eliminate his symptoms. His first act afterwards was to go by an airbrush and an O2 regulator. James-Osbourne: Holmes -Original Message- From: Quietcove [mailto:quiet...@midcoast.com] Sent: Saturday, October 06, 2001 4:36 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CS>Followup Remarks on Bioterrorism Preparations Found on Quackwatch Hi James, I wanted to tell you that we had an opportunity to test your inhalation therapy with two asthma sufferers a couple of weeks ago. The results were immediate and quite amazing to watch. One lady was having a fairly severe attack which went away in minutes, followed by hours of relief. I wonder if asthma isn't due to some pathogen... There was no apparent herxheimer reaction. Anyway, thanks for posting that. I'll be ordering a couple of airbrushes for whatever arises. Gary -Original Message- From: James Osbourne, Holmes [mailto:a...@cybermesa.com] Sent: Saturday, October 06, 2001 11:24 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CS>Followup Remarks on Bioterrorism Preparations Found on Quackwatch Perhaps this is a good time to mention the inhalation of CS/MSM/02 with conventional nebulizer or, el-cheapo airbrush from Harbor Freight coupled with standard small Presto brand O2 regulator. James-Osbourne: Holmes
RE: CS>Nebulizer info
I for one would like to see the voltage tripler version included, since 9 volt wall adapters are in most homes already I would think. Also many people have ni-cads available. Of course the simplest of all is the phone line generator. Just strip one side of a phone cord, add two alligator clips, plug it in and away you go. Brilliant in it's simplicity. I don't remember who on the list suggested that, but pat yourself on the back! Make sure you see George Martins post on vaporizers. He suggests ebay for a nebulizer. They are going for 25$-60$ USD, not sure what that works out to in AUD at the moment, but it could save you some money. Gary -Original Message- From: damian [mailto:damian...@optusnet.com.au] Sent: Saturday, October 06, 2001 1:04 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CS>Nebulizer info I've heard people mention there use of CS in nebulizer and some say that you must use extremely high quality nebulizers to make the particle size small. However then theres those who use vaporizers and say they have good success. Surely then if i were to buy a cheaper nebulizer and not an expensive ultrasonic version there should be no problem. I've been thinking of getting one for some time now. The model ive been looking at uses a pump and not pure oxygen. Its about $140 Australian. Any thoughts people before i go and throw my money away. I seem to be doing that allot latly and are getting sick of it. Ok people take care. Oh yeah who is in charge of compiling the faq. Joseph has just about finished the schematic for a 9V CS maker with current regulator. Who does this get mailed to if it is to be included in the faq. I believe some people are against using a voltage trippler. I reckon it should be included in the faq and let the person decide. Take care damian -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
RE: CS>Followup Remarks on Bioterrorism Preparations Found on Quackwatch
Hi James, I wanted to tell you that we had an opportunity to test your inhalation therapy with two asthma sufferers a couple of weeks ago. The results were immediate and quite amazing to watch. One lady was having a fairly severe attack which went away in minutes, followed by hours of relief. I wonder if asthma isn't due to some pathogen... There was no apparent herxheimer reaction. Anyway, thanks for posting that. I'll be ordering a couple of airbrushes for whatever arises. Gary -Original Message- From: James Osbourne, Holmes [mailto:a...@cybermesa.com] Sent: Saturday, October 06, 2001 11:24 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CS>Followup Remarks on Bioterrorism Preparations Found on Quackwatch Perhaps this is a good time to mention the inhalation of CS/MSM/02 with conventional nebulizer or, el-cheapo airbrush from Harbor Freight coupled with standard small Presto brand O2 regulator. James-Osbourne: Holmes
RE: CS>Firing CS onto water purifiers
Yes, I think that method just might introduce too many variables into the process, particularly since repeatability under field conditions is going to be such a concern. Gary -Original Message- From: rogalt...@aol.com [mailto:rogalt...@aol.com] Sent: Saturday, October 06, 2001 4:34 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CS>Firing CS onto water purifiers In a message dated 10/6/2001 3:10:40 PM Eastern Daylight Time, quiet...@midcoast.com writes: Subj:RE: CS>Firing CS onto water purifiers Date:10/6/2001 3:10:40 PM Eastern Daylight Time From:quiet...@midcoast.com (Quietcove) Reply-to: silver-list@eskimo.com To:silver-list@eskimo.com Thanks Roger. I think I confused Celsius and Fahrenheit on that one. In that case, do you think ground silver included in the grog before the first firing would be suitable for the filters? Maybe it would be cost prohibitive though, I am sure that CS would be cheaper. Gary Gary: I really think the clay filter production process has to be reduced to as few operating variables as possible. After that, microscopic analysis (to determine the phases of silver) of clay samples corresponding to extreme values of these essential process variables would be the next step. Under such circumstances, the first thing I would want to find out is, (1) the form(s) of silver, (2) their respective PPM, and (3) the particle size distribution of each. A possible second step would be regression analysis to determine if certain process variables are relatable to the silver characterization determined in the first step. Roger
RE: CS>colloidal silver maker
Try this link for do it yourself. http://www.fasterhorses.com/collsilvermaker.html or pre-made try www.silverpuppy.com -Original Message- From: ringda...@aol.com [mailto:ringda...@aol.com] Sent: Saturday, October 06, 2001 11:13 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CS>colloidal silver maker Looking for an inexpensive, reliable colloidal silver maker. Any recommendations or suggestions? Harry Davis -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
RE: CS>Firing CS onto water purifiers
Thanks Roger. I think I confused Celsius and Fahrenheit on that one. In that case, do you think ground silver included in the grog before the first firing would be suitable for the filters? Maybe it would be cost prohibitive though, I am sure that CS would be cheaper. Gary -Original Message- From: rogalt...@aol.com [mailto:rogalt...@aol.com] Sent: Saturday, October 06, 2001 12:11 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CS>Firing CS onto water purifiers In a message dated 10/6/2001 9:51:47 AM Eastern Daylight Time, quiet...@midcoast.com writes: Reid wrote: > The main reason we cannot apply the CS until after > the first firing is that it is necessary to reach at least 700 or > 800C, and preferrably 900C, in order to achieve good strength. In this > way the earthenware becomes hard and strong enough to help insure a > long lifetime. It is a problem that the silver will burn off at a > much lower temperature than 700. [Quietcove] The boiling point for silver is 1068C. Would it burn off below it's boiling point? I think you're confusing the boiling point of silver with the melting point of gold. Silver melts at 962C and boils at 2162C. Silver oxide is not stabile above about 150C (if memory serves). Roger
RE: CS>Firing CS onto water purifiers
-Original Message- From: M. G. Devour [mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com] Sent: Saturday, October 06, 2001 5:12 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CS>Firing CS onto water purifiers Reid wrote: > The main reason we cannot apply the CS until after > the first firing is that it is necessary to reach at least 700 or > 800C, and preferrably 900C, in order to achieve good strength. In this > way the earthenware becomes hard and strong enough to help insure a > long lifetime. It is a problem that the silver will burn off at a > much lower temperature than 700. [Quietcove] The boiling point for silver is 1068C. Would it burn off below it's boiling point? M. G. Devour wrote: If the silver is literally driven out of the matrix, evaporating, then there may not be much left. What is left may not be in an accessible form. It'd be necessary to try it in various ways to see if that indeed happens. Didn't think about the comparative temperatures. You are attempting to use a lower firing to "set" the silver in place by baking to above the metal's melting point. The kiln is a simple one run on locally available fuel? A reducing is made by choking the air supply, which produces soot, of course. Your main problem is a cosmetic one, so you might consider a cosmetic solution. Find a way to darken the clay so the sooting would not be so obvious? Or find a way to prevent the sooting... Have you asked this question on any pottery lists? > By contrast the use of the very common red clays should make > earthenware purification candles a sustainable option for the kind of > appropriate technology that is suitable for village pottery > production. Excellent project. Novel methods. I wish you well. Mike D. [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
RE: CS>Fwd: [healthfraud] Computer Viruses
Yes, it is true that if you visit a hostile site that you can have a virus/trojan uploaded to your system using vbscripting or java. There are various patches available from MS. Also you can re-name wscript.exe to wscript.old in your windows dir or winnt\system32 dir for win2k\NT users. This may make some websites un-usable though. It will prevent most email viruses and some web spread viruses. Turning of java in your browser will stop most of the others. I also highly recommend Kaspersky anti-virus available from www.kaspersky.com. It is smaller and faster than most scanners and does not conflict with other programs like Norton and McAfee do, nor have I ever seen it false, as I have seen most others do. Particularly McAfee. qc -Original Message- From: rogalt...@aol.com [mailto:rogalt...@aol.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2001 4:01 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Cc: Rosa Altman Subject: CS>Fwd: [healthfraud] Computer Viruses List: Anyone know if this is true? Roger In a message dated 10/3/2001 3:59:13 PM Eastern Daylight Time, mike...@aol.com writes: Subj:[healthfraud] Computer Viruses Date:10/3/2001 3:59:13 PM Eastern Daylight Time From:mike...@aol.com To:truelot...@hotmail.com, jaly...@myexcel.com, healthfr...@lists.quackwatch.com Hello List, My company has been plagued by computer viruses for four weeks now. Some computer pros came in today to fix it. They said you can now get a virus by simply browsing the Internet. Mcihael
RE: CS>Calling for FAQs Particularly from Newbies
Hi Roger, I would like to see a simple and repeatable method of generating high quality clear CS using 3 nines or an inexpensive radio shack type wall supply included in the FAQ, or as a link to a file from the FAQ. This should use room temp distilled water with no additives for repeatability, and a bubble rock since it is easier to set up than mechanical stirring. I would be more than happy to donate web space for this if needed. I also think the phone line generator should be included due to it's great simplicity. Anyone can make one in minutes and it is the ultimate in portable generators. It doesn't even require a soldering iron to make and the whole kit can easily fit in a ziplock for travel. It would be a great idea to get people on the right track on making their own and as was mentioned, it would bring people in to the group, which can only be a good thing. At least if we refrain from letting the topic get to far a field on the CS list, which was also correctly mentioned. Maintaining our public image is obviously quite important. qc -Original Message- From: rogalt...@aol.com [mailto:rogalt...@aol.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2001 8:31 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CS>Calling for FAQs Particularly from Newbies List: I'm starting to get some FAQ suggestions. Please give me yours. Here is where the newbies are KING. Register the FAQ suggestions now because it's going to be hard to get sympathy later if you procrastinate now. This is YOUR opportunity!! Roger
RE: CS>Rising to the Challenge?
