Re: CSsmart meter
Hi Elizabeth, I'm interested. Thanks in advance, Paul - Original Message - From: Elizabeth Williams To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, October 17, 2011 1:28 PM Subject: RE: CSsmart meter There is a person on another list I am on that sells these doughnut shaped things that go around the meter that protect you from the radiation they emit, If anyone is interested I can provide a link to his online store, I am not affiliated with this person just sharing knowledge. Elizabeth Williams belzi...@hotmail.com Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2011 15:24:43 -0500 Subject: Re: CSsmart meter From: bhangcha...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com You should be able to do something like install a grounded metal shield between the meter and your house which would reduce the strength of any emission into the house. That should take care of it. Dan On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 1:28 PM, jess jessi...@optonline.net wrote: The man from the utility co just told me that the pulses from the meter travel 5 miles. he did not install it and I put a note on mine saying please do not change my meter . I got through to Edison So Cal and the rep said at this time there is no opt out. They will let me know if the California Public Utilities commission decides to allow an opt out list. Right now I am on their delay list. I am seeing lots of anti health reasons on the internet and some saying it affects privacy issues. Jess From: Elizabeth Williams Sent: Monday, October 17, 2011 11:18 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSsmart meter I knew that these meters were coming to my town because they announced it in the local city electric newsletter. I had been reading about these things for a long time now. So what I did was call my lawyer and see what I could legally do to keep them from installing it at my house. I put a note near the meter that read, Do not install a smart meter on this home and I padlocked the meter with my own lock. The lawyer told me that basically I have a right to not accept this in my town. So my lawyer has sent the city a letter stating that I dont want this smart meter. Elizabeth Williams belzi...@hotmail.com From: jessi...@optonline.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2011 10:51:35 -0700 Subject: CSsmart meter silver-list@eskimo.commailto:silver-list@eskimo.comsilver-l...@eskimo.com; is this the list that has discussed the smart meter effects? This morning a utility man knocked on the door to inform me that he was installing a smart meter on my house and the entire neighborhood. I live in southern California. I just googled and saw it can cause heart irregularity, headaches and sleep problems. The phone # he gave me to call the company is not working. I read that a homeowner refused and was charged $4k to keep an analog meter. Does anyone know about this subject? thanks, Jess -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=subscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
CSRe: Thank you to Brooks Bradley for info. on teeth//Gwlynda
Hi ZZekelink, you said.. Hi Gwlynda, The soap we are using is made from Soap nuts...The ingredients areolive oil---coconut oil--water--- saponin from soap nuts glycerine... it is a bar soap. I thought glycerine was not ideal for bar soaps that are to be used for the teeth? Paul
Re: CSCS: Liposomal encapsulating others
Does anyone have any idea how one would go about encapsulating Virgin Coconut Oil? Paul - Original Message - From: Harold MacDonald To: Silver list Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2010 7:24 PM Subject: CSCS: Liposomal encapsulating others So far I have encapsulated Vit.C as Sodium ascorbate OK. And L-Glutathione too.I am of the mind that whatever you want to encapsulate , should dissolve wholly in Distilled water ,not just float around.This is my feeling on it,I may well be wrong.Also I would not use just any water,ie,tap,etc as this is going to by-pass the normal gastric controls and go directly to the cells.If there are impurities in the raw water,it may well end up in the cells doing who knows what kind of damage. I would not risk it myself. For Serrapeptase to be effective it may have to be some-what processed in the digestive system to a certain degree. I am using it now just as a regular supplement and so far am satisfied with the results. Harold -- I am using the Free version of SPAMfighter. SPAMfighter has removed 13 of my spam emails to date. Do you have a slow PC? Try free scan!
CSVORTEX BLENDER EXPERIMENT TO STRUCTURE WATER
Dear Brooks and group, For all those who were interested in my vortex blender experiment to structure water, I want to tell you about a few changes I've made. I thought a lot about how to mimic nature with all of her streams and creeks, in a blender, and this is the only solution I've been able to come up with so far. I wanted an inexpensive way to suspend some rocks in the blender so that they would take part in vortex that is created, so I took a trip to the 99cent store, and wound purchasing a 100 percent cotton doily, about 10 inches in diameter. I bought an off white one so as to minimize the chances of there being any dye in it. It has a somewhat large enough fishnet-like weave, to allow the water to freely flow through it, and yet is small enough to contain a few of the rocks I also purchased in the store. After thoroughly washing everything, I placed about 5 or 6 of the larger rocks in the center of the doily, and then connected all the outer points together with one of those little plastic straps that are used to hold things in place. I then filled the receptacle with water, about 3/4 of the way to the top. Most blenders, and mine, have a plastic insert on top, to allow for the adding of ingredients during the blending. I inserted the top of the doily bag through this insert, and secured it with a wooden dowel or wooden spoon. Then I just turned it on (at first, I SLOWLY PULSED, to make sure nothing was going to hit). That's it. Notes: 1) Any heavy cotton, fishnet-like fabric will do, but make sure that it will contain all of the rocks, and not let one slip out when it gets wet and stretches a little (as it will). 2) Wash and rinse your fabric thoroughly to make sure there are no chemicals or dyes in it. I used soap and water, rinsed a few times, and then let it soak in an MMS solution. 3) Suspend the rocks in the fabric above the halfway point in the receptacle, because the bag will come down a bit when it gets wet, due to the heavy weight of the rocks. 4) I bought a bag rocks in the 99cent store, just to speed up things, but I think that a few rocks that are personally collected by you, from around your neighborhood, would be best. Naturally, I would also wash the rocks to clean off any chemicals, debris, dirt, moss etc. If anyone is interested, I will TRY and take some pictures tomorrow and post them. Paul Catania
CSVORTEX BLENDER EXPERIMENT TO STRUCTURE WATER
Dear Brooks and group, For all those who were interested in my vortex blender experiment to structure water, I want to tell you about a few changes I've made. I thought a lot about how to mimic nature with all of her streams and creeks, in a blender, and this is the only solution I've been able to come up with so far. I wanted an inexpensive way to suspend some rocks in the blender so that they would take part in vortex that is created, so I took a trip to the 99cent store, and wound purchasing a 100 percent cotton doily, about 10 inches in diameter. I bought an off white one so as to minimize the chances of there being any dye in it. It has a somewhat large enough fishnet-like weave, to allow the water to freely flow through it, and yet is small enough to contain a few of the rocks I also purchased in the store. After thoroughly washing everything, I placed about 5 or 6 of the larger rocks in the center of the doily, and then connected all the outer points together with one of those little plastic straps that are used to hold things in place. I then filled the receptacle with water, about 3/4 of the way to the top. Most blenders, and mine, have a plastic insert on top, to allow for the adding of ingredients during the blending. I inserted the top of the doily bag through this insert, and secured it with a wooden dowel or wooden spoon. Then I just turned it on (at first, I SLOWLY PULSED, to make sure nothing was going to hit). That's it. Notes: 1) Any heavy cotton, fishnet-like fabric will do, but make sure that it will contain all of the rocks, and not let one slip out when it gets wet and stretches a little (as it will). 2) Wash and rinse your fabric thoroughly to make sure there are no chemicals or dyes in it. I used soap and water, rinsed a few times, and then let it soak in an MMS solution. 3) Suspend the rocks in the fabric above the halfway point in the receptacle, because the bag will come down a bit when it gets wet, due to the heavy weight of the rocks. 4) I bought a bag rocks in the 99cent store, just to speed up things, but I think that a few rocks that are personally collected by you, from around your neighborhood, would be best. Naturally, I would also wash the rocks to clean off any chemicals, debris, dirt, moss etc. If anyone is interested, I will TRY and take some pictures tomorrow and post them. Paul Catania -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
CSVORTEX BLENDER EXPERIMENT TO STRUCTURE WATER
Dear Brooks and group, For all those who were interested in my vortex blender experiment to structure water, I want to tell you about a few changes I've made. I thought a lot about how to mimic nature with all of her streams and creeks, in a blender, and this is the only solution I've been able to come up with so far. I wanted an inexpensive way to suspend some rocks in the blender so that they would take part in vortex that is created, so I took a trip to the 99cent store, and wound purchasing a 100 percent cotton doily, about 10 inches in diameter. I bought an off white one so as to minimize the chances of there being any dye in it. It has a somewhat large enough fishnet-like weave, to allow the water to freely flow through it, and yet is small enough to contain a few of the rocks I also purchased in the store. After thoroughly washing everything, I placed about 5 or 6 of the larger rocks in the center of the doily, and then connected all the outer points together with one of those little plastic straps that are used to hold things in place. I then filled the receptacle with water, about 3/4 of the way to the top. Most blenders, and mine, have a plastic insert on top, to allow for the adding of ingredients during the blending. I inserted the top of the doily bag through this insert, and secured it with a wooden dowel or wooden spoon. Then I just turned it on (at first, I SLOWLY PULSED, to make sure nothing was going to hit). That's it. Notes: 1) Any heavy cotton, fishnet-like fabric will do, but make sure that it will contain all of the rocks, and not let one slip out when it gets wet and stretches a little (as it will). 2) Wash and rinse your fabric thoroughly to make sure there are no chemicals or dyes in it. I used soap and water, rinsed a few times, and then let it soak in an MMS solution. 3) Suspend the rocks in the fabric above the halfway point in the receptacle, because the bag will come down a bit when it gets wet, due to the heavy weight of the rocks. 4) I bought a bag rocks in the 99cent store, just to speed up things, but I think that a few rocks that are personally collected by you, from around your neighborhood, would be best. Naturally, I would also wash the rocks to clean off any chemicals, debris, dirt, moss etc. If anyone is interested, I will TRY and take some pictures tomorrow and post them. Paul Catania -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
CSRE:VORTEX BLENDER EXPERIMENT TO STRUCTURE WATER
Hi Dick, I posted the following on another group this morning and I think you could do the same, by watering control plants with whatever water you wish to test. (not the wine though) :o) my message... I live in Las Vegas. Not too many springs and hardly any rain. But I am going to (today) order one of those photonic structured water devices. I will then be starting with at least a somewhat better quality of water, and will do some experimenting with plants fed with 1) plain tap water from a friends house, 2) plain tap water run through the photonic structured water device in my house, and 3) both of those waters after running them through my blender device. I figure that my body should somewhat react the same way as the plants do, so I'm looking forward to the experiment. Paul -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
CSActive Hydrogen vs Negative Hydrogen Ions.
