[SLUG] The greatest method to gratify your lover
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Re: [SLUG] Android-based smartphones - any drawbacks ?
I used to use pocketcast but sharing a link was forced via pocketcast I currently use Google Reader, for the subscription to pocketcasts, and playback via Google Listen. It's shame it has to be two apps. On 2/02/12 10:08 PM, simran wrote: some adhoc feedback... i have found that podcasts dont work as well on android (especially enhanced podcasts - which i think are an apple propritary thing anyway, surprise surprise!!! :) i personally prefer android anyday, get the phone, root it (or not), and you have way way way more control than you can hope to on an ios. On Thu, Feb 2, 2012 at 8:42 PM, Rod Butcherrbutc...@hyenainternet.comwrote: I need to have a smartphone as part of my job needs me to be be able to use and be familiar with all the new social media communications tools. Initial research indicates that Android-based phones have the highest market share and are best value for money. And of course I like Linux. Are there any things they can't do or can't connect to/interface with, which other proprietary systems can ? Any serious comparison documents I can study ? thanks Rod -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/**mailinglists.htmlhttp://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] How to email on the run
On 06/04/11 15:41, Daryl Thompson wrote: I have a real need to be able to send my mail from different locations with my laptop. I need to be able to send the email with out configuring the smtp on the Laptop Email all the time. I not always able to know the ISP i am connected i am unable to use Gmail or Yahoo as my SMTP as these services are sometimes restricted by the server or ISP will only allow there SMTP protocol to work. I am unsure on configuring send mail on the laptop and don't know if it will do this for me. if some one could help me with this by way of some instructions or al least a information page on the web that explains it in simple steps, i would be greatly appreciated. regards Daryl I'd be surprised if Gmail et al authenticated secure smtp was blocked. Most ISP's will block port 25, but not other ports as used by Gmail et al secure SMTP providers. F -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] How to email on the run
On 06/04/11 16:34, Daryl Thompson wrote: On 6 April 2011 16:25, Phil Scarratt f...@draxsen.com mailto:f...@draxsen.com wrote: On 06/04/11 15:41, Daryl Thompson wrote: I have a real need to be able to send my mail from different locations with my laptop. I need to be able to send the email with out configuring the smtp on the Laptop Email all the time. I not always able to know the ISP i am connected i am unable to use Gmail or Yahoo as my SMTP as these services are sometimes restricted by the server or ISP will only allow there SMTP protocol to work. I am unsure on configuring send mail on the laptop and don't know if it will do this for me. if some one could help me with this by way of some instructions or al least a information page on the web that explains it in simple steps, i would be greatly appreciated. regards Daryl I'd be surprised if Gmail et al authenticated secure smtp was blocked. Most ISP's will block port 25, but not other ports as used by Gmail et al secure SMTP providers. F -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html yep they block all but there smtp especial gmail and others services. i had to get approval at my location now to get a secured port from there server so i could use gmail from the web. Which means they are filtering web traffic as well, and likely blocking all ports except 80 and 443, both of which are likely filtered. Which means you are flat out of luck - except for setting up a server in the cloud somewhere that has a secure smtp daemon listening on port 80 (incidentally, depending on the filter this may not work either). A preferable alternative might be to run a VPN with a SMTP server available at the other end and hope they allow the VPN ports out. IANAL but either of these could of course violate the conditions of use of their internet connection. F -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] How to email on the run
On 06/04/11 17:19, pe...@chubb.wattle.id.au wrote: Phil == Phil Scarratt f...@draxsen.com writes: Phil On 06/04/11 15:41, Daryl Thompson wrote: I have a real need to be able to send my mail from different locations with my laptop. I do this all the time. I've set up a server that listens on port 587 (submission) and relays mail for me. Gmail SMTP servers also listen on that port, so you can use them if you trust Google and have an account with them. Peter c That's what I meant in my original reply to Daryl about using Gmail servers. I find it unlikely ISP's would block that port, but some private networks may block all outgoing ports and only allow some thru (ie 80 and 443). F -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Disappearing Title Bar
On 01/10/10 11:12, Heracles wrote: The title bar on the windows that open within gnome sometimes go away. This is a random sort of happening. I may be using the system fine for an hour or so and then the next window I open has no title bar and when I look at the other open windows I find that their title bars have disappeared also. The only way they come back is by rebooting. Is this a bug in gnome? System: Core 2 Duo with 4GB RAM OS: Ubuntu 10.04 with Gnome 2.30.2 Gnome (or a component thereof) has likely crashed. Restarting the component will get you back. gnome-panel possibly Quite some time ago I had similar trouble - but not on Ubuntu 10.04. Fil -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Virtualization - Whither goes thou?
We successfully run kvm on CentOS 5.4 as well, running a mix of windows XP, Ubuntu desktops, further CentOS 5.4 instances. Currently, we use virt-manager to manage the instances, but I'll be looking at Convirture: Enterprise-class management for open source virtualization in the near future. On 13/05/2010, at 10:05 PM, Amos Shapira wrote: On 13 May 2010 18:38, Dean Hamstead d...@fragfest.com.au wrote: Stay away from Xen as IBM and RedHat have both abandoned it in favour of KVM. Stay away from vmware as its closed source and only developed by vmware :) KVM is in centos 5.4 and every other distribution (debian etc). Centos 4.8 supports virtio for much faster io and network performance. At my undisclosed business we are running 14 physical machines, 128gig ram 2x6 core amd, each with ~100 VMs. Pretty mind boggling stuff. But much more easily managed with KVM on linux than that lock-you-out-make-you-use-our-gui vmware thing. Stuff like SElinux around vm's for example, and KSM really works :) Thanks for the input Dean. Just to clarify - are you using KVM successfully on CentOS 5.4 (both Dom0 and domU) today? I got the impression it's in a Technology Preview (euphemism for beta testing?) stage and there are still missing tools in 5.4. I'd love to switch to KVM even though Xen works well for us simply because I keep hearing that its performance is much better, and the Xen in CentOS 5 is at least one generation behind the current version. Cheers, --Amos -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Virtualization - Whither goes thou?
I have to say they have been very stable. We don't do anything fancy to them once they are built as we can rebuild the centos ones from kickstart easily. We rarely don't migrate instances to other machines, and when we do we just rsync everything over and start up on the other machine. Phil On 13/05/2010, at 10:19 PM, Amos Shapira wrote: On 13 May 2010 22:15, Phil Manuel p...@pkje.net wrote: We successfully run kvm on CentOS 5.4 as well, running a mix of windows XP, Ubuntu desktops, further CentOS 5.4 instances. Currently, we use virt-manager to manage the instances, but I'll be looking at Convirture: Enterprise-class management for open source virtualization in the near future. Thanks very much Phil. How is the stability and performance you see? The Release Notes and Technical Notes for RHEL 5.5 (http://www.redhat.com/docs/en-US/Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux/5.5/html/Technical_Notes/libvirt.html) left me with the impression that there is still bug fixing and stability work being done on it. Cheers, --Amos -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Petabytes on a budget
Thought people might find this interesting. It doesn't get to the cloud bit, but describes the building block they use. Petabytes on a budget: How to build cheap cloud storage http://blog.backblaze.com/2009/09/01/petabytes-on-a-budget-how-to-build-cheap-cloud-storage/ At Backblaze, we provide unlimited storage to our customers for only $5 per month, so we had to figure out how to store hundreds of petabytes of customer data in a reliable, scalable way—and keep our costs low. After looking at several overpriced commercial solutions, we decided to build our own custom Backblaze Storage Pods: 67 terabyte 4U servers for $7,867. -- Phil Scarratt Draxsen Technologies m: 0403 531 271 -- The trouble with having an open mind, of course, is that people will insist on coming along and trying to put things in it. - Terry Pratchett -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] New in the mailing list, just saying hello
Arnaldo Ariel Arrieta wrote: Today I joined this mailing list and just wanted to say hello to everybody. My name is Ariel (just in case: I am a guy, In Spanish, Ariel is a male name :-) ) and I live in Argentina. I know this is the Sydney LUG and that we are more than 12000 km. apart, but I am a big fan of Australia (wish to live there some day) and I thought it could be interesting (and fun) to join your mailing list and be able to take part helping and learning. Well, thats all, dont want to make you get bored. See you :-) -- Ariel Bienvenido a SLUG! Fil -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Extracting string from a file - shell script
Kyle wrote:
Hi Folks,
I am trying to extract a substring from a string found in a file.
The string is: *** End of TF0220 at Thu Jul 2 10:06:51 EST 2009 -
RC = 0
and the substring I want to extract is TF0220. This is a program name
and the length of this name varies. In other words I want to extract
whatever is between the words of and at in a script.
How would I likely go about that please?
Something like this would work:
cat file | perl -nle
'if(/^\*\*\*\s+End\s+of\s+([\S]+)\s+at\s+.*/){print $1;}'
Fil
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Re: [SLUG] Extracting string from a file - shell script
Peter Chubb wrote:
Phil == Phil Scarratt f...@draxsen.com writes:
Phil Something like this would work:
Phil cat file | perl -nle
Phil 'if(/^\*\*\*\s+End\s+of\s+([\S]+)\s+at\s+.*/){print $1;}'
Why use cat?
Why not file perl ...
The extra process plus pipe just wastes resources.
Good point! But then again sed is probably a better option anyway
Fil
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Re: [SLUG] security monitor with webcam
I remember that story as well, I believe he was using zoneminder. We use this package at work, it is not an easy install with some USB camera's although it has improved with later releases and kernels. On 19/05/2009, at 1:47 PM, Amos Shapira wrote: Whatever you use, consider uploading the feed to a server in another location. I remember reading about a guy from the UK who caught a thief who stole his computer by having the entire incident recorded remotely, including the face of the idiot as he walked over to pick up the working computer. Good luck. -Amos On 5/19/09, Ken Foskey fos...@tpg.com.au wrote: My flats have had a series of fires (BY Idiots) and I want to hook up a webcam and record all the comings and goings from the building. Fortunately I can do this from my kitchen window. Is there a way to snapshot every second and discard any significant duplicate pictures, pictures would also need to be watermarked with the time. I then want to be able to replay a section of time that is the best estimate of when the fire was set. I may not be home / awake. From a hardware point of view, can I extend the USB wire as I need about 3m extra. Would it still work. Ta Ken -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- Sent from my mobile device -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Lenovo wins $150m NSW schools deal or April Fools joke?