As much as I'd like to believe that theory, the FDA was formed due to public outcry because a company released a new cough syrup (late 1920s) with an ethylene glycol base. After several hundred people died what I imagine was a fairly horrible death, congress formed the FDA. Since then the pharms have learned to very effectively manipulate the system for their own ends. I remember reading somewhere that CS was approved in '36, as a proprietary solution. I'll look it up again and let you know. qc -Original Message- From: Marshall Dudley [mailto:mdud...@execonn.com] Sent: Friday, September 28, 2001 10:11 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CS>Rising to the Challenge? No, the FDA was formed around that time, to stamp out remidies that worked but did not make the pharms any money. Marshall Quietcove wrote: Wasn't CS FDA approved in 1936 Roger?qc -Original Message- From: rogalt...@aol.com [mailto:rogalt...@aol.com] Sent: Friday, September 28, 2001 9:24 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CS>Rising to the Challenge? In a message dated 9/28/2001 9:00:19 AM Eastern Daylight Time, apea...@midcoast.com writes: Roger -- according to my friend, this was the most UNmaverick doc she's ever been to (she's 67.) She was astonished by his apparent switch.Of course that's subjective, but doesn't change the circumstances. Judy Down Maine Judy: Well, action speaks louder than words. I had a CS discussion with a physician end when he told me that would never even consider using any medication that was not approved by the FDA. Roger
RE: CS>Rising to the Challenge?
Wasn't CS FDA approved in 1936 Roger? qc -Original Message- From: rogalt...@aol.com [mailto:rogalt...@aol.com] Sent: Friday, September 28, 2001 9:24 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CS>Rising to the Challenge? In a message dated 9/28/2001 9:00:19 AM Eastern Daylight Time, apea...@midcoast.com writes: Roger -- according to my friend, this was the most UNmaverick doc she's ever been to (she's 67.) She was astonished by his apparent switch.Of course that's subjective, but doesn't change the circumstances. Judy Down Maine Judy: Well, action speaks louder than words. I had a CS discussion with a physician end when he told me that would never even consider using any medication that was not approved by the FDA. Roger
RE: CS>Sore throat
Zinc lozenges work very well for sore throat. Maybe better than CS in this case because it coats the throat as you suck on them. QC -Original Message- From: top...@southcom.com.au [mailto:top...@southcom.com.au] Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2001 5:58 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CS>Sore throat Hi all, I have had an extremely sore throat for two weeks now. I have been taking around 30 oz. of CS with MSM (about 4 tbl spns) per day with no noticible improvement. I usually only take 3 tbl spns CS with 1/2 tsp MSM as a maintenance thingy. Just wondering if there is some new strain of flu virus getting around that may be resistent to CS? By the by, there have been deaths from menningicoccal here. (Tasmania) Regards, Tony Cahill -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
RE: CS>Silver against Viruses?
Well that just makes me feel all warm an fuzzy inside... Glad we have CS! qc -Original Message- From: Marshall Dudley [mailto:mdud...@execonn.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2001 12:33 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CS>Silver against Viruses? I am not aware of it being tested against smallpox, but as I am unaware of it not working against any virus, I would be very surprised if it didn't. I read a report some time ago that the fellow that was arrested a couple of years ago for purchasing some anthrax cultures had bought it to test with CS. If I remember right, no one cared about his purchasing the anthrax until he made it known that CS was very effective against it, at which time he was arrested and initially charged with terrorism to completely discredit him. The charges were later dropped after the damage was done and he had been silenced. Marshall duval...@aol.com wrote: > CS will it work against Anthrax, and smallpox? -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
RE: CS>Pyramid etc. South Florida
Thanks Chris, I ordered a copy this afternoon. qc -Original Message- From: chris.osborne [mailto:chris.osbo...@virgin.net] Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2001 8:12 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CS>Pyramid etc. South Florida Quietecove. I no longer have the link but in the 1930's I think it was a Canadian came up with a way of Zeroing gravity the "powers that be " as I understand it claimed it was too expensive and shelved it. I did send this link earlier on this subject the book is very interesting and goes into Zero gravity.and other related things Regards Chris http://www.hiddenmysteries.com/redir/index0.html -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
RE: CS>Pyramid etc. South Florida
I replied to the off-topic list so that Mike won't feel compelled to "rein is in". Nice to know you speak so highly of us all, when we aren't listening Mike. :-) qc -Original Message- From: panamabob [mailto:panama...@email.msn.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2001 10:40 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CS>Pyramid etc. South Florida Perhaps if the fact can be examined some of the mystery will desolve itself. Lets look at the facts we do know. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
RE: CS>Pyramid etc. South Florida
The Panama canal is certainly an amazing feat of engineering. It required thousands of men and millions of man hours. The technology was fully understood, even if the scale was a bit daunting, as it had never been tried before. The grand gallery in the great pyramid is equally as impressive. 4th dimensional mysterio energy forces? Hmmm, well ok... I was thinking more along the lines of physics that are yet to be fully understood, like gravity. Did the ancients know things that we don't? They managed to move and set stone blocks so large that we still don't have the technology to move them. Block and tackle, I've understood the principal since I was 6 years old. My grandfather was a physicist who had a theory that you could teach anything to a child if he was taught early enough. Even with 4000 lbs of pull you are still far short of the requirement to raise an 80,000 lb piece of stone. Not to mention the fact that the equipment needed to raise such a piece of stone could hardly be missed by curious neighbors. Nor would it be possible for a single person to set up a tripod of the size and strength needed, raise the stone, and take it all down in the period of one night, in the dark. Certainly a lot of questions. Is it probable that a single 100 lb man could raise a 40 ton stone without anyone observing the task? Ed did it four times, twice each in two locations with no one the wiser. Did he have access to some technology that we are unaware of? Physics has been trying figure out the relationship between magnetism and gravity for years. Ed talks about "neutral magnets", which is very close to a description of scalar technology. Could a man with a 4th grade education figure out a technology that the best minds in physics had missed for years? Now that would be ironic wouldn't it? qc -Original Message- From: panamabob [mailto:panama...@email.msn.com] Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2001 10:58 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CS>Pyramid etc. South Florida Most interesting how the stories grow and how narrators can make what is essentially common place seem astounding. The Panama Canal, a pretty amazing amount of engineering, become almost unbelievable when you consider that there were no bulldozer, front end loaders or any other modern day common earth moving equipment. The gates of the locks, weighing 750 TONS each, are so perfectly balanced that one man can move them. This is technology (or lack of technology) of the 1906 era. Water is moved from a chamber 1000 ft long, 110 ft wide and 60 ft deep to another in 3 minutes with NO pumps of any kind. The earth moved from one segment of the diggings could build 10 Cheop pyramids. All this was done in about 4-5 years of actual work. You may consider again what block and tackles can do. Properly laid out, a pulley system could easily lift 4000 lbs with the wieght of a 100 lbs man. Attaching one end of the rope to a standard divides the wieght in 1/2 from the start. Each "loop" reduces again by 1/2. So first loop is down to 2000 lbs, second to 1000, third to 500, fourth to 250, fifth to 125, and sixth to under 70 lbs. He may very well have had some magical system., (or not) but obviously it's gone either way so we may just as well look at what systems ARE probable. This seems more probable than 4th dimension mysterio energy forces...don't you think? (Although its more fun to think of UFO magic wands etc.:-) -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
RE: CS>Pyramid etc. South Florida
Exactly. Ed made the driver leave for the day while he loaded the truck. One day the driver came back after half an hour for something he had forgotten and found the truck half loaded! This is simply not possible using a block and tackle and only one man. Even with a crew and a crane it would be something to see, getting the job done in that amount of time. The only report of anyone seeing him work are the two kids who said that he laid his hands on the rock and floated them in air. A story that might have some basis in fact. It sounds very similar to stories of vimana in the bhaghavad gita. Ed was certainly interested in magnetism, possibly the answer lies in that direction. There have been rumors of others using magnetism to overcome gravity and even time. I guess we'll have to wait for the grand unified theory for the final answer on that though, if it ever becomes public knowledge. An interesting man and an interesting place. I read one of his pamphlets on magnetism once. English was not his first language, and he is not easy to read or understand, and maybe he was not entirely sane. But he did have some very unusual ideas about magnets and particle physics and electricity and gravity. Here is an example http://www.labyrinthina.com/ed.htm qc -Original Message- From: Harsha Godavari [mailto:h.godav...@home.com] Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2001 7:50 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CS>Pyramid etc. South Florida There was TV show about this a few years backand according to narrator, "there are no machines which can cut the rock so precisely (from the coral reefs) nor that many machines to lift that weight. Shaping and balancing them so well the even a child can easily swing (the door). Apparently whenever a neighbour tried to spy on him, he would stop whatever he was doing and wait. I have not read any reports of anyone watching him actually handling the rock. BTW he moved the whole building to the current location from a more coastal area. He dismantled it and loaded on to a truck after making the driver look the other way. The driver never saw how those huge blocks got up on his truck! Regards Harsha Godavari Quietcove wrote: > I believe that a single 100lb man could not load most of a flatbed semi > with 2 ton blocks in a half an hour, even using a fork lift, let > alone a block and tackle. A feat this guy accomplished according > to the driver. (snip) -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
RE: CS>Pyramid etc. South Florida
I believe that a single 100lb man could not load most of a flatbed semi with 2 ton blocks in a half an hour, even using a fork lift, let alone a block and tackle. A feat this guy accomplished according to the driver. Let alone moving and righting 35 and 40 ton pieces by himself He is described as only having a simple block and tackle. Even if it were 4 pulleys, the numbers just don't add up. How long a lever would you need to move 40 ton? I am not at all convinced that it could be accomplished with just one man and simple tools using conventional technology. I think the photo may have been a put up job to maintain his privacy. There must have been considerable talk and curiosity at the time. qc -Original Message- From: panamabob [mailto:panama...@email.msn.com] Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2001 2:27 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CS>Pyramid etc. South Florida At one time I was impressed by the build up of this undertaking, and heard many "hints" that he knew some mystical power in creating the work. But thanks to the website you included I can once again be at peace. In one of the photos it shows him using basic block and tackle, i.e. pulleys, to lift a building unit. With that and the "mysterious" claim of learning the laws of leverage I feel there is no magic here. Patience yes, as well as determination, but no super natural powers other than basic "machines". Perhaps we have forgotten these basic tools in todays society of infernal combustion and electricity motors, and they may appear amazing to innocent eyes, but once again, no real lost knowledge. Thanks for helping clear up a burr in my saddle. bob SLF - Original Message - From: "Harsha Godavari" To: Sent: Monday, September 24, 2001 11:11 PM Subject: Re: CS>Pyramid etc. South Florida > Bob: > > If you are talking about Coral Castle, here are a couple of URLs to give > your story and a little map to get there :-) > > Regards > Harsha Godavari > > http://www.coralcastle.com/home.asp > http://www.coralcastle.com/directions.asp > > > Marshall Dudley wrote: > > > -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Flags across America
I have seen a great number of american flags today in my brief travels. America IS United in this! I would like to see the United States adopt the "Don't Tread On Me" as the interim flag of the nation until these people are brought to justice, or justice is brought to them. It is time to send a clear message to the world. quietcove - Original Message - From: Christiane Osowiecki To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 3:01 PM Subject: CS>Flags across America > To show those terrorists that we Americans stick > together, FRIDAY SEPTEMBER > 14th is "Flags Across America." All Americans are > asked to display the > American flag either in their homes or cars. Let's > keep the meaning of > UNITED in "United States". Pass this onto as many > people as you know. > > THANK YOU.
