Re: [SLUG] Segmentation Fault
When this caught me I sent a rant to this mailing list, so have a look in the archive. Whoops, the Linux archive :-) http://www.linuxsa.org.au/mailing-list/2003-03/289.html -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Problem with httpd
Thanks for everyone contributed to my query. My Apache server is lightning fast now. ~mahen On Mon, 2003-06-16 at 17:49, Mehmet Yousouf wrote: Could be a multitude of things - Collect some data first like... Is it slow from an external source (ie wan) only? Try viewing the pages locally (on the server) Have you tried using tcpdump to see what is happening? **Is it a nameserver problem? How big are the pages? Are both domains equally as slow? Is it faster if you just enter an ip into the browser? What sort of pages are you serving up (static, flash, php )? Is there a database invoved? Does the server eventually serve the right domain pages? Was it working properly at any stage? Regards, Mehmet El 4Love ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote*: Hi All, I have some problem with Apache web server. Apache responds to requests rather slowly, where it hosts two name virtual hosts. Initially I noticed two error lines per request in ssl_error_log and now I have disabled ssl_module. Now I don't get that error message, but still the server is very slow. The following is the ping stats I get from my server from outside my local intranet. 20 packets transmitted, 20 received, 0% loss, time 19191ms rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 36.194/43.561/65.393/6.444 ms But when I benchmarked that with another server on the Internet, which works quite fast 21 packets transmitted, 20 received, 4% loss, time 20191ms rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 281.018/283.878/290.204/2.737 ms What could be the problem with the configuration of my server? Any suggestions? Thanks in advance Mahen -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] Partially comprehensible error message.
I connected the CD burner to the USB bus. I put in a data disk and typed mount -t iso9660 /dev/scd0/ /mnt/usbcd and was told mount: block device /dev/scd0 is write protected, mounting read-only I understand this---I'll have to change the read/write permissions. So, I unmounted the usbcd, put in an audio CD and typed the same command. and was told: mount: block device /dev/scd0 is write protected, mounting read-only I/O error: dev 0b:00, sector 64 isofs_read_super: bread failed, dev=0b:00, iso_blknum=16, block=16 mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/scd0, or too many mounted file systems. Well, I understand the first line. Can anyone explain the rest of the error message, please? Any help will be acted upon immediately. Regards, Bill Bennett. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Partially comprehensible error message.
On Tue, Jun 17, 2003 at 05:53:14PM +1000, Bill Bennett wrote: I connected the CD burner to the USB bus. I put in a data disk and typed mount -t iso9660 /dev/scd0/ /mnt/usbcd [...] So, I unmounted the usbcd, put in an audio CD and typed the same command. and was told: mount: block device /dev/scd0 is write protected, mounting read-only I/O error: dev 0b:00, sector 64 isofs_read_super: bread failed, dev=0b:00, iso_blknum=16, block=16 mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/scd0, or too many mounted file systems. Well, I understand the first line. Can anyone explain the rest of the error message, please? Not sure regarding the permissions (I've never burnt a CD under linux), but that error message makes sense. Audio CDs aren't in iso9660 format, and so can't be mounted like that (if you want to read an audio CD, cdparanoia is your best bet). -Andrew. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Partially comprehensible error message.
Hey. On Tue, 17 Jun 2003 17:53:14 +1000 Bill Bennett wrote: I connected the CD burner to the USB bus. I put in a data disk and typed mount -t iso9660 /dev/scd0/ /mnt/usbcd and was told mount: block device /dev/scd0 is write protected, mounting read-only I understand this---I'll have to change the read/write permissions. I'm afraid burning CDs isn't that easy. You have to mount it read-only to read files, and use CD burning software (my personal favourite is still xroast) to write to it. If you mount it with a command like # mount -t iso0996 -o ro /dev/scd0 /mnt/usbcd then you won't get the error. The -o switch passes options to mount, ro specifies read-only. Check the man page for mount for other options you can use. So, I unmounted the usbcd, put in an audio CD and typed the same command. Audio CDs don't work like that either - they can't be mounted at all. To play them, just configure your CD player to use /dev/scd0. Use a program like cdparanoia to rip tracks and convert them to .wav files. -- Pete -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Problem with httpd
On 17 Jun 2003 15:51:53 +0800 El 4Love wrote: Thanks for everyone contributed to my query. My Apache server is lightning fast now. Just out of curiosity, what was the problem? -- Pete -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] Building an Intranet BIND
