[SLUG] FW: Blast: New RPC DCOM Vulnerability and Updated Scanners

2003-09-10 Thread Adam W
Title: Message



Sorry 
about the HTML.
 
For 
those admins that work with MS workstations:
 

-Original Message-From: eEye Digital Security 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, 11 September 2003 7:48 
AMTo: eEye Digital Security BlastSubject: Blast: New RPC 
DCOM Vulnerability and Updated Scanners

  
  

  


  
  
  

  

   

  
  
   

  
  

  September 10, 2003This email is used 
  to communicate timely security advisory information, new and 
  upcoming product development initiatives, network security 
  threat alerts, and any other time-sensitive information from 
  eEye Digital Security.We will do our best to provide 
  only very concise and straightforward information to stress 
  our consideration of your time and attention.
  
  Alert: New Windows® RPC DCOM 
  VulnerabilityMicrosoft has announced today a critical 
  remote vulnerability in Windows RPC request handling. 
  Microsoft and eEye have released a detailed advisory to alert 
  and inform Windows users of the need to immediately remediate 
  vulnerable machines on their networks.eEye Digital 
  Security Advisoryhttp://www.eeye.com/html/Research/Advisories/AD20030910.htmlMicrosoft 
  Patchhttp://www.microsoft.com/technet/treeview/?url="">Users 
  should note that this vulnerability differs from the 
  vulnerability publicized in Microsoft Bulletin MS03-026 found 
  here:http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/bulletin/MS03-026.asp
  
  eEye Releases Updated Free RPC DCOM 
  Vulnerability ScannereEye also announces the immediate 
  availability of a Retina® RPC Vulnerability Scanner to scan 
  for and detect this newly discovered RPC flaw. This tool is 
  based on eEye’s award-winning Retina® Network Security Scanner 
  and is being made available for free to assist IT 
  administrators in their efforts to quickly remediate this 
  vulnerability.http://www.eeye.com/html/Research/Tools/RPCDCOM.htmlRetina 
  Network Security Scanner has also been updated to address this 
  newly discovered vulnerability. The RPC vulnerability testing 
  methodology utilized by both Retina and the RPC scanners are 
  non-intrusive and dramatically more accurate than other tools 
  currently available.http://www.eeye.com/html/Products/Retina/index.html
  
  eEye Releases Updated RPC DCOM 
  Remediating UtilityThis special version of eEye's free 
  RPC DCOM Vulnerability Scanner dramatically enhances the 
  initial version by adding the capability to disinfect systems 
  throughout the network impacted by worms like Blaster (plus 
  its variants), Nachi, Teekids, and Penis32.The Class C 
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RE: [SLUG] Server 'up'; but 'down' from external viewers...

2003-09-14 Thread Adam W
> I think it's something like   'apachelt restart now'that we use
instead of httpd restart...  where should I execute this?

Its probably best if you tell us what operating system it is running
first. And what distribution.

Are both sites running on apache?? Some sort of Virtual Hosts setup
possibly??

What sort of errors are you getting?? Have you checked the logs?? (Look
through some of the logs in /var/log)

Adam W.

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RE: [SLUG] Server 'up'; but 'down' from external viewers...

2003-09-14 Thread Adam W
Excuse the previous post - I hadnt realised it had been replied to
already.

AW.

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RE: [SLUG] allowing/disabling ftp access by user type, how ?

2003-10-10 Thread Adam W
> say, once upon a time, when I typed 'google.com' I got 
> google.com; now, I type 'google.com' but, I get 
> 'google.com.au'; who/where does that ?

Google does it. They sense you're from AU, so they forward you to
google.com.au. It's the same search engine, jus with the added option of
searching only australian sites.

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[SLUG] Samba Problems

2003-11-18 Thread Adam W
Hi All,

Having a few issues with a samba share that i cannot work out...

Basically i can access a share called "shared" on my samba server but
nobody else can do it on their machines, even though they are part of
the same group and that group has access to the share - otherwise i
myself wouldnt be able to access it...

The other users seem to be authenticating, because they can see their
home directory and write/read to it/from it...

here is the smb.conf:

[global]
server string = Samba Server %v
security = user
map to guest = bad user
workgroup = WG1
load printers = yes
log file = /var/log/samba/log.%m
smb passwd file = /etc/samba/smbpasswd
dns proxy = no
printcap name = cups
encrypt passwords = yes
wins support = true
max log size = 50
printer admin = @adm
socket options = TCP_NODELAY SO_RCVBUF=8192 SO_SNDBUF=8192
printing = cups
unix password sync = yes
netbios name = woja
os level = 20

[homes]
   comment = Home Directories
   browseable = no
   writable = yes

[shared]
writeable = yes
valid users = @shared
user = @shared
path = /mnt/shared
comment = shared folder

/mnt/shared is owned by the group "shared" and all have read write
permissions recursively..

Each time i try to browse the "shared" share on one of the other
workstations, this appears in the appropriate log file:

[2003/11/19 14:23:45, 0] smbd/service.c:make_connection(599)
  compaq (192.168.1.102) Can't change directory to /mnt/shared
(Permission denied)
[2003/11/19 14:23:45, 0] smbd/service.c:make_connection(599)
  compaq (192.168.1.102) Can't change directory to /mnt/shared
(Permission denied)

where else can their permission be denied ??? it doesnt make sense...


Thanks for any help..

Adam W. 


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RE: [SLUG] Samba Problems

2003-11-19 Thread Adam W
Julian,

> > /mnt/shared is owned by the group "shared" and all have read write 
> > permissions recursively..
> 
> > where else can their permission be denied ??? it doesnt 
> make sense...
> 
> Who has access to /mnt ? To have access to a directory in 
> Linux you also need at least the execute (x) bit set on all 
> the directories above there. If /mnt has a restrictive set of 
> permissions then users won't be able to get as far as /mnt/shared.

OF COURSE, OF COURSE THANKS it fixed it, I didn't think of that
damnit...


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RE: [SLUG] OT: wireless security

2004-03-16 Thread Adam W
Grant, 

> protecting themselves against unwanted traffic. The user must 
> agree to the 
> terms of the provider (how that's going to work I don't know 
> ++) which 
> includes not deliberately disrupting other users or doing 
> anything illegal +++.
> 
> ++ I'd like to know as it's a potential second stage to a project I'm
> quoting on. One idea is that all web/proxy access results in 
> redirection to the terms & conditions site, no other 
> ports/routing occurs until form filled out and/or payment made.