Re: CS>Help with level 4 glioblastoma
Very high doses of vitamin A in the form of Beta Carotene has been helpful in some forms of cancer. You want to use enough to virtually turn the patient a rather odd orangey-yellow and maintain that skin color. Should you decide to do this, DO NOT use Vitamin A, which would be extremely toxic at these high concentrations. Vitamin A is fat soluable. Beta Carotene is water soluable and is not toxic even at extremely high doses. The skin color returns to normal quickly after stopping the supplement. I would consider using Beta Carotene, Vitamin B-17 and replacing all fluids with CS if I found myself with glioblastoma. I would also use essiac tea. If you decide to use essiac make sure that you make your own, as almost none of the commercial varieties use the correct herbs. Hint, Turkish Rhubarb could not be one of the ingredients in the original formula. Also there are two kinds of Burdock and several varieties of Sheep Sorrel. I believe the correct ones are listed. I think Slippery Elm bark is correct rather than the Marshmallow. If you buy a commercial blend check the ingredients closely for the correct latin names. The common name is often deceiving. Essiac Formula 61/2 cups Burdock, dried root 1 lb. Sheep Sorrel, dried herb 1 oz. Indian Rhubarb root 4 oz. Marshmallow, dried root or 4 oz. dried Slippery Elm inner bark. 1/5 of this mixture is simmered for 15 minutes in 3 cups of water to make a strong decoction. Strain and take 1 cupful at bedtime on a empty stomach. correct- Burdock Root (arctium lappa) Sheep Sorrel (rumex acetosella) Slippery Elm Bark (ulmus fulva) Indian Rhubarb Root (rheum officinale) I lost a friend to glioblastoma and a son to neuroblastoma. I wish I had known then what I know now... quietcove -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Mineral deficiencies from CS
I had read about the selenium-sulpher depletion but
was not terribly concerned since I already take selenium
daily.
If you are using a selenium supplement you are probably fine.
Excessive amounts of selenium can be toxic so I doubt I
would increase over say 100mcg a day.
quietcove
- Original Message -
From: Langsley Russell
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2001 2:46 PM
Subject: CS>Mineral deficiencies from CS
Hi everybody, and thanks to those who responded to my questions about
selenium and sulfur deficiencies caused by CS.
for anyone who is interested in finding out more about Mark Metcalf, the
author whose book I quoted, he has a website called, About Silver Medicine, at
http://aboutsilvermedicine.com/ He does seem to be truly pro CS.
I find it very interesting that no one on this list has any personal
knowledge of, or clinical evidence to either support or refute the findings
published in Mr.. Metcalf's book. That is, that silver bonds with selenium and
sulfur causing a deficiency in people who ingest CS on a regular basis. Is it
just because nobody has ever bothered to check? Or is it that the effect is so
slight as to not be of any importance? On the surface it would seem to me to be
fairly important information, particularly in light of the fact that most of
our diet's are already lacking in selenium.
I hope I'm not sounding argumentative, but these are issues of concern to me
and it would seem that they are worth at least considering.
We currently use a selenium supplement. I am wondering. Should we increase
that supplement while taking CS? Should we start taking MSM as the author
suggests? Am I concerned about nothing?
TIA
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Re: CS>The Following from Quackwatch May be of Interest
Sounds like a darn good start! quietcove - Original Message - From: James Osbourne, Holmes To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2001 4:10 PM Subject: RE: CS>The Following from Quackwatch May be of Interest I can't remember the details, but there was a political upheaval of some sort in Amsterdam, perhaps in the 1500s. To start things off, they hung all of the lawyers. James-Osbourne: Holmes -Original Message- From: Tai-Pan [mailto:l...@fbtc.net] Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2001 7:54 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CS>The Following from Quackwatch May be of Interest Hi James and all, Thats a good one James. So lets "abolish" controlling people. Abolish means to: do away with wholly, to destroy completely, annihilate, to make nonexistent. So lets all go out and murder those who would control us, burn the bodies and grind the bones to dust. Get all the politicians, councilmen, busybodies at the church, cops, preachers, etc. I'm all for it. When do we start!. Should we include those that tell us how to make CS, and what to eat, and what to wear, and what meds are ok to take (in their view) and those who put up traffic signs , and what vaccines to get , etc, on and on.?? :-) So much for todays humor, back to the real world. James won't help me terminate anyone. Love you man, but you can't have my Bud ! Bless you, Bob Lee "James Osbourne, Holmes" wrote: People who think they have the right to control the way others live their lives should simply be abolished. James-Osbourne: Holmes -Original Message- From: M. G. Devour [mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com] Sent: Monday, August 20, 2001 7:24 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CS>The Following from Quackwatch May be of Interest > some of the practices like homeopathy, supplements, herbology, > naturopathy and chiropractic should be simply abolished. ... Dr Chot Sure can tell where Dr. Chot is coming from, can we not? I don't know about the rest of them, but supplements and chiropractic have both been of help to me, along with several other "alternative care" things. Hmmmpf. Mike D. -- oozing on the muggy shore of the gulf coast l...@fbtc.net -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Electricity/ current, ma., etc.
And of course it all needs to be computer controlled. A 2+ horse power Binford 6400 air injected swimming pool pump should work great for stirring!;-) quietcove - Original Message - From: "Dean T. Miller" To: Sent: Sunday, August 19, 2001 12:56 AM Subject: Re: CS>Electricity/ current, ma., etc. > Hi Wayne, > > On Sat, 18 Aug 2001 19:48:27 -0500, Wayne Fugitt > wrote: > > >So. I used timers, valves, leds, and push buttons and built a > >coffee pot filler. > > Great!! > > > Yes, it is all I can do to keep from making a more sophisticated CS > >maker with digital meters, regulated voltage for the digital meter, > >indicators for current, different settings for batch time, ect. > > > > Believe me, most people don't have the time, inclination, and know how > >to do all this. > > If you make one, make it a flow-through design, where you put a gallon > of distilled water at the input and get out CS at varying flow rates > (a high-capacity version could be hooked to a large scale distiller > for, lets say, farm or veterinary use where you might need several > gallons/hour). A fixed 5 ppm would be okay (but probably too simple, > so one that varies from 1 ppm for foliage to 15 ppm for making an > ointment would be nice :) > > -- Dean -- from (almost) Des Moines -- KB0ZDF > > > -- > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: > silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Electricity/ current, ma., etc.
