Re: [RCSE] Bullet First Flight (long)

2001-02-15 Thread Brad Willoughby

RCSE'rs,

Many thanks to the folks who replied privately to my post yesterday
(ARROWSTEEL, R Kinser, Scobie).  I've learned quite a bit from your responses. 
Mainly:

1) You _CAN_ have aileron differential with only 1 servo
2) I was reasoning backwards WRT my decalage angle
3) I shouldn't need to add a third servo to clean my ship up

Scobie's reply seemed to sum up others', and to add a lot of great detail. 
Read his post below and learn something ... I know I did! :)

Cheers,
Brad

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From: "Scobie Puchtler or Sarah Felstiner" [EMAIL PROTECTED]  | Block address
To:   "Brad Willoughby" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [RCSE] Bullet First Flight (long)
Date:  Wed, 14 Feb 2001 23:18:42 -0800

   2) There is only one aileron servo, so I can't add
  aileron differential.

You CAN add differential with only one aileron servo by making a simple
change to the mechanical link! It won't be programmable on your radio, but
as long as you can stand that, it's a great system, and you can try
differing the setup to find whatever you consider to be your 'sweet'
differential. It's done a few different ways depending on exactly how your
one servo is set up, so I won't try to describe it in exact detail, but it
is easy.

Here's a chain of logic to the basic concept, in case you don't already know
what I'm getting at.

When you want any control surface to move equally in both directions, you
carfully make sure that the link to the servo is dead center on the wheel,
or in the case of the arm, you make sure that the arm is exactly
perpendicular to the servo at it's neutral point. IF the servo arm starts
way off to one side in the neutral position, then the surface will only move
a little bit one direction, but a LOT the other direction. Bummer, unless
that's what you actually WANT, as in the case of aileron differential!

Most single servo aileron setups are done with torque rods or pushrods from
the ailerons linked to either side of a single servo wheel. If you move both
links back or forward on the wheel so that they start out not at a
perpendicular neutral point but in an offset neutral point, you'll begin to
get differential. (depending on your setup, either back from the
perpendicular point or forward of it will be correct) Adding mechanical
differential in this way will involve changing the length of the connections
or the position of the servo so that your base trim for flight is still
correct, but really no big deal.

You may still prefer to add an extra servo, of course. Then you have all
kinds of flexibility right in your radio programming. You can try flaperon,
camber, spoileron AND differential, but I thought you might appreciate
knowing this simple mechanical option also exists and works great for lot's
of folks.

 I think it'll be
 easier to add differential since the plane has no rudder and I'd
 have to build
 one.  Thoughts?

By all means try the mechanical or 'one servo' differential first. It will
do wonders for your yaw issues, keep your plane simple, etc.
Aileron/elevator should be a really great system for a sloper if the design
and diff. are right.

 Decalage (Dive Test Results):
 -

 The plane pulled out the dive test right away, basically just performing a
 small scoop.  This suggests that I've got a large decalage angle
 since my CG is
 at the back-end of the recommended location (6-7cm, mine's at 7).

Agreed.

  looks like I was a bit overzealous when I taped
 the top of the
 fuse to the bottom, and I really pulled the back of the stab
 down.

Now you're losing me. If you truly pulled the BACK of the stab DOWN 'too
much' then you have a SMALLER than designed decalage, and your plane should
be nosing over in the dive test, not scooping out. If you want to correct
for the scoop in the dive test, you'll need to pull the back of the stab
DOWN MORE, not the other way around.

 this created the large decalage angle and that if I loosen this
 tape, and apply
 strong tape in the front of the stab, this should lower the
 decalage.

NO. What you're describing will INCREASE the decalage. You have the right
diagnosis, but your solution is reversed, as I mention above. Think of the
stab as a 'full flying' elevator. If the plane scoops in a dive, you have
too much up elevator in your 'full flying stab', right? UP elevator in a
full flying stab means the trailing edge (back) of the elevator is UP. You
want the trailing edge of it more DOWN, so that you have a more neutral
'full flying stab' in a dive situation, and the dive will be nice and
neutral with no tendency to pull out, and no tendency to nose under.