G'day SLUGers. I had a dynamic IP from my ADSL and its connected with a router, it has build in firewall, port forwarding, etc. The idea is to get the internal network able to open local apache web server when they type myserver.mydomain.bom (yes, its mydomain.bom) But for all other web browsing, hopefully the router is kind enough to pass it. I configured my named.conf with other files (named.local, named.mydomain.bom and named.mydomain.bom.rev) I test it with my win2k to get the gateway from the router and DNS server from the BIND linux box. The result is, I can open myserver.mydomain.bom, but I can't open any other web sites. The funny thing is that even I can open myserver.mydomain.bom for the apache, I can't open myserver.mydomain.bom:1 (webmin) the error is that I'm not authorized to open this page. Can somebody tell me what went wrong? Thanks, Phillip. __ Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! http://sbc.yahoo.com -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] Notice of meeting to form ComputerBank Sydney
[Apologies to anyone who gets this multiple times, we're going for maximum exposure here] After concerns were raised over the lack of public notice, the meeting to organise the formation of ComputerBank Sydney has been postponed until Saturday, 28 June, 2003. The meeting will be held commencing at 2:00pm. As a kind of lets get the most use out of this day as we can, we'll be holding a general hacking day as well, where we'll play with hardware, software builds, and whatever else comes to mind. Playtime will commence at 9:30 (or whenever Dan drags his sorry arse out of bed). The location for all of this frivolity? Unit 32, 195 Prospect Hwy, Seven Hills. It's a secure unit complex with big chunky scary gates, which may be open or closed. If they're open, more power to ya. If not, call Dan on his mobile telephonic communicator, 0410 526 200, and petition to be allowed access to the magic kingdom. -- --- #include disclaimer.h Matthew Palmer, Geek In Residence http://ieee.uow.edu.au/~mjp16 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] courier
After going to the pub, I made it home and quickly had a look. Sure enough, no c++ compiler was installed. There was a common compiler as well as g++, but g++ sounds good, so I've gone with that. The version showed with the command you suggested after I had installed it. So I'm letting it configure while I sleep and hopefully it will be ready for me to have fun with make next. Thanks Rob T On Tuesday 17 June 2003 09:03, Matt M wrote: GCC is only a C Compiler. What you need to compile C++ is g++, the GNU C++ compiler. Most distributions package this separately to GCC. You can see whether or not you have a C++ compiler installed by entering (I think ... It's been a while) `c++ --version' at the command line. HTH, Matt At 08:50 17/06/2003, Robert Tillsley wrote: Hi Guys I downloaded and tried to install courier 0.42.2 from source on my Suse 8.1 system. I discovered I didn't have a compiler, so installed gcc 3.2 from CD(using the suse setup software). I had unzipped as root, so it had to delete what I'd unzipped, logged in as a standard user, battled with file permissions and then untarred. When I run ./configure it goes for a long time and then has the following errors: Checking for c++ compiler default output configure: error: C++ compliter cannot create executables. configure: error: c++ : /bin/sh: /configure failed for module.local configure: error: c++ : /bin/sh: /configure failed for courier I was wondering if people could suggest what I should be looking to fix. Is it a problem with gcc or with courier. I'm thinking with gcc as I didn't choose anything special with the ./configure. Perhaps I might try installing something else and see if similar problems arise. Regards Rob T * This mail, including any attached files may contain confidential and privileged information for the sole use of the intended recipient(s). Any review, use, distribution or disclosure by others is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended receipient (or authorised to receive information for the recipient), please contact the sender by reply e-mail and delete all copies of this message. * -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Performance Issues on an older machine
Hai I ran Mandrake 7.1-8 on a crappy P1 166 with 32mb of ram and your just overloading your system. Linux is very deceptive it will allow you to overload the hell out of your system and still work but things just get slower. I could get my old P1 166 to load Mandrake 8 in under 30 seconds to the GUI. So how did I do it. 1. Check what services your running moneys on your running services that have no use to you, and Mandrake is great at turning services on that you never use. You can check what services are running under drakconf services are under the system menu.Also I used to disable the hardware detection on bootup I found this recovered about 10 seconds alone. 2. Forget the KDE and Gnome GUI your wasting your time with a 200mhz machine try either XFCE or Icewm or something that isn't as intensive as Gnome or KDE. You might want to look at getting rid of the fancy graphical login too. I used blackbox (GUI)for a whole year and I could get it to boot up after login on a P1 166 in less than 15 seconds. Hope this helps Richard Neal -- GPLG GPLGPLGP GPLGPLGPLGP GPLGP GPL MICROSOFT GPLGP GPLGPLGPLGP GPLGPLGPL GPLGPL On Sun, 2003-06-15 at 17:34, Beej Bassman wrote: Hi all. I've got an old machine that used to have Linux Red Hat 7.1 on it as a stand-alone machine. I had to return to the World of Windows for work purposes, but have finally lost patience with it after IE6 crashed 6 times in 1.5hrs while trying to redesign a web site. I have since reinstalled both Red Hat 7.1 and Mandrake 8, but both of these are so painfully slow I have had to reinstall Windows to get some productivity back. The big stats are: The machine: Model: HP Vectra 400VE Processor: Intel Pentium 200MHz MMX RAM: 128MB HDD: 2GB (with such a small HDD I've been forced to completely wipe the drive and have only the one OS on there at a time, which i can live with) The History: - Originally ran Win NT 4.0 for work purposes - Installed Red Hat 7.1 stand alone -worked fine - Installed Win98SE - Installed 3Com 3C905B PCA 10/100NIC and SB ISA soundcard -worked fine - Reinstalled Red Hat 7.1 -poor performance - Installed Mandrake 8.0 - poor performance - Reinstalled Win98SE -works as well as it can (good performance but terrible stability) The problems: - Booting takes approx. 