Re: CSathletes' foot

2011-08-05 Thread Gayla Roberts
Dip your feet in apple cider vinegar. That kills it now. It will take a couple 
of days to get rid of the itch though.
Gayla
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  Subject: CSathletes' foot


  Will cs help with athlete fungus?

   

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RE: CSathletes' foot

2011-08-05 Thread Faith Saint Francis

Down or stop all sweets and sugar.
F S F 

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Will cs help with athlete fungus?

 

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RE: CSathletes' foot

2011-08-05 Thread Faith Saint Francis

Bingo!
U T (urine therapy) is in general use for many ailments;
it is a therapy over 5000 years old, and one thing:
IT WORKS!
(Took away my 'skin cancer' in no time...)
For an introductory article, write to:
 seasoned_w...@live.com 
Leonardo Faith
Licensed, Practising and involved Reflexology practitioner

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Probably not.  Soak your feet in your own urine.









On 8/4/2011 9:06 PM, Rod Samuelson wrote:

  
  
  
  
Will cs help
  with athlete fungus?
 
Rod
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RE: CSathletes' foot

2011-08-05 Thread Rod Samuelson
How much cs and for how long?

 

Rod Samuelson
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  _  

From: Roger Barker [mailto:rbar...@clear.net.nz] 
Sent: Friday, August 05, 2011 12:14 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSathletes' foot

 

Hi Rod, a few years ago a shop keeper friend complained to me that he had
athlete's foot and that his doctor had been unable to completely cure it. I
supplied him with a bottle of my home made CS and he was so taken with the
results he asked me to make him a CS generator and show him how to get
started on production. Since then I'm glad to say he's had no occurrence of
the problem. Might not work in every case but it sure did for him.

 

Cheers, Roger B

NZ

 

On 5/08/2011, at 2:06 PM, Rod Samuelson wrote:





Will cs help with athlete fungus?

 

Rod Samuelson
860-881-3734 cell
new email address  rsamuels...@cox.net

 

 



Re: CSathletes' foot

2011-08-05 Thread Roger Barker
I just suggested he spray his foot every hour or so and when I caught up with 
him the following week all was well.

Cheers, Roger B
NZ


On 6/08/2011, at 12:44 PM, Rod Samuelson wrote:

 How much cs and for how long?
  
 Rod Samuelson
 860-881-3734 cell
 new email address  rsamuels...@cox.net
 
 From: Roger Barker [mailto:rbar...@clear.net.nz] 
 Sent: Friday, August 05, 2011 12:14 AM
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Subject: Re: CSathletes' foot
  
 Hi Rod, a few years ago a shop keeper friend complained to me that he had 
 athlete's foot and that his doctor had been unable to completely cure it. I 
 supplied him with a bottle of my home made CS and he was so taken with the 
 results he asked me to make him a CS generator and show him how to get 
 started on production. Since then I'm glad to say he's had no occurrence of 
 the problem. Might not work in every case but it sure did for him.
  
 Cheers, Roger B
 NZ
  
 On 5/08/2011, at 2:06 PM, Rod Samuelson wrote:
 
 
 Will cs help with athlete fungus?
  
 Rod Samuelson
 860-881-3734 cell
 new email address  rsamuels...@cox.net
 
  
  



Re: CSathletes' foot

2011-08-04 Thread Steve G
Apparently CS can be used effectively on athlete's foot according to Steve 
Barwick, author of the 'Ultimate Colloidal Silver Manual.'   I have never heard 
of this guy before googling your question.   And, I've never attempted to 
address fungal infections with it.  I've had great success treating athlete's 
foot with tea tree oil applied once or twice a day with a Q-tip.

    

--- On Thu, 8/4/11, Rod Samuelson rodsamuel...@sbcglobal.net wrote:

From: Rod Samuelson rodsamuel...@sbcglobal.net
Subject: CSathletes' foot
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Thursday, August 4, 2011, 10:06 PM




 
 






 



Will cs help with athlete fungus? 

   

Rod
Samuelson

860-881-3734 cell

new email address  rsamuels...@cox.net 

   



 




Re: CSathletes' foot

2011-08-04 Thread David AuBuchon
Barwick has some photos - I think on his facebook group - of someone who
took care of some fungal something on their foot if I remember correctly.

~David

On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 7:13 PM, Steve G chube...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Apparently CS can be used effectively on athlete's foot according to Steve
 Barwick, author of the 'Ultimate Colloidal Silver Manual.'   I have never
 heard of this guy before googling your question.   And, I've never attempted
 to address fungal infections with it.  I've had great success treating
 athlete's foot with tea tree oil applied once or twice a day with a Q-tip.



 --- On *Thu, 8/4/11, Rod Samuelson rodsamuel...@sbcglobal.net* wrote:


 From: Rod Samuelson rodsamuel...@sbcglobal.net
 Subject: CSathletes' foot
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Date: Thursday, August 4, 2011, 10:06 PM


  Will cs help with athlete fungus?



 Rod Samuelson
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 new email address  rsamuels...@cox.net






Re: CSathletes' foot

2011-08-04 Thread Vigilius Haufniensis

Probably not.  Soak your feet in your own urine.




On 8/4/2011 9:06 PM, Rod Samuelson wrote:


Will cs help with athlete fungus?

Rod Samuelson
860-881-3734 cell
new email address  rsamuels...@cox.net





Re: CSathletes' foot

2011-08-04 Thread Roger Barker
Hi Rod, a few years ago a shop keeper friend complained to me that he had 
athlete's foot and that his doctor had been unable to completely cure it. I 
supplied him with a bottle of my home made CS and he was so taken with the 
results he asked me to make him a CS generator and show him how to get started 
on production. Since then I'm glad to say he's had no occurrence of the 
problem. Might not work in every case but it sure did for him.

Cheers, Roger B
NZ

On 5/08/2011, at 2:06 PM, Rod Samuelson wrote:

 Will cs help with athlete fungus?
  
 Rod Samuelson
 860-881-3734 cell
 new email address  rsamuels...@cox.net
 
  



Re: CSathletes' foot

2011-08-04 Thread slickpicker
Roger:

How did your friend use your CS...full strength foot soaks?

Thanks,
Terry

 Roger Barker rbar...@clear.net.nz wrote: 
 Hi Rod, a few years ago a shop keeper friend complained to me that he had 
 athlete's foot and that his doctor had been unable to completely cure it. I 
 supplied him with a bottle of my home made CS and he was so taken with the 
 results he asked me to make him a CS generator and show him how to get 
 started on production. Since then I'm glad to say he's had no occurrence of 
 the problem. Might not work in every case but it sure did for him.
 
 Cheers, Roger B
 NZ
 
 On 5/08/2011, at 2:06 PM, Rod Samuelson wrote:
 
  Will cs help with athlete fungus?
   
  Rod Samuelson
  860-881-3734 cell
  new email address  rsamuels...@cox.net
  
   
 


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Re: Re: CSAthletes foot and CS and DMSO

2007-11-14 Thread Dianne France
It's around $7 around here.  Size make make a difference.  I think ours come in 
pint bottles.  I go thru it pretty quick.

D
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  Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2007 9:24 PM
  Subject: Re: Re: CSAthletes foot and CS and DMSO


  Heck That's cheap, they charge out the nose for an 8oz bottle at the feed 
  stores around here. I think the last time I priced it, it was like 12.99!

  Liz



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  Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2007 6:39 PM
  Subject: Re: Re: CSAthletes foot and CS and DMSO


   i've used that very same dmso for about three years now, and it is good 
   stuff.  they  also make a a dmso gel, same purity. get it at a local feed 
   store, $4.99.
  
   jim
  
  From: wordsjunkie wordsjun...@gmail.commailto:wordsjun...@gmail.com
  Date: 2007/11/13 Tue PM 04:28:43 CST
  To: silver-list@eskimo.commailto:silver-list@eskimo.com
  Subject: Re: CSAthletes foot and CS and DMSO
  
  They've got it real cheap on Amazon right now: 
  
http://www.amazon.com/DMSO-Liquid-99%25-oz-pint/dp/B00076HSVG/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8s=home-gardenqid=1194992742sr=1-3
 
  99% pure. I dunno if the .9 % difference is big enough to make  a 
  difference but if it is just ignore me, LOL:) Liz  - Original 
  Message -   From:  Ian   Davies   To: 
silver-list@eskimo.commailto:silver-list@eskimo.com   Sent: 
  Tuesday, November 13, 2007 1:44   PM  Subject: CSAthletes foot and CS and 
  DMSO
Hello, Thanks for all the feedback.  I went to the pharmacy today 
   and asked if they could get me some DMSO   (dimethyl sulphoxide). I was 
   told that it is available but in powder form, I   have never seen it 
   advertised on the Internet in powder form, is it the   same thing? If so, 
   what % solution should it be made up to and should   injectable water 
   be used for the dilution or would normal distilled water be   OK? There 
   was another confusing part to the conversation with the pharmacist,   I 
   apparently need a prescription, or have a registered laboratory to buy 
   it here in Spain. She didn't know if a vet's prescription would suffice, 
   she   is checking, I don't know any doctor's who would give me a 
   prescription for it   but I have several vet friends who might.  Ian 
   in Spain
  
  
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Re: CSAthletes foot and CS and DMSO

2007-11-13 Thread cking001
I never heard of powdered DMSO.
Ian, if you have vet friends, maybe they can give you a sample 4 oz
bottle.
That's how I got my first bottle over 20 years ago.

Chuck
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Ya see the word Download, and take the shells out of yer shotgun. 
 


On 11/13/2007 2:44:47 PM, Ian Davies (blackyme...@gmail.com) wrote:
 Hello,
 
 Thanks for all the feedback.
 I went to the pharmacy today and asked if they could get me some DMSO
 (dimethyl sulphoxide). I was told that it is available but in powder form,
 I have never seen it advertised on the Internet in powder form, is it the
 same thing? If so, what % solution should it be made up to and should
 injectable water be used for the dilution or would normal distilled
 water be OK? There was another confusing part to the conversation with the
 pharmacist, I apparently need a prescription, or have a registered
 laboratory to buy it here in Spain. She didn't know if a vet's
 prescription would suffice, she is checking, I don't know any doctor's who
 would give me a prescription for it but I have several vet friends who
 might.
 
