Re: [RCSE] old posts
In a message dated 08/04/2008 9:56:03 AM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Anyone else receiving posts that are over 2 weeks old? AJ I've attributed it to an uprising deep in the bowels of the undergound, nuclear hardened compound where RCSE posts are screened for their security threat. All communications had to be shut down. I'm guessing that now that the gatekeepers are back to keep their boots on the necks of the screeners, our stream of important information might thankfully resume. Considering how bad it might have been (recall the horrors of the Janet Jackson wardrobe malfunction or the chaos surrounding Cat Stevens probe of our border fortifications) I've realized that I must accept the reduced flow of sailplane information as being a small part of my patriotic duty. Bill Wingstedt **Looking for a car that's sporty, fun and fits in your budget? Read reviews on AOL Autos. (http://autos.aol.com/cars-BMW-128-2008/expert-review?ncid=aolaut000517 ) RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Contest idea....Time on tow penalty for TD?
In a message dated 07/14/2008 8:21:54 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: After watching the World F3J I had an idea for a contest... Incorporate the time penalty on tow that they have in F3J but in a TD format. You would have a timer at each winch who would time your launch and write that time down on your card... For example if it were a 10 min task and you towed for 6 sec the best time you could get would be a 9:54 even though you flew a perfect 10... Or even better... Double the time on tow penalty, so if it was a 6 sec tow the best time you could get would be 9:48. Seems to me it would throw more strategy and fun into a normal TD contest Suggestions ? Comments? Craig Having read the other replies, I think the solution would be to have a device that timed the length of time the winch motor was on for the launch and deduct that from the score. That would allow a woody to tap up to the top and take their time doing so without incurring the "time on tow" penalty. The penalty would then be for "time using power on tow." Bill Wingstedt **Get the scoop on last night's hottest shows and the live music scene in your area - Check out TourTracker.com! (http://www.tourtracker.com?NCID=aolmus0005000112) RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] A message to D. Perkins, Champion of F3B and Lord of the Calamari
In a message dated 05/31/2008 3:02:06 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: From: Phil Townsend [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, May 31, 2008 12:58 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Soaring@airage.com Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [RCSE] A message to D. Perkins, Champion of F3B and Lord of the Calamari Dear Mr. Perkins It has been quite a few years (maybe 12 years) since I loaned you my “Blessed” stopwatch. You will of course remember that this watch was instrumental in your winning a number of events around the world. Yea THAT watch...The one with MY NAME emblazoned on the back. Mr. Perkins it is time for you return my stopwatch to its rightful owner, now! 2 day FedEx is OK. I thank you. There will be no hard feels or public embarrassment if you act quickly and respond to my request. Yours truly, Phil Bozo Lontz Santa Fe PS. Should you feel that this request is with out meritWell you are wrong, utterly and completely Wrong. I Want MY watch...NOW! Just curious: how is a public demand for return of property avoiding “public embarrassment?” Wouldn’t your purposes be as well served by contacting Mr. Perkins directly? Joe Parsons I seem to recall something about a headline after the hostages were released from Iran in 1981. "HOSTAGES ENJOYING THEIR PRIVACY!" Bill Wingstedt **Get trade secrets for amazing burgers. Watch "Cooking with Tyler Florence" on AOL Food. (http://food.aol.com/tyler-florence?video=4&?NCID=aolfod000302)
Re: [RCSE] "YOU can break Carbon rod for, stab
In a message dated 04/28/2008 12:02:17 AM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It's been pointed out to me that my post in reply to a message from Bill Wingstedt could be read as actually meaning to call him an idiot. I believe a close reading will reveal that I was agreeing with his brass tube/carbon rod trick and complimented him by asking him to make a couple of them for me. However, I can see how it might not look like that. So I want to make clear that I have no negative opinions about Bill, haven't met him, and agree with his post. Ok, maybe I have the negative opinion that he shouldn't call himself an idiot. This isn't the only time where I've been called on something like this, so I thought I'd better make sure that there were no hard feelings where such were not meant. (The other time I remember was on a bicycling list where people had a discussion about whether some kinds of plastic water bottles were toxic. I asserted that only organic goat skins were safe for water, and that vegans were out of luck. Someone I knew actually had a hard time deciding if I was serious. I wasn't.) -Lincoln ravaging engineer who has lost his horde No problems here Lincoln. I read between the lines and got it. I have probably ticked off a few people with my obfuscated meanings and alternate interpretations. But it's nice to know somebody has risen to my defense, unless maybe they were congratulating you for calling me an idiot so they wouldn't have to. :P And even at that, I've deprived them of the satisfaction fo telling me something I don't already know. Bill Wingstedt **Need a new ride? Check out the largest site for U.S. used car listings at AOL Autos. (http://autos.aol.com/used?NCID=aolcmp0030002851)
Re: [RCSE] "YOU can break Carbon rod for stab axles, following the assignme...
I had to put a carbon rod into service as a stab axle once. All I had was one of insufficient diameter. Luckily, I had a piece of brass tubing that it fit into perfectly, and the brass tube fit perfectly into the carriers in the stabs. I thought this was a perfect marriage of the stiffness of the carbon and the pliable durability of the brass. The brass tube kept the carbon from bending and the brass tube kept the carbon from getting nicked and precluded the eventuality of it breaking. I've probably exposed myself to the risk of being called an idiot by the ravaging hordes of engineers that patrol RCSE, armed as they are with equations and wielding calculators, and I am probably guilty of that, but I can say that I have lived to tell the tale. Bill Wingstedt **Need a new ride? Check out the largest site for U.S. used car listings at AOL Autos. (http://autos.aol.com/used?NCID=aolcmp0030002851)
[RCSE] 101 point landing...
I say we give him a style point, even though he rolled past the line. Those skegs with wheels on them are useless. _http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LMiG-VLYMXo_ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LMiG-VLYMXo) Bill Wingstedt **Planning your summer road trip? Check out AOL Travel Guides. (http://travel.aol.com/travel-guide/united-states?ncid=aoltrv000316)
Re: [RCSE] F3B field sound/light system picture
In a message dated 03/25/2008 3:13:12 AM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: SOARING COMMUNITY Im looking for pictures of the F3B system you use and set up at the field that will display the pilot flying letter / number,corresponding lights and also contains the bell, buzzer,whistle sound system.Im also looking for pictures of the cabinet for storing and field use. Please send whatever picture you have even if your system doesnt include working time clock and visual lap counter. Or please give me an email for someone here or in Europe who might be able to help me.Thanks Richard M. Burnoski [EMAIL PROTECTED] Rich, Go here and check out these photos of the 2005 F3B Champsionships in Lappenranta. I think there are several of the equipment you're interested in... _http://home.cyber.ee/arne/f3b-album/_ (http://home.cyber.ee/arne/f3b-album/) Bill Wingstedt **Create a Home Theater Like the Pros. Watch the video on AOL Home. (http://home.aol.com/diy/home-improvement-eric-stromer?video=15?ncid=aolhom000301)
[RCSE] Interesting clamping technique...
_http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mrKKU3xfr_U_ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mrKKU3xfr_U) Bill Wingstedt **The year's hottest artists on the red carpet at the Grammy Awards. Go to AOL Music. (http://music.aol.com/grammys?NCID=aolcmp0030002565)
[RCSE] Daryl's DLG/Winter Building
All I have time for is building the name... Spinster Bill Wingstedt **Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp0030002489 RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] T-Shirt Design Sneak Peak - US F3J Team
In a message dated 01/03/2008 8:05:43 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: T-Shirt Design Sneak Peak - US F3J Team 2008 I have posted my new design for the team T-Shirts on my Glide Fast Journal Blog at: http://glidefast.typepad.com/glidefast/ You can see the new logo and how its' going to look on the shirts. Please buy team gear which will be on sale in a few weeks. Shirts should be available at the Pasadena AMA show. The team needs serious funds this year. Support your guys! Paul Naton Nice design! I like the nod to the Turkish flag with the moon & star... Bill Wingstedt **Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp0030002489 RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] "Jack Benny is 39 and 2.4 is 38?" Thanks for the 'assurances and ...
In a message dated 12/26/2007 2:18:56 AM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Okay I expected the guesses and opinions and assurances. Let's take this one first: But, seriously, are you expecting over 40 sailplanes to be in the air at one time at a typical club field? Those who posted this implied 'everything will be okay' rationale don't attend big events where the problem has never been a conflict of planes in the air, we have clips and impounds and channel assignments for those. The guys who have 2.4 fell in love with them especially because they didn't "have to worry about pins, clips and impounds any more" . Now you can just pull up put your plane together, turn on and fly...even on Visalia Friday. There is a lot more than 50 guys with sailplanes wanting to fly, assemble, program etc on any given major contest day. On is on, regardless of if the models are in the air. ON means transmissions. How is the CD gonna handle 2.4 count and amounts when their owners feel they are safe to turn on at any time? Back to pins on this time they represent count instead of freq channel? 1 thru 39? The next one that I didn't see addressed is the 'mixing' part...what happens when you have Futa, Xtreme, Spectrum, Airtronics, and the Chinese show up together...regardless of numbers. I gotta go with Yogi Berra on this one, "Nobody flies 2.4 anymore. It's too crowded." Bill Wingstedt **See AOL's top rated recipes (http://food.aol.com/top-rated-recipes?NCID=aoltop000304) RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Icon 2
In a message dated 12/20/2007 8:48:45 AM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'm sure this will be a very dynamic plane and competitive with the Euro models. My concern is the launching equipment. With the current crop of moldies, line breaks and winch bogging and ultimate failure are becoming more prevelant. Heavy enough line for these new "super ships," will be a burden for the lighter planes. Yes, I've CD'd lots of contests and a few big ones. We've tried some heavy line and it is great for the heavier planes but the lighter planes and 2 meters have a helluva time overcoming the line drag and weight. Where do we draw the line? Darwin N. Barrie Chandler AZ It could be that the wing area is not more than the Sharon, just a higher aspect ratio, and that it won't generate more lift, but will just have less drag and be more efficient. Bill Wingstedt **See AOL's top rated recipes (http://food.aol.com/top-rated-recipes?NCID=aoltop000304) RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Passion about Icon 2, is it the wingspan?
