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Hi New memba. This problem with the Dewit (oil in the boila ) sounds as if he is using TO MUCH oil ;;this is caused by a vaccum when you have shut down with no water in the boiler and when shutting down walla the oil goes a different way . Worth a try . Graham S. - Original Message - From: John Simon [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Multiple recipients of sslivesteam [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, August 18, 2002 7:51 PM Subject: Re: New Member Helo Live Steamers, Just joined the group and thought I would say hi...and a question... I model in 16mm on 32mm gauge with live steam... The railroad is a short line that services a small town from a pier terminus some were on the Pacific Coast of British Columbia. The name of the railroad is the Gritty Oyster Railroad ...or GOR for shortwe mine oysters... Hey I like that! How deep do you have to mine for these little critters? Seeing that they are related to Clams, and according the an old BC comic strip Clams have legs. Why not just take up rounding up Clams? Much easier I would have thought. B-) 73, John de VK2XGJ General Manager Elk River Cheat Mountain Railroad
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Just wait until the railroad builds its extension to the local pig farm. In truth, the pig farm had been lobbying the railroad to build there first, using the argument that you're not supposed to cast your pearls before swine. Sorry. K
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Helo Live Steamers, Just joined the group and thought I would say hi...and a question... I model in 16mm on 32mm gauge with live steam... The railroad is a short line that services a small town from a pier terminus some were on the Pacific Coast of British Columbia. The name of the railroad is the Gritty Oyster Railroad ...or GOR for shortwe mine oysters... Hey I like that! How deep do you have to mine for these little critters? Seeing that they are related to Clams, and according the an old BC comic strip Clams have legs. Why not just take up rounding up Clams? Much easier I would have thought. B-) 73, John de VK2XGJ General Manager Elk River Cheat Mountain Railroad
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...thanks for that pearl of wisdom ...yes also known as a bivalve...we have have studied them and have been using a take off of their valving design for one of the steam trams...timing was a little tricky at first but this has been sorted by the use of an electronic solinoid...triggered by a permanent magnet using the Hall effect. As well as good eatin' they make super pets he only problem to date has been weening them off the salt water and getting them on a steady diet of distilled. ...mining them...well yes. TonyO on Vancouver Island BC - Original Message - From: John Simon [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Multiple recipients of sslivesteam [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, August 18, 2002 4:51 PM Subject: Re: New Member Helo Live Steamers, Just joined the group and thought I would say hi...and a question... I model in 16mm on 32mm gauge with live steam... The railroad is a short line that services a small town from a pier terminus some were on the Pacific Coast of British Columbia. The name of the railroad is the Gritty Oyster Railroad ...or GOR for shortwe mine oysters... Hey I like that! How deep do you have to mine for these little critters? Seeing that they are related to Clams, and according the an old BC comic strip Clams have legs. Why not just take up rounding up Clams? Much easier I would have thought. B-) 73, John de VK2XGJ General Manager Elk River Cheat Mountain Railroad
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TonyO wrote: subject.PPS Mock DeWinton The engineering of the loco is well thought out except for the displacement luber that is between the boila' and steam shut off and pulls any oil back into the boila' without much provication when the fire goes out...he has to clean out the oil buildup in the boila daily...ugh! TonyO, Howdy and welcome to the list. Love your gritty oysters! I don't have said locomotive but I would wonder if the cylinders are getting enough oil. Change the plumbing to move the lubricator between the steam valve and the cylinders and make sure it uses plenty of steam oil. This should improve the power and allow you to run slower and also solve the oil in the 'boila' problem... I reserve the right to be completly wrong. :_) Carl Carl Malone Algerita Botanical Railway San Angelo, Tx
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Geoff, I agree with, and respect that. Later, Trent Geoff Waldorf wrote: It would be unfair of me to show a pic of the prototype tender as I am not sure if it is the same as the production version, Also, the Company might get grumpy with me If I were to do that.
