Re: CS>Bladder infections.

[Dan Nave]

I read, some time ago, that one should always keep some concentration of
hydrogen peroxide in the catheter bag to keep it sterile.  This author felt
it was "criminal" not to have this as a recommended policy.  (Not sure if
it was Hydrogen Peroxide: Medical Miracle by Dr William Campbell Douglass.
I think it was.)

<
http://www.amazon.com/Hydrogen-Peroxide-William-Campbell-Douglass/dp/1885236077
>

Dan


On Sun, May 25, 2014 at 1:19 PM, Ron  wrote:

>  Hi, I'm brand new to the list. Not totally ignorant on CS but lots to
> learn.
> 85 yo male in good health but since I must self catheterize I am plagued
> by bladder infections (lab test confirmed).
> When my temp. gets to 101 or so and I feel lousy I have resorted to
> antibiotics.
> Obviously one day they will not be effective not to mention the harm they
> do elsewhere.
>
> I have started drinking 8 oz of CS (made with a SilverGen) *during the
> night* and even administered rectally every other day for the  past 5
> days.
> It has kept my temp. down but the cloudy urine says that the infection is
> still there. Of course 5 days is a short time and maybe 8 oz is not enough??
>
> Question:
> Would anyone have knowledge or opinion about actually injecting a pint or
> so of CS directly into the bladder?
>
> Now that I write it it seems like - yes it is a no brain-er
> but..
>
> Ron
>
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Re: CS>Bladder infections - Victor

[Joe Huard]

You sent it 4 times that I received.
On 2014-05-26 4:39 PM, Ron wrote:

For some reason I cannot send when I "Reply" so I'll try a new send.

Victor,
I would like to ask if you give stomach acid any consideration when 
drinking the CS?


Ron

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Re: CS>Bladder infections.

[Grace1way]

Hi:
 
I asked Robert Rowen, newsletter writer and board certified physician in  
integrated medicine.  He said that colloidal silver would irritate the  
lining of the bladder, but he offered to teach me to inject ozonated water in  
the bladder.  There is probably still a pocket sized ozone generator sold  on 
_www.amazon.com_ (http://www.amazon.com)  which costs about $69  dollars 
that would make the ozonated water.  
 
Also, you might try D-Mannose, a sugar that kills many of the most common  
bacteria that cause UTIs.  You can buy this at the health food store, but  
it is too expensive,and, from my experience, sold in capsules with not enough 
in  one of them to do any good.  Look online for just the white powder.  I  
got mine from _www.sweetcures.com_ (http://www.sweetcures.com) , but  they 
are in England, and it takes awhile to get your supply.  I'm sure  there are 
other places online you can find where you just get the pure  powder.  The 
package says to take 1 heaping teaspoon or more of Waterfall  D-Mannose in 
water, tea, or fruit juice (not cranberry or orange) at onset of  symptoms.  
Take another an hour later.  Reduce to a level teaspoonful  every three 
hours between meals for 2 days after symptoms abate. Reduce to 3  times a day 
for the next 2-3 days.  If no relief is found within 24 hours,  consult a 
doctor.  If relief is just partial, try taking more.   Maintenance dose:  level 
teaspoon, once per day, or as required.  Take  one hour before sex, and 
immediately after.  
 
You can take this forever, and it does no harm.  The bacteria do not  
develop a resistance to it.  What I would do is take it every three hours  
around 
the clock--just set my alarm clock and have the water and D-Mannose by my  
bed.
 
Hope this helps!
 
 
In a message dated 5/25/2014 11:19:54 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,  
ron@gmail.com writes:

Hi, I'm  brand new to the list. Not totally ignorant on CS but lots to 
learn.
85 yo  male in good health but since I must self catheterize I am plagued 
by bladder  infections (lab test confirmed).
When my temp. gets to 101 or so and I feel  lousy I have resorted to 
antibiotics. 
Obviously one day they will not be  effective not to mention the harm they 
do elsewhere.

I have started  drinking 8 oz of CS (made with a SilverGen) during the 
night and even  administered rectally every other day for the  past 5 days.
It has  kept my temp. down but the cloudy urine says that the infection is 
still  there. Of course 5 days is a short time and maybe 8 oz is not  
enough??

Question:
Would anyone have knowledge or opinion  about actually injecting a pint or 
so of CS directly into the  bladder?

Now that I write it it seems like - yes it is a no brain-er  
but..

Ron


 

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Re: CS>Bladder infections. - Victor

[Victor Cozzetto]

Hi Ron,

I do not. But I do not actually drink large quantities of CS at one time. I
keep it in 16oz PET bottles, and drink a little here and there when I am
thirsty. Maybe a half a glass at a time, but usually less. Most of my
family uses it the same way. I also keep it by my bed at night, and take a
sip and swish if I wake up thirsty.

I actually bring used PET bottles to NY from Japan, because they are more
durable, and having 120z or 160z PET bottles makes using CS so convenient.

I use a silverpuppy device, so I am not worried about keeping the CS in
amber bottles. But I used to do that years ago.