In a message dated 12/19/2007 7:21:52 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It will be very interesting to see where the price point is for what should be another premium star of a sailplane. I suppose out of reach of most working sailplaners could be an applicable key word. Gordy Fargo tonite sent to the Radio Control Soaring Exchange. __ Sailplane maunfacturers should tak a clue from the insurance industry. They should withdraw a monthly premium from your bank account, and then decide whether or not you are eliglible to receive the latest and greatest sailplane for the flying season, presumably there would be some sort of co-pay arrangement. They would then assess their responsibility to provide you with any spare parts you may need based on how much of your deductible you have satisfied in that year and whether or not your propensity for crashing is hereditary. You would still pay tons of money for a sailplane but at least you could get one and the manufacturers would gain viability, hell, they might even sell stock and have lobbyists representing them in Washington, DC. Bill WIngstedt **See AOL's top rated recipes (http://food.aol.com/top-rated-recipes?NCID=aoltop000304) RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Best Soaring Calendar of All Time????
In a message dated 12/13/2007 5:15:31 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Click the link that follows for probably the most unique soaring calendar of all time. Roller Derby and Sailplanes? Just in time for holidays, this is a limited print calendar that is sure to be a soaring collectors item in the future. Unless they sell out of inventory, I doubt it will be repeated for 2009. To help the team, please order a few for your buddies as gifts! http://www.ocrollergirls.com/ Enjoy! HoUdino Nice V-tail! Bill WIngstedt **See AOL's top rated recipes (http://food.aol.com/top-rated-recipes?NCID=aoltop000304) RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: Fw: [RCSE] Soaring Masters 2008
In a message dated 12/13/2007 3:11:11 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Did I hear that this Masters event will include a distance task and a speed task? We have plenty of contest during the year where we just float around for 10 minutes. Richard I thought that was included in the last one. I remember seeing several planes go real far downwind, real fast. Didn't they win? Bill Wingstedt **See AOL's top rated recipes (http://food.aol.com/top-rated-recipes?NCID=aoltop000304) RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Muncie - Soaring Masters Final Scores
In a message dated 09/26/2006 10:21:52 AM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I didnt see the age chart you guys are talking about.But Im trying to figure out if Im an old guy or a young guy in soaring at 49 years old? Richard _ When one of your grandchildren is a club member, ipso facto, you are old. But you still fly young, so don't worry about it :) Bill Wingstedt RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Oh What A Ride, Extra 300 That Is
Sweet read, Marc. You definitely had a major magic mojo weekend with the ride, the overall Fred champ and clinching the glass eagle. Congratulations, you've earned it! Bill Wingstedt
Re: [RCSE] Re: Clarification- "ESL Contest was tough on me today and Deleware...
In a message dated 09/13/2006 8:47:24 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: That's true. Even Butch beat gordy. At least that is what the T-shirt said. Careful. I've broken the code and indications are that this might be a dangerous cult responsible for promulgating evil conspiracies. Could require an intervention and reprogramming. "I B.E.A.T. GORDY" stands for "I Believe Everything About The Gordy" The helicopters that didn't show up when I discovered this were black. Must...get... back... to/click/.lost signal .white noise...
Re: [RCSE] Soaring Nats Entries
O.K. guys, all we need is a few SWMBO putting together a few of these posts that reference "chestnuts" and "jokers" together and the code for "going to Muncie" will be broken. That could well end the dream of increasing participation at the NATS, as more pilots spend the week chained to their honey-do lists. Me? I entered F3B and here is why, It's on a weekend, so although I could work, It's unlikely that anybody will be able to find me in Muncie, and, as tequila "eez like beer", F3B is just like Unlimited. in a message dated 05/04/2006 5:35:52 AM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Amen to that! You know me to well JB.-Original Message-From: James V. Bacus [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2006 10:21 PMTo: soaring@airage.comSubject: RE: [RCSE] Soaring Nats EntriesWell there is always Jokers... ;-)At 02:34 PM 5/3/2006, Harry DeBoer wrote:> It seams to me every year about this time someone gets a bug up> their butt>about the way the Nat's are run and what class's should or shouldn't be>allowed? Remove the entry level class's and you can be sure of the futureof>our HOBBY! As it is now it is difficult for some to compete against the>Factory sponsored pilots, or the guy who can afford to take time off from>work or family to practice, practice, practice.>>Sorry TK but I had to. Toss me of this forum if you want, I'm tired of the>politics getting in the way of why we are here. These things are TOY>AIRPLANES for pete's sake!JimDowners Grove, ILMember of the Chicago SOAR club, and Team JRAMA 592537 LSF 7560 Level IV R/C Soaring blog at www.jimbacus.netRCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and"unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note thatsubscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format withMIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOLare generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] OT: Powered gliders...
>From another forum: An F-111 was flying escort with a B-52 and generally making a nuisance of himself by flying rolls around the lumbering old bomber. The message for the B-52 crew was, "Anything you can do, I can do better." Not to be outdone, the bomber pilot announced that he would rise to the challenge, however, the B-52 continued flying straight and level. Perplexed, the fighter pilot asked, "So? What did you do?" "We just shut down two engines." Bill Wingstedt RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Soaring Masters..SAR
In a message dated 03/21/2006 9:34:42 AM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Doesn't he need to be an LSF member?? Level 4 or better ? does he have to qualify ??? I mean after all it not like this is F3B ??? 8-) ___ My understanding was you had to be an LSF member. I just got my aspirant papers yesterday. :-) I'm assuming I'm two 5 minute flights and a couple of 10 foot landings away from qualifying...Will the Initial flight groups be seeded by LSF numbers? I'll probably be flying against Daryl then...:-) Bill Wingstedt RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] "Today's Pie Day, but all I got was a Super AVA!"
http://www.angio.net/pi/piquery Here is an interesting site for searching PI for numerical strings, like a birthday perhaps. For instance, February 6, 1956 when entered into the search field as 02061956 will result in a report that the string was found 2,811,196 counting from the first digit after the decimal point. What could be more gratifying that finding your birthday in such a fundamental number? :) It's a marvelous waste of time:) Bill Wingstedt RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Evolution of RC RF
In a message dated 02/23/2006 11:28:34 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Now that governments have discovered that there's a cash cow to be milked auctioning off the spectrum -- one of the reasons for the move to digital TV is to free up half the old UHF TV band and the VHF TV bands for sale -- so the chances of us getting a slice for free is, I'd guess, relatively slim. __ Free?! Government confiscates nearly half of everything I earn! Then they sell "freedom", "protection", "service" for every vote and now we have to buy our radio frequencies back at inflated prices so they can waste more money...:-) Arrghhh! Bill Wingstedt RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Olympics - off topic
In a message dated 02/15/2006 9:09:30 AM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: HummmBeaver Stampeed well sighn me up. Heck I got into soaring because I read that the club had the need for Winch Masters.Just to add the soaring content back in (sort of)Dr Danny C. Williams Co Springs Co I've been thinking that the ski jumpers need some webbing on their sleeves to float down the hill a little farther...probably illegal? Also, how about some velcro tabs on the gloves and hips of the speed skaters to make keeping that hand on their back easier...or just a loop to hook their thumb in... Bill Wingstedt
Re: [RCSE] Super Vision without bionics
In a message dated 02/09/2006 7:43:53 P.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: What if you could get a pair of glasses that would double the distance of your vision? http://www.wired.com/news/technology/0,70181-0.html Jim oops, try this... I'd have to walk twice as far to get my plane when I land out...:) Bill Wingstedt RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Super Vision without bionics
In a message dated 02/09/2006 7:43:53 P.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: What if you could get a pair of glasses that would double the distance of your vision?http://www.wired.com/news/technology/0,70181-0.htmlJim I'd have to walk twice as far to get my plane when I landed out...:-)
Re: [RCSE] casting lead
In a message dated 01/23/2006 8:05:09 AM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I want to cast some lead for ballast into a shape resembling a stick of butter. I have the lead and a torch that puts out enough heat to melt the lead but I don't have a ladle nor a mold. I prefer not to spend much (if any) money for these items as it will be a one time project. Does anyone know what I can use to melt lead in and how to construct a one time mold (cheaply)?Robert Samuels ... St. Louis I made some lead "coins" for nose weight just by boring some 1 inch diameter holes into a wooden 2 x 4. The wood ended up being scorched by the torch but it contained the lead in the desired shape. It seems like your shape is simple enough that wood might work for it, if the wood blocks comprising the mold are big enough to resist igniting (or big enough not to mind having parts of their surface momentarily go up in flames before you smother them) as you focus the torch on the lead. You might want to slope the sides somewhat to facilitate removal of the lead, or you could just hack away the wood for a one time shot. I did my work on the garage floor with the door open. No laundry, towels in the current rotation or my wife's wedding dress were used to have on hand for flame smothering duty :) Bill Wingstedt
Re: [RCSE] LSF US Soaring Masters sponsored by Horizon Hobby and JR Radio
Has anybody considered the scores in this event being part of the OVSS series? The venue and the format seem to be consistent with the other contests in the series...Just wondering because it seems a perfect way to post another score in the series. Bill Wingstedt
Re: [RCSE] Any early Christmas gifts?