Hi Elanor, Using good quality distilled water and 3x 9volt it will start at approx. .2 to .4ma. using a 2 1/4" spacing on 14ga. wire. Stop when you reach 1.8ma. Mechanical stirring or a bubbler is a darn good idea. That should be about 10ppm and crystal clear. If you think it is too strong try stopping at 1.35ma.or about 5ppm. A digital meter is a real plus by the way. Have fun! quietcove - Original Message - From: "kukurippa _" To: Sent: Saturday, August 18, 2001 7:29 PM Subject: CS>Electricity/ current, ma., etc. > > > Thanks, Harold. That's a beginning ;-) So, just for starters, what would > the ma or current be coming off a pack of 3 9V batteries using let's say 14# > wire? Or does it depend also on the the changing ppm forming in the water? > > simple explanations for a simple mind. > > thanks, > Eleanor > > >A simple way to understand Electricity/current,ma.,etc., is to imagine > >electricity as water in your water pipes;the water pressure is Voltage,the > >current is volume of water coming thru in a given time,ie, > >gallons,quarts,pints,cups,drops,etc.The size of the pipe,ie > >1/2",3/4",1",etc.in diameter relates to wire size,ie # 14,# 12,# 10,etc. 1 > >ma is a milli-ampere of current. > >Harold > > > _ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp > > > -- > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: > silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>current control circuit
- Original Message - From: "Ode Coyote" To: Sent: Friday, August 17, 2001 11:51 AM Subject: Re: CS>current control circuit > ### Might be a good idea to differentiate between regulating and > limiting. They're not quite the same thing. ***You are quite right, I should have said current regulator. > > At 01:02 PM 8/15/01 -0400, you wrote: > >A good current limiter can be made with a LM-317 > >voltage regulator and a resistor. Here is a link to the datasheet > >including some interesting schematics. > > > >http://www.national.com/ds/LM/LM117.pdf > > > >I think you will find that if you are using good > >quality distilled water that the current is self limiting. > ## But not self regulating. It's being controlled changeably by the > increasing conductivity of the CS. > > >I turn my generator off when the current reaches 2.5ma > ##That is a manual current "upper limit" verses the current staying at a > set value. > ***Thats true of course. I have an adjustable current regulator on my generator at the moment but I'm using it virtually unregulated. I find that if I use too little current that too much silver plates out to the cathode. Possibly from the increased production time due to the reduced voltage, allowing more silver to come in contact with the cathode? I would think it might be less of a problem if you were not using constant agitation though. I find that the cathode stays much cleaner using the ingots rather than wire, possibly due to decreased production time? > >which is the same as 15kohm or approximately > >10ppm. I am using a 37.5v computer grade power supply > >from an HP printer (low ripple). > > > >If you were using 27v you would want 1.8ma > >for the same final resistance. I use 2 1/4" spacing > >on 14ga . silver wire. The distilled water > >reads 1.2uS at the start and finishes at 11.0uS > >consistently. > ## Or, if you're controlling current at say 2 ma, you'd want to stop at > around 12 to 14 volts depending on what sort of PPM you want and electrode > spacing/wetted surface. I wouldn't use 2 ma unless I was also doing > constant mechanical stirring. ***I absolutely agree that mechanical stirring is important as the amperage/voltage being used goes up. I use either an air pump or a stirring motor. I am still not convinced as to which method is "best" though. Both seem to work well. > > >Most of the machines that shut themselves off use > >current regulation to get a voltage drop which is > >used to trigger the shut off point. > ### Absolutely. Voltage comparators don't work for a shut down if the > voltage doesn't change. However, current regulation or control will work to > control rate of ion production without a comparator. Current limiting > doesn't control ion production rate, it only stops it from exceeding a > maximum. Current control lets the voltage go high if conductivity is low > and voltage go low if conductivity is high. > Ken > > ***OK, here is where I get confused. I understand the relationship between the current regulator and comparator, so that isn't a problem. What I don't understand is the relationship between current, voltage and particle size. I have read in several places that higher voltage is important for reduced particle size. I've also read that increasing current can increase particle size. Then we also get in to the area of current vs surface area Somewhere in all of this there has to be a happy medium - efficiently generating the smallest possible particles... Of course I have to agree with "Ole Bob" when he says that all CS is good! quietcove > > > >- Original Message - > >From: > >To: > >Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2001 12:12 PM > >Subject: Re: CS>current control circuit > > > > > >> Ken, > >> > >> Would you send me a schematic of your current control circuit? > >> > >> John > >> > >> > >> -- > >> The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > >> > >> To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: > >> silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > >> with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > >> > >> To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > >> Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > >> List maintainer: Mike Devour > > > >
Re: CS>Re: Dr. Jon's CS process
- Original Message - From: "Robert L. Berger" To: Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2001 9:51 PM Subject: Re: CS>Re: Dr. Jon's CS process > Hi there Quietcove, > > What you THINK makes better quality CS is for the "birds." I merely stated what I observed and was looking for opinions based on others experience, and hopefully testing. I know the topic has been discussed, but I can not find actual test results that have been published on the list. > > Whether its .999 or .9 the end result is the same. I never said otherwise. > > If you want an answer as to particle size all you have to due is send a sample > to Stephen Quinto and he will do a T.E.M. for only $75.00. That's cheap for the > information that you will get. > > Hanna meters are only good for testing water until you have had several AA or > spectrophotometer ransomed on your process. > > Knowledge is never cheap. All very true. But it is also true that it is often easier to ask a question than to re-invent the wheel. I kind of thought that that is what the list is about. > > I am not really grumpy, it's that I get upset when the information is available > and people wont use it or look for it. If you mean by this that I should have searched the archives, what makes you think that I didn't? What I found was a great deal of speculation on the subject, but no actual figures that were a result of testing, which is what I was looking for. > > "Ole Bob" > > > > > > -- > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: > silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Re: Dr. Jon's CS process
Evening All, I am not sure if using coins or ingots is more economical or not. I made my first batch today using 1 ounce ingots, and I think the quality is better than using wire. My mother thought so too. Both varieties show very little tyndal effect and read about the same on the hannah meter, around 12uS Has anybody tested to see if there is a difference in particle size when using either wire or rounds? tia. quietcove - Original Message - From: "Wayne Fugitt" To: Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2001 4:46 PM Subject: Re: CS>Re: Dr. Jon's CS process > Evening Eleanor, > > I'm interested in using Canadian silver coins instead of wire, because I > think it's more cost effective. If I use 3 x 9V batteries would there be > enough power (current, whatever) if I use the coins rather than 14 gauge wire? > > I wonder if it really is more cost effective. If you use up your > coins, likely 500 gallons, will that be more economical? > > I think the best reason to use the coins is, "because you have them" and > do not have the silver wire. > > The silver wire is relatively economical, if you purchase 50 feet at one > time. Of course that is a "virtual lifetime" supply unless you convince > all your friends to use CS and take some wire off your hands. > > I have given away lots of my 50 feet and I think I still have a lifetime > supply left, unless the CS makes me live to about 500. > > Have the engineers and mathematicians on the list calculated how many > gallons that two pieces of wire, 8 inches long will make? One would > have to specify a ppm in order to do the calculation. > > Wayne > > > -- > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: > silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>current control circuit
A good current limiter can be made with a LM-317 voltage regulator and a resistor. Here is a link to the datasheet including some interesting schematics. http://www.national.com/ds/LM/LM117.pdf I think you will find that if you are using good quality distilled water that the current is self limiting. I turn my generator off when the current reaches 2.5ma which is the same as 15kohm or approximately 10ppm. I am using a 37.5v computer grade power supply from an HP printer (low ripple). If you were using 27v you would want 1.8ma for the same final resistance. I use 2 1/4" spacing on 14ga . silver wire. The distilled water reads 1.2uS at the start and finishes at 11.0uS consistently. Most of the machines that shut themselves off use current regulation to get a voltage drop which is used to trigger the shut off point. quietcove - Original Message - From: To: Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2001 12:12 PM Subject: Re: CS>current control circuit > Ken, > > Would you send me a schematic of your current control circuit? > > John > > > -- > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: > silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>MRSA - Help -long
Hi Gladys, I think you might find the silverpuppy generator the easiest to use at the best price. It's about the only one in a lower price range that will shut itself off and does not need batteries. And it is an all in one unit, so it is about as easy as you can get. It is really easier than making almost any recipe in the kitchen I think. Also, you can not get a shock from this type of silver generator, so don't worry about that at all. Hope that helps. quietcove - Original Message - From: "Gladys Williams" To: Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2001 10:43 AM Subject: Re: CS>MRSA - Help -long > Dear Quietcove: > > No I am not making my own CS yet. I have been reading the List daily > trying to learn as much as possible. I don't have a lot of money, so > when I > make a decision that's it. I want to get a reasonably priced machine. > I'm > not electrical or technical so the electrode in the jar trick won't work > for me. > I need a cute little machine I can sit on the table add all the > ingredients and come > back in a few hours and it's done. I've been to Brents Colloidal, > Silverpuppy, > and a few others. I think I'm getting a bit confused with all the brands > and > features. Gladys > > n Thu, 9 Aug 2001 00:27:51 -0400 "Quietcove" > writes: > > Hi Gladys, > > > > I am sure glad that you survived > > your bout with cellulitis! It must have been awful. > > I have read of several other cases of quick recoverys > > from cellulitis using a combination of CS and antibiotics > > so there is a lot of hope here for both of us I think. It > > was amazing how hast I recovered from my last bout. > > > > I do hope you never have to go through that kind of > > torture and pain again. Are you making your own CS? > > > > quietcove > > - Original Message - > > From: "Gladys Williams" > > To: > > Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2001 9:02 PM > > Subject: Re: CS>MRSA - Help -long > > > > > > > Dear Quietcove, > > > > > > I also have lymphedema and had cellulitis for the fitst time a few > > > > > months ago. I was on IV antibiotics then oral antibiotics for > > almost > > > 3 months. I joined the CS List in hopes of preventing another > > long > > > cellutis bout.Gladys > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal > > silver. > > > > To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message > > to: > > silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- > > silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > > with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > > > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > > Silver-list archive: > > http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > > List maintainer: Mike Devour > > > >
