subject:"RE\: Maya feature request from Softimage users"

How does the OpenSubDiv fit in there then?


Eric Thivierge
http://www.ethivierge.com


On Sat, Mar 8, 2014 at 4:24 PM, David Gallagher 
davegsoftimagel...@gmail.com wrote:


 Sadly true. And it causes endless problems with clusters and materials.

 However, if you use other renderers (not Maya renderer) you don't have to
 subdivide polys/smooth though. You just use the smooth preview (3 button)
 for viewport purposes.

 There are so many things that are absurdly substandard  compared with
 Softimage.

 Their subD modeling was bizarre. You had to convert the object to it. Then
 if you wanted to change topology, you had to convert back. It was crazy, so
 no one really used it (They did a few times at Blue Sky) . So it sounds
 like they dropped it.

Re: Maya feature request from Softimage users

2014-03-08 Thread Ahmidou Lyazidi

You can't compare maya and soft reder pass system, maya's one don't have
the partitions and override propagation system, which make almost useless.
Le 8 mars 2014 22:20, Cristobal Infante cgc...@gmail.com a écrit :

 Also render passes do exist they are just a bit different (though I've
 never worked with them)

 http://lesterbanks.com/2014/02/working-maya-render-layers-render-passes/






 On 8 March 2014 21:17, Greg Punchatz g...@janimation.com wrote:

 And, one of most important thing is, there is no *Subdivision* modeling
 in Maya. There used to be, but it's gone. They normally use *Smooth* to
 render... how ridiculous software is that...

 I have heard some crap about maya that blows my mind but I am pretty
 sure you are missing something.. otherwise there would be Maya users
 jumping off bridges everywherethey already cant edit in multi mode why
 would I do that?? I would just write a script to do it said the maya
 user...sigh

Re: Maya feature request from Softimage users

On Sat, Mar 8, 2014 at 4:28 PM, Ahmidou Lyazidi ahmidou@gmail.comwrote:

 You can't compare maya and soft reder pass system, maya's one don't have
 the partitions and override propagation system, which make almost useless.


Exactly correct. Maya doesn't really look like a solution for lighting /
rendering unless they scrap their system and implement something more
modern.


Eric Thivierge
http://www.ethivierge.com

Re: Maya feature request from Softimage users

2014-03-08 Thread Ahmidou Lyazidi

Also modeling in subd mode is prone to crashing a lot.
Le 8 mars 2014 22:25, David Gallagher davegsoftimagel...@gmail.com a
écrit :


 Sadly true. And it causes endless problems with clusters and materials.

 However, if you use other renderers (not Maya renderer) you don't have to
 subdivide polys/smooth though. You just use the smooth preview (3 button)
 for viewport purposes.

 There are so many things that are absurdly substandard  compared with
 Softimage.

 Their subD modeling was bizarre. You had to convert the object to it. Then
 if you wanted to change topology, you had to convert back. It was crazy, so
 no one really used it (They did a few times at Blue Sky) . So it sounds
 like they dropped it.

 On 3/8/2014 2:17 PM, Greg Punchatz wrote:

  And, one of most important thing is, there is no *Subdivision* modeling
 in Maya. There used to be, but it's gone. They normally use *Smooth* to
 render... how ridiculous software is that...

  I have heard some crap about maya that blows my mind but I am pretty
 sure you are missing something.. otherwise there would be Maya users
 jumping off bridges everywherethey already cant edit in multi mode why
 would I do that?? I would just write a script to do it said the maya
 user...sigh

Re: Maya feature request from Softimage users

2014-03-08 Thread Ahmidou Lyazidi

For now it's just an opengl shader plugin for realtime viewing. If your
renderer is also suporting it, then it's just interpreted like that.
Le 8 mars 2014 22:27, Eric Thivierge ethivie...@gmail.com a écrit :

 How does the OpenSubDiv fit in there then?

 
 Eric Thivierge
 http://www.ethivierge.com


 On Sat, Mar 8, 2014 at 4:24 PM, David Gallagher 
 davegsoftimagel...@gmail.com wrote:


 Sadly true. And it causes endless problems with clusters and materials.

 However, if you use other renderers (not Maya renderer) you don't have to
 subdivide polys/smooth though. You just use the smooth preview (3 button)
 for viewport purposes.

 There are so many things that are absurdly substandard  compared with
 Softimage.

 Their subD modeling was bizarre. You had to convert the object to it.
 Then if you wanted to change topology, you had to convert back. It was
 crazy, so no one really used it (They did a few times at Blue Sky) . So it
 sounds like they dropped it.

Re: Maya feature request from Softimage users

2014-03-08 Thread Greg Punchatz

Not even close that's all pre canned stuff from what I have seen...
nothing like the power of passes in xsi.. I can override ANYTHING in
soft... a material to an objects position in space.. I have had overides
that change characters into entire new ones with out referring to a single
new piece of geo... I simply have the pass drive shapes and map
choices...the list goes on.. and on and on

Re: Maya feature request from Softimage users

I can’t count the many many times overrides have cost me overtime and 
rerendering because of not working properly.

Andy

On Mar 08, 2014, at 23:02, Greg Punchatz g...@janimation.com wrote:

 I can override ANYTHING in soft... a material to an objects position in 
 space..

Re: Maya feature request from Softimage users

2014-03-08 Thread Tim Crowson


Not if you can script, I'm told.
-Tim

On 3/8/2014 4:20 PM, Cristobal Infante wrote:

are trimmed emails a Maya problem as well? ;)


On 8 March 2014 22:14, Tim Crowson tim.crow...@magneticdreams.com 
mailto:tim.crow...@magneticdreams.com wrote:


See the problem with trimmed emails is that you can't really tell
what someone is responding to.  I'm definitely in favor of at
least quoting the statements to which you're responding.

:-D




On 3/8/2014 4:02 PM, Greg Punchatz wrote:

Not even close that's all pre canned stuff from what I have
seen... nothing like the power of passes in xsi.. I can override
ANYTHING in soft... a material to an objects position in space..
I have had overides that change characters into entire new ones
with out referring to a single new piece of geo... I simply have
the pass drive shapes and map choices...the list goes on.. and on
and on




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Re: Maya feature request from Softimage users

2014-03-08 Thread Jonah Friedman

We have a rule based way of sorting partitions called the Sort
Controller, originally conceived by Andy Jones. It's been extremely
powerful.

You write your passes in a simple markup language in a PPG on the pass,
like this. Copy pasting from a real production scene I have open right now-

Background_Objects_Partition = *
characters = sg_character
set = sg_set
lighting_geo = sg_lighting_geo

l: Background_Lights_Partition = *
l: env = sg_lEnv
l: key = sg_lKey
l: rim = sg_lRim


What that does is puts objects in a group called sg_character into a
partition called characters. So each pass has a sort controller on it,
and the scene can stay sorted by managing the sort groups, called SG by
convention.

It's been extremely good to us. Other than that, passes and partitions do
their work exactly the way soft is supposed to, except that the partitions
are sorted by the Sort Controller.

Even our least technical lighters got used to it no problem, and it's
universally loved.




On Sat, Mar 8, 2014 at 5:30 PM, Andy Goehler
lists.andy.goeh...@gmail.comwrote:

 Thank you for saying that Eric. While Softs Passes/Partitions are still
 great and better than others out there, I feel the same way. Having to add
 yet another object to a partition in x amount of passes is something I've
 become to hate. Referencing of partitions/groups in passes would help,
 expression/rule based assignment, or yet a node based approach to passes.
 Wait what? :-)

 Andy



 On Mar 08, 2014, at 23:21, Eric Thivierge ethivie...@gmail.com wrote:

 I think we all need to be honest, there were concepts that were great
 about passes / partitions but there were some things that needed fixing
 (still do). We need something that isn't exactly like the pass / partition
 system. We need something better.

Re: Maya feature request from Softimage users

Thank you for saying that Eric. While Softs Passes/Partitions are still great 
and better than others out there, I feel the same way. Having to add yet 
another object to a partition in x amount of passes is something I’ve become to 
hate. Referencing of partitions/groups in passes would help, expression/rule 
based assignment, or yet a node based approach to passes. Wait what? :-)

Andy


On Mar 08, 2014, at 23:21, Eric Thivierge ethivie...@gmail.com wrote:

 I think we all need to be honest, there were concepts that were great about 
 passes / partitions but there were some things that needed fixing (still do). 
 We need something that isn't exactly like the pass / partition system. We 
 need something better.

Re: Maya feature request from Softimage users

2014-03-08 Thread Emilio Hernandez

Yes we need something better.  And Maya is not better.

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Re: Maya feature request from Softimage users

Sounds great. How does the “Sort Controller” update the pass? By callback upon 
switching to that pass or manually?

Andy

On Mar 08, 2014, at 23:35, Jonah Friedman jon...@gmail.com wrote:

 We have a rule based way of sorting partitions called the Sort Controller, 
 originally conceived by Andy Jones. It's been extremely powerful.
 
 You write your passes in a simple markup language in a PPG on the pass, like 
 this. Copy pasting from a real production scene I have open right now-
 
 Background_Objects_Partition = *
 characters = sg_character
 set = sg_set
 lighting_geo = sg_lighting_geo
 
 l: Background_Lights_Partition = *
 l: env = sg_lEnv
 l: key = sg_lKey
 l: rim = sg_lRim
 
 
 What that does is puts objects in a group called sg_character into a 
 partition called characters. So each pass has a sort controller on it, and 
 the scene can stay sorted by managing the sort groups, called SG by 
 convention. 
 
 It's been extremely good to us. Other than that, passes and partitions do 
 their work exactly the way soft is supposed to, except that the partitions 
 are sorted by the Sort Controller. 
 
 Even our least technical lighters got used to it no problem, and it's 
 universally loved.

Re: Maya feature request from Softimage users

On Mar 08, 2014, at 23:47, Jonah Friedman jon...@gmail.com wrote:
 You manually update them by hitting sort or sort all. Also have a check 
 function that checks to see if anything is unsorted and report what.
 
Sounds like something I’ll start implementing on Monday.

Thanks for the inspiration.

Andy

Re: Maya feature request from Softimage users

On Sat, Mar 8, 2014 at 5:29 PM, Jonah Friedman jon...@gmail.com wrote:

 Agreed, but that better thing is not what we find in Maya render layers.
 Render layers are clearly worse. I have no faith in AD's judgement about
 what is better though.


I hope you didn't take it as me being pro-maya render layers. They suck, no
way around it.


Eric Thivierge
http://www.ethivierge.com

Re: Maya feature request from Softimage users

On Sat, Mar 8, 2014 at 5:12 PM, Andy Goehler
lists.andy.goeh...@gmail.comwrote:

 I can't count the many many times overrides have cost me overtime and
 rerendering because of not working properly.


I think we all need to be honest, there were concepts that were great about
passes / partitions but there were some things that needed fixing (still
do). We need something that isn't exactly like the pass / partition system.
We need something better.


Eric Thivierge
http://www.ethivierge.com

Re: Maya feature request from Softimage users

2014-03-08 Thread Jonah Friedman

Agreed, but that better thing is not what we find in Maya render layers.
Render layers are clearly worse. I have no faith in AD's judgement about
what is better though.


On Sat, Mar 8, 2014 at 5:21 PM, Eric Thivierge ethivie...@gmail.com wrote:


 On Sat, Mar 8, 2014 at 5:12 PM, Andy Goehler lists.andy.goeh...@gmail.com
  wrote:

 I can't count the many many times overrides have cost me overtime and
 rerendering because of not working properly.


 I think we all need to be honest, there were concepts that were great
 about passes / partitions but there were some things that needed fixing
 (still do). We need something that isn't exactly like the pass / partition
 system. We need something better.


 
 Eric Thivierge
 http://www.ethivierge.com

Re: Maya feature request from Softimage users

2014-03-08 Thread Raffaele Fragapane

What? Eric, don't lie to people!
We had to listen to you saying how you wished Soft's passes were more like
Maya Render Layers for all your time here in AL, to the point our ears were
bleeding!


On Sun, Mar 9, 2014 at 10:03 AM, Eric Thivierge ethivie...@gmail.comwrote:


 On Sat, Mar 8, 2014 at 5:29 PM, Jonah Friedman jon...@gmail.com wrote:

 Agreed, but that better thing is not what we find in Maya render layers.
 Render layers are clearly worse. I have no faith in AD's judgement about
 what is better though.


 I hope you didn't take it as me being pro-maya render layers. They suck,
 no way around it.


 
 Eric Thivierge
 http://www.ethivierge.com




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Re: Maya feature request from Softimage users

2014-03-08 Thread Daniel Kim

And another ridiculous thing is, Maya added 'Modeling Took Kit'.
It is like a simplified way to model, but it's working like a module. If
someone else have done modeling in Maya, it is too slow process. There are
no simple and easy ways to change manipulate to local, global, normal mode
like SI. Maya 2014 has it now, but it's added as a module...
That's sick. It's containing like a plugin... I see Maya looks like somehow
3DMax...


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On Sun, Mar 9, 2014 at 11:51 AM, Daniel Kim danielki...@gmail.com wrote:

 Maya has pass render and partition of course, but because of its complex
 system, it's kinda useless. It's not easy like Softimage. And you guys will
 find that announcement of Subdivision is not on menu anymore on Maya 2014.
 So, basically, you have to use that 15 years old method 'Smooth' when you
 render like subdivision.


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 Animation Director  Professional 3D Generalist
 http://www.danielkim3d.com
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 On Sun, Mar 9, 2014 at 11:47 AM, Jonah Friedman jon...@gmail.com wrote:

 You manually update them by hitting sort or sort all. Also have a check
 function that checks to see if anything is unsorted and report what.

 This workflow only works because passes and partitions are so solid and
 useful, not to mention groups. Maya has no foundation to build this sort of
 thing on, only sets which are near useless.
  On Mar 8, 2014 5:39 PM, Andy Goehler lists.andy.goeh...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Sounds great. How does the Sort Controller update the pass? By
 callback upon switching to that pass or manually?

 Andy

 On Mar 08, 2014, at 23:35, Jonah Friedman jon...@gmail.com wrote:

 We have a rule based way of sorting partitions called the Sort
 Controller, originally conceived by Andy Jones. It's been extremely
 powerful.

 You write your passes in a simple markup language in a PPG on the pass,
 like this. Copy pasting from a real production scene I have open right now-

 Background_Objects_Partition = *
 characters = sg_character
 set = sg_set
 lighting_geo = sg_lighting_geo

 l: Background_Lights_Partition = *
 l: env = sg_lEnv
 l: key = sg_lKey
 l: rim = sg_lRim


 What that does is puts objects in a group called sg_character into a
 partition called characters. So each pass has a sort controller on it,
 and the scene can stay sorted by managing the sort groups, called SG by
 convention.

 It's been extremely good to us. Other than that, passes and partitions
 do their work exactly the way soft is supposed to, except that the
 partitions are sorted by the Sort Controller.

 Even our least technical lighters got used to it no problem, and it's
 universally loved.

Re: Maya feature request from Softimage users

2014-03-08 Thread Andy Jones

We should really just release ours.  We'd just have to get it cleared with
our CTO.  But since I built the original version back in the mid 2000s when
I was at PLF, it's probably something we can make happen pretty easily. I
think we'll also likely want it out there as reference material for a
Fabric based scene assembler.

We also have an event-based script property thing we made recently, which
people might find cool.  Not earthshattering, but kinda fun, and would let
you do the sorting automatically if you want.

Re: contribution maps, let's keep in mind that the special sauce that makes
that work in Maya is also a big reason Mental Ray became unusable in Maya.
They put so much garbage in the MR version of the Maya shading engine that
scenes would sometimes render faster in Soft by an order of magnitude.  I
spent some time at one point trying to get rid of it, but it was so
complicated I eventually realized that even if I found a solution there was
no way I could enforce it.  I even looked into stripping it via a geometry
shader at one point.  I think they designed contribution maps without
raytracing in mind or something.  It's not just contribution maps, but the
whole magic maya BS that they tried to cram in there.  MayaGlow and
whatnot.

Also, as mentioned, they're not the same thing as partitions anyway.

I could say people should save some time and not bother learning Maya, but
the truth is, it's really valuable for learning what not to do in 3D
software.  Kind of like how it's important to study history so as not to
repeat it.

