Re: CSBugs from Brown rice
Just means a moth layed eggs on the rice before it was harvested (or even more likely a moth got into your kitchen and laid eggs on the rice in the bag). I had the same thing happen with a bag of popcorn once. Marshall debbiegerar...@comcast.net wrote: this is too gross...I have been seeing flying bugs in my kitchenlike little moths...and they are laying what looks like little catapillars on the ceiling...I looked in my cupboard and they are coming from an unopended bag of brown ricewhat on earth could be the deal with this?thanks to all debbie
RE: CSBugs from Brown rice 2
Much of our food is allowed to be contaminated with foreign material. That would include anything other than the food. Here is an example of what % is allowed in grain by the USDA: http://ecfr.gpoaccess.gov/cgi/t/text/text-idx?c=ecfrsid=829b3781c203638a980 09e976608f4d2rgn=div5view=textnode=7:7.1.2.8.4idno=7 http://ecfr.gpoaccess.gov/cgi/t/text/text-idx?c=ecfrsid=829b3781c203638a980 09e976608f4d2rgn=div5view=textnode=7:7.1.2.8.4idno=7#7:7.1.2.8.4.8.118.4 -Original Message- From: debbiegerar...@comcast.net [mailto:debbiegerar...@comcast.net] Sent: July 25, 2006 11:17 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSBugs from Brown rice 2 I have had real small little critters before but this is the first time in my life I have had these ones...they came out of an unopened brown rice bag and the rice wasn't organicdebbie -- Original message -- From: Carl Deb Charter carl...@charter.net Hi Deb: The best bet is to keep all your starches (flour, rice, cereal) in glass containers, or in the refrigerator. Make sure any pet food is a sealed container as well. That way if you do get pantry pest at least it won't spread to your other foods. Make sure you clean your pantry well. From what I understand, pantry pests are pretty common, ick!! Deb - Original Message - From: kskiefe...@aol.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, July 24, 2006 8:08 PM Subject: Re: CSBugs from Brown rice 2 My deepest sympathy. the stuff about the extra protein is funny unless you have these critters. If you have bad eyes and cannot see them, I also think it may not be a problem. I had them once. (once is too many times) they came in the sealed bag of flour I bought at the store. this is often how you get them I am told. I found that they were very hard to get rid of. by the time I found them, they were is many boxes. they were small black, kind of looked like black flecks until they moved (quickly) to avoid detection. I had to get rid of most of the food in the cupboard. maybe you were lucky and caught them quickly. washing down the cupboard/pantry is a good idea but you will get re infected unless you get all their favorite food out of there. Karen -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.4/396 - Release Date: 7/24/06
RE: CSBugs from Brown rice 2
How nice it is that the lawgivers have now erected Borders for Bugs and Other Undesireables. Hilarious. stuff At 04:14 AM 7/26/2006, you wrote: Much of our food is allowed to be contaminated with foreign material. That would include anything other than the food. Here is an example of what % is allowed in grain by the USDA: http://ecfr.gpoaccess.gov/cgi/t/text/text-idx?c=ecfrsid=829b3781c203638a98009e976608f4d2rgn=div5view=textnode=7:7.1.2.8.4idno=7http://ecfr.gpoaccess.gov/cgi/t/text/text-idx?c=ecfrsid=829b3781c203638a98009e976608f4d2rgn=div5view=textnode=7:7.1.2.8.4idno=7 http://ecfr.gpoaccess.gov/cgi/t/text/text-idx?c=ecfrsid=829b3781c203638a98009e976608f4d2rgn=div5view=textnode=7:7.1.2.8.4idno=7#7:7.1.2.8.4.8.118.4 -Original Message- From: debbiegerar...@comcast.net [mailto:debbiegerar...@comcast.net] Sent: July 25, 2006 11:17 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSBugs from Brown rice 2 I have had real small little critters before but this is the first time in my life I have had these ones...they came out of an unopened brown rice bag and the rice wasn't organicdebbie -- Original message -- From: Carl Deb Charter carl...@charter.net Hi Deb: The best bet is to keep all your starches (flour, rice, cereal) in glass containers, or in the refrigerator. Make sure any pet food is a sealed container as well. That way if you do get pantry pest at least it won't spread to your other foods. Make sure you clean your pantry well. From what I understand, pantry pests are pretty common, ick!! Deb - Original Message - From: mailto:kskiefe...@aol.comkskiefe...@aol.com To: mailto:silver-list@eskimo.comsilver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, July 24, 2006 8:08 PM Subject: Re: CSBugs from Brown rice 2 My deepest sympathy. the stuff about the extra protein is funny unless you have these critters. If you have bad eyes and cannot see them, I also think it may not be a problem. I had them once. (once is too many times) they came in the sealed bag of flour I bought at the store. this is often how you get them I am told. I found that they were very hard to get rid of. by the time I found them, they were is many boxes. they were small black, kind of looked like black flecks until they moved (quickly) to avoid detection. I had to get rid of most of the food in the cupboard. maybe you were lucky and caught them quickly. washing down the cupboard/pantry is a good idea but you will get re infected unless you get all their favorite food out of there. Karen -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.4/396 - Release Date: 7/24/06 No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.4/396 - Release Date: 7/24/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.4/399 - Release Date: 7/25/2006 -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSBugs from Brown rice 2
