[pfSense Support] squid clobbering performance

2009-10-01 Thread mayak chunder-qwern
hi all,

any reason (or what can i look at) to see why squid transparent proxying
is heavily slowing web access ... (w/out proxy, dell.fr takes 3-5 secs,
with proxy, dell.fr takes 20+ or more)

running latest stable version in a vmware virtual machine with nice
hardware.

thanks

mcq


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Re: [pfSense Support] squid clobbering performance

2009-10-01 Thread Abdulrehman
Simply bypass this website from squid..make your squid to do not cache any
content of this site...

On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 12:38 PM, mayak chunder-qwern
wrote:

> hi all,
>
> any reason (or what can i look at) to see why squid transparent proxying
> is heavily slowing web access ... (w/out proxy, dell.fr takes 3-5 secs,
> with proxy, dell.fr takes 20+ or more)
>
> running latest stable version in a vmware virtual machine with nice
> hardware.
>
> thanks
>
> mcq
>
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Re: [pfSense Support] squid clobbering performance

2009-10-01 Thread mayak chunder-qwern
On Thu, 2009-10-01 at 13:06 +0500, Abdulrehman wrote:
> Simply bypass this website from squid..make your squid to do not cache
> any content of this site...

> Regards
> Abdulrehman

i should have been more specific -- all web traffic is slowed, i just
gave dell.fr as an example ...

cheers

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Re: [pfSense Support] One check-box is missing in Rules-Edit-Advanced of 1.2.3-RC3 snapshot

2009-10-01 Thread Ermal Luçi
On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 11:48 PM, Evgeny Yurchenko  wrote:
> Scott Ullrich wrote:
>>
>> On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 5:27 PM, Evgeny Yurchenko 
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Well, I am sorry for confusion... but could you please confirm that this
>>> is
>>> from 2.0 filter.inc, starting at line 1961:
>>>                      if ($type == "pass") {
>>>                              if (isset($rule['allowopts']))
>>>                                      $aline['allowopts'] = " allow-opts
>>> ";
>>>                              if( isset($rule['source-track']) or
>>> isset($rule['max-src-nodes']) or isset($rule['max-src-states']) )
>>>                                      if($rule['protocol'] == "tcp")
>>>                                              $aline['flags'] = "flags
>>> S/SA
>>> ";
>>>
>>
>> No, I see:
>>
>>                                $cron_item = array();
>>
>>
>>>
>>> PS: I must stop playing with pfSense -(((
>>>
>>
>> Why do you say that?
>>
>> Scott
>>
>
> Because it would be stupid to copy at least two files filter.inc and
> firewall_rules_edit.php from 2.0 to 1.2.2. And I do not recall I modified

Good luck in doing this!

> this part of these files on any of my test boxes, but I do remember I was
> happy when I discovered this check-box... Now I am not sure on which version
> I discovered it first... Mystery...
> firewall_rules_edit.php on my 1.2.2 box is 35773 bytes in size.  On 2.0 it
> is 49332. Ok, may be I am too tired today. Just note for myself: this
> check-box is available starting from 2.0.
>
> Thanks anyway and sorry for this mess.
> Evgeny.
>
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Re: [pfSense Support] squid clobbering performance

2009-10-01 Thread Abdulrehman
check your cache management settings...i guess there something wrong with
cache...check on which interface your squid is listening...it should be LAN
interface.

On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 1:18 PM, mayak chunder-qwern wrote:

> On Thu, 2009-10-01 at 13:06 +0500, Abdulrehman wrote:
> > Simply bypass this website from squid..make your squid to do not cache
> > any content of this site...
> 
> > Regards
> > Abdulrehman
>
> i should have been more specific -- all web traffic is slowed, i just
> gave dell.fr as an example ...
>
> cheers
>
> mcq
>
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Re: [pfSense Support] squid clobbering performance

2009-10-01 Thread Paul Mansfield

On 01/10/09 08:38, mayak chunder-qwern wrote:

hi all,

any reason (or what can i look at) to see why squid transparent proxying
is heavily slowing web access ... (w/out proxy, dell.fr takes 3-5 secs,
with proxy, dell.fr takes 20+ or more)



have you restricted the amount of memory squid can use?


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Re: [pfSense Support] squid clobbering performance

2009-10-01 Thread Morgan Reed
On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 17:38, mayak chunder-qwern  wrote:
> any reason (or what can i look at) to see why squid transparent proxying
> is heavily slowing web access ... (w/out proxy, dell.fr takes 3-5 secs,
> with proxy, dell.fr takes 20+ or more)

Are you using Squid for caching? If you are your cache is most likely
misconfigured. If you don't require caching turn it off and see how it
behaves itself.

