i don't know if this worked the first time so here goes nothing
On Tue, 5 Dec 1995, Jon Bartlett wrote: but maybe you can go down to myron's or something. jon (in catanostyle) that's a good name for a band. glad to know i have a style (i think...) i never know how to interpret these backhanded compliments of yours, jon. I'VE GOT AN IDEA let's see what you nutty chuckleheads think about this: -there shall be no more than three (3) posts a day per person to the sloan net. offenders shall be warned and then removed from the list. this might cause some people to think before they post, it would eliminate the dreaded 2 line/word posts and would cut down on that traffic that some litle babies are whining about (digests are for weinies). i've seen/heard of his idea being implemented on some other high traffic (and i mean high traffic lists, like the 250 msg a day punk list) lists, and sloan net is NOT high traffic at all, so maybe it might be too much, i don't know. but maybe people would start to listen to those rules of sloan net that james sends new subscribers, like reading all of your mail before you respond to something, and hen maybe including several points in one interesting post, instead of four really dumb ones? anyhoo, this will only work if james actually unsubs offenders, otherwise it'll be back to the same old say mould in no time. just a thought. mc ps - oh, and to deryl, if you don't think people jump on my ass, you really haven't been around here very long - and the difference between your random acts of senseless profanity and what i do is the fct that i actually try (i don't always suceed) to make some sort of point that is grounded in the temporal plane with what i write. there is a difference between whining and criticism. gordon, ned and tyler are three good friends of mine and i think that preppy relatives are one of the best bands in this town - my post was merely to express my bewilderment at what is to come. for fans of PR, this will be a very different show indeed. pps - i think the nutty chuckleheads is a good band name as well.
Re: Sanisoft/Preppy Relatives/Jim Cooper show
On Mon, 4 Dec 1995, Bob Reeves wrote: It should be cool show. Gordon is promising a Preppy Relatives show unlike any anyone has ever seen. Sanisoft might (but it looks doubtful) actually the new preppy relatives (at least for this show): gordon isnor on organ tyler dewar on guitar ned ludd on drums some performance artist on performance art one song, twenty minutes, two chords. you be the judge. mc
Re: CASBY mystery band
On Sun, 3 Dec 1995, Waye Mason wrote: then again, should we be talking about State Champs might as well being from Southern California? :) W. actually, we've been honing our socal sound pretty well, mark and jon traded their fenders in for ibanezes (ibani?) and i bought some tama drums with double bass drums. we've got MESA/boogie staxxx and cool a.r.t. rack efx. i wrote this song called skater grrrl and we're releasing it on cruz records (it's produced by alvarez and stevenson - who else?). it's like a more skateable version of descendants. we;'re filming our new video at the halibowl and we got a proskates sponsorship. things are finally looking up for the state champs (or should i say ... skate ramps?) look for it in the bin next to shaken by the speed, and catch us on tour with big drill car. mc p.s. - was at the downtown sam's last week and i saw smeared in the delete bin. the salesman said we've got to sell them somehow... pps - waye is the devil.
Re: fuck math-rock!
On Fri, 24 Nov 1995, Joel Healy wrote: *Every* band that DGC promotes sells well. Nirvana, Hole, Sonic Youth, Beck, Weezer, Veruca Salt. with the exception of weezer, all of tose bands had exeptionally well recieved albums out on indies (or sort-of-indies) before signing to dgc, and, just for the record, sonic youth do not sell well (in dgc terms). Most kids probably didn't even know That Dog existed until they toured with Weezer. so? That Dog had their first album out before Weezer was even finished in the studio. so? Why is it that Weezer spent gawd knows how much on their Buddy Holly video, but That Dog and Sloan spent very little? dgc spent basically the same amount on each. the buddy holly video cost next to nothing to make (according to spike jonze who made it), and he did that horrible that dog video where they are in the drive-in resaurant (i think that's what it is, they're all wearing uniforms...). weezer are also a much more commercial sounding band than that dog, and are, imho, about 3,000,000,000 times better (and I DON'T like weezer at all). that dog are shit. Anyway, my point is, that there is a very small group of people at DGC who decide the fate of these bands. DGC could promote the heck out of anything and make it sell. I mean, c'mon... if these kids will buy Silverchair and Bush X, they'll buy ANYTHING. they still aren't buying sonic youth, after dgc has promoted the hell out of them. every time a new sy album comes out the dgc marketing machine rolls into effect - and they never sell particularly well. people (kids and adults alike) will buiy hits, and that's about it. the record industry is STILL single dreivwn, and if a band doesn't producw a viable hit and a video to go with it, and then get the support of mtv, then the record isn't going to sell up to dgc's expectations. btw - maybe france or joyce can confirm this, but i heard that sunny day real estate's diary was te biggest seller that sub-pop has ever had, with about 30,000 copies. is this true? mike
Re: T-shirt rant yet again
On Thu, 23 Nov 1995, Shawn Stackhouse wrote: I tried writing to Jonathan Dacey at [EMAIL PROTECTED] to enquire about my unsent SloanNet T, and it bounced back. It looks like the address doesn't exist. Does anyone know if he's still around anywhere? He still has my 10 bucks. ok, here's the scoop from the frontlines, re: dace-t's. the shipment of backordered t's came into the distributor last week or so, so the shirts should be done soon. jon's account is overloaded and he cen't open it because the disk is full (i guess he only THOUGHT he had unsubscribed form all of those lists...). btw, $10 will not be enough to get you a t-shirt. they were $10 PLUS shipping - if you were amongst the people that did not include shipping, jon will probably get in touch with you. see ya mike luv
Re: Thruster!! @The KLR mem. Ward Room