Marghanita da Cruz wrote: david wrote: snip I'm not an expert but I believe that the lack of native CMYK is fundamental to the printing problems. It's rather more than a fancy feature. Printing photos and artwork is fundamental to a whole industry (or two). There are other software with colour management (cinepaint comes to mind) but it's nowhere near as easy to use or as sophisticated as Photoshop. It's one area where FOSS has a way to go. I would love someone to tell me I'm wrong. So, the school kids are being taught to develop content for four colour industrial printing, rather than websites? Personally, I would think that school kids and FOSS developers time is better spent improving tools and adding to content in the online world. What really erks me, is that no doubt a PDF newsletters will be produced and emailed around to be printed on home and school printers (no commercial printer in sight). - Tell me I'm wrong. No no - printed on black and white printers :) - colour printing is still too expensive for most schools apart from the mid to high fee range private schools. Fil -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] A little SAMBA help, maybe?
Kyle wrote: Hi folks, version 3.0.28-1.el5_2.1 with a share config of; [media] path = /home/shares/media comment = Movies, downl. Videos, Music, etc guest ok = Yes writable = No write list = @restrict force group = +extended according to the man files, everyone in group 'restrict' should have write access irrespective of the 'writable' (read only) param. Does anyone have any ideas why someone in group 'restrict' would NOT be able to write to it pls? I can, but then I'm also the samba admin. Drop the writable = No bit, a share is Read only by default (see read only directive in smb.conf man page). The writable=no is overriding everything else. Of course, test it once configured just to make sure guest can't write to it. Fil -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] A little SAMBA help, maybe?
Phil Scarratt wrote: Kyle wrote: Hi folks, version 3.0.28-1.el5_2.1 with a share config of; [media] path = /home/shares/media comment = Movies, downl. Videos, Music, etc guest ok = Yes writable = No write list = @restrict force group = +extended according to the man files, everyone in group 'restrict' should have write access irrespective of the 'writable' (read only) param. Does anyone have any ideas why someone in group 'restrict' would NOT be able to write to it pls? I can, but then I'm also the samba admin. Drop the writable = No bit, a share is Read only by default (see read only directive in smb.conf man page). The writable=no is overriding everything else. Of course, test it once configured just to make sure guest can't write to it. Fil And check permissions on the underlying directory..:) -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Document Management Systems or ECM
Grant Allen wrote: Phil Scarratt wrote: Hi all Wondering what people's recommendations/experiences with document management systems (or ECM systems) are? I've got to select a DMS/ECM for a non-profit organisation (actually a publisher) and have Nuxeo, Alfresco and OpenKM on the shortlist. TIA Fil Hi Phil, 11 years in that industry must be good for something, I suppose :-). Of the three DM/ECM products you mention, I have experience with Alfresco, and passing knowledge of Nuxeo (as well as far too many brain cells wasted on their proprietary brethren, e.g. Documentum, TRIM, Stellent/Oracle, IBM Content Manager) There are a few issues outside of technology that you should think about regardless of your choice. Are you after DM, or the whole ECM box-and-dice? (RM, DAM/Image management, Archiving, workflow/bpm, WCM ... and DM). There is overlap, but ECM is a cumbersome beast if all you want is DM. Are you prepared for the cost/effort? Not talking about software here, but the key to successful DM/ECM projects is managing them as a change management exercise, which means people costs. Making the change to a managed DM/ECM environment is often a huge cultural shift, and the best technology can wither and die if the organisation has a bad reaction. On the Alfresco front, it definitely has some advantages. There's local support here in Sydney, the product has a great roadmap, and John Newton's team seem quick to pick up the technology trends in ECM (e.g. they had CMIS prototype support in the same month the standard was announced). Given my particular biases, I like it because it's also technology agnostic under the hood, giving you OS, database and app server choice. Another big plus is that it is definitely a growing product and company. You aren't going to be left with orphan-ware in two years' time :-). Other current trends they seem to be following are heavily tied to collaboration, so if that's a current or future requirement, it has some benefits. Probably the only major gotcha I'd warn about is the enterprise version trap. Some of the nice bells and whistles are only available in the paid version. No problem with this, per se, it's their business model and best of luck to them. They do, however, have an unusual support model where support partners agreeing to partner with Alfresco on the enterprise edition are contractually bound to *not* support the community edition. Again, that's not really a technology issue, more a business one. You are in luck again, as there are both kinds of support available here in Sydney - enterprise partners who only do enterprise support, and other support outfits that support both (without the ent. partner label). Anyway, that's my 2¢. If that raises more questions for you, please feel free to contact me. Very informative, thanks Grant - *much appreciated*. There are really only 2 definite areas that are of interest - DM and workflow. Archiving could potentially be useful, depending on complexity of setup. Collaboration could also be useful, but I have not done any research into what specifically that entails, and hence I am not sure how well that would go with the file formats being used (PDF and Adobe Pagemaker, some Quark Express). The organisation is basically a translator/publisher type deal. Fil -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Document Management Systems or ECM
Hi all Wondering what people's recommendations/experiences with document management systems (or ECM systems) are? I've got to select a DMS/ECM for a non-profit organisation (actually a publisher) and have Nuxeo, Alfresco and OpenKM on the shortlist. TIA Fil -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Getting my GNOME desktop panel back
Amos Shapira wrote: Hello, My son found another trick and somehow wiped all the buttons off my wife's Ubuntu desktop top panel (the one which has Applicationsm, Places, System and a few application buttons). I managed to add a few application buttons back but couldn't find how to put back the lost menus. How can I restore them? Not sure about Places or System, but I think right-clicking on the bar, selecting Add to Panel and then selecting Main Menu should replace the Applications menu. Alternatively there is likely a file in a hidden directory somewhere in your home directory (.gnome or .gnome2) you could delete and then logout and log back in and Gnome would likely recreate the file/directory, thus resetting the panel. Fil -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] How to restart sound?
bill wrote: Quite often after viewing youtube clip in Firefix 3 on Kubuntu 8.10 I lose sound - ie if I load another clip or try to play anything sound-related, - there is no sound. What is the command to restart sound - a Service I assume, but cant see which one. There is perhaps a better way but sudo /etc/init.d/asound restart should do itor maybe it is init.d/pulseaudio now...can't remember Fil -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Calendar Server?
James Dumay wrote: TBH, I've never been able to get Zimbra to work correctly for me - it suffers from timezoning and caldav compatibility issues (Evolution won't work against the version I am using, at least). What sort of problems? I'm having some problems responding to meeting requests - the response goes back with a different time than what the request arrived with. Fil -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] creating svg from open document?
Amos Shapira wrote: Hello, My environment: Ubuntu 8.04 i386. I have a single-page price list borchur in OpenOffice (ODT) format which I'd like to print three times on each sheet of paper. The way I did it before is to create an SVG file with one copy of the page, edit the file with Inkscape to replicate the single copy to have three, then convert it to PDF. I now need to update the content and I can't remember how I did the OpenDocument-SVG conversion. The closest I found googl'ing around is http://graphics.openoffice.org/svg/svg.htm but it doesn't seem to be in a state that I can easily use. Does anyone know how to get this done? If you know of a way to get it done directly from OpenOffice then it'll probably be better, but trying to play with the Print Options in the Open Office Write page-preview haven't come up with more than one copy on any sheet whatever I tried. This is a little late to be replying but I thought printing from Adobe could handle printing multiple copies on one page (ie export ODT to PDF then try and print from PDF to PDF). Fil -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] inbound email checking
Peter Hardy wrote: On Mon, 2008-08-04 at 14:10 +1000, Mary Gardiner wrote: On Tue, Jul 29, 2008, Voytek Eymont wrote: is there any req on me having an 'apache@' address if I'm sending emails as such ? (i.e., who misconfigured their server ?) Sender address verification is a fairly common anti-spam technique. RFC 2821 allows for mail to be rejected based on local policy, and the remote end has chosen to implement a policy whereby the return address must verifiably exist (in the sense of being able to receive the first part of an SMTP transaction) before accepting mail. So it's not a configuration that violates the protocol, that I can see. Whether it's a totally sensible configuration is another question: it tends to interact badly if the sender address in turn greylists incoming mail, for example. But it's unlikely to be accidental on their part. I for one think it's perfectly cromulent. If the sender MX utilises greylisting then it'll send back a transient failure message as distinct from a permanent 550 failure. At that point, the receiving MX can either assume a transient failure means it's normally a valid address and accept the mail, or give back its own transient failure - an eye for an eye if you like. If that's a problem, I'm more inclined to blame it on greylisting. Introducing needless artificial delays strikes me as an incredibly ugly solution for dealing with spam. Can we try changing the subject of this thread? All messages are being moderated. Fil -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: All messages being moderated (Re: [SLUG] inbound email checking)
Mary Gardiner wrote: On Mon, Aug 04, 2008, Phil Scarratt wrote: Can we try changing the subject of this thread? All messages are being moderated. The thread Voytek started is to do with a specific error he got sending a mail from a particular address to a particular mail server. It doesn't have anything to do with message moderation, or SLUG. If you're talking about this list being moderated (and I'm guessing you are, there's not a lot of context in your mail) then: 1. different issue; and 2. not sure what's up with that, maybe the moderators can fill us in? -Mary Apologies for the hasty email and its somewhat lack of context. I am one of the moderators. The thread is being trapped with suspicious headers even though all headers look fine so am guessing at the subject. I have been manually approving all messages in the thread so far. I have no further access to anything to check it out further. The suspicious headers thing has been happening a lot the last few days. Fil -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] upgrading complicated installs
On Thursday 29 May 2008 19:23:16 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: was wondering if anyone has any thoughts. I've got a feisty desktop that has grown like topsy. It's running several services eg: webserver, mail , postgres, mysql, apt-caching, Nvidia proprietary drivers, accounting software, etc etc.. lots of stuff. Probably things I've completely forgotten about. At one time, I changed the UUID's in fstab to the old fashioned /dev id's (because of compatibility issues at the time with Mondo). Some things have been installed from source, some from .deb that I have downloaded, and most from simple apt-get. To complicate things, the box already has 4 hard drives installed, so installing another one for copying is probably not an option. In other words, it's a complete mish-mash. Some things are critical, some important, some trivial. I also made the mistake of using Automatix, and I've read that it has the potential to completely break upgrades. The system works fine, but it's getting old and I want to upgrade to Hardy. I think maybe a complete new Hardy, but what's the way to make sure I don't lose stuff... or is it too late :) I'm sure there is no simple answer, but does anyone have any thoughts or experience? My tuppence worth: install a clean new system. With that kinda mish-mash it probably won't upgrade smoothly. Upgrading twice (feisty-gutsy-hardy) almost definitely not. You'd spend just as much time fixing everything once done as installing from scratch. For what it is worth, I keep track of what specials I put on a box and keep enough disk space in a separate partition (basically partition a drive 50-50) to install the new distribution into, thus being able to boot into either without harming the other, and when happy switch over to the new partition and clear the old, ready for next upgrade whenever that may be. I've had more success and less down-time with that system than upgrading. Fil -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Read MS Access files on Linux (using php?)