On Saturday, March 8, 2014, Andy Goehler lists.andy.goeh...@gmail.com
wrote:

 On Mar 08, 2014, at 23:47, Jonah Friedman 
 jon...@gmail.comjavascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','jon...@gmail.com');
 wrote:

 You manually update them by hitting sort or sort all. Also have a check
 function that checks to see if anything is unsorted and report what.

 Sounds like something I'll start implementing on Monday.

 Thanks for the inspiration.

 Andy

Re: Maya feature request from Softimage users

2014-03-08 Thread Mirko Jankovic

Looks like MRay burried its hands deep in all programs and don;t wanna let
go... honestly... it would be waaay better fif they would arive wihtouth
any render engine at all, ofc cut base price of 3d software as well and
then you have bduget to choose render engine. Or even better
Buy app this or that and pick render engine to choose
app - $ xxx
render engine 1 - $xx

render engine n -$xx

and voala.
those who don;t even need render engine at all can get it for better
price...

but then they wanna sell it more expensive so you WILL pay for MRay even if
you are nevver gonna use it :)


On Sun, Mar 9, 2014 at 12:13 AM, Andy Jones andy.jo...@gmail.com wrote:

 We should really just release ours.  We'd just have to get it cleared with
 our CTO.  But since I built the original version back in the mid 2000s when
 I was at PLF, it's probably something we can make happen pretty easily. I
 think we'll also likely want it out there as reference material for a
 Fabric based scene assembler.

 We also have an event-based script property thing we made recently, which
 people might find cool.  Not earthshattering, but kinda fun, and would let
 you do the sorting automatically if you want.

 Re: contribution maps, let's keep in mind that the special sauce that
 makes that work in Maya is also a big reason Mental Ray became unusable in
 Maya. They put so much garbage in the MR version of the Maya shading engine
 that scenes would sometimes render faster in Soft by an order of magnitude.
  I spent some time at one point trying to get rid of it, but it was so
 complicated I eventually realized that even if I found a solution there was
 no way I could enforce it.  I even looked into stripping it via a geometry
 shader at one point.  I think they designed contribution maps without
 raytracing in mind or something.  It's not just contribution maps, but the
 whole magic maya BS that they tried to cram in there.  MayaGlow and
 whatnot.

 Also, as mentioned, they're not the same thing as partitions anyway.

 I could say people should save some time and not bother learning Maya, but
 the truth is, it's really valuable for learning what not to do in 3D
 software.  Kind of like how it's important to study history so as not to
 repeat it.


 On Saturday, March 8, 2014, Andy Goehler lists.andy.goeh...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 On Mar 08, 2014, at 23:47, Jonah Friedman jon...@gmail.com wrote:

  You manually update them by hitting sort or sort all. Also have a check
 function that checks to see if anything is unsorted and report what.

 Sounds like something I'll start implementing on Monday.

 Thanks for the inspiration.

 Andy

Re: Maya feature request from Softimage users

2014-03-08 Thread Jonah Friedman

You manually update them by hitting sort or sort all. Also have a check
function that checks to see if anything is unsorted and report what.

This workflow only works because passes and partitions are so solid and
useful, not to mention groups. Maya has no foundation to build this sort of
thing on, only sets which are near useless.
 On Mar 8, 2014 5:39 PM, Andy Goehler lists.andy.goeh...@gmail.com
wrote:

 Sounds great. How does the Sort Controller update the pass? By callback
 upon switching to that pass or manually?

 Andy

 On Mar 08, 2014, at 23:35, Jonah Friedman jon...@gmail.com wrote:

 We have a rule based way of sorting partitions called the Sort
 Controller, originally conceived by Andy Jones. It's been extremely
 powerful.

 You write your passes in a simple markup language in a PPG on the pass,
 like this. Copy pasting from a real production scene I have open right now-

 Background_Objects_Partition = *
 characters = sg_character
 set = sg_set
 lighting_geo = sg_lighting_geo

 l: Background_Lights_Partition = *
 l: env = sg_lEnv
 l: key = sg_lKey
 l: rim = sg_lRim


 What that does is puts objects in a group called sg_character into a
 partition called characters. So each pass has a sort controller on it,
 and the scene can stay sorted by managing the sort groups, called SG by
 convention.

 It's been extremely good to us. Other than that, passes and partitions do
 their work exactly the way soft is supposed to, except that the partitions
 are sorted by the Sort Controller.

 Even our least technical lighters got used to it no problem, and it's
 universally loved.

Re: Maya feature request from Softimage users

2014-03-08 Thread Cristobal Infante

I made a script which I should really share called assign partition which
works exactly like Assign material.

New object in the scene that need partitioning, just selecting any object
that's already in the correct partition.


On 8 March 2014 22:30, Andy Goehler lists.andy.goeh...@gmail.com wrote:

 Thank you for saying that Eric. While Softs Passes/Partitions are still
 great and better than others out there, I feel the same way. Having to add
 yet another object to a partition in x amount of passes is something I've
 become to hate. Referencing of partitions/groups in passes would help,
 expression/rule based assignment, or yet a node based approach to passes.
 Wait what? :-)

 Andy



 On Mar 08, 2014, at 23:21, Eric Thivierge ethivie...@gmail.com wrote:

 I think we all need to be honest, there were concepts that were great
 about passes / partitions but there were some things that needed fixing
 (still do). We need something that isn't exactly like the pass / partition
 system. We need something better.

Re: Maya feature request from Softimage users

2014-03-07 Thread Mirko Jankovic

You said it all 
gator, SI shape system, change modeling.. well really what we need is
Softimage :)
Can't imagine daily work without any of those tools, most importantly
stable non destructive workflow.


On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 5:59 PM, Jeremie Passerin gerem@gmail.comwrote:

 Hey guys...

 What do you want to see added to Maya ?
 Autodesk is saying they will add Softimage features to the other
 packages... What is that ?

 As a Rigger, here is what I will miss the most

 - Gator
 - ICE : Especially to create custom deformers
 - Proper weights painting tools
 - Weights Editor !
 - The Operator Stack, reorder, delete operator...
 - Being able to change modeling whith Envelope, Shapes already applied to
 the mesh
 - Blend shape workflow

 I would really like to hear Autodesk plan to incorporate some of those
 features in Maya.
 I'm guessing there not all super easy to merge, but some of them would be
 considered as amazing new feature by the Maya users.

 J/

Re: Maya feature request from Softimage users

2014-03-07 Thread Tim Crowson


All that, Jeremie, and

- GEAR  ;-)
- The Tweak tool, with all its bells and whistles
- Reproject shape when smoothing (aka Relax)
- Smooth by Convexity/Concavity
- ICE-based instancing for populating enviros

-Tim

On 3/7/2014 10:59 AM, Jeremie Passerin wrote:

Hey guys...

What do you want to see added to Maya ?
Autodesk is saying they will add Softimage features to the other 
packages... What is that ?


As a Rigger, here is what I will miss the most

- Gator
- ICE : Especially to create custom deformers
- Proper weights painting tools
- Weights Editor !
- The Operator Stack, reorder, delete operator...
- Being able to change modeling whith Envelope, Shapes already applied 
to the mesh

- Blend shape workflow

I would really like to hear Autodesk plan to incorporate some of those 
features in Maya.
I'm guessing there not all super easy to merge, but some of them would 
be considered as amazing new feature by the Maya users.


J/


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Re: Maya feature request from Softimage users


Maya 2039 (rewritten)

On 03/07/14 12:06, Mirko Jankovic wrote:

stable non destructive workflow

Re: Maya feature request from Softimage users

2014-03-07 Thread Matt Morris

That's what worries me Jeremie - I use all those daily, and can't see them
being integrated easily at all, if ever.




On 7 March 2014 17:11, Jason S jasonsta...@gmail.com wrote:

  Maya 2039 (rewritten)

 On 03/07/14 12:06, Mirko Jankovic wrote:

 stable non destructive workflow





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Re: Maya feature request from Softimage users

2014-03-07 Thread Christopher Crouzet

When I had to move over to Maya, Gator, ICE, the weights painting tool and
the Weights Editor were definitely the most missed.
So missed that I would prototype deformers in ICE and convert them in code
for Maya. I also wrote a small workflow to allow me to paint the weights
and to model corrective shapes in Softimage, to then import them back in
Maya.

But for the operator stack, I don't think you'll be able to get a such
thing. There's actually one UI that shows an operator stack in Maya with
the possibility to reorder deformers but it is more a failed attempt than a
proper working tool. And I'm not even sure if it would work out with the
nodal structure that Maya relies on.

As for changing the model in a rig, it is just a node to update. So
theorically it's simple but of course it breaks all the deformers applied
to it. Hence the need like in every software that I know of to have a clean
workflow to easily export/import/convert mesh attributes. Or maybe have I
already forgot how Softimage works? :)



On 7 March 2014 11:59, Jeremie Passerin gerem@gmail.com wrote:

 Hey guys...

 What do you want to see added to Maya ?
 Autodesk is saying they will add Softimage features to the other
 packages... What is that ?

 As a Rigger, here is what I will miss the most

 - Gator
 - ICE : Especially to create custom deformers
 - Proper weights painting tools
 - Weights Editor !
 - The Operator Stack, reorder, delete operator...
 - Being able to change modeling whith Envelope, Shapes already applied to
 the mesh
 - Blend shape workflow

 I would really like to hear Autodesk plan to incorporate some of those
 features in Maya.
 I'm guessing there not all super easy to merge, but some of them would be
 considered as amazing new feature by the Maya users.

 J/




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Re: Maya feature request from Softimage users

2014-03-07 Thread Oscar Juarez

You nailed right there Jeremie, basically being flexible when rigging,
every day I go splitting geometry, regatoring meshes, and merging again,
transfering everything seamlessly.

Multi attribute editor, it's really stupid that when you select multiple
things you only see one at a time in the attribute editor, there is the
spreadsheet editor but that sucks in comparison.


On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 6:11 PM, Jason S jasonsta...@gmail.com wrote:

  Maya 2039 (rewritten)

 On 03/07/14 12:06, Mirko Jankovic wrote:

 stable non destructive workflow

Re: Maya feature request from Softimage users

2014-03-07 Thread Sebastien Sterling

the ability to show/hide components, like in every other DCC ever made.

the ability to relax selections of polygons edges and vertexes.

neither of these should prove to be too difficult... baby steps


On 7 March 2014 17:23, Oscar Juarez tridi.animei...@gmail.com wrote:

 You nailed right there Jeremie, basically being flexible when rigging,
 every day I go splitting geometry, regatoring meshes, and merging again,
 transfering everything seamlessly.

 Multi attribute editor, it's really stupid that when you select multiple
 things you only see one at a time in the attribute editor, there is the
 spreadsheet editor but that sucks in comparison.


 On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 6:11 PM, Jason S jasonsta...@gmail.com wrote:

  Maya 2039 (rewritten)

 On 03/07/14 12:06, Mirko Jankovic wrote:

 stable non destructive workflow

Re: Maya feature request from Softimage users

   1. A totally new and coherent interfase.
   2. The same selection object component behavior.
   3. That if you select an item it will stay selected until you deselected.
   4. An M tool
   5. The same shape system of Softimage.
   6. Stacks
   7. Ability to have the same Softimage keyboard shortcuts layout.
   8. Hide all the connections in the Channels/Layers Editor
   9. Redisgn the graph editor behavior.
   10. Ability to lock the propoerties of the object you are editing no
   matter what other object you selected.
   11. Active mouse over window
   12. Render region
   13. Pass phylosofphy as the one in Softimage
   14. If you make a connection, ability to write expressions there instead
   of build an intrincated node laberynth.
   15. Object to have only one node, not the object and shape node.
   16. Ability to use any object to envelope
   17. Implicit objects
   18. Operators

Well just for a start. and the rest others mentioned.

The easiest thing maybe will be to call Softiamge, Maya and there you go.




---
Emilio Hernández   VFX  3D animation.


2014-03-07 11:07 GMT-06:00 Tim Crowson tim.crow...@magneticdreams.com:

  All that, Jeremie, and

 - GEAR  ;-)
 - The Tweak tool, with all its bells and whistles
 - Reproject shape when smoothing (aka Relax)
 - Smooth by Convexity/Concavity
 - ICE-based instancing for populating enviros

 -Tim


 On 3/7/2014 10:59 AM, Jeremie Passerin wrote:

 Hey guys...

  What do you want to see added to Maya ?
 Autodesk is saying they will add Softimage features to the other
 packages... What is that ?

  As a Rigger, here is what I will miss the most

  - Gator
 - ICE : Especially to create custom deformers
 - Proper weights painting tools
 - Weights Editor !
 - The Operator Stack, reorder, delete operator...
 - Being able to change modeling whith Envelope, Shapes already applied to
 the mesh
 - Blend shape workflow

  I would really like to hear Autodesk plan to incorporate some of those
 features in Maya.
 I'm guessing there not all super easy to merge, but some of them would be
 considered as amazing new feature by the Maya users.

  J/


 --

Re: Maya feature request from Softimage users

2014-03-07 Thread Joe Laffey

I know none of us are happy, but I feel like I ought to point out that Max 
has a lot of these things. The operator stack in Max works quite well.


Sure, Soft had a lot of things that Max lacked, but Max has a lot that 
Soft lacked.


Ephere's Lab provides at least some of the ICE functionality as well:

https://www.ephere.com/plugins/autodesk/max/lab/






On Fri, 7 Mar 2014, Christopher Crouzet wrote:


When I had to move over to Maya, Gator, ICE, the weights painting tool and
the Weights Editor were definitely the most missed.
So missed that I would prototype deformers in ICE and convert them in code
for Maya. I also wrote a small workflow to allow me to paint the weights
and to model corrective shapes in Softimage, to then import them back in
Maya.

But for the operator stack, I don't think you'll be able to get a such
thing. There's actually one UI that shows an operator stack in Maya with
the possibility to reorder deformers but it is more a failed attempt than a
proper working tool. And I'm not even sure if it would work out with the
nodal structure that Maya relies on.

As for changing the model in a rig, it is just a node to update. So
theorically it's simple but of course it breaks all the deformers applied
to it. Hence the need like in every software that I know of to have a clean
workflow to easily export/import/convert mesh attributes. Or maybe have I
already forgot how Softimage works? :)



On 7 March 2014 11:59, Jeremie Passerin gerem@gmail.com wrote:


Hey guys...

What do you want to see added to Maya ?
Autodesk is saying they will add Softimage features to the other
packages... What is that ?

As a Rigger, here is what I will miss the most

- Gator
- ICE : Especially to create custom deformers
- Proper weights painting tools
- Weights Editor !
- The Operator Stack, reorder, delete operator...
- Being able to change modeling whith Envelope, Shapes already applied to
the mesh
- Blend shape workflow

I would really like to hear Autodesk plan to incorporate some of those
features in Maya.
I'm guessing there not all super easy to merge, but some of them would be
considered as amazing new feature by the Maya users.

J/





--
Christopher Crouzet
*http://christophercrouzet.com* http://christophercrouzet.com



--
Joe Laffey
The Stable
Visual Effects
http://TheStable.tv/?e34039M/

RE: Maya feature request from Softimage users

2014-03-07 Thread Manuel Huertas Marchena

uv unfold please!!
...really dont like maya uv's tools!

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Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2014 17:30:22 +
Subject: Re: Maya feature request from Softimage users
From: sebastien.sterl...@gmail.com
To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com

the ability to show/hide components, like in every other DCC ever made.

the ability to relax selections of polygons edges and vertexes.

neither of these should prove to be too difficult... baby steps

On 7 March 2014 17:23, Oscar Juarez tridi.animei...@gmail.com wrote:

You nailed right there Jeremie, basically being flexible when rigging, every 
day I go splitting geometry, regatoring meshes, and merging again, transfering 
everything seamlessly.

Multi attribute editor, it's really stupid that when you select multiple things 
you only see one at a time in the attribute editor, there is the spreadsheet 
editor but that sucks in comparison.

On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 6:11 PM, Jason S jasonsta...@gmail.com wrote:

Maya 2039 (rewritten)

On 03/07/14 12:06, Mirko Jankovic wrote:

stable non destructive workflow

Re: Maya feature request from Softimage users

2014-03-07 Thread Mirko Jankovic

Max.. heh.. please.. when it comes to rigging and character animation well
animation at all Max is nightmare.. I know a LOT of animators, my self
included that hates animating in Max more then even working in Maya.
I even turned down a lot of work because it is Max based.. character
animation and Max no thank you...
In Maya you can at least animate... once you get to working rig that is...
but in Max.. ugh!


