Re: CSHow did we ever get here on this subject?
VERY well said, Macolm. Once you know the tactics . Malcolm wrote: I'm much more concerned with the drift that this is becoming a 'Believer's' forum and that someone who resorts to arcane and unavailable 'proof' such as calibration which, note, is used as a weapon as much as a sign of cosmic - and note that - approval of rectitude, is making this his own fiefdom. Yes, the hypnotic? ad nauseum posts, (on both lists) the subtle insults to anyone who disagrees, the ignoring of any challenges by those who DO know what they are talking about with regards to scientific methodologies. The blurring of boundaries creating cognitive dissonance. The extreme arrogance. - you may detect a strong desire to control the conversation and beliefs of others. Yep - I certainly do. Like it's a mission of some sort. I despise it, and though I find all this stuff about dowsing, demons and other disembodied entities interesting,I find Boddhi's use of it to further his control of a clacque disgusting. Off course there are many kinds of disease - (strong clue here as to where he is coming from) Shiona Wonder why he doesn't use his real name? -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSLyme disease
bodhisattva wrote: Marshalls paragraph calibrates at about 1000 (or very close, I round up/down), your reply is dangerously close to zero. OR ...just MAYBE you're method of calibration is... possibly totally meaningless amd misleading? So either CS wasn't the sole reason you are cured, or you still have lyme, or a combination of both. and MAYBE some of your statements also! To date, I have never heard of anyone curing themselves of Lyme with just CS, MAYBE you have not heard of everything ? But I will point out, there have been suppressed clinical studies that PROVE Negative Ions dramatically improve the absorption and usage of VitaminC by the body. Surprise, surprise!! Shiona -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSLyme disease
Marshall Dudley wrote: . Lyme has a number of hiding places, and cannot be eliminated with a protocol that gets them as well, such as the Beck protocol. Another mistake? Sounds like you are a bit confused. Shiona -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSLyme disease
bodhisattva wrote: There is absolutely no statistical odds of that happening unless we're tapping the same cosmic wisdom. OR... unless you are both very confused :) Shiona -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSLyme disease
Malcolm wrote: Shiona; Naah, but he is trying to get stuff written when his mind is tired; hence bauxite for basalt and other examples of what Kurt Vonnegut referred to as mental gears skipping a tooth. Ice Nine? Granfalloon? Bokonon. I've replied on the Off Topic List. Shiona -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSpre mixing CS and DMSO Mix skin Tags ???
Hi Dee, Well I did use H202 for a few days which didn't seem to have any noticeable effect before trying the CS, so it might actually have been the combination of both that did it, must say I was pretty surprised when it dropped off ! Shiona Dorothy Fitzpatrick wrote: Unfortunately, this has never worked for me. dee On 21 Dec 2009, at 13:54, Shiona Phillips wrote: C.S on it's own worked for me in removing a skin tag after spraying it for only a few days. Shiona -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSpre mixing CS and DMSO Mix skin Tags ???
C.S on it's own worked for me in removing a skin tag after spraying it for only a few days. Shiona zzekel...@aol.com wrote: In a message dated 12/20/2009 10:59:40 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, devorah...@yahoo.com writes: Would Brooks mix be good for skin tags as well? thanks much debbie Hi Debbie, I'm not sure as I have never used it fro that. I do know the subject of skin tags has been discussed before someone had good luck with something.-- Hopefully that person will see this comment---Lois -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSSpeaking of Migraines....
Hidden infections under teeth could also be a factor. My regular migraines cleared up after having a root canal treated tooth removed. I was only getting mild toothache but having tried many things before this, diet, cleansing fasts, herbs, chiropractic, acupuncture, decided to have it removed after reading (Dr Hulda Clark) about potential problems with root canal treated teeth, and found that indeed it was infected underneath. There's often a combination of causes. Mine were also linked to neck problems and hormonal cycles, but it was having the tooth out that cleared them up for me Wishing your wife success in finding a solution. Shiona -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSskin tags
Have you tried C.S yet? It worked for me on a skin tag. Shiona jessie70 wrote: I bought this bloodroot and put on a skin tag on my neck. I had to use a bandaid and then got 2 boils nearby and then a burn mark on my skin where the stuff must have sat on my skin. Nothing happened to the skin tag though. The burn really itched for about a week while it was healing. Jess -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSRemoving Moles (Documentation) No way !