Peter Rundle wrote: Sluggers, I've been given some data in .mdb format from one of our lovely government departments. (don't even mention the issue of proprietary formats propagated by public services or I'll scream and possibly kill some brain dead public servant). So I need to read these files and extract the data from them. Google tells me that you can access this data using an ODBC driver but then Google also tells me that this is likely to end in a horror story. However, I believe that I've seen/read somewhere that there are tools available that allow me to open and read the files directly as raw data files. Does anyone know if this is the case and if so what the name of the tools are? I think I've seen it done in PHP but thought that might have been a specially compiled version of PHP or an object library added to the PHP. The PHP on the server I've got to use is a standard version from a distribution and I don't want to pollute it with binary libraries of possible. I know with a Pear module of some sort installed, PHP can read/write Excel files. It is possible the same is doable with Access files. Of course, it is also possible that it is not the case. Fil -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Joomla Opinions requested
Peter Rundle wrote: Sluggers, I'm looking for a Content Management System written in PHP, Joomla has been recommended. However I'm a little disappointed to find that it is tied to MYSQL and doesn't use a generic dbms interface such as Adodb. The application that I have in mind will probably make use of the postgresql gis extensions. Does anyone have any opinions on Joomla, whether it can be bent onto Postgres or recommendations for an alternative. The application that I'm developing contains most of your common web site functions, from moderately static type information pages, to more dynamic content, along with user accounts that mostly just granting access to restricted areas of the site and probably the ability for each user to edit their own own details. There will also be a mapping component (more than likely using google maps), and the need to store some polygonal and other GIS based data (hence the requirement for posgresql GIS). Having used Joomla once (ok maybe twice) and Drupal once, my first impression was Joomla was overly complicated where Drupal was clearer/simpler. I've had other people say similar things. Code is probably similar to usage experience, if you are looking to modify - but I can't vouch for it as I've never looked at their code (actually not true but only in the very vaguest of manner have I looked at the code for either). Not that I am pushing one or the other, but MySQL has spatial extensions also. Fil -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] asd
Jobst Schmalenbach wrote: Hi. How can I stop this net to appear? 169.254.0.0 * 255.255.0.0 U 0 0 0 eth3 Whenever I stop and start one of my network cards on one of my servers, this net appears and stuffs up DHCP on a WIFI router that is attached to that machine. I do not have the ETH port running that has the WIFI router attached at all times (for security reasons). I know I can do route del -net 169.254.0.0 netmask 255.255.0.0 to delete the route, but I'd rather have not show it up in the first place. There got to be some setting to stop this net appearing in the kernel routing table. You need to tell your card to not do zero config stuff. How you do this depends on the distribution. Redhat based distributions you add nozeroconfig to the appropriate ifcfg-ethx file in /etc/network-scripts/networking/ (or something like that - memory is a but rusty). Ubuntu (and probably debian) editing the /etc/network/interfaces file should do the trick. Fil -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] receiving Attachments.
Chris Allen wrote: For mu emails, I use Evolution 2.6.1 on Ubuntu LTS Some friends try to send me attachments created as DOC or XLS files on their MS boxes or even as PDF files. This works sometimes bur not always. 2 or 3 time now the attachment has listed in the email as a file named winmail.dat which I cannot read. Can any one make sense of this? Microsoft Outlook can use a particular format of email called rich text - which only Outlook can read (not even Outlook Express can). The effect on all other email readers is that emails arrive with winmail.dat attachments - the email is sent out with the body of the message as plain text and the formatted body plus any attachments all bundled up into winmail.dat. To extract any attachments there are readers online and downloadable that will unpack the winmail.dat and dump the body and attachments out. Users of Microsoft outlook can select to use rich text editing or not. I'd suggest telling them to not do so. Fil -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] [ot] cheap sms?
Adrian Chadd wrote: On Tue, Mar 11, 2008, Martin Visser wrote: On Tue, Mar 11, 2008 at 12:52 PM, Adrian Chadd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 160 bytes a transaction (normal SMS length), 2000 a day is roughly 300 kilobytes uncompressed. * 31 days is ~ 10 gig of data. ^^^ ~ 10 Meg me thinks Oops, didn't group reply; 160*2000 32 160*2000*31 992 992 is in bytes -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] motherboard error signals
Tony Sceats wrote: I'd suggest you do that then, although in my experience it has usually been the CPU or the RAM that's faulty if you're getting beeps. if you can't find the full manual, try taking out all the PCI cards then remove RAM chips and/or the CPU.. not that it will be useful without RAM or a CPU, but may give you an idea what is wrong On Sun, Mar 9, 2008 at 10:19 AM, Donovan, Jim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tony, I did - see http://america.giga-byte.com/FileList/Manual/motherboard_manual_ga-8i3.pdf which doesn't mention codes, although it does mention on pages 13 and 23 downloading the Complete Version manual. Could also be dud video card/slot -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Xorg Multiple Monitors
jam wrote: On Friday 07 March 2008 10:00:04 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: please post xorg.conf xorg.conf follows with irrelevant bits snipped (ie Files, InputDevice sections). Current setup is TwinView off the 8600. I am sure there are a few (lots?) of options which are not needed, but the plan was to get it working then look at all the options one at a time. [snip] valueless if the modules and kernel don't match and play nice. Look at your log file as I posted earlier Yeah - all is fine getting twinview running manually. I've got the two monitors going, log file looks OK (removed a few of the options reported as not used in the log file) but the maximising of windows is still a real nuisance. I'm concluding (perhaps erroneously) that it is actually a metacity thing not respecting xinerama info. If that is the case compiz also doesn't respect it cause I have the same trouble running compiz (running metacity now cause compiz had weird issues with the 1920x1200 resolution screen - bottom 1/5th of the screen went black after logging on, but that is another issue). I think I might go back to enlightenment Fil -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Xorg Multiple Monitors
Hi I've been beating my head against this for many hours now (and not the first time either), trawling through endless Google results, howto's manuals, and hints, and still no further. I am trying to get multiple monitors (just 2 for now, 3 eventually) going using a two-head GeForce 8600 card. I also have a GeForce 7100 in the same system. At this stage I don't care what card/outputs are used to achieve the desired outcome. I can get multiple monitors going with Nvidia's TwinView, except windows maximise to the full desktop width, instead of just one monitor - which is real annoying. I used to have this running on Ubuntu Fiesty (it may have been Dapper, not sure, but I was also running E17 at the time) - I am now running standard Gutsy (except for binary nvidia drivers - the latest). Any hints/urls/comments that are helpful/funny or otherwise would be much appreciated. Failing this, my next port of call is to join the xorg lists/forums and ask there. Fil -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Xorg Multiple Monitors
Peter Rundle wrote: Phil, I'm currently running dual monitors on FC5 with a Matrox G400. I have my machine setup dual boot with Gutsy but cannot get it to do dual monitors in spite of all the googling I've done. My problem appears to be that it requires the binaries from Matrox to support the second screen. The open source drivers from Xorg just don't support this card in dual screen mode. Matrox have stopped supporting the binaries past xorg 7.0.0, but have released the source code (though I can't get it to compile on Gutsy yet). X -version on Gutsy give 1.3.0 which is kinda confusing as the older FC5 gives 7.0.0. So I'm currently stuck with FC5 until I can get a driver for the card that supports dual screens to load into Xorg 1.3.0. I can send you my org.conf file that works in FC5, if that helps but honestly it's nothing special and you are using different cards anyway. There are lots and lots of examples on the net of twin screen setups but I've tried them all and none of them work (besides you'd think that my best chance was the config I have for FC5 that does work). I think that you're problem is probably the same as mine, that is there's an issue with the driver, maybe there is some config option that you can put into xorg that will put the card into dual screen mode, but I don't know what that might be. Not sure this helps you much accept that you're not alone with being unable to get Gutsy to run dual. Thanks Pete. Sounds very simnilar to my experience - a thousand examples on the net and none of them work in my case. There has got to be something small missing...:( Fil -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Xorg Multiple Monitors
Dean Hamstead wrote: twinview merges the two screens in the driver save yourself the pain, sudo nvidia-settings and use the happy gui then set them up as seperate screens. i have personally set up a machine with 8 screens (4 dual head hards) with current nvidia hardware. what you are after is achievable! Dean That's what I keep reading - all very achievable. In fact with this machine I specifically got nvidia hardware instead of ati cause my reading indicated nvidia had better support in this area. So far my experience tells me ati was better. In any case, I've tried the nvidia-settings, which seemed to be the way but it refuses to acknowledge the fact that I am already using the nvidia driver (as opposed to nv). Every time I try and open it, it spits up the message You do not appear to be using the NVIDIA X driver. Please edit your X configuration.and restart the X Server, regardless of whether nv or nvidia is in the xorg.conf file. Which basically means I've got to resort to manual method. Fil -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Xorg Multiple Monitors
Dean Hamstead wrote: please post xorg.conf xorg.conf follows with irrelevant bits snipped (ie Files, InputDevice sections). Current setup is TwinView off the 8600. I am sure there are a few (lots?) of options which are not needed, but the plan was to get it working then look at all the options one at a time. xorg.conf Section Monitor Identifier Acer Option DPMS EndSection Section Monitor Identifier CMV Option DPMS EndSection Section Device Identifier GeForce 8600 Boardname nVidia Corporation G80 [GeForce 8600 GT] Busid PCI:1:0:0 Driver nvidia Option CursorShadow1 Option Coolbits1 Option NoPowerConnectorCheck Option TwinView1 Option RenderAccel true Option AllowGLXWithComposite true Option ConnectedMonitorcrt,dfp Option SecondMonitorHorizSync UseEdidFreqs Option SecondMonitorVertRefreshUseEdidFreqs Option TwinViewOrientation RightOf Option metamodes CRT: 1920x1200+0+0, DFP: 1280x1024+1920+176; Option AddARGBVisuals True Option AddARGBGLXVisuals True Option NoLogo True EndSection Section Device Identifier GeForce 7100 Boardname ECS Elitegroup nVidia GeForce 7100 GS Busid PCI:2:0:0 Driver nvidia Vendorname NVIDIA Option TwinView0 Option CursorShadow1 Option Coolbits1 Option RenderAccel true Option AllowGLXWithComposite true Option NoPowerConnectorCheck Option ConnectedMonitorcrt EndSection Section Screen Identifier Screen Acer Device GeForce 8600 Monitor ACER Defaultdepth24 # Option AddARGBGLXVisuals true # Option DisableGLXRootClipping true # Option metamodes CRT: 1920x1200 SubSection Display Depth 24 EndSubSection EndSection Section Screen Identifier Screen CMV Device GeForce 7100 Monitor CMV Defaultdepth24 # Option AddARGBGLXVisuals true # Option DisableGLXRootClipping true # Option metamodes CRT: 1280x1024; SubSection Display Depth 24 EndSubSection EndSection Section ServerFlags Option Xinerama1 EndSection Section ServerLayout Identifier Default Layout screen Screen Acer Option XineramaInfo1920x1200+0+0, 1280x1024+1920+176 Inputdevice Generic Keyboard Inputdevice Configured Mouse EndSection Section Module Loadglx # LoadGLcore Loadv4l Loaddbe Loadextmod Loadfreetype Loadglx EndSection -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] do I need /dev/snd for ALSA, if so how to create it ?
