[RCSE] 9303 FS

2005-07-28 Thread Lydon, Matthew (NBC Universal)








Nearly new (2 months old and used maybe 2 hours) 9303, with
charger, manual, module (ch. 35)



$375 shipped



Matt








[RCSE] JR 10X for sale

2005-07-28 Thread Dudley Dufort






Includes JR Datasafe
with adapter
and cable that allows setups to be stored in your PC. Price includes
10X carrying case, instruction manual, extra battery and shipping.
$600




Re: [RCSE] Why are so many guys unsubscribing?

2005-07-28 Thread Jay Hunter
FWIW 

I have a gmail account and I sort everything and have put into an RCSE
folder. I then go back and browse it at my leisure. Not to
mention I can do searchs for emails (such as sale, harley, gordy, help,
etc..). Otherwise there is NO way I could keep up with all of
this, and with 2 gigs of space, I have no problems archiving ALL of the
emails that come in...

JayOn 7/27/05, Pat McCleave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Guys,I am sure glad I am not the only one that has been feeling this way recentlyabout the list.Two things I look for most on this list, is cool how toposts (Harley you are famous for these), and believe it or not, I really
like all the for sale posts.The thing is though, if it is soaring relatedit is supposed to be welcome on the lists.I sure have really enjoyed allthe posts recently from those who have taken time to keep us all updated on
how the Nats are going.See Ya,Pat McCleaveWichita, KS- Original Message -From: Jack Harper [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: soaring@airage.comSent: Wednesday, July 27, 2005 6:53 PMSubject: RE: [RCSE] Why are so many guys unsubscribing? Very well said, Harley.I could not agree more.
 I too, have thought of unsubscribing lately for the exact same reason. I read the list to learn useful stuff, and all the banter is a waste of time for me too. Jack
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 At times, lately, I've also thought of unsubscribing. I think what I appreciate least is banter between friends who for some reason, must think the rest of us are interested in what they are saying.
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[RCSE] Crimping tool for servo plugs

2005-07-28 Thread Stephen Syrotiak



Soldering and then crimping with needlenose pliers 
is getting a bit tiresome.

Where can I find a tool that'll do this 
job?

TIA

S


Re: [RCSE] Crimping tool for servo plugs

2005-07-28 Thread George Gillburg
 Soldering and then crimping with needlenose pliers is
getting a bit  tiresome.   Where can I find
a tool that'll do this job?  If you are using the
connector kits sold by various vendors, you can buy the proper crimping
tool at  Radio Shack for much less than the connector vendors usually sell
the same tool for.   After that, its just a matter of crimping and
assembling the connectors.  Good luck with that.  I can do a JR type
connector that works well but for the life of me, I can't get an old style
Airtronics connector to assemble properly.George Gillburg Bakersfield, California 
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Re: [RCSE] Crimping tool for servo plugs

2005-07-28 Thread Bill Conkling
Radio Shack, or MAXX Products sells them.  Other electronics suppyers also
may have them.  The tool I use from RS is sold to make up the DB-xx style
connectors used on computers etc.  Works like a charm.  I do not solder.

NOW Please, I answered the question, so let's not get into a crimp vs
solder war.

.bcAG4YQ  Williamsburg, VA




On Thu, 28 Jul 2005, Stephen Syrotiak wrote:


 Where can I find a tool that'll do this (crimp servo pins) job?

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Re: [RCSE] Crimping tool for servo plugs

2005-07-28 Thread Bill Conkling
Try getting your pins from FMA.  He has the best connector pins.  He has
them for Airtronics as well.  The old ones were different from those used
on JR, Futaba etc.  I think the current ones 'Z' are the same as JR, Fut
etc.

.bcAG4YQ  Williamsburg, VA




 ...I can
 do a JR type connector that works well but for the life of me, I can't
 get an old style Airtronics connector to assemble properly.

 George Gillburg
 Bakersfield, California

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Re: [RCSE] Crimping tool for servo plugs

2005-07-28 Thread Brian Chan

At 12:04 PM -0400 7/28/05, Bill Conkling wrote:

Radio Shack, or MAXX Products sells them.  Other electronics suppyers also
may have them.  The tool I use from RS is sold to make up the DB-xx style
connectors used on computers etc.  Works like a charm.  I do not solder.

