[RCSE] YNT uDesign & ALTi2 Logger - Unable to Reach?

[Sheldon-YNT uDesign]

Sorry, but this was 
the only way that I could think to possibly reconnect...
 
I've just gotten out 
of the hospital after an "unplanned" emergency stay for the past week. A few 
days prior to my illness, a couple of people had contacted me regarding the 
ALTi2. At that time a new shipment was on-order but I did not have any idea as 
to delivery time.
The new shipment 
should be here this week or early next week. If those individuals that had 
contacted me would please email me off-line or call, I'll be happy to get them 
fixed-up with their ALTi2 units.
 
TIA,
 
Sheldon~YNT

Re: [RCSE] Supra #42 problem

[Simon Van Leeuwen]

The problem here is that any sort of repair will never have the integral 
strength of the original lay-up. Essentially any adhesive employed will 
only be attaching itself to already-cured laminate/matrix.


The most appropriate adhesive would be the original epoxy-type, but I 
would liek to drive the point home that you will never achieve a 
homgenous bond (single cured phase) given the already cured materials 
present. This will be a problem.


Given what I see in those pics, you are going to have to somehow attach 
the wing mounting system such that the loads are transfered "directly" 
to the rest of the lower fuselage.


If you do somehow determine what epoxy was employed, and can figure out 
a reliable means of mechanically re-attaching the wing hold-down system, 
and you actauly(!) decide to use that fuse again...consider autoclaving 
(hotbox) the entire repair at ~120-130F for a few hours, then allow to 
cool slowly. However check first to see whether the design is already 
heat-cured - if so then this elevated cure process will not be 
effective. This will cause the existing cured matrix and the now-new 
matrix to be elevated past their room temp glass transition point. The 
result will be at least a partial bonding of the old and new.


I suggest that lateral loads from catching wingtips is going to create 
concern with this pod/boom system. I wish you luck with the repair 
attempt




[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Supra Enthusiasts,
 
Check out the latest failure mode shown on my web site 
(www.hilaunch.com ) under photos.  The 
beginning of the problem showed at Phoenix when the rear of the CF cap 
that holds the wing attachment nuts came loose.  I applied a generous 
amount of epoxy, but that repair did not solve the problem.  On a 
landing yesterday, the entire wing with the hold down bolts popped from 
the fuse.  Fortunately the landing had been completed and there was no 
additional damage.
 
If you have a good idea about how to repair this problem, send me an 
email.
 
Don Richmond

San Diego, CA (Pensacola, FL today)
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
www.hilaunch.com


--
Simon Van Leeuwen
RADIUS SYSTEMS
PnP SYSTEMS - The E-Harness of Choice
Cogito Ergo Zooom

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Re: [RCSE] Supra #42 problem

[LJolly]

Don,
 Clean up the cured epoxy around the edges with some 80 grit. 
Make sure you get everything shiny keyed and scuffed. Remove the wire harness. 
Procure some small carbon fiber sock material 1/4" diameter should be good. Cut 
a length that will fit the perimeter of the wing hold down about a 1/4 "from the 
edge. Make up some slow cure epoxy and some fairly thick slurry with cotton 
flocking. Wet the tube out on plastic and lay it in place on the pod side of the 
wing mount. Using the tube as a dam apply a seam of flocking around the edge of 
the mount. Use some of the epoxy to wet the top cap where it will touch the 
flocking and the tube. If there is any place that the bolt hold downs can touch 
the pod sides apply a coat of cotton flocking slurry. Push the top plate into 
posiiton and if it goes down all the way tape the edge with packing tape. If it 
will not go down rearrange the sock by pushing it towards the center of the 
mount. Now turn the fuselage upside down and clean the excess epoxy off the 
exterior of the fuse pod. Keep the fuselage upside down over night. That should 
do the trick. Best Regards Larry

Re: [RCSE] Supra #42 problem

[Paul Emerson]

Dear #1 through #99,

I was within 20 feet of the "crash" - remember I was out there hunting
for a dropped pocketknife. The plane tapping the wires and landing in
the tilled dust that is desert farm land was softer than any
competition landings I have seen.