On Thu, 16 Nov 1995, James R. Covey wrote: you know how much i love you but, being aw, i love you too. =) blunt, and when am i not, i have to say that in this particular case i think you're full of shit. why, oh why, did i see this coming ;) but saying that it is the *same* kind of marginalizing move as calling women bitches is just ridiculous. why? where do we draw the line between what is a *fair* or *acceptable* stereotype and what isn't? first of all, frat boy as a term describing a person with a certain mentality refers to a *voluntarily chosen ideology* rather than a biological or racial differentiation or a sexual orientation. first of all, you are not using the term to describe only the members of fraternities. i'm sure a lot of people who you are talking about probably have nothing to do with frats, and never would. also, i'm sure the frats wouldn't want them either. if you expect me to believe that you are purposely making some sort of pointed statement against patriarchal institutions when you say frat boy you are nuts. i think you are saying it because it's easy. it's a nice, easy term for you to use to discredit a bunch of people you don't like. oh, they're just frat boys. don't pay any attention to them. it's as patriarchal and as demeaning as dismissing feminists as a bunch of crazy lesbos. the context in which the words are used is exactly the same and the sentiment behind them is exactly the same, so i am asking why one is socially correct and one not? why is it only ok to pick on established institutions (institutions we ALL perpetuate and all participate in)? why is it any different for you to dismiss people as frat boys then it is for limbaugh to dismiss a group of women as feminazis? all i want to know is what is the distinction? when is it ok to discriminate? when is it ok to stereotype? so you'll forgive me if i dismiss your remarks out of hand, but it's hardly a radical suggestion to point out that *voluntarily chosen ideologies* and *patriarchal structures* such as the frats have in the past and continue to *legitimate* and *nurture* sexist attitudes like the trash that thruster disseminate. (i use that verb advisedly.) it seems to me that living in our society today constitutes participating in a patriarchal structure and is a voluntarily chosen idealogy. our work force is male dominated and patriarchal. no news to me. it seems pretty damn hard to escape all things patriarchal or idealogical. feminism is a chosen idealogy, and the same could be said for religion, and a host of other things so is it ok to stereotype these institutions because the participants have chosen to be a part of them? as easy as your distiction seems on the surface, it really doesn't do anything except excuse persecution. complaints against the institutions of patriarchy are not reverse discrimination. unless you believe rush limbaugh. so what are complaints against non-patriarchal or non-mainstream institutions? what are sweeping generalisations about jews and feminists? when does choice stop - how much of our situation are we responsible for personally and how much can we dismiss into the realm of biology or sociology? if you can answer that as easily as you dismiss my complaint than you really ought to be making more money than you do, james. *do* you believe rush limbaugh? i believe he eats his pizza the wrong way. james mike ps - it seems that everyone puts their socio-political thinking caps on at this time of night... i guess it's more fun than essays on baudelaire...
Re: les adventures avec moi, al tuck et les nerdz du super
On Sat, 11 Nov 1995, Large Hearted Boy wrote: oh mon dieu, guys from the Nils playing for Al Tuck and SF ??? yikes...that's awesome...I thought I was the only one who knew the Nils...the best band in the world...after the Replacements and GbV ? I didn't really recognize them though...hmmm...what's the guitarrist's name ? it's not one of the brothers, is it ? is it ??? henri sangalang (ex-bass player from kearnry lk. rd.) told me this story about when klr opened for the nils many years ago. he said that they were a bunch of scary coke-heads who locked klr out of the dressing room and said that when he met the bass player this is how it went: you have a nice bass, which is true, henri does have a nice bass. thanks. i stole my bass from the last band that opened up for us. i like yours more. oh. nice guys, eh? mike
Re: Al Tuck bad choice?
On Wed, 8 Nov 1995, colin mackenzie wrote: ok listen you pop rock kids, just because you can not mosh to something does not mean it is not cool. Yea the Super Friendz are amazing, but if you want to look a little closer at the music instead of just the cool: you will find that Al Tuck has had a great influence on many of the Super Friendz, both Matt and Charles played in his band. Rather than discounting it as boring, perhaps you could sit down and let the music sink in. Al by all counts, Chris Murphy too, is a genius song writer, and if you can sit through a Sebadoh album then surely to God you can take a minute and discover somthing that has not bee spoon fed to you by Much Music, Spin,or Ray Gun. by the same token, people don't HAVE to like something just because you or the suerfriendz do, and implying that they are dumb or uncultured or something because they think seeing al tuck opening for the superfriendz is a little weird, or disconcerting or whatever is rather rude. a lot of places that aren't hfx don't have the long tradition of mixing genres at shows - at a lot of places it's like rap show rock show folk show or whatever and people have ideas about what to expect, so hen they see a show like the al/sf show it's a little strange. some people will react by saying that they like the mix, others will react by saying they don't - both are valid. and, just becuase you can sit through an entire sebadoh record, doesn't mean that you could sit through an entire lou barlow set if he was opening for pantera, especially if lou's sets were as long and as self-indulgent as al's tend to be (actually, they probably are). al plays for a long long long time, and it can be a little hard to take. i know lots and lots of people who don't think he's at all talented and don't like his music. does this mean they are all dumb and uneducated? no, of course not, people are allowed to have different opinions, and al's music is really not for everyone. if you like it great, buy his records, go to his shows, etc, etc, but please don't try and make other (younger) people feel stupid because they don't. people have the right to make up their own minds about music, and you telling them that they're wrong about al is no different than mm, raygun or spin telling tem what to like, how to dress, etc. mike lucky for you all Al will be back through on the way back. maybe people still won't like him. what do you do then?
