Re: CS>arthritus

[123 456]

only if you  lived in theCarolinas and could gatherthem  wild.
The AmericanMuscdine grape has two  extra genes so it can survive  in
the very hot  ad moldy environment.
The  oil is not  availble  and the seeds are dried which changes  the
chemistry  so  you might find that this would be more  acceptable.
Also, to a  great extent the  oils we consume...grape seed being  only
one...are quite  often already going  rancid  when we buy them.
Harvesting your own grapes would be very good  if  you  can do so.
Tara

On 9/5/13, olushola camara  wrote:
> Would one get the same results by consuming the grapes?
>
> Olushola
>
>
> On Thu, Sep 5, 2013 at 7:29 AM, 123 456  wrote:
>
>> I have found that the muscadine grapeseed from
>> Naturespearlproducts.com to be the most powerful anti inflamatory
>> supplement Ive ever used.
>> it is helping a gentleman who has had three quaruple bypasses reover a
>> mostly normal life again.
>> i am happy to share my ID number to who ever wants to try it @ wholesale
>> price.
>> contact me @ tarab...@gmail.com
>> Tara
>>
>> On 9/3/13, Paul Steel  wrote:
>> > 2nd that on imrs mat
>> >
>> > Sent from my iPhone
>> >
>> > On Sep 3, 2013, at 5:37 PM, Anne Ney  wrote:
>> >
>> >> Just for pain?  I do not have that problem...use iMRS mat.
>> >>
>> >> Sent from my iPad
>> >>
>> >> On Sep 3, 2013, at 3:17 PM, RaVen  wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> From Dr Rommel Geronimo's e-store at:
>> >>> http://shop.fecsd.com/
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> On Sep 3, 2013, at 1:12 PM, Anne Ney  wrote:
>> >>>
>>  Where do you buy it?
>> 
>>  Sent from my iPad
>> 
>>  On Aug 13, 2013, at 8:10 PM, ASL  wrote:
>> 
>> > On a good day, I take Glutathione Recycler once a day. If I'm in a
>> lot
>> > of pain, 2 to 3x a day.  When my body has what it needs... sometime
>> > I
>> > can skip up to 3 to 4 days. (I'm trying to save money)
>> 
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Re: CS>arthritus

[olushola camara]

Would one get the same results by consuming the grapes?

Olushola


On Thu, Sep 5, 2013 at 7:29 AM, 123 456  wrote:

> I have found that the muscadine grapeseed from
> Naturespearlproducts.com to be the most powerful anti inflamatory
> supplement Ive ever used.
> it is helping a gentleman who has had three quaruple bypasses reover a
> mostly normal life again.
> i am happy to share my ID number to who ever wants to try it @ wholesale
> price.
> contact me @ tarab...@gmail.com
> Tara
>
> On 9/3/13, Paul Steel  wrote:
> > 2nd that on imrs mat
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> > On Sep 3, 2013, at 5:37 PM, Anne Ney  wrote:
> >
> >> Just for pain?  I do not have that problem...use iMRS mat.
> >>
> >> Sent from my iPad
> >>
> >> On Sep 3, 2013, at 3:17 PM, RaVen  wrote:
> >>
> >>> From Dr Rommel Geronimo's e-store at:
> >>> http://shop.fecsd.com/
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Sep 3, 2013, at 1:12 PM, Anne Ney  wrote:
> >>>
>  Where do you buy it?
> 
>  Sent from my iPad
> 
>  On Aug 13, 2013, at 8:10 PM, ASL  wrote:
> 
> > On a good day, I take Glutathione Recycler once a day. If I'm in a
> lot
> > of pain, 2 to 3x a day.  When my body has what it needs... sometime I
> > can skip up to 3 to 4 days. (I'm trying to save money)
> 
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Re: CS>arthritus

[ASL]

Curious, I've had severe allergic reaction to grapeseed oil  --- wondering
if I would be allergic to muscadine grapeseed?






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On Thu, Sep 5, 2013 at 5:29 AM, 123 456  wrote:

> I have found that the muscadine grapeseed from
> Naturespearlproducts.com to be the most powerful anti inflamatory
> supplement Ive ever used.
> it is helping a gentleman who has had three quaruple bypasses reover a
> mostly normal life again.
> i am happy to share my ID number to who ever wants to try it @ wholesale
> price.
> contact me @ tarab...@gmail.com
> Tara
>
> On 9/3/13, Paul Steel  wrote:
> > 2nd that on imrs mat
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> > On Sep 3, 2013, at 5:37 PM, Anne Ney  wrote:
> >
> >> Just for pain?  I do not have that problem...use iMRS mat.
> >>
> >> Sent from my iPad
> >>
> >> On Sep 3, 2013, at 3:17 PM, RaVen  wrote:
> >>
> >>> From Dr Rommel Geronimo's e-store at:
> >>> http://shop.fecsd.com/
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Sep 3, 2013, at 1:12 PM, Anne Ney  wrote:
> >>>
>  Where do you buy it?
> 
>  Sent from my iPad
> 
>  On Aug 13, 2013, at 8:10 PM, ASL  wrote:
> 
> > On a good day, I take Glutathione Recycler once a day. If I'm in a
> lot
> > of pain, 2 to 3x a day.  When my body has what it needs... sometime I
> > can skip up to 3 to 4 days. (I'm trying to save money)
> 
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Re: CS>arthritus

[123 456]

I have found that the muscadine grapeseed from
Naturespearlproducts.com to be the most powerful anti inflamatory
supplement Ive ever used.
it is helping a gentleman who has had three quaruple bypasses reover a
mostly normal life again.
i am happy to share my ID number to who ever wants to try it @ wholesale price.
contact me @ tarab...@gmail.com
Tara

On 9/3/13, Paul Steel  wrote:
> 2nd that on imrs mat
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Sep 3, 2013, at 5:37 PM, Anne Ney  wrote:
>
>> Just for pain?  I do not have that problem...use iMRS mat.
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>> On Sep 3, 2013, at 3:17 PM, RaVen  wrote:
>>
>>> From Dr Rommel Geronimo's e-store at:
>>> http://shop.fecsd.com/
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sep 3, 2013, at 1:12 PM, Anne Ney  wrote:
>>>
 Where do you buy it?

 Sent from my iPad

 On Aug 13, 2013, at 8:10 PM, ASL  wrote:

> On a good day, I take Glutathione Recycler once a day. If I'm in a lot
> of pain, 2 to 3x a day.  When my body has what it needs... sometime I
> can skip up to 3 to 4 days. (I'm trying to save money)


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Re: CS>arthritus

[Paul Steel]

2nd that on imrs mat 

Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 3, 2013, at 5:37 PM, Anne Ney  wrote:

> Just for pain?  I do not have that problem...use iMRS mat.
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
> On Sep 3, 2013, at 3:17 PM, RaVen  wrote:
> 
>> From Dr Rommel Geronimo's e-store at: 
>> http://shop.fecsd.com/
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Sep 3, 2013, at 1:12 PM, Anne Ney  wrote:
>> 
>>> Where do you buy it?
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>> 
>>> On Aug 13, 2013, at 8:10 PM, ASL  wrote:
>>> 
 On a good day, I take Glutathione Recycler once a day. If I'm in a lot of 
 pain, 2 to 3x a day.  When my body has what it needs... sometime I can 
 skip up to 3 to 4 days. (I'm trying to save money) 
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Re: CS>arthritus

[Anne Ney]

Just for pain?  I do not have that problem...use iMRS mat.

Sent from my iPad

On Sep 3, 2013, at 3:17 PM, RaVen  wrote:

> From Dr Rommel Geronimo's e-store at: 
> http://shop.fecsd.com/
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Sep 3, 2013, at 1:12 PM, Anne Ney  wrote:
> 
>> Where do you buy it?
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
>> 
>> On Aug 13, 2013, at 8:10 PM, ASL  wrote:
>> 
>>> On a good day, I take Glutathione Recycler once a day. If I'm in a lot of 
>>> pain, 2 to 3x a day.  When my body has what it needs... sometime I can skip 
>>> up to 3 to 4 days. (I'm trying to save money) 
>> 
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Re: CS>arthritus

[RaVen]

From Dr Rommel Geronimo's e-store at: 
http://shop.fecsd.com/




On Sep 3, 2013, at 1:12 PM, Anne Ney  wrote:

> Where do you buy it?
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
> On Aug 13, 2013, at 8:10 PM, ASL  wrote:
> 
>> On a good day, I take Glutathione Recycler once a day. If I'm in a lot of 
>> pain, 2 to 3x a day.  When my body has what it needs... sometime I can skip 
>> up to 3 to 4 days. (I'm trying to save money) 
> 
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Re: CS>arthritus

[Anne Ney]

Where do you buy it?

Sent from my iPad

On Aug 13, 2013, at 8:10 PM, ASL  wrote:

> On a good day, I take Glutathione Recycler once a day. If I'm in a lot of 
> pain, 2 to 3x a day.  When my body has what it needs... sometime I can skip 
> up to 3 to 4 days. (I'm trying to save money) 


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Re: CS>arthritus

[ASL]

I live in Colorado and Dr Geronimo gives phone, Skype and email
consultations. Other doctors locally who follows Dr K's protocol are 3
times more expensive than Dr G's treatments. You may want to take advantage
of phone appointments. Best wishes.






Quote:
The only disability in life is a bad
attitude.
Scott Hamilton



On Thu, Aug 15, 2013 at 10:16 AM, Anne Ney  wrote:

> Wish I lived closer...am in Wis.
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Aug 15, 2013, at 10:49 AM, ASL  wrote:
>
> PS
> Ask Dr Rommel Geronimo if he can help you treat fibromyalgia--- and if the
> supplements he prescribes would help your case:
> http://fecsd.com/About_Dr.html
>
> If you choose to see him, he will make you take a lot of tests to rule
> anything out- hopefully your insurance will cover it. These tests are what
> allopathic doctors do not use/not believe in. When I showed that I had
> parasites which was another contributor to chronic fatigue/pain they
> didn't believe me. It took me 3 mos to rid the parasites and only then Dr G
> allowed me to take supplements for the inflammation. It would have been a
> waste of my money/effort to take them if the parasite were just to cancel
> it out. So glad he discovered this.
>
>
>
>

Re: CS>arthritus

[Anne Ney]

Wish I lived closer...am in Wis.

Sent from my iPad

On Aug 15, 2013, at 10:49 AM, ASL  wrote:

> PS
> Ask Dr Rommel Geronimo if he can help you treat fibromyalgia--- and if the 
> supplements he prescribes would help your case: 
> http://fecsd.com/About_Dr.html
> 
> If you choose to see him, he will make you take a lot of tests to rule 
> anything out- hopefully your insurance will cover it. These tests are what 
> allopathic doctors do not use/not believe in. When I showed that I had 
> parasites which was another contributor to chronic fatigue/pain they 
> didn't believe me. It took me 3 mos to rid the parasites and only then Dr G 
> allowed me to take supplements for the inflammation. It would have been a 
> waste of my money/effort to take them if the parasite were just to cancel it 
> out. So glad he discovered this. 
> 
> 
> 

Re: CS>arthritus

[ASL]

PS
Ask Dr Rommel Geronimo if he can help you treat fibromyalgia--- and if the
supplements he prescribes would help your case:
http://fecsd.com/About_Dr.html

If you choose to see him, he will make you take a lot of tests to rule
anything out- hopefully your insurance will cover it. These tests are what
allopathic doctors do not use/not believe in. When I showed that I had
parasites which was another contributor to chronic fatigue/pain they
didn't believe me. It took me 3 mos to rid the parasites and only then Dr G
allowed me to take supplements for the inflammation. It would have been a
waste of my money/effort to take them if the parasite were just to cancel
it out. So glad he discovered this.

Re: CS>arthritus

[ASL]

Gail:
I forgot to answer your questions:
The Glutathione Recycler SM is to treat both Hashi/chronic fatigue/FMS. I
learned, after so many years of being in severe chronic pain --- that when
I became pain-free, I had so much more energy. Dr Geronimo warned me to
still take it easy because my adrenal system is still healing. But I didn't
listen to him and was acting like I could conquer the world and naturally,
relapsed into chronic fatigue. When I was pain-free, I realized the
connection of severe pain contributed severe chronic fatigue... makes sense
now since the body has been working so hard to defend and repair itself.
Thanks to Dr G, I was able to go back to work part time and be a productive
citizen again.
Some folks believe that fibromyalgia is a disguised mask from
Hypo/hyper-thyroidism. I did noticed when I was on natural compounded
porcine thyroid medicine, my pain was greatly reduced 7 years ago.  Then
about 3 years ago, the pain returned and I had to change my diet but it
seems once the inflammation passed the point --- even a strict diet didn't
help with chronic fatigue which I found out to be very low cortisol
(adrenal exhaustion). So have an ND or DC check your cortisol (saliva test)
--- it will prove throughout the day when it's too low or too high and they
can help you get it back to normal. That should then help reduce chronic
fatigue too.






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On Tue, Aug 13, 2013 at 7:39 PM, Gail Naranjo  wrote:

> Can you or anybody on the strict paleo diet give me an example of what you
> eat for breakfast, lunch, dinner, & snacks?  Do you eat meat for breakfast
> instead of the usual breakfast food.  Just trying to get an idea.  I've
> tried the Atkins and South beach programs but find after the first day I
> feel worse, much worse, very wasted.  As soon as I eat some carbs I feel
> much better.  I have CFS and don't need to feel worse.
>
> Also, on the supplement you mentioned is that just for somebody that has
> Hashimoto or is it more for the pain from the fibromyalgia?  Does it help
> with fatigue, and in your opinion would it be useful for somebody with CFS
> as I also have pain often?
>
> Gail
>
>
>  *From:* ASL 
> *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com
> *Sent:* Tuesday, August 13, 2013 5:27 PM
> *Subject:* Re: CS>arthritus
>
>  Like most people, due to having autoimmune disease (Hashimoto's) --- I
> learned I had to go on a strictly paleo diet with NO dairy and night
> shades. Every time I slip and ingest dairy, gluten or night shades I'm
> in excruciating pain in my spine and joints.  So most people who
> contributed tips - I agree with whole heartedly. It's not an easy diet/life
> style... but if it makes the pain go away--- it's worth it.
> I've noticed though that little bit of RAW goat milk is fine  guess it
> has to do with live enzymes benefiting our intestines. Sadly, In Colorado,
> it's illegal to sell raw goat milk in stores - they have this expensive
> goat "Share" program expect to pay tons of money on top of paying for a
> few gallons per month. No can do... way above my financial budget.   Dr
> Geronimo also prescribed me a supplement to keep the inflammation down
> called
>  Glutathione Recycler SM
> *http://shop.fecsd.com/Glutathion-Recycler-SM-30-Caps-Only-K81-K81.htm*
> *
> *
> *I cannot live without this supplement -- with fibromyalgia, Hashimoto's
> disease and osteo-arthrititis... I am now able to live 97% pain free! I
> noticed I skipped 1 1/2 month with out it and I was like crippled,
> literally and I'm only 43 years old. As soon I got my supplement refill,
> within 2 days, I was back to active self. *
> *Forgive the length of this note. *
>
>
>
>
>

Re: CS>arthritus

[PT Ferrance]

You might want to try www.paleomom.com.
PT





 From: ASL 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2013 11:34 AM
Subject: Re: CS>arthritus
 


I've been searching for the cool Paleo website but I forgot to save it in my 
folder, unfortunately, and my friend forgot too. Being a visual person, I have 
to see photos of meals. Found one cool blog with photos of paleo meals 
---breakfast included. Enjoy: 
http://cavemanfood.blogspot.com/search/label/breakfast


If I find the other one, I will post it up later. 












Quote: 
The only disability in life is a bad attitude.
Scott Hamilton 



On Tue, Aug 13, 2013 at 7:39 PM, Gail Naranjo  wrote:

Can you or anybody on the strict paleo diet give me an example of what you eat 
for breakfast, lunch, dinner, & snacks?  Do you eat meat for breakfast instead 
of the usual breakfast food.  Just trying to get an idea.  I've tried the 
Atkins and South beach programs but find after the first day I feel worse, much 
worse, very wasted.  As soon as I eat some carbs I feel much better.  I have 
CFS and don't need to feel worse.
> 
>Also, on the supplement you mentioned is that just for somebody that has 
>Hashimoto or is it more for the pain from the fibromyalgia?  Does it help with 
>fatigue, and in your opinion would it be useful for somebody with CFS as I 
>also have pain often?
> 
>Gail
>
>
> 
>From: ASL 
>To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
>Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2013 5:27 PM
>Subject: Re: CS>arthritus
>
>
>
>Like most people, due to having autoimmune disease (Hashimoto's) --- I learned 
>I had to go on a strictly paleo diet with NO dairy and night shades. Every 
>time I slip and ingest dairy, gluten or night shades I'm in excruciating 
>pain in my spine and joints.  So most people who contributed tips - I agree 
>with whole heartedly. It's not an easy diet/life style... but if it makes the 
>pain go away--- it's worth it.  
>I've noticed though that little bit of RAW goat milk is fine  guess it has 
>to do with live enzymes benefiting our intestines. Sadly, In Colorado, it's 
>illegal to sell raw goat milk in stores - they have this expensive goat 
>"Share" program expect to pay tons of money on top of paying for a few 
>gallons per month. No can do... way above my financial budget.   Dr Geronimo 
>also prescribed me a supplement to keep the inflammation down called 
>Glutathione Recycler SM
>http://shop.fecsd.com/Glutathion-Recycler-SM-30-Caps-Only-K81-K81.htm
>
>
>
>I cannot live without this supplement -- with fibromyalgia, Hashimoto's 
>disease and osteo-arthrititis... I am now able to live 97% pain free! I 
>noticed I skipped 1 1/2 month with out it and I was like crippled, literally 
>and I'm only 43 years old. As soon I got my supplement refill, within 2 days, 
>I was back to active self. 
>Forgive the length of this note. 
>
>
>
>
>
>

Re: CS>arthritus

[ASL]

I've been searching for the cool Paleo website but I forgot to save it in
my folder, unfortunately, and my friend forgot too. Being a visual person,
I have to see photos of meals. Found one cool blog with photos of paleo
meals ---breakfast included. Enjoy:
http://cavemanfood.blogspot.com/search/label/breakfast

If I find the other one, I will post it up later.










Quote:
The only disability in life is a bad
attitude.<http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quotes/s/scotthamil104173.html>
Scott Hamilton<http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/authors/s/scott_hamilton.html>



On Tue, Aug 13, 2013 at 7:39 PM, Gail Naranjo  wrote:

> Can you or anybody on the strict paleo diet give me an example of what you
> eat for breakfast, lunch, dinner, & snacks?  Do you eat meat for breakfast
> instead of the usual breakfast food.  Just trying to get an idea.  I've
> tried the Atkins and South beach programs but find after the first day I
> feel worse, much worse, very wasted.  As soon as I eat some carbs I feel
> much better.  I have CFS and don't need to feel worse.
>
> Also, on the supplement you mentioned is that just for somebody that has
> Hashimoto or is it more for the pain from the fibromyalgia?  Does it help
> with fatigue, and in your opinion would it be useful for somebody with CFS
> as I also have pain often?
>
> Gail
>
>
>  *From:* ASL 
> *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com
> *Sent:* Tuesday, August 13, 2013 5:27 PM
> *Subject:* Re: CS>arthritus
>
>  Like most people, due to having autoimmune disease (Hashimoto's) --- I
> learned I had to go on a strictly paleo diet with NO dairy and night
> shades. Every time I slip and ingest dairy, gluten or night shades I'm
> in excruciating pain in my spine and joints.  So most people who
> contributed tips - I agree with whole heartedly. It's not an easy diet/life
> style... but if it makes the pain go away--- it's worth it.
> I've noticed though that little bit of RAW goat milk is fine  guess it
> has to do with live enzymes benefiting our intestines. Sadly, In Colorado,
> it's illegal to sell raw goat milk in stores - they have this expensive
> goat "Share" program expect to pay tons of money on top of paying for a
> few gallons per month. No can do... way above my financial budget.   Dr
> Geronimo also prescribed me a supplement to keep the inflammation down
> called
>  Glutathione Recycler SM
> *http://shop.fecsd.com/Glutathion-Recycler-SM-30-Caps-Only-K81-K81.htm*
> *
> *
> *I cannot live without this supplement -- with fibromyalgia, Hashimoto's
> disease and osteo-arthrititis... I am now able to live 97% pain free! I
> noticed I skipped 1 1/2 month with out it and I was like crippled,
> literally and I'm only 43 years old. As soon I got my supplement refill,
> within 2 days, I was back to active self. *
> *Forgive the length of this note. *
>
>
>
>
>

Re: CS>arthritus

[PT Ferrance]

Been there, done that, still have inflammation!
PT





 From: "cking...@nycap.rr.com" 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2013 7:48 PM
Subject: Re: CS>arthritus
 

Go to Amazon  & get a copy of Sears' "The Anti-Inflammation Zone:
Reversing the Silent Epidemic That's Destroying Our Health (Zone
(Regan)) " http://tinyurl.ms/yv6f 

Then go to Puritans Pride and get some super strength fish oil
capsules:
http://www.puritan.com/fish-oils-056/triple-strength-omega-3-fish-oil-1360-mg-016128

It's what I use.

            Chuck
I know a guy who's addicted to brake fluid.
He says he can stop anytime.


On 8/12/2013 10:09:36 AM, Gary Hilt (sobertogod1n...@gmail.com) wrote:
> Its me again. i have been active everyday lost 48 pounds. i have tried,
> borage oil ViteE, potassium,sveral others calium/magnesium etc. i
> stillhave this annoying achesin hips and shoulders. i have used dmso and
> caposaisin australian dream cream.
> Any other ideas ??? MSM dont set with me so im looking for any
> antiinflammatory.
> i also use cayenne internally.
> Thanks a lot! 


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Re: CS>arthritus

[cking001]

Go to Amazon  & get a copy of Sears' "The Anti-Inflammation Zone:
Reversing the Silent Epidemic That's Destroying Our Health (Zone
(Regan)) " http://tinyurl.ms/yv6f 

Then go to Puritans Pride and get some super strength fish oil
capsules:
http://www.puritan.com/fish-oils-056/triple-strength-omega-3-fish-oil-1360-mg-016128

It's what I use.

Chuck
I know a guy who's addicted to brake fluid.
He says he can stop anytime.


On 8/12/2013 10:09:36 AM, Gary Hilt (sobertogod1n...@gmail.com) wrote:
> Its me again. i have been active everyday lost 48 pounds. i have tried,
> borage oil ViteE, potassium,sveral others calium/magnesium etc. i
> stillhave this annoying achesin hips and shoulders. i have used dmso and
> caposaisin australian dream cream.
> Any other ideas ??? MSM dont set with me so im looking for any
> antiinflammatory.
> i also use cayenne internally.
> Thanks a lot! 