3-5mins from power on to login screen, then about 2mins to desktop - Menu performance slow -approx 10-20sec response time - Applications slow to open: 45-60sec for browser, 20-30sec for Home directory, to log off took about 1min etc - Network detections doesn't work: 15sec timeout from Drakconf under Mandrake - Internet connection OK, but loading time slow: approx 30sec for Google to load after finding site - Sound doesn't work, but that's no big problem, I can live without sound. When I ran Red Hat as a stand-alone, none of these problems were apparent: booting was about 1min from power on to desktop, menus and applications appeared fine, and I didn't have a SOHO network or I'net connection, so the other two were not an issue. I can guess the cause is the new NIC and sound card, but how do I increase performance: - Is there a way to limit the processes that need to load but still have an OK machine? - Will physically removing the sound card help? I want to still use the I'net so removing the NIC is not an option - I have a choise of distro to install: RH6.2, 7.1 and 8, as well as Mandrake 7.2, 8 and 9. Will installing one of these help with performance? - Is there something else that could help that I haven't thought of? -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] Is this something of Interest ?
This might interest you to know. http://www.nytimes.com/reuters/technology/tech-tech-linux.html -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] Building an Intranet BIND
Phillipus == Phillipus Gunawan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Phillipus G'day SLUGers. I had a dynamic IP from my ADSL and its Phillipus connected with a router, it has build in firewall, port Phillipus forwarding, etc. The idea is to get the internal network Phillipus able to open local apache web server when they type Phillipus myserver.mydomain.bom (yes, its mydomain.bom) But for all Phillipus other web browsing, hopefully the router is kind enough to Phillipus pass it. Does your bind forward non-local queries to your ISP's nameserver? You need a `forwarders' directive in /etc/bind/named.conf Then make sure that /etc/resolv.conf on all your machines points to the machine running bind. (Don't know how to do that in Windows --- if you're using dhcp though, you can set it up in /etc/dhcpd.conf) As for your webmin problem... Have you set up reverse DNS? depending on how you've set up your web server, it may be looking at the IP address of the query, doing a reverse lookup and not then getting anything that's authorised. -- Dr Peter Chubb http://www.gelato.unsw.edu.au peterc AT gelato.unsw.edu.au You are lost in a maze of BitKeeper repositories, all slightly different. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] getting rid of eth0: switching to forced 100bt messages toconsole.
Hi all, I get the message: eth0: switching to forced 100bt eth0: switching to forced 10bt on the console when I bootup or when I exit X and go to a console. Presuming that these came from syslogd I have edited syslog.conf and commented out all notices, warnings etc to the console. /etc/syslog.conf . # NOTE: adjust the list below, or you'll go crazy if you have a # reasonably busy site.. # # MRL 16 Jun: commented out the lines below to stop warning messages: # eth0: switching to forced 100bt messages to console. #daemon.*;mail.*;\ # news.crit;news.err;news.notice;\ # *.=debug;*.=info;\ # *.=notice;*.=warn |/dev/xconsole I did a HUP of syslogd and since then I have rebooted but I am still getting that message on the console AND in /var/log/messages so I presume its not coming from syslogd. Google shows a few posts from yellowdog linux about : The thing that also bites, is that if you use the SunGEM driver, and the laptop is not connected to anything, it will spit out: Oct 16 20:17:01 mafalda kernel: eth0: switching to forced 100bt Oct 16 20:17:08 mafalda kernel: eth0: switching to forced 10bt back and forth endlessly in /var/log/messages making the file get pretty big fairly quickly. The SunGEM docs mention a config file, but I have yet But this donesnt apply to me I dont think. Apparently via google SunGem is an eth driver chip. I dont have any mention of SunGem in my .config for my kernel. Machine is Ti Powerbook and Debian stable. Any Ti P/B users here have this prob ? Mike Lake Caver, Linux enthusiast and interested in anything technical. UTS CRICOS Provider Code: 00099F DISCLAIMER This email message and any accompanying attachments may contain confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, do not read, use, disseminate, distribute or copy this message or attachments. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete this message. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender, except where the sender expressly, and with authority, states them to be the views the University of Technology Sydney. Before opening any attachments, please check them for viruses and defects. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Is this something of Interest ?