Rod Butcher wrote: greetings from sunny Northmead ! I've cruised along with a 2.6.18 kernel that I compiled myself, for a while now, on a Gigabtye board with NVidia NForce 430 southbridge, AMD Athlon X2 cpu. For various reasons I've had to upgrade to the 2.6.24.3 kernel, so I compiled it with Mandrake's 4.02 gcc compiler. No problems, up and running with X OK. But no ALSA sound now. SNIP/ But ALSA can't detect the sound card. All apps return error messages saying device not found. E.g. : bash-3.00#aplay --list-devices aplay: device_list:207: no soundcards found... bash-3.00# alsamixer alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such file or directory Yet the device shows up in /proc :- bash-3.00# cat /proc/asound/cards 0 [NVidia ]: HDA-Intel - HDA NVidia HDA NVidia at 0xf510 irq 22 SNIP/ So - why no /dev/snd, do I really need it for ALSA, and why was it automagically there for my old kernel ? Any doco around on this that goes into nuts and bolts ? thanks Rod No idea if this will help or not but you could try checking your asoundrc file http://www.alsa-project.org/main/index.php/Asoundrc if you haven't already. For comparison sake, I have /dev/snd/ which has a whole pile of devices from each card in it (eg pcmC0xxx, pcmC1xxx, etc - I have 2 sound cards) and a sndstat file. Fil -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] French police take up linux
May be old news to some, but just in case :) http://news.smh.com.au/french-police-deal-blow-to-microsoft/20080130-1p2v.html The French paramilitary police force said Wednesday it is ditching Microsoft for the free Linux operating system, becoming one of the biggest administrations in the world to make the break. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Restricting access to certain IP addresses with OpenVPN
Andre Kolodochka wrote: Hi sluggers, We have OpenVPN server running internally for employees to access our network from home. We have a request from a potential client to access some internal demo systems. They are happy to install and use OpenVPN client, however I won't be happy giving them the full access to our network. Hence the question. Is it possible to restrict access for certain users only to specific set of IP addresses? So everyone except this client will be able to use VPN to access everything on the network as usual and potential client will be able to access only boxes on those specific IP addresses? What you should be able to do is configure OpenVPN to always assign the client the same IP address (I believe that is documented in OpenVPN sample conf file), then you could use iptables to restrict that client IP address access to the network... Fil -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Restricting access to certain IP addresses with OpenVPN
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Quoting Andre Kolodochka [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi sluggers, We have OpenVPN server running internally for employees to access our network from home. We have a request from a potential client to access some internal demo systems. They are happy to install and use OpenVPN client, however I won't be happy giving them the full access to our network. Hence the question. Is it possible to restrict access for certain users only to specific set of IP addresses? So everyone except this client will be able to use VPN to access everything on the network as usual and potential client will be able to access only boxes on those specific IP addresses? I'm interested in achieving exactly that also within our project. The situation that we have is that our remote support people want to access the server and then go out to individual (possibly windows) workstations on the network. They can do that at the moment by opening vnc on the server and using the remote desktop client to go to the client machines. That is not ideal, but it does work. It would be really handy to be able to run some sort of script on the server to allow this to happen easily. It's really good to here that there is actually so much expertise in this area on the mailing list. I am myself trying to come up with an easy gui interface, maybe in python, just to select all the hosts that would be available in the remote site. Click one and open access. So I am interested in what others are doing here... You could simply use a web page that is dynamically updated (if needed) with info as to what machines are available on the network. Clicking on links could then open a vnc connection using the java applet that vnc comes with. This way, remote staff vpn in to the network - get access to the intranet page with all machines listed (maybe with some sort of authentication) and simply click to open a vnc session to that machine. Without giving it much thought, there are likely to be security issues though -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Call for the likeminded.. Assistance with Local Linux Distro
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello everybody.. I have stumbled into something which I think is too big for me and I am looking to reach out to people who might find some value. By Trade, I am a Programmer/Project Manager. Last year I worked at the Department of Commerce and they were talking about this and that with Open Source.. they kindof gave me the idea that a corporate linux to bung on servers like redhat would be useful out there. I have personally liked SLAMPP, SME-Server, Redhat... Debian... etc When I talk to some businesses in small business land and they are all interested in servers half the price of redmond with dial in support ability. If it was Linux then they don't mind either. Here in Australia, we are so lucky. We have everything. I think we could do a really server based distro for the world stage. The questions that I have are: - are there enough experts here to do it ? - is there a will ? - how to organise it ? My general observations are: - needs to be debian based - start with an SME server (FileServer 2008) - make it commercially viable and supportable Ok... if you have any comments go for it maybe I need to offer some free beer or other bribes but places like China... it is growing rapidly... having our own distro there is a sensible thing for us to be doing I simply use the server version of ubuntu and apt-get any other extras I may or may not need depending on the function of the server. I guess you are talking about not having to do the extra install the other things? Fil -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Call for the likeminded.. Assistance with Local Linux Distro
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Quoting Phil Scarratt [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I simply use the server version of ubuntu and apt-get any other extras I may or may not need depending on the function of the server. Yes.. but it takes some time to do all that... I guess you are talking about not having to do the extra install the other things? Exactly.. Have all the other things ready, even on a live-cd to give to a customer. All they do is insert the CD in some-machine, and it creates a vpn link back with all the packages loaded.. ready for the support-staff to admin... in addition, the support-staff can use RADMIN/RDP or VNC or whatever to support all the windows machines on the lan also. That will create support opportunities and the chance to build up ongoing monthly incomes, depending on how many businesses the support-company can sign up. I know a lot of IT-support companies would like to use linux a lot more but the problem is that the current distros aren't really configured in such a way that enables them to make money from them directly. That is the big reason why i think there is space for a distro/derivative. The problem is what do you include - as what a server has installed can depend greatly on its purpose. Are you suggesting a CD/DVD that a support company can put into a new server and it installs everything needed for a particular purpose? Fil -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] New Federal Govt's Education/PC plans
People, Given that the new PM, Kevin Rudd, has indicated that ensuring that every senior high school student has a PC is the number one priority for the new government - has there been any discussion about how the FOSS community is going to respond to this? It seems we should be working on proposals immediately. My personal view is that the government should make an in-principle decision to install a FOSS OS on the PCs and let the users (schools) decide if they want to change to a MS OS (at their own cost). I think the PC should be just a wireless client that can be easily reset to factory defaults and all the apps and data should be handled centrally ala gmail etc. Of course a FOSS solution like this will need a support network, maybe something resembling: http://www.healthnetwork.com.au/ ie http://www.schoolnetwork.org.au/ ? Regards, Phil. -- Philip Rhoades Pricom Pty Limited (ACN 003 252 275 ABN 91 003 252 275) GPO Box 3411 Sydney NSW 2001 Australia Fax: +61:(0)2-8221-9599 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] RegEx question
Rick Welykochy wrote: Stuart Guthrie wrote: Not being a regex expert I was hoping someone could point me at a list, forum or just give me a pointer on how to achieve this: Field that must have 2 out of 3 of these: standard a-z/A-Z arabic numbers 0-9 special chars %$#@ [EMAIL PROTECTED]|[A-Za-z0-9]+|[EMAIL PROTECTED] I'm not sure that would exclude 00 or 09 or some such combinationneeds and and logic in there somewhere and probably grouping Fil -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] RegEx question
Rick Welykochy wrote: Stuart Guthrie wrote: Not being a regex expert I was hoping someone could point me at a list, forum or just give me a pointer on how to achieve this: Field that must have 2 out of 3 of these: standard a-z/A-Z arabic numbers 0-9 special chars %$#@ [EMAIL PROTECTED]|[A-Za-z0-9]+|[EMAIL PROTECTED] Maybe something like [EMAIL PROTECTED](?(?=[A-Za-z])[EMAIL PROTECTED]|[EMAIL PROTECTED])$ Fil -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] RegEx question
Phil Scarratt wrote: Rick Welykochy wrote: Stuart Guthrie wrote: Not being a regex expert I was hoping someone could point me at a list, forum or just give me a pointer on how to achieve this: Field that must have 2 out of 3 of these: standard a-z/A-Z arabic numbers 0-9 special chars %$#@ [EMAIL PROTECTED]|[A-Za-z0-9]+|[EMAIL PROTECTED] Maybe something like [EMAIL PROTECTED](?(?=[A-Za-z])[EMAIL PROTECTED]|[EMAIL PROTECTED])$ Actually on second thought you may want to drop the first ?. It also depends on whether the characters specified in the above 3 conditions are the only allowable characters or not. Fil -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] RegEx question
Phil Scarratt wrote: Rick Welykochy wrote: Stuart Guthrie wrote: Not being a regex expert I was hoping someone could point me at a list, forum or just give me a pointer on how to achieve this: Field that must have 2 out of 3 of these: standard a-z/A-Z arabic numbers 0-9 special chars %$#@ [EMAIL PROTECTED]|[A-Za-z0-9]+|[EMAIL PROTECTED] Maybe something like [EMAIL PROTECTED](?(?=[A-Za-z])[EMAIL PROTECTED]|[EMAIL PROTECTED])$ Fil Cause I can't leave it alone: ^([A-Za-z]+|[0-9]+|[EMAIL PROTECTED])(?(?=[A-Za-z])[EMAIL PROTECTED]|[EMAIL PROTECTED]).*$ Fil -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] PCI bus oddity
OK I resolved this by getting a beta version of the BIOS for the board, not the best solution but the only one open to us. Thanks Phil wrote: Hi We are running a dual opteron setup, with a Tyan n6650 motherboard. We need to power 4 screens so we installed dual GeForce 8600 GT cards. Apart from nvidia driver issues we are also seeing that the PCI bus ID changes between reboots for each of the graphic cards or both. Has anyone seen this behaviour before? If so how do we fix it? Thanks Phil. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] PCI bus oddity