In a message dated 12/20/2005 7:28:35 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: So, who's opened their gifts early? Or know what's coming?Time to brag! Who's getting what?I got a Breville espresso machine and a new 36" vinyl plotter cutter for my airbrushing business. Anyone want a funky paint job? It's better now that I won't have to cut masking film right on the wing/fuse. Dan Well, my daughter offered that she wanted a treadmill. She has a gym membership, but going to school full time & working leaves her no time. I noticed my wife looking at some cheap ones and suggested that maybe if we all use it, we should get a good one. So this thing comes, 331 lbs. It was a workout getting it to where it belongs. I've set it up and have used it twice, so I'm charting this in the "Opened" column. Anyway, It's good chute retrieval training. It's another way of introducing some youth to the sport. We could even add that to the competition...Sure, relaunch all you want...better hurry and go get the chute! Seriously, I'm looking forward to many more oppurtunities to soak up my share of UV with all of you fine folks Bill Wingstedt
Re: [RCSE] PLEEEEEEASE REEEEEAD! IT WAS ON GOOD MORNING AMERICATODAYSHOW...]]
In a message dated 11/18/2005 3:44:56 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: If this was a moderated forum like RCGroups, members could actually get banned for posting stuff like this. I can see why John Derstine unsubscribed to RCSE. Aloha to all on RCSE (except the OP) . Al Battad - AMA #506981 It struck me as rather odd that Mr. Derstine announced the withdrawal of his subscription. It then seemed even more strange that he turned up missing...I can't shake the thought that there might be some sort of a connection between the two events...hoping all is well... Bill Wingstedt RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Big Bird XL (build time ?)
In a message dated 09/14/2005 1:07:04 AM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi, Anyone have a idea (about) how long it takes to build one of these ? Dave Hauch Dave, Once upon a time I built a Bridi Big Birdie, I couldn't resist the ad for it with the the bikini clad lovely holding one...don't remember how long it took me, it was my second plane. Next project was an Aquila Grande', the ad was quite a let down, a mustachioed Skip Miller..., but I did tally my hours when I built it and they totaled up to 120 hours. I meticulously used aliphatic resin and slow cure epoxy on everything, I didn't "believe" in hot stuff for spars and wings back then. The little lady was on vacation and I was only working 8 hour days back then...I built that sucker right on the kitchen table! (no pickup or cleanup required!) Just thought I'd give you a data point for a built up plane, though it did sport a fiberglass fuse... Bill Wingstedt RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Thermal duration V or + tail
In a message dated 09/07/2005 7:41:01 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I've noticed that the Europeans seem to prefer the V tails but the Americans seem to prefer the plus tails for thermal duration. Why the difference? It's part of our evil nature to deprive the rest of planets inhabitants of all available tail surface resources by using 3 where only 2 are necessary. That, and we just like big tails. Bill Wingstedt
Re: [RCSE] "LSF4 Goal & Return?...Goal'd and Return'd!"
In a message dated 09/03/2005 2:46:38 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I had it in my head that I 'had' to get that goal and return out of the way to finish up LSF4, cuz it would be just my luck to luck into a LSF5 win somewhere along the way but not have LSF4 out of the way Gordy, that level 5 contest you're probably looking for might be right around the corner...the Fred Fredrickson...9-17&18-05...and YOU"RE INVITED! Come, and endure its long tasks. Bask in its glorious skeglessniciousness, further enhanced by a full spectrum of OVSS ramifications. Take long, moonlit barefoot walks to retrieve your outlandings (you're on your own there, buddy)...Coming to a Sod farm near...wellme. (Win not guaranteed, void where prohibited, may not be valid in all sectors) Congratulations! Bill Wingstedt RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
OT: Re: [RCSE] New Orleans
In October of 2001, Scientific American published a definitive article on the problems facing New Orleans. It basically predicted this would happen. You can read it at http://www.sciam.com. Click on "drowning New Orleans" Bill Wingstedt RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Re: Great Job guys
Congratulations! That you were able to perform at such a high level after being hit by the wave of coolness that must've been emanating from a teenager astride a scooter (mere mortals would swoon) is a testament to the power of geek... Bill Wingstedt __- In a message dated 08/11/2005 10:49:50 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Probably the best story from the WC comes from our first full day there, although not really connected with the flying aspects. We were on the way to the practice field, and stopped to pick up some food at a truck stop on the highway. On our way out, a teenager zips up to us on one of those scooter things. He took one look at us, and asked us (in english) "what are you guys doing here?" Gordon, in his typical rapier wit, answers "INVASION!" The kid, not at all intimidated, continues, "no really, why are you here?" We explain to him that we are here in Finland to compete at the world championships for radio controlled gliders. He doesn't bat an eye in replying, "Oh,... GEEKS!" Joe Team USA Geek member RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] NATS...
(intended as plain text...hope it comes through like that...) I only flew in F3J this year and it was a blast. I love the 2 day format. Once again, it was proved to me that you learn more from your bad flights than your good ones. Thanks to all who gave me a hand retrieving my toys. I was sitting pretty until the beans ate my plane...twice. Worst thing I probably did was save my round 6 flight from about 50 feet because it made me think I could do it again. .333 is a good batting average but in soaring it results in forays out into beanfields & corn. The first out landing was pretty tame. Ben Roberto go a line on it and Sheldon retrieves anything that falls from the sky, chutes, planes...you name it, he'll have somebody roll up to it with a golf cart and pick it up. The next out landing was a bit more challenging. Tom Broeski stepped right up and helped me with a ride to where we thought my plane was. What a hopeless feeling to get where you think you should be and be faced with the sound of corn growing ever taller. After standing on Tom's car for a while, it was pretty clear we'd need to do something more. Having heard that Daryl had flown in, I approached him with the idea of doing an overflight. He thought about the details of fueling up the plane and then readily agreed. We'd just have to wait until the comps were over as he was in the flyoffs. In the meantime I learned of several other planes the crops had eaten and as it happened, even Daryl's plane met it's fate. As soon as the flyoffs were over, we hopped in Sheldon's truck and drove up to Daryl's Lancair. After rearranging a few things and inserting ourselves, Daryl asked if anybody gets airsick and then warned us "It's gonna get hot in here, guys". He was right. It's about like getting into your car that's been sitting in the sun on a 90 degree day. Big deal, I've been hot before. We took off and headed over the field, our first pass revealed a yellow escape perched just about dead center in the corn and a red Icon laying upside down in the beans. Then we looked around for Daryl's Sharon and Phil Barnes plane. It seems they have been fully digested by the crops...Daryl asked how we were doing and I admitted to feeling a bit queasy. It seems that the heat, the headphones, the high bank turns, the vibration, the fluids I'd been drinking all day and the ribs I had the night before had all converged in a massive conspiracy to make me ralph. It was everything I could do to keep Daryl's plane clean. It was my proudest accomplishment, keeping the contents of my stomach where they belonged. After we landed, I stabilized over the next few minutes and all was well. I got my plane and informed a search party what we had seen. Having snagged my Icon, which was unscathed, I thought about meeting Rich and Karl for dinner, but the siren call of home beckoned and I thought my best interests would be served by heading in that direction. Well, this has gone on long enough, thanks to all for a great NATS experience... Bill Wingstedt RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] 14MZ - A lot of reinvention of the wheel
In a message dated 5/27/2005 6:07:28 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It is hardly the case that other companies are playing catch-up with Futaba. Instead, it’s more the case that Futaba is now starting to play catch-up with Multiplex. _ I seem to remember back when Karlton frequented the list that he made mention of Futaba having liccensed their software from Multiplex...don't know if that's still the case...but it would cast an interesting light on the matter... Bill Wingstedt RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Hobbico Frequency Checker will be....
In a message dated 04/07/2005 9:02:13 AM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On every single frequency board, a simple bit of velcro and anyone walking up to get a pin or put their card in a slot will be able to see what's hot and what's not. No more fake representations of which freqs are active. You'll walk up and see which of all 50 freqs are modulat'n. At $50 each I suspect every RC modeler in the USA will own their own too. Module knobs be damned :-) A sign could be posted at the entrance to all Frequency Checker equipped fields that say's, "This field controlled by Cylon Technology". Gordy I'm hoping the Cylons will provide something that not only scans the field, but sorts the frequencies and switches your tranny and receiver to what is available. If they are all being used, it will disable your transmitter and not allow it to be turned on. All knob twiddling will be completely transparent. If they can't at least do that, then I say we turn up the Slim Whitman and melt their heads like in Mars Attacks... Bill Wingstedt
Re: [RCSE] Crank it up!