On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 6:37 PM, Manuel Huertas Marchena lito...@hotmail.com
 wrote:

 uv unfold please!!

 ...really dont like maya uv's tools!



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 --
 Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2014 17:30:22 +
 Subject: Re: Maya feature request from Softimage users
 From: sebastien.sterl...@gmail.com
 To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com


 the ability to show/hide components, like in every other DCC ever made.

 the ability to relax selections of polygons edges and vertexes.

 neither of these should prove to be too difficult... baby steps


 On 7 March 2014 17:23, Oscar Juarez tridi.animei...@gmail.com wrote:

 You nailed right there Jeremie, basically being flexible when rigging,
 every day I go splitting geometry, regatoring meshes, and merging again,
 transfering everything seamlessly.

 Multi attribute editor, it's really stupid that when you select multiple
 things you only see one at a time in the attribute editor, there is the
 spreadsheet editor but that sucks in comparison.


 On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 6:11 PM, Jason S jasonsta...@gmail.com wrote:

  Maya 2039 (rewritten)

 On 03/07/14 12:06, Mirko Jankovic wrote:

 stable non destructive workflow

Re: Maya feature request from Softimage users

My advice to Autodesk, as we all know they are not selling their patents,
intellectual property, etc, bla, bla.  Although they could sell Softimage
to another company and still charge them for exploting all this patents,
etc. and enjoy of the earnings without putting a dime in Softimage, will be:

Leave Softimage 2015 as it is with fixing minor bugs, or not even that.
Just leave it as it is.  And at a devs pace start integrating all of these
features into a new redisigned DCC tool, that will bring the gap of the
artists using Maya and the artists using Softimage.

Give it a new name, and then put to rest Maya and Softimage.

My 2 cents.




---
Emilio Hernández   VFX  3D animation.


2014-03-07 11:30 GMT-06:00 Sebastien Sterling sebastien.sterl...@gmail.com
:

 the ability to show/hide components, like in every other DCC ever made.

 the ability to relax selections of polygons edges and vertexes.

 neither of these should prove to be too difficult... baby steps


 On 7 March 2014 17:23, Oscar Juarez tridi.animei...@gmail.com wrote:

 You nailed right there Jeremie, basically being flexible when rigging,
 every day I go splitting geometry, regatoring meshes, and merging again,
 transfering everything seamlessly.

 Multi attribute editor, it's really stupid that when you select multiple
 things you only see one at a time in the attribute editor, there is the
 spreadsheet editor but that sucks in comparison.


 On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 6:11 PM, Jason S jasonsta...@gmail.com wrote:

  Maya 2039 (rewritten)

 On 03/07/14 12:06, Mirko Jankovic wrote:

 stable non destructive workflow

Re: Maya feature request from Softimage users

2014-03-07 Thread Nic Sievers

I believe Maya 2015 adds a new unfold3D tool...


On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 9:37 AM, Manuel Huertas Marchena lito...@hotmail.com
 wrote:

 uv unfold please!!

 ...really dont like maya uv's tools!



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 --
 Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2014 17:30:22 +
 Subject: Re: Maya feature request from Softimage users
 From: sebastien.sterl...@gmail.com
 To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com


 the ability to show/hide components, like in every other DCC ever made.

 the ability to relax selections of polygons edges and vertexes.

 neither of these should prove to be too difficult... baby steps


 On 7 March 2014 17:23, Oscar Juarez tridi.animei...@gmail.com wrote:

 You nailed right there Jeremie, basically being flexible when rigging,
 every day I go splitting geometry, regatoring meshes, and merging again,
 transfering everything seamlessly.

 Multi attribute editor, it's really stupid that when you select multiple
 things you only see one at a time in the attribute editor, there is the
 spreadsheet editor but that sucks in comparison.


 On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 6:11 PM, Jason S jasonsta...@gmail.com wrote:

  Maya 2039 (rewritten)

 On 03/07/14 12:06, Mirko Jankovic wrote:

 stable non destructive workflow

Re: Maya feature request from Softimage users

2014-03-07 Thread Christopher Crouzet

And I believe you're breaking the NDA here?



On 7 March 2014 12:47, Nic Sievers siev...@gmail.com wrote:

 I believe Maya 2015 adds a new unfold3D tool...


 On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 9:37 AM, Manuel Huertas Marchena 
 lito...@hotmail.com wrote:

 uv unfold please!!

 ...really dont like maya uv's tools!



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 --
 Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2014 17:30:22 +
 Subject: Re: Maya feature request from Softimage users
 From: sebastien.sterl...@gmail.com
 To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com


 the ability to show/hide components, like in every other DCC ever made.

 the ability to relax selections of polygons edges and vertexes.

 neither of these should prove to be too difficult... baby steps


 On 7 March 2014 17:23, Oscar Juarez tridi.animei...@gmail.com wrote:

 You nailed right there Jeremie, basically being flexible when rigging,
 every day I go splitting geometry, regatoring meshes, and merging again,
 transfering everything seamlessly.

 Multi attribute editor, it's really stupid that when you select multiple
 things you only see one at a time in the attribute editor, there is the
 spreadsheet editor but that sucks in comparison.


 On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 6:11 PM, Jason S jasonsta...@gmail.com wrote:

  Maya 2039 (rewritten)

 On 03/07/14 12:06, Mirko Jankovic wrote:

 stable non destructive workflow








-- 
Christopher Crouzet
*http://christophercrouzet.com* http://christophercrouzet.com

Re: Maya feature request from Softimage users

2014-03-07 Thread Nic Sievers

nope, I haven't used it.   I should have specifically said its a rumor,
instead of I believe.


On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 9:50 AM, Christopher Crouzet 
christopher.crou...@gmail.com wrote:

 And I believe you're breaking the NDA here?



 On 7 March 2014 12:47, Nic Sievers siev...@gmail.com wrote:

 I believe Maya 2015 adds a new unfold3D tool...


 On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 9:37 AM, Manuel Huertas Marchena 
 lito...@hotmail.com wrote:

 uv unfold please!!

 ...really dont like maya uv's tools!



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 --
 Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2014 17:30:22 +
 Subject: Re: Maya feature request from Softimage users
 From: sebastien.sterl...@gmail.com
 To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com


 the ability to show/hide components, like in every other DCC ever made.

 the ability to relax selections of polygons edges and vertexes.

 neither of these should prove to be too difficult... baby steps


 On 7 March 2014 17:23, Oscar Juarez tridi.animei...@gmail.com wrote:

 You nailed right there Jeremie, basically being flexible when rigging,
 every day I go splitting geometry, regatoring meshes, and merging again,
 transfering everything seamlessly.

 Multi attribute editor, it's really stupid that when you select multiple
 things you only see one at a time in the attribute editor, there is the
 spreadsheet editor but that sucks in comparison.


 On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 6:11 PM, Jason S jasonsta...@gmail.com wrote:

  Maya 2039 (rewritten)

 On 03/07/14 12:06, Mirko Jankovic wrote:

 stable non destructive workflow








 --
 Christopher Crouzet
 *http://christophercrouzet.com* http://christophercrouzet.com

Re: Maya feature request from Softimage users

Oh I thought it was mentioned officialy by Autodesk.  If that was the
case probably will be the opposite.  But if it is a rumor then it might be
there  We just need like 6 years so it will become true.

---
Emilio Hernández   VFX  3D animation.


2014-03-07 11:54 GMT-06:00 Nic Sievers siev...@gmail.com:

 nope, I haven't used it.   I should have specifically said its a rumor,
 instead of I believe.


 On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 9:50 AM, Christopher Crouzet 
 christopher.crou...@gmail.com wrote:

 And I believe you're breaking the NDA here?



 On 7 March 2014 12:47, Nic Sievers siev...@gmail.com wrote:

 I believe Maya 2015 adds a new unfold3D tool...


 On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 9:37 AM, Manuel Huertas Marchena 
 lito...@hotmail.com wrote:

 uv unfold please!!

 ...really dont like maya uv's tools!



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 --
 Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2014 17:30:22 +
 Subject: Re: Maya feature request from Softimage users
 From: sebastien.sterl...@gmail.com
 To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com


 the ability to show/hide components, like in every other DCC ever made.

 the ability to relax selections of polygons edges and vertexes.

 neither of these should prove to be too difficult... baby steps


 On 7 March 2014 17:23, Oscar Juarez tridi.animei...@gmail.com wrote:

 You nailed right there Jeremie, basically being flexible when rigging,
 every day I go splitting geometry, regatoring meshes, and merging again,
 transfering everything seamlessly.

 Multi attribute editor, it's really stupid that when you select
 multiple things you only see one at a time in the attribute editor, there
 is the spreadsheet editor but that sucks in comparison.


 On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 6:11 PM, Jason S jasonsta...@gmail.com wrote:

  Maya 2039 (rewritten)

 On 03/07/14 12:06, Mirko Jankovic wrote:

 stable non destructive workflow








 --
 Christopher Crouzet
 *http://christophercrouzet.com* http://christophercrouzet.com

Re: Maya feature request from Softimage users

2014-03-07 Thread Adam Sale

Gator
Decent set of shatter and sim tools ala implosia and momentum
Face robot type functionality
 On Mar 7, 2014 10:00 AM, Emilio Hernandez emi...@e-roja.com wrote:

 Oh I thought it was mentioned officialy by Autodesk.  If that was the
 case probably will be the opposite.  But if it is a rumor then it might be
 there  We just need like 6 years so it will become true.

 ---
 Emilio Hernández   VFX  3D animation.


 2014-03-07 11:54 GMT-06:00 Nic Sievers siev...@gmail.com:

 nope, I haven't used it.   I should have specifically said its a rumor,
 instead of I believe.


 On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 9:50 AM, Christopher Crouzet 
 christopher.crou...@gmail.com wrote:

 And I believe you're breaking the NDA here?



 On 7 March 2014 12:47, Nic Sievers siev...@gmail.com wrote:

 I believe Maya 2015 adds a new unfold3D tool...


 On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 9:37 AM, Manuel Huertas Marchena 
 lito...@hotmail.com wrote:

 uv unfold please!!

 ...really dont like maya uv's tools!



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 --
 Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2014 17:30:22 +
 Subject: Re: Maya feature request from Softimage users
 From: sebastien.sterl...@gmail.com
 To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com


 the ability to show/hide components, like in every other DCC ever made.

 the ability to relax selections of polygons edges and vertexes.

 neither of these should prove to be too difficult... baby steps


 On 7 March 2014 17:23, Oscar Juarez tridi.animei...@gmail.com wrote:

 You nailed right there Jeremie, basically being flexible when rigging,
 every day I go splitting geometry, regatoring meshes, and merging again,
 transfering everything seamlessly.

 Multi attribute editor, it's really stupid that when you select
 multiple things you only see one at a time in the attribute editor, there
 is the spreadsheet editor but that sucks in comparison.


 On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 6:11 PM, Jason S jasonsta...@gmail.com wrote:

  Maya 2039 (rewritten)

 On 03/07/14 12:06, Mirko Jankovic wrote:

 stable non destructive workflow








 --
 Christopher Crouzet
 *http://christophercrouzet.com* http://christophercrouzet.com

Re: Maya feature request from Softimage users

Ability to change the same parameters in a multi selection objects

---
Emilio Hernández   VFX  3D animation.


2014-03-07 12:03 GMT-06:00 Adam Sale adamfs...@gmail.com:

 Gator
 Decent set of shatter and sim tools ala implosia and momentum
 Face robot type functionality
  On Mar 7, 2014 10:00 AM, Emilio Hernandez emi...@e-roja.com wrote:

 Oh I thought it was mentioned officialy by Autodesk.  If that was the
 case probably will be the opposite.  But if it is a rumor then it might be
 there  We just need like 6 years so it will become true.

 ---
 Emilio Hernández   VFX  3D animation.


 2014-03-07 11:54 GMT-06:00 Nic Sievers siev...@gmail.com:

 nope, I haven't used it.   I should have specifically said its a rumor,
 instead of I believe.


 On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 9:50 AM, Christopher Crouzet 
 christopher.crou...@gmail.com wrote:

 And I believe you're breaking the NDA here?



 On 7 March 2014 12:47, Nic Sievers siev...@gmail.com wrote:

 I believe Maya 2015 adds a new unfold3D tool...


 On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 9:37 AM, Manuel Huertas Marchena 
 lito...@hotmail.com wrote:

 uv unfold please!!

 ...really dont like maya uv's tools!



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 --
 Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2014 17:30:22 +
 Subject: Re: Maya feature request from Softimage users
 From: sebastien.sterl...@gmail.com
 To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com


 the ability to show/hide components, like in every other DCC ever
 made.

 the ability to relax selections of polygons edges and vertexes.

 neither of these should prove to be too difficult... baby steps


 On 7 March 2014 17:23, Oscar Juarez tridi.animei...@gmail.comwrote:

 You nailed right there Jeremie, basically being flexible when
 rigging, every day I go splitting geometry, regatoring meshes, and 
 merging
 again, transfering everything seamlessly.

 Multi attribute editor, it's really stupid that when you select
 multiple things you only see one at a time in the attribute editor, there
 is the spreadsheet editor but that sucks in comparison.


 On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 6:11 PM, Jason S jasonsta...@gmail.comwrote:

  Maya 2039 (rewritten)

 On 03/07/14 12:06, Mirko Jankovic wrote:

 stable non destructive workflow








 --
 Christopher Crouzet
 *http://christophercrouzet.com* http://christophercrouzet.com

Re: Maya feature request from Softimage users

2014-03-07 Thread Rob Chapman

No icons..?  :D
On 7 Mar 2014 18:10, Emilio Hernandez emi...@e-roja.com wrote:

 Independency of child parameters from parent objects.  LIke for example if
 you want to hide the parent and leave the child visible, and not spread all
 of this throught the hierarchy.

 ---
 Emilio Hernández   VFX  3D animation.


 2014-03-07 12:05 GMT-06:00 Emilio Hernandez emi...@e-roja.com:

 Ability to change the same parameters in a multi selection objects

 ---
 Emilio Hernández   VFX  3D animation.


 2014-03-07 12:03 GMT-06:00 Adam Sale adamfs...@gmail.com:

 Gator
 Decent set of shatter and sim tools ala implosia and momentum
 Face robot type functionality
  On Mar 7, 2014 10:00 AM, Emilio Hernandez emi...@e-roja.com wrote:

 Oh I thought it was mentioned officialy by Autodesk.  If that was the
 case probably will be the opposite.  But if it is a rumor then it might be
 there  We just need like 6 years so it will become true.

 ---
 Emilio Hernández   VFX  3D animation.


 2014-03-07 11:54 GMT-06:00 Nic Sievers siev...@gmail.com:

 nope, I haven't used it.   I should have specifically said its a
 rumor, instead of I believe.


 On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 9:50 AM, Christopher Crouzet 
 christopher.crou...@gmail.com wrote:

 And I believe you're breaking the NDA here?



 On 7 March 2014 12:47, Nic Sievers siev...@gmail.com wrote:

 I believe Maya 2015 adds a new unfold3D tool...


 On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 9:37 AM, Manuel Huertas Marchena 
 lito...@hotmail.com wrote:

 uv unfold please!!

 ...really dont like maya uv's tools!



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 --
 Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2014 17:30:22 +
 Subject: Re: Maya feature request from Softimage users
 From: sebastien.sterl...@gmail.com
 To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com


 the ability to show/hide components, like in every other DCC ever
 made.

 the ability to relax selections of polygons edges and vertexes.

 neither of these should prove to be too difficult... baby steps


 On 7 March 2014 17:23, Oscar Juarez tridi.animei...@gmail.comwrote:

 You nailed right there Jeremie, basically being flexible when
 rigging, every day I go splitting geometry, regatoring meshes, and 
 merging
 again, transfering everything seamlessly.

 Multi attribute editor, it's really stupid that when you select
 multiple things you only see one at a time in the attribute editor, 
 there
 is the spreadsheet editor but that sucks in comparison.


 On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 6:11 PM, Jason S jasonsta...@gmail.comwrote:

  Maya 2039 (rewritten)

 On 03/07/14 12:06, Mirko Jankovic wrote:

 stable non destructive workflow








 --
 Christopher Crouzet
 *http://christophercrouzet.com* http://christophercrouzet.com

Re: Maya feature request from Softimage users


Problem-solving  without  problem-solving-code-departments

On 03/07/14 13:15, Emilio Hernandez wrote:

+1

---
Emilio Hernández   VFX  3D animation.