Mr. Bradley, Have your experiments with water ever taken you towards the benefits of negative hydrogen ions vs. positive hydrogen ions? Which is the better of the two? Are they both beneficial in differing ways? Can they co-exist? I would really appreciate any light you could shed on this for me, as the research of Dr. Patrick Flanagan and Drs. Volkov and Kostenko seem to contradict each other. Sincerely, Paul Catania
CSSTRUCTURED WATER, VORTEX and MEGAHYDRATE...A LITTLE LONG, BUT REALLY WORTH READING
Dear Group, Upon examination of the Photonic Structured Water unit and Patrick Flanagan's MegaHydrate, it became clear to me that both produced their results because of large amounts of Negative Hydrogen Ions. GB sent this out this morning and now, for me, there is much more confusion and many more questions manifesting themselves. Which is the correct way to go? Negative Hydrogen Ions or Positive Hydrogen Ions? If one of them is beneficial, does that mean that the other one is detrimental? Mr. Brooks Bradley, since I lack the knowledge to properly digest this information, and since I am very close to buying a Photonic Structured Water unit, can you please help us sort this all out? Sincerely, Paul Catania The following is from http://www.the7thfire.com Hydrogen+: The Key to Longevity and Wellness What causes disease to occur? Dr. Theodore A. Baroody reported that more than 2 million Americans die from physical illnesses each year, such as cardiovascular disease, cancer, respiratory diseases, diabetes and liver or kidney disease. What do these diseases have in common? In Dr. Baroody's opinion, your body was designed to be slightly alkaline - diseases are caused by and/or only thrive in a state of acidosis. The Amazing Breakthrough In 1992, Russian medical doctor and researcher, Vladimir Volkov, claims that the cause of disease and aging is the absence of Hydrogen (H proton). Dr. Volkov is head of the Laboratory of Biorhythmic Researches of the Russian National Institute of Health. He believes that illnesses have a common phase: the blood becomes acidic or acidosis occurs. Dr.Volkov believes that the acidosis is a natural, necessary healing process. He feels that there is no recovery without acidosis. The body's intelligence creates this acidosis condition in order to attempt to eliminate the toxins. Therefore, the acidosis is the main medical remedy against everything, and is prompted by the nature of the body. The majority of human diseases are accompanied by the acidation of an organism (acidosis). An acidation is carried out by the proton (hydrogen). According to Dr. Volkov, if there is no proton, then there is no acidation, and thus, no recovery. He has conducted extensive research studies using proton (hydrogen) water on both animals and people and has had incredibly positive results. What makes us age? Dr. Patrick Flanagan, a world famous health researcher, says: All the symptoms of aging are in one way or another accompanied by a slow dehydration of our vital tissues associated with free radical oxidative damage. Drs. Patrick and Gale Flanagan developed a powder containing an abundance of negative hydrogen (H-) stabilized with colloidal silica. By dissolving a capsule in water, it acquires a high antioxidant or reducing quality. The Flanagan's discovery, which has been submitted to the Nobel committee, was based on a tribe that lives in the Hunza valley in Pakistan. Not only does this tribe have average life duration of 110-120 years, they also never get sick, look young and have a much slower process of aging than that of other people. Thus, the Hunza valley has been called an oasis of youth. It was assumed that the secret of their longevity was due to the extraordinary physical properties of the local water. Based upon their research, the Flanagans made the conclusion that the structure of water has a secretââ'¬Â¹knowing which [allows us] to turn back the process of aging...The tissues of a human organism contain a large reserve of hydrogen. The depletion of this reserve with age results in the development of aging process signs...The hydrogen transport can be a missed factor in the search of the reason of the aging process... During the process of aging, the cells of our organism lose water, and a hydrogen pool, protecting the cells from [the] harmful actions of the free radicals, becomes exhausted. As a matter of fact, all researchers of the longevity phenomenon agree that the free radicals bear the responsibility for aging. We can assert, said the Flanagans, that life actually is a turnover of hydrogen, and the riddle of life is in 'the burning of hydrogen'. While the Flannagans believe that an H- product, an alkaline supplement, is important; Dr. Volkov states that the positive charges of a naked hydrogen ion, H+, which is a proton, is the strongest antioxidant. Dr. Volkov believes an acid belongs to the protons (H+) and no way to the negative ion of hydrogen (H-). Dr. Volkov believes that the fact that the most aggressive free radicals, which are the main destroyers of the cells, the hydroxyl radical [OH] and oxygen [O] radical, have a negative charge is largely ignored. The need for antioxidants is proven. In addition, according to Dr. Volkov, The basic mass of antioxidants are acids (vitamin C, lactic acid, hemoglobin acid, amino acids, fatty acids, bile acids, all endogenic acids of an organism and exogenous acids from
Re: CSRe:STRUCTURED VORTEX WATER DEVICES
Dear Jane MacRoss, The reason I asked Mr. Brooks Bradley about using tap water is because of something I read in an interview with Clayton Nolte, the inventor of the Photonic Water Structuring technology. If what we're producing with the vortex devices and, hopefully, the blender, is similar to what nature does, then aren't I correct to presume that the same would hold true here? This is reproduced from their website... Q: What kind of filter system for drinking do you recommend to use with your product? A: This is up to individual discretion. The biophoton event that occurs within the Photonic Water structuring device changes everything that is in the water. Since a natural energetic balance is restored, the water is fully able to (1) take care of itself, and (2) take care of you, meaning that it will do what mature water does; deliver life sustaining oxygen throughout the body, and remove waste products. Some people may feel more secure using a filter, but it is not necessary. Q: How long do the filters last? A: The Photonic Water structuring devices use no filters, so there is nothing to replace. The devices themselves last indefinitely. Comments anyone? Paul p.s. I don't have any ability at all in the area of dowsing. :o( - Original Message - From: Jane MacRoss highfie...@internode.on.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, September 20, 2010 6:26 AM Subject: Re: CSRe:STRUCTURED VORTEX WATER DEVICES Is your tap water free of additives? Like fluoride or chlorine? I wouldn't like either of those to become more readily available. To check its degree of structure you could dowse it. Jane -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSRe:STRUCTURED VORTEX WATER DEVICES
Hi Debbie, That IS mine. That's the one I made, but I'm not so sure if it works. That's why I asked Brooks for his opinion. Paul - Original Message - From: Deborah Gerard To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, September 20, 2010 4:00 PM Subject: Re: CSRe:STRUCTURED VORTEX WATER DEVICES Yes sir I did thank-you much, does yours look like it? Debbie -- From: paul catania squigg...@embarqmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sun, September 19, 2010 10:34:19 PM Subject: Re: CSRe:STRUCTURED VORTEX WATER DEVICES Debbie, did you get the message with the attached photos? Paul - Original Message - From: Deborah Gerard To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, September 19, 2010 5:17 PM Subject: Re: CSRe:STRUCTURED VORTEX WATER DEVICES Paul, Any chance you could post a picture? Debbie From: paul catania squigg...@embarqmail.com To: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com; crock_lakhov...@yahoogroups.com; silver-list@eskimo.com; symphonichea...@yahoogroups.com; miracle_mineral_supplem...@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sun, September 19, 2010 7:49:28 PM Subject: CSRe:STRUCTURED VORTEX WATER DEVICES Dear Brooks and group, I don't know what the inside of a vitalizer plus looks like, but after reading your suggestions, I started to play around with an old blender of mine. I took out the bottom criss-crossed blade assembly, and with a pair of pliers, made the cross shaped blades parallel so that both blades were one on top of another, facing in the same direction. I then tried to bend the ends of each up as far as I could, so as to end up with two U shaped blades, one slightly bigger than the other, on top of each other, facing in the same direction. Filling the container up with water, placing the blender on the low setting, and pulsing the lowest speed hanks, Paul
CSRe:STRUCTURED VORTEX WATER DEVICES
conclusion. I would add that we have...for years now. utilized the above-mentioned Magnet X Funnel system for treating our CS..as we pour it up after initial generation. On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 3:16 PM, paul catania squigg...@embarqmail.com wrote: Is anyone familiar with vortex structured water devices? I am really confused by how many there are, how similar they look and by how much variation there is in price. I'm including links to some of the ones I looked at. I would appreciate comments on any of the devices individually, and/or the technology as a whole. http://www.futuretechtoday.com/health/Products/Water-Products/structured-water-unit.html http://www.structuredwaterunit.com/ http://ultimatestructuredwater.com/home_unit.htm http://photonicwater.com/ Paul -- The silver-off-topic-list is a moderated forum for silver-list members to discuss topics not appropriate on the main list. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-off-topic-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe To post: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSRe:STRUCTURED VORTEX WATER DEVICES
