Re: [RCSE] Inverters (Warning)
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RE: [RCSE] HTML email settings.
Part of the problem is the antiquated list mechanics, but Mike is an old DOS fan. It would seem that this list is one of few that is still using this old format. There are options, one I stated before, don't use the digest version, set up a mailbox in Outlook (if you use that) and set the rules to deliver individual messages to it. Anything with RCSE in the subject for example. You get the messages faster, they all are listed by chronological order, and you can easily peruse the headers in one glance to see what is of interest without opening any mail. Other solutions is to go to one of several web based mirrors for RCSE, I think yahoo groups, and Lift zone are two. I find these cumbersome, but for folks struggling with the Majordomo list mechanics, it is a web based GUI that is easy. JD Endless Mountain Models http://www.scalesoaring.com email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Andrew E Mileski [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, December 19, 2004 12:44 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [RCSE] HTML email settings. Martin Usher wrote: Nobody's ever explained what the problem with HTML tags in mail is -- all but the oldest mail clients are able to interpret these tags and the result looks a lot better. I don't care either way myself -- the only problem I have with non-HTML mail (like this one) is that try as I may I can't get the line breaks right. Answers anyone? It makes the digest unreadable. Worse, those that send HTML and text in a multi-part MIME message. -- Andrew E. Mileski RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
Re: [RCSE] HTML email settings.
I have absolutely no desire for anything related to DOS and any modern Microsoft desktop product. I will admit to being an old Internet fan, having used that before the Web existed and the place turned into a sewer. If you search the history of computer conferencing, you will come across EIES. I worked on that system. The list is no longer Majordomo, it's a different now antiquated product that runs on a microsoft server. I have no control over the server. Some day, RCSE needs to be retired. John Derstine wrote: Part of the problem is the antiquated list mechanics, but Mike is an old DOS fan. It would seem that this list is one of few that is still using this old format. There are options, one I stated before, don't use the digest version, set up a mailbox in Outlook (if you use that) and set the rules to deliver individual messages to it. Anything with RCSE in the subject for example. You get the messages faster, they all are listed by chronological order, and you can easily peruse the headers in one glance to see what is of interest without opening any mail. Other solutions is to go to one of several web based mirrors for RCSE, I think yahoo groups, and Lift zone are two. I find these cumbersome, but for folks struggling with the Majordomo list mechanics, it is a web based GUI that is easy. JD Endless Mountain Models http://www.scalesoaring.com email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Andrew E Mileski [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, December 19, 2004 12:44 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [RCSE] HTML email settings. Martin Usher wrote: Nobody's ever explained what the problem with HTML tags in mail is -- all but the oldest mail clients are able to interpret these tags and the result looks a lot better. I don't care either way myself -- the only problem I have with non-HTML mail (like this one) is that try as I may I can't get the line breaks right. Answers anyone? It makes the digest unreadable. Worse, those that send HTML and text in a multi-part MIME message. -- Andrew E. Mileski RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. . RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
Re: [RCSE] HTML email settings.
MIKEPLEASE Don't talk like that..What would us old retired guys do all winter.? Brian Smith _- You wrote... Some day, RCSE needs to be retired. - -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.296 / Virus Database: 265.6.0 - Release Date: 12/17/04 RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
[RCSE] cameras -- no soaring content
Anyone out there using a Nikon D70 or similar Nikon SLR. Please contact me off line. Thanks, Bill RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
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[RCSE] 2 RAM Altimeters Left
Group, I have 2 RAM altimeters left in stock if anyone is looking to get one for the holidays. I probably won't be building anymore until after the new year. Thanks, Randy Soaring Circuits www.soaringcircuits.com RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
RE: [RCSE] HTML email settings.
Oh man... 8-) I don't think so... At 07:28 AM 12/19/2004, John Derstine wrote: but Mike is an old DOS fan. Jim Downers Grove, IL Member of the Chicago SOAR club, AMA 592537LSF 7560 Level IV ICQ: 6997780 AIM: InventorJim R/C Soaring blog at www.jimbacus.net RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
[RCSE] Need a little help
Years ago, SIG used to sell a 2 part mix up urethane expanding foam. Actually fun stuff to play with I just checked their site and the do not seem to offer same anymore. I have just screwed up a small project and I have a void in a wing that I want to fill, but I do not want to use the stuff from home depot, you know That stuff in the red can. It never stops growing... Any ideas TIA CJ Jack Strother Granger, IN LSF 2948LSF Level V #117 LSF Official 1996 - 2004 CSS Gold (House) //home.comcast.net/~strotherbj/ RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
Re: [RCSE] Need a little help
Jack Strother wrote: Years ago, SIG used to sell a 2 part mix up urethane expanding foam. Actually fun stuff to play with I just checked their site and the do not seem to offer same anymore. I have just screwed up a small project and I have a void in a wing that I want to fill, but I do not want to use the stuff from home depot, you know That stuff in the red can. It never stops growing... Any ideas Mix a few drops of water with polyurethane glue. Pour off any excess water. Expands by about 20x. Get rid of excess before fully hard. Experiment first. -- Andrew E. Mileski RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
[RCSE] Best NOS plane?