2014-03-07 12:14 GMT-06:00 Rob Chapman tekano@gmail.com 
mailto:tekano@gmail.com:


No icons..?  :D

On 7 Mar 2014 18:10, Emilio Hernandez emi...@e-roja.com
mailto:emi...@e-roja.com wrote:

Independency of child parameters from parent objects.  LIke
for example if you want to hide the parent and leave the child
visible, and not spread all of this throught the hierarchy.

---
Emilio Hernández   VFX  3D animation.


2014-03-07 12:05 GMT-06:00 Emilio Hernandez emi...@e-roja.com
mailto:emi...@e-roja.com:

Ability to change the same parameters in a multi selection
objects

---
Emilio Hernández   VFX  3D animation.


2014-03-07 12:03 GMT-06:00 Adam Sale adamfs...@gmail.com
mailto:adamfs...@gmail.com:

Gator
Decent set of shatter and sim tools ala implosia and
momentum
Face robot type functionality

On Mar 7, 2014 10:00 AM, Emilio Hernandez
emi...@e-roja.com mailto:emi...@e-roja.com wrote:

Oh I thought it was mentioned officialy by
Autodesk.  If that was the case probably will be
the opposite.  But if it is a rumor then it might
be there  We just need like 6 years so it will
become true.

---
Emilio Hernández   VFX  3D animation.


2014-03-07 11:54 GMT-06:00 Nic Sievers
siev...@gmail.com mailto:siev...@gmail.com:

nope, I haven't used it.   I should have
specifically said its a rumor, instead of I
believe.


On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 9:50 AM, Christopher
Crouzet christopher.crou...@gmail.com
mailto:christopher.crou...@gmail.com wrote:

And I believe you're breaking the NDA here?



On 7 March 2014 12:47, Nic Sievers
siev...@gmail.com
mailto:siev...@gmail.com wrote:

I believe Maya 2015 adds a new
unfold3D tool...


On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 9:37 AM, Manuel
Huertas Marchena lito...@hotmail.com
mailto:lito...@hotmail.com wrote:

uv unfold please!!

...really dont like maya uv's tools!



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Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2014 17:30:22 +
Subject: Re: Maya feature request
from Softimage users
From: sebastien.sterl...@gmail.com
mailto:sebastien.sterl...@gmail.com
To:
softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
mailto:softimage@listproc.autodesk.com



the ability to show/hide
components, like in every other
DCC ever made.

the ability to relax selections of
polygons edges and vertexes.

neither of these should prove to
be too difficult... baby steps


On 7 March 2014 17:23, Oscar
Juarez tridi.animei...@gmail.com
mailto:tridi.animei...@gmail.com wrote:

You nailed right there
Jeremie

Re: Maya feature request from Softimage users


Problem-solving  without  problem-solving-code-departments

On 03/07/14 13:15, Emilio Hernandez wrote:

+1

---
Emilio Hernández   VFX  3D animation.


2014-03-07 12:14 GMT-06:00 Rob Chapman tekano@gmail.com 
mailto:tekano@gmail.com:


No icons..?  :D

On 7 Mar 2014 18:10, Emilio Hernandez emi...@e-roja.com
mailto:emi...@e-roja.com wrote:

Independency of child parameters from parent objects.  LIke
for example if you want to hide the parent and leave the child
visible, and not spread all of this throught the hierarchy.

---
Emilio Hernández   VFX  3D animation.


2014-03-07 12:05 GMT-06:00 Emilio Hernandez emi...@e-roja.com
mailto:emi...@e-roja.com:

Ability to change the same parameters in a multi selection
objects

---
Emilio Hernández   VFX  3D animation.


2014-03-07 12:03 GMT-06:00 Adam Sale adamfs...@gmail.com
mailto:adamfs...@gmail.com:

Gator
Decent set of shatter and sim tools ala implosia and
momentum
Face robot type functionality

On Mar 7, 2014 10:00 AM, Emilio Hernandez
emi...@e-roja.com mailto:emi...@e-roja.com wrote:

Oh I thought it was mentioned officialy by
Autodesk.  If that was the case probably will be
the opposite.  But if it is a rumor then it might
be there  We just need like 6 years so it will
become true.

---
Emilio Hernández   VFX  3D animation.


2014-03-07 11:54 GMT-06:00 Nic Sievers
siev...@gmail.com mailto:siev...@gmail.com:

nope, I haven't used it.   I should have
specifically said its a rumor, instead of I
believe.


On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 9:50 AM, Christopher
Crouzet christopher.crou...@gmail.com
mailto:christopher.crou...@gmail.com wrote:

And I believe you're breaking the NDA here?



On 7 March 2014 12:47, Nic Sievers
siev...@gmail.com
mailto:siev...@gmail.com wrote:

I believe Maya 2015 adds a new
unfold3D tool...


On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 9:37 AM, Manuel
Huertas Marchena lito...@hotmail.com
mailto:lito...@hotmail.com wrote:

uv unfold please!!

...really dont like maya uv's tools!



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Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2014 17:30:22 +
Subject: Re: Maya feature request
from Softimage users
From: sebastien.sterl...@gmail.com
mailto:sebastien.sterl...@gmail.com
To:
softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
mailto:softimage@listproc.autodesk.com



the ability to show/hide
components, like in every other
DCC ever made.

the ability to relax selections of
polygons edges and vertexes.

neither of these should prove to
be too difficult... baby steps


On 7 March 2014 17:23, Oscar
Juarez tridi.animei...@gmail.com
mailto:tridi.animei...@gmail.com wrote:

You nailed right there
Jeremie

Re: Maya feature request from Softimage users

Independency of child parameters from parent objects.  LIke for example if
you want to hide the parent and leave the child visible, and not spread all
of this throught the hierarchy.

---
Emilio Hernández   VFX  3D animation.


2014-03-07 12:05 GMT-06:00 Emilio Hernandez emi...@e-roja.com:

 Ability to change the same parameters in a multi selection objects

 ---
 Emilio Hernández   VFX  3D animation.


 2014-03-07 12:03 GMT-06:00 Adam Sale adamfs...@gmail.com:

 Gator
 Decent set of shatter and sim tools ala implosia and momentum
 Face robot type functionality
  On Mar 7, 2014 10:00 AM, Emilio Hernandez emi...@e-roja.com wrote:

 Oh I thought it was mentioned officialy by Autodesk.  If that was the
 case probably will be the opposite.  But if it is a rumor then it might be
 there  We just need like 6 years so it will become true.

 ---
 Emilio Hernández   VFX  3D animation.


 2014-03-07 11:54 GMT-06:00 Nic Sievers siev...@gmail.com:

 nope, I haven't used it.   I should have specifically said its a rumor,
 instead of I believe.


 On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 9:50 AM, Christopher Crouzet 
 christopher.crou...@gmail.com wrote:

 And I believe you're breaking the NDA here?



 On 7 March 2014 12:47, Nic Sievers siev...@gmail.com wrote:

 I believe Maya 2015 adds a new unfold3D tool...


 On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 9:37 AM, Manuel Huertas Marchena 
 lito...@hotmail.com wrote:

 uv unfold please!!

 ...really dont like maya uv's tools!



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 --
 Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2014 17:30:22 +
 Subject: Re: Maya feature request from Softimage users
 From: sebastien.sterl...@gmail.com
 To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com


 the ability to show/hide components, like in every other DCC ever
 made.

 the ability to relax selections of polygons edges and vertexes.

 neither of these should prove to be too difficult... baby steps


 On 7 March 2014 17:23, Oscar Juarez tridi.animei...@gmail.comwrote:

 You nailed right there Jeremie, basically being flexible when
 rigging, every day I go splitting geometry, regatoring meshes, and 
 merging
 again, transfering everything seamlessly.

 Multi attribute editor, it's really stupid that when you select
 multiple things you only see one at a time in the attribute editor, 
 there
 is the spreadsheet editor but that sucks in comparison.


 On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 6:11 PM, Jason S jasonsta...@gmail.comwrote:

  Maya 2039 (rewritten)

 On 03/07/14 12:06, Mirko Jankovic wrote:

 stable non destructive workflow








 --
 Christopher Crouzet
 *http://christophercrouzet.com* http://christophercrouzet.com

Re: Maya feature request from Softimage users

Ability to drag and drop objects in the outliner under other objects like
the explorer.
Ability to have non transformation groups

Pfff I am working in Maya right now, as I am required to do so, the list is
so long as I continue to do stuff.

---
Emilio Hernández   VFX  3D animation.


2014-03-07 12:18 GMT-06:00 Jason S jasonsta...@gmail.com:

  Problem-solving  without  problem-solving-code-departments

 On 03/07/14 13:15, Emilio Hernandez wrote:

 +1

  ---
 Emilio Hernández   VFX  3D animation.


 2014-03-07 12:14 GMT-06:00 Rob Chapman tekano@gmail.com:

 No icons..?  :D
  On 7 Mar 2014 18:10, Emilio Hernandez emi...@e-roja.com wrote:

 Independency of child parameters from parent objects.  LIke for example
 if you want to hide the parent and leave the child visible, and not spread
 all of this throught the hierarchy.

  ---
 Emilio Hernández   VFX  3D animation.


 2014-03-07 12:05 GMT-06:00 Emilio Hernandez emi...@e-roja.com:

 Ability to change the same parameters in a multi selection objects

  ---
 Emilio Hernández   VFX  3D animation.


  2014-03-07 12:03 GMT-06:00 Adam Sale adamfs...@gmail.com:

  Gator
 Decent set of shatter and sim tools ala implosia and momentum
 Face robot type functionality
   On Mar 7, 2014 10:00 AM, Emilio Hernandez emi...@e-roja.com
 wrote:

 Oh I thought it was mentioned officialy by Autodesk.  If that was
 the case probably will be the opposite.  But if it is a rumor then it 
 might
 be there  We just need like 6 years so it will become true.

  ---
 Emilio Hernández   VFX  3D animation.


 2014-03-07 11:54 GMT-06:00 Nic Sievers siev...@gmail.com:

  nope, I haven't used it.   I should have specifically said its a
 rumor, instead of I believe.


 On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 9:50 AM, Christopher Crouzet 
 christopher.crou...@gmail.com wrote:

 And I believe you're breaking the NDA here?



 On 7 March 2014 12:47, Nic Sievers siev...@gmail.com wrote:

  I believe Maya 2015 adds a new unfold3D tool...


  On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 9:37 AM, Manuel Huertas Marchena 
 lito...@hotmail.com wrote:

  uv unfold please!!

  ...really dont like maya uv's tools!



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  --
 Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2014 17:30:22 +
 Subject: Re: Maya feature request from Softimage users
 From: sebastien.sterl...@gmail.com
 To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com


  the ability to show/hide components, like in every other DCC
 ever made.

  the ability to relax selections of polygons edges and vertexes.

  neither of these should prove to be too difficult... baby steps


 On 7 March 2014 17:23, Oscar Juarez tridi.animei...@gmail.comwrote:

 You nailed right there Jeremie, basically being flexible when
 rigging, every day I go splitting geometry, regatoring meshes, and 
 merging
 again, transfering everything seamlessly.

  Multi attribute editor, it's really stupid that when you select
 multiple things you only see one at a time in the attribute editor, 
 there
 is the spreadsheet editor but that sucks in comparison.


 On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 6:11 PM, Jason S jasonsta...@gmail.comwrote:

  Maya 2039 (rewritten)

 On 03/07/14 12:06, Mirko Jankovic wrote:

 stable non destructive workflow








   --
 Christopher Crouzet
 *http://christophercrouzet.com* http://christophercrouzet.com

Re: Maya feature request from Softimage users

2014-03-07 Thread Jordi Bares

The more I read the more futile the effort seems… there is absolutely no way 
Autodesk is going to understand it…

:-P

Sorry for ruining the party..

Jordi Bares
jordiba...@gmail.com

On 7 Mar 2014, at 18:22, Emilio Hernandez emi...@e-roja.com wrote:

 Ability to drag and drop objects in the outliner under other objects like the 
 explorer.
 Ability to have non transformation groups
 
 Pfff I am working in Maya right now, as I am required to do so, the list is 
 so long as I continue to do stuff.
 
 ---
 Emilio Hernández   VFX  3D animation.
 
 
 2014-03-07 12:18 GMT-06:00 Jason S jasonsta...@gmail.com:
 Problem-solving  without  problem-solving-code-departments
 
 On 03/07/14 13:15, Emilio Hernandez wrote:
 +1
 
 ---
 Emilio Hernández   VFX  3D animation.
 
 
 2014-03-07 12:14 GMT-06:00 Rob Chapman tekano@gmail.com:
 No icons..?  :D
 
 On 7 Mar 2014 18:10, Emilio Hernandez emi...@e-roja.com wrote:
 Independency of child parameters from parent objects.  LIke for example if 
 you want to hide the parent and leave the child visible, and not spread all 
 of this throught the hierarchy.
 
 ---
 Emilio Hernández   VFX  3D animation.
 
 
 2014-03-07 12:05 GMT-06:00 Emilio Hernandez emi...@e-roja.com:
 Ability to change the same parameters in a multi selection objects
 
 ---
 Emilio Hernández   VFX  3D animation.
 
 
 2014-03-07 12:03 GMT-06:00 Adam Sale adamfs...@gmail.com:
 
 Gator
 Decent set of shatter and sim tools ala implosia and momentum
 Face robot type functionality
 On Mar 7, 2014 10:00 AM, Emilio Hernandez emi...@e-roja.com wrote:
 Oh I thought it was mentioned officialy by Autodesk.  If that was the case 
 probably will be the opposite.  But if it is a rumor then it might be 
 there  We just need like 6 years so it will become true.
 
 ---
 Emilio Hernández   VFX  3D animation.
 
 
 2014-03-07 11:54 GMT-06:00 Nic Sievers siev...@gmail.com:
 nope, I haven't used it.   I should have specifically said its a rumor, 
 instead of I believe.  
 
 
 On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 9:50 AM, Christopher Crouzet 
 christopher.crou...@gmail.com wrote:
 And I believe you're breaking the NDA here?
 
 
 
 On 7 March 2014 12:47, Nic Sievers siev...@gmail.com wrote:
 I believe Maya 2015 adds a new unfold3D tool...
 
 
 On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 9:37 AM, Manuel Huertas Marchena 
 lito...@hotmail.com wrote:
 uv unfold please!!
 
 ...really dont like maya uv's tools!
 
 
 
 IMDB | Portfolio | Vimeo | Linkedin
 
 
 Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2014 17:30:22 +
 Subject: Re: Maya feature request from Softimage users
 From: sebastien.sterl...@gmail.com
 To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
 
 
 the ability to show/hide components, like in every other DCC ever made.
 
 the ability to relax selections of polygons edges and vertexes.
 
 neither of these should prove to be too difficult... baby steps
 
 
 On 7 March 2014 17:23, Oscar Juarez tridi.animei...@gmail.com wrote:
 You nailed right there Jeremie, basically being flexible when rigging, every 
 day I go splitting geometry, regatoring meshes, and merging again, 
 transfering everything seamlessly.
 
 Multi attribute editor, it's really stupid that when you select multiple 
 things you only see one at a time in the attribute editor, there is the 
 spreadsheet editor but that sucks in comparison.
 
 
 On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 6:11 PM, Jason S jasonsta...@gmail.com wrote:
 Maya 2039 (rewritten)
 
 On 03/07/14 12:06, Mirko Jankovic wrote:
 
 stable non destructive workflow
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 -- 
 Christopher Crouzet
 http://christophercrouzet.com

Re: Maya feature request from Softimage users

Ability to drag and drop objects in the outliner under other objects like
the explorer.

Use the middle mouse button.

Ability to have non transformation groups

You mean like XSI's groups? They're called sets - you can drag things in
but you need to use a Connection Editor to take things out. .


On 7 March 2014 18:22, Emilio Hernandez emi...@e-roja.com wrote:

 Ability to drag and drop objects in the outliner under other objects like
 the explorer.
 Ability to have non transformation groups

 Pfff I am working in Maya right now, as I am required to do so, the list
 is so long as I continue to do stuff.

 ---
 Emilio Hernández   VFX  3D animation.