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Hi Trent, A quick update It mat be on the streets in late September as soon as I have a picture I will post it. All the best Geoff
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Geoff, I'm looking forward to seeing it! Later, Trent Geoff Waldorf wrote: Hi Trent, A quick update It mat be on the streets in late September as soon as I have a picture I will post it.
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I think I sent a message to the wrong mail address, sorry if it gets duplicated, this was it Hi from England, I was just surfing by fell over your list. I own an Iver (boiler #172) After running in I am finding it to be a very willing performer.( It now has about 5 hours running both static track) However I think some of your members may have missed the point of the engine that is that it is an entry level garden steam railway engine aimed at new members of the hobby for just over £400 including R/C In England is priced below other engines with less performance than Iver for sale in this country. On the subject of performance can you clear up the matter of this item about winning a pulling comp at Diamondhead or St Louis, where did it win?, what did it win?, of course It could be true that if it did win 6th place then it is a winner. I have seen Iver called 'an oil pig' This is only true if the boiler is filled over 3/4 full. In this condition on steam up the boiler will prime blow all the oil out of the displacement lubricator as will be seen with water oil being forced from the funnel/smoke stack all over the outside of the loco, if you reduce the amount of water in the boiler it will use the correct amount of oil, run much cleaner run longer as the water will not have siphoned out at the start. I hope this will help your members get hours of enjoyment from their Iver's. May your boilers never run dry! Geoff Waldorf Chairman- Cheddar Steam Club Somerset, England. www.cheddar-steam-club.co.uk
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Hello Geoff, You seem very knowledgeable of the Iver and perhaps have an inside connection of the current Cheddar happenings. At one time on the Cheddar site they made mention of the possibility of a 4 wheel tender with hand feed pump for Iver. Is this still being considered, or in production? Later, Trent Geoff Waldorf wrote: Chairman- Cheddar Steam Club Somerset, England. www.cheddar-steam-club.co.uk
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Well for the last few days I have had a 4 wheel tender behind my Iver! A prototype which, I understand is nothing like the production Tender, If it is produced, I have to say that pulling it around the track full of bronze off cuts really has helped to run my engine in, by operating the R/C using just the trim control I can get Iver down to a crawl!! seriously good fun, much better on the paintwork too!. All the best Geoff Waldorf Chairman- Cheddar Steam Club Somerset, England. www.cheddar-steam-club.co.uk -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Trent Dowler Sent: 20 August 2001 21:06 To: Multiple recipients of sslivesteam Subject: Re: New member Hello Geoff, You seem very knowledgeable of the Iver and perhaps have an inside connection of the current Cheddar happenings. At one time on the Cheddar site they made mention of the possibility of a 4 wheel tender with hand feed pump for Iver. Is this still being considered, or in production? Later, Trent
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Geoff, Any pics available of yours? I hope it goes into production. Later, Trent Geoff Waldorf wrote: Well for the last few days I have had a 4 wheel tender behind my Iver! A prototype which, I understand is nothing like the production Tender, If it is produced
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Larry meant my used, outdated, temperamental, complicated digital camera (I got it cheap!) when he wrote; Twist Geoff's arm to bring his fancy digital camera and get you a few pictures of the doings. We'll try--remember, Larry also has a HIS RR and a HERS RR. Bloody good way to keep the ladies (managing directors) happy and budget extra funds! Anyway NG steam wil be the name of the game. Larry is a great video man, by the way! All this is our fun substitute for those lovely steamups in the Bay- Sacramento area and parts of Oregon, they are just too far from us for a day's steamup--and--gas is $1.99 up here! Yes and too far for all those other steamups across the USA. Geoff. Tag As Geoff mentioned, several of the steamers in our area have Garden Railroads, including me. Geoff, myself, and a few others will be steaming up my garden RR on Sunday, April 1. Twist Geoff's arm to bring his fancy digital camera and get you a few pictures of the doings. One of the best Garden Railroads in the area is featured on the Steam in the Garden magazine's web site. There you can see Geoff in all his magnificence, Kevin, Richard, and the back of my head, taking videos. To get there, go to: http://www.steamup.com then choose "What's New". Scroll down to 10/23/00. Choose Oktoberfest Steamup. Enjoy! I'll get Geoff to share your pictures with me later, if you don't mind. Larry Buerer Bayside Western RR.