One thing I should have mentioned - I always try to swish it around my
mouth for a while. I think keeping it in your mouth is an important factor
in effectiveness (which has been explained on this site in the past).
Sometimes I swish for ten seconds, sometimes for five minutes.

I am too lazy to use CS every day of my life, so there are times when I
don't drink any for weeks. I never notice any ill effects or digestive
discomfort from CS. Nor does anyone in my family. I have a daughter in
fourth grade, and she has never missed a day of school. We all had our
share of illness before CS, but nothing since.

Of course I realize everyone is different, and I do also consider ph and
other things mentioned here.

BTW, I dip my toothbrush in CS and then in a baking soda and sea salt mix,
which become pasty on my toothbrush. I imagine that this may also
contribute to my overall health.

Victor


On Mon, May 26, 2014 at 4:27 PM, Ron  wrote:

>  I would like to ask you if you give stomach acid any consideration when
> you drink the CS?
>
> Ron
>
> On 5/26/2014 11:09 AM, Victor Cozzetto wrote:
>
>  Lots of good advice already, but I would like to mention that simply
> increasing the quantity of CS might do the trick. You can't overdose on CS,
> and I have seen CS wipe out all manner of illness when enough is used. I
> will drink at least four glasses a day if I feel like I may have caught a
> flu or something. And I have seen UTIs irradiated with similar amounts. CS
> has kept me and my family healthy for many years.
>
>  I would also recommend home made kefir, as it is great for getting the
> gut and body flora healthy and balanced, which will further strengthen your
> immune system.
>
>  Good luck.
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, May 25, 2014 at 2:19 PM, Ron  wrote:
>
>>  Hi, I'm brand new to the list. Not totally ignorant on CS but lots to
>> learn.
>> 85 yo male in good health but since I must self catheterize I am plagued
>> by bladder infections (lab test confirmed).
>> When my temp. gets to 101 or so and I feel lousy I have resorted to
>> antibiotics.
>> Obviously one day they will not be effective not to mention the harm they
>> do elsewhere.
>>
>> I have started drinking 8 oz of CS (made with a SilverGen) *during the
>> night* and even administered rectally every other day for the  past 5
>> days.
>> It has kept my temp. down but the cloudy urine says that the infection is
>> still there. Of course 5 days is a short time and maybe 8 oz is not enough??
>>
>> Question:
>> Would anyone have knowledge or opinion about actually injecting a pint or
>> so of CS directly into the bladder?
>>
>> Now that I write it it seems like - yes it is a no brain-er
>> but..
>>
>> Ron
>>
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[Ron]

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Subject:Re: CS>Bladder infections. - Victor
Date:   Mon, 26 May 2014 12:27:26 -0800
From:   Ron 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com



I would like to ask you if you give stomach acid any consideration when 
you drink the CS?


Ron

On 5/26/2014 11:09 AM, Victor Cozzetto wrote:
Lots of good advice already, but I would like to mention that simply 
increasing the quantity of CS might do the trick. You can't overdose 
on CS, and I have seen CS wipe out all manner of illness when enough 
is used. I will drink at least four glasses a day if I feel like I may 
have caught a flu or something. And I have seen UTIs irradiated with 
similar amounts. CS has kept me and my family healthy for many years.


I would also recommend home made kefir, as it is great for getting the 
gut and body flora healthy and balanced, which will further strengthen 
your immune system.


Good luck.




On Sun, May 25, 2014 at 2:19 PM, Ron <mailto:ron@gmail.com>> wrote:


Hi, I'm brand new to the list. Not totally ignorant on CS but lots
to learn.
85 yo male in good health but since I must self catheterize I am
plagued by bladder infections (lab test confirmed).
When my temp. gets to 101 or so and I feel lousy I have resorted
to antibiotics.
Obviously one day they will not be effective not to mention the
harm they do elsewhere.

I have started drinking 8 oz of CS (made with a SilverGen) _during
the night_ and even administered rectally every other day for the 
past 5 days.

It has kept my temp. down but the cloudy urine says that the
infection is still there. Of course 5 days is a short time and
maybe 8 oz is not enough??

Question:
Would anyone have knowledge or opinion about actually injecting a
pint or so of CS directly into the bladder?

Now that I write it it seems like - yes it is a no brain-er
but..

Ron



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[Ron]

I would like to ask you if you give stomach acid any consideration when 
you drink the CS?


Ron

On 5/26/2014 11:09 AM, Victor Cozzetto wrote:
Lots of good advice already, but I would like to mention that simply 
increasing the quantity of CS might do the trick. You can't overdose on 
CS, and I have seen CS wipe out all manner of illness when enough is 
used. I will drink at least four glasses a day if I feel like I may have 
caught a flu or something. And I have seen UTIs irradiated with similar 
amounts. CS has kept me and my family healthy for many years.


I would also recommend home made kefir, as it is great for getting the 
gut and body flora healthy and balanced, which will further strengthen 
your immune system.


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[Ron]

I would like to ask you if you give stomach acid any consideration when 
you drink the CS?