Re: mucheast
On Wed, 8 Nov 1995, James R. Covey wrote: talk about missing a scoop. what a moron. on saturday and sunday afternoons, he could have interviewed people from what i consider to be some of the most important record labels in canada...he could have gone to some of the all ages shows and picked up on some of the lesser known but just as cool (or cooler but anyway) bands...but no. i didn't see him at the no-cases on friday night. in fact, i only saw him at the BAR shows. well, you know, there's a lot of reasons why that might be the case. just to play devil's advocate here... as i said before, mike campbell WAS at the indie symposium and he was talking to labels (and making himself seem like a moron). he was there when i got there on saturday morning (which was right when the doors opened) but i think he left before tara got there (which would be why she didn't see him). - label interviews just aren't as visually interesting as live band footage but, people who run record labes are usually way more interesting than the bands on those labels. picture this: an interview with a label guy cut in with appropriate shots of bands on said label. not really a big concept. bands don't often have much to say. - much east is basically a one-man operation and there's only so much that mike can cover, so it's no wonder that he sticks to higher-profile stuff. much east *has* been described as content-starved and while the inner workings of sappy records may be fascinating to most of us on this list, much music is a business, not a charity. if you compare much east to much west, much east is already covering some very low profile stuff. tdm (tedium?) does, however, go out of his way to interview people (although that show is the biggest pile of dreck that e'er was seen on muchmusic, except for than horrendous abomination that was mike+mike's inane cross cananda adventures) all over bc and the praries, he does features on every major music event, and is also practically a one-man operation. - further to this one-man operation theme, i'm not really sure what kind of process is involved in cataloguing and transferring the video footage to toronto, but i'm sure the work involved in that each week is a major reason that mike doesn't shoot more stuff. probably a lot less than you would think. if muchwest was taped and edited for a 1/2hr show every day last yr, it probably isn't unreasinable to expect an hour of quality every week - c'mon, every week! brave new waves does a great show almost every night with a staff of three people doing everything, and mike campbell has the full support of the mm/city tv/chum-fm family. there really is no good excuse for the half-assed job he oes wih that show. if he needs help getting it together, he should just *ask*, there are enough film students and starving artists in the region and a strong enough film and video community that he could easily find some young people to work as *gasp* interns, for little pay just so they can get some credentials on their resumes. he's admitted that he is out of touch with the indie scene, and i had heard that mm were going to put two vj's on the show, one to cover the trad east coast stuff (campbell) and one to cover indie rock (new guy), but i guess that idea didn't jive to well with someone's ego or pocketbook, because it never happened. why does campbell have to report everything? why can't some other people be found to keep things a little more current? couldn't there be a nfld correspondant? a nb correspondant? it doesn't seem to be to unreasonable an idea... get some young punk to work on commision or something - ie, get paid for every peice they air - and mm will have a better show, and someone will have a nice looking resume item. on the other hand, the show is about east coast music, and the majority of east coast music that gets national attention, or international attention (ie, the stuff people outside the maritimes care about) is fiddle music like the rankins, barra macneils, etc, so you shouldn't complain about it being on mucheast - it has just as much of a right (maybe even more of one) to be there. to expect full hour exposes every week on some pretty obscure topic that would be of little interest to anyone except fanatics is ridiculous. most of the year there really isn't all that much going on in the indie scene (thrush hermit playing at the birdland is hardly cause for a feature), and when here is somehing major (like the popx) he covers it, but thigs like the jazz festival, the blues festival, and the gospel festival are all equally important as the popx and no cases. so there are doubtlessly going to be weeks where there is no rock at all, and that's a valid thing. also, about the limited number of videos that get aired, well, there really aren't many good videos that have come out of the region (and why
madonna, sean, crispin and me
i just saw crispin glover do a reading of eight of his books at the birdland. my oh my, that boy is wacky. the movie the orkly kid was truly fuct. picture this: outcast in small town dreams of being olivia newton john impersonater. he realises his dreams at a town talent show. mike
Re: thrush and other stuff
On Mon, 23 Oct 1995, James R. Covey wrote: this is a question that's been asked here a lot. as far as i know, speedo is strictly the name for the alyson-seb project, not a new name for hardship post. as for the new lineup of hardship post, featuring alyson on guitar/vox, since they haven't gigged yet no one knows what songs they do. seeing how at the time when speedo was formed, alyson was not in hardship post, and matt still was, i think that it is a fair assumption that now that alyson is in hardship post, there will be no more speedo, if there ever actually WAS a speedo. all of the press about speedo said that it came out of alyson's need to sing/play guitar/write songs, and her limitations in jale, so now that she is free of those limitations in hardship post (and the other half of spedo is ALSO in hardship post) it would seem a little redundant to have the same band, with the same principle songwriters minus one member and call it something new. no, i doubt we will ever hear of this speedo again. but you never know... mike
Re: from alt.music.canada: chris coyote logan