Was recently travelling in europe and stumbled upon a couple public
hotspots in hotels etc. The way they all worked was that they were
essentially open to all, but your IP or MAC (or both) were blocked to
the internet. You were redirected to a page to enter in your credit card
details and once you bought credit, you could login and logout of the
system through a web interface - this would essentially block and
unblock your access and also of course stop the timer.

Great setup - pitty the hotspots I found were pretty expensive (EUR10
for 2 hours) but internet cafes/hotspots in europe are generally pretty
expensive compared to our cafés.
 
> +++ Almost all ISP's insist you not do anything illegal even 
> though they
> don't check. However, if somebody complains and they can 
> prove it, they 
> cut you off and/or advise authorities. It's going to be potentially 
> difficult to track down wireless culprits, especially if 
> they've hijacked 
> somebody else's connection... but hey, if they can do it for phones...

Look below...
 
> Can you change the MAC address of wireless cards? How long before the 
> Taiwanese build one you can change?

Yes you can. Question is in this instance, can you have two MAC
addresses (different cards) on the same network at the same time?? I
suspect this would cause some havoc, or would it??

If you cant have two MAC's on the same network at the same time, there
is no way to hijack really (???) because the person has logged off,
hence blocking that MAC.

Feel free to correct me!

Cheers
Adam.


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[SLUG] Messaging & Kicking Users on Console

2004-03-27 Thread Adam W
Hi All,

Have googled for this but cannot seem to find the answer to these pretty
simple/common (i thought) questions.

1) how do i kick people off my linux box that are logged in via ssh or
someother means i.e how do i get rid of them out of "w"

2) how do i send messages to people logged in on ssh etc. Similar to
when you halt the system.

Thanks,

Adam W.


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[SLUG] su - Password expired

2004-03-27 Thread Adam W
Hi,

Anyone seen this problem before. Cant seem to find an answer on google
on how to fix.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] adamw]$ su
Password:
Your account has expired; please contact your system administrator
su: incorrect password

[EMAIL PROTECTED] adamw]$ chage -l adamw
Minimum:-1
Maximum:60
Warning:-1
Inactive:   -1
Last Change:Mar 28, 2004
Password Expires:   May 27, 2004
Password Inactive:  Never
Account Expires:Jan 01, 2010

The account hasn't expired as you can see above. And I am entering the
correct root password.

Any clues?

Thanks in advance.
Adam.


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RE: [SLUG] su - Password expired

2004-03-28 Thread Adam W
Matt,

> On Sun, 28 Mar 2004 15:22:48 +1000
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jon Teh) wrote:
> > Password expiry on root account bad, unless you're certain 
> to change 
> > it before expiry occurs.
> 
> You should be able to login on the console,
> even if the root password is expired.

That's right. That's what made me think that it wasn't the root account
that was the problem. Turns out Jon was right and root's password was
expired. All fixed now.

Thanks

Adam.


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RE: [SLUG] samba share and XP

2004-03-31 Thread Adam W
Luke,

> Does anyone have experience with setting up shares on samba 
> and getting them to work with XP?

I have 4 machines running XP (mixed - pro and home) and all can see and
get into the shares without any need to run any reg files or modify any
settings on the workstations at all.

Double check your samba conf file and possibly post us a copy of it to
check.

Cheers,
Adam.


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[SLUG] Apache 2.0 UserDir

2004-04-07 Thread Adam W

Hi,

Trying to use the UserDir option in apache 2.0

I have added this into /etc/httpd/conf/httpd2.conf:

UserDir /share/html

And I go to the browser and type http://localhost/~adamw

And I get a 403 forbidden. And this in the error log:

[Wed Apr 07 17:27:16 2004] [error] [client 192.168.1.101] (13)Permission
denied: access to /~adamw denied

/share/html/adamw exists. All permissions on it and below are set to 777
just to see if that was the problem and still no go. A file "index.htm"
exists in it and permissions are the same.

What could be causing this?

Cheers,
Adam.


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RE: [SLUG] Apache 2.0 UserDir

2004-04-07 Thread Adam W
Dave,

> Adam W wrote:
> 
> > What could be causing this?
> > 
> > 
> 
> i dunno about apache 1 vs 2, but don't you need a UserDir enabled
> username directive?
> and maybe UserDir ~/share/html would be a bit more sensible...
> 

Sorry, missed out those details.

Apache 2. Mandrake 9.2 default config.

After further investigation, it appears the default config already has
UserDir applied.

Here is what it has:
...

UserDir public_html

...


AllowOverride All
Options MultiViews -Indexes Includes FollowSymLinks

  Order allow,deny
  Allow from all




Options +ExecCGI -Includes -Indexes
SetHandler cgi-script

  Order allow,deny
  Allow from all



...

After creating my public_html file in /home/adamw,

Still getting:

[Wed Apr 07 19:16:46 2004] [error] [client 192.168.1.101] (13)Permission
denied: access to /~adamw denied


Cheers,

Adam.


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RE: [SLUG] Apache 2.0 UserDir

2004-04-07 Thread Adam W
Jobst,

> > 
> > After creating my public_html file in /home/adamw,
> > 
> > Still getting:
> > 
> > [Wed Apr 07 19:16:46 2004] [error] [client 192.168.1.101] 
> > (13)Permission
> > denied: access to /~adamw denied
> 
> 
> The Apache Server must have access to that DIR!
> 
> However you can do something like this:
> 
>   /home/adamw -> 0710 -> adamw.apache
> 
>   /home/adamw/public_html -> 0710 -> adamw.apache

I understand that it should. But how do I give it access when
/home/adamw only gives access to user adamw and it alone. Well how do I
do this securely/properly?

Cheers,
Adam.


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RE: [SLUG] Apache 2.0 UserDir

2004-04-07 Thread Adam W
I didn't realise apache needs execute permissions!

Thanks all,

Adam.