Opinions sought on the best NOS plane. I have both a Sailaire, and Paragon and am dutifully reverent of what both mean to soaring. However, neither is very happy coming upwind. I've been looking at Ray Hayes' website: http://www.skybench.com/ I know about the Challenger, but am also considering the Cloud Bound 4 or the Pierce 970. I'm open to other possibilities as well. The expert opinions of this group sought. Barry Andersen RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
Re: [RCSE] Best NOS plane?
Barry, In my opinion, the best for what you're looking for is the Legionair. It's thin wing allows it to penetrate better than most from that era. It is difficult to find, and to build correctly. It's even more difficult to set up correctly and takes a lot of patience. However, when you get the CG and trim where they need to be, you will be amazed at the legs this model has, and the thermalling capabilities. I know Ray is working to get the Legionairs done, and I wouldn't speak for him in any way. If you can find a Legionair 140 and build the spar like a Bubble Dancer or Dark Star, you will be rewarded with an extraorinary model. I have two, a 140 and a 100, and will build another soon. Best of luck with your search. Jack Womack --- Barry Andersen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Opinions sought on the best NOS plane. I have both a Sailaire, and Paragon and am dutifully reverent of what both mean to soaring. However, neither is very happy coming upwind. I've been looking at Ray Hayes' website: http://www.skybench.com/ I know about the Challenger, but am also considering the Cloud Bound 4 or the Pierce 970. I'm open to other possibilities as well. The expert opinions of this group sought. Barry Andersen RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - now with 250MB free storage. Learn more. http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250 RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
[RCSE] Handicapping for contests
I'm interested in opinions. Our club Contest Coordinator is going to use a handicap system for our monthly contests to sorta level the field for different types of airplanes. We're hoping that it will encourage participation. Figuring that the Unlimited full house ship is the gold standard, how much of a handicap would you give a full house two meter? An RES 2 meter? and an unlimited RES. Keep it simple please, I'm a bear of very little brain and I'm the one who will have to figure out the scoring. My initial take was: Full house 2m: +10% RES 2m: +12% RES Unlimited: +5% What do you think? Rick Richard A. Eckel, PE, NSPE Eckel Associates, Inc. 1757 W. Broadway St. Suite 3 Oviedo, FL 32765 Professional Engineering for Petroleum Facilities Office: 407-366-8852 Cell: 954-775-6027 [EMAIL PROTECTED] RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
Re: [RCSE] Handicapping for contests
Rick, Handicapping is really not the answer to gaining more participation. Especially if your new guy happens to start with a full house plane. I say suck it up, fly what you bring and make sure you have experts available to help the new guys out. By handicapping the planes, an expert could fly something like an AVA and basically still kick everyone's butts. Make sure you let the new guys know that the competition is just for fun and a great way to learn a lot about soaring and landing and plane set up from a great soaring fraternity. Once they know that, they will come again and again. See Ya, Pat McCleave Wichita, KS - Original Message - From: Rick Eckel [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, December 19, 2004 6:04 PM Subject: [RCSE] Handicapping for contests I'm interested in opinions. Our club Contest Coordinator is going to use a handicap system for our monthly contests to sorta level the field for different types of airplanes. We're hoping that it will encourage participation. Figuring that the Unlimited full house ship is the gold standard, how much of a handicap would you give a full house two meter? An RES 2 meter? and an unlimited RES. Keep it simple please, I'm a bear of very little brain and I'm the one who will have to figure out the scoring. My initial take was: Full house 2m: +10% RES 2m: +12% RES Unlimited: +5% What do you think? Rick Richard A. Eckel, PE, NSPE Eckel Associates, Inc. 1757 W. Broadway St. Suite 3 Oviedo, FL 32765 Professional Engineering for Petroleum Facilities Office: 407-366-8852 Cell: 954-775-6027 [EMAIL PROTECTED] RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
Re: [RCSE] Handicapping for contests