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Re: CS>arthritus

[Alan Jones]

Breakfast for me has been a green smoothie:
-  Garden of Life RAW Meal
-  1 cup frozen berries
-  1T fish oil
-  1T MCT oil
-  kale/spinach/etc
-  various other supplements


On Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 4:49 AM, 123 456  wrote:

> You might  want to  try a  massage rub  with wild marjoram(thymus
> mastachine)
> and hemp oil. tke the hemp internally in a smoothy or
> something..flax..pumpkin seed oil and sesame seed oils  are all good
> too. UdoErasmus has written a very definattive  book  called fats that
> heal. google the title..probably on amazon.
> Regards
> Tara
> ---
> On 8/12/13, Gary Hilt  wrote:
> > Its me again. i have been active everyday lost 48 pounds. i have tried,
> > borage oil ViteE, potassium,sveral others calium/magnesium etc. i
> stillhave
> > this annoying achesin hips and shoulders. i have used dmso and caposaisin
> > australian dream cream.
> > Any other ideas ??? MSM dont set with me so im looking for any
> > antiinflammatory.
> > i also use cayenne internally.
> > Thanks a lot!
> >
> > --
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> Lord
> > Jesus Christ.
> > Gary & Lennie
> >
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Re: CS>arthritus

[123 456]

You might  want to  try a  massage rub  with wild marjoram(thymus mastachine)
and hemp oil. tke the hemp internally in a smoothy or
something..flax..pumpkin seed oil and sesame seed oils  are all good
too. UdoErasmus has written a very definattive  book  called fats that
heal. google the title..probably on amazon.
Regards
Tara
---
On 8/12/13, Gary Hilt  wrote:
> Its me again. i have been active everyday lost 48 pounds. i have tried,
> borage oil ViteE, potassium,sveral others calium/magnesium etc. i stillhave
> this annoying achesin hips and shoulders. i have used dmso and caposaisin
> australian dream cream.
> Any other ideas ??? MSM dont set with me so im looking for any
> antiinflammatory.
> i also use cayenne internally.
> Thanks a lot!
>
> --
> Eph 1:2  Grace be to you, and peace, from God our Father, and from the Lord
> Jesus Christ.
> Gary & Lennie
>


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Re: CS>arthritus

[Monique Sauve]

Also: Practical Paleo is a great book as it lists food lists and 
provides menu plans for many different health conditions including CFS 
and RA.



On 8/13/2013 10:44 PM, Monique Sauve wrote:

Lots of great recipes  here:
http://autoimmune-paleo.com/recipes/

Lots of legal carbs: squash sweet potatoes yams fruit

I eat a carb protein (meat or fish) and veggies with good fats at each 
meal


Monique


On 8/13/2013 6:39 PM, Gail Naranjo wrote:
Can you or anybody on the strict paleo diet give me an example of 
what you eat for breakfast, lunch, dinner, & snacks? Do you eat meat 
for breakfast instead of the usual breakfast food.  Just trying to 
get an idea.  I've tried the Atkins and South beach programs but find 
after the first day I feel worse, much worse, very wasted.  As soon 
as I eat some carbs I feel much better.  I have CFS and don't need to 
feel worse.
Also, on the supplement you mentioned is that just for somebody that 
has Hashimoto or is it more for the pain from the fibromyalgia?  Does 
it help with fatigue, and in your opinion would it be useful for 
somebody with CFS as I also have pain often?

Gail

*From:* ASL 
*To:* silver-list@eskimo.com
*Sent:* Tuesday, August 13, 2013 5:27 PM
*Subject:* Re: CS>arthritus

Like most people, due to having autoimmune disease (Hashimoto's) --- 
I learned I had to go on a strictly paleo diet with NO dairy and 
night shades. Every time I slip and ingest dairy, gluten or night 
shades I'm in excruciating pain in my spine and joints.  So most 
people who contributed tips - I agree with whole heartedly. It's not 
an easy diet/life style... but if it makes the pain go away--- it's 
worth it.
I've noticed though that little bit of RAW goat milk is fine  
guess it has to do with live enzymes benefiting our intestines. 
Sadly, In Colorado, it's illegal to sell raw goat milk in stores - 
they have this expensive goat "Share" program expect to pay tons 
of money on top of paying for a few gallons per month. No can do... 
way above my financial budget.   Dr Geronimo also prescribed me a 
supplement to keep the inflammation down called



  Glutathione Recycler SM

*http://shop.fecsd.com/Glutathion-Recycler-SM-30-Caps-Only-K81-K81.htm*
*
*
*I cannot live without this supplement -- with fibromyalgia, 
Hashimoto's disease and osteo-arthrititis... I am now able to live 
97% pain free! I noticed I skipped 1 1/2 month with out it and I was 
like crippled, literally and I'm only 43 years old. As soon I got my 
supplement refill, within 2 days, I was back to active self. *

*Forgive the length of this note. *

Re: CS>arthritus

[Monique Sauve]

Lots of great recipes  here:
http://autoimmune-paleo.com/recipes/

Lots of legal carbs: squash sweet potatoes yams fruit

I eat a carb protein (meat or fish) and veggies with good fats at each meal

Monique


On 8/13/2013 6:39 PM, Gail Naranjo wrote:
Can you or anybody on the strict paleo diet give me an example of what 
you eat for breakfast, lunch, dinner, & snacks?  Do you eat meat for 
breakfast instead of the usual breakfast food. Just trying to get an 
idea.  I've tried the Atkins and South beach programs but find after 
the first day I feel worse, much worse, very wasted.  As soon as I eat 
some carbs I feel much better.  I have CFS and don't need to feel worse.
Also, on the supplement you mentioned is that just for somebody that 
has Hashimoto or is it more for the pain from the fibromyalgia?  Does 
it help with fatigue, and in your opinion would it be useful for 
somebody with CFS as I also have pain often?

Gail

*From:* ASL 
*To:* silver-list@eskimo.com
*Sent:* Tuesday, August 13, 2013 5:27 PM
*Subject:* Re: CS>arthritus

Like most people, due to having autoimmune disease (Hashimoto's) --- I 
learned I had to go on a strictly paleo diet with NO dairy and night 
shades. Every time I slip and ingest dairy, gluten or night shades 
I'm in excruciating pain in my spine and joints.  So most people who 
contributed tips - I agree with whole heartedly. It's not an easy 
diet/life style... but if it makes the pain go away--- it's worth it.
I've noticed though that little bit of RAW goat milk is fine  
guess it has to do with live enzymes benefiting our intestines. Sadly, 
In Colorado, it's illegal to sell raw goat milk in stores - they have 
this expensive goat "Share" program expect to pay tons of money on 
top of paying for a few gallons per month. No can do... way above my 
financial budget.   Dr Geronimo also prescribed me a supplement to 
keep the inflammation down called



  Glutathione Recycler SM

*http://shop.fecsd.com/Glutathion-Recycler-SM-30-Caps-Only-K81-K81.htm*
*
*
*I cannot live without this supplement -- with fibromyalgia, 
Hashimoto's disease and osteo-arthrititis... I am now able to live 97% 
pain free! I noticed I skipped 1 1/2 month with out it and I was like 
crippled, literally and I'm only 43 years old. As soon I got my 
supplement refill, within 2 days, I was back to active self. *

*Forgive the length of this note. *

Re: CS>arthritus

[ASL]

Yes, one has 30 days and the other has 60 days worth, I guess.






Quote:
Do not judge me by my successes, judge me by how many times I fell down and
got back
up again.
*Nelson Mandela *


On Tue, Aug 13, 2013 at 7:14 PM, Anne Ney  wrote:

> I see there sre 2 different ones...the other one has more in it.
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Aug 13, 2013, at 8:10 PM, ASL  wrote:
>
> > On a good day, I take Glutathione Recycler once a day. If I'm in a lot
> of pain, 2 to 3x a day.  When my body has what it needs... sometime I can
> skip up to 3 to 4 days. (I'm trying to save money)
>
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Re: CS>arthritus

[Gail Naranjo]

Can you or anybody on the strict paleo diet give me an example of what you eat 
for breakfast, lunch, dinner, & snacks?  Do you eat meat for breakfast instead 
of the usual breakfast food.  Just trying to get an idea.  I've tried the 
Atkins and South beach programs but find after the first day I feel worse, much 
worse, very wasted.  As soon as I eat some carbs I feel much better.  I have 
CFS and don't need to feel worse.
 
Also, on the supplement you mentioned is that just for somebody that has 
Hashimoto or is it more for the pain from the fibromyalgia?  Does it help with 
fatigue, and in your opinion would it be useful for somebody with CFS as I also 
have pain often?
 
Gail



From: ASL 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2013 5:27 PM
Subject: Re: CS>arthritus



Like most people, due to having autoimmune disease (Hashimoto's) --- I learned 
I had to go on a strictly paleo diet with NO dairy and night shades. Every time 
I slip and ingest dairy, gluten or night shades I'm in excruciating pain in 
my spine and joints.  So most people who contributed tips - I agree with whole 
heartedly. It's not an easy diet/life style... but if it makes the pain go 
away--- it's worth it.  
I've noticed though that little bit of RAW goat milk is fine  guess it has 
to do with live enzymes benefiting our intestines. Sadly, In Colorado, it's 
illegal to sell raw goat milk in stores - they have this expensive goat "Share" 
program expect to pay tons of money on top of paying for a few gallons per 
month. No can do... way above my financial budget.   Dr Geronimo also 
prescribed me a supplement to keep the inflammation down called 
Glutathione Recycler SM
http://shop.fecsd.com/Glutathion-Recycler-SM-30-Caps-Only-K81-K81.htm


I cannot live without this supplement -- with fibromyalgia, Hashimoto's disease 
and osteo-arthrititis... I am now able to live 97% pain free! I noticed I 
skipped 1 1/2 month with out it and I was like crippled, literally and I'm only 
43 years old. As soon I got my supplement refill, within 2 days, I was back to 
active self. 
Forgive the length of this note. 

Re: CS>arthritus

[Anne Ney]

I see there sre 2 different ones...the other one has more in it.

Sent from my iPad

On Aug 13, 2013, at 8:10 PM, ASL  wrote:

> On a good day, I take Glutathione Recycler once a day. If I'm in a lot of 
> pain, 2 to 3x a day.  When my body has what it needs... sometime I can skip 
> up to 3 to 4 days. (I'm trying to save money) 


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Re: CS>arthritus

[ASL]

On a good day, I take Glutathione Recycler once a day. If I'm in a lot of
pain, 2 to 3x a day.  When my body has what it needs... sometime I can skip
up to 3 to 4 days. (I'm trying to save money)

Re: CS>arthritus

[Anne Ney]

How many do you take?

Sent from my iPad

On Aug 13, 2013, at 7:27 PM, ASL  wrote:

> Like most people, due to having autoimmune disease (Hashimoto's) --- I 
> learned I had to go on a strictly paleo diet with NO dairy and night shades. 
> Every time I slip and ingest dairy, gluten or night shades I'm in 
> excruciating pain in my spine and joints.  So most people who contributed 
> tips - I agree with whole heartedly. It's not an easy diet/life style... but 
> if it makes the pain go away--- it's worth it. 
> I've noticed though that little bit of RAW goat milk is fine  guess it 
> has to do with live enzymes benefiting our intestines. Sadly, In Colorado, 
> it's illegal to sell raw goat milk in stores - they have this expensive goat 
> "Share" program expect to pay tons of money on top of paying for a few 
> gallons per month. No can do... way above my financial budget.   Dr Geronimo 
> also prescribed me a supplement to keep the inflammation down called 
> Glutathione Recycler SM
> http://shop.fecsd.com/Glutathion-Recycler-SM-30-Caps-Only-K81-K81.htm
> 
> I cannot live without this supplement -- with fibromyalgia, Hashimoto's 
> disease and osteo-arthrititis... I am now able to live 97% pain free! I 
> noticed I skipped 1 1/2 month with out it and I was like crippled, literally 
> and I'm only 43 years old. As soon I got my supplement refill, within 2 days, 
> I was back to active self. 
> Forgive the length of this note. 
> 
> 

Re: CS>arthritus

[ASL]

Like most people, due to having autoimmune disease (Hashimoto's) --- I
learned I had to go on a strictly paleo diet with NO dairy and night
shades. Every time I slip and ingest dairy, gluten or night shades I'm
in excruciating pain in my spine and joints.  So most people who
contributed tips - I agree with whole heartedly. It's not an easy diet/life
style... but if it makes the pain go away--- it's worth it.
I've noticed though that little bit of RAW goat milk is fine  guess it
has to do with live enzymes benefiting our intestines. Sadly, In Colorado,
it's illegal to sell raw goat milk in stores - they have this expensive
goat "Share" program expect to pay tons of money on top of paying for a
few gallons per month. No can do... way above my financial budget.   Dr
Geronimo also prescribed me a supplement to keep the inflammation down
called
 Glutathione Recycler SM
*http://shop.fecsd.com/Glutathion-Recycler-SM-30-Caps-Only-K81-K81.htm*
*
*
*I cannot live without this supplement -- with fibromyalgia, Hashimoto's
disease and osteo-arthrititis... I am now able to live 97% pain free! I
noticed I skipped 1 1/2 month with out it and I was like crippled,
literally and I'm only 43 years old. As soon I got my supplement refill,
within 2 days, I was back to active self. *
*Forgive the length of this note. *

Re: CS>arthritus/arthritis

[Monique Sauve]

That is what I tell people who invite me for dinner. :-)
On 8/13/2013 1:38 PM, Dan Nave wrote:

Maybe better to list the foods you *can* eat...

Dan


On Mon, Aug 12, 2013 at 9:54 AM, Nenah Sylver > wrote:


Alan wrote (snipped): I recently discovered a book called "The
Virgin Diet".  The book advocates basically a Paleo diet, but also
addresses food allergies/sensitivities. The 1st 3 weeks you
eliminate the 7 most likely candidates:  gluten, corn, soy, dairy,
eggs, peanuts and sugar.  (I actually haven't read the entire book
so I'm not an expert, but for sugar I think fruit is still OK and
small amounts in things like ketchup are still OK.) After the 3
weeks are over you have challenge weeks which re-introduce one of
these foods at a time, if you want to, that is.

I've been trying this for a week so it's still early, but have had
no arthritis pain (or any other pain; I often get random abdominal
pains) since I started.



Good suggestions, Alan. To the list of “no” foods I would add
NIGHTSHADES. They contain chemical compounds that many people
cannot neutralize, and the debris ends up in the joints and causes
pain. Nightshades include white potatoes, tomatoes, eggplant, most
pepper (bell & hot—including cayenne—though not peppercorns),
tobacco, Goji berries, belladonna, and a few other things.

Weston Price website has some great articles on nightshades,
including why sensitive people should stay away from cayenne. You
can do a search.

Best,

Nenah

Nenah Sylver, PhD

author, the NEW //Rife Handbook// (2011)

//Holistic Handbook of Sauna Therapy//(2004)

VoiceBio and Biomodulator certification

www.nenahsylver.com ;
www.rifehandbook.com 

Re: CS>arthritus

[Dan Nave]

I had to stop all coffee as it gives me arthritic pains.  I had to stop
completely (absolutely) for about 3 weeks to verify it because the pain
comes on slowly for about 3 days and then tapers off for another 3.  If you
have this problem and drink coffee only once a week, you will still have
the pain.

Not my first choice of things to quit, but it has been worth it.

Additionally, taking some Borax (boron) has also helped with this as well.

Dan


On Mon, Aug 12, 2013 at 9:09 AM, Gary Hilt wrote:

> Its me again. i have been active everyday lost 48 pounds. i have tried,
> borage oil ViteE, potassium,sveral others calium/magnesium etc. i stillhave
> this annoying achesin hips and shoulders. i have used dmso and caposaisin
> australian dream cream.
> Any other ideas ??? MSM dont set with me so im looking for any
> antiinflammatory.
> i also use cayenne internally.
> Thanks a lot!
>
> --
> Eph 1:2  Grace be to you, and peace, from God our Father, and from the
> Lord Jesus Christ.
> Gary & Lennie
>

Re: CS>arthritus/arthritis

[Dan Nave]

Maybe better to list the foods you *can* eat...

Dan


On Mon, Aug 12, 2013 at 9:54 AM, Nenah Sylver  wrote:

>  Alan wrote (snipped): I recently discovered a book called "The Virgin
> Diet".  The book advocates basically a Paleo diet, but also addresses food
> allergies/sensitivities. The 1st 3 weeks you eliminate the 7 most likely
> candidates:  gluten, corn, soy, dairy, eggs, peanuts and sugar.  (I
> actually haven't read the entire book so I'm not an expert, but for sugar I
> think fruit is still OK and small amounts in things like ketchup are still
> OK.) After the 3 weeks are over you have challenge weeks which re-introduce
> one of these foods at a time, if you want to, that is.
>
> ** **
>
> I've been trying this for a week so it's still early, but have had no
> arthritis pain (or any other pain; I often get random abdominal pains)
> since I started. 
>
> 
>
> Good suggestions, Alan. To the list of “no” foods I would add NIGHTSHADES.
> They contain chemical compounds that many people cannot neutralize, and the
> debris ends up in the joints and causes pain. Nightshades include white
> potatoes, tomatoes, eggplant, most pepper (bell & hot—including
> cayenne—though not peppercorns), tobacco, Goji berries, belladonna, and a
> few other things.
>
> ** **
>
> Weston Price website has some great articles on nightshades, including why
> sensitive people should stay away from cayenne. You can do a search.
>
> ** **
>
> Best,
>
> Nenah
>
> ** **
>
> Nenah Sylver, PhD
>
> author, the NEW *Rife Handbook* (2011)
>
> *Holistic Handbook of Sauna Therapy* (2004)
>
> VoiceBio and Biomodulator certification
>
> www.nenahsylver.com; www.rifehandbook.com 
>
> ** **
>
> ** **
>

Re: CS>arthritus -- avoid foods

[sol]

Monique Sauve wrote:
I hear you sol. Eating autoimmune paleo is so restrictive as it is. I 
find eating this way I don't need to rotate these foods. I wonder 
however if people could add in occasional cheats every 4 days and not 
be as hurt by them?  Never tried so not sure.


Probably some can, I can't. I can cheat maybe once or twice a month if I 
dose up with antihistamines beforehand, and keep antihistamine doses 
higher for a couple days after.  And if I'm already itching or hiving, 
forget it, LOL.

sol


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Re: CS>arthritus

[Monique Sauve]

Yeah I only use coconut oil, olive oil, animal fats, and sometimes butter.


On 8/12/2013 5:34 PM, sol wrote:

Monique Sauve wrote:
I can't take fish oil as it gives me hormonal issues - actually 
increased my inflammation in certain areas.


Sticking my oar in againI can't take fish oil due to 
allergy issues, but I have had a big decrease in joint pain from 
avoiding polyunsaturated fatty acids (vegetable oils like soy, canola, 
corn, and so on). I also completely stopped flax oil, and evening 
primrose oil.
All the PUFA oxidize as soon as they are ingested, even if not 
oxidized before that. Fish oils are the MOST oxidizable of PUFAS, and 
I have read of people saying fish oil helped inflammation at first, 
but over time made it worse.

sol


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Re: CS>arthritus -- avoid foods

[Monique Sauve]

I hear you sol. Eating autoimmune paleo is so restrictive as it is. I 
find eating this way I don't need to rotate these foods. I wonder 
however if people could add in occasional cheats every 4 days and not be 
as hurt by them?  Never tried so not sure.



On 8/12/2013 5:29 PM, sol wrote:

Monique Sauve wrote:
Sounds like a rotation diet. If you only eat the same food every 4 
days there is much less chance of reacting to it.


Monique
Quite right, but some of us don't have enough safe foods to do a 4 day 
rotation. Hell, I can't even do a two day rotation. I simply try not 
to eat the same foods two meals in a row, but sometimes, in order to 
avoid histamine build up in leftover meats, I can't even do that. It 
is a frustration for me.

sol


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Re: CS>arthritus

[sol]

Monique Sauve wrote:
I can't take fish oil as it gives me hormonal issues - actually 
increased my inflammation in certain areas.


Sticking my oar in againI can't take fish oil due to allergy 
issues, but I have had a big decrease in joint pain from avoiding 
polyunsaturated fatty acids (vegetable oils like soy, canola, corn, and 
so on). I also completely stopped flax oil, and evening primrose oil.
All the PUFA oxidize as soon as they are ingested, even if not oxidized 
before that. Fish oils are the MOST oxidizable of PUFAS, and I have read 
of people saying fish oil helped inflammation at first, but over time 
made it worse.

sol


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Re: CS>arthritus -- avoid foods

[sol]

Monique Sauve wrote:
Sounds like a rotation diet. If you only eat the same food every 4 
days there is much less chance of reacting to it.


Monique
Quite right, but some of us don't have enough safe foods to do a 4 day 
rotation. Hell, I can't even do a two day rotation. I simply try not to 
eat the same foods two meals in a row, but sometimes, in order to avoid 
histamine build up in leftover meats, I can't even do that. It is a 
frustration for me.

sol


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Re: CS>arthritus/arthritis

[PT Ferrance]

Thanks Nenah.  You may have explained why I cannot do cayenne.  I came back 
positive for it on an Alcat test.  But I was told I could use chili peppers.  
Does anyone know the difference between chili peppers and cayenne?
PT





 From: Nenah Sylver 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Monday, August 12, 2013 10:54 AM
Subject: RE: CS>arthritus/arthritis 
 


 
Alan wrote (snipped): I recently discovered a book called
"The Virgin Diet".  The book advocates basically a Paleo diet,
but also addresses food allergies/sensitivities. The 1st 3 weeks you eliminate
the 7 most likely candidates:  gluten, corn, soy, dairy, eggs, peanuts and
sugar.  (I actually haven't read the entire book so I'm not an expert, but
for sugar I think fruit is still OK and small amounts in things like ketchup
are still OK.) After the 3 weeks are over you have challenge weeks which
re-introduce one of these foods at a time, if you want to, that is.
 
I've been trying this for a week so it's still early, but
have had no arthritis pain (or any other pain; I often get random abdominal
pains) since I started. 

Good suggestions, Alan. To the list of “no”
foods I would add NIGHTSHADES. They contain chemical compounds that many people
cannot neutralize, and the debris ends up in the joints and causes pain.
Nightshades include white potatoes, tomatoes, eggplant, most pepper (bell &
hot—including cayenne—though not peppercorns), tobacco, Goji
berries, belladonna, and a few other things.
 
Weston Price website has some great articles on nightshades,
including why sensitive people should stay away from cayenne. You can do a
search.
 
Best,
Nenah
 
Nenah Sylver, PhD
author, the NEW Rife Handbook (2011)
Holistic Handbook of Sauna Therapy(2004)
VoiceBio and Biomodulator certification
www.nenahsylver.com; www.rifehandbook.com

Re: CS>arthritus

[Monique Sauve]

I can't take fish oil as it gives me hormonal issues - actually 
increased my inflammation in certain areas.