> Jobst,
> 
> > > 
> > > After creating my public_html file in /home/adamw,
> > > 
> > > Still getting:
> > > 
> > > [Wed Apr 07 19:16:46 2004] [error] [client 192.168.1.101]
> > > (13)Permission
> > > denied: access to /~adamw denied
> > 
> > 
> > The Apache Server must have access to that DIR!
> > 
> > However you can do something like this:
> > 
> >   /home/adamw -> 0710 -> adamw.apache
> > 
> >   /home/adamw/public_html -> 0710 -> adamw.apache
> 
> I understand that it should. But how do I give it access when 
> /home/adamw only gives access to user adamw and it alone. 
> Well how do I do this securely/properly?
> 
> Cheers,
> Adam.


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[SLUG] HTTPS, dyndns, Apache

2004-04-08 Thread Adam W
Hi All,

Just experimenting with SSL on Apache. Have set up my own little dyndns
domain. But i notice that when i surf from outside my network to
https://woja.somedyndns.comdomain then it asks about the cert not being
signed etc etc and asks me to login (apache basic login) and then
"redirects" me to https://<>/ which of course cannot
be accessed outside my local network.

What is causing this "redirect"?

Cheers,

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[SLUG] APXS Missing Mandrake 10.0

2004-04-23 Thread Adam W
Hi All,

Trying to install a module to apache2 on my newly installed Mandrake 10.0
(Community) install, but cannot seem to find apxs or apxs2 anywhere!

Anyone know why this wouldn't be included? I have installed ALL the apache
rpm's. Could it be included in some other RPM? Tried searching on google,
but cannot seem to find anything that could help.

Find / -name apxs2 
or 
find / -name apxs return nothing.

Any ideas?

Cheers,
Adam.


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RE: [SLUG] Intro and a question

2004-05-23 Thread Adam W
Gary,

> And so on to the questions:
> As a relative newbie to Linux, will installing Debian cause 
> me too much sleeplessness? Opinions "out there" seem to vary. 
> I've been running Knoppix
> 3.3 off CD to begin to reacclimatise myself with Linux.

You left out a vital point: what do you use you're pc for? General browsing,
email and word processing? Or does it extend beyond that?

> I'm planning on keeping the old machine around and hopefully 
> access Optusnet cable for both. What sort of hardware would 
> be needed to enable both machines to be connected to the net, 
> and for my machines to be able to exchange files with each 
> other (more from old to new)?

A Router (there are many) that will connect to your cable modem and then to
your pc's. They all usually come standard with an inbuilt 4 port switch, so
that will serve you just fine.

Examples that will do the job:
http://www.everythinglinux.com.au/cat/hardware/routers (I don't have any
association with elx, you could possibly get it cheaper at www.ht.com.au)

ELX sell a linksys for $95.50. I have been running this same router for a
couple years and its served well.

Do you have any experience with networking computers? If not, I shall
explain further on how to connect the machines to the router.

For exchanging files, setup samba on the debian box and then you can browse
the shared files on the debian box from the old machine.

Cheers,
Adam.


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RE: [SLUG] Intro and a question

2004-05-23 Thread Adam W
Gary,

Firstly, be sure to hit "reply to all" when replying to posts on the list.
This will ensure the message gets posted back to the list, instead of going
directly to the person who posted the reply.

> It's probably a moot point now, but the primary use of the 
> computer is browsing, email, some office suite functions and 
> a bit of digital image storage and manipulation. I have and 
> use a copy of The GIMP on my Win box but it's a bit flaky. 
> Looking forward to running it on a fast and dedicated Linux box.

Sounds like you have this part of it down pat.

> I don't have any experience with networking, but your 
> pointers about a router and setting up samba give me the 
> place to start. Presumably samba uses the same cables that 
> run to/from the router - almost like a "T"
> junction: the Optusnet cable plugs into the router and there 
> is a line from the router to each computer?

Ok, the way you set it up:

A) Cable modem will connect to the router with a cat5 cable in the WAN port
(basically the external traffic port)
B) computer 1 will connect to one of the internal network ports i.e one of
the ports on the inbuilt switch. Again using a cat5 cable.
C) computer 2 will connect the same way as computer 1, obviously in a
different port on the inbuilt switch.
D) switch on router. Default config on the router should be ok, except for
changing the password on the admin tool (usually web based, depends on
router)

All these setup steps should be outlined in the manual you get with the
router.

Samba is simply some software that runs in linux that enables linux to
emulate windows sharing or in laymens terms - Make it appear in "Network
Neighbourhood". Once this is done, you can either see it in "network
neighbourhood" (or "my network places" in XP) or type
\\linuxboxname\sharename in start|run and you will see the files on the
linux box just like you are browsing a file on the local pc.

I'd suggest getting the network up and running with sharing the internet
connection and then we can talk about setting up samba. No need to overwhelm
yourself.

Cheers,
Adam.

> > I'm planning on keeping the old machine around and hopefully
> > access Optusnet cable for both. What sort of hardware would 
> > be needed to enable both machines to be connected to the net, 
> > and for my machines to be able to exchange files with each 
> > other (more from old to new)?
> 
> A Router (there are many) that will connect to your cable 
> modem and then to
> your pc's. They all usually come standard with an inbuilt 4 
> port switch, so
> that will serve you just fine.
> 
> Examples that will do the job:
> http://www.everythinglinux.com.au/cat/hardware/routers (I 
> don't have any
> association with elx, you could possibly get it cheaper at 
> www.ht.com.au)
> 
> ELX sell a linksys for $95.50. I have been running this same 
> router for a
> couple years and its served well.
> 
> Do you have any experience with networking computers? If not, I shall
> explain further on how to connect the machines to the router.
> 
> For exchanging files, setup samba on the debian box and then 
> you can browse
> the shared files on the debian box from the old machine.


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Re: Re: [SLUG] Intro and a question

2004-05-23 Thread Adam W
Peter,

> >>A Router (there are many) that will connect to your cable 
> 
> err why wouldn't you just use the Linux box as the router?

Because when you dont have any knowledge of networking machines then wouldnt 
you think its even harder to setup masquerading on a linux box along with figuring 
out how to connect the machines?

> Connect the cable modem to the new Linux box and then connect the old
> box to the new with 
> a cross over network cable.
> Set up iptables on the new box as a firewall and forward/masquerade
> for the other box 
> depending on how/where the ip address for the cable modem is
> allocated.

Along with installing a new network card when probably not having done this before.

~$95 is not alot to spend on a router that will be guarunteed to work 99.9% of the 
time. Without the pain of trying to learn iptables and masquerading.