My initial take was: Full house 2m: +10% RES 2m: +12% RES Unlimited: +5% What do you think? Given that format, I'd fly a RES 2M. ;-) I remember a time not so long ago when all gliders coexisted peacefully on contest day. We had 2 classes.. 2m and open. Most everybody flew both classes. I was new to the scene, and the older more experienced guys usually flew poly ships... and won on a regular basis. Craig Foxgord was an animal with one of those things. Joe and I did OK, but guys like Keith Kendrick, Mike Regan, Tony Stark, Ben Matsumoto, Ben Clerx, Miles Moran, Edgar and BJ Weisman, Larry Jolly, and so many more very talented guys... everybody had fun flying whatever they wanted on that given day. Not so much emphasis on who's getting the wood. I hated getting beat by those poly things, but it happened regularly. There were Paragons flying against Falcon 880's, Sagitta 600's against Falcon 600's and Joe with his beat up Gentle lady that would only turn one way Now I go to a club contest... and there are 3 classes, with 2-3 pilot levels within each class there's like 20-30 guys there, and 487 trophies to give out at the end of the day When I go out to a contest, the only person I compete against is myself trying to fly and score better than I did the last time if I fly my best and win... great, but if I get beat by somebody who outflew me good for them! I may want their thumbs cut off but hey, all in good fun... ;-) Can't all of our airplanes just get along ;-) D __ Do you Yahoo!? Send holiday email and support a worthy cause. Do good. http://celebrity.mail.yahoo.com RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
Re: [RCSE] Handicapping for contests
Ya, but if you had to put numbers on it what would you think? Rick ;-) At 04:48 PM 12/19/2004 -0800, Daryl Perkins wrote: My initial take was: Full house 2m: +10% RES 2m: +12% RES Unlimited: +5% What do you think? Given that format, I'd fly a RES 2M. ;-) I remember a time not so long ago when all gliders coexisted peacefully on contest day. We had 2 classes.. 2m and open. Most everybody flew both classes. I was new to the scene, and the older more experienced guys usually flew poly ships... and won on a regular basis. Craig Foxgord was an animal with one of those things. Joe and I did OK, but guys like Keith Kendrick, Mike Regan, Tony Stark, Ben Matsumoto, Ben Clerx, Miles Moran, Edgar and BJ Weisman, Larry Jolly, and so many more very talented guys... everybody had fun flying whatever they wanted on that given day. Not so much emphasis on who's getting the wood. I hated getting beat by those poly things, but it happened regularly. There were Paragons flying against Falcon 880's, Sagitta 600's against Falcon 600's and Joe with his beat up Gentle lady that would only turn one way Now I go to a club contest... and there are 3 classes, with 2-3 pilot levels within each class there's like 20-30 guys there, and 487 trophies to give out at the end of the day When I go out to a contest, the only person I compete against is myself trying to fly and score better than I did the last time if I fly my best and win... great, but if I get beat by somebody who outflew me good for them! I may want their thumbs cut off but hey, all in good fun... ;-) Can't all of our airplanes just get along ;-) D __ Do you Yahoo!? Send holiday email and support a worthy cause. Do good. http://celebrity.mail.yahoo.com Richard A. Eckel, PE, NSPE Eckel Associates, Inc. 1757 W. Broadway St. Suite 3 Oviedo, FL 32765 Professional Engineering for Petroleum Facilities Office: 407-366-8852 Cell: 954-775-6027 [EMAIL PROTECTED] RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
[RCSE] Pike Superior - Available
Merry Christmas Everyone! A deal for one of my Pikes fell through so Im really motivated to make someone a GREAT DEAL! These are both great planes, both are V-Tails. One is a full carbon D-tube and the second is Super Light. The first has a carbon D-tube F3J plan, with yellow tops, red bottoms, JR 368s all around. The plane is in very good condition, no crashes. Comes with a spare tail, custom nose skeg, just install your receiver and fly. Priced at $1,250 or make me an offer. The second is a Pike Superior Super Light (69 oz flying weight) with yellow tops, great looking purple and black tip flashing, black bottoms, JR 368s all around. The plane is in excellent condition, no crashes. Comes with a custom nose skeg, and a spare tail! - Just install your receiver and fly. Priced at $1,250 or make me an offer. Give me a call or email me for more details. Mike Verzuh (970) 532-0638 hm (303) 939-7256 off. Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] Best NOS plane?