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Re: [pfSense Support] squid clobbering performance

2009-10-01 Thread mayak chunder-qwern
On Thu, 2009-10-01 at 10:33 +0100, Paul Mansfield wrote:
> On 01/10/09 08:38, mayak chunder-qwern wrote:
> > hi all,
> >
> > any reason (or what can i look at) to see why squid transparent proxying
> > is heavily slowing web access ... (w/out proxy, dell.fr takes 3-5 secs,
> > with proxy, dell.fr takes 20+ or more)
> 
> 
> have you restricted the amount of memory squid can use?

hi paul, hi morgan,

i thought to cache corruption, so i killed squid, did a squid -z, squid
-k reconfigure -- still no joy. un-installed squid, reinstalled, etc.,
and i still get enormous lag.

below is config ...

cheers

mcq


General Settings
proxy interface: lan
allow users on interface: checked
transparent proxy: checked
bypass for rfc 1918: no
bypass source ips: no
enable logging: no
log store: /var/squid/log
log rotate: empty
proxy port: 3128
icp port: empty
visible hostname: localhost
admin mail: ad...@localhost
lang: english
disable x-forward: checked
disable via: checked
requests with whitespace: allow
alternate dns: empty
suppress version: checked
custom options: empty

Cache Management
cache size 1500
cache fs: aufs
cache loc: /var/squid/cache
mem chache size: 64
minimum object: 1000
max object: 10
level 1 dirs: 16
mem replacement: Heap GDSF
cache replacement: Heap LFUDA
low water: 90
high water: 95
don't cache: empty
enable offline: no



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Re: [pfSense Support] squid clobbering performance

2009-10-01 Thread Paul Mansfield



I assume you're retyping the config rather than giving us
"grep -v ^# squid.conf"

you sure the cache size 1500 is 1500MB and not 1500KB? is it using 
sufficient disk space? if the disk cache is too small it'll be pointless 
having it.


also, have you turned logging level up too far, if you log too much it 
can thrash a small system.





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[pfSense Support] why delete captive portal accts on expiry?

2009-10-01 Thread Pete Boyd

Why are captive portal accounts automatically deleted when they expire?

To my mind, it would be more useful if they were left in place, expired,
so that to re-enable them for the admin person was an easy task of just
choosing a new expiry date.

As it is, when we have a user pay again for their Internet access, rather
than just paying remotely and telephoning in that they've done so, they
have to come in to where the admin person is in order to re-enter their
password (for privacy/security reasons).

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Re: [pfSense Support] squid clobbering performance

2009-10-01 Thread mayak chunder-qwern
On Thu, 2009-10-01 at 14:02 +0100, Paul Mansfield wrote:
> 
> I assume you're retyping the config rather than giving us
> "grep -v ^# squid.conf"
> 
> you sure the cache size 1500 is 1500MB and not 1500KB? is it using 
> sufficient disk space? if the disk cache is too small it'll be pointless 
> having it.
> 
> also, have you turned logging level up too far, if you log too much it 
> can thrash a small system.

"grep -v ^# squid.conf"

doh!!!

mcq


here's the conf in its entirety

http_port 172.16.32.254:3128
http_port 127.0.0.1:80 transparent
icp_port 0

pid_filename /var/run/squid.pid
cache_effective_user proxy
cache_effective_group proxy
error_directory /usr/local/etc/squid/errors/English
icon_directory /usr/local/etc/squid/icons
visible_hostname localhost
cache_mgr ad...@localhost
access_log /dev/null
cache_log /var/squid/log/cache.log
cache_store_log none
shutdown_lifetime 3 seconds
acl localnet src  172.16.32.0/255.255.255.0
forwarded_for off
via off
httpd_suppress_version_string on
uri_whitespace allow

cache_dir aufs /var/squid/cache 1500 16 256
cache_mem 64 MB
maximum_object_size 100 KB
minimum_object_size 100 KB
cache_replacement_policy heap LFUDA
memory_replacement_policy heap GDSF
offline_mode off
dns_children 32
cache_swap_low 90
cache_swap_high 95

acl all src 0.0.0.0/0.0.0.0
acl localhost src 127.0.0.1/255.255.255.255
acl safeports port 21 70 80 210 280 443 488 563 591 631 777 901  3128
1025-65535
acl sslports port 443 563 
acl manager proto cache_object
acl purge method PURGE
acl connect method CONNECT
acl dynamic urlpath_regex cgi-bin \?
cache deny dynamic

http_access allow manager localhost
http_access deny manager
http_access allow purge localhost
http_access deny purge
http_access deny !safeports
http_access deny CONNECT !sslports
http_access allow localhost

request_body_max_size 0 KB
reply_body_max_size 0 allow all
delay_pools 1
delay_class 1 2
delay_parameters 1 -1/-1 -1/-1
delay_initial_bucket_level 100
delay_access 1 allow all

http_access allow localnet
http_access deny all



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Re: [pfSense Support] squid clobbering performance

2009-10-01 Thread Jim Pingle
mayak chunder-qwern wrote:
> hi all,
> 
> any reason (or what can i look at) to see why squid transparent proxying
> is heavily slowing web access ... (w/out proxy, dell.fr takes 3-5 secs,
> with proxy, dell.fr takes 20+ or more)
> 
> running latest stable version in a vmware virtual machine with nice
> hardware.

Have you tried the suggestion listed here?

http://doc.pfsense.org/index.php/Squid_Package_Tuning#Performance_Tweaks

Jim

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Re: [pfSense Support] squid clobbering performance

2009-10-01 Thread David Burgess
On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 7:57 AM, Jim Pingle  wrote:
> mayak chunder-qwern wrote:
>> hi all,
>>
>> any reason (or what can i look at) to see why squid transparent proxying
>> is heavily slowing web access ... (w/out proxy, dell.fr takes 3-5 secs,
>> with proxy, dell.fr takes 20+ or more)


My connection speed would undulate with squid until I followed the
instructions in the last post here:
http://forum.pfsense.org/index.php/topic,7186.msg59302.html#msg59302

Careful, the syntax is a little inconsistent in the post. Mine looks like this:

# cat /boot/loader.conf
autoboot_delay="1"
vm.kmem_size="435544320"
vm.kmem_size_max="535544320"
console="comconsole"
#squid custom
hint.apic.0.disabled=1
kern.ipc.nmbclusters="32768"
kern.maxfiles="65536"
kern.maxfilesperproc="32768"
net.inet.ip.portrange.last="65535"

and works great. My internet is a solid 5.5mbps as it should be, and
I've seen downloads come out of cache at 30 mbps.

db

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[pfSense Support] PORT command in ftp proxy

2009-10-01 Thread Vick Khera
I'm trying to figure out how to make my ftp service pass the PCI
security compliance (we take credit cards, so need the compliance).  I
have pfSense 1.2.2 running the ftp proxy to my internal box, which is
a FreeBSD 7.2 server running the stock ftpd.