NOW Please, I answered the question, so let's not get into a crimp vs
solder war.

.bcAG4YQ  Williamsburg, VA


 Don't waste your money on the Radio Shack one, it is NOT the same as 
the one sold by Maxx. Unless they have two models at RS. I have both 
and the one from RS is not the one to use, too big.


Brian
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Re: [RCSE] Crimping tool for servo plugs

2005-07-28 Thread Jimmy Prouty
I also had problems with the Radio Snack crimper not working properly.  The 
jaws are different and made for different connectors.  It's worth the 
investment to buy a proper set of crimpers if it will save one airplane 
from crashing due to a bad crimp.  Personally I like to use the Molex 
locking connectors that actually have a tab you have to push to release the 
connectors.  Unfortunately their crimper is $180! :(


Happy flying,

Jimmy
www.jtmodels.com


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Re: [RCSE] Crimping tool for servo plugs

2005-07-28 Thread lomcovak
If you look close, you will see that the pin and spring contact assemblies are 
slightly different between all the marques. Add to this that the aftermarket 
arena has their own suppliers and configurations and you start to understand 
that no single crimping tool will do all..more like do one type. 

At best what is offered by the aftermarket groups is adequate. Every single 
spring contact configuration will have it's proper crimping tool out there in 
the industry. Proper hand crimping tools are relatively expensive, too much for 
the average modeler ($100 to $1000).

The electro-mechanical performance of crimping is superior to soldering IF the 
proper tool has been used AND it has been set up properly. 

If you buy the aftermarket assemblies, buy the tool they recommend.
Substituting with something else is hit-and-miss, and could generate the same 
results of a failed solder joint.
 

Quoting George Gillburg [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 
  Soldering and then crimping with needlenose pliers is
 getting a bit 
  tiresome. 
  
  Where can I find
 a tool that'll do this job? 
  If you are using the
 connector kits sold by various vendors, you can buy the proper crimping
 tool at  Radio Shack for much less than the connector vendors usually sell
 the same tool for.   After that, its just a matter of crimping and
 assembling the connectors.  Good luck with that.  I can do a JR type
 connector that works well but for the life of me, I can't get an old style
 Airtronics connector to assemble properly.
 
 George Gillburg Bakersfield, California 
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Simon Van Leeuwen
PnP Systems - The E-Harness of Choice
Radius Systems
Cogito Ergo Zoom

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Re: [RCSE] Crimping tool for servo plugs

2005-07-28 Thread Lee Estingoy

You need the proper tools, like Simon sez.

Once you know what the proper tool is, try EBAY.  A buddy of mine is an 
avionics tech., he lent me his crimper for the Molex stuff.  Whoa., sooo 
easy and reliable.  A few days later he called to suggest I take a look at 
EBAY 'cause one of the crimpers was up there.  Got it for 1/4 the normal 
price. Trick is to get the exact tool that you need.


You'll never go back to solder and needle nose pliers once you've seen it 
done right.


Good Luck,

Lee Estingoy


- Original Message - 
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: RCSE soaring@airage.com
Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2005 12:29 PM
Subject: Re: [RCSE] Crimping tool for servo plugs


If you look close, you will see that the pin and spring contact assemblies 
are
slightly different between all the marques. Add to this that the 
aftermarket
arena has their own suppliers and configurations and you start to 
understand

that no single crimping tool will do all..more like do one type.

At best what is offered by the aftermarket groups is adequate. Every 
single
spring contact configuration will have it's proper crimping tool out there 
in
the industry. Proper hand crimping tools are relatively expensive, too 
much for

the average modeler ($100 to $1000).

The electro-mechanical performance of crimping is superior to soldering IF 
the

proper tool has been used AND it has been set up properly.

If you buy the aftermarket assemblies, buy the tool they recommend.
Substituting with something else is hit-and-miss, and could generate the 
same

results of a failed solder joint.


Quoting George Gillburg [EMAIL PROTECTED]:



 Soldering and then crimping with needlenose pliers is
getting a bit
 tiresome.