 Ian in Spain


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Re: CSAthletes foot and CS and DMSO

2007-11-13 Thread Tad Winiecki
Try going to a feed store or pet store where they sell supplies for 
horses instead.  That's where I got some in the USA.


Nancy
On Nov 13, 2007, at 11:44 AM, Ian Davies wrote:

 went to the pharmacy today and asked if they could get me some DMSO 
(dimethyl sulphoxide). 



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Re: CSAthletes foot and CS and DMSO

2007-11-13 Thread Marshall Dudley

Ian Davies wrote:

Hello,
 
Thanks for all the feedback.
I went to the pharmacy today and asked if they could get me some DMSO 
(dimethyl sulphoxide). I was told that it is available but in powder 
form, I have never seen it advertised on the Internet in powder form, 
is it the same thing? If so, what % solution should it be made up to 
and should injectable water be used for the dilution or would normal 
distilled water be OK? There was another confusing part to the 
conversation with the pharmacist, I apparently need a prescription, or 
have a registered laboratory to buy it here in Spain. She didn't know 
if a vet's prescription would suffice, she is checking, I don't know 
any doctor's who would give me a prescription for it but I have 
several vet friends who might.
 
Ian in Spain
DMSO is a liquid. There is no powder form, only if you freeze it. It is 
like saying water in powder form.


Marshall


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Re: CSAthletes foot and CS and DMSO

2007-11-13 Thread wordsjunkie
They've got it real cheap on Amazon right now:

http://www.amazon.com/DMSO-Liquid-99%25-oz-pint/dp/B00076HSVG/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8s=home-gardenqid=1194992742sr=1-3

99% pure. I dunno if the .9 % difference is big enough to make  a difference 
but if it is just ignore me, LOL:)

Liz
  - Original Message - 
  From: Ian Davies 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2007 1:44 PM
  Subject: CSAthletes foot and CS and DMSO


  Hello,

  Thanks for all the feedback.
  I went to the pharmacy today and asked if they could get me some DMSO 
(dimethyl sulphoxide). I was told that it is available but in powder form, I 
have never seen it advertised on the Internet in powder form, is it the same 
thing? If so, what % solution should it be made up to and should injectable 
water be used for the dilution or would normal distilled water be OK? There was 
another confusing part to the conversation with the pharmacist, I apparently 
need a prescription, or have a registered laboratory to buy it here in Spain. 
She didn't know if a vet's prescription would suffice, she is checking, I don't 
know any doctor's who would give me a prescription for it but I have several 
vet friends who might. 

  Ian in Spain

Re: CSAthletes foot and CS and DMSO

2007-11-13 Thread Dianne France
Ian

I've never seen it in powder.  We've been using it for 40 years and it's always 
been liquid.  I wonder if you can have it shipped to you from the states or 
would that be illegal?

Dianne
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  To: silver-list@eskimo.commailto:silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2007 2:44 PM
  Subject: CSAthletes foot and CS and DMSO


  Hello,

  Thanks for all the feedback.
  I went to the pharmacy today and asked if they could get me some DMSO 
(dimethyl sulphoxide). I was told that it is available but in powder form, I 
have never seen it advertised on the Internet in powder form, is it the same 
thing? If so, what % solution should it be made up to and should injectable 
water be used for the dilution or would normal distilled water be OK? There was 
another confusing part to the conversation with the pharmacist, I apparently 
need a prescription, or have a registered laboratory to buy it here in Spain. 
She didn't know if a vet's prescription would suffice, she is checking, I don't 
know any doctor's who would give me a prescription for it but I have several 
vet friends who might. 

  Ian in Spain

Re: Re: CSAthletes foot and CS and DMSO

2007-11-13 Thread Acmeair
i've used that very same dmso for about three years now, and it is good stuff.  
they  also make a a dmso gel, same purity. get it at a local feed store, $4.99.

jim

From: wordsjunkie wordsjun...@gmail.com
Date: 2007/11/13 Tue PM 04:28:43 CST
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSAthletes foot and CS and DMSO

They've got it real cheap on Amazon right now: 
http://www.amazon.com/DMSO-Liquid-99%25-oz-pint/dp/B00076HSVG/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8s=home-gardenqid=1194992742sr=1-3
 99% pure. I dunno if the .9 % difference is big enough to make  a difference 
but if it is just ignore me, LOL:) Liz  - Original Message -   From:  
Ian   Davies   To: silver-list@eskimo.com   Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2007 
1:44   PM  Subject: CSAthletes foot and CS and   DMSO  
  Hello, Thanks for all the feedback.  I went to the pharmacy today and 
 asked if they could get me some DMSO   (dimethyl sulphoxide). I was told that 
 it is available but in powder form, I   have never seen it advertised on the 
 Internet in powder form, is it the   same thing? If so, what % solution 
 should it be made up to and should   injectable water be used for the 
 dilution or would normal distilled water be   OK? There was another confusing 
 part to the conversation with the pharmacist,   I apparently need a 
 prescription, or have a registered laboratory to buy   it here in Spain. She 
 didn't know if a vet's prescription would suffice, she   is checking, I don't 
 know any doctor's who would give me a prescription for it   but I have 
 several vet friends who might.  Ian in Spain


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Re: Re: CSAthletes foot and CS and DMSO

2007-11-13 Thread wordsjunkie
Heck That's cheap, they charge out the nose for an 8oz bottle at the feed 
stores around here. I think the last time I priced it, it was like 12.99!


Liz



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From: Acmeair res00...@verizon.net

To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2007 6:39 PM
Subject: Re: Re: CSAthletes foot and CS and DMSO


i've used that very same dmso for about three years now, and it is good 
stuff.  they  also make a a dmso gel, same purity. get it at a local feed 
store, $4.99.


jim


From: wordsjunkie wordsjun...@gmail.com
Date: 2007/11/13 Tue PM 04:28:43 CST
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSAthletes foot and CS and DMSO


They've got it real cheap on Amazon right now: 
http://www.amazon.com/DMSO-Liquid-99%25-oz-pint/dp/B00076HSVG/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8s=home-gardenqid=1194992742sr=1-3 
99% pure. I dunno if the .9 % difference is big enough to make  a 
difference but if it is just ignore me, LOL:) Liz  - Original 
Message -   From:  Ian   Davies   To: silver-list@eskimo.com   Sent: 
Tuesday, November 13, 2007 1:44   PM  Subject: CSAthletes foot and CS and 
DMSO
 Hello, Thanks for all the feedback.  I went to the pharmacy today 
and asked if they could get me some DMSO   (dimethyl sulphoxide). I was 
told that it is available but in powder form, I   have never seen it 
advertised on the Internet in powder form, is it the   same thing? If so, 
what % solution should it be made up to and should   injectable water 
be used for the dilution or would normal distilled water be   OK? There 
was another confusing part to the conversation with the pharmacist,   I 
apparently need a prescription, or have a registered laboratory to buy 
it here in Spain. She didn't know if a vet's prescription would suffice, 
she   is checking, I don't know any doctor's who would give me a 
prescription for it   but I have several vet friends who might.  Ian 
in Spain



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Re: CSAthletes foot and CS and DMSO

2007-11-13 Thread Dan Nave

They may be referring to MSM which is derived from DMSO.

Dan


Marshall Dudley wrote:

Ian Davies wrote:

Hello,
 
Thanks for all the feedback.
I went to the pharmacy today and asked if they could get me some DMSO 
(dimethyl sulphoxide). I was told that it is available but in powder 
form, I have never seen it advertised on the Internet in powder form, 
is it the same thing? If so, what % solution should it be made up to 
and should injectable water be used for the dilution or would normal 
distilled water be OK? There was another confusing part to the 
conversation with the pharmacist, I apparently need a prescription, or 
have a registered laboratory to buy it here in Spain. She didn't know 
if a vet's prescription would suffice, she is checking, I don't know 
any doctor's who would give me a prescription for it but I have 
several vet friends who might.
 
Ian in Spain
DMSO is a liquid. There is no powder form, only if you freeze it. It is 
like saying water in powder form.


Marshall


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Re: CSAthletes foot and CS and DMSO

2007-11-13 Thread Leslie
There is a site that I believe is www.dmso.com where they sell it. It is 
very reasonable but the postage is more than it cost. Let me know if you 
need further info and I'll hunt the website down on my computer.


Leslie
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From: Dan Nave na...@comcast.net

To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2007 9:12 PM
Subject: Re: CSAthletes foot and CS and DMSO



They may be referring to MSM which is derived from DMSO.

Dan


Marshall Dudley wrote:

Ian Davies wrote:

Hello,
 Thanks for all the feedback.
I went to the pharmacy today and asked if they could get me some DMSO 
(dimethyl sulphoxide). I was told that it is available but in powder 
form, I have never seen it advertised on the Internet in powder form, is 
it the same thing? If so, what % solution should it be made up to and 
should injectable water be used for the dilution or would normal 
distilled water be OK? There was another confusing part to the 
conversation with the pharmacist, I apparently need a prescription, or 
have a registered laboratory to buy it here in Spain. She didn't know if 
a vet's prescription would suffice, she is checking, I don't know any 
doctor's who would give me a prescription for it but I have several vet 
friends who might.

 Ian in Spain
DMSO is a liquid. There is no powder form, only if you freeze it. It is 
like saying water in powder form.


Marshall


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Re: Re: Re: CSAthletes foot and CS and DMSO

2007-11-13 Thread Acmeair
hey peeps! my apologies for not being clearer. 16 oz. dmso,  liquid, $6.99,  4 
1/4 oz dmso gel,  $4.99.  ventura county, calif., feed store, 3 months ago.

jim

From: wordsjunkie wordsjun...@gmail.com
Date: 2007/11/13 Tue PM 08:24:05 CST
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: Re: CSAthletes foot and CS and DMSO

Heck That's cheap, they charge out the nose for an 8oz bottle at the feed 
stores around here. I think the last time I priced it, it was like 12.99!