Monique

On 8/12/2013 3:26 PM, PT Ferrance wrote:
Hi, How much fish oil are you taking.  It is well known for helping 
with inflammation.

PT



*From:* Gary Hilt 
*To:* silver-list@eskimo.com
*Sent:* Monday, August 12, 2013 10:09 AM
*Subject:* CS>arthritus

Its me again. i have been active everyday lost 48 pounds. i have 
tried, borage oil ViteE, potassium,sveral others calium/magnesium etc. 
i stillhave this annoying achesin hips and shoulders. i have used dmso 
and caposaisin australian dream cream.
Any other ideas ??? MSM dont set with me so im looking for any 
antiinflammatory.

i also use cayenne internally.
Thanks a lot!

--
Eph 1:2  Grace be to you, and peace, from God our Father, and from the 
Lord Jesus Christ.

Gary & Lennie

Re: CS>arthritus

[PT Ferrance]

Hi, How much fish oil are you taking.  It is well known for helping with 
inflammation.
PT





 From: Gary Hilt 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Monday, August 12, 2013 10:09 AM
Subject: CS>arthritus
 


Its me again. i have been active everyday lost 48 pounds. i have tried, borage 
oil ViteE, potassium,sveral others calium/magnesium etc. i stillhave this 
annoying achesin hips and shoulders. i have used dmso and caposaisin australian 
dream cream.
Any other ideas ??? MSM dont set with me so im looking for any antiinflammatory.
i also use cayenne internally.
Thanks a lot! 
-- 

Eph 1:2  Grace be to you, and peace, from God our Father, and from the Lord 
Jesus Christ. 
Gary & Lennie

Re: CS>arthritus/arthritis

[Alan Jones]

That's a great link, thanks for sharing it.


On Mon, Aug 12, 2013 at 12:48 PM, Monique Sauve wrote:

>  The diet you describe is basically the autoimmune paleo diet. It works. I
> have rheumatoid arthritis and this diet keeps me mobile without meds.  It
> is not easy but is worth it.
>
> http://www.thepaleomom.com/autoimmunity/the-autoimmune-protocol
>
> Monique
>
>
>
> On 8/12/2013 7:54 AM, Nenah Sylver wrote:
>
>  Alan wrote (snipped): I recently discovered a book called "The Virgin
> Diet".  The book advocates basically a Paleo diet, but also addresses food
> allergies/sensitivities. The 1st 3 weeks you eliminate the 7 most likely
> candidates:  gluten, corn, soy, dairy, eggs, peanuts and sugar.  (I
> actually haven't read the entire book so I'm not an expert, but for sugar I
> think fruit is still OK and small amounts in things like ketchup are still
> OK.) After the 3 weeks are over you have challenge weeks which re-introduce
> one of these foods at a time, if you want to, that is.
>
> ** **
>
> I've been trying this for a week so it's still early, but have had no
> arthritis pain (or any other pain; I often get random abdominal pains)
> since I started. 
>
> 
>
> Good suggestions, Alan. To the list of “no” foods I would add NIGHTSHADES.
> They contain chemical compounds that many people cannot neutralize, and the
> debris ends up in the joints and causes pain. Nightshades include white
> potatoes, tomatoes, eggplant, most pepper (bell & hot—including
> cayenne—though not peppercorns), tobacco, Goji berries, belladonna, and a
> few other things.
>
> ** **
>
> Weston Price website has some great articles on nightshades, including why
> sensitive people should stay away from cayenne. You can do a search.
>
> ** **
>
> Best,
>
> Nenah
>
> ** **
>
> Nenah Sylver, PhD
>
> author, the NEW *Rife Handbook* (2011)
>
> *Holistic Handbook of Sauna Therapy* (2004)
>
> VoiceBio and Biomodulator certification
>
> www.nenahsylver.com; www.rifehandbook.com 
>
> ** **
>
> ** **
>
>
>


-- 
Alan Jones

"The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor
prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or
to the people."  (Tenth Amendment to the US Constitution)

Re: CS>arthritus -- avoid foods

[Monique Sauve]

Dairy can be very inflammatory for many. It sure is for me.  Dr. Wahls 
has MS and is out of a reclining wheelchair and biking again on the 
autoimmune paleo diet.


http://www.terrywahls.com/

Monique
On 8/12/2013 7:48 AM, sol wrote:

Judy Knowlton wrote:

Don't forget to avoid the "nightshades."
Potato, tomato, eggplant, green pepper, paprika  and cheddar cheese!
Judy Down Maine


Why cheddar cheese?
sol


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Re: CS>arthritus -- avoid foods

[Monique Sauve]

Sounds like a rotation diet. If you only eat the same food every 4 days 
there is much less chance of reacting to it.


Monique
On 8/12/2013 8:46 AM, Judy Knowlton wrote:

Yes, it's often a food we eat A LOT OF!
I found I can eat almost anything every 4th or 5th day, but not daily
JDM

___
JOY Is Lovely Liquid Light
is a quote from my biography
"Patched, A Spiritual Memoir"
Written by me, "Judy K."
Happily available on Amazon.

-Original Message-
*From:* Gary Hilt [mailto:sobertogod1n...@gmail.com]
*Sent:* Monday, August 12, 2013 11:41 AM
*To:* silver-list@eskimo.com
*Subject:* Re: CS>arthritus -- avoid foods

Ahhh i do like potatoes and tomatoes bummer. Will give it a go
Thx


On Mon, Aug 12, 2013 at 10:30 AM, Judy Knowlton 
mailto:judydownma...@roadrunner.com>> 
wrote:


Don't forget to avoid the "nightshades."
Potato, tomato, eggplant, green pepper, paprika  and cheddar
cheese!
Judy Down Maine

___
JOY Is Lovely Liquid Light
is a quote from my biography
"Patched, A Spiritual Memoir"
Written by me, "Judy K."
Happily available on Amazon.

-Original Message-
*From:* Alan Jones [mailto:alanmjo...@gmail.com
<mailto:alanmjo...@gmail.com>]
*Sent:* Monday, August 12, 2013 10:24 AM
*To:* silver-list@eskimo.com <mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com>
*Subject:* Re: CS>arthritus

I recently discovered a book called "The Virgin Diet".  Don't
worry, it's not what you think, the author's name is JJ Virgin.

The book advocates basically a Paleo diet, but also addresses food
allergies/sensitivities.

The 1st 3 weeks you eliminate the 7 most likely candidates: 
gluten, corn, soy, dairy, eggs, peanuts and sugar.  (I actually

haven't read the entire book so I'm not an expert, but for sugar I
think fruit is still OK and small amounts in things like ketchup
are still OK.)

After the 3 weeks are over you have challenge weeks which
re-introduce one of these foods at a time, if you want to, that is.

I've been trying this for a week so it's still early, but have had
no arthritis pain (or any other pain; I often get random abdominal
pains) since I started.  My arthritis was not severe, it only
occasionally gave me minor pain, but my Dad had it pretty bad and
I want to address it before it gets bad.

You absolutely cannot cheat during this 3 weeks or it's all a
waste of time.  For some reason knowing this has made it easy for
me so far, I've not even had the slightest urge to cheat.

-Alan


On Mon, Aug 12, 2013 at 9:09 AM, Gary Hilt
mailto:sobertogod1n...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Its me again. i have been active everyday lost 48 pounds. i
have tried, borage oil ViteE, potassium,sveral others
calium/magnesium etc. i stillhave this annoying achesin hips
and shoulders. i have used dmso and caposaisin australian
dream cream.
Any other ideas ??? MSM dont set with me so im looking for any
antiinflammatory.
i also use cayenne internally.
Thanks a lot!

-- 
Eph 1:2  Grace be to you, and peace, from God our Father, and

from the Lord Jesus Christ.
Gary & Lennie




-- 
Alan Jones


"The powers not delegated to the United States by the
Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to
the States respectively, or to the people."  (Tenth Amendment to
the US Constitution)




--
Eph 1:2  Grace be to you, and peace, from God our Father, and from the 
Lord Jesus Christ.

Gary & Lennie

Re: CS>arthritus/arthritis

[Monique Sauve]

The diet you describe is basically the autoimmune paleo diet. It works. 
I have rheumatoid arthritis and this diet keeps me mobile without meds.  
It is not easy but is worth it.


http://www.thepaleomom.com/autoimmunity/the-autoimmune-protocol

Monique


On 8/12/2013 7:54 AM, Nenah Sylver wrote:


Alan wrote (snipped): I recently discovered a book called "The Virgin 
Diet".  The book advocates basically a Paleo diet, but also addresses 
food allergies/sensitivities. The 1st 3 weeks you eliminate the 7 most 
likely candidates:  gluten, corn, soy, dairy, eggs, peanuts and 
sugar.  (I actually haven't read the entire book so I'm not an expert, 
but for sugar I think fruit is still OK and small amounts in things 
like ketchup are still OK.) After the 3 weeks are over you have 
challenge weeks which re-introduce one of these foods at a time, if 
you want to, that is.


I've been trying this for a week so it's still early, but have had no 
arthritis pain (or any other pain; I often get random abdominal pains) 
since I started.




Good suggestions, Alan. To the list of "no" foods I would add 
NIGHTSHADES. They contain chemical compounds that many people cannot 
neutralize, and the debris ends up in the joints and causes pain. 
Nightshades include white potatoes, tomatoes, eggplant, most pepper 
(bell & hot---including cayenne---though not peppercorns), tobacco, 
Goji berries, belladonna, and a few other things.


Weston Price website has some great articles on nightshades, including 
why sensitive people should stay away from cayenne. You can do a search.


Best,

Nenah

Nenah Sylver, PhD

author, the NEW //Rife Handbook// (2011)

//Holistic Handbook of Sauna Therapy//(2004)

VoiceBio and Biomodulator certification

www.nenahsylver.com ; www.rifehandbook.com 

Re: CS>arthritus -- avoid foods

[Deborah Gerard]

I went on a wheat free diet and feel tons better even emotionally.
 


 From: Gary Hilt 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Monday, August 12, 2013 11:40 AM
Subject: Re: CS>arthritus -- avoid foods
  


Ahhh i do like potatoes and tomatoes bummer. Will give it a go
Thx



On Mon, Aug 12, 2013 at 10:30 AM, Judy Knowlton  
wrote:

 
>Don't forget to 
avoid the "nightshades." 
>Potato, tomato, 
eggplant, green pepper, paprika  and cheddar cheese! 
>Judy Down 
Maine 
>
>___
>JOY Is Lovely Liquid Light
>is 
a quote from my biography
>"Patched, A Spiritual Memoir"
>Written by me, 
"Judy K."
>Happily available on Amazon.   
>-Original Message-
>From: Alan Jones 
[mailto:alanmjo...@gmail.com]
>Sent: Monday, August 12, 2013 10:24 
AM
>To: silver-list@eskimo.com
>Subject: Re: 
CS>arthritus
>
> 
>I recently discovered a book called "The Virgin Diet".  Don't worry, 
it's not what you think, the author's name is JJ Virgin.
>
>The book 
advocates basically a Paleo diet, but also addresses food 
allergies/sensitivities.
>
>The 1st 3 weeks you eliminate the 7 most 
likely candidates:  gluten, corn, soy, dairy, eggs, peanuts and 
sugar.  (I actually haven't read the entire book so I'm not an expert, but 
for sugar I think fruit is still OK and small amounts in things like ketchup 
are 
still OK.)
>
> 
>After the 3 weeks are over you have challenge weeks which re-introduce one 
of these foods at a time, if you want to, that is.
> 
>
>I've been trying this for a week so it's still early, but have 
had no arthritis pain (or any other pain; I often get random abdominal pains) 
since I started.  My arthritis was not severe, it only occasionally gave me 
minor pain, but my Dad had it pretty bad and I want to address it before it 
gets 
bad.
>
>You absolutely cannot cheat during this 3 weeks or it's all a 
waste of time.  For some reason knowing this has made it easy for me so 
far, I've not even had the slightest urge to cheat.
>
>-Alan
> 
>
>
>
>On Mon, Aug 12, 2013 at 9:09 AM, Gary Hilt  wrote:
>
>Its me again. i have been active everyday lost 48 pounds.  i have tried, 
>borage oil ViteE, potassium,sveral others calium/magnesium etc.  i stillhave 
>this annoying achesin hips and shoulders. i have used dmso and  caposaisin 
>australian dream cream. 
>>Any other ideas ??? MSM dont set with me so im looking for  any 
>>antiinflammatory. 
>>i also use cayenne internally. 
>>Thanks a lot! 
>>-- 
>>
>>Eph 1:2  Grace be to you, and peace, from God our Father, and from  the Lord 
>>Jesus Christ.  
>>Gary & Lennie
>
>
>-- 
>Alan Jones
>
>"The powers not delegated to the United 
States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to 
the States respectively, or to the people."  (Tenth Amendment to the US 
Constitution)  


-- 

Eph 1:2  Grace be to you, and peace, from God our Father, and from the Lord 
Jesus Christ. 
Gary & Lennie 

Re: CS>arthritus

[Kathy Tankersley]

A good place to begin is  google 'Heritage oils, Linda Sherman site'  I've 
learned lots from her.  Good luck!!
  - Original Message - 
  From: Gary Hilt 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Monday, August 12, 2013 10:41 AM
  Subject: Re: CS>arthritus


  No but will research it anything specific?



  On Mon, Aug 12, 2013 at 11:22 AM, Kathy Tankersley  
wrote:

Have you tried the essential oils?  They help me tremendously.  I have pain 
along with the back, tI put the oils on my back and it helps my hipa also...
  - Original Message - 
  From: Gary Hilt 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Monday, August 12, 2013 9:09 AM
  Subject: CS>arthritus


  Its me again. i have been active everyday lost 48 pounds. i have tried, 
borage oil ViteE, potassium,sveral others calium/magnesium etc. i stillhave 
this annoying achesin hips and shoulders. i have used dmso and caposaisin 
australian dream cream.
  Any other ideas ??? MSM dont set with me so im looking for any 
antiinflammatory.
  i also use cayenne internally.
  Thanks a lot! 


  -- 

  Eph 1:2  Grace be to you, and peace, from God our Father, and from the 
Lord Jesus Christ. 
  Gary & Lennie





  -- 

  Eph 1:2  Grace be to you, and peace, from God our Father, and from the Lord 
Jesus Christ. 
  Gary & Lennie

Re: CS>arthritus -- avoid foods

[Lena Guyot]

That's a good point! I can enjoy one dinner of lasagna without consequences, 
but left-overs for one or more days pushes my body into reaction. L
On Aug 12, 2013, at 11:46 AM, Judy Knowlton wrote:

> Yes, it's often a food we eat A LOT OF!
> I found I can eat almost anything every 4th or 5th day, but not daily
> JDM
>  
> ___
> JOY Is Lovely Liquid Light
> is a quote from my biography
> "Patched, A Spiritual Memoir"
> Written by me, "Judy K."
> Happily available on Amazon. 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Gary Hilt [mailto:sobertogod1n...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Monday, August 12, 2013 11:41 AM
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> Subject: Re: CS>arthritus -- avoid foods
> 
> Ahhh i do like potatoes and tomatoes bummer. Will give it a go
> Thx
> 
> 
> On Mon, Aug 12, 2013 at 10:30 AM, Judy Knowlton 
>  wrote:
> Don't forget to avoid the "nightshades."
> Potato, tomato, eggplant, green pepper, paprika  and cheddar cheese!
> Judy Down Maine
>  
> ___
> JOY Is Lovely Liquid Light
> is a quote from my biography
> "Patched, A Spiritual Memoir"
> Written by me, "Judy K."
> Happily available on Amazon. 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Alan Jones [mailto:alanmjo...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Monday, August 12, 2013 10:24 AM
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> Subject: Re: CS>arthritus
> 
> I recently discovered a book called "The Virgin Diet".  Don't worry, it's not 
> what you think, the author's name is JJ Virgin.
> 
> The book advocates basically a Paleo diet, but also addresses food 
> allergies/sensitivities.
> 
> The 1st 3 weeks you eliminate the 7 most likely candidates:  gluten, corn, 
> soy, dairy, eggs, peanuts and sugar.  (I actually haven't read the entire 
> book so I'm not an expert, but for sugar I think fruit is still OK and small 
> amounts in things like ketchup are still OK.)
> 
> After the 3 weeks are over you have challenge weeks which re-introduce one of 
> these foods at a time, if you want to, that is.
> 
> I've been trying this for a week so it's still early, but have had no 
> arthritis pain (or any other pain; I often get random abdominal pains) since 
> I started.  My arthritis was not severe, it only occasionally gave me minor 
> pain, but my Dad had it pretty bad and I want to address it before itgets 
> bad.
> 
> You absolutely cannot cheat during this 3 weeks or it's all a waste of time.  
> For some reason knowing this has made it easy for me so far, I've not even 
> had the slightest urge to cheat.
> 
> -Alan
> 
> 
> On Mon, Aug 12, 2013 at 9:09 AM, Gary Hilt  wrote:
> Its me again. i have been active everyday lost 48 pounds. i have tried, 
> borage oil ViteE, potassium,sveral others calium/magnesium etc. i stillhave 
> this annoying achesin hips and shoulders. i have used dmso and caposaisin 
> australian dream cream.
> Any other ideas ??? MSM dont set with me so im looking for any 
> antiinflammatory.
> i also use cayenne internally.
> Thanks a lot! 
> 
> -- 
> Eph 1:2  Grace be to you, and peace, from God our Father, and from the Lord 
> Jesus Christ. 
> Gary & Lennie
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Alan Jones
> 
> "The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor 
> prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or 
> to the people."  (Tenth Amendment to the USConstitution)
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Eph 1:2  Grace be to you, and peace, from God our Father, and from the Lord 
> Jesus Christ. 
> Gary & Lennie

Re: CS>arthritus -- avoid foods

[Lena Guyot]

Hi Jaxi,
Long ago, I read a great book on allergies that discussed nightshades and 
mentioned that a quick diagnosis is this: if you take Alka-Seltzer GOLD when 
having your pain, and it alleviates it within 20 min, it has neutralized the 
nightshade acidity that's some people are prone to.

I don't indulge much any more, but I keep as supply of A-SG on hand to offset 
my lapses in judgement. (because once in a while, a nice helping of lasagna, or 
red sauce is too hard to forego).

Be well,
Léna
On Aug 12, 2013, at 11:44 AM, Jaxi Schulz wrote:

> I gave up nightshade plants and it made a world of difference for me.  My 
> arthritis like symptoms are not as severe as some and I don't have joint 
> disfigurement.  I love tomatoes in the summer so this is a hard one for me.  
> Eggplant and peppers I can do without anyway.  Potatoes we switched to sweet 
> potatoes/yams - which are a different family and don't produce the same 
> issues.  My fingers especially calmed down right away and have stayed steady. 
>  One cheat and the next day I am in pain.
>  
> Jaxi
> 
> On Mon, Aug 12, 2013 at 10:40 AM, Gary Hilt  wrote:
> Ahhh i do like potatoes and tomatoes bummer. Will give it a go
> Thx
> 
> 
> On Mon, Aug 12, 2013 at 10:30 AM, Judy Knowlton 
>  wrote:
> Don't forget to avoid the "nightshades."
> Potato, tomato, eggplant, green pepper, paprika  and cheddar cheese!
> Judy Down Maine
>  
> ___
> JOY Is Lovely Liquid Light
> is a quote from my biography
> "Patched, A Spiritual Memoir"
> Written by me, "Judy K."
> Happily available on Amazon. 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Alan Jones [mailto:alanmjo...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Monday, August 12, 2013 10:24 AM
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> Subject: Re: CS>arthritus
> 
> I recently discovered a book called "The Virgin Diet".  Don't worry, it's not 
> what you think, the author's name is JJ Virgin.
> 
> The book advocates basically a Paleo diet, but also addresses food 
> allergies/sensitivities.
> 
> The 1st 3 weeks you eliminate the 7 most likely candidates:  gluten, corn, 
> soy, dairy, eggs, peanuts and sugar.  (I actually haven't read the entire 
> book so I'm not an expert, but for sugar I think fruit is still OK and small 
> amounts in things like ketchup are still OK.)
> 
> After the 3 weeks are over you have challenge weeks which re-introduce one of 
> these foods at a time, if you want to, that is.
> 
> I've been trying this for a week so it's still early, but have had no 
> arthritis pain (or any other pain; I often get random abdominal pains) since 
> I started.  My arthritis was not severe, it only occasionally gave me minor 
> pain, but my Dad had it pretty bad and I want to address it before it gets 
> bad.
> 
> You absolutely cannot cheat during this 3 weeks or it's all a waste of time.  
> For some reason knowing this has made it easy for me so far, I've not even 
> had the slightest urge to cheat.
> 
> -Alan
> 
> 
> On Mon, Aug 12, 2013 at 9:09 AM, Gary Hilt  wrote:
> Its me again. i have been active everyday lost 48 pounds. i have tried, 
> borage oil ViteE, potassium,sveral others calium/magnesium etc. i stillhave 
> this annoying achesin hips and shoulders. i have used dmso and caposaisin 
> australian dream cream.
> Any other ideas ??? MSM dont set with me so im looking for any 
> antiinflammatory.
> i also use cayenne internally.
> Thanks a lot! 
> 
> -- 
> Eph 1:2  Grace be to you, and peace, from God our Father, and from the Lord 
> Jesus Christ. 
> Gary & Lennie
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Alan Jones
> 
> "The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor 
> prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or 
> to the people."  (Tenth Amendment to the US Constitution)
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Eph 1:2  Grace be to you, and peace, from God our Father, and from the Lord 
> Jesus Christ. 
> Gary & Lennie
> 

RE: CS>arthritus -- avoid foods

[Judy Knowlton]

Yes, it's often a food we eat A LOT OF!
I found I can eat almost anything every 4th or 5th
day, but not daily
JDM

___
JOY Is Lovely Liquid Light
is a quote from my biography
"Patched, A Spiritual Memoir"
Written by me, "Judy K."
Happily available on Amazon.

-Original Message-
From: Gary Hilt [mailto:sobertogod1n...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, August 12, 2013 11:41 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>arthritus -- avoid foods


Ahhh i do like potatoes and tomatoes bummer. Will
give it a go
Thx



On Mon, Aug 12, 2013 at 10:30 AM, Judy Knowlton
 wrote:

  Don't forget to avoid the "nightshades."
  Potato, tomato, eggplant, green pepper, paprika
 and cheddar cheese!
  Judy Down Maine

  ___
  JOY Is Lovely Liquid Light
  is a quote from my biography
  "Patched, A Spiritual Memoir"
  Written by me, "Judy K."
  Happily available on Amazon.

  -Original Message-
  From: Alan Jones [mailto:alanmjo...@gmail.com]
  Sent: Monday, August 12, 2013 10:24 AM
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com
  Subject: Re: CS>arthritus


  I recently discovered a book called "The Virgin
Diet".  Don't worry, it's not what you think, the
author's name is JJ Virgin.


