Re: Why did I pay support?? Why did I buy a suite ? I want my moneyback!
so that's where all your subscription money goes to: http://area.autodesk.com/products/features/extensionmaya cheers everybody :P On Sat, Aug 3, 2013 at 9:34 PM, Jason Stambollian jasonsta...@gmail.comwrote: To me the similarity in situations between Avid getting DS and AD getting SI strikes me as both astonishing and unsurprising at the same time. (like a paradox) (like huuge industry standard holding conglomerates, absorbing smaller perhaps intimidating and potentially gamechanging counterparts ) But after a decade+, DS is still (not so minimally) supported, (DS V11 Features http://www.avid.com/US/products/avid-ds/Features) while the few DS users (far fewer than SI) have been complaining about exposure and anticipating the end since Day 1 of the 'not so new anymore' regime. Not that could make it easier to consider getting stripped, assimilated and minimized as a good thing for any absorbed entity, and of course there is lots of room for SI to be far less un-prioritized without putting a dent, if not expand sacred revenue streams. But in the case of SI, it's not by chance that it can be this much supported by it's own userbase. General mutual support, but also SI users coming-up with things that are nothing short of full blown features.. From in-viewport motion path editing driving SRT curves, to easy yet advanced auto-rig creation tools, plus a constantly growing a-rray ;) of nifty tiny to quite elaborate ICE things that can do real things. This level of support is perhaps in reaction to any possible relative arrested development from upstairs, but not by chance because for instance, somehow 3DS will always remain 3DS until it would be superseded by something else. (without implying 3DS being at-all bad, having it's own strengths and niches) But even after several years and several new (some very good) features in these perhaps more mainstream solutions, to this day (in 2013), anyone having experienced xSI (without access to coding departments ) in the heat of all sorts of VFX production contexts, either tend to stick to it, or whish these other solutions were somehow more like it in a variety of (very much core) aspects, and that is highly unlikely to change until something relatively revolutionary comes along. (NOTE: no comment about how some solutions may have been made to me more common) As many of you here would surely agree, I think it mostly has to do with how it can *quite inherently* be as consistent, straightforward, predictable. how complexity is made simple, or the particular balance ratio of artist/technical wherewithal requirements to get things working, nice get things *done* while remaining just as friendly for those that can be more technically literate or inclined. Making the problem solving process of 3D not so much of a pain if not actually easy, if not actually fun while giving very good likelihoods of having your experiments, hunches, shots in the dark or whatever you happen to be cooking, be fruitful. (the everything working with everythingness) Like making what you had in mind, or making original or making otherwise cool more accessible, or like pushing the limit of what is actually possible within given time/resource limits. In any event, I think SI developers really weren't kidding when they called-it next-gen : ) and that AD might want to consider that a true-er SoftimaYa might be something that could more likely come out from scratch, as opposed to merely adding (yet) more on top (of something that may have been already well on the overcomplicated side for a considerable range of project scales, almost from the start). Nevertheless, saying that the bar is high for a new thing coming along would definatly be an understatement! Thanks Tip of the hat to you! : )
Re: Why did I pay support?? Why did I buy a suite ? I want my moneyback!
Same for max: http://area.autodesk.com/products/features/extension3dsmax Wait, wasn't there a 3rd 3D application among those? Am 08.08.2013 16:40, schrieb Vladimir Jankijevic: so that's where all your subscription money goes to: http://area.autodesk.com/products/features/extensionmaya cheers everybody :P On Sat, Aug 3, 2013 at 9:34 PM, Jason Stambollian jasonsta...@gmail.com mailto:jasonsta...@gmail.com wrote: To me the similarity in situations between Avid getting DS and AD getting SI strikes me as both astonishing and unsurprising at the same time. (like a paradox) (like huuge industry standard holding conglomerates, absorbing smaller perhaps intimidating and potentially gamechanging counterparts ) But after a decade+, DS is still (not so minimally) supported, (DS V11 Features http://www.avid.com/US/products/avid-ds/Features) while the few DS users (far fewer than SI) have been complaining about exposure and anticipating the end since Day 1 of the 'not so new anymore' regime. Not that could make it easier to consider getting stripped, assimilated and minimized as a good thing for any absorbed entity, and of course there is lots of room for SI to be far less un-prioritized without putting a dent, if not expand sacred revenue streams. But in the case of SI, it's not by chance that it can be this much supported by it's own userbase. General mutual support, but also SI users coming-up with things that are nothing short of full blown features.. From in-viewport motion path editing driving SRT curves, to easy yet advanced auto-rig creation tools, plus a constantly growing a-rray ;) of nifty tiny to quite elaborate ICE things that can do real things. This level of support is perhaps in reaction to any possible relative arrested development from upstairs, but not by chance because for instance, somehow 3DS will always remain 3DS until it would be superseded by something else. (without implying 3DS being at-all bad, having it's own strengths and niches) But even after several years and several new (some very good) features in these perhaps more mainstream solutions, to this day (in 2013), anyone having experienced xSI (without access to coding departments ) in the heat of all sorts of VFX production contexts, either tend to stick to it, or whish these other solutions were somehow more like it in a variety of (very much core) aspects, and that is highly unlikely to change until something relatively revolutionary comes along. (NOTE: no comment about how some solutions may have been made to me more common) As many of you here would surely agree, I think it mostly has to do with how it can *quite inherently* be as consistent, straightforward, predictable. how complexity is made simple, or the particular balance ratio of artist/technical wherewithal requirements to get things working, nice get things *done* while remaining just as friendly for those that can be more technically literate or inclined. Making the problem solving process of 3D not so much of a pain if not actually easy, if not actually fun while giving very good likelihoods of having your experiments, hunches, shots in the dark or whatever you happen to be cooking, be fruitful. (the everything working with everythingness) Like making what you had in mind, or making original or making otherwise cool more accessible, or like pushing the limit of what is actually possible within given time/resource limits. In any event, I think SI developers really weren't kidding when they called-it next-gen : ) and that AD might want to consider that a true-er SoftimaYa might be something that could more likely come out from scratch, as opposed to merely adding (yet) more on top (of something that may have been already well on the overcomplicated side for a considerable range of project scales, almost from the start). Nevertheless, saying that the bar is high for a new thing coming along would definatly be an understatement! Thanks Tip of the hat to you! : )
Re: Why did I pay support?? Why did I buy a suite ? I want my moneyback!
2013/8/8 Eugen Sares sof...@mail.sprit.org Wait, wasn't there a 3rd 3D application among those? Yes, this: http://area.autodesk.com/products/features/extensionmudbox :( Cheers Steffen -- PGP-ID(RSA): 0xD6E0CE93 Fingerprint: 879F 572C FEE4 9DE5 53A8 3C1C 22A9 C8DE D6E0 CE93
Convex Hull in ICE
Here is one for the technical guys out there. I'm currently having a play around with making a convex hull compound in ICE, and have been looking at the great Alok Gandhi blog as a guide ( http://alokgandhi.com/blog/2011/04/17/convex-hull-maths-can-be-fun/ ). How ever due to my lacking knowledge in ICE array manipulation, I'm having trouble putting it into practice. Has anyone had a play with this sort of stuff before? I image it's the kind of exercise that would prove useful for learning. Regards, Tim
Re: Convex Hull in ICE
I imagine you're looking for pure ICE approaches, but for what it's worth, Guillaume Laforge made a C++ ICE node for convex hulls and was kind enough to provide its sourcecode as well: http://frenchdog.wordpress.com/2012/01/05/happy-2012/ On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 10:57 AM, Tim Bolland tim_boll...@hotmail.co.ukwrote: Here is one for the technical guys out there. I'm currently having a play around with making a convex hull compound in ICE, and have been looking at the great Alok Gandhi blog as a guide ( http://alokgandhi.com/blog/** 2011/04/17/convex-hull-maths-**can-be-fun/http://alokgandhi.com/blog/2011/04/17/convex-hull-maths-can-be-fun/). How ever due to my lacking knowledge in ICE array manipulation, I'm having trouble putting it into practice. Has anyone had a play with this sort of stuff before? I image it's the kind of exercise that would prove useful for learning. Regards, Tim
Re: Convex Hull in ICE
Your right, for this I would be looking to create something like this in ICE. I had a look at Guillaume's plug-in and it works great for what I would like to achieve but my main aim here is to learn . In fact for the first step I would settle for making just a 2D convex hull like on Alok's blog. Cheers, Tim p.s After playing around with the Guillaume's convex hull topo compound I must say it's pretty awesome! On 08/08/2013 17:11, Alan Fregtman wrote: I imagine you're looking for pure ICE approaches, but for what it's worth, Guillaume Laforge made a C++ ICE node for convex hulls and was kind enough to provide its sourcecode as well: http://frenchdog.wordpress.com/2012/01/05/happy-2012/ On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 10:57 AM, Tim Bolland tim_boll...@hotmail.co.uk mailto:tim_boll...@hotmail.co.uk wrote: Here is one for the technical guys out there. I'm currently having a play around with making a convex hull compound in ICE, and have been looking at the great Alok Gandhi blog as a guide ( http://alokgandhi.com/blog/2011/04/17/convex-hull-maths-can-be-fun/ ). How ever due to my lacking knowledge in ICE array manipulation, I'm having trouble putting it into practice. Has anyone had a play with this sort of stuff before? I image it's the kind of exercise that would prove useful for learning. Regards, Tim
RE: Convex Hull in ICE
Just noticed - inside Calc Temp Topology, connect Max Nb Triangles to the Max Repeat of the While node. I must have been using the frame number to step through and debug as it added a polygon at a time. gray From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Grahame Fuller Sent: Thursday, August 08, 2013 11:52 AM To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: RE: Convex Hull in ICE Back when Softimage 2012 was in beta, I built a convex hull compound. The actual goal was to get familiar with ICE modeling, and it was a bit of failure since I only used two topo nodes and the rest was maths and logic. A while back I revisited the compound to refactor it, add comments, and generally make it presentable but I never finished. Anyway, I'm attaching what I made so far in case it's useful. It's also here: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/7703976/Gift%20Wrap%20No%20Coplanar.1.1.xsicompound As the name suggests, it doesn't handle coplanar points. I think that's going to need Delaunay triangulation to be fully bulletproof. gray From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.commailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Tim Bolland Sent: Thursday, August 08, 2013 11:38 AM To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.commailto:softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: Re: Convex Hull in ICE Your right, for this I would be looking to create something like this in ICE. I had a look at Guillaume's plug-in and it works great for what I would like to achieve but my main aim here is to learn . In fact for the first step I would settle for making just a 2D convex hull like on Alok's blog. Cheers, Tim p.s After playing around with the Guillaume's convex hull topo compound I must say it's pretty awesome! On 08/08/2013 17:11, Alan Fregtman wrote: I imagine you're looking for pure ICE approaches, but for what it's worth, Guillaume Laforge made a C++ ICE node for convex hulls and was kind enough to provide its sourcecode as well: http://frenchdog.wordpress.com/2012/01/05/happy-2012/ On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 10:57 AM, Tim Bolland tim_boll...@hotmail.co.ukmailto:tim_boll...@hotmail.co.uk wrote: Here is one for the technical guys out there. I'm currently having a play around with making a convex hull compound in ICE, and have been looking at the great Alok Gandhi blog as a guide ( http://alokgandhi.com/blog/2011/04/17/convex-hull-maths-can-be-fun/ ). How ever due to my lacking knowledge in ICE array manipulation, I'm having trouble putting it into practice. Has anyone had a play with this sort of stuff before? I image it's the kind of exercise that would prove useful for learning. Regards, Tim attachment: winmail.dat
Re: Why did I pay support?? Why did I buy a suite ? I want my moneyback!
I think I can shed light on where Autodesk is going, as far as Softimage is concerned. Go to Google and search for Autodesk Softimage. What is the first paid search result? This is the one that Autodesk marketing paid Google money to display. There is your answer. On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 10:51 AM, Steffen Dünner steffen.duen...@gmail.comwrote: 2013/8/8 Eugen Sares sof...@mail.sprit.org Wait, wasn't there a 3rd 3D application among those? Yes, this: http://area.autodesk.com/products/features/extensionmudbox :( Cheers Steffen -- PGP-ID(RSA): 0xD6E0CE93 Fingerprint: 879F 572C FEE4 9DE5 53A8 3C1C 22A9 C8DE D6E0 CE93 -- Best Regards, * Stephen P. Davidson** **(954) 552-7956 *sdavid...@3danimationmagic.com *Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic* - Arthur C. Clarke http://www.3danimationmagic.com
RE: Why did I pay support?? Why did I buy a suite ? I want my moneyback!
For those of us who dont seem to get the paid results could you copy and paste ? ;) From: Stephen Davidson [magic...@bellsouth.net] Sent: 08 August 2013 06:20 PM To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: Re: Why did I pay support?? Why did I buy a suite ? I want my moneyback! I think I can shed light on where Autodesk is going, as far as Softimage is concerned. Go to Google and search for Autodesk Softimage. What is the first paid search result? This is the one that Autodesk marketing paid Google money to display. There is your answer. On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 10:51 AM, Steffen Dünner steffen.duen...@gmail.commailto:steffen.duen...@gmail.com wrote: 2013/8/8 Eugen Sares sof...@mail.sprit.orgmailto:sof...@mail.sprit.org Wait, wasn't there a 3rd 3D application among those? Yes, this: http://area.autodesk.com/products/features/extensionmudbox :( Cheers Steffen -- PGP-ID(RSA): 0xD6E0CE93 Fingerprint: 879F 572C FEE4 9DE5 53A8 3C1C 22A9 C8DE D6E0 CE93 -- Best Regards, Stephen P. Davidson (954) 552-7956 sdavid...@3danimationmagic.com Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic - Arthur C. Clarke [http://www.3danimationmagic.com/3Danimation_magic_logo_sign.jpg]http://www.3danimationmagic.com table width=100% border=0 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0 style=width:100%; tr td align=left style=text-align:justify;font face=arial,sans-serif size=1 color=#99span style=font-size:11px;This communication is intended for the addressee only. It is confidential. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately and destroy the original message. You may not copy or disseminate this communication without the permission of the University. Only authorised signatories are competent to enter into agreements on behalf of the University and recipients are thus advised that the content of this message may not be legally binding on the University and may contain the personal views and opinions of the author, which are not necessarily the views and opinions of The University of the Witwatersrand, Johannesburg. All agreements between the University and outsiders are subject to South African Law unless the University agrees in writing to the contrary. /span/font/td /tr /table
Re: Why did I pay support?? Why did I buy a suite ? I want my moneyback!