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Welcome Don, I'm also a teacher(art) and a steamer-but live in Nebraska. Good group to join. Jerry Barnes
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Welcome to the group Don,
my Grandfather also worked for the SP as a machinist
and then later as a Locomotive inspector. My Father also worked
for the SP for over 30 years. While I was a bit to young to talk steam
with my Grandfather, I do talk rail road with my dad all the time.
Steve Speck
At 04:49 PM 3/29/2001 -0500, you wrote:
Hello All,
My grandfather was a Southern Pacific steam engineer for all of his working
years. One of my fondest memories is about taking him to Travel Town in
Griffith Park, Los Angeles, near our homes at that time, to look at the
locomotives. Although recently having become a widower and in frail health
at 90 years of age, he fairly leaped into one of the steam locos, pulled me
up and explained every valve, lever and fitting, sliding down the stair rails
to show me where the sand pipes came out and then back into the cab where he
ran his hands over every surface.
Turns out, that very unit was one of the locomotives he actually ran in his
career. He even showed me the marks where he and the crew had found it
necessary to straighten a drive arm by removing it and bending it against a
tree in the middle of no where. I was hooked on locomotives and on steam.
It was his greatest gift to me. He died two weeks later.
New to the hobby, I am digging in my high desert New Mexico backyard now to
lay gauge 1 track (45 mm) for a narrow gauge garden railway. A Ruby will
probably be my first steam loco, to be purchased in June. I'll be modeling a
logging operation and a mining line. The scale will be 1:20.3 ("Fn3").
Other avocations are bonsai trees, miniature gardening, and garden ponds, so
you can understand why this hobby is a natural for me. Since I started
learning and planning about three months ago, it has brought me countless
happy hours and has brought me into contact with some very fine people in New
Mexico and on the internet.
My dual occupations may be part of the reason I so enjoy this hobby. Both
are highly fulfilling but can be among the most stressful of jobs. Weekdays
I am a teacher of 8th grade (13-14 year olds) general mathematics, algebra
and earth science. Weekends (well, all the time, actually) I am an ordained
Episcopal minister.
I look forward to learning and sharing.
Don Cram
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on 30/3/01 7:49 pm, steve at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Other avocations are bonsai trees, miniature gardening, and garden ponds, so you can understand why this hobby is a natural for me. Since I started learning and planning about three months ago, it has brought me countless happy hours and has brought me into contact with some very fine people in New Mexico and on the internet. Welcome to the group Don. It is good to see that people are nowadays looking to combine live steam operation with miniature gardening on your side of the pond. I am not a gardening expert, but I do like to run my live steam powered trains through living scale scenery rather than giant nodding daffodils. If you are interested I can send you a small jpeg (off list) of my scenic efforts. it is interesting isn't it that so many padres are interested in railways. from the Rev. Malan's very early photographs of the old broad gauge Great Western Railway to the Rev. Awdrey, creator of Thomas the Tank Engine and the many well known "modellers of the cloth". I suspect that the Almighty also likes bucolic branch lines or arcadian shortline pikes :-) -- Yours Aye Tag Gorton Longlands Western Railway Co Trematon Office Cornwall ICQ* 96182312
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Tag, you may be surprised how many steamers on this side of the pond do run their steam trains thru miniature gardens--probably more so than in the UK! They are just not mentioned much on this list. All the few steamers in this rural area--(5 if us) do so! Can you send me the JPEG too- off list--Wow, have you opened a can of worms! OK, worms?