Re: CS>MRSA - Help -long
Hi Gladys, I am sure glad that you survived your bout with cellulitis! It must have been awful. I have read of several other cases of quick recoverys from cellulitis using a combination of CS and antibiotics so there is a lot of hope here for both of us I think. It was amazing how hast I recovered from my last bout. I do hope you never have to go through that kind of torture and pain again. Are you making your own CS? quietcove - Original Message - From: "Gladys Williams" To: Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2001 9:02 PM Subject: Re: CS>MRSA - Help -long > Dear Quietcove, > > I also have lymphedema and had cellulitis for the fitst time a few > months ago. I was on IV antibiotics then oral antibiotics for almost > 3 months. I joined the CS List in hopes of preventing another long > cellutis bout.Gladys > -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>MRSA - Help
oops wrong button! - Original Message - From: "Quietcove" To: Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2001 3:05 PM Subject: Re: CS>MRSA - Help > > - Original Message - > From: "kukurippa _" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2001 2:34 PM > Subject: RE: CS>MRSA - Help > > > > > > Hi Judy, > > > > I never heard of yellow staph, so I can't comment. Twice, I was told that > I > > had staph. The first I heard of it was after a stool analysis... I think > I > > picked up the bacteria from contaminated food while in India (my health > has > > been in a downward spiral ever since that trip. The second time was when > I > > was in the hospital... I was told I was MRSA+ and promptly put into a > > private room and all who visited had to wear mask, gloves, and gown. > > > > I still have this question on my mind about whether using CS in an enema > is > > advisable or not. I understand that the good bacteria might get wiped > out, > > but that could be replaced with a pro-biotic implant I would think. > > > > Any thoughts welcome. > > > > thanks, > > Eleanor > > > > >From: "JudytheK" > > > > >Are we using a new name for yellow staph so we can forget this is an > > >iatrogenic illness? > > >Why would "MRSA" be more resistent to CS than any other staph? Any > > >"protocol" that worked up slowly in amount so as to avoid Herkheimer's > > >would > > >make sense to me. I'm an amateur and a believer since giving CS for > > >topical > > >use to a friend who had an 11 month infection on a surgery incision that > > >the > > >doctor medicated and "just couldn't understand" why she didn't heal. It > was > > >gone in 3 days. > > > > > > > >-Original Message-->From: kukurippa _ > > >[mailto:kukuri...@hotmail.com] > > > > >I also have MRSA and would like to know if there is a specific protocol. > > >The MRSA is the reason I'm inquiring about methods of getting CS to the > > >intestines (my earlier post), because it was found in a stool sample. > > > > > >thanks > > > > > > _ > > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp > > > > > > -- > > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > > > To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: > > silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > > with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > > > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > > Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > > List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>MRSA - Help
- Original Message - From: "kukurippa _" To: Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2001 2:34 PM Subject: RE: CS>MRSA - Help > > Hi Judy, > > I never heard of yellow staph, so I can't comment. Twice, I was told that I > had staph. The first I heard of it was after a stool analysis... I think I > picked up the bacteria from contaminated food while in India (my health has > been in a downward spiral ever since that trip. The second time was when I > was in the hospital... I was told I was MRSA+ and promptly put into a > private room and all who visited had to wear mask, gloves, and gown. > > I still have this question on my mind about whether using CS in an enema is > advisable or not. I understand that the good bacteria might get wiped out, > but that could be replaced with a pro-biotic implant I would think. > > Any thoughts welcome. > > thanks, > Eleanor > > >From: "JudytheK" > > >Are we using a new name for yellow staph so we can forget this is an > >iatrogenic illness? > >Why would "MRSA" be more resistent to CS than any other staph? Any > >"protocol" that worked up slowly in amount so as to avoid Herkheimer's > >would > >make sense to me. I'm an amateur and a believer since giving CS for > >topical > >use to a friend who had an 11 month infection on a surgery incision that > >the > >doctor medicated and "just couldn't understand" why she didn't heal. It was > >gone in 3 days. > > > > >-Original Message-->From: kukurippa _ > >[mailto:kukuri...@hotmail.com] > > >I also have MRSA and would like to know if there is a specific protocol. > >The MRSA is the reason I'm inquiring about methods of getting CS to the > >intestines (my earlier post), because it was found in a stool sample. > > > >thanks > > > _ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp > > > -- > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: > silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>MRSA - Help -long
Hi Jerome, I have had chronic lymphedema for 30 years. This leaves me particularly prone to cellulitis, which is an infection of the spaces between the cells in my legs. It can be very difficult to treat because of the location and the abundance of protien rich lymph fluids surrounding the cells. A little over a month ago I came down with another case of it. I began getting feverish, and headed right for the hospital, for antibiotics. When I got home I took the antibiotics and started making up some CS. I was getting worse at that point and considered going back to the hospital for IV antibiotics. When the CS was ready I took a full cup of approx.10ppm. Within a half hour the fever broke. I continued taking a cup 3 times a day. Within 2 days I was back to normal! With one case of cellulitis I was in the hospital for 10 days on IV antibiotics followed by 12 WEEKS of oral antibiotics. I believe that CS is the best antibiotic/germicide on the planet. As for a protocol, for myself I think 3 to 4 times daily (or more) is probably the most effective, as with most antibiotics. For myself, I would work up slowly to an effective dose. I think I may have been a little reckless starting at that high a dose, but I was feeling really rotten at the time... Please understand that I am not a health care proffesional and am NOT giving medical advice. I am only relating my personal opinions and observations. I also happen to be related to the other person on the list who discussed yellow staff, and saw that work in vivo. :-) As you probably know, you don't want to take too much water right after taking CS as it might make it into the intestines and kill the intestinal flora. hth quietcove - Original Message - From: "Jerry Karl" To: Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2001 11:49 PM Subject: CS>MRSA - Help > Methicillin Resistant Staphylococcus Aureus > I have a friend whose daughter is diagnosed with this. > She is becoming sicker and sicker. I did a search of the > archives and a few messages mentioned MRSA about a > year ago - but nothing was said about a protocol for > treating it with Colloidal Silver. > Can someone help so I can pass on some encouraging > information to my friend ??? > I have my own CS maker - A SilverGen CS Generator - that > makes consistent 8 to 9 PPM CS (tested with a Hanna - PWT > tester). So I can make all the CS she needs. > CS will kill it won't it ? ? ? > Thanks in advance, > Jerome Karl > > > -- > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: > silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>charge
Or AG+ ions? quietcove - Original Message - From: rogalt...@aol.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2001 7:44 AM Subject: Re: CS>charge In a message dated 8/8/2001 7:27:41 AM Eastern Daylight Time, i...@win.co.nz writes: Damian, Keep in mind, that while uncharged metallic colloid particles acquire a negative charge (due to absorbed OH- ions) ionic silver, which may be a large percentage of what you produce by electrolysis, are positively charged. Ivan. Ivan: If colloidal silver particles are neutral to start with, why do they attract OH- ions to acquire a negative charge? Wouldn't they be just as likely to attract H+ ions to acquire a positive charge? Roger
Re: CS>RE: Battery Charger
So James, Are you saying that you have the first colloidal silver generator based on scalar technology, or just having a chuckle? Hmm? heheh quietcove - Original Message - From: "James Osbourne, Holmes" To: Sent: Sunday, August 05, 2001 5:00 AM Subject: RE: CS>RE: Battery Charger > The volts we use for OUR colloidal silver are different and special, and > produce a superior product. The technique is call "coherent potential > resonance integration". That is why our product costs more, but it is worth > the extra because it does everything. > > James-Osbourne: Holmes > > -Original Message- > From: Wayne Fugitt [mailto:wa...@fugitt.com] > Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 3:40 PM > To: silver-list@eskimo.com > Subject: RE: CS>RE: Battery Charger > > Evening Ed, > > >>There are 12 to 24 volt chargers and some have trickle charge or low amp > >charging as well as automatic cut off. Then I wouldn't have to use those > 3-9 > >volt batteries or worry if the batteries are getting too low. > > Most of us have learned by now that one can make CS with nearly > anything that resembles a voltage. > > Anything from a solar pond to an electric Eel or a small solar panel, > or. you name it. > > But, no matter how you cut it, you can't get much simpler or cheaper than > plugging two conductors into the phone jack and connecting them to your > electrodes. > > If you can. please tell me how? the cost can be near zero, except the > electrodes of course. > > By the way, I have been using my 9 volt batteries over a year, closer to > 1.5 years. I just got bored using that thing and wanted to do it > differently. Still a volt is a volt is a volt. > > Wayne > > > -- > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: > silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>RE: Battery Charger
Hi Wayne, To be honest I have not really explored the math behind ohm's law, since I find it much simpler to just plug the numbers into software. I was talking to a Black Jack dealer in Reno, who said during spring break he had to tell the college students to just flip their cards up and he would add them up for them, because they couldn't do it without a calculator. I guess technology makes us all lazy to some extent... quietcove - Original Message - From: "Wayne Fugitt" To: Sent: Sunday, August 05, 2001 9:51 AM Subject: Re: CS>RE: Battery Charger > Morning QuiteCove, > > At 08:22 AM 08/05/2001 -0400, you wrote: > >No matter how hard you try, you can't break OHM's > >law > >Why would anyone want to do so. I continue to be amazed that anyone > would make a formula that > has a 1 : 1 : 1 ratio? I was teaching this to my grandson this past > weekend. > >What else is the whole world is that simple, that uses 3 relative > complex phenomena? > > Have you ever seen or solved the "Rubek Cube" of ohms law? It looks > simple enough, and starts out simple, but gets a little complex, even with > the 1,1,1 rule. > >Wayne > > > > -- > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: > silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Can Matallic Silver dissolve in digestive fluids?