Adam.
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RE: [SLUG] Complex Web Form 'stacks'

2004-08-13 Thread Adam W

> > I'm all ears, unless I hear otherwise, I'll probably write 
> the 'stack'
> > technology.
> 
> I don't know that it's a "stack" problem. I can think of two 
> ways to do
> it:
> 
> 1. Use the zany xml-rpc stuff in Javascript to do the query. 
> This sounds like a nice idea in theory but I don't know how 
> compatible it would be.
> Anyone played with this?

Do this all the time in my web apps. It works relatively well with a few
little draw backs..

You have to worry about carriage returns and single quotes in the data that
is being returned in the javascript as this will cause parsing errors in
JS..

It's rather quick though and if you write good JS then it should work on all
modern browsers.

You could always use a two/more step method (back to the web server) but I
particularly don't like these :)

Adam.


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[SLUG] Local DNS Issue

2005-01-06 Thread Adam W
Hi,

I used to be able to get access to my linux box (mandrake 10.1) by
just calling it by its name. I have always been able to do this
without any config on the clients or the box (well except for
'hostname blah')

But now i cannot seem to do that. The clients dont know about the
linux box's name.

Why isnt the box broadcasting its name to the other puters now? It
*was* working, then all of a sudden, the next day it wasnt... and i
didnt change any settings and security isnt set real high on the box
(mandrake security setting)

Any ideas??

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Re: [SLUG] Local DNS Issue

2005-01-08 Thread Adam W
Ben,

Clients are windows, yes.

Samba is running and functioning correctly. if you \\192.168.1.2 from
explorer, u can see the shares just fine.

Adam

On Fri, 7 Jan 2005 21:38:41 +1100, Ben de Luca <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> are your clients windows? were you running samba?
> 
> On 07/01/2005, at 10:57 AM, Adam W wrote:
> 
> > Hi,
> >
> > I used to be able to get access to my linux box (mandrake 10.1) by
> > just calling it by its name. I have always been able to do this
> > without any config on the clients or the box (well except for
> > 'hostname blah')
> >
> > But now i cannot seem to do that. The clients dont know about the
> > linux box's name.
> >
> > Why isnt the box broadcasting its name to the other puters now? It
> > *was* working, then all of a sudden, the next day it wasnt... and i
> > didnt change any settings and security isnt set real high on the box
> > (mandrake security setting)
> >
> > Any ideas??
> >
> > Adam.
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[SLUG] Scheduling a X GUI Application to start

2005-06-09 Thread Adam W
Hi,

I simply want to schedule a specific X application to start up at a
given time and appear on the screen.

How do i do that?? I have tried using cron but it seems to just start
it in the background.

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Re: [SLUG] Scheduling a X GUI Application to start

2005-06-09 Thread Adam W
On 6/10/05, Simon Bowden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Your question does seem a bit odd though. If you had mentioned what&why
> you are really trying to achieve, then perhaps there would be a better or
> more appropriate way...

Basically optusnet cable gives you free bandwidth from 2am til 9am. I
want BitTorrent (python script) to start up at 2am, (and prefferably
stop at 9am) automatically so that i can take full advantage of this
free bandwidth without wasting my other bandwidth all the time.

I will try your suggestions and let you know.

Thanks for your help
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Re: [SLUG] Scheduling a X GUI Application to start

2005-06-09 Thread Adam W
On 6/10/05, Roger Barnes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On 6/10/05, Simon Bowden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Your question does seem a bit odd though. If you had mentioned
> > > what&why you are really trying to achieve, then perhaps
> > there would be
> > > a better or more appropriate way...
> >
> > Basically optusnet cable gives you free bandwidth from 2am
> > til 9am. I want BitTorrent (python script) to start up at
> > 2am, (and prefferably stop at 9am) automatically so that i
> > can take full advantage of this free bandwidth without
> > wasting my other bandwidth all the time.
> >
> > I will try your suggestions and let you know.
> 
> If you're not averse to using Java, Azureus (excellent bt client) has a 
> plugin >available (SpeedScheduler) for setting bandwidth limits at different 
> times.   You >can, for example, upload at all hours, and pause or throttle 
> downloads between >9am and 2am.

Good point. Will try this one out.

Have been looking for such a thing inside a BT client but never found
anything, hence this post.

Thanks

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[SLUG] X not starting on boot

2005-06-10 Thread Adam W
Hi,

Got a problem getting my machine to automatically boot into X. I can
get it to boot into a console and then use 'startx' to get into X. but
everytime i tell it to boot into X it just gives me a black screen
when its meant to give me a logon screen.

It could possibly be a video card problem. I cannot switch between X
(once started) and a console ( doing ctrl-alt-F1) and then back to X
(doing ctrl-alt-F7). Gives me this same black screen. Looks like it
has a problem switching.

I am running Mandrake LE2005 (10.2).  It is an IBM machine, onboard
video card - intel 82845 chipset. Using the 845 driver.

Looked thru the logs and found a few errors. Dont know if these have
anything to do with it.

...
Failed to load module "/usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libglx.a"
...



...
ignoring font path element /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/drakfont
...

Other font directories are listed also...

I mean i can always boot into the console and then into X... but all
my previous machines X has just booted.. i want it to work on this
machine :)

Thanks in advance

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Re: [SLUG] X not starting on boot

2005-06-10 Thread Adam W
On 6/11/05, Ken Caldwell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Sat, 2005-06-11 at 10:35 +1000, Adam W wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > Got a problem getting my machine to automatically boot into X. I can
> > get it to boot into a console and then use 'startx' to get into X. but
> > everytime i tell it to boot into X it just gives me a black screen
> > when its meant to give me a logon screen.
> What happens if you do
> /etc/init.d/kdm start
> or something like that (I'm not sure how Mandrake does things nor which
> display manager you are running)

Will give it a try... currently using GDM... but i've tried changing
between kdm, gdm and xdm and it does the same thing each time.

> > It could possibly be a video card problem. I cannot switch between X
> > (once started) and a console ( doing ctrl-alt-F1) and then back to X
> > (doing ctrl-alt-F7). Gives me this same black screen. Looks like it
> > has a problem switching.
> Doing ctrl-alt-F7 assumes that there are gettys running on VTs 1 to 6
> but if, for example, you have only VTs 1 to 3 as I have on some of my
> setups you would see this. What is in /etc/inittab?