A probe from the outside looks like this:

>telnet 66.250.193.115 21
USER anonymous
PASS word
PORT 66,250,193,115,21,178

and it responds

200 PORT command successful.

In fact, it responds successful to connect to any IP and any port.

If I telnet to port 21 from inside the lan to the same freebsd server
and issue a PORT command to any host other than the one from where I
am connecting I get:

500 Illegal PORT range rejected.

The FreeBSD ftpd's PORT command by default is limited to privileged
ports on the same host as is connected to it.

It seems that the PORT command is handled directly by the proxy (which
makes sense).  Is there a way to restrict the proxy to this same
security restriction?  I understand it violates the FTP protocol
technically, but in practice it doesn't break anything other than
abuse attempts.

Sort of disabling the ftp service altogether (which would be a hassle
for customers uploading data to us) what can I do to tighten the ftp
proxy?



Relevant section from ftpd man page:

 -R  With this option set, ftpd will revert to historical behavior
 with regard to security checks on user operations and restric-
 tions on PORT requests.  Currently, ftpd will only honor PORT
 commands directed to unprivileged ports on the remote user's host
 (which violates the FTP protocol specification but closes some
 security holes).

and from the security scanning company's description:

It is possible to force the FTP server to connect to third parties
hosts, by using the PORT command, aka FTP bounce.

The FTP bounce attack is used for establishing a connection to an
arbitrary machine by exploiting the PORT command. The basis for
successful attacks is in the RFC requirements. The RFC allows the
originating server to specify an arbitrary host and port to establish
a data connection.

This gives an attacker the ability to specify any host and port of
their choosing. If the target host is in a protected network, an
attacker can use FTP bounce to bypass firewall restrictions as well as
have the ability to discreetly perform port scans from the connected
host.

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Re: [pfSense Support] squid clobbering performance [solved]

2009-10-01 Thread mayak chunder-qwern
On Thu, 2009-10-01 at 08:18 -0600, David Burgess wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 7:57 AM, Jim Pingle  wrote:
> > mayak chunder-qwern wrote:
> >> hi all,
> >>
> >> any reason (or what can i look at) to see why squid transparent proxying
> >> is heavily slowing web access ... (w/out proxy, dell.fr takes 3-5 secs,
> >> with proxy, dell.fr takes 20+ or more)
> 
> 
> My connection speed would undulate with squid until I followed the
> instructions in the last post here:
> http://forum.pfsense.org/index.php/topic,7186.msg59302.html#msg59302
> 
> Careful, the syntax is a little inconsistent in the post. Mine looks like 
> this:
> 
> # cat /boot/loader.conf
> autoboot_delay="1"
> vm.kmem_size="435544320"
> vm.kmem_size_max="535544320"
> console="comconsole"
> #squid custom
> hint.apic.0.disabled=1
> kern.ipc.nmbclusters="32768"
> kern.maxfiles="65536"
> kern.maxfilesperproc="32768"
> net.inet.ip.portrange.last="65535"
> 
> and works great. My internet is a solid 5.5mbps as it should be, and
> I've seen downloads come out of cache at 30 mbps.

david,

oh yea ... boom, boom, boom ... amazing difference.

thanks a million

mcq



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Re: [pfSense Support] PORT command in ftp proxy

2009-10-01 Thread Chris Buechler
On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 10:41 AM, Vick Khera  wrote:
> I'm trying to figure out how to make my ftp service pass the PCI
> security compliance (we take credit cards, so need the compliance).  I
> have pfSense 1.2.2 running the ftp proxy to my internal box, which is
> a FreeBSD 7.2 server running the stock ftpd.
>
> A probe from the outside looks like this:
>
>>telnet 66.250.193.115 21
> USER anonymous
> PASS word
> PORT 66,250,193,115,21,178
>
> and it responds
>
> 200 PORT command successful.
>
> In fact, it responds successful to connect to any IP and any port.
>

There's quite a bit of irony in using FTP yet wanting to be PCI compliant.

But to the point, what exactly is the setup you have here? NAT, public
IPs routed, bridged? I get dropped when trying an invalid port.

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Re: [pfSense Support] PORT command in ftp proxy

2009-10-01 Thread Evgeny Yurchenko

Vick Khera wrote:

I'm trying to figure out how to make my ftp service pass the PCI
security compliance (we take credit cards, so need the compliance).  I
have pfSense 1.2.2 running the ftp proxy to my internal box, which is
a FreeBSD 7.2 server running the stock ftpd.

A probe from the outside looks like this:

  

telnet 66.250.193.115 21


USER anonymous
PASS word
PORT 66,250,193,115,21,178

and it responds

200 PORT command successful.

In fact, it responds successful to connect to any IP and any port.