I would recommend that the saddle area be beefed up before y'all go
flying again.

Paul
www.casl.net
PS Fusions Rule!


On 3/27/06, Jim Laurel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Before this whole thread gets out of control, we should all remember
> that #42 was CRASHED at Phoenix.  From what I heard, it went into
> some power lines, then crashed from around 75ft.  Apparently, the
> repair wasn't adequate.
>
> Just because the Supra wing mount didn't survive a crash, doesn't
> mean it is not correctly designed to withstand the normal stresses of
> hard launches and contest landings.
>
> My Supra will be here in a few days, and I will have no qualms about
> flying it hard!
>
> Cheers - Jim Laurel
> Seattle Area Soaring Society
>
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Re: [RCSE] Supra #42 problem

[Marta Zavala]

From Dons pics all I can say is break out the checkbook!
- Original Message - 
From: "Jim Laurel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "rcse Yahoo" 
Sent: Monday, March 27, 2006 5:48 PM
Subject: Re: [RCSE] Supra #42 problem


Before this whole thread gets out of control, we should all remember  that 
#42 was CRASHED at Phoenix.  From what I heard, it went into  some power 
lines, then crashed from around 75ft.  Apparently, the  repair wasn't 
adequate.


Just because the Supra wing mount didn't survive a crash, doesn't  mean it 
is not correctly designed to withstand the normal stresses of  hard 
launches and contest landings.


My Supra will be here in a few days, and I will have no qualms about 
flying it hard!


Cheers - Jim Laurel
Seattle Area Soaring Society


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Re: [RCSE] Supra #42 problem - the real story

[Darwin N. Barrie]

I saw Don hit the wires and it did not hit the ground that hard. For those 
who are wondering why Don's plane was not a smoldering pile of rubble, the power 
had been knocked out earlier by a plane that became the above mentioned pile of 
smoldering rubble. 
 
I'm curious if there have been other unreported failures. I'm sure that 
Don's flying style is not atypical of the common TD pilot. If so, there are 
probably other failures out there. From the pictures, this certainly doesn't 
look like the best possible mounting system.
 
Darwin N. Barrie
Chandler AZ

      While it is true that the Supra encountered the wires, 
  it is not true that it crashed from 75 ft.  It was rejected by the wires 
  and flown to the ground without any damage.
   
   

Re: [RCSE] Supra #42 problem - the real story

[Hilaunch]

In a message dated 3/27/2006 5:49:00 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Before this whole thread gets out of control, we should all remember  that #42 was CRASHED at Phoenix.  From what I heard, it went into  some power lines, then crashed from around 75ft.  Apparently, the  repair wasn't adequate.
    While it is true that the Supra encountered the wires, it is not true that it crashed from 75 ft.  It was rejected by the wires and flown to the ground without any damage.
 
    The problem with the rear hold down bolt was discovered three flights later following a "dork" landing.  This was repaired with a generous amount of epoxy applied to the separated area. 
 
    The latest failure occurred approximately 50 flights later during another firm landing.  How it held together for the preceding launch is just good luck.  
 
    In my opinion, if you only launch hard, but land gently, you will not have a problem.  Unfortunately, this is not my style. Occasionally I spear the landing.
 
Don Richmond

Re: [RCSE] Supra #42 problem

[Jim Laurel]

Before this whole thread gets out of control, we should all remember  
that #42 was CRASHED at Phoenix.  From what I heard, it went into  
some power lines, then crashed from around 75ft.  Apparently, the  
repair wasn't adequate.


Just because the Supra wing mount didn't survive a crash, doesn't  
mean it is not correctly designed to withstand the normal stresses of  
hard launches and contest landings.


My Supra will be here in a few days, and I will have no qualms about  
flying it hard!


Cheers - Jim Laurel
Seattle Area Soaring Society


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Re: [RCSE] Supra #42 problem, FIX :-) - ???

[Hilaunch]

In a message dated 3/27/2006 4:45:39 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Thats a poor fix Gordy
        Is there a good fix for Gordy??
 