I know ctrl-alt-F7 works on this edition of MDK because i used to do
it on another machine.

here is my /etc/inittab:

id:3:initdefault:

# System initialization.
si::sysinit:/etc/rc.d/rc.sysinit

l0:0:wait:/etc/rc.d/rc 0
l1:1:wait:/etc/rc.d/rc 1
l2:2:wait:/etc/rc.d/rc 2
l3:3:wait:/etc/rc.d/rc 3
l4:4:wait:/etc/rc.d/rc 4
l5:5:wait:/etc/rc.d/rc 5
l6:6:wait:/etc/rc.d/rc 6

# Trap CTRL-ALT-DELETE
ca::ctrlaltdel:/sbin/shutdown -t3 -r now

# When our UPS tells us power has failed, assume we have a few minutes
# of power left.  Schedule a shutdown for 2 minutes from now.
# This does, of course, assume you have powerd installed and your
# UPS connected and working correctly.
pf::powerfail:/sbin/shutdown -f -h +2 "Power Failure; System Shutting Down"

# If power was restored before the shutdown kicked in, cancel it.
pr:12345:powerokwait:/sbin/shutdown -c "Power Restored; Shutdown Cancelled"


# Run gettys in standard runlevels
1:2345:respawn:/sbin/mingetty tty1
2:2345:respawn:/sbin/mingetty tty2
3:2345:respawn:/sbin/mingetty tty3
4:2345:respawn:/sbin/mingetty tty4
5:2345:respawn:/sbin/mingetty tty5
6:2345:respawn:/sbin/mingetty tty6


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Re: [SLUG] X not starting on boot

2005-06-10 Thread Adam W
On 6/11/05, Adam W <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 6/11/05, Ken Caldwell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > What happens if you do
> > /etc/init.d/kdm start
> > or something like that (I'm not sure how Mandrake does things nor which
> > display manager you are running)
> 
> Will give it a try... currently using GDM... but i've tried changing
> between kdm, gdm and xdm and it does the same thing each time.

looks like in MDKLE2005 it is /etc/init.d/dm start

when i do this as root it starts up X with a gnome login screen and
everything seems to work fine!

should i be starting to look at the bootup script for the X runlevel??

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[SLUG] [OT]: Database Design Question

2005-08-09 Thread Adam W
Hi,

Can anyone put a name to the following type of design...

I need to be able to modify the amount/names of data "fields" stored
for an entity so instead of representing the data stored for an entity
in fields associated with that entity you would relate it to an
another entity which would contain a datafield type field and its
associated value, so different rows in the parent table could possibly
have different datafields associated with it.

E.g
The parent table is "person" and it holds common data amongst all
people - it has primary key of personID.
There is another table assoicated with person called "personDetails".
This would have fields "personID", "dataType" and "dataValue". It
might have records like the following:
personID, dataType, dataValue
1,phone,123456
1,email,test@test.com
1,state,NSW
2,phone,987456321
2,state,VIC
3,phone,789456123

Of course this is just an example - the parent entity could be anything.

Hope someone can put a name to this sort of design. I want to research
into this to see how people search effectively in this design and its
performance compared to traditional methods etc etc.

Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks
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Re: [SLUG] [OT]: Database Design Question

2005-08-09 Thread Adam W
Gavin,

Thanks for your input. Much Appreciated.

On 8/10/05, Gavin Carr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 09, 2005 at 07:35:11PM +1000, Adam W wrote:
> > E.g
> > The parent table is "person" and it holds common data amongst all
> > people - it has primary key of personID.
> > There is another table assoicated with person called "personDetails".
> > This would have fields "personID", "dataType" and "dataValue". It
...
> As you imply, the main advantage of doing it this way is that you can
> add new attributes to a object without having to change your schema -
> they just become additional rows. The disadvantage is that if you are
> primarily going to want to deal with the data as a flat 'person'
> record, then the joins do hit you on the performance side. Note that
> there are a number of use cases where you don't need to do that
> though - if you want to use the attributes primarily as search keys,
> for instance, then it can be a very efficient and flexible
> representation.
> 
> I confess that in one large real-world app I was involved with we
> denormalised this part of the data model and did both - had the most
> common attributes as columns on the person record, _and_ as rows in
> the person attribute table. Slightly evil, but it worked out very
> well. ;-)
> 
> I'd be interested if you do turn up any discussion of this Adam.

Done some searching on "Attribute Tables" and after some serious
googling i've found another name for this sort of design.
Entity-Attribute-Value or EAV. If you search on google you will find
many papers published about this type of design used in the medical
information systems.
An example:
http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/articlerender.fcgi?artid=346624

Thanks,

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RE: [SLUG] ADSL jungle

2003-02-07 Thread Adam W
> Question 2: can linux handle the DSL-504? Or are there more suitable 
> devices to use?

If it does NAT then linux can handle/use it. I havent heard of any cases
(prove me wrong?) that a NAT DSL/Cable router has not worked with linux.

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RE: [SLUG] Hard Drives

2003-02-13 Thread Adam W
> > The moral of this story is: backup with RAID is better than RAID 
> > without backup.
> 
> ITYM backup *without* RAID is better than RAID without backup.
Although, it does protect you from a blown motor in one of the drives -
without losing a day/week/months data.

Then again - you may find your tapes are buggered and cant retrieve any
data off that either!

I guess it all depends how "expensive" your data is.

Cheers!

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RE: [SLUG] UTS Bachelor of Information Technology

2003-02-14 Thread Adam W
> Hi folks,
> 
> Does anyone have an opinion on the UTS Bachelor of 
> Information Technology? It is a totally scholarshiped course 
> that you can transfer into from other institutions. It has an 
> industry component. I was wondering if it ties you to 
> specific employers with special conditions or anything like 
> that? I am currently studying RMIT subjects via OLA.

This course is purely scholarship based. According to the uni, students
who apply need to have a UAI of 95 or above, and also attend an
interview with uni staff (cant tell you who that would be - I suppose
the computing dept dean/s)

Given they stress you must have a UAI of 95 or above, personally I don't
think you would be able to transfer from another institution, or rather,
without great difficulty. (not saying it isnt possible)

Regarding the industry component - I would suspect you'd have nearly a
100% chance of having a job after graduating, or before.