Ron

On 5/26/2014 11:09 AM, Victor Cozzetto wrote:
Lots of good advice already, but I would like to mention that simply 
increasing the quantity of CS might do the trick. You can't overdose 
on CS, and I have seen CS wipe out all manner of illness when enough 
is used. I will drink at least four glasses a day if I feel like I may 
have caught a flu or something. And I have seen UTIs irradiated with 
similar amounts. CS has kept me and my family healthy for many years.


I would also recommend home made kefir, as it is great for getting the 
gut and body flora healthy and balanced, which will further strengthen 
your immune system.


Good luck.




On Sun, May 25, 2014 at 2:19 PM, Ron > wrote:


Hi, I'm brand new to the list. Not totally ignorant on CS but lots
to learn.
85 yo male in good health but since I must self catheterize I am
plagued by bladder infections (lab test confirmed).
When my temp. gets to 101 or so and I feel lousy I have resorted
to antibiotics.
Obviously one day they will not be effective not to mention the
harm they do elsewhere.

I have started drinking 8 oz of CS (made with a SilverGen) _during
the night_ and even administered rectally every other day for the 
past 5 days.

It has kept my temp. down but the cloudy urine says that the
infection is still there. Of course 5 days is a short time and
maybe 8 oz is not enough??

Question:
Would anyone have knowledge or opinion about actually injecting a
pint or so of CS directly into the bladder?

Now that I write it it seems like - yes it is a no brain-er
but..

Ron



   

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Lots of good advice already, but I would like to mention that simply
increasing the quantity of CS might do the trick. You can't overdose on CS,
and I have seen CS wipe out all manner of illness when enough is used. I
will drink at least four glasses a day if I feel like I may have caught a
flu or something. And I have seen UTIs irradiated with similar amounts. CS
has kept me and my family healthy for many years.

I would also recommend home made kefir, as it is great for getting the gut
and body flora healthy and balanced, which will further strengthen your
immune system.

Good luck.




On Sun, May 25, 2014 at 2:19 PM, Ron  wrote:

>  Hi, I'm brand new to the list. Not totally ignorant on CS but lots to
> learn.
> 85 yo male in good health but since I must self catheterize I am plagued
> by bladder infections (lab test confirmed).
> When my temp. gets to 101 or so and I feel lousy I have resorted to
> antibiotics.
> Obviously one day they will not be effective not to mention the harm they
> do elsewhere.
>
> I have started drinking 8 oz of CS (made with a SilverGen) *during the
> night* and even administered rectally every other day for the  past 5
> days.
> It has kept my temp. down but the cloudy urine says that the infection is
> still there. Of course 5 days is a short time and maybe 8 oz is not enough??
>
> Question:
> Would anyone have knowledge or opinion about actually injecting a pint or
> so of CS directly into the bladder?
>
> Now that I write it it seems like - yes it is a no brain-er
> but..
>
> Ron
>
>
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Re: CS>Bladder infections.

[Marshall]

On 5/25/2014 2:19 PM, Ron wrote:
Hi, I'm brand new to the list. Not totally ignorant on CS but lots to 
learn.
85 yo male in good health but since I must self catheterize I am 
plagued by bladder infections (lab test confirmed).
When my temp. gets to 101 or so and I feel lousy I have resorted to 
antibiotics.
Obviously one day they will not be effective not to mention the harm 
they do elsewhere.


I have started drinking 8 oz of CS (made with a SilverGen) _during the 
night_ and even administered rectally every other day for the  past 5 
days.
It has kept my temp. down but the cloudy urine says that the infection 
is still there. Of course 5 days is a short time and maybe 8 oz is not 
enough??


Question:
Would anyone have knowledge or opinion about actually injecting a pint 
or so of CS directly into the bladder?


Yes, that can be done.  Also consider taking CS along with cranberry 
juice, or cranberry extract.  The combination can work wonders for 
urinary tract and bladder infections.  Make sure it is not cranberry 
cocktail, there should not be any sugar added.


Marshall


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Re: CS>Bladder infections.

[moxaman]

I should have stated that the cranberry juice should be unsweetened and 
without added water and yes capsules or tablets can be substituted. 
Cranberry is not a GMO product however some sugars can be if it is from 
beets.


-Original Message- 
From: Jane MacRoss

Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2014 4:23 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>Bladder infections.

Cranberry juice is possibly GMO - contains too much sugar and is too weak to
do much good - the capsules & tablets are better,  but apart from the
excellent D Mannose, homeopathic Cantharis 200c is brilliant and should
settle things forever

Jane


D Mannose works great for bladder infections.   Better than most 
antibiotics without any side effects.  You can add cranberry juice to that 
if you want to.The juice of a whole lemon once a day helps as well.


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Re: CS>Bladder infections.

[Jane MacRoss]

Cranberry juice is possibly GMO - contains too much sugar and is too weak to 
do much good - the capsules & tablets are better,  but apart from the 
excellent D Mannose, homeopathic Cantharis 200c is brilliant and should 
settle things forever


Jane


D Mannose works great for bladder infections.   Better than most 
antibiotics without any side effects.  You can add cranberry juice to that 
if you want to.The juice of a whole lemon once a day helps as well.


