CS>Magnetic Pulser

[Terry Chamberlin]

Debbir said,
>Terry can I ask where you bought your Magnetic Pulser
from <

I am a retail outlet for SOTA Instruments
(www.sotainstruments.com) who makes these devices.
I sell their devices a bit cheaper than they do, plus
I can answer questions (they can't - "Health" Canada
watches them like a hawk).

Contact me directly if you want info about prices,
etc.

Terry Chamberlin, B.Sc., C.N.C., Bioanalyst
Metabolic Solutions Institute
Lawrencetown, Nova Scotia B0S 1M0 Canada
902-584-3810
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CS>Magnetic Pulser

[Robb Allen]

For anyone who has thought about building a magnetic pulser using the small 
party strobe from radio shack, that particular strobe light has just been 
discontinued.  Radio shack still has some and can probably still order them 
for youthey are now priced at 10.97 instead of 35.00..so the price  has 
never been better for this project.  There is other special instructions in the 
archives from Brooks Bradley at 
http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/m42428.html
The fuller set of instructions is at:
http://www.royalrife.com/superthumpy.html
I am currently planning to build 3 for myself and friends.Robb

CS> Magnetic pulser

[Peter Rebaudo]

Peter wrote:

--The capacitors were 330 VDC, 600uF, 450 VDC, 600uF
Mike Wrote:

--What do you mean by capacitors? I only replaced one, and that with a 
single component.


There is one capacitor per machine. The two about mentioned caps belong 
to different models of commercial pulsers.


Regards
Perer R


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CS>Magnetic Pulser

[Robb Allen]

Mike.I hate to keep this subject goingbut I"ve hit a snag..the 
instructions don't tell you which leads to connect your coil 
to...?..they are very vague...it says:

I made sure the
capacitor was discharged, and cut the wire leading to one end of
the flash tube, leaving enough length on each end to attach the 4
feet of 16 gauge speaker wire that goes to the coil.  The coil is
MCM part number 50-940.  It is important to cut a wire leading to
an end, not the middle of the flash tube.

Which ones go to the coil?which is negative?.which is negative on the 
coil?.sorry..but thanksRobb

CS>Magnetic Pulser

[Alvin Rose]

Hi Listers
Check out the High Power Magnetic Pulser
available at http://www.rtvc-2000.com/magpulse.htm
also lots of info links on alternative health protocols


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Re: CS>Magnetic Pulser

[debbiegerard99]

thanksdebbie

-- Original message -- 
From: Terry Chamberlin  

> Debbir said, 
> >Terry can I ask where you bought your Magnetic Pulser 
> from < 
> 
> I am a retail outlet for SOTA Instruments 
> (www.sotainstruments.com) who makes these devices. 
> I sell their devices a bit cheaper than they do, plus 
> I can answer questions (they can't - "Health" Canada 
> watches them like a hawk). 
> 
> Contact me directly if you want info about prices, 
> etc. 
> 
> Terry Chamberlin, B.Sc., C.N.C., Bioanalyst 
> Metabolic Solutions Institute 
> Lawrencetown, Nova Scotia B0S 1M0 Canada 
> 902-584-3810 
> msi...@yahoo.com 
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CS>Magnetic pulser group

[Terry Chamberlin]

I was a member of the magnetic-pulser list, which
became the power-pulser list. Yahoo says there is no
such thing as either group now.

Does anyone know what is going on? I am building a
large magnetic pulser and have all the parts, but need
some info. There were photos, etc., I wanted to
reference, but no groups to access. Help.

Terry Chamberlin

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CS>Magnetic pulser group

[oldgl...@bigcountry.net]

Hi Terry,

Check out this Google website to see if this might be of help.

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=ISO-8859-1&q=Magnetic-Pulser+internet+
list&btnG=Google+Search

Jean Baugh

**

> I was a member of the magnetic-pulser list, which
> became the power-pulser list. Yahoo says there is no
> such thing as either group now.
> 
> Does anyone know what is going on? I am building a
> large magnetic pulser and have all the parts, but need
> some info. There were photos, etc., I wanted to
> reference, but no groups to access. Help.
> 
> Terry Chamberlin
>


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Re: CS>Magnetic Pulser

[M. G. Devour]

> For anyone who has thought about building a magnetic pulser using the
> small party strobe from radio shack, that particular strobe light has
> just been discontinued.  Radio shack still has some and can probably
> still order them for youthey are now priced at 10.97 instead of
> 35.00..so the price  has never been better for this project.  There
> is other special instructions in the archives from Brooks Bradley at
> http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/m42428.html The fuller set of
> instructions is at: http://www.royalrife.com/superthumpy.html I am
> currently planning to build 3 for myself and friends.Robb

I recently finished modifying exactly that unit. It ends up being a 
pretty sweet little package, with an extra cable coming out of the back 
panel above the line cord and a on-off-momentary spdt switch next to 
the pulse rate control that lets me put it in auto mode *or* manually 
trigger it.

I substituted a 270 uF 400 and something volt cap, which seems to work, 
but I am concerned that I am not getting the power I should.

The "washer test" with a 1/4" ID common washer barely bobbles the 
thing. There is a small thump in the coil when it pulses and the flash 
tube seems to be very bright and the flash rather prolonged, when you 
consider that most of the power is *supposed* to be dumped into the 
coil.

I wonder if I have a short in the coil? The resistance is about right, 
but I can't be sure otherwise. Is there any better way to test it?

Thanks, all, and my apologies for the OT digression.

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Re: CS>Magnetic Pulser

[M. G. Devour]

> The "washer test" with a 1/4" ID common washer barely bobbles the 
> thing.

Following up my own post, I just tried something I'd been meaning to 
do. I find that a #8 flat washer does jump a little more than a foot in 
the air when placed just off center of the coil face. This is 
definitely the kind of behavior Beck and others describe.   

I just wonder if they were not very clear of what size washer they were 
using and this is the way the test is supposed to go?

Be well,

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Re: CS>Magnetic Pulser

[M. G. Devour]

> Mike
> This is sorta the same things I was wondering too..how to test it
> afterwards.I won't be assembling mine until friday.I
> wondering.did you wind your own coil?or did you buy
> one?.thanksRobb

Yup, I wound my own. Found an online source for 14 gauge magnet wire 
and bought about 400 feet of it for 35 bucks (I think...). 

I actually made up my coil form from disks cut from styrene sheets from 
the hobby store and a short piece of PVC water pipe. Now that I've done 
it, I can honestly say it's probably not worth the bother compared to 
using the scavenged VHS tape reel they suggest using. 

It also is definitely necessary to cut out some plywood disks to 
sandwich the coil form between while you're winding it. Otherwise the 
sides of the form start to spread. Ugly.

As for a testing, a regular 1/4" ID flat washer hops an inch or two, 
and a #8 flat washer jumps a foot, when you place it just off the 
center of the coil. I'm beginning to believe it's working like it's 
supposed to, but would like to hear from somebody else.

Did you find a capacitor of the appropriate value and voltage, and of a 
size that will fit in the case?

Probably I should hit one of the other mailing lists where folks talk 
about this more. Any suggestions folks?

Be well,

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Re: CS>Magnetic Pulser

[Robb Allen]

Mike
This is sorta the same things I was wondering too..how to test it
afterwards.I won't be assembling mine until friday.I
wondering.did you wind your own coil?or did you buy
one?.thanksRobb


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Subject: Re: CS>Magnetic Pulser


> > The "washer test" with a 1/4" ID common washer barely bobbles the
> > thing.
>
> Following up my own post, I just tried something I'd been meaning to
> do. I find that a #8 flat washer does jump a little more than a foot in
> the air when placed just off center of the coil face. This is
> definitely the kind of behavior Beck and others describe.
>
> I just wonder if they were not very clear of what size washer they were
> using and this is the way the test is supposed to go?
>
> Be well,
>
> Mike D.
>
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Re: CS>Magnetic Pulser

[Malcolm Stebbins]

Hi Mike, offhand I'd guess the rather long flash time indicates not less 
resistance, but more - or perhaps more impedance would be closer, since 
it's possible that the coil or some other part of the circuit (capacitor?) 
has a reactance to rapid discharge.  Check the size of the wire used to 
wind the coil, 12 Ga. is best, but stiff and cumbersome, 14 Ga. is pretty 
good, skinnier than that could be a problem.  Next on my list would be the 
cap.; they can be designed for rapid discharge as photoflash cap.s are, or 
not.  Further, but closely related is the Equivalent Series Resistance 
(E.S.R) of the capacitor, a high E.S.R. is what you don't want.  Many 
electronics parts catalogs will list "photoflash" and "low ESR" capacitors.
Regarding the washer toss, explore the degree of off-center placement you 
use, try for the best location - that's not cheating, it's just coupling 
the energy into the washer as kinetic.