Hi Debbie, I'm about as technologically challenged as you can get, but if my genius son will help me, I'll try. Paul - Original Message - From: Deborah Gerard To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, September 19, 2010 5:17 PM Subject: Re: CSRe:STRUCTURED VORTEX WATER DEVICES Paul, Any chance you could post a picture? Debbie -- From: paul catania squigg...@embarqmail.com To: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com; crock_lakhov...@yahoogroups.com; silver-list@eskimo.com; symphonichea...@yahoogroups.com; miracle_mineral_supplem...@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sun, September 19, 2010 7:49:28 PM Subject: CSRe:STRUCTURED VORTEX WATER DEVICES Dear Brooks and group, I don't know what the inside of a vitalizer plus looks like, but after reading your suggestions, I started to play around with an old blender of mine. I took out the bottom criss-crossed blade assembly, and with a pair of pliers, made the cross shaped blades parallel so that both blades were one on top of another, facing in the same direction. I then tried to bend the ends of each up as far as I could, so as to end up with two U shaped blades, one slightly bigger than the other, on top of each other, facing in the same direction. Filling the container up with water, placing the blender on the low setting, and pulsing the lowest speed button, produces a nice little vortex. I also placed a heavy rubber band on the outside of the receptacle to hold two of Peter Kulish's magnets, 180 degrees apart from each other. According to your research, Brooks, can this be a valid method of producing structured water? Can I use plain tap water with a pinch of Himalayan sea salt? How can I measure the quality, or lack thereof, of the water produced? Thanks, Paul - Original Message - From: Brooks Bradley bradlebro...@gmail.com To: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2010 2:11 PM Subject: Re: SOSTRUCTURED VORTEX WATER DEVICES Dear Paul, About 15 years ago, inspired by the works of Walter Schaubergerwe investigated (extensively) a number of various means for structuring ordinary tap-water. By structuring, I mean modifying the micro-particle spectrum of what is, sometimes, referred to as the crystal-structure of water. Briefly, the theory is to modify the alignment of the atomic/sub-atomic particle structure of waterfrom a random/chaotic...to an arranged linear relationship. We employed a number of different approaches, including charged electrical fields;
Re: CSRe:STRUCTURED VORTEX WATER DEVICES
Debbie, did you get the message with the attached photos? Paul - Original Message - From: Deborah Gerard To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, September 19, 2010 5:17 PM Subject: Re: CSRe:STRUCTURED VORTEX WATER DEVICES Paul, Any chance you could post a picture? Debbie -- From: paul catania squigg...@embarqmail.com To: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com; crock_lakhov...@yahoogroups.com; silver-list@eskimo.com; symphonichea...@yahoogroups.com; miracle_mineral_supplem...@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sun, September 19, 2010 7:49:28 PM Subject: CSRe:STRUCTURED VORTEX WATER DEVICES Dear Brooks and group, I don't know what the inside of a vitalizer plus looks like, but after reading your suggestions, I started to play around with an old blender of mine. I took out the bottom criss-crossed blade assembly, and with a pair of pliers, made the cross shaped blades parallel so that both blades were one on top of another, facing in the same direction. I then tried to bend the ends of each up as far as I could, so as to end up with two U shaped blades, one slightly bigger than the other, on top of each other, facing in the same direction. Filling the container up with water, placing the blender on the low setting, and pulsing the lowest speed button, produces a nice little vortex. I also placed a heavy rubber band on the outside of the receptacle to hold two of Peter Kulish's magnets, 180 degrees apart from each other. According to your research, Brooks, can this be a valid method of producing structured water? Can I use plain tap water with a pinch of Himalayan sea salt? How can I measure the quality, or lack thereof, of the water produced? Thanks, Paul - Original Message - From: Brooks Bradley bradlebro...@gmail.com To: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2010 2:11 PM Subject: Re: SOSTRUCTURED VORTEX WATER DEVICES Dear Paul, About 15 years ago, inspired by the works of Walter Schaubergerwe investigated (extensively) a number of various means for structuring ordinary tap-water. By structuring, I mean modifying the micro-particle spectrum of what is, sometimes, referred to as the crystal-structure of water. Briefly, the theory is to modify the alignment of the atomic/sub-atomic particle structure of waterfrom a random/chaotic...to an arranged linear relationship. We employed a number of different approaches, including charged electrical fields;
CSOrgonite Ordering
Please send order info to squigg...@embarqmail.com - Original Message - From: bodhisattva To: lyme_r...@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2010 5:16 PM Subject: CSot: Orgonite Ordering I just wanted to let folks know, production for this season has begun - the nice weather finally arrived. This may sound like a sales pitch, well, it really isn't, but it kind of is.. I just got hit with sticker shock, I had to order more supplies, and it set me back a small fortune. My prices are going up effective next week, and the reason for this is multiple.. 1) Chispa Pyrite out of Peru has become extinct or not mined anymore. I purchased the last 11lbs that my supplier could get. This was costly, but is enough to get me going for awhile. I will not make orgonite without pyrite in it. It works without it, but it works way better with it. 2) My Crystal Wholesaler has raised prices quite a lot. For small stones, I am paying $35.00 a pound, vs $9 a pound of previous years. Ouch! 3) Metal keeps going up, by the minute. I use a lot of copper/gold/silver, all of them are expensive. Gold is going up constantly. I'm phasing out Aluminum. 4) I changed mold sizes, so my pieces are larger than my initial pricing was factoring. 5) I didn't anticipate on using semi-precious stones, but I am, better quality stuff too. Costs are insane on these but the results are much better. So if anyone has been holding out, now might be a good time. I'm going to hold off the price increase on any orders coming in this week out of fairness for those that just placed them. But any order coming in after this coming Sunday will have the price increase. Keep in mind, many makers of this stuff are selling similar pieces in the $100-$200 per piece price range for the bigger ones. I've never had an unsatisfied customer in several years of doing this. As a bonus, any order over placed this week, gets a gold/copper/silver+jasper pendant tossed in for free ($50.00 value), and 2 extra gridders. ($6 value). If you want an order form, let me know in private email and I will send it over. Interestingly, I think this years pieces are by far the best yet. My wife rarely commends on this stuff, but saw my new big pieces, and said Wow! Those look really cool!.. In 4 years she's never said that before. Do something great for yourself, and humanity. Thanks, and back to the regularly scheduled program. (for those that already ordered, orders will start shipping out this week!)
Re: CSSweeteners , where to get Agave
Try Trader Joe's - Original Message - From: zzekel...@aol.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, February 27, 2010 3:37 PM Subject: Re: CSSweeteners , where to get Agave In a message dated 2/27/2010 4:17:11 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, kenancy2...@yahoo.com writes: Of all the alternatives to sugar, Xylitol and esp. Agave are the best ones, bar none. -Ken Bagwell Just did a search for a place to get Agave...Loads of pages !!! Does anyone know where the best place to get it is ?? I have never heard of it before...Sounds interesting.. Thanks, Lois
Re: CSSweeteners , where to get Agave
Sorry Lois, I live in Las Vegas, and Trader Joe's is a great store in the southwest part of the country. I am originally from New York, and I know that they have stores in New Jersey and also, I believe, on Long Island. http://traderjoes.findlocation.com/results.aspx?pagenbr=0resultsperpage=10search_param=r50city=newyorkstate=NYpage=Default Also, try Whole Foods, or any other halfway decent sized health food store. If all else fails, http://www.vitaminshoppe.com/search/en/query.jsp?q=agaveintsource2=maintab_selection=vitaminsx=22y=12 Hope this helps Lois, Paul - Original Message - From: zzekel...@aol.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, February 27, 2010 5:00 PM Subject: Re: CSSweeteners , where to get Agave In a message dated 2/27/2010 6:41:43 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, squigg...@embarqmail.com writes: Try Trader Joe's Never heard of Trader Joe's--Did a search--- no Trader Joe's around here in upstate NY. Lois
Re: CSOT but needed
Hi Shirley, Maybe you can find it somewhere in these two sites? http://www.generationrescue.org/binstock/091001-aluminum-increases-mercury-toxicity.htm http://vactruth.com/2009/10/06/aluminum-in-vaccines-increases-thimerosals-toxicity/ Paul Catania - Original Message - From: Shirley Reed pj20...@yahoo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, January 05, 2010 3:43 PM Subject: CSOT but needed Does anyone have the info concerning the invitro experiment in which a researcher had two 'batches' of rat neurons in different dishes. One group contained neurons from females and the other neurons from males. Thimerosal was added to each. Both groups exhibited some damage. But when aluminum hydroxide was added, the male neurons showed much greater additional damage than did the neurons from the females. This may show why males have autism occurs at a 4 to 1 ratio of males to females. I know such a thing exists, but simply cannot find it in my files. tia pj -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSSuccesses with alternative protocols
Thank you Marshall, I just forwarded this information to my daughter-in-law and we will be looking into it today. Thanks again, Paul - Original Message - From: Marshall Dudley mdud...@king-cart.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 1:36 PM Subject: Re: CSSuccesses with alternative protocols We used the extreme health brand ( http://www.extremehealthusa.com/), specifically their heart supplement formula, which is what they recommended. He has not yet finished the bottle, but the results are nothing short of dramatic. My grandson is 6 and in the 1st grade. The gave us a protocol for a child of that age which we followed. Marshall paul catania wrote: That's great news Marshall, I also have an autistic grandchild, 7 years old. Do you mind sharing exactly what brand, or type of oral chelation you used? Thank you, Paul -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSSuccesses with alternative protocols