Autodesk Softimage visual effects and 3D game development software enables artists to create stunning character animation and visual effects. Yes game development and they haven;t even try to make good connection to most popular game engines as well But they trying so hard to kill SI and it still doesn;t help says something how good actualy itis, after all updates given to Maya and still hard to push people from SI to it.. he On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 6:33 PM, Angus Davidson angus.david...@wits.ac.zawrote: For those of us who dont seem to get the paid results could you copy and paste ? ;) -- *From:* Stephen Davidson [magic...@bellsouth.net] *Sent:* 08 August 2013 06:20 PM *To:* softimage@listproc.autodesk.com *Subject:* Re: Why did I pay support?? Why did I buy a suite ? I want my moneyback! I think I can shed light on where Autodesk is going, as far as Softimage is concerned. Go to Google and search for Autodesk Softimage. What is the first paid search result? This is the one that Autodesk marketing paid Google money to display. There is your answer. On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 10:51 AM, Steffen Dünner steffen.duen...@gmail.com wrote: 2013/8/8 Eugen Sares sof...@mail.sprit.org Wait, wasn't there a 3rd 3D application among those? Yes, this: http://area.autodesk.com/products/features/extensionmudbox :( Cheers Steffen -- PGP-ID(RSA): 0xD6E0CE93 Fingerprint: 879F 572C FEE4 9DE5 53A8 3C1C 22A9 C8DE D6E0 CE93 -- Best Regards, * Stephen P. Davidson** **(954) 552-7956 *sdavid...@3danimationmagic.com *Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic* - Arthur C. Clarke http://www.3danimationmagic.com This communication is intended for the addressee only. It is confidential. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately and destroy the original message. You may not copy or disseminate this communication without the permission of the University. Only authorised signatories are competent to enter into agreements on behalf of the University and recipients are thus advised that the content of this message may not be legally binding on the University and may contain the personal views and opinions of the author, which are not necessarily the views and opinions of The University of the Witwatersrand, Johannesburg. All agreements between the University and outsiders are subject to South African Law unless the University agrees in writing to the contrary.
Re: Why did I pay support?? Why did I buy a suite ? I want my moneyback!
. Bleh: Ad related to *Autodesk Softimage* 1. *Autodesk*® Maya® 2014 - *Autodesk*.comhttp://www.autodesk.com/Maya www.*autodesk*.com/Maya https://www.google.com/# - - Try The New, Upgraded Version Of Maya®. Download A Free Trial Today! 2. On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 11:33 AM, Angus Davidson angus.david...@wits.ac.zawrote: For those of us who dont seem to get the paid results could you copy and paste ? ;) -- *From:* Stephen Davidson [magic...@bellsouth.net] *Sent:* 08 August 2013 06:20 PM *To:* softimage@listproc.autodesk.com *Subject:* Re: Why did I pay support?? Why did I buy a suite ? I want my moneyback! I think I can shed light on where Autodesk is going, as far as Softimage is concerned. Go to Google and search for Autodesk Softimage. What is the first paid search result? This is the one that Autodesk marketing paid Google money to display. There is your answer. On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 10:51 AM, Steffen Dünner steffen.duen...@gmail.com wrote: 2013/8/8 Eugen Sares sof...@mail.sprit.org Wait, wasn't there a 3rd 3D application among those? Yes, this: http://area.autodesk.com/products/features/extensionmudbox :( Cheers Steffen -- PGP-ID(RSA): 0xD6E0CE93 Fingerprint: 879F 572C FEE4 9DE5 53A8 3C1C 22A9 C8DE D6E0 CE93 -- Best Regards, * Stephen P. Davidson** **(954) 552-7956 *sdavid...@3danimationmagic.com *Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic* - Arthur C. Clarke http://www.3danimationmagic.com This communication is intended for the addressee only. It is confidential. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately and destroy the original message. You may not copy or disseminate this communication without the permission of the University. Only authorised signatories are competent to enter into agreements on behalf of the University and recipients are thus advised that the content of this message may not be legally binding on the University and may contain the personal views and opinions of the author, which are not necessarily the views and opinions of The University of the Witwatersrand, Johannesburg. All agreements between the University and outsiders are subject to South African Law unless the University agrees in writing to the contrary. -- -=T=-
RE: Why did I pay support?? Why did I buy a suite ? I want my moneyback!
Well that explains a few things. ;( From: Eric Turman [i.anima...@gmail.com] Sent: 08 August 2013 06:35 PM To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: Re: Why did I pay support?? Why did I buy a suite ? I want my moneyback! . Bleh: Ad related to Autodesk Softimage 1. Autodesk® Maya® 2014 - Autodesk.comhttp://www.autodesk.com/Maya www.autodesk.com/Maya https://www.google.com/# * * Try The New, Upgraded Version Of Maya®. Download A Free Trial Today! 2. On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 11:33 AM, Angus Davidson angus.david...@wits.ac.zamailto:angus.david...@wits.ac.za wrote: For those of us who dont seem to get the paid results could you copy and paste ? ;) From: Stephen Davidson [magic...@bellsouth.netmailto:magic...@bellsouth.net] Sent: 08 August 2013 06:20 PM To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.commailto:softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: Re: Why did I pay support?? Why did I buy a suite ? I want my moneyback! I think I can shed light on where Autodesk is going, as far as Softimage is concerned. Go to Google and search for Autodesk Softimage. What is the first paid search result? This is the one that Autodesk marketing paid Google money to display. There is your answer. On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 10:51 AM, Steffen Dünner steffen.duen...@gmail.commailto:steffen.duen...@gmail.com wrote: 2013/8/8 Eugen Sares sof...@mail.sprit.orgmailto:sof...@mail.sprit.org Wait, wasn't there a 3rd 3D application among those? Yes, this: http://area.autodesk.com/products/features/extensionmudbox :( Cheers Steffen -- PGP-ID(RSA): 0xD6E0CE93 Fingerprint: 879F 572C FEE4 9DE5 53A8 3C1C 22A9 C8DE D6E0 CE93 -- Best Regards, Stephen P. Davidson (954) 552-7956tel:%28954%29%20552-7956 sdavid...@3danimationmagic.com Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic - Arthur C. Clarke [X]http://www.3danimationmagic.com This communication is intended for the addressee only. It is confidential. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately and destroy the original message. You may not copy or disseminate this communication without the permission of the University. Only authorised signatories are competent to enter into agreements on behalf of the University and recipients are thus advised that the content of this message may not be legally binding on the University and may contain the personal views and opinions of the author, which are not necessarily the views and opinions of The University of the Witwatersrand, Johannesburg. All agreements between the University and outsiders are subject to South African Law unless the University agrees in writing to the contrary. -- -=T=- table width=100% border=0 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0 style=width:100%; tr td align=left style=text-align:justify;font face=arial,sans-serif size=1 color=#99span style=font-size:11px;This communication is intended for the addressee only. It is confidential. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately and destroy the original message. You may not copy or disseminate this communication without the permission of the University. Only authorised signatories are competent to enter into agreements on behalf of the University and recipients are thus advised that the content of this message may not be legally binding on the University and may contain the personal views and opinions of the author, which are not necessarily the views and opinions of The University of the Witwatersrand, Johannesburg. All agreements between the University and outsiders are subject to South African Law unless the University agrees in writing to the contrary. /span/font/td /tr /table
Re: Why did I pay support?? Why did I buy a suite ? I want my moneyback!
i get this: Advertentie met betrekking tot *Autodesk Softimage*javascript:void(0) *Softimage*? http://www.aaadisplay.com/soft-image0297 591 413 www.aaadisplay.com/*soft-image*? *Softimage*: kwaliteit, licht snel. Bekijk nu onze Prijslijst online!? Not sure to laugh or cry a little :-\ Rob \/-\/\/ On 8-8-2013 18:35, Eric Turman wrote: . Bleh: Ad related to *Autodesk Softimage* 1. *Autodesk*® Maya® 2014 - *Autodesk*.com http://www.autodesk.com/Maya www.*autodesk*.com/Maya https://www.google.com/# * * Try The New, Upgraded Version Of Maya®. Download A Free Trial Today! 2. On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 11:33 AM, Angus Davidson angus.david...@wits.ac.za mailto:angus.david...@wits.ac.za wrote: For those of us who dont seem to get the paid results could you copy and paste ? ;) *From:* Stephen Davidson [magic...@bellsouth.net mailto:magic...@bellsouth.net] *Sent:* 08 August 2013 06:20 PM *To:* softimage@listproc.autodesk.com mailto:softimage@listproc.autodesk.com *Subject:* Re: Why did I pay support?? Why did I buy a suite ? I want my moneyback! I think I can shed light on where Autodesk is going, as far as Softimage is concerned. Go to Google and search for Autodesk Softimage. What is the first paid search result? This is the one that Autodesk marketing paid Google money to display. There is your answer. On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 10:51 AM, Steffen Dünner steffen.duen...@gmail.com mailto:steffen.duen...@gmail.com wrote: 2013/8/8 Eugen Sares sof...@mail.sprit.org mailto:sof...@mail.sprit.org Wait, wasn't there a 3rd 3D application among those? Yes, this: http://area.autodesk.com/products/features/extensionmudbox :( Cheers Steffen -- PGP-ID(RSA): 0xD6E0CE93 Fingerprint: 879F 572C FEE4 9DE5 53A8 3C1C 22A9 C8DE D6E0 CE93 -- Best Regards, * Stephen P. Davidson** **(954) 552-7956 tel:%28954%29%20552-7956 * sdavid...@3danimationmagic.com /Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic/ - Arthur C. Clarke http://www.3danimationmagic.com This communication is intended for the addressee only. It is confidential. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately and destroy the original message. You may not copy or disseminate this communication without the permission of the University. Only authorised signatories are competent to enter into agreements on behalf of the University and recipients are thus advised that the content of this message may not be legally binding on the University and may contain the personal views and opinions of the author, which are not necessarily the views and opinions of The University of the Witwatersrand, Johannesburg. All agreements between the University and outsiders are subject to South African Law unless the University agrees in writing to the contrary. -- -=T=- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com http://www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.3392 / Virus Database: 3209/6558 - Release Date: 08/07/13
Re: Why did I pay support?? Why did I buy a suite ? I want my moneyback!
To be fair though, I think it's safe to assume most people would simply search 'softimage' which does put softimage at the top of the page. On 8/8/2013 11:41 AM, Rares Halmagean wrote: Wow. Just wow. So anyone interested in checking out softimage and does a quick search would get a diversion like this from AD. Very telling. On 8/8/2013 11:35 AM, Mirko Jankovic wrote: Autodesk Softimage visual effects and 3D game development software enables artists to create stunning character animation and visual effects. Yes game development and they haven;t even try to make good connection to most popular game engines as well But they trying so hard to kill SI and it still doesn;t help says something how good actualy itis, after all updates given to Maya and still hard to push people from SI to it.. he On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 6:33 PM, Angus Davidson angus.david...@wits.ac.za mailto:angus.david...@wits.ac.za wrote: For those of us who dont seem to get the paid results could you copy and paste ? ;) *From:* Stephen Davidson [magic...@bellsouth.net mailto:magic...@bellsouth.net] *Sent:* 08 August 2013 06:20 PM *To:* softimage@listproc.autodesk.com mailto:softimage@listproc.autodesk.com *Subject:* Re: Why did I pay support?? Why did I buy a suite ? I want my moneyback! I think I can shed light on where Autodesk is going, as far as Softimage is concerned. Go to Google and search for Autodesk Softimage. What is the first paid search result? This is the one that Autodesk marketing paid Google money to display. There is your answer. On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 10:51 AM, Steffen Dünner steffen.duen...@gmail.com mailto:steffen.duen...@gmail.com wrote: 2013/8/8 Eugen Sares sof...@mail.sprit.org mailto:sof...@mail.sprit.org Wait, wasn't there a 3rd 3D application among those? Yes, this: http://area.autodesk.com/products/features/extensionmudbox :( Cheers Steffen -- PGP-ID(RSA): 0xD6E0CE93 Fingerprint: 879F 572C FEE4 9DE5 53A8 3C1C 22A9 C8DE D6E0 CE93 -- Best Regards, * Stephen P. Davidson** **(954) 552-7956 tel:%28954%29%20552-7956 * sdavid...@3danimationmagic.com /Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic/ - Arthur C. Clarke http://www.3danimationmagic.com This communication is intended for the addressee only. It is confidential. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately and destroy the original message. You may not copy or disseminate this communication without the permission of the University. Only authorised signatories are competent to enter into agreements on behalf of the University and recipients are thus advised that the content of this message may not be legally binding on the University and may contain the personal views and opinions of the author, which are not necessarily the views and opinions of The University of the Witwatersrand, Johannesburg. All agreements between the University and outsiders are subject to South African Law unless the University agrees in writing to the contrary. -- *Rares Halmagean ___ *visual development and 3d character content creation. *rarebrush.com* http://rarebrush.com/ -- *Rares Halmagean ___ *visual development and 3d character content creation. *rarebrush.com* http://rarebrush.com/
RE: Why did I pay support?? Why did I buy a suite ? I want my moneyback!
Bosley hair transplants? What am I missing..besides hair? Matt From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Stephen Davidson Sent: Thursday, August 08, 2013 9:21 AM To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: Re: Why did I pay support?? Why did I buy a suite ? I want my moneyback! I think I can shed light on where Autodesk is going, as far as Softimage is concerned. Go to Google and search for Autodesk Softimage. What is the first paid search result? This is the one that Autodesk marketing paid Google money to display. There is your answer. On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 10:51 AM, Steffen Dünner steffen.duen...@gmail.commailto:steffen.duen...@gmail.com wrote: 2013/8/8 Eugen Sares sof...@mail.sprit.orgmailto:sof...@mail.sprit.org Wait, wasn't there a 3rd 3D application among those? Yes, this: http://area.autodesk.com/products/features/extensionmudbox :( Cheers Steffen -- PGP-ID(RSA): 0xD6E0CE93 Fingerprint: 879F 572C FEE4 9DE5 53A8 3C1C 22A9 C8DE D6E0 CE93 -- Best Regards, Stephen P. Davidson (954) 552-7956 sdavid...@3danimationmagic.commailto:sdavid...@3danimationmagic.com Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic - Arthur C. Clarke [http://www.3danimationmagic.com/3Danimation_magic_logo_sign.jpg]http://www.3danimationmagic.com
Re: Why did I pay support?? Why did I buy a suite ? I want my moneyback!
I honestly don't know how anyone could just let AD do this to them and just roll over and switch to another AD product. We've been bitching about this for years now and the writing is definitely on the wall. This is Banksy level shit... Houdini Modo Blender C4D etc... ... just sayin' -- -Gene www.genecrucean.com
Re: Why did I pay support?? Why did I buy a suite ? I want my moneyback!
I mean hey... we got FBX 2014 support!! What else do we need. On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 10:03 AM, Gene Crucean emailgeneonthel...@gmail.comwrote: I honestly don't know how anyone could just let AD do this to them and just roll over and switch to another AD product. We've been bitching about this for years now and the writing is definitely on the wall. This is Banksy level shit... Houdini Modo Blender C4D etc... ... just sayin' -- -Gene www.genecrucean.com -- -Gene www.genecrucean.com
Re: Why did I pay support?? Why did I buy a suite ? I want my moneyback!
I suggest you be a bit more gentle with AD. they must be feeling the pinch if they go begging for money from Blender :P https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BQ-WgwkCEAAaAas.png On 8 August 2013 20:09, Gene Crucean emailgeneonthel...@gmail.com wrote: I mean hey... we got FBX 2014 support!! What else do we need. On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 10:03 AM, Gene Crucean emailgeneonthel...@gmail.com wrote: I honestly don't know how anyone could just let AD do this to them and just roll over and switch to another AD product. We've been bitching about this for years now and the writing is definitely on the wall. This is Banksy level shit... Houdini Modo Blender C4D etc... ... just sayin' -- -Gene www.genecrucean.com -- -Gene www.genecrucean.com -- Jon Swindells squi...@gmail.com
Re: Why did I pay support?? Why did I buy a suite ? I want my moneyback!
...unless you search xsi that is in which case you'll get maya at the top of the page again, followed second by 'procedural and visual effects softimage autodesk' . Inconsistent and confusing :-\ . On 8/8/2013 11:49 AM, Rares Halmagean wrote: To be fair though, I think it's safe to assume most people would simply search 'softimage' which does put softimage at the top of the page.