I have had real small little critters before but this is the first time in my life I have had these ones...they came out of an unopened brown rice bag and the rice wasn't organic So vegatarians eat more protein than they thought. Brickey
RE: CSBugs from Brown rice
Sorry, but I'm coming into this late and don't know if this was mentioned already, food grade Diatomaceous earth. It's in a powder form and I was told that it has been used to preserve grains when mixed with it. Please do a search on it, if you haven't, for more info. _ From: Marshall Dudley [mailto:mdud...@king-cart.com] Sent: Monday, July 24, 2006 6:09 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSBugs from Brown rice Just means a moth layed eggs on the rice before it was harvested (or even more likely a moth got into your kitchen and laid eggs on the rice in the bag). I had the same thing happen with a bag of popcorn once. Marshall debbiegerar...@comcast.net wrote: this is too gross...I have been seeing flying bugs in my kitchenlike little moths...and they are laying what looks like little catapillars on the ceiling...I looked in my cupboard and they are coming from an unopended bag of brown ricewhat on earth could be the deal with this?thanks to all debbie
Re: CSBugs from Brown rice
You could try mixing in a little food grade diatomaceous earth with your grains. where do you get this? will it work on ants?
CSBugs from Brown rice
Hi, I buy my diatomaceous earth (DE), at the feed store. It cost $19.95 for 50 lb of food grade DE. I use it on weevils in grain, in the goat's loose mineral mixture (for worms), on ant beds, dust the dogs for ticks and fleas and to dust the garden without poisonous chemicals. It looks like sharp glass under an electron microscope. Lots more information on the internet and this is my favorite mined product, made from diatoms. Can't find anything better in my opinion. Do NOT confuse the pool type of DE with food grade because the pool type has been heated and is ineffective for the above things. Jean ** You could try mixing in a little food grade diatomaceous earth with your grains. where do you get this? will it work on ants?
Re: CSBugs from Brown rice 2 - Pantry Moth Trap
From: Rowena new...@aapt.net.au Sent: Monday, July 24, 2006 10:01 PM It continued to be a problem for decades until I happened to notice something called a pantry moth trap. There are plenty of entries via Google search on those words, but I don't have an unopened pack to tell you about what I can get here. It's a flat cardboard that you fold into a triangular tube. You open up a lure and stick it on the sticky inside of the trap. Moths are attracted to the lure, and get stuck on the sticky stuff. I hardly ever see a moth now - except stuck in the trap. - That's the one I posted the link to the other day. I get it from Gardens Alive here in the US. Sharon -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSBugs from Brown rice
Hopefully they are gone now i thought of something though if people do not use thier dishwasher that is a good place to store foods too...debbie -- Original message -- From: Marshall Dudley mdud...@king-cart.com Just means a moth layed eggs on the rice before it was harvested (or even more likely a moth got into your kitchen and laid eggs on the rice in the bag). I had the same thing happen with a bag of popcorn once. Marshall debbiegerar...@comcast.net wrote: this is too gross...I have been seeing flying bugs in my kitchenlike little moths...and they are laying what looks like little catapillars on the ceiling...I looked in my cupboard and they are coming from an unopended bag of brown ricewhat on earth could be the deal with this?thanks to all debbie
Re: CSBugs from Brown rice
You use this for human consumption as well too?...thanks debbie -- Original message -- From: oldgl...@bigcountry.net oldgl...@bigcountry.net Hi, I buy my diatomaceous earth (DE), at the feed store. It cost $19.95 for 50 lb of food grade DE. I use it on weevils in grain, in the goat's loose mineral mixture (for worms), on ant beds, dust the dogs for ticks and fleas and to dust the garden without poisonous chemicals. It looks like sharp glass under an electron microscope. Lots more information on the internet and this is my favorite mined product, made from diatoms. Can't find anything better in my opinion. Do NOT confuse the pool type of DE with food grade because the pool type has been heated and is ineffective for the above things. Jean ** You could try mixing in a little food grade diatomaceous earth with your grains. where do you get this? will it work on ants?
