Re: CS>Ionic foot baths
Peter, are all foot baths ionic? Mary -- Original message from "Peter Converse" : -- Hi Aldi, If you make this detox foot bath setup and do it all in one tub, as I have tried for interest sake, you will find the color of the water changing similarly to that of a commercial unit. In a two tub system you will notice only a faint discoloration of the water in comparison and a change in smell which is mostly due to the ionizing effect on the stainless steel spoons. What causes the orange (rusty) coloration in the water in a single tub arrangement are the iron oxides being released from the stainless steel during the process.This happens in a pronounced way only when the two electrodes are in the same tub and it becomes more pronounced the closer they are to one another due to the current being proportionally higher and causing the metals to be torn off during electrolysis at a greater rate. This will happen whether or not your feet are in the tub (same as in a commercially available unit). I have experimented with these foot baths a little to satisfy my curiosity. Impurities in the water can also influence the resulting color as could the salt and anything in it. That being said, many people, including myself, have noticed dark, smelly, scummy material in the water while using a good commercial model to detoxify which cannot be explained away by externals, in my opinion, and seems to clearly point to toxins coming out of the body. This may be debated forever by those for and those against the concept being a reality. There seems to be people of both camps willing to argue this one out till the cows come home. I have a commercial model also (a Pedi-Flex) and believe that it has helped me to detoxify but I have no empirical evidence such as heavy metal tests to back up my beliefs, just subjective observations. I doubt that you could use your Colloid Master for this purpose and I wouldn't recommending trying. Making my own two tub foot bath last year cost me about $12 in parts I think. It's about as cheap as it gets and simple to make. Have fun! Blessings, Peter - Original Message - From: Golden Aldi To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2009 5:29 AM Subject: Re: CS>Ionic foot baths Thanks so much Peter. This is something I was looking for... and you see, the ionic foot baths have a color generator built in, so what does that tell you... That you don't have to buy any of these foot baths, but can make your own. I have the colloid master model to make my CS, so could I possibly use that same generator to put into the foot bath to get the same effects? Aldi On Sat, Jul 11, 2009 at 8:09 PM, Peter Converse <pconve...@primus.ca> wrote: Hi Folks,Here's an interesting article written by Dr. Richard Loyd about detox foot baths. His recommendation is to use a two tub setup rather than a one. He has some ideas here which have produced good results. He also provides, in addition to a more complex design, a diagram of a very simple detox foot bath which can be made for a few bucks encorporating a 9V battery, a battery harness, a couple of stainless steel spoons, two plastic tubs available from Walmart, water and sea salt.http://www.royalrife.com/mold_toxins.pdfBlessings,Peter- Original Message - From: "ccdirectt" <ccdire...@yahoo.com>To: <silver-list@eskimo.com>Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2009 8:06 AMSubject: Re: CS>Ionic foot baths I tried it once with a chiropractor.I think it kinda put some stain on my kidneys.I posted this photo on curezone.You can see it pulled something out of me. This are before & after photo.http://curezone.com/ig/i.asp?i=15299--The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver.Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.orgTo post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.comAddress Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.comThe Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down...List maintainer: Mike Devour <mdev...@eskimo.com>
Re: CS>Ionic foot baths
Hi Aldi,
If you make this detox foot bath setup and do it all in one tub, as I have
tried for interest sake, you will find the color of the water changing
similarly to that of a commercial unit. In a two tub system you will notice
only a faint discoloration of the water in comparison and a change in smell
which is mostly due to the ionizing effect on the stainless steel spoons.
What causes the orange (rusty) coloration in the water in a single tub
arrangement are the iron oxides being released from the stainless steel during
the process.This happens in a pronounced way only when the two electrodes are
in the same tub and it becomes more pronounced the closer they are to one
another due to the current being proportionally higher and causing the metals
to be torn off during electrolysis at a greater rate. This will happen whether
or not your feet are in the tub (same as in a commercially available unit). I
have experimented with these foot baths a little to satisfy my curiosity.
Impurities in the water can also influence the resulting color as could the
salt and anything in it. That being said, many people, including myself, have
noticed dark, smelly, scummy material in the water while using a good
commercial model to detoxify which cannot be explained away by externals, in my
opinion, and seems to clearly point to toxins coming out of the body. This may
be debated forever by those for and those against the concept being a reality.
There seems to be people of both camps willing to argue this one out till the
cows come home.