Re: Jittery strand-deformed instances
Not the answer I was hoping for, but at least it confirms that there's no way around it, guess I'll have to automate it Thanks! ModusFx On 07/08/2013 7:37 PM, Matt Lind wrote: ModusFx You are experiencing precision error with floating point values. As the integer portion increases, the precision of the decimal decreases. You could use scripting to automate, but you've pretty much found the accepted solution. Matt *From:*softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] *On Behalf Of *Philip Melancon *Sent:* Wednesday, August 07, 2013 3:37 PM *To:* softimage@listproc.autodesk.com *Subject:* Jittery strand-deformed instances Hi folks, I've got a simple setup where strands are deforming geometry instances. My problem is that the further we get from the global 0 of the 3d scene, the more the instances start deforming really weirdly. It looks as if a jitter operator has been applied to the instance. Our workaround so far has been to put everything under a null, bring it back to the center of the world, cache, and then move the cached result back where it's supposed to go. I'd love a less convoluted process if someone knows of a better way to fix this, as I'd hate to have to do this for 350 shots. Thanks, Phil No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com http://www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2242 / Virus Database: 3209/6057 - Release Date: 08/06/13
Re: Why did I pay support?? Why did I buy a suite ? I want my moneyback!
to take it one step further If you click on the Maya link, and then click on products at the top of the page, Softimage is not listed. I think they are pushing people to the Suite, but that is unclear. On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 12:41 PM, Rares Halmagean ra...@rarebrush.comwrote: Wow. Just wow. So anyone interested in checking out softimage and does a quick search would get a diversion like this from AD. Very telling. On 8/8/2013 11:35 AM, Mirko Jankovic wrote: Autodesk Softimage visual effects and 3D game development software enables artists to create stunning character animation and visual effects. Yes game development and they haven;t even try to make good connection to most popular game engines as well But they trying so hard to kill SI and it still doesn;t help says something how good actualy itis, after all updates given to Maya and still hard to push people from SI to it.. he On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 6:33 PM, Angus Davidson angus.david...@wits.ac.zawrote: For those of us who dont seem to get the paid results could you copy and paste ? ;) -- *From:* Stephen Davidson [magic...@bellsouth.net] *Sent:* 08 August 2013 06:20 PM *To:* softimage@listproc.autodesk.com *Subject:* Re: Why did I pay support?? Why did I buy a suite ? I want my moneyback! I think I can shed light on where Autodesk is going, as far as Softimage is concerned. Go to Google and search for Autodesk Softimage. What is the first paid search result? This is the one that Autodesk marketing paid Google money to display. There is your answer. On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 10:51 AM, Steffen Dünner steffen.duen...@gmail.com wrote: 2013/8/8 Eugen Sares sof...@mail.sprit.org Wait, wasn't there a 3rd 3D application among those? Yes, this: http://area.autodesk.com/products/features/extensionmudbox :( Cheers Steffen -- PGP-ID(RSA): 0xD6E0CE93 Fingerprint: 879F 572C FEE4 9DE5 53A8 3C1C 22A9 C8DE D6E0 CE93 -- Best Regards, * Stephen P. Davidson** **(954) 552-7956 *sdavid...@3danimationmagic.com *Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic* - Arthur C. Clarke http://www.3danimationmagic.com This communication is intended for the addressee only. It is confidential. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately and destroy the original message. You may not copy or disseminate this communication without the permission of the University. Only authorised signatories are competent to enter into agreements on behalf of the University and recipients are thus advised that the content of this message may not be legally binding on the University and may contain the personal views and opinions of the author, which are not necessarily the views and opinions of The University of the Witwatersrand, Johannesburg. All agreements between the University and outsiders are subject to South African Law unless the University agrees in writing to the contrary. -- *Rares Halmagean ___ *visual development and 3d character content creation. *rarebrush.com* http://rarebrush.com/ -- Best Regards, * Stephen P. Davidson** **(954) 552-7956 *sdavid...@3danimationmagic.com *Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic* - Arthur C. Clarke http://www.3danimationmagic.com
Re: Why did I pay support?? Why did I buy a suite ? I want my moneyback!
How about you guys click on the Softimage icon from your desktop and do your magic instead of wasting your time whining about some marketing bullshit? ;) On 8 August 2013 19:29, Stephen Davidson magic...@bellsouth.net wrote: to take it one step further If you click on the Maya link, and then click on products at the top of the page, Softimage is not listed. I think they are pushing people to the Suite, but that is unclear. On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 12:41 PM, Rares Halmagean ra...@rarebrush.comwrote: Wow. Just wow. So anyone interested in checking out softimage and does a quick search would get a diversion like this from AD. Very telling. On 8/8/2013 11:35 AM, Mirko Jankovic wrote: Autodesk Softimage visual effects and 3D game development software enables artists to create stunning character animation and visual effects. Yes game development and they haven;t even try to make good connection to most popular game engines as well But they trying so hard to kill SI and it still doesn;t help says something how good actualy itis, after all updates given to Maya and still hard to push people from SI to it.. he On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 6:33 PM, Angus Davidson angus.david...@wits.ac.za wrote: For those of us who dont seem to get the paid results could you copy and paste ? ;) -- *From:* Stephen Davidson [magic...@bellsouth.net] *Sent:* 08 August 2013 06:20 PM *To:* softimage@listproc.autodesk.com *Subject:* Re: Why did I pay support?? Why did I buy a suite ? I want my moneyback! I think I can shed light on where Autodesk is going, as far as Softimage is concerned. Go to Google and search for Autodesk Softimage. What is the first paid search result? This is the one that Autodesk marketing paid Google money to display. There is your answer. On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 10:51 AM, Steffen Dünner steffen.duen...@gmail.com wrote: 2013/8/8 Eugen Sares sof...@mail.sprit.org Wait, wasn't there a 3rd 3D application among those? Yes, this: http://area.autodesk.com/products/features/extensionmudbox :( Cheers Steffen -- PGP-ID(RSA): 0xD6E0CE93 Fingerprint: 879F 572C FEE4 9DE5 53A8 3C1C 22A9 C8DE D6E0 CE93 -- Best Regards, * Stephen P. Davidson** **(954) 552-7956 *sdavid...@3danimationmagic.com *Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic* - Arthur C. Clarke http://www.3danimationmagic.com This communication is intended for the addressee only. It is confidential. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately and destroy the original message. You may not copy or disseminate this communication without the permission of the University. Only authorised signatories are competent to enter into agreements on behalf of the University and recipients are thus advised that the content of this message may not be legally binding on the University and may contain the personal views and opinions of the author, which are not necessarily the views and opinions of The University of the Witwatersrand, Johannesburg. All agreements between the University and outsiders are subject to South African Law unless the University agrees in writing to the contrary. -- *Rares Halmagean ___ *visual development and 3d character content creation. *rarebrush.com* http://rarebrush.com/ -- Best Regards, * Stephen P. Davidson** **(954) 552-7956 *sdavid...@3danimationmagic.com *Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic* - Arthur C. Clarke http://www.3danimationmagic.com
Re: Why did I pay support?? Why did I buy a suite ? I want my moneyback!
This has come up before and official word as I recall is the products list in the menu is based off sales. Maya and Max have more clients than Soft. If it makes you feel better, Soft is one of the *Top products* here: http://www.autodesk.com/products On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 1:29 PM, Stephen Davidson magic...@bellsouth.netwrote: to take it one step further If you click on the Maya link, and then click on products at the top of the page, Softimage is not listed. I think they are pushing people to the Suite, but that is unclear. On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 12:41 PM, Rares Halmagean ra...@rarebrush.comwrote: Wow. Just wow. So anyone interested in checking out softimage and does a quick search would get a diversion like this from AD. Very telling. On 8/8/2013 11:35 AM, Mirko Jankovic wrote: Autodesk Softimage visual effects and 3D game development software enables artists to create stunning character animation and visual effects. Yes game development and they haven;t even try to make good connection to most popular game engines as well But they trying so hard to kill SI and it still doesn;t help says something how good actualy itis, after all updates given to Maya and still hard to push people from SI to it.. he On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 6:33 PM, Angus Davidson angus.david...@wits.ac.za wrote: For those of us who dont seem to get the paid results could you copy and paste ? ;) -- *From:* Stephen Davidson [magic...@bellsouth.net] *Sent:* 08 August 2013 06:20 PM *To:* softimage@listproc.autodesk.com *Subject:* Re: Why did I pay support?? Why did I buy a suite ? I want my moneyback! I think I can shed light on where Autodesk is going, as far as Softimage is concerned. Go to Google and search for Autodesk Softimage. What is the first paid search result? This is the one that Autodesk marketing paid Google money to display. There is your answer. On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 10:51 AM, Steffen Dünner steffen.duen...@gmail.com wrote: 2013/8/8 Eugen Sares sof...@mail.sprit.org Wait, wasn't there a 3rd 3D application among those? Yes, this: http://area.autodesk.com/products/features/extensionmudbox :( Cheers Steffen -- PGP-ID(RSA): 0xD6E0CE93 Fingerprint: 879F 572C FEE4 9DE5 53A8 3C1C 22A9 C8DE D6E0 CE93 -- Best Regards, * Stephen P. Davidson** **(954) 552-7956 *sdavid...@3danimationmagic.com *Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic* - Arthur C. Clarke http://www.3danimationmagic.com This communication is intended for the addressee only. It is confidential. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately and destroy the original message. You may not copy or disseminate this communication without the permission of the University. Only authorised signatories are competent to enter into agreements on behalf of the University and recipients are thus advised that the content of this message may not be legally binding on the University and may contain the personal views and opinions of the author, which are not necessarily the views and opinions of The University of the Witwatersrand, Johannesburg. All agreements between the University and outsiders are subject to South African Law unless the University agrees in writing to the contrary. -- *Rares Halmagean ___ *visual development and 3d character content creation. *rarebrush.com* http://rarebrush.com/ -- Best Regards, * Stephen P. Davidson** **(954) 552-7956 *sdavid...@3danimationmagic.com *Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic* - Arthur C. Clarke http://www.3danimationmagic.com
Re: Why did I pay support?? Why did I buy a suite ? I want my moneyback!
Softimage 2014 SP3 clicking on SI icon will take you to Maya shop first... On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 7:43 PM, Christopher Crouzet christopher.crou...@gmail.com wrote: How about you guys click on the Softimage icon from your desktop and do your magic instead of wasting your time whining about some marketing bullshit? ;) On 8 August 2013 19:29, Stephen Davidson magic...@bellsouth.net wrote: to take it one step further If you click on the Maya link, and then click on products at the top of the page, Softimage is not listed. I think they are pushing people to the Suite, but that is unclear. On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 12:41 PM, Rares Halmagean ra...@rarebrush.comwrote: Wow. Just wow. So anyone interested in checking out softimage and does a quick search would get a diversion like this from AD. Very telling. On 8/8/2013 11:35 AM, Mirko Jankovic wrote: Autodesk Softimage visual effects and 3D game development software enables artists to create stunning character animation and visual effects. Yes game development and they haven;t even try to make good connection to most popular game engines as well But they trying so hard to kill SI and it still doesn;t help says something how good actualy itis, after all updates given to Maya and still hard to push people from SI to it.. he On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 6:33 PM, Angus Davidson angus.david...@wits.ac.za wrote: For those of us who dont seem to get the paid results could you copy and paste ? ;) -- *From:* Stephen Davidson [magic...@bellsouth.net] *Sent:* 08 August 2013 06:20 PM *To:* softimage@listproc.autodesk.com *Subject:* Re: Why did I pay support?? Why did I buy a suite ? I want my moneyback! I think I can shed light on where Autodesk is going, as far as Softimage is concerned. Go to Google and search for Autodesk Softimage. What is the first paid search result? This is the one that Autodesk marketing paid Google money to display. There is your answer. On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 10:51 AM, Steffen Dünner steffen.duen...@gmail.com wrote: 2013/8/8 Eugen Sares sof...@mail.sprit.org Wait, wasn't there a 3rd 3D application among those? Yes, this: http://area.autodesk.com/products/features/extensionmudbox :( Cheers Steffen -- PGP-ID(RSA): 0xD6E0CE93 Fingerprint: 879F 572C FEE4 9DE5 53A8 3C1C 22A9 C8DE D6E0 CE93 -- Best Regards, * Stephen P. Davidson** **(954) 552-7956 *sdavid...@3danimationmagic.com *Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic* - Arthur C. Clarke http://www.3danimationmagic.com This communication is intended for the addressee only. It is confidential. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately and destroy the original message. You may not copy or disseminate this communication without the permission of the University. Only authorised signatories are competent to enter into agreements on behalf of the University and recipients are thus advised that the content of this message may not be legally binding on the University and may contain the personal views and opinions of the author, which are not necessarily the views and opinions of The University of the Witwatersrand, Johannesburg. All agreements between the University and outsiders are subject to South African Law unless the University agrees in writing to the contrary. -- *Rares Halmagean ___ *visual development and 3d character content creation. *rarebrush.com* http://rarebrush.com/ -- Best Regards, * Stephen P. Davidson** **(954) 552-7956 *sdavid...@3danimationmagic.com *Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic* - Arthur C. Clarke http://www.3danimationmagic.com
RE: Why did I pay support?? Why did I buy a suite ? I want my moneyback!
Let's do a quick review of history: - Microsoft bought softimage in 1994 and pushed DS and XSI onto windows. This put windows dependencies into both products. - Avid bought softimage after seeing the writing on the wall they'd be squashed by Microsoft if they didn't. - Avid ran both products into the ground via underfunding. Only through heroic efforts of devs and passionate users did it keep going. - Autodesk bought softimage for their developers according to the original press release. Reading between the lines, Autodesk never promised continuation of the product known as Softimage. AD only kept it going because it could produce revenue. Autodesk had the plan from the beginning to use the developers for other purposes. That much should be obvious now. Matt From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Stephen Davidson Sent: Thursday, August 08, 2013 10:30 AM To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: Re: Why did I pay support?? Why did I buy a suite ? I want my moneyback! to take it one step further If you click on the Maya link, and then click on products at the top of the page, Softimage is not listed. I think they are pushing people to the Suite, but that is unclear. On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 12:41 PM, Rares Halmagean ra...@rarebrush.commailto:ra...@rarebrush.com wrote: Wow. Just wow. So anyone interested in checking out softimage and does a quick search would get a diversion like this from AD. Very telling. On 8/8/2013 11:35 AM, Mirko Jankovic wrote: Autodesk Softimage visual effects and 3D game development software enables artists to create stunning character animation and visual effects. Yes game development and they haven;t even try to make good connection to most popular game engines as well But they trying so hard to kill SI and it still doesn;t help says something how good actualy itis, after all updates given to Maya and still hard to push people from SI to it.. he On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 6:33 PM, Angus Davidson angus.david...@wits.ac.zamailto:angus.david...@wits.ac.za wrote: For those of us who dont seem to get the paid results could you copy and paste ? ;) From: Stephen Davidson [magic...@bellsouth.netmailto:magic...@bellsouth.net] Sent: 08 August 2013 06:20 PM To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.commailto:softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: Re: Why did I pay support?? Why did I buy a suite ? I want my moneyback! I think I can shed light on where Autodesk is going, as far as Softimage is concerned. Go to Google and search for Autodesk Softimage. What is the first paid search result? This is the one that Autodesk marketing paid Google money to display. There is your answer. On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 10:51 AM, Steffen Dünner steffen.duen...@gmail.commailto:steffen.duen...@gmail.com wrote: 2013/8/8 Eugen Sares sof...@mail.sprit.orgmailto:sof...@mail.sprit.org Wait, wasn't there a 3rd 3D application among those? Yes, this: http://area.autodesk.com/products/features/extensionmudbox :( Cheers Steffen -- PGP-ID(RSA): 0xD6E0CE93 Fingerprint: 879F 572C FEE4 9DE5 53A8 3C1C 22A9 C8DE D6E0 CE93 -- Best Regards, Stephen P. Davidson (954) 552-7956tel:%28954%29%20552-7956 sdavid...@3danimationmagic.commailto:sdavid...@3danimationmagic.com Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic - Arthur C. Clarke http://www.3danimationmagic.com This communication is intended for the addressee only. It is confidential. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately and destroy the original message. You may not copy or disseminate this communication without the permission of the University. Only authorised signatories are competent to enter into agreements on behalf of the University and recipients are thus advised that the content of this message may not be legally binding on the University and may contain the personal views and opinions of the author, which are not necessarily the views and opinions of The University of the Witwatersrand, Johannesburg. All agreements between the University and outsiders are subject to South African Law unless the University agrees in writing to the contrary. http://www.3danimationmagic.com http://www.3danimationmagic.com http://www.3danimationmagic.com -- Rares Halmagean ___ visual development and 3d character content creation. rarebrush.com http://www.3danimationmagic.com http://www.3danimationmagic.com http://www.3danimationmagic.com -- http://www.3danimationmagic.com Best Regards, Stephen P. Davidson (954) 552-7956 sdavid...@3danimationmagic.comhttp://www.3danimationmagic.com Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magichttp://www.3danimationmagic.com
Re: Why did I pay support?? Why did I buy a suite ? I want my moneyback!