Liz



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From: Acmeair res00...@verizon.net
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2007 6:39 PM
Subject: Re: Re: CSAthletes foot and CS and DMSO


 i've used that very same dmso for about three years now, and it is good 
 stuff.  they  also make a a dmso gel, same purity. get it at a local feed 
 store, $4.99.

 jim



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Re: CSAthletes foot and colloidal silver

2007-11-12 Thread Marshall Dudley

faith gagne wrote:
Okay.  So they would have to buy DSMO in a pet or animal supply store? 

I get mine in the health food store.  it is in the cleaning section.

Are there different strengths of it?

Normally it is pure, and requires dilution before use.

  Is it cream or liquid?

DMSO is a liquid.  It can be mixed with things to make a cream.
Do you just rub it on or can  you drink it? 

Some people drink it, I never have.

Are there tablets?

No, you cannot put a volatile liquid into a tablet.

Marshall
 
Thanks very much Dianne.
 
Faith G
 
 


- Original Message -
*From:* Dianne France mailto:dianne_fra...@hotmail.com
*To:* silver-list@eskimo.com mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com
*Sent:* Saturday, November 10, 2007 9:31 AM
*Subject:* Re: CSAthletes foot and colloidal silver

Faith
 
We do have horses but buy the DMSO for ourselves also.  I have

severe arthritis and use it mixed with the colloidal silver to
paint the effected areas.  Am using that treatment to try and
avoid more surgeries.  It has helped with pain and swelling.  I
was just trying to answer where you could get it.
 
Dianne


- Original Message -
*From:* faith gagne mailto:jitte...@gis.net
*To:* silver-list@eskimo.com mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com
*Sent:* Saturday, November 10, 2007 7:34 AM
*Subject:* Re: CSAthletes foot and colloidal silver

Thanks Dianne, but I don't have a horse. I thought some people
were using it for arthritis pain.  I have a friend who has
osteoarthritis and is pain 24/7.  I was going to suggest it to
him but I don't know if he would buy a horse medicine.  Thanks
anyway.
 
Faith G
 
 


- Original Message -
*From:* Dianne France mailto:dianne_fra...@hotmail.com
*To:* silver-list@eskimo.com mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com
*Sent:* Friday, November 09, 2007 9:19 PM
*Subject:* Re: CSAthletes foot and colloidal silver

Faith,
You can get medical grade from a veterinarian or you can
buy 99.9% at horse feed/supply stores.  It isn't
expensive.  It comes in liquid and gel.  We use the
liquid.  There are equine supply stores on line that you
can also buy from.
 
Dianne


- Original Message -
*From:* faith gagne mailto:jitte...@gis.net
*To:* silver-list@eskimo.com
mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com
*Sent:* Friday, November 09, 2007 7:36 PM
*Subject:* Re: CSAthletes foot and colloidal silver

Where do you get DMSO?  thanks.

Faith G.


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From: cking...@nycap.rr.com
mailto:cking...@nycap.rr.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Friday, November 09, 2007 5:17 PM
Subject: Re: CSAthletes foot and colloidal silver


On 11/9/2007 2:48:46 PM, Ian Davies
(blackyme...@gmail.com mailto:blackyme...@gmail.com)
wrote:
Would
DMSO added to the CS make it more effective with this
condition? If so,
would 10% DMSO be the adequate dillution? Any
feedback would be gratefully
received as would any other suggestions.

Ian in Spain

DMSO at 10% is an excellent idea mixed with CS.
It gets the CS into difficult area.

Chuck

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Re: CSAthletes foot and colloidal silver

2007-11-12 Thread faith gagne

Thanks Marshall.

Faith G.


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To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Monday, November 12, 2007 11:43 AM
Subject: Re: CSAthletes foot and colloidal silver



faith gagne wrote:
Okay.  So they would have to buy DSMO in a pet or animal supply store? 

I get mine in the health food store.  it is in the cleaning section.

Are there different strengths of it?

Normally it is pure, and requires dilution before use.

  Is it cream or liquid?

DMSO is a liquid.  It can be mixed with things to make a cream.
Do you just rub it on or can  you drink it? 

Some people drink it, I never have.

Are there tablets?

No, you cannot put a volatile liquid into a tablet.

Marshall
 
Thanks very much Dianne.
 
Faith G
 
 


- Original Message -
*From:* Dianne France mailto:dianne_fra...@hotmail.com
*To:* silver-list@eskimo.com mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com
*Sent:* Saturday, November 10, 2007 9:31 AM
*Subject:* Re: CSAthletes foot and colloidal silver

Faith
 
We do have horses but buy the DMSO for ourselves also.  I have

severe arthritis and use it mixed with the colloidal silver to
paint the effected areas.  Am using that treatment to try and
avoid more surgeries.  It has helped with pain and swelling.  I
was just trying to answer where you could get it.
 
Dianne


- Original Message -
*From:* faith gagne mailto:jitte...@gis.net
*To:* silver-list@eskimo.com mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com
*Sent:* Saturday, November 10, 2007 7:34 AM
*Subject:* Re: CSAthletes foot and colloidal silver

Thanks Dianne, but I don't have a horse. I thought some people
were using it for arthritis pain.  I have a friend who has
osteoarthritis and is pain 24/7.  I was going to suggest it to
him but I don't know if he would buy a horse medicine.  Thanks
anyway.
 
Faith G
 
 


- Original Message -
*From:* Dianne France mailto:dianne_fra...@hotmail.com
*To:* silver-list@eskimo.com mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com
*Sent:* Friday, November 09, 2007 9:19 PM
*Subject:* Re: CSAthletes foot and colloidal silver

Faith,
You can get medical grade from a veterinarian or you can
buy 99.9% at horse feed/supply stores.  It isn't
expensive.  It comes in liquid and gel.  We use the
liquid.  There are equine supply stores on line that you
can also buy from.
 
Dianne


- Original Message -
*From:* faith gagne mailto:jitte...@gis.net
*To:* silver-list@eskimo.com
mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com
*Sent:* Friday, November 09, 2007 7:36 PM
*Subject:* Re: CSAthletes foot and colloidal silver

Where do you get DMSO?  thanks.

Faith G.


- Original Message -
From: cking...@nycap.rr.com
mailto:cking...@nycap.rr.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Friday, November 09, 2007 5:17 PM
Subject: Re: CSAthletes foot and colloidal silver


On 11/9/2007 2:48:46 PM, Ian Davies
(blackyme...@gmail.com mailto:blackyme...@gmail.com)
wrote:
Would
DMSO added to the CS make it more effective with this
condition? If so,
would 10% DMSO be the adequate dillution? Any
feedback would be gratefully
received as would any other suggestions.

Ian in Spain

DMSO at 10% is an excellent idea mixed with CS.
It gets the CS into difficult area.

Chuck

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They are all owned
by cats.


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Re: CSAthletes foot and colloidal silver

2007-11-11 Thread faith gagne

Okay.  I'll tell him.  Thanks again.

Faith G.


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From: M. G. Devour mdev...@eskimo.com

To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Sunday, November 11, 2007 12:32 AM
Subject: Re: CSAthletes foot and colloidal silver



Thanks very much Mike.  I will relate this information to him.  But his
problem really is not athletes foot, it is osteo-arthritis.


Arthritis is what I thought we were talking about. Just rub it on where 
it hurts, maybe a couple or three times per day? It goes after 
inflamation, improves circulation, and is analgesic in itself.


Just make sure there's nothing on your skin or hands that you wouldn't 
want carried into every cell of your body -- don't put it on right 
after applying bug spray in the garden, for instance!!


Other people's suggestions for things to soothe the skin between 
applications may help, too.


Be well,

Mike D.

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Re: CSAthletes foot and colloidal silver

2007-11-10 Thread faith gagne
Thanks Dianne, but I don't have a horse. I thought some people were using it 
for arthritis pain.  I have a friend who has osteoarthritis and is pain 24/7.  
I was going to suggest it to him but I don't know if he would buy a horse 
medicine.  Thanks anyway.

Faith G


  - Original Message - 
  From: Dianne France 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Friday, November 09, 2007 9:19 PM
  Subject: Re: CSAthletes foot and colloidal silver


  Faith,
  You can get medical grade from a veterinarian or you can buy 99.9% at horse 
feed/supply stores.  It isn't expensive.  It comes in liquid and gel.  We use 
the liquid.  There are equine supply stores on line that you can also buy from.

  Dianne
- Original Message - 
From: faith gagne 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Friday, November 09, 2007 7:36 PM
Subject: Re: CSAthletes foot and colloidal silver


Where do you get DMSO?  thanks.

Faith G.


- Original Message - 
From: cking...@nycap.rr.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Friday, November 09, 2007 5:17 PM
Subject: Re: CSAthletes foot and colloidal silver


On 11/9/2007 2:48:46 PM, Ian Davies (blackyme...@gmail.com) wrote:
Would
DMSO added to the CS make it more effective with this condition? If so,
would 10% DMSO be the adequate dillution? Any feedback would be gratefully
received as would any other suggestions.

Ian in Spain

DMSO at 10% is an excellent idea mixed with CS.
It gets the CS into difficult area.

Chuck

There are many intelligent species in the universe. They are all owned
by cats.


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Re: CSAthletes foot and colloidal silver

2007-11-10 Thread Dianne France
Faith

We do have horses but buy the DMSO for ourselves also.  I have severe arthritis 
and use it mixed with the colloidal silver to paint the effected areas.  Am 
using that treatment to try and avoid more surgeries.  It has helped with pain 
and swelling.  I was just trying to answer where you could get it.

Dianne
  - Original Message - 
  From: faith gagnemailto:jitte...@gis.net 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.commailto:silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Saturday, November 10, 2007 7:34 AM
  Subject: Re: CSAthletes foot and colloidal silver


  Thanks Dianne, but I don't have a horse. I thought some people were using it 
for arthritis pain.  I have a friend who has osteoarthritis and is pain 24/7.  
I was going to suggest it to him but I don't know if he would buy a horse 
medicine.  Thanks anyway.