it occurs to me that when chris logan speaks of canadian bands doing tired remakes of already dead genres from the 70s and 80s, he forgets to mention the fact that his band is a third rate gloom rock band nestled firmly at the teet of all things '82. In terms of rehashing what's been done, coyote do amout as much to help originate or further styles and genres with their birthday party/cult/bauhaus worshipas the monoxides do with their ridiculous stadium rock ha-ha rock is kitchyfunnycutesy schtick. the main difference is that at least the monoxides have a sense of humour about what they are doing, whereas coyote (or at least chris - from what he writes) seem to see themselves as outside of this group and wholly original. this is bullshit. this kind of whining serves no purpose other than to further chris' own perception of himself as tortured artist and social critic who can't find acceptance within his peers. maybe he should give up being a grumpy old fart and try to contribute something to the scene, as opposed to whining about it, but i suppose if he stopped whining he would actually have to DO something constructive, and what fun is that. don't take this as a dis to coyote or the monoxides - they are both really good at their respective styles - it's just that they aren'texactly breaking new ground. this town needs to develop a sense of community that is sorely lacking. everyone here needs to star communicating a little better and trying to help each other out. maybe if we all stopped ripping each other apart behind each others backs and actually concentrated on keeping this scene alive and vibrant and growing things could be fun again. I heard that both sloan and jale refused to take any money from the popx due to their recent financial troubles, and for this they should be applauded. mike
gravitee shows
i was talking to Melfar from trike last night about the gravitee social club, and she said that it used to be this crazy soul music club, where all these funk bands used to play. there was a shooting or something there, and then it sort of faded away. THE SHOW BEGINS AT 6:00PM TONITE!!! DON'T BE A CHUMP! BE ON TIME!! see sloan ( i hear that they are playing first ...) mike
Re: Hrm.. same guy or an imposter?? ;)
On Sun, 8 Oct 1995, Bob Reeves wrote: Mike Catano? Or is there rilly a Mike Gitano out there in Halifax? :) I just looked in the Halifax/Dartmouth/Bedford phone book and there is no Gitano- maybe you're onto something! maybe it's that guy who makes Gitano jeans. if i was THAT famous, my number would be unlisted too. mike p.p. (yeah you know me...) BR
schedule ... here ya go...
i can't believe i'm doing this ... wednesday, oct. 11th: no venue show (6pm): trike, state champs, special guests birdland show (10pm): l'il orton hoggett the chinstraps plumtree squirrel the sadies cool blue halo thursday, oct. 12 khyber show (2pm) fire engine red new brunswick strawberry preppy relatives elliot smith no venue show (6pm) HIP-HOP SHOWCASE hcg stinkin' rich witchdoc jo-run +guests 6'2 ruffneck birdland show (10pm) maker's mark thrush hermit coyote made crappo 2 elliot smith friday, oct. 12 khyber show (2pm) hedge cleveland steamer madhat orange glass space needle no venue show (6pm) the fastbacks nerdy girl bad luck #13 birdland show (10pm) the fastbacks spaceneedle rebecca west thee suddens scratching post staurday, oct. 14th khyber show (1pm) broken girl dusty sorbet kudzu mighty fishermen duochrome new grand cub no venue show (6pm) eric's trip hayden the motes birdland show (10pm) posies pluto joyve raskin pansy division les pichous sunday, oct. 15th khyber show (1pm) snailhouse moonsocket al tuck leonard conan smoother curb radio blaster no venue show (6pm) dambuilders thrush hermit monoxides elevator to hell birdland show (10pm) dambuilders jale superfriends poumons wooden stars ah... there ya go. if the schedule as posted includes band ORDER, then it would appear that there are some very FUCKED things happening. but i doubt that is the case (elliot smith OPENING for crappo 2?!) mike
Re: flashing -- the new halifax trend
On Tue, 3 Oct 1995, James Cooper wrote: ...and that the Tara S'appart tape isn't really that available, refering to it would hardly be helpful. BUT, the one song I've heard is pretty good.:) where do your write to get a copy? i can dub one for you, jimmy. i have it - it's pretty o.k. nothing to kill for, but s'allright. the collide tape is better and i think there are a thousand copies around, too. mike jim
Re:Elevator to HELL line-up
elevator to hell: mark (drums) tara (bass) ron (keyboards) rick (guitar). that's how they play live, and that's how the sappy single was recorded, i believe. moonsocket is just chris, but once he played live (opening for merge i think) and rick played bass and ron played drums. mike for the scraping.
Re: Holy bee-jeepers. Zloan et le Zuperfriendz et la Hardzhip pozt et ericz...
On Mon, 2 Oct 1995 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: !BONUS! - (geez are you guys lucky.) If anyone already has Self=Title, pop that baby into th' cd-rom an look at the cindy page. Notice any similarities between the photo and an all too familiar album cover? the picture is a joke. it hangs in the murder records office. heeheehee... mike ps - the dacey/raymond/mullane/kelly band is called polvo. whoops, it's actually called high society. or polvo... ;) love her is a raymond/mullane (and occaisionally catano, i suppose) thing. the ladies will swoon, that's all i have to say.
a quick note
mark gaudet's favorite bands of all time are deep purple and venom. just so you know what you're up against. mike ps - i played yan (my new houseguest. take a bow, yan) the first two kearney lake road albums. wAtch out!
WHICH windsor ...?
re: sloan + juliana hatfield are we talkin' windsor, ns, or windsor, ont? mike c. ps - straight up, len are coming to hfx to play during the pop explosion, but not at the pop explosion, if ya catch ma' drift. I think it's one o' them no case type deals. pps - any word on the number of all-ages type shows at the pop explosion? i was talking to amanda from plumtree and she said she had hears that there was only going to be ONE. whooah... lame-o LC. ppps - rumours abound that juliana hatfield is THIS close to playing at the birdland. that might be neat, seeing how the biggest out of town act to play has been (correct me if i'm wrong) die cheerleader this past weekend. and they ain't too big. s - shouldn't the pop explosion line-up be out? i thought james had said that we'd have it by now... ah well ...