If I telnet to port 21 from inside the lan to the same freebsd server
and issue a PORT command to any host other than the one from where I
am connecting I get:

500 Illegal PORT range rejected.

The FreeBSD ftpd's PORT command by default is limited to privileged
ports on the same host as is connected to it.


  
I do not believe pftpx has setting this. I would disable ftp-helper on 
WAN and use NAT port-forwarding top you FreeBSD ftp-server (I use 
pfSense in this way).

Evgeny.

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Re: [pfSense Support] PORT command in ftp proxy

2009-10-01 Thread Vick Khera
On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 1:25 PM, Chris Buechler  wrote:
> There's quite a bit of irony in using FTP yet wanting to be PCI compliant.
>

I suppose to some extent.  However, it is the ideal tool for the job
of collecting large data files from arbitrary customers who do not
have their own servers, and only need to upload a file once ever.

If only sftp had "anonymous" mode I'd be a happy guy :-)

> But to the point, what exactly is the setup you have here? NAT, public
> IPs routed, bridged? I get dropped when trying an invalid port.
>

Plain old NAT on the firewall.  There's a hardware load balancer in
front, but it is just doing pass-thru for this IP.

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Re: [pfSense Support] PORT command in ftp proxy

2009-10-01 Thread Vick Khera
On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 1:41 PM, Evgeny Yurchenko  wrote:
> I do not believe pftpx has setting this. I would disable ftp-helper on WAN
> and use NAT port-forwarding top you FreeBSD ftp-server (I use pfSense in
> this way).

How portable is this to various ftp clients?  I've done this in the
past but it failed with some ftp clients, as I recall.

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Re: [pfSense Support] PORT command in ftp proxy

2009-10-01 Thread Keenan Tims
It works fine if you set everything up properly, but since many  
clients will use passive mode by default to get through NAT, you will  
need to forward a port range for passive mode use and configure your  
FTP server to use that port range.


Unfortunately, as far as I know there's no (easy, anyway...) way to  
have the firewall/NAT rules triggered automagically when a PASV  
request is made, so those ports will always be open to the internal  
machine, which might cause you other certification issues. I seem to  
recall that when I was using Linux iptables to do NAT there was an ftp  
connection tracking module that could do this automatically, but as  
far as I can tell FreeBSD (or at least pfSense) doesn't have this  
capability.


Keenan

Quoting Vick Khera :

On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 1:41 PM, Evgeny Yurchenko  
 wrote:

I do not believe pftpx has setting this. I would disable ftp-helper on WAN
and use NAT port-forwarding top you FreeBSD ftp-server (I use pfSense in
this way).


How portable is this to various ftp clients?  I've done this in the
past but it failed with some ftp clients, as I recall.

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Re: [pfSense Support] PORT command in ftp proxy

2009-10-01 Thread Zaharioudakis Nikos

Hi

I personally think that FTP could never pass the pci criteria as the  
transmission has no encryption and the "anonymous" does not comply  
anyway. (you always need that user authentication so as to log who  
tried/ succeeded etc)
So sftp is perhaps your best alternative  . Maybe you play with a pam  
module for ldap or AD in order to have a central authentication for  
your customers


Kind regards,
Nikos

Walking with Zimbra mobile
 ...using iPhone
Zaharioudakis Nikos
+30 694 720 40 63

On 01 Οκτ 2009, at 17:41, Vick Khera  wrote:


I'm trying to figure out how to make my ftp service pass the PCI
security compliance (we take credit cards, so need the compliance).  I
have pfSense 1.2.2 running the ftp proxy to my internal box, which is
a FreeBSD 7.2 server running the stock ftpd.

A probe from the outside looks like this:


telnet 66.250.193.115 21

USER anonymous
PASS word
PORT 66,250,193,115,21,178

and it responds

200 PORT command successful.

In fact, it responds successful to connect to any IP and any port.

If I telnet to port 21 from inside the lan to the same freebsd server
and issue a PORT command to any host other than the one from where I
am connecting I get:

500 Illegal PORT range rejected.

The FreeBSD ftpd's PORT command by default is limited to privileged
ports on the same host as is connected to it.

It seems that the PORT command is handled directly by the proxy (which
makes sense).  Is there a way to restrict the proxy to this same
security restriction?  I understand it violates the FTP protocol
technically, but in practice it doesn't break anything other than
abuse attempts.

Sort of disabling the ftp service altogether (which would be a hassle
for customers uploading data to us) what can I do to tighten the ftp
proxy?



Relevant section from ftpd man page:

-R  With this option set, ftpd will revert to historical  
behavior
with regard to security checks on user operations and  
restric-
tions on PORT requests.  Currently, ftpd will only honor  
PORT
commands directed to unprivileged ports on the remote  
user's host
(which violates the FTP protocol specification but  
closes some

security holes).

and from the security scanning company's description:

It is possible to force the FTP server to connect to third parties
hosts, by using the PORT command, aka FTP bounce.

The FTP bounce attack is used for establishing a connection to an
arbitrary machine by exploiting the PORT command. The basis for
successful attacks is in the RFC requirements. The RFC allows the
originating server to specify an arbitrary host and port to establish
a data connection.

This gives an attacker the ability to specify any host and port of
their choosing. If the target host is in a protected network, an
attacker can use FTP bounce to bypass firewall restrictions as well as
have the ability to discreetly perform port scans from the connected
host.

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[pfSense Support] Sorry for top posting

2009-10-01 Thread Zaharioudakis Nikos
I apologize top posting on my previous message. I was on the run with  
a mobile device.