Hi We are running a dual opteron setup, with a Tyan n6650 motherboard. We need to power 4 screens so we installed dual GeForce 8600 GT cards. Apart from nvidia driver issues we are also seeing that the PCI bus ID changes between reboots for each of the graphic cards or both. Has anyone seen this behaviour before? If so how do we fix it? Thanks Phil. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Bluetooth Headsets
Richard Neal wrote: Sorry just found out kmail doesnt do hyperlinking. The Plantronics Voyager 510 is a bluetooth device, I have sold a truck load of them over the last year so I should know :-) http://www.plantronics.com.au/australia/aus/products/cat5180073/cat5180073/prod5530003;jsessionid=1I1YRWMMBHZRQCQBGNUCFFAKAEZWSIV0 Thanks H...don't know which 510 I was looking at then Fil -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Bluetooth Headsets
Richard Neal wrote: The actual headset itself is peripheral, what hardware your using to interface with the PC is what really matters. The Plantronics Voyager 510USB bluetooth headset works with Ubuntu (http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=459977). I should get the whole Plantronics USB range and test them (Im a rep), but as far as I know they should all work. Xandros had some deal with Plantronics a year ago to sell their distro with a Plantronics USB headset ( http://www.ixsoft.de/software/products/XASL0300BX.html ). Unfortunately the 510 is not bluetooth, but they have bluetooth headsets which I may try - a little more pricey than I was hoping though :( Fil -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Bluetooth Headsets
Hi Have many people had success with getting bluetooth headsets working? I use Ubuntu Dapper/Feisty. Fil -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] ssh questions
Voytek Eymont wrote: On Tue, June 5, 2007 11:57 am, Phil Scarratt wrote: Voytek Eymont wrote: my logs are littered with the usual failed login crap; yes, if only to save the crap in the logs. Any port above say 4 should do I would think, but you may have other restrictions depending on the firewalls from behind which you need access - if they restrict outgoing port numbers then you are unlikely to be able to use that range. thanks, Fil yes, that's a better idea than buying latger HD (for the logs) what about a low port, I saw a suggestion like port 14 ? what command to see used ports ? I believe netstat will list listening ports/sockets on a system. Of course, it goes without saying that changing the port is not replacement for good security measures such as password strength, keys, etc etc. Fil -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] ssh questions
Voytek Eymont wrote: On Tue, June 5, 2007 11:57 am, Phil Scarratt wrote: Voytek Eymont wrote: my logs are littered with the usual failed login crap; yes, if only to save the crap in the logs. Any port above say 4 should do I would think, but you may have other restrictions depending on the firewalls from behind which you need access - if they restrict outgoing port numbers then you are unlikely to be able to use that range. thanks, Fil yes, that's a better idea than buying latger HD (for the logs) what about a low port, I saw a suggestion like port 14 ? what command to see used ports ? The /etc/services file lists common ports that are assigned. You really need to checkout IANA (iana.org) for the official list though. Fil -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] ssh questions
Voytek Eymont wrote: my logs are littered with the usual failed login crap; is moving ssh to a different port 'good idea' ? preferabley some port that will still allow me access from various places. what port ? port range ? yes, if only to save the crap in the logs. Any port above say 4 should do I would think, but you may have other restrictions depending on the firewalls from behind which you need access - if they restrict outgoing port numbers then you are unlikely to be able to use that range. Fil -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] ssh questions
Voytek Eymont wrote: if I'm on an ssh connection, how do I restart sshd...? shouldn't the ssh session I'm on drop me off ? # service sshd status sshd (pid 13182 10855 10853 7350 7348) is running... # service sshd restart Stopping sshd: [ OK ] Starting sshd: [ OK ] # service sshd status sshd (pid 13216 10855 10853 7350 7348) is running... SSH starts another process for each connection, and restarting sshd like that does not kill existing connections (in redhat's case anyway). Hence you can do the restart and it won't drop out. Fil -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] JFS on RAID Disappeared
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tuesday 15 May 2007 10:00, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not sure if this is a dumb question, but why use JFS2? I imagine the market share of JFS2 on Linux is probably only a few percent, whereas EXT3 is probably 80% plus. While there may be some technical advantages of JFS2, I imagine the level of support available is going to be much less - so is it worth the risk? Regards, Martin Just as there are lots of screwdrivers and not one single type of screwdriver for all jobs, you use the best screwdriver for the specific job. It is similar with file systems - there is not one system that is suitable to all tasks. Specifically in this case google mythtv and filesystems. Martin makes a good point, and while yours is valid too, *it bit me* is a very significant lesson. True, but just because MS has the biggest market share does not mean I am going to run Windows (I'm sure there is more support available for windows too). Don't get me wrong, for everything else I run ext3 because, as Martin says, it seems to be the defacto and most widely used. It is just that in this case I was taking the advice of the Myth people and not using ext3. BTW I've never seen any mention of JFS wrt myth. XFS has touted advantages and I use it for my 300G store, but ext3 has worked flawlessly on 300G too. (mostly 5-10G files) The myth site mentions JFS. It claims it is arguable as to which is better JFS or XFS. More searching seemed to verify what the myth people claimed about JFS and XFS so it basically came down to Myth's claims that JFS is the best at deletion, however marginally that may be I'm sure. If it doesn't work out, or XFS is the more prevalent/supported/maintained of the 2 then yeah, I'd probably consider moving to XFS. I really have no stick-it-out-through-everything-loyalty to JFS. Fil -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] JFS on RAID Disappeared
Jeff Waugh wrote: quote who=Phil Scarratt I really have no stick-it-out-through-everything-loyalty to JFS. ... but ain't it painful that choosing filesystems (sensibly) generally involves actively using them with data you care about for a reasonable period of time? :-) :( unfortunately yes...I just don't seem to be able to find someone to pay me to spend oodles of time testing my myth filesystem before it goes into production Fil -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] JFS on RAID Disappeared
Martin Visser wrote: Not sure if this is a dumb question, but why use JFS2? I imagine the market share of JFS2 on Linux is probably only a few percent, whereas EXT3 is probably 80% plus. While there may be some technical advantages of JFS2, I imagine the level of support available is going to be much less - so is it worth the risk? Regards, Martin Just as there are lots of screwdrivers and not one single type of screwdriver for all jobs, you use the best screwdriver for the specific job. It is similar with file systems - there is not one system that is suitable to all tasks. Specifically in this case google mythtv and filesystems. Fil -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] JFS on RAID Disappeared
Hi all I've got a raid (1+0) system which I formatted as JFS. It has worked fine for weeks now. The power dropped out suddenly this morning whilst reading from the RAID via NFS. On reboot, the RAID is empty - won't mount. Complains about fs type, which, even if specified as JFS still complains (wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/md2, missing codepage or other error). I am trying my best a Google, but can't come up with the correct search phrase, or any other hints from man pages either. All partitions on the 4 drives are OK, seem intact. I'm running Ubuntu Dapper. TIA Fil -- Phil Scarratt Draxsen Technologies m: 0403 531 271 -- -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] JFS on RAID Disappeared
Phil Scarratt wrote: Hi all I've got a raid (1+0) system which I formatted as JFS. It has worked fine for weeks now. The power dropped out suddenly this morning whilst reading from the RAID via NFS. On reboot, the RAID is empty - won't mount. Complains about fs type, which, even if specified as JFS still complains (wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/md2, missing codepage or other error). A hint for my own problem: it may have been caused by a badly configured mdadm.conf file (and this may well be the first time the system was rebooted since generating the mdadm.conf file). Fil -- Phil Scarratt Draxsen Technologies m: 0403 531 271 -- -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] JFS on RAID Disappeared
Phil Scarratt wrote: Phil Scarratt wrote: Hi all I've got a raid (1+0) system which I formatted as JFS. It has worked fine for weeks now. The power dropped out suddenly this morning whilst reading from the RAID via NFS. On reboot, the RAID is empty - won't mount. Complains about fs type, which, even if specified as JFS still complains (wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/md2, missing codepage or other error). A hint for my own problem: it may have been caused by a badly configured mdadm.conf file (and this may well be the first time the system was rebooted since generating the mdadm.conf file). Answering my own question: RTFM in 3 steps: 1. man mkfs.jfs and note that the jfs file system check utility is jfs_fsck 2. man jfs_fsck and then execute jfs_fsck /dev/md2 3. mount it Hsomeone feels like an idiot... Fil -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] JFS on RAID Disappeared
David Lloyd wrote: Phil, A hint for my own problem: it may have been caused by a badly configured mdadm.conf file (and this may well be the first time the system was rebooted since generating the mdadm.conf file). Answering my own question: RTFM in 3 steps: 1. man mkfs.jfs and note that the jfs file system check utility is jfs_fsck 2. man jfs_fsck and then execute jfs_fsck /dev/md2 3. mount it Hsomeone feels like an idiot... And when making software RAID, check that it works with as little data as possible so that when you do put your terabytes of *cough* pictures and movies *cough* on it, you won't lose it when you do reboot for whatever reason. Indeed a good idea. In this case I hadn't put all that much on it - just under 5GB, all of which I have other backups of still. On second thought though, and after looking through the logs, I don't think the mdadm.conf was misconfigured, as it found md2 fine according to the logs on reboot. I think it was a simple matter of corruption in the fs tables or bad superblock or some other jfs corruption caused by sudden drop out. I guess another good idea is to protect with a UPS of some sort - they are relatively cheap (compared to losing all the data) and only need offer a minute or 2 up time to be able to unmount the partition correctly and shutdown. Fil -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] JFS on RAID Disappeared
David Lloyd wrote: Phil, sudden drop out. I guess another good idea is to protect with a UPS of some sort - they are relatively cheap (compared to losing all the data) and only need offer a minute or 2 up time to be able to unmount the partition correctly and shutdown. True; I wonder whether there's been any serious study done on what common file systems actually do when the power just goes out from underneath them. No idea. Would be interesting to know. Most of my experience has been with ext3 which, at least in my experience, handles a power drop out quite well - on rare occasions have I had to repair the filesystem. But then again, it probably depends greatly on what it was doing at the time. Fil -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] I'd like to know...
