Re: What happened to the form manager

2009-11-05 Thread MikeyG

Leonidas Jones wrote:

Philip Chee wrote:

On 05/11/2009 04:21, MikeyG wrote:

Phillip Jones wrote:



/snip/


Apparently the Form History Control extension has been SeaMonkey 2.0
compatible since SeaMonkey 2.0a3.

Form History Control 1.1.3
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/seamonkey/addon/12021

Screenshot:
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/images/p/32482/1242826854


= quote =
An extension to View and Manage form history entries giving you full
control over what is stored.

If you ever had to clear your entire form history because you keyed in a
password in the wrong form field, or you just want to easily correct
misspelled entries, this is the extension for you.

This extension adds a submenu to the tools menu giving you access to a
powerful formhistory control center. This extension also adds a button
to the privacy tab of the Firefox options. The control is also
accessible from the right-click context-menu presenting even more
options for managing the formhistory entries.

Form History Control will display all form data that has been saved by
the web browser with options to filter the data either by keyword,
active page, active field or cleanup criteria. It is furthermore
possible to sort the data by parameter including form field name, value,
date or popularity.

Each entry can be edited in the interface which is very helpful to
correct misspelled entries in the history saving the hassle of deleting
and entering the data anew. Individual or multiple entries can be
deleted right from within the interface.

The cleanup tab contains settings to automate the removal of form
history. It includes options to remove form history data that has not
been used for some time and those that have been used less than x times.

This extension also offers the possibility to export/import the form
history data as well as the cleanup configuration, allowing you to
exchange data between multiple Firefox configurations.
= end quote =

Phil



Well, that should solve that!

Installed fine in 2.0, and it should meet everyone's needs. Thanks so
much, Phil!

Lee


I have not checked it out yet, but I will. Yes, thanks, Phil!

MikeyG
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Re: SeaMonkey seems not to post to NNTP using auth

2009-11-05 Thread chicagofan

u...@domain.invalid wrote:

chicagofan wrote:


Did you see Gabrielle's message which said, her problems went away after
she deleted her existing news account, and set it up again? Have you tried
that?


I have the same problem with my upgrade using news.ett.com.ua - and this is
a test on news.mozilla.org so if you can read this, then using a new news
server does not cause problems which are there for an old news server
(pre-upgrade).



Reading you just fine.  :)  I'm not following what you are saying about
causing problems,  but I understood Gabrielle to have solved her problems by
re-creating the accounts and newsgroups she needed, with 2.0... after the 
migration.

If you're saying mozilla.org worked on your previous version, and also works in
2.0, but ett.com does not, I get it.  :)  I'm just guessing, but it seems like
the varying methods ISPs or news servers use for log in are throwing SM a curve.

I wish I had the answer, but other than verifying that server settings are
correct for each server used, and checking the SMTP settings, I'm at a loss.
Have you checked with ett. com for some suggestions?

I'm worried about what may happen to me this month, when my ISP makes some
changes to my sign on [for security purposes they say].  We are going to have to
add our zip code to the sign in.  That should be interesting.  :(
bj




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Seamonkey 2 as Default

2009-11-05 Thread Cecil Bankston
I installed Seamonkey 2 in its own directory and left the 1.1.18 
installation in place just in case.  The profile imported with only a 
few minor problems with settings that have been mentioned in other 
threads.  External programs that call for the default browser or e-mail 
program still open the 1.1.18 versions.  Seamonkey 2 preferences show 
that Seamonkey is already the default browser with no obvious means of 
specifying Seamonkey 2.  How can I make SM2 the default?

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Re: Seamonkey 2 as Default

2009-11-05 Thread Anonymous S.

Cecil Bankston wrote:
I installed Seamonkey 2 in its own directory and left the 1.1.18 
installation in place just in case.  The profile imported with only a 
few minor problems with settings that have been mentioned in other 
threads.  External programs that call for the default browser or e-mail 
program still open the 1.1.18 versions.  Seamonkey 2 preferences show 
that Seamonkey is already the default browser with no obvious means of 
specifying Seamonkey 2.  How can I make SM2 the default?


Hi there,

If you are running Windows (XP/Vista...), you might like to use regedit. 
Check regkey below:

   HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\HTTP
   HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\https
   HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\mailto

Normally, application path would be in shell\open\command
like: HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\HTTP\shell\open\command
and you will find application path here. 
C:\PROGRA~1\MOZILLA.ORG\SEAMON~1\SEAMON~1.EXE -osint -url %1 --This is 
my setting.
Maybe you can change those path to SM2's path and save the regkey, but 
backup first!!!

just a-little-google-it, so I didn't try this method practically.

In honesty, regedit is not always a good idea, let it be the last solution.
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Re: TEXT PARTIALLY GRAY INSTEAD OF BLACK. WAS:

2009-11-05 Thread Paul B. Gallagher

Daniel wrote:

James, some people use signature blocks which contain their names, 
contact details, amusing quotes, whatever. These can be added, 
automatically, by telling SM where the sig file is.


Then, at the end of the real message, SM adds a sig delimiter (a line 
consisting of two dashes followed by a space) and then adds, usually in 
a lighter text, the sig file.


Actually, the sig file is grayed out as a display feature, just as 
quoted material is italicized or reddened (depending on your settings), 
but if you look at the source code you'll see nothing -- no special 
codes to make it do that. SM, like its predecessors, recognizes quote 
marks and sig delimiters and uses that input to modify the display.


If things are happening right, when that message is quoted the sig 
delimiter and the sig file are not quoted.


But, if things don't happen right, the sig delimiter might not be 
removed, so anything after the sig delimiter is in the lighter text.


Can be a real problem if people top post, i.e. reply at the top of the 
message.


Yep. Everything after their sig, including the entire original message, 
is treated as their sig, which means a) it's grayed out, and b) it's 
stripped out when the next person replies, a sort of automatic pruning. ;-)


--
All it takes is a line of dash-dash-space for SM to decide this is the 
sig and everything from here on out is grayed and stripped from replies. 
See? My message now contains three sig delimiters, and everything after 
the first one is grayed out.


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Re: Can't get profile to Seamonkey2.0

2009-11-05 Thread Chuck

William Morrison wrote:
Ok, here's the deal. I'm running XP SP3 have a good working 
Seamonkey1.1.18 but can't get it's profile to migrate to 2.0 I've 
followed all the instructions but still no good. I've got my bookmarks 
moved over but can't import my mail settings, every time I try to import 
my mail 2.0 only gives me the option to move mail from Thunderbird which 
I've never had. I've tried the command line approach of -P and 
-migration but neither have helped. I've never had this much trouble 
setting up a program before wasn't there some way for the project to 
just have 2.0 do this itself like 1.1.18 and all previous upgrades did. 
This is getting frustrating I like Mozilla and have been using their 
products since Netscape 4.0 and used it right up until, what was it 8.0 
turn it into IE, which sucked, but this is ridiculous. It's just a 
single user computer so this should be this hard!!!




Try this route if you want the profile on a drive other than C:

Previous post on Nov 2
Moving SM2 Profile

Gives method for installing your profile on D: with a user designated name.
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Re: the Right click to open in a New Tab problem

2009-11-05 Thread Anonymous S.

dominique wrote:

Daisy Zhao wrote, On 11/5/2009 11:39 AM:

I'm a newbe to Seamonkey from firefox,and I'm satisfied with it in
general. But what I hate most is every time I right click a link to open
in a new tab,I just go direct to that page. Is it a way to stay at the
current page and let the new tab open in the background?

Go to: Edit -- preferences -- Browser -- Tabbed browsing
In there, uncheck the second line from top: Switch to new tab opened 
from links
That should do it (although on my side I do a middle-click to open a new 
tab from a link).



This let me wanna say, in this time newly seamonkey2 released, I DO MISS 
MULTIZILLA for seamonkey2.


SM2.0 default tabbed browsing behavior don't suit for me today. I can 
not turn it smoothly with preferences or about:config, and lots of 
things to make it more handy(e.g. more powerful session, tab behavior, 
feed reader, download bar...).I do still wait for update: former 
extension and SM2.

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Re: Stes that have Security Questions

2009-11-05 Thread Paul B. Gallagher

Martin Freitag wrote:


Whatever... afaik InternetExplorer doesn't have a FormManager like that
at all, so this might be a Cookie issue instead?


I think you're on the right track.

If the page doesn't present a form to be filled, no form manager or 
password manager will respond.


I suspect IE on the OP's machine is set to accept all cookies and save 
them forever, so when the OP returns the cookie is still there and the 
site reads it, so it doesn't ask the question. SM is set differently 
(there are dozens of possible settings) so the cookie is not already 
present at initial page loading and the site asks the question.


Just for an example, I have my machine set to accept /only/ session 
cookies, which means it clears all cookies every time I shut SM down. In 
my case, the site would always ask the security question.


In Internet Exploiter 8, you can now set the program to clear all 
cookies on exit if that is your preference:


Tools | Options | General tab

(You can get to the same dialog without launching the program via 
Control Panel | Internet Options)


Under Browsing history, check the box Delete browsing history on 
exit, and then click the Delete... button (don't worry, this won't 
actually delete anything yet). In the Delete browsing history dialog 
that appears, check the box for Cookies and any other elements you 
want to delete at each program shutdown.


Caution: These deletions may not be implemented in case of a program or 
system crash.


IE does have a rudimentary form filler, called AutoComplete. For more 
information, search that term in their help file.


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Re: Was SeaMonkey 2.0 really ready for release?

2009-11-05 Thread User

OldCroc wrote:

With all the problems that too many seasoned users, of SeaMonkey,are
having, is it possible that the Final release of version 2.0 was
released PREMATURELY?? Yes, there are many satisfied users, also, but
there ARE too many who are NOT and the attitude of the developers
should be to listen to the users, and try to rectify Version 2.0 OR
WITHDRAW IT UNTIL IT REALLY IS READY!!! I have read where it is said
that the old code was not usable anymore, or could Not be corrected,
but it seems to me, that Version 2.0 IS NO BETTER! WHY DID THE
DEVELOPERS COMPLETELY IGNORE WHAT THE USERS WERE SAYING ALL ALONG, AND
THEN DEVELOP A LIMPING NOT-READY FOR PRIME TIME VERSION, ANYWAY?



In this regard I would have to agree in general with the assessment of Seamonkey 
developer Robert Kaiser who has responded to your comment in this thread. To be 
fair, overall, the code stability of the SM 2.0 application ITSELF is basically 
as good as, if not more stable than, all previous SM 1.X versions I have used in 
the last few years. It's true that the automated profile and user data files 
migration can be tricky, and the automatic migration utility have varying 
success with this depending on the user's system set up / configuration with 
past SM 1.X versions.


There are also a lot of different upgrade / migration methods that users of 
different experience ranges use which can also impact the success of the 
automatic migration. For myself, I have always performed migration for the 
Mozilla suite and Seamonkey releases manually. If the user has a thorough 
understanding of the key profile files and configuration files that needs to be 
migrated, the automatic migration process can actually be skipped / omitted 
completely for an even cleaner migration outcome, which is exactly how I 
migrated from SM 1.X to 2.X with great success.