Regards,
Nikos

Walking with Zimbra mobile
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Re: [pfSense Support] PORT command in ftp proxy

2009-10-01 Thread Evgeny Yurchenko

Vick Khera wrote:

On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 1:41 PM, Evgeny Yurchenko  wrote:
  

I do not believe pftpx has setting this. I would disable ftp-helper on WAN
and use NAT port-forwarding top you FreeBSD ftp-server (I use pfSense in
this way).



How portable is this to various ftp clients?  I've done this in the
past but it failed with some ftp clients, as I recall.
  
It is 100% (well let's put 99%) portable if you know what you are doing. 
Set up test box and we'll configure it for this mode.
As was fairly mentioned you will have to have some port range mapped to 
your FTP server, but this port range is fixed and I can't see if it can 
be used somehow to hack your FTP server as any way if this port is 
listening on FTP server it means ftp process expects connection on it in 
passive mode. No other process takes any port from this range starting 
listening on it.

Evgeny.

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[pfSense Support] Vista DHCP Issue

2009-10-01 Thread Curtis LaMasters
I've searched around and read about others with this issue.  Basically
I have 5 different Vista laptops that cannot get a DHCP address unless
I modify the registry and disable a broadcast setting.  Does anybody
have a solution to this that would prevent me from having to touch
each workstation?  They are public computers and not part of a domain
otherwise I would just do it via GPO.

Curtis LaMasters
http://www.curtis-lamasters.com
http://www.builtnetworks.com

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[pfSense Support] Load Balanced Passive FTP?

2009-10-01 Thread Nathan Eisenberg
Is there a way to load balance a range of ports with one rule?  For example, I 
have a 100 port passive FTP range defined.  Do I have to create 100 load 
balancer rules?

1.2.3

Best Regards,
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Re: [pfSense Support] Load Balanced Passive FTP?

2009-10-01 Thread Curtis LaMasters
On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 3:57 PM, Nathan Eisenberg
 wrote:
> Is there a way to load balance a range of ports with one rule?  For example, 
> I have a 100 port passive FTP range defined.  Do I have to create 100 load 
> balancer rules?
>
> 1.2.3
>
> Best Regards,
> Nathan Eisenberg
> Sr. Systems Administrator - Atlas Networks, LLC
> office: 206.577.3078 | suncadia: 206.210.5450
> www.atlasnetworks.us | www.suncadianet.com

Would an alias work?

Curtis LaMasters
http://www.curtis-lamasters.com
http://www.builtnetworks.com

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Re: [pfSense Support] Vista DHCP Issue

2009-10-01 Thread Jim Pingle
Curtis LaMasters wrote:
> I've searched around and read about others with this issue.  Basically
> I have 5 different Vista laptops that cannot get a DHCP address unless
> I modify the registry and disable a broadcast setting.  Does anybody
> have a solution to this that would prevent me from having to touch
> each workstation?  They are public computers and not part of a domain
> otherwise I would just do it via GPO.

This one is new to me. I have Vista machines at home and at work, and at
customer sites all behind pfSense and I've never had a problem obtaining
an IP address from DHCP.

Is there some other contributing factor perhaps?


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Re: [pfSense Support] Vista DHCP Issue

2009-10-01 Thread Chris Buechler
On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 4:10 PM, Curtis LaMasters
 wrote:
> I've searched around and read about others with this issue.  Basically
> I have 5 different Vista laptops that cannot get a DHCP address unless
> I modify the registry and disable a broadcast setting.  Does anybody
> have a solution to this that would prevent me from having to touch
> each workstation?

If you can find a solution for ISC dhcpd we'd implement it. I'm not
sure exactly how that ends up set on some Vista systems but not
others.

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Re: [pfSense Support] Load Balanced Passive FTP?

2009-10-01 Thread Chris Buechler
On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 4:57 PM, Nathan Eisenberg
 wrote:
> Is there a way to load balance a range of ports with one rule?

Same way you load balance one port. Create a rule that specifies the range.

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Re: [pfSense Support] Vista DHCP Issue

2009-10-01 Thread Jim Pingle
Chris Buechler wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 4:10 PM, Curtis LaMasters
>  wrote:
>> I've searched around and read about others with this issue.  Basically
>> I have 5 different Vista laptops that cannot get a DHCP address unless
>> I modify the registry and disable a broadcast setting.  Does anybody
>> have a solution to this that would prevent me from having to touch
>> each workstation?
> 
> If you can find a solution for ISC dhcpd we'd implement it. I'm not
> sure exactly how that ends up set on some Vista systems but not
> others.

My repair bench segment is also behind pfSense, and it has seen hundreds
of different machines of all makes and models, many of them using Vista,
and I've not had one yet that couldn't pull an IP address from DHCP on
pfSense. It's always Just Worked(tm)

Could this be induced by the switch, perhaps?