On Wed, 18 Jun 2003, Oscar Plameras wrote: http://www.nytimes.com/reuters/technology/tech-tech-linux.html There's no point in posting things from the NYTimes, because it requires registration to get in. If it's really important, at least post some sort of prece so we can decide whether to waste time registering or not. -- --- #include disclaimer.h Matthew Palmer, Geek In Residence http://ieee.uow.edu.au/~mjp16 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Is this something of Interest ?
You may register it is free. You have the choice. So, don't worry too much ! On Wed, 18 Jun 2003, Oscar Plameras wrote: http://www.nytimes.com/reuters/technology/tech-tech-linux.html There's no point in posting things from the NYTimes, because it requires registration to get in. If it's really important, at least post some sort of prece so we can decide whether to waste time registering or not. -- --- #include disclaimer.h Matthew Palmer, Geek In Residence http://ieee.uow.edu.au/~mjp16 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Is this something of Interest ?
On Wed, 2003-06-18 at 10:18, Oscar Plameras wrote: You may register it is free. I think the point which Matthew was making was that it would be nice to mention what the article is about. That way they could decide for themselves if it is worth registering for or not, it's just good netiquette. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Is this something of Interest ?
On Wed, 18 Jun 2003, Oscar Plameras wrote: You may register it is free. I'm well aware of that. But there has been no compelling reason why I should register. What's the article about? You have the choice. So, don't worry too much ! I'm well aware I have the choice. I'm just letting you know that posting URLs that can't be viewed without jumping through hoops is largely useless - a waste of your time, and the bandwidth of SLUG and every subscriber. The few people who are already subscribed are more likely to be reading the article anyway, and so will know about it, and with nothing more than a URL to go on, why should the rest of us put our jumping boots on? -- --- #include disclaimer.h Matthew Palmer, Geek In Residence http://ieee.uow.edu.au/~mjp16 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Is this something of Interest ?
On Wed, Jun 18, 2003 at 10:18:29AM +1000, Oscar Plameras wrote: You may register it is free. Yes it costs you no money, but it costs you time, privacy etc. You have the choice. So, don't worry too much ! But not an informed choice. For all we know it could be something obscure. Links without comment will have one of four effects on people: 1) Click on the link, register, XYZ is good. (+1 oscar rules) 2) Why is this Oscar guy posting links without commenrts ? (delete, +2 ignore oscar posts) 3) Click on the link, register, don't care about XYZ (+ 10 ignore oscar posts and/or flame) 4) See that the link is nytimes, don't bother but find out later that it would have been nice to know earlier (+1 oscar sux) It is generally polite to post some sort of summary of the link. interesting is too vague/subjective a term funny is borderline, but generally OT (off topic) for this list. e.g. for your article: Linus leaves Transmeta to work on Kernel Full-Time. http://www.nytimes.com/reuters/technology/tech-tech-linux.html For things like NYtimes it is polite to add (free registration required yada yada). Also maybe some/all of the article depending on your understanding/respect of copyright laws. cheers, Woody On Wed, 18 Jun 2003, Oscar Plameras wrote: There's no point in posting things from the NYTimes, because it requires registration to get in. If it's really important, at least post some sort of prece so we can decide whether to waste time registering or not. -- --- #include disclaimer.h Matthew Palmer, Geek In Residence http://ieee.uow.edu.au/~mjp16 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug -- Woody -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Is this something of Interest ?