Don Richmond 
 

Re: [RCSE] Supra #42 problem

[Ben Wilson]

Mark's original Supra pod and hold-down design can be found in this PDF:

http://www.charlesriverrc.org/articles/supra/all%20PDFs/supra_fuse.pdf

The fore bolt goes down into a 1/2" ply bulkhead, and the aft bolt 
appears to be in the pylon itself.


Though, immediately upon reading this, I thought of the way the wing 
bolts onto an XP-4 DLG, since it's pod is very "Supra-esque".  Take a 
look here:


http://www.polecataero.com/v/xp4/200601-djensenxp45/200601-djensenxp45+17-wingbolt3.JPG.html


[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Supra Enthusiasts,
 
Check out the latest failure mode shown on my web site 
(www.hilaunch.com ) under photos.  The 
beginning of the problem showed at Phoenix when the rear of the CF cap 
that holds the wing attachment nuts came loose.  I applied a generous 
amount of epoxy, but that repair did not solve the problem.  On a 
landing yesterday, the entire wing with the hold down bolts popped 
from the fuse.  Fortunately the landing had been completed and there 
was no additional damage.
 
If you have a good idea about how to repair this problem, send me 
an email.
 
Don Richmond

San Diego, CA (Pensacola, FL today)
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
www.hilaunch.com


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Re: [RCSE] Supra #42 problem

[mrmaserati]

Don,
It's hard to tell what you have to work with for repairs even though your pics 
are pretty good.  For adhesive I would say WELD epoxy is the stuff you want to 
use here and I would install a pair of new T-nuts between two layers of .050 
carbon sheet under the original saddle cap. Also a piece of 1/16" ply sheet 
above the t-nut heads between the carbon layers. Put this sandwich together and 
install on the pylon wet taking care to get straight and level. The WELD epoxy 
has a fairly long working time so all this is possible. At this point I 
wouldn't worry much about added weight for this size bird, but I would also 
order a new set of fuse parts for down the road.

Regards, Dave Corven.
 -- Original message --
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Supra Enthusiasts,
> 
> Check out the latest failure mode shown on my web site (www.hilaunch.com) 
> under photos.  The beginning of the problem showed at Phoenix when the rear 
> of the CF cap that holds the wing attachment nuts came loose.  I applied a 
> generous amount of epoxy, but that repair did not solve the problem.  On a 
> landing 
> yesterday, the entire wing with the hold down bolts popped from the fuse.  
> Fortunately the landing had been completed and there was no additional damage.
> 
> If you have a good idea about how to repair this problem, send me an 
> email.
> 
> Don Richmond
> San Diego, CA (Pensacola, FL today)
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> www.hilaunch.com



--- Begin Message ---


Supra Enthusiasts,
 
    Check out the latest failure mode shown on my web site (www.hilaunch.com) under photos.  The beginning of the problem showed at Phoenix when the rear of the CF cap that holds the wing attachment nuts came loose.  I applied a generous amount of epoxy, but that repair did not solve the problem.  On a landing yesterday, the entire wing with the hold down bolts popped from the fuse.  Fortunately the landing had been completed and there was no additional damage.
 
    If you have a good idea about how to repair this problem, send me an email.
 
Don RichmondSan Diego, CA (Pensacola, FL today)[EMAIL PROTECTED]www.hilaunch.com
--- End Message ---

RE: [RCSE] Supra #42 problem

[Lex Mierop]

So you've got some in stock after replacing the one that had a jiggawatt of
power run through it's wing at the SWC

-l

:-) :-) :-)

 -Original Message-
From: Tom Copp [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, March 27, 2006 3:57 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; soaring@airage.com
Subject: RE: [RCSE] Supra #42 problem


That's all holding your wings on

Guys, Zenith carbons in stock call NOW!

Tom Copp
Composite Specialties
www.f3x.com
949-645-7032
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Re: [RCSE] Supra #42 problem, FIX :-)

[Marta Zavala]

Thats a poor fix Gordy.