 Where can I find
a tool that'll do this job?
 If you are using the
connector kits sold by various vendors, you can buy the proper crimping
tool at Radio Shack for much less than the connector vendors usually sell
the same tool for. After that, its just a matter of crimping and
assembling the connectors. Good luck with that. I can do a JR type
connector that works well but for the life of me, I can't get an old 
style

Airtronics connector to assemble properly.

George Gillburg Bakersfield, California
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Re: [RCSE] Why are so many guys unsubscribing?

2005-07-28 Thread Ben Diss




I use Netscape and have a filter move the list traffic to a folder. I
have history going back 5 years that I can search. The filter is nice
too because I can flag certain threads and block certain content.

-Ben

Jay Hunter wrote:
FWIW 
  
I have a gmail account and I sort everything and have put into an RCSE
folder. I then go back and browse it at my leisure. Not to
mention I can do searchs for emails (such as sale, harley, gordy, help,
etc..). Otherwise there is NO way I could keep up with all of
this, and with 2 gigs of space, I have no problems archiving ALL of the
emails that come in...
  
Jay
  
  On 7/27/05, Pat McCleave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Guys,

I am sure glad I am not the only one that has been feeling this way
recently
about the list.Two things I look for most on this list, is cool "how
to"
posts (Harley you are famous for these), and believe it or not, I
really

like all the for sale posts.The thing is though, if it is soaring
related
it is supposed to be welcome on the lists.I sure have really enjoyed
all
the posts recently from those who have taken time to keep us all
updated on

how the Nats are going.

See Ya,

Pat McCleave
Wichita, KS


- Original Message -
From: "Jack Harper" [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: soaring@airage.com
Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2005 6:53 PM
Subject: RE: [RCSE] Why are so many guys unsubscribing?


 Very well said, Harley.I could not agree more.


 I too, have thought of unsubscribing lately for the exact same
reason.

 I read the list to learn useful stuff, and all the banter is a
waste of
 time for me too.

 Jack



 [Original Message]
 From: Harley Michaelis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: soaring@airage.com

 Date: 7/27/05 6:14:13 PM
 Subject: [RCSE] Why are so many guys unsubscribing?

 I wonder if those who have been unsubscribing have lost
interest by the
 lack
 of useful content of late.


 At times, lately, I've also thought of unsubscribing. I think
what I
 appreciate least is banter between friends who for some
reason, must
 think
 the rest of us are interested in what they are saying.


 So much of what has come in lately has been that sort of
thing. To me,
 and
 perhaps to others, it's just a waste of time to see that mail
has come
 in,
 wait for messages to display and then see it's a bunch of
stuff that

 should
 have been kept personal between the correspondents.

 Innovative ideas, techniques, discoveries, etc. are great to
learn about
 and
 most welcome. Give us more of that to again make the exchange
more

 worthwhile.





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RE: [RCSE] Why are so many guys unsubscribing?

2005-07-28 Thread John Derstine









Heck, you can do this with Outlook also,
if that is the problem, I just created a set of rules for every thing with RCSE
in the Header to file the undigested subscription to a folder. It
is a lot easier to browse the headers this way than with the digest version or
the scattered inbox approach. 

But that said,
this exchange has really become more of a Gordys
chat room of late. Not singling out him, but it seems that there is a small
group of guys posting idle banter about non subjects. Pretty much the same few
guys posting all the time. What with RC Groups and the scale soaring list
plus many other specialized forums available, this one has in my opinion become
a bit archaic in its list form only format. Granted there are Yahoo mirror sites
etc. but if you do that why not have a one stop shop web based info source,
with photo capability.

JD





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-Original Message-
From: Ben Diss
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Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2005 2:16
PM
To: Jay Hunter
Cc: RCSE
Subject: Re: [RCSE] Why are so
many guys unsubscribing?



I use Netscape and have a filter move the list traffic
to a folder. I have history going back 5 years that I can search.
The filter is nice too because I can flag certain threads and block certain
content.

- 










Re: [RCSE] LASS: NATS 2-meter and Unlimited photos

2005-07-28 Thread Kevin Sheen
Who's GENIE is in the picture where Mike Remus is holding his Bubble Dancer?