Oscar Plameras wrote: You may register it is free. You have the choice. So, don't worry too much ! You have to supply your e-mail address, demographic information (country, zip code, age, sex; household income, industry, job title, job function, and must agree to the terms of their Subscriber Agreement. I wonder Oscar, have you actually read their Subscriber Agreement ? Its at the very bottom of the page in smaller font where you click submit. Come on Oscar fess up, you didnt read it did you :-) I have made a personal decision not to subscribe to any of these places that request such information and I suggest that ppl do read those agreements. What happens if the place files for Chap 11 in the States; who will then buy the company; what will they do with your information? It happens. I can get all the news I want from 'freeer' sources. http://www.nytimes.com/reuters/technology/tech-tech-linux.html There's no point in posting things from the NYTimes, because it requires registration to get in. If it's really important, at least post some sort of prece so we can decide whether to waste time registering or not. Also just a short paragraph included from the article would help sluggers here to decide if they wanted to click on it - especially if they are on a dialup from home. These news sites are notorious for bandwidth sucking. -- Mike Lake Uni of Technol., Sydney UTS CRICOS Provider Code: 00099F DISCLAIMER This email message and any accompanying attachments may contain confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, do not read, use, disseminate, distribute or copy this message or attachments. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete this message. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender, except where the sender expressly, and with authority, states them to be the views the University of Technology Sydney. Before opening any attachments, please check them for viruses and defects. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Is this something of Interest ?
From: Tony Green [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Wed, 2003-06-18 at 10:18, Oscar Plameras wrote: You may register it is free. I think the point which Matthew was making was that it would be nice to mention what the article is about. That way they could decide for themselves if it is worth registering for or not, it's just good netiquette. The article is about Linus Torvalds joining as a fellow at OSDL an Organization supported by IBM, HP, Sun, CA, Fujitsu, Hitachi, Intel, etc. leaving his current job at Transmeta on indefinite leave. What is interesting to me is taht the announcement comes a day after SCO has said it revoked IBM's right to use and distribute software based on Unix. Incidentally, I do not agree that it is more ethical or less ethical to provide an info link with or without a brief. It is one of those many choices that we have to make everyday. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Is this something of Interest ? - flame time! ;)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 18-06-2003 10:57:32 AM: On Wed, Jun 18, 2003 at 10:18:29AM +1000, Oscar Plameras wrote: --snip-- But not an informed choice. For all we know it could be something obscure. Links without comment will have one of four effects on people: 1) Click on the link, register, XYZ is good. (+1 oscar rules) 2) Why is this Oscar guy posting links without commenrts ? (delete, +2 ignore oscar posts) 3) Click on the link, register, don't care about XYZ (+ 10 ignore oscar posts and/or flame) 4) See that the link is nytimes, don't bother but find out later that it would have been nice to know earlier (+1 oscar sux) No Flames, but I would give oscar +10 ignore on the scale above as it is posted on /. (www.slashdot.org) with no registration needed. If went through the pain of registering with NYTimes and subsequently get their monthly newsletters (Or whatever crap is sent weekly/monthly to subscribers), because of a subject I am already educated on, I would be very unhappy. No Offence Oscar. Cheers, Scott -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Is this something of Interest ?
On Wed, Jun 18, 2003 at 11:05:11AM +1000, Michael Lake wrote: Also just a short paragraph included from the article would help sluggers here to decide if they wanted to click on it - especially if they are on a dialup from home. These news sites are notorious for bandwidth sucking. The title and a short paragraph is usually enough to quickly find a link from news.google.com to the article that doesn't require registering. (Or somewhere else that has the same article, I see according to the url, that this has a reuters source, so is probably available in quite a few places) -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Is this something of Interest ? - flame time! ;)
Or use news.google.com search word: linux. btw. when are we going to get a .au version of froogle.com? Cheers, -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Is this something of Interest ?
From: Michael Lake [EMAIL PROTECTED] Oscar Plameras wrote: You may register it is free. You have the choice. So, don't worry too much ! You have to supply your e-mail address, demographic information (country, zip code, age, sex; household income, industry, job title, job function, and must agree to the terms of their Subscriber Agreement. I wonder Oscar, have you actually read their Subscriber Agreement ? Its at the very bottom of the page in smaller font where you click submit. Come on Oscar fess up, you didnt read it did you :-) I have read the agreement actually. I trust NYTimes. They are a known quantity. I have made a personal decision not to subscribe to any of these places that request such information and I suggest that ppl do read those agreements. What happens if the place files for Chap 11 in the States; who will then buy the company; what will they do with your information? It happens. I can get all the news I want from 'freeer' sources. This is the good thing about the internet. It offers you alternative choices. Also just a short paragraph included from the article would help sluggers here to decide if they wanted to click on it - especially if they are on a dialup from home. These news sites are notorious for bandwidth sucking. Again, my policy is not to color the info that is available with my own interpretation and so it is 'telling it as it is' policy. You make your own judgement about news sites and I will not criticise you for that but I do not unless I am certain. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Is this something of Interest ? - flame time! ;)
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 18-06-2003 10:57:32 AM: On Wed, Jun 18, 2003 at 10:18:29AM +1000, Oscar Plameras wrote: --snip-- But not an informed choice. For all we know it could be something obscure. Links without comment will have one of four effects on people: 1) Click on the link, register, XYZ is good. (+1 oscar rules) 2) Why is this Oscar guy posting links without commenrts ? (delete, +2 ignore oscar posts) 3) Click on the link, register, don't care about XYZ (+ 10 ignore oscar posts and/or flame) 4) See that the link is nytimes, don't bother but find out later that it would have been nice to know earlier (+1 oscar sux) No Flames, but I would give oscar +10 ignore on the scale above as it is posted on /. (www.slashdot.org) with no registration needed. If went through the pain of registering with NYTimes and subsequently get their monthly newsletters (Or whatever crap is sent weekly/monthly to subscribers), because of a subject I am already educated on, I would be very unhappy. No Offence Oscar. No, I don't. Thank you. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Is this something of Interest ?