  Faith G


- Original Message - 
From: Dianne Francemailto:dianne_fra...@hotmail.com 
To: silver-list@eskimo.commailto:silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Friday, November 09, 2007 9:19 PM
Subject: Re: CSAthletes foot and colloidal silver


Faith,
You can get medical grade from a veterinarian or you can buy 99.9% at horse 
feed/supply stores.  It isn't expensive.  It comes in liquid and gel.  We use 
the liquid.  There are equine supply stores on line that you can also buy from.

Dianne
  - Original Message - 
  From: faith gagnemailto:jitte...@gis.net 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.commailto:silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Friday, November 09, 2007 7:36 PM
  Subject: Re: CSAthletes foot and colloidal silver


  Where do you get DMSO?  thanks.

  Faith G.


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  From: cking...@nycap.rr.commailto:cking...@nycap.rr.com
  To: silver-list@eskimo.commailto:silver-list@eskimo.com
  Sent: Friday, November 09, 2007 5:17 PM
  Subject: Re: CSAthletes foot and colloidal silver


  On 11/9/2007 2:48:46 PM, Ian Davies 
(blackyme...@gmail.commailto:blackyme...@gmail.com) wrote:
  Would
  DMSO added to the CS make it more effective with this condition? If so,
  would 10% DMSO be the adequate dillution? Any feedback would be 
gratefully
  received as would any other suggestions.
  
  Ian in Spain

  DMSO at 10% is an excellent idea mixed with CS.
  It gets the CS into difficult area.

  Chuck

  There are many intelligent species in the universe. They are all owned
  by cats.


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Re: CSAthletes foot and colloidal silver

2007-11-10 Thread faith gagne
Okay.  So they would have to buy DSMO in a pet or animal supply store?  Are 
there different strengths of it?  Is it cream or liquid?  Do you just rub it on 
or can  you drink it?  Are there tablets?

Thanks very much Dianne.

Faith G


  - Original Message - 
  From: Dianne France 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Saturday, November 10, 2007 9:31 AM
  Subject: Re: CSAthletes foot and colloidal silver


  Faith

  We do have horses but buy the DMSO for ourselves also.  I have severe 
arthritis and use it mixed with the colloidal silver to paint the effected 
areas.  Am using that treatment to try and avoid more surgeries.  It has helped 
with pain and swelling.  I was just trying to answer where you could get it.

  Dianne
- Original Message - 
From: faith gagne 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Saturday, November 10, 2007 7:34 AM
Subject: Re: CSAthletes foot and colloidal silver


Thanks Dianne, but I don't have a horse. I thought some people were using 
it for arthritis pain.  I have a friend who has osteoarthritis and is pain 
24/7.  I was going to suggest it to him but I don't know if he would buy a 
horse medicine.  Thanks anyway.

Faith G


  - Original Message - 
  From: Dianne France 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Friday, November 09, 2007 9:19 PM
  Subject: Re: CSAthletes foot and colloidal silver


  Faith,
  You can get medical grade from a veterinarian or you can buy 99.9% at 
horse feed/supply stores.  It isn't expensive.  It comes in liquid and gel.  We 
use the liquid.  There are equine supply stores on line that you can also buy 
from.

  Dianne
- Original Message - 
From: faith gagne 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Friday, November 09, 2007 7:36 PM
Subject: Re: CSAthletes foot and colloidal silver


Where do you get DMSO?  thanks.

Faith G.


- Original Message - 
From: cking...@nycap.rr.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Friday, November 09, 2007 5:17 PM
Subject: Re: CSAthletes foot and colloidal silver


On 11/9/2007 2:48:46 PM, Ian Davies (blackyme...@gmail.com) wrote:
Would
DMSO added to the CS make it more effective with this condition? If so,
would 10% DMSO be the adequate dillution? Any feedback would be 
gratefully
received as would any other suggestions.

Ian in Spain

DMSO at 10% is an excellent idea mixed with CS.
It gets the CS into difficult area.

Chuck

There are many intelligent species in the universe. They are all owned
by cats.


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Re: CSAthletes foot and colloidal silver

2007-11-10 Thread M. G. Devour
 Okay.  So they would have to buy DSMO in a pet or animal supply store? 
 Are there different strengths of it?  Is it cream or liquid?  Do you
 just rub it on or can  you drink it?  Are there tablets?

And for another possible option, here in a midwestern city the local 
health food stores carry it as well. It comes in 4 or 8 ounce bottles 
at a couple of strengths... about 75% and about 50%... very 
approximately, as I'm going from memory. 

It is sold in the stores purely as a solvent with no health-related 
claims because of FDA interference.

Go to www.dmso.org and start familiarizing yourself with it. There are 
a couple of books worth reading on it as well. Search amazon.com.

You'll want to experiment with concentration. If you're lucky you can 
tolerate the 50-ish percent stuff without itching or temporary skin 
irritation. Most people can handle 30% easily. Just rub it on as a 
linament over the affected areas.

By the way, tell him that world-class trainers use DMSO on million 
dollar horses and million dollar athletes, despite the fact that the 
FDA has its head up its ... donkey. It should be okay for him, too.

Hope that helps.

Mike D.

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Re: CSAthletes foot and colloidal silver

2007-11-10 Thread Ted Mozell
Hi Dianne ,I hope you don,t mind me jumping in does it matter what type of 
arthritis it is ? Will it work on osteo arthritis in the ankles is the cs 
suppose to kill some kind of virus and the dmso just delivers it . Thank You Ted

Dianne France dianne_fra...@hotmail.com wrote:Faith
   
  We do have horses but buy the DMSO for ourselves also.  I have severe 
arthritis and use it mixed with the colloidal silver to paint the effected 
areas.  Am using that treatment to try and avoid more surgeries.  It has helped 
with pain and swelling.  I was just trying to answer where you could get it.
   
  Dianne
- Original Message - 
  From: faith gagne 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Saturday, November 10, 2007 7:34 AM
  Subject: Re: CSAthletes foot and colloidal silver
  

  Thanks Dianne, but I don't have a horse. I thought some people were using it 
for arthritis pain.  I have a friend who has osteoarthritis and is pain 24/7.  
I was going to suggest it to him but I don't know if he would buy a horse 
medicine.  Thanks anyway.
   
  Faith G
   
   
- Original Message - 
  From: Dianne France 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Friday, November 09, 2007 9:19 PM
  Subject: Re: CSAthletes foot and colloidal silver
  

Faith,
  You can get medical grade from a veterinarian or you can buy 99.9% at horse 
feed/supply stores.  It isn't expensive.  It comes in liquid and gel.  We use 
the liquid.  There are equine supply stores on line that you can also buy from.
   
  Dianne
- Original Message - 
  From: faith gagne 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Friday, November 09, 2007 7:36 PM
  Subject: Re: CSAthletes foot and colloidal silver
  

Where do you get DMSO?  thanks.

Faith G.


- Original Message - 
From: cking...@nycap.rr.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Friday, November 09, 2007 5:17 PM
Subject: Re: CSAthletes foot and colloidal silver


On 11/9/2007 2:48:46 PM, Ian Davies (blackyme...@gmail.com) wrote:
Would
DMSO added to the CS make it more effective with this condition? If so,
would 10% DMSO be the adequate dillution? Any feedback would be gratefully
received as would any other suggestions.

Ian in Spain

DMSO at 10% is an excellent idea mixed with CS.
It gets the CS into difficult area.

Chuck

There are many intelligent species in the universe. They are all owned
by cats.


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Re: CSAthletes foot and colloidal silver

2007-11-10 Thread Ted Mozell
Hi Dianne ,I hope you don,t mind me jumping in does it matter what type of 
arthritis it is ? Will it work on osteo arthritis in the ankles is the cs 
suppose to kill some kind of virus and the dmso just delivers it . Thank You Ted

Dianne France dianne_fra...@hotmail.com wrote:Faith
   
  We do have horses but buy the DMSO for ourselves also.  I have severe 
arthritis and use it mixed with the colloidal silver to paint the effected 
areas.  Am using that treatment to try and avoid more surgeries.  It has helped 
with pain and swelling.  I was just trying to answer where you could get it.
   
  Dianne
- Original Message - 
  From: faith gagne 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Saturday, November 10, 2007 7:34 AM
  Subject: Re: CSAthletes foot and colloidal silver
  

  Thanks Dianne, but I don't have a horse. I thought some people were using it 
for arthritis pain.  I have a friend who has osteoarthritis and is pain 24/7.  
I was going to suggest it to him but I don't know if he would buy a horse 
medicine.  Thanks anyway.
   
  Faith G
   
   
- Original Message - 
  From: Dianne France 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Friday, November 09, 2007 9:19 PM
  Subject: Re: CSAthletes foot and colloidal silver
  

Faith,
  You can get medical grade from a veterinarian or you can buy 99.9% at horse 
feed/supply stores.  It isn't expensive.  It comes in liquid and gel.  We use 
the liquid.  There are equine supply stores on line that you can also buy from.
   
  Dianne
- Original Message - 
  From: faith gagne 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Friday, November 09, 2007 7:36 PM
  Subject: Re: CSAthletes foot and colloidal silver
  

Where do you get DMSO?  thanks.

Faith G.


- Original Message - 
From: cking...@nycap.rr.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Friday, November 09, 2007 5:17 PM
Subject: Re: CSAthletes foot and colloidal silver


On 11/9/2007 2:48:46 PM, Ian Davies (blackyme...@gmail.com) wrote:
Would
DMSO added to the CS make it more effective with this condition? If so,
would 10% DMSO be the adequate dillution? Any feedback would be gratefully
received as would any other suggestions.

Ian in Spain

DMSO at 10% is an excellent idea mixed with CS.
It gets the CS into difficult area.

Chuck

There are many intelligent species in the universe. They are all owned
by cats.


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Re: CSAthletes foot and colloidal silver

2007-11-10 Thread Dan Nave
The FDA has OK'ed DMSO for some uses in humans.  It just is 
more easy to get and cheaper from the feed store or on-line. 
 Just like colloidal silver, the label has disclaimers on 
it for the benefit of the FDA.


As for using a horse medicine; many horses are worth more 
than many human beings...