Not sure about moles but for skin tags it's worth trying colloidal silver before anything more drastic. I removed a skin tag by applying colloidal silver and after a few days it just dropped off. Also tried the duct tape method (actually suggested by my doctor), on a verouca and that worked too. Apparently it's the deprivation of oxygen method that knocks a verouca on the head, so this might be effective on skin tags and moles also.. As for skin tags, CS certainly worked for me! Shiona Day Sutton wrote: My Grandmother (in the late 30's and early 40's) would put mashed potatoes on her moles and bandaid on top. They would drop off in two to three weeks... I have since heard that they require oxygen. That would cut off their supply. Also lends credence to the Duct Tape cure also... -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSThe Good, The BAD, and The Ugly, Nicotine and H2O2
Wayne Fugitt wrote: I am working on an article called, The Health Benefits of Nicotine. It has been used for a medicine for hundreds of years. One of the worlds greatest doctors State.. Nicotine prevents and Cures many diseases. That FACT, is totally suppressed from the American People. Why ? Why ? Why Hi Wayne, I would be interested to see your article. I researched the subject myself several years ago, being a smoker myself, and it's fascinating just what has been hidden behind the scenes on the subject. Some tribal cultures have traditionally smoked large amounts of tobacco without any adverse side effects, but of course this was/is natural tobacco without the thousands of chemicals that commercial tobacco products contain. I myself grew my own for many years before it was possible to buy American Spirit in the UK. American Spirit - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natural_American_Spirit The beneficial properties of nicotine are related to the affects of acetylcholine on neurotransmitters - http://health.howstuffworks.com/nicotine4.htm - enabling one to think more clearly and apparently it also has something to do with improving the transmission of oxygen to the brain. There is also research to suggest that some people have more of a need for assistance in this department than others due to their biological make-up which is why some people get hooked after their first cigarette and some don't. I heard a story once which illustrates something of it's properties. A group of people are held in a siege situation. There is a need for everyone to stay calm and suppress their natural desire to escape, to run away and make a bid for freedom. However, due to the obviously life threatening dangers presented by the enemies which surround the building, this would of course be rather foolish. People in the room have differing types of receptors and therefore differing abilities to produce the calming and feel good chemicals such as endorphins and seratonin required to make them feel settled enough in the situation to just sit it out. Those who have less of these will obviously be feeling more discomfort and agitation in such a situation. It could also be compared to a classroom of children where some of them seem to spend alot of time daydreaming out of the window, something which I myself did alot of :) Native shamans have also traditionally used nicotine to remove negative entities from a persons energy field and some refer to it having grounding properties. Marijuana has been blacklisted in a similar fashion. However recent studies have proved that it most definately does have medicinal properties which have helped many people already with various illnesses including MS, Arthritis and Alzheimers http://marijuanaforalzheimers.blogspot.com/2007/09/marijuana-may-prevent-alzheimers.html Recent discoveries of it's benefits show how it contains an anti-cancer compound http://www.qmul.ac.uk/news/newsrelease.php?news_id=175 which is very exciting in it's abilities to heal brain cancers : http://www.newscientist.com/article.ns?id=dn6283 and breast cancers :http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,312132,00.html Shiona -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSFriend with Basil Cell Carcinoma
David Bearrow wrote: I would not use black salve on a nose as the nose tissue is too small and the black salve is very aggressive and you risk burning a hole in your nose if not burning your nose off completely. Jason Eyton experimented on himself and took pictures of removing a skin cancer off his trunk with a black salve called cansema (now off the market, guy who sold it in jail). Warning graphic pictures in this link: http://www.silvermedicine.org/silver-healing-clay-cancer.html Dave Ingrid Naimon has written an excellent book on the subject http://www.cancersalves.com/ A friend of mine experimented with one of her herbal salve recipes with very good results but has now decided to opt for surgery as the location of his carcenoma just below the eye is very awkward, and therefore proved very difficult to apply the cream without it getting in his eye. Ingrid recommends a less aggressive salve for less aggressive carcenomas. The formula of hers we tried is basically goldenseal, turmeric and calendula oil. This is a much more gentle salve than the black salves, but if one wants the faster and more aggressive approach, zinc chloride can be added to this goldenseal recipe. If one chooses the zinc chloride route then one should do plenty of research beforehand and then act quickly and be persistent with following the procedures otherwise there is the danger of possibly aggravating the growth of that which one is trying to eradicate. http://www.cancersalves.com/botanical_approaches/individual_herbs/bloodroot.htm When there is no real definition of the treatment site, i.e., when no one really knows how extensive the malignancy or infection is, it is virtually impossible to anticipate the size or nature of the reaction to bloodroot. When bloodroot is mixed with zinc chloride—as it usually is—reactions can be violent and unpredictable. Elsewhere on this site, I speculate about how and why this happens. I suspect it is because the morbidity is extensive, i.e., not as localized as the tumorous mass itself. Where there is infection, toxicity, acidity, and various other conditions in the vicinity of the tumor, responses to bloodroot applications can take place in minutes and affect much more tissue than the actual site where the paste is applied. Then, depending on the product used and the skill of the person using the product, inflammation, pain, and ultimately scarring can be more than some people expect. It is for such reasons that I feel that most people should be treated by experts, people with experience in this particular treatment modality. Other Concerns Since reactions to bloodroot can be painful and highly inflammatory, it seems to me that those opting for this treatment need to be well-informed, prepared, resolute, and decisive. To me, it has never seemed like an option to start this treatment and quit though I know people who have started and then turned to surgery as well as those who interrupted the treatment for some weeks or months and later resumed it. The fact that they lived suggests that the treatment is not as dangerous as it looks, but it is also not for the faint of heart. I personally believe that those using bloodroot preparations are well-advised to destroy the entire tumor as quickly as possible since I feel that inflammation and irritation of the tumor can conceivably aggravate tumor growth. Shiona -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: Fw: CSFrench Clay May Be The Answer to MRSA