I applaud the Seamonkey developers NOT to reinvent the wheel even though in SM 
2.0 they moved to a completely different developer toolkit much more based on 
Mozilla Firefox and Thunderbird. But the great thing was that all the user data 
files, profile configuration files from SM 1.X were essentially by and large 
fully compatible with SM 2.0. The only real exception I've found so far is the 
browser history data file, where SM 2.0 used a completely different format. Even 
that was easy to migrate because I found out at some point that SM 2.0 will auto 
convert an old format browser history file to the new history data file format 
if one just simply planted the old browser history file in the SM 2.0 profile 
directory, and when SM 2.0 was started up, the application was smart enough to 
detect the presence of the old history data file and immediately convert it to 
the new format.


While I understand that not every user has in-depth knowledge of Mozilla suite 
and SM profile configuration files and a manual migration method is not always 
feasible for all users, my personal experience with manual migration was 
delightfully easy and smooth, and I did not need to end up with a second set of 
my e-mail data files had I used the automatic migration method. There are many 
subtle but important improvements in the SM 2.0 Messenger mail/news client, not 
the least of which is the way it has improved and more logical / sensible thread 
sorting logic compared to SM 1.X.


Before I performed SM 1.X to 2.0 migration, I performed a complete hard disc 
image back up so that I had the option to if necessary, completely restore my 
hard disc partitions to exactly the way they were before anything was changed, 
had I ended up with a botched migration. Then all that was necessary was to 
install SM 2.0 and create a new profile in a disc location that I preferred, 
delete the default profile, and then manually migrate all the SM 1.X key profile 
files into the SM 2.0 profile directory. I even decided to let SM 2.0 suck-in 
the parameters from the SM 1.X PREFS.JS file even though I was unsure of the 
final outcome but decided that it was a worthwhile risk to try, because I knew 
that PREFS.JS would be automatically rewritten by SM 2.0 upon quitting th 
application anyway, so any SM 1.X PREFS.JS parameters would either by recognized 
by SM 2.0 when it first read it, or just ignore old prefs parameters. But SM 2.0 
sucked-in all the 1.X prefs parameters I had successfully and as a result, I did 
NOT even have to recreate / reconfigure all my multiple mail accounts, SM 2.0 
immediately found them at their original locations. To recreate all my multiple 
mail account and newsgroup settings would have been a pain in the neck. It was 
pretty much a snap. There was some minor PREFS.JS editing I had to perform, 
because I decided to move my news folder location, but it was a simple search 
and replace operation using a text editor on the PREFS.JS file. So for power 
users who know the application intimately, this is one option to migrate. But I 
think that anyone who has that much familiarity with SM 

Re: Ping Lee

2009-11-05 Thread Lou

Leonidas Jones wrote:

Lou wrote:

Since I know you are active in TB and FF groups as well as SM...
Will SM work fine on a Win7 netbook? FF / TB??

TIA

Lou


The fact that its a netbook should not cause a problem.  I've got SM and 
FF up and running fine in Vista, so I would not anticipate any problems 
with Win 7.\, though I haven't tried it yet.


Lee

Thanks to you and Philip
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Re: Seamonkey 2.0 Display Size

2009-11-05 Thread Martin Freitag
starrin schrieb:
 Have 2 PCs, both now running 2.0, up from 1.1.18.  on wide screens.
 Vista machine came up fine.  XP machine display of home page (My
 Yahoo), or any bookmark sites I select,  is gigantic.  Same for its
 bookmarks sidebar.  I can Ctrl - - , and reduce font size, but can't
 make it stick. And it makes no changes in sidebar, whatsoever (It
 would even help if I could get rid of those + and - signs in front of
 folders in the sidebar, which appear in XP but not in Vista)
 Any help would be appreciated.

Have you accidently set a minimum font size in the preferences?


 OR
 Can I simply revert to 1.1.18 by reinstalling it?  Must I remove 2.0
 first?  Do I have to worry about profiles since they are in 2
 different places - at least as I understand 2.0 changes?

two profiles, two Seamonkeys. Besides not bing able to run them at the
same time without additional effort (-no-remote paramater needed for
sm2), you can even have both installed at the same time.
regards

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Re: password exporter for 2.0?

2009-11-05 Thread Martin Freitag
Bill Davidsen schrieb:
 I still work with people who want passwords and logins recorded in a
 spreadsheet. I have a tool which will export to HTML, from which I can
 (painfully) extract what is specified, but before I give up I'll ask
 again, is there a *working* tool to save password manager data in some
 sensible format, csv (or xml as far 2nd choice), which works?
 
 I have had some suggestions, but most include hand waving phrases like
 don't check validation or may need cosmetic rewrites and such, and
 the programs appear to be for SM 1.1.xx or old Firefox. Unless there's a
 skip validation and rewrite by magic to 2.0 format feature I missed,
 these don't cut it.
 
 If anyone has a add-on which works, please include a link to the magic
 incantation used to install it.

about:config
extensions.checkcompatibility = false
https://addons.mozilla.org/de/firefox/addon/2848

Otherwise grab the xpi from there, save it on your HDD, unzip it, change
the conent of the install.rdf so that seamonkey's max-version is 2.1 or
so and re-zip it. Then you can deploy it to yur users if necessary.
regards

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Re: SM and Google Desktop Search

2009-11-05 Thread Martin Freitag
George Carden schrieb:

 Well, I gave that a try and it still does not work. Google Desktop IS
 indexing browser web pages content, but not e-mail. Sure would love to
 get this problem solved. I know I'm not the only person having
 difficulty with this, as others in various groups online have had the
 same trouble as well.  I'm still thinking the problem lies in some
 simple variation of these instructions posted a couple of years ago for
 SeaMonkey V 1.  Here they are again:
 
 0. Exit SeaMonkey and Google Desktop Search
 1. Open up C:\Program Files\Google\Google Desktop Search
 2. Open up C:\Program Files\Mozilla.org\Seamonkey\components
 3. Copy GoogleDesktopMozilla.dll, GoogleDesktopMozillaStub.js, and
 GoogleDesktopMozillaStub.xpt from #1 to #2
 4. Run cmd.exe
 5. Type: cd  C:\Program Files\Mozilla.org\Seamonkey\components
 6. Type: ..\regxpcom
 7. Restart SeaMonkey
 
 
 Now, with SeaMonkey 2.0, the Program Files location is a little
 different. So, I tried altering step 2 so that it would actually be:
 
 2. Open up C:\Program Files\Seamonkey\components
 
 I assumed that, logically, then, step 5 should be:
 
 5. Type: cd C:\Program Files\Seamonkey\components
 
 I then did step 6 and got this response:
 
  '..\regxpcom is not recognized as an internal or external command,
 operable program or batch file. 
 
 Does anyone have any thoughts at this point? (I know just enough about
 DOS to be dangerous.)

regxpcom.exe was a file in the old SM1, it's not existing in a
SM2-directory, therefore you cannot execute it.
Have you tried asking google yet? ;-)
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Re: Download Completes Box

2009-11-05 Thread Jens Hatlak

David E. Ross wrote:

Should not browser.download.manager.showAlertOnComplete be set to false
when the checkbox is cleared?


Exactly. ;-)


See bug #526399 athttps://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=526399.


Fixed for the next nightlies and SM 2.0.1.

Greetings,

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SM 2.0 personal toolbar strangeness...

2009-11-05 Thread Andrew Paxton

Hi,
Apologies if this has already been discussed  I've missed it - just
joined this list and there is a lot of stuff..

Just upgraded to Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT
5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.1.4) Gecko/20091017 SeaMonkey/2.0 on both my home 
work PCs (winxp)

on my home machine, everything was fine; however, on my work pc, the
installation over-wrote my bookmarks (not a prob as I backed it up), and
my personal tool bar with the defaults.

Try as I might, I can't drag any links onto the personal toolbar on the
work PC - fine on the home one.

Any pointers?

Cheers,


PS tried the mozilla.support.seamonkey NG - can read, but can't post..

A News (NNTP) error occurred: Posting Failed (Article NOT Posted to a
Valid Newsgroup

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Re: What happened to the form manager

2009-11-05 Thread Phillip Jones

Philip Chee wrote:

On 05/11/2009 04:21, MikeyG wrote:

Phillip Jones wrote:



In the particular page that you have information typed got to view menu
Page info click on forms tab. Once its in there if you typed the
information wrong its there forever. On the old forms manager you could
actually go to each item and fix mistakes such as typing your address
wrong or your cell phone has changed.



Amen, again!!!


Apparently the Form History Control extension has been SeaMonkey 2.0
compatible since SeaMonkey 2.0a3.

  Form History Control 1.1.3
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/seamonkey/addon/12021

Screenshot:
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/images/p/32482/1242826854


= quote =
An extension to View and Manage form history entries giving you full
control over what is stored.

If you ever had to clear your entire form history because you keyed in a
password in the wrong form field, or you just want to easily correct
misspelled entries, this is the extension for you.

This extension adds a submenu to the tools menu giving you access to a
powerful formhistory control center. This extension also adds a button
to the privacy tab of the Firefox options. The control is also
accessible from the right-click context-menu presenting even more
options for managing the formhistory entries.

Form History Control will display all form data that has been saved by
the web browser with options to filter the data either by keyword,
active page, active field or cleanup criteria. It is furthermore
possible to sort the data by parameter including form field name, value,
date or popularity.

Each entry can be edited in the interface which is very helpful to
correct misspelled entries in the history saving the hassle of deleting
and entering the data anew. Individual or multiple entries can be
deleted right from within the interface.

The cleanup tab contains settings to automate the removal of form
history. It includes options to remove form history data that has not
been used for some time and those that have been used less than x times.

This extension also offers the possibility to export/import the form
history data as well as the cleanup configuration, allowing you to
exchange data between multiple Firefox configurations.
= end quote =

Phil


Why should there be an extension to do in 2 what was easily done 1.1.8?
 and if there were able to to come up with an extension to put back 
what's missing 2  that was in 1.1.8. Why was it deemed so complicated to 
put in naturally. seems some one was lazy.


I'LL try it, and if puts back lost functionality than I have deal with 
more extensions. The only extension I use now is quote colors and if the 
new extension breaks QC I will uninstall the new extension. And deal 
with reality of not being able to edit forms entries.


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Re: What happened to the form manager

2009-11-05 Thread Phillip Jones

Leonidas Jones wrote:

Philip Chee wrote:

On 05/11/2009 04:21, MikeyG wrote:

Phillip Jones wrote:



/snip/


Apparently the Form History Control extension has been SeaMonkey 2.0
compatible since SeaMonkey 2.0a3.

   Form History Control 1.1.3
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/seamonkey/addon/12021

Screenshot:
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/images/p/32482/1242826854


= quote =
An extension to View and Manage form history entries giving you full
control over what is stored.

If you ever had to clear your entire form history because you keyed in a
password in the wrong form field, or you just want to easily correct
misspelled entries, this is the extension for you.

This extension adds a submenu to the tools menu giving you access to a
powerful formhistory control center. This extension also adds a button
to the privacy tab of the Firefox options. The control is also
accessible from the right-click context-menu presenting even more
options for managing the formhistory entries.