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  To: soaring@airage.com 
  Sent: Monday, March 27, 2006 4:35 
PM
  Subject: [RCSE] Supra #42 problem, FIX 
  :-)
  
  I can't believe that the only thing holding the wing bolts on is that 
  thin cf cap.  Very poor engineering.  The trick now is how to do 
  something to the ones that haven't popped off yet.  I really don't 
  want to cut mine off, but it is probably better than loosing a wing -- or 
  whole plane.
   
  I have been following Don's thread, since just after his #42 had been 
  crashed a few times at AZ, so I have decided to modify my Supra's fuse so that 
  that the wing bolt nuts and fuse 'cap' won't give out on mine after crashing a 
  few times.
  the answer is Bondo...well bondo and cloth. I figure if I wrap enough 
  cloth around that super light pod construction, (picture one of the three 
  stooges with a toothache head wrap to get a better idea of my fix).  The 
  glop her up with Bondo, likely it will never crack or anything of the like 
  after its been nosed in hard from a power line drop.
  Don if you want I can send more detail on the fix :-)
  Looks like its time for a new pod, since no glue is going to hold 
  under the incredible twisting and flexing the pylon gets during launches and 
  landings.
   
  Gordy

Re: [RCSE] Supra #42 problem

[Marta Zavala]

Am I seeing that right?  The wing hold down 
nuts are simply attached to the bottom of that top cap that pulled off? No 
bulkhead or anything inside
the pylon/fuse to hold the wing mount nuts in 
place??   If so I wouldnt put it back together the same 
way.  Id say do a bulkhead type arrangement like MD does in the 
Supras.  If you have the holdown bolt
going thru the bottom of a thick round 
bukhead, to which the nut is attached at the bottom of, it wont be able to pull 
up thru the pylon, unless of course the pylon rips off!  Bring out the full 
on two man tows guys!!
Walter

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Tom Copp 
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; soaring@airage.com 
  Sent: Monday, March 27, 2006 3:56 
PM
  Subject: RE: [RCSE] Supra #42 
  problem
  
  
  That’s all holding 
  your wings on
   
  Guys, Zenith carbons 
  in stock call NOW!
   
  
  Tom 
  Copp
  Composite 
  Specialties
  www.f3x.com
  949-645-7032
   
  -Original 
  Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent: Monday, March 27, 2006 
  2:51 PMTo: soaring@airage.comCc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: [RCSE] Supra #42 
  problem
   
  
  Supra 
  Enthusiasts,
  
   
  
      Check out the 
  latest failure mode shown on my web site (www.hilaunch.com) under photos.  The 
  beginning of the problem showed at Phoenix when the rear of the CF cap that 
  holds the wing attachment nuts came loose.  I applied a generous amount 
  of epoxy, but that repair did not solve the problem.  On a landing 
  yesterday, the entire wing with the hold down bolts popped from the 
  fuse.  Fortunately the landing had been completed and there was no 
  additional damage.
  
   
  
      If you have a 
  good idea about how to repair this problem, send me an 
  email.
  
   
  
  Don RichmondSan Diego, CA 
  (Pensacola, FL 
  today)[EMAIL PROTECTED]www.hilaunch.com

[RCSE] Supra #42 problem, FIX :-)

[GordySoar]

I can't believe that the only thing holding the wing bolts on is that thin 
cf cap.  Very poor engineering.  The trick now is how to do 
something to the ones that haven't popped off yet.  I really don't want 
to cut mine off, but it is probably better than loosing a wing -- or whole 
plane.
 
I have been following Don's thread, since just after his #42 had been 
crashed a few times at AZ, so I have decided to modify my Supra's fuse so that 
that the wing bolt nuts and fuse 'cap' won't give out on mine after crashing a 
few times.
the answer is Bondo...well bondo and cloth. I figure if I wrap enough 
cloth around that super light pod construction, (picture one of the three 
stooges with a toothache head wrap to get a better idea of my fix).  The 
glop her up with Bondo, likely it will never crack or anything of the like after 
its been nosed in hard from a power line drop.
Don if you want I can send more detail on the fix :-)
Looks like its time for a new pod, since no glue is going to hold under 
the incredible twisting and flexing the pylon gets during launches and 
landings.
 