I have a commercial model also (a Pedi-Flex) and believe that it has helped me
to detoxify but I have no empirical evidence such as heavy metal tests to back
up my beliefs, just subjective observations.
I doubt that you could use your Colloid Master for this purpose and I wouldn't
recommending trying. Making my own two tub foot bath last year cost me about
$12 in parts I think. It's about as cheap as it gets and simple to make.
Have fun!
Blessings,
Peter
- Original Message -
From: Golden Aldi
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2009 5:29 AM
Subject: Re: CS>Ionic foot baths
Thanks so much Peter. This is something I was looking for... and you see, the
ionic foot baths have a color generator built in, so what does that tell you...
That you don't have to buy any of these foot baths, but can make your own.
I have the colloid master model to make my CS, so could I possibly use that
same generator to put into the foot bath to get the same effects?
Aldi
On Sat, Jul 11, 2009 at 8:09 PM, Peter Converse wrote:
Hi Folks,
Here's an interesting article written by Dr. Richard Loyd about detox foot
baths. His recommendation is to use a two tub setup rather than a one. He has
some ideas here which have produced good results. He also provides, in addition
to a more complex design, a diagram of a very simple detox foot bath which can
be made for a few bucks encorporating a 9V battery, a battery harness, a couple
of stainless steel spoons, two plastic tubs available from Walmart, water and
sea salt.
http://www.royalrife.com/mold_toxins.pdf
Blessings,
Peter
- Original Message - From: "ccdirectt"
To:
Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2009 8:06 AM
Subject: Re: CS>Ionic foot baths
I tried it once with a chiropractor.I think it kinda put some stain on my
kidneys.I posted this photo on curezone.You can see it pulled something out of
me. This are before & after photo.
http://curezone.com/ig/i.asp?i=15299
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Re: CS>Ionic foot baths
Hi Sam, I have tried using 4.5 V, 6V, 9V and a Hulda Clark zapper. They all seem to work but my favorite is the 9V with a 10K potentiometer in line to adjust the current according to feel. If you have a homemade Godzilla blood electrification unit you can use it for its 10K pot and reversing switch with the detox foot bath setup. I should mention too that I suspended the spoons from above and put alligator clips on the battery wire ends to connect to the spoons. You'll find that the amount of sea salt you add to the water (premixed separately in a bowl of hot water then added to the tubs works best if you don't like your foot bath temperature hot) will affect the conductivity considerably, especially when the battery is new so experiment with your salt amounts. If the tingle seems too uncomfortable just dump out some of your salty water and refill with plain water. You can put an ammeter in line with your battery and measure your mA to get an idea of the ratio of salt to water which provides just the right current and feeling for you. Once you have that established you're off to the races. Some people say that this system should also kill pathogens as the current passes up through one leg and back down the other to complete the circuit. I have also used my hands in the tubs as well as combinations of each hand and opposing foot. Depending on your situation you may notice some die-off from the procedure. Have fun experimenting! This is not medical advice. Blessings, Peter - Original Message - From: Sam L. To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2009 6:34 PM Subject: Re: CS>Ionic foot baths Thanks Peter I made one today, I wouldn't use a 9 volt though, start with 3 or 6 volts. I'm using 6 volts and can really feel it. Sam L. On Sat, Jul 11, 2009 at 1:09 PM, Peter Converse wrote: Hi Folks, Here's an interesting article written by Dr. Richard Loyd about detox foot baths. His recommendation is to use a two tub setup rather than a one. He has some ideas here which have produced good results. He also provides, in addition to a more complex design, a diagram of a very simple detox foot bath which can be made for a few bucks encorporating a 9V battery, a battery harness, a couple of stainless steel spoons, two plastic tubs available from Walmart, water and sea salt. http://www.royalrife.com/mold_toxins.pdf Blessings, Peter - Original Message - From: "ccdirectt" To: Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2009 8:06 AM Subject: Re: CS>Ionic foot baths I tried it once with a chiropractor.I think it kinda put some stain on my kidneys.I posted this photo on curezone.You can see it pulled something out of me. This are before & after photo. http://curezone.com/ig/i.asp?i=15299 -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour -- A government big enough to give you everything you want is big enough to take everything you have.
Re: CS>Ionic foot baths - 2 tub warning!!!