Take care,  Malcolm

At 09:27 AM 9/24/03 +00-05, you wrote:


> For anyone who has thought about building a magnetic pulser using the
> small party strobe from radio shack, that particular strobe light has
> just been discontinued.  Radio shack still has some and can probably
> still order them for youthey are now priced at 10.97 instead of
> 35.00..so the price  has never been better for this project.  There
> is other special instructions in the archives from Brooks Bradley at
> http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/m42428.html The fuller set of
> instructions is at: http://www.royalrife.com/superthumpy.html I am
> currently planning to build 3 for myself and friends.Robb

I recently finished modifying exactly that unit. It ends up being a
pretty sweet little package, with an extra cable coming out of the back
panel above the line cord and a on-off-momentary spdt switch next to
the pulse rate control that lets me put it in auto mode *or* manually
trigger it.

I substituted a 270 uF 400 and something volt cap, which seems to work,
but I am concerned that I am not getting the power I should.

The "washer test" with a 1/4" ID common washer barely bobbles the
thing. There is a small thump in the coil when it pulses and the flash
tube seems to be very bright and the flash rather prolonged, when you
consider that most of the power is *supposed* to be dumped into the
coil.

I wonder if I have a short in the coil? The resistance is about right,
but I can't be sure otherwise. Is there any better way to test it?

Thanks, all, and my apologies for the OT digression.

Mike D.
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Re: CS>Magnetic Pulser

[M. G. Devour]

Malcolm writes:
> Check the size of the wire used to wind the coil 

I used 14 ga.

> ... rapid discharge ... "photoflash" and "low ESR" capacitors 

Okay, I can check into this. Probably not a very special cap.

> Regarding the washer toss, explore the degree of off-center placement 

Oh, I've optimized that as much as possible. A standard 1/4" flat 
washer jumps only a couple of inches, while a #8 will fly over a foot 
in the air.

Should I get that much movement from the 1/4" washer?

If so, the several things I can think of that might be effecting the 
circuit are:  a short somewhere in the coil; the wire between the coil 
and the box is 16 gauge lamp cord and closer to 6 feet long than the 
recommended 4 feet; the capacitor issues you suggest above.

Thanks for the help.

Mike D.



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Re: CS>Magnetic Pulser

[Brickeyk]

My EM-Probe magnetic pulser when left in one spot for several minutes on a 
known sore point like a knee joint with osteo arthritis where the cartilage is 
being ground up, causes a pain similar to a tooth ache.  I can actually feel 
something happening.  It also causes a hurt spot like on my fractured big toe.  
It does not have enough power to test with a washer, so I really don't know 
how else to test it.

DR Gordon said the pulse rise time has to be 10 micro seconds or better, he 
designed the unit to operate at 70 pulses per second and only outputs 2 gauss.  
He thinks all are critical.  My one shot old magnetic pulser has way more 
power and makes the washer jump about a foot, but the pulse rise time is 
probably 
pretty slow.  Gordon claims that kind of power is not needed.  The cell phone 
controversey is a low power type and I hear that newer cell phones move the 
antenna more than two inches from your ear to reduce exposure to wireless 
waves.  Gordon also said he is on a Yahoo groups websight on Electro Meds and 
they 
talk about magnetic pulsers.  They think 70 pulses per second is optimal for 
causing healing.

Brickey

Re: CS>Magnetic Pulser

[Robb Allen]

Mike, did you make yours from the radio shack strobe like I am 
doing?...does the speed knob work?Robb
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  Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2003 7:12 PM
  Subject: Re: CS>Magnetic Pulser


  My EM-Probe magnetic pulser when left in one spot for several minutes on a 
known sore point like a knee joint with osteo arthritis where the cartilage is 
being ground up, causes a pain similar to a tooth ache.  I can actually feel 
something happening.  It also causes a hurt spot like on my fractured big toe.  
It does not have enough power to test with a washer, so I really don't know how 
else to test it.

  DR Gordon said the pulse rise time has to be 10 micro seconds or better, he 
designed the unit to operate at 70 pulses per second and only outputs 2 gauss.  
He thinks all are critical.  My one shot old magnetic pulser has way more power 
and makes the washer jump about a foot, but the pulse rise time is probably 
pretty slow.  Gordon claims that kind of power is not needed.  The cell phone 
controversey is a low power type and I hear that newer cell phones move the 
antenna more than two inches from your ear to reduce exposure to wireless 
waves.  Gordon also said he is on a Yahoo groups websight on Electro Meds and 
they talk about magnetic pulsers.  They think 70 pulses per second is optimal 
for causing healing.

  Brickey

Re: CS>Magnetic Pulser

[Peter Rebaudo]

Hi:
The wire used by Bob Beck was 14-16 Ga., 130-160 Turns.

The test washer was a fender washer : 1.0 diameter  with 1/8 hole. this 
type of washer will jump much higher than a smaller one.
When placed 1/2 inch off center in a 35 watt-second strobe it will jump 
12 inches.


Do remember that the magnetic field produced by the coil is proportional 
to the mean coil radius, so  using a larger wire gage, or larger inside 
diameter,  than that  needed to match the rest of the electronics will 
result in a weaker field.


The capacitors were 330 VDC, 600uF,
450 VDC, 600uF
Some of the present machines have a peak current of 150 Amps.
For further info see:  

Regards

Peter R


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Re: CS>Magnetic Pulser

[Malcolm Stebbins]

Hi Mike,  the wire from the photoflash unit to the coil should definitely 
be short and fat; 4 ft of 12 Ga. "speaker wire" zip cord (that's what they 
call it at my local hardware store) would be very good, 16 Ga. is a little 
skinny.
Tossing the caber - er, washer - is a topic full of variables not least of 
which are the o.d. of the washer, it's weight, it's composition such as 
hot-rolled, cold rolled steel, slag inclusions, purity, grain, plating 
material, ad infinitum.
What's going on is a combination; the production of an electromagnetic 
field in the coil induces a "magnetoelectric" field in the washer as a 
shorted one turn coil itself, . . . . then comes the almost instantaneous 
collapse of the coil's field upon the almost instantaneous (except maybe in 
your case) termination of current in the coil.  This extremely rapid field 
collapse is responsible for generating a much stronger magnetic field from 
the coil which kicks the washer away.  The xenon flashtube is the "almost 
instantaneous" switch; when its off it's real off, and when it's on it's 
real on (except maybe in your case.)  IOW, if current dump from the cap 
through the F.T. and hence the coil is somewhat drawn-out and sags to an 
end, the sharp cutoff that allows the rapid field collapse which generates 
the "kick" fades to allowing a mere nudge.
A short in the coil would lower it's resistance AND it's reactance so is 
not at all likely to cause a longer discharge time through the photoflash 
bulb which you observed, rather the opposite.
Sooo, look for things which slow down the discharge; resistance in the 
wires, or in the flashtube itself, too many turns of wire on the coil.

Hope this helps.  Take care, Malcolm


At 08:23 AM 9/25/03 +00-05, you wrote:


Malcolm writes:
> Check the size of the wire used to wind the coil

I used 14 ga.

> ... rapid discharge ... "photoflash" and "low ESR" capacitors

Okay, I can check into this. Probably not a very special cap.

> Regarding the washer toss, explore the degree of off-center placement

Oh, I've optimized that as much as possible. A standard 1/4" flat
washer jumps only a couple of inches, while a #8 will fly over a foot
in the air.

Should I get that much movement from the 1/4" washer?

If so, the several things I can think of that might be effecting the
circuit are:  a short somewhere in the coil; the wire between the coil
and the box is 16 gauge lamp cord and closer to 6 feet long than the
recommended 4 feet; the capacitor issues you suggest above.

Thanks for the help.

Mike D.



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Re: CS>Magnetic Pulser

[M. G. Devour]

Brickey reports:
> They think 70 pulses per second is optimal for causing healing. 