Re: CSBugs from Brown rice 2 - Pantry Moth Trap
It's a flat cardboard that you fold into a triangular tube. You open up a lure and stick it on the sticky inside of the trap. Moths are attracted to the lure, and get stuck on the sticky stuff. I hardly ever see a moth now - except stuck in the trap. - That's the one I posted the link to the other day. I get it from Gardens Alive here in the US. Sharon Yes, sorry Sharon, I felt a bit silly when I got down to your post and saw you had already said much the same thing. I had a look at the link, and there looks to be some very interesting stuff at Gardens Alive. It's probably a different company, but same principle, making what we can get here in Australia, though I just get it at the supermarket. I noticed it called Pantry Pest Trap, too, as opposed to Pantry Moth Trap. Rowena -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSBugs from Brown rice 2
On Mon, 24 Jul 2006 22:44:35 -0700, Acmeair wrote in 44c5afc3.8070...@verizon.net: i've been into this health stuff since the mid 70's. grain mill, kefir/yogurt makers, what all. was always having to dump stuff because of the infections of crawling and flying bugs. Just have a way to recycle these things, and they are no longer a loss. We feed them to the chickens and next day they are recycled into eggs! Bay leaf leaves is interesting, must try that. Heidrun Beer Workgroup for Fundamental Spiritual Research and Mental Training http://www.sgmt.at -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSBugs from Brown rice 2
The way we found to get rid of them is to put EVERYTHING that they may eat into seperate zip lock bags. If they appear inside the bag, throw it away unopened. When they can no longer find any food, they all die off. Marshall kskiefe...@aol.com wrote: My deepest sympathy. the stuff about the extra protein is funny unless you have these critters. If you have bad eyes and cannot see them, I also think it may not be a problem. I had them once. (once is too many times) they came in the sealed bag of flour I bought at the store. this is often how you get them I am told. I found that they were very hard to get rid of. by the time I found them, they were is many boxes. they were small black, kind of looked like black flecks until they moved (quickly) to avoid detection. I had to get rid of most of the food in the cupboard. maybe you were lucky and caught them quickly. washing down the cupboard/pantry is a good idea but you will get re infected unless you get all their favorite food out of there. Karen
Re: CSBugs from Brown rice 2
In a message dated 7/25/2006 7:24:35 AM Pacific Standard Time, mdud...@king-cart.com writes: The way we found to get rid of them is to put EVERYTHING that they may eat into seperate zip lock bags. If they appear inside the bag, throw it away unopened. When they can no longer find any food, they all die off. Marshall Marshall: Good point I forgot to mention. They have a knack of getting into things. They can make very small holes in packages. you can think something is OK because it is sealed but it is not. The idea of plastic ziplocks is very good. You have a better chance to see if they have infested the food. They are small, move fast and avoid being seen. Karen
Re: CSBugs from Brown rice 2
Thanks for all the answers my main concern has been twenty five pound bags I bought from the health food store the past month so far they look okayI put them in a big beach cooler I have along with bay leaves...and oh yes these are organic so I am hoping that makes a differencedebbie -- Original message -- From: Acmeair res00...@verizon.net i've been into this health stuff since the mid 70's. grain mill, kefir/yogurt makers, what all. was always having to dump stuff because of the infections of crawling and flying bugs. a lady, sharing a room with the wife in a hospital ward, realized that i might be LDS, which i am not, explained how to keep grains, etc., without attracting these bugs. whenever you bring any thing home, make sure you put the product into a airtight container, (mason jar) (peanut butter jar) or what ever. but,,, put at least one bay leaf leaf into the jar. i've checked older jars that had been forgotten, like 3-4 years,, with bay leaves in them, and no.. bugs. quite simple Carl Deb Charter wrote: Hi Deb: The best bet is to keep all your starches (flour, rice, cereal) in glass containers, or in the refrigerator. Make sure any pet food is a sealed container as well. That way if you do get pantry pest at least it won't spread to your other foods. Make sure you clean your pantry well. From what I understand, pantry pests are pretty common, ick!! Deb -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CSBugs from Brown rice 2