 What's
 the easiest way to view the decalage angle?

by amplifying it. Tape a light, straight balsa stick across the top of the
stab extending forwards almost to the trailing edge of the wing. Put a mark
on the fuse where the stick is. then make a change in the stab mount angle.
(Based on 

Re: [RCSE] Plug-in tip sections

2001-02-15 Thread Stephen Syrotiak

It seems to me that if there's no spar in the center section, and you're
poo-pooing the root/sub rib method you might want to try continuing the
CF sheeting out and making a sleeve for the outer section.  Tricky
molding but I'm sure it can be done.

GL  Regards
-- 
Stephen Syrotiak
Southern Connecticut
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Re: [RCSE] old buzzard's soaring book

2001-02-15 Thread Bill Harris

I recall that Soaring Stuff-- http://www.soaringstuff.com/  -- carries The Book (and 
the videotape).

--Bill



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Can anyone recommend a good source for "The Old Buzzard's Soaring Book?"

Brett

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[RCSE] Gentle Lady

2001-02-15 Thread arwice

What would be a decent prop and battery setup for a Gentle Lady using a
Goldfire 550 or an Astro cobalt 05 direct or geared?

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RE: [RCSE] Re: JR 8103 Question

2001-02-15 Thread Barrett Stridiron

-Original Message-
A friend ask me the other day when you know to change the lithium
batteryDo you loose your info then??  If this lithium battery goes dead
while your flying ???   What then??  Are JR's the only ones with this
lithium back-up??  TNX  Brian
-

Let's see...

 - When you turn on the transmitter, and it goes BEEPBEEPBEEPBEEP... and
the display says
   'BATT ERROR', it's time to change the lithium battery. grin

 - Nothing happens if the lithium battery dies while the transmitter is
switched on.  It's
   a backup battery, and isn't used unless the tx is switched off.

 - When the lithium battery dies, all your info will be lost.  I always
write down my
   programming info down once as soon as the plane is properly trimmed for
this reason.

 -- Barrett

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RE: [RCSE] company name???

2001-02-15 Thread Barrett Stridiron

Here you go... JT Models.  Excellent pricing on Stylus battery packs,
whether empty or filled with 1600 mAh NIMH cells.

http://members.nbci.com/JTProuty/

 -- Barrett

-Original Message-
From: Kevin O'Dell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2001 6:44 AM
To:
Subject: [RCSE] company name???


hi all...

i was surfing the web the other day and found a site that sold some
sailplane bags, empty stylus transmitter battery holders and the stylus
memory cardsit isn't the bag lady sitethese were some really neat
plane bags...can anyone guide me back to the sitemy system crashed
and i didn't get to bookmark it..

thanks,

Kevin O'Dell
-- Keep thy airspeed, lest the ground shall rise up and smite thy machine!


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RE: [RCSE] Re: JR 8103 Question

2001-02-15 Thread Barrett Stridiron

What about the Stylus?  NVRAM or battery?

(I suppose I could read the manual, but hey! Real Men Don't Read Manuals.)

 -- Barrett

-Original Message-
From: Jon Stone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2001 1:14 PM
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Cc:
Subject: Re: [RCSE] Re: JR 8103 Question


Correction.

The Airtronics Vision does NOT have a lithium battery.  It's model storage
uses NVRAM.

Jon Stone

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Subject: Re: [RCSE] Re: JR 8103 Question


 No, Futaba 8uap and super 7 have battery backups.so does the Airtronic
 Vision and Stylus. As far as when you're flyingI doubt it, but can't
be
 definitive on that. I've had a super 7 the longest8 years or so?!? and
 it's still going fine. I probably should change it out. Some radios use
 NVRAM, which doesn't need batteries at all.

 Matt


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[RCSE] What are the different ways to attach controll surfaces to small planes?

2001-02-15 Thread Kevin Guhman

hello everyone.  My name is kevin and i am new to
model planes.  i want to know of all the ways controll
surfaces can be attached, and most specifically on
smaller planes like the Dumas Staggerwing free flight
kit that i would like to convert to R/C.  Thank you
for you time and assistance.

kevin

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Re: [RCSE] Launch Presets on A Cockpit Update

2001-02-15 Thread Weston, Adam R

Hi Cockpit MM Pilots,

Here's what I've done to launch a wing-launch plane with a launch preset...

This will only work for a rudder/elevator plane, flaperons are whole-other ball of 
servo-wires...

Plug the rudder in to the aileron on the RX (Channel 1), elevator into elevator 
(channel 2).  