Well, the technology is always evolving, I guess. I've got mine built 
so I'll use it. But it looks like I'll still have something else to 
lust after! 

Thanks for the report and the pointers to resources, Brickey.

Be well,

Mike D.

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Re: CS>Magnetic Pulser

[M. G. Devour]

> Mike, did you make yours from the radio shack strobe like I am
> doing?...does the speed knob work?Robb

Yep, and yep.  I found a couple of the small party strobes for 15 bucks 
apiece on manager's special.

When you add all that capacitance it in fact slows the pulse rate down 
by about the ratio of the capacitor values. The rate knob still works, 
adjusting from about 1 and 1/2 seconds per pulse to about twice that 
rate.

The nice thing I added was a little toggle switch mounted just above 
the rate control. It's a single-pole double-throw switch that's 
momentary in one direction. I've used it to interrupt the trigger 
circuit so that in the on position it's automatic, in the center 
position it stops, and pressing down, it's easy to trigger a single 
pulse or let it run until you release. Sort of a select-fire feature! 
Maybe I should call it an "assault thumpy?" 

There's a diode from the input side of the trigger transformer to 
ground. I lifted the grounded end and ran wires from it to the switch 
and from the switch to the hole it came out of. Sweet.

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Re: CS>Magnetic Pulser

[M. G. Devour]

Malcolm writes:
> Hi Mike,  the wire from the photoflash unit to the coil should
> definitely be short and fat; 4 ft of 12 Ga. "speaker wire" zip cord
> (that's what they call it at my local hardware store) would be very
> good, 16 Ga. is a little skinny. 

Okay. I had a hard time finding any that large.

> A short in the coil would lower it's resistance AND it's reactance so
> is not at all likely to cause a longer discharge time through the
> photoflash bulb which you observed, rather the opposite. 

Cool! I hope you're right. I'd rather not rewind from scratch.

> Sooo, look for things which slow down the discharge; resistance in the
> wires, or in the flashtube itself, too many turns of wire on the coil.

I have another tube I can swap with to test that. I can try taking a 
few turns off the coil, no problem. I kinda lost count, so the turns 
count may be off the high end of the range.

Peter writes:

> The test washer was a fender washer : 1.0 diameter  with 1/8 hole.
> this type of washer will jump much higher than a smaller one. When
> placed 1/2 inch off center in a 35 watt-second strobe it will jump 12
> inches. 

Well, for me the smaller one jumps a foot and one of those barely hops. 
Obviously not working like it's supposed to. 

> The capacitors were 330 VDC, 600uF, 450 VDC, 600uF 

What do you mean by capacitors? I only replaced one, and that with a 
single component.

Thank you, Malcolm, Peter.

Be well,

Mike D.

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Re: CS>Magnetic Pulser

[George]

On Thu, 25 Sep 2003 23:31:45 -0700, Malcolm Stebbins wrote:

>Hi Mike,  the wire from the photoflash unit to the coil should definitely 
>be short and fat; 4 ft of 12 Ga. "speaker wire" zip cord (that's what they 
>call it at my local hardware store) would be very good, 16 Ga. is a little 
>skinny.

Too skinny for what?  16 ga. is good for 22 Amps or so...



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CS>Magnetic Pulser Freaquency

[Robb Allen]

Hi..I was wondering.has anyone attempted to make a magnetic pulser that 
operates at rife frequency's?
It seems that it would be very effective and could overcome alot of the tissue 
penetration problems.perhaps people are already doing this?anyone 
know?.Robb

Re: CS> Magnetic pulser

[Robb Allen]

Hey Mike.since you have had a day or two to play with your Pulser, I was
wondering how it was working for you?...I have you tried it on
anything?..success?...Robb

- Original Message -
From: "Peter Rebaudo" 
To: 
Sent: Saturday, September 27, 2003 1:49 AM
Subject: CS> Magnetic pulser


> Peter wrote:
>
> --The capacitors were 330 VDC, 600uF, 450 VDC, 600uF
> Mike Wrote:
>
> --What do you mean by capacitors? I only replaced one, and that with a
> single component.
>
> There is one capacitor per machine. The two about mentioned caps belong
> to different models of commercial pulsers.
>
> Regards
> Perer R
>
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Re: CS> Magnetic pulser

[Robb Allen]

I also was wondering more about the capacitors..the ones I have on hand
are 200v 470uf
is this close enough..or at least close enough to begin using it until I
find something gooder?..lol..thanksRobb
- Original Message -
From: "Peter Rebaudo" 
To: 
Sent: Saturday, September 27, 2003 1:49 AM
Subject: CS> Magnetic pulser


> Peter wrote:
>
> --The capacitors were 330 VDC, 600uF, 450 VDC, 600uF
> Mike Wrote:
>
> --What do you mean by capacitors? I only replaced one, and that with a
> single component.
>
> There is one capacitor per machine. The two about mentioned caps belong
> to different models of commercial pulsers.
>
> Regards
> Perer R
>
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Re: CS> Magnetic pulser

[M. G. Devour]

> Hey Mike.since you have had a day or two to play with your Pulser, I
> was wondering how it was working for you?...I have you tried it on
> anything?..success?...Robb

I haven't tried it on me yet!  Too busy tinkering with other 
details of the alleged protocol I'm getting ready to do.

However, I did re-engineer it slightly. I disassembled the coil and 
pulled about 20 turns off of it. That actually killed the pulse-
strength a lot. The tube flash was noticably shorter however.  

I also shortened the wire from the unit to the coil by a couple of feet 
at the same time.

Next I took it apart and re-worked the capacitor mod. I had put in a 
single 270 uF 450 volt capacitor. Seeing the suggestions from others 
here to use upwards of 600 uF, I took it out and reworked things so I 
could fit 2 of them in the available space, for a total of 540 uF.

The small #8 flat washer now jumps a good foot and a half, and a 1/4" 
flat washer jumps a few inches. The 1/8" fender washer hardly moves at 
all, still. This *is* more powerful than I had originally, and I deem 
it adequate to use for now.

In answer to your other message on this thread, I'd suggest to you that 
the 200 volt capacitor is beyond borderline and likely to fail -- 
perhaps spectacularly! I don't know how much of a safety margin they 
build in, but keep in mind that the circuit is a voltage doubler, and 
charges the cap up to at least 240 volts or so.

I bought mine from Digi-Key, www.digikey.com ... They were $5.40 apiece 
and part # P11787-ND. You might revisit my part selection, because I 
think you could fit a single 600 uF (or even higher) part in the same 
space. (Hmmm... I should think about that.)

Go to their main page and type electrolytic capacitor in their Parts 
Search window. Click on the resulting link, and you'll be at a fancy 
part selector form which you can use to browse their stock.  
Unfortunately you can't input a *range* of voltage or capacitance, but 
with enough tinkering you can find something suitable.

Their P7420-ND, 680 uF, 400 V,  35mm dia x 50 long -- looks like a 
possibility. I'm talking about laying it on its side. The 35 mm dia 
fits somewhat closely between the top of the components and the roof of 
the case, while the length fits between the control pot and the back 
side of the reflector.

This one might be ideal: # P11798-ND, 820 uF, 350 V, 35 mm dia x 45 mm.
Comfortable margin on voltage, an easier fit end-wise, high-ish temp 
range. http://dkc3.digikey.com/PDF/T033/0705.pdf

I'm not comfortable cutting it as close as a 250 V part. These are 
better.

I used 14 gauge solid wire to connect the caps snap-in terminals to the 
board.

They're a good company. I've bought from them several times in the 
past.

Good luck, Robb, and let me know how it goes.