I have had real small little critters before but this is the first time in my life I have had these ones...they came out of an unopened brown rice bag and the rice wasn't organicdebbie -- Original message -- From: Carl Deb Charter carl...@charter.net Hi Deb: The best bet is to keep all your starches (flour, rice, cereal) in glass containers, or in the refrigerator. Make sure any pet food is a sealed container as well. That way if you do get pantry pest at least it won't spread to your other foods. Make sure you clean your pantry well. From what I understand, pantry pests are pretty common, ick!! Deb - Original Message - From: kskiefe...@aol.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, July 24, 2006 8:08 PM Subject: Re: CSBugs from Brown rice 2 My deepest sympathy. the stuff about the extra protein is funny unless you have these critters. If you have bad eyes and cannot see them, I also think it may not be a problem. I had them once. (once is too many times) they came in the sealed bag of flour I bought at the store. this is often how you get them I am told. I found that they were very hard to get rid of. by the time I found them, they were is many boxes. they were small black, kind of looked like black flecks until they moved (quickly) to avoid detection. I had to get rid of most of the food in the cupboard. maybe you were lucky and caught them quickly. washing down the cupboard/pantry is a good idea but you will get re infected unless you get all their favorite food out of there. Karen No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.4/396 - Release Date: 7/24/06
Re: CSBugs from Brown rice
These little moths lay eggs in grains at granaries, in your kitchen and in fields etc and will replicate even in a sealed jar. What you have is non irradiated rice...quite normal. Keep the rice sealed up in the fridge and that won't happen. Ode At 10:10 PM 7/23/2006 +, you wrote: this is too gross...I have been seeing flying bugs in my kitchenlike little moths...and they are laying what looks like little catapillars on the ceiling...I looked in my cupboard and they are coming from an unopended bag of brown ricewhat on earth could be the deal with this? thanks to all debbie No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.3/395 - Release Date: 7/21/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.3/395 - Release Date: 7/21/2006 -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSBugs from Brown rice
Let's just say cooked eggsand a few rat turds and whatever. Won't hurt ya. Earth food ...and feeders... are of a wide variety. The food chain is a garden on hundreds of unseen levels. Don't look too closely at your skin. Even the fleas of fleas have fleas. ode At 10:58 PM 7/23/2006 +, you wrote: too gross are we eating the eggs or are they cooked out?? -- Original message -- From: V vzo...@yahoo.com Dont keep your rice so long LoL. happens in flour too sometimes provides extra protien :-) Take care, V Join My Newsletter Today http://www.health-freedom.info/ this is too gross...I have been seeing flying bugs in my kitchenlike little moths...and they are laying what looks like little catapillars on the ceiling...I looked in my cupboard and they are coming from an unopended bag of brown ricewhat on earth could be the deal with this? thanks to all debbie -- -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted ! at: htt p://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.3/395 - Release Date: 7/21/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.3/395 - Release Date: 7/21/2006
Re: CSBugs from Brown rice
End days! Why, sailors of olde didn't think a hard tac biscuit was edible unless it moved inside. Why do you think Grandma used a flour sifter? If we have a few meal worms, that's more a sign we're closer to the beginning days than any end days. LOL Ode Wish I had better news but we are living in the end of days and pestilence (pests/bugs of any kind, including bacteria and viruses) are one of the major problems we will be/are experiencing. Scott Vigilius Haufniensis nerdm...@earthlink.net wrote: maybe you got bugs from your brown rice. - Original Message - From: mailto:debbiegerar...@comcast.netdebbiegerar...@comcast.net To: mailto:silver-list@eskimo.comUnknown Sent: Sunday, July 23, 2006 5:10 PM Subject: CSBugs from Brown rice this is too gross...I have been seeing flying bugs in my kitchenlike little moths...and they are laying what looks like little catapillars on the ceiling...I looked in my cupboard and they are coming from an unopended bag of brown ricewhat on earth could be the deal with this? thanks to all debbie -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.3/395 - Release Date: 7/21/2006 Do you Yahoo!? Next-gen email? Have it all with the http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=42241/*http://advision.webevents.yahoo.com/handraisersall-new Yahoo! Mail Beta. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.3/395 - Release Date: 7/21/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.3/395 - Release Date: 7/21/2006 -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSBugs from Brown rice