From: Colin Humphreys [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Wed, Jun 18, 2003 at 11:05:11AM +1000, Michael Lake wrote: Also just a short paragraph included from the article would help sluggers here to decide if they wanted to click on it - especially if they are on a dialup from home. These news sites are notorious for bandwidth sucking. The title and a short paragraph is usually enough to quickly find a link from news.google.com to the article that doesn't require registering. (Or somewhere else that has the same article, I see according to the url, that this has a reuters source, so is probably available in quite a few places) -- Simple idea but truly brilliant. I learn one more trick today. Thanks. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Is this something of Interest ?
From: Matthew Palmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'm well aware I have the choice. I'm just letting you know that posting URLs that can't be viewed without jumping through hoops is largely useless - a waste of your time, and the bandwidth of SLUG and every subscriber. The few people who are already subscribed are more likely to be reading the article anyway, and so will know about it, and with nothing more than a URL to go on, why should the rest of us put our jumping boots on? I cannot decide for you whether you should put up with it or not. This is precisely what I am avoiding. Making decisions for other people. Again, this is the good thing about the internet. You make your own choice and you make your own devices and I cannot decide for you one way or the other. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Is this something of Interest ? - flame time! ;)
you can use the site directive site:com.au note, that site:au doesn't/didn't work a few weeks back. I mentioned this too froogle.google and they said in short that they were working on it. On Wed, 18 Jun 2003 11:14:13 +1000 (EST), kmmartin wrote Or use news.google.com search word: linux. btw. when are we going to get a .au version of froogle.com? Cheers, -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug -- ramon buckland www.thebuckland.com -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Is this something of Interest ?
On Wed, 18 Jun 2003, Oscar Plameras wrote: I cannot decide for you whether you should put up with it or not. This is precisely what I am avoiding. Making decisions for other people. Again, this is the good thing about the internet. You make your own choice and you make your own devices and I cannot decide for you one way or the other. However, you can help other people to come to a decision by providing them with sufficient information to make an informed decision. You provided a URL, the content of which is hidden behind a privacy-invading registration process. How is anyone supposed to make a decision? Well, I did, by closing my browser window. -- --- #include disclaimer.h Matthew Palmer, Geek In Residence http://ieee.uow.edu.au/~mjp16 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] openoffice tickboxes
Hey, Anyone know how to put in a column of tick boxes into Open Office? I want to be able to have a column in Calc where I can just have tickboxes that save their state, so I can get a clear idea of whats ticked and whats not when I come back to it. Or maybe a better solution? I just want to mark things off in a list essentially Openoffice is my choice of platform as I can then get to the file cross platform. And I dont really want to have it on the web as I need to do it for lots of different files and situations. thanks dave -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Is this something of Interest ?
Mike suspected. :-) From: Michael Lake [EMAIL PROTECTED] I wonder Oscar, have you actually read their Subscriber Agreement ? Its at the very bottom of the page in smaller font where you click submit. Come on Oscar fess up, you didnt read it did you :-) Oscar Plameras wrote: I have read the agreement actually. I trust NYTimes. They are a known quantity. +1 to Oscar -1 to Mike as I was sure Oscar hadn't read it :-) So much for assumptions. Mike -- Mike Lake Uni of Technol., Sydney UTS CRICOS Provider Code: 00099F DISCLAIMER This email message and any accompanying attachments may contain confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, do not read, use, disseminate, distribute or copy this message or attachments. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete this message. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender, except where the sender expressly, and with authority, states them to be the views the University of Technology Sydney. Before opening any attachments, please check them for viruses and defects. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] openoffice tickboxes
On Wed, Jun 18, 2003 at 12:48:55PM +1000, Dave Kempe wrote: Hey, Anyone know how to put in a column of tick boxes into Open Office? Andrew H here (power excel user - openoffice beta 1.1/windows) says he couldn't work out how to do it - it didn't seem to do any sort of form controls like that. cheers, Woody -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Is this something of Interest ?