I don't think I will try this method. By using a separate tub for each foot you have created a water ionizer using your body as the permeable membrane. Whatever impurities are in the water in tub 1 will be drawn through your body towards tub 2. Likely depositing in your cells all along the way. This method would poison you instead of detoxing you! David At 01:09 PM 7/11/2009, you wrote: Hi Folks, Here's an interesting article written by Dr. Richard Loyd about detox foot baths. His recommendation is to use a two tub setup rather than a one. He has some ideas here which have produced good results. He also provides, in addition to a more complex design, a diagram of a very simple detox foot bath which can be made for a few bucks encorporating a 9V battery, a battery harness, a couple of stainless steel spoons, two plastic tubs available from Walmart, water and sea salt. http://www.royalrife.com/mold_toxins.pdf Blessings, Peter -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Ionic foot baths
Thanks so much Peter. This is something I was looking for... and you see, the ionic foot baths have a color generator built in, so what does that tell you... That you don't have to buy any of these foot baths, but can make your own. I have the colloid master model to make my CS, so could I possibly use that same generator to put into the foot bath to get the same effects? Aldi On Sat, Jul 11, 2009 at 8:09 PM, Peter Converse wrote: > Hi Folks, > > Here's an interesting article written by Dr. Richard Loyd about detox foot > baths. His recommendation is to use a two tub setup rather than a one. He > has some ideas here which have produced good results. He also provides, in > addition to a more complex design, a diagram of a very simple detox foot > bath which can be made for a few bucks encorporating a 9V battery, a battery > harness, a couple of stainless steel spoons, two plastic tubs available from > Walmart, water and sea salt. > > http://www.royalrife.com/mold_toxins.pdf > > Blessings, > > Peter > > > - Original Message - From: "ccdirectt" > To: > Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2009 8:06 AM > Subject: Re: CS>Ionic foot baths > > > I tried it once with a chiropractor.I think it kinda put some stain on my >> kidneys.I posted this photo on curezone.You can see it pulled something out >> of me. This are before & after photo. >> http://curezone.com/ig/i.asp?i=15299 >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. >> >> Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org >> >> To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com >> >> Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com >> >> The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... >> >> List maintainer: Mike Devour >> >> >> >
Re: CS>Ionic foot baths
Thanks Peter I made one today, I wouldn't use a 9 volt though, start with 3 or 6 volts. I'm using 6 volts and can really feel it. Sam L. On Sat, Jul 11, 2009 at 1:09 PM, Peter Converse wrote: > Hi Folks, > > Here's an interesting article written by Dr. Richard Loyd about detox foot > baths. His recommendation is to use a two tub setup rather than a one. He > has some ideas here which have produced good results. He also provides, in > addition to a more complex design, a diagram of a very simple detox foot > bath which can be made for a few bucks encorporating a 9V battery, a battery > harness, a couple of stainless steel spoons, two plastic tubs available from > Walmart, water and sea salt. > > http://www.royalrife.com/mold_toxins.pdf > > Blessings, > > Peter > > > - Original Message - From: "ccdirectt" > To: > Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2009 8:06 AM > Subject: Re: CS>Ionic foot baths > > > > I tried it once with a chiropractor.I think it kinda put some stain on my >> kidneys.I posted this photo on curezone.You can see it pulled something out >> of me. This are before & after photo. >> http://curezone.com/ig/i.asp?i=15299 >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. >> >> Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org >> >> To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com >> >> Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com >> >> The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... >> >> List maintainer: Mike Devour >> >> >> > -- A government big enough to give you everything you want is big enough to take everything you have.
Re: CS>Ionic foot baths
Hi Folks, Here's an interesting article written by Dr. Richard Loyd about detox foot baths. His recommendation is to use a two tub setup rather than a one. He has some ideas here which have produced good results. He also provides, in addition to a more complex design, a diagram of a very simple detox foot bath which can be made for a few bucks encorporating a 9V battery, a battery harness, a couple of stainless steel spoons, two plastic tubs available from Walmart, water and sea salt. http://www.royalrife.com/mold_toxins.pdf Blessings, Peter - Original Message - From: "ccdirectt" To: Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2009 8:06 AM Subject: Re: CS>Ionic foot baths I tried it once with a chiropractor.I think it kinda put some stain on my kidneys.I posted this photo on curezone.You can see it pulled something out of me. This are before & after photo. http://curezone.com/ig/i.asp?i=15299 -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Ionic foot baths from Ode.