P. G. Schmitt wrote: Looking at installing for the first time. The drive is currently NTFS. Will Linux install to this or do I need to redo it as FAT(32)? Will Linux read NTFS formatted partitions? Thanks, Paul. Currently, out of the box, it will read NTFS but not write it so you will have to change it if you want to install Linux to the NTFS partition. I would suggest either freeing up space to be able to make multiple partitions, run one as ext3 with Linux, the other leave as Windows, or if you don't care about what is on the drive or about being able to read it from windows, wipe the drive and put ext3 on it. Fil -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Checking my understanding of using DynDNS.org services.
Michael Lake wrote: Hi all I have to really get mutt setup for replying to email and it looks like DynDNS is what I need but I'd like to check here that my understanding is correct. SNIP It says one relay is counted for each recipient of a message you send. That is, one message, sent to 50 recipients, counts as 50 relays. 50 different messages, each sent to only one recipient, also counts as 50 relays. I don't send many messages per day, probably just several a day. Question: I presume that an email to slug@slug.org.au will be one relay? Yes Does anyone here use such a service and have I got things correct in my understanding? I've used the MailHop Outbound service in the past and you are correct...but why not use a GMail account? The instance where I was using the MailHop Outbound service, I replaced with a gmail account satisfactorily. or change ISP ;) Fil -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Checking my understanding of using DynDNS.org services.
Michael Lake wrote: I have a gmail account but I rarely use it. I get all my mail in via fetchmail and read it with mutt and then I want to reply to something from mutt by just hitting reply. Copying from mutt into any other email system is a pain and I shouldn't be doing silly things like that. I need to do some work and get it setup correctly. I meant I have used gmail's SMTP server to send from an email client on a laptop before, the laptop connecting to the internet with different internet connections depending on the country at the time. The from address was not gmail's - I can't specifically remember now but I think gmail may have added an extra header to indicate that it was sent via gmail. No copying and pasting or anything. Download the mail from your domain's mailbox, read it with whatever you want, reply and send it via gmail's servers (from memory it was an authenticated, encrypted connection to a non-standard SMTP port). The user I set this up for was moving around a number of countries, and hence internet providers with different SMTP requirements. Most ISP's were like the bigpond situation you are facing, forcing the from to be the ISP's provided email address. Also, there aren't that many ISP's worth using who allow usage of their SMTP servers from outside their own network anyway. I also couldn't have the user reconfiguring their SMTP server settings whenever they changed ISP/country anyway. MailHop Outbound saved the day at first, then gmail filled the gap. Fil -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Checking my understanding of using DynDNS.org services.
Robert Thorsby wrote: If you intend your ISP to be your real mailserver then there is no need for you to set up any of the Big 4 as your internal mailserver. In fact, mutt (and most other MUAs) have a setting sendmail=... or similar that simply gets interpreted as send the mail using sendmail/postfix/exim/qmail, thus using a sledgehammer to crack walnuts. You can use **any** deliver-only utility for this -- the only problem occurs when you try to send via mutt (or whatever) when offline -- most deliver-only utilities do not have a queueing or queue-flushing function. The problem with this is that these days you need to use an upstream smtp server as opposed to being one yourself to get the message delivered correctly. A lot of MTA's these days refuse to accept messages from the home-server type MTA which forces people to use their ISP's SMTP, but in the case of some bigpond accounts (namely dynamic ip address accounts), it forces all messages to go out as if from the bigpond email address of the conneciton account - not very useful when you have your own domain. Fil -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Checking my understanding of using DynDNS.org services.
Robert Thorsby wrote: You are right -- my response was not very well worded. All the lightweight MTAs hand off delivery to the upstream (ISPs) server. The real problem is, indeed, when you have your own domain name (as do I). I have never used frogpond but I have had no problem with my previous ISP, nor my current one, in using my domain name -- they have simply accepted that my mailing address is robertatthorsbydotcomdotau rather than [EMAIL PROTECTED] However, current ISP inserts a (may be forged) into the first Received header whener I send mail through him from [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- I shall be speaking to him later this week. There are some pond accounts which will allow it, just not all. I've never had trouble, with either my current or previous ISP either. Fil -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Checking my understanding of using DynDNS.org services.
Michael Lake wrote: Phil Scarratt wrote: I meant I have used gmail's SMTP server to send from an email client on a laptop before, the laptop connecting to the internet with different internet connections depending on the country at the time. The from address was not gmail's - I can't specifically remember now but I think gmail may have added an extra header to indicate that it was sent via gmail. No copying and pasting or anything. Download the mail from your domain's mailbox, read it with whatever you want, reply and send it via gmail's servers (from memory it was an authenticated, encrypted connection to a non-standard SMTP port). I didn't understand your suggestion at first as I didnt know one could use gmail for this. I googled and have found this very easily. Set your POP client to route outbound mail to smtp.google.com with port 465 and SSL enabled and use your Gmail login credentials. and also here: http://lifehacker.com/software/email-apps/how-to-use-gmail-as-your-smtp-server-66.php I'll try this at home tonight or when I get a chance. This goes to show that making a post here can be so rewarding. Thanks Phil. Your welcome! Just check out the extra header - it doesn't interfere with the regular email stuff (replying, sending, etc), but I think some clients will display extra, non-standard headers which may make your email not look professional (Thunderbird I think displayed the extra header, not sure about others). This could well have changed by now anyway. The only other thing to be aware of is that I think any mail sent through gmail gets stored in your gmail sent mailbox - not likely to be a problem as google account storage must be close to 3GB by now. Fil -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Checking my understanding of using DynDNS.org services.
Michael Lake wrote: Hi Mike wrote: and also here: http://lifehacker.com/software/email-apps/how-to-use-gmail-as-your-smtp-server-66.php Byron Hillis wrote: That link says that gmail rewrites the from and reply-to addresses to your gmail address. Yeah I saw that when I read into it in more detail. It also looks like you have to have SSL setup too. I'll try it sometime this week but I don't think its a 5 minute thing to setup. I certainly want my from: to be [EMAIL PROTECTED] This was sent via gmail Fil -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Checking my understanding of using DynDNS.org services.
Michael Lake wrote: Phil Scarratt wrote: This was sent via gmail Great. The headers are fine and dont show the gmail when I click reply so looks very useful. I think Gmail will be fine for what I need. I'll work on that when I have my laptop handy. The only issue I can see is if you have different email addresses that you send from. Then it wouldn't work...or you would keep having to change the default sending from address in gmail. Fil -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Checking my understanding of using DynDNS.org services.