A little trick the Mexicans use to get rid of such pests, including ants in sugar, is to spread it on a clean cloth in the direct sunlight for a couple of hours. The bugs will abandon their feast. - Original Message - From: Ode Coyote odecoy...@alltel.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, July 24, 2006 5:19 AM Subject: Re: CSBugs from Brown rice These little moths lay eggs in grains at granaries, in your kitchen and in fields etc and will replicate even in a sealed jar. What you have is non irradiated rice...quite normal. Keep the rice sealed up in the fridge and that won't happen. Ode At 10:10 PM 7/23/2006 +, you wrote: this is too gross...I have been seeing flying bugs in my kitchenlike little moths...and they are laying what looks like little catapillars on the ceiling...I looked in my cupboard and they are coming from an unopended bag of brown ricewhat on earth could be the deal with this? thanks to all debbie No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.3/395 - Release Date: 7/21/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.3/395 - Release Date: 7/21/2006 -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSBugs from Brown rice
Put a few bay leaves in whatever grain product you are storing. It works for me.Bob Smith - Original Message - From: William Missett miss...@prodigy.net.mx To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, July 24, 2006 8:35 AM Subject: Re: CSBugs from Brown rice A little trick the Mexicans use to get rid of such pests, including ants in sugar, is to spread it on a clean cloth in the direct sunlight for a couple of hours. The bugs will abandon their feast. - Original Message - From: Ode Coyote odecoy...@alltel.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, July 24, 2006 5:19 AM Subject: Re: CSBugs from Brown rice These little moths lay eggs in grains at granaries, in your kitchen and in fields etc and will replicate even in a sealed jar. What you have is non irradiated rice...quite normal. Keep the rice sealed up in the fridge and that won't happen. Ode -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSBugs from Brown rice 2
My deepest sympathy. the stuff about the extra protein is funny unless you have these critters. If you have bad eyes and cannot see them, I also think it may not be a problem. I had them once. (once is too many times) they came in the sealed bag of flour I bought at the store. this is often how you get them I am told. I found that they were very hard to get rid of. by the time I found them, they were is many boxes. they were small black, kind of looked like black flecks until they moved (quickly) to avoid detection. I had to get rid of most of the food in the cupboard. maybe you were lucky and caught them quickly. washing down the cupboard/pantry is a good idea but you will get re infected unless you get all their favorite food out of there. Karen
Re: CSBugs from Brown rice 2
Hi Deb: The best bet is to keep all your starches (flour, rice, cereal) in glass containers, or in the refrigerator. Make sure any pet food is a sealed container as well. That way if you do get pantry pest at least it won't spread to your other foods. Make sure you clean your pantry well. From what I understand, pantry pests are pretty common, ick!! Deb - Original Message - From: kskiefe...@aol.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, July 24, 2006 8:08 PM Subject: Re: CSBugs from Brown rice 2 My deepest sympathy. the stuff about the extra protein is funny unless you have these critters. If you have bad eyes and cannot see them, I also think it may not be a problem. I had them once. (once is too many times) they came in the sealed bag of flour I bought at the store. this is often how you get them I am told. I found that they were very hard to get rid of. by the time I found them, they were is many boxes. they were small black, kind of looked like black flecks until they moved (quickly) to avoid detection. I had to get rid of most of the food in the cupboard. maybe you were lucky and caught them quickly. washing down the cupboard/pantry is a good idea but you will get re infected unless you get all their favorite food out of there. Karen -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.4/396 - Release Date: 7/24/06
Re: CSBugs from Brown rice 2 - Pantry Moth Trap