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D Mannose works great for bladder infections.   Better than most antibiotics 
without any side effects.  You can add cranberry juice to that if you want 
to.The juice of a whole lemon once a day helps as well.


Bob

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From: 123 456

Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2014 12:58 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>Bladder infections.

Don...try drinking some cranberry juice.
Old trick.
Tara

On 5/25/14, phoenix23002 tds.net  wrote:

Hello Ron.

Whatever you do, never, ever use DMSO rectally.  It is  a 'carrier' and 
you

don't want any bacteria
from your large intestines getting into any other part of your body.

You might check out D-Mannose available at places like VitaCost and
Swansons Vitamins assuming the cause of your
bladder infections aren't from some strange, exotic bugs.  :)

http://www.tahomaclinicblog.com/d-mannose-for-bladder-and-kidney-infections/

"D-mannose is a naturally occurring simple sugar, closely related (in
chemical terms, a “stereoisomer”) to glucose. Small amounts of D-mannose
are metabolized by our bodies; more than small amounts are excreted
promptly into the urine. But how can even large quantities of a simple
natural sugar do anything at all to cure over 90% of all bladder and
urinary tract infections?

The answer is found in the interaction between D-mannose and the bacterium
found in over 90% of all bladder infections, Escherichia coli (“E. coli”).
[No, that's not the infamous E. coli mutant associated with unsanitary 
food

processing that's hospitalized and killed people. It's the normal E. coli
found as part of the "normal microflora" in every intestinal tract.] But
even normal E. coli don’t belong in the bladder and urinary tract; in 
these

areas it multiplies and becomes an undesirable infection.

But why doesn’t the normal downflow of urine from the kidneys through the
ureters into the bladder and thence beyond simply carry the E. coli right
along with it? What allows the E. coli to “stick” to the inner walls of 
the

bladder and even work their way upward (like “Spiderman”) in some cases
reaching as far as the kidneys?

The “cell walls” of each E. coli are covered with tiny fingerlike
projections. The very tips of these projections are an amino acid-sugar
complex, a “glycoprotein” also called a “lectin”. E. coli “lectins” have
the unfortunate (for us) capability of “sticking” the bacteria to the
inside walls of our bladders and urinary tracts, so they can’t be rinsed
out by urination.

Unfortunately for the E. coli, D-mannose “sticks” to E. coli lectins even
better than E. coli lectins “stick” to human cells. When we take a large
quantity of D-mannose, almost all of it spills into the urine through our
kidneys, literally “coating” any E.coli present so they can no longer
“stick” to the inside walls of the bladder and urinary tract. The E. coli
are literally rinsed away with normal urination!"

read more...
http://www.tahomaclinicblog.com/d-mannose-for-bladder-and-kidney-infections/

--

Do your research.  If this helps, you may have to stay on a lower
maintenance dose to remain free of infections.

Lola H.


On Sun, May 25, 2014 at 3:03 PM, Tony Moody  wrote:


Hi Ron,

I would give it a try. But the bladder has a mucous lining and cs by
itself does not easily
penetrate slime. Thinks; I would add some salt to that convert it to a
weak saline which
should do some slime melting. The downside of that is that the CS is said
to be weaker or
slower acting, because it will convert to silver chloride. The upside to
that is that the silver
chloride is a slow release CS agent. which may be beneficial.

DMSO and CS mix quite well. And this may be the winner. I'd make a very
weak solution of
the DMSO using CS .  Taking DMSO and cs would also help to take that
systemic.

Good luck,

Tony Moody


On 25 May 2014 at 10:19, Ron wrote about :
Subject : CS>Bladder infections.

> Hi, I'm brand new to the list. Not totally ignorant on CS but lots to
> learn. 85 yo male in good health but since I must self catheterize I am
> plagued by bladder infections (lab test confirmed). When my temp. gets
> to
> 101 or so and I feel lousy I have resorted to antibiotics. Obviously
> one
> day they will not be effective not to mention the harm they do
> elsewhere.
>
> I have started drinking 8 oz of CS (made with a SilverGen) _during the
> night_ and even administered rectally every other day for the  past 5
> days. It has kept my temp. down but the cloudy urine says that the
> infection is still there. Of course 5 days is a short time and maybe 8
> oz
> is not enough??
>
> Question:
> Would anyone have knowledge or opinion

Re: CS>Bladder infections.

[Ode Coyote]

  Empty stomach:

Neutralize stomach acid with baking soda water [byproducts are salt and 
carbon dioxide, the salt makes the blood want more water to flush it out]

Then glug down that CS.

Do that 2-3 times a day and see what happens.

Ode

At 10:19 AM 5/25/2014 -0800, you wrote:

Hi, I'm brand new to the list. Not totally ignorant on CS but lots to learn.
85 yo male in good health but since I must self catheterize I am plagued 
by bladder infections (lab test confirmed).
When my temp. gets to 101 or so and I feel lousy I have resorted to 
antibiotics.
Obviously one day they will not be effective not to mention the harm they 
do elsewhere.