At 02:34 PM 7/10/2009 -0700, you wrote: Tel Tofflemire Dewey, AZ. --- On Fri, 7/10/09, Ode Coyote wrote: From: Ode Coyote Subject: Re: CS>Ionic foot baths and foot lore To: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Friday, July 10, 2009, 5:28 AM So, what is the dead short current limit on them? Ode You are protected by a 3 wire GFCI outlet adapter, I think around 3 amps, without looking it up. I know just touching the wires together will shut it off, No shock. I know it is not as much as the Colloidal Master, it shuts off by either way, 1. reaching your dialed in preset limit of PPM, 1---to--10 or 2. just touching the electrodes together, breaks the flow of current. ## Shorting the electrodes drops the voltage to near zero so that the current will stay constant. Colloid Master, Silvergen and SilverPuppy all work that way. It's also a standard current overload protection circuit on most good audio amplifiers so you don't blow out the amp if the speaker wires get shorted. In the CS generators, when the voltage goes below somewhere around 6 volts [or whatever the reference is, set by the dial]...to keep that current constant a voltage *comparator* circuit turns the machine off. [auto off] The current control circuit alone, won't turn anything off. Put an ammeter on the footbath electrodes and get how many milliamps it puts out at dead short. An ammeter in series without a resistive load also in series, is a dead short. A GFCI is a last resort fail safe to prevent death should controls malfunction. Ode Did you get that Ode? Tel -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Ionic foot baths
I tried it once with a chiropractor.I think it kinda put some stain on my kidneys.I posted this photo on curezone.You can see it pulled something out of me. This are before & after photo. http://curezone.com/ig/i.asp?i=15299 -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Ionic foot baths from Ode.
Tel, I am following this discussion on foot baths and I am very interested. I have a question, I usually soak my feet in magnesium oil can this be done with the foot bath? Use mag oil instead of water?? Or maybe a cup of mag oil in water??. What say you?? Mary -- Original message from Tel Tofflemire : -- Tel TofflemireDewey, AZ.--- On Fri, 7/10/09, Ode Coyote wrote: From: Ode Coyote Subject: Re: CS>Ionic foot baths and foot loreTo: silver-list@eskimo.comDate: Friday, July 10, 2009, 5:28 AM So, what is the dead short current limit on them? Ode You are protected by a 3 wire GFCI outlet adapter, I think around 3 amps, without looking it up. I know just touching the wires together will shut it off, No shock. I know it is not as much as the Colloidal Master, it shuts off by either way, 1. reaching your dialed in preset limit of PPM, 1---to--10 or 2. just touching the electrodes together, breaks the flow of current. Did you get that Ode? Tel
Re: CS>Ionic foot baths from Ode.
Tel Tofflemire Dewey, AZ. --- On Fri, 7/10/09, Ode Coyote wrote: From: Ode Coyote Subject: Re: CS>Ionic foot baths and foot lore To: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Friday, July 10, 2009, 5:28 AM So, what is the dead short current limit on them? Ode You are protected by a 3 wire GFCI outlet adapter, I think around 3 amps, without looking it up. I know just touching the wires together will shut it off, No shock. I know it is not as much as the Colloidal Master, it shuts off by either way, 1. reaching your dialed in preset limit of PPM, 1---to--10or 2. just touching the electrodes together, breaks the flow of current. Did you get that Ode?Tel
Re: CS>Ionic foot baths
Hey Carlene Thanks for this. My sentiments exactly. If this is true and these foot baths really do detox the body, I want to buy one and share it will my family and friends. But before I start screaming it's praises from the highest mountain, I would like a little more proof than just dirty water. I go back to someone on the list stating that these foot baths throw off the electrical system??? of the body or something like that? if the person is still on the list can you repeat what you said??? This is not an accusation, it's a question. So please nobody eat my face off. Gladys - Original Message - From: Carlene Yasak Date: Friday, July 10, 2009 11:18 am Subject: CS>Ionic foot baths To: silver-list@eskimo.com > Dear Mr. Toffelmire, > > I respect your opinion which I am sure is based on years of > experience. As a > consumer of numerous health care products for many years--like > yourself, I > like to get information from many sources. If the information > comes from a > vendor, I must admit that I will probably take it with a grain > of salt. > > Do you know of any clinical trials or other testing from independent > research organisations for the foot baths? As someone on the > sliver-list > has pointed out, the information available on the internet on > the ionic foot > baths comes primarily from vendors and information about the > biochemistry of > the detox process itself is lacking. You would be doing all > interestedparties a great service if you could shed light on this. > > It is also true that water can change color in the foot baths without > exposure to toxins: tap water varies greatly in mineral content > from one > region to another--and most foot baths require the addition of a pinch > of low sodium salt to the bath water to assure conductivity. > > Lack of information naturally leaves room for speculation, doubt and > accusations of quackery--to which EIS/CS has itself been > subjected over the > years. I myself tried several ionic foot baths and finally > bought one in the > U.K. nearly four years ago. I have never had a serious health > problem so I > can only attest to its usefullness in prevention. I use my ionic > foot bath > for hygienic purposes--detox; it is one of the things I choose > to do along > with other lifestyle choices that include exercise, eating whole > foods, taking a wide array of supplements, meditating, listening to > uplifting music and spending time in silence in nature. I also > use EIS > liberally in all my personal care products which I generally > make myself, as > well as in the kitchen. > > I look forward to learning more from the experience and research > of list > members.. > > Best wishes, > Carlene >