That's great news Marshall, I also have an autistic grandchild, 7 years old. Do you mind sharing exactly what brand, or type of oral chelation you used? Thank you, Paul - Original Message - From: Marshall Dudley mdud...@king-cart.com Our family has had a number of successes with alternative protocols in the last few months. I would like to share with everyone what ailments we have successfully treated: 1. Completely got rid of high blood pressure, no longer taking drugs, with serrapeptase 2. Bluing of fingernail moons on 6 of the 10 fingers completely gone on wife, and other 4 moons much lighter with about a month of oral chelation 3. Brought fasting blood sugar back into normal range with Agaricus Blazei Extract 4. Cured my grandson of autism with oral chelation in 30 days. This was absolutely remarkable. Within one week there was significant improvement (started establishing eye contact for first time), and now 30 days later all signs of autism are gone. Unfortunately he has had to deal with this condition for the last 5 years or so. Marshall -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSGeneration Rescue Supports Desiree Jennings
Generation Rescue Supports Desiree Jennings, Washington Redskin Cheerleader Disabled by Flu Shot For Immediate Release: November 3, 2009 Los Angeles, CA: The parents of Generation Rescue, a nonprofit organization dedicated to preventing and reversing autism, wish to express their hope and prayers for the complete recovery of Desiree Jennings from the injuries she suffered after receiving a flu shot. Desiree's tragic story has become a national sensation, with multiple news stories and more than 5 million viewings of her heart-wrenching journey on YouTube. We're grateful that Ms. Jennings has had the courage to share her story with the world, and we're hopeful that even more Americans will wake up to the reality that vaccines can prevent disease, but also have side effects. For certain more sensitive individuals, and as evidenced through Desiree Jennings' experience, these side effects can sometimes be devastating. Many parents of children with autism would not be surprised to see that the vaccine makers have mounted a response to Ms. Jenning's heart-wrenching story. We've seen doctors on TV, who have never examined Ms. Jennings themselves, speculate that her injury is all in her head, a psychogenic disorder. This is an astonishing breakdown in medical ethics and reminds many of us in the autism world of the days when we were told that autism was caused by cold mothers. Today, the same denialism exists when a child recovers from autism -- the talking heads appear to pontificate that the autism must have never existed. Few Americans realize that our government maintains a Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System and a fund to pay for vaccine injury, which so far has paid out nearly $2 billion to compensate the families of the vaccine-injured, which includes more than 11,000 injuries and 1,000 deaths. Do vaccines save lives? Absolutely. Can they also cause harm? Our government certainly thinks so. According to media reports, Ms. Jennings was suffering from a medical condition known as dystonia. Contrary to reports from doctors on TV who claim that a vaccine could never cause dystonia, the condition dystonia is listed in the Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System as a possible side effect from vaccines and there are 67 reports of dystonia in the system. Any journalist could validate these 67 reports. Ms. Jennings experience, in many ways, parallels the experience of our children, who many of us watched regress into autism after the administration of multiple vaccines. Unlike our children, Ms. Jennings can speak and share her experience with the world. We have been pleased to learn that Ms. Jennings is being treated by medical doctors who are experts in dealing with vaccine injury, that her symptoms have measurably improved, and that the hopes of her family that she makes a full recovery are stronger than ever. We have no doubt that Ms. Jennings will, on a timeframe that allows for her recovery and works for her, tell her story to the world. This is Ms. Jennings' story, and we eagerly await a positive outcome. Our prayers are with her and her family. Please add yours! -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSMy adventures in Lip. Encaps. Vits.
Hello all, I wonder if anyone in the group can tell me if first mixing a paste of pharmaceutical grade Sodium Bicarbonate and Maple Syrup, and then running it through the Ultrasonic unit, would be a good way to deliver the Simoncini Protocol orally? Or would the lecithin interfere? Thanks, Paul
CSRe:CAN ANYTHING BE DONE FOR THIS POOR WOMAN?
Dear Brooks Bradley, Thank you for your kind and insightful response. I don't know for sure how much time has elapsed since this unfortunate incident occurred, but I believe she received the shot on August 23rd. Has too much time elapsed since then, or do you think she can she still recover some of her abilities? If I understood you correctly, you suspect damage similar to that which occurs with Alzheimer's, Mad Cow Disease and Parkinson's. These are all very progressive diseases and she is only twenty six years old. In your opinion, is her condition also progressive, and, if so, can this progression be slowed down or halted? You mentioned virgin coconut oil. How much VCO should be consumed daily and how would one go about encapsulating it? I assume it would be done with Lecithin granules but would the virgin coconut oil be used in place of some or all of the distilled water; and would there be any additional ingredients? Can you please offer instructions? Also, would the Botox be limited only to the muscles that are exhibiting the involuntary muscle contractions, or can it also help with her speech? Once again, given your busy schedule, I thank you for taking the time to reply. Paul Catania Dear Paul, As you may be aware, Dystonia is a VERY difficult insult to address. Mainly because conventional medical science knows very little about root causes..and LESS about effective treatment schemes. Because of the nature of the presenting symptoms (they vary in both areas of insult and severity. While we have no direct experience with this disorder, our suspicion is the majority of the actual damage is kin to that of Alzheimer'stransmissible Bovine Spongiform Encephalitis, and especially those expressing involuntary muscle contractions such as Parkinson's, etc. If, in actuality, there is some validity to our suspicions.some form of restorative influence to the disabled neurological environment, might be enhanced through supplemental introduction of beneficial organic compounds (e.g. virgin coconut oil [especially liposomal encapsulation], elevated oxygen intake, such as hyperbaric exposure, megadosing with alpha Lipoic Acid, etc. Additionally, as! an immediate and possibly helpful research measureBotox might provide some degree of relief from involuntary convulsive presentations. Botox has, in a consequential number of cases, been quite effective in relieving much of the more violent involuntary muscle contractionsin some cases providing temporary prevention of severe episodes altogether.especially convulsive components. We are, at present, conducting some research evaluations addressing short-term memory loss and Alzheimer's insultsusing virgin coconut oil as a major protocol component. Early data results are quite promising. Repair of the destroyed or highly scarred nerve tissue does not---at present---appear to be a viable option. However, protocols involving the use of Medium Chain Triglycerides, ketone bodies (especially Beta- hydroxybutyrate) and fatty acids.have been employed by Dr. Richard Veech, with very promising results. While our principal concentrations are, at present, centered on memory challengesboth short-term aberrations and general lossesit does appear that the lesions/damage presenting in these corollary disorders, are quite similar to the type manifesting in many cases characterized as dystonia. While it is counter-productive to argue against the entrenched allopathic Medicine/Drug Cartel unionit might be worthwhile to observe that prophylactic measures mitigating against viral insults, could be of much greater valuethan corrective attempts---after-the-fact. To wit: vibrant health support techniques, supports, and foodstuffs. In any case, it does appear to be true that the truly damaging eventin a majority of these various neurological challengesis the result of pathogenic activityand especially viral agents and/or rogue protein modifications. It is an intriguing consideration as to what the outcome of the young woman's case might have been---had she ingested a companion dose of EIS.simultaneously, with her flu vaccination. These comments are of a speculative nature only.but may serve to encourage MUCH CAUTION before submitting to ANY of the current vaccination programs. Sincerely, Brooks Bradley.
CSRe:CAN ANYTHING BE DONE FOR THIS POOR WOMAN?
Thanks Chuck, I had watched the videos of Dr. Newport's results with coconut oil before. Truly amazing. Paul - Original Message - From: cking...@nycap.rr.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, October 16, 2009 12:31 PM Subject: Re: CSRe:CAN ANYTHING BE DONE FOR THIS POOR WOMAN? Watch this series of videos pertaining to altzheimers treated with coconut oil: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iScs0uzQZFk Chuck -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCAN ANYTHING BE DONE FOR THIS POOR WOMAN?
Dear all, Don't know why that shortcut quit working, but it's now on you-tube here http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=woman+disabled+by+this+year's+flu+shotrls=com.microsoft:en-us:IE-SearchBoxoe=UTF-8sourceid=ie7rlz=1I7SNYC_enum=1ie=UTF-8ei=bTLXSs6wLoy0sgOm5cTDAgsa=Xoi=video_result_groupct=titleresnum=1ved=0CBcQqwQwAA# Paul Catania - Original Message - From: M. G. Devour mdev...@eskimo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2009 2:30 AM Subject: Re: CSCAN ANYTHING BE DONE FOR THIS POOR WOMAN? The direct link to the entry Paul's citing is: http://thepeopleschemist.com/blog/2009/10/14/urgent-not-so-rare-side- effects-of-flu-shot.html This will probably wrap in your mailer, so please re-assemble the parts. Mike D. [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSCAN ANYTHING BE DONE FOR THIS POOR WOMAN?
Dear group, This is slightly off topic but very relevant... http://thepeopleschemist.com/blog/ Paul
CSVitamin D3 source
Dear group, I was going to purchase some Vitamin D3 today and thought I would ask if anyone had yet tried the Vitamin Shoppe brand and could attest to its quality and effectiveness. http://www.vitaminshoppe.com/store/en/browse/sku_detail.jsp?id=VS-2714 Thanks, Paul p.s. Thanks again for all the help regarding my friend's lung and brain cancer. Unfortunately, he passed away and was buried on Sept. 17th. I think he was in the hospitals (hospital, rehab, hospice) for a total of 28 days, and it was exactly 3 weeks from his diagnosis to his death. I have never seen anything destroy a person so fast in all my life.