Phil Scarratt wrote: Michael Lake wrote: Hi Mike wrote: and also here: http://lifehacker.com/software/email-apps/how-to-use-gmail-as-your-smtp-server-66.php Byron Hillis wrote: That link says that gmail rewrites the from and reply-to addresses to your gmail address. Yeah I saw that when I read into it in more detail. It also looks like you have to have SSL setup too. I'll try it sometime this week but I don't think its a 5 minute thing to setup. I certainly want my from: to be [EMAIL PROTECTED] This was sent via gmail from my workstation using Thunderbird that is... Fil -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] e-mail content filter
John wrote: Hi list, I've just had someone try and send me an e-mail with a .zip file attached containing a .exe file. It was rejected and an automatic message sent back to the sender explaining the situation. This is great you'd suppose but it isn't the way I'd like this to happen. What I'd like to happen is the message be accepted, quarantined perhaps, and a message sent to me allowing me to decide whether to allow it and take the risk. I've search the various config files on the server; postfix, courier-maildrop, amavis, clam etc. without finding where this is set up. A signpost would be appreciated and any suggestions as to how I might achieve my desired configuration. This probably doesn't help...gmail does that - as in rejects zip attachments with .exe in them. Fil -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] IPTABLES rule change to allow interface with AD
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We have a server running in a DMZ servicing intranet and extranet. In the past we have blocked all traffic originating on the server from the two internal networks we run (eth1 and eth2) but have accepted traffic coming from the networks outside of the server. Eth0 is the direct connection to the internet and a solid state firewall looks after port redirection to eth0. No traffic is blocked on eth0 so that we can apply patches and updates to the server (Mandriva 2007). The tables below have done the job. We now need to allow access to port 389 (Active Director) only, from the DMZ server to an AD server on eth2. I am no good at this and was wondering if someone could suggest the change/changes to the rules below to allow this to happen. |---| eth2---| |---eth0 -- Internet eth1---| | |---| iptables -A INPUT -m state --state NEW -i eth2 -j ACCEPT iptables -A INPUT -m state --state NEW -i eth1 -j ACCEPT iptables -A INPUT -m state --state RELATED,ESTABLISHED -j ACCEPT iptables -A INPUT -i eth2 -j ACCEPT iptables -A INPUT -i eth1 -j ACCEPT iptables -A OUTPUT -m state --state RELATED,ESTABLISHED -j ACCEPT iptables -A OUTPUT -o eth2 -j DROP iptables -A OUTPUT -o eth1 -j DROP This was not the question but it seems to me that the first 2 rules and rules 4 and 5 are duplicates in that rules 4 and 5 would accept anything the first 2 do. Rules 4 and 5 basically allow any packet coming in on eth1 and eth2 regardless of source/port/protocol/state. I am making a lot of assumptions about the rest of the rules and default policies and other things but something like iptables -A OUTPUT -o eth2 -d ip.address.of.adserver -p !icmp --dport ldap -j ACCEPT placed before the second last line above (the ...-o eth2 -j DROP line) should do it. In plain english this says Allow any packet going out on interface eth2 whose destination (-d) is ip.address.of.adserver and whose protocol (-p) is not icmp (!icmp) and whose destination port (--dport) is that of the ldap entry in /etc/services. To be safe you could put 389 instead of ldap after --port. There may be other ports you may need to let through such as 135 (MS-RPC) depending on your purpose/configuration. I also know very little about AD. Fil -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Spamassassin effectiveness
Rev Simon Rumble wrote: This one time, at band camp, Scott Ragen wrote: IMHO its better for a sender to get Your Mail has been rejected due to suspected spam, then the email getting lost in the spam box never to be seen. Except that they don't get that message. Instead they get a long, cryptic bounce message which _might_ include the the text the receiving MTA sends buried somewhere inside it. In my experience users don't read beyond the your message cannot be delivered, even moderately technical users. This is something the MTAs generating the bounce message could be a _lot_ better at. And then people start getting bounced messages for emails they didn't even send (faked from address) which adds to the spam. IMHO spam should not be bounced. Fil -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Spamassassin effectiveness
Scott Ragen wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 18/01/2007 10:18:30 AM: And then people start getting bounced messages for emails they didn't even send (faked from address) which adds to the spam. IMHO spam should not be bounced. Not bounced, rejected. This means the sending mta sends the rejected email back to the user, so it wouldn't get caught in the spam trap[1]. At least if the email is rejected, the user knows that the recipient didn't see it. If its lost in the spam box, then the sender wouldn't know if it was received or not. Cheers, Scott [1] Depending on the email setup. True it won't get caught in the trap, but in some cases this would generate more spam for the sender still. There are not that many end users who interact at the MTA level. The rejecting MTA refuses to accept the mail and tells the sending MTA so, the sending MTA then generates a refused delivery message to the sender who never knew about the original email in the first place because the sender address was forged. So someone has still got spam. Fil -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Spamassassin effectiveness
Scott Ragen wrote: That is unlikely, as spam programs will not bother creating a bounce message for the originating sender, it would just be a waste of its time. That's assuming all spammers are using spam programs with built in MTA Fil -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] NAS SCSI/SATA
Thanks to Amos and David for their replies. It confirms my own investigations. There is NAS and there is NAS. Cheap low end NAS are no better than a home build linux file server, in fact some that I found are worse (in terms of performance). Anyway, to get anything decent (ie better than what a standard linux file server can provide), a medium to higher end one is needed (ie approaching SAN types). In terms of the SATA vs SCSI - jury is still out although I think the answer is no. SCSI is still worth the extra quid for situations where it would be a consideration. Fil David Kempe wrote: Hi Amos, I have done something like that with shared storage and your classic linux heartbeat stuff a while ago. The setup I was referring to was actually the storage devices for Xen nodes, so we are doing raid1 over AoE (using vblade/LVM) across two whole machines. Kinda like a SAN AOE storage device with no single points of failure. The project is not quite finished yet, but should be as soon as I get some time. This sort of setup requires the actually Xen Dom0s to be different machines, bringing the machine count to at least 4. If you want just HA samba, you only need two machines, even if you use DRBD to keep the disks in sync. Samba is tcp though so if you want to keep the streams running you need to use LVS, or something like the approach we are doing above, which is Xen live migration for HA failover (this bit is not fully tested yet for me). One of the things I have learned the hard way is that clustering is very much a word that can mean lots of things, kinda like content management... so it all depends on what you are trying to do... dave Amos Shapira wrote: On 10/01/07, David Kempe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: FWIW, I have setup an HA version of this recently and recent with some hardware was giving me excellent throughput on Gigabit networks (haven't By HA you mean that multiple hosts are connected to the same disk-chain? Care you give more pointers about such a setup? Thanks, --Amos -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] NAS SCSI/SATA
Hi esteemed ladies and gentleman... I have a couple of questions which I am currently googling which I would value people's opinion on: 1. Never having used NAS before, I am looking to find out the relative performance benefits of NAS as opposed to the plain ole' linux box file server, and 2. kinda related, are SATA drives now good enough to use instead of SCSI (in a RAID)? The particular application I am looking to use it with is where I would guarantee 40-50 concurrent users accessing files of the storage unit at once. TIA Fil -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Looking for a geographic IP tool
Howard Lowndes wrote: Is there a tool similar to the RBL tools that are on the Internet, that I can supply an IP address to in the form of 11.22.33.44.iptooldb.com or similar and have it return to me a geo location for that IP address. I know the geo location won't be dead accurate but it will give an indication. Off the top of my head I don't know...but I think this came up some time ago so could be in the archives. Fil -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Wasted opportunity: students' portal
Chris Deigan wrote: Must be referring to the use of Exchange perhaps? On that point, I am having difficulty getting other solutions in to schools other than Exchange. What I am finding: - they (as in the decision makers at the school) don't necessarily like Exchange but say something like unfortunately it is the mainstay of education and they appear to be right, so going against the tide (to try and change the tide of course) is hard if it doesn't all work perfectly. Even though Exchange doesn't work perfectly either, the perception is oh, it didn't work, we should go with Exchange type thing. - requirements are generally: + email + private and shared calendars + multiple calendars + web based as well as client application access + sync to PDA (typically a Windows one of course) + private and shared contacts + home folders available for download only all of which most other solutions provide in varying degrees except for home folder access (I haven't come across one that does but then again I haven't finished looking) and sync to PDA is somewhat tough. - cost is not an obstacle - Exchange costs are minimal ($200-$300 for private, not sure for public) I guess if the DET left Exchange, then the tide could be said to be turning, but it is a whole perception and attitude thing. I've found most people (decision makers) in the schools don't want to think about I.T. much as they have other things to do and so it tends to be Exchange will do - that's what everybody else in education uses isn't it. Stats to say otherwise would be useful of course, but a real point in favour of something else would be the ability to configure the time slots on a calendar to align with school periods. I think schools would be willing to skip features and exchange just to have that available. Apparently Microsoft have been asked to add that feature (but people aren't holding their breath of course). Fil -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Wasted opportunity: students' portal
Penedo wrote: Just looked around for Linux-based Exchange Replacements the other day and got a hunch that Scalix looks like a good candidate. Have you evaluated it yet? Not yet. I am currently evaluating Zimbra. Just took a quick look and will add Scalix to the list to evaluate. Fil -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Wasted opportunity: students' portal
David Lloyd wrote: Howard, I don't think there is too much likelihood of getting M$ products out of schools when you consider the predatory prices that M$ charge education for licences. I think it's time to change the way we think of this concept. The pricing of MS products to educational market simply means the licence cost argument goes out the window. What needs to be argued are the other benefits of open source - which should be the case in any situation anyway, not just educational. Licencing costs are not the only costs. As Penedo implied earlier, putting a tool in users hands that they are not comfortable with costs money (in either retraining or lack of productivity and disgruntled employees). The key is arguing the points without sounding like a religious fanatic attacking MS. As you say, if we haven't already, we need to stop with the open source costs $0 for licencing as the sole argument or even primary argument and move to highlighting other benefits. Fil -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Wasted opportunity: students' portal
Rev Simon Rumble wrote: This one time, at band camp, Phil Scarratt wrote: Places always say they want all this stuff and generally never use anything beyond email. - requirements are generally: + email + private and shared calendars A lovely idea, nearly always implemented wrong so it doesn't work. I worked at one place (one of Australia's most famous dot.bombs) where the clocks on all the computers were wrong by up to ten minutes and the computers were locked down so much individual users couldn't change their own clocks. So you'd have people arriving to meetings over a period of twenty minutes. I regularly get global emails at my current work saying that the resource-booking system is broken and to use bits of paper stuck to the doors of the meeting rooms instead. Do they use Exchange?? ;) On large scale, calendars probably don't work too well, but with relatively small numbers (such as staff only at a school), it seems to work. The issue will be though that only some people will use it. Having said that, the ethos is changing as we get more and more tech-savy teachers - as in happy to use and expect to use technology (though of course they may not be able to but that is beside the point). + sync to PDA (typically a Windows one of course) Who really ever does this? I know several people who do. Unfortunately at one particular site, the decision maker does so it's a must of course. + private and shared contacts Yeah like this will ever be accurate or up-to-date. I worked for a big corporate once who had an _amazing_ LDAP infrastructure. You could build an Org chart from it. Implemented in OpenLDAP. Never seen a place with Exchange where there hasn't been something seriously wrong with the data. For large contact lists (such as large corporations) sure they probably won't ever be up to date. A school is different, particularly if the school does not have student email, just staff. We're only talking a relatively small list, easily maintained. With the current system, I have a shared list that works. + home folders available for download only Not quite sure what this is and I've never seen it implemented in the real world in Exchange. Neither have I. In fact I don't even know if Exchange can do it, but I have been told it does (although they could be getting confused with public folders). I may be able to get away with this as a separate option as opposed to integrated with the mail and calendar system. Fil -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Ubuntu (dapper) server issues