CS>Ionic foot baths
Dear Mr. Toffelmire, I respect your opinion which I am sure is based on years of experience. As a consumer of numerous health care products for many years--like yourself, I like to get information from many sources. If the information comes from a vendor, I must admit that I will probably take it with a grain of salt. Do you know of any clinical trials or other testing from independent research organisations for the foot baths? As someone on the sliver-list has pointed out, the information available on the internet on the ionic foot baths comes primarily from vendors and information about the biochemistry of the detox process itself is lacking. You would be doing all interested parties a great service if you could shed light on this. It is also true that water can change color in the foot baths without exposure to toxins: tap water varies greatly in mineral content from one region to another--and most foot baths require the addition of a pinch of low sodium salt to the bath water to assure conductivity. Lack of information naturally leaves room for speculation, doubt and accusations of quackery--to which EIS/CS has itself been subjected over the years. I myself tried several ionic foot baths and finally bought one in the U.K. nearly four years ago. I have never had a serious health problem so I can only attest to its usefullness in prevention. I use my ionic foot bath for hygienic purposes--detox; it is one of the things I choose to do along with other lifestyle choices that include exercise, eating whole foods, taking a wide array of supplements, meditating, listening to uplifting music and spending time in silence in nature. I also use EIS liberally in all my personal care products which I generally make myself, as well as in the kitchen. I look forward to learning more from the experience and research of list members.. Best wishes, Carlene
Re: CS>Ionic foot baths and foot lore
So, what is the dead short current limit on them? Ode At 02:24 PM 7/9/2009 -0700, you wrote: That is all perfect advice Carlene, However, Your hearing a wife's tale about the original inventor of the foot bath, they have been used for as long as I can remember, I am near 70 years old. They have come and gone in popularity. They are back now for some years. The ones I sell (5 different models ) Range from $515.00 down to $380.00 They all have the same transformer,13 .8 volt preset regulated power supply and Ground Fault protector, and tub of different sizes to fit the model . My professional model six 8 inch long x 1/2 inch dia. stainless steel rods in an array . and holds almost 5 gallons of water. I have sold many to Dr's, and other Medical professionals. But I am sure some one could make there own just like the homemade CS makers, That work but not perfectly. Tel Tofflemire Dewey, AZ. --- On Thu, 7/9/09, Carlene Yasak wrote: From: Carlene Yasak Subject: CS>Ionic foot baths and foot lore To: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Thursday, July 9, 2009, 5:59 AM A personal experience. I bought an ionic foot bath several years ago for myself after testing several models. They were invented by an Australian more than 10 years ago. He has been copied and now there is a wide price range from those for the home ($150 US) to professional modesl (++ $2,000 US). You get what you pay for, however, the main difference is the quality of the metals used to make the array and its size (stainless steel, steel and copper). It's just a plastic basin, a transformer, a timer, an array and two cords. I'm sure someone of the Silver list could tell us how to make one for $30 or less. :) The cheaper models are not as effective for detox; they still do the job, you just have to do more sessions to get the same result. The baths definitely draw out toxins. You can see them and smell them in the bath water. Still, they will not detox your body overnight or in three sessions. I don't know of anything that will. Some precautions: Do not use them if you have a pacemaker or dental implants. You need to take a mineral supplement if you do a series of foot baths, because they draw out minerals along with everything else. Never do more than two a week. An infra red sauna will do the same thing and more, but then it's not in the same price range. __ I once met an elderly gentleman from Virginia who was head of the department of pediatrics at the Univ. of Richmond, He soaked his feet in warm water with epsom salts every night and he swore those nightly foot baths were the reason he had never been sick a day in his life. It's worth a try. It's nice to see you back, Mike! Blessings, Carlene -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Ionic foot baths and foot lore
bit like colloidal silver. dee On 9 Jul 2009, at 22:24, Tel Tofflemire wrote: That is all perfect advice Carlene, However, Your hearing a wife's tale about the original inventor of the foot bath, they have been used for as long as I can remember, I am near 70 years old. They have come and gone in popularity. They are back now for some years.