Plug the three way switch into the flaps channel on the TX (for me a lefty I have the 
three way switch on the right side, for you other folks you'll probably have to move 
the 3-way switch to the left side).

Turn on the flaperon mix on the mix menu.  Your rudder is now a flaperon!  so when you 
hit the flaps switch the rudder will deflect the specified amount.  One direction on 
the flap switch will be the correct direction (i.e. my rudder goes to the left when I 
throw left handed).  The other will be for when you opposite handed partner/buddy 
wants to try throwing your plane!

Finally, turn on the flap compensation mix, this is where you get your elevator (up or 
down depending on your plane's set-up)!

I would love to put a copy of this set-up on my website, but my back-ordered 
Cockpit/PC interface cable hasn't arrived yet...

Thermals,

RED
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[RCSE] Bugatti Help

2001-02-15 Thread Mark Miller

Hi  Folks...

I was wondering if anyone could point me in the direction for a set of plans
or 3 views for the Bugatti powered airplane from the 30's. I thought someone
was doing a plan set but for the life of me I can't recall.

Cheers,

Mark

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Re: [RCSE] old buzzard's soaring book

2001-02-15 Thread stefan . smets

I bought it from them: very fast and personal service, and both the book and 
the video are worth buying and looking/reading (don't stop looking at the video 
when the ending titles show up; keep looking).

Stefan.

 I recall that Soaring Stuff-- http://www.soaringstuff.com/  -- carries
 The Book (and the videotape).
 
 --Bill
 
 
 
 On Thu, 15 Feb 2001 00:13:28 -0800 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Can anyone recommend a good source for "The Old Buzzard's Soaring
 Book?"
 
 Brett
 
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Re: [RCSE] Launch Presets on A Cockpit Update

2001-02-15 Thread stefan . smets

I like the idea, but doesn't this give you problems when flying other (non-HLG) 
planes ?

 Plug the three way switch into the flaps channel on the TX 

You don't replug each time you change planes, I suppose ?

Stefan.





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Re: [RCSE] How can beginners locate a sailplane club?

2001-02-15 Thread Bill Harris

Two ways to do this.

Go to the AMA site at http://www.modelaircraft.org/ pull up the page(s) for AMA clubs 
in your area and look for sailplane clubs.  

Another is to go to RC Soaring.com and look at Joe's Soaring Clubs page:

http://www.rcsoaring.com/clubs.shtml

--Bill


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While my website has stuff for everyone (such as links, info on wind
forecasts), it is PRIMARILY aimed at helping beginners to find a
sailplane club, choose a first glider and radio based on their
situation, and get off to a good start building and flying.

One of the items on my web site that is not as helpful to beginners as
I would like is my information on how to locate a sailplane club in
their area.

Is there a comprehensive list of sailplane clubs?  If not, what
non-comprehensive online lists do you know of so I can add more links?

Here's what I have so far on my "Sailplane Links" page (note that the
items to the left in quotes are actual links on the web page):

Searching for a Sailplane Club in Your Area
"DARTS links" - See list of Sailplane Clubs web sites at top of
 page
"AMA Club Lists" - Start here, find list of clubs for your area
 or state, then look at each club in
 your city or metro area.  Since most
 clubs are for powered planes, look
 for keywords in the club name like
 "soar" or "silent" or "glider" or
 "sail".

Thanks for any help!
David Cole
Fort Worth, Texas


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RE: [RCSE] Vacuum pump

2001-02-15 Thread Walba, Rick

It is probably a "High Vac" pump good to maybe 50 microns vacuum. If the
pump looks like a lawnmower engine, then it is. Use a big resevoir, (old
propane or freon container) so it will cycle minimally. I have about a half
dozen similar at my disposal, never considered throwing any of them out.

Rick

-Original Message-
From:   David J. Schat [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent:   Wednesday, February 14, 2001 3:03 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:[RCSE] Vacuum pump

I recently came in possession of a vacuum pump and I need to know if
it is 
worth keeping (no I didn't get it at the midnite vacuum pump
supply).

It's a almost new (I say "almost" as it looks brand new but I don't
know if 
it's been used, the oil in it looks new)

Boekel Hyvac #91306 with a Craftsman model 113.12029 1/3HP 1725 RPM
no 
vacuum switches or anything, just a pump and motor.

What's the opinion for this thing?