Form History Control will display all form data that has been saved by
the web browser with options to filter the data either by keyword,
active page, active field or cleanup criteria. It is furthermore
possible to sort the data by parameter including form field name, value,
date or popularity.

Each entry can be edited in the interface which is very helpful to
correct misspelled entries in the history saving the hassle of deleting
and entering the data anew. Individual or multiple entries can be
deleted right from within the interface.

The cleanup tab contains settings to automate the removal of form
history. It includes options to remove form history data that has not
been used for some time and those that have been used less than x times.

This extension also offers the possibility to export/import the form
history data as well as the cleanup configuration, allowing you to
exchange data between multiple Firefox configurations.
= end quote =

Phil



Well, that should solve that!

Installed fine in 2.0, and it should meet everyone's needs.  Thanks so
much, Phil!

Lee


Actually No it doesn't exactly work.
On SeaMonkey 2 Mac OSX.4.11 when installed it  if you go from Mail to 
Browser there is a empty web page the controls are there. Clicking on 
Home bring up page. but once you close the Browser and reopen its back 
to empty page.
As far as what its supposed to do . It great. Now every time I switch to 
it I'll have to get use to a blank window and just type in the URL or 
hit home first.


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Re: What happened to the form manager

2009-11-05 Thread Phillip Jones

Phillip Jones wrote:

Leonidas Jones wrote:

Philip Chee wrote:

On 05/11/2009 04:21, MikeyG wrote:

Phillip Jones wrote:



/snip/


Apparently the Form History Control extension has been SeaMonkey 2.0
compatible since SeaMonkey 2.0a3.

Form History Control 1.1.3
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/seamonkey/addon/12021

Screenshot:
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/images/p/32482/1242826854


= quote =
An extension to View and Manage form history entries giving you full
control over what is stored.

If you ever had to clear your entire form history because you keyed in a
password in the wrong form field, or you just want to easily correct
misspelled entries, this is the extension for you.

This extension adds a submenu to the tools menu giving you access to a
powerful formhistory control center. This extension also adds a button
to the privacy tab of the Firefox options. The control is also
accessible from the right-click context-menu presenting even more
options for managing the formhistory entries.

Form History Control will display all form data that has been saved by
the web browser with options to filter the data either by keyword,
active page, active field or cleanup criteria. It is furthermore
possible to sort the data by parameter including form field name, value,
date or popularity.

Each entry can be edited in the interface which is very helpful to
correct misspelled entries in the history saving the hassle of deleting
and entering the data anew. Individual or multiple entries can be
deleted right from within the interface.

The cleanup tab contains settings to automate the removal of form
history. It includes options to remove form history data that has not
been used for some time and those that have been used less than x times.

This extension also offers the possibility to export/import the form
history data as well as the cleanup configuration, allowing you to
exchange data between multiple Firefox configurations.
= end quote =

Phil



Well, that should solve that!

Installed fine in 2.0, and it should meet everyone's needs.  Thanks so
much, Phil!

Lee


Actually No it doesn't exactly work.
On SeaMonkey 2 Mac OSX.4.11 when installed it  if you go from Mail to
Browser there is a empty web page the controls are there. Clicking on
Home bring up page. but once you close the Browser and reopen its back
to empty page.
As far as what its supposed to do . It great. Now every time I switch to
it I'll have to get use to a blank window and just type in the URL or
hit home first.



I fixed it. You have to go to Preferences  appearance and tick Browser 
and email. Then get out of Preferences. Then shut SM 2 down and restart. 
 Home page appears. Go back to appearance and un tick Browser.
Quit preference , quit SM2. Then restart. Finally hit Browser selection 
in window menu and Home page comes up thought not instantaneously.  It's 
workable now.


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Re: Can't get profile to Seamonkey2.0

2009-11-05 Thread William Morrison
Ok, finally got 2.0 properly installed and profile transferred. But 
here's what I had to do to get it there. I went into My Computer to the 
proper directory where the profiles are stored used copy and paste to 
transfer contents of the named profile, the one the program was actually 
using even though it did not show up in Profile Manager, to a temp 
directory then uninstalled 1.1.18 and deleted the Mozilla.org directory 
as well as the Mozilla directory in application data. Then I reinstalled 
1.1.18, after it installed I opened it to create a profile then I 
deleted the files in the new profile it created and copied over the 
files from the temp directory and it loaded in perfectly. Then I 
reinstalled 2.0 and this time the import wizard came up and I 
transferred over the profile. Everything seems to be working so far, 
keep your fingers crossed.


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Re: What happened to the form manager

2009-11-05 Thread Leonidas Jones

Phillip Jones wrote:

Leonidas Jones wrote:

Philip Chee wrote:

On 05/11/2009 04:21, MikeyG wrote:

Phillip Jones wrote:



/snip/


Apparently the Form History Control extension has been SeaMonkey 2.0
compatible since SeaMonkey 2.0a3.

Form History Control 1.1.3
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/seamonkey/addon/12021

Screenshot:
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/images/p/32482/1242826854


= quote =
An extension to View and Manage form history entries giving you full
control over what is stored.

If you ever had to clear your entire form history because you keyed in a
password in the wrong form field, or you just want to easily correct
misspelled entries, this is the extension for you.

This extension adds a submenu to the tools menu giving you access to a
powerful formhistory control center. This extension also adds a button
to the privacy tab of the Firefox options. The control is also
accessible from the right-click context-menu presenting even more
options for managing the formhistory entries.

Form History Control will display all form data that has been saved by
the web browser with options to filter the data either by keyword,
active page, active field or cleanup criteria. It is furthermore
possible to sort the data by parameter including form field name, value,
date or popularity.

Each entry can be edited in the interface which is very helpful to
correct misspelled entries in the history saving the hassle of deleting
and entering the data anew. Individual or multiple entries can be
deleted right from within the interface.

The cleanup tab contains settings to automate the removal of form
history. It includes options to remove form history data that has not
been used for some time and those that have been used less than x times.

This extension also offers the possibility to export/import the form
history data as well as the cleanup configuration, allowing you to
exchange data between multiple Firefox configurations.
= end quote =

Phil



Well, that should solve that!

Installed fine in 2.0, and it should meet everyone's needs. Thanks so
much, Phil!

Lee


Actually No it doesn't exactly work.
On SeaMonkey 2 Mac OSX.4.11 when installed it if you go from Mail to
Browser there is a empty web page the controls are there. Clicking on
Home bring up page. but once you close the Browser and reopen its back
to empty page.
As far as what its supposed to do . It great. Now every time I switch to
it I'll have to get use to a blank window and just type in the URL or
hit home first.



No idea what you are talking about here,  Did you install the right 
extension?


I installed it this afternoon on my macbook Pro, and just now on my 
iMac.  It works beautifully.


The entry for Form History appears in the Tools menu of the menu bar, 
but only from the browser window, Mail/News doesn't need a forms 
manager.  After installing, I opened the browser, then Mail/News.  I 
closed the browser window, then reopened.  The dialog that opens from 
ToolsForm History is still there and works beautifully.  Heck, I've 
only had a quick look, but it looks a lot better then what 1.1.18 had.


The way you describe it working is kind of bizarre.  Can you go step by 
step and tell us how you are trying to invoke the Form History Controls, 
and where it goes wrong.  I get nothing like a blank page, and nothing 
like a home button.


As an example,on my start page, there is a Map Quest directions form 
that I use a lot.  When I am on that page, I click ToolsForm 
HistoryForm History Control.  In the resulting dialog, I see all the 
fomr history saved in SeaMonkey.  I can click a rqdio button, and see 
just the form history for that page.  I quickly saw one typo, where I 
had typed West Cormwall, instead of West Cornwall, and I was able to 
remove the entry easily.


It also had all my search queries saved, making it very easy to remove 
duplicate searches, or again, those with typos.


Its a great extension, and adds more then the tool it replaces.  Lets 
get it working for you.


Lee
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Re: What happened to the form manager

2009-11-05 Thread Leonidas Jones

Phillip Jones wrote:

Philip Chee wrote:

On 05/11/2009 04:21, MikeyG wrote:

Phillip Jones wrote:



In the particular page that you have information typed got to view menu
Page info click on forms tab. Once its in there if you typed the
information wrong its there forever. On the old forms manager you could
actually go to each item and fix mistakes such as typing your address
wrong or your cell phone has changed.



Amen, again!!!


Apparently the Form History Control extension has been SeaMonkey 2.0
compatible since SeaMonkey 2.0a3.

Form History Control 1.1.3
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/seamonkey/addon/12021

Screenshot:
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/images/p/32482/1242826854


= quote =
An extension to View and Manage form history entries giving you full
control over what is stored.

If you ever had to clear your entire form history because you keyed in a
password in the wrong form field, or you just want to easily correct
misspelled entries, this is the extension for you.

This extension adds a submenu to the tools menu giving you access to a
powerful formhistory control center. This extension also adds a button
to the privacy tab of the Firefox options. The control is also
accessible from the right-click context-menu presenting even more
options for managing the formhistory entries.

Form History Control will display all form data that has been saved by
the web browser with options to filter the data either by keyword,
active page, active field or cleanup criteria. It is furthermore
possible to sort the data by parameter including form field name, value,
date or popularity.

Each entry can be edited in the interface which is very helpful to
correct misspelled entries in the history saving the hassle of deleting
and entering the data anew. Individual or multiple entries can be
deleted right from within the interface.

The cleanup tab contains settings to automate the removal of form
history. It includes options to remove form history data that has not
been used for some time and those that have been used less than x times.

This extension also offers the possibility to export/import the form
history data as well as the cleanup configuration, allowing you to
exchange data between multiple Firefox configurations.
= end quote =

Phil


Why should there be an extension to do in 2 what was easily done 1.1.8?
and if there were able to to come up with an extension to put back
what's missing 2 that was in 1.1.8. Why was it deemed so complicated to
put in naturally. seems some one was lazy.

I'LL try it, and if puts back lost functionality than I have deal with
more extensions. The only extension I use now is quote colors and if the
new extension breaks QC I will uninstall the new extension. And deal
with reality of not being able to edit forms entries.



I disagree with this Phillip.  One man's must have functionality is 
another man's useless bloat. You need a Form Manager, and this extension 
gives you an excellent one. For someone who does not need one, he gets a 
leaner product.


For me, the greatest problem with 1.x SeaMonkey was the lack of any 
systematic way of controlling extensions.  Jeremy Gillick helped with 
the Extension Manager extension, Phillip Chee helped even more with 
xSidebar, but even so, trying to manage extensions and themes was a 
mess. Now its easy.  Lets take advantage of this great power, we can now 
customize our Suite to suit our own usage.


Lee


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Re: Odd SM2 problems

2009-11-05 Thread Leonidas Jones

Mr. Cheese wrote:

Mr. Cheese wrote:

Leonidas Jones wrote:

Mr. Cheese wrote:

- the toolbar for changing font sizes, adding emoticons, etc does not
display when composing an email. I can't find a place to change this.

- when I look at some old emails which are replies to emails the quoted
email shows in some odd unreadable font.