That's only my 2c worth - it may not be 100% right, I just know a little
because I wanted to do it also.

Cheers and good luck.

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RE: [SLUG] Getting to my app

2003-02-16 Thread Adam W
> I'm running Debian Woody, and am trying to access an 
> application which is listening on a TCP/IP socket.  The app 
> is just a small http server, and I'm using a web browser to access it.
> 
> I know the app is listening on the expected port, because if 
> I connect using a browser on the same machine that the server 
> is running on, everything works fine.  If I try to get to the 
> same app from a different machine, though, I get "the 
> connection was refused".

Are you sure the web server is allowing anything outside 127.0.0.1?

It would be helpful to know what web server you are running.

Cheers

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RE: [SLUG] How to Use VNC !!

2003-03-03 Thread Adam W
> I have installed VNC version 3.3 on the master machine 
> running Windows 2000.
> 
> I have also installed VNC version 2.8 on the slave PC running Linux.
> 
> I opened VNC on the master PC and entered the IP address for 
> the Linux machine, and I got connect failed after I connect.
> 
> Is there anything I have to do on the Linux machine, like 
> start a client ?


You have to start a VNC server on your linux box.

It should ask for the screen ID - usually set to 0
And a password.

It should then connect itself to X windows.

> 
> Also how do I do these fancy X forwarding stuff with VNC ?

I didn't have to do much fiddling with it to get it working... Hardest
thing was finding where it was on the HD! 

> No help manual was installed from the software I installed.

Checked the vnc sites??

There are different sites also... www.tightvnc.com www.realvnc.com Not
sure about the realvnc.com?? But tight is great!


Cheers

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RE: [SLUG] How to Use VNC !!

2003-03-04 Thread Adam W
> It went in and opened an xterm. I thought that it would show 
> the Linux graphical login screen, and once logged in it would 
> take me to the graphical display I see when I logged in from 
> the Linux machine itself. This seems different to the way 
> cgiwin/XFREE86 works.

It should give you X windows - basically a real bland type... Right
click should give you the X windows menu... And so on.

It's not like the windows version where you move the mouse and it moves
the mouse on the local screen. It has its own "terminal" so to speak.

Although, in the latest Mandrake (9.0, soon 9.1) they have actually
implemented their own (I think its their own) sort of "remote admin"
version of Linux VNC, where it acts like the windows VNC.. i.e you
control the users mouse, KB etc.


> But I'm sure it has it's advantages.
> 
> Now how do I kill this session. Does just getting out from 
> Windows kill this session, or I have to do something at the 
> Linux machine.

Close VNC should do it, or right click for the menu to log out>
Havent used it on linux in ages.


Cheers

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RE: [SLUG] Microsoft Tax

2003-03-12 Thread Adam W
> on Wed, Mar 12, 2003 at 02:22:03PM +1100, Bill 
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > why take delivery of a box with the spam os on it? I bought my last 
> > two
> > boxes without any software at all; and expect to continue 
> purchasing 
> > that way
> 
> Thats my thought too. If they wont sell you a box without and 
> OS go else where.

That's all well and good - but if you wont a decent laptop from a decent
company with a good warranty (like dell provides) then you have to
compromise.

I don't know about you... But I wouldn't be caught buying some no name
laptop that is going to fall apart a day after the warranty expires just
because they wont sell me the machine without the OS I want on it.

Yes your thoughts may be ok when buying a desktop machine - but
certainly not for laptops.

Regards,

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RE: [SLUG] Audio out on two machines simultaneously

2003-03-12 Thread Adam W
> > A hardware fix would be wiring your audio through the two 
> unused pairs 
> > of your network cable.
> 
> That would have nice hack value.  Might be a bugger 
> separating the pairs, though...

A bigger bugger when you don't have wires to separate. He first
mentioned the laptop is using WLAN :-)

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RE: [SLUG] Microsoft Tax

2003-03-12 Thread Adam W
> Also, I thought Dell were starting to offer no-OS machines? 
> Maybe that's 
> just on their servers.

Yeah this is their server models. Its actually the default option - they
come with no OS unless otherwise stated.

But no hope for the laptops/desktops going this way.

Cheers

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RE: [SLUG] Win2k - Linux VPN

2003-03-12 Thread Adam W
> There's a book called "Building Linux VPNs" which I bought 
> recently.  I haven't read it all yet, but what I have read is 
> pretty good.  I used it to set up ppp over ssh a couple of days ago:

Just on this topic of VPN's. I have been meaning to ask everybody. How
secure are VPN's in terms of packet sniffers/encryption etc. The company
that I work for has decided to use citrix Nfuse or whatever the S^#@ is!
Because they argue that using a VPN is insecure - I totally disagree
with this, as I know massive multi-national corporations use these and
rely on these. And as if these companies would use this if it was
insecure.

This isnt to say we havent got VPN access - they have set up a win2k
server to do this, though they make everyone use citrix nFuse(over a
128bit SSL connection), and only special people (like me :) get to use a
VPN.

Personally I hate citrix - VPN for remote access is 100 times quicker
and more convenient (for the laptop user)!

Cheers,

And TIA for your comments.

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[SLUG] IE running on Linux - Suggestions

2003-03-15 Thread Adam W
Hi All,

One of the biggest factors of me crossing over to full time linux, at
work and at home is the ability to run IE(please no flames). I just get
really frustrated going to websites that run perfectly on IE, and seeing
them all jumbled up on opera/mozilla or whatever because they don't
support HALF the amount of functions IE has implemented e.g go to
ninemsn.com.au, www.msn.com, www.microsoft.com sorry cant remember any
non-ms sites :).

I have been messing around with running IE using WINE, but after I got
past a couple SHLWAPI.DLL not found and the like, when I run 'wine
iexplore.exe' it just thinks for a bit and then returns to the prompt...

I have had a peep at crossover office/plugin - how well does this work??
I am really only looking to get IE running nicely. I don't want to spend
my US$60 to find that it works for most, but not for me. It's a real
pitty they don't have a demo release! Or not one that I can find!

Maybe someone can suggest another way of running IE?? I don't want to
run any sort of VM - I just want to run a single app.