In a message dated 03/22/2005 11:28:54 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I think I found the new accessory for the field beverage sphere!http://www.lehmans.com/shopping/product/detailmain.jsp?itemID=1670&itemType=PRODUCT&iMainCat=701&iSubCat=702&iProductID=1670It would be a good way to keep Stumper busy after hours at the Nats... Kewl! Looks like a good way to "wind things up". With a suitable mod, you could probably reel in your F3J lines with it... Bill Wingstedt
Re: [RCSE] Better than sims...
In a message dated 03/15/2005 8:03:32 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: LOL. Trick requests?How about tie incense cones on it and make some smoke. Just don't crash into the wall and burn your place down. Whoa... there is a video that would never make it to the net. :-)(Easter is close, safer than swinging the golden pot?)SteveAt 12:10 PM 3/14/2005, Mike Smith wrote:>I think to make it really interesting, you should fire up the ceiling >fan. At least on low ;^)>>Mike Here's my request. Add a camera and GPS navigation capability so it can fly autonomously to specified coordinates and beam back live photos. That would beat having to rely on 2 year old Terraserver photos when I want to do a little job inspection. I'm sure that Homeland Security would have no problems signing off on it...:) Bill Wingstedt
Re: [RCSE] Looks like JT Plane Pack Bags are back in the game
In a message dated 11/29/2004 7:08:31 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Perfect bags for Pikes, Icons, Extremes, any of the current 3piece wing ships. Not sure about Sharon's big center panel. Over all length is 60" I think. Sharon center panel is the best part of 65 inches, just about the same as the length of the Icon fuse... WW
[RCSE] Turkey Shoot
I had a request to send the rules for the Turkey Shoot that will be held on Sunday and thought it best to broadcast them for all to peruse and decide what they may want to fly. The question came up regarding an AVA or similar and what type of construction it is considered to be. Unless I hear a persuasive argument to the contrary, I can't see that it's anything other than built up. It's not a bagged composite, nor is it molded. Good luck to those that play the factors to their advantage. My latest check on the weather says upper 50's with winds out of the Northwest @ 10-15 so it looks like we may get this thing off the ground. Here's the rules... SOAR TURKEY SHOOT 2004 The contest will be 3 rounds with an optional 4th round. Task times to be determined by using the handicap system below with a spot landing for 100 point bonus. Your score will be normalized to the perfect score for your task. There is a handicap applied to round 2 that is determined bythe type of equipment being flown and in round three by theskill level of the pilot. You will determine the handicap factor thatis applicable to your situation and fly the appropriate time for theround. The 100 pt. bonus for the landing will be determined by taking2 times the distance (measured in decimals of a foot with the tapes provided) off the spot from 100 (100-2d) for the 1st round and for rounds 2 and 3 it will be 100-2df where f is your handicap factor for that round. There will be no negative landing bonuses. (Measure the distance, if the tape says 3.2 feet, that's 32, multiply that by 2 and multiply the result by your handicap factor. Then subtract that from 100. That's your landing score.)N.B. see special âskeglessâ exception on score sheetâ Round 1Everybody fly 6 minutes For round 2, f is equal to 1 + all of the equipment factors applicable to your plane, as figured from the following: Class-.4 HLG hand launched-.2 1.5 - 2M (59.05 - 78.74 inches)0 >2M - 3M (78.74 - 118.11 inches)+.2 >3M (118.11 inches) Construction-.2 Built up sticks0 Wood Sheeted Foam+.2 Bagged composite+.4 Molded Control surfaces-.2 2 function0 3 function+.2 Full house (> 3 function) Thus a composite Phasor 2M would have a factor of (1 -.2+.2+.2)= 1.2and an Esprit or Stork of (1 +.2 +.4 +.2) or 1.8. For flight times of 7.2and 10.8 minutes respectively. (0.10 minutes = 6 seconds) For round 3, to the f determined for round 2 add the following factorsfor pilots skill, use only the single highest level applicable. Skill Level-.3 for no contest flying0 SOAR contests+.3 Out of state competition+.5 National Championships+.8 International contest or Visaliain addition add:+.8 for winning a National Championship+ 1.5 for winning a World Championship
[RCSE] SOAR Turkey Shoot
S.O.A.R. will be having its Turkey Shoot on Sunday, November 7. For those of you reading this that feel the need for just one more contest to wrap up the season, this could be just what you're looking for. We are currently flying at Route 126 and Grove Road, South of Oswego, Illinois and West of Rte 59. We've got the order in for good weather and we've made a special request that it be nationwide so Daryl can flit around and pick up as many pilots as he can cram in that plane of his and ferry them to the contest. Maybe he could borrow one of those airliners they have mothballed out in the desert there,... I mean, really, they're just sitting there, might as well put them to good use. I suppose some of the OVSS'ers could probably drive as well, 'cause by the time Daryl gets down to pick Gordy up and then snags all those East coasters, there probably won't be enough time for him to swing by and pick you up too. Anyway, this will be the legendary format devised by Don Smith in which the task time is derived for each pilot based on several factors such as plane size, construction and the pilots competition level. There are always a few surprising results and some memorable flights. Last year I seem to remember the final round coming down to a Clash of the Titans, When Rich and Jim each had to fly some completely ridiculous long tasks in weather that might easily lead one to stay inside. What the heck, it's soaring, so you know it'll be fun. Hope to see you all there. Bill Wingstedt RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
Re: [RCSE] R and R, not RnR
Feeling nostalgic about what was in the air when you were a Level I, eh:) Bill Wingstedt In a message dated 10/05/2004 9:08:57 AM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I looked at the site too !! I Think they would work at Brookville.. I am Tempted...the prices are right !! Jack --Jack Strother Granger, IN LSF 2948 LSF Level V #117 LSF Official 1996 - 2004 CSS Gold -- Original message -- > Wow, I want to get one of those Pterosaurs to fly at Cumberland! Or do > combat against Gordy! (Pterosoar vs Gordysoar)! Sounds like a bad > Japanese sci fi movie. > Tom H. Nagel > Columbus, OH
[RCSE] Long and stiff...
Glider wings! That's how we like 'em! What else?... Skis! I see that "they" are able to dampen vibrations, effectively stiffening skis by using the piezoelectric effect. Just wondering if there is any application for us here, what the energy costs/benefit ratio would be... Bill Wingstedt RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
Re: [RCSE] Contests, Landings, etc.
Anybody a free flighter in here and know anything about the Super Max? I have a faint memory of reading an article about it the AMA magazine. Something to do with overflying the max time and trying to reach a "super max" in the first round (light morning air, etc.). If you don't reach the super max, there is a penalty. If you do, it can be used as a tie breaker...or something along those lines. Might be adaptable to our RC contests. Anybody familiar with this that can set me straight? Bill Wingstedt
Re: [RCSE] Central Illinois slope?
In a message dated 07/22/2004 11:20:07 AM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Ahh yes, creating your own slope is the usual dream of someone infected withthe slope bug but without a slope. Well, here's some advice to any in thisposition.For 99.99% of folks; a bad slope would be hard to create. A decent slopeimpossible. A good slope ridiculously impossible.To do it you'd need: a Cat D10 or better, lots of time and diesel, alongwith the land, fill dirt and the skill to do it. Yep, it's pretty sad. ...or maybe have one of those companies that make inflatable King Kongs for auto dealerships make linkable squares that could form a slope...tether them in place during the event and then take 'em down and store 'em till next year... Bill Wingstedt
Re: [RCSE] Major change for NATS F3J..reply
In a message dated 12/23/2002 10:37:10 AM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Bill, The form has a typo on it...it has been addressed on the LSF site and on RCSE... Thanks Jack. I must've missed the information having been posted here, which exposes my failure of having read everything that's made available to me. I'll get my entry in pronto! I just got my entry forms on Saturday and when I saw that "only 1 entry per frequency" I panicked and broke the glass on the "post to RCSE" alarm. I'm relieved to hear the frequencies will be alloted as they have in the past. Thanks! Bill Wingstedt
[RCSE] De-motify the competition
...yeah, it might be a little off topic, but there is a nice picture of an eagle on their "calendar\leaders" page. Also, nice use of an updraft on the "calendar\change" page. Have fun! WWW.despair.com Bill Wingstedt RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
Re: [RCSE] Just a Flying Contest
In a message dated Mon, 12 Aug 2002 11:40:36 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > --- "James V. Bacus" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Just a flying contest... I think about this quite a bit.> > > When electronic loggers and telemetry become readily affordable, > > (which we > > are on the threshold of now), maybe there could be a format that > > emphasized > > flying alone with each contestant having a logging device onboard. > > I'll bet that some form of Jim's idea becomes the contest of the > future. For the price of a winch/retriever, a club can buy a few ALTis > or LoLos. Maybe soon there'll be a micro-GPS unit (I have a Garmin > Vista, which is cool, but it's not practical for this use). That would > open up even more possibilities. > > Anyway, it's obvious that the present F3J format, for example, will > have to be changed. Planes are on the towline for 5 seconds, they max > whatever time is required, and then get 95 or 100 landing points. The > field is bunched so that the 5th place flyer has 99.7% of the winner's > score. The WC may well be decided by a slow or quick punch of a timer's > button. > > Fiddling with target times, relative importance of landings, and launch > mechanisms won't change the fundamental issue. Adding speed, as Daryl > slyly suggests, would turn F3J into F3B. Jim's suggestion is, in my > mind, the one that could promise to spread out the field, clearly > identifying superior flying. Let's probe the muddy bottom of this crystal clear vision. Who is the superior pilot? The guy laying down tickling the bottoms of the clouds for 10 minutes, or the guy dancing on the treetops for 10 minutes? > > So what's the task? A pure calculation of cumulative altitude gained > creates a need for energy compensation, which complicates matters quite > a bit. How about this: a 10-minute task, with points for duration and > additional points for the maximum altitude gained during any 180 > seconds during the flight. > How about this, additional points for the least altitude gained for a max flight? > Altitude gained over any 3-minute window would be less subject to > fiddling. If you found strong lift, you could dive, zoom back up, then > circle and climb. Sure, an uncompensated vario would credit you with > the zoom. But only the first one would count, since your gain would be > from the bottom of that dive to the window's end 3 minutes later. And > there would be lots of tactical decision-making involved in such a > task. Think about the many dilemmas that would face the pilot -- it's > quite interesting! > > Anyway, we need good new ideas for a contest format. Cool techno > gimmicks are present everywhere in this sport -- why have our > championships determined by a thumb-operated stop watch, > and a ruler? Don't mind me, I'm a little giddy from qualifying for F3B (actually, not a bad contest format, though a little labor intensive, and a fair measure of piloting skills to boot, with plenty of opportunities to "spread" your score) with my first 4 flights on Saturday. I had to relaunch in distance... Bill Wingstedt RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] Full House Setup for Newbie..