  The book advocates basically a Paleo diet, but
also addresses food allergies/sensitivities.


  The 1st 3 weeks you eliminate the 7 most likely
candidates:  gluten, corn, soy, dairy, eggs,
peanuts and sugar.  (I actually haven't read the
entire book so I'm not an expert, but for sugar I
think fruit is still OK and small amounts in
things like ketchup are still OK.)


  After the 3 weeks are over you have challenge
weeks which re-introduce one of these foods at a
time, if you want to, that is.



  I've been trying this for a week so it's still
early, but have had no arthritis pain (or any
other pain; I often get random abdominal pains)
since I started.  My arthritis was not severe, it
only occasionally gave me minor pain, but my Dad
had it pretty bad and I want to address it before
it gets bad.


  You absolutely cannot cheat during this 3 weeks
or it's all a waste of time.  For some reason
knowing this has made it easy for me so far, I've
not even had the slightest urge to cheat.


  -Alan




  On Mon, Aug 12, 2013 at 9:09 AM, Gary Hilt
 wrote:

Its me again. i have been active everyday lost
48 pounds. i have tried, borage oil ViteE,
potassium,sveral others calium/magnesium etc. i
stillhave this annoying achesin hips and
shoulders. i have used dmso and caposaisin
australian dream cream.
Any other ideas ??? MSM dont set with me so im
looking for any antiinflammatory.
i also use cayenne internally.
Thanks a lot!


--

Eph 1:2  Grace be to you, and peace, from God
our Father, and from the Lord Jesus Christ.
Gary & Lennie



  --
  Alan Jones

  "The powers not delegated to the United States
by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the
States, are reserved to the States respectively,
or to the people."  (Tenth Amendment to the US
Constitution)





--

Eph 1:2  Grace be to you, and peace, from God our
Father, and from the Lord Jesus Christ.
Gary & Lennie

Re: CS>arthritus -- avoid foods

[Jaxi Schulz]

I gave up nightshade plants and it made a world of difference for me.  My
arthritis like symptoms are not as severe as some and I don't have joint
disfigurement.  I love tomatoes in the summer so this is a hard one for
me.  Eggplant and peppers I can do without anyway.  Potatoes we switched to
sweet potatoes/yams - which are a different family and don't produce the
same issues.  My fingers especially calmed down right away and have stayed
steady.  One cheat and the next day I am in pain.

Jaxi

On Mon, Aug 12, 2013 at 10:40 AM, Gary Hilt wrote:

> Ahhh i do like potatoes and tomatoes bummer. Will give it a go
> Thx
>
>
> On Mon, Aug 12, 2013 at 10:30 AM, Judy Knowlton <
> judydownma...@roadrunner.com> wrote:
>
>> **
>> Don't forget to avoid the "nightshades."
>> Potato, tomato, eggplant, green pepper, paprika  and cheddar cheese!
>> Judy Down Maine
>>
>>
>> ___
>> JOY Is Lovely Liquid Light
>> is a quote from my biography
>> "Patched, A Spiritual Memoir"
>> Written by me, "Judy K."
>> Happily available on Amazon.
>> -Original Message-----
>> *From:* Alan Jones [mailto:alanmjo...@gmail.com]
>> *Sent:* Monday, August 12, 2013 10:24 AM
>> *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com
>> *Subject:* Re: CS>arthritus
>>
>>I recently discovered a book called "The Virgin Diet".  Don't worry,
>> it's not what you think, the author's name is JJ Virgin.
>>
>> The book advocates basically a Paleo diet, but also addresses food
>> allergies/sensitivities.
>>
>> The 1st 3 weeks you eliminate the 7 most likely candidates:  gluten,
>> corn, soy, dairy, eggs, peanuts and sugar.  (I actually haven't read the
>> entire book so I'm not an expert, but for sugar I think fruit is still OK
>> and small amounts in things like ketchup are still OK.)
>>
>> After the 3 weeks are over you have challenge weeks which re-introduce
>> one of these foods at a time, if you want to, that is.
>>
>> I've been trying this for a week so it's still early, but have had no
>> arthritis pain (or any other pain; I often get random abdominal pains)
>> since I started.  My arthritis was not severe, it only occasionally gave me
>> minor pain, but my Dad had it pretty bad and I want to address it before it
>> gets bad.
>>
>> You absolutely cannot cheat during this 3 weeks or it's all a waste of
>> time.  For some reason knowing this has made it easy for me so far, I've
>> not even had the slightest urge to cheat.
>>
>> -Alan
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Aug 12, 2013 at 9:09 AM, Gary Hilt wrote:
>>
>>>  Its me again. i have been active everyday lost 48 pounds. i have
>>> tried, borage oil ViteE, potassium,sveral others calium/magnesium etc. i
>>> stillhave this annoying achesin hips and shoulders. i have used dmso and
>>> caposaisin australian dream cream.
>>> Any other ideas ??? MSM dont set with me so im looking for any
>>> antiinflammatory.
>>> i also use cayenne internally.
>>> Thanks a lot!
>>>
>>> --
>>> Eph 1:2  Grace be to you, and peace, from God our Father, and from the
>>> Lord Jesus Christ.
>>> Gary & Lennie
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Alan Jones
>>
>> "The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor
>> prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or
>> to the people."  (Tenth Amendment to the US Constitution)
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Eph 1:2  Grace be to you, and peace, from God our Father, and from the
> Lord Jesus Christ.
> Gary & Lennie
>

Re: CS>arthritus

[Gary Hilt]

No but will research it anything specific?


On Mon, Aug 12, 2013 at 11:22 AM, Kathy Tankersley
wrote:

> **
> Have you tried the essential oils?  They help me tremendously.  I have
> pain along with the back, tI put the oils on my back and it helps my hipa
> also...
>
> - Original Message -
> *From:* Gary Hilt 
> *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com
> *Sent:* Monday, August 12, 2013 9:09 AM
> *Subject:* CS>arthritus
>
>  Its me again. i have been active everyday lost 48 pounds. i have tried,
> borage oil ViteE, potassium,sveral others calium/magnesium etc. i stillhave
> this annoying achesin hips and shoulders. i have used dmso and caposaisin
> australian dream cream.
> Any other ideas ??? MSM dont set with me so im looking for any
> antiinflammatory.
> i also use cayenne internally.
> Thanks a lot!
>
> --
> Eph 1:2  Grace be to you, and peace, from God our Father, and from the
> Lord Jesus Christ.
> Gary & Lennie
>
>


-- 
Eph 1:2  Grace be to you, and peace, from God our Father, and from the Lord
Jesus Christ.
Gary & Lennie

Re: CS>arthritus -- avoid foods

[Gary Hilt]

Ahhh i do like potatoes and tomatoes bummer. Will give it a go
Thx


On Mon, Aug 12, 2013 at 10:30 AM, Judy Knowlton <
judydownma...@roadrunner.com> wrote:

> **
> Don't forget to avoid the "nightshades."
> Potato, tomato, eggplant, green pepper, paprika  and cheddar cheese!
> Judy Down Maine
>
>
> ___
> JOY Is Lovely Liquid Light
> is a quote from my biography
> "Patched, A Spiritual Memoir"
> Written by me, "Judy K."
> Happily available on Amazon.
> -Original Message-
> *From:* Alan Jones [mailto:alanmjo...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Monday, August 12, 2013 10:24 AM
> *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com
> *Subject:* Re: CS>arthritus
>
>I recently discovered a book called "The Virgin Diet".  Don't worry,
> it's not what you think, the author's name is JJ Virgin.
>
> The book advocates basically a Paleo diet, but also addresses food
> allergies/sensitivities.
>
> The 1st 3 weeks you eliminate the 7 most likely candidates:  gluten, corn,
> soy, dairy, eggs, peanuts and sugar.  (I actually haven't read the entire
> book so I'm not an expert, but for sugar I think fruit is still OK and
> small amounts in things like ketchup are still OK.)
>
> After the 3 weeks are over you have challenge weeks which re-introduce one
> of these foods at a time, if you want to, that is.
>
> I've been trying this for a week so it's still early, but have had no
> arthritis pain (or any other pain; I often get random abdominal pains)
> since I started.  My arthritis was not severe, it only occasionally gave me
> minor pain, but my Dad had it pretty bad and I want to address it before it
> gets bad.
>
> You absolutely cannot cheat during this 3 weeks or it's all a waste of
> time.  For some reason knowing this has made it easy for me so far, I've
> not even had the slightest urge to cheat.
>
> -Alan
>
>
> On Mon, Aug 12, 2013 at 9:09 AM, Gary Hilt wrote:
>
>>  Its me again. i have been active everyday lost 48 pounds. i have tried,
>> borage oil ViteE, potassium,sveral others calium/magnesium etc. i stillhave
>> this annoying achesin hips and shoulders. i have used dmso and caposaisin
>> australian dream cream.
>> Any other ideas ??? MSM dont set with me so im looking for any
>> antiinflammatory.
>> i also use cayenne internally.
>> Thanks a lot!
>>
>> --
>> Eph 1:2  Grace be to you, and peace, from God our Father, and from the
>> Lord Jesus Christ.
>> Gary & Lennie
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Alan Jones
>
> "The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor
> prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or
> to the people."  (Tenth Amendment to the US Constitution)
>



-- 
Eph 1:2  Grace be to you, and peace, from God our Father, and from the Lord
Jesus Christ.
Gary & Lennie

Re: CS>arthritus/arthritis

[Gary Hilt]

Thanks Nenah will consider!


On Mon, Aug 12, 2013 at 10:54 AM, Nenah Sylver  wrote:

>  Alan wrote (snipped): I recently discovered a book called "The Virgin
> Diet".  The book advocates basically a Paleo diet, but also addresses food
> allergies/sensitivities. The 1st 3 weeks you eliminate the 7 most likely
> candidates:  gluten, corn, soy, dairy, eggs, peanuts and sugar.  (I
> actually haven't read the entire book so I'm not an expert, but for sugar I
> think fruit is still OK and small amounts in things like ketchup are still
> OK.) After the 3 weeks are over you have challenge weeks which re-introduce
> one of these foods at a time, if you want to, that is.
>
> ** **
>
> I've been trying this for a week so it's still early, but have had no
> arthritis pain (or any other pain; I often get random abdominal pains)
> since I started. 
>
> 
>
> Good suggestions, Alan. To the list of “no” foods I would add NIGHTSHADES.
> They contain chemical compounds that many people cannot neutralize, and the
> debris ends up in the joints and causes pain. Nightshades include white
> potatoes, tomatoes, eggplant, most pepper (bell & hot—including
> cayenne—though not peppercorns), tobacco, Goji berries, belladonna, and a
> few other things.
>
> ** **
>
> Weston Price website has some great articles on nightshades, including why
> sensitive people should stay away from cayenne. You can do a search.
>
> ** **
>
> Best,
>
> Nenah
>
> ** **
>
> Nenah Sylver, PhD
>
> author, the NEW *Rife Handbook* (2011)
>
> *Holistic Handbook of Sauna Therapy* (2004)
>
> VoiceBio and Biomodulator certification
>
> www.nenahsylver.com; www.rifehandbook.com 
>
> ** **
>
> ** **
>



-- 
Eph 1:2  Grace be to you, and peace, from God our Father, and from the Lord
Jesus Christ.
Gary & Lennie

Re: CS>arthritus

[Kathy Tankersley]

Have you tried the essential oils?  They help me tremendously.  I have pain 
along with the back, tI put the oils on my back and it helps my hipa also...
  - Original Message - 
  From: Gary Hilt 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Monday, August 12, 2013 9:09 AM
  Subject: CS>arthritus


  Its me again. i have been active everyday lost 48 pounds. i have tried, 
borage oil ViteE, potassium,sveral others calium/magnesium etc. i stillhave 
this annoying achesin hips and shoulders. i have used dmso and caposaisin 
australian dream cream.
  Any other ideas ??? MSM dont set with me so im looking for any 
antiinflammatory.
  i also use cayenne internally.
  Thanks a lot! 


  -- 

  Eph 1:2  Grace be to you, and peace, from God our Father, and from the Lord 
Jesus Christ. 
  Gary & Lennie

RE: CS>arthritus -- avoid foods

[Judy Knowlton]

Some foods are toxic to some people, other foods to other people.
There's a lot of talk now about wheat ... I still think milk products
can be a real problem to some.

The idea is  don't eat even a DROP of "whatever" for 2 weeks and ask
yourself how you feel.
Simple, cheap, personal experience counts!
JDM

___
JOY Is Lovely Liquid Light
is a quote from my biography
"Patched, A Spiritual Memoir"
Written by me, "Judy K."
Happily available on Amazon.

-Original Message-
From: sol [mailto:sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com]
Sent: Monday, August 12, 2013 10:49 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>arthritus -- avoid foods


Judy Knowlton wrote:
> Don't forget to avoid the "nightshades."
> Potato, tomato, eggplant, green pepper, paprika  and cheddar
cheese!
> Judy Down Maine
>
Why cheddar cheese?
sol


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RE: CS>arthritus/arthritis

[Nenah Sylver]

Alan wrote (snipped): I recently discovered a book called "The Virgin Diet".
The book advocates basically a Paleo diet, but also addresses food
allergies/sensitivities. The 1st 3 weeks you eliminate the 7 most likely
candidates:  gluten, corn, soy, dairy, eggs, peanuts and sugar.  (I actually
haven't read the entire book so I'm not an expert, but for sugar I think
fruit is still OK and small amounts in things like ketchup are still OK.)
After the 3 weeks are over you have challenge weeks which re-introduce one
of these foods at a time, if you want to, that is.

 

I've been trying this for a week so it's still early, but have had no
arthritis pain (or any other pain; I often get random abdominal pains) since
I started. 



Good suggestions, Alan. To the list of "no" foods I would add NIGHTSHADES.
They contain chemical compounds that many people cannot neutralize, and the
debris ends up in the joints and causes pain. Nightshades include white
potatoes, tomatoes, eggplant, most pepper (bell & hot-including
cayenne-though not peppercorns), tobacco, Goji berries, belladonna, and a
few other things.

 

Weston Price website has some great articles on nightshades, including why
sensitive people should stay away from cayenne. You can do a search.

 

Best,

Nenah

 

Nenah Sylver, PhD

author, the NEW Rife Handbook (2011)

Holistic Handbook of Sauna Therapy (2004)

VoiceBio and Biomodulator certification

  www.nenahsylver.com;
 www.rifehandbook.com 

 

 

Re: CS>arthritus -- avoid foods

[sol]

Judy Knowlton wrote:

Don't forget to avoid the "nightshades."
Potato, tomato, eggplant, green pepper, paprika  and cheddar cheese!
Judy Down Maine
 

Why cheddar cheese?
sol


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Re: CS>arthritus -- avoid foods

[dAVId]

I worked in dietetics for many years, so I know what it takes to lose
weight and keep it off.  My hat is off to you,
I saw a late night MD lecturing, and he seems to think low hormones, low
thyroid and low vitamin D, are the culprits.
david lubbock tx.

On Mon, Aug 12, 2013 at 9:30 AM, Judy Knowlton  wrote:

> **
> Don't forget to avoid the "nightshades."
> Potato, tomato, eggplant, green pepper, paprika  and cheddar cheese!
> Judy Down Maine
>
>
> ___
> JOY Is Lovely Liquid Light
> is a quote from my biography
> "Patched, A Spiritual Memoir"
> Written by me, "Judy K."
> Happily available on Amazon.
> -Original Message-
> *From:* Alan Jones [mailto:alanmjo...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Monday, August 12, 2013 10:24 AM
> *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com
> *Subject:* Re: CS>arthritus
>
>I recently discovered a book called "The Virgin Diet".  Don't worry,
> it's not what you think, the author's name is JJ Virgin.
>
> The book advocates basically a Paleo diet, but also addresses food
> allergies/sensitivities.
>
> The 1st 3 weeks you eliminate the 7 most likely candidates:  gluten, corn,
> soy, dairy, eggs, peanuts and sugar.  (I actually haven't read the entire
> book so I'm not an expert, but for sugar I think fruit is still OK and
> small amounts in things like ketchup are still OK.)
>
> After the 3 weeks are over you have challenge weeks which re-introduce one
> of these foods at a time, if you want to, that is.
>
> I've been trying this for a week so it's still early, but have had no
> arthritis pain (or any other pain; I often get random abdominal pains)
> since I started.  My arthritis was not severe, it only occasionally gave me
> minor pain, but my Dad had it pretty bad and I want to address it before it
> gets bad.
>
> You absolutely cannot cheat during this 3 weeks or it's all a waste of
> time.  For some reason knowing this has made it easy for me so far, I've
> not even had the slightest urge to cheat.
>
> -Alan
>
>
> On Mon, Aug 12, 2013 at 9:09 AM, Gary Hilt wrote:
>
>>  Its me again. i have been active everyday lost 48 pounds. i have tried,
>> borage oil ViteE, potassium,sveral others calium/magnesium etc. i stillhave
>> this annoying achesin hips and shoulders. i have used dmso and caposaisin
>> australian dream cream.
>> Any other ideas ??? MSM dont set with me so im looking for any
>> antiinflammatory.
>> i also use cayenne internally.
>> Thanks a lot!
>>
>> --
>> Eph 1:2  Grace be to you, and peace, from God our Father, and from the
>> Lord Jesus Christ.
>> Gary & Lennie
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Alan Jones
>
> "The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor
> prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or
> to the people."  (Tenth Amendment to the US Constitution)
>

RE: CS>arthritus -- avoid foods

[Judy Knowlton]

Don't forget to avoid the "nightshades."
Potato, tomato, eggplant, green pepper, paprika
 and cheddar cheese!
Judy Down Maine

___
JOY Is Lovely Liquid Light
is a quote from my biography
"Patched, A Spiritual Memoir"
Written by me, "Judy K."
Happily available on Amazon.

-Original Message-
From: Alan Jones [mailto:alanmjo...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, August 12, 2013 10:24 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>arthritus


I recently discovered a book called "The Virgin
Diet".  Don't worry, it's not what you think, the
author's name is JJ Virgin.


The book advocates basically a Paleo diet, but
also addresses food allergies/sensitivities.


The 1st 3 weeks you eliminate the 7 most likely
candidates:  gluten, corn, soy, dairy, eggs,
peanuts and sugar.  (I actually haven't read the
entire book so I'm not an expert, but for sugar I
think fruit is still OK and small amounts in
things like ketchup are still OK.)


After the 3 weeks are over you have challenge
weeks which re-introduce one of these foods at a
time, if you want to, that is.



I've been trying this for a week so it's still
early, but have had no arthritis pain (or any
other pain; I often get random abdominal pains)
since I started.  My arthritis was not severe, it
only occasionally gave me minor pain, but my Dad
had it pretty bad and I want to address it before
it gets bad.


You absolutely cannot cheat during this 3 weeks or
it's all a waste of time.  For some reason knowing
this has made it easy for me so far, I've not even
had the slightest urge to cheat.


-Alan




On Mon, Aug 12, 2013 at 9:09 AM, Gary Hilt
 wrote:

  Its me again. i have been active everyday lost
48 pounds. i have tried, borage oil ViteE,
potassium,sveral others calium/magnesium etc. i
stillhave this annoying achesin hips and
shoulders. i have used dmso and caposaisin
australian dream cream.
  Any other ideas ??? MSM dont set with me so im
looking for any antiinflammatory.
  i also use cayenne internally.
  Thanks a lot!


  --

  Eph 1:2  Grace be to you, and peace, from God
our Father, and from the Lord Jesus Christ.
  Gary & Lennie



--
Alan Jones

"The powers not delegated to the United States by
the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the
States, are reserved to the States respectively,
or to the people."  (Tenth Amendment to the US
Constitution)

Re: CS>arthritus

[Anne Ney]

Vitalzyme

Sent from my iPad

On Aug 12, 2013, at 9:09 AM, Gary Hilt  wrote:

> Its me again. i have been active everyday lost 48 pounds. i have tried, 
> borage oil ViteE, potassium,sveral others calium/magnesium etc. i stillhave 
> this annoying achesin hips and shoulders. i have used dmso and caposaisin 
> australian dream cream.
> Any other ideas ??? MSM dont set with me so im looking for any 
> antiinflammatory.
> i also use cayenne internally.
> Thanks a lot! 
> 
> -- 
> Eph 1:2  Grace be to you, and peace, from God our Father, and from the Lord 
> Jesus Christ. 
> Gary & Lennie

Re: CS>arthritus

[Alan Jones]

I recently discovered a book called "The Virgin Diet".  Don't worry, it's
not what you think, the author's name is JJ Virgin.

The book advocates basically a Paleo diet, but also addresses food
allergies/sensitivities.

The 1st 3 weeks you eliminate the 7 most likely candidates:  gluten, corn,
soy, dairy, eggs, peanuts and sugar.  (I actually haven't read the entire
book so I'm not an expert, but for sugar I think fruit is still OK and
small amounts in things like ketchup are still OK.)

After the 3 weeks are over you have challenge weeks which re-introduce one
of these foods at a time, if you want to, that is.

I've been trying this for a week so it's still early, but have had no
arthritis pain (or any other pain; I often get random abdominal pains)
since I started.  My arthritis was not severe, it only occasionally gave me
minor pain, but my Dad had it pretty bad and I want to address it before it
gets bad.

You absolutely cannot cheat during this 3 weeks or it's all a waste of
time.  For some reason knowing this has made it easy for me so far, I've
not even had the slightest urge to cheat.

-Alan


On Mon, Aug 12, 2013 at 9:09 AM, Gary Hilt wrote:

> Its me again. i have been active everyday lost 48 pounds. i have tried,
> borage oil ViteE, potassium,sveral others calium/magnesium etc. i stillhave
> this annoying achesin hips and shoulders. i have used dmso and caposaisin
> australian dream cream.
> Any other ideas ??? MSM dont set with me so im looking for any
> antiinflammatory.
> i also use cayenne internally.
> Thanks a lot!
>
> --
> Eph 1:2  Grace be to you, and peace, from God our Father, and from the
> Lord Jesus Christ.
> Gary & Lennie
>



-- 
Alan Jones

"The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor
prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or
to the people."  (Tenth Amendment to the US Constitution)

Re: CS>Arthritus Uh, it's spelled Arthritis...