Any help would be appreciated


Fir the first, you are probably set to compose in plain text. The
formatting toolbar only appears when you are composing in html.

EditMail  Newsgroup Account Settings(account in
question)Composition  Addressing

Check the box for Compose messages in HTML format.

Lee

That took care of problem #1. thx.


More detail on problem 2:
It occurs when docx documents are attached.


I can't help you with that.  I had one colleague who tried to post docx 
files, and got shot down by the majority who did not have the latest 
Word, so now he saves them in doc format.


Lee

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Re: SEAMONKEY 2.0 QUICK LAUNCH ICON SHORTCUT GONE

2009-11-05 Thread NoOp
On 11/05/2009 03:27 PM, James wrote:
 Could you please tell me what of the many features of the referenced 
 page addresses my question?
 
 Thanks,
 James

Perhaps if you (and others) would actually take the time to *read* the
words on the link I provided:
http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.0/
you'll manage to find this under the Known Issues section:

Turbo mode (quick launch), including the tray icon, has been removed
(Bug 361682)


When someone sends you a link regarding your issue/question, do you
actually *read* words on the page, or just 'glaze' through the items on
the page? Did you *read* the release notes prior to upgrading/installing
SeaMonkey 2.0, or did you just click away?
  Even if you were too lazy to bother reading everything, you could have
used the 'Edit|Find in this page' and entered 'quick launch' to find the
reference.

While we're here; you might want to: 1) bottom post, 2) keep your posts
in your original thread rather than starting a new one 
changing/reapplying the the Subject header:

 Date: Thu, 05 Nov 2009 18:27:56 -0500
 From: James res07...@gte.net
 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.0; en-US; rv:1.9.1.4)
   Gecko/20091017 SeaMonkey/2.0
 MIME-version: 1.0
 To: support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org
 Subject: SEAMONKEY 2.0 QUICK LAUNCH ICON SHORTCUT GONE
 References: mailman.607.1257361292.525.support-seamon...@lists.mozilla.org
 In-reply-to: mailman.607.1257361292.525.support-seamon...@lists.mozilla.org

Learn how to use the news.mozilla.org nntp server to read/respond on
this newsgroup instead of using a listsrerv instead. Let me know and
I'll be happy to help guide you through the process.
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Re: Was SeaMonkey 2.0 really ready for release?

2009-11-05 Thread Leonidas Jones

Ray_Net wrote:

Leonidas Jones wrote:
snip

Personally, I could not even imagine going back to SM 1.1.18. 2.0 is a
fine product, different to be sure, but almost universally better.


Personaly if the SM 2 Bug

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=525601

is not solved SM2 is *not* better.


I don't know, as you can see from the bug comments, it is not at all a 
universal problem.  Copy/Paste works absolutely fine on my 
installations, for example.


If it were a bug that is affecting everyone, it would probably be easy 
to track down.  But a bug that only affects some people, but works fine 
for most, this would be really hard to fix.


I stand by my comments.

Lee
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Re: the Right click to open in a New Tab problem

2009-11-05 Thread Philip Chee
On Fri, 06 Nov 2009 06:02:29 +0800, Anonymous S. wrote:

 SM2.0 default tabbed browsing behavior don't suit for me today. I can 
 not turn it smoothly with preferences or about:config, and lots of 
 things to make it more handy(e.g. more powerful session, tab behavior, 
 feed reader, download bar...).I do still wait for update: former 
 extension and SM2.

The Session Manager extension has been available for SeaMonkey for a while.
http://sessionmanager.mozdev.org/

SeaMonkey 2.0 has a built in feed reader (shared code with Thunderbird).
NewsFox works fine in SeaMonkey as well.

The next version of Download Statusbar extension will be compatible with
SeaMonkey according to the author.

Someone ported Tab Clicking Options to SeaMonkey:
http://prognathous.mail-central.com/mozilla/tabclickingoptions-0.6.9.xpi

Phil

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Guard us from the she-wolf and the wolf, and guard us from the thief,
oh Night, and so be good for us to pass.
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Re: Sites that have Security Questions

2009-11-05 Thread James
At one time I had a problem with the challenge questions; don't remember 
what it was now.  Not being nearly so computer savvy as most of you I 
wound up dealing with my CU in trying to solve it.  Eventually they 
suggested that I give the same answer for all the security questions 
[which would all be wrong except in one case at the most].  Somehow that 
worked.


James
.
.

Message: 2
Date: Wed, 04 Nov 2009 17:11:11 -0800
From: David E. Rossnob...@nowhere.invalid
To:support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org
Subject: Re: Stes that have Security Questions
Message-ID:eoydndw5syisu2_xnz2dnuvz_rgdn...@mozilla.org
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

On 11/4/2009 12:29 PM, John D Jacoby wrote:
   

  *Hi,
For example, my Credit Union has a security feature and asks me for
  the answer when I log on.  After doing this one time with Internet
  Explorer it no longer asks for an answer and all I need to do is enter
  the Account number and a password.  With SeaMonkey, it asks every time!
  Is there a setting that I need to make so that I no longer need to keep
  giving a Security Answer in SeaMonkey?
  Thanks for any help,
  John
  *
 

These are sometimes called challenge questions.  When you answer the
question correctly, the site sets a cookie in your profile.  The next
time you try to login, the site fetches the cookie and bypasses the
question if the cookie contains the correct information.  Sometimes, the
cookie will be for the domain of the outside service that created the
software used by the financial institutions.  Thus, you might not only
have to accept cookies normally (permanently and not merely for the
current session), but also you might have to enable all cookies and not
merely those for the originating Web site.

I have found that some sites restrict bypassing the challenge question
by sniffing for what browser you are using.  Only approved browsers
will bypass the question.  Of course (unfortunately), they sniff for
Firefox and not for Gecko.  Thus, with SeaMonkey, you will always be
asked a challenge question.  (Sniffing also means that the question will
be asked if you change browsers.)

I stopped trying to convince two banks, two credit unions, and a mutual
fund group that sniffing for Firefox is wrong.  Instead, I setup a
special profile for accessing financial institutions.  In this profile,
I always spoof for Firefox with the following UA string:
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.1.4)
   Gecko/20091017 SeaMonkey/2.0 NOT Firefox/3.5.3
I also have set this profile to accept all cookies normally.  I never
use this profile unless I intend to logon to one of my financial
accounts.  To get public information from any of the institutions'
sites, I use my normal profile.

A few sites assume everyone has broadband with a fixed IP address.  This
is a very bad assumption.  Approximately 10% of Internet users in the
U.S. still use dial-up with a new IP address each time they connect.  On
top of that, you might get a new IP address when you reboot your
broadband modem.  You might try viewing your cookies -- on the menu bar,
select [Tools  Cookie Manager  Manage Stored Cookies] -- and see if
you detect an IP address as the value of a cookie that has the domain of
your credit union's Web site.  If so, the credit union has a real
problem that needs to be fixed.

By the way, a number of studies have concluded that challenge questions
and also security images provide no security.  In place of the
questions, you need to have strong passwords that you don't write down
on a PostIt or save in an unencrypted file.  In place of images, you
need (1) to check that the padlock icon appears in the lower-right
corner of your SeaMonkey browser window and (2) never access your
account from a link in an E-mail or newsgroup message.

-- David E. Ross


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Re: Cannot send mail with SM 2

2009-11-05 Thread chicagofan

Cedar wrote:

Cedar wrote:

When I try to send mail I get the following message:

Sending of message failed.
An error occurred sending mail: Unable to authenticate to SMTP server
smtp.(etc). It does not support authentication (SMTP-AUTH) but
you have chosen to use authentication. Uncheck 'Use name and password'
for that server or contact your service provider.

Also, it has never asked me for a password. What happens if I uncheck
use name and password?


It should work... and your connection will go through.



and Use Secure Authentication is not checked.



When I had that problem with 2.ob1, these instructions cleared up my problem:



To be sure we're talking about the same settings, go to Edit - Mail
 Newsgroups Account Settings, Outgoing Server (SMTP) then select
your SMTP server, and click on the *Edit* button.

Under Security and Authentication, make sure Use name and password
is NOT checked. Under Use secure connection, select NO.



Hope this helps you...
bj

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Re: SM 2.0 personal toolbar strangeness...

2009-11-05 Thread Leonidas Jones

Andrew Paxton wrote:

Hi,
Apologies if this has already been discussed  I've missed it - just
joined this list and there is a lot of stuff..

Just upgraded to Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT
5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.1.4) Gecko/20091017 SeaMonkey/2.0 on both my home 
work PCs (winxp)

on my home machine, everything was fine; however, on my work pc, the
installation over-wrote my bookmarks (not a prob as I backed it up), and
my personal tool bar with the defaults.

Try as I might, I can't drag any links onto the personal toolbar on the
work PC - fine on the home one.

Any pointers?

Cheers,


PS tried the mozilla.support.seamonkey NG - can read, but can't post..

A News (NNTP) error occurred: Posting Failed (Article NOT Posted to a
Valid Newsgroup



Odd, you posted here with no problem.  Did you post with the mailing list?

The most likely problem with posting to the group is that you are 
looking at it on another newsserver.  Some newservers mirror the support 
groups, and will show the messages, but posting is spotty at best.


Are you subscribed via news.mozilla.org?  That is the best way to use 
this support forum.


If you are subscribed via news.mozilla.org, please post back so we can 
troubleshoot why you are not able to post.


As to the problems of your work machine as opposed to your home machine, 
I think we need more information.  What are the differences between the 
two profiles, as far as installed extensions, themes, plugins, or 
anything else which is different. Are the Windows version exactly the same?


Lee
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Re: TEXT PARTIALLY GRAY INSTEAD OF BLACK. WAS:

2009-11-05 Thread James


Date: Thu, 05 Nov 2009 16:37:42 -0500 From: Paul B. Gallagher 
pau...@pbgdashtranslations.com To: 
support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org Subject: Re: TEXT PARTIALLY GRAY 
INSTEAD OF BLACK. WAS: Message-ID: 
x5qdnf8exkax2g7xnz2dnuvz_vydn...@mozilla.org Content-Type: 
text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Daniel wrote:

  James, some people use signature blocks which contain their names,
  contact details, amusing quotes, whatever. These can be added,
  automatically, by telling SM where the sig file is.
  
  Then, at the end of the real message, SM adds a sig delimiter (a line

  consisting of two dashes followed by a space) and then adds, usually in
  a lighter text, the sig file.
 

Actually, the sig file is grayed out as a display feature, just as
quoted material is italicized or reddened (depending on your settings),
but if you look at the source code you'll see nothing -- no special
codes to make it do that. SM, like its predecessors, recognizes quote
marks and sig delimiters and uses that input to modify the display.

   

  If things are happening right, when that message is quoted the sig
  delimiter and the sig file are not quoted.
  
  But, if things don't happen right, the sig delimiter might not be

  removed, so anything after the sig delimiter is in the lighter text.
  
  Can be a real problem if people top post, i.e. reply at the top of the

  message.
 