Sounds like he would rather buy the expensive stuff from the 
pharmacy, or continue with his athlete's foot fungus.


Dan


faith gagne wrote:
Thanks Dianne, but I don't have a horse. I thought some people were using it for arthritis pain.  


I have a friend who has osteoarthritis and is pain 24/7.  I 
was going to suggest it to him but I don't


know if he would buy a horse medicine.  Thanks anyway.



Faith G


  - Original Message - 
  From: Dianne France 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Friday, November 09, 2007 9:19 PM

  Subject: Re: CSAthletes foot and colloidal silver


  Faith,
  You can get medical grade from a veterinarian or you can buy 99.9% at horse 
feed/supply stores.  It isn't expensive.  It comes in liquid and gel.  We use 
the liquid.  There are equine supply stores on line that you can also buy from.

  Dianne
- Original Message - 
From: faith gagne 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Friday, November 09, 2007 7:36 PM

Subject: Re: CSAthletes foot and colloidal silver


Where do you get DMSO?  thanks.

Faith G.


- Original Message - 
From: cking...@nycap.rr.com

To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Friday, November 09, 2007 5:17 PM
Subject: Re: CSAthletes foot and colloidal silver


On 11/9/2007 2:48:46 PM, Ian Davies (blackyme...@gmail.com) wrote:
Would
DMSO added to the CS make it more effective with this condition? If so,
would 10% DMSO be the adequate dillution? Any feedback would be gratefully
received as would any other suggestions.

Ian in Spain

DMSO at 10% is an excellent idea mixed with CS.
It gets the CS into difficult area.

Chuck

There are many intelligent species in the universe. They are all owned
by cats.


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Re: CSAthletes foot and colloidal silver

2007-11-10 Thread Leslie
I bought mine at Ace Hardware. They have a feed store where I went first and 
then had to go next door to the regular store where they had it. Was less 
than $7.00 which beats paying high postage.


Leslie
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Subject: Re: CSAthletes foot and colloidal silver



Okay.  So they would have to buy DSMO in a pet or animal supply store?
Are there different strengths of it?  Is it cream or liquid?  Do you
just rub it on or can  you drink it?  Are there tablets?


And for another possible option, here in a midwestern city the local
health food stores carry it as well. It comes in 4 or 8 ounce bottles
at a couple of strengths... about 75% and about 50%... very
approximately, as I'm going from memory.

It is sold in the stores purely as a solvent with no health-related
claims because of FDA interference.

Go to www.dmso.org and start familiarizing yourself with it. There are
a couple of books worth reading on it as well. Search amazon.com.

You'll want to experiment with concentration. If you're lucky you can
tolerate the 50-ish percent stuff without itching or temporary skin
irritation. Most people can handle 30% easily. Just rub it on as a
linament over the affected areas.

By the way, tell him that world-class trainers use DMSO on million
dollar horses and million dollar athletes, despite the fact that the
FDA has its head up its ... donkey. It should be okay for him, too.

Hope that helps.

Mike D.

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Re: CSAthletes foot and colloidal silver

2007-11-10 Thread Dianne France
Ted

Both my husband and I have osteo arthritis.  I have it pretty bad in both hands 
and knees.  With painting the effected areas I have gotten some relief and can 
walk better.  A couple of my fingers I couldn't bend now have some bend to them 
and the swelling is down.  I believe you are right about the cs and dmso.  DMSO 
helps the body to re-absorb inflammation and carry it away.  

I wrote another post I didn't see show up so I forwarded it back to the group.  
It has a web site where people are much more knowledgeable about it's uses.  We 
ordered a book I posted also and are in the process of reading it.  They have 
been able to cure cataracts with the use of DMSO and that is one of the reasons 
we are using it in our eyes with the cs.  

Dianne 
  - Original Message - 
  From: Ted Mozellmailto:tedmoz...@sbcglobal.net 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.commailto:silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Saturday, November 10, 2007 12:32 PM
  Subject: Re: CSAthletes foot and colloidal silver


  Hi Dianne ,I hope you don,t mind me jumping in does it matter what type 
of arthritis it is ? Will it work on osteo arthritis in the ankles is the cs 
suppose to kill some kind of virus and the dmso just delivers it . Thank You Ted

  Dianne France dianne_fra...@hotmail.commailto:dianne_fra...@hotmail.com 
wrote: 
Faith

We do have horses but buy the DMSO for ourselves also.  I have severe 
arthritis and use it mixed with the colloidal silver to paint the effected 
areas.  Am using that treatment to try and avoid more surgeries.  It has helped 
with pain and swelling.  I was just trying to answer where you could get it.

Dianne
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  From: faith gagnemailto:jitte...@gis.net 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.commailto:silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Saturday, November 10, 2007 7:34 AM
  Subject: Re: CSAthletes foot and colloidal silver


  Thanks Dianne, but I don't have a horse. I thought some people were using 
it for arthritis pain.  I have a friend who has osteoarthritis and is pain 
24/7.  I was going to suggest it to him but I don't know if he would buy a 
horse medicine.  Thanks anyway.

  Faith G


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From: Dianne Francemailto:dianne_fra...@hotmail.com 
To: silver-list@eskimo.commailto:silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Friday, November 09, 2007 9:19 PM
Subject: Re: CSAthletes foot and colloidal silver


Faith,
You can get medical grade from a veterinarian or you can buy 99.9% at 
horse feed/supply stores.  It isn't expensive.  It comes in liquid and gel.  We 
use the liquid.  There are equine supply stores on line that you can also buy 
from.

Dianne
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  From: faith gagnemailto:jitte...@gis.net 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.commailto:silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Friday, November 09, 2007 7:36 PM
  Subject: Re: CSAthletes foot and colloidal silver


  Where do you get DMSO?  thanks.

  Faith G.


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  From: cking...@nycap.rr.commailto:cking...@nycap.rr.com
  To: silver-list@eskimo.commailto:silver-list@eskimo.com
  Sent: Friday, November 09, 2007 5:17 PM
  Subject: Re: CSAthletes foot and colloidal silver


  On 11/9/2007 2:48:46 PM, Ian Davies 
(blackyme...@gmail.commailto:blackyme...@gmail.com) wrote:
  Would
  DMSO added to the CS make it more effective with this condition? If 
so,
  would 10% DMSO be the adequate dillution? Any feedback would be 
gratefully
  received as would any other suggestions.
  
  Ian in Spain

  DMSO at 10% is an excellent idea mixed with CS.
  It gets the CS into difficult area.

  Chuck

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  by cats.


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Re: CSAthletes foot and colloidal silver

2007-11-10 Thread faith gagne
Thanks very much Mike.  I will relate this information to him.  But his 
problem really is not athletes foot, it is osteo-arthritis.


Faith G.



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To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Saturday, November 10, 2007 5:11 PM
Subject: Re: CSAthletes foot and colloidal silver



Okay.  So they would have to buy DSMO in a pet or animal supply store?
Are there different strengths of it?  Is it cream or liquid?  Do you
just rub it on or can  you drink it?  Are there tablets?


And for another possible option, here in a midwestern city the local
health food stores carry it as well. It comes in 4 or 8 ounce bottles
at a couple of strengths... about 75% and about 50%... very
approximately, as I'm going from memory.

It is sold in the stores purely as a solvent with no health-related
claims because of FDA interference.

Go to www.dmso.org and start familiarizing yourself with it. There are
a couple of books worth reading on it as well. Search amazon.com.

You'll want to experiment with concentration. If you're lucky you can
tolerate the 50-ish percent stuff without itching or temporary skin
irritation. Most people can handle 30% easily. Just rub it on as a
linament over the affected areas.

By the way, tell him that world-class trainers use DMSO on million
dollar horses and million dollar athletes, despite the fact that the
FDA has its head up its ... donkey. It should be okay for him, too.

Hope that helps.

Mike D.

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Re: CSAthletes foot and colloidal silver

2007-11-10 Thread faith gagne
Dianne:  Thank you very much for all the good information.  I will forward it 
to my friends who live several states away from me.  the help will be much 
appreciated.

Faith G.
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  From: Dianne France 
  To: silver-list 
  Sent: Saturday, November 10, 2007 5:55 PM
  Subject: CSAthletes foot and colloidal silver






  Faith

  DMSO (Dimethyl Sulfoxide) can be bought in gel or liquid.  The liquid is 
better for mixing with cs.  DMSO is a penetrate so the skin needs to be clean 
or it will carry whatever is there internal.  Full strength can cause skin 
irritation and some people are more sensitive even when you dilute with cs.  We 
use 50/50 okay without side effects.  The face area is much more sensitive and 
about a 5% or 10% solution is all you would want to use there without 
irritation.  There is a great group site on yahoo for DMSO ( 
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO ).  There are a lot of 
archives there with lots of information.  We also use it mixed with cs in our 
eyes.  The DMSO we order thru our veterinarian can be used IV in horses and I 
feel safer using that mix with cs for our eyes.  

  There is a good book out DMSO Nature's Healer, by Dr. Morton Walker.  It 
explains how to use DMSO to relieve pain, increase circulation, repair tissue 
damage, and fight degenerative diseases.  

  I hope this helps in some way.  
  Dianne




Re: CSAthletes foot and colloidal silver

2007-11-10 Thread M. G. Devour
 Thanks very much Mike.  I will relate this information to him.  But his
 problem really is not athletes foot, it is osteo-arthritis.

Arthritis is what I thought we were talking about. Just rub it on where 
it hurts, maybe a couple or three times per day? It goes after 
inflamation, improves circulation, and is analgesic in itself.

Just make sure there's nothing on your skin or hands that you wouldn't 
want carried into every cell of your body -- don't put it on right 
after applying bug spray in the garden, for instance!!

Other people's suggestions for things to soothe the skin between 
applications may help, too.

Be well,

Mike D.

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Re: CSAthletes foot and colloidal silver

2007-11-09 Thread Dianne France
My husband used the 50/50 DMSO and CS on athlete's foot and it became 
immediately more comfortable.  He needs to make sure his feet are clean before 
using and my husband used a cotton ball held by hemostat to apply the solution. 
 He said he doesn't know that it cured it but he is still using this and is not 
aggravated by it at this time.  