+1 On Aug 8, 2013 8:29 PM, Stephen Davidson magic...@bellsouth.net wrote: to take it one step further If you click on the Maya link, and then click on products at the top of the page, Softimage is not listed. I think they are pushing people to the Suite, but that is unclear. On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 12:41 PM, Rares Halmagean ra...@rarebrush.comwrote: Wow. Just wow. So anyone interested in checking out softimage and does a quick search would get a diversion like this from AD. Very telling. On 8/8/2013 11:35 AM, Mirko Jankovic wrote: Autodesk Softimage visual effects and 3D game development software enables artists to create stunning character animation and visual effects. Yes game development and they haven;t even try to make good connection to most popular game engines as well But they trying so hard to kill SI and it still doesn;t help says something how good actualy itis, after all updates given to Maya and still hard to push people from SI to it.. he On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 6:33 PM, Angus Davidson angus.david...@wits.ac.za wrote: For those of us who dont seem to get the paid results could you copy and paste ? ;) -- *From:* Stephen Davidson [magic...@bellsouth.net] *Sent:* 08 August 2013 06:20 PM *To:* softimage@listproc.autodesk.com *Subject:* Re: Why did I pay support?? Why did I buy a suite ? I want my moneyback! I think I can shed light on where Autodesk is going, as far as Softimage is concerned. Go to Google and search for Autodesk Softimage. What is the first paid search result? This is the one that Autodesk marketing paid Google money to display. There is your answer. On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 10:51 AM, Steffen Dünner steffen.duen...@gmail.com wrote: 2013/8/8 Eugen Sares sof...@mail.sprit.org Wait, wasn't there a 3rd 3D application among those? Yes, this: http://area.autodesk.com/products/features/extensionmudbox :( Cheers Steffen -- PGP-ID(RSA): 0xD6E0CE93 Fingerprint: 879F 572C FEE4 9DE5 53A8 3C1C 22A9 C8DE D6E0 CE93 -- Best Regards, * Stephen P. Davidson** **(954) 552-7956 *sdavid...@3danimationmagic.com *Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic* - Arthur C. Clarke http://www.3danimationmagic.com This communication is intended for the addressee only. It is confidential. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately and destroy the original message. You may not copy or disseminate this communication without the permission of the University. Only authorised signatories are competent to enter into agreements on behalf of the University and recipients are thus advised that the content of this message may not be legally binding on the University and may contain the personal views and opinions of the author, which are not necessarily the views and opinions of The University of the Witwatersrand, Johannesburg. All agreements between the University and outsiders are subject to South African Law unless the University agrees in writing to the contrary. -- *Rares Halmagean ___ *visual development and 3d character content creation. *rarebrush.com* http://rarebrush.com/ -- Best Regards, * Stephen P. Davidson** **(954) 552-7956 *sdavid...@3danimationmagic.com *Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic* - Arthur C. Clarke http://www.3danimationmagic.com
Spherical Harmonics in ICE
Hey gang, I was diving into Spherical Harmonics the last few days and I wanted to share my results with you. I ended up with two custom ICE nodes to generate/evaluate Spherical Harmonic coefficients and learned a lot during this exercise. So in case anybody is interested please take a look: http://vimeo.com/71990801 on the vimeo page is a link to the scene and the source Cheers Vladimir
Re: Why did I pay support?? Why did I buy a suite ? I want my moneyback!
Ignorance is bliss isn't it Christopher? I don't know about you but I like planning for my future. On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 10:43 AM, Christopher Crouzet christopher.crou...@gmail.com wrote: How about you guys click on the Softimage icon from your desktop and do your magic instead of wasting your time whining about some marketing bullshit? ;) On 8 August 2013 19:29, Stephen Davidson magic...@bellsouth.net wrote: to take it one step further If you click on the Maya link, and then click on products at the top of the page, Softimage is not listed. I think they are pushing people to the Suite, but that is unclear. On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 12:41 PM, Rares Halmagean ra...@rarebrush.comwrote: Wow. Just wow. So anyone interested in checking out softimage and does a quick search would get a diversion like this from AD. Very telling. On 8/8/2013 11:35 AM, Mirko Jankovic wrote: Autodesk Softimage visual effects and 3D game development software enables artists to create stunning character animation and visual effects. Yes game development and they haven;t even try to make good connection to most popular game engines as well But they trying so hard to kill SI and it still doesn;t help says something how good actualy itis, after all updates given to Maya and still hard to push people from SI to it.. he On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 6:33 PM, Angus Davidson angus.david...@wits.ac.za wrote: For those of us who dont seem to get the paid results could you copy and paste ? ;) -- *From:* Stephen Davidson [magic...@bellsouth.net] *Sent:* 08 August 2013 06:20 PM *To:* softimage@listproc.autodesk.com *Subject:* Re: Why did I pay support?? Why did I buy a suite ? I want my moneyback! I think I can shed light on where Autodesk is going, as far as Softimage is concerned. Go to Google and search for Autodesk Softimage. What is the first paid search result? This is the one that Autodesk marketing paid Google money to display. There is your answer. On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 10:51 AM, Steffen Dünner steffen.duen...@gmail.com wrote: 2013/8/8 Eugen Sares sof...@mail.sprit.org Wait, wasn't there a 3rd 3D application among those? Yes, this: http://area.autodesk.com/products/features/extensionmudbox :( Cheers Steffen -- PGP-ID(RSA): 0xD6E0CE93 Fingerprint: 879F 572C FEE4 9DE5 53A8 3C1C 22A9 C8DE D6E0 CE93 -- Best Regards, * Stephen P. Davidson** **(954) 552-7956 *sdavid...@3danimationmagic.com *Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic* - Arthur C. Clarke http://www.3danimationmagic.com This communication is intended for the addressee only. It is confidential. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately and destroy the original message. You may not copy or disseminate this communication without the permission of the University. Only authorised signatories are competent to enter into agreements on behalf of the University and recipients are thus advised that the content of this message may not be legally binding on the University and may contain the personal views and opinions of the author, which are not necessarily the views and opinions of The University of the Witwatersrand, Johannesburg. All agreements between the University and outsiders are subject to South African Law unless the University agrees in writing to the contrary. -- *Rares Halmagean ___ *visual development and 3d character content creation. *rarebrush.com* http://rarebrush.com/ -- Best Regards, * Stephen P. Davidson** **(954) 552-7956 *sdavid...@3danimationmagic.com *Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic* - Arthur C. Clarke http://www.3danimationmagic.com -- -Gene www.genecrucean.com
RE: Why did I pay support?? Why did I buy a suite ? I want my moneyback!
Good point. I've changed 3d pipeline from Maya or Max to SI several times in past new job. I said SI is real great 3D software, but AD doesn't even have SI on their product list. What I have to show them was pull down All product menu and find it out. What other people see is SI is like a bundle of Max or Maya... That's why I often imagine what if SI is just one of 3D independent software like Modo, Cinema4D, or Houdini... I am not sure, but I believe SI could be a lot better than now. Daniel From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Stephen Davidson Sent: Friday, August 09, 2013 5:30 AM To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: Re: Why did I pay support?? Why did I buy a suite ? I want my moneyback! to take it one step further If you click on the Maya link, and then click on products at the top of the page, Softimage is not listed. I think they are pushing people to the Suite, but that is unclear. On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 12:41 PM, Rares Halmagean ra...@rarebrush.commailto:ra...@rarebrush.com wrote: Wow. Just wow. So anyone interested in checking out softimage and does a quick search would get a diversion like this from AD. Very telling. On 8/8/2013 11:35 AM, Mirko Jankovic wrote: Autodesk Softimage visual effects and 3D game development software enables artists to create stunning character animation and visual effects. Yes game development and they haven;t even try to make good connection to most popular game engines as well But they trying so hard to kill SI and it still doesn;t help says something how good actualy itis, after all updates given to Maya and still hard to push people from SI to it.. he On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 6:33 PM, Angus Davidson angus.david...@wits.ac.zamailto:angus.david...@wits.ac.za wrote: For those of us who dont seem to get the paid results could you copy and paste ? ;) From: Stephen Davidson [magic...@bellsouth.netmailto:magic...@bellsouth.net] Sent: 08 August 2013 06:20 PM To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.commailto:softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: Re: Why did I pay support?? Why did I buy a suite ? I want my moneyback! I think I can shed light on where Autodesk is going, as far as Softimage is concerned. Go to Google and search for Autodesk Softimage. What is the first paid search result? This is the one that Autodesk marketing paid Google money to display. There is your answer. On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 10:51 AM, Steffen Dünner steffen.duen...@gmail.commailto:steffen.duen...@gmail.com wrote: 2013/8/8 Eugen Sares sof...@mail.sprit.orgmailto:sof...@mail.sprit.org Wait, wasn't there a 3rd 3D application among those? Yes, this: http://area.autodesk.com/products/features/extensionmudbox :( Cheers Steffen -- PGP-ID(RSA): 0xD6E0CE93 Fingerprint: 879F 572C FEE4 9DE5 53A8 3C1C 22A9 C8DE D6E0 CE93 -- Best Regards, Stephen P. Davidson (954) 552-7956tel:%28954%29%20552-7956 sdavid...@3danimationmagic.commailto:sdavid...@3danimationmagic.com Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic - Arthur C. Clarke http://www.3danimationmagic.com This communication is intended for the addressee only. It is confidential. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately and destroy the original message. You may not copy or disseminate this communication without the permission of the University. Only authorised signatories are competent to enter into agreements on behalf of the University and recipients are thus advised that the content of this message may not be legally binding on the University and may contain the personal views and opinions of the author, which are not necessarily the views and opinions of The University of the Witwatersrand, Johannesburg. All agreements between the University and outsiders are subject to South African Law unless the University agrees in writing to the contrary. http://www.3danimationmagic.com http://www.3danimationmagic.com http://www.3danimationmagic.com -- Rares Halmagean ___ visual development and 3d character content creation. rarebrush.com http://www.3danimationmagic.com http://www.3danimationmagic.com http://www.3danimationmagic.com -- http://www.3danimationmagic.com Best Regards, Stephen P. Davidson (954) 552-7956 sdavid...@3danimationmagic.comhttp://www.3danimationmagic.com Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magichttp://www.3danimationmagic.com - Arthur C. Clarkehttp://www.3danimationmagic.com [http://www.3danimationmagic.com/3Danimation_magic_logo_sign.jpg]http://www.3danimationmagic.com
Re: Why did I pay support?? Why did I buy a suite ? I want my moneyback!
Funny enough I keep receiving tweets from Autodesk related to great work and articles done with… Softimage!!! amazing… I wish they sell the software to someone serious about it to rescue from its current state, it has been all downhill since Autodesk took over. Regarding the competitors, the only serious alternative right now is Houdini and although a step learning curve it is truly worth it. I want to see how Modo does but I am even more interested to what happens to The Foundry as a company as it is partially owned by an investor group that will surely sell soon to get there profits… :-P Let's see Jordi Bares jordiba...@gmail.com On 8 Aug 2013, at 22:05, Daniel Kim dani...@magicboxandapps.com wrote: Good point. I’ve changed 3d pipeline from Maya or Max to SI several times in past new job. I said SI is real great 3D software, but AD doesn’t even have SI on their product list. What I have to show them was pull down All product menu and find it out. What other people see is SI is like a bundle of Max or Maya… That’s why I often imagine what if SI is just one of 3D independent software like Modo, Cinema4D, or Houdini… I am not sure, but I believe SI could be a lot better than now. Daniel From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Stephen Davidson Sent: Friday, August 09, 2013 5:30 AM To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: Re: Why did I pay support?? Why did I buy a suite ? I want my moneyback! to take it one step further If you click on the Maya link, and then click on products at the top of the page, Softimage is not listed. I think they are pushing people to the Suite, but that is unclear. On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 12:41 PM, Rares Halmagean ra...@rarebrush.com wrote: Wow. Just wow. So anyone interested in checking out softimage and does a quick search would get a diversion like this from AD. Very telling. On 8/8/2013 11:35 AM, Mirko Jankovic wrote: Autodesk Softimage visual effects and 3D game development software enables artists to create stunning character animation and visual effects. Yes game development and they haven;t even try to make good connection to most popular game engines as well But they trying so hard to kill SI and it still doesn;t help says something how good actualy itis, after all updates given to Maya and still hard to push people from SI to it.. he On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 6:33 PM, Angus Davidson angus.david...@wits.ac.za wrote: For those of us who dont seem to get the paid results could you copy and paste ? ;) From: Stephen Davidson [magic...@bellsouth.net] Sent: 08 August 2013 06:20 PM To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: Re: Why did I pay support?? Why did I buy a suite ? I want my moneyback! I think I can shed light on where Autodesk is going, as far as Softimage is concerned. Go to Google and search for Autodesk Softimage. What is the first paid search result? This is the one that Autodesk marketing paid Google money to display. There is your answer. On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 10:51 AM, Steffen Dünner steffen.duen...@gmail.com wrote: 2013/8/8 Eugen Sares sof...@mail.sprit.org Wait, wasn't there a 3rd 3D application among those? Yes, this: http://area.autodesk.com/products/features/extensionmudbox :( Cheers Steffen -- PGP-ID(RSA): 0xD6E0CE93 Fingerprint: 879F 572C FEE4 9DE5 53A8 3C1C 22A9 C8DE D6E0 CE93 -- Best Regards, Stephen P. Davidson (954) 552-7956 sdavid...@3danimationmagic.com Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic - Arthur C. Clarke This communication is intended for the addressee only. It is confidential. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately and destroy the original message. You may not copy or disseminate this communication without the permission of the University. Only authorised signatories are competent to enter into agreements on behalf of the University and recipients are thus advised that the content of this message may not be legally binding on the University and may contain the personal views and opinions of the author, which are not necessarily the views and opinions of The University of the Witwatersrand, Johannesburg. All agreements between the University and outsiders are subject to South African Law unless the University agrees in writing to the contrary. -- Rares Halmagean ___ visual development and 3d character content creation. rarebrush.com -- Best Regards, Stephen P. Davidson (954) 552-7956 sdavid...@3danimationmagic.com Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic
Re: Why did I pay support?? Why did I buy a suite ? I want my moneyback!