Good looking pictures!

Kevin

At 02:58 PM 7/28/2005 -0400, Ben Wilson wrote:
Greetings gents --

I've posted my photos from the two days of 2-meter and the first day of 
Unlimited from the NATS.  You can find these and more here:

http://louisvillesoaring.org/gallery/2005nats


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Re: [RCSE] Why are so many guys unsubscribing?

2005-07-28 Thread Ben Diss




Oh, has Gordy been around again? I wouldn't know.

:)



John Derstine wrote:

  
  
  
  
  

  
  
  Heck, you
can do this with Outlook also,
if that is the problem, I just created a set of rules for every thing
with RCSE
in the Header to file the undigested subscription to a folder. It
is a lot easier to browse the headers this way than with the digest
version or
the scattered inbox approach. 
  But that said,
this exchange has really become more of a Gordys
chat room of late. Not singling out him, but it seems that there is a
small
group of guys posting idle banter about non subjects. Pretty much the same few
guys posting all the time. What with RC Groups and the scale
soaring list
plus many other specialized forums available, this one has in my
opinion become
a bit archaic in its list form only format. Granted there are Yahoo
mirror sites
etc. but if you do that why not have a one stop shop web based info
source,
with photo capability.
  JD
  
  
  Endless
Mountain Models
  http://www.scalesoaring.com
  email:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
  
  
  -Original
Message-
  From: Ben Diss
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  Sent: Thursday, July
28, 2005 2:16
PM
  To: Jay Hunter
  Cc: RCSE
  Subject: Re: [RCSE]
Why are so
many guys unsubscribing?
  
  I use Netscape and have a
filter move the list traffic
to a folder. I have history going back 5 years that I can search.
The filter is nice too because I can flag certain threads and block
certain
content.
  
- 
  
  





Re: [RCSE] Sirius Charger Update

2005-07-28 Thread John D Frugé
I guess I a'm not in the know? what is the reason for an update to a Sirius 
charger?


Thanks,

John Fruge

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Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2005 1:37 PM
Subject: [RCSE] Sirius Charger Update


I need to update my Sirius charger.  George Joy, Whether art thou?  Where 
and how much?

ThankU
D.O.
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[RCSE] AMA's position with regard to soaring

2005-07-28 Thread Allan/Tara
   In the current issue of Model Aviation which I received today I found 
the Presidents Perspective page quite interesting. It makes it quite 
evident that there is a complete lack knowledge as to what we in the soaring 
community are all about.
   In his remarks he (Dave Brown) states that his recommendation to the FAA 
is that a minimum altitude restriction be set at 700' and preferably 1,000'. 
Probably just fine for the slime machines but a death blow to sailplanes. 
These restrictions while unenforceable, would in essence make the even 
average weekend flier a lawbreaker,not to mention the whole liability 
problem.
   Anybody out there have any idea as to who to contact to get this thing 
turned around,somebody who will make the AMA listen !
Allan Parsons 


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[RCSE] height limit for sailplanes! no way!

2005-07-28 Thread Albert E. Wedworth



Height limits for sailplanes Ha..
Look at this glider
http://marsairplane.larc.nasa.gov/reliability_2.html
AMA and the government didn't stop these 
guys..
How are they going to find me way down there 
Good luck!
Government can't even find O'sama bin 
ladin..
Let alone keep watch on the Borders  Sea 
Ports
Cheers
Al


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Re: [RCSE] height limit for sailplanes! no way!

2005-07-28 Thread Jimmy Prouty
Needless to say, that glider had clearance to go where it did under very 
controlled circumstances.  The problem is that there are people flying in 
controlled airspace as high as 15,000 feet with no coordination.  Of 
course, we can't get there with our thermal ships for obvious reasons but 
the AMA has seen the websites for the guys doing that kind of flying and it 
has them scared.  The FAA advisory currently limits us to 400'.  Is it 
enforced - no.  Could it be - you bet.