In a message dated 02/13/2002 10:01:06 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > ust getting into my first fullhouse glider. I would desire info on > building (how to glue in those long pushrods..), servo installation on > obechi and composite ships, and how to set up flaps ,ailerons etc. > I know how to program the radio, but how to use the surfaces, coupling and > CROW during setup and flight > > Is there any book or websites or other sources of info??? > > Thanks in advance! > > Robert > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Here's a link you can get lost in, compiled by our intrepid list boss: http://dmoz.org/Recreation/Aviation/Model_Aviation/Radio_Controlled/Soaring/ Have fun! Bill Wingstedt RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] Frequency Control / safety
In a message dated 01/30/2002 10:38:18 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > Get off it Jim. This is an equal opportunity sport (or hobby,depending > on who you listen to.) Flying an overpriced ARF does not give you any > priority over those who build our own simple DLGs. > > >The channel block is not available in the US.. > >I think we should all have a unique ID in our tx and a way to set the ID in > the rx with microswitches or programming. The only way to escape all the > newbies and throw away RTF's is to have this coded system on a separate freq. > band, and priced in the league for the guys flying expensive toys, like > helicopters, jets, IMAC, and our silly little molded gliders > >Jim I think Jim's idea has merit. You pay a premium for the protection of your stuff. In an ideal scenario, the cost of it would not limit the newbie's access or force anybody to use it. It would simply be available at a price. I don't know the technical limitations, but they should be challenges, not obstacles. Just think, though. Removing the "I've been hit!" dodge from the arsenal of excuses might be kinda like wearing the emperor's (not you Karlton!) invisible robe. Bill Wingstedt RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] Fusion from NSP/quote OTW
In a message dated 01/28/2002 9:36:58 AM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > I thought it would be this one: > "I'm going to make it easier to fly. The planform may be a bit > aggressive for most of you." > > Dieter Headlines of the week of Arizona Contest: Aggressive Planform Holds most of Contest Attendees Hostage An aggressive planform, armed with a German transmitter held police at bay when it threatened entrants in a sailplane contest last week. Sources close to the event said that police are trying to contact a shadowy character known only as "DP" who is suspected of having sent the device to the event. He is said to be one of only a handful of people known to be able to control the planform. He is said to reside somewhere in California. Bill Wingstedt RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: re :[RCSE] How long is yours?
In a message dated 01/04/2002 7:50:34 AM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > I only have TD planes so my times are different. With a strong Rahm winch > on parallel 12v batteries and hitting the launch just right I get 14:20 > just tooling around the field. > > Rick > > > At 08:09 AM 1/4/02 -0500, Michael Lachowski wrote: > >My reference point is with a know quantity for winch, etc. I use F3b > winches, > >launch in very light winds. Some of my F3b models are good for 9:40. Those are some pretty good minimum sink rates! It seems like any time I launch off a winch and get 10 minutes, I accidently flew through some air that was at least a little buoyant. But then again, I suck! Bill Wingstedt RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] Wassailplane
In a message dated 12/26/2001 8:38:45 AM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > Rew and I wanted to fly the > little Lite Stick that Paul Wiese had sold us. Tom, Nice angle on being sold a plane instead of buying one. Very passive. Become a victim, I like that, and will be adopting that position in all future plane transactions! At least in their description to the little lady. Of course, when the discussion at the flying field turns to what a brilliant acquisition I have made, I'll switch to having bought it. :) Bill Wingstedt RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] Team Afghanistan?
I see that some favorite pastimes are things that fly, pigeons and kites. It'd be cool to get some planes into their hands over there. There looks to be some cherry slope sites too! I'm hopeful that things can get to the point where people can enjoy themselves over there... Bill Wingstedt RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] Nat's Coverage?
In a message dated 11/01/2001 4:38:16 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > Bob constrained me to 2000 words for soaring coverage. > I had enough facts to write 5000 if he would let me. > > As for choice of what soaring events got more words, > there is obviously personal bias in what I think > is newsworthy (Sorry Jim B). Point taken though, > one vote for more unlimited next year. :-) Mike, I thought you did a great job given the constraints you had to work with. I guess you could use some of the trimmings from the NATS issue as seed material for regular columns. The amount of space they allow really only gives a slight glance at an event that fills a whole week. Heck, we're crazy enough that we could fill two weeks with soaring. That'd be a challenge to squash into 2000 words. All in all, I guess you had to be there, guys :) Plan on it next year! Bill Wingstedt RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] Resolution of the P-38 issue
In a message dated 10/27/2001 11:00:43 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > Not to mention the fact that Boeing's plane looked like a flying wood > chipper. That was the beauty of the Boeing design. In peacetime, this thing could set down in your neighborhood, chip all those unsightly piles of tree trimmings, precisely distribute them where desired in your garden beds, and then take off. Much more practical than a Top Gun movie, dontcha think? Bill Wingstedt RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] Name of a used plane
In a message dated 10/19/2001 3:46:01 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > I have just picked up a used plane from a club member, he _thinks_ it is > called a Saturn. The span is 112 inches, it is configured for full house, > and has a v-tail on a glass fuse. Anyone have any info on a "Saturn" fitting > this description? The only one I found so far was an HLG. > > TIA. > > > Tom Koszuta > Buffalo, NY There used to be a Saturn. It had a T-tail and 113" span with an HQ 2.0/9-2.0/8 airfoil. Could be the V was a designer or a custom job. Bill Wingstedt RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] one of those days
In a message dated 09/16/2001 7:38:25 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > What LSF level are you > again, Mr. Wingstedt? 8-) LSF? What's that? Oh yeah...well...um...ahem...I... uh... *cough* think I'm level (hand covering mouth) -V. It comes on plain brown paper... Mr. Wingstedt RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] Interesting F3J stats
In a message dated 09/16/2001 7:04:26 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > Just reading the SOAR club newsletter, at the F3J team selections this year > there were 650 flights flown with only 6 reflights! > > I can tell you most of those flights were maxed. > > > Jim Jim, I haven't received my newsletter yet, but in my conversation with Don today, I thought he specified that there were only 6 reflights due to administrative circumstances. That works out to 0.9 percent, which is pretty good if you ask me! I know I had a reflight granted after my first flight when I had a plane/line allision (somebody flew their line into my plane, rather than a collision where we flew our lines and planes into each other :) It spun me out of my launch trajectory and I got half a launch. I was graciously awarded a reflight by Phil. Also, I just want to thank Phil again for a great job, and also everybody who helped pull off the contest, including the Crystal Lake Park District for granting us the use of their facility. Bill Wingstedt RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] Need Help
In a message dated 09/14/2001 4:46:33 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > HI guys, >Been trying for 4-5 days now to unsubscribe. Mikel tells me to shut off > HTML, till he told me that, didn't know I was doing it. I have to apologize > > to all for this, for putting you through it. I was able to shut it off in > Outlook, now does anyone know how to do it in AOL? Also, for the > what > is the correct name? > TIA > >Jerry Miller >SOSS-Medford, OR Jerry, unfortunately, AOL did not make HTML a configurable option in their 6.0 update. That's why I downshifted to 5.0. You can, however, go to AOL.com and read and write your E-mail from there, where it is sent as plain text. Maybe their next update will add an HTML ON/OFF knob. Bill Wingstedt RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] Different Subject??