Mike D.
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Re: CS> Magnetic pulser

[Robb Allen]

Thanks for all the info Mike..I'll be winding my coil tomorrow and
continue looking for some suitable capsI hope I can find
something.Robb
- Original Message -
From: "M. G. Devour" 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, October 05, 2003 12:25 PM
Subject: Re: CS> Magnetic pulser


> > Hey Mike.since you have had a day or two to play with your Pulser, I
> > was wondering how it was working for you?...I have you tried it on
> > anything?..success?...Robb
>
> I haven't tried it on me yet!  Too busy tinkering with other
> details of the alleged protocol I'm getting ready to do.
>
> However, I did re-engineer it slightly. I disassembled the coil and
> pulled about 20 turns off of it. That actually killed the pulse-
> strength a lot. The tube flash was noticably shorter however.
>
> I also shortened the wire from the unit to the coil by a couple of feet
> at the same time.
>
> Next I took it apart and re-worked the capacitor mod. I had put in a
> single 270 uF 450 volt capacitor. Seeing the suggestions from others
> here to use upwards of 600 uF, I took it out and reworked things so I
> could fit 2 of them in the available space, for a total of 540 uF.
>
> The small #8 flat washer now jumps a good foot and a half, and a 1/4"
> flat washer jumps a few inches. The 1/8" fender washer hardly moves at
> all, still. This *is* more powerful than I had originally, and I deem
> it adequate to use for now.
>
> In answer to your other message on this thread, I'd suggest to you that
> the 200 volt capacitor is beyond borderline and likely to fail --
> perhaps spectacularly! I don't know how much of a safety margin they
> build in, but keep in mind that the circuit is a voltage doubler, and
> charges the cap up to at least 240 volts or so.
>
> I bought mine from Digi-Key, www.digikey.com ... They were $5.40 apiece
> and part # P11787-ND. You might revisit my part selection, because I
> think you could fit a single 600 uF (or even higher) part in the same
> space. (Hmmm... I should think about that.)
>
> Go to their main page and type electrolytic capacitor in their Parts
> Search window. Click on the resulting link, and you'll be at a fancy
> part selector form which you can use to browse their stock.
> Unfortunately you can't input a *range* of voltage or capacitance, but
> with enough tinkering you can find something suitable.
>
> Their P7420-ND, 680 uF, 400 V,  35mm dia x 50 long -- looks like a
> possibility. I'm talking about laying it on its side. The 35 mm dia
> fits somewhat closely between the top of the components and the roof of
> the case, while the length fits between the control pot and the back
> side of the reflector.
>
> This one might be ideal: # P11798-ND, 820 uF, 350 V, 35 mm dia x 45 mm.
> Comfortable margin on voltage, an easier fit end-wise, high-ish temp
> range. http://dkc3.digikey.com/PDF/T033/0705.pdf
>
> I'm not comfortable cutting it as close as a 250 V part. These are
> better.
>
> I used 14 gauge solid wire to connect the caps snap-in terminals to the
> board.
>
> They're a good company. I've bought from them several times in the
> past.
>
> Good luck, Robb, and let me know how it goes.
>
> Mike D.
> [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian]
> [mdev...@eskimo.com]
> [Speaking only for myself...   ]
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Re: CS>Magnetic Pulser

[Robb Allen]

Ooops.nevermind.I figured it out..I just got mine finishedmine 
seems to have ALOT of powerI went ahead and tried the cap that I told you 
about and it works really goodit will throw just about anything metal 
that you put on it..I think its a little slow though...at the fastest 
speed it takes about 3 secondsstrenght or speed?.hmmm...I'll 
try strength for a while firstRobb
  - Original Message - 
  From: Robb Allen 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Monday, October 06, 2003 8:31 PM
  Subject: CS>Magnetic Pulser


  Mike.I hate to keep this subject goingbut I"ve hit a snag..the 
instructions don't tell you which leads to connect your coil 
to...?..they are very vague...it says:

  I made sure the
  capacitor was discharged, and cut the wire leading to one end of
  the flash tube, leaving enough length on each end to attach the 4
  feet of 16 gauge speaker wire that goes to the coil.  The coil is
  MCM part number 50-940.  It is important to cut a wire leading to
  an end, not the middle of the flash tube.

  Which ones go to the coil?which is negative?.which is negative on the 
coil?.sorry..but thanksRobb

Re: CS>Magnetic Pulser

[Arnold Beland]

Selling many of these, are you, Alvin?
- Original Message - 
From: "Alvin Rose" 
To: 
Sent: Friday, March 29, 2002 2:26 AM
Subject: CS>Magnetic Pulser


> Hi Listers
> Check out the High Power Magnetic Pulser
> available at http://www.rtvc-2000.com/magpulse.htm
> also lots of info links on alternative health protocols
> 
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Re: CS>Magnetic Pulser

[Solar]

Hello Alvin,

Friday, March 29, 2002, 2:26:19 AM, you wrote:

AR> Hi Listers
AR> Check out the High Power Magnetic Pulser
AR> available at http://www.rtvc-2000.com/magpulse.htm
AR> also lots of info links on alternative health protocols


Alvin, no offense to you personally, but by posting a link to a
product YOU sell, you are going to get spanked! I'm sure Mike will
send you a "nastygram".

Since you posted this on-list, I feel that it is only fair to critique
your product.

1) You don't state if the capacitors are photoflash rated. If they
aren't, they won't live long. Even if they are rated for photoflash
use, the quality varies GREATLY by brand.

2) By increasing the net capacity (4 600 microfarad caps in parallel),
you are only increasing the pulse duration. The peak magnetic flux
generated isn't any greater than if you only used 1 600 microfarad
capacitor. So, this makes the unit no better than any other one out
there that operates at 325 volts.

3) You use "PAYPAL". There have been many, many articles written, in
print and online, about people, vendors included, being ripped off by
Paypal.

Please note that I DO NOT make or market anything of the sort. I am
just making observations on your product.

You clearly violated one of the "carved in stone" rules here. Vendors
are not permitted to hawk their wares. Expect harsh criticism for
doing so.




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Re: CS>Magnetic Pulser

[Marshall Dudley]

Solar wrote:

> Hello Alvin,
>
> 2) By increasing the net capacity (4 600 microfarad caps in parallel),
> you are only increasing the pulse duration. The peak magnetic flux
> generated isn't any greater than if you only used 1 600 microfarad
> capacitor. So, this makes the unit no better than any other one out
> there that operates at 325 volts.
>

That is true if he is loading into a resistor.  However, the coil will be an
inductor, and the current profile of an inductor is t*V/L.   Assuming
negligable resistnace the peak current will be 70.7%higher if you double the
capacitor.  The pulse duration will also be 70.7% higher.  The rise time
will be 70.7% longer, but the rate of rise in flux per second on the leading
edge will be unchanged, it would require increasing the voltage to increase
that.

Of course that is assuming the same coil.  If one wants to maintain the same
timing and only increase the peak amplitude, then they could double the
capacitance, and remove about 30% of the winding on the coil, replacing it
with wire two guages higher, and double the amplitude of the magnetic field,
yet have virtually the same pulse profile and width.

>
> 3) You use "PAYPAL". There have been many, many articles written, in
> print and online, about people, vendors included, being ripped off by
> Paypal.
>

I concur.  I can't imagine why anyone uses PayPal anymore when there are
free services like C2IT, and merchant accounts can be obtained for free
now.  PayPal has been losing millions per quarter for a long time now.  If
they go bust, everyone will lose what they have in their accounts.

Marshall


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Re: CS>Magnetic Pulser

[Alvin Rose]

Hi Solar and Marshall

Thanks for the critics..I have been on this list
for years and Mike is very reasonable
My website is a very informative site for alternative
health information especially on Colloidal Silver..
and other protocols...http://www.rtvc-2000.com

The four 600 microfarad capacitors are not in
parallel as you indicated..but in a series ...parallel
combination and uses a ballast trigger for scr
gating and high power..All capacitors are
photoflash units  360 volts each in series of two
which are parallelled..this is a 1200 mfd effective
capacity with a voltage handling of 720 volts..The coil
is 2.5uH and outputs a powerful pulse in a 25 amp 800
volt SCR which is reverse current diode protected
..discharge voltage is  349 at the slowest trigger
speed so it's very conservatively rated
We are testing a new unit which has a Beck 4hz and 100hz
blood purifier..with a pyramid and square wave output..
a Clark Type 30 kc zapper...a Constant current Colloidal Silver
generator and a high power Magnetic Pulser all built in to one unit
It is a complete protocol with the use of H202

We have been using PayPal for quite some time
and had no problems with them except when we
started..they had some growing pains..but not now
Feel free to visit the website for Silver and other information
on all of the protocols..and I won't be trying to sell
you anything
Best Regards
Alvin Rose.. CTech  http://www.rtvc-2000.com

Solar wrote:

> Hello Alvin,
>
> Friday, March 29, 2002, 2:26:19 AM, you wrote:
>
> AR> Hi Listers
> AR> Check out the High Power Magnetic Pulser
> AR> available at http://www.rtvc-2000.com/magpulse.htm
> AR> also lots of info links on alternative health protocols
>
> Alvin, no offense to you personally, but by posting a link to a
> product YOU sell, you are going to get spanked! I'm sure Mike will
> send you a "nastygram".
>
> Since you posted this on-list, I feel that it is only fair to critique
> your product.
>
> 1) You don't state if the capacitors are photoflash rated. If they
> aren't, they won't live long. Even if they are rated for photoflash
> use, the quality varies GREATLY by brand.
>
> 2) By increasing the net capacity (4 600 microfarad caps in parallel),
> you are only increasing the pulse duration. The peak magnetic flux
> generated isn't any greater than if you only used 1 600 microfarad
> capacitor. So, this makes the unit no better than any other one out
> there that operates at 325 volts.
>
> 3) You use "PAYPAL". There have been many, many articles written, in
> print and online, about people, vendors included, being ripped off by
> Paypal.
>
> Please note that I DO NOT make or market anything of the sort. I am
> just making observations on your product.
>
> You clearly violated one of the "carved in stone" rules here. Vendors
> are not permitted to hawk their wares. Expect harsh criticism for
> doing so.
>
> --
> Best regards,
>  Solar
>
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Re: CS>Magnetic Pulser

[Kevin Nolan]

If the MP is doing it's thing, it should be dumping most of the energy into
the appropriate body parts. In which case the body is acting as a resistive
secondary winding - the MP coil being the primary winding. In which case we
are dealing neither with an RC or LC, but an RLC circuit. Even when used
away from close proximity to the body, presumably there are diode clamps
present in the circuit to avoid resonant 'ringing'. One would need an
accurate model of the effective resistivity of various body locations before
the 'R' value(s) could be inserted into the circuit model and the true
response computed.

Kevin Nolan

- Original Message -
From: "Marshall Dudley" 
To: 
Sent: Saturday, March 30, 2002 2:46 AM
Subject: Re: CS>Magnetic Pulser


> Solar wrote:
>
> > Hello Alvin,
> >
> > 2) By increasing the net capacity (4 600 microfarad caps in parallel),
> > you are only increasing the pulse duration. The peak magnetic flux
> > generated isn't any greater than if you only used 1 600 microfarad
> > capacitor. So, this makes the unit no better than any other one out
> > there that operates at 325 volts.
> >
>
> That is true if he is loading into a resistor.  However, the coil will be
an
> inductor, and the current profile of an inductor is t*V/L.   Assuming
> negligable resistnace the peak current will be 70.7%higher if you double
the
> capacitor.  The pulse duration will also be 70.7% higher.  The rise time
> will be 70.7% longer, but the rate of rise in flux per second on the
leading
> edge will be unchanged, it would require increasing the voltage to
increase
> that.
>
> Of course that is assuming the same coil.  If one wants to maintain the
same
> timing and only increase the peak amplitude, then they could double the
> capacitance, and remove about 30% of the winding on the coil, replacing it
> with wire two guages higher, and double the amplitude of the magnetic
field,
> yet have virtually the same pulse profile and width.
>
> >
> > 3) You use "PAYPAL". There have been many, many articles written, in
> > print and online, about people, vendors included, being ripped off by
> > Paypal.
> >
>
> I concur.  I can't imagine why anyone uses PayPal anymore when there are
> free services like C2IT, and merchant accounts can be obtained for free
> now.  PayPal has been losing millions per quarter for a long time now.  If
> they go bust, everyone will lose what they have in their accounts.
>
> Marshall
>
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CS>MAGNETIC PULSER INFO

[brooks bradley]

 Dear Mike, I apologize for making this post on this list, but so very many 
of the people desiring information on the devicerelate that they are not on 
the "Off-List".
I suggest that interested persons go to Dr. Richard Lloyd's website 
using this url
www.royalrife.com/superthumpy.html His instructions are quite clear and 
easy to follow.
This device (Super Thumpy) is a modified version of Dr. Bob Beck's 
device (essentially the same as the current Sota device)which incorporates 
a modification to the original Thumpy variation of the Beck device.  Of the 
devices we constructed and tested, this unit gave the best performance 
--based upon cost/complexity considerations.  It is quite adequate in 
power, for most "layman-type" users.  Some may be interested in the Haining 
Pulser, which is a 240 vac device which is  MUCH more powerful, but does pose 
some safety considerations.  For the more adventurous types, just go to 
Richard's index page and scroll down to the word Haining (down in the 
electronic device section) for a circuit and limited general characters.
The secret to making the Radio Shack party strobe powerful 
enough to do an adequate job is to increase the main capacitor strength.  
Richard settled for  a 200 uf capacitor rated at 450 vdc.  We found that a 
slightly  lower voltage and a higher microfarad rating worked somewhat better.  
The 300 mf capacitor at 320 VDC from Allied he recommends works quite well.
However, I suggest a possible variationthat we used.  It is to 
use part number LPX331M400E7P3 400vdc (450 surge) X 320 MFD  by Mallory (it is 
stocked by Allied Electronics ( http://www.allied.avnet.com) I believe it costs 
about $9.00 and is well worth it.  It will fit quite nicely in the area where 
you remove the original capacitor from the top of the circuit board, of the 
little party strobe.  Do remember that the Negative (-) capacitor lead is on 
the side where the black stripe is painted.
Remember, all you are doing is inserting an electro-magnet in 
series with the strobe light.  I am trying to download a couple of zoom photos 
of one of the units we modified.to show "exactly" which lead from the 
strobe light we cut and spliced the coil (magnet wire coil assembly) leads into.
The Radio Shack strobe unit costs about $35.00 and works very 
well.
I do not know, exactly, what the coil Richard recommends costs.as we wound 
all of our own on old VCR tape cores...using #16 magnet wire.  
The knob on the front becomes a fine frequency control.  Just 
advance in a CW direction until the unit is firing at the desired frequency.  
We have found that about once every 1.5 to 2.0 seconds gives superlative 
results for most applications.  For a little more power.set to about a 3.0 
second firing frequency. 
NO commercial unit we evaluated gave results comparable to this 
little "shop-built" unit.  The Haining unit is much more powerful..but does 
pose some possible hazards to the unskilled population.  Additionally, the 
power levels are so high we have not established reliable safety 
parameters.for general use.
This is not a challenging project and does not require any 
special skills.other than being able to use a soldering iron, wire cutters, 
stripper, a screwdriver---and some common sense.
If you strike a snagjust give me a post.
Good Luck Sincerely,  Brooks Bradley.  
p.s.  I recommend you use a 1/8" drill bit in an electric drill and bore about 
10 well spaced holes in each side and the top ---of the strobe unit cover.  
This greatly assists in giving enough ventilation to prevent 
overheating.during prolonged use.  Otherwise, I suggest you use a small fan 
to keep the unit from experiencing a shortened life-from lengthy periods of 
sustained use.

CS> Magnetic Pulser & Red LEDs

[Douglas Haack]

Marshall and good Listers


USE site: http://sotainstruments.com/

Works great!

I love my Pulser, also from Sota. I couldn't live without it. Helps my arthritic
hip -- makes my life and any walking activity possible!!

I emailed them and asked for a "refurbished one". This was some 3 years ago and 
I
was given a discount of of some 25%. If they have any in stock, they'll discount
it. People do return them sometimes.

I coundn't be without mine. Went on a 8 day cruise and forgot my Pulser. Was in
great pain by day eight.

The airport screeners will open your bag when packed in a suitcase or carry-on
luggage. I now have a 72 arrray RED LED light gadget -- travels less
conspicuously. Works well on the hip -- not as good as the pulser. The pulser is
more bulky.

I believe the LED light may not penetrate into the hip deeply enough. The LED
seems good for arthritic hand pain, knees etc.