One of the bugbears when we first moved here to Australia was the Indian Meal Moth. When you're starting out from scratch building a household again and using things like ice cream containers as kitchen containers, there is no protection, as the caterpillars or whatever seem to just slide nicely under the lid. Screw top containers were better because they were more difficult to navigate, and one would find little webs in the screw threads. It continued to be a problem for decades until I happened to notice something called a pantry moth trap. There are plenty of entries via Google search on those words, but I don't have an unopened pack to tell you about what I can get here. It's a flat cardboard that you fold into a triangular tube. You open up a lure and stick it on the sticky inside of the trap. Moths are attracted to the lure, and get stuck on the sticky stuff. I hardly ever see a moth now - except stuck in the trap. I often wondered just how bad caterpillars and weevils were in the flour - after all we must swallow loads we don't know about, and it can be scary to sift flour and see these things there. Eventually I read somewhere that the problem is not so much in the creatures themselves, as in the stuff that is inside them. We don't always know where our great load of bad stuff comes from; unintentional protein in grains may be one source. Great fleas have little fleas etc. etc. etc. Rowena the stuff about the extra protein is funny unless you have these critters. If you have bad eyes and cannot see them, I also think it may not be a problem. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSBugs from Brown rice 2
i've been into this health stuff since the mid 70's. grain mill, kefir/yogurt makers, what all. was always having to dump stuff because of the infections of crawling and flying bugs. a lady, sharing a room with the wife in a hospital ward, realized that i might be LDS, which i am not, explained how to keep grains, etc., without attracting these bugs. whenever you bring any thing home, make sure you put the product into a airtight container, (mason jar) (peanut butter jar) or what ever. but,,, put at least one bay leaf leaf into the jar. i've checked older jars that had been forgotten, like 3-4 years,, with bay leaves in them, and no.. bugs. quite simple Carl Deb Charter wrote: Hi Deb: The best bet is to keep all your starches (flour, rice, cereal) in glass containers, or in the refrigerator. Make sure any pet food is a sealed container as well. That way if you do get pantry pest at least it won't spread to your other foods. Make sure you clean your pantry well. From what I understand, pantry pests are pretty common, ick!! Deb -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSBugs from Brown rice
this is too gross...I have been seeing flying bugs in my kitchenlike little moths...and they are laying what looks like little catapillars on the ceiling...I looked in my cupboard and they are coming from an unopended bag of brown ricewhat on earth could be the deal with this? thanks to all debbie
Re: CSBugs from Brown rice
maybe you got bugs from your brown rice. - Original Message - From: debbiegerar...@comcast.net To: Unknown Sent: Sunday, July 23, 2006 5:10 PM Subject: CSBugs from Brown rice this is too gross...I have been seeing flying bugs in my kitchenlike little moths...and they are laying what looks like little catapillars on the ceiling...I looked in my cupboard and they are coming from an unopended bag of brown ricewhat on earth could be the deal with this? thanks to all debbie -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.3/395 - Release Date: 7/21/2006
Re: CSBugs from Brown rice
Yeah what and why would that be??debbie -- Original message -- From: Vigilius Haufniensis nerdm...@earthlink.net maybe you got bugs from your brown rice. - Original Message - From: debbiegerar...@comcast.net To: Unknown Sent: Sunday, July 23, 2006 5:10 PM Subject: CSBugs from Brown rice this is too gross...I have been seeing flying bugs in my kitchenlike little moths...and they are laying what looks like little catapillars on the ceiling...I looked in my cupboard and they are coming from an unopended bag of brown ricewhat on earth could be the deal with this? thanks to all debbie No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.3/395 - Release Date: 7/21/2006
Re: CSBugs from Brown rice
Dont keep your rice so long LoL. happens in flour too sometimes provides extra protien :-) Take care, V Join My Newsletter Today http://www.health-freedom.info/ this is too gross...I have been seeing flying bugs in my kitchenlike little moths...and they are laying what looks like little catapillars on the ceiling...I looked in my cupboard and they are coming from an unopended bag of brown ricewhat on earth could be the deal with this? thanks to all debbie -- -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSBugs from Brown rice
Indian Meal Moth Bugs in the cupboard website ..maybe CS will help??? http://www.ext.nodak.edu/extpubs/yf/home/e300w.htm Trudy - Original Message - From: debbiegerar...@comcast.net To: Unknown Sent: Monday, July 24, 2006 12:10 AM Subject: CSBugs from Brown rice this is too gross...I have been seeing flying bugs in my kitchenlike little moths...and they are laying what looks like little catapillars on the ceiling...I looked in my cupboard and they are coming from an unopended bag of brown ricewhat on earth could be the deal with this? thanks to all debbie
Re: CSBugs from Brown rice