E-mail, call, or write your local AMA guru and (politely) state your case 
for higher altitudes.  We're not the only ones this restriction will 
hurt.  Ever seen a jet do a speed pass and then pull up to slow 
down?  Takes much more than 1000'!


As far as the government's performance is concerned - I think there's a 
different forum for that..


Happy flying,

Jimmy
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Re: [RCSE] AMA's position with regard to soaring

2005-07-28 Thread Bill Swingle
In Dave Brown's defense;

Let's try to remember that he MAY be asking only for something attainable.
While possibly knowing that anything higher just won't be agreed to.

I wonder if the FAA would even consider 2000'AGL. Personally, I doubt it.

Bill Swingle



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Re: [RCSE] height limit for sailplanes! no way!

2005-07-28 Thread Albert E. Wedworth

Hi Jim
Al
^The FAA advisory currently limits us to 400'.^  
That would be around airports not at the flying field.

Sorry Jim
Take care.
Al


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RE: [RCSE] AMA's position with regard to soaring

2005-07-28 Thread John Derstine
Probably what will happen is that R/C soaring and other high altitude
sport/hobbies that use airspace (as in model rockets), will require
special dates, venues, and windows of opportunity provided by special
FAA waiver. Large model rocketry already is regulated by this process.
It is only a matter of time before ALL aerosports requiring higher than
normal altitudes are monitored and regulated by FAA waiver, if, that
is, they exceed the limit set by the AMA FAA for unregulated club
flying. So 700-1000 feet would actually be a godsend if and when the
hammer falls. I foresee a time when virtually all organized R/C flying
(other than the Parkflyer unregulated low power stuff) will take place
on controlled sites governed by the AMA and its club infrastructure.
Perhaps the idea of regional flying sites similar to Muncie, but put in
locations where most of us actually live might bear some consideration.
How we preserve our sport will require some insightful proactive
thinking, and willingness to compromise. The notion that everything can
stay the same as it was in the past is probably at best naïve.
JD

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http://www.scalesoaring.com
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 -Original Message-
 From: Allan/Tara [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2005 4:54 PM
 To: Soaring@airage.com
 Subject: [RCSE] AMA's position with regard to soaring
 
 In the current issue of Model Aviation which I received today I
 found
 the Presidents Perspective page quite interesting. It makes it quite
 evident that there is a complete lack knowledge as to what we in the
 soaring
 community are all about.
 In his remarks he (Dave Brown) states that his recommendation to
the
 FAA
 is that a minimum altitude restriction be set at 700' and preferably
 1,000'.
 Probably just fine for the slime machines but a death blow to
 sailplanes.
 These restrictions while unenforceable, would in essence make the even
 average weekend flier a lawbreaker,not to mention the whole liability
 problem.
 Anybody out there have any idea as to who to contact to get this
thing
 turned around,somebody who will make the AMA listen !
 Allan Parsons
 
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Re: [RCSE] height limit for sailplanes! no way!

2005-07-28 Thread Ben Diss

It's not limiting either.  It's an advisory.  It's like asking nicely.

-Ben

Albert E. Wedworth wrote:

Hi Jim
Al
^The FAA advisory currently limits us to 400'.^  That would be around 
airports not at the flying field.

Sorry Jim
Take care.
Al


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Re: [RCSE] height limit for sailplanes! no way!

2005-07-28 Thread Doug McLaren
On Thu, Jul 28, 2005 at 02:53:06PM -0700, Albert E. Wedworth wrote:

| ^The FAA advisory currently limits us to 400'.^  
| That would be around airports not at the flying field.

You're probably thinking of the AMA rules.  The FCC advisory in
question says something different.  Read it yourself at
http://www.modelaircraft.org/PDF-files/540-C.pdf.

The relevant section reads --

   c. Do not fly model aircraft higher than 400 feet above the
   surface. When flying aircraft within 3 miles of an airport, notify the
   airport operator, or when an air traffic facility is located at the
   airport, notify the control tower, or flight service station.

But yes, this is advisory, not law.

   1. PURPOSE. This advisory circular outlines, and encourages voluntary
   compliance with, safety standards for model aircraft operators.