A contributing factor to wine not working for me I think is the fact
that I run win2k on the other partition I was trying to run IE off -
everyone posting on the wine forums seemed to be running win95/98
flavours.

BTW, I'm running MDK9.0, 1Ghz PIII-M, 256MB RAM - power shouldn't be a
problem.

Any appropriate suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

Cheers

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RE: [SLUG] Welcome to the Movieglobe Mailing List

2003-03-22 Thread Adam W
> 
> 
> > Which is a prime example of why the list should be changed to 
> > "subscribers only can post" - it would LESSEN the workload on our 
> > overworked list
> > admins...:-)
> 
> I disagree - not only is this a bad example of the point, but 
> changing the list to subscribers-only would not lessen the 
> administrative workload.
> 
> It's a bad example because it's exactly the sort of activity 
> that would get around the subscriber-only restriction. If a 
> spammer subscribes, then there's nothing stopping them from posting.

I can see your point in one respect - but if they do subscribe, admins
CAN kick them off and we don't get the mail.

Yes I know this adds more work for the admins - you're right about that.

Yeah its not all that much - but none is better than a little I guess.

So I guess I disagree and agree! :) That's my 2c... Its not worth that
much tho!

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[SLUG] ps2tiff

2003-03-29 Thread Adam W
Hi All,
I have had a google and it seems that such thing does exist - but only
problem is that I cant find it... I have got the latest version of
ghostscript, and ps2tiff is not included in that.

Any ideas? Does anyone use this, and know where to find?? Or maybe just
know where to find it?

Ps2pdf is cool, but it would be even nicer to have ps2tiff, as windows
users don't need the pdf reader (which most ppl have anyway), they can
just use the inbuilt kodak image program.

Cheers


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FW: [SLUG] ps2tiff

2003-03-29 Thread Adam W
Didn't send it to the list damnit

> > Ps2pdf is cool, but it would be even nicer to have ps2tiff,
> as windows
> > users don't need the pdf reader (which most ppl have
> anyway), they can
> > just use the inbuilt kodak image program.
> 
> I presume you're aware that ps/pdf is a vector format and
> tiff is a raster format, and are aware of the implications 
> that has on image size, quality, etc.

Maybe we're talking different tiff formats... See in our office we have
one of these panasonic DigiFax, which scans and emails you a tif of the
"fax". You open it in this kodak program(or really any image viewer),
and it supports multiple pages within the one tif file.

Yes/No?

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slug@slug.org.au

2003-03-31 Thread Adam W
What does 2>&1 mean in a shell script??

E.g

root preexec = /bin/mount /bigdisk 2>&1 >> /tmp/bigdisk-mount.log


I have seen it around a lot...

Thanks..

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RE: [SLUG] Oh dear

2003-03-31 Thread Adam W
> No comment...:-(
> 
> http://www.itnews.com.au/storycontent.cfm?ID=0&Art_ID=11772

Hey I don't mind paying $1 to use linux - They are charging me a good
sum, compared to $600 for windows!

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[SLUG] mySQL Control Center - Access Denied Problem

2003-04-02 Thread Adam W
Hi All,

I am having a few problems with mySQL. Why would it be doing this:
* I can login locally on the mySQL box using $mysql -uadamw -p
* I try and do this through mySQL control center running on
windows machine and it gives me: ERROR 1045: Access denied for user:
'[EMAIL PROTECTED]' (Using password: YES)
* I try this on a linux (not the server) box using $mysql
-uadamw -p and it lets me access it.
* Last night I could access mySQL via the control center - but
after a reboot it now refuses. Though last night it allowwed me after
some changes to hosts.allow, hosts.deny (don't know if that is relevant
- isnt this just xinetd? I'm not running mySQL through xinetd)

Of course I have set the users table correctly - user adamw is accepted
from all hosts.

Can anyone pick the error??

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RE: [SLUG] mySQL Control Center - Access Denied Problem

2003-04-03 Thread Adam W
> MySQL permissions depend on which box you are coming from.
> 
> So [EMAIL PROTECTED] might have one set of permissions and 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] might have different permissions (or none).
> 
> You can adjust the permissions using the PERMIT statement.

I understand that - but I have let my username be accessed from all
hosts. And this works from my linux client box, but not my windows
client box...

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RE: [SLUG] mySQL Control Center - Access Denied Problem

2003-04-03 Thread Adam W

> >From memory MySQL handles local access differently to remote 
> access. If 
> >you
> connect from the localhost then it will use [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> while remote access will use [EMAIL PROTECTED] Make sure both accounts 
> exist and use the password for [EMAIL PROTECTED] when using mycc from a 
> windows box. (Remember that [EMAIL PROTECTED] and [EMAIL PROTECTED] can 
> have different passwords because they are different users)

This has fixed the problem, thanks...

It doesn't make sense tho... Webmin was saying user adamw had access
from ALL hosts - but obviously hadnt... When I entered in a new user
adamw with host % webmin reported ALL for the hosts access just like the
first one - but obviously there is a little bug in the mysql webmin
module?

Thanks Anyway... It has worked nicely...

Cheers

AW.

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RE: [SLUG] home server on adsl; advice

2003-06-06 Thread Adam W
 
> This the topology I have in mind for my network. (Maybe minus 
> Firewall 3 and Firwall 4). Is there something wrong with it ?
> 
>+-+
>| I N T E R N E T |
>+-+
>  |
>+--+
>| ADSL Router / Firewall 1 |
>+--+
>  |
>+--+
>|Firewall 2|
>+--+
> | |
> +---+ ++
> |  |
>   ++   ++
>   | Firewall 3 |   | Firewall 4 |
>   ++   ++
> |  |
> --- ---
>/ Eth Switch 1 // Eth Switch 2 /
>--- ---
>  | | | |
>  | | | +---+
>  | | +---+ |
>  | +---+ | |
>  | | | |
>   ++  ++  +--+  +-+
>   | FTP Server |  | WEB Server |  | Email Server |  | LAN |
>   ++  ++  +--+  +-+

Theres nothing wrong with it - firewalls 3 and 4 arent all THAT useful,
unless your totally paranoid about the security of the network.

This sort of network arrangement is called a DMZ (De-materialized Zone)

Correct me anyone if I am wrong?

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[SLUG] Partitioning Question

2003-06-01 Thread Adam W
Hi All,

I have always wondered why the default installation of mandrake or other
distro's, partitions your drive into all these different partitions, if
you choose the auto allocate feature.