Yes, wonderful stuff . ..clay.There was a news report recently in the UK showing villages in India where food shortages are occurring as a direct result of land that was once food producing now being utilized for bio-fuel production. The villagers are living off baked mud cakes, as there is nothing else to eat. At least they'll be getting a healthy dose of the healing properties of clay. Many people ingest clay on a regular basis for it's therapeutic benefits, myself included. A helpful site and discussion group at : http://www.aboutclay.com/ Shiona Paula Perry wrote: This is an old message that I had saved. In light of the huge number of people contacting MRSA these days it seems important that we have items on hand that can be administered quickly in addition to CS. Paula http://news.independent.co.uk/health/article3104663.ece http://news.independent.co.uk/health/article3104663.ece Scientists have discovered a new and highly effective weapon against deadly superbugs like the MRSA sweeping through Britain's dirty hospital wards – -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSIonic minerals
Mark Fletcher wrote: If this question is off-topic for this list, please let me know (I'm a newbie). I was wondering what the general consensus is here about ionic mineral supplements. Are they useful? I have been taking Concentrace on and off for 15 years. I don't feel any more or less nourished when I take it or go without it. Mark Hi Mark, Last year Concentrace was discussed and it appears that several on the list have tried this product and feel that it benefits them. I've included a post by Terry which was very informative and also one from myself which illustrates the differences between seawater products and transdermal magnesium chloride oil, which has also been a subject of discussion here. Magnesium is the main ingredient in Concentrace and apparently is an extremely beneficial supplement that is particularly effective if applied transdermally to the skin - in baths or with a body spray. Niagri (de-hydrated seawater used as the basis for making Tofu) has recently been suggested as a cheaper substitute for transdermal magnesium chloride oil, however it appears that Niagri, due to it's having been de-hydrated, does not contain such a high concentration of magnesium chloride as the transdermal oil products. However it is a cheaper alternative and therefore maybe it might also be a cheaper alternative to Concentrace as a general mineral supplement? Quote: According to Quinton, which sells injectable Hypertonic and Isotonic sea water medical products (approximately $56 per liter and 224 dollars per gallon) sea water which has been subjected to evaporation, and then to subsequent reconstitution from the resulting dry residue, does not display the same living qualities as seawater products that are not dried. This would apply to Nagari magnesium products that are sold for making tofu. Shiona Dee said, At one time I used to buy the so-called colloidal minerals from Joel Wallach and others. I then read that these were no good because they are not bio available in that form, so I started taking Concentrace. I can't remember why I stopped taking it but can you tell me why it is better than the colloidal minerals mentioned? The source of Wallachs minerals is from a huge deposit found in Utah, I believe. On one side of a small mountain is where they are mined. On the other side is the mining location owned by the Clark family. I suspect they are digging these minerals from two sides of the same huge deposit. The form of minerals they are extracting from the ground is called humic shale. It is believed to be the remains of dinosaurs, trees, plants, etc., that were buried in earthquake crevasses or sucked into tar ponds, etc. In other words, the mineral levels and proportions would be what you would find in a living organism. The minerals have turned pretty much into rock again (fossilized), but, when ground up into powder and then suspended in liquid, they make a comprehensive source of minerals. Although some folks claim that these are not the type of minerals our bodies need (being essentially rock), there is enough positive evidence to support using them as a possible mineral supplement (especially if you cannot get Concetrace). Concentrace comes from the Great Salt Lake, also in Utah. The Great Salt Lake is actually a small ocean, according to the scientists. It is distinctive in that water flows into this ocean (lakes, streams), but no water flows out. It does not overflow because the heat in Utah causes the water to constantly evaporate. The evaporation causes the water to leave, but the minerals in the water to remain (Natures distillation). The water in the Lake is so concentrated with minerals that, if you were to wade out into the water as far as you could go, you would only sink in up to your waste. The water is actually “thick” with minerals. The minerals come from various plant matter that washes down from surrounding vegetation, as well as soil minerals. People travel from all over the world to bathe in the Great Salt Lake. What impressed me about Concentrace (apart from the much cheaper price), was that the minerals in it are dissolved minerals, rather than suspended. The Wallach (and Clark) stuff is artificially suspended, and will fall out of suspension (you need to shake the bottle). Concentrace has an infinite shelf life. Plus, the Clark/Wallach stuff is mixed with flavorings and sweeteners, which I do not personally want. Just give me the minerals, please. Concentrace has every mineral the body needs, over 100, and these minerals are in the nearly identical proportions to each other as is found in healthy human blood plasma. Humic shale has about 80 minerals. The term, bio-available, refers to how easy to assimilate a substance is. The minerals found in the ground, being metallic, must be converted by our bodies to a form our bodies can use before they are assimilated and utilized by our bodies. Plants do the converting for us, by changing
Re: CSExceptions
gmetrop...@aol.com wrote: It is an abcess probably from the cavity. He has been tested for appropriate filling material which is the most inert one and has no problems in other teeth. He gagged and vomitted after the oil pulling attempt. You could consider using Bentonite clay. Here's a testimonial from the website owner of Eytons Earth. The following link takes you to a discussion on the subject. Shiona http://www.eytonsearth.org/forum/about10-0-asc-0.html I'd like to share a very recent experience with the treatment of a mouth infection, which was secondary to a small injury. After injuring a tooth ( blunt trauma ), the individual developed an abscess, complete with significant pain and swelling, including swelling of the lymph nodes below the jaw. These types of infections can very often resist antibiotic treatment, and silver/H2O2 often fail to adress the condition as well. White paper towels were used ( torn up ), and then saturated with colloidal bentonite, hydrated with 1/2 isolated colloidal silver, and 1/2 high PH water. The process of preperation was very similiar to making paper mache. A strip of the dressing, having been saturated with the clay magma, is then packed in the mouth, so that the treatment area is completely covered. Using something such as a paper towel makes the dressing very maleable to conform to any surface. The clay compress was left on for 30 minutes per treatment. This needs to be continued UNTIL the wound begins to irrigate. Upon removal of the dressing, one should see blood on the dressing. Although an increase in pain may be felt ( and in this case, was felt ), continued treatment has always lead to rapid cessation of the pain. After three thirty minute treatments, the pain was vastly reduced. After the abcess began to drain, isolated silver, mixed with a small amount of H2O2, was used ( but not swallowed ). .. This mixture should be held in mouth for as long as possible. Only a small amount of H2O2 is needed; five drops of 3% per two ounces ( I have utilized as much as 4 drops of 35% H2O2 per 4 ounces of silver ). This treatment can be safely done as often as needed. The abscess cleared within 36 hours. Care must be taken, however; sometimes an infection reaches the jaw bone. Such a treatment is not a replacement for proper medical diagnosis. If the infection has reached deep into the bone, prolonged treatment with clay must be conducted, even when the pain has completely left. In some situations, H2o2/silver should be used in both ears. I cannot say why the h2o2/silver treatment in the ear has proven to be valueable with severe mouth infections; I can only document that it has, on at least 3 occassions, proven advantageous. _ ~ Jason -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSFrench Clay May Be The Answer to MRSA