Has anybody checked particle size of a CS solution prior to ingestion, and then checked particle size returned in urine? I'd also be interested to know if the silver found in the urine is still ionic, or silver compounds, or particulate silver. Thanks. quietcove
Re: CS>RE: Battery Charger
No matter how hard you try, you can't break OHM's law quietcove - Original Message - From: "James Osbourne, Holmes" To: Sent: Sunday, August 05, 2001 5:00 AM Subject: RE: CS>RE: Battery Charger > The volts we use for OUR colloidal silver are different and special, and > produce a superior product. The technique is call "coherent potential > resonance integration". That is why our product costs more, but it is worth > the extra because it does everything. > > James-Osbourne: Holmes > > -Original Message- > From: Wayne Fugitt [mailto:wa...@fugitt.com] > Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 3:40 PM > To: silver-list@eskimo.com > Subject: RE: CS>RE: Battery Charger > > Evening Ed, > > >>There are 12 to 24 volt chargers and some have trickle charge or low amp > >charging as well as automatic cut off. Then I wouldn't have to use those > 3-9 > >volt batteries or worry if the batteries are getting too low. > > Most of us have learned by now that one can make CS with nearly > anything that resembles a voltage. > > Anything from a solar pond to an electric Eel or a small solar panel, > or. you name it. > > But, no matter how you cut it, you can't get much simpler or cheaper than > plugging two conductors into the phone jack and connecting them to your > electrodes. > > If you can. please tell me how? the cost can be near zero, except the > electrodes of course. > > By the way, I have been using my 9 volt batteries over a year, closer to > 1.5 years. I just got bored using that thing and wanted to do it > differently. Still a volt is a volt is a volt. > > Wayne > > > -- > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: > silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Can Matallic Silver dissolve in digestive fluids?
This sounds like an interesting experiment. My personal guess would be that stomach acids etc. would leech some silver, since I have seen that happen in ordinary tap water. quietcove - Original Message - From: rogalt...@aol.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, August 04, 2001 12:59 PM Subject: Re: CS>Can Matallic Silver dissolve in digestive fluids? In a message dated 8/4/2001 12:49:51 PM Eastern Daylight Time, fr...@strsoft.com writes: Roger wrote: > Frank: I've got a better idea. I'll swallow pre-weighed (to the nearest 0.05 > mg) pure silver shot. Fish it out of my feces. Clean it. And re-weigh. What > do you think? Roger That is not an unreasonable approach if you are willing to do it. I would suggest that you measure the shot to the nearest 10 micrograms for better measurement resolution. If you don't the equipment to do that, I have a lab balance that can do it. frank key Frank: Sounds like a plan. I'll send you several pieces of different size shot. Please weigh them individually since I may want to try it several times. Please give me your address. Thanks. Roger
Re: CS>RE: Battery Charger
What happens to the CS if you are forced into talking to your mother-in-law while making it?... I mean all those negative vibrations Can't be any good that comes from that...! quietcove - Original Message - From: "Ode Coyote" To: Sent: Friday, August 03, 2001 11:45 AM Subject: Re: CS>RE: Battery Charger > Yes, very McGiverish [even though McGivers creative solutions to some > problems won't work quite like as on TV] > Question: Can you still use the telephone while making CS? > > Ken > > At 07:28 PM 8/2/01 -0400, you wrote: > >Hi Wayne, > > > >I think your phone jack generator is one of the best ideas I have > >heard in a while. Very creative. > > > >quietcove > > > >- Original Message - > >From: "Wayne Fugitt" > >To: > >Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 5:40 PM > >Subject: RE: CS>RE: Battery Charger > > > > > >> Evening Ed, > >(snip) > >> But, no matter how you cut it, you can't get much simpler or cheaper than > >> plugging two conductors into the phone jack and connecting them to your > >> electrodes. > >(snip) > > > >> Wayne > >> > >> > >> -- > >> The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > >> > >> To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: > >> silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > >> with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > >> > >> To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > >> Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > >> List maintainer: Mike Devour > > > >
Re: CS>RE: Battery Charger
Hi Wayne, I think your phone jack generator is one of the best ideas I have heard in a while. Very creative. quietcove - Original Message - From: "Wayne Fugitt" To: Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 5:40 PM Subject: RE: CS>RE: Battery Charger > Evening Ed, (snip) > But, no matter how you cut it, you can't get much simpler or cheaper than > plugging two conductors into the phone jack and connecting them to your > electrodes. (snip) > Wayne > > > -- > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: > silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Incoming
I agree with you Marshall, the first thing I thought of was chemtrails. I haven't seen any localy since Bush took over though. quietcove - Original Message - From: "Marshall Dudley" To: Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2001 10:48 AM Subject: Re: CS>Incoming > I wonder if it is possible that they are simply picking up bacteria that is > being dumped into the lower tropopause by the ton with the chemtrails? > > Seems a more likly explaination than that they are coming from space. > > So we are to believe that 600 pounds of bacteria are falling to Earth each > day, but that none have ever fallen onto Mars and made it to the surface > according to official doctrine. Boy these people must think no one can > reason. > > Marshall > > jrowl...@nctimes.net wrote: > > > (Thanks to John Novak of Changing Planet) > > Summary: > > The first positive identification of extraterrestrial microbial life was > > > > reported on Sunday (July 29)...Professor Wickramasinghe of Cardiff > > University, > > one of Britain's leading research and teaching universities: "There is > > now > > unambiguous evidence for the presence of clumps of living cells in air > > samples from as high as 41 kilometers, well above the local tropopause > > (16 > > km), above which no air from lower down would normally be transported." > > The detection was made using a fluorescent cyanine dye which is only > > taken > > up by the membranes of living cells. The variation with height of the > > distribution of such cells indicates strongly that the clumps of > > bacterial > > cells are falling from space. The daily input of such biological > > material is > > provisionally estimated as about one third of a ton over the entire > > planet. > > http://unisci.com/stories/20013/0730011.htm > > jr > > > > -- > > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > > > To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: > > silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > > with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > > > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > > Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > > List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>thanks
Hi Wayne, I have done some VB programming, but still consider myself a beginner, so this is still probably beyond my skill level for programming. C would be a much better language for this anyway I think. If you could monitor the voltage and amperage of the circuit, which should not be difficult, and then correlate the results with tested CS solutions so that you know the exact concentrations generated, you could easily graph the PPM as it was being generated. You could also calculate the quality of your distilled water from the inititial start up current as well as programming a specific colloid concentration to shut off on. It sounds to me like a very worth while project. What do you think? quietcove - Original Message - From: Wayne Fugitt To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, July 30, 2001 10:27 AM Subject: Re: CS>thanks Morning Damian and QuiteCove, >>CS, you will find current regulation un-necessary. Put an ammeter in series and you will see what I mean. Yes, I do that from time to time to get the feel for each type of generator that I build. I shut my generator off at 15000 ohms. Even if you were to run it to say 5000ohms you would only have 3.8ma @ 19 volts. Well under the 10ma maximum recommended. I don't think I have run any current that high. Usually I cut off at 4 to 6 ma. If you come up with a good circuit to trip a relay at a specific milliamp current, and shut off the circuit, that would be most useful. I am close but haven't quite worked out the load side yet. I'd like to use discrete components, but I may have to break down and use a comparator... Seems this would be easy with a computer and the proper input output hardware and software. At my shop and office, I run a control system that logs temperature, sunlight, humidity, does event counting, has photobeams connected for datalogging, ect.I control the heat in my office with this system. I have spare analog and digital channels. I have thought of doing exactly what you are suggesting. My system is an RS-485 system, does communication on a single pair of wires. I have the modules all over the place and can in fact run and monitor the system from 3 different computers. Often I have two computers communicating with the system at the same time. Since this is a slow data system, ( 50 samples per second ) I seldom have a data packet collision. It appears that one analog input and one digital output would handle this. I also mastered parallel port control so. this could be done with out any fancy expensive hardware. All my software for this is written in C. My main program is over 10,000 lines and has run for 6 years without any problems. Wayne
Re: CS>thanks
Hi Damian, As long as you are using nothing but distilled water to make your CS, you will find current regulation un-necessary. Put an ammeter in series and you will see what I mean. I shut my generator off at 15000 ohms. Even if you were to run it to say 5000ohms you would only have 3.8ma @ 19 volts. Well under the 10ma maximum recommended. If you come up with a good circuit to trip a relay at a specific milliamp current, and shut off the circuit, that would be most useful. I am close but haven't quite worked out the load side yet. I'd like to use discrete components, but I may have to break down and use a comparator... quietcove - Original Message - From: Damian To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, July 30, 2001 3:24 AM Subject: CS>thanks Yeah. After following the groups chats and asking some questions and getting some replies from some kind people i am finally producing clear slightly amber coloured silver colloid. I have been reading around and some people have been using a aquarium bubbler to keep the sollution from aglomerating. I have adopted the method and works excellent. I am also using distilled water now instead of mineral and the solution is allot clearer and less sludge on the electrodes. My next step is to build a unit using a 19v powersupply costing about $18 whitch can run 3 colloid jugs. One each for silver, copper and zinc. I am also going to build a current regulator and maybe pulse it. Im unsure as to where it should be astable or bistable. Anyone with ideas. If i can figure it out i'll post the circuit. Also anyone got anything else that might be good in the circuit. Thanks again all Take care damian
Re: CS>Who Sells CS