If I were using Softimage, I wouldn't be here (discussion group). :) This is what I do while waiting for a render... Catch up on the latest talk about new features, work-a-rounds, and industry gossip. Now that I work 100% on the internet, how else am I supposed to mingle with my peers? I can no longer afford to go to Sigraph, since my rate had declined every year I have been in business. Softimage has managed to fill the void left when Cubicomp Picturemaker left the 3D animation scene. That was version 1.0 on an SGI. It has come a long way and had several owners. I am just trying to predict the jump the shark so I don't get left behind. I suspect my next move will be Blender on Unix, using a tablet and a pen. I am resisting it, though. :) On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 1:43 PM, Christopher Crouzet christopher.crou...@gmail.com wrote: How about you guys click on the Softimage icon from your desktop and do your magic instead of wasting your time whining about some marketing bullshit? ;) On 8 August 2013 19:29, Stephen Davidson magic...@bellsouth.net wrote: to take it one step further If you click on the Maya link, and then click on products at the top of the page, Softimage is not listed. I think they are pushing people to the Suite, but that is unclear. On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 12:41 PM, Rares Halmagean ra...@rarebrush.comwrote: Wow. Just wow. So anyone interested in checking out softimage and does a quick search would get a diversion like this from AD. Very telling. On 8/8/2013 11:35 AM, Mirko Jankovic wrote: Autodesk Softimage visual effects and 3D game development software enables artists to create stunning character animation and visual effects. Yes game development and they haven;t even try to make good connection to most popular game engines as well But they trying so hard to kill SI and it still doesn;t help says something how good actualy itis, after all updates given to Maya and still hard to push people from SI to it.. he On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 6:33 PM, Angus Davidson angus.david...@wits.ac.za wrote: For those of us who dont seem to get the paid results could you copy and paste ? ;) -- *From:* Stephen Davidson [magic...@bellsouth.net] *Sent:* 08 August 2013 06:20 PM *To:* softimage@listproc.autodesk.com *Subject:* Re: Why did I pay support?? Why did I buy a suite ? I want my moneyback! I think I can shed light on where Autodesk is going, as far as Softimage is concerned. Go to Google and search for Autodesk Softimage. What is the first paid search result? This is the one that Autodesk marketing paid Google money to display. There is your answer. On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 10:51 AM, Steffen Dünner steffen.duen...@gmail.com wrote: 2013/8/8 Eugen Sares sof...@mail.sprit.org Wait, wasn't there a 3rd 3D application among those? Yes, this: http://area.autodesk.com/products/features/extensionmudbox :( Cheers Steffen -- PGP-ID(RSA): 0xD6E0CE93 Fingerprint: 879F 572C FEE4 9DE5 53A8 3C1C 22A9 C8DE D6E0 CE93 -- Best Regards, * Stephen P. Davidson** **(954) 552-7956 *sdavid...@3danimationmagic.com *Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic* - Arthur C. Clarke http://www.3danimationmagic.com This communication is intended for the addressee only. It is confidential. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately and destroy the original message. You may not copy or disseminate this communication without the permission of the University. Only authorised signatories are competent to enter into agreements on behalf of the University and recipients are thus advised that the content of this message may not be legally binding on the University and may contain the personal views and opinions of the author, which are not necessarily the views and opinions of The University of the Witwatersrand, Johannesburg. All agreements between the University and outsiders are subject to South African Law unless the University agrees in writing to the contrary. -- *Rares Halmagean ___ *visual development and 3d character content creation. *rarebrush.com* http://rarebrush.com/ -- Best Regards, * Stephen P. Davidson** **(954) 552-7956 *sdavid...@3danimationmagic.com *Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic* - Arthur C. Clarke http://www.3danimationmagic.com -- Best Regards, * Stephen P. Davidson** **(954) 552-7956 *sdavid...@3danimationmagic.com *Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic* - Arthur C. Clarke http://www.3danimationmagic.com
Re: Why did I pay support?? Why did I buy a suite ? I want my moneyback!
Houdini is definitely the biggest contender right now... but I definitely see Blender as a *huge *threat to Autodesk. That software is going places and if they can just get a few dev's on board that understand pipeline and workflow a bit better... it will blow up. I love love love Houdini but it's modeling workflow is poop *imo... *which unfortunately is a sizable portion of my day to day tasks. Even if it's just to quickly fix something small. Modo is quite nice too... but I can't get past the shitty material editor and I mostly do lighting and rendering, so this is for me hard to deal with. On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 2:19 PM, Jordi Bares jordiba...@gmail.com wrote: Funny enough I keep receiving tweets from Autodesk related to great work and articles done with… Softimage!!! amazing… I wish they sell the software to someone serious about it to rescue from its current state, it has been all downhill since Autodesk took over. Regarding the competitors, the only serious alternative right now is Houdini and although a step learning curve it is truly worth it. I want to see how Modo does but I am even more interested to what happens to The Foundry as a company as it is partially owned by an investor group that will surely sell soon to get there profits… :-P Let's see Jordi Bares jordiba...@gmail.com On 8 Aug 2013, at 22:05, Daniel Kim dani...@magicboxandapps.com wrote: Good point. I’ve changed 3d pipeline from Maya or Max to SI several times in past new job. I said SI is real great 3D software, but AD doesn’t even have SI on their product list. What I have to show them was pull down All product menu and find it out. What other people see is SI is like a bundle of Max or Maya… That’s why I often imagine what if SI is just one of 3D independent software like Modo, Cinema4D, or Houdini… I am not sure, but I believe SI could be a lot better than now. Daniel *From:* softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:softimage- boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] *On Behalf Of *Stephen Davidson *Sent:* Friday, August 09, 2013 5:30 AM *To:* softimage@listproc.autodesk.com *Subject:* Re: Why did I pay support?? Why did I buy a suite ? I want my moneyback! ** ** to take it one step further If you click on the Maya link, and then click on products at the top of the page, Softimage is not listed. I think they are pushing people to the Suite, but that is unclear. ** ** On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 12:41 PM, Rares Halmagean ra...@rarebrush.com wrote: Wow. Just wow. So anyone interested in checking out softimage and does a quick search would get a diversion like this from AD. Very telling. On 8/8/2013 11:35 AM, Mirko Jankovic wrote: *Autodesk Softimage* visual effects and 3D game development software enables artists to create stunning character animation and visual effects. ** ** Yes game development and they haven;t even try to make good connection to most popular game engines as well But they trying so hard to kill SI and it still doesn;t help says something how good actualy itis, after all updates given to Maya and still hard to push people from SI to it.. he ** ** On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 6:33 PM, Angus Davidson angus.david...@wits.ac.za wrote: For those of us who dont seem to get the paid results could you copy and paste ? ;) -- *From:* Stephen Davidson [magic...@bellsouth.net] *Sent:* 08 August 2013 06:20 PM *To:* softimage@listproc.autodesk.com *Subject:* Re: Why did I pay support?? Why did I buy a suite ? I want my moneyback! I think I can shed light on where Autodesk is going, as far as Softimage is concerned. Go to Google and search for Autodesk Softimage. What is the first paid search result? This is the one that Autodesk marketing paid Google money to display. There is your answer. ** ** On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 10:51 AM, Steffen Dünner steffen.duen...@gmail.com wrote: ** ** 2013/8/8 Eugen Sares sof...@mail.sprit.org Wait, wasn't there a 3rd 3D application among those? ** ** Yes, this: http://area.autodesk.com/products/features/extensionmudbox :( Cheers Steffen -- PGP-ID(RSA): 0xD6E0CE93 Fingerprint: 879F 572C FEE4 9DE5 53A8 3C1C 22A9 C8DE D6E0 CE93 ** ** -- Best Regards, * Stephen P. Davidson ** (954) 552-7956 *sdavid...@3danimationmagic.com *Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic* - Arthur C. Clarke http://www.3danimationmagic.com This communication is intended for the addressee only. It is confidential. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately and destroy the original message. You may not copy or disseminate this communication without the permission of the University. Only authorised signatories are competent to enter into
Re: Why did I pay support?? Why did I buy a suite ? I want my moneyback!
It's not about ignorance. With all my respect, as everyone I'm not so happy to see how things have been going since Autodesk took over Softimage, but do you think that talking on a mailing-list about Google Ads and relating each little marketing glitch in order to elaborate a conspiracy theory will help at all? If it actually does something, I bet it's probably pissing off the remaining devs trying their best to save things with their means and it must help the marketing guys to think we're just a bunch of fanboys not even worth dealing with (ok, I'm exaggerating a bit). As for me, I chose to focus on actively looking for a solution rather than hoping for the best and linking my own future to a software's destiny. My whole working experience taught me how to be dynamic and adapt to my environment, so even if the whole industry had to stop, I won't need any planning, I'd be ready for that. We'll all be, I'm sure. Anyways, get used to it, every software dies at some point, better be ready sooner than later. I'm sure that you, like all the clever boys that we are on this mailing list, have already started to think on how to move on. And I know that it can be trickier for a company to move things around, but in the very worst case, Softimage will still work as it is and you're already rocking with it, so it's not too bad. On top of this, it sounds like we can now count on Fabric Engine to push things forward without having to ditch all our existing pipelines, so how could we not roll even more in the future? ;) On 8 August 2013 22:26, Gene Crucean emailgeneonthel...@gmail.com wrote: Ignorance is bliss isn't it Christopher? I don't know about you but I like planning for my future. On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 10:43 AM, Christopher Crouzet christopher.crou...@gmail.com wrote: How about you guys click on the Softimage icon from your desktop and do your magic instead of wasting your time whining about some marketing bullshit? ;) On 8 August 2013 19:29, Stephen Davidson magic...@bellsouth.net wrote: to take it one step further If you click on the Maya link, and then click on products at the top of the page, Softimage is not listed. I think they are pushing people to the Suite, but that is unclear. On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 12:41 PM, Rares Halmagean ra...@rarebrush.comwrote: Wow. Just wow. So anyone interested in checking out softimage and does a quick search would get a diversion like this from AD. Very telling. On 8/8/2013 11:35 AM, Mirko Jankovic wrote: Autodesk Softimage visual effects and 3D game development software enables artists to create stunning character animation and visual effects. Yes game development and they haven;t even try to make good connection to most popular game engines as well But they trying so hard to kill SI and it still doesn;t help says something how good actualy itis, after all updates given to Maya and still hard to push people from SI to it.. he On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 6:33 PM, Angus Davidson angus.david...@wits.ac.za wrote: For those of us who dont seem to get the paid results could you copy and paste ? ;) -- *From:* Stephen Davidson [magic...@bellsouth.net] *Sent:* 08 August 2013 06:20 PM *To:* softimage@listproc.autodesk.com *Subject:* Re: Why did I pay support?? Why did I buy a suite ? I want my moneyback! I think I can shed light on where Autodesk is going, as far as Softimage is concerned. Go to Google and search for Autodesk Softimage. What is the first paid search result? This is the one that Autodesk marketing paid Google money to display. There is your answer. On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 10:51 AM, Steffen Dünner steffen.duen...@gmail.com wrote: 2013/8/8 Eugen Sares sof...@mail.sprit.org Wait, wasn't there a 3rd 3D application among those? Yes, this: http://area.autodesk.com/products/features/extensionmudbox :( Cheers Steffen -- PGP-ID(RSA): 0xD6E0CE93 Fingerprint: 879F 572C FEE4 9DE5 53A8 3C1C 22A9 C8DE D6E0 CE93 -- Best Regards, * Stephen P. Davidson** **(954) 552-7956 *sdavid...@3danimationmagic.com *Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic* - Arthur C. Clarke http://www.3danimationmagic.com This communication is intended for the addressee only. It is confidential. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately and destroy the original message. You may not copy or disseminate this communication without the permission of the University. Only authorised signatories are competent to enter into agreements on behalf of the University and recipients are thus advised that the content of this message may not be legally binding on the University and may contain the personal views and opinions of the author, which are not necessarily the views and opinions of The University of the Witwatersrand, Johannesburg. All agreements between the
Re: Why did I pay support?? Why did I buy a suite ? I want my moneyback!
tomorrow should be fun ;) On 8 August 2013 17:41, Christopher Crouzet christopher.crou...@gmail.comwrote: It's not about ignorance. With all my respect, as everyone I'm not so happy to see how things have been going since Autodesk took over Softimage, but do you think that talking on a mailing-list about Google Ads and relating each little marketing glitch in order to elaborate a conspiracy theory will help at all? If it actually does something, I bet it's probably pissing off the remaining devs trying their best to save things with their means and it must help the marketing guys to think we're just a bunch of fanboys not even worth dealing with (ok, I'm exaggerating a bit). As for me, I chose to focus on actively looking for a solution rather than hoping for the best and linking my own future to a software's destiny. My whole working experience taught me how to be dynamic and adapt to my environment, so even if the whole industry had to stop, I won't need any planning, I'd be ready for that. We'll all be, I'm sure. Anyways, get used to it, every software dies at some point, better be ready sooner than later. I'm sure that you, like all the clever boys that we are on this mailing list, have already started to think on how to move on. And I know that it can be trickier for a company to move things around, but in the very worst case, Softimage will still work as it is and you're already rocking with it, so it's not too bad. On top of this, it sounds like we can now count on Fabric Engine to push things forward without having to ditch all our existing pipelines, so how could we not roll even more in the future? ;) On 8 August 2013 22:26, Gene Crucean emailgeneonthel...@gmail.com wrote: Ignorance is bliss isn't it Christopher? I don't know about you but I like planning for my future. On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 10:43 AM, Christopher Crouzet christopher.crou...@gmail.com wrote: How about you guys click on the Softimage icon from your desktop and do your magic instead of wasting your time whining about some marketing bullshit? ;) On 8 August 2013 19:29, Stephen Davidson magic...@bellsouth.net wrote: to take it one step further If you click on the Maya link, and then click on products at the top of the page, Softimage is not listed. I think they are pushing people to the Suite, but that is unclear. On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 12:41 PM, Rares Halmagean ra...@rarebrush.comwrote: Wow. Just wow. So anyone interested in checking out softimage and does a quick search would get a diversion like this from AD. Very telling. On 8/8/2013 11:35 AM, Mirko Jankovic wrote: Autodesk Softimage visual effects and 3D game development software enables artists to create stunning character animation and visual effects. Yes game development and they haven;t even try to make good connection to most popular game engines as well But they trying so hard to kill SI and it still doesn;t help says something how good actualy itis, after all updates given to Maya and still hard to push people from SI to it.. he On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 6:33 PM, Angus Davidson angus.david...@wits.ac.za wrote: For those of us who dont seem to get the paid results could you copy and paste ? ;) -- *From:* Stephen Davidson [magic...@bellsouth.net] *Sent:* 08 August 2013 06:20 PM *To:* softimage@listproc.autodesk.com *Subject:* Re: Why did I pay support?? Why did I buy a suite ? I want my moneyback! I think I can shed light on where Autodesk is going, as far as Softimage is concerned. Go to Google and search for Autodesk Softimage. What is the first paid search result? This is the one that Autodesk marketing paid Google money to display. There is your answer. On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 10:51 AM, Steffen Dünner steffen.duen...@gmail.com wrote: 2013/8/8 Eugen Sares sof...@mail.sprit.org Wait, wasn't there a 3rd 3D application among those? Yes, this: http://area.autodesk.com/products/features/extensionmudbox :( Cheers Steffen -- PGP-ID(RSA): 0xD6E0CE93 Fingerprint: 879F 572C FEE4 9DE5 53A8 3C1C 22A9 C8DE D6E0 CE93 -- Best Regards, * Stephen P. Davidson** **(954) 552-7956 *sdavid...@3danimationmagic.com *Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic * - Arthur C. Clarke http://www.3danimationmagic.com This communication is intended for the addressee only. It is confidential. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately and destroy the original message. You may not copy or disseminate this communication without the permission of the University. Only authorised signatories are competent to enter into agreements on behalf of the University and recipients are thus advised that the content of this message may not be legally binding on the University and may contain the personal views and opinions of the author, which
Re: Spherical Harmonics in ICE
Wow Vlad. Really impressive. Thanks for sharing. On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 3:52 PM, Vladimir Jankijevic vladi...@elefantstudios.ch wrote: Hey gang, I was diving into Spherical Harmonics the last few days and I wanted to share my results with you. I ended up with two custom ICE nodes to generate/evaluate Spherical Harmonic coefficients and learned a lot during this exercise. So in case anybody is interested please take a look: http://vimeo.com/71990801 on the vimeo page is a link to the scene and the source Cheers Vladimir
Re: Why did I pay support?? Why did I buy a suite ? I want my moneyback!