 2014-03-07 12:18 GMT-06:00 Jason S jasonsta...@gmail.com:

  Problem-solving  without  problem-solving-code-departments

 On 03/07/14 13:15, Emilio Hernandez wrote:

 +1

  ---
 Emilio Hernández   VFX  3D animation.


 2014-03-07 12:14 GMT-06:00 Rob Chapman tekano@gmail.com:

 No icons..?  :D
  On 7 Mar 2014 18:10, Emilio Hernandez emi...@e-roja.com wrote:

 Independency of child parameters from parent objects.  LIke for example
 if you want to hide the parent and leave the child visible, and not spread
 all of this throught the hierarchy.

  ---
 Emilio Hernández   VFX  3D animation.


 2014-03-07 12:05 GMT-06:00 Emilio Hernandez emi...@e-roja.com:

 Ability to change the same parameters in a multi selection objects

  ---
 Emilio Hernández   VFX  3D animation.


  2014-03-07 12:03 GMT-06:00 Adam Sale adamfs...@gmail.com:

  Gator
 Decent set of shatter and sim tools ala implosia and momentum
 Face robot type functionality
   On Mar 7, 2014 10:00 AM, Emilio Hernandez emi...@e-roja.com
 wrote:

 Oh I thought it was mentioned officialy by Autodesk.  If that was
 the case probably will be the opposite.  But if it is a rumor then it 
 might
 be there  We just need like 6 years so it will become true.

  ---
 Emilio Hernández   VFX  3D animation.


 2014-03-07 11:54 GMT-06:00 Nic Sievers siev...@gmail.com:

  nope, I haven't used it.   I should have specifically said its a
 rumor, instead of I believe.


 On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 9:50 AM, Christopher Crouzet 
 christopher.crou...@gmail.com wrote:

 And I believe you're breaking the NDA here?



 On 7 March 2014 12:47, Nic Sievers siev...@gmail.com wrote:

  I believe Maya 2015 adds a new unfold3D tool...


  On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 9:37 AM, Manuel Huertas Marchena 
 lito...@hotmail.com wrote:

  uv unfold please!!

  ...really dont like maya uv's tools!



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  --
 Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2014 17:30:22 +
 Subject: Re: Maya feature request from Softimage users
 From: sebastien.sterl...@gmail.com
 To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com


  the ability to show/hide components, like in every other DCC
 ever made.

  the ability to relax selections of polygons edges and vertexes.

  neither of these should prove to be too difficult... baby steps


 On 7 March 2014 17:23, Oscar Juarez 
 tridi.animei...@gmail.comwrote:

 You nailed right there Jeremie, basically being flexible when
 rigging, every day I go splitting geometry, regatoring meshes, and 
 merging
 again, transfering everything seamlessly.

  Multi attribute editor, it's really stupid that when you
 select multiple things you only see one at a time in the attribute 
 editor,
 there is the spreadsheet editor but that sucks in comparison.


 On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 6:11 PM, Jason S 
 jasonsta...@gmail.comwrote:

  Maya 2039 (rewritten)

 On 03/07/14 12:06, Mirko Jankovic wrote:

 stable non destructive workflow








   --
 Christopher Crouzet
 *http://christophercrouzet.com* http://christophercrouzet.com

Re: Maya feature request from Softimage users

2014-03-07 Thread Jonah Friedman

Guys, guys, let's be reasonable, I only want four things.


1. Rethink the everything is a node floating at the root level thing and
redo it to have nested nodes. It was a noble idea 20 years ago, but
experience has taught us it's a bad idea. Make the node graphs the menu
commands generate actually be readable and editable by humans in all cases,
such as creating a skinning operator.

2. Redo referencing- namespaces are a stupid solution to this problem and
terribly implemented. Make sure it supports nested references.

3. Everything rendering related is based either on the long defunct maya
software renderer, or the world's dodgiest implementation of mental ray. Or
in the case of render layers, make them not be a haphazard and
bizzarely-planned pile of mel that once again creates incomprehensible
spider web graphs. That's not ideal, I'd like these things to not be that.

4. Something to replace ICE. This one is a long shot because I'm not
actually sure they know what ICE is.





On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 1:22 PM, Emilio Hernandez emi...@e-roja.com wrote:

 Ability to drag and drop objects in the outliner under other objects like
 the explorer.
 Ability to have non transformation groups

 Pfff I am working in Maya right now, as I am required to do so, the list
 is so long as I continue to do stuff.

 ---
 Emilio Hernández   VFX  3D animation.


 2014-03-07 12:18 GMT-06:00 Jason S jasonsta...@gmail.com:

  Problem-solving  without  problem-solving-code-departments

 On 03/07/14 13:15, Emilio Hernandez wrote:

 +1

  ---
 Emilio Hernández   VFX  3D animation.


 2014-03-07 12:14 GMT-06:00 Rob Chapman tekano@gmail.com:

 No icons..?  :D
  On 7 Mar 2014 18:10, Emilio Hernandez emi...@e-roja.com wrote:

 Independency of child parameters from parent objects.  LIke for example
 if you want to hide the parent and leave the child visible, and not spread
 all of this throught the hierarchy.

  ---
 Emilio Hernández   VFX  3D animation.


 2014-03-07 12:05 GMT-06:00 Emilio Hernandez emi...@e-roja.com:

 Ability to change the same parameters in a multi selection objects

  ---
 Emilio Hernández   VFX  3D animation.


  2014-03-07 12:03 GMT-06:00 Adam Sale adamfs...@gmail.com:

  Gator
 Decent set of shatter and sim tools ala implosia and momentum
 Face robot type functionality
   On Mar 7, 2014 10:00 AM, Emilio Hernandez emi...@e-roja.com
 wrote:

 Oh I thought it was mentioned officialy by Autodesk.  If that was
 the case probably will be the opposite.  But if it is a rumor then it 
 might
 be there  We just need like 6 years so it will become true.

  ---
 Emilio Hernández   VFX  3D animation.


 2014-03-07 11:54 GMT-06:00 Nic Sievers siev...@gmail.com:

  nope, I haven't used it.   I should have specifically said its a
 rumor, instead of I believe.


 On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 9:50 AM, Christopher Crouzet 
 christopher.crou...@gmail.com wrote:

 And I believe you're breaking the NDA here?



 On 7 March 2014 12:47, Nic Sievers siev...@gmail.com wrote:

  I believe Maya 2015 adds a new unfold3D tool...


  On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 9:37 AM, Manuel Huertas Marchena 
 lito...@hotmail.com wrote:

  uv unfold please!!

  ...really dont like maya uv's tools!



 IMDB http://www.imdb.com/name/nm4755969/ | Portfolio
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  --
 Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2014 17:30:22 +
 Subject: Re: Maya feature request from Softimage users
 From: sebastien.sterl...@gmail.com
 To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com


  the ability to show/hide components, like in every other DCC
 ever made.

  the ability to relax selections of polygons edges and vertexes.

  neither of these should prove to be too difficult... baby steps


 On 7 March 2014 17:23, Oscar Juarez 
 tridi.animei...@gmail.comwrote:

 You nailed right there Jeremie, basically being flexible when
 rigging, every day I go splitting geometry, regatoring meshes, and 
 merging
 again, transfering everything seamlessly.

  Multi attribute editor, it's really stupid that when you
 select multiple things you only see one at a time in the attribute 
 editor,
 there is the spreadsheet editor but that sucks in comparison.


 On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 6:11 PM, Jason S 
 jasonsta...@gmail.comwrote:

  Maya 2039 (rewritten)

 On 03/07/14 12:06, Mirko Jankovic wrote:

 stable non destructive workflow








   --
 Christopher Crouzet
 *http://christophercrouzet.com* http://christophercrouzet.com

Re: Maya feature request from Softimage users

2014-03-07 Thread Siew Yi Liang

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Portfolio

http://envmanu.comhttp://envmanu.carbonmade.com/|
Vimeo

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Linkedin

http://www.linkedin.com/in/manuelhuertas




Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2014
17:30:22 +
Subject: Re: Maya feature
request from Softimage users
From:
sebastien.sterl...@gmail.com
mailto:sebastien.sterl...@gmail.com
To:
softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
mailto:softimage@listproc.autodesk.com



the ability to show/hide
components, like in every
other DCC ever made.

the ability to relax
selections of polygons edges
and vertexes.

neither of these should prove
to be too difficult... baby steps


On 7 March 2014 17:23, Oscar
Juarez
tridi.animei...@gmail.com
mailto:tridi.animei...@gmail.com
wrote:

You nailed right there
Jeremie, basically being
flexible when rigging,
every day I go splitting
geometry, regatoring
meshes, and merging
again, transfering
everything seamlessly.

Multi attribute editor,
it's really stupid that
when you select multiple
things you only see one
at a time in the
attribute editor, there
is the spreadsheet editor
but that sucks in comparison.


On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at
6:11 PM, Jason S
jasonsta...@gmail.com
mailto:jasonsta...@gmail.com
wrote:

Maya 2039 (rewritten)

On 03/07/14 12:06,
Mirko Jankovic wrote:

stable non
destructive workflow








-- 
Christopher Crouzet

/http://christophercrouzet.com/

Re: Maya feature request from Softimage users

+1

---
Emilio Hernández   VFX  3D animation.


2014-03-07 12:14 GMT-06:00 Rob Chapman tekano@gmail.com:

 No icons..?  :D
 On 7 Mar 2014 18:10, Emilio Hernandez emi...@e-roja.com wrote:

 Independency of child parameters from parent objects.  LIke for example
 if you want to hide the parent and leave the child visible, and not spread
 all of this throught the hierarchy.

 ---
 Emilio Hernández   VFX  3D animation.


 2014-03-07 12:05 GMT-06:00 Emilio Hernandez emi...@e-roja.com:

 Ability to change the same parameters in a multi selection objects

 ---
 Emilio Hernández   VFX  3D animation.


 2014-03-07 12:03 GMT-06:00 Adam Sale adamfs...@gmail.com:

 Gator
 Decent set of shatter and sim tools ala implosia and momentum
 Face robot type functionality
  On Mar 7, 2014 10:00 AM, Emilio Hernandez emi...@e-roja.com wrote:

 Oh I thought it was mentioned officialy by Autodesk.  If that was
 the case probably will be the opposite.  But if it is a rumor then it 
 might
 be there  We just need like 6 years so it will become true.

 ---
 Emilio Hernández   VFX  3D animation.


 2014-03-07 11:54 GMT-06:00 Nic Sievers siev...@gmail.com:

 nope, I haven't used it.   I should have specifically said its a
 rumor, instead of I believe.


 On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 9:50 AM, Christopher Crouzet 
 christopher.crou...@gmail.com wrote:

 And I believe you're breaking the NDA here?



 On 7 March 2014 12:47, Nic Sievers siev...@gmail.com wrote:

 I believe Maya 2015 adds a new unfold3D tool...


 On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 9:37 AM, Manuel Huertas Marchena 
 lito...@hotmail.com wrote:

 uv unfold please!!

 ...really dont like maya uv's tools!



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 --
 Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2014 17:30:22 +
 Subject: Re: Maya feature request from Softimage users
 From: sebastien.sterl...@gmail.com
 To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com


 the ability to show/hide components, like in every other DCC ever
 made.

 the ability to relax selections of polygons edges and vertexes.

 neither of these should prove to be too difficult... baby steps


 On 7 March 2014 17:23, Oscar Juarez tridi.animei...@gmail.comwrote:

 You nailed right there Jeremie, basically being flexible when
 rigging, every day I go splitting geometry, regatoring meshes, and 
 merging
 again, transfering everything seamlessly.

 Multi attribute editor, it's really stupid that when you select
 multiple things you only see one at a time in the attribute editor, 
 there
 is the spreadsheet editor but that sucks in comparison.


 On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 6:11 PM, Jason S jasonsta...@gmail.comwrote:

  Maya 2039 (rewritten)

 On 03/07/14 12:06, Mirko Jankovic wrote:

 stable non destructive workflow








 --
 Christopher Crouzet
 *http://christophercrouzet.com* http://christophercrouzet.com

Re: Maya feature request from Softimage users

Well I just tried to use the middle mouse button in the outliner and it
does not work.

Yes, then you need to get the connection editor to remove things

---
Emilio Hernández   VFX  3D animation.


2014-03-07 12:25 GMT-06:00 Peter Agg peter@googlemail.com:

 Ability to drag and drop objects in the outliner under other objects like
 the explorer.

 Use the middle mouse button.


 Ability to have non transformation groups

 You mean like XSI's groups? They're called sets - you can drag things in
 but you need to use a Connection Editor to take things out. .


 On 7 March 2014 18:22, Emilio Hernandez emi...@e-roja.com wrote:

 Ability to drag and drop objects in the outliner under other objects like
 the explorer.
 Ability to have non transformation groups

 Pfff I am working in Maya right now, as I am required to do so, the list
 is so long as I continue to do stuff.

 ---
 Emilio Hernández   VFX  3D animation.


 2014-03-07 12:18 GMT-06:00 Jason S jasonsta...@gmail.com:

  Problem-solving  without  problem-solving-code-departments

 On 03/07/14 13:15, Emilio Hernandez wrote:

 +1

  ---
 Emilio Hernández   VFX  3D animation.


 2014-03-07 12:14 GMT-06:00 Rob Chapman tekano@gmail.com:

 No icons..?  :D
  On 7 Mar 2014 18:10, Emilio Hernandez emi...@e-roja.com wrote:

 Independency of child parameters from parent objects.  LIke for
 example if you want to hide the parent and leave the child visible, and 
 not
 spread all of this throught the hierarchy.

  ---
 Emilio Hernández   VFX  3D animation.


 2014-03-07 12:05 GMT-06:00 Emilio Hernandez emi...@e-roja.com:

 Ability to change the same parameters in a multi selection objects

  ---
 Emilio Hernández   VFX  3D animation.


  2014-03-07 12:03 GMT-06:00 Adam Sale adamfs...@gmail.com:

  Gator
 Decent set of shatter and sim tools ala implosia and momentum
 Face robot type functionality
   On Mar 7, 2014 10:00 AM, Emilio Hernandez emi...@e-roja.com
 wrote:

 Oh I thought it was mentioned officialy by Autodesk.  If that was
 the case probably will be the opposite.  But if it is a rumor then it 
 might
 be there  We just need like 6 years so it will become true.

  ---
 Emilio Hernández   VFX  3D animation.


 2014-03-07 11:54 GMT-06:00 Nic Sievers siev...@gmail.com:

  nope, I haven't used it.   I should have specifically said its a
 rumor, instead of I believe.


 On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 9:50 AM, Christopher Crouzet 
 christopher.crou...@gmail.com wrote:

 And I believe you're breaking the NDA here?



 On 7 March 2014 12:47, Nic Sievers siev...@gmail.com wrote:

  I believe Maya 2015 adds a new unfold3D tool...


  On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 9:37 AM, Manuel Huertas Marchena 
 lito...@hotmail.com wrote:

  uv unfold please!!

  ...really dont like maya uv's tools!



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  --
 Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2014 17:30:22 +
 Subject: Re: Maya feature request from Softimage users
 From: sebastien.sterl...@gmail.com
 To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com


  the ability to show/hide components, like in every other DCC
 ever made.

  the ability to relax selections of polygons edges and vertexes.

  neither of these should prove to be too difficult... baby steps


 On 7 March 2014 17:23, Oscar Juarez 
 tridi.animei...@gmail.comwrote:

 You nailed right there Jeremie, basically being flexible when
 rigging, every day I go splitting geometry, regatoring meshes, and 
 merging
 again, transfering everything seamlessly.

  Multi attribute editor, it's really stupid that when you
 select multiple things you only see one at a time in the attribute 
 editor,
 there is the spreadsheet editor but that sucks in comparison.


 On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 6:11 PM, Jason S 
 jasonsta...@gmail.comwrote:

  Maya 2039 (rewritten)

 On 03/07/14 12:06, Mirko Jankovic wrote:

 stable non destructive workflow








   --
 Christopher Crouzet
 *http://christophercrouzet.com* http://christophercrouzet.com

Re: Maya feature request from Softimage users

On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 1:22 PM, Emilio Hernandez emi...@e-roja.com wrote:
 Ability to drag and drop objects in the outliner under other objects like
 the explorer.

remember that drag and drop in Maya is on the Middle Mouse button,
then check again if you can't do it.  Drag and drop an object onto an
other to make it child

 Ability to have non transformation groups

sorry, what's the difference between this and Sets?

 Pfff I am working in Maya right now, as I am required to do so, the list is
 so long as I continue to do stuff.