I have started drinking 8 oz of CS (made with a SilverGen) during the 
night and even administered rectally every other day for the  past 5 days.
It has kept my temp. down but the cloudy urine says that the infection is 
still there. Of course 5 days is a short time and maybe 8 oz is not enough??


Question:
Would anyone have knowledge or opinion about actually injecting a pint or 
so of CS directly into the bladder?


Now that I write it it seems like - yes it is a no brain-er 
but..


Ron



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[123 456]

Don...try drinking some cranberry juice.
Old trick.
Tara

On 5/25/14, phoenix23002 tds.net  wrote:
> Hello Ron.
>
> Whatever you do, never, ever use DMSO rectally.  It is  a 'carrier' and you
> don't want any bacteria
> from your large intestines getting into any other part of your body.
>
> You might check out D-Mannose available at places like VitaCost and
> Swansons Vitamins assuming the cause of your
> bladder infections aren't from some strange, exotic bugs.  :)
> 
> http://www.tahomaclinicblog.com/d-mannose-for-bladder-and-kidney-infections/
>
> "D-mannose is a naturally occurring simple sugar, closely related (in
> chemical terms, a “stereoisomer”) to glucose. Small amounts of D-mannose
> are metabolized by our bodies; more than small amounts are excreted
> promptly into the urine. But how can even large quantities of a simple
> natural sugar do anything at all to cure over 90% of all bladder and
> urinary tract infections?
>
> The answer is found in the interaction between D-mannose and the bacterium
> found in over 90% of all bladder infections, Escherichia coli (“E. coli”).
> [No, that's not the infamous E. coli mutant associated with unsanitary food
> processing that's hospitalized and killed people. It's the normal E. coli
> found as part of the "normal microflora" in every intestinal tract.] But
> even normal E. coli don’t belong in the bladder and urinary tract; in these
> areas it multiplies and becomes an undesirable infection.
>
> But why doesn’t the normal downflow of urine from the kidneys through the
> ureters into the bladder and thence beyond simply carry the E. coli right
> along with it? What allows the E. coli to “stick” to the inner walls of the
> bladder and even work their way upward (like “Spiderman”) in some cases
> reaching as far as the kidneys?
>
> The “cell walls” of each E. coli are covered with tiny fingerlike
> projections. The very tips of these projections are an amino acid-sugar
> complex, a “glycoprotein” also called a “lectin”. E. coli “lectins” have
> the unfortunate (for us) capability of “sticking” the bacteria to the
> inside walls of our bladders and urinary tracts, so they can’t be rinsed
> out by urination.
>
> Unfortunately for the E. coli, D-mannose “sticks” to E. coli lectins even
> better than E. coli lectins “stick” to human cells. When we take a large
> quantity of D-mannose, almost all of it spills into the urine through our
> kidneys, literally “coating” any E.coli present so they can no longer
> “stick” to the inside walls of the bladder and urinary tract. The E. coli
> are literally rinsed away with normal urination!"
>
> read more...
> http://www.tahomaclinicblog.com/d-mannose-for-bladder-and-kidney-infections/
>
> --
>
> Do your research.  If this helps, you may have to stay on a lower
> maintenance dose to remain free of infections.
>
> Lola H.
>
>
> On Sun, May 25, 2014 at 3:03 PM, Tony Moody  wrote:
>
>> Hi Ron,
>>
>> I would give it a try. But the bladder has a mucous lining and cs by
>> itself does not easily
>> penetrate slime. Thinks; I would add some salt to that convert it to a
>> weak saline which
>> should do some slime melting. The downside of that is that the CS is said
>> to be weaker or
>> slower acting, because it will convert to silver chloride. The upside to
>> that is that the silver
>> chloride is a slow release CS agent. which may be beneficial.
>>
>> DMSO and CS mix quite well. And this may be the winner. I'd make a very
>> weak solution of
>> the DMSO using CS .  Taking DMSO and cs would also help to take that
>> systemic.
>>
>> Good luck,
>>
>> Tony Moody
>>
>>
>> On 25 May 2014 at 10:19, Ron wrote about :
>> Subject : CS>Bladder infections.
>>
>> > Hi, I'm brand new to the list. Not totally ignorant on CS but lots to
>> > learn. 85 yo male in good health but since I must self catheterize I am
>> > plagued by bladder infections (lab test confirmed). When my temp. gets
>> > to
>> > 101 or so and I feel lousy I have resorted to antibiotics. Obviously
>> > one
>> > day they will not be effective not to mention the harm they do
>> > elsewhere.
>> >
>> > I have started drinking 8 oz of CS (made with a SilverGen) _during the
>> > night_ and even administered rectally every other day for the  past 5
>> > days. It has kept my temp. down but the cloudy urine says that the
>> > infection is still there. Of course 5 days is a short time and maybe 8
>> > oz
>> > is not enough??
>> >
>> > Question:
>> > Would anyone have knowledge or opinion about actually injecting a pint
>> > or
>> > so of CS directly into the bladder?
>> >
>> > Now that I write it it seems like - yes it is a no brain-er
>> > but..
>> >
>> > Ron
>> >
>> >
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Re: CS>Bladder infections.