Mirage. Mark Isthmus Models --- Jack Womack [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Barry, In my opinion, the best for what you're looking for is the Legionair. It's thin wing allows it to penetrate better than most from that era. It is difficult to find, and to build correctly. It's even more difficult to set up correctly and takes a lot of patience. However, when you get the CG and trim where they need to be, you will be amazed at the legs this model has, and the thermalling capabilities. I know Ray is working to get the Legionairs done, and I wouldn't speak for him in any way. If you can find a Legionair 140 and build the spar like a Bubble Dancer or Dark Star, you will be rewarded with an extraorinary model. I have two, a 140 and a 100, and will build another soon. Best of luck with your search. Jack Womack --- Barry Andersen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Opinions sought on the best NOS plane. I have both a Sailaire, and Paragon and am dutifully reverent of what both mean to soaring. However, neither is very happy coming upwind. I've been looking at Ray Hayes' website: http://www.skybench.com/ I know about the Challenger, but am also considering the Cloud Bound 4 or the Pierce 970. I'm open to other possibilities as well. The expert opinions of this group sought. Barry Andersen RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - now with 250MB free storage. Learn more. http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250 RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. __ Do you Yahoo!? Send holiday email and support a worthy cause. Do good. http://celebrity.mail.yahoo.com RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
[RCSE] 5 Cell Battery Alternative
I was at the local hobby shop yesterday in need of a battery pack for one of my planes. They had several 4 cell 1100mAh flat packs and some square packs that would not fit into the nose of my plane. I was contemplating just building my own, but they only had 700mAh cells and I really wanted something larger. So, I noticed the RC car packs. In particular, the Team Losi Mini-T 5 cell 1100mAh packs. So I bought one, soldered on a new plug and it fits great. I usually don't run 5 cells, but this seemed like my best option to get me in to the air quickly. Mike Las Vegas, NV RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
Re: [RCSE] Handicapping for contests
Handicapping due to airframe is completely condition dependent. If the air is active, and the thermals close together, all planes are virtually equal, and comes down to the landing. Of course, the experienced pilot will minimize the effects of the poor conditions, and take advantage of his handicap. In other words, hard to come up with an equitable number or percentage that will work consistently. You'll probably need to use some trial and error, and see what works at your particular field under normal conditions for your area. I think you'll find that the data collected will be more representative of the pilots flying each model, than the models themselves. Once you find out that doesn't work, and the same guys keep winning In golf they handicap the players... not their clubs of choice have fun D __ Do you Yahoo!? Send holiday email and support a worthy cause. Do good. http://celebrity.mail.yahoo.com RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
Re: [RCSE] Best NOS plane?
Is it fair to answer with just a name and no explanantion? Why would you pick a Mirage... and... is it NOSTALGIA legal? I don't remember when it came out. JW --- Mark Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mirage. Mark Isthmus Models --- Jack Womack [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Barry, In my opinion, the best for what you're looking for is the Legionair. It's thin wing allows it to penetrate better than most from that era. It is difficult to find, and to build correctly. It's even more difficult to set up correctly and takes a lot of patience. However, when you get the CG and trim where they need to be, you will be amazed at the legs this model has, and the thermalling capabilities. I know Ray is working to get the Legionairs done, and I wouldn't speak for him in any way. If you can find a Legionair 140 and build the spar like a Bubble Dancer or Dark Star, you will be rewarded with an extraorinary model. I have two, a 140 and a 100, and will build another soon. Best of luck with your search. Jack Womack --- Barry Andersen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Opinions sought on the best NOS plane. I have both a Sailaire, and Paragon and am dutifully reverent of what both mean to soaring. However, neither is very happy coming upwind. I've been looking at Ray Hayes' website: http://www.skybench.com/ I know about the Challenger, but am also considering the Cloud Bound 4 or the Pierce 970. I'm open to other possibilities as well. The expert opinions of this group sought. Barry Andersen RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - now with 250MB free storage. Learn more. http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250 RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. __ Do you Yahoo!? Send holiday email and support a worthy cause. Do good. http://celebrity.mail.yahoo.com RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Find what you need with new enhanced search. http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250 RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
Re: [RCSE] Handicapping for contests
On 12/19/04 18:37 Daryl Perkins wrote: Once you find out that doesn't work, and the same guys keep winning In golf they handicap the players... not their clubs of choice Damn. My handicap is that I think I can play golf!! But your point is correct. Personally Like the heads up style in TD contests. The fact is that most guys simply don't like competition (less than 8% of AMA members enter any kind of sanctioned contest in a given year), so doing stuff to make them happy only dilutes it for those that do like it. I fly the best stuff and I still get beaten by the better pilot, regardless of what they are flying. Ask the guys at the Rose Bowl a few years ago in 2M how they felt about JW kicking their butts with a 2-channel foamie!! ~~~ Bill Malvey RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
Re: [RCSE] Best NOS plane?