Re: Maya feature request from Softimage users

To get into the connection editor to remove things?

And I am sorry but the middle mouse button is not working.

---
Emilio Hernández   VFX  3D animation.


2014-03-07 12:30 GMT-06:00 Luc-Eric Rousseau luceri...@gmail.com:

 On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 1:22 PM, Emilio Hernandez emi...@e-roja.com
 wrote:
  Ability to drag and drop objects in the outliner under other objects like
  the explorer.

 remember that drag and drop in Maya is on the Middle Mouse button,
 then check again if you can't do it.  Drag and drop an object onto an
 other to make it child

  Ability to have non transformation groups

 sorry, what's the difference between this and Sets?

  Pfff I am working in Maya right now, as I am required to do so, the list
 is
  so long as I continue to do stuff.

Re: Maya feature request from Softimage users


Who's looking for Autodesk understanding?

Expecting AutoBorg to have understanding is indeed futile.


On 03/07/14 13:25, Jordi Bares wrote:
The more I read the more futile the effort seems… there is absolutely 
no way Autodesk is going to understand it…


:-P

Sorry for ruining the party..

Jordi Bares
jordiba...@gmail.com mailto:jordiba...@gmail.com

Re: Maya feature request from Softimage users

2014-03-07 Thread Ponthieux, Joseph G. (LARC-E1A)[LITES]

Well I just tried to use the middle mouse button in the outliner and it
does not work.

Well, it certainly should!

http://download.autodesk.com/global/docs/maya2014/en_us/index.html?url=files/Nodes_and_attributes_View_and_edit_the_hierarchy_of_nodes.htm,topicNumber=d30e25645

On 7 March 2014 18:28, Emilio Hernandez emi...@e-roja.com wrote:

Well I just tried to use the middle mouse button in the outliner and it
does not work.

Yes, then you need to get the connection editor to remove things

---
Emilio Hernández VFX 3D animation.

2014-03-07 12:25 GMT-06:00 Peter Agg peter@googlemail.com:

Ability to drag and drop objects in the outliner under other objects like
the explorer.

Use the middle mouse button.

Ability to have non transformation groups

You mean like XSI's groups? They're called sets - you can drag things in
but you need to use a Connection Editor to take things out. .

On 7 March 2014 18:22, Emilio Hernandez emi...@e-roja.com wrote:

Ability to drag and drop objects in the outliner under other objects
like the explorer.
Ability to have non transformation groups

Pfff I am working in Maya right now, as I am required to do so, the list
is so long as I continue to do stuff.

---
Emilio Hernández VFX 3D animation.

2014-03-07 12:18 GMT-06:00 Jason S jasonsta...@gmail.com:

Problem-solving without problem-solving-code-departments

On 03/07/14 13:15, Emilio Hernandez wrote:

---
Emilio Hernández VFX 3D animation.

2014-03-07 12:14 GMT-06:00 Rob Chapman tekano@gmail.com:

No icons..? :D
On 7 Mar 2014 18:10, Emilio Hernandez emi...@e-roja.com wrote:

Independency of child parameters from parent objects. LIke for
example if you want to hide the parent and leave the child visible, and
not
spread all of this throught the hierarchy.

---
Emilio Hernández VFX 3D animation.

2014-03-07 12:05 GMT-06:00 Emilio Hernandez emi...@e-roja.com:

Ability to change the same parameters in a multi selection objects

---
Emilio Hernández VFX 3D animation.

2014-03-07 12:03 GMT-06:00 Adam Sale adamfs...@gmail.com:

Gator
Decent set of shatter and sim tools ala implosia and momentum
Face robot type functionality
On Mar 7, 2014 10:00 AM, Emilio Hernandez emi...@e-roja.com
wrote:

Oh I thought it was mentioned officialy by Autodesk. If that
was the case probably will be the opposite. But if it is a rumor
then it
might be there We just need like 6 years so it will become true.

---
Emilio Hernández VFX 3D animation.

2014-03-07 11:54 GMT-06:00 Nic Sievers siev...@gmail.com:

nope, I haven't used it. I should have specifically said its
a rumor, instead of I believe.

On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 9:50 AM, Christopher Crouzet
christopher.crou...@gmail.com wrote:

And I believe you're breaking the NDA here?

On 7 March 2014 12:47, Nic Sievers siev...@gmail.com wrote:

I believe Maya 2015 adds a new unfold3D tool...

On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 9:37 AM, Manuel Huertas Marchena
lito...@hotmail.com wrote:

uv unfold please!!

...really dont like maya uv's tools!

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http://envmanu.com http://envmanu.carbonmade.com/|
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--
Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2014 17:30:22 +
Subject: Re: Maya feature request from Softimage users
From: sebastien.sterl...@gmail.com
To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com

the ability to show/hide components, like in every other DCC
ever made.

the ability to relax selections of polygons edges and
vertexes.

neither of these should prove to be too difficult... baby
steps

On 7 March 2014 17:23, Oscar Juarez tridi.animei...@gmail.com
wrote:

You nailed right there Jeremie, basically being flexible when
rigging, every day I go splitting geometry, regatoring meshes,
and merging
again, transfering everything seamlessly.

Multi attribute editor, it's really stupid that when you
select multiple things you only see one at a time in the
attribute editor,
there is the spreadsheet editor but that sucks in comparison.

On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 6:11 PM, Jason S jasonsta...@gmail.com
wrote:

Maya 2039 (rewritten)

On 03/07/14 12:06, Mirko Jankovic wrote:

stable non destructive workflow

--
Christopher Crouzet
*http://christophercrouzet.com* http://christophercrouzet.com

Re: Maya feature request from Softimage users

2014-03-07 Thread Eric Thivierge

Middle mouse button does work. Been using it for 6 months or so. It's 
most likely user error or maybe your mouse doesn't have a middle mouse 
button? :P


On Friday, March 07, 2014 1:33:22 PM, Jason S wrote:

Who's looking for Autodesk understanding?

Expecting AutoBorg to have understanding is indeed futile.


On 03/07/14 13:25, Jordi Bares wrote:

The more I read the more futile the effort seems… there is absolutely
no way Autodesk is going to understand it…

:-P

Sorry for ruining the party..

Jordi Bares
jordiba...@gmail.com mailto:jordiba...@gmail.com

RE: Maya feature request from Softimage users

Unfortunately that is an issue that preceded AD.

--
Joey Ponthieux
LaRC Information Technology Enhanced Services (LITES)
Mymic Technical Services
NASA Langley Research Center
__
Opinions stated here-in are strictly those of the author and do not
represent the opinions of NASA or any other party.

From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com 
[mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Jordi Bares
Sent: Friday, March 07, 2014 1:25 PM
To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
Subject: Re: Maya feature request from Softimage users

The more I read the more futile the effort seems... there is absolutely no way 
Autodesk is going to understand it...

:-P

Sorry for ruining the party..

Jordi Bares
jordiba...@gmail.commailto:jordiba...@gmail.com

On 7 Mar 2014, at 18:22, Emilio Hernandez 
emi...@e-roja.commailto:emi...@e-roja.com wrote:


Ability to drag and drop objects in the outliner under other objects like the 
explorer.
Ability to have non transformation groups
Pfff I am working in Maya right now, as I am required to do so, the list is so 
long as I continue to do stuff.

---
Emilio Hernández   VFX  3D animation.

2014-03-07 12:18 GMT-06:00 Jason S 
jasonsta...@gmail.commailto:jasonsta...@gmail.com:
Problem-solving  without  problem-solving-code-departments

On 03/07/14 13:15, Emilio Hernandez wrote:
+1

---
Emilio Hernández   VFX  3D animation.

2014-03-07 12:14 GMT-06:00 Rob Chapman 
tekano@gmail.commailto:tekano@gmail.com:

No icons..?  :D
On 7 Mar 2014 18:10, Emilio Hernandez 
emi...@e-roja.commailto:emi...@e-roja.com wrote:
Independency of child parameters from parent objects.  LIke for example if you 
want to hide the parent and leave the child visible, and not spread all of this 
throught the hierarchy.

---
Emilio Hernández   VFX  3D animation.

2014-03-07 12:05 GMT-06:00 Emilio Hernandez 
emi...@e-roja.commailto:emi...@e-roja.com:
Ability to change the same parameters in a multi selection objects

---
Emilio Hernández   VFX  3D animation.

2014-03-07 12:03 GMT-06:00 Adam Sale 
adamfs...@gmail.commailto:adamfs...@gmail.com:


Gator
Decent set of shatter and sim tools ala implosia and momentum
Face robot type functionality
On Mar 7, 2014 10:00 AM, Emilio Hernandez 
emi...@e-roja.commailto:emi...@e-roja.com wrote:
Oh I thought it was mentioned officialy by Autodesk.  If that was the case 
probably will be the opposite.  But if it is a rumor then it might be there 
 We just need like 6 years so it will become true.

---
Emilio Hernández   VFX  3D animation.

2014-03-07 11:54 GMT-06:00 Nic Sievers 
siev...@gmail.commailto:siev...@gmail.com:
nope, I haven't used it.   I should have specifically said its a rumor, instead 
of I believe.

On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 9:50 AM, Christopher Crouzet 
christopher.crou...@gmail.commailto:christopher.crou...@gmail.com wrote:
And I believe you're breaking the NDA here?


On 7 March 2014 12:47, Nic Sievers 
siev...@gmail.commailto:siev...@gmail.com wrote:
I believe Maya 2015 adds a new unfold3D tool...

On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 9:37 AM, Manuel Huertas Marchena 
lito...@hotmail.commailto:lito...@hotmail.com wrote:
uv unfold please!!

...really dont like maya uv's tools!



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Linkedinhttp://www.linkedin.com/in/manuelhuertas


Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2014 17:30:22 +
Subject: Re: Maya feature request from Softimage users
From: sebastien.sterl...@gmail.commailto:sebastien.sterl...@gmail.com
To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.commailto:softimage@listproc.autodesk.com

the ability to show/hide components, like in every other DCC ever made.
the ability to relax selections of polygons edges and vertexes.
neither of these should prove to be too difficult... baby steps

On 7 March 2014 17:23, Oscar Juarez 
tridi.animei...@gmail.commailto:tridi.animei...@gmail.com wrote:
You nailed right there Jeremie, basically being flexible when rigging, every 
day I go splitting geometry, regatoring meshes, and merging again, transfering 
everything seamlessly.

Multi attribute editor, it's really stupid that when you select multiple things 
you only see one at a time in the attribute editor, there is the spreadsheet 
editor but that sucks in comparison.

On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 6:11 PM, Jason S 
jasonsta...@gmail.commailto:jasonsta...@gmail.com wrote:
Maya 2039 (rewritten)

On 03/07/14 12:06, Mirko Jankovic wrote:

stable non destructive workflow







--
Christopher Crouzet
http://christophercrouzet.comhttp://christophercrouzet.com/

Re: Maya feature request from Softimage users

Oh that is a new feature in 2014?

If that is so I am in 2013.

---
Emilio Hernández VFX 3D animation.

2014-03-07 12:33 GMT-06:00 Peter Agg peter@googlemail.com:

Well I just tried to use the middle mouse button in the outliner and it
does not work.

Well, it certainly should!

http://download.autodesk.com/global/docs/maya2014/en_us/index.html?url=files/Nodes_and_attributes_View_and_edit_the_hierarchy_of_nodes.htm,topicNumber=d30e25645

On 7 March 2014 18:28, Emilio Hernandez emi...@e-roja.com wrote:

Well I just tried to use the middle mouse button in the outliner and it
does not work.

Yes, then you need to get the connection editor to remove things

---
Emilio Hernández VFX 3D animation.

2014-03-07 12:25 GMT-06:00 Peter Agg peter@googlemail.com:

Ability to drag and drop objects in the outliner under other objects
like the explorer.

Use the middle mouse button.

Ability to have non transformation groups

You mean like XSI's groups? They're called sets - you can drag things in
but you need to use a Connection Editor to take things out. .

On 7 March 2014 18:22, Emilio Hernandez emi...@e-roja.com wrote:

Ability to drag and drop objects in the outliner under other objects
like the explorer.
Ability to have non transformation groups

Pfff I am working in Maya right now, as I am required to do so, the
list is so long as I continue to do stuff.

---
Emilio Hernández VFX 3D animation.

2014-03-07 12:18 GMT-06:00 Jason S jasonsta...@gmail.com:

Problem-solving without problem-solving-code-departments

On 03/07/14 13:15, Emilio Hernandez wrote:

---
Emilio Hernández VFX 3D animation.

2014-03-07 12:14 GMT-06:00 Rob Chapman tekano@gmail.com:

No icons..? :D
On 7 Mar 2014 18:10, Emilio Hernandez emi...@e-roja.com wrote:

Independency of child parameters from parent objects. LIke for
example if you want to hide the parent and leave the child visible, and
not
spread all of this throught the hierarchy.

---
Emilio Hernández VFX 3D animation.

2014-03-07 12:05 GMT-06:00 Emilio Hernandez emi...@e-roja.com:

Ability to change the same parameters in a multi selection objects

---
Emilio Hernández VFX 3D animation.

2014-03-07 12:03 GMT-06:00 Adam Sale adamfs...@gmail.com:

Gator
Decent set of shatter and sim tools ala implosia and momentum
Face robot type functionality
On Mar 7, 2014 10:00 AM, Emilio Hernandez emi...@e-roja.com
wrote:

Oh I thought it was mentioned officialy by Autodesk. If that
was the case probably will be the opposite. But if it is a rumor
then it
might be there We just need like 6 years so it will become true.

---
Emilio Hernández VFX 3D animation.

2014-03-07 11:54 GMT-06:00 Nic Sievers siev...@gmail.com:

nope, I haven't used it. I should have specifically said its
a rumor, instead of I believe.

On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 9:50 AM, Christopher Crouzet
christopher.crou...@gmail.com wrote:

And I believe you're breaking the NDA here?

On 7 March 2014 12:47, Nic Sievers siev...@gmail.com wrote:

I believe Maya 2015 adds a new unfold3D tool...

On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 9:37 AM, Manuel Huertas Marchena
lito...@hotmail.com wrote:

uv unfold please!!

...really dont like maya uv's tools!

IMDB http://www.imdb.com/name/nm4755969/ | Portfolio
http://envmanu.com http://envmanu.carbonmade.com/|
Vimeohttp://vimeo.com/manuelhuertasmarchena|
Linkedin http://www.linkedin.com/in/manuelhuertas

--
Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2014 17:30:22 +
Subject: Re: Maya feature request from Softimage users
From: sebastien.sterl...@gmail.com
To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com

the ability to show/hide components, like in every other
DCC ever made.

the ability to relax selections of polygons edges and
vertexes.

neither of these should prove to be too difficult... baby
steps

On 7 March 2014 17:23, Oscar Juarez
tridi.animei...@gmail.com wrote:

You nailed right there Jeremie, basically being flexible when
rigging, every day I go splitting geometry, regatoring meshes,
and merging
again, transfering everything seamlessly.

Multi attribute editor, it's really stupid that when you
select multiple things you only see one at a time in the
attribute editor,
there is the spreadsheet editor but that sucks in comparison.

On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 6:11 PM, Jason S
jasonsta...@gmail.com wrote:

Maya 2039 (rewritten)

On 03/07/14 12:06, Mirko Jankovic wrote:

stable non destructive workflow

--
Christopher Crouzet
*http://christophercrouzet.com* http

Re: Maya feature request from Softimage users

Well Eric it is not working for me in 2013.  I don't if has something to do
with preferences.  I have no need to lie.

---
Emilio Hernández   VFX  3D animation.


2014-03-07 12:35 GMT-06:00 Eric Thivierge ethivie...@hybride.com:

 Middle mouse button does work. Been using it for 6 months or so. It's most
 likely user error or maybe your mouse doesn't have a middle mouse button? :P


 On Friday, March 07, 2014 1:33:22 PM, Jason S wrote:

 Who's looking for Autodesk understanding?

 Expecting AutoBorg to have understanding is indeed futile.


 On 03/07/14 13:25, Jordi Bares wrote:

 The more I read the more futile the effort seems... there is absolutely
 no way Autodesk is going to understand it...

 :-P

 Sorry for ruining the party..

 Jordi Bares
 jordiba...@gmail.com mailto:jordiba...@gmail.com

Re: Maya feature request from Softimage users

Nope, it's been the default behaviour for ages. Certainly in 2013.