In a message dated 09/13/2001 6:42:57 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > Charles Miller wrote: > > > > We could talk about how the F3J team selection was run? > Yes, any suggestions on improving the FAI team selection programs are > always welcome. We still have some room for putting together a better > team... until we finish 1,2,3 at the worlds. > > > 8<---snip > > > > > Haveing a good flight without a official timer made into a reflight? > It always helps to have your own "unofficial" timer. Usually the CD > will accept that if there is a problem with the official time. We > really ought to have two official timers for each pilot, but where would > you find them all? After we get two official timers for every pilot we can then work on having a field large enough so that every team has an exclusive 200 meter circle to operate in...(or maybe a giant turntable to set the field into the wind) I would propose that we have turn signals on our planes to signal lane changes, but I'm guessing nobody would use them... 8<-snip > > Hey, no one is bitching about the voice on the official clockMaark Now that you mention it, how about a count down to the start of prep time? And while I'm at it, a word of caution to nobody in particular. Remember, only one helper within 15 meters of the landing spot. I know that the towers can come up and help spot and call, but when the move is made to the landing spot, only one helper can go along! Bill Wingstedt I only sucked for 5 flights! The other 8 were pretty good! And, I was nailing landings! I'll be back too! RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] Bozo Bytes the bullet.
In a message dated 09/13/2001 4:37:49 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > Which 10%? That would mean the terrorists would have been allowed weapons > also. > I would rather relinquish my pocket knife than have any weapons on the plane. > Kick 'em in the balls. If the passengers would have known what we know now, > they would have rushed them all together - can't rush an automatic weapon > that easily. > > T > > Phil wrote: > > > Gun control? > > What if only 10 % of the folks on those doomed flights were packin heat? > > We just need to retrain the terrorists in the proper use of guns. The long, pointy end goes in your mouth, and then you work that lever, trigger thingy with your toe... Bill Wingstedt RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] F3J Team Selection Report, Practice Day 1
In a message dated 08/30/2001 10:37:59 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > A bit of bad news, the airline lost all of Daryl's models coming back from > Europe and I don't think he will be competing. > > I'll try to update as I have time... > > Jim My guess? International conspiracy. I did a bit of research, the baggage handlers were replaced at the last minute by what turned out to be a husband and wife team, Nadia Veri and Bjorn Almos Goodenov. Besides all the favorite books, moonlit walks on on the beach and all the usual blah blah, their profile turned up one very interesting item. Hobbies: Radio Controlled Soaring! They also each indicated their aspirations to represent the Motherland at the next WC's! Go figure... Bill Wingstedt RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Fwd: [RCSE] off topic - interesting aircraft photo]
In a message dated 08/03/2001 12:41:08 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > From: Clifford Schwinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > I've seen this phenomenon with supersonic jets, but this is the first > > time I have seen this occur with a single engine prop plane: > > > > http://www.ssa.org/PhotoGallery/219.jpg > > *laugh* Good picture, but a fake. The color saturation of the > plane compared to the sky and cloud give it away. > > -- > Andrew E. Mileski > Ottawa, Canada What convinced me it's real is when I ran the image through a special 3d image rectifier, looked reeely close and peeked into the cockpit, I saw the pilot was wearing clogs. All things are possible when you wear clogs. Bill Wingstedt RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] FVK K-2
In a message dated 07/20/2001 8:55:11 AM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > Can someone point me to a website for a dealer that sells this plane? It is > listed on Fatlion's site but the link goes to a netmeister page that says > that this site is not on their server. > > Thanks, > > Joe Gullett > Spring Hill, Tennessee ChicagoSky1.com might be a good bet, although Rich may be careening his caravan over to the nats even now... Bill Wingstedt RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] RCSD question
In a message dated 07/10/2001 11:05:36 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > Jeez, > > What's so hard about writing a check and dropping it in an envelope? Cost > 0.34 plus check. > The tough part is getting the checkbook out of the bosses purse without having to listen to a running tally of how much money you've spent on your hobby, feigning concern about the rest of the budget having gone to hell :) At least with a credit card, you can do the dirty deed, and then mysteriously take the little lady out for dinner "just because I love you" Bill Wingstedt RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] Flames and photos
In a message dated 07/08/2001 4:24:17 AM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > I think the suggestion that another list that would be formed where > people can and should share good (and infinitely valuable) info about > what we love be formed. Unfortunately, I believe that given the history > of what soaring is about, it would degrade to the same level as what we > are experiencing now (and in the past) on this list. I would love to be > proven wrong. I think it's inevitable that a list such as this would reach its present steady state of signal to noise. Consider a world where everybody was the expert equal to Joe and were only capable of posts that were as tasty as his. In that world, there would be no reason for a list because no one would need to read anything on it, they would already know everything. Alas, but in this world we have all sorts, from expert to novice and everything in between. The posts are similarly arrayed, and any attempt to control it would be futile and the list would be the less for it. I must admit, I don't read everything (and I might be saying this while I'm clanking around in the bottom of someone's killfile myself or cowering under their delete key), I read what I feel like reading and I felt like reading Joe's Icon post abut 4 times. :) Especially the part about Cl margins for launch since the Icon is a big plane like the one I'm flying. I stumbled into using less launch camber only to avoid fluttering the structure (the Icon has a big advantage in its stiffness) but find that I get plenty of tension on the line just because the wing is so large. I identified with that part of the post, maybe for the wrong reasons and I might be exposing what a big dummy I really am, but what the hell, I had fun flying today anyway and I'm too busy matching my readiness for the NATS with their imminent arrival to worry much about it. I say let it all through, in all of its unmoderated glory and I'll attenuate the signal on this end as I see fit. Bill Wingstedt RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] Re: Landing Points and Slip-On Nosecones
I suppose that you could just tape the SLIP-OFF nose cone on, but that would really seem to defeat the wonderful feature of slip-off-ability that was so thoughtfully designed right into it. (CD, inspecting a landing, "Well, well, well, what have we here?! The nose cone seems to be off! Contestant stammers back "um, well, I, uh, um don't know what happened, the damn thing just seemed to slip off! Please don't make it a zero! PLEASE!") I see the natural progression of things leading to a tethered, slip off nose cone, that can be driven independently to the 100 point spot after all necessary operations concerning contact with ground based objects are complete. Pick up the plane and the nose cone goes with it, by way of the tether. Only then can the true genius of slip-offedness be realized. Or, you could just use a piece of tape and arrange a landing right on the spot Bill Wingstedt RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] rule clarifications
In a message dated 06/18/2001 6:55:35 AM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > At 10:36 PM 6/17/01 -0400, you wrote: > > > If the plane hit the upper small leaves and twigs of a tree, but > continues > >to fly to the ground or landing circle, the time does not stop. << > > are the twigs/leaves not a ground based object? > > clock stops > > > take care, > > Stumper ...and the entire atmosphere is a ground based object. Clock stops! :) Bill Wingstedt RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] Make a Deal Day at NSP
In a message dated 05/30/2001 9:52:23 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > And for all my compadres beyond the Big L, remember: Today is the first > day…of the rest of this half century. ENJOY!! > > CD > ...and for those of us who are still looking forward to the Big L, remember: Today is the last day of your life...SO FAR! ENJOY! Bill Wingstedt RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] F3J new tow rules in a contest
In a message dated 05/30/2001 10:12:43 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > There was no more than 20 to 30 minutes of discussion needed in Chicago to > have a ruling made by the CD on our launch technique. BTW, this would not > have had to happen if the FAI/CIAM had changed the rules in a sensible > fashion, but they didn't. > > There are only a few F3J contests in the US each year, and we had to put > our technique to the current rule book right now, before Nats and the US > team selections, in the realm of a real contest, there is no other way to > do it. The way the rules are written now, even if they are written poorly, > allow us to launch the way we did, and I can and have made a very strong > case for it, and now it is on record as being accepted in a US > contest. There is no "spirit" of the rules, or "intent", just the > official rule book and the rules it provides. If we did something wrong, > some one will have to show us why with the rules from the current official > rule book. So far, no one has been able to do that. > > If people want to obey the "spirit" of F3J, then why don't you all protest > the rules to go back to 150m of braided line kite tows with open bay models > 2 and 3 channel models like the English had planned it to be. > > > Jim > Downers Grove, IL Hi Jim, Monday was fun, eh? :) To tell you the truth, I really didn't get a chance to watch how the towing went at your end of the field. I was either throwing or flying a plane for every flight group (I actually got pulled off my feet once, when the runners were kicked at 4 seconds. I was ready to throw at 1 and that last second pulled me over. I just managed to hang on and let go at the start of working time and the plane got off straight!) I did hear the clinking at the start of the day when you guys pounded the stakes in. That's when our team decided to go over and see what was happening. I kind of wish I hadn't, 'cause the time we spent talking about it probably cost us a round of flying when the last round ended at 3:20. Those lunch breaks are killers, though! BTW, fantastic lunches for all three days, especially when those Subs showed up on Saturday in the rain! It gave us the lift we needed to take down the field in the rain. Thanks Debbie, and everybody else who helped pull off this contest. We had lots of help from guys like Al Zolecki, Tom Tock, Steve Moskal, Don Smith and Stan Watson ( know I'm forgetting someone, sorry). Any way, we decided to endure your tow technique without protest, I guess that is a sort of acceptance. We wanted to fly as I'm sure you did! I did attend the team captains meeting and heard the CD's opinion on the matter, and respect the reasoning behind it, but since there was no formal protest, I don't know if that represents a ruling. Maybe our acquiescence set some sort of precedent, I don't know, but that leaves us in the unpleasant position of not really knowing anything more about its legality until the NATS or *gulp* Team Select, the stakes (ha ha) being raised incrementally. Are we playing chess or flying toy planes? I know Jimmy Mac stated he'd fly zero's all day in the interest of safety, so I didn't really appreciate him getting thouski's all day long! :) That 9 whatever in the 4th round was masterful. I'm not sure what the tow technique had to do with it, he could probably beat both of by hand launching that Artemis of his. Our team used pulley tows and direct to the plane tows and we seemed to get competitively high, with the added bonus that there was very little conversation about it:) . See ya at the Fred! Bill Wingstedt RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] DS'ing with no hill
In a message dated 05/16/2001 7:44:25 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > At 07:03 PM 5/16/2001, Brett Jaffee wrote: > >Scroll down near the bottom to check out the 3 videos of these guys DS'ing > >a stand of trees after winch launching from a flat field. > > Looked like a bungee launch but still way cool. Treelines and wind we do > have in Chicago, I am going to do this! 8-)) > > > Jim > Downers Grove, IL > Member of Chicago SOAR club Jim, who's plane are you going to use? I'd let you use one of mine, but I'm almost out, down to three or four or something... :) Bill Wingstedt RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] right turns?Left turns?