SWERVEDRIVER review: NSC (was Re: hummm...)
On Sat, 26 Aug 1995, Gord Dimitrieff wrote: On Sat, 26 Aug 1995, Michael Damian Catano wrote: you're the girl for me / i'm son of jaguar 'e'. hey is this Swervedriver?! I was listening to their new album (what's it called? Ejectorseat something-or-other) in HMV the other day, but it was import for something like $25 or $30.. crazy.. the British pay *way* too much for CD's... Has it been released domestically yet? gord yep, gord, that little lyric was taken from ejector seat reservation, the snappy new record by british dreamrockers swervedriver. i picked up an import copy of the vinyl (with a free 2-song bonus 7) about a week or so ago, and it's pretty damn cool. first of all, it's VERY different from their first 2 records, but doesn't seem that bizarre if you've heard any of the e.p.'s that they've put out (like rave down, reel to real, etc.). it's VERY retro, in a neat sort of way ... it's got loads of harmonies and jangle. kind of like late-period beatles, with the tonnes of guitar overdubs, and strange string parts. very cool IMHO. it's definately not going to impress anyone who was soley into the sort of swirly, dreamy aspects of the band, or solely into the rock out aspects of the band, because neither of these qualities are at the forefront of the record - it's definately song orientated ... which is good. there are two weird sort of continuations of other swervedriver songs on the record: son of jaguar 'e' (from son of mustang ford off of raise) and the other jesus (from jesus off of reel to real). kind of a neat bonus for fans, i guess ... sort of like what a day and what a day maybe .. uhmm ... some stand-outs include last day on earth and the title track, but the songs over all are excellent. they are, in general, shorter and more upbeat than anything off of the previous two records. it's a definate winner as far as i'm concerned. on a sloan-esque note, i think people who dig twice removed could really enjoy this record. check it out if you can. unfortunately, swervedriver have been dropped by creation (they fucking suck ... first my bloody valentine, then slowdive, now swervedriver ... what the fuck kind of crack they on?) so distrobution as far as n. america goes is iffy. their is no word as to their status on am records (their label outside of the uk), so no one knows what is going on as far as a n. american release date. it ad been slated for release on our side of the ocean for mid-august, but there has been no sign of it. if you are a real fan, i would suggest getting a copy of the uk import, for the sole fact that you may never be able to get a domestic copy, PLUS, trhe uk cd comes with two hidden tracks: flaming heart and plan 7 star satellite 10 (the same two songs that are on the bonus 7 that comes with the 12). mike wheeew. sorry for the lack of sloanality. maybe i made up for it in banality.
Re: Moonsocket 7
On Fri, 25 Aug 1995, France Chevalier wrote: Uh, sorry to contradict you but I do bellieve it has NO title. france Yeah.. Loveless. oh, come on! she's kidding, right? right ...? *sigh* some people have no sense of humour. brendan scores mucho points for this one... mike rave down. On Fri, 25 Aug 1995, Helen Luu wrote: Does NE one know what the new Moonsocket 7 is called? Um, I think it's the one w/ the violet cover and has a picture of a guitar on the front.. Helen
Re: hear now '92 / e3
On Sun, 2 Jul 1995, Carol Nishitoba wrote: hey :) version of underwhelmed; kinda like the _peppermint_ one, but not quite... i like how they mention that chris played guitar, and patrick played bass for the song.. sean bryson, the drummer for Cool Blue Halo's track, is now it's the second recorded version of underwhelmed, and yep, chris plays guitar ... he played guitar for sloan for their first slew of gigs, i guess until patrick got fed up with having the bass shaft. this, btw, is why chris liner credits no smeared say he played erased guitar. funny .. haha. Leonard Conan, is now in the Super Friendz... anything else i should know about member changes?? hey, mighty wayne macpherson (who plays on two tracks on hear and now: spike n's full circle round and adinsong's song the name of which eludes me...) went on to be the guitar weilding superhero of chaz rules, and now is a full-fledged metal maniac for the j. masters quartet. mike, feeding the trivia beast ...
one champ says thanks...