On 7 March 2014 18:36, Emilio Hernandez emi...@e-roja.com wrote:

Oh that is a new feature in 2014?

If that is so I am in 2013.

---
Emilio Hernández VFX 3D animation.

2014-03-07 12:33 GMT-06:00 Peter Agg peter@googlemail.com:

Well I just tried to use the middle mouse button in the outliner and it
does not work.

Well, it certainly should!

http://download.autodesk.com/global/docs/maya2014/en_us/index.html?url=files/Nodes_and_attributes_View_and_edit_the_hierarchy_of_nodes.htm,topicNumber=d30e25645

On 7 March 2014 18:28, Emilio Hernandez emi...@e-roja.com wrote:

Well I just tried to use the middle mouse button in the outliner and it
does not work.

Yes, then you need to get the connection editor to remove things

---
Emilio Hernández VFX 3D animation.

2014-03-07 12:25 GMT-06:00 Peter Agg peter@googlemail.com:

Ability to drag and drop objects in the outliner under other objects
like the explorer.

Use the middle mouse button.

Ability to have non transformation groups

You mean like XSI's groups? They're called sets - you can drag things
in but you need to use a Connection Editor to take things out. .

On 7 March 2014 18:22, Emilio Hernandez emi...@e-roja.com wrote:

Ability to drag and drop objects in the outliner under other objects
like the explorer.
Ability to have non transformation groups

Pfff I am working in Maya right now, as I am required to do so, the
list is so long as I continue to do stuff.

---
Emilio Hernández VFX 3D animation.

2014-03-07 12:18 GMT-06:00 Jason S jasonsta...@gmail.com:

Problem-solving without problem-solving-code-departments

On 03/07/14 13:15, Emilio Hernandez wrote:

---
Emilio Hernández VFX 3D animation.

2014-03-07 12:14 GMT-06:00 Rob Chapman tekano@gmail.com:

No icons..? :D
On 7 Mar 2014 18:10, Emilio Hernandez emi...@e-roja.com wrote:

Independency of child parameters from parent objects. LIke for
example if you want to hide the parent and leave the child visible,
and not
spread all of this throught the hierarchy.

---
Emilio Hernández VFX 3D animation.

2014-03-07 12:05 GMT-06:00 Emilio Hernandez emi...@e-roja.com:

Ability to change the same parameters in a multi selection objects

---
Emilio Hernández VFX 3D animation.

2014-03-07 12:03 GMT-06:00 Adam Sale adamfs...@gmail.com:

Gator
Decent set of shatter and sim tools ala implosia and momentum
Face robot type functionality
On Mar 7, 2014 10:00 AM, Emilio Hernandez emi...@e-roja.com
wrote:

Oh I thought it was mentioned officialy by Autodesk. If that
was the case probably will be the opposite. But if it is a rumor
then it
might be there We just need like 6 years so it will become
true.

---
Emilio Hernández VFX 3D animation.

2014-03-07 11:54 GMT-06:00 Nic Sievers siev...@gmail.com:

nope, I haven't used it. I should have specifically said
its a rumor, instead of I believe.

On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 9:50 AM, Christopher Crouzet
christopher.crou...@gmail.com wrote:

And I believe you're breaking the NDA here?

On 7 March 2014 12:47, Nic Sievers siev...@gmail.com wrote:

I believe Maya 2015 adds a new unfold3D tool...

On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 9:37 AM, Manuel Huertas Marchena
lito...@hotmail.com wrote:

uv unfold please!!

...really dont like maya uv's tools!

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--
Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2014 17:30:22 +
Subject: Re: Maya feature request from Softimage users
From: sebastien.sterl...@gmail.com
To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com

the ability to show/hide components, like in every other
DCC ever made.

the ability to relax selections of polygons edges and
vertexes.

neither of these should prove to be too difficult... baby
steps

On 7 March 2014 17:23, Oscar Juarez
tridi.animei...@gmail.com wrote:

You nailed right there Jeremie, basically being flexible
when rigging, every day I go splitting geometry, regatoring
meshes, and
merging again, transfering everything seamlessly.

Multi attribute editor, it's really stupid that when you
select multiple things you only see one at a time in the
attribute editor,
there is the spreadsheet editor but that sucks in comparison.

On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 6:11 PM, Jason S
jasonsta...@gmail.com wrote:

Maya 2039 (rewritten)

On 03

Re: Maya feature request from Softimage users

2014-03-07 Thread Steven Caron

from what i understand, keep in mind i am no maya expert, some of those
things are available already...

gator = attribute transfer http://goo.gl/zFQ0Py
operator stack reordering = deformation order http://goo.gl/nHzWJF


On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 8:59 AM, Jeremie Passerin gerem@gmail.comwrote:

 Hey guys...

 What do you want to see added to Maya ?
 Autodesk is saying they will add Softimage features to the other
 packages... What is that ?

 As a Rigger, here is what I will miss the most

 - Gator
 - ICE : Especially to create custom deformers
 - Proper weights painting tools
 - Weights Editor !
 - The Operator Stack, reorder, delete operator...
 - Being able to change modeling whith Envelope, Shapes already applied to
 the mesh
 - Blend shape workflow

 I would really like to hear Autodesk plan to incorporate some of those
 features in Maya.
 I'm guessing there not all super easy to merge, but some of them would be
 considered as amazing new feature by the Maya users.

 J/

Re: Maya feature request from Softimage users

On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 11:59 AM, Jeremie Passerin gerem@gmail.com wrote:
 I would really like to hear Autodesk plan to incorporate some of those
 features in Maya.
 I'm guessing there not all super easy to merge, but some of them would be
 considered as amazing new feature by the Maya users.

we have been furiously collecting feedback about what's missing in
Maya from a Softimage point of view.
Can't talk about the action plans, but we welcome the feedback, it is
not futile.

Re: Maya feature request from Softimage users

Yeah, but they're kind of like painting a pinto red and slapping a horse
sticker on it and calling it a Ferrari.
The attribute transfer will usually give people cancer, and the stack
reordering will garble your scene into oblivion every other day due to the
fact the graph underneath is just not very friendly to re-ordering most of
the time.


On Sat, Mar 8, 2014 at 5:39 AM, Steven Caron car...@gmail.com wrote:

 from what i understand, keep in mind i am no maya expert, some of those
 things are available already...

 gator = attribute transfer http://goo.gl/zFQ0Py
 operator stack reordering = deformation order http://goo.gl/nHzWJF


 On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 8:59 AM, Jeremie Passerin gerem@gmail.comwrote:

 Hey guys...

 What do you want to see added to Maya ?
 Autodesk is saying they will add Softimage features to the other
 packages... What is that ?

 As a Rigger, here is what I will miss the most

 - Gator
 - ICE : Especially to create custom deformers
 - Proper weights painting tools
 - Weights Editor !
 - The Operator Stack, reorder, delete operator...
 - Being able to change modeling whith Envelope, Shapes already applied to
 the mesh
 - Blend shape workflow

 I would really like to hear Autodesk plan to incorporate some of those
 features in Maya.
 I'm guessing there not all super easy to merge, but some of them would be
 considered as amazing new feature by the Maya users.

 J/





-- 
Our users will know fear and cower before our software! Ship it! Ship it
and let them flee like the dogs they are!

Re: Maya feature request from Softimage users

Thanks Siew. Now it is working.  Didn't realize that swithing a display
mode will make things work different in the outliner.

---
Emilio Hernández   VFX  3D animation.


2014-03-07 12:37 GMT-06:00 Siew Yi Liang soni...@gmail.com:

  Hello Emilio:

 Make sure that in the Outliner, you have the scene organized by Scene
 Hierarchy, not Alphabetical (Display  Sort order  Scene hierarchy). You
 should be able to re-order objects in the outliner using MMB then!

  Yours sincerely,
 Siew Yi Liang

 On 3/7/2014 10:28 AM, Emilio Hernandez wrote:

  Well I just tried to use the middle mouse button in the outliner and it
 does not work.

  Yes, then you need to get the connection editor to remove things

  ---
 Emilio Hernández   VFX  3D animation.


 2014-03-07 12:25 GMT-06:00 Peter Agg peter@googlemail.com:

   Ability to drag and drop objects in the outliner under other objects
 like the explorer.

  Use the middle mouse button.


 Ability to have non transformation groups

  You mean like XSI's groups? They're called sets - you can drag things
 in but you need to use a Connection Editor to take things out. .


  On 7 March 2014 18:22, Emilio Hernandez emi...@e-roja.com wrote:

  Ability to drag and drop objects in the outliner under other objects
 like the explorer.
  Ability to have non transformation groups

  Pfff I am working in Maya right now, as I am required to do so, the
 list is so long as I continue to do stuff.

  ---
 Emilio Hernández   VFX  3D animation.


  2014-03-07 12:18 GMT-06:00 Jason S jasonsta...@gmail.com:

   Problem-solving  without  problem-solving-code-departments

 On 03/07/14 13:15, Emilio Hernandez wrote:

 +1

  ---
 Emilio Hernández   VFX  3D animation.


 2014-03-07 12:14 GMT-06:00 Rob Chapman tekano@gmail.com:

 No icons..?  :D
  On 7 Mar 2014 18:10, Emilio Hernandez emi...@e-roja.com wrote:

 Independency of child parameters from parent objects.  LIke for
 example if you want to hide the parent and leave the child visible, and 
 not
 spread all of this throught the hierarchy.

  ---
 Emilio Hernández   VFX  3D animation.


 2014-03-07 12:05 GMT-06:00 Emilio Hernandez emi...@e-roja.com:

 Ability to change the same parameters in a multi selection objects

  ---
 Emilio Hernández   VFX  3D animation.


  2014-03-07 12:03 GMT-06:00 Adam Sale adamfs...@gmail.com:

  Gator
 Decent set of shatter and sim tools ala implosia and momentum
 Face robot type functionality
   On Mar 7, 2014 10:00 AM, Emilio Hernandez emi...@e-roja.com
 wrote:

 Oh I thought it was mentioned officialy by Autodesk.  If that
 was the case probably will be the opposite.  But if it is a rumor 
 then it
 might be there  We just need like 6 years so it will become true.

  ---
 Emilio Hernández   VFX  3D animation.


 2014-03-07 11:54 GMT-06:00 Nic Sievers siev...@gmail.com:

  nope, I haven't used it.   I should have specifically said its
 a rumor, instead of I believe.


 On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 9:50 AM, Christopher Crouzet 
 christopher.crou...@gmail.com wrote:

 And I believe you're breaking the NDA here?



 On 7 March 2014 12:47, Nic Sievers siev...@gmail.com wrote:

  I believe Maya 2015 adds a new unfold3D tool...


  On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 9:37 AM, Manuel Huertas Marchena 
 lito...@hotmail.com wrote:

  uv unfold please!!

  ...really dont like maya uv's tools!



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  --
 Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2014 17:30:22 +
 Subject: Re: Maya feature request from Softimage users
 From: sebastien.sterl...@gmail.com
 To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com


  the ability to show/hide components, like in every other DCC
 ever made.

  the ability to relax selections of polygons edges and
 vertexes.

  neither of these should prove to be too difficult... baby
 steps


 On 7 March 2014 17:23, Oscar Juarez tridi.animei...@gmail.com
  wrote:

 You nailed right there Jeremie, basically being flexible when
 rigging, every day I go splitting geometry, regatoring meshes, 
 and merging
 again, transfering everything seamlessly.

  Multi attribute editor, it's really stupid that when you
 select multiple things you only see one at a time in the 
 attribute editor,
 there is the spreadsheet editor but that sucks in comparison.


 On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 6:11 PM, Jason S jasonsta...@gmail.com
  wrote:

  Maya 2039 (rewritten)

 On 03/07/14 12:06, Mirko Jankovic wrote:

 stable non destructive workflow








   --
 Christopher Crouzet

Re: Maya feature request from Softimage users

That's good to hear.
I never heard of that nor was asked anything, nor know of any of my
connections having been feedbacked much, but I'm glad to hear you've been
furiously asking whoever.


On Sat, Mar 8, 2014 at 5:41 AM, Luc-Eric Rousseau luceri...@gmail.comwrote:

 On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 11:59 AM, Jeremie Passerin gerem@gmail.com
 wrote:
  I would really like to hear Autodesk plan to incorporate some of those
  features in Maya.
  I'm guessing there not all super easy to merge, but some of them would be
  considered as amazing new feature by the Maya users.

 we have been furiously collecting feedback about what's missing in
 Maya from a Softimage point of view.
 Can't talk about the action plans, but we welcome the feedback, it is
 not futile.




-- 
Our users will know fear and cower before our software! Ship it! Ship it
and let them flee like the dogs they are!

Re: Maya feature request from Softimage users

2014-03-07 Thread Dave Thomlison

Ability to open more than one outliner?


On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 1:41 PM, Luc-Eric Rousseau luceri...@gmail.comwrote:

 On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 11:59 AM, Jeremie Passerin gerem@gmail.com
 wrote:
  I would really like to hear Autodesk plan to incorporate some of those
  features in Maya.
  I'm guessing there not all super easy to merge, but some of them would be
  considered as amazing new feature by the Maya users.

 we have been furiously collecting feedback about what's missing in
 Maya from a Softimage point of view.
 Can't talk about the action plans, but we welcome the feedback, it is
 not futile.




-- 
Dave Thomlison

Re: Maya feature request from Softimage users

Ability to open more than one outliner?

If you want a quick workaround then you can go to 'Panels' and click on
'Tear off Copy'.

I didn't realise that about the MMB parenting either! That's... not a good
feature.


On 7 March 2014 18:44, Dave Thomlison dthomli...@gmail.com wrote:

 Ability to open more than one outliner?


 On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 1:41 PM, Luc-Eric Rousseau luceri...@gmail.comwrote:

 On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 11:59 AM, Jeremie Passerin gerem@gmail.com
 wrote:
  I would really like to hear Autodesk plan to incorporate some of those
  features in Maya.
  I'm guessing there not all super easy to merge, but some of them would
 be
  considered as amazing new feature by the Maya users.

 we have been furiously collecting feedback about what's missing in
 Maya from a Softimage point of view.
 Can't talk about the action plans, but we welcome the feedback, it is
 not futile.




 --
 Dave Thomlison

Re: Maya feature request from Softimage users

This is the kind of things...  So if I need to sort thing alphabetically,
the MMB to rearrange the hierarchy not works.  Then I need to switch back
the display mode for it to work

Way to go!

---
Emilio Hernández   VFX  3D animation.


2014-03-07 12:46 GMT-06:00 Siew Yi Liang soni...@gmail.com:

  No problem, glad I could help! (Only because I did it the first time too
 since that was what I was used to in XSI as well :P Everything must be
 ordered alphabetically/strict naming conventions!!!)

 Yours sincerely,
 Siew Yi Liang

 On 3/7/2014 10:43 AM, Emilio Hernandez wrote:

 Thanks Siew. Now it is working.  Didn't realize that swithing a display
 mode will make things work different in the outliner.

  ---
 Emilio Hernández   VFX  3D animation.


 2014-03-07 12:37 GMT-06:00 Siew Yi Liang soni...@gmail.com:

  Hello Emilio:

 Make sure that in the Outliner, you have the scene organized by Scene
 Hierarchy, not Alphabetical (Display  Sort order  Scene hierarchy). You
 should be able to re-order objects in the outliner using MMB then!

  Yours sincerely,
 Siew Yi Liang

   On 3/7/2014 10:28 AM, Emilio Hernandez wrote:

  Well I just tried to use the middle mouse button in the outliner and it
 does not work.

  Yes, then you need to get the connection editor to remove things

  ---
 Emilio Hernández   VFX  3D animation.


 2014-03-07 12:25 GMT-06:00 Peter Agg peter@googlemail.com:

   Ability to drag and drop objects in the outliner under other objects
 like the explorer.

  Use the middle mouse button.


 Ability to have non transformation groups

  You mean like XSI's groups? They're called sets - you can drag things
 in but you need to use a Connection Editor to take things out. .


  On 7 March 2014 18:22, Emilio Hernandez emi...@e-roja.com wrote:

  Ability to drag and drop objects in the outliner under other objects
 like the explorer.
  Ability to have non transformation groups

  Pfff I am working in Maya right now, as I am required to do so, the
 list is so long as I continue to do stuff.

  ---
 Emilio Hernández   VFX  3D animation.