Re: CSLiposomal Vit. C: Ancillary Commentary
Dear Gina, Unless I'm wrong or misunderstanding, mixing the 4 tablespoons of Ascorbic Acid and 6 teaspoons of Sodium Bicarbonate into the 16 ounces of distilled water IS making the sodium ascorbate. I am by far not an expert on this, but I am starting another mix now. Perhaps others will chime in? Paul - Original Message - From: Gina Moore To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, September 13, 2009 3:17 PM Subject: RE: CSLiposomal Vit. C: Ancillary Commentary So you don't have to 'make' the sodium ascorbate first? You can do it all together? Or am I misunderstanding? Gina -- From: paul catania [mailto:squigg...@embarqmail.com] Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2009 6:37 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSLiposomal Vit. C: Ancillary Commentary DaddyBob and Group, I was having a lot of trouble in the beginning but my last 3 attempts have been successful. I bought the larger ultrasonic unit and so I placed 12 tablespoons of non-GM Lecithin granules into the blender along with 32 ounces of distilled water, and after blending, poured them into the unit. The tricky part is to then mix the 4 tablespoons of Ascorbic Acid and 6 teaspoons of Sodium Bicarbonate into the 16 ounces of distilled water without the mixture bubbling all over the place. I learned the hard way to mix it carefully by hand and to process about 1/3rd of it (first into the blender and then into the unit) at a time. I hope this helps, Paul - Original Message - From: rans...@atmc.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2009 4:11 PM Subject: RE: CSLiposomal Vit. C: Ancillary Commentary Brooks- For those of us who are already doing this with an ultrasonic unit, and we are using L-Ascorbic Acid per your original instructions, should we now convert it to sodium ascorbate prior to encapsulation? Thanks, DaddyBob
Re: CSLiposomal Vit. C: Ancillary Commentary
DaddyBob and Group, I was having a lot of trouble in the beginning but my last 3 attempts have been successful. I bought the larger ultrasonic unit and so I placed 12 tablespoons of non-GM Lecithin granules into the blender along with 32 ounces of distilled water, and after blending, poured them into the unit. The tricky part is to then mix the 4 tablespoons of Ascorbic Acid and 6 teaspoons of Sodium Bicarbonate into the 16 ounces of distilled water without the mixture bubbling all over the place. I learned the hard way to mix it carefully by hand and to process about 1/3rd of it (first into the blender and then into the unit) at a time. I hope this helps, Paul - Original Message - From: rans...@atmc.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2009 4:11 PM Subject: RE: CSLiposomal Vit. C: Ancillary Commentary Brooks- For those of us who are already doing this with an ultrasonic unit, and we are using L-Ascorbic Acid per your original instructions, should we now convert it to sodium ascorbate prior to encapsulation? Thanks, DaddyBob
Re: CSPaul's idea
Hi Shirley, I don't think the blender would work. Someone posted why, but I don't have the posting in my archives. Maybe someone else does and can re-send it? Paul - Original Message - From: Shirley Reed pj20...@yahoo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2009 12:12 PM Subject: CSPaul's idea Paul, such a list should be very valuable. It could easily prevent anyone from accidentally encapsulating something that might be undesirable to consume. Also, whatever happened to the idea of using a blender to encapsulate the Vit. C instead of the ultrasonic device??? If this works well enough it would be much easier. Probably need to get the electron microscope to check out the product. pj -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSMMS ENCAPSULATION
Dear Group, I would like to thank all of you who responded to my questions regarding encapsulation and my friend's cancers. In light of all of us who are experimenting with the Lecithin Encapsulation, I was wondering where to begin to construct a list or chart of all the vitamin/supplements that would benefit from by-passing the digestive tract through Encapsulation. I think such a list would help keep us from encapsulating substances that need to go through the digestive tract and alert us to those we are not aware that should not? Paul -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSMMS ENCAPSULATION
Thanks Sandee, He is going to try it. Someone he works with told him about it and he asked me to look into it for him yesterday. Paul -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSRe:MMS ENCAPSULATION
Dear Alan and Bob, Alan wrote. I'm pretty sure that guy doesn't sell the oil, and I'm pretty sure it's illegal. Too bad. Alan Bob wrote... Your friend might wish to consider marijuana oil as a potential cure for his cancer. It is backed by solid research. He would need to consume 60 grams over a 90 day period of the oil. Go to PhoenixTears.ca for more info and just google it as well. Watch Run from the Cure. Good luck. Bob No, he doesn't sell it to my knowledge, but it's not illegal everywhere. In some states, like mine (Nevada) you can get a permit to grow enough to make your own. But, assuming they approved his application and his reasons for it, by the time he would get the permit, grow it, and process it, he would be gone. (Dr.'s give him 3 months to live) Paul
Re: CSRe:MMS ENCAPSULATION
Hi Bob, Yes, that is my plan. I left about 3 or 4 different messages, but haven't heard back from anyone yet. http://www.thc-foundation.org/downloads/thcf-trifold-2009.pdf Paul - Original Message - From: Bob Banever To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, August 31, 2009 7:01 PM Subject: Re: CSRe:MMS ENCAPSULATION If he lived in a state that allows medical marijuana he could purchase enough of it to make his own as well. Bob - Original Message - From: paul catania To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, August 31, 2009 4:31 PM Subject: CSRe:MMS ENCAPSULATION Dear Alan and Bob, Alan wrote. I'm pretty sure that guy doesn't sell the oil, and I'm pretty sure it's illegal. Too bad. Alan Bob wrote... Your friend might wish to consider marijuana oil as a potential cure for his cancer. It is backed by solid research. He would need to consume 60 grams over a 90 day period of the oil. Go to PhoenixTears.ca for more info and just google it as well. Watch Run from the Cure. Good luck. Bob No, he doesn't sell it to my knowledge, but it's not illegal everywhere. In some states, like mine (Nevada) you can get a permit to grow enough to make your own. But, assuming they approved his application and his reasons for it, by the time he would get the permit, grow it, and process it, he would be gone. (Dr.'s give him 3 months to live) Paul
Re: CSRe:MMS ENCAPSULATION
Yes, I agree. We've been doing that and adding a drop of DMSO also. Paul - Original Message - From: arthur rambo To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, August 31, 2009 9:09 PM Subject: Re: CSRe:MMS ENCAPSULATION Since mms is an oxidizer, and lecithin is a fat, you would wind up with rancid fat. Transdermal MMS would be a better way to go. --- On Mon, 8/31/09, paul catania squigg...@embarqmail.com wrote: From: paul catania squigg...@embarqmail.com Subject: CSRe:MMS ENCAPSULATION To: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Monday, August 31, 2009, 7:31 PM Dear Alan and Bob, Alan wrote. I'm pretty sure that guy doesn't sell the oil, and I'm pretty sure it's illegal. Too bad. Alan Bob wrote... Your friend might wish to consider marijuana oil as a potential cure for his cancer. It is backed by solid research. He would need to consume 60 grams over a 90 day period of the oil. Go to PhoenixTears.ca for more info and just google it as well. Watch Run from the Cure. Good luck. Bob No, he doesn't sell it to my knowledge, but it's not illegal everywhere. In some states, like mine (Nevada) you can get a permit to grow enough to make your own. But, assuming they approved his application and his reasons for it, by the time he would get the permit, grow it, and process it, he would be gone. (Dr.'s give him 3 months to live) Paul
CSRe:MMS ENCAPSULATION
Yes, this is the way Marshall Dudley explained it, Would the MMS be encapsulated? Since you added the lemon, there is no MMS left. Instead you have a compound that breaks down over the next 12 hours and produces chlorine dioxide. That is a gas and would diffuse through any encapsulation very quickly. Paul - Original Message - From: polo To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, August 31, 2009 9:31 PM Subject: Re: CSRe:MMS ENCAPSULATION It appears to me that since MMS's medicinal action involves the formation of the gas, chlorine dioxide, that trying to encapsulate a gas is impossible. NO? doug
CSLiposomal Encapsulated C
Dear GROUP, I found this on one of my many cancer searches and this seems to accurately describe my friends dilemma. I was wondering if there is a limit as to how much Liposomal Encapsulated C can be ingested each day. Does anyone have any idea how to estimate approximately how much of the finished product he should take, and how often, in order to reach the levels reported in this report? Thank you, Paul Last resort First Aid for Advanced Cancer (or for anyone with cancer, at any stage) If the medical profession has just told you that you have a short time to live, or have an incurable cancer such as pancreatic, liver, brain or lung cancer, where conventional systemic treatment is at best only palliative, there is a remarkable therapy you can try which is relatively simple and cheap, can be done at home, without side-effects, and which a number of MDs who use it claim has saved the lives of between 60% to 70% of terminal cancer patients, and which at the very least has been shown to halt or control the spread of cancer. This therapy is high dose intravenous vitamin C. Intravenous vitamin C is not the same as oral vitamin C. By giving vitamin C intravenously doctors can achieve a blood saturation that is not at all comparable with that achieved by the oral route. The order of magnitude is something like 200%, as opposed to 2% saturation by the oral route. This very high concentration of vitamin C is critical in terms of achieving a chemotherapeutic, cytotoxic - tumour cell destruction - effect. If it is feasible to have a Hickman line put in the patient, extraordinary doses of vitamin C - anything between 50g to 100g, depending on the malignancy of the cancer, - can be self-administered at home on a daily to weekly basis over a period of months, stepping down or up in frequency according to the individual response. Otherwise this treatment can be administered on an out-patient basis, anywhere in the world. Its effects appear to be enhanced by weekly injections of large doses of vitamin B12, (hydroxycobalamin 1000 micrograms), which forms cobalt ascorbate, another benevolent non-toxic, but tumour cytotoxic, compound, or in combination with vitamin K (specifically vitamin K3, though K1 is also efficacious), and Lipoic Acid, (300mg oral, twice daily.) Lipoic Acid recycles the Vitamin C to keep the cytotoxic dose more constantly in the body for longer periods. Counter indications to this approach are few. However they include anyone with kidney failure, or on dialysis, or with uncommon forms of iron overload. Responsible physicians should also screen for red blood cell glucose-6 phosphate dehydrogenase deficiency, a rare condition whose presence can lead to haemolytic crisis involving red blood cell breakdown. The very large doses should also be built up to gradually over some days to establish good tolerance, starting at 15 grams for 1 or 2 sessions, then to 50 grams and, if necessary, to 100 grams. The exact dose is determined by the individual's plasma saturation by Vitamin C immediately after an infusion. WARNING: To avoid the well-documented Rebound Effect, which can