On Wed, Jun 18, 2003 at 12:56:29PM +1000, Michael Lake wrote: Mike suspected. :-) From: Michael Lake [EMAIL PROTECTED] I wonder Oscar, have you actually read their Subscriber Agreement ? Its at the very bottom of the page in smaller font where you click submit. Come on Oscar fess up, you didnt read it did you :-) Oscar Plameras wrote: I have read the agreement actually. I trust NYTimes. They are a known quantity. +1 to Oscar -1 to Mike as I was sure Oscar hadn't read it :-) So much for assumptions. Oh no, I've started a SLUG scoring system! I didn't mean to. Please, no-one implement this :-) +1 to Oscar for spending effort in posting the link in the first place +1 to people who've read this thread so far +5 to people who post links with summaries instead of bare in future +1 to Oscar,Mike,Me, etc if it's because of this thread. +1 to all who don't continue this thread except on SLUG-chat. cheers, Woody -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] Lotus Domino on Debian
Hi All, Just wondering if anyone has attempted to install Lotus Domino server on Debian Linux? We currently have it installed on Redhat 7.3, but as far as I can remember, its an rpm package. Two issues I have are: 1. Will Alien will do the trick converting the rpm to .deb, or some other rpm extraction utility? (The install is pretty basic from memory) 2. Will IBM look at us differently if mentioned it is running on Debian if/when I need to call for support (Even if the problem is unrelated to the OS), or should I always omit that fact? I would appreciate any suggestions. Cheers, Scott -- Scott Ragen Support Manager/IT Administrator Roadtech Systems www.roadtechsystems.com.au PH: +61 2 9807 3516 FAX: +61 2 9808 5294 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] Re:Is this something of Interest ?
Here is an open version of this story: http://www.itnews.com.au/storycontent.cfm?ID=10Art_ID=12228 It is about: Linux father Linus Torvalds is leaving microprocessor company Transmeta to work exclusively on Linux kernel development. On Tuesday, the Open Source Development Lab in the US announced that Torvalds will join that organisation as the first OSDL fellow. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] configure parent cache for squid
Hi, all: I'm trying to setup a personal squid proxy at work. The parent cache is a MS proxy server that requires authentication. How do I configure my squid so that it can log into the parent. I current configuration in squid.conf is cache_peer proxy.company.domain parent 80 0 login=company-domain\myname:mypasswd This doesn't seem to do the trick. Can anyone help me? Thanks, Xun. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] email attack?
I'm concerned that I'm being attacked in some way that I don't understand. I've checked my logs and found over 400 unknown user messages for [EMAIL PROTECTED]. Then I got the following MAILER-DAEMON email telling me the address is undeliverable. I can't figure out why I should suddenly get this one apparently inappropriate MAILER-DAEMON email. I am a legitimate relay for mydomain.com.au but user rjnr doesn't exist and never did. Their are also 2000 other unknown user messages for this particular domain in this week's log, so it looks like some spammer has targetted this domain. Am I worrying about nothing? [Woody/Postfix, btw] Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2003 08:50:56 +1000 (EST) From: Mail Delivery System [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Undelivered Mail Returned to Sender Parts/Attachments: 1 Shown 13 lines Text, Notification 2 Shown226 bytes Message, Delivery error report 3 Shown1.3 KB Message, Undelivered Message 3.1 Shown 22 lines Text This is the Postfix program at host fast.kenpro.com.au. I'm sorry to have to inform you that the message returned below could not be delivered to one or more destinations. For further assistance, please send mail to postmaster If you do so, please include this problem report. You can delete your own text from the message returned below. The Postfix program [EMAIL PROTECTED]: unknown user: rjnr [ Part 2: Delivery error report ] Reporting-MTA: dns; fast.kenpro.com.au Arrival-Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2003 08:50:55 +1000 (EST) Final-Recipient: rfc822; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Action: failed Status: 5.0.0 Diagnostic-Code: X-Postfix; unknown user: rjnr [ Part 2: Delivery error report ] Reporting-MTA: dns; fast.kenpro.com.au Arrival-Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2003 08:50:55 +1000 (EST) Final-Recipient: rfc822; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Action: failed Status: 5.0.0 Diagnostic-Code: X-Postfix; unknown user: rjnr [ Part 3: Undelivered Message ] Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2003 15:55:28 -0700 From: Mail Delivery Subsystem [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: MAILER-DAEMON Returned mail: User unknown The original message was received at 6/9/2003 3:55:27 PM -0100 [218.79.218.34] - The following addresses had permanent fatal errors - [EMAIL PROTECTED] (expanded from: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) - Transcript of session follows - mail.local: unknown Name: rjnr 550 [EMAIL PROTECTED]... User unknown Reporting-MTA: dns; mx1.mydomain.com.au Received-From-MTA: DNS; [218.79.218.34] Arrival-Date: Thu, 30 May 2002 01:14:32 -0600 Final-Recipient: RFC822; [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Actual-Recipient: RFC822; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Action: failed Status: 5.1.1 Last-Attempt-Date: 6/9/2003 3:55:27 PM -0100 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] email attack?