French Muck: The New Penicillin for MRSA? (28 October 2007) http://news.independent.co.uk/health/article3104663.ece http://news.independent.co.uk/health/article3104663.ece Scientists have discovered a new and highly effective weapon against deadly superbugs like the MRSA sweeping through Britain's dirty hospital wards – green French muck. The dramatic antibiotic success of agricur, a clay made from ancient volcanic ash found near the Massif Central, marks it out as a potential rival to penicillin, the wonder drug of the 20th century. In experiments, the clay killed up to 99 per cent of superbug colonies within 24 hours. Control samples of MRSA (methicillin- resistant Staphylococcus aureus) grew 45-fold in the same period. The clay has a similar effect on other deadly bacteria tested, including salmonella, E. coli, and a flesh-eating disease called buruli, a relative of leprosy which disfigures children across central and western Africa. It has been classed as an emerging public health threat by the World Health Organization (WHO). -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSre
faith gagne wrote: Does anyone have any suggstions for coping with insomnia? That will be greatly appreciated. Thank you. Faith You could try Melatonin. I get mine from http://www.worldwidelabs.com/products/melatonin.php Shiona -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSMagnesium Chloride - Transdermal Therapy
jessie70 wrote: Shiona, how do you take the mag oil, internally? Jess Hi Jessie, It appears that the oil is very similar to other forms of liquid minerals such as Concentrace, so no doubt can be taken in similar dosages internally (and apparently the only side effect from taking too much would be a laxative one, as with Vitamin C) but Dr Sircus's website highlights the advantages of applying transdermal applications of the oil such as adding a couple of ounces in a bath, or footbath, or using a body spray. The theory is that applying the oil to the skin is a much more effective and faster way of getting higher doses into the body without side effects, than by taking oral supplements (and also avoids the possible dangers of polluted pharmaceutical grade magnesium products). From his website: http://www.magnesiumforlife.com/dosage.shtml. There is no specific information about oral magnesium chloride in liquid form but it is reasonably safe to assume it would be more absorbable than magnesium taurate. Liquid minerals are thought to be much more absorbable than tablets. 3-5 sprays of magnesium chloride in a glass of pure water is an excellent way to take magnesium internally. It assists digestion, counteracts excess acidity in the stomach, and delivers magnesium swiftly into the bloodstream for distribution to all the cells of the body. Daniel Reid Tao of Detoxification The taste of the solution is not very good (it has a bitter-saltish flavor) so a little of fruit juice (grapefruit, orange, lemon) can be added to the solution. Individuals with very sensitive taste buds may start using it in tiny amounts mixed with strongly flavoured food and increase doses very gradually. Alternatively, drink it in one gulp dissolved in water while pinching your nose and quickly drink something pleasant afterwards. Daniel Reid says, “Using Magnesium Oil is the quickest and most convenient way to transmit magnesium chloride into the cells and tissues through the skin. 2-3 sprays under each armpit function as a highly effective deodorant, while at the same time transporting magnesium swiftly through the thin skin into the glands, lymph channels, and bloodstream, for distribution throughout the body. Spray it onto the back of the hand or the top of the feet any time of day or night for continuous magnesium absorption. Regardless of where you apply the spray on the body, once it penetrates the surface of the skin, the body transports it to whichever tissues need magnesium most.” Dr. Norm Shealy recommends using 6-8 oz in each bath you take when you use his suggested magnesium chloride product, which is a food grade magnesium chloride. With the Magnesium Oil that we recommend using, the recommended amount per bath is only 2 oz. The cost and the amount you use is dependent on the concentration of the magnesium oil used. The magnesium oil we recommend is 30–35 percent Magnesium Chloride as opposed to 25 percent for Dr. Shealy’s oil. It’s the difference between using MgCl2 evaporated from sea water and MgCl2-6H2O powder to make the oil. The magnesium oil also comes in a gel (lower concentration for massage) form as well as a small bottle with a spray pump for easy application to the skin. All massage therapists should be using the gel, and even families, for it is always a good idea to combine a massage with a magnesium treatment. The oil, which is not an oil actually, (it just has an oily consistency), is also usable in massage applications. If we really appreciated how important it is to make sure our magnesium levels are satisfactory we would be spraying our underarms with it everyday, spraying it on to different parts of our body and would never leave it out of our baths. Shiona -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSmagnesium oil and Concentrace
Teri Johnston wrote: At 05:20 PM 9/29/2007, you wrote: Since Concentrace feels oily and both magnesium and chloride are listed as present, can I assume that this product is mostly magnesium oil??? tia pj Anybody know for sure, for sure??? Shirley, I have concentrace here along with the Magnesium oil and yes they do feel similar. But the Magnesium Oil does not list all contents? But that said I see many of the same things listed on both products. My guess is they are very similar but one is for internal use and the other for skin use?? Hoping someone else will answer what is now both of our question? Hi, There certainly does appear to be a big similarity between the products as both derive from seawater brine. (BTW I've been taking Concentrace for a few months now and have definately noticed the effects showing by the improvement in my fingernails which are much stronger than before). Here's how Dr Sircus's website describes the seawater Magnesium Oil product that he recommends. http://www.magnesiumforlife.com/productinformation.shtml Product Information The International Medical Veritas Association highly recommends that magnesium chloride be taken in the most natural form available. In keeping with this recommendation, we have found that magnesium chloride taken from the ocean is superior to manufactured magnesium chloride. The manufacturing processes, which yields a crystal or powdered product, usually involves the use of hydrochloric acid. The reasons for a preference for natural sources for magnesium chloride are abundant but the most essential reasons are as follows: • The Magnesium Oil we will refer you to is considerably less toxic in terms of heavy metals than industrial fabricated products. • The magnesium oil that we will refer you to is considerably more concentrated than all the other products we have investigated. There is approximately twice as much elemental magnesium as in magnesium oils that are created from magnesium chloride powder or crystal, thus making the products we recommend more cost effective and more therapeutically active. • Magnesium products from the ocean have certain properties that cannot be replicated in a manufacturing process. The Sea has all ninety two known minerals, and in the exact proportion to human blood. One of Hawaii's fastest-growing exports is seawater. Super-cold water sucked up from thousands of feet below the Pacific Ocean's surface is being marketed as healthy, pure, mineral-rich drinking water. Japanese consumers are paying top dollar for desalinated Hawaiian deep-sea water being marketed as a dietary supplement that aids weight loss, stress reduction, skin tone and digestion. A two-ounce bottle of Hawaii Deep Marine's Kona Nigari seawater mineral concentrate (to mix with regular water) sell for $33.50 ($2,144 a gallon) reported USA Today.