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Re: [pfSense Support] Vista DHCP Issue

2009-10-01 Thread Chris Buechler
On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 6:07 PM, Jim Pingle  wrote:
> Chris Buechler wrote:
>> On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 4:10 PM, Curtis LaMasters
>>  wrote:
>>> I've searched around and read about others with this issue.  Basically
>>> I have 5 different Vista laptops that cannot get a DHCP address unless
>>> I modify the registry and disable a broadcast setting.  Does anybody
>>> have a solution to this that would prevent me from having to touch
>>> each workstation?
>>
>> If you can find a solution for ISC dhcpd we'd implement it. I'm not
>> sure exactly how that ends up set on some Vista systems but not
>> others.
>
> My repair bench segment is also behind pfSense, and it has seen hundreds
> of different machines of all makes and models, many of them using Vista,
> and I've not had one yet that couldn't pull an IP address from DHCP on
> pfSense. It's always Just Worked(tm)
>
> Could this be induced by the switch, perhaps?
>

It's the DHCP broadcast flag that causes problems.
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/928233

I'm not sure why it's inconsistent. I suspect some PC manufacturers
probably changed that default to avoid support headaches.

Windows 7 switched it back to "off" by default so obviously MS
realized what a wreck that one was in Vista (one of a long list).

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RE: [pfSense Support] Load Balanced Passive FTP?

2009-10-01 Thread Nathan Eisenberg

> -Original Message-
> From: Chris Buechler [mailto:cbuech...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 2:58 PM
> To: support@pfsense.com
> Subject: Re: [pfSense Support] Load Balanced Passive FTP?
> 
> On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 4:57 PM, Nathan Eisenberg
>  wrote:
> > Is there a way to load balance a range of ports with one rule?
> 
> Same way you load balance one port. Create a rule that specifies the
> range.
> 

Not sure I follow... If I go to set up a new pool with a port-range, I get :

'The following input errors were detected:
* The port must be an integer between 1 and 65535.'

Best Regards,
Nathan Eisenberg



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Re: [pfSense Support] Load Balanced Passive FTP?

2009-10-01 Thread Chris Buechler
On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 7:02 PM, Nathan Eisenberg
 wrote:
>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Chris Buechler [mailto:cbuech...@gmail.com]
>> Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 2:58 PM
>> To: support@pfsense.com
>> Subject: Re: [pfSense Support] Load Balanced Passive FTP?
>>
>> On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 4:57 PM, Nathan Eisenberg
>>  wrote:
>> > Is there a way to load balance a range of ports with one rule?
>>
>> Same way you load balance one port. Create a rule that specifies the
>> range.
>>
>
> Not sure I follow... If I go to set up a new pool with a port-range, I get :
>
> 'The following input errors were detected:
>    * The port must be an integer between 1 and 65535.'
>

Oh, for inbound load balancing, I thought you meant outbound. No, no
way to do that for a range without putting in one for each port. You
can't balance passive FTP port range like that anyway, there's no
correspondence between the state on the control channel and the data
channel, they would likely end up going to different servers.

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Re: [pfSense Support] Quad NIC's?

2009-10-01 Thread Joshua Schmidlkofer

On 9/22/09 8:07 PM, Morgan Reed wrote:

On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 10:26, Luke Jaeger  wrote:
   

Are there any known issues with quad NIC cards on a pfSense box?
 

Should be fine, your average (decent) quad NIC is a PCI(express)
bridge on a card with what essentially amounts to 4 individual network
adapters on it, far as pfSense is concerned there's 4 NICs (of
whatever variety) plugged in.

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I have a box with 2 Quad-port E1000 cards in it, actually, two, because 
I am using CARP for HA.


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RE: [pfSense Support] Load Balanced Passive FTP?

2009-10-01 Thread Nathan Eisenberg
> -Original Message-
> From: Chris Buechler [mailto:cbuech...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 4:24 PM
> To: support@pfsense.com
> Subject: Re: [pfSense Support] Load Balanced Passive FTP?
> 
> Oh, for inbound load balancing, I thought you meant outbound. No, no
> way to do that for a range without putting in one for each port. You
> can't balance passive FTP port range like that anyway, there's no
> correspondence between the state on the control channel and the data
> channel, they would likely end up going to different servers.

Yep - inbound!  While I respect the marvel that is PFSense's outbound load 
balancing, I prefer using BGP costs and IS-IS weights at the router.  By the 
way, when will PFSense support OSPF and IS-IS?  ;)

On topic - failover mode (as opposed to load balanced mode) should work 
correctly if I can get the virtual servers set up, correct?

This is one more reason why FTP sucks.  Not that the world needed another one.

Best Regards,
Nathan Eisenberg
Sr. Systems Administrator - Atlas Networks, LLC
office: 206.577.3078 | suncadia: 206.210.5450
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Re: [pfSense Support] Vista DHCP Issue

2009-10-01 Thread apiase...@midatlanticbb.com

Chris Buechler wrote:

On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 6:07 PM, Jim Pingle  wrote:
  

Chris Buechler wrote:


On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 4:10 PM, Curtis LaMasters
 wrote:
  

I've searched around and read about others with this issue.  Basically
I have 5 different Vista laptops that cannot get a DHCP address unless
I modify the registry and disable a broadcast setting.  Does anybody
have a solution to this that would prevent me from having to touch
each workstation?


If you can find a solution for ISC dhcpd we'd implement it. I'm not
sure exactly how that ends up set on some Vista systems but not
others.
  

My repair bench segment is also behind pfSense, and it has seen hundreds
of different machines of all makes and models, many of them using Vista,
and I've not had one yet that couldn't pull an IP address from DHCP on
pfSense. It's always Just Worked(tm)

Could this be induced by the switch, perhaps?




It's the DHCP broadcast flag that causes problems.
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/928233

I'm not sure why it's inconsistent. I suspect some PC manufacturers
probably changed that default to avoid support headaches.

Windows 7 switched it back to "off" by default so obviously MS
realized what a wreck that one was in Vista (one of a long list).
  