Hi Mary Jo, You can make very good quality CS using just the 3 battery system. It takes just a little more watchfulness than the fancy high dollar machines that shut themselves off, but it is not hard to do. The fish tank bubbler is a good idea though. I think any aggitation will help make a smaller particle size. One of the more knowledgeable members on the group said that 5ppm CS had a resistance of about 20,000ohms and that 10ppm had a resistance of about 15,000ohms. You can get a cheap ohm meter at radio shack or a hardware store if you don't have one handy. Measure right accross the tops of the silver wires. Don't forget to shut off the power to the generator before you use the meter. It could blow out the ohm meter if you forget. This should get you in the ballpark anyway. I am sure you know that you should only distilled water. Keep the distance of the silver wires about 2 to 2 1/4" apart Using a 16oz jar it takes me about 2 to 2 1/2 hours to get to 15,000 ohms. I use nothing but distilled water and silver, no "starter" of any kind. I also use a small motor to constantly stir the solution, but the bubbler should do the same thing. The CS I make is crystal clear and has a slight Tyndal effect. It works very well for me. Best wishes for you and Canada. quietcove - Original Message - From: "DeadTiredCaregiver" To: Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2001 10:01 AM Subject: CS>Who Sells CS > How do you know how many ppm you have if you make your own CS? > > What about this "new" method of using a fish tank bubbler in the CS making > system. Does > that really improve the silver by making smaller particles? > > Where can I buy reliable CS? > > I have a rudimentary CS maker, one that uses three batteries. I have never > used it. How > long does it take to make CS? How much water should I use? > > Canada, the sick cat > Mary Jo > > > > -- > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: > silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>eliminating CS
Hi Sandy, I've read a little on it. I have also read a bit more on this list... But, there are certain things that are a bit too much to swallow... quietcove - Original Message - From: sandyal...@aol.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2001 2:13 PM Subject: Re: CS>eliminating CS QuietCove- Have you read about urine therapy? I read an article calles "Your Own Best Medicine" . . . very interesting. Sandy
Re: CS>eliminating CS
Hi Ken, It is my understanding (correct me if I am wrong folks) that most CS elimination is via urine. CS does not seem to kill off the intestinal flora in most people, so it appears that it is absorbed through the stomach, rather than the intestines. The intestines are chock full of helpful bacteria, which is why feces should never be sterile. Whether or not it is sterile at any point in the journey is something I sure don't know... Could it be that the septic tank was partially sterilized by pouring CS down the drain? I think that wouldn't be a good idea, so I throw it out on the ground if I have discard it. quietcove - Original Message - From: Ode Coyote To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, July 20, 2001 12:49 PM Subject: Re: CS>eliminating CS If there is sufficient CS in the feces to sterilize a septic tank, it stands to reason that that amount might render the feces sterile as well but that CS is neutralized in 'effect' by the solid nature of the feces. The feces should have been sterilized while forming... before it reached the solid state? [Re infected lower down and later on?] ..or is CS converted or somehow neutralized somewhere in the stomach allowing for the relative absence of tummy complaints in CS drinkers [an idea opposed by many tummy complaints being relieved]? I believe it's been established that most of CS elimination is feces related with some in urine? Gee I dunno. Apparently there's an undigested picture in my head. Hinting at questions I guess. Ken At 09:13 AM 7/20/01 -0400, you wrote: >>>> Hi Ken Urine should always be sterile until it is exposed to outside organisms. If it is not, then you have a bladder infection. Feces should never be sterile. quietcove - Original Message - From: <mailto:coy...@alltel.net>Ode Coyote To: <mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com>silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, July 20, 2001 11:04 AM Subject: Re: CS>eliminating CS How about just seeing if your urine and/or feces is sterile or not? Ken At 06:49 AM 7/20/01 EDT, you wrote: >>>> In a message dated 7/20/2001 12:43:17 AM Eastern Daylight Time, <mailto:jimbl...@wt.net>jimbl...@wt.net writes: Subj:CS>eliminating CS Date:7/20/2001 12:43:17 AM Eastern Daylight Time From: <mailto:jimbl...@wt.net>jimbl...@wt.net (Jim Black) Reply-to: <mailto:jimbl...@wt.net>jimbl...@wt.net (Jim Black) To: silver-list@eskimo.com Hey CS List, I have a problem, maybe someone out there has the answer. I have an aerobic septic tank system which relies on bacteria to break down whatever is flushed down the toilet. I have been told that the bacteria activity is very, very low in the tank for some reason. I believe the reason is the daily consumption of CS being flushed down the toilet in urine and feces. Does anyone know of something I can flush down the toilet which will bind with or otherwise eliminate the CS in the septic tank? Thanks Jim Jim: I thought I had a similar situation to yours which was solved by using liquid RID-EX. Frankly, I'm not sure the CS was causing the problem. Urine and feces, for example, should have any silver bound to proteins or other compounds so that the silver may not be able to attack microorganisms. As a matter of fact, that seems like a good experiment to do. Culture some bacteria and note the "kill time" for your CS "as is", and then after ingesting CS, determine the "kill time" for your urine at various time periods after ingestion. Perhaps others who are reading my message would like to try this test as well. After all, you don't want to piss away a good opportunity to learn something. Right? Roger <<<< -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour <<<<
Re: CS>eliminating CS
Hi Ken Urine should always be sterile until it is exposed to outside organisms. If it is not, then you have a bladder infection. Feces should never be sterile. quietcove - Original Message - From: Ode Coyote To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, July 20, 2001 11:04 AM Subject: Re: CS>eliminating CS How about just seeing if your urine and/or feces is sterile or not? Ken At 06:49 AM 7/20/01 EDT, you wrote: >>>> In a message dated 7/20/2001 12:43:17 AM Eastern Daylight Time, jimbl...@wt.net writes: Subj:CS>eliminating CS Date:7/20/2001 12:43:17 AM Eastern Daylight Time From: jimbl...@wt.net (Jim Black) Reply-to: <mailto:jimbl...@wt.net>jimbl...@wt.net (Jim Black) To: silver-list@eskimo.com Hey CS List, I have a problem, maybe someone out there has the answer. I have an aerobic septic tank system which relies on bacteria to break down whatever is flushed down the toilet. I have been told that the bacteria activity is very, very low in the tank for some reason. I believe the reason is the daily consumption of CS being flushed down the toilet in urine and feces. Does anyone know of something I can flush down the toilet which will bind with or otherwise eliminate the CS in the septic tank? Thanks Jim Jim: I thought I had a similar situation to yours which was solved by using liquid RID-EX. Frankly, I'm not sure the CS was causing the problem. Urine and feces, for example, should have any silver bound to proteins or other compounds so that the silver may not be able to attack microorganisms. As a matter of fact, that seems like a good experiment to do. Culture some bacteria and note the "kill time" for your CS "as is", and then after ingesting CS, determine the "kill time" for your urine at various time periods after ingestion. Perhaps others who are reading my message would like to try this test as well. After all, you don't want to piss away a good opportunity to learn something. Right? Roger <<<< -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>(fwd) [hypertension] Insulin and Its Metabolic Effects (1
Thank you for posting this, my mother and I found it very interesting. We are still discussing it. quietcove - Original Message - From: To: Sent: Monday, July 16, 2001 2:09 PM Subject: Re: CS>(fwd) [hypertension] Insulin and Its Metabolic Effects (1 > Nope, you're mistaken, Mike. > Actually part 3 starts in the second post (labeled part 2&3 of 4)(ahem) and > begins with "What else is bad about sugar? ". "Part 3" does not appear. > It's not labeled in the original post. > Anyway, you got it all! > Wouldn't have caused confusion if I wasn't FORCED to break it up > > Chuck > atrophy - award for lack of exercise. > > On Mon, 16 Jul 2001 11:14:31 +, "M. G. Devour" wrote: > > >If I'm not mistaken, it seems like you sent part 2 twice and skipped > >part 3. If so, why don't you make sure the rest of the list gets the > >whole article, okay mate? > > > -- > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: > silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>OT: RECENT RESULTS
Hi George, This message was meant to be sent to another member on the list, and not to the list itself. My appologies to all. quietcove - Original Message - From: George Martin To: Quietcove Sent: Sunday, July 15, 2001 9:35 AM Subject: Re: CS>OT: RECENT RESULTS How rude! Brooks Bradley is a most valuable member of our community and doesn't deserve to be treated in this manner. You should keep in mind that no one here "owes" anyone information and if it takes a day or two to respond to your "request"...accept it. Regards, George Martin --Original Message Text--- From: Quietcove Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2001 01:11:03 -0400 still don't know - Original Message - From: JudytheK To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, July 15, 2001 12:11 AM Subject: RE: CS>OT: RECENT RESULTS Please, what is CMO? -Original Message- From: brooks bradley [mailto:liat...@flash.net] Sent: Saturday, July 14, 2001 8:31 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CS>OT: RECENT RESULTS To all interested list members. Recently, through a rather serendipitous circumstance, we discovered that a variation of our original arthritis protocol appears to offer a welcome reinforcement/improvement methodology. We have been experiencing a significant incidence (20 to 25%) of re-incursion of measureable arthritic symptomsespecially among our older experimental volunteers-primarily, but not exclusively of the osteoarthritis types. We invoked several different variations of our protocol, involving changes in the different percentagesand protocol components..and experienced some intersting results. Without trying your patience through relating what did not yield effective address, I will relate.what did. The most rapid, and effective alleviation came through a significant increase in each affected volunteer's quantitative intake of gluscosamine and chondroitin. e.g. In those cases formerly---but no longer---satisfactorily responsive, the daily dosage wasessentiallydoubled (i.e. from 2000 mg GS to 4000mg). In some cases, to 6000 mg. The response was dramatic and quite rapid.considering the age of the volunteers and the fact that the body's utilization of these compounds is measureably less rapid than those more directly linked to the blood-borne constitutents of the cardiovascular system. Definitive improvement manifested in a majority of caseswithin 4 days.or less. Additionally, from among the "affected" population about 25% displayed delayed---or small---response..even to the increased dosage of GS and Chrondroitin. Significantly, a ten day course of CMO corrected EVERY ONE of these laggard cases. Although only 4 in number, I believe it safe to infer a similar number of persons from among the general population-at-risk, may express the tendency to experience "relapses" relative to the activity of the T cells located in the synovial fluid of the joint capsule. If in fact, this is the case, it might be wise for older sufferers of arthritis centered in articulating joints.to seriously consider a prophylactic course of CMO--annually. The Walmart Corporation now carries CMO under the Natrol brand name (90 capsules for about 28.00). We utilized it, together with others, and found it to be just as effective as products we paid 100.00 for. This is not an endorsement..just our f! indings. All of the volunteers involved in the above-mentioned circumstance are, presently, maintaining the increased levels of GS and Chrondroitinsome at the 6000 mg of GS level. Only one from a population of 16 has experienced continuing complications and these are the result of an additional physical insult and a pronounced condition of varicosity (which presents a continuous environnment of invasive fluids into the joint capsule). He is opting for Radio Frequency Ablation type sclerotherapy..which we believe will successfully resolve his primary problem. I apologize for this lengthy post and will try to move any further commentary to the Alternative Silver list. Sincerely, Brooks Bradley. p.s. Interested parties might consider switching to Enzymatically Hydrolyzed Collagen as a source for a chrondroitin-like fraction..as it is, essentally, the near equal of C. Sulphate and is MUCH LESS expensive, being only about $10.00 for a quart container of powder. Most Walmart stores carry this product in their supplement section. I am not shilling for Walmart; they just seem to be convenient-and economical for our "tight-fisted" buyer.