[i] And 1.5 liter bottles of desalinated seawater sells for between $4 to $6 each in Japan and Korea. • According to Quinton, which sells injectable Hypertonic and Isotonic sea water medical products (approximately $56 per liter and 224 dollars per gallon) sea water which has been subjected to evaporation, and then to subsequent reconstitution from the resulting dry residue, does not display the same living qualities as seawater products that are not dried. This would apply to Nagari magnesium products that are sold for making tofu. • In general the above seawater products are not concentrates of magnesium chloride but offer a full balance of minerals and trace elements. The Magnesium Oil the IMVA recommends is between 30-35% magnesium chloride by weight. The magnesium in this magnesium oil (there is no oil but magnesium chloride at this concentration yields an oily feel to the product) is not Magnesium Chloride hexahydrate (MgCl2-6H20) mixed with distilled water. In each gallon there are four pounds of completely natural magnesium chloride (6H20 not included) which means there are 3319 milligrams of elemental magnesium in each ounce and approximately 18 milligrams in each spray. The International Medical Veritas Association recommends this natural form of Magnesium Oil because of its strength, purity, price and versatility of use. (It can be used as a mouthwash, for sports and sport injuries and even as a beauty aid for the skin and hair.) Please contact us for more information on sources and prices. The International Medical Veritas Association can make this available to you at significantly discounted and affordable prices. Send your inquiries to: direc...@imva.info Shiona -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer:
Re: CSMagnesium Chloride - Transdermal Therapy
ruth strackbein wrote: Hi, I am very interested in the Magnesium Chloride Oil, but on skimming through your post and the information from the address you gave, I see nothing that tells me where to buy Magnesium Chloride Oil or how much it costs. Ruth Hi Ruth, A couple of sites that were recommended and who are both selling the same product at $72 for half a gallon. Global Light Network: http://www.globallight.net/Magnesium-Oil-Half-Gallon.html Ocean Magnesium Products: http://www.oceanmagnesium.com/ProductInfo.aspx?productid=106 Apparently the Global Light Network product is thought highly of by many people, including Dr Sircus and also another doctor, Carole Dean who wrote The Miracle of Magnesium. However Dr Sircus although previously recommending their product, now recommends a new source of Magnesium oil from Europe which he says is the purest form he's found yet and it will be available in the US in a few months through a company called LL's Magnetic Clay Here's a link to the European Magnesium : http://www.ancientminerals.eu/index1.html http://www.ancientminerals.eu/index1.html and LL's Magnetic Clay : http://www.magneticclay.com/ http://www.magneticclay.com/ http://tinyurl.com/2fwrd5Here's what Dr Sircus had to say on his mailing list about Global Light's Magnesium oil. Magnesium Oil, a solution gathered by salt water evaporation has been our favorite magnesium chloride solution until now. I have been recommending a product from Global Light Network and I have seen it do miracles, even saving the life of my oldest online friend. But recently I have received hints of problems when I was in the interior of Brazil sitting clinic with Dr. Augusto Vinholis. We had ordered a gallon of magnesium oil and what came in the magnesium oil bottle was magnesium gel. Global Light was very unresponsive and seemed not to think it was important. I am aware that Global Light had hired an FDA consultant to put a quality program together, but, instead, after a few months, decided against instituting a full quality assurance program. Without such a program their product does not meet minimum requirements and should be re-filtered before any more is sold. It is disturbing to find problems like this especially in the face of something so necessary and positive in terms of furthering the health and recovery of many people from serious disease. Because of this the IMVA can no longer can no longer reccomend Global Light's products. Shiona -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSMagnesium Chloride - Transdermal Therapy
Over on the http://groups.yahoo.com/group/aboutclay/ list there has been a discussion over the last few days on the subject of transdermal magnesium chloride which involves applying magnesium chloride oil to the skin, which is apparently a very effective way of getting it into the body, using oil derived from brine solutions from seawater. I haven't tried it myself but it looks interesting ... This is the home page of Dr. Mark Sircus, the author of a recommended book Transdermal Magnesium Therapy http://www.magnesiumforlife.com/ There are over 200 published clinical studies[iii] documenting the need for magnesium and many examples of miraculous “cures” from the use of this common mineral. Even DAN (Defeat Autism Now) doctors underestimate autistic children’s needs recommending only 50 milligrams twice a day in oral form. Not much of that is going to get into the children’s blood and cells because oral administration of magnesium is not absorbed readily and is made less available because of all the problems in these kids’ GI systems. Professor Gilbert LeLord of France published six studies evaluating the use of vitamin B6 with magnesium, on autistic children and adults. Their studies typically used as much as 500 milligrams of magnesium with more than satisfactory results. According to Dr. Norman Shealy oral magnesium supplementation takes between 6 to 12 months to restore intracellular levels whereas a transdermally applied magnesium lotion with 25% magnesium chloride restores intracellular levels within 4 to 6 weeks. Some nutritional experts now believe that 750 milligrams of magnesium supplement per day is a more physiologic[iv] recommendation but to take that much orally might upset the digestive system, cause diarrhea, and end up not being properly absorbed. Good sources of magnesium include whole grains, nuts, peanut butter, cottonseed, peanut and soybean flours, green leafy vegetables and spices. It's better to get magnesium from foods rather than supplements because high doses have a laxative effect--the body's way of preventing toxic levels. But unfortunately we have to come to terms with the fact that the food values of magnesium have been dropping over the last fifty years making it extremely difficult to receive all we need from foods. The International Medical Veritas Association recommends a system of transdermal magnesium therapy that bypasses the problems evident with oral magnesium supplementation. (See treatment recommendations) Shiona -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSVarious posts
Must have ben a temporary glitch, it does now. Shiona Dee wrote: This website doesn't respond. Dee /---Original Message---/ /*From:*/ Shiona Phillips mailto:hyasy...@freenetname.co.uk /*Date:*/ 13/04/2007 21:36:22 /*To:*/ silver-list@eskimo.com mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com /*Subject:*/ Re: CSVarious posts Hi, Thanks for the suggestion of Concentrace, I had recently been looking into buying minerals on a regular basis at an economical price and was about to purchase some of more commonly available type of liquid minerals product (diluted in juice) in bulk from the USA, as this would cost less (even with postage) than the usual price per bottle in UK health shops. Luckily Concentrace appears to be available in the UK from http://www.concentrace.co.uk http://www.concentrace.co.uk/ at very reasonable prices. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 269.4.0/759 - Release Date: 12/04/2007 19:58 -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSNot pH again! Yep.