[Lena Guyot]

Thanks Gary. You're very gracious. We're all in this together.
Be well,
Léna
On Jul 25, 2013, at 11:07 PM, Gary Hilt wrote:

> Well i stand corrected and appolgize considering the truth
> of your statement and based on the integrity of your occupation. i understand 
> your meaningg of our language and culture being swallowed up in the deep 
> abyss of ignorance and self will.
> Sincerely 
> gary
> 
> 
> On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 7:26 PM, Lena Guyot  wrote:
> What can I say? Before Lyme nibbled at my brain I was a book editor! (still 
> am, so this edit was a freebie.) 
> Face it: the language is getting frayed around the edges. You'd be surprised 
> how hard I work on my posts to catch my own faux pas and typos: it's a mark 
> of respect for the reader, especially when there's the possibility that 
> 'N-Acetyl carnitine' was really meant to be N-Acetyl carnosine. I've seen 
> some scary spelling errors in some groups. 
> 
> Reading less, we tend to spell phonetically these days, and heaven forfend we 
> could use google to check on the spelling of a heard but unread word 
> (something I try to do) Sometimes, this is funny, like when someone referred 
> to the 'duck vile', meaning bile ducts. Between the 'ducks' and the 'gulls' 
> we turn from health to ornithology.  The trouble is, it makes it harder for 
> us to be taken seriously by docs and others who might be trying to help us. 
> Personally, I always appreciate when someone corrects my spelling, though not 
> quite so appreciative to be called 'anal'. 
> 
> Be well,
> Léna
> On Jul 25, 2013, at 7:03 PM, Gary Hilt wrote:
> 
>> Sorry for my faux pas but it does seen a little anal. :O)
>> 
>> 
>> On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 7:01 PM, Lena Guyot  wrote:
>> The thread started here, I think. It's spelled 'arthritis'. Hate to see 
>> errors repeated over and over again, because the more they're repeated, the 
>> more they look right and then we're all stuck thinking we've been 
>> misspelling when we haven't. In one group, the doomed word was 'gull' 
>> bladder. For myself, it took me almost two years to finally get 
>> 'ophthalmologist' right. :-) Léna
>> On Jul 25, 2013, at 8:27 AM, Gary Hilt wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi to all: im back again to find some wisdom.
>>> i have 2 bad shoulders both worked on rotator etc. and both hips. i try to 
>>> walk with the aid of a rolling walker and i ride a bike.
>>> im using Capsaisin which affords some relief and i have used DMSO little 
>>> help. i also use Capsaison capsules and ginger. Any ideas for Arthritic 
>>> pain and soreness. im 65
>>> Thank You
>>> gary
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -- 
>>> Eph 1:2  Grace be to you, and peace, from God our Father, and from the Lord 
>>> Jesus Christ. 
>>> Gary & Lennie
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -- 
>> Eph 1:2  Grace be to you, and peace, from God our Father, and from the Lord 
>> Jesus Christ. 
>> Gary & Lennie
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Eph 1:2  Grace be to you, and peace, from God our Father, and from the Lord 
> Jesus Christ. 
> Gary & Lennie

Re: Fwd: Re: CS>Arthritus

[PT Ferrance]

OK, Joe.  Just so you aren't overdosing on magnesium... hard to do but it is 
possible I have read.
PT





 From: Joe Huard 
To: 
Sent: Friday, July 26, 2013 10:33 AM
Subject: Fwd: Re: CS>Arthritus
 


I sent this yesterday, but it didn't go through, so here it is without the 
attachments.

Joe



 Original Message ---- 
Subject: Re: CS>Arthritus 
Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2013 18:57:32 -0400 
From: Joe Huard  
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 

I have been drinking this magnesium bicarbonate water made with
  MoM and Club  Soda. I agree that is a large dose; 12 times too
  strong. I got this recipe from the Crock_Lakhovsky Yahoo group.
  The 3 tablespoons in a litre of Club Soda (carbonated water) is
  the CONCENTRATE. It is diluted 11:1, so if doing a 4 litre jug,
  use 1/3 litre of concentrate and add 3 and 2/3 litres water.
I attach the files from my computer on this.

Joe H.

On 25/07/2013 6:30 PM, PT Ferrance wrote:

I don't believe it is seltzer water but rather carbonated water that should 
contain nothing else.  That is also a very large dose from everything I have 
read.
>If you want more information search "afibber's cocktail".
>PT
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> From: Anne Ney 
>To: "silver-list@eskimo.com"  
>Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2013 12:00 PM
>Subject: Re: CS>Arthritus
> 
>
>
>Why selser water?
>
>Sent from my iPad
>
>On Jul 25, 2013, at 10:56 AM, dAVId  wrote:
>
>
>The best prevenative for me is using magnesium bicarbonate, wahoo, great for 
>all aches and pains.  Mix three tablespoons of milk of magnesium, plain, in 
>one liter/one quart of Selzer water, shake and leave in refrig for about 
>thirty minutes, drink about one third bottle daily.  Wally world has both for 
>a small charge.  This mix really puts a tremendous amount of magnesium into 
>the body and will strengthen muscles.  Magnesium causes muscles to relax, 
>Potassium constricts muscles, we generally get enough potassium from foods, 
>mag is hard to get as there is none in our soil since nineteen ninety, so we 
>sleep much better, no more restless leg syndrome and magnesium is a very great 
>anti pathogen.  MoM is a laxative so spread out your dosage to twice a day, 
>david lubbock tx. 
>>
>>
>>On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 7:27 AM, Gary Hilt  wrote:
>>
>>Hi to all: im back again to find some wisdom.
>>>i have 2 bad shoulders both worked on rotator etc. and both hips. i try to 
>>>walk with the aid of a rolling walker and i ride a bike.
>>>im using Capsaisin which affords some relief and i have used DMSO little 
>>>help. i also use Capsaison capsules and ginger. Any ideas for Arthritic pain 
>>>and soreness. im 65
>>>Thank Yougary
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
-- 
>>>
>>>Eph 1:2  Grace be to you, and peace, from God our Father, and from the Lord 
>>>Jesus Christ. 
>>>Gary & Lennie
>>
>
>

Fwd: Re: CS>Arthritus

[Joe Huard]

I sent this yesterday, but it didn't go through, so here it is without 
the attachments.


Joe


 Original Message 
Subject:        Re: CS>Arthritus
Date:   Thu, 25 Jul 2013 18:57:32 -0400
From:   Joe Huard 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com



I have been drinking this magnesium bicarbonate water made with MoM and 
Club  Soda. I agree that is a large dose; 12 times too strong. I got 
this recipe from the Crock_Lakhovsky Yahoo group. The 3 tablespoons in a 
litre of Club Soda (carbonated water) is the CONCENTRATE. It is diluted 
11:1, so if doing a 4 litre jug, use 1/3 litre of concentrate and add 3 
and 2/3 litres water.

I attach the files from my computer on this.

Joe H.
On 25/07/2013 6:30 PM, PT Ferrance wrote:
I don't believe it is seltzer water but rather carbonated water that 
should contain nothing else.  That is also a very large dose from 
everything I have read.

If you want more information search "afibber's cocktail".
PT



*From:* Anne Ney 
*To:* "silver-list@eskimo.com" 
*Sent:* Thursday, July 25, 2013 12:00 PM
*Subject:* Re: CS>Arthritus

Why selser water?

Sent from my iPad

On Jul 25, 2013, at 10:56 AM, dAVId <mailto:dhall...@gmail.com>> wrote:


The best prevenative for me is using magnesium bicarbonate, wahoo, 
great for all aches and pains.  Mix three tablespoons of milk of 
magnesium, plain, in one liter/one quart of Selzer water, shake and 
leave in refrig for about thirty minutes, drink about one third 
bottle daily.  Wally world has both for a small charge.  This mix 
really puts a tremendous amount of magnesium into the body and will 
strengthen muscles.  Magnesium causes muscles to relax, Potassium 
constricts muscles, we generally get enough potassium from foods, mag 
is hard to get as there is none in our soil since nineteen ninety, so 
we sleep much better, no more restless leg syndrome and magnesium is 
a very great anti pathogen.  MoM is a laxative so spread out your 
dosage to twice a day, david lubbock tx.


On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 7:27 AM, Gary Hilt <mailto:sobertogod1n...@gmail.com>> wrote:


Hi to all: im back again to find some wisdom.
i have 2 bad shoulders both worked on rotator etc. and both hips.
i try to walk with the aid of a rolling walker and i ride a bike.
im using Capsaisin which affords some relief and i have used DMSO
little help. i also use Capsaison capsules and ginger. Any ideas
for Arthritic pain and soreness. im 65
Thank You
gary


-- 
Eph 1:2  Grace be to you, and peace, from God our Father, and

from the Lord Jesus Christ.
Gary & Lennie

Re: CS>Arthritus Uh, it's spelled Arthritis...

[123 456]

Yes  probably... that did occur to me as i wrote  it...but that's how
sloppy  I've become.
I mostly  use an android keypad and sometimes the keys work and sometimes not.
Couple that with letters the size of fly dung and you've got  some
idea of what  people  are dealing with these  days with all this
rotten otherworld techno crap we are forced to deal  with that is oh
so much more  advanced.
 Advanced into what I'll let others determine.
Sorry, but sometimes it just gets too much to deal with.
Tara



On 7/25/13, bob Larson  wrote:
> isn't it "caring" not "careing" ? (from below...)
>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: 123 456 [mailto:whiteol...@gmail.com]
>> Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2013 3:58 PM
>> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
>> Subject: Re: CS>Arthritus Uh, it's spelled Arthritis...
>>
>> Anal isn't the point. Being understood correctly is.
>> Now that I have been completely taken over by a dratted android I used
>> to spell and punctuate more accuratly than I do now.
>> Worst of all I've almost stopped careing.
>>
>> Edit and correct those typos as you wish.
>> Thanks and more power and appreciation to you.
>> Tara
>>
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Re: CS>Arthritus

[123 456]

Because of the high level of alchole esters  in the wild marjorum i
have found that in that form it penetrates into the body almost
instantainiously.
anyone who has ever  used the wild  marjorum in its more complex
chemistry will conffirm this.
I have used the mag oil and writhed in pain untill the  dratted  stuff
finally is absorbed.
the natural oils are  the best by far.
T

On 7/26/13, asif nathekar  wrote:
> Agreed
>
> Magnesium Oil is considerably  cheaper to make and quicker to affect you.
>
> However remember to wash off the areas where applied as it also contains
> some sea salt.
>
> I would wash off anytime between half to one hour afterwards.
>
> Absorption happens around 20 minutes.
>
> Peace to All.
>
> Asif.
>
> From: PT Ferrance
> Sent: Friday, July 26, 2013 2:19 AM
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> Subject: Re: CS>Arthritus
>
> If you wanted to up your magnesium levels why wouldn't you use magnesium oil
> topically?  More reliable than depending on the soil the wild marjoram is
> grown in.
> PT
>
>
>
> 
> From: 123 456 
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2013 8:07 PM
> Subject: Re: CS>Arthritus
>
>
> Ahhh...
> This I understand.
> You can infuse  the wild marjorum in some hempseed/avocado oil
> (50/50) for a few hours
> or alternativly
> buy some of the wild marjorum oil and put about ten to thirty drops
> into about an ounce of the base oils.
> If you can find brazil nut oil that would be a  good additive.
> Your body basically will eat it up through your skin.
> My recipe  changes  depending upon whatever I can find at the time.
> Muscadine grapeseed oil  and seed is a huge anti-inflammatory too.
> Yes I have been known to sell it  to my local healthfood store and
> farmers market but it depends upon that years harvest.
> sometimes i will infuse lavender just for the healing too.
> Have fun.
> Tara
>
> On 7/25/13, Anne Ney  wrote:
>> Tara, how do you make it?
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>> On Jul 25, 2013, at 6:03 PM, 123 456  wrote:
>>
>>> Look into wild marjorum.
>>> it is higher in mag than any  of the others and is absorbed very
>>> quickly and blends well with the heavier bases.
>>> I have been making this up every summer for my own pains and aches.
>>> relif upon  contact.
>>> because it  is  thinner than a cream  it is absorbed  faster.
>>> keep you  system in  a ph baleced state or even a little alkaline.
>>> this should help to  deal  with the inflammation  in the tissues.
>>> Eating hempseed oil and coconut oils on a daily basis will do a lot
>>> for the pain too.
>>> all the best...
>>> let us know how you like the ideas?
>>> Tara
>>>
>>> On 7/25/13, PT Ferrance  wrote:
>>>> Thanks Heather.  The vit E oil doesn't work for me.
>>>> PT
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 
>>>> From: Heather W 
>>>> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
>>>> Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2013 2:17 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: CS>Arthritus
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for all the interest! Please feel free to e-mail me directly if
>>>> you
>>>> have any other questions.
>>>> You could send the money through PayPal. The email
>>>> is magicwysorb...@gmail.com.
>>>> Or send a check to:
>>>> Heather Wysor
>>>> 1041 E. Forest Ave
>>>> Ypsilanti, MI 48198
>>>> Www.Facebook.com/MagicWysorBalm/
>>>> PT:
>>>> Ingredients: Olive Oil, Sesame Oil, Vitamin E Oil, Coconut Oil, Coco
>>>> Butter,
>>>> Arnica Oil, Calendula Oil, Clove Oil, Beeswax, Chamomile, Mullein Leaf,
>>>> Blessed Thistle, Elder Flower, Marshmallow Root, Oregano Leaf, Thyme
>>>> Leaf,
>>>> Comfrey Root, Agrimony, Raspberry Leaf, Stinging Nettle, Plantain Leaf,
>>>> Lavender, Yarrow, Rose Hips, Alfalfa.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The herbs I purchase from Frontier. As my garden grows, I use homegrown
>>>> herbs as much as I can. The oils are mostly organic.
>>>> It can be a little heavy when you first out it on, but its not
>>>> terrible.
>>>> Since its made with natural oils, it soaks in nicely.
>>>> Raven:
>>>> It is fragrance free. The herbs and clove oil give it a slight smell to
>>>> it,
>>>> but it is very mild.
>>>> Anne:
>>>> I get the standard oils from my local food co-op. Like the Olive oil,
>>>> Sesame
>>>> oil, and Vitamin E oils. I make the Arnica and Calendula Oils. I steep
>>>> the
>>>> herb in olive oil for a month while agitating frequently. Its really
>>>> easy.
>>>> Phew! I think that answered all of the questions!
>>>
>>>
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Re: CS>Arthritus

[asif nathekar]

Agreed

Magnesium Oil is considerably  cheaper to make and quicker to affect you.

However remember to wash off the areas where applied as it also contains some 
sea salt.

I would wash off anytime between half to one hour afterwards.

Absorption happens around 20 minutes.

Peace to All.

Asif.

From: PT Ferrance 
Sent: Friday, July 26, 2013 2:19 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Subject: Re: CS>Arthritus

If you wanted to up your magnesium levels why wouldn't you use magnesium oil 
topically?  More reliable than depending on the soil the wild marjoram is grown 
in.
PT




From: 123 456 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2013 8:07 PM
Subject: Re: CS>Arthritus


Ahhh...
This I understand.
You can infuse  the wild marjorum in some hempseed/avocado oil
(50/50) for a few hours
or alternativly
buy some of the wild marjorum oil and put about ten to thirty drops
into about an ounce of the base oils.
If you can find brazil nut oil that would be a  good additive.
Your body basically will eat it up through your skin.
My recipe  changes  depending upon whatever I can find at the time.
Muscadine grapeseed oil  and seed is a huge anti-inflammatory too.
Yes I have been known to sell it  to my local healthfood store and
farmers market but it depends upon that years harvest.
sometimes i will infuse lavender just for the healing too.
Have fun.
Tara

On 7/25/13, Anne Ney  wrote:
> Tara, how do you make it?
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Jul 25, 2013, at 6:03 PM, 123 456  wrote:
>
>> Look into wild marjorum.
>> it is higher in mag than any  of the others and is absorbed very
>> quickly and blends well with the heavier bases.
>> I have been making this up every summer for my own pains and aches.
>> relif upon  contact.
>> because it  is  thinner than a cream  it is absorbed  faster.
>> keep you  system in  a ph baleced state or even a little alkaline.
>> this should help to  deal  with the inflammation  in the tissues.
>> Eating hempseed oil and coconut oils on a daily basis will do a lot
>> for the pain too.
>> all the best...
>> let us know how you like the ideas?
>> Tara
>>
>> On 7/25/13, PT Ferrance  wrote:
>>> Thanks Heather.  The vit E oil doesn't work for me.
>>> PT
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 
>>> From: Heather W 
>>> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
>>> Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2013 2:17 PM
>>> Subject: Re: CS>Arthritus
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks for all the interest! Please feel free to e-mail me directly if
>>> you
>>> have any other questions.
>>> You could send the money through PayPal. The email
>>> is magicwysorb...@gmail.com.
>>> Or send a check to:
>>> Heather Wysor
>>> 1041 E. Forest Ave
>>> Ypsilanti, MI 48198
>>> Www.Facebook.com/MagicWysorBalm/
>>> PT:
>>> Ingredients: Olive Oil, Sesame Oil, Vitamin E Oil, Coconut Oil, Coco
>>> Butter,
>>> Arnica Oil, Calendula Oil, Clove Oil, Beeswax, Chamomile, Mullein Leaf,
>>> Blessed Thistle, Elder Flower, Marshmallow Root, Oregano Leaf, Thyme
>>> Leaf,
>>> Comfrey Root, Agrimony, Raspberry Leaf, Stinging Nettle, Plantain Leaf,
>>> Lavender, Yarrow, Rose Hips, Alfalfa.
>>>
>>>
>>> The herbs I purchase from Frontier. As my garden grows, I use homegrown
>>> herbs as much as I can. The oils are mostly organic.
>>> It can be a little heavy when you first out it on, but its not terrible.
>>> Since its made with natural oils, it soaks in nicely.
>>> Raven:
>>> It is fragrance free. The herbs and clove oil give it a slight smell to
>>> it,
>>> but it is very mild.
>>> Anne:
>>> I get the standard oils from my local food co-op. Like the Olive oil,
>>> Sesame
>>> oil, and Vitamin E oils. I make the Arnica and Calendula Oils. I steep
>>> the
>>> herb in olive oil for a month while agitating frequently. Its really
>>> easy.
>>> Phew! I think that answered all of the questions!
>>
>>
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Re: CS>Arthritus Uh, it's spelled Arthritis...

[ASL]

That's too funny 'feels like spinach stuck between teeth." ---
Grins!

Re: CS>Arthritus Uh, it's spelled Arthritis...

[Gary Hilt]

Well i stand corrected and appolgize considering the truth
of your statement and based on the integrity of your occupation. i
understand your meaningg of our language and culture being swallowed up in
the deep abyss of ignorance and self will.
Sincerely
gary


On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 7:26 PM, Lena Guyot  wrote:

> What can I say? Before Lyme nibbled at my brain I was a book editor!
> (still am, so this edit was a freebie.)
> Face it: the language is getting frayed around the edges. You'd be
> surprised how hard I work on my posts to catch my own faux pas and typos:
> it's a mark of respect for the reader, especially when there's the
> possibility that 'N-Acetyl carnitine' was really meant to be N-Acetyl
> carnosine. I've seen some scary spelling errors in some groups.
>
> Reading less, we tend to spell phonetically these days, and heaven forfend
> we could use google to check on the spelling of a heard but unread word
> (something I try to do) Sometimes, this is funny, like when someone
> referred to the 'duck vile', meaning bile ducts. Between the 'ducks' and
> the 'gulls' we turn from health to ornithology.  The trouble is, it makes
> it harder for us to be taken seriously by docs and others who might be
> trying to help us. Personally, I always appreciate when someone corrects my
> spelling, though not quite so appreciative to be called 'anal'.
>
> Be well,
> Léna
> On Jul 25, 2013, at 7:03 PM, Gary Hilt wrote:
>
> Sorry for my faux pas but it does seen a little anal. :O)
>
>
> On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 7:01 PM, Lena Guyot  wrote:
>
>> The thread started here, I think. It's spelled 'arthritis'. Hate to see
>> errors repeated over and over again, because the more they're repeated, the
>> more they look right and then we're all stuck thinking we've been
>> misspelling when we haven't. In one group, the doomed word was 'gull'
>> bladder. For myself, it took me almost two years to finally get
>> 'ophthalmologist' right. :-) Léna
>> On Jul 25, 2013, at 8:27 AM, Gary Hilt wrote:
>>
>> Hi to all: im back again to find some wisdom.
>>  i have 2 bad shoulders both worked on rotator etc. and both hips. i try
>> to walk with the aid of a rolling walker and i ride a bike.
>> im using Capsaisin which affords some relief and i have used DMSO little
>> help. i also use Capsaison capsules and ginger. Any ideas for Arthritic
>> pain and soreness. im 65
>> Thank You
>> gary
>>
>>
>> --
>> Eph 1:2  Grace be to you, and peace, from God our Father, and from the
>> Lord Jesus Christ.
>> Gary & Lennie
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> Eph 1:2  Grace be to you, and peace, from God our Father, and from the
> Lord Jesus Christ.
> Gary & Lennie
>
>
>


-- 
Eph 1:2  Grace be to you, and peace, from God our Father, and from the Lord
Jesus Christ.
Gary & Lennie

Re: CS>Arthritus

[Gary Hilt]

Sorry in reference to the coconut oil. is better to take in side you.


On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 7:17 PM, 123 456  wrote:

> gary sorry but your questionwhat ingestion?
> could you ask your question in some other way
> or maybe more fully?
> T
>
> On 7/25/13, Gary Hilt  wrote:
> > Does your ingestion work better than externally? Are there any side
> > affects?
> > Thanks
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 7:03 PM, 123 456  wrote:
> >
> >> Look into wild marjorum.
> >> it is higher in mag than any  of the others and is absorbed very
> >> quickly and blends well with the heavier bases.
> >> I have been making this up every summer for my own pains and aches.
> >> relif upon  contact.
> >> because it  is  thinner than a cream  it is absorbed  faster.
> >> keep you  system in  a ph baleced state or even a little alkaline.
> >> this should help to  deal  with the inflammation  in the tissues.
> >> Eating hempseed oil and coconut oils on a daily basis will do a lot
> >> for the pain too.
> >> all the best...
> >> let us know how you like the ideas?
> >> Tara
> >>
> >> On 7/25/13, PT Ferrance  wrote:
> >> > Thanks Heather.  The vit E oil doesn't work for me.
> >> > PT
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > 
> >> >  From: Heather W 
> >> > To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> >> > Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2013 2:17 PM
> >> > Subject: Re: CS>Arthritus
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Thanks for all the interest! Please feel free to e-mail me directly if
> >> you
> >> > have any other questions.
> >> > You could send the money through PayPal. The email
> >> > is magicwysorb...@gmail.com.
> >> > Or send a check to:
> >> > Heather Wysor
> >> > 1041 E. Forest Ave
> >> > Ypsilanti, MI 48198
> >> > Www.Facebook.com/MagicWysorBalm/
> >> > PT:
> >> > Ingredients: Olive Oil, Sesame Oil, Vitamin E Oil, Coconut Oil, Coco
> >> Butter,
> >> > Arnica Oil, Calendula Oil, Clove Oil, Beeswax, Chamomile, Mullein
> Leaf,
> >> > Blessed Thistle, Elder Flower, Marshmallow Root, Oregano Leaf, Thyme
> >> Leaf,
> >> > Comfrey Root, Agrimony, Raspberry Leaf, Stinging Nettle, Plantain
> Leaf,
> >> > Lavender, Yarrow, Rose Hips, Alfalfa.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > The herbs I purchase from Frontier. As my garden grows, I use
> homegrown
> >> > herbs as much as I can. The oils are mostly organic.
> >> > It can be a little heavy when you first out it on, but its not
> >> > terrible.
> >> > Since its made with natural oils, it soaks in nicely.
> >> > Raven:
> >> > It is fragrance free. The herbs and clove oil give it a slight smell
> to
> >> it,
> >> > but it is very mild.
> >> > Anne:
> >> > I get the standard oils from my local food co-op. Like the Olive oil,
> >> Sesame
> >> > oil, and Vitamin E oils. I make the Arnica and Calendula Oils. I steep
> >> the
> >> > herb in olive oil for a month while agitating frequently. Its really
> >> easy.
> >> > Phew! I think that answered all of the questions!
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver.
> >>   Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org
> >>
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> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> > --
> > Eph 1:2  Grace be to you, and peace, from God our Father, and from the
> Lord
> > Jesus Christ.
> > Gary & Lennie
> >
>
>


-- 
Eph 1:2  Grace be to you, and peace, from God our Father, and from the Lord
Jesus Christ.
Gary & Lennie

Re: CS>Arthritus Uh, it's spelled Arthritis...