[phoenix23002 tds.net]

Hello Ron.

Whatever you do, never, ever use DMSO rectally.  It is  a 'carrier' and you
don't want any bacteria
from your large intestines getting into any other part of your body.

You might check out D-Mannose available at places like VitaCost and
Swansons Vitamins assuming the cause of your
bladder infections aren't from some strange, exotic bugs.  :)

http://www.tahomaclinicblog.com/d-mannose-for-bladder-and-kidney-infections/

"D-mannose is a naturally occurring simple sugar, closely related (in
chemical terms, a “stereoisomer”) to glucose. Small amounts of D-mannose
are metabolized by our bodies; more than small amounts are excreted
promptly into the urine. But how can even large quantities of a simple
natural sugar do anything at all to cure over 90% of all bladder and
urinary tract infections?

The answer is found in the interaction between D-mannose and the bacterium
found in over 90% of all bladder infections, Escherichia coli (“E. coli”).
[No, that's not the infamous E. coli mutant associated with unsanitary food
processing that's hospitalized and killed people. It's the normal E. coli
found as part of the "normal microflora" in every intestinal tract.] But
even normal E. coli don’t belong in the bladder and urinary tract; in these
areas it multiplies and becomes an undesirable infection.

But why doesn’t the normal downflow of urine from the kidneys through the
ureters into the bladder and thence beyond simply carry the E. coli right
along with it? What allows the E. coli to “stick” to the inner walls of the
bladder and even work their way upward (like “Spiderman”) in some cases
reaching as far as the kidneys?

The “cell walls” of each E. coli are covered with tiny fingerlike
projections. The very tips of these projections are an amino acid-sugar
complex, a “glycoprotein” also called a “lectin”. E. coli “lectins” have
the unfortunate (for us) capability of “sticking” the bacteria to the
inside walls of our bladders and urinary tracts, so they can’t be rinsed
out by urination.

Unfortunately for the E. coli, D-mannose “sticks” to E. coli lectins even
better than E. coli lectins “stick” to human cells. When we take a large
quantity of D-mannose, almost all of it spills into the urine through our
kidneys, literally “coating” any E.coli present so they can no longer
“stick” to the inside walls of the bladder and urinary tract. The E. coli
are literally rinsed away with normal urination!"

read more...
http://www.tahomaclinicblog.com/d-mannose-for-bladder-and-kidney-infections/

--

Do your research.  If this helps, you may have to stay on a lower
maintenance dose to remain free of infections.

Lola H.


On Sun, May 25, 2014 at 3:03 PM, Tony Moody  wrote:

> Hi Ron,
>
> I would give it a try. But the bladder has a mucous lining and cs by
> itself does not easily
> penetrate slime. Thinks; I would add some salt to that convert it to a
> weak saline which
> should do some slime melting. The downside of that is that the CS is said
> to be weaker or
> slower acting, because it will convert to silver chloride. The upside to
> that is that the silver
> chloride is a slow release CS agent. which may be beneficial.
>
> DMSO and CS mix quite well. And this may be the winner. I'd make a very
> weak solution of
> the DMSO using CS .  Taking DMSO and cs would also help to take that
> systemic.
>
> Good luck,
>
> Tony Moody
>
>
> On 25 May 2014 at 10:19, Ron wrote about :
> Subject : CS>Bladder infections.
>
> > Hi, I'm brand new to the list. Not totally ignorant on CS but lots to
> > learn. 85 yo male in good health but since I must self catheterize I am
> > plagued by bladder infections (lab test confirmed). When my temp. gets to
> > 101 or so and I feel lousy I have resorted to antibiotics. Obviously one
> > day they will not be effective not to mention the harm they do elsewhere.
> >
> > I have started drinking 8 oz of CS (made with a SilverGen) _during the
> > night_ and even administered rectally every other day for the  past 5
> > days. It has kept my temp. down but the cloudy urine says that the
> > infection is still there. Of course 5 days is a short time and maybe 8 oz
> > is not enough??
> >
> > Question:
> > Would anyone have knowledge or opinion about actually injecting a pint or
> > so of CS directly into the bladder?
> >
> > Now that I write it it seems like - yes it is a no brain-er
> > but..
> >
> > Ron
> >
> >
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Re: CS>Bladder infections.

[Tony Moody]

Hi Ron,

I would give it a try. But the bladder has a mucous lining and cs by itself 
does not easily 
penetrate slime. Thinks; I would add some salt to that convert it to a weak 
saline which 
should do some slime melting. The downside of that is that the CS is said to be 
weaker or 
slower acting, because it will convert to silver chloride. The upside to that 
is that the silver 
chloride is a slow release CS agent. which may be beneficial.