Im seeing similar stuff. Some spammer has set the reply-to address to [EMAIL PROTECTED] BB on Wed, Jun 18, 2003 at 03:25:01PM +1000, David [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm concerned that I'm being attacked in some way that I don't understand. I've checked my logs and found over 400 unknown user messages for [EMAIL PROTECTED]. Then I got the following MAILER-DAEMON email telling me the address is undeliverable. I can't figure out why I should suddenly get this one apparently inappropriate MAILER-DAEMON email. I am a legitimate relay for mydomain.com.au but user rjnr doesn't exist and never did. Their are also 2000 other unknown user messages for this particular domain in this week's log, so it looks like some spammer has targetted this domain. Am I worrying about nothing? [Woody/Postfix, btw] Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2003 08:50:56 +1000 (EST) From: Mail Delivery System [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Undelivered Mail Returned to Sender Parts/Attachments: 1 Shown 13 lines Text, Notification 2 Shown226 bytes Message, Delivery error report 3 Shown1.3 KB Message, Undelivered Message 3.1 Shown 22 lines Text This is the Postfix program at host fast.kenpro.com.au. I'm sorry to have to inform you that the message returned below could not be delivered to one or more destinations. For further assistance, please send mail to postmaster If you do so, please include this problem report. You can delete your own text from the message returned below. The Postfix program [EMAIL PROTECTED]: unknown user: rjnr [ Part 2: Delivery error report ] Reporting-MTA: dns; fast.kenpro.com.au Arrival-Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2003 08:50:55 +1000 (EST) Final-Recipient: rfc822; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Action: failed Status: 5.0.0 Diagnostic-Code: X-Postfix; unknown user: rjnr [ Part 2: Delivery error report ] Reporting-MTA: dns; fast.kenpro.com.au Arrival-Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2003 08:50:55 +1000 (EST) Final-Recipient: rfc822; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Action: failed Status: 5.0.0 Diagnostic-Code: X-Postfix; unknown user: rjnr [ Part 3: Undelivered Message ] Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2003 15:55:28 -0700 From: Mail Delivery Subsystem [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: MAILER-DAEMON Returned mail: User unknown The original message was received at 6/9/2003 3:55:27 PM -0100 [218.79.218.34] - The following addresses had permanent fatal errors - [EMAIL PROTECTED] (expanded from: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) - Transcript of session follows - mail.local: unknown Name: rjnr 550 [EMAIL PROTECTED]... User unknown Reporting-MTA: dns; mx1.mydomain.com.au Received-From-MTA: DNS; [218.79.218.34] Arrival-Date: Thu, 30 May 2002 01:14:32 -0600 Final-Recipient: RFC822; [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Actual-Recipient: RFC822; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Action: failed Status: 5.1.1 Last-Attempt-Date: 6/9/2003 3:55:27 PM -0100 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] email attack?
On Wed, Jun 18, 2003 at 03:25:01PM +1000, David wrote: I'm concerned that I'm being attacked in some way that I don't understand. I've checked my logs and found over 400 unknown user messages for [EMAIL PROTECTED]. Then I got the following MAILER-DAEMON email telling me the address is undeliverable. I can't figure out why I should suddenly get this one apparently inappropriate MAILER-DAEMON email. I am a legitimate relay for mydomain.com.au but user rjnr doesn't exist and never did. Their are also 2000 other unknown user messages for this particular domain in this week's log, so it looks like some spammer has targetted this domain. Am I worrying about nothing? Probably just a brute force spam attack. (dictionary or try every letter combination) -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Is this something of Interest ?
On Wed, Jun 18, 2003 at 10:57:32AM +1000, Anthony Wood wrote: On Wed, Jun 18, 2003 at 10:18:29AM +1000, Oscar Plameras wrote: You may register it is free. Yes it costs you no money, but it costs you time, privacy etc. You have the choice. So, don't worry too much ! Just to point out the obvious, but haven't you wasted more time complaining about it ? -- Woody -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