it's very early in the morning on july 2nd, and i've got a few things to say. i'd like to give a really sincere thank you to everyone who came out and supported my band yesterday, i really appreciate it. we played three gigs in a day, and it was exhausting and everything like that, but it was really cool to see so many people out enjoying music on a crappy, rainy holiday. thanks to jim, james, tara lee and everyone who helped make our 7 actually happen, thanks to gordon, greg and catherine for giving us shows to play (and no, catherine, i did not forget to put you on the guest list, you just beat me to the birdland, i think...). so everything's cool, i guess... mike watching you fall only makes me stronger
Re: Sloan MOTOX shirt
On Thu, 29 Jun 1995, Andrew P. Rodenhiser wrote: motorcyle suits. The logo is like the suzuki S but says sloan. I DON'T HAVE ONE so please don't beat on me if I'm inaccurate. Anyone who does should have posted by now. Thus I'd say they're rather uncool because nobody bought them. :) i think that they are more expensive than uncool (30 or 40 buxxx?), plus, the appeal of yellow polyester kind of wears thin. very ... rave? mike
Re: hardship post
On Tue, 30 May 1995, Rebecca F Snyder wrote: haD a silver cover and it's blue vinyl. SO is the sandpaper one limited or something. I'm just curious and if anyone knows couldthey please tell 1st pressing: sandpaper sleeves and CalciumLimeRust vinyl. 2nd pressing: silver gift wrap sleeves and swanky blue vinyl. miek
state champs tour
hey everybody, les champs are heading out onto the road on thursday morning, so if you live in boston or northamton, you can see us live and in person at: -the middle east, may 14th (boston) -tt the bear's, may 20th (boston) -baystate hotel, may 21st (n.hampton) listmanagerMAN, james covey will be our roadie and we'll be meeting up w/ lister yan raymond in boston. it should be wicked. many cool bands, many cool shows, many good times. it's gonna be a freakin' beer ad, i tell ya'. mike
Re: hardship post
On Sat, 15 Apr 1995, James R. Covey wrote: um, sorry to argue with *you*, tarababe, but the version you have on tape *may be* the bnw version and so that's why you may notice a difference. so there. :-) i still insist that it's the same on vinyl as it is on the tape until someone proves me wrong. :-) james it's the same version. the 1st hardship post tape that i got had mood ring plus sugar cane and i think one or two other songs (i can't remember...) that weren't on either. it was all recorded at the same time, and they are the same recordings that are on the tape and 7. see ya mike
Re: The Yanx and Canux
On Fri, 31 Mar 1995, Joe Clark wrote: But don't French, German, and especially Australian bands also have french and german bands generally sing in french and german. this would probably marginalize their appeal in north america. marginal appeal aux États-Unis? Midnight Oil and Hoodoo Gurus aren't at the ttime of their deisel and dust lp, midnight oil were quite possibly one of the most popular pop bands in the world. they did not, however, keep up with the tide of public fancy, so their sun faded. They still, however, have lots of fans. exactly as big as the Stolling Rhônes, though Crowded House does figure in the rolling stones have been around since the sixties. they appeared in america at a time when british music was being embraced as a change from the simplistic, sterile pop that america was producing a the time. What we are seeing now is a backlash in terms of popularity of foreign bands in america. the culture (in terms of mainstream rock) has been so overewhelmed in terms of brit pop straight through to the eighties, when every band wanted to be british (duranduran, the cure, etc,etc), that there is now a strong movement to make american misic. The fact that the rolling stones still have popularity is because they are a leftover from a bygone era - a british band these days would have little chance of having such a succesful career in america (elastica, oasis, blur, etc). Crowded house (who started out in the eighties) have managed to slip into mainstream consciousness at the tail end of this eighties brit pop appreciation. That explains why they have managed to keep a rather steady fan base (although have any of their records reached temple of lo Men in terms of sucess since that time?). because of this backlash towards foreign music canadian mnusic (which is by definition NOT american - no matter how hard some might try) can not suceed as canadian music in the US. the only two canadian acts in recent years to acheive sucess in the US have been the crash test dummies and bryan adams - both of which recorded theit albums in america for american labels, etc, etc, and have down played their canadian-ness. BTW, I'm happy to give props to Canadian bands in Canada. A lot of Canadian no, joe, i get the props, and you get the buttocks. bands are happy with that too. Who needs the Americans? And heck, we can you (and others) seem to be confusing mainstream sucess and independant sucess. they are apples and oranges. most of the sucessful canadian indie bands (bands on canadian indie labels) are not in positions to quit whatever jobs they have currently outside of music, and very few ever will be. Most american indie bands still have to have day jobs as well. To compare the level of sucess that say Pest 5000 have with someone like seBADoh is ludicrous. derivative don't have the resources of subpop to promote their bands or send their bands on tour. in order to stay totally independant, and to be able to support yourselves and your bands as well takes a lot of time. Candada does not have the network of independant distribution, independant record stores, 'zine culture, plus the geography of the country makes it virtually impossible to tour effectively. for a band in canada to even come close to matching the success of a popular american independant is very doubtful IMHO. Don't get me wrong - i'd love to see this happen, it would be great if such a community were to develop, but it seems that most of canada's more popular indie bands are content to sign to majors asap, or to go with US indie labels - actions that are detrimental to the integrity of a canadian scene. build our own communities or proto-communities, like SloanNet. it's a start, but 150 records sold does not a career make. it'll take a lot more than a sloan net to make indie music viable in a canadian context. If there were sloan nets in every region of canada documenting every single scene (no matter how marginal or insignificant) then we might be getting somewhere, but it would seem that there isn't, so we've got a long way to go. miek Joe Clark [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~~~