too gross are we eating the eggs or are they cooked out?? -- Original message -- From: V vzo...@yahoo.com Dont keep your rice so long LoL. happens in flour too sometimes provides extra protien :-) Take care, V Join My Newsletter Today http://www.health-freedom.info/ this is too gross...I have been seeing flying bugs in my kitchenlike little moths...and they are laying what looks like little catapillars on the ceiling...I looked in my cupboard and they are coming from an unopended bag of brown ricewhat on earth could be the deal with this? thanks to all debbie -- -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
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Debbie is this the one??? http://www.knowledgebank.irri.org/riceDoctor_MX/Fact_Sheets/Pests/Rice_Bug.htm Trudy
Re: CSBugs from Brown rice
Im sure they are cooked out he he V too gross are we eating the eggs or are they cooked out?? -- Original message -- From: V vzo...@yahoo.com Dont keep your rice so long LoL. happens in flour too sometimes provides extra protien :-) Take care, V Join My Newsletter Today http://www.health-freedom.info/ -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSBugs from Brown rice
They are called Indian Meal Moths. Very common in the pantry of one's home. Go to this site here for some enjoyable reading on the subject: http://www.bug-guy.com/FOODPANTRY%20pests.htm We had them just about two years. We had to get rid of just about every food that these moths could eat through, went shopping at a different grocery store and then put all the new plastic bagged/cardboard boxed foods in ziplocs bags and either refrigerated or froze them. Eventually, we eradicated them. Wish I had better news but we are living in the end of days and pestilence (pests/bugs of any kind, including bacteria and viruses) are one of the major problems we will be/are experiencing. Scott Vigilius Haufniensis nerdm...@earthlink.net wrote: maybe you got bugs from your brown rice. - Original Message - From: debbiegerar...@comcast.net To: Unknown Sent: Sunday, July 23, 2006 5:10 PM Subject: CSBugs from Brown rice this is too gross...I have been seeing flying bugs in my kitchenlike little moths...and they are laying what looks like little catapillars on the ceiling...I looked in my cupboard and they are coming from an unopended bag of brown ricewhat on earth could be the deal with this? thanks to all debbie - No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.3/395 - Release Date: 7/21/2006 - Do you Yahoo!? Next-gen email? Have it all with the all-new Yahoo! Mail Beta.
Re: CSBugs from Brown rice
I had the same thing happen!!! I know they came from the rice because after one of the bags was about a month old, the same bugs were inside the bag and it wasn't even opened yetI checked and the bag was still air tight. The funny thing is that they don't seem to get in any other food. Good luck getting rid of themits been 2 months and I still see an occasional one and thats even after spraying for them over and over. Swat them when you see themI've just about got them under control finally. Robb - Original Message - From: debbiegerar...@comcast.net To: Unknown Sent: Sunday, July 23, 2006 6:10 PM Subject: CSBugs from Brown rice this is too gross...I have been seeing flying bugs in my kitchenlike little moths...and they are laying what looks like little catapillars on the ceiling...I looked in my cupboard and they are coming from an unopended bag of brown ricewhat on earth could be the deal with this? thanks to all debbie
Re: CSBugs from Brown rice
You could try mixing in a little food grade diatomaceous earth with your grains. It kills all bugs, and is good for human consumption as a mineral supplement. No side effects, non-toxic, 100% effective. Good for humans; bad for bugs. Jill
Re: CSBugs from Brown rice
black rice is better for tonification. according to TCM. - Original Message - From: Robb Allen To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, July 23, 2006 7:01 PM Subject: Re: CSBugs from Brown rice I had the same thing happen!!! I know they came from the rice because after one of the bags was about a month old, the same bugs were inside the bag and it wasn't even opened yetI checked and the bag was still air tight. The funny thing is that they don't seem to get in any other food. Good luck getting rid of themits been 2 months and I still see an occasional one and thats even after spraying for them over and over. Swat them when you see themI've just about got them under control finally. Robb - Original Message - From: debbiegerar...@comcast.net To: Unknown Sent: Sunday, July 23, 2006 6:10 PM Subject: CSBugs from Brown rice this is too gross...I have been seeing flying bugs in my kitchenlike little moths...and they are laying what looks like little catapillars on the ceiling...I looked in my cupboard and they are coming from an unopended bag of brown ricewhat on earth could be the deal with this? thanks to all debbie -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.3/395 - Release Date: 7/21/2006