It's also 24 years old.  Not that this stuff has changed much (though
the advistory does seem to assume that all model airplanes make lots
of noise) but it shows how the FAA has pretty much left us alone.
(As it should be.)

But yes, I think it would be a very good thing to let Dave Brown know
what you think of his proposed altitude limits.  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
is the address he gives in the piece, so that would seem to be the
appropriate place to send your thoughts.

-- 
Doug McLaren, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sometimes the only way to win is not to play
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Re: [RCSE] Sirius Charger Update

2005-07-28 Thread eholt

What's up with that?
Is my trusty ol' Sirius charger gonna blow?
Ed

what is the reason for an update to a
 Sirius
 charger?

 Thanks,

 John Fruge

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 Subject: [RCSE] Sirius Charger Update


I need to update my Sirius charger.  George Joy, Whether art thou?  Where
and how much?
 ThankU
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[RCSE] AMA the Nats. Radio Policy ?

2005-07-28 Thread Ron Widel
This is a question to any contestants at the Nats. or attendee's

I know the AMA's offical radio policy is, that no non factory post 
radio modifications are allowed.
I know many modifications take place and seem to go un noticed ie. 
battery MAH's, Switch modifications, computer prom changes to add more 
model memory.
But what I'm really interested in is the change you can really see and 
that is the deletion of the factory whip antenna and the replacement of 
the Rubber Duck type of antenna.

Well back to the question, do any of you there see any ducky
type antennas and AMA just turns a bind eye?
Thanks for any info,
Ron Widel



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[RCSE] Gordy's Chat room? A challenge to post something about rc soaring...

2005-07-28 Thread GordySoar



Justify that with something I posted that was not RC 
soaring related...
I just got home to see the whining about the lack of rc soaring content on 
the RCSEall of you posting to the soaring exchange have had the opportunity 
to post something about your soaring projects, flights and fun, but instead you 
chose to post non soaring whining about no soaring content. Kind of shows 
that you may not actually be 'doing' anything rc soaring related worth talking 
about. :-)

Not the same for me! I just walked in to see a huge box from Hitec 
packed with their new F5J molded EPP Easy Glider 2m's and the not so new but not 
yet tested in full house sailpanes, 8 channel DSP RX, and in my pocket is the 
latest Shadow RX's, substantial software changes, a couple of key component 
changes (small but important for big, multi servo plane use) and a couple of new 
features.what are they all? No idea, just got home so will take some 
time to report on them..
But apparently you guys don't want to know about any of the above, so may 
have to send it all directly to RCSD for publication. :-)
Gordy
Home from 6 days competing, soaring, and reporting rc soaring nats info at 
the Nationals...where were you and what has the soaring content of your posts 
been?...or have they all been off topic chat about posting 
comments?


[RCSE] green air

2005-07-28 Thread Mickey Sullivan
   I've been a subscriber for years. Mostly I read the input, once in a
while a question or comment. These last two years my work has kept me from
flying a much as I'd like. My quarter scale 1-26 has seen almost 13 years of
TD contests. The quarter scale Orlik 2 has seen nearly two hundred aerotows.
   On the building board now sits a 40% Orlik 2 fuselage, plans drawn over a
year from photos and three views from John Serafin, who once owned and flew
the Orlik. There is only one remaining full size Orlik left in the world.
There are no factory plans of this gorgeous vintage Polish single seater,
unlike many British and German sailplanes of the same era. This project in
part is a way to remember the Orlik designer, Antonia Kocjan and the people
who built 18 of these birds. Antonia was a leader in the Polish resistance
in Warsaw in WW II. The other reason is that I love to glue wood together.
   All the people who contribute their soaring experience and expertise to
the soaring exchange really inspire me.

Green Air,

Mickey Sullivan 

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Re: [RCSE] Is there an optometrist...

2005-07-28 Thread D Hauch
I have a feeling next we see Daryl he's going to look like
Harry Carry.  :-)

Dave Hauch
www.git-r-built.com

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From: Daryl Perkins [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Phil Townsend [EMAIL PROTECTED]; soaring@airage.com
Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2005 10:06 AM
Subject: Re: [RCSE] Is there an optometrist...


 So DP, just what will your New airplane be named???
 The Schrink?