Re: BEST DRESSED ASSHOLES
On Thu, 23 Mar 1995, scott hutchens wrote: 2) Do you think they should have taken all the money and invested it in CHED instead of Potmaster, as their second venture? Why? Odds are, I would think anyway, that they only made enough profit off D:FR to really get one other album under way, for now, so why shouldn't that band be Potmaster? well, fr starters, it seems like it was never made clear wether or not the investors were signing up for a long term investment into the co-op or what. this is stuff that should have been spoken of. if it is in fact a co-op, then by definition, no decisions that would affect the group as a whole (i.e. SPENDING ALL OF THE MONEY) should be made unilateraly. regardless of whose idea the whole thing was, if the project was designed as a collective or co-op, then they withdrew all rights to priority. the fact that the potboys were involved in the organization aspect of the comp, as well as reaping all immediate results from it make it look very fishy. it is obvious that there was a lack of communication between BDR and the bands involved. $100 to appear on a comp CASSETTE is fucking ludicrous. they should've taken note and asked who is ripping us off here?. but what's done is done. Having a local company interested only in helping local talent put out albums is a fantastic thing, but there are a lot of local bands to help out and all of them can't be helped at once. They have to start somewhere... and that starting point has to be well picked in order to get the whole operation on solid ground. Perhaps they just felt that Potmaster was their surest investment as a second release. i would be really really really really amazed if BDR managed to be the philanthropist organization you make it out to be. i doubt they are in it to help out the poor put upon rockers of nfld. most smaller record companies are a lot shadier than big ones. rememeber that. mike One thing I can tell you for sure, telling people to copy the tape instead of buying it isn't going to help anyone. scott /-\ | scott hutchens [EMAIL PROTECTED]/[EMAIL PROTECTED] | \-/ / in times of shame and rage, we change and stay the same, we rage and \ | blame, and everything we've built, I want to bury it, it's bleedin' | | with our guilt - BUNG | \-http://web.cs.mun.ca/~scottmh/home.html-/
Re: de, not du
just my $.02 on the de/du controversy ... as it it was myself who originally referred to sloan net as Les Ami(e)s de Sloan i think that i should have final say in the matter. teehee ... ;) i'm kidding, really, but in reality du makes better grammatical sense from a French POV. de sounds better when transposed into english, but i don't think it's good French when translated. du wins. du basically means a peice of the whole, like i want a peice of cake or something like that. since sloan net does not represent the entirity of sloan's fanbase (thank god for that) it is appropriate to say du. mike
Re: spine on muchmusic
just a little tidbit of industry info re: mucheast. apparantly mr. campbell and the bigwigs at muchmusic/city tv have come to the realization that he is underequiped to handle the full spectrum of east coast music. an as yet undisclosed new videographer will be making the trip from TO to HFX shortly and will focus solely on east coast rock music, whereas mike campbell will now be working solely on traditional music. this means that there will be more of a balance between the two on the show, whereas before it was all of one or the other. hopefully the new guy will have a clue about indie rock, and will be able to do a better job than campbell did. my gripe: with the wealth of TV/folm people in the maritimes (eg, mike clattenburg, steve comeau, michael andreas kuttner, john dunsworth, etc, etc ad nauseum) why on earth does MM/CTYTV feel the need to add YET another upper canadian to the mix? why not go local - someone who would already be in touch w/ the scene. duh. mike
Re: motes
On Fri, 10 Mar 1995, DAVID POUND wrote: What is this about Catano arguing with a girl about the rules if rock on the Motes tape? the intro to the second side is an excerpt from a phone converstaion i had over the air at CKDU during my show with some girl name lorraine. she called up to complain about me dissing pearl jam - saying that it was the cool thing to do, and accusing me of being the type to like them when the last album came out, 'cause it was cool to like pearl jam then. she was dumb beyond belief, and i had a nice little argument with her. my girlfreind said i was mean. anyways, the little snippet goes something like this: me: what i'm saying is that if you're going to say something, you should at least live up to it. her: but rock and roll doesn't have any rules me: that's the stupidest thing i've ever heard in my life. of course it has rules, sure they may be unwritten, but they exist. her: no. so you're a conformist. me: i guess so. i guess i'm a big dumb conformist, and i don't know nothin' 'bout nobody. it breaks into the end of me at this point. mike ps - they have a couple copies of gesner down at sam's on barrington.
Re: random garble...
On Mon, 27 Feb 1995, Tara Lee Bitchin' wrote: some Black Pool stuff features Chris on bass Kearney Lake Rd is chris and jay Snob Shop (chris helped out, it's laura borealis' project thing, i guess - email shant or tara da costa for more details) and check out the otis haynes song on `not if i smell you first', the sonic unyon compilation. Patrick and Chris are responsible for that mess :) :) - it's a real *rocker*. well, if we're gonna get nit-picking, they friggin' deluxe boys had a tape too, so there. :P mike
sloan discography mistake
in my haste i forgot: -Never mind the molluscs - 4 band comp. cd/2x 7 -cod can't hear - live comp. sorry. mike
Re: random garble...