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[RCSE] Southwest Classic Pics

2001-02-15 Thread Bill Kuhl

If anyone is interested, look at
http://www.luminet.net/~bkuhl/al_and_bill.htm

Bill


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[RCSE] Discus launching preset

2001-02-15 Thread Jeff Winder

Hello,
I've been using a different approach to program in a launch preset using my
JR 8103 for Discus launching. I use the 'throttle' stick and have the rudder
deflect near 75% of the throw when the stick is in the top position. Pulling
the stick back will 'proportionally' decrease the rudder deflection until it
is neutral at the bottom. My left thumb is on the stick during launch, and I
can just pull it back once the plane straightens out because my thumb is
ever present on the transmitter during launch. 

This allows you to change the amount of 'preset' really quickly for a
launch. When it's windy and you want more deflection for a launch, the
throttle is at full for the launch. In light conditions, you can start out
with the throttle at 75% or 50% all without having to reprogram. 

Makes it easy to 'fine tune' in your Discus launch technique for even higher
launches!

Jeff Winder
Cincinnati, OH
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RE: [RCSE] Launch Presets on A Cockpit Update

2001-02-15 Thread Stefan Smets

Why not use the "Power compensation" (p. 33 of the English manual) ? You can
then control the elevator up with your left thumb on the throttle stick. No
use if you want rudder deflection also, of course.

Stefan.

 -Oorspronkelijk bericht-
 Van: Weston, Adam R [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Verzonden: dinsdag 13 februari 2001 19:13
 Aan: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'; '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
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 Onderwerp: Re: [RCSE] Launch Presets on A Cockpit Update


 Hi Cockpit MM Pilots,

 Here's what I've done to launch a wing-launch plane with a launch
 preset...

 This will only work for a rudder/elevator plane, flaperons are
 whole-other ball of servo-wires...

 Plug the rudder in to the aileron on the RX (Channel 1), elevator
 into elevator (channel 2).

 Plug the three way switch into the flaps channel on the TX (for
 me a lefty I have the three way switch on the right side, for you
 other folks you'll probably have to move the 3-way switch to the
 left side).

 Turn on the flaperon mix on the mix menu.  Your rudder is now a
 flaperon!  so when you hit the flaps switch the rudder will
 deflect the specified amount.  One direction on the flap switch
 will be the correct direction (i.e. my rudder goes to the left
 when I throw left handed).  The other will be for when you
 opposite handed partner/buddy wants to try throwing your plane!

 Finally, turn on the flap compensation mix, this is where you get
 your elevator (up or down depending on your plane's set-up)!

 I would love to put a copy of this set-up on my website, but my
 back-ordered Cockpit/PC interface cable hasn't arrived yet...

 Thermals,

 RED
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[RCSE] Towhook

2001-02-15 Thread Erik Lotoszynski

I recently installed the towhook in my Edge.  It
screws into a blind nut and is not adjustable.  I
don't much care for this setup because as I adjust the
CG the tow hook can't be adjusted with it.

Are there any good adjustable towhooks out there? 
Also do most of you use nonadjustable towhooks?
Is there any reason not to use an adjustable towhook?

By the way what is a good source of skysheen sticker?

Thanks

Erik

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Re: [RCSE] Mindblower PSS candidate

2001-02-15 Thread Aaron E. Ross

at a time earlier than now, elecwings wrote:
 There was a sport scale version in the new M.A.N.  Here's the link:
 http://www.modelairplanenews.com/plan/fsp0301a.asp

 Anybody built it?

 Aaron
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Re: [RCSE] War Story

2001-02-15 Thread Chuck Anderson

At 09:59 AM 2/15/2001 -0500, you wrote:
Wow.  Some story.

Post-flight, what did they find out?  Was the heat shield actually loose,
or was it a false reading?

--Bill

The loose heat shield was a false alarm.

In answer to another private message, it only took a few minutes to upload
the article since it was from a collection I have been writing over the
years for the benefit of my children and grandchildren.  There are several
more aviation related stories in the collection but RCSE is supposed to be
about models and soaring.  I may post some of them at a future date but not
too often.  