It's still early on the LED, I've only used it some 3/4 weeks (the sit:
http://theledman.net/). I've settled on the two while watching TV or reading.
It's a nightly routine and I couldn't live without it!!

in SILvation, Douglas H


Marshall Dudley wrote:

> A friend of my daughter has ataxia.  Reading up on it, I think the best shot
> at helping would be CS and gatorade and using a magnetic pulsar.  I have one
> which I got from Sota ( http://sota-inc.com ).  But that web site seems to no
> longer be working.  Are they out of business?  If so, who would be recommended
> for a supplier for this device now?
>
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>
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CS>Magnetic Pulser...pre-leukimia

[Rob Combis]

Richard-

I took your advice and I ordered the magnetic pulser (SOTA) today.  Nobody has 
the water ozanators in stock but I read and heard that putting food grade 
hydrogen peroxide in some water accomplishes the same taskoxygenating your 
body.  So my uncle will begin these as soon as they come in...together with CS 
and the zapper...

So here is my question.  How does one use the magnetic pulser??  Like how 
long??  Where on the body is best??  Once a day, twice a day??  I can't find 
any info on this on the web...I know this is the wrong forum for this but I 
don't know where to look...

Thanks,

Rob

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Re: CS>Magnetic pulser group

[Jim Meissner]

Hi Terry:
--- Terry Chamberlin  wrote:
> I was a member of the magnetic-pulser list, which
> became the power-pulser list. Yahoo says there is no
> such thing as either group now.
> 
> Does anyone know what is going on? I am building a
> large magnetic pulser and have all the parts, but
> need
> some info. There were photos, etc., I wanted to
> reference, but no groups to access. Help.
> 
> Terry Chamberlin
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Re: CS>Magnetic pulser group

[a rose...]

I am still getting mail from the original list, but the new one formed 
seems to not be formed yet, if ever...I had just signed on to the original 
list and then got the we are splitting into two list notices...signed up 
for both by hitting reply but never got subbed...so went to the link on 
yahoo and resubbed for magpulser...like I said, the other list that was 
supposed to form apparently did not.


will be most interested to know what experience you have with the pulser if 
you would be so kind to keep us updated...


thanks,
a rose...

   * 
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Magpulser/ 


At 03:53 PM 3/13/2004, you wrote:

Hi Terry:
--- Terry Chamberlin  wrote:
> I was a member of the magnetic-pulser list, which
> became the power-pulser list. Yahoo says there is no
> such thing as either group now.
>
> Does anyone know what is going on? I am building a
> large magnetic pulser and have all the parts, but
> need
> some info. There were photos, etc., I wanted to
> reference, but no groups to access. Help.
>
> Terry Chamberlin
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Re: CS>Magnetic pulser group

[Jim Meissner]

Dear Terry:

Having mailing problems, sorry.  The new group is
called Magpulser

--- Jim Meissner  wrote:
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> --- Terry Chamberlin  wrote:
> > I was a member of the magnetic-pulser list, which
> > became the power-pulser list. Yahoo says there is
> no
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> > 
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> > need
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Re: CS>Magnetic pulser group

[Tel Tofflemire]

Terry , this may be it? 
http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/microelectricitygermkiller/

Tel Tofflemire
Dewey, AZ

Terry Chamberlin wrote:


I was a member of the magnetic-pulser list, which
became the power-pulser list. Yahoo says there is no
such thing as either group now.

Does anyone know what is going on? I am building a
large magnetic pulser and have all the parts, but need
some info. There were photos, etc., I wanted to
reference, but no groups to access. Help.

Terry Chamberlin

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Re: CS>Magnetic pulser group

[Tel Tofflemire]

Terry, here is the big bonanza it list them all...& then some...
http://health.dir.groups.yahoo.com/dir/Health___Wellness/Alternative_Medicine?show_groups=1
Tel Tofflemire
Dewey, AZ

Terry Chamberlin wrote:


I was a member of the magnetic-pulser list, which
became the power-pulser list. Yahoo says there is no
such thing as either group now.

Does anyone know what is going on? I am building a
large magnetic pulser and have all the parts, but need
some info. There were photos, etc., I wanted to
reference, but no groups to access. Help.

Terry Chamberlin

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RE: CS>Magnetic pulser group

[Vince Richter]

The original Magnetic pulser group is still there at:

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/Magpulser/

The "new" group called the power-pulser list was started but went out of
business for good immediately after it started.

Hope this helps.

Vince


-Original Message-
From: Terry Chamberlin [mailto:tcj...@yahoo.ca] 
Sent: Saturday, March 13, 2004 3:29 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CS>Magnetic pulser group

I was a member of the magnetic-pulser list, which
became the power-pulser list. Yahoo says there is no
such thing as either group now.

Does anyone know what is going on? I am building a
large magnetic pulser and have all the parts, but need
some info. There were photos, etc., I wanted to
reference, but no groups to access. Help.

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RE: CS>Magnetic pulser group

[a rose...]

Can you tell me why this happened?

thanks,

a rose...

At 08:35 AM 3/14/2004, you wrote:

The "new" group called the power-pulser list was started but went out of
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Re: CS>Magnetic pulser group

[Robb Allen]

I'm the owner of the magnetic pulser group.here is the link:
http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/Magpulser/
Robb
- Original Message - 
From: "Tel Tofflemire" 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, March 14, 2004 12:05 AM
Subject: Re: CS>Magnetic pulser group


> Terry , this may be it? 
> http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/microelectricitygermkiller/
> Tel Tofflemire
> Dewey, AZ
> 
> Terry Chamberlin wrote:
> 
> >I was a member of the magnetic-pulser list, which
> >became the power-pulser list. Yahoo says there is no
> >such thing as either group now.
> >
> >Does anyone know what is going on? I am building a
> >large magnetic pulser and have all the parts, but need
> >some info. There were photos, etc., I wanted to
> >reference, but no groups to access. Help.
> >
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RE: CS>Magnetic pulser group

[Vince Richter]

No.  I don't know.  Now you know as much as I do about it :)

Vince

-Original Message-
From: a rose... [mailto:rain...@valuelinx.net] 
Sent: Sunday, March 14, 2004 9:05 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: CS>Magnetic pulser group

Can you tell me why this happened?

thanks,

a rose...

At 08:35 AM 3/14/2004, you wrote:
>The "new" group called the power-pulser list was started but went out
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Re: CS>Magnetic pulser group

[Robb Allen]

Hisomeone posted an idea that was dangerous after I had warned them
not to...and it resulted in someone  getting hurt..I purged the list
and started a new one..its the exact same listRobb
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To: 
Sent: Sunday, March 14, 2004 10:04 AM
Subject: RE: CS>Magnetic pulser group


> Can you tell me why this happened?
>
> thanks,
>
> a rose...
>
> At 08:35 AM 3/14/2004, you wrote:
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CS>Magnetic Pulser for Ted

[Terry Chamberlin]

Ted,
You said,
"Terry,
I believe you mentioned something about being able to
get the Sota Magnetic Pulser shipped directly from
them but for a lower price?  I'm thinking of getting
one and would be interested in knowing what price you
could get that for."

I tried to email you privately to respond to this, but
didn't get through.

Please email me privately at:

tcj...@yahoo.com

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Re: CS>Magnetic Pulser Freaquency

[Jonathan B. Britten]

Persons interested in magnetic pulsers might wish to contact a person 
named Buryl Payne.  He makes some devices including something called a 
"power pulser."   His site is www.buryl.com


I read his book.  It is interesting.   I will receive a power pulser 
from him soon.



JBB



On Saturday, Oct 4, 2003, at 12:17 Asia/Tokyo, Robb Allen wrote:

Hi..I was wondering.has anyone attempted to make a magnetic 
pulser that operates at rife frequency's?
It seems that it would be very effective and could overcome alot of 
the tissue penetration problems.perhaps people are already doing 
this?anyone know?.Robb

RE: CS>Magnetic Pulser Freaquency

[Richard Harris]

My wife & I are using SOTA'S Zapper, new model ZHC5 ($110 US) for a few
weeks & intend to continue. This is a continuation of  & improvement on Bob
Beck's Zapper & Protocol. They have been very customer friendly in sending
info & answering questions. I have a pacemaker and info on magnetic pulser's
that I have seen, state that this is not intended for pacemaker patients
without their doctor present. If anyone has info on this I'd appreciate it.
Thanks,
Richard Harris, 56 yr FL Pharmacist
  -Original Message-
  From: Jonathan B. Britten [mailto:jbrit...@cc.nakamura-u.ac.jp]
  Sent: Saturday, October 04, 2003 3:45 AM
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com
  Subject: Re: CS>Magnetic Pulser Freaquency


  Persons interested in magnetic pulsers might wish to contact a person
named Buryl Payne. He makes some devices including something called a "power
pulser." His site is www.buryl.com

  I read his book. It is interesting. I will receive a power pulser from him
soon.