On Mon, 27 Feb 1995, IAN JOSEPH DAYE wrote: hey people... i have a couple questions and am seeking answers( obviously)...although as i write it'll probably become more like 5-109 questions..but all are answerable and important(at least to me...) 3) Here's something totally useless to the rest of the world...but about 6 yrs ago there were two guys kicked out of St. Pat's in Halifax for wearing kilts to school, they were subsequently interviewed on CBC news and ifor some God awful, unknown reason i keep thinking it was two of the guys from Sloan...am I right ?(it is something they would've done) or am I just a pit of useless memories??? nope, it wasn't them. the kids were from QEH (my home turf) and i actually have the footage of the whole caffufle from CBC on tape somewhere. They were big punk rockers and my friend neil's big sister rachel used to date one of them. chris went to hfx west high school, jay went to private school, andrew went to dartmouth high, but transfered to QEH to play basketball (i swear to god. it was the cool thing for dartmouth jocks to do in their senior year.), and i have no idea where pat went to school. I don't think they were punks by any stretch of the imagination in HS (chris loved minor threat, tho...). In some more usless gossip, rachel (neil's big sister, remember?) went on to date jay a couple of years later. she says he was really nice. 4) I purchased copies of Pearl Jam Ten andVs. on vinyl as well as the new R.E.M. monster on vinyl as well...but the big thing i found (at least to me in the great white north...Cape Breton) was SLoan 2R' and H.C.G. on viyl...its not really a question just a statement of how much Sydney music stores suck... do they suck for carrying vinyl, or for carrying PJ and REM, or do you suck for buying it? I don't understand ;) 5) Did anyone see the No-Cases stuff on MuchEast a week or so ago...how did it look??? no idea, but did anyone catch ET, stinkin' rich and the gracebabies last night on ME? 7) lastly (I hope) can someone out there compile a COMPLETE listing of all the albums and singles that exist for Sloan...Tribute albums, 45's full length etc...if it was already here i probably missed it i got nothing else to do, so i'll give it a shot. the sloan discography (rough draft) -three song(?) four-track demo tape (1st version of underwhelmed and be my valentine (blood) - which became torn) -hear and now compilation cassette and cd (2nd version of underwhelmed) -peppermint e.p. (3rd version of underwhelmed) -smeared lp (4th version of underwhelmed) -Underwhelmed cd single -sugartune promo cd -back to the garden joni mitchell tribute cd -i am the cancer cd single -sloan/eric's trip split 7 -DGC rarities vol. I cd compilation -National Chart magazine promo flexi -twice removed lp -new murder records 7 please feel free to add to this list. mike oh well that's is enough thinking for today...off to class now.. I found my friends,they're in my head... Ian Daye :)
Re: sloan have *not* broken up...
certain members have different views on what purpose they want the band to serve. they are talking it out - group therapy as it were. they are by NO means broken up, and they don't plan on it. xoxo catano
Re: intended for sloan net
On Tue, 6 Dec 1994, Gord Dimitrieff wrote: Well no, but you can tell that they spent all of the 100,000 on recording.. It sounds way more produced than fireman... actually, they spent 40g on new gear. wow, wouldn't that be fun ... new gear ... *drool*drool*drool* they also recorded in cali, which means that they had to travel to cali and stray there for however long it took them to record. mike
Re: intended for sloan net
On Wed, 7 Dec 1994, Andrew P. Rodenhiser wrote: }they also recorded in cali, which means that they had to travel to cali }and stray there for however long it took them to record. I had to ask, Mike, in what manner did they stray while in Cali? Did they enter an underworld of crime, drugs, and prostitution? Did they wander unsuspectingly off the public beach and into the adjacent nudist colony? Or did they get lost in South Central LA? :) actually, they saw some guy get killed by the mob while they were taking a short cut home through so. central, and had to spend the rest of the night caught up in a seemy underworld, avoiding imminant death, all to a soundtrack that rolling stone magazine would call groundbreaking and compelling and give four stars, ~ ¯¯ -- This music *speaks* to me!!-- Steve Martin, _The Jerk_ Andrew P. Rodenhiser, Ph.D. Candidate [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dalhousie University, Halifax, N.S., Canada or [EMAIL PROTECTED]
len/entrafis/street cent$
the hipsters at CBC have pulled a smoothie once again with their choice of Toronto based Len and Halifax's own Entrafis as the music of choice for this season of street cent$. Len and Entrafis join the ranks of Halifax's Thrush Hermit and Truro's Hip Club Groove as independant canadian bands who have provided the music for the show. hopefully the same success that has fallen upon the former theme musicians will come to Len and Entrafis. wow, that sounded pretty slick, eh? mike c.
murder
Does anyone understand why Murder doesn't put out full-length lp's? I can't figure it out... Is it a cost thing? I'm confused... HCG recorded about eleven killer songs last yuear, but only about six are going to be released on Murder...I can't figure it out. And what ever happened to the Smart Bomb 12 with a bonus track? And is everything they do now going to be tatooed with MCA RECORDS on it? Arew they one of those subsidiary type deals now? XmikeX
Re: Sloan, Pepsi and Eric's Trip
My god, Mark Gaudet is so blunted it is ridiculous. Funny M. Gaudet story fer y'all - AT the the Double Deuce a few years back I was standing around after a show talking with Chris Murphy and Mark Gaudet. They were talking about Mark's incredible puink rock roots (he was there when DC happened), and about all of the records that Mark has - it's absoloutely incredible, you name it, he has it in all available formats - and the subject of movies came up. Mark talked about all of these punk shows he had bootlegged, and Chris talked about weird seventies stuff. As a result they came to one of those heat of the moment conclusions that they should have a music movie fest. Here is a smidgen of that conversation: Wow! That will be great! Chris said in a fevered pitch, his glasses sliding seductively down the sweat-drenched bridge of his nose, I'm sooo excited to see all of that stuff you talked about! Before he replied, Mark adjusted himself against the barstool that was bearing the brunt of his weight. Yeah, he said softly, in that hushed tone that drove the girls wild, and when it's all over with, we can break out the hardcore stuff! Mark's face was alight with a boyish enthusiasm that was uncharacteristic of this seasoned warrior. He hiccuped and took another drag off of his cigarette. Hardcore? Chris was curious now. Ppuzzled, but entranced, You mean like Minor Threat? Chris convinced himself that this was true, and in this, he was content. No...I mean...HARDcore! Mark emphasized what he meant with appropriate grunts, facial contortions, and hand gestures, You know what I mean? he slurred excitedly. Chris was shocked. Stunned. UmmmI don't think my mom would like that too much. In an instant, he was gone. Mike English 1000.06R Catano q talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] help! æ)