- they keep my GR soil active! Incidentally, Don, I sold air tools to the maintenance shops of Southern Pacific and ATSF in So. California in the mid 50s--always made sure I had a pocketful of GOOD cigars for the Supts! Ah, those were the days! Geoff. on 30/3/01 7:49 pm, steve at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Other avocations are bonsai trees, miniature gardening, and garden ponds, so you can understand why this hobby is a natural for me. Since I started learning and planning about three months ago, it has brought me countless happy hours and has brought me into contact with some very fine people in New Mexico and on the internet. Welcome to the group Don. It is good to see that people are nowadays looking to combine live steam operation with miniature gardening on your side of the pond. I am not a gardening expert, but I do like to run my live steam powered trains through living scale scenery rather than giant nodding daffodils. If you are interested I can send you a small jpeg (off list) of my scenic efforts. it is interesting isn't it that so many padres are interested in railways. from the Rev. Malan's very early photographs of the old broad gauge Great Western Railway to the Rev. Awdrey, creator of Thomas the Tank Engine and the many well known "modellers of the cloth". I suspect that the Almighty also likes bucolic branch lines or arcadian shortline pikes :-) -- Yours Aye Tag Gorton Longlands Western Railway Co Trematon Office Cornwall ICQ* 96182312
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it is interesting isn't it that so many padres are interested in railways. And don't forget the Vicar and Bishop in Titfield! -vance- "Another day goes by in the time machine. I'm breaking my brain over what it might mean just to claim the time and turn away and make today today." --James Taylor
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on 30/3/01 9:32 pm, Geoff Spenceley at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tag, you may be surprised how many steamers on this side of the pond do run their steam trains thru miniature gardens--probably more so than in the UK! They are just not mentioned much on this list. All the few steamers in this rural area--(5 if us) do so! Can you send me the JPEG too- off list--Wow, have you opened a can of worms! OK, worms?- they keep my GR soil active! Hi Geoff Certainly I will send - day after tomorrow when I get back from the 16mm AGM. I always keep a pretty close eye on what is going on in the US via SitG and Garden Railways and the perception is that the scenic lines have always tended to be electrically powered. I would love to be proven wrong on this:-) There have always been some good scenic steam lines in the US of course. I remember with pleasure the late Grover Devine's garden railway and his articles in early copies of both SitG and garden railways. -- Yours Aye Tag Gorton Longlands Western Railway Co Trematon Office ICQ* 96182312
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Thanks Tag, You are probably right, except that more sparky GRers are now running steam too--and keeping their gardens! I wonder how many members of this list have miniature gardens of some degree. I'll look forward to the pics. and will respond. Cheers, Geoff. Certainly I will send - day after tomorrow when I get back from the 16mm AGM. I always keep a pretty close eye on what is going on in the US via SitG and Garden Railways and the perception is that the scenic lines have always tended to be electrically powered. I would love to be proven wrong on this:-) There have always been some good scenic steam lines in the US of course. I remember with pleasure the late Grover Devine's garden railway and his articles in early copies of both SitG and garden railways. -- Yours Aye Tag Gorton Longlands Western Railway Co Trematon Office ICQ* 96182312
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In a message dated 3/30/2001 1:16:28 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I wonder how many members of this list have miniature gardens of some degree My first railroad was heavily gardened, five years of work and over 50 tons of dirt. But my ex has that, or at least what is left; she let all the plants die. My new pike is above ground except for one turn and I shall make that scenic. Don't want to do much as this is a rented house. Jackie and I have big plans for the house that we hope to buy soon. Bob