Yes, Fabric Engine is doing more for the survival of Softimage than most. But even they are looking to support other 3D apps, as they should, so it will not be something that will be a specific advantage to Softimage users. I am always testing the waters on newer, different software. It is just such a HUGE deal to learn a different platform, after you have felt comfortable with one for so long. I feel for the large houses. I am just a lowly single freelancer. Much easier for change, but still, no small matter.. The Google Ads was not a conspiracy theory, just an observation. Autodesk paid for that ad placement, so they are responsible for it. Google did not do this randomly. So, Christopher, what do you see as a future solution to our industry? Microsoft keeps try to sell me Windows 8. Somehow I don't see myself animating on a touch-pad. BUT...you never know! ;) ... if someone could come out with a touch-pad, large, and with a pressure sensitive pen ... On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 5:41 PM, Christopher Crouzet christopher.crou...@gmail.com wrote: It's not about ignorance. With all my respect, as everyone I'm not so happy to see how things have been going since Autodesk took over Softimage, but do you think that talking on a mailing-list about Google Ads and relating each little marketing glitch in order to elaborate a conspiracy theory will help at all? If it actually does something, I bet it's probably pissing off the remaining devs trying their best to save things with their means and it must help the marketing guys to think we're just a bunch of fanboys not even worth dealing with (ok, I'm exaggerating a bit). As for me, I chose to focus on actively looking for a solution rather than hoping for the best and linking my own future to a software's destiny. My whole working experience taught me how to be dynamic and adapt to my environment, so even if the whole industry had to stop, I won't need any planning, I'd be ready for that. We'll all be, I'm sure. Anyways, get used to it, every software dies at some point, better be ready sooner than later. I'm sure that you, like all the clever boys that we are on this mailing list, have already started to think on how to move on. And I know that it can be trickier for a company to move things around, but in the very worst case, Softimage will still work as it is and you're already rocking with it, so it's not too bad. On top of this, it sounds like we can now count on Fabric Engine to push things forward without having to ditch all our existing pipelines, so how could we not roll even more in the future? ;) On 8 August 2013 22:26, Gene Crucean emailgeneonthel...@gmail.com wrote: Ignorance is bliss isn't it Christopher? I don't know about you but I like planning for my future. On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 10:43 AM, Christopher Crouzet christopher.crou...@gmail.com wrote: How about you guys click on the Softimage icon from your desktop and do your magic instead of wasting your time whining about some marketing bullshit? ;) On 8 August 2013 19:29, Stephen Davidson magic...@bellsouth.net wrote: to take it one step further If you click on the Maya link, and then click on products at the top of the page, Softimage is not listed. I think they are pushing people to the Suite, but that is unclear. On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 12:41 PM, Rares Halmagean ra...@rarebrush.comwrote: Wow. Just wow. So anyone interested in checking out softimage and does a quick search would get a diversion like this from AD. Very telling. On 8/8/2013 11:35 AM, Mirko Jankovic wrote: Autodesk Softimage visual effects and 3D game development software enables artists to create stunning character animation and visual effects. Yes game development and they haven;t even try to make good connection to most popular game engines as well But they trying so hard to kill SI and it still doesn;t help says something how good actualy itis, after all updates given to Maya and still hard to push people from SI to it.. he On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 6:33 PM, Angus Davidson angus.david...@wits.ac.za wrote: For those of us who dont seem to get the paid results could you copy and paste ? ;) -- *From:* Stephen Davidson [magic...@bellsouth.net] *Sent:* 08 August 2013 06:20 PM *To:* softimage@listproc.autodesk.com *Subject:* Re: Why did I pay support?? Why did I buy a suite ? I want my moneyback! I think I can shed light on where Autodesk is going, as far as Softimage is concerned. Go to Google and search for Autodesk Softimage. What is the first paid search result? This is the one that Autodesk marketing paid Google money to display. There is your answer. On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 10:51 AM, Steffen Dünner steffen.duen...@gmail.com wrote: 2013/8/8 Eugen Sares sof...@mail.sprit.org Wait, wasn't there a 3rd 3D application among those? Yes, this:
Re: Why did I pay support?? Why did I buy a suite ? I want my moneyback!
* The Google Ads was not a conspiracy theory, just an observation.* * Autodesk paid for that ad placement, so they are responsible for it.* * Google did not do this randomly.* Do a search for autodesk autocad... oh no, it promotes Maya too! Watch out, CAD folks! :p Also odd is autodesk mental ray promotes 3dsmax 2014. On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 6:08 PM, Stephen Davidson magic...@bellsouth.netwrote: Yes, Fabric Engine is doing more for the survival of Softimage than most. But even they are looking to support other 3D apps, as they should, so it will not be something that will be a specific advantage to Softimage users. I am always testing the waters on newer, different software. It is just such a HUGE deal to learn a different platform, after you have felt comfortable with one for so long. I feel for the large houses. I am just a lowly single freelancer. Much easier for change, but still, no small matter.. The Google Ads was not a conspiracy theory, just an observation. Autodesk paid for that ad placement, so they are responsible for it. Google did not do this randomly. So, Christopher, what do you see as a future solution to our industry? Microsoft keeps try to sell me Windows 8. Somehow I don't see myself animating on a touch-pad. BUT...you never know! ;) ... if someone could come out with a touch-pad, large, and with a pressure sensitive pen ... On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 5:41 PM, Christopher Crouzet christopher.crou...@gmail.com wrote: It's not about ignorance. With all my respect, as everyone I'm not so happy to see how things have been going since Autodesk took over Softimage, but do you think that talking on a mailing-list about Google Ads and relating each little marketing glitch in order to elaborate a conspiracy theory will help at all? If it actually does something, I bet it's probably pissing off the remaining devs trying their best to save things with their means and it must help the marketing guys to think we're just a bunch of fanboys not even worth dealing with (ok, I'm exaggerating a bit). As for me, I chose to focus on actively looking for a solution rather than hoping for the best and linking my own future to a software's destiny. My whole working experience taught me how to be dynamic and adapt to my environment, so even if the whole industry had to stop, I won't need any planning, I'd be ready for that. We'll all be, I'm sure. Anyways, get used to it, every software dies at some point, better be ready sooner than later. I'm sure that you, like all the clever boys that we are on this mailing list, have already started to think on how to move on. And I know that it can be trickier for a company to move things around, but in the very worst case, Softimage will still work as it is and you're already rocking with it, so it's not too bad. On top of this, it sounds like we can now count on Fabric Engine to push things forward without having to ditch all our existing pipelines, so how could we not roll even more in the future? ;) On 8 August 2013 22:26, Gene Crucean emailgeneonthel...@gmail.comwrote: Ignorance is bliss isn't it Christopher? I don't know about you but I like planning for my future. On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 10:43 AM, Christopher Crouzet christopher.crou...@gmail.com wrote: How about you guys click on the Softimage icon from your desktop and do your magic instead of wasting your time whining about some marketing bullshit? ;) On 8 August 2013 19:29, Stephen Davidson magic...@bellsouth.netwrote: to take it one step further If you click on the Maya link, and then click on products at the top of the page, Softimage is not listed. I think they are pushing people to the Suite, but that is unclear. On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 12:41 PM, Rares Halmagean ra...@rarebrush.comwrote: Wow. Just wow. So anyone interested in checking out softimage and does a quick search would get a diversion like this from AD. Very telling. On 8/8/2013 11:35 AM, Mirko Jankovic wrote: Autodesk Softimage visual effects and 3D game development software enables artists to create stunning character animation and visual effects. Yes game development and they haven;t even try to make good connection to most popular game engines as well But they trying so hard to kill SI and it still doesn;t help says something how good actualy itis, after all updates given to Maya and still hard to push people from SI to it.. he On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 6:33 PM, Angus Davidson angus.david...@wits.ac.za wrote: For those of us who dont seem to get the paid results could you copy and paste ? ;) -- *From:* Stephen Davidson [magic...@bellsouth.net] *Sent:* 08 August 2013 06:20 PM *To:* softimage@listproc.autodesk.com *Subject:* Re: Why did I pay support?? Why did I buy a suite ? I want my moneyback! I think I can shed light on where Autodesk is going, as far as Softimage is concerned.
Re: Why did I pay support?? Why did I buy a suite ? I want my moneyback!
Why does it need to be a specific advantage vs a general one? On 8 August 2013 18:08, Stephen Davidson magic...@bellsouth.net wrote: Yes, Fabric Engine is doing more for the survival of Softimage than most. But even they are looking to support other 3D apps, as they should, so it will not be something that will be a specific advantage to Softimage users. I am always testing the waters on newer, different software. It is just such a HUGE deal to learn a different platform, after you have felt comfortable with one for so long. I feel for the large houses. I am just a lowly single freelancer. Much easier for change, but still, no small matter.. The Google Ads was not a conspiracy theory, just an observation. Autodesk paid for that ad placement, so they are responsible for it. Google did not do this randomly. So, Christopher, what do you see as a future solution to our industry? Microsoft keeps try to sell me Windows 8. Somehow I don't see myself animating on a touch-pad. BUT...you never know! ;) ... if someone could come out with a touch-pad, large, and with a pressure sensitive pen ... On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 5:41 PM, Christopher Crouzet christopher.crou...@gmail.com wrote: It's not about ignorance. With all my respect, as everyone I'm not so happy to see how things have been going since Autodesk took over Softimage, but do you think that talking on a mailing-list about Google Ads and relating each little marketing glitch in order to elaborate a conspiracy theory will help at all? If it actually does something, I bet it's probably pissing off the remaining devs trying their best to save things with their means and it must help the marketing guys to think we're just a bunch of fanboys not even worth dealing with (ok, I'm exaggerating a bit). As for me, I chose to focus on actively looking for a solution rather than hoping for the best and linking my own future to a software's destiny. My whole working experience taught me how to be dynamic and adapt to my environment, so even if the whole industry had to stop, I won't need any planning, I'd be ready for that. We'll all be, I'm sure. Anyways, get used to it, every software dies at some point, better be ready sooner than later. I'm sure that you, like all the clever boys that we are on this mailing list, have already started to think on how to move on. And I know that it can be trickier for a company to move things around, but in the very worst case, Softimage will still work as it is and you're already rocking with it, so it's not too bad. On top of this, it sounds like we can now count on Fabric Engine to push things forward without having to ditch all our existing pipelines, so how could we not roll even more in the future? ;) On 8 August 2013 22:26, Gene Crucean emailgeneonthel...@gmail.comwrote: Ignorance is bliss isn't it Christopher? I don't know about you but I like planning for my future. On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 10:43 AM, Christopher Crouzet christopher.crou...@gmail.com wrote: How about you guys click on the Softimage icon from your desktop and do your magic instead of wasting your time whining about some marketing bullshit? ;) On 8 August 2013 19:29, Stephen Davidson magic...@bellsouth.netwrote: to take it one step further If you click on the Maya link, and then click on products at the top of the page, Softimage is not listed. I think they are pushing people to the Suite, but that is unclear. On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 12:41 PM, Rares Halmagean ra...@rarebrush.comwrote: Wow. Just wow. So anyone interested in checking out softimage and does a quick search would get a diversion like this from AD. Very telling. On 8/8/2013 11:35 AM, Mirko Jankovic wrote: Autodesk Softimage visual effects and 3D game development software enables artists to create stunning character animation and visual effects. Yes game development and they haven;t even try to make good connection to most popular game engines as well But they trying so hard to kill SI and it still doesn;t help says something how good actualy itis, after all updates given to Maya and still hard to push people from SI to it.. he On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 6:33 PM, Angus Davidson angus.david...@wits.ac.za wrote: For those of us who dont seem to get the paid results could you copy and paste ? ;) -- *From:* Stephen Davidson [magic...@bellsouth.net] *Sent:* 08 August 2013 06:20 PM *To:* softimage@listproc.autodesk.com *Subject:* Re: Why did I pay support?? Why did I buy a suite ? I want my moneyback! I think I can shed light on where Autodesk is going, as far as Softimage is concerned. Go to Google and search for Autodesk Softimage. What is the first paid search result? This is the one that Autodesk marketing paid Google money to display. There is your answer. On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 10:51 AM, Steffen Dünner steffen.duen...@gmail.com wrote:
RE: Spherical Harmonics in ICE
Really nice! Vince Baertsoen co-head of CG The Mill NY Ext.: 2311 www.themill.com From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] on behalf of Vladimir Jankijevic [vladi...@elefantstudios.ch] Sent: Thursday, August 08, 2013 3:52 PM To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: Spherical Harmonics in ICE Hey gang, I was diving into Spherical Harmonics the last few days and I wanted to share my results with you. I ended up with two custom ICE nodes to generate/evaluate Spherical Harmonic coefficients and learned a lot during this exercise. So in case anybody is interested please take a look: http://vimeo.com/71990801 on the vimeo page is a link to the scene and the source Cheers Vladimir
Re: Why did I pay support?? Why did I buy a suite ? I want my moneyback!