Yep. Everything after their sig, including the entire original message,
is treated as their sig, which means a) it's grayed out, and b) it's
stripped out when the next person replies, a sort of automatic pruning.;-)

-- All it takes is a line of dash-dash-space for SM to decide this is 
the sig and everything from here on out is grayed and stripped from 
replies. See? My message now contains three sig delimiters, and 
everything after the first one is grayed out.
-- War doesn't determine who's right, just who's left. -- Paul B. 
Gallagher

.
.
Your message is marked exactly as you say it should be on my end.  As a 
matter of fact the entire digest follows it correctly.  Unless I'm 
remembering it wrong other digests have had random mixes of light and 
dark type.  I'll check out a few more and shout back if I don't 
understand it.


Thanks,
James

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Re: You really need to fix your posting, was Sites that have Security Questions

2009-11-05 Thread Leonidas Jones

James wrote:


James,

The way you are posting is making it almost impossible to give you any 
consistent help.  Every time you reply, it ends up in a different 
thread.  We just cannot keep track of what you are asking about.  We 
want to help, but this way, its very hard, and very frustrating to us.


I don't know why you are having this problem, but I do have a 
suggestion.  This is actually a newsgroup, set up on an NNTP server. it 
is mirrored to a mailing list, to which you are subscribed, but it works 
better on a news server.  The helpers here are almost universally 
subscribed to the news server.  The whole system is newsgroup based and 
works best that way.


I suggest that you go to EditMail  Newsgroup Account Settings and 
click on Add Account in the resulting dialog. Select Newsgroup Account. 
Type your name, and the email address you wish to use for off list 
replies.  If you prefer to set a dummy address, such as 
ja...@invalid.invalid, you can do that.


On the next screen, type news.mozilla.org in the field. On the next 
screen, verify the account name you wish to use.  news.mozilla.org will 
be fine.  The next screen verifies all your information, so review and 
create your account.


Close out of Account Settings, and select your new account in the Folder 
Pane. Click Manage Newsgroup Subscriptions. If the list is not 
populated, click Refresh to get the latest list of available groups. 
Subscribe to mozilla.support.seamonkey, and any others you would like to 
see.


Open the account, and ask to download the last 500 headers.  You should 
see all your support questions and responses. Any new posts you make 
should thread in an organized manner, which will help us give you the 
help you need.  Right now, everything you post is scattered all over the 
group, making it impossible to keep track.  If that continues, people 
are just going to stop answering you.


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Mail Inbox

2009-11-05 Thread gordoncr
Upgrade has failed to transfer a large mail inbox. Recovery?
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Re: FW: Error message encountered

2009-11-05 Thread Leonidas Jones

darryl_gonza...@dell.com wrote:



_
From: Gonzalez, Darryl
Sent: Thursday, November 05, 2009 6:48 PM
To: 'support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org'
Subject: Error message encountered


Hello, first time poster:

I am a Dell technical support representative.  I've got a customer who
is trying to use the SeaMonkey 2.0 suite and gets the following error
message: Please enter the master password for the software security
device.

I can find absolutely no information on this issue that applies to this
software.  Please let me know any information on this issue.

Darryl Gonzalez, A+, Network+, MCP
Dell | Commercial Client Premium Support
Tel: 1.866.876.3355 Ext. 4340729
darryl_gonza...@dell.com
Customer Experience: How am I doing? Please e-mail my manager Jaime Fure
mailto:jaime_f...@dell.com?subject=feedback%20for%20darryl%20gonzalez
with any feedback




Others will be able to give you more information.  I know only so much, 
since I don't use a Master Password.


The Master Password is a tool on Mozilla products, Firefox, Thunderbird 
and SeaMonkey, in order to protect the user's passwords from  being 
stolen by someone else with access to the computer. When this dialog is 
encountered, the user needs to enter the Master Password to access the data.


2.0 is a very new version, and has a number of differences that users of 
the previous version, 1.1.18, will find surprising.  One is the Master 
Password dialog.  The issue is described in the Release Notes for 2.0:


http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.0/

Under Known Issues, you will find the following workaround if the new 
behavior is not desired:


MailNews account password prompts are no longer serial at startup (Bug 
338549)
Workaround: If a Master Password is set and you saved your login 
credentials, only one prompt will appear at startup. You can disable 
this new behavior by setting signon.startup.prompt to false in 
about:config.


The about:config dialog is accessed by typing about:config into the 
location bar of the browser.  Click through the warranty warning, and 
type  signon.startup.prompt into the filter field. Right click on the 
pref, and select Toggle, to set it to False.  SM 2.0 should now behave 
as SM 1.1.18 did.


I would like to commend you for taking the time to access this newsgroup 
in behalf of your user.  Would that all support techs would walk the 
extra mile to do so.  Please come back with any further questions, of 
fell free to point your users to this group, so we can help them directly.


Lee

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Re: Was SeaMonkey 2.0 really ready for release?

2009-11-05 Thread Lance Courtland

Leonidas Jones wrote:

Lance Courtland wrote:

Ray_Net wrote:

Leonidas Jones wrote:
snip

Personally, I could not even imagine going back to SM 1.1.18. 2.0 is
a fine product, different to be sure, but almost universally better.


Personaly if the SM 2 Bug

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=525601

is not solved SM2 is *not* better.


The grass may seem greener on the other side of the fence, but if you
start to climb the fence and in the process cut yourself, tear your
clothes, scrape your knee and sprain your ankle, and then get stuck just
before reaching the top and have to painfully climb back down, the
crossing may not be worth it.

That's how I feel after trying to migrate 3 separate profiles in 3
separate user areas of Win XP.

Then to hear that you can't cut  paste within SM3 - all of a sudden
there are a lot of brown patches on that grass.

I'm really disappointed in SM's install implementation and Robert
Kaiser's attitude (Almost all of the problem are migration problems
only... as if they were insignificant.) I've never had as much trouble
upgrading a program as I've had going from SM 1.8 to 2.0. And I've been
a faithful user since Mosaic and Navigator.

I'm going to forgo all the supposed wonderful goodies on the other side
of that fence and wait until SM 2.0.1 makes it possible to get there
without a trip to the hospital or a degree in computer science.

Lance


First of all, see my response to Ray, the copy/paste problem is far from 
a universal one.  Most users find it works without issue. I have no 
problem with it at all, in either Mac OS or XP.


As far as ptofile migration, either you people have short memories, or, 
more likely, you are just not as old as me.


I remember clearly when Firefox 0.9 was released. FF stored its profile 
in a completely new location (actually similar to where SM is placing it 
now).  There was an Import Wizard that was to move the profile data to 
this new location. Same deal, for some people it worked, for some it 
didn't.


Those of us who were testing beta's knew it was coming.  For those who 
didn't, the uproar was incredible.  The number of people who swore that 
they would never move on, they would never upgrade, was, well, similar 
to what we see here, if not worse.


Well, of course they did, and now FF is the most popular of the 
alternative browsers.


I know, we are talking five years ago, and a product that had not 
reached 1.0 status. Still it is an analogous situation. FF 0.9 probably 
had more users then SM 1.1.x has now. Yet all their profiles had to be 
fairly recent, and still they had problems.


SM 1.x was an already old and creaky base of code.  It was released to 
save the program. It was to benefit the oldline users of Netscape and 
Mozilla Suite. Many of their profiles were converted from Communicator, 
and then used through any number of different programs and versions. 
They are going to have problems, and probably need to be rebuilt.


Maybe the reason that I had little problem with the conversion is that I 
tend to play fast and loose with my profiles, for testing purposes. I 
rebuild them periodically, just to keep them cleaned up.


Profile migration is unlikely to improve in future point releases, which 
will contain security related changes.  Waiting for 2.0.1 is unlikely to 
be the answer.  As I recall, didn't Robert post in this group that 2.1 
would probably not migrate profiles? Certainly no answer there.


So folks, you are left with two choices.  Either bite the bullet now, or 
stay with 1.1.18.  If you stay with 1.1.18, you are staying with a dead 
end, it won't be updated.  Sooner or later, you are either going to have 
to go the new SeaMonkey, or find other options entirely.  Either way you 
are going to have move your data somehow.


If you choose to stay with SeaMonkey 2.0, and migrate your data 
manually, once its done its done, and you are ready for the new world. 
If you need help doing so, help is available here.  If not, I hope you 
have the best of luck with wherever you choose to go.


Lee




Lee:

Bite the bullet and do what?  Nothing that has been suggested here for 
migrating profiles from different user areas has worked for me.


Lance
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was Can't get profile to Seamonkey2.0 now can't cut/copy--paste

2009-11-05 Thread William Morrison
Well it looks like I'm definitely going back to 1.1.18, I was just 
trying to write an email to someone and at first wanted to copy a web 
site address from 2.0 browser into the body of the letter and couldn't 
then after I manually typed it in I realized I should move it to earlier 
in the sentence and couldn't this really sucks, every time I would try 
to paste it would put in something I copied earlier from outside SeaMonkey.


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Re: was Can't get profile to Seamonkey2.0 now can't cut/copy--paste

2009-11-05 Thread Leonidas Jones

William Morrison wrote:

Well it looks like I'm definitely going back to 1.1.18, I was just
trying to write an email to someone and at first wanted to copy a web
site address from 2.0 browser into the body of the letter and couldn't
then after I manually typed it in I realized I should move it to earlier
in the sentence and couldn't this really sucks, every time I would try
to paste it would put in something I copied earlier from outside SeaMonkey.



This is a reported bug, but does not affect every user.  I was just 
happily copy/pasting in 2.0 with no issue at all.


Have you tried opening in Safe Mode, and see if it works there?  If not, 
have you tried creating a test profile to see if it works there?


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Re: Was SeaMonkey 2.0 really ready for release?

2009-11-05 Thread Leonidas Jones

Lance Courtland wrote:

Leonidas Jones wrote:

Lance Courtland wrote:

Ray_Net wrote:

Leonidas Jones wrote:
snip

Personally, I could not even imagine going back to SM 1.1.18. 2.0 is
a fine product, different to be sure, but almost universally better.


Personaly if the SM 2 Bug

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=525601

is not solved SM2 is *not* better.


The grass may seem greener on the other side of the fence, but if you
start to climb the fence and in the process cut yourself, tear your
clothes, scrape your knee and sprain your ankle, and then get stuck just
before reaching the top and have to painfully climb back down, the
crossing may not be worth it.

That's how I feel after trying to migrate 3 separate profiles in 3
separate user areas of Win XP.

Then to hear that you can't cut  paste within SM3 - all of a sudden
there are a lot of brown patches on that grass.

I'm really disappointed in SM's install implementation and Robert
Kaiser's attitude (Almost all of the problem are migration problems
only... as if they were insignificant.) I've never had as much trouble
upgrading a program as I've had going from SM 1.8 to 2.0. And I've been
a faithful user since Mosaic and Navigator.

I'm going to forgo all the supposed wonderful goodies on the other side
of that fence and wait until SM 2.0.1 makes it possible to get there
without a trip to the hospital or a degree in computer science.

Lance


First of all, see my response to Ray, the copy/paste problem is far
from a universal one. Most users find it works without issue. I have
no problem with it at all, in either Mac OS or XP.

As far as ptofile migration, either you people have short memories,
or, more likely, you are just not as old as me.