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Tag As Geoff mentioned, several of the steamers in our area have Garden Railroads, including me. Geoff, myself, and a few others will be steaming up my garden RR on Sunday, April 1. Twist Geoff's arm to bring his fancy digital camera and get you a few pictures of the doings. One of the best Garden Railroads in the area is featured on the Steam in the Garden magazine's web site. There you can see Geoff in all his magnificence, Kevin, Richard, and the back of my head, taking videos. To get there, go to: http://www.steamup.com then choose "What's New". Scroll down to 10/23/00. Choose Oktoberfest Steamup. Enjoy! I'll get Geoff to share your pictures with me later, if you don't mind. Larry Buerer Bayside Western RR. Tag Gorton wrote: on 30/3/01 9:32 pm, Geoff Spenceley at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tag, you may be surprised how many steamers on this side of the pond do run their steam trains thru miniature gardens--probably more so than in the UK! They are just not mentioned much on this list. All the few steamers in this rural area--(5 if us) do so! Can you send me the JPEG too- off list--Wow, have you opened a can of worms! OK, worms?- they keep my GR soil active! Hi Geoff Certainly I will send - day after tomorrow when I get back from the 16mm AGM. I always keep a pretty close eye on what is going on in the US via SitG and Garden Railways and the perception is that the scenic lines have always tended to be electrically powered. I would love to be proven wrong on this:-) There have always been some good scenic steam lines in the US of course. I remember with pleasure the late Grover Devine's garden railway and his articles in early copies of both SitG and garden railways. -- Yours Aye Tag Gorton Longlands Western Railway Co Trematon Office ICQ* 96182312
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Weekends (well, all the time, actually) I am an ordained Episcopal minister. I look forward to learning and sharing. Welcome Don! And may the peace of the Lord be with you always. Clark Lord Las Vegas
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Welcome Don. You have a very exciting Grandpa in my view--he lives on with you, be sure you record and keep everything you know or remember of his experiences--it's history we must keep, for the number of the original steam engineers are fast disappearing from this earth. I am pleased--delighted- that one of your hobbies is also miniature gardening which I do to support the trains. After all, some visitors are not train crazy like me and others.--However, when garden clubs visit, suddenly their interest leaves the garden and focuses on the trains. Mostly ladies, they go "apes" on the Aster Grasshopper because of the motion and "cutness" of the carriages. Now, since you are a minister, you could become our resident Chaplain--covering all religions, of course! My sister's husband was a Congregational minister in England for over 50 years-still active. As Clark LORD writes: Welcome Don! And may the peace of the Lord be with you always. Keep us informed on your progress--. Geoff
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Welcome Don there is a lot of good information in this group! Roger
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Don, Enjoyed your letter and story of your grandfather. Welcome to the board. Why is it that steam seems to attract the nicest and best of folks? Bob
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Don Baker wrote: Have started a Vest Pocket Climax I too am building a VPC and have been keeping a diary of my progress. Look at: http://www.fls.org.jm/users/fls/climax/vpc.html I have not worked on the engine for a while as I have been engaged with other projects. I have completed the cylinders and the chassis runs on air. It's ready for the plate work and setting on the boiler. I hope to complete it in time for the January 2000 small scale gathering in Diamondhead MS. - anybody know Mel Ridley's e-mail address? Try Mel Ridley [EMAIL PROTECTED] Welcome to the list Don. Clark = Clark B Lord - Las Vegas, Nevada USA 702-431-3568 Live Steamer running 1:32, 1:20.3, 1:12 1:8 engines
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Hi Don: Sounds like you have a lot of neat projects under way. All the current Roundhouse Locos are fine runners and fall under the Gas, water and go category. I've seen them run at P.L.S. (the Pennsylvania Live Steamers). Welcome. Phil.P. Reading,Pa. Greetings to all, I seem to be migrating from 3-1/2 in scale [7-1/4 in gauge NG] in the direction of 16mmNG [32mm track], although still sitting on the fence right now. Have started a Vest Pocket Climax - anybody know Mel Ridley's e-mail address? - and have virtually the full set of lost wax castings. Boiler completed. Also have made a modest start on a Baldwin 4-6-2 South African Railways NG10 [2ft gauge]. Length 750mm! To be coal-fired, boiler in progress. No track yet but have completed 6 rolling stock items from kits - all Brit. NG. Thinking about a Roundhouse "Millie". Don Baker Howick, Natal South Africa