lead to scurvy, this treatment should not be stopped abruptly. Patients should be gradually weaned off it over a period of weeks, or even months, and oral vitamin C therapy should continue indefinitely and on the days in between the IVC infusions. The American Dr Hugh Riordan M.D., who sadly died in 2005, was probably the world expert on this approach. His institute, The Center for the Improvement of Human Functioning, has completed a 10 year research project on high dose intravenous C and cancer. Orthomolecular Medicine News Service, September 22, 2005 Intravenous Vitamin C is Selectively Toxic to Cancer Cells `National Institutes of Health scientists have confirmed the concepts that vitamin C is selectively toxic to cancer cells and that tumor-toxic levels of vitamin C can be attained using intravenous administration. The article, published in the September 12, 2005 issue of the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences concluded, These findings give plausibility to intravenous ascorbic acid in cancer treatment. Scientists associated with the Bio-Communications Research Institute (BRCI) in Wichita, Kansas have published 20 scientific articles on the subject. BCRI researchers first reported in 1995 that vitamin C in sufficient amounts is selectively toxic to tumor cells. The authors concluded that tumor-toxic levels of vitamin C could be achieved only by giving the vitamin intravenously. Subsequent research from BCRI, published in the British Journal of Cancer in 2001, was the first to describe in detail the pharmacokinetics of high doses of intravenous vitamin C. It is gratifying to have our research on vitamin C and cancer confirmed by scientists at the prestigious National Institutes of Health, said Neil Riordan, Ph.D., BCRI's Research Director. The findings
CSLiposomal Encapsulated C
Dear GROUP, Please let me please rephrase that. I found this on one of my many cancer searches. I was wondering if there is a limit as to how much Liposomal Encapsulated C can be ingested each day. Does anyone have any idea how to estimate approximately how much of the finished product it would take, and how often, in order to reach the levels referred to in this report? Thank you, Paul Last resort First Aid for Advanced Cancer (or for anyone with cancer, at any stage) If the medical profession has just told you that you have a short time to live, or have an incurable cancer such as pancreatic, liver, brain or lung cancer, where conventional systemic treatment is at best only palliative, there is a remarkable therapy you can try which is relatively simple and cheap, can be done at home, without side-effects, and which a number of MDs who use it claim has saved the lives of between 60% to 70% of terminal cancer patients, and which at the very least has been shown to halt or control the spread of cancer. This therapy is high dose intravenous vitamin C. Intravenous vitamin C is not the same as oral vitamin C. By giving vitamin C intravenously doctors can achieve a blood saturation that is not at all comparable with that achieved by the oral route. The order of magnitude is something like 200%, as opposed to 2% saturation by the oral route. This very high concentration of vitamin C is critical in terms of achieving a chemotherapeutic, cytotoxic - tumour cell destruction - effect. If it is feasible to have a Hickman line put in the patient, extraordinary doses of vitamin C - anything between 50g to 100g, depending on the malignancy of the cancer, - can be self-administered at home on a daily to weekly basis over a period of months, stepping down or up in frequency according to the individual response. Otherwise this treatment can be administered on an out-patient basis, anywhere in the world. Its effects appear to be enhanced by weekly injections of large doses of vitamin B12, (hydroxycobalamin 1000 micrograms), which forms cobalt ascorbate, another benevolent non-toxic, but tumour cytotoxic, compound, or in combination with vitamin K (specifically vitamin K3, though K1 is also efficacious), and Lipoic Acid, (300mg oral, twice daily.) Lipoic Acid recycles the Vitamin C to keep the cytotoxic dose more constantly in the body for longer periods. Counter indications to this approach are few. However they include anyone with kidney failure, or on dialysis, or with uncommon forms of iron overload. Responsible physicians should also screen for red blood cell glucose-6 phosphate dehydrogenase deficiency, a rare condition whose presence can lead to haemolytic crisis involving red blood cell breakdown. The very large doses should also be built up to gradually over some days to establish good tolerance, starting at 15 grams for 1 or 2 sessions, then to 50 grams and, if necessary, to 100 grams. The exact dose is determined by the individual's plasma saturation by Vitamin C immediately after an infusion. WARNING: To avoid the well-documented Rebound Effect, which can lead to scurvy, this treatment should not be stopped abruptly. Patients should be gradually weaned off it over a period of weeks, or even months, and oral vitamin C therapy should continue indefinitely and on the days in between the IVC infusions. The American Dr Hugh Riordan M.D., who sadly died in 2005, was probably the world expert on this approach. His institute, The Center for the Improvement of Human Functioning, has completed a 10 year research project on high dose intravenous C and cancer. Orthomolecular Medicine News Service, September 22, 2005 Intravenous Vitamin C is Selectively Toxic to Cancer Cells `National Institutes of Health scientists have confirmed the concepts that vitamin C is selectively toxic to cancer cells and that tumor-toxic levels of vitamin C can be attained using intravenous administration. The article, published in the September 12, 2005 issue of the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences concluded, These findings give plausibility to intravenous ascorbic acid in cancer treatment. Scientists associated with the Bio-Communications Research Institute (BRCI) in Wichita, Kansas have published 20 scientific articles on the subject. BCRI researchers first reported in 1995 that vitamin C in sufficient amounts is selectively toxic to tumor cells. The authors concluded that tumor-toxic levels of vitamin C could be achieved only by giving the vitamin intravenously. Subsequent research from BCRI, published in the British Journal of Cancer in 2001, was the first to describe in detail the pharmacokinetics of high doses of intravenous vitamin C. It is gratifying to have our research on vitamin C and cancer confirmed by scientists at the prestigious National Institutes of Health, said Neil Riordan, Ph.D., BCRI's Research Director. The findings reinforce our goal
Re: CSMMS ENCAPSULATION
Thanks Bob, I'll check it out now. Paul - Original Message - From: Bob Banever bbane...@earthlink.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2009 5:54 PM Subject: Re: CSMMS ENCAPSULATION Paul, Your friend might wish to consider marijuana oil as a potential cure for his cancer. It is backed by solid research. He would need to consume 60 grams over a 90 day period of the oil. Go to PhoenixTears.ca for more info and just google it as well. Watch Run from the Cure. Good luck. Bob -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: [RE]CSUsing Liposomol Encapsulated Vit. C
I have an issue similar to Lin's. I've been using Vitamin C crystals from Trader Joe's. (as Ascorbic Acid) I'm assuming that in the future, I would add the sodium bicarbonate (to the 1 tablespoon of Ascorbic Acid dissolved in the 4 ounces of distilled water)BEFORE placing it into the Ultrasonic Cleaner (along with the 3 tablespoons of Lecithin granules dissolved in the 8 ounces of distilled water)? This would then encapsulate sodium ascorbate as opposed to encapsulating ascorbic acid? Or can this only be changed to sodium ascorbate AFTER the protocol has been performed? Paul - Original Message - From: Brooks Bradley To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2009 10:17 AM Subject: [RE]CSUsing Liposomol Encapsulated Vit. C Dear Lin, If, for any reason, beyond compromising contamination, you decline to use your home made encapsulation product for personal applicationsI would counsel a simple modification. By just adding a 1/2 level teaspoon of sodium bicarbonate to every 4 ounces of concentrate (undiluted product of your protocol), one can insure a high level of conversion from ascorbic acid to sodium ascorbate..and achieve the advantages. Additionally, the lecithin (both the encapsulate and the isolated fraction portions) is quite effective as a cardiovascular support agent (has demonstrated to independently display quite powerful plaque removal effects in the arterial portion of the system). As long ago as 1982 (before our Foundation existed) my personal researches had demonstrated this remarkable property. For topical applications, I see no evident advantages to using encapsulated vitamin C... provided one is using a DMSO companion to your normal CS solution. Nebulizing CS is, indeed, a useful adjunctive protocol (especially when including a 10% DMSO companion.) I must go now, hence am unable to continue this post. I hope these comments have been vo some value. Sincerely, Brooks Bradley -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : CSUsing Liposomol Encapsulated Vit. C Date : Sat, 29 Aug 2009 09:23:04 -0700 From : jlgregel jlgre...@hctc.com To : silver-list@eskimo.com Looks like I have a successful batch of Lip.Encap. C. Very little foaming when tested. Took 3 tries, but using the shaking of the lethicin in a jar rather than stirring seemed to do the trick. I haven't read any posts about how to tell when the batch might no longer be any good. Posts said, on a shelf it will keep a few days, in the fridge much longer. How do we tell when it's time to start with a new batch? Someone mentioned hesitation on mixing this with CS. Any further thoughts on that? Does anyone have any suggestions on using this topically? We make cs soap for troubled skin and are curious if there would be added benefits adding this vit c to that, or using in other topical ways. Also, I'm part of a feline shelter and hope that this will be helpful with healing there. Several receive nebulizing treatments each day. Might it help to nebulize the c? Last question... When we make a batch that is low on encapsulating...is there anything useful to do with that batch? I hate to throw this stuff out. Thank you, Lin -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
CSMMS ENCAPSULATION
Hello all, I'd like to throw out an idea to all of you and would appreciate any and all feed-back. I recently posted about a friend of mine being diagnosed (3 days ago) with Lung and Brain cancer, which is now spreading. Dr.'s say he is beyond Chemo but they are going to try radiation to shrink the brain tumors in order to restore functionality to his right leg (which is numb and he cannot move). I was thinking of MMS, but I know he is not the best patient and so I was wondering if it would be feasable or even possible to do the following: 1) Disolve 12 tablespoons of lecithin granules in 60 ounces of distilled water. 2) Activate 150 drops of MMS with the juice of a whole lemon, in the usual 3 minute way, then add 4 ounces of water to the activated MMS. 3) Pour both solutions into the large UC and run for six 2-minute cycles. 4) Add 4 drops of DMSO either before encapsulation, or after? Would the MMS be encapsulated? And, if so, would the side effects from the MMS be diminished or nullified? Would the addition of the DMSO intensify the benefits, or might it form detrimental compounds (in other words, should I leave it out, to be on the safe side)? I realize that this is all speculation, but I wanted to brainstorm in order to best give my friend at least a fighting chance. Thanks, Paul p.s. I was thinking maybe 6 ounces in the a.m. and 6 ounces in the p.m.?