He had tried the 10% and it didn't do much.  It might work over a long period 
of time but he wasn't willing to wait that long so he increased the strength of 
the DMSO.

Dianne


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  From: Ian Daviesmailto:blackyme...@gmail.com 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.commailto:silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Friday, November 09, 2007 2:48 PM
  Subject: CSAthletes foot and colloidal silver


  Hello,

  Does anyone have experience of treating athletes foot with CS (EIS)? 
  Luckily the problem is not mine, it's that of a young neighbour who is a 
basketball player. His father is a pharmacist and works in the industry, we 
have had many interesting discussions about Pharma and alternatives. He has 
finally agreed to try colloidal silver with his son's condition, nothing their 
GP has prescribed has worked What protocol would you recommend other that 
spraying his feet, socks and shoes as often as possible with CS? Would DMSO 
added to the CS make it more effective with this condition? If so, would 10% 
DMSO be the adequate dillution? Any feedback would be gratefully received as 
would any other suggestions. 

  Ian in Spain

Re: CSAthletes foot and colloidal silver

2007-11-09 Thread cking001
On 11/9/2007 2:48:46 PM, Ian Davies (blackyme...@gmail.com) wrote:
Would
DMSO added to the CS make it more effective with this condition? If so,
would 10% DMSO be the adequate dillution? Any feedback would be gratefully
received as would any other suggestions.

Ian in Spain

DMSO at 10% is an excellent idea mixed with CS.
It gets the CS into difficult area.

Chuck

There are many intelligent species in the universe. They are all owned
by cats.


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Re: CSAthletes foot and colloidal silver

2007-11-09 Thread faith gagne

Where do you get DMSO?  thanks.

Faith G.


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To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Friday, November 09, 2007 5:17 PM
Subject: Re: CSAthletes foot and colloidal silver


On 11/9/2007 2:48:46 PM, Ian Davies (blackyme...@gmail.com) wrote:

Would
DMSO added to the CS make it more effective with this condition? If so,
would 10% DMSO be the adequate dillution? Any feedback would be gratefully
received as would any other suggestions.

Ian in Spain


DMSO at 10% is an excellent idea mixed with CS.
It gets the CS into difficult area.

Chuck

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by cats.


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Re: CSAthletes foot and colloidal silver

2007-11-09 Thread Tad Winiecki
I found that there are socks made with silver coated thread, called 
x-static.  I would assume they might work on athlete's foot, I want 
them to possibly help with nail fungus.  Does anyone know a good brand 
or source?  There are lots on google.


Nancy
On Nov 9, 2007, at 11:48 AM, Ian Davies wrote:


Hello,
 
Does anyone have experience of treating athletes foot with CS (EIS)?



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Re: CSAthletes foot and colloidal silver

2007-11-09 Thread Dianne France
Faith,
You can get medical grade from a veterinarian or you can buy 99.9% at horse 
feed/supply stores.  It isn't expensive.  It comes in liquid and gel.  We use 
the liquid.  There are equine supply stores on line that you can also buy from.

Dianne
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  From: faith gagnemailto:jitte...@gis.net 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.commailto:silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Friday, November 09, 2007 7:36 PM
  Subject: Re: CSAthletes foot and colloidal silver


  Where do you get DMSO?  thanks.

  Faith G.


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  To: silver-list@eskimo.commailto:silver-list@eskimo.com
  Sent: Friday, November 09, 2007 5:17 PM
  Subject: Re: CSAthletes foot and colloidal silver


  On 11/9/2007 2:48:46 PM, Ian Davies 
(blackyme...@gmail.commailto:blackyme...@gmail.com) wrote:
  Would
  DMSO added to the CS make it more effective with this condition? If so,
  would 10% DMSO be the adequate dillution? Any feedback would be gratefully
  received as would any other suggestions.
  
  Ian in Spain

  DMSO at 10% is an excellent idea mixed with CS.
  It gets the CS into difficult area.

  Chuck

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  by cats.


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RE: CSAthletes foot and colloidal silver

2007-11-09 Thread bob Larson
drink plenty of CS for a year steadily, wash your feet and dry them well
daily, for any sox turn inside-out  spray them and your feet with CS, coat
all around the periphery of all affected nails especially the open edge with
iodine or tea-tree oil.

you should see clean nice nail growing in from the base steadily until all
is clear.  don't lighten up on them until it's over.  i did, and backslid,
but am catching up again... almost all grown out now, probably a few months
to go til the last discolored parts get trimmed away.

i like diabetic sox for comfort.  i see no reason to invest in silver thread
as long as i have a spray bottle.

 -Original Message-
 From: Tad Winiecki [mailto:winie...@pacifier.com]
 Sent: Friday, November 09, 2007 8:01 PM
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Subject: Re: CSAthletes foot and colloidal silver


 I found that there are socks made with silver coated thread, called
 x-static.  I would assume they might work on athlete's foot, I want
 them to possibly help with nail fungus.  Does anyone know a good brand
 or source?  There are lots on google.

 Nancy
 On Nov 9, 2007, at 11:48 AM, Ian Davies wrote:

  Hello,
   
  Does anyone have experience of treating athletes foot with CS (EIS)?


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Re: CSAthletes foot

2001-09-15 Thread Tel Tofflemire
I bought 40 lbs of pure Biotone power in So. Dakota  @ the corner of hiways
281 and 34  at a well drilling co. for $8.00 a  40 # bag.  It was 99 % pure
and a beautiful very light grey in color. I have mixed CS to wet it and make a
paste and use it on my wifes  skin problems (psorasis) I have used it twice
only at 2 weeks apart.  Her patch is 60% smaller than it was before the
Biotone/CS treatment mud pack. Seems to work. well.
Tel Tofflemire
Phoenix, AZ

Dean T. Miller wrote:

 On Thu, 13 Sep 2001 23:49:22 -0600, A.V.R.A.
 colloidalsilverd...@hotmail.com wrote:

 I use biotone cream as a cream base, and dilute it about 100% - 300%
  sometimes more and sometimes less, depending on skin condition ) with
 colloidal silver ( I run long batches for external use to increase the
 amount of actual silver particle content ).  I add various pure essential
 oils to the blend depending on the use.

 I've looked for Biotone cream around here (central Iowa) and can't
 seem to find any.

 Do you have any suggestions about where I might get some?

 -- Dean -- from (almost) Des Moines -- KB0ZDF

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Re: CSAthletes foot

2001-09-15 Thread A.V.R.A.
Tel:

Are you referring to bentonite powder?

Indeed, I have found an extraordinary amount of success using healing clays
with psorasis.  In fact, on a list dedicated to the condition, I volunteered
at one point to completely fund a private study, contrasting the
effectiveness of a standard 325 mesh industrial grade bentonite with a
healing grade clay. I was certain that both would yield favorable results if
used correctly, yet was highly interested in trying to determine the true
quality difference, and modifying the treatment in cases where no clear
effect was experienced.

Par for the course?

Only two people were interested in participating.

Sometimes the paradox of life is truely amazing.  On a constant basis, we
turn down requests from individuals willing to pay top dollar for a high
quality clay.  And on the other hand, I can't give it away to a targeted
group of people for a study!

( incidently, it was later determined that such a study should be done on a
local basis ).

Eventually we'll get some of this stuff done.

- Original Message -
From: Tel Tofflemire telt...@home.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com; Dean T. Miller dtmil...@midiowa.net
Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2001 12:11 AM
Subject: Re: CSAthletes foot


 I bought 40 lbs of pure Biotone power in So. Dakota  @ the corner of
hiways
 281 and 34  at a well drilling co. for $8.00 a  40 # bag.  It was 99 %
pure
 and a beautiful very light grey in color. I have mixed CS to wet it and
make a
 paste and use it on my wifes  skin problems (psorasis) I have used it
twice
 only at 2 weeks apart.  Her patch is 60% smaller than it was before the
 Biotone/CS treatment mud pack. Seems to work. well.
 Tel Tofflemire
 Phoenix, AZ

 Dean T. Miller wrote:

  On Thu, 13 Sep 2001 23:49:22 -0600, A.V.R.A.
  colloidalsilverd...@hotmail.com wrote:
 
  I use biotone cream as a cream base, and dilute it about 100% - 300%
   sometimes more and sometimes less, depending on skin condition ) with
  colloidal silver ( I run long batches for external use to increase the
  amount of actual silver particle content ).  I add various pure
essential
  oils to the blend depending on the use.
 
  I've looked for Biotone cream around here (central Iowa) and can't
  seem to find any.
 
  Do you have any suggestions about where I might get some?
 
  -- Dean -- from (almost) Des Moines -- KB0ZDF
 
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Re: CSAthletes foot

2001-09-15 Thread Nina Silver
- Original Message -
From: Dean T. Miller dtmil...@midiowa.net
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Friday, September 14, 2001 10:00 PM
Subject: Re: CSAthletes foot


 On Thu, 13 Sep 2001 23:49:22 -0600, A.V.R.A.
 colloidalsilverd...@hotmail.com wrote:
 I use biotone cream as a cream base, and dilute it about 100% - 300%
  sometimes more and sometimes less, depending on skin condition ) with
 colloidal silver ( I run long batches for external use to increase the
 amount of actual silver particle content ).  I add various pure essential
 oils to the blend depending on the use.

 I've looked for Biotone cream around here (central Iowa) and can't
 seem to find any.
 Do you have any suggestions about where I might get some?

 -- Dean -- from (almost) Des Moines -- KB0ZDF

Hi Folks.
My companion used to use Biotone for massage until I pointed out that it
contains Oleth 3. According to Judi Vance, author of BEAUTY TO DIE FOR, this
ingredient is a glycol. Glycols are used to emulsify ingredients in
cosmetics and body care creams and lotions. Unfortunately, as a group
glycols are not optimal to use, since they can be carcinogenic and/or toxic
in other ways and cause adverse reactions.