Re: CS>Ionic foot baths and foot lore
That is all perfect advice Carlene, However, Your hearing a wife's tale about the original inventor of the foot bath, they have been used for as long as I can remember, I am near 70 years old. They have come and gone in popularity. They are back now for some years. The ones I sell (5 different models ) Range from $515.00 down to $380.00 They all have the same transformer,13 .8 volt preset regulated power supply and Ground Fault protector, and tub of different sizes to fit the model . My professional model six 8 inch long x 1/2 inch dia. stainless steel rods in an array . and holds almost 5 gallons of water. I have sold many to Dr's, and other Medical professionals.But I am sure some one could make there own just like the homemade CS makers,That work but not perfectly. Tel Tofflemire Dewey, AZ. --- On Thu, 7/9/09, Carlene Yasak wrote: From: Carlene Yasak Subject: CS>Ionic foot baths and foot lore To: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Thursday, July 9, 2009, 5:59 AM A personal experience. I bought an ionic foot bath several years ago for myself after testing several models. They were invented by an Australian more than 10 years ago. He has been copied and now there is a wide price range from those for the home ($150 US) to professional modesl (++ $2,000 US). You get what you pay for, however, the main difference is the quality of the metals used to make the array and its size (stainless steel, steel and copper). It's just a plastic basin, a transformer, a timer, an array and two cords. I'm sure someone of the Silver list could tell us how to make one for $30 or less. :) The cheaper models are not as effective for detox; they still do the job, you just have to do more sessions to get the same result. The baths definitely draw out toxins. You can see them and smell them in the bath water. Still, they will not detox your body overnight or in three sessions. I don't know of anything that will. Some precautions: Do not use them if you have a pacemaker or dental implants. You need to take a mineral supplement if you do a series of foot baths, because they draw out minerals along with everything else. Never do more than two a week. An infra red sauna will do the same thing and more, but then it's not in the same price range. __ I once met an elderly gentleman from Virginia who was head of the department of pediatrics at the Univ. of Richmond, He soaked his feet in warm water with epsom salts every night and he swore those nightly foot baths were the reason he had never been sick a day in his life. It's worth a try. It's nice to see you back, Mike! Blessings, Carlene
Re: CS>IONIC FOOT BATHS
How can we make our own ionic foot baths, without having to go to someone, or buy an expensive machine. I've tried the footpad myself once, but since it was once, I really can't say. It was years ago, after becoming afflicted with Fibromyalgia, but I remember that I wasn't all that impressed or felt better. When I did research on the foot pads, I found that there were different ingredients in the pads, and they are pricey. I'm all for "doing-it-yourself", money doesn't grow on trees, and its best in invest in materials needed to be able to DIY, than spending what to me, loads of money for something I can only get when affordable, and not have whenever needed. So, is there a way to make your own ionic foot baths? Can I use the generator? Aldona On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 9:59 PM, Tel Tofflemire wrote: >
CS>Ionic foot baths and foot lore
*A personal experience.* ** I bought an ionic foot bath several years ago for myself after testing several models. They were invented by an Australian more than 10 years ago. He has been copied and now there is a wide price range from those for the home ($150 US) to professional modesl (++ $2,000 US). You get what you pay for, however, the main difference is the quality of the metals used to make the array and its size (stainless steel, steel and copper). It's just a plastic basin, a transformer, a timer, an array and two cords. I'm sure someone of the Silver list could tell us how to make one for $30 or less. :) The cheaper models are not as effective for detox; they still do the job, you just have to do more sessions to get the same result. The baths definitely draw out toxins. You can see them and smell them in the bath water. Still, they will not detox your body overnight or in three sessions. I don't know of anything that will. Some precautions: Do not use them if you have a pacemaker or dental implants. You need to take a mineral supplement if you do a series of foot baths, because they draw out minerals along with everything else. Never do more than two a week. An infra red sauna will do the same thing and more, but then it's not in the same price range. __ I once met an elderly gentleman from Virginia who was head of the department of pediatrics at the Univ. of Richmond, He soaked his feet in warm water with epsom salts every night and he swore those nightly foot baths were the reason he had never been sick a day in his life. It's worth a try. It's nice to see you back, Mike! Blessings, Carlene