Gordy

RE: [RCSE] Supra #42 problem

[Tom Copp]

That’s all holding your wings on

 

Guys, Zenith carbons in stock call NOW!

 



Tom Copp

Composite
Specialties

www.f3x.com

949-645-7032



 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, March 27, 2006 2:51
PM
To: soaring@airage.com
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [RCSE] Supra #42 problem

 



Supra Enthusiasts,





 





    Check out the
latest failure mode shown on my web site (www.hilaunch.com)
under photos.  The beginning of the problem showed at Phoenix when the
rear of the CF cap that holds the wing attachment nuts came loose.  I
applied a generous amount of epoxy, but that repair did not solve the
problem.  On a landing yesterday, the entire wing with the hold down bolts
popped from the fuse.  Fortunately the landing had been completed and
there was no additional damage.





 





    If you have a
good idea about how to repair this problem, send me an email.





 





Don
Richmond
San Diego, CA (Pensacola, FL today)
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
www.hilaunch.com

Re: [RCSE] Supra #42 problem

[inventorforhire]

I can't believe that the only thing holding the wing bolts on is that thin 
cf cap.  Very poor engineering.  The trick now is how to do something to the 
ones that haven't popped off yet.  I really don't want to cut mine off, but 
it is probably better than loosing a wing -- or whole plane.


My suggestion for you, since it's already off, is to glue a thick blocks 
across the pod and insert a threaded rod for the screws.  You can probably 
just cut out the existing ones, or even glue the existing blocks into the 
new blocks  Then just use the cap to cover everything, but not as support 
for the wing.
Other option is to glue 1/4" plywood down flush in the pod. and put the 
threaded rods in it.


Tom


- Original Message - 
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: soaring@airage.com
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, March 27, 2006 5:50 PM
Subject: [RCSE] Supra #42 problem


Supra Enthusiasts,

   Check out the latest failure mode shown on my web site 
(www.hilaunch.com) under photos.  The beginning of the problem showed at 
Phoenix when the rear of the CF cap that holds the wing attachment nuts came 
loose.  I applied a generous amount of epoxy, but that repair did not solve 
the problem.  On a landing yesterday, the entire wing with the hold down 
bolts popped from the fuse.  Fortunately the landing had been completed and 
there was no additional damage.


   If you have a good idea about how to repair this problem, send me an 
email.


Don Richmond
San Diego, CA (Pensacola, FL today)
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
www.hilaunch.com 



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[RCSE] Supra #42 problem

[Hilaunch]

Supra Enthusiasts,
 
    Check out the latest failure mode shown on my web site (www.hilaunch.com) under photos.  The beginning of the problem showed at Phoenix when the rear of the CF cap that holds the wing attachment nuts came loose.  I applied a generous amount of epoxy, but that repair did not solve the problem.  On a landing yesterday, the entire wing with the hold down bolts popped from the fuse.  Fortunately the landing had been completed and there was no additional damage.
 
    If you have a good idea about how to repair this problem, send me an email.
 
Don RichmondSan Diego, CA (Pensacola, FL today)[EMAIL PROTECTED]www.hilaunch.com

Re: [RCSE] Mini towline winch on eBay

[inventorforhire]

launch




Can't fly and lauch at the same time.

T

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To: 
Sent: Monday, March 27, 2006 2:03 PM
Subject: [RCSE] Mini towline winch on eBay


Awhile ago someone was looking for a light winch for their HLG--one from 
the U.K. is up for auction on eBay, item # 6047025236.  Currently going 
for $22.64 w/ 5 days to go.  They'll ship to the U.S.


Jeff
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Re: [RCSE] Mini towline winch on eBay

[inventorforhire]

Can't fly and lauch at the same time.

T

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From: "Jeff Thompson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: 
Sent: Monday, March 27, 2006 2:03 PM
Subject: [RCSE] Mini towline winch on eBay


Awhile ago someone was looking for a light winch for their HLG--one from 
the U.K. is up for auction on eBay, item # 6047025236.  Currently going 
for $22.64 w/ 5 days to go.  They'll ship to the U.S.


