Hi Pete,

Although I haven't yet experimented myself with using escharotic salves, I've been reading Ingrid Naimon's book "Cancer Salves" http://www.cancersalves.com/publications/book.html and thought I'd pass on what she advises in case it is of any use to you.

She says that after the eschar detaches, the site should be bloodless, clean and pinkish. Sometimes the site is flat, other times there is a significant crater. Often, there is a hole at the bottom of the crater from which morbid material is discharged. This is usually greenish-grey with an unpleasant odor. If this is the case, it is important that the hole remains open so long as the discharge continues. Poulticing (suggestion: equal parts slippery elm, lobelia, bayberry root bark and flax seeds) keeps the area clean, draws out the morbid material, and prevents the site from closing. When the discharge subsides, her recipe "Golden Myrrical", for healing the site is 5oz Goldenseal, 4oz Myrhh and 3 oz Irish Moss blended with castor oil and cured overnight in a yoghurt maker. This lotion helps to keep the site from closing prematurely.

Sometimes, after detachment of the eschar, parts of the tumor remain of a different colour to the healthy tissue. Sometimes greenish gray patches can be seen, and if any part remains it's necessary to apply diluted enucleating paste to that spot. It can be diluted and painted on these spots or packed into the crater, depending on how much appears to be remaining. Apparently unless the salve is diluted it will hurt. If there are only a few tiny spots, the escharotic can be applied directly to those spots ( being careful to apply the preperation to a larger area than the visible tumor). The rest of the crater can be filled with the herbal mixture described above. The site should be bandaged/plaster.

She says that if some of the tumor remains, it can because the tumor was large and deep, or too little of the enucleating salve was used, or because scratches in the eschar were not made or this step was omitted (something she recommends in order to penetrate the eschar and reach the tumor underneath) and that it is crucial that any residuals are necrotized whilst there is easy access to them.

A second eschar will form, usually smaller than the first one and will also usually detach faster. While waiting for it to form, the procedures are essentially the same as the first time. The enucleating salve should be used until the tumor is necrotized. Poultices are indicated when there is discharge and Golden Myrrical can be applied to assist seperation. The area should be kept occlusive and dressings changed at least every day. The site should be kept clean with Colloidal Silver/ Hydrogen Peroxide.

This cycle is repeated so long as there is evidence or suspicion of remaining malignancy. When completely satisfied that destruction of the entire tumor has occurred, healing can be permitted. At this time, the treatment site should be free of discharges and odor and should appear entirely clean and pinkish To be extra certain, it may still be wise to apply poultices and ointments for a few more days.

She lists various recipes in her book, but a simple healing salve can be made from Goldenseal powder and honey, or a simple Calendula based ointment can be used.

When the time comes to close the treatment site, she recommends that Turmeric be added to any healing ointment used, in order to prevent scarring, the healing salve applied thickly for a few days under a bandage/plaster, later gently rubbed into treatment area and surrounding tissue.

The Homeopathic remedy Hydrastis candensis can also be used in the healing stage, 3 or 4 times a day for a week.

Her recipe for a gentler enucleating paste than Bloodroot based black salves is :

5oz Goldenseal
4oz Turmeric
3oz White Willow
Calendula Oil

Homeopathic Arnica montana and Apis mellifica can be added to the salve or taken orally for pain relief.

Blend ingredients and leave overnight in a yoghurt maker. Zinc Chloride can be added gradually according to how strong a paste is desired, using a dropper bottle containing a teaspoon Zinc Chloride mixed with distilled water. (Do not touch any metal object to the Zinc Chloride)

Ingrid does mention in her book that "some of the escharotics on the market are so aggressive that they will cause a reaction in healthy as well as malignant tissue This is therefore a feature of that particular escharotic so that despite clams to the contrary reactions are not a clue to malignancy or lack thereof." She says that "bloodroot is so unpredictable and inflammatory that there is no way to estimate it's potential action once applied to the skin. There may be no reaction at all or it may become so systemic that excruciating pain and fever are almost immediate" and prefers salves based on Goldenseal which she refers to as being "elegant and precise"

I guess that if you feel there is no further residue to necrotize, and are concerned about scarring, then regularly applying some healing ointments based on Turmeric, Calendula, and/or Goldenseal may be beneficial to help healing of the skin.

Best of luck with the healing process Pete.



Shiona






On Monday, December 26, 2005, at 04:56 PM, panamp...@aol.com wrote:


Thanks Raine
I am also curious about the way Cansema works.  Is it true that it only effects cancerous
skin? !My nose is now pitted, like a bad case of acne. Pete
 


Raine et al,
I am just repeating this msg as I know many are still and have been on vacation, and probably have let their 'puters rest for a few days. I am at a quandary rather to reapply Cansema to my nose, not knowing if I got most of the cancerous material.  I also wonder if the dents(pits) on the nose will ever smooth out.  Currently I have a 2nd shedding about to take place on the front top point of nose which had been purple.  I would welcome any
responses or experiences similar to mine if any.  Pete