I remember clearly when Firefox 0.9 was released. FF stored its
profile in a completely new location (actually similar to where SM is
placing it now). There was an Import Wizard that was to move the
profile data to this new location. Same deal, for some people it
worked, for some it didn't.

Those of us who were testing beta's knew it was coming. For those who
didn't, the uproar was incredible. The number of people who swore that
they would never move on, they would never upgrade, was, well, similar
to what we see here, if not worse.

Well, of course they did, and now FF is the most popular of the
alternative browsers.

I know, we are talking five years ago, and a product that had not
reached 1.0 status. Still it is an analogous situation. FF 0.9
probably had more users then SM 1.1.x has now. Yet all their profiles
had to be fairly recent, and still they had problems.

SM 1.x was an already old and creaky base of code. It was released to
save the program. It was to benefit the oldline users of Netscape and
Mozilla Suite. Many of their profiles were converted from
Communicator, and then used through any number of different programs
and versions. They are going to have problems, and probably need to be
rebuilt.

Maybe the reason that I had little problem with the conversion is that
I tend to play fast and loose with my profiles, for testing purposes.
I rebuild them periodically, just to keep them cleaned up.

Profile migration is unlikely to improve in future point releases,
which will contain security related changes. Waiting for 2.0.1 is
unlikely to be the answer. As I recall, didn't Robert post in this
group that 2.1 would probably not migrate profiles? Certainly no
answer there.

So folks, you are left with two choices. Either bite the bullet now,
or stay with 1.1.18. If you stay with 1.1.18, you are staying with a
dead end, it won't be updated. Sooner or later, you are either going
to have to go the new SeaMonkey, or find other options entirely.
Either way you are going to have move your data somehow.

If you choose to stay with SeaMonkey 2.0, and migrate your data
manually, once its done its done, and you are ready for the new world.
If you need help doing so, help is available here. If not, I hope you
have the best of luck with wherever you choose to go.

Lee




Lee:

Bite the bullet and do what? Nothing that has been suggested here for
migrating profiles from different user areas has worked for me.

Lance


Have you tried manual migraton of the 1.1.18 profile data into a new 2.0 
profile?


You create a new, clean profile in 2.0, and migrate the data into the 
new profile.  Not all of it can be moved, but most of it can.  You can 
recreate the mail and news accounts, then migrate the data from the old 
profile.  Most users find with news accounts its just as easy to 
resubscribe to the groups, but is you need to migrate your data, it can 
be done.  Mail accounts involve moving the data from the mail folder in 
the old profile location to the new profile location.  It helps if you 
recreate the mail accounts in the exact order of the old profile.


With cookies, passwords, and form data, its probably just as easy to 
reenter the data as needed and rebuild it that way.


I'm not saqying this is 

Re: SEAMONKEY 2.0 QUICK LAUNCH ICON SHORTCUT GONE

2009-11-05 Thread James


Message: 7 Date: Thu, 05 Nov 2009 17:15:53 -0800 From: NoOp 
gl...@sbcglobal.net.invalid To: support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org 
Subject: Re: SEAMONKEY 2.0 QUICK LAUNCH ICON SHORTCUT GONE Message-ID: 
eogdnauox79x5w7xnz2dnuvz_gkdn...@mozilla.org Content-Type: 
text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On 11/05/2009 03:27 PM, James wrote:

  Could you please tell me what of the many features of the referenced
  page addresses my question?
  
  Thanks,

  James
 

Perhaps if you (and others) would actually take the time to*read*  the
words on the link I provided:
http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.0/
you'll manage to find this under the Known Issues section:

Turbo mode (quick launch), including the tray icon, has been removed
(Bug 361682)


When someone sends you a link regarding your issue/question, do you
actually*read*  words on the page, or just 'glaze' through the items on
the page? Did you*read*  the release notes prior to upgrading/installing
SeaMonkey 2.0, or did you just click away?
   Even if you were too lazy to bother reading everything, you could have
used the 'Edit|Find in this page' and entered 'quick launch' to find the
reference.

While we're here; you might want to: 1) bottom post, 2) keep your posts
in your original thread rather than starting a new one
changing/reapplying the the Subject header:

   

  Date: Thu, 05 Nov 2009 18:27:56 -0500
  From: Jamesres07...@gte.net
  User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.0; en-US; rv:1.9.1.4)
Gecko/20091017 SeaMonkey/2.0
  MIME-version: 1.0
  To:support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org
  Subject: SEAMONKEY 2.0 QUICK LAUNCH ICON SHORTCUT GONE
  References:mailman.607.1257361292.525.support-seamon...@lists.mozilla.org
  In-reply-to:mailman.607.1257361292.525.support-seamon...@lists.mozilla.org
 

Learn how to use the news.mozilla.org nntp server to read/respond on
this newsgroup instead of using a listsrerv instead. Let me know and
I'll be happy to help guide you through the process.

   

.
.
First of all you may have already seen my post where I stated that I  
had the wrong name for the item.  It's not actually quick launch; it's 
a bar at the bottom of the page just to the right of the start button.  
Sorry for the confusion.  Maybe it's called quick start bar???  
Anyway, I place shortcuts there to all of my frequently used programs 
and start those programs by clicking the short cut icon.  The icon for 
SM 2.0 disappeared after a few days and I wondered why.


 So when you sent the page I looked for something referring 
specifically to my problem and did not find one [because I named it 
wrong].  That's why I did not understand what part of the link was 
supposed to be relevant [I already knew the quick launch feature was 
gone].


Next:  How I reply.  I highlight the message to which I wish to reply 
and hit reply.  That copies the message into composer; however the 
subject refers to the digest rather than the specific message so I copy 
the subject into the subject line.  Is that causing a problem?


As for your last paragraph unfortunately I don't know what you're 
talking about.  Nntp server and listserv don't mean anything to me.


Thanks for the assistance,
James

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Re: was Can't get profile to Seamonkey2.0 now can't cut/copy--paste

2009-11-05 Thread Phillip Jones

Leonidas Jones wrote:

William Morrison wrote:

Well it looks like I'm definitely going back to 1.1.18, I was just
trying to write an email to someone and at first wanted to copy a web
site address from 2.0 browser into the body of the letter and couldn't
then after I manually typed it in I realized I should move it to earlier
in the sentence and couldn't this really sucks, every time I would try
to paste it would put in something I copied earlier from outside SeaMonkey.



This is a reported bug, but does not affect every user.  I was just
happily copy/pasting in 2.0 with no issue at all.

Have you tried opening in Safe Mode, and see if it works there?  If not,
have you tried creating a test profile to see if it works there?

Lee

For me the following are unavailable: Command-C, Command-V, Command-X 
(PC I believe is equiv to Alt-C, Alt-V, Alt-X). However; I can if I work 
fast enough is select item; hold down option Key and Drag and Drop. Or 
Drag select and hit delete.


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Re: Was SeaMonkey 2.0 really ready for release?

2009-11-05 Thread Phillip Jones

Leonidas Jones wrote:

Lance Courtland wrote:

Ray_Net wrote:

Leonidas Jones wrote:
snip

Personally, I could not even imagine going back to SM 1.1.18. 2.0 is
a fine product, different to be sure, but almost universally better.


Personaly if the SM 2 Bug

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=525601

is not solved SM2 is *not* better.


The grass may seem greener on the other side of the fence, but if you
start to climb the fence and in the process cut yourself, tear your
clothes, scrape your knee and sprain your ankle, and then get stuck just
before reaching the top and have to painfully climb back down, the
crossing may not be worth it.

That's how I feel after trying to migrate 3 separate profiles in 3
separate user areas of Win XP.

Then to hear that you can't cut  paste within SM3 - all of a sudden
there are a lot of brown patches on that grass.

I'm really disappointed in SM's install implementation and Robert
Kaiser's attitude (Almost all of the problem are migration problems
only... as if they were insignificant.) I've never had as much trouble
upgrading a program as I've had going from SM 1.8 to 2.0. And I've been
a faithful user since Mosaic and Navigator.

I'm going to forgo all the supposed wonderful goodies on the other side
of that fence and wait until SM 2.0.1 makes it possible to get there
without a trip to the hospital or a degree in computer science.

Lance


First of all, see my response to Ray, the copy/paste problem is far from
a universal one.  Most users find it works without issue. I have no
problem with it at all, in either Mac OS or XP.

As far as ptofile migration, either you people have short memories, or,
more likely, you are just not as old as me.

I remember clearly when Firefox 0.9 was released. FF stored its profile
in a completely new location (actually similar to where SM is placing it
now).  There was an Import Wizard that was to move the profile data to
this new location. Same deal, for some people it worked, for some it didn't.

Those of us who were testing beta's knew it was coming.  For those who
didn't, the uproar was incredible.  The number of people who swore that
they would never move on, they would never upgrade, was, well, similar
to what we see here, if not worse.

Well, of course they did, and now FF is the most popular of the
alternative browsers.

I know, we are talking five years ago, and a product that had not
reached 1.0 status. Still it is an analogous situation. FF 0.9 probably
had more users then SM 1.1.x has now. Yet all their profiles had to be
fairly recent, and still they had problems.

SM 1.x was an already old and creaky base of code.  It was released to
save the program. It was to benefit the oldline users of Netscape and
Mozilla Suite. Many of their profiles were converted from Communicator,
and then used through any number of different programs and versions.
They are going to have problems, and probably need to be rebuilt.

Maybe the reason that I had little problem with the conversion is that I
tend to play fast and loose with my profiles, for testing purposes. I
rebuild them periodically, just to keep them cleaned up.

Profile migration is unlikely to improve in future point releases, which
will contain security related changes.  Waiting for 2.0.1 is unlikely to
be the answer.  As I recall, didn't Robert post in this group that 2.1
would probably not migrate profiles? Certainly no answer there.


I believe the comment was made that It would not be migrate Profile 
previous to 2.0. 2.0 and up. but not below 2.0.




So folks, you are left with two choices.  Either bite the bullet now, or
stay with 1.1.18.  If you stay with 1.1.18, you are staying with a dead
end, it won't be updated.  Sooner or later, you are either going to have
to go the new SeaMonkey, or find other options entirely.  Either way you
are going to have move your data somehow.

If you choose to stay with SeaMonkey 2.0, and migrate your data
manually, once its done its done, and you are ready for the new world.
If you need help doing so, help is available here.  If not, I hope you
have the best of luck with wherever you choose to go.

Lee





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Re: What happened to the form manager

2009-11-05 Thread Phillip Jones

Leonidas Jones wrote:

Phillip Jones wrote:

Leonidas Jones wrote:

Philip Chee wrote:

On 05/11/2009 04:21, MikeyG wrote:

Phillip Jones wrote:



/snip/


Apparently the Form History Control extension has been SeaMonkey 2.0
compatible since SeaMonkey 2.0a3.

Form History Control 1.1.3
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/seamonkey/addon/12021

Screenshot:
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/images/p/32482/1242826854


= quote =
An extension to View and Manage form history entries giving you full
control over what is stored.

If you ever had to clear your entire form history because you keyed in a
password in the wrong form field, or you just want to easily correct
misspelled entries, this is the extension for you.