Jeff
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[RCSE] Mini towline winch on eBay

[Jeff Thompson]

Awhile ago someone was looking for a light winch for their HLG--one from 
the U.K. is up for auction on eBay, item # 6047025236.  Currently going 
for $22.64 w/ 5 days to go.  They'll ship to the U.S.


Jeff
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[RCSE] Banos BASH photos up

[Steven Bixby]

In a collaboration with Bill Swingle, I put some photos of last Sunday's
BASH up for all to enjoy.  Bill tried to post the notice below and
seemed to have some trouble, so I am posting his:

===

The weekend before last we had a BASH at Los Banos. It was great! Lots
of
FLYING (I got 3 hours on my transmitter!!).

Well, thanks to Mr. Steven Bixby, we now have a web page with photos!
It's at:

http://www.bixbys.net/bash-03-2006

Good ol' Steve not only took the pictures, he gave us a web page! What a
guy. Thanks buddy.

By the way, looking at Steve's pics I'm finding that I need a new
digital
camera. His are so clear compared to what I shoot. It seems that my 1.3
megapixels just don't cut it any more. Dang I guess my midrange camera
is
outa date. It's only 5 years old! ;-)

Take a look. The closeup of Tim modeling his new goggles makes a good,
if
not startling, computer wallpaper. :-) (would you climb into a jet being
flown by this guy?) hehehehe Ya gotta love Tim! He's great to fly with.
Really.


Bill Swingle
Janesville, CA
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[RCSE] Simulator interface

[Joe Parsons]

I am looking for a USB interface cable to use my Stylus with the FMS simulator.

Any recommendations? And will the mixing functions in the transmitter work?

Joe Parsons

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[RCSE] FOR SALE - Sport Winch by FabTek

[Frank Leppla]

FabTek Sport Winch for sale on ebay. Item # 
6046888303
 
No reserve. Starting price $75.00
 
Auction ends April 1st 1730 PST. 
 
Previous auction was cancelled by ebay due my account 

being hacked on their system. The same thing will not 
happen
again. Now have a special secured account.
 
thelep <"at"> hotmail.com

[RCSE] Re: Aeroperfect people

[High_Altitude]

The AeroPerfect Digital Meter will be available by late April.  Thanks
for your interest in this precision tool.

'AeroPerfect' (http://www.AeroPerfect.com) 

Marl Bell


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Re: [RCSE] Swapping Crystals in Airtronics Frequency Modules

[Bill Swingle]

Airtronics sells TX crystals??

This news to me. It used to be their policy to absolutely NOT sell TX 
crystals.


Bill Swingle
Janesville, CA


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[RCSE] HLG Batteries

[Douglas, Brent]

Title: HLG Batteries






I can't get to Yahoo Groups from work lately, and I wonder what you all are using for HLG batteries... Saw a 3-cell KAN setup, wondered if that was too exotic (also, did not get the MaH numbers, so I couldn't pursue that).

Initially this would be for a poly, 2 servo ship, but I'd also like to know how much that changes for a 4 servo ship.  


I've just been out of HLG too long, any help would be great.


Thanks,

Brent

Re: [RCSE] The World's Fastest Indian

[Dave M]

Dear Mr Lyles, while I have not personally 
seen the film, I am led to believe that the lead role played by Sir Anthony 
Hopkins in this movie, was that of a real New Zealander and not one of our 
cousins from the West Island of New Zealand, also occassionally 

known as 'Australia.   : )
 
Regards
Dave Morgan
Auckland
New Zealand
Where men are men and sheep are positively 
paranoid
 
.
 

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  A. B. Lyles 
  
  To: Soaring@airage.com 
  Sent: Sunday, March 26, 2006 8:29 
AM
  Subject: [RCSE] The World's Fastest 
  Indian
  
  Hey -- If you are tired of building SP and flying 
  sailplanes, take a break.   Take your Wife and go see this movie, 
  especially if you are over 50 years of age.
   
  Based on true event, speed records with an old 
  Indian Motorcycle.  The man was from down under.( Australian 
  )
   
  You will like it GV.
   
  A.B.