  JBB



  On Saturday, Oct 4, 2003, at 12:17 Asia/Tokyo, Robb Allen wrote:


Hi..I was wondering.has anyone attempted to make a magnetic
pulser that operates at rife frequency's?
It seems that it would be very effective and could overcome alot of the
tissue penetration problems.perhaps people are already doing
this?anyone know?.Robb

Re: CS>Magnetic Pulser Freaquency

[Grant]

I don't see how this would be possible.. The inductors and caps used in 
magnetic pulser are so massive
(relitavely speaking) That they simply would load down the cct. at rife 
freqs..The caps would not be able to
charge and discharge  no-where near fast enough. Neither would the 
inductors be able to collapse

the flux density fast enough..
   Grant..
   




On Saturday, Oct 4, 2003, at 12:17 Asia/Tokyo, Robb Allen wrote:

Hi..I was wondering.has anyone attempted to make a
magnetic pulser that operates at rife frequency's?
It seems that it would be very effective and could overcome
alot of the tissue penetration problems.perhaps people are
already doing this?anyone know?.Robb






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Re: CS>Magnetic Pulser (OT)

[James Allison]

About PayPal, I know somebody personally who ran over a hundred thousand 
dollars through them last year, with an average ticket price of 40 dollars 
(lots of transactions!) and had no problems what-so-ever.  Have you had any 
problems personally with them?

Yours in health,
James Allison

  - Original Message - 
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  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Friday, March 29, 2002 8:37 AM
  Subject: Re: CS>Magnetic Pulser



  3) You use "PAYPAL". There have been many, many articles written, in
  print and online, about people, vendors included, being ripped off by
  Paypal.

CS>magnetic pulser & nose stinging?

[Nicole Fraser]

Hello everyone!

Well, I was just wondering what exactly the magnetic pulser is good for?? I 
think it will benifit me but am not sure and $250.. that is a lot of 
money..does anyone know if there is a cheaper model? I am just trying to find 
out if it is worth the money or not. Would some kind of magnets do the same 
thing?? Anyone seen any benifits using just that specifically? I used the 
silver pulser for a while and it didn't help me much..but the lymph glands seem 
to be a good idea to cleanse right now in my case :0) What about your liver? I 
did a detoxification profile and my liver has more toxins than it can deal with.

Also, I have had this symtom for a LONG time and wonder if ANYONE can give me 
any insite? I do have Lyme and cfs. Now ever since I got ill after I had mono I 
get this stinging in my nose like there is liquid in there or something. It 
lasts a few seconds and in the begining hurt a lot! has anyone here ever 
experienced this?? Any thoughts on what can cause it? I am on the eat right for 
your blood type diet and avoid foods that I know I have sensitivities too from 
an allergy test.

Thanks!

Nicole :O)

PS, I am not able to take CS because I have dysbiosis and it didn't really give 
me the results I had hoped and may have made that worse.   :0( Does anyone have 
any info on lyme therapies besides olive leaf that I can do to help? I am aware 
of the beck protocal, but is there any other herbs or treatments?? my body is 
FAR to weak for any drugs right now and I doubt after the trouble one 
antibiotic caused me that I would take them again!



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Re: CS>MAGNETIC PULSER INFO

[fedtoledo]

Thanks again for more good info Brooks,

I have been interested in the Magnetic Pulsar for a long time.   As I'm almost 
done putting together the nebulizer,   I am excited to be able to being able to 
put one of these together also.

I couldn't come up with the website you referred to for Allied Electronics to 
purchase the capacitor used, so came up with www.alliedelec.com They had 
this part, same MFG part number (400v 300uf)  Allied part number # 852-1468 at 
this website. 

They had a $50 minimum order, so I ordered all 4 that they had in stock, 
$10.80ea.,If anyone would like one let me know.  I will keep two.Make 
one for out of state family.  

Thanks again Brooks,

I would like to join the off-topic list.  Would someone mind providing that 
again?.

Dee
  -Original Message-From: brooks bradley 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Date: Tuesday, October 30, 2001 12:02 AM
  Subject: CS>MAGNETIC PULSER INFO


   Dear Mike, I apologize for making this post on this list, but so very 
many of the people desiring information on the devicerelate that they are 
not on the "Off-List".
  I suggest that interested persons go to Dr. Richard Lloyd's website 
using this url
  www.royalrife.com/superthumpy.html His instructions are quite clear and 
easy to follow.
  This device (Super Thumpy) is a modified version of Dr. Bob Beck's 
device (essentially the same as the current Sota device)which incorporates 
a modification to the original Thumpy variation of the Beck device.  Of the 
devices we constructed and tested, this unit gave the best performance 
--based upon cost/complexity considerations.  It is quite adequate in 
power, for most "layman-type" users.  Some may be interested in the Haining 
Pulser, which is a 240 vac device which is  MUCH more powerful, but does pose 
some safety considerations.  For the more adventurous types, just go to 
Richard's index page and scroll down to the word Haining (down in the 
electronic device section) for a circuit and limited general characters.
  The secret to making the Radio Shack party strobe powerful 
enough to do an adequate job is to increase the main capacitor strength.  
Richard settled for  a 200 uf capacitor rated at 450 vdc.  We found that a 
slightly  lower voltage and a higher microfarad rating worked somewhat better.  
The 300 mf capacitor at 320 VDC from Allied he recommends works quite well.
  However, I suggest a possible variationthat we used.  It is 
to use part number LPX331M400E7P3 400vdc (450 surge) X 320 MFD  by Mallory (it 
is stocked by Allied Electronics ( http://www.allied.avnet.com) I believe it 
costs about $9.00 and is well worth it.  It will fit quite nicely in the area 
where you remove the original capacitor from the top of the circuit board, of 
the little party strobe.  Do remember that the Negative (-) capacitor lead is 
on the side where the black stripe is painted.
  Remember, all you are doing is inserting an electro-magnet in 
series with the strobe light.  I am trying to download a couple of zoom photos 
of one of the units we modified.to show "exactly" which lead from the 
strobe light we cut and spliced the coil (magnet wire coil assembly) leads into.
  The Radio Shack strobe unit costs about $35.00 and works very 
well.
  I do not know, exactly, what the coil Richard recommends costs.as we 
wound all of our own on old VCR tape cores...using #16 magnet wire.  
  The knob on the front becomes a fine frequency control.  Just 
advance in a CW direction until the unit is firing at the desired frequency.  
We have found that about once every 1.5 to 2.0 seconds gives superlative 
results for most applications.  For a little more power.set to about a 3.0 
second firing frequency. 
  NO commercial unit we evaluated gave results comparable to 
this little "shop-built" unit.  The Haining unit is much more powerful..but 
does pose some possible hazards to the unskilled population.  Additionally, the 
power levels are so high we have not established reliable safety 
parameters.for general use.
  This is not a challenging project and does not require any 
special skills.other than being able to use a soldering iron, wire cutters, 
stripper, a screwdriver---and some common sense.
  If you strike a snagjust give me a post.
  Good Luck Sincerely,  Brooks Bradley.  
  p.s.  I recommend you use a 1/8" drill bit in an electric drill and bore 
about 10 well spaced holes in each side and the top ---of the strobe unit 
cover.  This greatly assists in giving enough ventilation to prevent 
overheating.during prolonged use.  Otherwise, I suggest you use a small fan 
to keep the unit from experiencing a shortened life-from lengthy periods of 
sustained use.

Re: CS> Magnetic Pulser & Red LEDs

[Sally Khanna]

I went to the website.  Since they are not allowed to say much in favor of 
their instruments, I cannot descern which might suit my purpose, but am very 
interested ingetting either a zapper, magnetic pulser, silver pulser.  
 
I'd like to know the differerences between these three.  Could those of you who 
have working knowledge of these, kindly email me?   
 
Thanks much,
 
Sally

Douglas Haack  wrote:
Marshall and good Listers


USE site: http://sotainstruments.com/

Works great!

I love my Pulser, also from Sota. I couldn't live without it. Helps my arthritic
hip -- makes my life and any walking activity possible!!

I emailed them and asked for a "refurbished one". This was some 3 years ago and 
I
was given a discount of of some 25%. If they have any in stock, they'll discount
it. People do return them sometimes.