 That has already been suggested. And... since I'll be
 needing a new 2 meter... look for the Insane Shrink
 2 soon

 Don't usually do a new plane til the break-up... but
 in this case I'm sure she'll understand... ;-)

 Thanks for all the input guys. A trip to the ol' eye
 doctor is in order when I get home. I hope she's
 hot... ;-)

 D


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[RCSE] Woody Roundup!!!

2005-07-28 Thread Jack Womack
OK... I've been asked to host the Woody Roundup again.
I can truly not come up with a reason not to... so,
it's on! We have had it over Labor Day Weekend in the
past, but I have a conflict this year. That being
said, what's your pleasure... the weekend before, or
the weekend after? Let's take a vote at the field on
Saturday. If you can't be there... send me a private
email and I'll count your vote. I need to get the
sanction going so if I don't hear from you by
Saturday, sin loi... (Vietnamese for, Sorry about
that.) We will fly 2 days. The task will be 1 round
of 10 minute duration; 1 round of 11 minute duration;
1 round of 12 minute duration; 1 round of 13 minute
duration. All will have a landing option that will be
a tie breaker ONLY. In other words, if more than one
pilot has a perfect flight, only the one with the
closest landing will receive landing points, up to 10.
Only 1 pilot per round will be awarded landing points,
and only if you have a perfect flight score. Ties
other that perfect will stand as ties. If niether
pilot scores a landing, the tie for the round will
remain. In the VERY unlikely event of an overall tie,
there will be a 7-minute flyoff with landing.
Skegs/sharks teeth, etc. will be allowed. Wheels will
not be allowed. Winch length will be wheeled and all
winches will be 600'. If times are being made
consistently, lines may be shortened for subsequent
rounds. If you wish to bring a hi-start, the max
stretched length of the hi-start will be the same as
the winch length.

Definition of a Woody: A model sailplane of wood
construction, with open rib bays after the spar, with
any material for spars and fuselage. No molded, foam,
or composite parts may be used for the wing or
empennage, except the spar and/or carbon capped ribs.
For our purpose, the molded fin on a fiberglass
fuselage is considered part of the fuselage. Any
control configuration is allowed. This is NOT an RES
contest.

AVA lovers and Topaz whizkids, etc... don't fret we'll
have a separate class for you, too... so bring 'em!
We'll probably call it the LOW class, but, you never
know, we may came up with a better name... You didn't
think I'd leave you out, now did you? Yes, Bill
Estill's bagged stuff falls in there, too. 

The CD - ME - will have final say as to aircraft
class.

I am committed to the contest, and I have set the
task. I probably won't change it. The scoring will be
a penny a point... oops... a point per second... yeah,
that's it!

We'll have it whether we sanction it or not. Entry fee
is $5- per day. The club will keep half for it's
trouble, and the other half will be split among the
top 3 flyers on a sliding scale, of course.

Y'all come back, now,... hear?

Jack Womack





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Re: [RCSE] Why are so many guys unsubscribing?

2005-07-28 Thread Denoferth
In my case I subscribe to the digest version of  10 or 12 lists.  I don't 
read them on my employers time, I do it after  work, at home. So when a 
particular group is just too inept, too dumb or too  inconsiderate to simply 
highlight 
a small part of the text before hitting the  reply or worse yet, the reply 
all key, all of us get pages and pages of  repeated text. The argument that I 
should simply hit the delete key is a pretty  P poor response. It's not about 
the delete key, it's about the time. Dumping the  list might be an option but 
just occasionally, there is a jewel of an idea that  would be a pity to miss. 
Lately, some of you have been resending the whole  volume over and over for 
up to five repeats. Count the little chevrons in the  right margin sometime to 
see how many times the same message has been resent. It  gets a little tedious 
wading through all that just to discover they are  discussing the effect of a 
fat gut on launch height or something equally  esoteric. All in all this is 
probably just another waste of time and space.  Those of us who are considerate 
enough not to do it know who we are and those  who insist on doing it 
probably don't have a clue and never will. I would bet  they are the same 
people who 
do not know what their turn signals are for or how  to take your turn at a 
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