Apart of saying that we've got the biggest, does it really matter that Fabric Engine doesn't favor Softimage or any specific app at all? Knowing that I can code high performance stuff in Fabric and that I can use it in whatever 3D softwares still alive at a certain time sounds pretty neat to me as it is. As for the future, sorry but I don't own a crystal ball _yet_! I'm living in the present and take things as they come, ready to react... for now, I thought that it would be a pretty good time to have a break from that industry and so far I'm enjoying the view, maybe you guys should do the same instead of stressing out! :) Btw, do you guys know the algorithm behind the Google Ads? Because you know, it could potentially return an ad even though you search for Autodesk in my pants. On 9 August 2013 00:08, Stephen Davidson magic...@bellsouth.net wrote: Yes, Fabric Engine is doing more for the survival of Softimage than most. But even they are looking to support other 3D apps, as they should, so it will not be something that will be a specific advantage to Softimage users. I am always testing the waters on newer, different software. It is just such a HUGE deal to learn a different platform, after you have felt comfortable with one for so long. I feel for the large houses. I am just a lowly single freelancer. Much easier for change, but still, no small matter.. The Google Ads was not a conspiracy theory, just an observation. Autodesk paid for that ad placement, so they are responsible for it. Google did not do this randomly. So, Christopher, what do you see as a future solution to our industry? Microsoft keeps try to sell me Windows 8. Somehow I don't see myself animating on a touch-pad. BUT...you never know! ;) ... if someone could come out with a touch-pad, large, and with a pressure sensitive pen ... On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 5:41 PM, Christopher Crouzet christopher.crou...@gmail.com wrote: It's not about ignorance. With all my respect, as everyone I'm not so happy to see how things have been going since Autodesk took over Softimage, but do you think that talking on a mailing-list about Google Ads and relating each little marketing glitch in order to elaborate a conspiracy theory will help at all? If it actually does something, I bet it's probably pissing off the remaining devs trying their best to save things with their means and it must help the marketing guys to think we're just a bunch of fanboys not even worth dealing with (ok, I'm exaggerating a bit). As for me, I chose to focus on actively looking for a solution rather than hoping for the best and linking my own future to a software's destiny. My whole working experience taught me how to be dynamic and adapt to my environment, so even if the whole industry had to stop, I won't need any planning, I'd be ready for that. We'll all be, I'm sure. Anyways, get used to it, every software dies at some point, better be ready sooner than later. I'm sure that you, like all the clever boys that we are on this mailing list, have already started to think on how to move on. And I know that it can be trickier for a company to move things around, but in the very worst case, Softimage will still work as it is and you're already rocking with it, so it's not too bad. On top of this, it sounds like we can now count on Fabric Engine to push things forward without having to ditch all our existing pipelines, so how could we not roll even more in the future? ;) On 8 August 2013 22:26, Gene Crucean emailgeneonthel...@gmail.comwrote: Ignorance is bliss isn't it Christopher? I don't know about you but I like planning for my future. On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 10:43 AM, Christopher Crouzet christopher.crou...@gmail.com wrote: How about you guys click on the Softimage icon from your desktop and do your magic instead of wasting your time whining about some marketing bullshit? ;) On 8 August 2013 19:29, Stephen Davidson magic...@bellsouth.netwrote: to take it one step further If you click on the Maya link, and then click on products at the top of the page, Softimage is not listed. I think they are pushing people to the Suite, but that is unclear. On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 12:41 PM, Rares Halmagean ra...@rarebrush.comwrote: Wow. Just wow. So anyone interested in checking out softimage and does a quick search would get a diversion like this from AD. Very telling. On 8/8/2013 11:35 AM, Mirko Jankovic wrote: Autodesk Softimage visual effects and 3D game development software enables artists to create stunning character animation and visual effects. Yes game development and they haven;t even try to make good connection to most popular game engines as well But they trying so hard to kill SI and it still doesn;t help says something how good actualy itis, after all updates given to Maya and still hard to push people from SI to it.. he On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 6:33 PM, Angus Davidson
Re: Why did I pay support?? Why did I buy a suite ? I want my moneyback!
Houdini is a very, very serious alternative that, if invested in, can make a gimongous difference in a number of stretches of the pipe. Modo I can't really say I see as a competitor, it barely covers spots if you make movies or games. The problem is that literally NOTHING out there will cover the stretch of assembly rigging animation caching efficiently and in one go except Maya or Soft. No, not even Houdini. We struggle enough as is, as a subset of disciplines, with software, performance and dedicated efforts with apps that have a long heritage of catering to that stretch. Moving to an app (Houdini) which one simply cannot squeeze performance for a multi-thousand nodes graph out of, and with a pool of animators close to zero, and which requires considerable training efforts is, sadly, not an option. It has brilliance that would save piles of cash in many places (digital assets and all), but it's simply never had a real userbase or any continued effort on the animation side of things. They rarely picked up that ball, and when they did they soon dropped it. I still wish it had been Dassault Systemes back then buying Soft, or that they had listened to the part of the userbase that eight or nine years ago was shouting their throat raw for a proper lights off port to Qt and Boost Bindings. Sadly most of Soft back then was completely blind to how foresightful people like Alan Jones were (or even some of my pleas for all it matters), and even a good chunk of the community mistook it for some pointless Linux closet socialism initiative. Thanks to the impossible to eradicate persistency of gems such as mainwin and COM Soft had to be put to the side in this last major churn inside AD. If they are looking at the whole platform switch, and they would be insanely dumb if they weren't, Soft would simply turn out to be too much work at this point even if given a fair shot. The userbase itself and some most beloved figures of the past made unintentionally sure Soft would be backwards in many regards, and AD is unlikely to be the kind of company that rescues something for the sake of its elegance and dedicated user base. Which is sad, but is what this mostly boils down to. Had Soft two or three years ago been a stronger platform, even with less dressing and elegance painted on top, and had ICE not been so strongly tied to that underlying layer, chances are we'd all be singing a very different tune today. It wasn't, it isn't, and it doesn't have the ridiculous market stretch of MAX, so its future is uncertain. On Fri, Aug 9, 2013 at 7:19 AM, Jordi Bares jordiba...@gmail.com wrote: Funny enough I keep receiving tweets from Autodesk related to great work and articles done with… Softimage!!! amazing… I wish they sell the software to someone serious about it to rescue from its current state, it has been all downhill since Autodesk took over. Regarding the competitors, the only serious alternative right now is Houdini and although a step learning curve it is truly worth it. I want to see how Modo does but I am even more interested to what happens to The Foundry as a company as it is partially owned by an investor group that will surely sell soon to get there profits… :-P Let's see
RE: Why did I pay support?? Why did I buy a suite ? I want my moneyback!
Nope. I tried 'Autodesk Sucks' and got a facebook page instead. No ad. Matt From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Christopher Crouzet Sent: Thursday, August 08, 2013 3:34 PM To: Softimage Mailing List Subject: Re: Why did I pay support?? Why did I buy a suite ? I want my moneyback! Apart of saying that we've got the biggest, does it really matter that Fabric Engine doesn't favor Softimage or any specific app at all? Knowing that I can code high performance stuff in Fabric and that I can use it in whatever 3D softwares still alive at a certain time sounds pretty neat to me as it is. As for the future, sorry but I don't own a crystal ball _yet_! I'm living in the present and take things as they come, ready to react... for now, I thought that it would be a pretty good time to have a break from that industry and so far I'm enjoying the view, maybe you guys should do the same instead of stressing out! :) Btw, do you guys know the algorithm behind the Google Ads? Because you know, it could potentially return an ad even though you search for Autodesk in my pants. On 9 August 2013 00:08, Stephen Davidson magic...@bellsouth.netmailto:magic...@bellsouth.net wrote: Yes, Fabric Engine is doing more for the survival of Softimage than most. But even they are looking to support other 3D apps, as they should, so it will not be something that will be a specific advantage to Softimage users. I am always testing the waters on newer, different software. It is just such a HUGE deal to learn a different platform, after you have felt comfortable with one for so long. I feel for the large houses. I am just a lowly single freelancer. Much easier for change, but still, no small matter.. The Google Ads was not a conspiracy theory, just an observation. Autodesk paid for that ad placement, so they are responsible for it. Google did not do this randomly. So, Christopher, what do you see as a future solution to our industry? Microsoft keeps try to sell me Windows 8. Somehow I don't see myself animating on a touch-pad. BUT...you never know! ;) ... if someone could come out with a touch-pad, large, and with a pressure sensitive pen ... On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 5:41 PM, Christopher Crouzet christopher.crou...@gmail.commailto:christopher.crou...@gmail.com wrote: It's not about ignorance. With all my respect, as everyone I'm not so happy to see how things have been going since Autodesk took over Softimage, but do you think that talking on a mailing-list about Google Ads and relating each little marketing glitch in order to elaborate a conspiracy theory will help at all? If it actually does something, I bet it's probably pissing off the remaining devs trying their best to save things with their means and it must help the marketing guys to think we're just a bunch of fanboys not even worth dealing with (ok, I'm exaggerating a bit). As for me, I chose to focus on actively looking for a solution rather than hoping for the best and linking my own future to a software's destiny. My whole working experience taught me how to be dynamic and adapt to my environment, so even if the whole industry had to stop, I won't need any planning, I'd be ready for that. We'll all be, I'm sure. Anyways, get used to it, every software dies at some point, better be ready sooner than later. I'm sure that you, like all the clever boys that we are on this mailing list, have already started to think on how to move on. And I know that it can be trickier for a company to move things around, but in the very worst case, Softimage will still work as it is and you're already rocking with it, so it's not too bad. On top of this, it sounds like we can now count on Fabric Engine to push things forward without having to ditch all our existing pipelines, so how could we not roll even more in the future? ;) On 8 August 2013 22:26, Gene Crucean emailgeneonthel...@gmail.commailto:emailgeneonthel...@gmail.com wrote: Ignorance is bliss isn't it Christopher? I don't know about you but I like planning for my future. On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 10:43 AM, Christopher Crouzet christopher.crou...@gmail.commailto:christopher.crou...@gmail.com wrote: How about you guys click on the Softimage icon from your desktop and do your magic instead of wasting your time whining about some marketing bullshit? ;) On 8 August 2013 19:29, Stephen Davidson magic...@bellsouth.netmailto:magic...@bellsouth.net wrote: to take it one step further If you click on the Maya link, and then click on products at the top of the page, Softimage is not listed. I think they are pushing people to the Suite, but that is unclear. On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 12:41 PM, Rares Halmagean ra...@rarebrush.commailto:ra...@rarebrush.com wrote: Wow. Just wow. So anyone interested in checking out softimage and does a quick search would get a diversion like this from AD. Very telling. On 8/8/2013 11:35 AM,
Re: Why did I pay support?? Why did I buy a suite ? I want my moneyback!
I'm thinking that if we flood Google with Autodesk in my pants search queries, maybe it'll become the first autocomplete option when typing Autodesk. On 9 August 2013 00:36, Matt Lind ml...@carbinestudios.com wrote: Nope. ** ** I tried ‘Autodesk Sucks’ and got a facebook page instead. No ad. ** ** ** ** Matt ** ** ** ** ** ** *From:* softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] *On Behalf Of *Christopher Crouzet *Sent:* Thursday, August 08, 2013 3:34 PM *To:* Softimage Mailing List *Subject:* Re: Why did I pay support?? Why did I buy a suite ? I want my moneyback! ** ** Apart of saying that we've got the biggest, does it really matter that Fabric Engine doesn't favor Softimage or any specific app at all? Knowing that I can code high performance stuff in Fabric and that I can use it in whatever 3D softwares still alive at a certain time sounds pretty neat to me as it is. As for the future, sorry but I don't own a crystal ball _yet_! I'm living in the present and take things as they come, ready to react... for now, I thought that it would be a pretty good time to have a break from that industry and so far I'm enjoying the view, maybe you guys should do the same instead of stressing out! :) Btw, do you guys know the algorithm behind the Google Ads? Because you know, it could potentially return an ad even though you search for Autodesk in my pants. ** ** On 9 August 2013 00:08, Stephen Davidson magic...@bellsouth.net wrote:** ** Yes, Fabric Engine is doing more for the survival of Softimage than most.* *** But even they are looking to support other 3D apps, as they should, so it* *** will not be something that will be a specific advantage to Softimage users. ** ** I am always testing the waters on newer, different software. It is just such a HUGE deal to learn a different platform, after you have felt comfortable with one for so long. I feel for the large houses. I am just a lowly single freelancer. Much easier for change, but still, no small matter.. ** ** The Google Ads was not a conspiracy theory, just an observation. Autodesk paid for that ad placement, so they are responsible for it. Google did not do this randomly. ** ** So, Christopher, what do you see as a future solution to our industry? Microsoft keeps try to sell me Windows 8. Somehow I don't see myself animating on a touch-pad. BUT...you never know! ;) ** ** ... if someone could come out with a touch-pad, large, and with a pressure sensitive pen ... ** ** On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 5:41 PM, Christopher Crouzet christopher.crou...@gmail.com wrote: It's not about ignorance. With all my respect, as everyone I'm not so happy to see how things have been going since Autodesk took over Softimage, but do you think that talking on a mailing-list about Google Ads and relating each little marketing glitch in order to elaborate a conspiracy theory will help at all? If it actually does something, I bet it's probably pissing off the remaining devs trying their best to save things with their means and it must help the marketing guys to think we're just a bunch of fanboys not even worth dealing with (ok, I'm exaggerating a bit). As for me, I chose to focus on actively looking for a solution rather than hoping for the best and linking my own future to a software's destiny. My whole working experience taught me how to be dynamic and adapt to my environment, so even if the whole industry had to stop, I won't need any planning, I'd be ready for that. We'll all be, I'm sure. Anyways, get used to it, every software dies at some point, better be ready sooner than later. I'm sure that you, like all the clever boys that we are on this mailing list, have already started to think on how to move on. And I know that it can be trickier for a company to move things around, but in the very worst case, Softimage will still work as it is and you're already rocking with it, so it's not too bad. On top of this, it sounds like we can now count on Fabric Engine to push things forward without having to ditch all our existing pipelines, so how could we not roll even more in the future? ;) ** ** On 8 August 2013 22:26, Gene Crucean emailgeneonthel...@gmail.com wrote: Ignorance is bliss isn't it Christopher? I don't know about you but I like planning for my future. ** ** On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 10:43 AM, Christopher Crouzet christopher.crou...@gmail.com wrote: How about you guys click on the Softimage icon from your desktop and do your magic instead of wasting your time whining about some marketing bullshit? ;) ** ** On 8 August 2013 19:29, Stephen Davidson magic...@bellsouth.net wrote:** ** to take it one step further If you click on the Maya link, and then click on products at the top of
Re: Why did I pay support?? Why did I buy a suite ? I want my moneyback!