I coundn't be without mine. Went on a 8 day cruise and forgot my Pulser. Was in
great pain by day eight.

The airport screeners will open your bag when packed in a suitcase or carry-on
luggage. I now have a 72 arrray RED LED light gadget -- travels less
conspicuously. Works well on the hip -- not as good as the pulser. The pulser is
more bulky.

I believe the LED light may not penetrate into the hip deeply enough. The LED
seems good for arthritic hand pain, knees etc.

It's still early on the LED, I've only used it some 3/4 weeks (the sit:
http://theledman.net/). I've settled on the two while watching TV or reading.
It's a nightly routine and I couldn't live without it!!

in SILvation, Douglas H


Marshall Dudley wrote:

> A friend of my daughter has ataxia. Reading up on it, I think the best shot
> at helping would be CS and gatorade and using a magnetic pulsar. I have one
> which I got from Sota ( http://sota-inc.com ). But that web site seems to no
> longer be working. Are they out of business? If so, who would be recommended
> for a supplier for this device now?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Marshall
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Re: CS> Magnetic Pulser & Red LEDs

[Brickeyk]

I bought a mag pulser (reconditioned) from Sota for 1/2 price on one of their 
sales about 4 years ago.  They said it would not be guaranteed. It quit 
working after several years and Sota still fixed it for no charge!  I had 
something 
growing on the bottom of one foot that was hard and pointed, hurt to step on 
it.  I used the mag pulser on it and it went away in about one week.  I also 
use it on my glands under my mouth and I can see the puff is gone.

I ordered a 72 LED array from V last week, the 660 and 880 nm combination.  I 
have used my own 900 nm cold laser since the early 1980's and it is great for 
pain relief.  Don't use it for kidney stone relief.  I did, and when the DR 
operated because the kidney was blocked he found 3 kidney stones covered with 
skin blocking the outlet.  Another time I was stung 25 times and tried my laser 
again.  Within minutes I was covered with water blisters and had to go to the 
hospital emergency room.  A DR sat next to my bed until I was released after 
taking Chloro-trimetons by the handful. I had a molar tooth pulled and part of 
my jaw bone came with it as I am one of the weird types that have 4 roots on 
my teeth.  The Dentist wrote me a prescription for Emperine-Codeine and I told 
him I was not going to buy it.  He said you will be sorry when you wake up at 
2 AM in a world of hurt and the drug stores are closed.  I started using my 
laser as soon as I got home and never had any more pain than when under his 
medication.  It took 3 weeks for my body to close the huge hole in my jaw.  My 
wife stepped on one of our little kittens and its back came to a point, it 
could 
 not use its back legs.  I had my grand kids laser the kitten for 30 minutes, 
actually they gave up around 25 minutes.  The kitten ran off using all four 
legs!

Brickey

Re: CS>magnetic pulser & nose stinging?

[Pamela Grant]

Have you ever heard of "lymphasizing"?--a type of do-it-yourself massage

Pam





>Hello everyone!
>
>
>
>Well, I was just wondering what exactly the magnetic pulser is good for??
>I think it will benifit me but am not sure and $250.. that is a lot of
>money..does anyone know if there is a cheaper model? I am just trying to
>find out if it is worth the money or not. Would some kind of magnets do
>the same thing?? Anyone seen any benifits using just that specifically? I
>used the silver pulser for a while and it didn't help me much..but the
>lymph glands seem to be a good idea to cleanse right now in my case :0)
>What about your liver? I did a detoxification profile and my liver has
>more toxins than it can deal with.
>
>
>
>Also, I have had this symtom for a LONG time and wonder if ANYONE can give
>me any insite? I do have Lyme and cfs. Now ever since I got ill after I
>had mono I get this stinging in my nose like there is liquid in there or
>something. It lasts a few seconds and in the begining hurt a lot! has
>anyone here ever experienced this?? Any thoughts on what can cause it? I
>am on the eat right for your blood type diet and avoid foods that I know I
>have sensitivities too from an allergy test.
>
>
>
>Thanks!
>
>
>
>Nicole :O)
>
>
>
>PS, I am not able to take CS because I have dysbiosis and it didn't really
>give me the results I had hoped and may have made that worse.   :0( Does
>anyone have any info on lyme therapies besides olive leaf that I can do to
>help? I am aware of the beck protocal, but is there any other herbs or
>treatments?? my body is FAR to weak for any drugs right now and I doubt
>after the trouble one antibiotic caused me that I would take them again!
>
>
>
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Re: CS>magnetic pulser & nose stinging?

[Henry Reed]

Sota Instruments sometimes has used magnetic pulsers for 100.00 $.  I
have one and it works well.

Pamela Grant wrote:
> 
> Have you ever heard of "lymphasizing"?--a type of do-it-yourself massage
> 
> Pam
> 
> >Hello everyone!
> >
> >
> >
> >Well, I was just wondering what exactly the magnetic pulser is good for??
> >I think it will benifit me but am not sure and $250.. that is a lot of
> >money..does anyone know if there is a cheaper model? I am just trying to
> >find out if it is worth the money or not. Would some kind of magnets do
> >the same thing?? Anyone seen any benifits using just that specifically? I
> >used the silver pulser for a while and it didn't help me much..but the
> >lymph glands seem to be a good idea to cleanse right now in my case :0)
> >What about your liver? I did a detoxification profile and my liver has
> >more toxins than it can deal with.
> >
> >
> >
> >Also, I have had this symtom for a LONG time and wonder if ANYONE can give
> >me any insite? I do have Lyme and cfs. Now ever since I got ill after I
> >had mono I get this stinging in my nose like there is liquid in there or
> >something. It lasts a few seconds and in the begining hurt a lot! has
> >anyone here ever experienced this?? Any thoughts on what can cause it? I
> >am on the eat right for your blood type diet and avoid foods that I know I
> >have sensitivities too from an allergy test.
> >
> >
> >
> >Thanks!
> >
> >
> >
> >Nicole :O)
> >
> >
> >
> >PS, I am not able to take CS because I have dysbiosis and it didn't really
> >give me the results I had hoped and may have made that worse.   :0( Does
> >anyone have any info on lyme therapies besides olive leaf that I can do to
> >help? I am aware of the beck protocal, but is there any other herbs or
> >treatments?? my body is FAR to weak for any drugs right now and I doubt
> >after the trouble one antibiotic caused me that I would take them again!
> >
> >
> >
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Re: CS>magnetic pulser & nose stinging?

[Nicole Fraser]

 No, I don't think so?... but has anyone tried Qigong..? I hear that is good at 
detoxing the lymphatic system! :0)

Nicole :O)


  Pamela Grant  wrote: 
Have you ever heard of "lymphasizing"?--a type of do-it-yourself massage

Pam





>Hello everyone!
>
>
>
>Well, I was just wondering what exactly the magnetic pulser is good for??
>I think it will benifit me but am not sure and $250.. that is a lot of
>money..does anyone know if there is a cheaper model? I am just trying to
>find out if it is worth the money or not. Would some kind of magnets do
>the same thing?? Anyone seen any benifits using just that specifically? I
>used the silver pulser for a while and it didn't help me much..but the
>lymph glands seem to be a good idea to cleanse right now in my case :0)
>What about your liver? I did a detoxification profile and my liver has
>more toxins than it can deal with.
>
>
>
>Also, I have had this symtom for a LONG time and wonder if ANYONE can give
>me any insite? I do have Lyme and cfs. Now ever since I got ill after I
>had mono I get this stinging in my nose like there is liquid in there or
>something. It lasts a few seconds and in the begining hurt a lot! has
>anyone here ever experienced this?? Any thoughts on what can cause it? I
>am on the eat right for your blood type diet and avoid foods that I know I
>have sensitivities too from an allergy test.
>
>
>
>Thanks!
>
>
>
>Nicole :O)
>
>
>
>PS, I am not able to take CS because I have dysbiosis and it didn't really
>give me the results I had hoped and may have made that worse. :0( Does
>anyone have any info on lyme therapies besides olive leaf that I can do to
>help? I am aware of the beck protocal, but is there any other herbs or
>treatments?? my body is FAR to weak for any drugs right now and I doubt
>after the trouble one antibiotic caused me that I would take them again!
>
>
>
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> Send instant messages with Yahoo! Messenger.




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