Thanks for the explanation, it's a complex subject. Shiona Terry Chamberlin wrote: Strangely, although I reject the concept that alkaline pH is healthy, with most of my clients I strive to bring them up into the alkaline pH range, at least initially. What I am finally after is BALANCED pH. Terry Chamberlin -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSConcentrace, Wallach, etc.
sol wrote: I thought the GSL was quite polluted from agricultural run off, perhaps from mine run off (Kennecott copper, et al) and so forth. Anyone know? I don't think I'd drink anything from it. And if you've ever been there it smells like sewage, yuck. Is the concentrace product treated in any way to remove pollutants? sol This is what they say on their website: We test our ponds regularly for a broad spectrum of contaminants, including tests during every major harvest period. Contaminant tests include organic and petroleum chemicals, agricultural chemicals and pesticides, and heavy metals. Heavy metals testing also provides some data on additional trace elements. Shiona -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSVarious posts
now where can I get the Concentrace at a reasonable price? Call whatever HF stores are near you and ask for it. If they do not carry it, contact friends who are not near you whom you visit periodically and ask them to call the HF stores near them. If no one carries it, I can ship it to you - $30 plus shipping. Terry Chamberlin Hi, Thanks for the suggestion of Concentrace, I had recently been looking into buying minerals on a regular basis at an economical price and was about to purchase some of more commonly available type of liquid minerals product (diluted in juice) in bulk from the USA, as this would cost less (even with postage) than the usual price per bottle in UK health shops. Luckily Concentrace appears to be available in the UK from http://www.concentrace.co.uk at very reasonable prices. I've recently renewed my interest in organic gardening and have started collecting seaweed from a nearby beach to make a liquid plant feed with as it is meant to be the best kind of fertilizer due to high mineral content. However I would imagine considerable research would need to go into checking the purity of any local seawater before deciding to drink it and of course there is the issue of how to remove the salt. I've also been investigating the supposed benefits of ingesting Bentonite clay. I've used it a few times in colon cleanses (mixed with psyllium), but upon looking at the information at this site, http://www.eytonsearth.org have decided to buy in bulk some calcium bentonite and explore not only more regular internal use, but external use in baths, which are claimed to be very therapeutic and assist the body in removing toxins and heavy metals. I did a colon cleanse a few years ago following Dr Richard Anderson's Cleanse and Purify protocol, and using his Arise and Shine liquid minerals. In his book he affirms the importance of PH testing before a cleanse and suggests that a healthy morning urine sample taken after eating acid forming foods the previous day, ought to show an acidic reading of 5.7 to 6 (ideally 5.6 or below) , proving that the body has enough alkaline mineral supply to remove the acids. If the urine test after eating acid forming foods the previous day shows a very high alkaline level, then this shows that mineral depletion is occurring. If over 6.8 then there are no mineral reserves left and the kidneys are having to excrete ammonia into the urine in order to deal with expulsion of the acids. He says that mineral depletion occurs from consuming too much acid-forming foods after which the body has to steal minerals from elsewhere in the body and that this category of people often gain weight as the body is diluting the acids with lymph and storing them or they may lose weight and suffer from various digestive disorders. He considers a healthy first saliva test of the day to be around 6.4 to 6.6, but ideally 6.7 to 7. He also suggest doing a lemon juice saliva test. The body should react quickly to an extremely acid condition by flushing alkalinity into the mouth and within minutes we should have readings of 8 or above, if not, this is apparently another indication of lack of alkaline minerals. Shiona Shiona -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSNew Subscriber
Hi Frank, I also live in the UK and buy my water from Boots chemist. It's called Ransom's Purified Water and costs around £6 per 5 litres, and it makes nice clear C.S. Someone posted a while back and said (if I remember correctly), that there is not really that much difference between distilled, purified and ionised water and with regards to making Colloidal Silver/EIS, any of these waters are ok to use. Regards, Shiona joe bloggs wrote: I would be very grateful if you could add me to the silver digest list. I am very new at making colloidal silver - I've made about 8 batches of 8oz colloidal silver, using a home made generator with four 9v batteries. I'm fascinated by it all and also not too sure if I'm doing it right. My biggest problem is getting hold of distilled water. I live in England and you wouldn't believe how rare this stuff is now. I'm sure I can remember a time when we could buy distilled water easily. Now it's like gold-dust, LOL. So I'm thinking of buying a distiller. Only problem is finance. I am always totally skint - hence the four 9v batteries. Could I make colloidal silver using de-ionised water, which can be bought at any garage? For the moment the choice for me is colloidal silver using de-ionised, or not make it at all. In other words, is de-ionised better than nothing? Or would it be detrimental? Thanks in advance for any info or advice. Regards, Frankie -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSdistilled water
Hi Frank, Forgot to mention that it has to be ordered by them for you. You may very likely as I did, get an initial response of no we don't sell it, but don't believe them! They can order it and it should only take a few days. Shiona joe bloggs wrote: Shiona, thank you so much for that. I'll get down to Boots first thing Tuesday. I supposed they'll be closed over Easter. Happy Easter and thanks again. Frankie == Hi Frank, I also live in the UK and buy my water from Boots chemist. It's called Ransom's Purified Water and costs around £6 per 5 litres, and it makes nice clear C.S. Someone posted a while back and said (if I remember correctly), that there is not really that much difference between distilled, purified and ionised water and with regards to making Colloidal Silver/EIS, any of these waters are ok to use. Regards, Shiona _ Get Hotmail, News, Sport and Entertainment from MSN on your mobile. http://www.msn.txt4content.com/ -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSquestion about CS