Re: CS>OT: RECENT RESULTS
still don't know - Original Message - From: JudytheK To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, July 15, 2001 12:11 AM Subject: RE: CS>OT: RECENT RESULTS Please, what is CMO? -Original Message- From: brooks bradley [mailto:liat...@flash.net] Sent: Saturday, July 14, 2001 8:31 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CS>OT: RECENT RESULTS To all interested list members. Recently, through a rather serendipitous circumstance, we discovered that a variation of our original arthritis protocol appears to offer a welcome reinforcement/improvement methodology. We have been experiencing a significant incidence (20 to 25%) of re-incursion of measureable arthritic symptomsespecially among our older experimental volunteers-primarily, but not exclusively of the osteoarthritis types. We invoked several different variations of our protocol, involving changes in the different percentagesand protocol components..and experienced some intersting results. Without trying your patience through relating what did not yield effective address, I will relate.what did. The most rapid, and effective alleviation came through a significant increase in each affected volunteer's quantitative intake of gluscosamine and chondroitin. e.g. In those cases formerly---but no longer---satisfactorily responsive, the daily dosage wasessentiallydoubled (i.e. from 2000 mg GS to 4000mg). In some cases, to 6000 mg. The response was dramatic and quite rapid.considering the age of the volunteers and the fact that the body's utilization of these compounds is measureably less rapid than those more directly linked to the blood-borne constitutents of the cardiovascular system. Definitive improvement manifested in a majority of caseswithin 4 days.or less. Additionally, from among the "affected" population about 25% displayed delayed---or small---response..even to the increased dosage of GS and Chrondroitin. Significantly, a ten day course of CMO corrected EVERY ONE of these laggard cases. Although only 4 in number, I believe it safe to infer a similar number of persons from among the general population-at-risk, may express the tendency to experience "relapses" relative to the activity of the T cells located in the synovial fluid of the joint capsule. If in fact, this is the case, it might be wise for older sufferers of arthritis centered in articulating joints.to seriously consider a prophylactic course of CMO--annually. The Walmart Corporation now carries CMO under the Natrol brand name (90 capsules for about 28.00). We utilized it, together with others, and found it to be just as effective as products we paid 100.00 for. This is not an endorsement..just our findings. All of the volunteers involved in the above-mentioned circumstance are, presently, maintaining the increased levels of GS and Chrondroitinsome at the 6000 mg of GS level. Only one from a population of 16 has experienced continuing complications and these are the result of an additional physical insult and a pronounced condition of varicosity (which presents a continuous environnment of invasive fluids into the joint capsule). He is opting for Radio Frequency Ablation type sclerotherapy..which we believe will successfully resolve his primary problem. I apologize for this lengthy post and will try to move any further commentary to the Alternative Silver list. Sincerely, Brooks Bradley. p.s. Interested parties might consider switching to Enzymatically Hydrolyzed Collagen as a source for a chrondroitin-like fraction..as it is, essentally, the near equal of C. Sulphate and is MUCH LESS expensive, being only about $10.00 for a quart container of powder. Most Walmart stores carry this product in their supplement section. I am not shilling for Walmart; they just seem to be convenient-and economical for our "tight-fisted" buyer.
Re: CS>Fw: INTRODUCTION
Hi, I have found that Ginger tea or candied ginger and proteolytic enzymes (wobenzym) has helped with my lymphedema. Vitamin C in fairly large doses also seems to help. Increase vitamin W to maximum levels. (water!) quietcove - Original Message - From: Gladys Williams To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, July 13, 2001 1:52 AM Subject: CS>Fw: INTRODUCTION - Forwarded Message - From: Gladys Williams To: silverl...@eskimo.com Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2001 00:43:22 -0400 Subject: INTRODUCTION I'm NEW TO THE LIST- I am 55 years old, Director of Fundraising for a small charity in NYC. Injured my back and have been on Workmens Compensation for the past year. The lack of exercise added 30 pounds (used to speed walk 3-5 miles daily-now walking 2 blocks is painful, 4 blocks, I'm almost in tears.). Stopping smoking added 30 more pounds. BECAUSE OF THE WEIGHT I have a severe case of SLEEP APNEA (heavy snoring-stop breathing) and LOWER LIMB LYMPHEDEMA (swollen legs, ankles, feet). ACID REFLUX , PARASITES, ECZEMA on one foot and FUNGUS on the BIG TOENAIL (same foot) AND one herniated disc AND beginning ARTHRITIS in my back. I have to sleep with my legs wrapped in thick brown ace bandages every night and wear elastic hose during the day to keep the swelling down. AND so I don't snore the house down, I have to sleep connected by a hose to a CPAP machine.. Yesterday I was a BABE today I resemble a chubby mummy in a WW1 soldiers mustard gas mask And no, I am not married. H-E-L-P!!! CAN CSilver or Gold Help ME??? How about MSM?? AND does anyone know a good cheap NATUROPATH in NY or NJ or CT GWilliams PS I took CS some years ago-it was so expensive, for such a small bottle., Never dreamed you could make it. I'm impressed. I'm so-so ready to learn!!
CS>virus removal
LeavesFor those on the list who are not conversant with removing viruses, please visit; http://www.symantec.com/avcenter/tools.list.html You can download specific tools to remove kak worm and other viruses for free. Hope that helps. quietcove -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Virus
Hi Ralph, Actually the disappearance of your colloidal silver archives was not due to the virus, but probably your anti-virus being set to delete infected files. Yes, there was a KAK.worm that came in on the list, but it does not delete any files at all. Check your anti-virus settings. quietcove - Original Message - From: "Ralph D.Gerhardt" To: Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2001 9:09 AM Subject: CS>Virus > Chuck, > > I agree. I don't use Outlook. I use eudora so I don't have to use > Outlook. A very strange thing happened with this virus. Norton did not > indicate a virus when it came in but "caught" it when I transferred the > infected file to a Colloidal Silver mailbox in Eudora. Apparently the > virus was able to do its damage even though Norton indicated that it had > isolated it in quarantine. I agree that Mike does a great job so then why > do I think it came in the Silver List? (1) The name of the virus is > "Colloidal silver.mbx" and (2) it only infected my CS files. It destroyed > the Eudora mailbox containing all of my Silver List archives (since the > last virus-this has happened twice). Nothing else was bothered. Those two > reasons are why I think it came in one of the Silver Lists. It bothers me > that no one else seems to have been infected with the virus. I wonder if > this virus is Eudora specific. I certainly hope not but there are some > crazies out there that might want to hurt eudora users like they have hurt > Outlook users. > > Also, thanks to Judith for the tips on protecting myself. > > Ralph > > > -- > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: > silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>RE: Ant Remedy
Hi, You need to use active bakers yeast. The molases and sugar are not only bait, but food for the yeast. When the mixture hits a nice moist ant tummy the yeast grows very quickly! BTW, it works like bread - it takes a while to rise, so the ants go away and they don't come back. Give it a week or two and you'll won't see them again. In the begining you may think you are just feeding them, because they have time to tell the whole nest where the food is. Pretty soon you'll see the numbers diminish. quietcove - Original Message - From: "kukurippa _" To: Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2001 9:18 PM Subject: CS>RE: Ant Remedy > Hi, > > Just pulled the following recipe from the archive for getting rid of ants. > Question: what type of yeast are we talking about here? Brewer's > nutritional type of yeast? Or active yeast that you use for baking? > > Thanks, > > Eleanor > > > Fool proof non-toxic recipe for > ants. > > 1/3 cup molases > 1/4 cup sugar > 2 tbs yeast > mix into a paste > > Spread a small amount on plastic or > paper and place > out > of the way, but where ants can get to > it. > > > The sugar and molases are irresistable > to ants and > act as food for the yeast. Gives them > such a bad > case of gas that they literally explode. Really. Give it a week or two > and you > won't see them again. > > > > _ > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > > > -- > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: > silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > List maintainer: Mike Devour