Re: CSBugs from Brown rice
great idea thanksdeb -- Original message -- From: grace1...@aol.com You could try mixing in a little food grade diatomaceous earth with your grains. It kills all bugs, and is good for human consumption as a mineral supplement. No side effects, non-toxic, 100% effective. Good for humans; bad for bugs. Jill
Re: CSBugs from Brown rice
:) -- Original message -- From: V vzo...@yahoo.com Im sure they are cooked out he he V too gross are we eating the eggs or are they cooked out?? -- Original message -- From: V Dont keep your rice so long LoL. happens in flour too sometimes provides extra protien :-) Take care, V Join My Newsletter Today http://www.health-freedom.info/ -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CSBugs from Brown rice
From: Robb Allen rube211...@yahoo.com Sent: Sunday, July 23, 2006 8:01 PM I had the same thing happen!!! I know they came from the rice because after one of the bags was about a month old, the same bugs were inside the bag and it wasn't even opened yetI checked and the bag was still air tight. The funny thing is that they don't seem to get in any other food. Good luck getting rid of themits been 2 months and I still see an occasional one and thats even after spraying for them over and over. Swat them when you see themI've just about got them under control finally. Robb I've been having a constant infestation with every trip home from the grocery store. I try to put all grain products into sealed containers, but sometimes I just forget. So, what I've found that is really helpful is these little gadgets (traps) from this source: http://www.gardensalive.com/category.asp?c=13 It's called the Cupboard Moth Trap. In fact, I think I'd better order some more now. Sharon -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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no there look like small little mothsI wonder why I got them now?? -- Original message -- From: Gertrude dj...@home.nl Debbie is this the one??? http://www.knowledgebank.irri.org/riceDoctor_MX/Fact_Sheets/Pests/Rice_Bug.htm Trudy
Re: CSBugs from Brown rice 2
They or the larvae were probably in the rice when you bought it. Once or twice over the years I've found them in rice that had been stored for a while. Wipe the area down with alcohol. debbiegerar...@comcast.net wrote: no there look like small little mothsI wonder why I got them now?? -- Original message -- From: Gertrude dj...@home.nl Debbie is this the one??? http://www.knowledgebank.irri.org/riceDoctor_MX/Fact_Sheets/Pests/Rice_Bug.htm Trudy Carol Ann ~Those who dared to dance were thought to be quite insane by those who could not hear the music ~ Visit: http://www.healthfreedomusa.org/action.shtml - Yahoo! Music Unlimited - Access over 1 million songs.Try it free.
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gotchathis has never happened to me beforethanks debbie -- Original message -- From: Carol Ann saffiresk...@yahoo.com They or the larvae were probably in the rice when you bought it. Once or twice over the years I've found them in rice that had been stored for a while. Wipe the area down with alcohol. debbiegerar...@comcast.net wrote: no there look like small little mothsI wonder why I got them now?? -- Original message -- From: Gertrude dj...@home.nl Debbie is this the one??? http://www.knowledgebank.irri.org/riceDoctor_MX/Fact_Sheets/Pests/Rice_Bug.htm Trudy Carol Ann ~Those who dared to dance were thought to be quite insane by those who could not hear the music ~ Visit: http://www.healthfreedomusa.org/action.shtml Yahoo! Music Unlimited - Access over 1 million songs. Try it free.
Re: CSBugs from Brown rice
I just tossed out a big container of rice in which I found a bug, don't think it was the moth under discussion though, here we tend to get weevils. Putting DE in the grains is a good idea, but doesn't actually remove the bugs or their eggs or larvae from the grain, flour, or rice. You'd still be eating dead bugs, right? Bugs in grains are just a fact of life. Some years and from certain stores or producers, they are more frequently found. Usually, if I see weevils in flour from a particular store, I don't buy from them again. I'm not sure if this is a problem with the particular brands a store may sell, or with the shipping and storage practices of certain stores. But, I'm more grossed by bugs in my old age than I was in my youth. In my 20's if I found weevils in flour, I just sifted them out. Now I will toss 20 lbs of flour if I find weevils in it. Plus I will often toss my storage container, too. sol, the bug phobic grace1...@aol.com wrote: You could try mixing in a little food grade diatomaceous earth with your grains. It kills all bugs, and is good for human consumption as a mineral supplement. No side effects, non-toxic, 100% effective. Good for humans; bad for bugs. Jill -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