The Mirage is a very unique sailplane design for it's day. It is light where it needs to be and just strong enough to complete it's task. With an empty weight around 30 oz. it can float like few others. Add 24 or so ounces of ballast and it will move out when the conditions turn adverse. No flat bottom airfoil here. It's thick low camber airfoil, i.e. semi symetrical, gives plenty of lift with lower drag than the flat bottom airfoils of the day. You can beef up the spar a bit in the center section while keeping the tips light for nimble turning characteristics. It was after all the plane that inspired the Bubble Dancer. I have been selling a short kit for the past two years and many folks have rekindled the Mirage spirit. Shortly, I will have a full kit available. Blaine Rawdon designed a unique sailplane back in 1978 which is still a viable and fun sailplane today. It was first seen as a plan from RCM in February 1979. Mark Isthmus Models --- Jack Womack [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is it fair to answer with just a name and no explanantion? Why would you pick a Mirage... and... is it NOSTALGIA legal? I don't remember when it came out. JW --- Mark Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mirage. Mark Isthmus Models --- Jack Womack [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Barry, In my opinion, the best for what you're looking for is the Legionair. It's thin wing allows it to penetrate better than most from that era. It is difficult to find, and to build correctly. It's even more difficult to set up correctly and takes a lot of patience. However, when you get the CG and trim where they need to be, you will be amazed at the legs this model has, and the thermalling capabilities. I know Ray is working to get the Legionairs done, and I wouldn't speak for him in any way. If you can find a Legionair 140 and build the spar like a Bubble Dancer or Dark Star, you will be rewarded with an extraorinary model. I have two, a 140 and a 100, and will build another soon. Best of luck with your search. Jack Womack --- Barry Andersen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Opinions sought on the best NOS plane. I have both a Sailaire, and Paragon and am dutifully reverent of what both mean to soaring. However, neither is very happy coming upwind. I've been looking at Ray Hayes' website: http://www.skybench.com/ I know about the Challenger, but am also considering the Cloud Bound 4 or the Pierce 970. I'm open to other possibilities as well. The expert opinions of this group sought. Barry Andersen RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - now with 250MB free storage. Learn more. http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250 RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. __ Do you Yahoo!? Send holiday email and support a worthy cause. Do good. http://celebrity.mail.yahoo.com RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Find what you need with new enhanced search. http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250 RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - You care about security. So do we. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
Re: [RCSE] Best NOS plane?
I was looking at your web site at the Mirage. Is only one side of the elevator controlled? At 10:07 PM 12/19/2004, Mark Miller wrote: The Mirage is a very unique sailplane design for it's day. Jim Downers Grove, IL Member of the Chicago SOAR club, AMA 592537LSF 7560 Level IV ICQ: 6997780 AIM: InventorJim R/C Soaring blog at www.jimbacus.net RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
[RCSE] For Sale - 1/4 scale cockpit goodies and Sirius Test
For Sale - 1/4 scale cockpit goodies - $40 delivered in CONUS -stick and hand controls -sliding canopy wondow -instruments -belts with buckles -mic, sunglasses, and otrher details -several bottles of eyeglass screws, nuts, and washers. They look sweet on the instrument bezels and other areas. Sirius Test - $40 delivered in CONUS -Excellent condition -used infreqently Email offchat for pictures Thanks David Schat RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
[RCSE] tape for molded planes
All, What kind of tape is preferred for the following applications on molded planes? I want to avoid surface damage. 1) Servo covers 2) Wing joints I have used the tape from Jim Carlton for my bagged wing planes in the past and it has worked well. I had to lay down a layer of clear tape on the wings and fuse to keep the paint from coming off however. Is this required on molded planes? Regards, Russ Light [EMAIL PROTECTED] (personal) RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
Re: [RCSE] tape for molded planes
1) 3M #600, 1/2 wide 2) 3M #600, 3/4 wide as a permanent 'base' layer on both sides of joint. Colored electrical tape (to match, of course!) as the actual retaining layer. #600 prevents paint from pulling when the electrical tape is removed. Tom Russ Light wrote: What kind of tape is preferred for the following applications on molded planes? I want to avoid surface damage. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
Re: [RCSE] tape for molded planes
On 12/19/04 21:58 Tom Watson wrote: #600 prevents paint from pulling when the electrical tape is removed. I use 3M Scotch 35 Electrical tape. Never had it pull up the color on a molded Psycho, Molded Graphite, Emerald, 2 Artemis, and a NYX. Comes in every color I need and available at Lowe's. ~~~ Bill Malvey RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