This extension adds a submenu to the tools menu giving you access to a
powerful formhistory control center. This extension also adds a button
to the privacy tab of the Firefox options. The control is also
accessible from the right-click context-menu presenting even more
options for managing the formhistory entries.

Form History Control will display all form data that has been saved by
the web browser with options to filter the data either by keyword,
active page, active field or cleanup criteria. It is furthermore
possible to sort the data by parameter including form field name, value,
date or popularity.

Each entry can be edited in the interface which is very helpful to
correct misspelled entries in the history saving the hassle of deleting
and entering the data anew. Individual or multiple entries can be
deleted right from within the interface.

The cleanup tab contains settings to automate the removal of form
history. It includes options to remove form history data that has not
been used for some time and those that have been used less than x times.

This extension also offers the possibility to export/import the form
history data as well as the cleanup configuration, allowing you to
exchange data between multiple Firefox configurations.
= end quote =

Phil



Well, that should solve that!

Installed fine in 2.0, and it should meet everyone's needs. Thanks so
much, Phil!

Lee


Actually No it doesn't exactly work.
On SeaMonkey 2 Mac OSX.4.11 when installed it if you go from Mail to
Browser there is a empty web page the controls are there. Clicking on
Home bring up page. but once you close the Browser and reopen its back
to empty page.
As far as what its supposed to do . It great. Now every time I switch to
it I'll have to get use to a blank window and just type in the URL or
hit home first.



No idea what you are talking about here,  Did you install the right
extension?


Yes Forms History extension the version for SM2


I installed it this afternoon on my macbook Pro, and just now on my
iMac.  It works beautifully.


I does work as it should now. But when first install when you switch to 
Browser. all the Ribbon  or menubar controls were there; but the window 
of the web page was totally empty


The entry for Form History appears in the Tools menu of the menu bar,
but only from the browser window, Mail/News doesn't need a forms
manager.  After installing, I opened the browser, then Mail/News.  I
closed the browser window, then reopened.  The dialog that opens from
ToolsForm History is still there and works beautifully.  Heck, I've
only had a quick look, but it looks a lot better then what 1.1.18 had.


 Forms History item is on the tool menu  but when first installed. the 
web page  window was totally Blank.

The way you describe it working is kind of bizarre.  Can you go step by
step and tell us how you are trying to invoke the Form History Controls,
and where it goes wrong.  I get nothing like a blank page, and nothing
like a home button.


The problem I explained happened after the install. I go get the 
extension. I let it install. I had it restart SM to finish install. I 
then went to Browser (I usually have browser turn off when I first boot 
up , I have it open into the Mail  news groups. If I need the browser I 
go to window menu, and choose Browser my ISP Home page shows up.)


Any way after the install the menubar (back, Forward, Stop; etc.) was 
there but the window that shows the actual web page was totally empty.


As an example,on my start page, there is a Map Quest directions form
that I use a lot.  When I am on that page, I click ToolsForm
HistoryForm History Control.  In the resulting dialog, I see all the
fomr history saved in SeaMonkey.  I can click a radio button, and see
just the form history for that page.  I quickly saw one typo, where I
had typed West Cormwall, instead of West Cornwall, and I was able to
remove the entry easily.

It also had all my search queries saved, making it very easy to remove
duplicate searches, or again, those with typos.

Its a great extension, and adds more then the tool it replaces.  Lets
get it working for you.



It does work as it should once I got the bug stopped.

Lee



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Re: What happened to the form manager

2009-11-05 Thread Leonidas Jones

Phillip Jones wrote:

Leonidas Jones wrote:

Phillip Jones wrote:

Leonidas Jones wrote:

Philip Chee wrote:

On 05/11/2009 04:21, MikeyG wrote:

Phillip Jones wrote:



/snip/


Apparently the Form History Control extension has been SeaMonkey 2.0
compatible since SeaMonkey 2.0a3.

Form History Control 1.1.3
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/seamonkey/addon/12021

Screenshot:
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/images/p/32482/1242826854


= quote =
An extension to View and Manage form history entries giving you full
control over what is stored.

If you ever had to clear your entire form history because you keyed
in a
password in the wrong form field, or you just want to easily correct
misspelled entries, this is the extension for you.

This extension adds a submenu to the tools menu giving you access to a
powerful formhistory control center. This extension also adds a button
to the privacy tab of the Firefox options. The control is also
accessible from the right-click context-menu presenting even more
options for managing the formhistory entries.

Form History Control will display all form data that has been saved by
the web browser with options to filter the data either by keyword,
active page, active field or cleanup criteria. It is furthermore
possible to sort the data by parameter including form field name,
value,
date or popularity.

Each entry can be edited in the interface which is very helpful to
correct misspelled entries in the history saving the hassle of
deleting
and entering the data anew. Individual or multiple entries can be
deleted right from within the interface.

The cleanup tab contains settings to automate the removal of form
history. It includes options to remove form history data that has not
been used for some time and those that have been used less than x
times.

This extension also offers the possibility to export/import the form
history data as well as the cleanup configuration, allowing you to
exchange data between multiple Firefox configurations.
= end quote =

Phil



Well, that should solve that!

Installed fine in 2.0, and it should meet everyone's needs. Thanks so
much, Phil!

Lee


Actually No it doesn't exactly work.
On SeaMonkey 2 Mac OSX.4.11 when installed it if you go from Mail to
Browser there is a empty web page the controls are there. Clicking on
Home bring up page. but once you close the Browser and reopen its back
to empty page.
As far as what its supposed to do . It great. Now every time I switch to
it I'll have to get use to a blank window and just type in the URL or
hit home first.



No idea what you are talking about here, Did you install the right
extension?


Yes Forms History extension the version for SM2


I installed it this afternoon on my macbook Pro, and just now on my
iMac. It works beautifully.


I does work as it should now. But when first install when you switch to
Browser. all the Ribbon or menubar controls were there; but the window
of the web page was totally empty


The entry for Form History appears in the Tools menu of the menu bar,
but only from the browser window, Mail/News doesn't need a forms
manager. After installing, I opened the browser, then Mail/News. I
closed the browser window, then reopened. The dialog that opens from
ToolsForm History is still there and works beautifully. Heck, I've
only had a quick look, but it looks a lot better then what 1.1.18 had.


Forms History item is on the tool menu but when first installed. the web
page window was totally Blank.

The way you describe it working is kind of bizarre. Can you go step by
step and tell us how you are trying to invoke the Form History Controls,
and where it goes wrong. I get nothing like a blank page, and nothing
like a home button.


The problem I explained happened after the install. I go get the
extension. I let it install. I had it restart SM to finish install. I
then went to Browser (I usually have browser turn off when I first boot
up , I have it open into the Mail  news groups. If I need the browser I
go to window menu, and choose Browser my ISP Home page shows up.)

Any way after the install the menubar (back, Forward, Stop; etc.) was
there but the window that shows the actual web page was totally empty.


As an example,on my start page, there is a Map Quest directions form
that I use a lot. When I am on that page, I click ToolsForm
HistoryForm History Control. In the resulting dialog, I see all the
fomr history saved in SeaMonkey. I can click a radio button, and see
just the form history for that page. I quickly saw one typo, where I
had typed West Cormwall, instead of West Cornwall, and I was able to
remove the entry easily.

It also had all my search queries saved, making it very easy to remove
duplicate searches, or again, those with typos.

Its a great extension, and adds more then the tool it replaces. Lets
get it working for you.



It does work as it should once I got the bug stopped.

Lee





What web page are you talking about?  

Re: What happened to the form manager

2009-11-05 Thread Leonidas Jones

Leonidas Jones wrote:

Phillip Jones wrote:

Leonidas Jones wrote:

Phillip Jones wrote:

Leonidas Jones wrote:

Philip Chee wrote:

On 05/11/2009 04:21, MikeyG wrote:

Phillip Jones wrote:



/snip/


Apparently the Form History Control extension has been SeaMonkey 2.0
compatible since SeaMonkey 2.0a3.

Form History Control 1.1.3
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/seamonkey/addon/12021

Screenshot:
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/images/p/32482/1242826854


= quote =
An extension to View and Manage form history entries giving you full
control over what is stored.

If you ever had to clear your entire form history because you keyed
in a
password in the wrong form field, or you just want to easily correct
misspelled entries, this is the extension for you.

This extension adds a submenu to the tools menu giving you access
to a
powerful formhistory control center. This extension also adds a
button
to the privacy tab of the Firefox options. The control is also
accessible from the right-click context-menu presenting even more
options for managing the formhistory entries.

Form History Control will display all form data that has been
saved by
the web browser with options to filter the data either by keyword,
active page, active field or cleanup criteria. It is furthermore
possible to sort the data by parameter including form field name,
value,
date or popularity.

Each entry can be edited in the interface which is very helpful to
correct misspelled entries in the history saving the hassle of
deleting
and entering the data anew. Individual or multiple entries can be
deleted right from within the interface.

The cleanup tab contains settings to automate the removal of form
history. It includes options to remove form history data that has not
been used for some time and those that have been used less than x
times.

This extension also offers the possibility to export/import the form
history data as well as the cleanup configuration, allowing you to
exchange data between multiple Firefox configurations.
= end quote =

Phil



Well, that should solve that!

Installed fine in 2.0, and it should meet everyone's needs. Thanks so
much, Phil!

Lee


Actually No it doesn't exactly work.
On SeaMonkey 2 Mac OSX.4.11 when installed it if you go from Mail to
Browser there is a empty web page the controls are there. Clicking on
Home bring up page. but once you close the Browser and reopen its back
to empty page.
As far as what its supposed to do . It great. Now every time I
switch to
it I'll have to get use to a blank window and just type in the URL or
hit home first.



No idea what you are talking about here, Did you install the right
extension?


Yes Forms History extension the version for SM2


I installed it this afternoon on my macbook Pro, and just now on my
iMac. It works beautifully.


I does work as it should now. But when first install when you switch to
Browser. all the Ribbon or menubar controls were there; but the window
of the web page was totally empty


The entry for Form History appears in the Tools menu of the menu bar,
but only from the browser window, Mail/News doesn't need a forms
manager. After installing, I opened the browser, then Mail/News. I
closed the browser window, then reopened. The dialog that opens from
ToolsForm History is still there and works beautifully. Heck, I've
only had a quick look, but it looks a lot better then what 1.1.18 had.


Forms History item is on the tool menu but when first installed. the web
page window was totally Blank.

The way you describe it working is kind of bizarre. Can you go step by
step and tell us how you are trying to invoke the Form History Controls,
and where it goes wrong. I get nothing like a blank page, and nothing
like a home button.


The problem I explained happened after the install. I go get the
extension. I let it install. I had it restart SM to finish install. I
then went to Browser (I usually have browser turn off when I first boot
up , I have it open into the Mail  news groups. If I need the browser I
go to window menu, and choose Browser my ISP Home page shows up.)

Any way after the install the menubar (back, Forward, Stop; etc.) was
there but the window that shows the actual web page was totally empty.