DMSO and CS mix quite well. And this may be the winner. I'd make a very weak 
solution of 
the DMSO using CS .  Taking DMSO and cs would also help to take that systemic. 

Good luck,

Tony Moody


On 25 May 2014 at 10:19, Ron wrote about :
Subject : CS>Bladder infections.

> Hi, I'm brand new to the list. Not totally ignorant on CS but lots to
> learn. 85 yo male in good health but since I must self catheterize I am
> plagued by bladder infections (lab test confirmed). When my temp. gets to
> 101 or so and I feel lousy I have resorted to antibiotics. Obviously one
> day they will not be effective not to mention the harm they do elsewhere.
> 
> I have started drinking 8 oz of CS (made with a SilverGen) _during the
> night_ and even administered rectally every other day for the  past 5
> days. It has kept my temp. down but the cloudy urine says that the
> infection is still there. Of course 5 days is a short time and maybe 8 oz
> is not enough??
> 
> Question:
> Would anyone have knowledge or opinion about actually injecting a pint or
> so of CS directly into the bladder?
> 
> Now that I write it it seems like - yes it is a no brain-er 
> but..
> 
> Ron
> 
> 
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RE: CS>bladder infections-Iodine tincture

[bob Larson]

tincture has denatured alcohol holding the iodine, and that's poisonous.
fine to paint it on your skin though.
sodium or potassium iodide is fine to ingest (in small amounts of course).
as i recall the iodine added to table salt is usually potassium iodide.
lugol's has water, not alcohol, and can be ingested (again in small amounts
of course) or painted on the skin.
too much iodine is indeed poisonous ... but so is too little!

> -Original Message-
> From: Clayton Family [mailto:clay...@skypoint.com]
> Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2007 1:24 PM
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> Subject: Re: CS>bladder infections-Iodine tincture
>
>
> On the iodine question, I have some tincture of iodine, but it has a
> poison sticker on it. I read in a previous post that tincture of iodine
> is sodium iodine (iodate?), and lugol's has potassium iodine, does that
> make it a poison, or is it just the iodine itself in too large a
> quantity?
>
>
> On Jul 28, 2007, at 3:47 PM, Leslie wrote:
>
> > Hi, was going back over statements as I cannot seem to get clear on
> > what I should take. Seems Iodine is to be taken off the market Aug.
> > 1st and here I am still searching what I need!?
>
>
>


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Re: CS>bladder infections

[Lee Nash]

I don't think I have vaginitis, but possibly excess bacteria and I have been 
taking acidolphus. I have to apologize for posting all this as I though I 
was replying to a lady. Was quite embarrased. Thanks for the info.


Leslie
- Original Message - 
From: "Dan Nave" 

To: "CS" 
Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2007 10:17 PM
Subject: Re: CS>bladder infections


I do know that using a Zapper as described by Hulda Clark has gotten rid of 
vaginitis.


Dan

 Original Message ----
Subject: Re: CS>bladder infections
Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2007 15:47:51 -0500
From: Leslie 

Hi, was going back over statements as I cannot seem to get clear on what I 
should take. Seems Iodine is to be taken off the market Aug. 1st and here 
I am still searching what I need!? You heard that statement A day left; a 
dollar short. Anyway, bottom line is what you said about Iodine and I want 
to know what kind you took and possibly where you got it?? Also, I don't 
think mine is a urinary tract infection but have an odor I cannot get rid 
of and not having sex for a year and a half so I have to treat this some 
way. Guess it started with perhaps a yeast infection; was all red and 
burning; then I used CS all the time until it cleared up; but left with an 
odor. I have douced with CS, Hydrogen Peroxide, and soda, but was using 
the throw away applicator. Now I got a bigger bag and can't get it to work 
(story of my life), so now here I am still confused and hoping somebody 
will have some answers and you look like you are more knowledgable than 
most. So, if you can help me, I sure would appreciate it.


Thanks,

Leslie


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Re: CS>bladder infections

[Dan Nave]

I do know that using a Zapper as described by Hulda Clark 
has gotten rid of vaginitis.


Dan

 Original Message 
Subject: Re: CS>bladder infections
Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2007 15:47:51 -0500
From: Leslie 

Hi, was going back over statements as I cannot seem to get 
clear on what I should take. Seems Iodine is to be taken off 
the market Aug. 1st and here I am still searching what I 
need!? You heard that statement A day left; a dollar short. 
Anyway, bottom line is what you said about Iodine and I want 
to know what kind you took and possibly where you got it?? 
Also, I don't think mine is a urinary tract infection but 
have an odor I cannot get rid of and not having sex for a 
year and a half so I have to treat this some way. Guess it 
started with perhaps a yeast infection; was all red and 
burning; then I used CS all the time until it cleared up; 
but left with an odor. I have douced with CS, Hydrogen 
Peroxide, and soda, but was using the throw away applicator. 
Now I got a bigger bag and can't get it to work (story of my 
life), so now here I am still confused and hoping somebody 
will have some answers and you look like you are more 
knowledgable than most. So, if you can help me, I sure would 
appreciate it.