In a message dated 05/14/2001 8:52:36 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > When, as a kid, I roller skated, ran my "box scooter" or bicycled, I always > preferred to make left turns. Later, when flying full scale or R/C and when > driving a car, I still preferred to make left turns. Right turns seems > awkward and unnatural. I'm right-handed. I wonder if "lefties" prefer to > make right hand turns? Any out there to comment? > I'm ambidextrous in this way. I write left-handed, I throw right-handed, and can bat lefty or righty. I wonder if it's which hand you throw with that might determine the preference for turning? There's just something natural feeling about having the plane come over your right shoulder if you throw right handed. Something about the feeling that you could bring it around and catch it in your left hand. What do the left handed throwers say? Bill Wingstedt RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] Help finding long pushrods.
In a message dated 04/23/2001 7:51:15 AM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > Hello All, > > I am trying to rig my new Omega 3 F3J. The pushrods it came with from Sal > were not long enough, > 48" it needs 54". > > The brass plated SS. that Sal put in the box was nice stuff but too short. > Sal sent me some > un-plated SS but it seems too flexible and changes length with compression > and tension > and also doesn't fit in the pre-installed tubes at .062 dia. Where do I get > good .056 dia. > brass plated SS or any good material in .056 dia? Lots of people seem to > have 48" > length but what about longer. How good is carbon fiber and is it available > in .056 and 54" long. > > > Thanks! > Del Schier > K1UHF I just recently had this problem for a fuselage that needed long pushrods. I ended up splicing carbon rods together by using a short length of brass tube as a coupler, CA'ing and crimping the ends in place. I cut the plastic sleeve and determined how much movement was needed for the surface actuation and separated the resultant two pieces by that distance, plus a little for good measure. I then joined the sleeves together using a larger diameter tube which allowed the brass coupler to slide inside of it, and still have the pushrod supported through its entire length. If you arrange to keep these couplers forward of the CG rather that behind it, it'll be that much less weight you'll have to compensate for with nose weight. Bill Wingstedt RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] Flying today!
It's nice to see all the reports of flying from all over today as spring takes hold in the US. Sailplanes did grace the skies over Illinois today, as well. The planned SOAR contest was a casualty of the morning showers, and then there was a slight delay as our sod farm hosts groomed the field for us, but flying commenced around noon. We (three of us) started out by doing some winch launches. As the wind increased to about 15, Rich B. put on a show by launching his new Wind without using the pedal. He stretched the mono about 30 feet behind the winch and then threw the plane, hooked over 'til parallel to the ground, stretched the line, straightened out, gained altitude, circled, stretched (repeat three times) and then zoomed to full launch height without ever touching the pedal. Very impressive! Ben R. invited me to try it with my Sharon and I politely declined. :) Not to worry though, we managed to temporarily bend the Sharon into some weird shapes when Rich's son came out and teamed up with Ben to do some two man F3J tows. We tried both with and without the pulley. Lots of horsepower either way. Lots of stuff happens in a very short amount of time! Tons of information to process, considering the plane going up the line and hearing the real time report on what's happening at the other end of the line. Very exciting! I even managed to tip stall the Sharon. I was off the line, going downwind in a thermal, and I must've slowed up at just the wrong place in the circle, and one wing dropped. It spun once, then again and I just let go of the sticks, let it get flying and then pulled out. Luckily I was high enough that the several hundred foot drop still left me high enough to get home. Again, very exciting! I'm still amazed at how strong these long wings can be, especially when they're stopping and dragging two men, fully growed, around at the other end of the line. All planes were returned safely to their boxes at the end of the day, and I think I can face the work week more contentedly now. Bill RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] Jim Bacus
In a message dated 04/17/2001 1:33:56 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > I guess we all know what new toy Jim is getting :-)) > > --Greg Nuspel > Jim already has one of everything. This must be the plane he's donating for the good of the Order. :) Bill Wingstedt RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] Alpha4 (NiMh)
In a message dated 04/12/2001 11:21:56 AM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > On another note, I'm just a little bugged that the Alpha-4 > producers don't step up their production a little bit to try > to accomodate the demand they've helped fuel for their product. > Or give out schematics or something, or help another business > get going to help meet the demand. The great thing about that is, if you think you can do better, you're free to do so! If you can't join 'em, beat em! Then when you have more business than you know what to do with, you can give out schematics and help other businesses. :) Bill Wingstedt RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] extreme extreme extremely boring - oh yeah!
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Re: [RCSE] Lost in Space
In a message dated 03/07/2001 7:16:00 AM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > If you are receiving RCSE (soaring) through yahoo, it is easy. Just go to > 'Delivery Options' and change to 'No email'. (You can change back later.) > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/soaring Regis > > -Original Message- > From: Simon Van Leeuwen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2001 1:28 PM > To: 3-Soaring Forum > Subject: [RCSE] Lost in Space > > > Can someone explain to me how without unsubscribing, I can send a > message to the RCSE forum and not receive it back, or any messages from > you all for the last 8-10 days? Thanks. > > > *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* > Simon Van Leeuwen, Calgary, Alberta >RADIUS SYSTEMS > Cogito-Ergo-Zoom >IAC25233*MAAC12835*IMAC1756*LSF5953*IMAA20209 > *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* I think somebody is intercepting and destroying messages :~) My reception has been intermittent. For instance, I did not receive the original message in this thread, only the reply. It's been going on for several weeks. There is some resident wisdom that says everything is AOL's fault (I've got my training wheels set as high off the pavement as they go) but the problem seems to span all ISP's. Sunspots? Clinton? George W? AOL-Time Warner merger? Hackers? Carbon tailbooms? The Anti-Manti coalition? What is the source of our vexation?! Bill Wingstedt RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] Rule 10.1.e
In a message dated 02/17/2001 11:22:42 AM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > A quick search failed to come up with my AMA handbook - it's here somewhere, > but I assume 10.1.e is an AMA rule. I'm curious as to the background of > this > rule. If I was a winchmaster I'd never launch a contestant into a plane > that > was just flying along on the basis of what is essentially a "right of way" > rule. It seems to me that you don't have to launch, but with a sailplane > you > do have to come down. Wouldn't it make more sense to give precedence to the > > flying or landing plane rather than the launching plane? > > Do I have to put on my flame suit over this innocuous question? > The way I learned it, the right of way is something to be yielded rather than taken, so I'd agree with you there. I thought it a little strange for the launching plane to have priority as well, but consider that it may be easier to check for a launching plane since it occurs from a generally fixed location in the case of a winch launch. The launching plane would have a tougher time assessing the risk presented by a plane in the air, since it could be anywhere. Bill Wingstedt RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] incidence/pivot pins
I just went through this thought process on a recent plane that came with carbon tail pins. Though light, they won't take the abuse that steel will. The stabilator is probably the most important flight control and a concession made to the weight gods is probably a good idea here. It has happened that in the heat of the battle, a plane was smacked in for a million point landing, and it wasn't until the subsequent launch that the broken stab pin was discovered. Big splat ensues. Another advantage to metal pins is that they can be kinked, which makes stab retention possible without glue or set screws. Anyway, I did have the right diameter music wire for the pivot pin to replace the carbon, but not for the rear drive pin. I found some laying around that was too thin, so I had to bring it up to spec by sheathing it in a brass tube. I thought "Hmmm, one could probably sheath carbon in a brass tube, save a little weight and gain a little durability. About the kinky stab retention, though, I don't know..." Bill Wingstedt In a message dated 02/11/2001 1:41:47 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > I'm thinking of replacing the steel incidence pin on > the main wing, along with pivot pin and incidence pin > on the stabalizer with carbon pins(NSP Edge). Does > anybody see any reason this would not be a good idea. > The large pivot pin in the tail was my main concern. > Its kind of heavy. > > Thank > > Erik Lotoszynski RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: RES Rules - was [RCSE] Nostalgia Help??