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As with ANY alternative treatments, nothing beats personal experience. What was yours? You can find naysayers for ALL of it including megavitamins and CS. I depend on MY results, naysayers be damned... Chuck Man is a rational animal who always loses his temper when he is called upon to act in accordance with the dictates of reason. - Oscar Wilde On 7/8/2009 5:28:56 PM, Gladys Williams (gwms...@optonline.net) wrote: > Hey Tel--- I began my comment with Im not trying to rain on anyones > parade. AND I did indeed have an ionic foot bath. There was a lot of > horrible looking black, green, etc nasty looking stuff in the water > afterward. I thought I had discovered something wonderful. > > I googled it to get more info and was surprised to read mixed opinions. > I was directed to a site where they rate Natural Remedies. They stated > the whole Ionic foot bath thing was a total sham, and the so-called toxins > coming out of peoples feet was artificially created BECAUSE if you turn > the machine on the same icky looking stuff appears without your feet being > in the water. That is the reason I asked the SILVER LIST for info on the > FOOT BATH AND THE FOOT PADS. I was just repeating what was said on this > list. > > LETS BE CLEARI HAVE NO AFFILIATIONS AND THEREFORE MAKE NO MONEY FROM > ANY OF THIS. I HAVE NOTHING TO DEFEND. I AM NOT TRYING TO INSULT ANYONE > NOR DO I WISH TO WASTE TIME ARGUING. > > I AM JUST ASKING QUESTIONS. I THINK THAT IS THE REASON FOR THIS SITE. --- > --LEARNING > > SO IF YOU HAVE SOMETHING TO TEACH ME TEL -- I STAND READY TO > LEARN. > > THANK YOU, > No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.386 / Virus Database: 270.13.8/2224 - Release Date: 07/08/09 05:53:00
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Hey Tel--- I began my comment with I’m not trying to rain on anyone’s parade. AND I did indeed have an ionic foot bath. There was a lot of horrible looking black, green, etc nasty looking stuff in the water afterward. I thought I had discovered something wonderful. I googled it to get more info and was surprised to read mixed opinions.I was directed to a site where they rate Natural Remedies. They stated the whole Ionic foot bath thing was a total sham, and the so-called toxins coming out of peoples feet was artificially created BECAUSE if you turn the machine on the same icky looking stuff appears without your feet being in the water. That is the reason I asked the SILVER LIST for info on the FOOT BATH AND THE FOOT PADS. I was just repeating what was said on this list. LET’S BE CLEAR—I HAVE NO AFFILIATIONS AND THEREFORE MAKE NO MONEY FROM ANY OF THIS. I HAVE NOTHING TO DEFEND. I AM NOT TRYING TO INSULT ANYONE NOR DO I WISH TO WASTE TIME ARGUING. I AM JUST ASKING QUESTIONS. I THINK THAT IS THE REASON FOR THIS SITE. -LEARNING SO IF YOU HAVE SOMETHING TO TEACH ME TEL -- I STAND READY TO LEARN. THANK YOU, GLADYS From: Tel Tofflemire [mailto:telt...@yahoo.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 4:00 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Cc: (Gladys Williams Subject: Re: CS>IONIC FOOT BATHS Be careful of the things you profess, when you never have done it or talked to people who have done an Ionic foot bath. The Ionic is the same Ionic as the device you make CS with, know it or not. The Dr.'s in my area charge $65.00 per session, and have a waiting line. Quailwood herbal charges only $30.00 and I do them only for people who I feel would benefit." Like a Chemo patient." "or some one with great allergies." " Or people with high degrees of Liver & Kidney toxins " RE: water turning colored without the feet in it (Ha) That comes from those who can't sell drugs because we detoxify the body in 2 or 3 sessions, not several years. (By the way, depending on the water quality, and the amount of mineral in it, you can see some color in the water with out feet in it, but if you seen and smelled what I see and smell from people's feet's discharge, you would not have said what you said (Gladys Williams ) We only try to help people in our work, not stiff them. I have 100's of satisfied customers, thank you for your un-educated guess, ... Below.. Tel Tofflemire Dewey, AZ. http://www.quailwoodherbal.com --- On Wed, 7/8/09, Gladys Williams wrote: From: Subject: CS>IONIC FOOT BATHS To: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Wednesday, July 8, 2009, 10:05 AM Hey Gang-- Not trying to rain on anybody's parade. But a few years ago I had one of these ionic foot baths and asked the list if they were as good as the claims. Someone on the list said they throw off your body's electrical system?? Or something like that, can’t remember. Anyway, I Googled it and one investigative reporter said the water will turn black and icky whether you put your feet in or not??? Bottom line, they said the foot baths were not all they are cracked up to be. Just like the foot pads that are supposed to draw out toxins. Anyone know if they are good or not? Have they improved them? What is the benefit? And is there any benefit to adding CS to the solution? (Gladys Williams )