autodesk SMB club points to some old prototyping page. If that doesn't mean all the fun and the resources are in CAM/CAE I don't know what would. On Fri, Aug 9, 2013 at 8:39 AM, Christopher Crouzet christopher.crou...@gmail.com wrote: I'm thinking that if we flood Google with Autodesk in my pants search queries, maybe it'll become the first autocomplete option when typing Autodesk. On 9 August 2013 00:36, Matt Lind ml...@carbinestudios.com wrote: Nope. ** ** I tried ‘Autodesk Sucks’ and got a facebook page instead. No ad. ** ** ** ** Matt ** ** ** ** ** ** *From:* softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] *On Behalf Of *Christopher Crouzet *Sent:* Thursday, August 08, 2013 3:34 PM *To:* Softimage Mailing List *Subject:* Re: Why did I pay support?? Why did I buy a suite ? I want my moneyback! ** ** Apart of saying that we've got the biggest, does it really matter that Fabric Engine doesn't favor Softimage or any specific app at all? Knowing that I can code high performance stuff in Fabric and that I can use it in whatever 3D softwares still alive at a certain time sounds pretty neat to me as it is. As for the future, sorry but I don't own a crystal ball _yet_! I'm living in the present and take things as they come, ready to react... for now, I thought that it would be a pretty good time to have a break from that industry and so far I'm enjoying the view, maybe you guys should do the same instead of stressing out! :) Btw, do you guys know the algorithm behind the Google Ads? Because you know, it could potentially return an ad even though you search for Autodesk in my pants. ** ** On 9 August 2013 00:08, Stephen Davidson magic...@bellsouth.net wrote:* *** Yes, Fabric Engine is doing more for the survival of Softimage than most. But even they are looking to support other 3D apps, as they should, so it will not be something that will be a specific advantage to Softimage users. ** ** I am always testing the waters on newer, different software. It is just such a HUGE deal to learn a different platform, after you have felt comfortable with one for so long. I feel for the large houses. I am just a lowly single freelancer. Much easier for change, but still, no small matter.. ** ** The Google Ads was not a conspiracy theory, just an observation. Autodesk paid for that ad placement, so they are responsible for it. Google did not do this randomly. ** ** So, Christopher, what do you see as a future solution to our industry?*** * Microsoft keeps try to sell me Windows 8. Somehow I don't see myself animating on a touch-pad. BUT...you never know! ;) ** ** ... if someone could come out with a touch-pad, large, and with a pressure sensitive pen ... ** ** On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 5:41 PM, Christopher Crouzet christopher.crou...@gmail.com wrote: It's not about ignorance. With all my respect, as everyone I'm not so happy to see how things have been going since Autodesk took over Softimage, but do you think that talking on a mailing-list about Google Ads and relating each little marketing glitch in order to elaborate a conspiracy theory will help at all? If it actually does something, I bet it's probably pissing off the remaining devs trying their best to save things with their means and it must help the marketing guys to think we're just a bunch of fanboys not even worth dealing with (ok, I'm exaggerating a bit). As for me, I chose to focus on actively looking for a solution rather than hoping for the best and linking my own future to a software's destiny. My whole working experience taught me how to be dynamic and adapt to my environment, so even if the whole industry had to stop, I won't need any planning, I'd be ready for that. We'll all be, I'm sure. Anyways, get used to it, every software dies at some point, better be ready sooner than later. I'm sure that you, like all the clever boys that we are on this mailing list, have already started to think on how to move on. And I know that it can be trickier for a company to move things around, but in the very worst case, Softimage will still work as it is and you're already rocking with it, so it's not too bad. On top of this, it sounds like we can now count on Fabric Engine to push things forward without having to ditch all our existing pipelines, so how could we not roll even more in the future? ;) ** ** On 8 August 2013 22:26, Gene Crucean emailgeneonthel...@gmail.com wrote: Ignorance is bliss isn't it Christopher? I don't know about you but I like planning for my future. ** ** On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 10:43 AM, Christopher Crouzet christopher.crou...@gmail.com wrote: How about you guys click on the Softimage icon from your desktop and do your magic instead of wasting your time
Re: Why did I pay support?? Why did I buy a suite ? I want my moneyback!
Depends on which end you view the advantage from The general industry, or the specific artist or agency that is trying to win clients. It is just nice to have exclusive tools for particular apps, as far as selling animation services to a client goes. As far as the industry as a whole, it is good for all. Just being selfish. :) You do know that all our clients think that all this software runs itself. ;) On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 6:29 PM, Paul Doyle technove...@gmail.com wrote: Why does it need to be a specific advantage vs a general one? On 8 August 2013 18:08, Stephen Davidson magic...@bellsouth.net wrote: Yes, Fabric Engine is doing more for the survival of Softimage than most. But even they are looking to support other 3D apps, as they should, so it will not be something that will be a specific advantage to Softimage users. I am always testing the waters on newer, different software. It is just such a HUGE deal to learn a different platform, after you have felt comfortable with one for so long. I feel for the large houses. I am just a lowly single freelancer. Much easier for change, but still, no small matter.. The Google Ads was not a conspiracy theory, just an observation. Autodesk paid for that ad placement, so they are responsible for it. Google did not do this randomly. So, Christopher, what do you see as a future solution to our industry? Microsoft keeps try to sell me Windows 8. Somehow I don't see myself animating on a touch-pad. BUT...you never know! ;) ... if someone could come out with a touch-pad, large, and with a pressure sensitive pen ... On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 5:41 PM, Christopher Crouzet christopher.crou...@gmail.com wrote: It's not about ignorance. With all my respect, as everyone I'm not so happy to see how things have been going since Autodesk took over Softimage, but do you think that talking on a mailing-list about Google Ads and relating each little marketing glitch in order to elaborate a conspiracy theory will help at all? If it actually does something, I bet it's probably pissing off the remaining devs trying their best to save things with their means and it must help the marketing guys to think we're just a bunch of fanboys not even worth dealing with (ok, I'm exaggerating a bit). As for me, I chose to focus on actively looking for a solution rather than hoping for the best and linking my own future to a software's destiny. My whole working experience taught me how to be dynamic and adapt to my environment, so even if the whole industry had to stop, I won't need any planning, I'd be ready for that. We'll all be, I'm sure. Anyways, get used to it, every software dies at some point, better be ready sooner than later. I'm sure that you, like all the clever boys that we are on this mailing list, have already started to think on how to move on. And I know that it can be trickier for a company to move things around, but in the very worst case, Softimage will still work as it is and you're already rocking with it, so it's not too bad. On top of this, it sounds like we can now count on Fabric Engine to push things forward without having to ditch all our existing pipelines, so how could we not roll even more in the future? ;) On 8 August 2013 22:26, Gene Crucean emailgeneonthel...@gmail.comwrote: Ignorance is bliss isn't it Christopher? I don't know about you but I like planning for my future. On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 10:43 AM, Christopher Crouzet christopher.crou...@gmail.com wrote: How about you guys click on the Softimage icon from your desktop and do your magic instead of wasting your time whining about some marketing bullshit? ;) On 8 August 2013 19:29, Stephen Davidson magic...@bellsouth.netwrote: to take it one step further If you click on the Maya link, and then click on products at the top of the page, Softimage is not listed. I think they are pushing people to the Suite, but that is unclear. On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 12:41 PM, Rares Halmagean ra...@rarebrush.com wrote: Wow. Just wow. So anyone interested in checking out softimage and does a quick search would get a diversion like this from AD. Very telling. On 8/8/2013 11:35 AM, Mirko Jankovic wrote: Autodesk Softimage visual effects and 3D game development software enables artists to create stunning character animation and visual effects. Yes game development and they haven;t even try to make good connection to most popular game engines as well But they trying so hard to kill SI and it still doesn;t help says something how good actualy itis, after all updates given to Maya and still hard to push people from SI to it.. he On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 6:33 PM, Angus Davidson angus.david...@wits.ac.za wrote: For those of us who dont seem to get the paid results could you copy and paste ? ;) -- *From:* Stephen Davidson [magic...@bellsouth.net] *Sent:* 08 August 2013
Maya Xgen
So finally, this is how it look like: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uPZvG5H8MoY The funny thing is it's not that far from what we can do in ICE, actually I made a set of compound that can do pretty much the same thing: https://vimeo.com/19323411 It's just missing the vector paint tool(on my TODO list), a better viewportintegration, and a nice caned UI, which is problematic with ICE. --- Ahmidou Lyazidi Director | TD | CG artist http://vimeo.com/ahmidou/videos http://www.cappuccino-films.com
Re: Maya Xgen
wow... that's very nice... Actually it's so jealous... graphically cool hair interface + control tool, and awesome high quality view... Daniel On Fri, Aug 9, 2013 at 1:01 PM, Ahmidou Lyazidi ahmidou@gmail.comwrote: So finally, this is how it look like: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uPZvG5H8MoY The funny thing is it's not that far from what we can do in ICE, actually I made a set of compound that can do pretty much the same thing: https://vimeo.com/19323411 It's just missing the vector paint tool(on my TODO list), a better viewport integration, and a nice caned UI, which is problematic with ICE. --- Ahmidou Lyazidi Director | TD | CG artist http://vimeo.com/ahmidou/videos http://www.cappuccino-films.com -- --- Daniel Kim Animation Director Professional 3D Generalist http://www.danielkim3d.com ---
Re: [OT] Another one bites the dust...DS is EOL.
So looks like I spoke to soon lol ..after a decade+, DS is still (not so minimally) supported, (DS V11 Features http://www.avid.com/US/products/avid-ds/Features) while the few DS users (far fewer than SI) have been complaining about exposure and anticipating the end since Day 1 of the 'not so new anymore' regime. So the trick to kill software, (without looking too bad doing something hard to not qualify as just plain *wrong*) .. is to buy it, let it linger for a bit, while periodically introducing new features (enough to say that it's still developed) Then say hey Look! it's not as popular as some of our other (infinitely more advertised) products (hum wonder why!) so eh! EOL I think Avid may have chosen AD among a number of other buyers, just so they could feel better about themselves having done the very exact same thing. (given how blatantly obvious the reasons for the purchase was) Yep that's pretty disgusting.. Hope Avid feels better now (sigh) _ *From DS Forum: * ** *-* *From:* *John Heiser* ... I do hope your obit will properly portray this community as passionate and professional. It would be easy to descend into flaming and bashing, and while Avid's action/inaction may justify that sometimes, overall we're a respectful group who just feels like our passion for and devotion to DS have been underappreciated and ignored. Thanks, Barry,. *- *Tony Q-J 7:26 AM (15 hours ago) Other recipients: It's also important that it's understood that the passion comes from being so impressed with an all-encompassing bit of software. Not because we're a bunch of looneys! T :) *- *Declan MacErlane 4:46 PM (6 hours ago) Other recipients: +1 On Fri, Aug 9, 2013 at 2:57 AM, Ken Sirulnick kenn...@glueedit.comjavascript: wrote: +1 On Thursday, August 8, 2013 12:47:20 PM UTC-4, Sean B wrote: +1 And speak for yourself Tony. Some of us are happy to be looney :) ** ** * _ * *From Avid press release :* Q: What is Avid’s plan for existing DS customers? A: To leverage the worlds #1 editor (*Media Composer*) with a complete suite of production tools that empower you to create, deliver, and collaborate, Avid has worked with our partner eyeon Softwarehttp://www.eyeonline.com/index.htmlto secure an exclusive promotional offer on eyeon products, available only to Avid DS customers. DS owners will get special promotional pricing for Fusionhttp://www.eyeonline.com/Fusion.html, Dimension http://www.eyeonline.com/Dimension.html and Generationhttp://www.eyeonline.com/Generation.html *(including Fusion to compensate for the fact that MC is nothing like DS)* at a combined price of just $1,250 US MSRP – that’s more than a 50% savings. *Wow what a deal!* *Maybe we'll get a discount on 3DSM (or Maya) with plugins to compensate for the fact it's not (at all) like SI once AD would say Eh! ..* On Tue, Aug 6, 2013 at 2:37 PM, Raffaele Fragapane raffsxsil...@googlemail.com wrote: I'd agree in principle, but a jungle of software patents, code cross-pollination, and strong dependency on, and exposure of, company internals when one changes hand make it hard for some products to be shuffled around. IE: if they had to put DS up for sale, what happens to patented and shared high profile properties? What about an eventual, high performing propietary codec shared across products in example? (Something that in the past had set Avid apart for many years) You'd also open the doors to qualify software as a discrete commercial unit with identity, which is another legal jungle to navigate, and has just as many or more negative side effects for the software industry serving you as it has benefits for the user as a consumer with rights. They could also price it so ridiculously that it'd default to a kill. Unless you're also implying there should be a fair price scheme of sort, which is another thing that has more thorns than anybody wants to deal with. A company also happens to be awfully generic. Would this be corporate law for companies with stock, or would this apply to any software? If the latter how do you propose development done by individuals or garage operations is treated? Should there be a world software registry you need to join before you can distribute your software so it's all regulated? And what about the knee breaking hit to agility in that case? It's really not that simple :) On Wed, Aug 7, 2013 at 6:48 AM, Bk p...@bustykelp.com wrote: I think if a company wants to discontinue a product with a user-base that relies upon it then by law they should have to first offer it for sale. And only have the option of shelving it if there is shown no interest in it.
Re: [OT] Another one bites the dust...DS is EOL.
+1 On Tue, Aug 6, 2013 at 1:01 PM, Sebastien Sterling sebastien.sterl...@gmail.com wrote: buying competition for the purpose of shelving should be illegal, there should be a two year development proofing in which buyer must prove he has the DCC's best interest at hand. or the software should revert to the owner, or the government or, hell some organism. i don't think DCC's are dead in nowadays, i think it only looks that way cause AD killed them, kept the entire industry in a state of stagnation, nowadays sodding hamsters are getting multythreaded and half the shit in maya is still under 1998 protocols.:( On 6 August 2013 21:39, Paul Griswold pgrisw...@fusiondigitalproductions.com wrote: I think I remember Eric Goulette sent me a bunch of videos on Elastic Reality in XSI a long time ago. Avid had it sitting around eventually someone convinced them to include it in Softimage. I love the thought that Softimage is connected to the Amiga. Elastic Reality started out life as Morph Plus on the Amiga back when morphing was the rage. -Paul On Tue, Aug 6, 2013 at 3:26 PM, Stephen Davidson magic...@bellsouth.netwrote: I had no idea about Elastic Reality within FXTree. Thanks for pointing that out. Maybe that explains Avid's business model a little better. :) On Tue, Aug 6, 2013 at 12:59 PM, Alan Fregtman alan.fregt...@gmail.comwrote: Just FYI, Elastic Reality's tech (somewhat) lives on in Softimage as FXTree nodes... https://vimeo.com/65641320 On Tue, Aug 6, 2013 at 11:43 AM, Stephen Davidson magic...@bellsouth.net wrote: Avid has quite history of shelving products, that they buy. One only has to go to Wikipedia to see the long list of discontinued purchases: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avid_Technology I have been a victim of this odd business model with Matador(Media Illusion) and Elastic Reality. It just makes me think twice when faced with a possible Avid purchase. Well, I lie... I don't think I would ever think of a future Avid purchase. On Tue, Aug 6, 2013 at 10:34 AM, Luc-Eric Rousseau luceri...@gmail.com wrote: doomed from the start by its deep attachment to the Windows platform. On Tue, Aug 6, 2013 at 4:51 AM, Fabrice Altman fabr...@studioaka.co.uk wrote: I think Luc-Eric did ‘a bit of work’ on that as well. http://provideocoalition.com/ssimmons/story/it-looks-like-avid-is-finally-going-lay-ds-to-rest -- Best Regards, * Stephen P. Davidson** **(954) 552-7956 *sdavid...@3danimationmagic.com *Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic* - Arthur C. Clarke http://www.3danimationmagic.com -- Best Regards, * Stephen P. Davidson** **(954) 552-7956 *sdavid...@3danimationmagic.com *Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic* - Arthur C. Clarke http://www.3danimationmagic.com
Re: Maya Xgen
graphically cool hair interface + control tool, and awesome high quality view... and so slow that I hardly see you using it with full fancy view port stuff on when working :) and mscatter for ICE already do same thing for trees but faster... so they are just wasting dev time creating something that can already be done in SI oh well On Fri, Aug 9, 2013 at 3:05 AM, Daniel Kim danielki...@gmail.com wrote: wow... that's very nice... Actually it's so jealous... graphically cool hair interface + control tool, and awesome high quality view... Daniel On Fri, Aug 9, 2013 at 1:01 PM, Ahmidou Lyazidi ahmidou@gmail.comwrote: So finally, this is how it look like: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uPZvG5H8MoY The funny thing is it's not that far from what we can do in ICE, actually I made a set of compound that can do pretty much the same thing: https://vimeo.com/19323411 It's just missing the vector paint tool(on my TODO list), a better viewport integration, and a nice caned UI, which is problematic with ICE. --- Ahmidou Lyazidi Director | TD | CG artist http://vimeo.com/ahmidou/videos http://www.cappuccino-films.com -- --- Daniel Kim Animation Director Professional 3D Generalist http://www.danielkim3d.com ---