[Lena Guyot]

Hi PT,
Thanks!
Just today, I heard a very articulate Romanian guy with a pretty thick accent 
on the radio, and marveled, as I have two 'second' languages that I can sort of 
read but couldn't speak to save my life. Yes, his consonant and vowells were 
distorted, but his grammar was impressive.

We folks in the United State have benefited by other nations' schooling their 
children in English, making the job of communicating so much easier for us. 
What's disturbing is that so many of them speak our language better than we do. 
We somehow feel entitled to be second-rate and excellence isn't respected 
anymore, but is regarded as 'elite' or 'anal'. This will ultimately condemn our 
country to the laziness and mediocrity of the second-rate.

I'm dyslexic, so when my eyes are tired,  the text way too small, and I'm too 
lazy to enlarge before writing, one nano-second after I've 'sent'  I'm 
horrified to see my bloopers, uncaught. It feels like discovering spinach stuck 
in my teeth. Online, our words are our teeth and our smiles.

Be well, my friend,
Léna
 



On Jul 25, 2013, at 9:13 PM, PT Ferrance wrote:

> I'm with you on this one Lena.  I work hard to keep my text grammatically 
> correct and understandable so there won't be a dozen posts asking me what I 
> meant.  It is a sign of respect for the reader and this is a quality that is 
> failing in our society... In my humble opinion.
> PT
> 
> 
> From: Lena Guyot 
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
> Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2013 7:26 PM
> Subject: Re: CS>Arthritus Uh, it's spelled Arthritis...
> 
> What can I say? Before Lyme nibbled at my brain I was a book editor! (still 
> am, so this edit was a freebie.) 
> Face it: the language is getting frayed around the edges. You'd be surprised 
> how hard I work on my posts to catch my own faux pas and typos: it's a mark 
> of respect for the reader, especially when there's the possibility that 
> 'N-Acetyl carnitine' was really meant to be N-Acetyl carnosine. I've seen 
> some scary spelling errors in some groups. 
> 
> Reading less, we tend to spell phonetically these days, and heaven forfend we 
> could use google to check on the spelling of a heard but unread word 
> (something I try to do) Sometimes, this is funny, like when someone referred 
> to the 'duck vile', meaning bile ducts. Between the 'ducks' and the 'gulls' 
> we turn from health to ornithology.  The trouble is, it makes it harder for 
> us to be taken seriously by docs and others who might be trying to help us. 
> Personally, I always appreciate when someone corrects my spelling, though not 
> quite so appreciative to be called 'anal'. 
> 
> Be well,
> Léna
> On Jul 25, 2013, at 7:03 PM, Gary Hilt wrote:
> 
>> Sorry for my faux pas but it does seen a little anal. :O)
>> 
>> 
>> On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 7:01 PM, Lena Guyot  wrote:
>> The thread started here, I think. It's spelled 'arthritis'. Hate to see 
>> errors repeated over and over again, because the more they're repeated, the 
>> more they look right and then we're all stuck thinking we've been 
>> misspelling when we haven't. In one group, the doomed word was 'gull' 
>> bladder. For myself, it took me almost two years to finally get 
>> 'ophthalmologist' right. :-) Léna
>> On Jul 25, 2013, at 8:27 AM, Gary Hilt wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi to all: im back again to find some wisdom.
>>> i have 2 bad shoulders both worked on rotator etc. and both hips. i try to 
>>> walk with the aid of a rolling walker and i ride a bike.
>>> im using Capsaisin which affords some relief and i have used DMSO little 
>>> help. i also use Capsaison capsules and ginger. Any ideas for Arthritic 
>>> pain and soreness. im 65
>>> Thank You
>>> gary
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -- 
>>> Eph 1:2  Grace be to you, and peace, from God our Father, and from the Lord 
>>> Jesus Christ. 
>>> Gary & Lennie
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -- 
>> Eph 1:2  Grace be to you, and peace, from God our Father, and from the Lord 
>> Jesus Christ. 
>> Gary & Lennie
> 
> 
> 

Re: CS>Arthritus

[PT Ferrance]

If you wanted to up your magnesium levels why wouldn't you use magnesium oil 
topically?  More reliable than depending on the soil the wild marjoram is grown 
in.
PT




 From: 123 456 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2013 8:07 PM
Subject: Re: CS>Arthritus
 

Ahhh...
This I understand.
You can infuse  the wild marjorum in some hempseed/avocado oil
(50/50) for a few hours
or alternativly
buy some of the wild marjorum oil and put about ten to thirty drops
into about an ounce of the base oils.
If you can find brazil nut oil that would be a  good additive.
Your body basically will eat it up through your skin.
My recipe  changes  depending upon whatever I can find at the time.
Muscadine grapeseed oil  and seed is a huge anti-inflammatory too.
Yes I have been known to sell it  to my local healthfood store and
farmers market but it depends upon that years harvest.
sometimes i will infuse lavender just for the healing too.
Have fun.
Tara

On 7/25/13, Anne Ney  wrote:
> Tara, how do you make it?
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Jul 25, 2013, at 6:03 PM, 123 456  wrote:
>
>> Look into wild marjorum.
>> it is higher in mag than any  of the others and is absorbed very
>> quickly and blends well with the heavier bases.
>> I have been making this up every summer for my own pains and aches.
>> relif upon  contact.
>> because it  is  thinner than a cream  it is absorbed  faster.
>> keep you  system in  a ph baleced state or even a little alkaline.
>> this should help to  deal  with the inflammation  in the tissues.
>> Eating hempseed oil and coconut oils on a daily basis will do a lot
>> for the pain too.
>> all the best...
>> let us know how you like the ideas?
>> Tara
>>
>> On 7/25/13, PT Ferrance  wrote:
>>> Thanks Heather.  The vit E oil doesn't work for me.
>>> PT
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 
>>> From: Heather W 
>>> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
>>> Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2013 2:17 PM
>>> Subject: Re: CS>Arthritus
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks for all the interest! Please feel free to e-mail me directly if
>>> you
>>> have any other questions.
>>> You could send the money through PayPal. The email
>>> is magicwysorb...@gmail.com.
>>> Or send a check to:
>>> Heather Wysor
>>> 1041 E. Forest Ave
>>> Ypsilanti, MI 48198
>>> Www.Facebook.com/MagicWysorBalm/
>>> PT:
>>> Ingredients: Olive Oil, Sesame Oil, Vitamin E Oil, Coconut Oil, Coco
>>> Butter,
>>> Arnica Oil, Calendula Oil, Clove Oil, Beeswax, Chamomile, Mullein Leaf,
>>> Blessed Thistle, Elder Flower, Marshmallow Root, Oregano Leaf, Thyme
>>> Leaf,
>>> Comfrey Root, Agrimony, Raspberry Leaf, Stinging Nettle, Plantain Leaf,
>>> Lavender, Yarrow, Rose Hips, Alfalfa.
>>>
>>>
>>> The herbs I purchase from Frontier. As my garden grows, I use homegrown
>>> herbs as much as I can. The oils are mostly organic.
>>> It can be a little heavy when you first out it on, but its not terrible.
>>> Since its made with natural oils, it soaks in nicely.
>>> Raven:
>>> It is fragrance free. The herbs and clove oil give it a slight smell to
>>> it,
>>> but it is very mild.
>>> Anne:
>>> I get the standard oils from my local food co-op. Like the Olive oil,
>>> Sesame
>>> oil, and Vitamin E oils. I make the Arnica and Calendula Oils. I steep
>>> the
>>> herb in olive oil for a month while agitating frequently. Its really
>>> easy.
>>> Phew! I think that answered all of the questions!
>>
>>
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Re: CS>Arthritus Uh, it's spelled Arthritis...

[PT Ferrance]

I'm with you on this one Lena.  I work hard to keep my text grammatically 
correct and understandable so there won't be a dozen posts asking me what I 
meant.  It is a sign of respect for the reader and this is a quality that is 
failing in our society... In my humble opinion.
PT





 From: Lena Guyot 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2013 7:26 PM
Subject: Re: CS>Arthritus Uh, it's spelled Arthritis...
 


What can I say? Before Lyme nibbled at my brain I was a book editor! (still am, 
so this edit was a freebie.) 
Face it: the language is getting frayed around the edges. You'd be surprised 
how hard I work on my posts to catch my own faux pas and typos: it's a mark of 
respect for the reader, especially when there's the possibility that 'N-Acetyl 
carnitine' was really meant to be N-Acetyl carnosine. I've seen some scary 
spelling errors in some groups. 

Reading less, we tend to spell phonetically these days, and heaven forfend we 
could use google to check on the spelling of a heard but unread word (something 
I try to do) Sometimes, this is funny, like when someone referred to the 'duck 
vile', meaning bile ducts. Between the 'ducks' and the 'gulls' we turn from 
health to ornithology.  The trouble is, it makes it harder for us to be taken 
seriously by docs and others who might be trying to help us. Personally, I 
always appreciate when someone corrects my spelling, though not quite so 
appreciative to be called 'anal'. 


Be well,
Léna

On Jul 25, 2013, at 7:03 PM, Gary Hilt wrote:

Sorry for my faux pas but it does seen a little anal. :O)
>
>
>
>On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 7:01 PM, Lena Guyot  wrote:
>
>The thread started here, I think. It's spelled 'arthritis'. Hate to see errors 
>repeated over and over again, because the more they're repeated, the more they 
>look right and then we're all stuck thinking we've been misspelling when we 
>haven't. In one group, the doomed word was 'gull' bladder. For myself, it took 
>me almost two years to finally get 'ophthalmologist' right. :-) Léna
>>On Jul 25, 2013, at 8:27 AM, Gary Hilt wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>Hi to all: im back again to find some wisdom.
>>>i have 2 bad shoulders both worked on rotator etc. and both hips. i try to 
>>>walk with the aid of a rolling walker and i ride a bike.
>>>im using Capsaisin which affords some relief and i have used DMSO little 
>>>help. i also use Capsaison capsules and ginger. Any ideas for Arthritic pain 
>>>and soreness. im 65
>>>Thank You
>>>gary
>>>
>>>
>>>-- 
>>>
>>>Eph 1:2  Grace be to you, and peace, from God our Father, and from the Lord 
>>>Jesus Christ. 
>>>Gary & Lennie
>>
>
>
>
>-- 
>
>Eph 1:2  Grace be to you, and peace, from God our Father, and from the Lord 
>Jesus Christ. 
>Gary & Lennie

RE: CS>Arthritus Uh, it's spelled Arthritis...

[bob Larson]

isn't it "caring" not "careing" ? (from below...) 

> -Original Message-
> From: 123 456 [mailto:whiteol...@gmail.com] 
> Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2013 3:58 PM
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> Subject: Re: CS>Arthritus Uh, it's spelled Arthritis...
> 
> Anal isn't the point. Being understood correctly is.
> Now that I have been completely taken over by a dratted android I used
> to spell and punctuate more accuratly than I do now.
> Worst of all I've almost stopped careing.
> 
> Edit and correct those typos as you wish.
> Thanks and more power and appreciation to you.
> Tara
> 


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Re: CS>Arthritus Uh, it's spelled Arthritis...

[Lena Guyot]

Thanks Tara!
It's nice to know that it's appreciated by others who value communication.
Be well, my friend,
Léna

On Jul 25, 2013, at 7:57 PM, 123 456 wrote:

> Anal isn't the point. Being understood correctly is.
> Now that I have been completely taken over by a dratted android I used
> to spell and punctuate more accuratly than I do now.
> Worst of all I've almost stopped careing.
> 
> Edit and correct those typos as you wish.
> Thanks and more power and appreciation to you.
> Tara
> 
> On 7/25/13, Donna Lewis  wrote:
>> I agree 100% about the spelling.  Keep it up.  I don’t mind being called
>> anal either.  I’d rather be anal than illiterate J
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Donna
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> From: Lena Guyot [mailto:drumr...@stny.rr.com]
>> Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2013 4:26 PM
>> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
>> Subject: Re: CS>Arthritus Uh, it's spelled Arthritis...
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> What can I say? Before Lyme nibbled at my brain I was a book editor! (still
>> am, so this edit was a freebie.)
>> 
>> Face it: the language is getting frayed around the edges. You'd be
>> surprised
>> how hard I work on my posts to catch my own faux pas and typos: it's a mark
>> of respect for the reader, especially when there's the possibility that
>> 'N-Acetyl carnitine' was really meant to be N-Acetyl carnosine. I've seen
>> some scary spelling errors in some groups.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Reading less, we tend to spell phonetically these days, and heaven forfend
>> we could use google to check on the spelling of a heard but unread word
>> (something I try to do) Sometimes, this is funny, like when someone
>> referred
>> to the 'duck vile', meaning bile ducts. Between the 'ducks' and the 'gulls'
>> we turn from health to ornithology.  The trouble is, it makes it harder for
>> us to be taken seriously by docs and others who might be trying to help us.
>> Personally, I always appreciate when someone corrects my spelling, though
>> not quite so appreciative to be called 'anal'.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Be well,
>> 
>> Léna
>> 
>> On Jul 25, 2013, at 7:03 PM, Gary Hilt wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Sorry for my faux pas but it does seen a little anal. :O)
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 7:01 PM, Lena Guyot  wrote:
>> 
>> The thread started here, I think. It's spelled 'arthritis'. Hate to see
>> errors repeated over and over again, because the more they're repeated, the
>> more they look right and then we're all stuck thinking we've been
>> misspelling when we haven't. In one group, the doomed word was 'gull'
>> bladder. For myself, it took me almost two years to finally get
>> 'ophthalmologist' right. :-) Léna
>> 
>> On Jul 25, 2013, at 8:27 AM, Gary Hilt wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Hi to all: im back again to find some wisdom.
>> 
>> i have 2 bad shoulders both worked on rotator etc. and both hips. i try to
>> walk with the aid of a rolling walker and i ride a bike.
>> 
>> im using Capsaisin which affords some relief and i have used DMSO little
>> help. i also use Capsaison capsules and ginger. Any ideas for Arthritic
>> pain
>> and soreness. im 65
>> 
>> Thank You
>> 
>> gary
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> --
>> 
>> Eph 1:2  Grace be to you, and peace, from God our Father, and from the Lord
>> Jesus Christ.
>> 
>> Gary & Lennie
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> --
>> 
>> Eph 1:2  Grace be to you, and peace, from God our Father, and from the Lord
>> Jesus Christ.
>> 
>> Gary & Lennie
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
> 
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Re: CS>Arthritus

[123 456]

Ahhh...
This I understand.
You can infuse  the wild marjorum in some hempseed/avocado oil
(50/50) for a few hours
or alternativly
buy some of the wild marjorum oil and put about ten to thirty drops
into about an ounce of the base oils.
If you can find brazil nut oil that would be a  good additive.
Your body basically will eat it up through your skin.
My recipe  changes  depending upon whatever I can find at the time.
Muscadine grapeseed oil  and seed is a huge anti-inflammatory too.
Yes I have been known to sell it  to my local healthfood store and
farmers market but it depends upon that years harvest.
sometimes i will infuse lavender just for the healing too.
Have fun.
Tara

On 7/25/13, Anne Ney  wrote:
> Tara, how do you make it?
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Jul 25, 2013, at 6:03 PM, 123 456  wrote:
>
>> Look into wild marjorum.
>> it is higher in mag than any  of the others and is absorbed very
>> quickly and blends well with the heavier bases.
>> I have been making this up every summer for my own pains and aches.
>> relif upon  contact.
>> because it  is  thinner than a cream  it is absorbed  faster.
>> keep you  system in  a ph baleced state or even a little alkaline.
>> this should help to  deal  with the inflammation  in the tissues.
>> Eating hempseed oil and coconut oils on a daily basis will do a lot
>> for the pain too.
>> all the best...
>> let us know how you like the ideas?
>> Tara
>>
>> On 7/25/13, PT Ferrance  wrote:
>>> Thanks Heather.  The vit E oil doesn't work for me.
>>> PT
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 
>>> From: Heather W 
>>> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
>>> Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2013 2:17 PM
>>> Subject: Re: CS>Arthritus
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks for all the interest! Please feel free to e-mail me directly if
>>> you
>>> have any other questions.
>>> You could send the money through PayPal. The email
>>> is magicwysorb...@gmail.com.
>>> Or send a check to:
>>> Heather Wysor
>>> 1041 E. Forest Ave
>>> Ypsilanti, MI 48198
>>> Www.Facebook.com/MagicWysorBalm/
>>> PT:
>>> Ingredients: Olive Oil, Sesame Oil, Vitamin E Oil, Coconut Oil, Coco
>>> Butter,
>>> Arnica Oil, Calendula Oil, Clove Oil, Beeswax, Chamomile, Mullein Leaf,
>>> Blessed Thistle, Elder Flower, Marshmallow Root, Oregano Leaf, Thyme
>>> Leaf,
>>> Comfrey Root, Agrimony, Raspberry Leaf, Stinging Nettle, Plantain Leaf,
>>> Lavender, Yarrow, Rose Hips, Alfalfa.
>>>
>>>
>>> The herbs I purchase from Frontier. As my garden grows, I use homegrown
>>> herbs as much as I can. The oils are mostly organic.
>>> It can be a little heavy when you first out it on, but its not terrible.
>>> Since its made with natural oils, it soaks in nicely.
>>> Raven:
>>> It is fragrance free. The herbs and clove oil give it a slight smell to
>>> it,
>>> but it is very mild.
>>> Anne:
>>> I get the standard oils from my local food co-op. Like the Olive oil,
>>> Sesame
>>> oil, and Vitamin E oils. I make the Arnica and Calendula Oils. I steep
>>> the
>>> herb in olive oil for a month while agitating frequently. Its really
>>> easy.
>>> Phew! I think that answered all of the questions!
>>
>>
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Re: CS>Arthritus Uh, it's spelled Arthritis...

[123 456]

Anal isn't the point. Being understood correctly is.
Now that I have been completely taken over by a dratted android I used
to spell and punctuate more accuratly than I do now.
Worst of all I've almost stopped careing.

Edit and correct those typos as you wish.
Thanks and more power and appreciation to you.
Tara

On 7/25/13, Donna Lewis  wrote:
> I agree 100% about the spelling.  Keep it up.  I don’t mind being called
> anal either.  I’d rather be anal than illiterate J
>
>
>
> Donna
>
>
>
> From: Lena Guyot [mailto:drumr...@stny.rr.com]
> Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2013 4:26 PM
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> Subject: Re: CS>Arthritus Uh, it's spelled Arthritis...
>
>
>
> What can I say? Before Lyme nibbled at my brain I was a book editor! (still
> am, so this edit was a freebie.)
>
> Face it: the language is getting frayed around the edges. You'd be
> surprised
> how hard I work on my posts to catch my own faux pas and typos: it's a mark
> of respect for the reader, especially when there's the possibility that
> 'N-Acetyl carnitine' was really meant to be N-Acetyl carnosine. I've seen
> some scary spelling errors in some groups.
>
>
>
> Reading less, we tend to spell phonetically these days, and heaven forfend
> we could use google to check on the spelling of a heard but unread word
> (something I try to do) Sometimes, this is funny, like when someone
> referred
> to the 'duck vile', meaning bile ducts. Between the 'ducks' and the 'gulls'
> we turn from health to ornithology.  The trouble is, it makes it harder for
> us to be taken seriously by docs and others who might be trying to help us.
> Personally, I always appreciate when someone corrects my spelling, though
> not quite so appreciative to be called 'anal'.
>
>
>
> Be well,
>
> Léna
>
> On Jul 25, 2013, at 7:03 PM, Gary Hilt wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> Sorry for my faux pas but it does seen a little anal. :O)
>
>
>
> On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 7:01 PM, Lena Guyot  wrote:
>
> The thread started here, I think. It's spelled 'arthritis'. Hate to see
> errors repeated over and over again, because the more they're repeated, the
> more they look right and then we're all stuck thinking we've been
> misspelling when we haven't. In one group, the doomed word was 'gull'
> bladder. For myself, it took me almost two years to finally get
> 'ophthalmologist' right. :-) Léna
>
> On Jul 25, 2013, at 8:27 AM, Gary Hilt wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> Hi to all: im back again to find some wisdom.
>
> i have 2 bad shoulders both worked on rotator etc. and both hips. i try to
> walk with the aid of a rolling walker and i ride a bike.
>
> im using Capsaisin which affords some relief and i have used DMSO little
> help. i also use Capsaison capsules and ginger. Any ideas for Arthritic
> pain
> and soreness. im 65
>
> Thank You
>
> gary
>
>
>
>
>
> --
>
> Eph 1:2  Grace be to you, and peace, from God our Father, and from the Lord
> Jesus Christ.
>
> Gary & Lennie
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --
>
> Eph 1:2  Grace be to you, and peace, from God our Father, and from the Lord
> Jesus Christ.
>
> Gary & Lennie
>
>
>
>


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Re: CS>Arthritus

[Anne Ney]

Tara, how do you make it?