Chuck Anderson


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Re: [RCSE] Towhook

2001-02-15 Thread KSS0AR1

Erik,

You already have one of the best adjustable tow hooks you can buy but with 
your current installation you are not realize its potential. Now here is how 
to do it so it will be adjustable.  First off you will need to pop out the 
current block and make sure that it is sanded to the contour of the fuse 
bottom.  Now take your dremel tool and route a slot the width of your hook 
and say about 3/4" long where your current hole is in the fuse.  I normally 
make this hole starting at the center of  the recommended CG range.  This way 
you have the ability of using the full range of adjustment.  I have used this 
method on both my 2M and UNL planes for several years with great success.  
Once you have optimized your position you can always glue it back in at that 
time if you so desire.  I normally leave mine un-glued and have never had one 
pull out or move on me.  The credit for this idea needs to be given to Ed 
Slegers since he was the first one to tell me about this way of doing it.  
Hope this helps.

See Ya,

Pat McCleave
Wichita, KS
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Re: [RCSE] Sprinkler System

2001-02-15 Thread Bill Harris

I'd doubt that you can do much with a home-rigged system here.   Restaurants have a 
fire-supression system (like Halon) installed around the stoves; I'd look in the 
Yellow Pages and see what is available.

--Bill


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My shop is a fire hazard.  It contains loads of
inflammable substances, including  our heating oil
tank.  I figured I could rig a sprinkler system
without too much trouble.  Anyone done this?  What's
the scoop?  Can you buy the gear in Home Depot?

TIA

Jeb Bushell
Newtown Square, PA

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[RCSE] tranport again

2001-02-15 Thread Randy Bullard

Just before I went on a trip I asked on this exchange how best to transport
a Boomerang on the airlines. I got several good suggestions. Thanks to all
that responded. However, things did not go as planned. I got charged $75 by
Delta on departure for having an oversize box.

Some suggestions I got were to wrap it in bubble wrap and take it on board.
While this has worked for some people, the new size limits that were posted
all over the place here clearly stated the nothing as long as a Boomerang
wingspan would be allowed on board. If I was flying first class, I would be
allowed to hang it up front. Otherwise, it might end up in the baggage
compartment. I don't think bubble wrap would have prevented damage if a lot
of suitcases were piled on top of it.

I ended up taking the plane in the box I've always used. I think the main
reason I got charged $75 is because the woman behind the counter was
training another woman and she wanted to show how it was done. I have never
been charged extra before for this box and Aloha did not charge me extra on
two later flights.

I also tried to find a bow case as was suggested. I think this would have
worked great except that nobody had them in stock here because it wasn't
hunting season. Also, if you got the b---h I got you might still get charged

Part of the problem I think is that the airlines are continuing to make
travel harder and harder so that they can squeeze out as much money as
possible. You can expect to not be able to do things you could do in the
past. Also, I would suggest trying to avoid young or in training check-in
people. None of the Aloha airlines people even blinked when I handed them
the box. Some people were even arriving with surf boards!

On a positive note, I got to fly the plane lots and lots of hours and on
some slopes that I can guarantee that I was the first person to fly on.

Aloha,

Randy Bullard





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RE: [RCSE] Vacuum pump

2001-02-15 Thread Walba, Rick

760 torr=1atmosphere=14.5psi, 1/760x.0001= Peg any Dialguage Vacuum!

Rick

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Subject:[RCSE] Vacuum pump

I found info on it but need some translation... it has a spec of
GUARANTEED ULTIMATE PRESSURE (millitorr) of  0.1 but no spec on
inches Hg

Anyone know what this is?


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Re: [RCSE] Vacuum pump

2001-02-15 Thread Tom Koszuta

14.696 inHg = 760 Torr (1 atmosphere - standard pressure)

0.1 mTorr = 14.696/760/1000*0.1 in Hg

0.1 mTorr = 1.9 x 10 ^ -6 inHg (about 2 millionths of an inch of mercury)

That should be plenty of vacuum for you.

Tom Koszuta
Buffalo, NY
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 I found info on it but need some translation... it has a spec of
 GUARANTEED ULTIMATE PRESSURE (millitorr) of  0.1 but no spec on inches Hg

 Anyone know what this is?