Thanks,

Leslie


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Re: CS>bladder infections-Iodine tincture

[Clayton Family]

On the iodine question, I have some tincture of iodine, but it has a 
poison sticker on it. I read in a previous post that tincture of iodine 
is sodium iodine (iodate?), and lugol's has potassium iodine, does that 
make it a poison, or is it just the iodine itself in too large a 
quantity?



On Jul 28, 2007, at 3:47 PM, Leslie wrote:

Hi, was going back over statements as I cannot seem to get clear on 
what I should take. Seems Iodine is to be taken off the market Aug. 
1st and here I am still searching what I need!? 



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Re: CS>bladder infections

[Clayton Family]

Hi, Lesley,

I would have to ask if you have seen a dr to determine what kind of 
infection it is. There are many things that can cause those symptoms.  
If it was a yeast infection, then it is important to take probiotics. 
I'll send a more detailed reply to you off list.


Kathryn
On Jul 28, 2007, at 3:47 PM, Leslie wrote:

Hi, was going back over statements as I cannot seem to get clear on 
what I should take. Seems Iodine is to be taken off the market Aug. 
1st and here I am still searching what I need!? You heard that 
statement A day left; a dollar short. Anyway, bottom line is what you 
said about Iodine and I want to know what kind you took and possibly 
where you got it?? Also, I don't think mine is a urinary tract 
infection but have an odor I cannot get rid of and not having sex for 
a year and a half so I have to treat this some way. Guess it started 
with perhaps a yeast infection; was all red and burning; then I used 
CS all the time until it cleared up; but left with an odor. I have 
douced with CS, Hydrogen Peroxide, and soda, but was using the throw 
away applicator. Now I got a bigger bag and can't get it to work 
(story of my life), so now here I am still confused and hoping 
somebody will have some answers and you look like you are more 
knowledgable than most. So, if you can help me, I sure would 
appreciate it.

 
Thanks,
 
Leslie
- Original Message -
 From: Shirley Reed
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2007 1:44 PM
Subject: CS>bladder infections

   I read somewhere (on the computer) that iodine taken by mouth in 
water would knock out a bladder infection in a hurry.   I know from 
experience that if one has a subclinical infection involving the urine 
pathway, then a few drops of Lugol's taken by mouth will eliminate it 
in a hurry.  I say I know from experience, but having no licenses or 
degrees in medicine or related fields, some would say I am just 
guessing.  Regardless of all that, a few drops (say, 5) sure won't 
hurt us and will very likely give quick relief from any undue sense of 
urgency regarding urination.  A Google search will give lots of 
info--convincing info.   imho   Best wishes, pj



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Re: CS>bladder infections

[Leslie]

Hi, was going back over statements as I cannot seem to get clear on what I 
should take. Seems Iodine is to be taken off the market Aug. 1st and here I am 
still searching what I need!? You heard that statement A day left; a dollar 
short. Anyway, bottom line is what you said about Iodine and I want to know 
what kind you took and possibly where you got it?? Also, I don't think mine is 
a urinary tract infection but have an odor I cannot get rid of and not having 
sex for a year and a half so I have to treat this some way. Guess it started 
with perhaps a yeast infection; was all red and burning; then I used CS all the 
time until it cleared up; but left with an odor. I have douced with CS, 
Hydrogen Peroxide, and soda, but was using the throw away applicator. Now I got 
a bigger bag and can't get it to work (story of my life), so now here I am 
still confused and hoping somebody will have some answers and you look like you 
are more knowledgable than most. So, if you can help me, I sure would 
appreciate it.

Thanks,

Leslie
  - Original Message - 
  From: Shirley Reed 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2007 1:44 PM
  Subject: CS>bladder infections


 I read somewhere (on the computer) that iodine taken by mouth in water 
would knock out a bladder infection in a hurry.   I know from experience that 
if one has a subclinical infection involving the urine pathway, then a few 
drops of Lugol's taken by mouth will eliminate it in a hurry.  I say I know 
from experience, but having no licenses or degrees in medicine or related 
fields, some would say I am just guessing.  Regardless of all that, a few drops 
(say, 5) sure won't hurt us and will very likely give quick relief from any 
undue sense of urgency regarding urination.  A Google search will give lots of 
info--convincing info.   imho   Best wishes, pj 

Re: CS>bladder infections

[Clayton Family]

also someone who has an overactive thyroid, or Graves disease, etc.

On Jun 5, 2007, at 3:58 PM, sol wrote:

On the contrary, 5 drops of concentrated iodine could indeed hurt 
someone who is very allergic.

sol

Shirley Reed wrote:
 Regardless of all that, a few drops (say, 5) sure won't hurt us and 
will very likely give quick relief from any undue sense of urgency 
regarding urination.



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Re: CS>bladder infections

[sol]

On the contrary, 5 drops of concentrated iodine could indeed hurt 
someone who is very allergic.

sol

Shirley Reed wrote:
 Regardless of all that, a few drops (say, 5) sure won't hurt us and 
will very likely give quick relief from any undue sense of urgency 
regarding urination.  



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