  2014-03-07 12:18 GMT-06:00 Jason S jasonsta...@gmail.com:

   Problem-solving  without  problem-solving-code-departments

 On 03/07/14 13:15, Emilio Hernandez wrote:

 +1

  ---
 Emilio Hernández   VFX  3D animation.


 2014-03-07 12:14 GMT-06:00 Rob Chapman tekano@gmail.com:

 No icons..?  :D
  On 7 Mar 2014 18:10, Emilio Hernandez emi...@e-roja.com wrote:

 Independency of child parameters from parent objects.  LIke for
 example if you want to hide the parent and leave the child visible, and 
 not
 spread all of this throught the hierarchy.

  ---
 Emilio Hernández   VFX  3D animation.


 2014-03-07 12:05 GMT-06:00 Emilio Hernandez emi...@e-roja.com:

 Ability to change the same parameters in a multi selection objects

  ---
 Emilio Hernández   VFX  3D animation.


  2014-03-07 12:03 GMT-06:00 Adam Sale adamfs...@gmail.com:

  Gator
 Decent set of shatter and sim tools ala implosia and momentum
 Face robot type functionality
   On Mar 7, 2014 10:00 AM, Emilio Hernandez emi...@e-roja.com
 wrote:

 Oh I thought it was mentioned officialy by Autodesk.  If that
 was the case probably will be the opposite.  But if it is a rumor 
 then it
 might be there  We just need like 6 years so it will become true.

  ---
 Emilio Hernández   VFX  3D animation.


 2014-03-07 11:54 GMT-06:00 Nic Sievers siev...@gmail.com:

  nope, I haven't used it.   I should have specifically said its
 a rumor, instead of I believe.


 On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 9:50 AM, Christopher Crouzet 
 christopher.crou...@gmail.com wrote:

 And I believe you're breaking the NDA here?



 On 7 March 2014 12:47, Nic Sievers siev...@gmail.com wrote:

  I believe Maya 2015 adds a new unfold3D tool...


  On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 9:37 AM, Manuel Huertas Marchena 
 lito...@hotmail.com wrote:

  uv unfold please!!

  ...really dont like maya uv's tools!



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  --
 Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2014 17:30:22 +
 Subject: Re: Maya feature request from Softimage users
 From: sebastien.sterl...@gmail.com
 To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com


  the ability to show/hide components, like in every other
 DCC ever made.

  the ability to relax selections of polygons edges and
 vertexes.

  neither of these should prove to be too difficult... baby
 steps


 On 7 March 2014 17:23

Re: Maya feature request from Softimage users

2014-03-07 Thread Halim Negadi

Can't live wihout middle mouse button menus behaviour, I got this
implemented in relight the first two weeks I spent at the Bakery.

On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 7:38 PM, Peter Agg peter@googlemail.com wrote:

Nope, it's been the default behaviour for ages. Certainly in 2013.

On 7 March 2014 18:36, Emilio Hernandez emi...@e-roja.com wrote:

Oh that is a new feature in 2014?

If that is so I am in 2013.

---
Emilio Hernández VFX 3D animation.

2014-03-07 12:33 GMT-06:00 Peter Agg peter@googlemail.com:

Well I just tried to use the middle mouse button in the outliner and it
does not work.

Well, it certainly should!

http://download.autodesk.com/global/docs/maya2014/en_us/index.html?url=files/Nodes_and_attributes_View_and_edit_the_hierarchy_of_nodes.htm,topicNumber=d30e25645

On 7 March 2014 18:28, Emilio Hernandez emi...@e-roja.com wrote:

Well I just tried to use the middle mouse button in the outliner and it
does not work.

Yes, then you need to get the connection editor to remove things

---
Emilio Hernández VFX 3D animation.

2014-03-07 12:25 GMT-06:00 Peter Agg peter@googlemail.com:

Ability to drag and drop objects in the outliner under other objects
like the explorer.

Use the middle mouse button.

Ability to have non transformation groups

You mean like XSI's groups? They're called sets - you can drag things
in but you need to use a Connection Editor to take things out. .

On 7 March 2014 18:22, Emilio Hernandez emi...@e-roja.com wrote:

Ability to drag and drop objects in the outliner under other objects
like the explorer.
Ability to have non transformation groups

Pfff I am working in Maya right now, as I am required to do so, the
list is so long as I continue to do stuff.

---
Emilio Hernández VFX 3D animation.

2014-03-07 12:18 GMT-06:00 Jason S jasonsta...@gmail.com:

Problem-solving without problem-solving-code-departments

On 03/07/14 13:15, Emilio Hernandez wrote:

---
Emilio Hernández VFX 3D animation.

2014-03-07 12:14 GMT-06:00 Rob Chapman tekano@gmail.com:

No icons..? :D
On 7 Mar 2014 18:10, Emilio Hernandez emi...@e-roja.com wrote:

Independency of child parameters from parent objects. LIke for
example if you want to hide the parent and leave the child visible,
and not
spread all of this throught the hierarchy.

---
Emilio Hernández VFX 3D animation.

2014-03-07 12:05 GMT-06:00 Emilio Hernandez emi...@e-roja.com:

Ability to change the same parameters in a multi selection objects

---
Emilio Hernández VFX 3D animation.

2014-03-07 12:03 GMT-06:00 Adam Sale adamfs...@gmail.com:

Gator
Decent set of shatter and sim tools ala implosia and momentum
Face robot type functionality
On Mar 7, 2014 10:00 AM, Emilio Hernandez emi...@e-roja.com
wrote:

Oh I thought it was mentioned officialy by Autodesk. If that
was the case probably will be the opposite. But if it is a rumor
then it
might be there We just need like 6 years so it will become
true.

---
Emilio Hernández VFX 3D animation.

2014-03-07 11:54 GMT-06:00 Nic Sievers siev...@gmail.com:

nope, I haven't used it. I should have specifically said
its a rumor, instead of I believe.

On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 9:50 AM, Christopher Crouzet
christopher.crou...@gmail.com wrote:

And I believe you're breaking the NDA here?

On 7 March 2014 12:47, Nic Sievers siev...@gmail.com wrote:

I believe Maya 2015 adds a new unfold3D tool...

On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 9:37 AM, Manuel Huertas Marchena
lito...@hotmail.com wrote:

uv unfold please!!

...really dont like maya uv's tools!

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--
Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2014 17:30:22 +
Subject: Re: Maya feature request from Softimage users
From: sebastien.sterl...@gmail.com
To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com

the ability to show/hide components, like in every other
DCC ever made.

the ability to relax selections of polygons edges and
vertexes.

neither of these should prove to be too difficult... baby
steps

On 7 March 2014 17:23, Oscar Juarez
tridi.animei...@gmail.com wrote:

You nailed right there Jeremie, basically being flexible
when rigging, every day I go splitting geometry, regatoring
meshes, and
merging again, transfering everything seamlessly.

Multi attribute editor, it's really stupid that when you
select multiple things you only see

Re: Maya feature request from Softimage users

On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 1:49 PM, Emilio Hernandez emi...@e-roja.com wrote:
 This is the kind of things...  So if I need to sort thing alphabetically,
 the MMB to rearrange the hierarchy not works.  Then I need to switch back
 the display mode for it to work

 Way to go!

well you can't reorder items in the XSI Scene Explorer when it's in
Alphabetical mode, but you can still reparent.  So it's probably an
unintended behavior to disable completely drag and in outliner.  I'll
make a node of it.

Re: Maya feature request from Softimage users

2014-03-07 Thread Halim Negadi

+1

I think there a way to do so using a mel command.


On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 7:44 PM, Dave Thomlison dthomli...@gmail.com wrote:

 Ability to open more than one outliner?


 On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 1:41 PM, Luc-Eric Rousseau luceri...@gmail.comwrote:

 On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 11:59 AM, Jeremie Passerin gerem@gmail.com
 wrote:
  I would really like to hear Autodesk plan to incorporate some of those
  features in Maya.
  I'm guessing there not all super easy to merge, but some of them would
 be
  considered as amazing new feature by the Maya users.

 we have been furiously collecting feedback about what's missing in
 Maya from a Softimage point of view.
 Can't talk about the action plans, but we welcome the feedback, it is
 not futile.




 --
 Dave Thomlison

Re: Maya feature request from Softimage users

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  --
 Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2014 17:30:22 +
 Subject: Re: Maya feature request from Softimage users
 From: sebastien.sterl...@gmail.com
 To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com

  the ability to show/hide components, like in every other
 DCC ever made.

  the ability to relax selections of polygons edges and
 vertexes.

  neither of these should prove to be too difficult... baby
 steps

 On 7 March 2014 17:23, Oscar Juarez 
 tridi.animei...@gmail.com wrote:

 You nailed right there Jeremie, basically being flexible
 when rigging, every day I go splitting geometry, regatoring 
 meshes, and
 merging again, transfering everything seamlessly.

  Multi attribute editor, it's really stupid that when you
 select multiple things you only see one at a time in the 
 attribute editor,
 there is the spreadsheet editor but that sucks in comparison.

 On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 6:11 PM, Jason S 
 jasonsta...@gmail.com wrote:

  Maya 2039 (rewritten)

 On 03/07/14 12:06, Mirko Jankovic wrote:

 stable non destructive workflow

   --
 Christopher Crouzet
 *http://christophercrouzet.com*http://christophercrouzet.com

-- 
Our users will know fear and cower before our software! Ship it! Ship it
and let them flee like the dogs they are!

Re: Maya feature request from Softimage users

2014-03-07 Thread Siew Yi Liang


Indeed there is:

As MEL:

tearOffPanel Outliner2 outlinerPanel false;

This is because UI windows in Maya afaik are given specific names and 
you cannot have two open 'viewports' which share the same name, so just 
create a new one! And tear that off instead. And I agree, this should be 
part of the default GUI, though right now I just save this to my shelf 
as a script and increment the counter when I need a new one. :)


Yours sincerely,
Siew Yi Liang

On 3/7/2014 10:52 AM, Halim Negadi wrote:

+1

I think there a way to do so using a mel command.


On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 7:44 PM, Dave Thomlison dthomli...@gmail.com 
mailto:dthomli...@gmail.com wrote:


Ability to open more than one outliner?


On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 1:41 PM, Luc-Eric Rousseau
luceri...@gmail.com mailto:luceri...@gmail.com wrote:

On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 11:59 AM, Jeremie Passerin
gerem@gmail.com mailto:gerem@gmail.com wrote:
 I would really like to hear Autodesk plan to incorporate
some of those
 features in Maya.
 I'm guessing there not all super easy to merge, but some of
them would be
 considered as amazing new feature by the Maya users.

we have been furiously collecting feedback about what's missing in
Maya from a Softimage point of view.
Can't talk about the action plans, but we welcome the
feedback, it is
not futile.




-- 
Dave Thomlison

Re: Maya feature request from Softimage users

2014-03-07 Thread Meng-Yang Lu

And implemented poorly.  Largely because of the lack of an operator stack.
 If you apply transfer attributes further down the line, you're gonna have
a bad time freezing it to improve performance.

Stack reordering is fine.  Again, the ability to edit that stack is what's
missing.

-Lu


On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 10:39 AM, Steven Caron car...@gmail.com wrote:

 from what i understand, keep in mind i am no maya expert, some of those
 things are available already...

 gator = attribute transfer http://goo.gl/zFQ0Py
 operator stack reordering = deformation order http://goo.gl/nHzWJF


 On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 8:59 AM, Jeremie Passerin gerem@gmail.comwrote:

 Hey guys...

 What do you want to see added to Maya ?
 Autodesk is saying they will add Softimage features to the other
 packages... What is that ?

 As a Rigger, here is what I will miss the most

 - Gator
 - ICE : Especially to create custom deformers
 - Proper weights painting tools
 - Weights Editor !
 - The Operator Stack, reorder, delete operator...
 - Being able to change modeling whith Envelope, Shapes already applied to
 the mesh
 - Blend shape workflow

 I would really like to hear Autodesk plan to incorporate some of those
 features in Maya.
 I'm guessing there not all super easy to merge, but some of them would be
 considered as amazing new feature by the Maya users.

 J/

Re: Maya feature request from Softimage users

 Crouzet 
 christopher.crou...@gmail.com wrote:

 And I believe you're breaking the NDA here?



 On 7 March 2014 12:47, Nic Sievers siev...@gmail.com wrote:

  I believe Maya 2015 adds a new unfold3D tool...


  On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 9:37 AM, Manuel Huertas Marchena 
 lito...@hotmail.com wrote:

  uv unfold please!!

  ...really dont like maya uv's tools!



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 Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2014 17:30:22 +
 Subject: Re: Maya feature request from Softimage users
 From: sebastien.sterl...@gmail.com
 To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com


  the ability to show/hide components, like in every other
 DCC ever made.

  the ability to relax selections of polygons edges and
 vertexes.

  neither of these should prove to be too difficult... baby
 steps


 On 7 March 2014 17:23, Oscar Juarez 
 tridi.animei...@gmail.com wrote:

 You nailed right there Jeremie, basically being flexible
 when rigging, every day I go splitting geometry, regatoring 
 meshes, and
 merging again, transfering everything seamlessly.

  Multi attribute editor, it's really stupid that when you
 select multiple things you only see one at a time in the 
 attribute editor,
 there is the spreadsheet editor but that sucks in comparison.


 On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 6:11 PM, Jason S 
 jasonsta...@gmail.com wrote:

  Maya 2039 (rewritten)

 On 03/07/14 12:06, Mirko Jankovic wrote:

 stable non destructive workflow








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Re: Maya feature request from Softimage users

no UI way to open two outliners, however there is a splitter bar at
the bottom of the outliner that you can drag to get two outliner
panes.

On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 1:56 PM, Siew Yi Liang soni...@gmail.com wrote:
 Indeed there is:

 As MEL:

 tearOffPanel Outliner2 outlinerPanel false;

 This is because UI windows in Maya afaik are given specific names and you
 cannot have two open 'viewports' which share the same name, so just create a
 new one! And tear that off instead. And I agree, this should be part of the
 default GUI, though right now I just save this to my shelf as a script and
 increment the counter when I need a new one. :)

 Yours sincerely,

Re: Maya feature request from Softimage users

A handful, though they can be collapsed.
You can create a panel, dump an outliner in it, then show that window.
Looks something like this:

window;
frameLayout -labelVisible false;
string $panel = `outlinerPanel`;
string $outliner = `outlinerPanel -query -outlinerEditor $panel`;
outlinerEditor -edit
$outliner;
showWindow;


On Sat, Mar 8, 2014 at 5:52 AM, Halim Negadi hneg...@gmail.com wrote:

 +1

 I think there a way to do so using a mel command.


 On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 7:44 PM, Dave Thomlison dthomli...@gmail.comwrote:

 Ability to open more than one outliner?


 On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 1:41 PM, Luc-Eric Rousseau luceri...@gmail.comwrote:

 On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 11:59 AM, Jeremie Passerin gerem@gmail.com
 wrote:
  I would really like to hear Autodesk plan to incorporate some of those
  features in Maya.
  I'm guessing there not all super easy to merge, but some of them would
 be
  considered as amazing new feature by the Maya users.

 we have been furiously collecting feedback about what's missing in
 Maya from a Softimage point of view.
 Can't talk about the action plans, but we welcome the feedback, it is
 not futile.




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Re: Maya feature request from Softimage users

2014-03-07 Thread Chris Covelli

I would be very happy to see Maya make their hypershade more like the XSI
rendertree.  The hypershade  feels like its trying to be node based, but
not quite getting it.  In XSI ou can see the ports and know instantly how
everything is connected, whereas the hypershade just has boxes with lines
between them.  Not very helpful if you ask me.

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On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 10:58 AM, Luc-Eric Rousseau luceri...@gmail.comwrote:

 no UI way to open two outliners, however there is a splitter bar at
 the bottom of the outliner that you can drag to get two outliner
 panes.

 On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 1:56 PM, Siew Yi Liang soni...@gmail.com wrote:
  Indeed there is:
 
  As MEL:
 
  tearOffPanel Outliner2 outlinerPanel false;
 
  This is because UI windows in Maya afaik are given specific names and you
  cannot have two open 'viewports' which share the same name, so just
 create a
  new one! And tear that off instead. And I agree, this should be part of
 the
  default GUI, though right now I just save this to my shelf as a script
 and
  increment the counter when I need a new one. :)
 
  Yours sincerely,

Re: Maya feature request from Softimage users