Re:CSMMS ENCAPSULATION: COMMENT
Dear Brooks Bradley, Thank you so much for your kind concern and good wishes. I will definitely look into Dr Simoncini's protocols. I just got back from the hospital and the Dr.'s give him 2 to 3 months, so time is not on his side. Sincerely, Paul Catania - Original Message - From: Brooks Bradley To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 11:30 AM Subject: [RE]CSMMS ENCAPSULATION: COMMENT Dear Paul, Your anxiety over your friend's well-being is understandable. and commendable.I extend my bestgenuinely heartfelt, wishes for his complete recovery. I have a suggestion which might prove to be of genuine value in your searches for effective modalities for his presenting carcinoma. My personal investigations of Dr. Tullio Simoncini have resulted in an INCREASING respect for his demonstrated results.and the freedom from any, detectable, toxic/debilitating side-effects resulting from his basic protocol address. Naturally, the allopathic community, following the urgings of the reigning Pharmaceutical Interests'.has studiously, avoided giving any measurable credence to Dr. Simoncini's very COMPELLING results, achieved over the immediately-past 15 years. It appears self-evident that there is little incentive for them to espouse a protocol (at least among the conventional medical environments) which appears both effective AND ASTONISHINGLY ECONOMICAL. A most interesting characteristic of Dr. Simoncini's protocol is that...in many casesthe afflicted person can APPLY THE PROTOCOL TO THEMSELVESat home. The spectrum of effectiveness (most carcinomas) seems to be exceptionally encompassing. Based upon the possibility you may have some interest in Dr. Simoncini's methodology.I am sending you the url for his website via a separate email (this because, many times, mail systems see, particular urls as Spam). I encourage you to view the U-tube videos on the site. Sincerely, Brooks Bradley. p.s. I am NOT recommending any treatment or approach as better than any otheror even to be effective. My goal is, simply, to encourage vigorous, independent research...especially considering the POWERFUL EFFORTS expended to prevent the general public informing themselves of possible protocols for delivering them from devastatingeven terminalcircumstances. -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : CSMMS ENCAPSULATION Date : Fri, 28 Aug 2009 10:37:08 -0700 From : paul catania squigg...@embarqmail.com To : silver-list@eskimo.com Hello all, I'd like to throw out an idea to all of you and would appreciate any and all feed-back. I recently posted about a friend of mine being diagnosed (3 days ago) with Lung and Brain cancer, which is now spreading. Dr.'s say he is beyond Chemo but they are going to try radiation to shrink the brain tumors in order to restore functionality to his right leg (which is numb and he cannot move). I was thinking of MMS, but I know he is not the best patient and so I was wondering if it would be feasable or even possible to do the following: 1) Disolve 12 tablespoons of lecithin granules in 60 ounces of distilled water. 2) Activate 150 drops of MMS with the juice of a whole lemon, in the usual 3 minute way, then add 4 ounces of water to the activated MMS. 3) Pour both solutions into the large UC and run for six 2-minute cycles. 4) Add 4 drops of DMSO either before encapsulation, or after? Would the MMS be encapsulated? And, if so, would the side effects from the MMS be diminished or nullified? Would the addition of the DMSO intensify the benefits, or might it form detrimental compounds (in other words, should I leave it out, to be on the safe side)? I realize that this is all speculation, but I wanted to brainstorm in order to best give my friend at least a fighting chance. Thanks, Paul p.s. I was thinking maybe 6 ounces in the a.m. and 6 ounces in the p.m.? -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CSMMS ENCAPSULATION
Thank you Marshall, I was looking to circumvent the MMS side effects, but I guess that can't happen. Paul - Original Message - From: Marshall Dudley mdud...@king-cart.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 12:16 PM Subject: Re: CSMMS ENCAPSULATION paul catania wrote: Hello all, I'd like to throw out an idea to all of you and would appreciate any and all feed-back. I recently posted about a friend of mine being diagnosed (3 days ago) with Lung and Brain cancer, which is now spreading. Dr.'s say he is beyond Chemo but they are going to try radiation to shrink the brain tumors in order to restore functionality to his right leg (which is numb and he cannot move). I was thinking of MMS, but I know he is not the best patient and so I was wondering if it would be feasable or even possible to do the following: 1) Disolve 12 tablespoons of lecithin granules in 60 ounces of distilled water. 2) Activate 150 drops of MMS with the juice of a whole lemon, in the usual 3 minute way, then add 4 ounces of water to the activated MMS. 3) Pour both solutions into the large UC and run for six 2-minute cycles. 4) Add 4 drops of DMSO either before encapsulation, or after? Would the MMS be encapsulated? Since you added the lemon, there is no MMS left. Instead you have a compound that breaks down over the next 12 hours and produces chlorine dioxide. That is a gas and would diffuse through any encapsulation very quickly. And, if so, would the side effects from the MMS be diminished or nullified? If you took it immediately after making, the effects would be dimished, since the chlorine dioxide would be encapsulated initially. I would expect it to behave more like unactivated MMS. I am not sure if the side effects would be changed or not. Would the addition of the DMSO intensify the benefits, or might it form detrimental compounds (in other words, should I leave it out, to be on the safe side)? Don't know. Marshall I realize that this is all speculation, but I wanted to brainstorm in order to best give my friend at least a fighting chance. Thanks, Paul p.s. I was thinking maybe 6 ounces in the a.m. and 6 ounces in the p.m.? -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSdirections for testing Lip.Encap. C
Hi Lin, Try this page http://pdazzler.com/2009/08/11/make-your-own-liposomal-encapsulated-vitamin-c/ As far as the tooth soap...I have used Dr Bonner's Magic Castile soap...I like the peppermint flavor best. I don't know if it's the same but it's awful cheap compared to the toothsoap, especially if you buy it at Trader Joe's. The large bottle lasts forever. Paul Catania - Original Message - From: jlgregel To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 6:06 AM Subject: Re: CSdirections for testing Lip.Encap. C Would someone please repost Brooks post explaining how to test the Liposomal Encapsulated C, that many of us are making? Thanks..Lin - Original Message - From: arthur rambo To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: 2009-08-27 02:21 Subject: Re: CSLiposomal Encapsulation LivonLabs uses grain alchohol as 12% of the solution in their liposomal c. That solvent might be the key. However, I want to avoid alchohol. I am not having success with the USC either. Maybe a tiny bit is encapsulated, but not the desired amount. Maybe the lecithin should -not- be disolved prior to adding. Seems like if the lecithin is saturated with water already, it can't uptake any more. Perhaps a higher concentrated mixture of sodium ascorbate in water would help. I've read that vitamin c has a large molecule. This was mentioned in a thread where someone was suggesting to mix C with DMSO to use on skin cancer. I used this mix on a couple suspicious spots that did respond; don't know if it was the c, dmso, or both. --- On Thu, 8/27/09, paul catania squigg...@embarqmail.com wrote: From: paul catania squigg...@embarqmail.com Subject: Re: CSLiposomal Encapsulation To: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Thursday, August 27, 2009, 1:08 AM Thank you Gail, Steve, Lin and all. I'm sorry that no one seems to be successful at this, but I'm glad that we are all trying and talking about it. I'm sure that if we all keep experimenting and keep the dialogue going, we can and will become more proficient at this. Paul p.s. A very close friend of mine, that I grew up with, was today diagnosed with stage-4 lung and brain cancer. I hope I can get this process working and I hope that he will be open enough to give it a try. - Original Message - From: Gail Rice gail.r...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 6:54 PM Subject: Re: CSLiposomal Encapsulation Paul, I also made a batch of unencapsulated vitimin C. I have reread the suggested protocol and am sure I didn't vary any step except that my machine cycled for two 3min cycles instead of three 2min cycles.. I did use distilled water. I made sure all equipment was clean and dry before I began. I used a new pkg. of lecithin granules. They dissolved well into the water after several minutes. I used new ascorbic acid and it also disolved well into its water. I combined them in a brand new clean U S cleaner. (stirred slowly w/straw) When I tested a 4 oz sample in a 12 oz tumbler, it foamed like mad (about 2 inches). I tried re-running the U S cleaner on the remaining solution - still no noticable encapsulation. I wondered if there was a problem with my U S cleaner or one of the ingredients. Tonight I will try again with a different ultrasonic cleaner. If that fails, I will try a new package of lecithin. If that fails, I'll have to try new vitamin C. If I succeed at any point, I will inform you with details. Gail -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com start: -00-00 end: -00-00
Re: CSLiposomal Encapsulation
Thank you Dee...I've watched far too many friends and relatives check into hospitals and not get positive results they expected or were promised. I pray this has a different outcome. Paul - Original Message - From: Dorothy Fitzpatrick To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 3:17 AM Subject: Re: CSLiposomal Encapsulation I wish him all the best Paul. dee On 27 Aug 2009, at 06:08, paul catania wrote: Thank you Gail, Steve, Lin and all. I'm sorry that no one seems to be successful at this, but I'm glad that we are all trying and talking about it. I'm sure that if we all keep experimenting and keep the dialogue going, we can and will become more proficient at this. Paul p.s. A very close friend of mine, that I grew up with, was today diagnosed with stage-4 lung and brain cancer. I hope I can get this process working and I hope that he will be open enough to give it a try.