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Hi, Yes, but it could have been the placebo effect. However, they say if you feel better, then you are better. Jean *** On 7/8/09 4:09 PM, "Clayton Family" wrote: > The question would be did YOU feel any difference? > > On Jul 8, 2009, at 3:16 PM, Jean Baugh wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> This might be of interest. I had some foot pads and my friend and I >> tried a >> pair for one night. The color difference was impressive and vast >> between >> us. One pair was blackish brown and the other a distinct yellow. Do >> they >> work? Why not? >> >> -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
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The question would be did YOU feel any difference? On Jul 8, 2009, at 3:16 PM, Jean Baugh wrote: Hi, This might be of interest. I had some foot pads and my friend and I tried a pair for one night. The color difference was impressive and vast between us. One pair was blackish brown and the other a distinct yellow. Do they work? Why not? Jean *** Just like the foot pads that are supposed to draw out toxins. Anyone know if they are good or not? (Gladys Williams ) -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
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Hi, This might be of interest. I had some foot pads and my friend and I tried a pair for one night. The color difference was impressive and vast between us. One pair was blackish brown and the other a distinct yellow. Do they work? Why not? Jean *** Just like the > foot pads that are supposed to draw out toxins. Anyone know if they > are good or not? > (Gladys Williams ) > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
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Be careful of the things you profess, when you never have done it or talked to people who have done an Ionic foot bath. The Ionic is the same Ionic as the device you make CS with, know it or not. The Dr.'s in my area charge $65.00 per session, and have a waiting line.Quailwood herbal charges only $30.00 and I do them only for people who I feel would benefit." Like a Chemo patient." "or some one with great allergies." " Or people with high degrees of Liver & Kidney toxins " RE: water turning colored without the feet in it (Ha)That comes from those who can't sell drugs because we detoxify the body in 2 or 3 sessions, not several years. (By the way, depending on the water quality, and the amount of mineral in it, you can see some color in the water with out feet in it, but if you seen and smelled what I see and smell from people's feet's discharge, you would not have said what you said (Gladys Williams ) We only try to help people in our work, not stiff them. I have 100's of satisfied customers, thank you for your un-educated guess, ... Below..Tel Tofflemire Dewey, AZ. http://www.quailwoodherbal.com --- On Wed, 7/8/09, Gladys Williams wrote: From: Subject: CS>IONIC FOOT BATHS To: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Wednesday, July 8, 2009, 10:05 AM Hey Gang-- Not trying to rain on anybody's parade. But a few years ago I had one of these ionic foot baths and asked the list if they were as good as the claims. Someone on the list said they throw off your body's electrical system?? Or something like that, can’t remember. Anyway, I Googled it and one investigative reporter said the water will turn black and icky whether you put your feet in or not??? Bottom line, they said the foot baths were not all they are cracked up to be. Just like the foot pads that are supposed to draw out toxins. Anyone know if they are good or not? Have they improved them? What is the benefit? And is there any benefit to adding CS to the solution? (Gladys Williams )
CS>IONIC FOOT BATHS
Hey Gang-- Not trying to rain on anybody's parade. But a few years ago I had one of these ionic foot baths and asked the list if they were as good as the claims. Someone on the list said they throw off your body's electrical system?? Or something like that, can't remember. Anyway, I Googled it and one investigative reporter said the water will turn black and icky whether you put your feet in or not??? Bottom line, they said the foot baths were not all they are cracked up to be. Just like the foot pads that are supposed to draw out toxins. Anyone know if they are good or not? Have they improved them? What is the benefit? And is there any benefit to adding CS to the solution? > Your plan sounds good, and inexpensive, > I sell to the public, Ionic Foot Baths all sizes, and > We offer foot baths to some customers. It's an (Ionic foot > Bath,) > see on - http://www.quailwoodherbal.com > > Tel Tofflemire > Dewey, AZ.