Biotone happens to be one of the better brands of skin creams available.
Massage practitioners like it because it absorbs so well into the skin.
Oleth 3 is the eighth out of ten ingredients that comprise Biotone. One of
the chief ingredients is listed as Canadian canola oil, and is probably
genetically engineered--although due to the several phases that rapeseed (or
Canola, short for Canadian oil) has gone through, it is hard to say for a
fact that the specific oil in Biotone is genetically engineered.

I like to use simple products. One substance that absorbs well into the skin
is Jojoba, which is squeezed from the seed of the Jojoba plant. Technically
it's not an oil, which makes it non-staining. And since it is close in
composition to the human secretion sebum, this makes it compatible with and
healing to the human skin. Jojoba is expensive, but a little goes a long
way.

Just thought you'd like to know.

It's good to be back online. Except for one brief period when I could get
online, my email service has been out for a few days, since the wires my
company uses were in the World Trade Tower. (I live less than 2 hours from
Manhattan.)

Peace to you all.
Nina Silver


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Re: CSAthletes foot

2001-09-15 Thread Nina Silver

- Original Message -
From: Tel Tofflemire telt...@home.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com; Dean T. Miller dtmil...@midiowa.net
Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2001 2:11 AM
Subject: Re: CSAthletes foot


 I bought 40 lbs of pure Biotone power in So. Dakota  @ the corner of
hiways
 281 and 34  at a well drilling co. for $8.00 a  40 # bag.  It was 99 %
pure
 and a beautiful very light grey in color. I have mixed CS to wet it and
make a
 paste and use it on my wifes  skin problems (psorasis) I have used it
twice
 only at 2 weeks apart.  Her patch is 60% smaller than it was before the
 Biotone/CS treatment mud pack. Seems to work. well.
 Tel Tofflemire
 Phoenix, AZ

Tel,
It seems that the Biotone pow[d]er you have and the Biotone cream that
other people are talking about are two different products. Could you please
tell us more about the powder and what it is?

Thanks.
Nina


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Re: CSAthletes foot

2001-09-15 Thread A.V.R.A.
Hi Nina et al:

- Original Message -
From: Nina Silver ni...@bestweb.net

Very true, Nina, and well said...


 Hi Folks.
 My companion used to use Biotone for massage until I pointed out that it
 contains Oleth 3. According to Judi Vance, author of BEAUTY TO DIE FOR,
this
 ingredient is a glycol. Glycols are used to emulsify ingredients in
 cosmetics and body care creams and lotions. Unfortunately, as a group
 glycols are not optimal to use, since they can be carcinogenic and/or
toxic
 in other ways and cause adverse reactions.

However, the amount of DEAs and similiar substances that the average person
exposes to their body on a daily basis is hudreds of times more than the
diluted cream after it is made.  Not shampooing the hair one day that one
normally would makes up for the increased exposure by far.  Not to
discount your points, because they are extremely valid.  That's why I
referred to the biotone as a lesser of evils.  That's also one reason why I
don't sell a cream.  I would use jojoba oil, which is my favorite massage
oil of choice, but it frankly doesn't work.  It works great for massage and
as a standard carrier, but performs extremely poorly where dermal infections
are concerned.  I cannot stress the fact enough that one does not want any
substance sitting on top of the skin unless one has a specific reason for
it.  What you do to see how things really work, is you strip-clean the skin
of it's natural balancing oils, and then you see what these products really
do.

The best creams in the world, that I have found, come in very, very small
containers where a half-ounce is a six month supply.  I worked with an
Australian Botanist a few years ago who developed the most extraordinary
cream ( coined Omnicron ).  Although he did receive USP approval, our US
government told him to never put it on the common market, that he would be
permitted to sell it underground only.  This after a fight about disclosure
of how the cream was made.  The prime principle of this particular cream was
developed after the botonist spent six months in the mojave desert studying
a very rare cactus which thrived in environments where there was NO
rainfall.  The cream used NO hydrating additives.  Instead, it pulled pure
water in minute quanties from the surrounding air.  It is possible that the
government was interested in the cream for defense projects.  During the
period where he was being harrassed, we had to grant him safe solace on a
private peice of property where the arms of these particular thugs could not
reach ( it should be noted, however, that this botonist had little to no
diplomatic disposition, although in the end I really don't think that should
matter ).

I don't think I will ever be able to re-develop that exact cream, but I
strive to apply the principles I've learned through the experience.

It should be stated, however, that all my own personal work is geared toward
allowing a person to freely operate in the world without great fear of every
substance one touches.  If the body is restored to optimal functionality,
then one has little fear of more common environmental exposures.  If one's
body is not in optimal condition, no amount of careful practices beyond the
absolute extreme will prevent the body from adsorbing these substances which
consequently will do harm.  If one has to think about their healthcare every
moment of the day, then one is only a slave ( this, speaking, for the
average person and not those on special programs to combat specific
disease ).  Today's world is what it is.  Perhaps the world of the future
will be a more favorable place, it is something worth working towards.

The greatest successes I've had is where a problem is identified, dealt
with, eliminated, and the person can get back to LIFE, without another
thought about the condition, but perhaps with a bit more consciousness
awareness of how nature and the world works.

But fear, in any form, is the great killer of spirit.


 Biotone happens to be one of the better brands of skin creams available.
 Massage practitioners like it because it absorbs so well into the skin.
 Oleth 3 is the eighth out of ten ingredients that comprise Biotone. One of
 the chief ingredients is listed as Canadian canola oil, and is probably
 genetically engineered--although due to the several phases that rapeseed
(or
 Canola, short for Canadian oil) has gone through, it is hard to say for
a
 fact that the specific oil in Biotone is genetically engineered.

I have a hard time believing that any ingredients in Biotone cream are
genetically engineered, but stranger things have happened and I'm going to
try to do some research on the subject.



snip
 Peace to you all.
 Nina Silver


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RE: CSAthletes foot

2001-09-14 Thread j . brabet
Do you sell this cream? I would be very interested in buying some, if you
do.

Joseph Brabet.


 --
 From: A.V.R.A.
 Reply To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Sent: Friday, September 14, 2001 7:49 AM
 To:   silver-list@eskimo.com
 Subject:  Re: CSAthletes foot
 
 Terry et al:
 
 A possible explanation for the occurence of athletes foot under these
 circumstances can be derived from a principle of natural medicine.  A
 phenomenon often called the exteriorization of symptoms/illness is quite
 often a byproduct of truly natural therapy, which seeks not to suppress a
 condition but to release it.  One thing that is often affected is the
 acid/basic balance of the body when one undergoes any type of internal
 cleansing.  Many people believe that fungal conditions thrive when the
 body
 becomes overly acidic.
 
 In my own experience, I've seen lesions, rashes, immense swelling and
 severe
 ( albeit temporary ) flulike symptoms, depending on the initial conditions
 being addressed.  Thankfully, these exteriorizations usually depart, never
 to return, upon successful treatment of the initial problem ( when they
 were
 never present to begin with ).
 
 For atheletes foot and other skin conditions of fungal origin, and for
 skin
 that for one reason or another becomes dry but not oily, I developed the
 following formula ingredients:
 
 I use biotone cream as a cream base, and dilute it about 100% - 300%
  sometimes more and sometimes less, depending on skin condition ) with
 colloidal silver ( I run long batches for external use to increase the
 amount of actual silver particle content ).  I add various pure essential
 oils to the blend depending on the use.  For athletes foot, I certainly
 include eucalyptus, and I use myrrh and frankincense in all blends.  Tee
 trea essential oil is a fantastic addition, although both tee trea oil and
 eucalyptus oil can really only be used in extreme moderation for any part
 of
 the body BUT the feet.  The idea is to create a cream that is extremely
 dilute and that doesn't sit on top of the skin.  In order for a blend to
 be
 successful in my book, one applies the cream, waits about three minutes,
 and
 washes the hands in hot water.  No cream should be sitting on the skin,
 and
 yet the soft fragrance of the essential oils should still be evident.
 
 Unfortunately, the cream works so well on severe athletes foot - providing
 extremely rapid relief - that I haven't been able to get anyone to keep
 applying it long enough to see if it would eradicate the condition
 completely.  I don't believe per se that athletes foot can be CURED via
 external means alone, since I believe it is symptomatic of conditions in
 the
 body which must be remedied.
 


Re: CSAthletes foot

2001-09-14 Thread Gladys Williams

I'd be interested in too...Gladys in NYC


On Fri, 14 Sep 2001 11:32:40 +0200 j.bra...@castsoftware.com writes:
Do you sell this cream? I would be very interested in buying some, if you
do. 
Joseph Brabet. 
 

Re: CSAthletes foot

2001-09-14 Thread EJohns9525
In a message dated 09/14/2001 5:22:48 AM Central Daylight Time, 
j.bra...@castsoftware.com writes:


 Do you sell this cream? I would be very interested in buying some, if you do.
  
 Joseph Brabet. 
 

___
So would I !!

Edith


Re: CSAthletes foot

2001-09-14 Thread Duncan Crow
As much as my athlete's foot goes away completely for several months after a
single application of CS spray, data I've just acquired shows oil of oregano
(REAL OREGANO, NOT COMMERCIAL THYME OIL) to be excellent for this and a
couple of hundred other applications, including toenail fungus (Candida)
too.

(Read: The Cure Is In The Cupboard) It says that infection by dermatophytes
is usually chronic, so may take a time before the infection is terminated.

Otherwise you may wish to put a squirt of DMSO in the CS to make it
penetrate the skin better.

You won't know you're cured until the skin (or the nail) grows out.


Duncan Crow



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Re: CSAthletes foot

2001-09-14 Thread Duncan Crow
I'd bet that ozonated olive oil will also get rid of it.  Germs are pretty
wimpy on a diect hit with it. Of course that's also a surface, not wholistic
treatment. You can get it from spress...@hotmail.com Saul Pressman, in
Langley, BC Canada.


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Re: CSAthletes foot

2001-09-14 Thread EJohns9525
In a message dated 09/14/2001 2:15:07 PM Central Daylight Time, 
duncanc...@yahoo.com writes:


 Otherwise you may wish to put a squirt of DMSO in the CS to make it
 penetrate the skin better.
 