Re: CSIMPORTANT COMMENT; Liposomal Encapsulation
Gail, Do you have the smaller UC or the larger? Also, how much did you fill up the tank, in reference to the max and min lines? Paul - Original Message - From: Gail Rice To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 10:45 AM Subject: Re: CSIMPORTANT COMMENT; Liposomal Encapsulation I tried the protocol again - this time with a new Ultrasonic cleaner. It worked beautifully! There was no visible separation after sitting overnight. I did the baking soda test because I hadn't read Brooks's email yet and just by luck, it barely foamed at all, so I was satisfied and drank it immediately. I repeated the protocol (after reading this newer post) in the original ultrasonic cleaner but sure enough, although the mixture looked encouragingly milky, it began to separate within a minute and by about 10 minutes has a thick dark yellow layer on the bottom. So, I don't know why this first U S cleaner does less well, but it does. So, I'll use the replacement cleaner and make the excellent encapsulated Vitamin C. I don't understand how these machines actually work or why this would happen. -Gail
CSLiposomal Encapsulation
Dear group, I don't know how many of you tried this yet but I did, and I hope some of you can learn from my mistakes. I bought the larger Ultrasonic cleaner and had to almost triple the amounts, so as to be over the min and closer to the max readings (as per Brooks Bradley's post) on the 2.5 liter tank. I'm going to tell you how it came out first, and then backtrack to see if I can zero in on any possible mistakes. After the process I placed 4 ounces of the finished product in a 12 oz glass, then I separately mixed 1 ounce of water with a 1/4 teaspoon of sodium bicarbonate. After 10 seconds stirring, I mixed the two as per instructions and the foam measured 6 inches. Yes, you read that right, 6 inches. So I guess that NONE of the Vit C was encapsulated. :o( POSSIBLE MISTAKES 1) I couldn't find any distilled water except in the cloudy plastic gallons and so I used smart water, which comes in a clear plastic,1 liter size bottle from Walmart. Could the addition of the Electrolytes in the smart water have messed things up? 2) I ran the machine for 2 min, 3 min, and then 3 min again...for a total of 8 minutes. Too long? Or not long enough? due to the increase of the amounts of the ingredients in order to accommodate the 2.5 liter tank that comes with the bigger unit? 3) If this is indeed not encapsulated properly, can the entire mixture be re-run through the UC? or must it be discarded and re-started? I hope this helps some of you who haven't yet experimented and I hope that some of you who have can help me figure out what went wrong. Thanks, Paul - Original Message - From: Dan Nave bhangcha...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2009 7:28 PM Subject: Re: CSLiposomal Encapsulation I'm certainly not an expert on this, but since I want to comment on #4, I may as well comment on the rest... , 1. We do know that they are encapsulating glutathione, GSH, using this technique. 2. Yes, it is the Lecithin that encapsulates the Vitamin C. 3. Other water soluble or colloidal substances might be able to be encapsulated. Mixing Vitamin C with colloidal silver may make a silver compound; I don't know if that is desirable. 4. It might be interesting to mix colloidal silver with the Lecithin and encapsulate it. I would suggest the CS that we make, with H2O2 added afterwards so that there would be a fairly even amount of both ionic and colloidal particles. At least, one wouldn't expect the colloidal portion to combine with the lecithin. Maybe the ultrasonics would cause the colloidal particles to drop out of suspension, or something. If it works, it should deliver the CS to the liver which may be good for Hepatitis C. Just speculating here, of course... Dan -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSLiposomal Encapsulation
Thank you Gail, Steve, Lin and all. I'm sorry that no one seems to be successful at this, but I'm glad that we are all trying and talking about it. I'm sure that if we all keep experimenting and keep the dialogue going, we can and will become more proficient at this. Paul p.s. A very close friend of mine, that I grew up with, was today diagnosed with stage-4 lung and brain cancer. I hope I can get this process working and I hope that he will be open enough to give it a try. - Original Message - From: Gail Rice gail.r...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 6:54 PM Subject: Re: CSLiposomal Encapsulation Paul, I also made a batch of unencapsulated vitimin C. I have reread the suggested protocol and am sure I didn't vary any step except that my machine cycled for two 3min cycles instead of three 2min cycles.. I did use distilled water. I made sure all equipment was clean and dry before I began. I used a new pkg. of lecithin granules. They dissolved well into the water after several minutes. I used new ascorbic acid and it also disolved well into its water. I combined them in a brand new clean U S cleaner. (stirred slowly w/straw) When I tested a 4 oz sample in a 12 oz tumbler, it foamed like mad (about 2 inches). I tried re-running the U S cleaner on the remaining solution - still no noticable encapsulation. I wondered if there was a problem with my U S cleaner or one of the ingredients. Tonight I will try again with a different ultrasonic cleaner. If that fails, I will try a new package of lecithin. If that fails, I'll have to try new vitamin C. If I succeed at any point, I will inform you with details. Gail -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSLiposomal Encapsulation
Hello Group. My name is Paul Catania and I just joined the silverlist because I heard about Liposomal Encapsulation through the MMS group. I have been following all the posts about the Homemade Liposomal C and have searched all over to find out as much as I can about this process, but haven't had much luck. I already have Dr. Milne's book and bought an Ultrasonic cleaner, some non-GMO Lecithin, and some Vitamin C crystals, but would like some hands-on DIY information. 1) Is there any information out there about what other types of vitamins and/or foods that can be processed in this manner? 2) Is it the Lecithin that encapsulates the vitamin C? 3) Can something other than vitamin C be substituted for it? What if you dissolved the vitamin C and the Lecithin granules in colloidal silver instead of distilled water? Would that affect the process positively or negatively? 4) If you left out the vitamin C and only dissolved the Lecithin in colloidal silver, would the colloidal silver then be encapsulated? As you can see, I haven't quite grasped all this yet, so any information at all will be greatly appreciated. If these questions have already been asked, please forgive me and point me in the direction of their answers. Sincerely, Paul Catania
Re: CSLiposomal Encapsulation
Thanks Dave, Wow, this subject is fascinating. So in the case of the encapsulated glutathione, is the glutathione a substitute for the Vitamin C or is Vitamin C still part of the equation? Think about substances like Iodine and what this could do for those who are deficient. And what about Autism and heavy metal chelation? The possibilities are limitless and mind boggling. Paul - Original Message - From: Dan Nave bhangcha...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2009 7:28 PM Subject: Re: CSLiposomal Encapsulation I'm certainly not an expert on this, but since I want to comment on #4, I may as well comment on the rest... , 1. We do know that they are encapsulating glutathione, GSH, using this technique. 2. Yes, it is the Lecithin that encapsulates the Vitamin C. 3. Other water soluble or colloidal substances might be able to be encapsulated. Mixing Vitamin C with colloidal silver may make a silver compound; I don't know if that is desirable. 4. It might be interesting to mix colloidal silver with the Lecithin and encapsulate it. I would suggest the CS that we make, with H2O2 added afterwards so that there would be a fairly even amount of both ionic and colloidal particles. At least, one wouldn't expect the colloidal portion to combine with the lecithin. Maybe the ultrasonics would cause the colloidal particles to drop out of suspension, or something. If it works, it should deliver the CS to the liver which may be good for Hepatitis C. Just speculating here, of course... Dan On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 6:28 PM, paul cataniasquigg...@embarqmail.com wrote: Hello Group. My name is Paul Catania and I just joined the silverlist because I heard about Liposomal Encapsulation through the MMS group. I have been following all the posts about the Homemade Liposomal C and have searched all over to find out as much as I can about this process, but haven't had much luck. I already have Dr. Milne's book and bought an Ultrasonic cleaner, some non-GMO Lecithin, and some Vitamin C crystals, but would like some hands-on DIY information. 1) Is there any information out there about what other types of vitamins and/or foods that can be processed in this manner? 2) Is it the Lecithin that encapsulates the vitamin C? 3) Can something other than vitamin C be substituted for it? What if you dissolved the vitamin C and the Lecithin granules in colloidal silver instead of distilled water? Would that affect the process positively or negatively? 4) If you left out the vitamin C and only dissolved the Lecithin in colloidal silver, would the colloidal silver then be encapsulated? As you can see, I haven't quite grasped all this yet, so any information at all will be greatly appreciated. If these questions have already been asked, please forgive me and point me in the direction of their answers. Sincerely, Paul Catania -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