Sent from my iPad

On Jul 25, 2013, at 6:03 PM, 123 456  wrote:

> Look into wild marjorum.
> it is higher in mag than any  of the others and is absorbed very
> quickly and blends well with the heavier bases.
> I have been making this up every summer for my own pains and aches.
> relif upon  contact.
> because it  is  thinner than a cream  it is absorbed  faster.
> keep you  system in  a ph baleced state or even a little alkaline.
> this should help to  deal  with the inflammation  in the tissues.
> Eating hempseed oil and coconut oils on a daily basis will do a lot
> for the pain too.
> all the best...
> let us know how you like the ideas?
> Tara
> 
> On 7/25/13, PT Ferrance  wrote:
>> Thanks Heather.  The vit E oil doesn't work for me.
>> PT
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> From: Heather W 
>> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
>> Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2013 2:17 PM
>> Subject: Re: CS>Arthritus
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Thanks for all the interest! Please feel free to e-mail me directly if you
>> have any other questions.
>> You could send the money through PayPal. The email
>> is magicwysorb...@gmail.com.
>> Or send a check to:
>> Heather Wysor
>> 1041 E. Forest Ave
>> Ypsilanti, MI 48198
>> Www.Facebook.com/MagicWysorBalm/
>> PT:
>> Ingredients: Olive Oil, Sesame Oil, Vitamin E Oil, Coconut Oil, Coco Butter,
>> Arnica Oil, Calendula Oil, Clove Oil, Beeswax, Chamomile, Mullein Leaf,
>> Blessed Thistle, Elder Flower, Marshmallow Root, Oregano Leaf, Thyme Leaf,
>> Comfrey Root, Agrimony, Raspberry Leaf, Stinging Nettle, Plantain Leaf,
>> Lavender, Yarrow, Rose Hips, Alfalfa.
>> 
>> 
>> The herbs I purchase from Frontier. As my garden grows, I use homegrown
>> herbs as much as I can. The oils are mostly organic.
>> It can be a little heavy when you first out it on, but its not terrible.
>> Since its made with natural oils, it soaks in nicely.
>> Raven:
>> It is fragrance free. The herbs and clove oil give it a slight smell to it,
>> but it is very mild.
>> Anne:
>> I get the standard oils from my local food co-op. Like the Olive oil, Sesame
>> oil, and Vitamin E oils. I make the Arnica and Calendula Oils. I steep the
>> herb in olive oil for a month while agitating frequently. Its really easy.
>> Phew! I think that answered all of the questions!
> 
> 
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RE: CS>Arthritus Uh, it's spelled Arthritis...

[Donna Lewis]

I agree 100% about the spelling.  Keep it up.  I don’t mind being called
anal either.  I’d rather be anal than illiterate J

 

Donna

 

From: Lena Guyot [mailto:drumr...@stny.rr.com] 
Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2013 4:26 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>Arthritus Uh, it's spelled Arthritis...

 

What can I say? Before Lyme nibbled at my brain I was a book editor! (still
am, so this edit was a freebie.) 

Face it: the language is getting frayed around the edges. You'd be surprised
how hard I work on my posts to catch my own faux pas and typos: it's a mark
of respect for the reader, especially when there's the possibility that
'N-Acetyl carnitine' was really meant to be N-Acetyl carnosine. I've seen
some scary spelling errors in some groups. 

 

Reading less, we tend to spell phonetically these days, and heaven forfend
we could use google to check on the spelling of a heard but unread word
(something I try to do) Sometimes, this is funny, like when someone referred
to the 'duck vile', meaning bile ducts. Between the 'ducks' and the 'gulls'
we turn from health to ornithology.  The trouble is, it makes it harder for
us to be taken seriously by docs and others who might be trying to help us.
Personally, I always appreciate when someone corrects my spelling, though
not quite so appreciative to be called 'anal'. 

 

Be well,

Léna

On Jul 25, 2013, at 7:03 PM, Gary Hilt wrote:





Sorry for my faux pas but it does seen a little anal. :O)

 

On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 7:01 PM, Lena Guyot  wrote:

The thread started here, I think. It's spelled 'arthritis'. Hate to see
errors repeated over and over again, because the more they're repeated, the
more they look right and then we're all stuck thinking we've been
misspelling when we haven't. In one group, the doomed word was 'gull'
bladder. For myself, it took me almost two years to finally get
'ophthalmologist' right. :-) Léna

On Jul 25, 2013, at 8:27 AM, Gary Hilt wrote:





Hi to all: im back again to find some wisdom.

i have 2 bad shoulders both worked on rotator etc. and both hips. i try to
walk with the aid of a rolling walker and i ride a bike.

im using Capsaisin which affords some relief and i have used DMSO little
help. i also use Capsaison capsules and ginger. Any ideas for Arthritic pain
and soreness. im 65

Thank You

gary

 

 

-- 

Eph 1:2  Grace be to you, and peace, from God our Father, and from the Lord
Jesus Christ. 

Gary & Lennie

 





 

-- 

Eph 1:2  Grace be to you, and peace, from God our Father, and from the Lord
Jesus Christ. 

Gary & Lennie

 

Re: CS>Arthritus Uh, it's spelled Arthritis...

[Lena Guyot]

What can I say? Before Lyme nibbled at my brain I was a book editor! (still am, 
so this edit was a freebie.) 
Face it: the language is getting frayed around the edges. You'd be surprised 
how hard I work on my posts to catch my own faux pas and typos: it's a mark of 
respect for the reader, especially when there's the possibility that 'N-Acetyl 
carnitine' was really meant to be N-Acetyl carnosine. I've seen some scary 
spelling errors in some groups. 

Reading less, we tend to spell phonetically these days, and heaven forfend we 
could use google to check on the spelling of a heard but unread word (something 
I try to do) Sometimes, this is funny, like when someone referred to the 'duck 
vile', meaning bile ducts. Between the 'ducks' and the 'gulls' we turn from 
health to ornithology.  The trouble is, it makes it harder for us to be taken 
seriously by docs and others who might be trying to help us. Personally, I 
always appreciate when someone corrects my spelling, though not quite so 
appreciative to be called 'anal'. 

Be well,
Léna
On Jul 25, 2013, at 7:03 PM, Gary Hilt wrote:

> Sorry for my faux pas but it does seen a little anal. :O)
> 
> 
> On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 7:01 PM, Lena Guyot  wrote:
> The thread started here, I think. It's spelled 'arthritis'. Hate to see 
> errors repeated over and over again, because the more they're repeated, the 
> more they look right and then we're all stuck thinking we've been misspelling 
> when we haven't. In one group, the doomed word was 'gull' bladder. For 
> myself, it took me almost two years to finally get 'ophthalmologist' right. 
> :-) Léna
> On Jul 25, 2013, at 8:27 AM, Gary Hilt wrote:
> 
>> Hi to all: im back again to find some wisdom.
>> i have 2 bad shoulders both worked on rotator etc. and both hips. i try to 
>> walk with the aid of a rolling walker and i ride a bike.
>> im using Capsaisin which affords some relief and i have used DMSO little 
>> help. i also use Capsaison capsules and ginger. Any ideas for Arthritic pain 
>> and soreness. im 65
>> Thank You
>> gary
>> 
>> 
>> -- 
>> Eph 1:2  Grace be to you, and peace, from God our Father, and from the Lord 
>> Jesus Christ. 
>> Gary & Lennie
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Eph 1:2  Grace be to you, and peace, from God our Father, and from the Lord 
> Jesus Christ. 
> Gary & Lennie

Re: CS>Arthritus

[123 456]

gary sorry but your questionwhat ingestion?
could you ask your question in some other way
or maybe more fully?
T

On 7/25/13, Gary Hilt  wrote:
> Does your ingestion work better than externally? Are there any side
> affects?
> Thanks
>
>
> On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 7:03 PM, 123 456  wrote:
>
>> Look into wild marjorum.
>> it is higher in mag than any  of the others and is absorbed very
>> quickly and blends well with the heavier bases.
>> I have been making this up every summer for my own pains and aches.
>> relif upon  contact.
>> because it  is  thinner than a cream  it is absorbed  faster.
>> keep you  system in  a ph baleced state or even a little alkaline.
>> this should help to  deal  with the inflammation  in the tissues.
>> Eating hempseed oil and coconut oils on a daily basis will do a lot
>> for the pain too.
>> all the best...
>> let us know how you like the ideas?
>> Tara
>>
>> On 7/25/13, PT Ferrance  wrote:
>> > Thanks Heather.  The vit E oil doesn't work for me.
>> > PT
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > 
>> >  From: Heather W 
>> > To: silver-list@eskimo.com
>> > Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2013 2:17 PM
>> > Subject: Re: CS>Arthritus
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Thanks for all the interest! Please feel free to e-mail me directly if
>> you
>> > have any other questions.
>> > You could send the money through PayPal. The email
>> > is magicwysorb...@gmail.com.
>> > Or send a check to:
>> > Heather Wysor
>> > 1041 E. Forest Ave
>> > Ypsilanti, MI 48198
>> > Www.Facebook.com/MagicWysorBalm/
>> > PT:
>> > Ingredients: Olive Oil, Sesame Oil, Vitamin E Oil, Coconut Oil, Coco
>> Butter,
>> > Arnica Oil, Calendula Oil, Clove Oil, Beeswax, Chamomile, Mullein Leaf,
>> > Blessed Thistle, Elder Flower, Marshmallow Root, Oregano Leaf, Thyme
>> Leaf,
>> > Comfrey Root, Agrimony, Raspberry Leaf, Stinging Nettle, Plantain Leaf,
>> > Lavender, Yarrow, Rose Hips, Alfalfa.
>> >
>> >
>> > The herbs I purchase from Frontier. As my garden grows, I use homegrown
>> > herbs as much as I can. The oils are mostly organic.
>> > It can be a little heavy when you first out it on, but its not
>> > terrible.
>> > Since its made with natural oils, it soaks in nicely.
>> > Raven:
>> > It is fragrance free. The herbs and clove oil give it a slight smell to
>> it,
>> > but it is very mild.
>> > Anne:
>> > I get the standard oils from my local food co-op. Like the Olive oil,
>> Sesame
>> > oil, and Vitamin E oils. I make the Arnica and Calendula Oils. I steep
>> the
>> > herb in olive oil for a month while agitating frequently. Its really
>> easy.
>> > Phew! I think that answered all of the questions!
>>
>>
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>
>
> --
> Eph 1:2  Grace be to you, and peace, from God our Father, and from the Lord
> Jesus Christ.
> Gary & Lennie
>

Re: CS>Arthritus

[Gary Hilt]

Does your ingestion work better than externally? Are there any side affects?
Thanks


On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 7:03 PM, 123 456  wrote:

> Look into wild marjorum.
> it is higher in mag than any  of the others and is absorbed very
> quickly and blends well with the heavier bases.
> I have been making this up every summer for my own pains and aches.
> relif upon  contact.
> because it  is  thinner than a cream  it is absorbed  faster.
> keep you  system in  a ph baleced state or even a little alkaline.
> this should help to  deal  with the inflammation  in the tissues.
> Eating hempseed oil and coconut oils on a daily basis will do a lot
> for the pain too.
> all the best...
> let us know how you like the ideas?
> Tara
>
> On 7/25/13, PT Ferrance  wrote:
> > Thanks Heather.  The vit E oil doesn't work for me.
> > PT
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > 
> >  From: Heather W 
> > To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> > Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2013 2:17 PM
> > Subject: Re: CS>Arthritus
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks for all the interest! Please feel free to e-mail me directly if
> you
> > have any other questions.
> > You could send the money through PayPal. The email
> > is magicwysorb...@gmail.com.
> > Or send a check to:
> > Heather Wysor
> > 1041 E. Forest Ave
> > Ypsilanti, MI 48198
> > Www.Facebook.com/MagicWysorBalm/
> > PT:
> > Ingredients: Olive Oil, Sesame Oil, Vitamin E Oil, Coconut Oil, Coco
> Butter,
> > Arnica Oil, Calendula Oil, Clove Oil, Beeswax, Chamomile, Mullein Leaf,
> > Blessed Thistle, Elder Flower, Marshmallow Root, Oregano Leaf, Thyme
> Leaf,
> > Comfrey Root, Agrimony, Raspberry Leaf, Stinging Nettle, Plantain Leaf,
> > Lavender, Yarrow, Rose Hips, Alfalfa.
> >
> >
> > The herbs I purchase from Frontier. As my garden grows, I use homegrown
> > herbs as much as I can. The oils are mostly organic.
> > It can be a little heavy when you first out it on, but its not terrible.
> > Since its made with natural oils, it soaks in nicely.
> > Raven:
> > It is fragrance free. The herbs and clove oil give it a slight smell to
> it,
> > but it is very mild.
> > Anne:
> > I get the standard oils from my local food co-op. Like the Olive oil,
> Sesame
> > oil, and Vitamin E oils. I make the Arnica and Calendula Oils. I steep
> the
> > herb in olive oil for a month while agitating frequently. Its really
> easy.
> > Phew! I think that answered all of the questions!
>
>
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Re: CS>Arthritus Uh, it's spelled Arthritis...

[Gary Hilt]

Sorry for my faux pas but it does seen a little anal. :O)


On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 7:01 PM, Lena Guyot  wrote:

> The thread started here, I think. It's spelled 'arthritis'. Hate to see
> errors repeated over and over again, because the more they're repeated, the
> more they look right and then we're all stuck thinking we've been
> misspelling when we haven't. In one group, the doomed word was 'gull'
> bladder. For myself, it took me almost two years to finally get
> 'ophthalmologist' right. :-) Léna
> On Jul 25, 2013, at 8:27 AM, Gary Hilt wrote:
>
> Hi to all: im back again to find some wisdom.
> i have 2 bad shoulders both worked on rotator etc. and both hips. i try to
> walk with the aid of a rolling walker and i ride a bike.
> im using Capsaisin which affords some relief and i have used DMSO little
> help. i also use Capsaison capsules and ginger. Any ideas for Arthritic
> pain and soreness. im 65
> Thank You
> gary
>
>
> --
> Eph 1:2  Grace be to you, and peace, from God our Father, and from the
> Lord Jesus Christ.
> Gary & Lennie
>
>
>


-- 
Eph 1:2  Grace be to you, and peace, from God our Father, and from the Lord
Jesus Christ.
Gary & Lennie

Re: CS>Arthritus

[123 456]

Look into wild marjorum.
it is higher in mag than any  of the others and is absorbed very
quickly and blends well with the heavier bases.
I have been making this up every summer for my own pains and aches.
relif upon  contact.
because it  is  thinner than a cream  it is absorbed  faster.
keep you  system in  a ph baleced state or even a little alkaline.
this should help to  deal  with the inflammation  in the tissues.
Eating hempseed oil and coconut oils on a daily basis will do a lot
for the pain too.
all the best...
let us know how you like the ideas?
Tara

On 7/25/13, PT Ferrance  wrote:
> Thanks Heather.  The vit E oil doesn't work for me.
> PT
>
>
>
>
> 
>  From: Heather W 
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2013 2:17 PM
> Subject: Re: CS>Arthritus
>
>
>
> Thanks for all the interest! Please feel free to e-mail me directly if you
> have any other questions.
> You could send the money through PayPal. The email
> is magicwysorb...@gmail.com.
> Or send a check to:
> Heather Wysor
> 1041 E. Forest Ave
> Ypsilanti, MI 48198
> Www.Facebook.com/MagicWysorBalm/
> PT:
> Ingredients: Olive Oil, Sesame Oil, Vitamin E Oil, Coconut Oil, Coco Butter,
> Arnica Oil, Calendula Oil, Clove Oil, Beeswax, Chamomile, Mullein Leaf,
> Blessed Thistle, Elder Flower, Marshmallow Root, Oregano Leaf, Thyme Leaf,
> Comfrey Root, Agrimony, Raspberry Leaf, Stinging Nettle, Plantain Leaf,
> Lavender, Yarrow, Rose Hips, Alfalfa.
>
>
> The herbs I purchase from Frontier. As my garden grows, I use homegrown
> herbs as much as I can. The oils are mostly organic.
> It can be a little heavy when you first out it on, but its not terrible.
> Since its made with natural oils, it soaks in nicely.
> Raven:
> It is fragrance free. The herbs and clove oil give it a slight smell to it,
> but it is very mild.
> Anne:
> I get the standard oils from my local food co-op. Like the Olive oil, Sesame
> oil, and Vitamin E oils. I make the Arnica and Calendula Oils. I steep the
> herb in olive oil for a month while agitating frequently. Its really easy.
> Phew! I think that answered all of the questions!


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Re: CS>Arthritus

[Gary Hilt]

Money is on its way any idea how long for delivery?


On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 6:36 PM, PT Ferrance  wrote:

> Thanks Heather.  The vit E oil doesn't work for me.
> PT
>
>
>   --
>  *From:* Heather W 
> *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com
> *Sent:* Thursday, July 25, 2013 2:17 PM
> *Subject:* Re: CS>Arthritus
>
> Thanks for all the interest! Please feel free to e-mail me directly if you
> have any other questions.
> You could send the money through PayPal. The email is
> magicwysorb...@gmail.com.
> Or send a check to:
> Heather Wysor
> 1041 E. Forest Ave
> Ypsilanti, MI 48198
> Www.Facebook.com/MagicWysorBalm/ <http://www.facebook.com/MagicWysorBalm/>
> PT:
> Ingredients: Olive Oil, Sesame Oil, Vitamin E Oil, Coconut Oil, Coco
> Butter, Arnica Oil, Calendula Oil, Clove Oil, Beeswax, Chamomile, Mullein
> Leaf, Blessed Thistle, Elder Flower, Marshmallow Root, Oregano Leaf, Thyme
> Leaf, Comfrey Root, Agrimony, Raspberry Leaf, Stinging Nettle, Plantain
> Leaf, Lavender, Yarrow, Rose Hips, Alfalfa.
>
> The herbs I purchase from Frontier. As my garden grows, I use homegrown
> herbs as much as I can. The oils are mostly organic.
> It can be a little heavy when you first out it on, but its not terrible.
> Since its made with natural oils, it soaks in nicely.
> Raven:
> It is fragrance free. The herbs and clove oil give it a slight smell to
> it, but it is very mild.
> Anne:
> I get the standard oils from my local food co-op. Like the Olive oil,
> Sesame oil, and Vitamin E oils. I make the Arnica and Calendula Oils. I
> steep the herb in olive oil for a month while agitating frequently. Its
> really easy.
> Phew! I think that answered all of the questions!
>
>
>


-- 
Eph 1:2  Grace be to you, and peace, from God our Father, and from the Lord
Jesus Christ.
Gary & Lennie

Re: CS>Arthritus Uh, it's spelled Arthritis...

[Lena Guyot]

The thread started here, I think. It's spelled 'arthritis'. Hate to see errors 
repeated over and over again, because the more they're repeated, the more they 
look right and then we're all stuck thinking we've been misspelling when we 
haven't. In one group, the doomed word was 'gull' bladder. For myself, it took 
me almost two years to finally get 'ophthalmologist' right. :-) Léna
On Jul 25, 2013, at 8:27 AM, Gary Hilt wrote:

> Hi to all: im back again to find some wisdom.
> i have 2 bad shoulders both worked on rotator etc. and both hips. i try to 
> walk with the aid of a rolling walker and i ride a bike.
> im using Capsaisin which affords some relief and i have used DMSO little 
> help. i also use Capsaison capsules and ginger. Any ideas for Arthritic pain 
> and soreness. im 65
> Thank You
> gary
> 
> 
> -- 
> Eph 1:2  Grace be to you, and peace, from God our Father, and from the Lord 
> Jesus Christ. 
> Gary & Lennie

Re: CS>Arthritus

[PT Ferrance]

Thanks Heather.  The vit E oil doesn't work for me.
PT





 From: Heather W 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2013 2:17 PM
Subject: Re: CS>Arthritus
 


Thanks for all the interest! Please feel free to e-mail me directly if you have 
any other questions. 
You could send the money through PayPal. The email is magicwysorb...@gmail.com. 
Or send a check to:
Heather Wysor
1041 E. Forest Ave
Ypsilanti, MI 48198
Www.Facebook.com/MagicWysorBalm/
PT:
Ingredients: Olive Oil, Sesame Oil, Vitamin E Oil, Coconut Oil, Coco Butter, 
Arnica Oil, Calendula Oil, Clove Oil, Beeswax, Chamomile, Mullein Leaf, Blessed 
Thistle, Elder Flower, Marshmallow Root, Oregano Leaf, Thyme Leaf, Comfrey 
Root, Agrimony, Raspberry Leaf, Stinging Nettle, Plantain Leaf, Lavender, 
Yarrow, Rose Hips, Alfalfa.


The herbs I purchase from Frontier. As my garden grows, I use homegrown herbs 
as much as I can. The oils are mostly organic. 
It can be a little heavy when you first out it on, but its not terrible. Since 
its made with natural oils, it soaks in nicely. 
Raven:
It is fragrance free. The herbs and clove oil give it a slight smell to it, but 
it is very mild. 
Anne:
I get the standard oils from my local food co-op. Like the Olive oil, Sesame 
oil, and Vitamin E oils. I make the Arnica and Calendula Oils. I steep the herb 
in olive oil for a month while agitating frequently. Its really easy. 
Phew! I think that answered all of the questions! 

Re: CS>Arthritus

[PT Ferrance]

I have also found this product helpful...
http://dermcreations.com/
PT





 From: Lena Guyot 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2013 12:49 PM
Subject: Re: CS>Arthritus
 


I've recently discovered 'Two Old Goats' (twooldgoats.com) It's a wonderful 
lotion  for Fibro and Arthritis: all natural, herbal, homeopathic, smells 
lovely, disappears into the skin quickly and works surprisingly well. I've put 
some in small travel squeeze bottles everywhere, so if I need it, i remember to 
use it. Great stuff!

Be well,
Léna

On Jul 25, 2013, at 11:21 AM, Anne Ney wrote:

You can buy arnica gel...works some...
>
>Sent from my iPad
>
>On Jul 25, 2013, at 7:56 AM, Gary Hilt  wrote:
>
>
>Hello Heather:
>>Well im not really saavy enough for all that but what would you charge to 
>>make me some? i'd really appreciate it.
>>Thanks!
>>
>>
>>
>>On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 8:34 AM, Heather W  wrote:
>>
>>I make a balm with herbs like yarrow, nettle, plantain. I use any herbs that 
>>have anti-inflammatory properties. I also add arnica oil, calendula oil, and 
>>clove oil. Those oils help with the pain, soreness, and inflammation. I make 
>>it for my family members that need it and they use it a lot and say it works 
>>really well. Good luck!
>>>On Jul 25, 2013 8:27 AM, "Gary Hilt"  wrote:
>>>
>>>Hi to all: im back again to find some wisdom.
>>>>i have 2 bad shoulders both worked on rotator etc. and both hips. i try to 
>>>>walk with the aid of a rolling walker and i ride a bike.
>>>>im using Capsaisin which affords some relief and i have used DMSO little 
>>>>help. i also use Capsaison capsules and ginger. Any ideas for Arthritic 
>>>>pain and soreness. im 65
>>>>Thank You
>>>>gary
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
-- 
>>>>
>>>>Eph 1:2  Grace be to you, and peace, from God our Father, and from the Lord 
>>>>Jesus Christ. 
>>>>Gary & Lennie
>>
>>
>>
>>-- 
>>
>>Eph 1:2  Grace be to you, and peace, from God our Father, and from the Lord 
>>Jesus Christ. 
>>Gary & Lennie

Re: CS>Arthritus

[PT Ferrance]

I don't believe it is seltzer water but rather carbonated water that should 
contain nothing else.  That is also a very large dose from everything I have 
read.
If you want more information search "afibber's cocktail".
PT





 From: Anne Ney 
To: "silver-list@eskimo.com"  
Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2013 12:00 PM
Subject: Re: CS>Arthritus
 


Why selser water?