I have also had this problem with Vista clients and pfSense DHCP. I have 
seen it first hand, my XP laptop will grab it while the Vista won't on 
the same exact connection. Generally i tell my customer that it's not 
our problem and Vista is broken. Call Microsoft and explain that Windows 
XP can get online and Vista can't. I also tell my customers to run 
windows update and make sure the system is patched up.


In one situation we had a HP procurve switch installed. We had tons of 
complaints that vista would not work but XP would. We replaced it with a 
Cisco 2950 and the complaints stopped. I have no idea why that would 
cause it to work. I have just come to believe Vista is on par with 
Windows ME for the worst OS ever.


I've heard nothing but good things from windows 7 so far. I really hope 
Microsoft got it together this time.


Adam

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Re: [pfSense Support] Vista DHCP Issue

2009-10-01 Thread Jim Pingle
apiase...@midatlanticbb.com wrote:
> In one situation we had a HP procurve switch installed. We had tons of
> complaints that vista would not work but XP would. We replaced it with a
> Cisco 2950 and the complaints stopped. I have no idea why that would
> cause it to work. I have just come to believe Vista is on par with
> Windows ME for the worst OS ever.

My switches at work are all Cisco 2924 and 2950s. My one at home is just
the back end of a Linksys WRT54Gv5 though. Haven't had a problem with
either one. One customer site off the top of my head that also has
pfSense+Vista has a 24 port Netgear 10/100 switch. I don't know of
anyone with HP switches though personally.

A couple of the threads I read suggested that the replies to a "broken"
Vista request might not be making out of the NIC on the server side, or
if it is, it may not be making it back to the clients. Some
tcpdump/wireshark output from a broken request and reply from the server
and client might be enlightening.

If the packets don't leave the server NIC, you could try a few random
things like disabling checksums to see if it makes any difference (not
that it should, but it's something to try...)

Jim


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RE: [pfSense Support] Vista DHCP Issue

2009-10-01 Thread Tim Dickson

On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 6:07 PM, Jim Pingle  wrote:
> Chris Buechler wrote:
>> On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 4:10 PM, Curtis LaMasters
>>  wrote:
>>> I've searched around and read about others with this issue.  Basically
>>> I have 5 different Vista laptops that cannot get a DHCP address unless
>>> I modify the registry and disable a broadcast setting.  Does anybody
>>> have a solution to this that would prevent me from having to touch
>>> each workstation?
>>
>> If you can find a solution for ISC dhcpd we'd implement it. I'm not
>> sure exactly how that ends up set on some Vista systems but not
>> others.
>
> My repair bench segment is also behind pfSense, and it has seen hundreds
> of different machines of all makes and models, many of them using Vista,
> and I've not had one yet that couldn't pull an IP address from DHCP on
> pfSense. It's always Just Worked(tm)
>
> Could this be induced by the switch, perhaps?
>

I've had it happen first hand... it's a pain in the *ss!!!
Sometimes an elevated CMD prompt - ipconfig /release /renew  works
But I'd say it's about an 45% success rate.
Next step is to disable/renew the adapter - that brings it to about a 65%
success rate.

This is after following the broadcast regedits - turning off IP6, etc on
this machine btw.

The good news is that it only happens about once a month, but when it does
- man it's annoying. 

I do run procurve switches on my network - by dhcp server is a windows 2003
server.  (pfSense being the gateway though)
If anyone else finds a permanent solution - shout it out - because I've yet
to find one.
(My only "permanent" solution so far - was to upgrade to the RTM of win7)
-Tim




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Re: [pfSense Support] Vista DHCP Issue

2009-10-01 Thread apiase...@midatlanticbb.com

Tim Dickson wrote:

On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 6:07 PM, Jim Pingle  wrote:
  

Chris Buechler wrote:


On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 4:10 PM, Curtis LaMasters
 wrote:
  

I've searched around and read about others with this issue.  Basically
I have 5 different Vista laptops that cannot get a DHCP address unless
I modify the registry and disable a broadcast setting.  Does anybody
have a solution to this that would prevent me from having to touch
each workstation?


If you can find a solution for ISC dhcpd we'd implement it. I'm not
sure exactly how that ends up set on some Vista systems but not
others.
  

My repair bench segment is also behind pfSense, and it has seen hundreds
of different machines of all makes and models, many of them using Vista,
and I've not had one yet that couldn't pull an IP address from DHCP on
pfSense. It's always Just Worked(tm)

Could this be induced by the switch, perhaps?




I've had it happen first hand... it's a pain in the *ss!!!
Sometimes an elevated CMD prompt - ipconfig /release /renew  works
But I'd say it's about an 45% success rate.
Next step is to disable/renew the adapter - that brings it to about a 65%
success rate.

This is after following the broadcast regedits - turning off IP6, etc on
this machine btw.

The good news is that it only happens about once a month, but when it does
- man it's annoying. 


I do run procurve switches on my network - by dhcp server is a windows 2003
server.  (pfSense being the gateway though)
If anyone else finds a permanent solution - shout it out - because I've yet
to find one.
(My only "permanent" solution so far - was to upgrade to the RTM of win7)
-Tim
  
I'm wondering if a patch was added to windows update at some point to 
fix the problem. Is your Vista totally updated?


I find it really interesting, that your using Microsoft DHCP service. 
According to Microsft should be fully compatible with Vista.


I would suggest swapping your switch out, to see if it helps. Cisco or 
Linksys seem to be okay.