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[RCSE] Colorado Powerlines/Zagi hill

2001-02-15 Thread Liveto Soar

what was the outcome of the February 8th meeting?
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Re: [RCSE] Towhook

2001-02-15 Thread Dave Seay

http://home.earthlink.net/~ziegelmeyer/home.htm

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RE: [RCSE] Simple Sailplanes

2001-02-15 Thread Mark and Jo Gellart

Perry,
We make it very clear here in the midwest what our rules are when RES or
Nostalgia is flown, they are the rules used at the Nats, pretty simple.  You
are correct that flying nostalgia is few and far between, last year I got to
fly it at Mid South and the Nats.  But RES is flown at a lot of our contests
and a wide variety of ships are flown, just two rules, all axis contols in
the back and spoilers are upper surface and 2" forward of the TE.

Marc Gellart
Lima,OH


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Well flying must be near cause I'm starting to get those contest flyers in
the
mail.

I'm a little confused about the bent wing class.

Let's see now.  There is Nostalgia, there is Bent Wing No Foam, there is
Three
Function, there is RES and Run What You Brung.

I need to find  the no sh-t Nostalgia rules.

I guess in RES  and Three Function one could fly one of the new double git
back
carbonium/ kevlar beauties from the likes of Pal and the boys back East and
those guys from who and who out West, but you can't fly them in the Bent
Wing
or Nostalgia.

I have a ship that has rudder, elevator, and top and bottom spoilers and
have
been told that I could fly it in Three Function but not RES.

I guess I need a clear diffinition of what a spoiler is in model sailplane
circles.


I also have a Bird of Time with spoilers on it and have been told that I
can't
fly her in Nostalgia cause spoilers were not in the kit nor are they shown
on
the plans.  Also I was told that I could not beef up the wings and that she
had to be box stock in order to be Nostalgia legal.

They know you fudged on the wing if you give your Paragon or BOT a full
pedal
launch and she stays together.

Geeze! Guess I'll have to learn how to pedal a winch.

At any rate, I wish the C.D.'s out there would be a little more clear about
what is legal in there bent wing type classes.

RES   Carbonium/Foam OK
Three Function  Top and Bottom Spoilers Ok/Spoilerons OK
Nostalgia  Strict Nostalgia rules apply.  Box/Plans Stock Only.
Run What You Brung  No ailerons ,Flaps OK (Challenger/Paramount).

It wouldn't take up much room on their flyer and who knows, more people
might
show up if there was less confusion.

Regards,Perry
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[RCSE] STILL looking for RC Butch

2001-02-15 Thread Tom Watson

Johnny,
Your e-mail address doesn't work.  All mail sent to it gets bounced.  Do you
have an alternate address?

Tom

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  Looking for RC Butch (Johnny Berlin).  Please e-mail me...I tried
replying
  to the address you used to post here a few days back and it bounced.
  Thanks.


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Re: [RCSE] Bugatti (was Mindblower PSS candidate)

2001-02-15 Thread Jim Miller

it was also on the speedvision channel last night!  slimer but cool.  1/4
scale.

jtm
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 I'm pretty sure this is the same plane that is being asked about in a
recent
 thread called Bugatti. Obviously some folks are already thinking hard
about
 modelling this thing. I got the link from a pal, and had no idea that the
 plane was already hot in the modelling community but I guess I'm not
 surprised.

 Lift,
 Scobie.

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http://www1.drive.net/evird.acgi$pass*33232383!_h-www.landings.com/_landings
 /pacflyer/feb4-2001/Fn-22-Bugatti-Racer.html

 Ok, guys, this all wood racer was found in a barn in the French
countryside
 where it had been transported to protect it from Nazi destruction. Take a
 look at this thing and then have your mind blown by the fact that it was a
 1937 design. I mean, really. Why do we even bother trying to design cool
 planes when we could just go hunting around the French countryside

 Read the article and history. The engineering details are just amazing.

 Would this make a cool PSS or what?

 How about a killer electric complete with counterrotating props? Who's up
 for it? Let me know when you've got it built.

 Lift,
 Scobie in Seattle

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Re: [RCSE] Towhook

2001-02-15 Thread Raptor291
Erik, you can get an adjustable tow hook assembly from New Creations. You 
can also do a little adjusting even with the fixed hook system as well. The 
way to accomplish this is ti use a longer down leg on your tow hook and it 
will move the effective position back without having to make more holes in 
the fuse. Take care Jim


[RCSE] Eric Farmer

2001-02-15 Thread RCsoarnut

Dude

  If you are out there drop me an e-mail.

Denny Maize
Polecat Aeroworks
(717) 789-0146
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