For example, different partitions for /home and /var and /

I have always just used the one partition for everything - at what stage
does the partitioning of the drive start to matter??

Cheers

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RE: [SLUG] home server on adsl; advice

2003-06-01 Thread Adam W

> The question in a nutshell is this;
>   Can I host 2 (or more) domains on one static IP address?
> And if so, can someone point me in the right direction as how 
> to go about 
> this.

Yes, its called 'virtual hosts' - basically it senses what domain name
you have typed in the URL, and gives you the right pages.




> I had a quick look at the virtual services howto, but this 
> appears to be for 
> when you have seperate IP numbers for each domain.

Don't know if this is different - but I presume you were looking at the
right thing.

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RE: [SLUG] Network

2003-06-07 Thread Adam W
> I am thinking of mounting a secondary switch(s) in the new building, 
> with an uplink to the existing network, however, what sort of uplink 
> should it be:


Yes, this would be the most appropriate - I wouldn't be running 15 cat5
cables out to the new building!!

> 1. Is it worth putting fibre in?
> 2. What does it take to make a gigabit network instead of 
> 100Mbit? 3. Any other suggestions?

Fibre (correct me if I'm wrong anyone!!) wont give you better speeds as
such - unless of course your comparing gigabit fibre to 10/100 copper.
The main use for fibre is for distance communications. You see cat5 can
only go approx 100m (probably less) without losing the signal
completely... Where as fibre can reach far greater distances (I wont try
give an estimate) but its way more than copper.

So depending on how far this building is away from the other, and the
cable run, will determine the sort of link you should get.

Don't ask me about a gigabit uplink :)

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Adam W.

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RE: [SLUG] The VPN challenge

2003-06-10 Thread Adam W
Luke,

> Freeswan seems the obvious solution, but there is little docco to
> indicate how I configure it for maximum interoperability. Let alone 
> interop with other free software.
> 
> I also thought "isn't IPsec meant to be a standard?" Shouldn't I be
> able to use that?
> 
> What do people recommend for this stuff? I'm operating a bit in the
> dark ... having only used CheckPoint at work.

Considering you want windows to connect to the server I'd be looking at
one of these two solutions:

http://www.natecarlson.com/linux/ipsec-x509.php

Or

http://www.jacco2.dds.nl/networking/freeswan-l2tp.html

I couldn't get any of these working - trying to get the latest freeswan
compiled on mandrake was just beyond me... The RPMS were broken etc etc

Good Luck,

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RE: [SLUG] constant hard disk access

2003-06-26 Thread Adam W
Ben,

> Hi Slugs,
> I have a Mandrake 9 box. Turn it on and after a week or so of running 
> the hard disk access light seems to stay almost constantly 
> on. This will 
> continue for about a week and then stop back to normal ie very low 
> activity. Give it another week or two and then another week or so of 
> hard access again. If I reboot the box (ah windows training) 
> the access 
> is normal till a week or so and then heavy access all over again.

Had a very similar problem with mandrake 8.x on a slower machine (P233,
64mb ram etc etc) and the HD would go balistic!! I couldn't handle it
any longer so I would just reboot the machine.. Everything would be fine
for a while and then it'd go balistic again! I swapped machines, and no
problem... I put it down to a hardware problem... But maybe not, I'm no
expert..

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RE: [SLUG] Duplicating CD's

2003-06-26 Thread Adam W
Matt,

> Better ways of duplicating CDs are:
> 
> * Using cdread (input equivalent of cdrecord) to rip the disk, or
> 
> * Mounting the disk and running mkisofs over it.

Only problem with the latter is that if it's a bootable CD, the bootable
part wont be ripped in with the ISO... Correct me if I'm wrong, but
that's the impression I get from mkisofs.

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RE: [SLUG] VNC

2003-07-20 Thread Adam W
Simon,

> HI all,
> I am experimenting with using VNC to access the desktop on my 
> LTSP server from my Windows laptop. I can connect OK but all 
> I get is a plain grey screen and the mouse curosr, there was 
> an app running when I clicked and dragged, I thnk it was 
> iconmanager or something similar, however since I closed it, 
> I don't even get that anymore.

I cant help you exactly with your problem - if there is one... BUT... I
can tell you that VNC on linux is much different to that on windows. On
linux it is much like a TERMINAL and on windows, you control the local
mouse and keyboard. If you want to control the local mouse and keyboard,
so the mouse moves on the local screen when the VNC mouse moves -
mandrake made some sort of remote desktop app that uses VNC to control
the local K&M.

Now - with the linux VNC, it uses a pretty primitive window manager
(nothing flashy is the aim), to get the menu, I think it's a right
click.. You should then get the normal X menu.. I think??

Hope that helps - sorry if you already knew.

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AW.

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RE: [SLUG] Help

2003-07-23 Thread Adam W
Title: Message



Jubril,
 
I dont 
want to be harsh, but you should probably think about doing some other business 
venture if you dont have any clue of how to even start. OR get someone that 
knows what they are doing... I wouldnt suggest running or setting up such a cafe 
if u dont know how to start... In my humble opinion -  Its a recipe for 
disaster...
 
Cheers 
and good luck
 
AW.

  
  -Original Message-From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
  Jubril AdesanyaSent: Wednesday, 23 July 2003 9:59 
  AMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: [SLUG] 
  Help
  
  Hi
   
  Can u please help me i want to set up an internet cafe but i havent got 
  a clue of  were to start or what it cost. Please 
  can u give me some information on the type of software i would need to use the cost 
  involved and anything else which coul help me.
  Jubril
  
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RE: [SLUG] NZ proposes GST on downloaded software.[ Here next ?]

2001-06-28 Thread Adam W


>
> Ummm, I don't think you understand how GST works. At least here in Oz,
> companies get to deduct the GST they have paid from the GST remittance
> they make to the government.
>
> So, the reality is that for companies, things do not cost 10% more, so
> there is no advantage to using free software.

only if you charge the same amount of GST to those you sell your
service/product to. If you sell less, you get hit with the GST...

e.g spend $1000 - get hit with $100 gst

only sell $100 worth of goods - $10 GST
meaning you get hit with $90 gst to pay or have paid.

*i think i am correct hehe *


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