Hi, I've been meaning to try this in my new Pureaire device, ( http://www.pureaire.co.uk/ ) thanks for the reminder. It's a water based airpurifier, humidifier and ioniser that has the option of also scenting the air when you add fragrances to it, costs £40 (approx $70) and comes with 5 samples of organic oils, I love it! Not sure if they ship abroad or whether that would be economical for someone outside the UK but there may be other similar products available if one googles. There's no filter in it which I believe some humidifiers have and these may inhibit the efficacy of the CS, it also doesn't involve any heat which could result in the CS being left behind when the water evaporates such as occurs in heat based humidifiers. Something like this will cleanse and purify a whole room in a few hours, and then if one also adds CS to it . well that sounds like a really good idea to me, especially if one has a cold or respiratory problems as it does some of the work of a nebuliser, (which would no doubt be much more efficient at getting CS into the lungs for serious conditions). Shiona vwol...@aol.com wrote: I use a small spray bottle 3/4 filled with full strength CS. I then add a small amount of scent...one of the few that don't bother me...Jean Nate Cologne or a few drops of Lemon Oil. By doing this...am I cutting the efficacy of the CS? By combining the two I am hoping to disinfect the air as will as leave a pleasant scent. Most scents are verboten in our house because of my allergies. thanks V. See what's free at AOL.com http://www.aol.com?ncid=AOLAOF0002000503. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 269.0.0/750 - Release Date: 06/04/2007 21:30 -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCystic fibrosis
On Thursday, October 19, 2006, at 10:26 PM, Jonathan B. Britten wrote: I have one tip: several years ago I read a series of articles about a gadget that CF patients use to breathe in ordinary air. The device in some manner caused the air to enter the lungs in a pattern or manner that breaks up mucous. I do not recall all the details, but a Google search might turn up this information. The device was not expensive, simple to use, and according to the claims, very effective. It saved parents from having to pound on their childrens' backs to break up the mucous, and was much more effective. Hope this helps. JBB http://www.bearstreetpharmacy.co.uk/flutter.htm The user simply exhales a number of times into the mouthpiece of the FLUTTER - causing a steel ball to vibrate inside the casing. The pressure of blowing against this steel ball, and the vibrations that it makes, travel back into the lungs where they start to have a positive effect. The vibrations affect all the branches of the airways, and like shaking apples from the branches of a tree, mucus is loosened. Shiona
Re: CSCANSEMA Salve -- suppliers
Hi Pete, Although I haven't yet experimented myself with using escharotic salves, I've been reading Ingrid Naimon's book Cancer Salves http://www.cancersalves.com/publications/book.html and thought I'd pass on what she advises in case it is of any use to you. She says that after the eschar detaches, the site should be bloodless, clean and pinkish. Sometimes the site is flat, other times there is a significant crater. Often, there is a hole at the bottom of the crater from which morbid material is discharged. This is usually greenish-grey with an unpleasant odor. If this is the case, it is important that the hole remains open so long as the discharge continues. Poulticing (suggestion: equal parts slippery elm, lobelia, bayberry root bark and flax seeds) keeps the area clean, draws out the morbid material, and prevents the site from closing. When the discharge subsides, her recipe Golden Myrrical, for healing the site is 5oz Goldenseal, 4oz Myrhh and 3 oz Irish Moss blended with castor oil and cured overnight in a yoghurt maker. This lotion helps to keep the site from closing prematurely. Sometimes, after detachment of the eschar, parts of the tumor remain of a different colour to the healthy tissue. Sometimes greenish gray patches can be seen, and if any part remains it's necessary to apply diluted enucleating paste to that spot. It can be diluted and painted on these spots or packed into the crater, depending on how much appears to be remaining. Apparently unless the salve is diluted it will hurt. If there are only a few tiny spots, the escharotic can be applied directly to those spots ( being careful to apply the preperation to a larger area than the visible tumor). The rest of the crater can be filled with the herbal mixture described above. The site should be bandaged/plaster. She says that if some of the tumor remains, it can because the tumor was large and deep, or too little of the enucleating salve was used, or because scratches in the eschar were not made or this step was omitted (something she recommends in order to penetrate the eschar and reach the tumor underneath) and that it is crucial that any residuals are necrotized whilst there is easy access to them. A second eschar will form, usually smaller than the first one and will also usually detach faster. While waiting for it to form, the procedures are essentially the same as the first time. The enucleating salve should be used until the tumor is necrotized. Poultices are indicated when there is discharge and Golden Myrrical can be applied to assist seperation. The area should be kept occlusive and dressings changed at least every day. The site should be kept clean with Colloidal Silver/ Hydrogen Peroxide. This cycle is repeated so long as there is evidence or suspicion of remaining malignancy. When completely satisfied that destruction of the entire tumor has occurred, healing can be permitted. At this time, the treatment site should be free of discharges and odor and should appear entirely clean and pinkish To be extra certain, it may still be wise to apply poultices and ointments for a few more days. She lists various recipes in her book, but a simple healing salve can be made from Goldenseal powder and honey, or a simple Calendula based ointment can be used. When the time comes to close the treatment site, she recommends that Turmeric be added to any healing ointment used, in order to prevent scarring, the healing salve applied thickly for a few days under a bandage/plaster, later gently rubbed into treatment area and surrounding tissue. The Homeopathic remedy Hydrastis candensis can also be used in the healing stage, 3 or 4 times a day for a week. Her recipe for a gentler enucleating paste than Bloodroot based black salves is : 5oz Goldenseal 4oz Turmeric 3oz White Willow Calendula Oil Homeopathic Arnica montana and Apis mellifica can be added to the salve or taken orally for pain relief. Blend ingredients and leave overnight in a yoghurt maker. Zinc Chloride can be added gradually according to how strong a paste is desired, using a dropper bottle containing a teaspoon Zinc Chloride mixed with distilled water. (Do not touch any metal object to the Zinc Chloride) Ingrid does mention in her book that some of the escharotics on the market are so aggressive that they will cause a reaction in healthy as well as malignant tissue This is therefore a feature of that particular escharotic so that despite clams to the contrary reactions are not a clue to malignancy or lack thereof. She says that bloodroot is so unpredictable and inflammatory that there is no way to estimate it's potential action once applied to the skin. There may be no reaction at all or it may become so systemic that excruciating pain and fever are almost immediate and prefers salves based on Goldenseal which she refers to as being elegant and precise I