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Re: [pfSense Support] Vista DHCP Issue

2009-10-01 Thread Jim Pingle
apiase...@midatlanticbb.com wrote:
> I'm wondering if a patch was added to windows update at some point to
> fix the problem. Is your Vista totally updated?

Just this week I've had my hands on several fully patched Vista machines
(including my laptop) as well as two other laptops -- one with Vista and
no service packs or updates at all, and one with only SP1 present. All
of them worked.

It's very inconsistent. I wish I could reproduce it somewhere, it would
make investigating it easier.

I just checked on my laptop, http://support.microsoft.com/kb/928233 (the
KB article linked by Chris in another post in this threat) mentions a
registry setting to force the broadcast flag off for non-Windows DHCP
Servers:

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\Tcpip\Parameters\Interfaces\{GUID}

"DhcpConnForceBroadcastFlag"=dword:

On my laptop this is set to 1, and it still works for me. I've even
plugged directly into my ALIX with no switch and pulled an IP from there
with this laptop, no switch involved.

Makes me really suspect some kind of combination of switch, NIC
brand/driver on the pfSense box, or some other interaction of that
nature. The only way to track it down is probably to collect more data
about setups where the problem appears. When it comes to managed
switches, there could even be a setting on the switch that causes (or
prevents) the problem from appearing.

Jim

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Re: [pfSense Support] Vista DHCP Issue

2009-10-01 Thread Chris Buechler
On Fri, Oct 2, 2009 at 1:06 AM, Jim Pingle  wrote:
>
> HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\Tcpip\Parameters\Interfaces\{GUID}
>
> "DhcpConnForceBroadcastFlag"=dword:
>
> On my laptop this is set to 1, and it still works for me. I've even
> plugged directly into my ALIX with no switch and pulled an IP from there
> with this laptop, no switch involved.
>

Interesting. I long ago blew away every Vista install I had, mind
sending me a pcap of a DHCP request from a host with that enabled?

Curtis, or anyone else who can replicate problems with a Vista client,
ditto, capturing the DHCP request in Wireshark and sending me the pcap
would be appreciated.

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[pfSense Support] Wierd issue with 1:1 NAT

2009-10-01 Thread Nathan Eisenberg
Hey,

I've not had this problem before - I have a PFSense firewall with a lot of 1:1 
NATs.  For almost every outbound connection, the traffic seems to originate 
from the correct IP.  For example, if I SSH from behind the firewall to a 
server outside of the firewall, and then use 'last', I see the 1:1 IP.  
However, if I visit a web site, like http://whatismyip.com, I get the IP 
address of the firewall.  Very odd...

Thoughts?

Best Regards,
Nathan Eisenberg
Sr. Systems Administrator - Atlas Networks, LLC
office: 206.577.3078 | suncadia: 206.210.5450
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Re: [pfSense Support] Wierd issue with 1:1 NAT

2009-10-01 Thread Chris Buechler
On Fri, Oct 2, 2009 at 1:25 AM, Nathan Eisenberg
 wrote:
> Hey,
>
> I've not had this problem before - I have a PFSense firewall with a lot of 
> 1:1 NATs.  For almost every outbound connection, the traffic seems to 
> originate from the correct IP.  For example, if I SSH from behind the 
> firewall to a server outside of the firewall, and then use 'last', I see the 
> 1:1 IP.  However, if I visit a web site, like http://whatismyip.com, I get 
> the IP address of the firewall.  Very odd...
>
> Thoughts?
>

Using Squid?
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RE: [pfSense Support] Wierd issue with 1:1 NAT

2009-10-01 Thread Nathan Eisenberg
> -Original Message-
> From: cbuech...@gmail.com [mailto:cbuech...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of
> Chris Buechler
> Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 10:34 PM
> To: support@pfsense.com
> Subject: Re: [pfSense Support] Wierd issue with 1:1 NAT
> 
> 
> Using Squid?
> http://doc.pfsense.org/index.php/Why_does_my_system_using_1:1_NAT_still
> _appear_to_access_the_web_via_the_pfSense_router%27s_WAN_IP%3F
> 

Bingo.  Obvious in retrospect.  Thanks!

Best Regards,
Nathan Eisenberg
Sr. Systems Administrator - Atlas Networks, LLC
office: 206.577.3078 | suncadia: 206.210.5450
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Re: [pfSense Support] Wierd issue with 1:1 NAT

2009-10-01 Thread Jostein Elvaker Haande
On Fri, Oct 2, 2009 at 7:33 AM, Chris Buechler  wrote:
> On Fri, Oct 2, 2009 at 1:25 AM, Nathan Eisenberg
>  wrote:
>> Hey,
>> I've not had this problem before - I have a PFSense firewall with a lot of 
>> 1:1 NATs.  For almost every outbound connection, the traffic seems to 
>> originate from the correct IP.  For example, if I SSH from behind the 
>> firewall to a server outside of the firewall, and then use 'last', I see the 
>> 1:1 IP.  However, if I visit a web site, like http://whatismyip.com, I get 
>> the IP address of the firewall.  Very odd...
>> Thoughts?
> Using Squid?

Hehe, good to see that so "many" make this mistake, as I felt like a
fool when I realised this mistake myself.

And when you think of it, it's bloody obvious and logical too. Though,
I'm not Klingon :))

-- 
Yours sincerely Jostein Elvaker Haande
A free society is a place where it is safe to be unpopular

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