Sent from my iPad

On Jul 25, 2013, at 10:56 AM, dAVId  wrote:


The best prevenative for me is using magnesium bicarbonate, wahoo, great for 
all aches and pains.  Mix three tablespoons of milk of magnesium, plain, in one 
liter/one quart of Selzer water, shake and leave in refrig for about thirty 
minutes, drink about one third bottle daily.  Wally world has both for a small 
charge.  This mix really puts a tremendous amount of magnesium into the body 
and will strengthen muscles.  Magnesium causes muscles to relax, Potassium 
constricts muscles, we generally get enough potassium from foods, mag is hard 
to get as there is none in our soil since nineteen ninety, so we sleep much 
better, no more restless leg syndrome and magnesium is a very great anti 
pathogen.  MoM is a laxative so spread out your dosage to twice a day, david 
lubbock tx. 
>
>
>On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 7:27 AM, Gary Hilt  wrote:
>
>Hi to all: im back again to find some wisdom.
>>i have 2 bad shoulders both worked on rotator etc. and both hips. i try to 
>>walk with the aid of a rolling walker and i ride a bike.
>>im using Capsaisin which affords some relief and i have used DMSO little 
>>help. i also use Capsaison capsules and ginger. Any ideas for Arthritic pain 
>>and soreness. im 65
>>Thank Yougary
>>
>>
>>
>>-- 
>>
>>Eph 1:2  Grace be to you, and peace, from God our Father, and from the Lord 
>>Jesus Christ. 
>>Gary & Lennie
>

Re: CS>Arthritus

[Marshall]

Sorry Bicarbonate:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnesium_carbonate

Mg(OH)_2 + 2 CO_2 → Mg(HCO_3 )_2

Which when dried under a vacuum produces magnesium carbonate.

Marshall

On 7/25/2013 1:58 PM, Dan Nave wrote:

Do you mean carbonate or bicarbonate?

I don't think it is the same...

Dan


On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 11:16 AM, Marshall > wrote:


Milk of magnesia is magnesium hydroxide.  Selzer water is carbonic
acid, that is water and carbon dioxide.  When you mix the two they
neutralize each other producing magnesium carbonate.

Marshall


On 7/25/2013 12:00 PM, Anne Ney wrote:

Why selser water?

Sent from my iPad

On Jul 25, 2013, at 10:56 AM, dAVId mailto:dhall...@gmail.com>> wrote:


The best prevenative for me is using magnesium bicarbonate,
wahoo, great for all aches and pains.  Mix three tablespoons of
milk of magnesium, plain, in one liter/one quart of Selzer
water, shake and leave in refrig for about thirty minutes, drink
about one third bottle daily.  Wally world has both for a small
charge.  This mix really puts a tremendous amount of magnesium
into the body and will strengthen muscles.  Magnesium causes
muscles to relax, Potassium constricts muscles, we generally get
enough potassium from foods, mag is hard to get as there is none
in our soil since nineteen ninety, so we sleep much better, no
more restless leg syndrome and magnesium is a very great anti
pathogen.  MoM is a laxative so spread out your dosage to twice
a day, david lubbock tx.

On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 7:27 AM, Gary Hilt
mailto:sobertogod1n...@gmail.com>>
wrote:

Hi to all: im back again to find some wisdom.
i have 2 bad shoulders both worked on rotator etc. and both
hips. i try to walk with the aid of a rolling walker and i
ride a bike.
im using Capsaisin which affords some relief and i have used
DMSO little help. i also use Capsaison capsules and ginger.
Any ideas for Arthritic pain and soreness. im 65
Thank You
gary


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Eph 1:2  Grace be to you, and peace, from God our Father,

and from the Lord Jesus Christ.
Gary & Lennie





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Re: CS>Arthritus

[Heather W]

Thanks for all the interest! Please feel free to e-mail me directly if you
have any other questions.

You could send the money through PayPal. The email is
magicwysorb...@gmail.com.

Or send a check to:

Heather Wysor
1041 E. Forest Ave
Ypsilanti, MI 48198

Www.Facebook.com/MagicWysorBalm/

PT:

Ingredients: Olive Oil, Sesame Oil, Vitamin E Oil, Coconut Oil, Coco
Butter, Arnica Oil, Calendula Oil, Clove Oil, Beeswax, Chamomile, Mullein
Leaf, Blessed Thistle, Elder Flower, Marshmallow Root, Oregano Leaf, Thyme
Leaf, Comfrey Root, Agrimony, Raspberry Leaf, Stinging Nettle, Plantain
Leaf, Lavender, Yarrow, Rose Hips, Alfalfa.

The herbs I purchase from Frontier. As my garden grows, I use homegrown
herbs as much as I can. The oils are mostly organic.

It can be a little heavy when you first out it on, but its not terrible.
Since its made with natural oils, it soaks in nicely.

Raven:

It is fragrance free. The herbs and clove oil give it a slight smell to it,
but it is very mild.

Anne:

I get the standard oils from my local food co-op. Like the Olive oil,
Sesame oil, and Vitamin E oils. I make the Arnica and Calendula Oils. I
steep the herb in olive oil for a month while agitating frequently. Its
really easy.

Phew! I think that answered all of the questions!

Re: CS>Arthritus

[Monique Sauve]

Joint Formula 14 is helpful.  I have RA and have tried many things. This 
supplement does help.


Hope you find some relief
Monique
On 7/25/2013 5:27 AM, Gary Hilt wrote:

Hi to all: im back again to find some wisdom.
i have 2 bad shoulders both worked on rotator etc. and both hips. i 
try to walk with the aid of a rolling walker and i ride a bike.
im using Capsaisin which affords some relief and i have used DMSO 
little help. i also use Capsaison capsules and ginger. Any ideas for 
Arthritic pain and soreness. im 65

Thank You
gary


--
Eph 1:2  Grace be to you, and peace, from God our Father, and from the 
Lord Jesus Christ.

Gary & Lennie

Re: CS>Arthritus

[Dan Nave]

Do you mean carbonate or bicarbonate?

I don't think it is the same...

Dan


On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 11:16 AM, Marshall  wrote:

> **
> Milk of magnesia is magnesium hydroxide.  Selzer water is carbonic acid,
> that is water and carbon dioxide.  When you mix the two they neutralize
> each other producing magnesium carbonate.
>
> Marshall
>
>
> On 7/25/2013 12:00 PM, Anne Ney wrote:
>
> Why selser water?
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Jul 25, 2013, at 10:56 AM, dAVId  wrote:
>
>  The best prevenative for me is using magnesium bicarbonate, wahoo, great
> for all aches and pains.  Mix three tablespoons of milk of magnesium,
> plain, in one liter/one quart of Selzer water, shake and leave in refrig
> for about thirty minutes, drink about one third bottle daily.  Wally world
> has both for a small charge.  This mix really puts a tremendous amount of
> magnesium into the body and will strengthen muscles.  Magnesium causes
> muscles to relax, Potassium constricts muscles, we generally get enough
> potassium from foods, mag is hard to get as there is none in our soil since
> nineteen ninety, so we sleep much better, no more restless leg syndrome and
> magnesium is a very great anti pathogen.  MoM is a laxative so spread out
> your dosage to twice a day, david lubbock tx.
>
> On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 7:27 AM, Gary Hilt wrote:
>
>>  Hi to all: im back again to find some wisdom.
>>  i have 2 bad shoulders both worked on rotator etc. and both hips. i try
>> to walk with the aid of a rolling walker and i ride a bike.
>>  im using Capsaisin which affords some relief and i have used DMSO little
>> help. i also use Capsaison capsules and ginger. Any ideas for Arthritic
>> pain and soreness. im 65
>>  Thank You
>>  gary
>>
>>
>>  --
>> Eph 1:2  Grace be to you, and peace, from God our Father, and from the
>> Lord Jesus Christ.
>> Gary & Lennie
>>
>
>  --
>
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>
>
>

Re: CS>Arthritus

[Lena Guyot]

I've recently discovered 'Two Old Goats' (twooldgoats.com) It's a wonderful 
lotion  for Fibro and Arthritis: all natural, herbal, homeopathic, smells 
lovely, disappears into the skin quickly and works surprisingly well. I've put 
some in small travel squeeze bottles everywhere, so if I need it, i remember to 
use it. Great stuff!

Be well,
Léna
On Jul 25, 2013, at 11:21 AM, Anne Ney wrote:

> You can buy arnica gel...works some...
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
> On Jul 25, 2013, at 7:56 AM, Gary Hilt  wrote:
> 
>> Hello Heather:
>> Well im not really saavy enough for all that but what would you charge to 
>> make me some? i'd really appreciate it.
>> Thanks!
>> 
>> 
>> On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 8:34 AM, Heather W  wrote:
>> I make a balm with herbs like yarrow, nettle, plantain. I use any herbs that 
>> have anti-inflammatory properties. I also add arnica oil, calendula oil, and 
>> clove oil. Those oils help with the pain, soreness, and inflammation. I make 
>> it for my family members that need it and they use it a lot and say it works 
>> really well. Good luck!
>> 
>> On Jul 25, 2013 8:27 AM, "Gary Hilt"  wrote:
>> Hi to all: im back again to find some wisdom.
>> i have 2 bad shoulders both worked on rotator etc. and both hips. i try to 
>> walk with the aid of a rolling walker and i ride a bike.
>> im using Capsaisin which affords some relief and i have used DMSO little 
>> help. i also use Capsaison capsules and ginger. Any ideas for Arthritic pain 
>> and soreness. im 65
>> Thank You
>> gary
>> 
>> 
>> -- 
>> Eph 1:2  Grace be to you, and peace, from God our Father, and from the Lord 
>> Jesus Christ. 
>> Gary & Lennie
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -- 
>> Eph 1:2  Grace be to you, and peace, from God our Father, and from the Lord 
>> Jesus Christ. 
>> Gary & Lennie

Re: CS>Arthritus

[dAVId]

Selzer water, aka, soda water, is fused with carbon dioxide, carbon dioxide
works synergistic with magnesium and helps the body absorb it.  Cramps are
a side affect of a lack of magnesium, I can have cramps and within twenty
minutes of drinking this water with MoM, they are gone.  david lubbock tx.

On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 11:00 AM, Anne Ney  wrote:

> Why selser water?
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Jul 25, 2013, at 10:56 AM, dAVId  wrote:
>
> The best prevenative for me is using magnesium bicarbonate, wahoo, great
> for all aches and pains.  Mix three tablespoons of milk of magnesium,
> plain, in one liter/one quart of Selzer water, shake and leave in refrig
> for about thirty minutes, drink about one third bottle daily.  Wally world
> has both for a small charge.  This mix really puts a tremendous amount of
> magnesium into the body and will strengthen muscles.  Magnesium causes
> muscles to relax, Potassium constricts muscles, we generally get enough
> potassium from foods, mag is hard to get as there is none in our soil since
> nineteen ninety, so we sleep much better, no more restless leg syndrome and
> magnesium is a very great anti pathogen.  MoM is a laxative so spread out
> your dosage to twice a day, david lubbock tx.
>
> On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 7:27 AM, Gary Hilt wrote:
>
>> Hi to all: im back again to find some wisdom.
>> i have 2 bad shoulders both worked on rotator etc. and both hips. i try
>> to walk with the aid of a rolling walker and i ride a bike.
>> im using Capsaisin which affords some relief and i have used DMSO little
>> help. i also use Capsaison capsules and ginger. Any ideas for Arthritic
>> pain and soreness. im 65
>> Thank You
>> gary
>>
>>
>> --
>> Eph 1:2  Grace be to you, and peace, from God our Father, and from the
>> Lord Jesus Christ.
>> Gary & Lennie
>>
>
>

Re: CS>Arthritus

[Marshall]

Milk of magnesia is magnesium hydroxide.  Selzer water is carbonic acid, 
that is water and carbon dioxide.  When you mix the two they neutralize 
each other producing magnesium carbonate.


Marshall

On 7/25/2013 12:00 PM, Anne Ney wrote:

Why selser water?

Sent from my iPad

On Jul 25, 2013, at 10:56 AM, dAVId > wrote:


The best prevenative for me is using magnesium bicarbonate, wahoo, 
great for all aches and pains.  Mix three tablespoons of milk of 
magnesium, plain, in one liter/one quart of Selzer water, shake and 
leave in refrig for about thirty minutes, drink about one third 
bottle daily.  Wally world has both for a small charge.  This mix 
really puts a tremendous amount of magnesium into the body and will 
strengthen muscles.  Magnesium causes muscles to relax, Potassium 
constricts muscles, we generally get enough potassium from foods, mag 
is hard to get as there is none in our soil since nineteen ninety, so 
we sleep much better, no more restless leg syndrome and magnesium is 
a very great anti pathogen.  MoM is a laxative so spread out your 
dosage to twice a day, david lubbock tx.


On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 7:27 AM, Gary Hilt > wrote:


Hi to all: im back again to find some wisdom.
i have 2 bad shoulders both worked on rotator etc. and both hips.
i try to walk with the aid of a rolling walker and i ride a bike.
im using Capsaisin which affords some relief and i have used DMSO
little help. i also use Capsaison capsules and ginger. Any ideas
for Arthritic pain and soreness. im 65
Thank You
gary


-- 
Eph 1:2  Grace be to you, and peace, from God our Father, and

from the Lord Jesus Christ.
Gary & Lennie





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RE: CS>Arthritus

[Dianne France]

Gary,
Suggest you check the cs archives for a post from Brooks Bradley on arthritis.  
He
has done a lot of research and was kind enough to share.
Dianne
 
Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2013 09:48:47 -0400
Subject: Re: CS>Arthritus
From: sobertogod1n...@gmail.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com

Thanks Heather ill gladly pay the $ 20 let me know how to send. Gary Hilt
 3834a Burberry Dr. N.  Lafayette, Indiana  47905
   Tel: 765-838-1791

On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 9:42 AM, Heather W  wrote:

I have just begun to sell it at my farmers market booth. I sell the 1oz glass 
jar for 5$. I have gotten requests for a larger jar. So I also make a 1/2 pint 
jar for 15 $.  So probably 20 $ total including shipping.  


On Jul 25, 2013 8:56 AM, "Gary Hilt"  wrote:


Hello Heather:Well im not really saavy enough for all that but what would you 
charge to make me some? i'd really appreciate it.


Thanks!

On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 8:34 AM, Heather W  wrote:



I make a balm with herbs like yarrow, nettle, plantain. I use any herbs that 
have anti-inflammatory properties. I also add arnica oil, calendula oil, and 
clove oil. Those oils help with the pain, soreness, and inflammation. I make it 
for my family members that need it and they use it a lot and say it works 
really well. Good luck!




On Jul 25, 2013 8:27 AM, "Gary Hilt"  wrote:




Hi to all: im back again to find some wisdom.




i have 2 bad shoulders both worked on rotator etc. and both hips. i try to walk 
with the aid of a rolling walker and i ride a bike.




im using Capsaisin which affords some relief and i have used DMSO little help. 
i also use Capsaison capsules and ginger. Any ideas for Arthritic pain and 
soreness. im 65




Thank Yougary





-- 

Eph 1:2  Grace be to you, and peace, from God our Father, and from the Lord 
Jesus Christ. Gary & Lennie




-- 
Eph 1:2  Grace be to you, and peace, from God our Father, and from the Lord 
Jesus Christ. 
Gary & Lennie




-- 
Eph 1:2  Grace be to you, and peace, from God our Father, and from the Lord 
Jesus Christ. Gary & Lennie
  

Re: CS>Arthritus

[Alan Jones]

Here's more info on the magnesium bicarb recipe:
www.afibbers.org/Wallerwater.pdf

-- 
Alan Jones

"The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor
prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or
to the people."  (Tenth Amendment to the US Constitution)

Re: CS>Arthritus

[Anne Ney]

Why selser water?

Sent from my iPad

On Jul 25, 2013, at 10:56 AM, dAVId  wrote:

> The best prevenative for me is using magnesium bicarbonate, wahoo, great for 
> all aches and pains.  Mix three tablespoons of milk of magnesium, plain, in 
> one liter/one quart of Selzer water, shake and leave in refrig for about 
> thirty minutes, drink about one third bottle daily.  Wally world has both for 
> a small charge.  This mix really puts a tremendous amount of magnesium into 
> the body and will strengthen muscles.  Magnesium causes muscles to relax, 
> Potassium constricts muscles, we generally get enough potassium from foods, 
> mag is hard to get as there is none in our soil since nineteen ninety, so we 
> sleep much better, no more restless leg syndrome and magnesium is a very 
> great anti pathogen.  MoM is a laxative so spread out your dosage to twice a 
> day, david lubbock tx. 
> 
> On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 7:27 AM, Gary Hilt  wrote:
> Hi to all: im back again to find some wisdom.
> i have 2 bad shoulders both worked on rotator etc. and both hips. i try to 
> walk with the aid of a rolling walker and i ride a bike.
> im using Capsaisin which affords some relief and i have used DMSO little 
> help. i also use Capsaison capsules and ginger. Any ideas for Arthritic pain 
> and soreness. im 65
> Thank You
> gary
> 
> 
> -- 
> Eph 1:2  Grace be to you, and peace, from God our Father, and from the Lord 
> Jesus Christ. 
> Gary & Lennie
> 

Re: CS>Arthritus

[dAVId]

The best prevenative for me is using magnesium bicarbonate, wahoo, great
for all aches and pains.  Mix three tablespoons of milk of magnesium,
plain, in one liter/one quart of Selzer water, shake and leave in refrig
for about thirty minutes, drink about one third bottle daily.  Wally world
has both for a small charge.  This mix really puts a tremendous amount of
magnesium into the body and will strengthen muscles.  Magnesium causes
muscles to relax, Potassium constricts muscles, we generally get enough
potassium from foods, mag is hard to get as there is none in our soil since
nineteen ninety, so we sleep much better, no more restless leg syndrome and
magnesium is a very great anti pathogen.  MoM is a laxative so spread out
your dosage to twice a day, david lubbock tx.

On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 7:27 AM, Gary Hilt wrote:

> Hi to all: im back again to find some wisdom.
> i have 2 bad shoulders both worked on rotator etc. and both hips. i try to
> walk with the aid of a rolling walker and i ride a bike.
> im using Capsaisin which affords some relief and i have used DMSO little
> help. i also use Capsaison capsules and ginger. Any ideas for Arthritic
> pain and soreness. im 65
> Thank You
> gary
>
>
> --
> Eph 1:2  Grace be to you, and peace, from God our Father, and from the
> Lord Jesus Christ.
> Gary & Lennie
>

Re: CS>Arthritus

[Anne Ney]

Heather...where do you get the oils?

Sent from my iPad

On Jul 25, 2013, at 8:42 AM, Heather W  wrote:

> I have just begun to sell it at my farmers market booth. I sell the 1oz glass 
> jar for 5$. I have gotten requests for a larger jar. So I also make a 1/2 
> pint jar for 15 $.  So probably 20 $ total including shipping. 
> 
> On Jul 25, 2013 8:56 AM, "Gary Hilt"  wrote:
> Hello Heather:
> Well im not really saavy enough for all that but what would you charge to 
> make me some? i'd really appreciate it.
> Thanks!
> 
> 
> On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 8:34 AM, Heather W  wrote:
> I make a balm with herbs like yarrow, nettle, plantain. I use any herbs that 
> have anti-inflammatory properties. I also add arnica oil, calendula oil, and 
> clove oil. Those oils help with the pain, soreness, and inflammation. I make 
> it for my family members that need it and they use it a lot and say it works 
> really well. Good luck!
> 
> On Jul 25, 2013 8:27 AM, "Gary Hilt"  wrote:
> Hi to all: im back again to find some wisdom.
> i have 2 bad shoulders both worked on rotator etc. and both hips. i try to 
> walk with the aid of a rolling walker and i ride a bike.
> im using Capsaisin which affords some relief and i have used DMSO little 
> help. i also use Capsaison capsules and ginger. Any ideas for Arthritic pain 
> and soreness. im 65
> Thank You
> gary
> 
> 
> -- 
> Eph 1:2  Grace be to you, and peace, from God our Father, and from the Lord 
> Jesus Christ. 
> Gary & Lennie
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Eph 1:2  Grace be to you, and peace, from God our Father, and from the Lord 
> Jesus Christ. 
> Gary & Lennie

Re: CS>Arthritus

[Anne Ney]

You can buy arnica gel...works some...

Sent from my iPad

On Jul 25, 2013, at 7:56 AM, Gary Hilt  wrote:

> Hello Heather:
> Well im not really saavy enough for all that but what would you charge to 
> make me some? i'd really appreciate it.
> Thanks!
> 
> 
> On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 8:34 AM, Heather W  wrote:
> I make a balm with herbs like yarrow, nettle, plantain. I use any herbs that 
> have anti-inflammatory properties. I also add arnica oil, calendula oil, and 
> clove oil. Those oils help with the pain, soreness, and inflammation. I make 
> it for my family members that need it and they use it a lot and say it works 
> really well. Good luck!
> 
> On Jul 25, 2013 8:27 AM, "Gary Hilt"  wrote:
> Hi to all: im back again to find some wisdom.
> i have 2 bad shoulders both worked on rotator etc. and both hips. i try to 
> walk with the aid of a rolling walker and i ride a bike.
> im using Capsaisin which affords some relief and i have used DMSO little 
> help. i also use Capsaison capsules and ginger. Any ideas for Arthritic pain 
> and soreness. im 65
> Thank You
> gary
> 
> 
> -- 
> Eph 1:2  Grace be to you, and peace, from God our Father, and from the Lord 
> Jesus Christ. 
> Gary & Lennie
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Eph 1:2  Grace be to you, and peace, from God our Father, and from the Lord 
> Jesus Christ. 
> Gary & Lennie

Re: CS>Arthritus

[Anne Ney]

Vitalzyme or serrapeptase.  IMRS.  
Love Ephesians!

Sent from my iPad

On Jul 25, 2013, at 7:27 AM, Gary Hilt  wrote:

> Hi to all: im back again to find some wisdom.
> i have 2 bad shoulders both worked on rotator etc. and both hips. i try to 
> walk with the aid of a rolling walker and i ride a bike.
> im using Capsaisin which affords some relief and i have used DMSO little 
> help. i also use Capsaison capsules and ginger. Any ideas for Arthritic pain 
> and soreness. im 65
> Thank You
> gary
> 
> 
> -- 
> Eph 1:2  Grace be to you, and peace, from God our Father, and from the Lord 
> Jesus Christ. 
> Gary & Lennie