As an example,on my start page, there is a Map Quest directions form
that I use a lot. When I am on that page, I click ToolsForm
HistoryForm History Control. In the resulting dialog, I see all the
fomr history saved in SeaMonkey. I can click a radio button, and see
just the form history for that page. I quickly saw one typo, where I
had typed West Cormwall, instead of West Cornwall, and I was able to
remove the entry easily.

It also had all my search queries saved, making it very easy to remove
duplicate searches, or again, those with typos.

Its a great extension, and adds more then the tool it replaces. Lets
get it working for you.



It does work as it should once I got the bug stopped.

Lee





What web page are 

Re: SEAMONKEY 2.0 QUICK LAUNCH ICON SHORTCUT GONE

2009-11-05 Thread James





In-reply-to:mailman.607.1257361292.525.support-seamon...@lists.mozilla.org


Learn how to use the news.mozilla.org nntp server to read/respond on
this newsgroup instead of using a listsrerv instead. Let me know and
I'll be happy to help guide you through the process.


.
.
First of all you may have already seen my post where I stated that I had
the wrong name for the item. It's not actually quick launch; it's a
bar at the bottom of the page just to the right of the start button.
Sorry for the confusion. Maybe it's called quick start bar??? Anyway,
I place shortcuts there to all of my frequently used programs and start
those programs by clicking the short cut icon. The icon for SM 2.0
disappeared after a few days and I wondered why.

So when you sent the page I looked for something referring specifically
to my problem and did not find one [because I named it wrong]. That's
why I did not understand what part of the link was supposed to be
relevant [I already knew the quick launch feature was gone].

Next: How I reply. I highlight the message to which I wish to reply and
hit reply. That copies the message into composer; however the subject
refers to the digest rather than the specific message so I copy the
subject into the subject line. Is that causing a problem?

As for your last paragraph unfortunately I don't know what you're
talking about. Nntp server and listserv don't mean anything to me.

Thanks for the assistance,
James


.
.
Lee sent me a post explaining much of the procedure to use another 
method to reply and I'm trying that.  However, right now I'm getting 
pop-up boxes with messages that Seamonkey cannot copy the message to 
sent [even before I send it] and in addition that it cannot save the 
message to drafts.  This happens every few seconds.


If this is a better way to reply can you tell me how to get rid of the 
pop-up error messages?  I also get a message that my post could not be 
copied to the sent folder after I do actually send it.


Thanks,
James

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Re: was Can't get profile to Seamonkey2.0 now can't cut/copy--paste

2009-11-05 Thread Leonidas Jones

William Morrison wrote:



Leonidas Jones wrote:

William Morrison wrote:

/snip/

Leonidas Jones wrote:

William Morrison wrote:

Well it looks like I'm definitely going back to 1.1.18, I was just
trying to write an email to someone and at first wanted to copy a web
site address from 2.0 browser into the body of the letter and couldn't
then after I manually typed it in I realized I should move it to
earlier
in the sentence and couldn't this really sucks, every time I would try
to paste it would put in something I copied earlier from outside
SeaMonkey.



This is a reported bug, but does not affect every user. I was just
happily copy/pasting in 2.0 with no issue at all.

Have you tried opening in Safe Mode, and see if it works there? If
not, have you tried creating a test profile to see if it works there?

Lee





Well, you misunderstand me. Safe Mode does not always reproduce the
effect of a clean profile. I am not suggesting that you set up a new
profile for permanent use at this point. I am only suggesting that you
set up a new profile as a test. You don't need to set up mail/news at
all. Just a new profile and do a quick copy paste in the browser to
see if that works. That will tell us whether or not the problem is
profile related or if it is the program on your system. Since it is
working fine for me on both Mac OS X and Win XP, I don't know where to
begin looking for the problem on your setup.

If you choose not to do the troubleshooting step, well I guess I can't
help you, much though I would like to. Good luck with it anyhow.

Lee

/snip/

Ok I guess I did misunderstand you and will try the new profile test
shortly but thought I would ask this first. I went to about :config and
did a search for copy I find that a setting for it reads like this
clipboard.autocopy default boolean false is this correct for this
setting? I haven't changed anything yet but thought I'd ask about it to
see if this could be my problem.




Good thought, but mine is set to false as well, and copy/paste works as 
it always has for me.  That's probably not the culprit.


Try the test profile and see. If it does work, we can troubleshoot 
through your existing profile.  If not, I'm not sure where we go, but 
there are a lot of hands here.


Lee
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Re: Transfer folders included messages?

2009-11-05 Thread OldTimer

OldTimer wrote:

Martin Feitag wrote:

OldTimer schrieb:

Martin Feitag wrote:

Edward S. Kostyk schrieb:

I am running Seamonkey 1.1.17 on Win XP Home SP 2. I have set up a new
mail account (for my personal mail). I would like to transfer some
folders (with their messages ) from the original account to the new
account, but I haven't a clue as to how to do this. Can someone get me
going in the right direction.

To locate your profile, the Profile FAQ:
http://seamonkey.ilias.ca/profilefaq/

Information about the folders and files within the Profile folder:
http://kb.mozillazine.org/Profile_folder_-_SeaMonkey
especially:
http://seamonkey.ilias.ca/profilefaq/#transferring_mail

regards

Martin

Martin, you sent me on quite a learning journey with your references. As
they say on Star Trek, [I've] gone where [I've] never gone before
Unfortunately, this has now raised a number of questions that I didn't
have before (probably a good thing). I hope you or others can stay with
me to bring this to a conclusion.

1) What's the difference between a Profile and an Account? I have added
2 new accounts (Work  Personal) as I've now moved to a new ISP with
wireless. I added these using Edit  Mail  Newsgroup Account Settings.
I didn't do anything regarding profiles. Is there more for me to do?


A Profile is the entire thing which stores all settings/preferences
which you might set by the GUI (concerning Browser and News/Emails etc).
It also contains all Email- and Newsgroupaccounts.
Every profile may contain as many Email- and Newsgroupaccounts as the
user wishes to.
You can backup and restore your profile entirely to any Seamonkey 1.1.x
installation at any time (at least while SM is closed ;-) ).



2) I have located 2 profile folders : Profile\default\f68gg1hi.slt and
Profile\SeaMonkey\snxbxfle.slt
the first one has 6 folders: Pop1.sympatico.ca, Pop1.sympatico-1.ca,
kingston.net, kingston-1.net, kingston-2.net and Local Folders.

I found that Pop1.sympatico.ca refers to my original account and
Pop1.sympatico-1.ca refers to my Work account and kingston-2.net
refers to my Personal account.
I don't know what the remaining 3 folders are for (kingston.net,
kingston-1.net, Local Folders). I am particularly confused why one of
the new accounts (Work) is named with Sympatico (my original account
name), when there is no reference to Sympatico in the Account Settings.
Have I done something wrong even though the accounts seem to be working
O.K.?


Those you don't know about are probably just leftovers from accounts
which...um...I don't know what happened to them ;-) (except Local
Folders of course).
Feel free to test that by removing one folder after another from that
profile-directory and starting Seamonkey each time you have removed one.
As long as everything is at it's place you're just removing trash and so
you can delete that stuff which you have successfully take out and you
therefore probably don't need.



3) As I want to transfer only specific folders and their sub-folders to
the 2 new accounts, do I just Select  Cut the folders  files (not
.msf) in Pop1.sympatico.ca and Paste them to either Pop1.sympatico-1.ca
and kingston-2.net?


Yes you can cut and paste the folders (each folder is represented by a
file, the one without .msf as you already found out :-) ) to another
account. It doesn't matter if this account lies in the same profile or
not. (I guess in your case all accounts are in one profile)
Easiest way would be to replace the existing inbox etc. in the new
account with your old one.
Note: If you already have mails in your new account which are not in
your old account and therefore should not be lost, you can't replace
them but will need to rename inbox etc. from your old account to
InboxOld or something like that and paste it to the new account with
that new name. Seamonkey will then automatically show those additional
Folders in your new account besides the standard folders on the next
start.

I hope I could help and clarify some things.
kind regards

Martin



Thanks Martin, this should keep me busy over the next few days. I'll
report back how things went.

Ed


Sorry, but I was called away and just returned.  I've run into a 
problem.  Please let me know if I need to open a new thread or can I 
continue with this.


Thanks,

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Re: Signature not on forwarded mail

2009-11-05 Thread Leonidas Jones

William Morrison wrote:

Here's something I just noticed, when I compose new mail or reply to
some my signature gets added to the end of the mail like it should but
if I try to forward something the signature doesn't get added. Why?



I don't really know, but you are correct, the sig is not attached in 
either forward mode, as attachment or inline.


You could take a look through Bugzilla to see if there is an outstanding 
bug on this.


Lee
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Re: Can't add more mail/news accounts in SM 2.0

2009-11-05 Thread Rex

Hartmut Figge wrote:

Rex:


Can someone help here? I can't configure any more accounts and it's
really frustrating :(


Did you searche the prefs.js for user_pref(mail.server.server8.valid,
false);? The number behind server will probably be different.

Hartmut


Thanks, that worked. Shouldn't this be reported as a bug?

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 temperature, volume, humidity, and other variables, the
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Re: Can't add more mail/news accounts in SM 2.0

2009-11-05 Thread Hartmut Figge
Rex:
Hartmut Figge wrote:

 Did you searche the prefs.js for user_pref(mail.server.server8.valid,
 false);? The number behind server will probably be different.

Thanks, that worked. Shouldn't this be reported as a bug?

In the thread i mentioned is a comment from Jens who filed this bug.
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=521861

Hartmut
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Re: SeaMonkey seems not to post to NNTP using auth

2009-11-05 Thread user

chicagofan wrote:

u...@domain.invalid wrote:

chicagofan wrote:


Did you see Gabrielle's message which said, her problems went away after
she deleted her existing news account, and set it up again? Have you
tried
that?


I have the same problem with my upgrade using news.ett.com.ua - and
this is
a test on news.mozilla.org so if you can read this, then using a new news
server does not cause problems which are there for an old news server
(pre-upgrade).



Reading you just fine. :) I'm not following what you are saying about
causing problems, but I understood Gabrielle to have solved her
problems by
re-creating the accounts and newsgroups she needed, with 2.0... after
the migration.


Yes, my post was not a model of clear communication.


If you're saying mozilla.org worked on your previous version, and also
works in
2.0, but ett.com does not, I get it. :) I'm just guessing, but it seems
like
the varying methods ISPs or news servers use for log in are throwing SM
a curve.


I did not have mozilla.org set up in the 1.x version. But I added it in 2.0 and 
it works fine.


I did have ett.com set up in the 1.x version, and obviously it worked, but I 
cannot post in SM 2.0. As I am more of a reader than a poster it's not really a 
big deal for me.


I am using a relay for SMTP and I have a password and Use secure 
authentication checked. But that is between me and my ISP isn't it.


I wish I had the answer, but other than verifying that server settings are
correct for each server used, and checking the SMTP settings, I'm at a
loss.
Have you checked with ett. com for some suggestions?

I'm worried about what may happen to me this month, when my ISP makes some
changes to my sign on [for security purposes they say]. We are going to
have to
add our zip code to the sign in. That should be interesting. :(
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