In a message dated 01/29/2001 7:29:49 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > Sure, anyone can build a model with a plywood D-box, awesome carbon > spars etc. etc and blow everyone to the weed with mega launches, but > why would you bother? You only ruin it for those who want to comply > with the spirit of the rules, and just prove that: > > 1. You are a flyer who wants to cheat their way to the top. > 2. You can't mix it with the big boys. > > Go and fly in Open class where you belong :-) > > Paul Ferguson > Adelaide, Australia > > P.S. This is aimed at nobody in particular, but many people in general. Damn! Now that I've got a RES plane with foam cores and carbon skins (which just so happens to be allowed by my reading of the rules) I come to find out that it is against the "spirit" of the rules. It seems to me that somebody has taken a pry bar to the rules and popped in this "spirit," leaving a lump that is indiscernible to me, in effect, bending the rules themselves. Now, about this broad cheater stripe that I've been painted with, does everybody in open class have one? It just does not come out in the wash, so I'm hoping it'll just blend in :~) At least in open class, since I can't mix it up with the big boys, I can provide a context of mediocrity in which others can excel. :) Bill Wingstedt RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] new hlg design idea?
In a message dated 01/22/2001 8:59:46 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > At 08:43 PM 1/22/2001, Clifford Schwinger wrote: > >Here is a photo of the folding wing glider: > > > >http://members.home.net/cliff/fold3.jpg > > > >cliff > > I can't help from noticing the UFO flying saucer in the sky behind > him! WOW scarey > > > Jim Whew! What a relief! I thought that was Inge's clog! (Something about that pose just begs for an inverted hand catch...) Bill Wingstedt RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] CA removal
In a message dated 01/18/2001 3:16:33 AM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > I got a small spot of CA on the bottom of a molded wing. Does anyone know > if acetone or CA debonder will remove it without messing up the finish? > > Brett I have used CA debonder for this very thing. Didn't mess up the finish in my case. Bill Wingstedt RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] Model building tools
Last night I used a piece of thread and some masking tape to check the alignment of the stab to the wing on my Style. Taped one end to the wing tip, pulled it taut and stuck a piece of tape to mark the length to the stab tip. Move it to the other tip and note the difference. A sliver of spruce shoved ahead of the stab pivot was all it took to move the stab tip half the difference in distance. A little CA to hold it and Voila! all aligned! It's amazing how simple some tools can be. Bill Wingstedt RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: When things get slow. was [RCSE] on-board data logger
In a message dated 01/03/2001 7:13:13 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > At 06:52 PM 1/3/2001, charles c wrote: > >Isn't this just the US TD contest format? > > No, last time I flew in one you had to fly for a predetermined task time, > not the fastest one down. > > Not that I haven't done informal last molded ship down buys the brews... 8-) > > > Jim > Downers Grove, IL Interesting proposal Jim. Adding the F3B speed task to the AMA TD format... Bill Wingstedt RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] TWhipper TWhiz
In a message dated 12/29/2000 2:32:02 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > Flew it across my living room a few times and then just had > to start modifications. > Mod 1 - made a dihedral wing with elliptical tips. > Mod 2 - made a T-tail with matching elliptical tips. > Mod 3 - replaced putty with a T-pin. > Now my Whipper Whiz looks like a mini-hotliner. > It flies about the same as the stock one, but looks much cooler. > Distance - all the way across the living room. > Time - until it hits the wall. I made a molded carbon Whipper Whiz with a removable 2 piece V-tail (for easy transport) and 5 piece polyhedral variable camber, pseudo-elliptical, pylon mounted, breakaway, water repellent, ozone friendly wing with the AG2001TA airfoil (AG stands for antigravity, TA for thermal attracting) outfitted with RES flaps and ailerons that were literally bristling with external RADS linkages (for easy access). It flew THROUGH the wall and disappeared. I KNEW I shouldn't have thrown away the molds, but I thought "who's gonna want one of these if they can get them right away? Besides, if I have to make new molds, I can charge more!". I'm going to stop the watch..now. The wife is none too happy about the hole in the wall. Bill Wingstedt RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] Carbon fiber manufacturing
In a message dated 12/25/2000 6:54:20 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > When we can get nanotubes, we will have the ultimate > reinforcing fiber. Really good graphite fiber has a modulus > (stiffness) of about 400 Mega Pascals with an elastic strain > to failure (stretch) of about 1%. Nanotubes are expected to > have a modulus of around 1.4 Tera Pascals and 15% elastic > strain to failure. We'll be making incredibly tough, stiff > 4 meter planes that weigh less than 30 oz. > > Bill > -- > Life is complex. It has both real and imaginary parts. > Wow! The article also includes a chart on the feasibility of various uses for nanotubes. Apparently, imbedding nantubes into a matrix gets the lowest feasibility rating, listed as "science fiction" :-( And the cost is ...let's see$1500 per gram...so 30 oz. of the stuff would cost $1,275,000. Perfect! Very high cost and a long wait! Put me down for 2 nanomoldies. :-) Bill Wingstedt > Bill Johns RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] Landings: "a complete waste of time"?
I can't help but notice how the view in the winter is "with today's super ships, everybody gets their time" and "the lift is all over the place!" and in the summer it's "DAMN! I launched into a sink cycle and got three minutes and then I blew my landing!" >%^) Bill Wingstedt RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] HTML test
In a message dated 12/17/2000 11:14:49 AM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > Sorry guys, I'm trying something out. We all know the legend of AOL 6.0 > sending email in HTML format. I have been using V5.0 to avoid that. I'm > sending this with version 6, but from WWW.AOL.COM. It's been rumored that > mail going from here is plain text. We shall see... > > Bill Wingstedt Me again..back on V5.0...It seemed to come through to me without any HTML gobbledygook...anybody else? RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] HTML test
Sorry guys, I'm trying something out. We all know the legend of AOL 6.0 sending email in HTML format. I have been using V5.0 to avoid that. I'm sending this with version 6, but from WWW.AOL.COM. It's been rumored that mail going from here is plain text. We shall see... Bill Wingstedt RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] AMA Proposed RES rulse
In a message dated 12/13/2000 7:34:56 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > b. Except in the case of tailless aircraft that have a portion of the > trailing edge of the wing serve as the elevator, the trailing edge of the > wing must remain fixed at all times. In the excepted case, where split > elevators are used, they may be driven by separate servos but both left and > right halves must at all times move in unison and deflect by the same amount > and in the same direction. I don't get it. You can fly a tailless craft provided that you only have pitch control? Bill Wingstedt RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] more garbage about garbage garbage
In a message dated 11/15/2000 2:25:04 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > Congratulations to all of you AOL version 6 users. Their new browser has, > according to Gordy, "a bit of a problem" causing the mail to be sent out > formatted in HTML which is intended only to be displayed on web pages and > thus generating the garbage within the forum which we all love. > > These are todays offenders. > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] This is coming to you from AOL version 5.0 (25 gig hard drives are pretty cool, you just leave all the old crap on there, just in case, I could back down to 4.0 if need be). Does it meet with your approval? I was totally unaware of my offense and beg your pardon. The bastards at AOL 6.0 have apparently chosen not to make plain text or HTML formatting of E-mail a configurable option, or at least I can't find the knob for it. I better filter the signal from AOL 6.0 before I run it through the suckiometer, lest I bend the needle. Bill Wingstedt RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] F4U CORSAIR ...WHY?
'Cause it looked BAD! Kinda like the droopy andedral tail on the Phantom. No reason other than to scare people. Then the revisionists dreamed up all this ground clearance hooha... Bill Wingstedt In a message dated 11/13/2000 6:32:35 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: GUYS: i have a question... what is the reason behind the design on the wing what does it do? thanks luis
Re: [RCSE] Parker trip website
In a message dated 10/23/2000 10:05:51 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > I really need to DS... I really really need to DS... REALLY need it, argh. > > > Nice page Bruce! > > Jim Looks like we're gonna have to send in the deprogrammers. It's a shame to see how a normal Midwesterner can so easily fall for the Hollywood special effect that is "Parker Mountain." Come to think of it, I've never seen footage of the '69 lunar landing and dynamic soaring at the SAME TIME! Coincidence? I think not! Bill Wingstedt RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] Amazing Animal Gliders
I'm reminded of spiders and their soaring abilities. In the summer our sod field is literally covered with spider silk. Their use of a light, strong fiber in soaring applications is further evidence of nature's penchant for imitating man. I'm not sure how well the aerodynamics would scale up, but not to worry, since even a creature such as man, with an inherently poor glide slope is capable of short, parabolic flights and with enough wind, anything will fly. I suspect there are those who would delight in throwing me off a cliff, if only to admire my ever steepening glide path. Bill Wingstedt In a message dated 10/23/2000 8:53:31 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > Thought this was cool and got no response on the list, so I thought I'd post > it one more time, just in case anyone needs inspiration for a new winter > sloper project! > > > National Geographic this month has an article dedicated to the surprising > number of species, all in the rainforests of Borneo, that have managed to > evolve gliding capacity. > RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] Parker Mtn LIVE!
In a message dated 10/17/2000 2:36:38 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > 20 to 25 mph winds at the moment, just finished a rowdy combat session > with Bruce and Breck, this simply rules. The glass is out now and its > time to DS! I cant believe how good this is, Im spoiled for life now. >Back to flying, more later. Live and wireless atop Parker. > > Jim Jim, it's been nice knowing you. :) I don't suppose you'll be longing for the glorious flatness of Illinois. Bill Wingstedt RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] Visalia 2000 - Team 'N Sink's most excellent adventure - PICTURES!
> http://members.home.com/skip.richards/ Great pics! I couldn't help but notice in 122.jpg that Inge's Norwegian Soaring Clogs are catching on out west Bill Wingstedt RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