All, I have had ubuntu dapper installed as a server for a few months. Two weeks ago I finally managed to get autofs with LDAP working, and being used by over systems within our organisation. However since then we have had the server lockup, i.e. no login ability, no DHCP, no DNS. When you try to login it takes a very long time. There are of course no error messages which seems strange. All the nfs, autofs packages are at the latest versions. I did notice that nfs was complaining of no /var/lib/nfs/v4recovery directory, which I have made and restarted nfs, this eliminated the error report. Has anyone else had these issues ? Or seen something similar ? Phil. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Postgrey/FairUCE
Hi, Does anyone have any experience in using postgrey and fairUCE together ? Would this combination be better than a challenge/response system like http://www.totalblock.net/ ? Thanks Phil. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[Fwd: Re: [SLUG] linux assignment]
Folk, I watched with interest when the 'student' posted his request for help on his assignment. I agreed with a lot of the comment made by folk, but I opted to reply to David and keep it private, one-on-one. However, now that I see David again making the same approach I have decided to let the group see the comments I sent David in the 1st place. If David took my advice, that book purchase will have likely assisted him with his assignment. I suspect he did not buy the book. David, as suggested by one more recent postee - I would encourage you to perhaps take whatever PC you have at home and install Linux. By actually using it you will learn more in 1 week than you could imagine and those assignments wont give rise to the sort of questions you have posted to this group - which frankly demonstrate a clear lack of effort on your part. Learning Linux is a journey - you have to take it. Expecting it to come to you by asking this group to do your assignment is robbing you of the joy of the journey. You might think thats all a waste of time - I hope not. Distributions for about 5 or 6 alternatives are available from most newsagents - CD, DVD's included for the princely sum of $16. Next Handbooks publish them in Australia. (I am not associated with Next) FC4, Debian, - take your choice. As a tempter - it would take you 15mins to buy it at the local newsagent, about 1hr to install either of these distros on a recent PC, and then about 1hr to do your assignment. In one afternoon you would learn more about Linux than you seem likely to in a whole semester of your course as things seem to stand now. Best of luck and go do it - enjoy! Original Message Subject: Re: [SLUG] linux assignment Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2006 16:33:09 +1000 From: Phil Grimshaw [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: David Herd [EMAIL PROTECTED] References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] David, If you are a student why arent you using your student allocated email? It would probably secure you more cred than hiding behind a hotmail address. Also - I suggest you buy some books on Linux. Excellent examples are 'Linux in a Nutshell - A Desktop Quick Ref' by Siever, FIggins Weber. pub O'Reilly cheers David Herd wrote: Hi I'm a computing student who is having troubles with part of my assignment. Can I have any help out there in Linux land. Question 1. (16 marks) Write UNIX commands to a) show the lines of the online manual page for sort that contain the word order. b) show how many characters the date command outputs. c) copy all C source files (the filenames end in .c) from the present working directory into a subdirectory called Cfiles. d) list all files in the present working directory that have filenames that match: starts with either t or T the extension is a single digit e) compress all the files in the directory Docs/ and store them in an archive called Docs.tar f) sort the file /etc/passwd in reverse alphabetical order by username. g) append all the lines of m1 that contain "name" to m2 h) Mail the present working directory contents to the current user with subject Directory. Question 2. (4 marks) m1, m2 and m3 are text files. What do the follow commands do under bash? Answer in English. a) cat 1 m1 b) cat 0 m1 | sort 1 m2 2 m3 Question 3. (4 marks) m1, m2 and m3 are text files. What do the following commands do under tcsh? Answer in English. a) ls -l | grep admin |tee m1 | lpr -Pp1 b) zcat m.z | head -20 thanks David -- Thank you. Phil Grimshaw 0439-722 864po box 2654 mansfield 4122 www.grimshaw.net.au Disclaimer: The information in this email and any and all attachments transmitted is intended only for the use of the individual or entity named above and may contain confidential and/or legally privileged material. Any review, re-transmission, disclosure dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited and may result in severe penalties. If you are not the intended recipient any use, disclosure or copying of this e-mail is prohibited. This email is copyright (c) 2006 P J Grimshaw. -- Thank you. Phil Grimshaw 0439-722 864po box 2654 mansfield 4122 www.grimshaw.net.au Disclaimer: The information in this email and any and all attachments transmitted is intended only for the use of the individual or entity named above and may contain confidential and/or legally privileged material. Any review, re-transmission, disclosure dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited and may result in severe penalties. If you are not the intended recipient any use, disclosure
Re: [SLUG] Newcomer
Roberto Arias Alegria wrote: Hello there, I'm Roberto from Mexico and I barely have around a month here in Sydney, I'm going to study at Macquarie University a master in IT, and I'm also interested in Linux and OSS so I think your group is very interesting to me. I'm not sure if this is the list for asking for a distribution but if someone can handle a copy of Suse10, would be appreciated :) Bye Roberto Bienvenido a Australia y SLUG! Fil -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Debian Linux for SPARC
Hello, I would like to get in touch with folk who are interested in Debian Linux for SPARC. Is there such a group of interested folk. I have some issues which I am wrestling with re going the step beyond the base Debian install via the net and the documentation to hand is very very weak. Look forward to being able to share experiences about the 'joy' of Linux on SPARC. cheers phil www.grimshaw.net.au 0439-722-864 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Ubuntu 6.06 wireless networking
OK I was just thinking of overriding the atheros modules with later ones, why do I need to remove the other networking components first for this ?On 7/11/06, Jeff Waugh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: quote who=Phil Manuel I never did find where the new tool was shown to be used.it was running but I couldn't find the applet to invoke it.Like I said earlier in the thread - run nm-applet and look for it in your panel. You might have to ensure that nm-applet is starting in your sessionto see it next time you're logged in.Also, if you decide you don't want to use Network Manager (because it doesnot love Atheros very much at the moment), make sure you've removed all the related packages before trying to fix things up:apt-get remove --purge network-manager dhcdbdThat ought to do it.- Jeff--linux.conf.au 2007: Sydney, Australia http://lca2007.linux.org.au/ Itanium: A synthetic market-group tested plasticised square. - Jamie Wilkinson--SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Re: Re: Firewall Device Opinions
Ben Buxton wrote: Alexander Samad [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered the following thing: I have an Asus WL-500gP. 8Mb Flash and 32Mb DRAM (more than most other openwrt devices). It also has 2 USB ports. where did you buy this from ? I bought it in Europe...not sure if it's available in Aus, though I'd imagine it should be. A quick google earlier today revealed a number of suppliers. From memory (which this late in the day is not very good) expansys, i-tech and a number of other hits came up. Fil -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Ubuntu 6.06 wireless networking
Jeff,Yuo are correct. It used to work, but stopped after a couple of changes. Didn't work at all even through iwconfig.I never did find where the new tool was shown to be used. it was running but I couldn't find the applet to invoke it. I have now downloaded the latest madwifi driver and I was going to try that instead of the supplied ones.Phil.On 7/10/06, Jeff Waugh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:quote who=Phil Manuel I'm going to have to go back to Mandriva, as my network atleast worked under that distro.Now under Ubuntu i cannot see a single wireless network.Nothing seems to show why it can't see a network.It is very frustrating.At work i'm having to boot into windows and run Linux under VMWARE. Very very frustrated.You haven't really explained what happened - it sounded as though wireless worked for you earlier, but you wanted a prettier/smarter interface - nowyou're saying wireless doesn't work at all?Why throw the baby out with the bathwater when SLUG is here to help solveyour problem? - Jeff--linux.conf.au 2007: Sydney, Australia http://lca2007.linux.org.au/ I tried to make money ass signing, but the bottom fell out of the market. - Liam Quin -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Firewall Device Opinions
Hi I'm after opinions on the following two options in terms of a straight firewall. Since I have never used OpenWRT devices before I don't have any idea how they rate against a full pc running as a firewall. The options are: 1. OpenWRT on a Linksys device 2. Small form factor pc with some sort of solid state memory running linux. The only caveat is that it (the fw) has to allow for a DMZ, and may have to run multiple internet (WAN) connections (I am currently investigating/googling whether an OpentWRT device can do this) in the future. Otherwise fairly straight forward. This is for a business environment. Fil -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Ubuntu 6.06 wireless networking
Jeff,I'm going to have to go back to Mandriva, as my network atleast worked under that distro. Now under Ubuntu i cannot see a single wireless network. Nothing seems to show why it can't see a network. It is very frustrating. At work i'm having to boot into windows and run Linux under VMWARE. Very very frustrated.Phil.On 7/7/06, Jeff Waugh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: quote who=Sonia Hamilton * On Fri, Jul 07, 2006 at 01:57:31AM +1000, Jeff Waugh wrote: The default software isn't clever enough to do this for you. However, with a little help from Network Manager (install network-manager-gnome), you will have a *very* pleasurable network switching experience; both wifi and wired. Hey Jeff, I installed network manager, but I couldn't seem to find a way of configuring or running it. I had a look around with dpkg -L network-manager, couldn't see anything obvious. Is it just Friday afternoon my brain has gone to sleep?No, it's just a bit obtuse at the moment because it's not nicely integrated for you. Run nm-applet (which is in network-manager-gnome). You should alsocheck that it is in your startup list (System Preferences Sessions).- Jeff--linux.conf.au 2007: Sydney, Australia http://lca2007.linux.org.au/ Old timers will tell you what a pain unstable was during the newtestament transition. - Jon Corbet on Debian's KJV packages --SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Ubuntu 6.06 wireless networking
Jeff,I'm going to have to go back to Mandriva, as my network atleast worked under that distro. Now under Ubuntu i cannot see a single wireless network. Nothing seems to show why it can't see a network. It is very frustrating. At work i'm having to boot into windows and run Linux under VMWARE. Very very frustrated.Phil.On 7/7/06, Jeff Waugh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: quote who=Sonia Hamilton * On Fri, Jul 07, 2006 at 01:57:31AM +1000, Jeff Waugh wrote: The default software isn't clever enough to do this for you. However, with a little help from Network Manager (install network-manager-gnome), you will have a *very* pleasurable network switching experience; both wifi and wired. Hey Jeff, I installed network manager, but I couldn't seem to find a way of configuring or running it. I had a look around with dpkg -L network-manager, couldn't see anything obvious. Is it just Friday afternoon my brain has gone to sleep?No, it's just a bit obtuse at the moment because it's not nicely integrated for you. Run nm-applet (which is in network-manager-gnome). You should alsocheck that it is in your startup list (System Preferences Sessions).- Jeff--linux.conf.au 2007: Sydney, Australia http://lca2007.linux.org.au/ Old timers will tell you what a pain unstable was during the newtestament transition. - Jon Corbet on Debian's KJV packages --SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Firewall Device Opinions
Christopher Vance wrote: On Tue, Jul 11, 2006 at 12:31:16AM +1000, Simon Wong wrote: The biggest problem I have come across looking at these is finding something with 3 NICs without spending a fortune on a multiple interface card from Intel. The soekris and pc-engines wrap both have 3 NICs, and are available from Yawarra. VIA also make a motherboard with 2 NIC's and a PCI slot. ELX sell boxes with these in them I believe. Thanks for the comments. The general consensus (and from my searching) seems to be there is not much difference between the embedded type and the full pc type as long as the embedded type chosen has a processor capable of maintaining a high enough throughput of packets for the chosen application. Fil -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Re: [chat] Firefox as IE
Alan L Tyree wrote: Can someone remind me how to make web sites think that Firefox is IE? There are other ways but easiest is to download User Agent Switcher extension. Fil -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Microsoft kinda do ODF
Thought this was interesting and worth posting just in case someone out there hadn't read it. Fil -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Re: Microsoft kinda do ODF
Phil Scarratt wrote: Thought this was interesting and worth posting just in case someone out there hadn't read it. Fil Oh dear http://www.computerworld.com/blogs/node/2911 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