Re: CSCansema Paste - Recipe
On Tuesday, December 20, 2005, at 12:21 AM, Carol Ann wrote: Hi Jonathan, For the welfare, safety and anonymity of all concerned your suggestion seems very reasonable. There is absolutely NO law that prohibits recipes in a public domain. Let the govt perps have a fit if they are monitering these lists because from what I can see there are no illegal ingredients...and as of today at least, we still have freedom of choice to to self-treat and make our salve. Carol Ann Jonathan B. Britten jbrit...@cc.nakamura-u.ac.jp wrote: It would be a valuable public service if a precise recipe could be placed in the public domain. All ingredients are readily available, I think. JBB Hi all, I've been looking into this subject recently as my partner has a basal carcenoma that we're going to try and treat. As for websites selling Cansema type products, I read on the Alpha Omega website that they are alerting people to the fact that there is one particular imitation of their product to watch out for, being offered by one of their previous customers , a company called, Rising Sun Health http://www.altcancer.com/fake_cansema.htm which definately does NOT contain the original ingredients of their product I'm reading an excellent book by Ingrid Naiman Cancer Salves A Botanical Approach to Treatment full of useful information on the history of use of salves, receipes for various salves and detailed instructions on using the salves. The methods described in Ingrid Naiman's book Cancer Salves: A Botanical Approach to Treatment were traditionally used mainly for breast tumors and skin cancers, but they have been successfully employed for a wide variety of other malignancies, including pancreatic, liver, and kidney cancer. Derivative treatments can be used for uterine-cervix and brain cancer as well as many abnormal conditions affecting the lymphatic system. The internal tonics, often regarded as more important than the external, can be used as either primary or adjunctive treatment for most cancers. She recommends a Golden Seal, rather than Bloodroot, salve for general use as this though taking a longer time, is less aggressive, inflammatory and painful. In her recipe, based on studies of the work 19th Century doctor Guy Pattison, Zinc Chloride can be added to increase the strength and turn it into an enucleating salve (blisters the skin). I am not sure whether to post the actual recipe as she does not actually include this on her website, rather encourages people to buy her book as she considers it important that people also have background knowledge and detailed instructions on methods of application. However, the main ingredients are Goldenseal, Tumeric, White Willow Bark, Calendula Oil (made in apricot kernel oil) If zinc chloride is used, she recommends adding it gradually, according to the needs of the individual, sensitivity, stage of treatment etc - from a dropper bottle filled with 1tsp zinc chloride mixed with distilled water Her book http://www.cancersalves.com/publications/book.html is extremely informative on the whole history of the subject and contains very useful and detailed instructions on using the salves . Her website is well worth a visit which also includes a discussion list on the subject of using salves. http://www.cancersalves.com Shiona
Re: CSRe:treating melanoma
Hi, I've been googling on this subject and there do appear to be various black salves based on a combination of the herb bloodroot and zinc chloride available, but apparently the original Cancema product made by Alpha Omega Labs at www.altcan.com is not available anywhere at present. On their website they alert people to the fact that there is an imitation of their product to watch out for, being offered by one of their previous customers , a company called, Rising Sun Health http://www.altcancer.com/fake_cansema.htm which does NOT contain the original ingredients of their product and which they refer to as an illegal use of our trademark and the deliberate adulteration and mislabelling of the product. Both the Cancema product and another one, called Tumorx at http://www.tumorx.org/ seem to have a large amount of testimonial success to back up the efficacy of this type of salve, but what caught my attention most was the website of Ingrid Naimon who has published a book on natural remedies http://cancersalves.com/publications/book.html. Her website is extremely informative and offers a wealth of useful info. on various skin cancers and their treatment using herbal preperations and her book includes recipes for their preperation. She does not recommend using a bloodroot salve as an initial treatment, as apparently it is quite strong, but advises an initial approach of combining inner cleansing using herbal formulas with treating the outer condition by using gentler (though still effective) herbal salves and also recommends certain other herbal combinations that help the prevention and healing of scar tissue. There is also a bulletin board with discussion of many people's healing journey's in this area. There are some quite remarkable stories of people removing all sorts of tumours, inner and outer, using these techniques. Well worth a look. Shiona On Thursday, December 1, 2005, at 09:36 PM, Acmeair wrote: http://health.centreforce.com/health/cansemaorder.html http://www.barefoot.homeunix.org/~sunwatt/index2.html http://www.altcancercream.com/store/scripts/prodList.asp?idCategory=18 http://www.smarthealthcenter.com/cancer.html http://www.mnwelldir.org/docs/cancer1/altthrpy.htm you can do a google on can-x, and cansemato try to find more sources and/or recipes to make your own, if need be. i've personally observed cansema take off a skin cancer in 15 days. it was not melanoma. please keep me updated, as i have a relative that has had melanoma. jim Jonathan B. Britten wrote: I would recommend finding the original Cancema salve and starting with that. The product is still available but not from vendors in the USA.See altcancer.com. Melanoma is the most dangerous skin cancer and time is of the essence. On Thursday, Dec 1, 2005, at 13:45 Asia/Tokyo, andy andraschko wrote: Hi Group, Has any of group had experience treating melanoma with CS and what are the success with it. Andy Andraschko -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