___
Where can I buy DMSO?

Edith


Re: CSAthletes foot

2001-09-14 Thread Chip Hoyle
Your local health food store or www.dmso.com

Chip

ejohns9...@aol.com wrote:

 In a message dated 09/14/2001 2:15:07 PM Central Daylight Time,
 duncanc...@yahoo.com writes:



 Otherwise you may wish to put a squirt of DMSO in the CS to make it
 penetrate the skin better.

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 Where can I buy DMSO?

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Re: CSAthletes foot

2001-09-14 Thread brooks bradley
Dear Terry,
If there are no legal restrictions, I would be happy to send you 12
to 14 ouncesgratis.
Let me know.
Sincerely,  Brooks Bradley.
- Original Message -
From: Terry Chamberlin tcj...@yahoo.ca
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Friday, September 14, 2001 3:37 PM
Subject: CSAthletes foot


 Brooks,
 I would love to use DMSO for a number of issues, but
 here in Canada, the only way to get DMSO is with a
 veterinarian's prescription. Then it would cost me $60
 for 4 oz.

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Re: CSAthletes foot

2001-09-14 Thread Dean T. Miller
On Thu, 13 Sep 2001 23:49:22 -0600, A.V.R.A.
colloidalsilverd...@hotmail.com wrote:

I use biotone cream as a cream base, and dilute it about 100% - 300%
 sometimes more and sometimes less, depending on skin condition ) with
colloidal silver ( I run long batches for external use to increase the
amount of actual silver particle content ).  I add various pure essential
oils to the blend depending on the use.  

I've looked for Biotone cream around here (central Iowa) and can't
seem to find any.  

Do you have any suggestions about where I might get some?

-- Dean -- from (almost) Des Moines -- KB0ZDF


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Re: CSAthletes foot

2001-09-14 Thread Dean T. Miller
On Thu, 13 Sep 2001 23:49:22 -0600, A.V.R.A.
colloidalsilverd...@hotmail.com wrote:

I use biotone cream as a cream base

Never mind.  :)

I found some at: http://www.bodyworkcentral.com/biotone.html


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Re: CSAthletes foot

2001-09-14 Thread A.V.R.A.
Thank you all for your interest in the cream.  Sadly, I do not nor cannot sell 
any products at this time.  It REALLY is not difficult to produce.  Biotone 
cream can usually be purchased from a massage resale store ( make sure to get 
the cream and not the oil ).  When acquiring essential oils, make sure that 
they are pure, and if at all possible not extracted using alcohol.

Terry, I'm sorry to hear about the sensitivity to the biotone cream, it is 
rare.  Keep in mind ( for yourself ) that there is a big difference between 
using biotone cream straight and biotone cream as a base.  The developed end 
product is extremely watery - moreso than the average soup.  An ounce of the 
final product can last a month, even if used daily for the hands and face.  A 
drop is placed on the finger and massaged into the skin - this process is 
repeated for a uniform coat.  For the feet, it is lightly coated on.

My choice for the biotone cream is currently a default choice.  It's the lesser 
of the evils that I've tested.  I needed to develop a cream that did not 
promote the spread of bacteria 20 minutes after application as it began to 
break down, one that did not clog pores nor overly irritate the skin ( the 
essential oils are a very light irritant when used properly, but the effect 
subsides about three minutes after application as the essential oils are 
adsorbed and is part of the desired effect ), and one did not just sit on top 
of the skin and attract dirt ( which in turn irritates the skin which in turn 
creates a favorable environment for bacteria ).

The finest formula I've been able to develop I cannot currently create due to 
cost of raw materials.  The prime emulsifying and binding agent is chitosan, 
the secondary ingredient is real crushed pearls - possibly with some natural 
moss used for thickness.  It, of course, is imperative that the end formula be 
created without the use of heat, which rules out all of the common agents, 
even if they WERE desireable agents.  Even the really fine oils such as olive 
oil, jajoba, almond and grapeseed, all tend to have less than desireable 
effects after being on the skin for an extended period of time ( when dealing 
with incredibly sensitive skin ).

Biotone cream does have a fragrance from the essential oils and plant extracts 
that are used.

Futhermore, my original design ideas had to fullfill the prerequisite of the 
substance being able to be applied under makeup.  The people I worked with at 
the time were serious public performers who constantly dealt with skin problems 
due to the high amount of makeup that the profession requires be applied.  

Although I did not succeed to my satisfaction at that time, later work with 
extremely severe adult onset acne placed me in a catch 22 position.  With 
intensive healing clay treatments, I could pull much of the infection out of 
the skin in a relatively short period of time.  However, a byproduct of using 
too much clay to the face ( over and over again during the day ), is the 
dehydration of the skin, which in turn creates the ideal environment for the 
bacteria to reinfect the tissues.  The treatment of both boils and cysts is not 
rapid, and skin infections of these types tend to be cyclic.  Because of this 
problem, the best I could achieve  was extreme reduction in pain and a gradual 
cessation of the condition, with the infection losing hold a bit more after 
each cycle ( all these in situations where it was not possible to do two to 
three clay packs daily because of circumstances ).


- Original Message - 
  From: ejohns9...@aol.com 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Friday, September 14, 2001 7:26 AM
  Subject: Re: CSAthletes foot


  In a message dated 09/14/2001 5:22:48 AM Central Daylight Time, 
j.bra...@castsoftware.com writes: 



Do you sell this cream? I would be very interested in buying some, if you 
do. 
Joseph Brabet. 



  ___ 
  So would I !! 

  Edith 


Re: CSAthletes foot

2001-09-13 Thread brooks bradley
Dear Terry,
While I have no useful address for your interesting
post.relative to your liver cleansing experience;  I do have a comment
that may prove of value for athlete's foot protocols.  Some years ago,
during some ad hoc evaluations of Tea Tree oil and skin-surface fungal
infections in generalwe discovered a useful adjunctive.  Both the speed
and efficacy of Tea Tree oil were greatly enhanced through the application
of 50% DMSO applied over the Tea Tree oil, directly on the skin
surface.and left unbandaged (unless conditions demand a bandage
interface).
Sincerely,  Brooks Bradley
- Original Message -
From: Terry Chamberlin tcj...@yahoo.ca
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 6:13 PM
Subject: CSAthletes foot


Moving back to the subject of CS, I have been for the
last month performing an extended liver/gallbladder
cleanse. Strangely, as the cleansing proceeds, several
less-than-pleasant symptoms have popped up, among them
very bad athletes foot (or what feels and acts so). I
washed my feet and bathed them 2xday in CS, plus wore
socks that had been soaked in CS, with minimal
benefit. I'll admit, I was surprised. I expected CS to
erase the problem quickly.

I finally applied some Tea Tree oil lotion, and the
problem was gone in one day. Interesting.


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Re: CSAthletes foot

2001-09-13 Thread A.V.R.A.
Terry et al:

A possible explanation for the occurence of athletes foot under these
circumstances can be derived from a principle of natural medicine.  A
phenomenon often called the exteriorization of symptoms/illness is quite
often a byproduct of truly natural therapy, which seeks not to suppress a
condition but to release it.  One thing that is often affected is the
acid/basic balance of the body when one undergoes any type of internal
cleansing.  Many people believe that fungal conditions thrive when the body
becomes overly acidic.

In my own experience, I've seen lesions, rashes, immense swelling and severe
( albeit temporary ) flulike symptoms, depending on the initial conditions
being addressed.  Thankfully, these exteriorizations usually depart, never
to return, upon successful treatment of the initial problem ( when they were
never present to begin with ).

For atheletes foot and other skin conditions of fungal origin, and for skin
that for one reason or another becomes dry but not oily, I developed the
following formula ingredients:

I use biotone cream as a cream base, and dilute it about 100% - 300%
 sometimes more and sometimes less, depending on skin condition ) with
colloidal silver ( I run long batches for external use to increase the
amount of actual silver particle content ).  I add various pure essential
oils to the blend depending on the use.  For athletes foot, I certainly
include eucalyptus, and I use myrrh and frankincense in all blends.  Tee
trea essential oil is a fantastic addition, although both tee trea oil and
eucalyptus oil can really only be used in extreme moderation for any part of
the body BUT the feet.  The idea is to create a cream that is extremely
dilute and that doesn't sit on top of the skin.  In order for a blend to be
successful in my book, one applies the cream, waits about three minutes, and
washes the hands in hot water.  No cream should be sitting on the skin, and
yet the soft fragrance of the essential oils should still be evident.

Unfortunately, the cream works so well on severe athletes foot - providing
extremely rapid relief - that I haven't been able to get anyone to keep
applying it long enough to see if it would eradicate the condition
completely.  I don't believe per se that athletes foot can be CURED via
external means alone, since I believe it is symptomatic of conditions in the
body which must be remedied.


- Original Message -
From: brooks bradley liat...@flash.net
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 9:03 PM
Subject: Re: CSAthletes foot


 Dear Terry,
 While I have no useful address for your interesting
 post.relative to your liver cleansing experience;  I do have a comment
 that may prove of value for athlete's foot protocols.  Some years ago,
 during some ad hoc evaluations of Tea Tree oil and skin-surface fungal
 infections in generalwe discovered a useful adjunctive.  Both the
speed
 and efficacy of Tea Tree oil were greatly enhanced through the application
 of 50% DMSO applied over the Tea Tree oil, directly on the skin
 surface.and left unbandaged (unless conditions demand a bandage
 interface).
 Sincerely,  Brooks Bradley
 - Original Message -
 From: Terry Chamberlin tcj...@yahoo.ca
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 6:13 PM
 Subject: CSAthletes foot


 Moving back to the subject of CS, I have been for the
 last month performing an extended liver/gallbladder
 cleanse. Strangely, as the cleansing proceeds, several
 less-than-pleasant symptoms have popped up, among them
 very bad athletes foot (or what feels and acts so). I
 washed my feet and bathed them 2xday in CS, plus wore
 socks that had been soaked in CS, with minimal
 benefit. I'll admit, I was surprised. I expected CS to
 erase the problem quickly.

 I finally applied some Tea Tree oil lotion, and the
 problem was gone in one day. Interesting.


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