Re: emails / server settings
rjkrjk wrote: win xp sp3 / android 2.3.5 have just started using an android tablet (samsung) there are hundreds of emails on my samsung android, which have long been deleted on the desktop after some reading and research, I assumed it was a matter of syncing the tablet with the desktop. ( as an aside, don't know why mozilla refers back to firefox with instructions for SM). sync was done on both sides, at least that's the message I got but after the sync.. all the messages were still there, tried to some other things but nothing worked. I then checked my ISP Inbox (directly) and the same hundreds of messages were there as well. I deleted them all, and subsequently all the emails on the tablet also disappeared I remembered something about server settings and messages, so I proceeded to SERVER SETTINGS and unchecked LEAVE MESSAGES ON SERVER box will UNchecking this box hopefully resolve my situation where my tablet is retaining all my emails ?? In olden days, when it was just computers downloading e-mails from an ISP, it was advised that if more than one computer was downloading from the same account, then one computer should be set-up to download remove the e-mails from the ISP's server. Any other computers (laptops, etc) should be set up to download but leave the emails on the ISP's server. In SeaMonkey on a computer, that would be Edit-Mail Newsgroup Account Settings, select Server Settings for your e-mail account and, in roughly the middle of the screen, under Server Settings tick Leave messages on server. Don't know if tablet versions of SM have a similar setting!! HTH! -- Daniel ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: emails / server settings
Daniel wrote: In olden days, when it was just computers downloading e-mails from an ISP, it was advised that if more than one computer was downloading from the same account, then one computer should be set-up to download remove the e-mails from the ISP's server. Any other computers (laptops, etc) should be set up to download but leave the emails on the ISP's server. How would that help if the first computer to access the server were the one configured to download and delete ? Surely any configuration in which two or more machines might even /possibly/ want to access the same data must require that all leave it on the server. Philip Taylor ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Default Printer for SeaMonkey
Where is the default printer defined? I Find the printers in about:config, but cannot find any place where any is defined as 'default'. I have a number of printers (or pseudo printers) available on this system. My Windows 7 default printer is FinePrint. But SeaMonkey always comes up with PaperPort Image Printer which is a software pseudo printer. I would like SeaMonkey to use the system 'default' printer. -- Ed ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Compact Folder Constant Reminder
Paul B. Gallagher wrote: Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote: Jens Hatlak wrote: Daniel wrote: Rufus, I hope you remember that emptying trash *doesn't* actually delete the e-mails from your inbox, it just marks them for deletion and removes them from your sight. They are not actually deleted until you compact your files!! Wrong (just checked). Please don't give such false advice, especially if it results in data loss without any undo possibility. The Empty Trash command actually includes a Compact Folder call. Daniel said emptying Trash doesn't delete the email from the Inbox. I believe his statement to be true. The only way to remove an email from Inbox that was moved to Trash is to compact the Inbox. He was not addressing what happens in Trash. Jens used the singular Compact Folder -- if that was intentional, then only the Trash would be compacted. But if he meant to use the plural, Compact Folders would compact all folders in the account, including Inbox, and his comment would be relevant. Maybe I talking olden days, but I don't think an e-mail is really, ever, moved to Trash, it's just marked (in its header) for deletion and, maybe, a pointer is set in trash, but no e-mails in trash. Then, when the e-mail account is compacted, those e-mails marked (in their headers) for deletion, are actually deleted. But I do not do any development work on SM as, I believe, Jens does, so whom should you believe?? -- Daniel ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Default Printer for SeaMonkey
Ed wrote: I would like SeaMonkey to use the system 'default' printer. Setting honoured here (Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:14.0) Gecko/20120715 Firefox/14.0.1 SeaMonkey/2.11) -- Changed default printer, closed down Seamonkey, re-started Seamonkey, printed one page, new default printer selected by default. Philip Taylor ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey 2.11 always comes up with Work Offline
MR ZenWiz schrieb, Am 24.07.2012 07:52: How do I get this to reset to come up with Work Offline unchecked/off? There does not appear to be any setting for it, and it always remembers the one time, ages ago, and I can't get it to forget. Running on Xubuntu 12.04, just installed. Thanks. MR hi go to work on and network random organization - offline the first line - select auto spot, if possible You can go too to Browser - file - work offline hoping, you can understand? Regards Bernd ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Compact Folder Constant Reminder
Rufus wrote: Jens Hatlak wrote: Daniel wrote: Jens Hatlak wrote: Daniel wrote: Rufus, I hope you remember that emptying trash *doesn't* actually delete the e-mails from your inbox, it just marks them for deletion and removes them from your sight. They are not actually deleted until you compact your files!! Wrong (just checked). Please don't give such false advice, especially if it results in data loss without any undo possibility. The Empty Trash command actually includes a Compact Folder call. When did this action change?? Perhaps we users should have had it drawn to our attention!! As Beauregard already noted, what you wrote is probably true if read exactly. Empty Trash does in fact not touch the Inbox, only the Trash folder. For the latter it includes a Compact Folder call. [It didn't appear to me that anyone could think that Empty Trash would affect other folders.] HTH Jens so...Empty Trash actually *does/should* reduce the size of the Inbox because the user has moved the files to the Trash so they no longer reside in the Inbox, and the Trash Compacts on Empty. If it doesn't work that way, it should! That would be what one would expect. No, Rufus, as I understand it:- 1. an e-mail is received into the inbox, un-read. Inbox size is increased. 2. the e-mail in the inbox is read (causing a change in e-mail header). Inbox file size is unchanged. 3. the e-mail in the inbox is marked as Trash, causing change in header, but stays in inbox (invisible) and Trash number increases by one. Inbox file size is unchanged. 4. Trash is emptied, causing change in header, but stays in inbox (invisible) and Trash number goes to zero. Inbox file size is unchanged. 5. E-Mail account is compacted, so all e-mails in the inbox that have the change made in point four are deleted from the inbox and the inbox is compacted, reducing its size. I had thought the indicator might have been X-Mozilla-Status because, in my inbox, an email showed the following difference when I marked it as un-read and then as read:- Unread message X-Mozilla-Status: read messageX-Mozilla-Status: 0001 but another message, which I had marked for deletion still had X-Mozilla-Status: 0001, so I don't know which setting it is!! IMHO, of course, and subject to correction, re-education. -- Daniel ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Default Printer for SeaMonkey
On 7/24/2012 6:39 AM Philip TAYLOR submitted the following: Ed wrote: I would like SeaMonkey to use the system 'default' printer. Setting honoured here (Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:14.0) Gecko/20120715 Firefox/14.0.1 SeaMonkey/2.11) -- Changed default printer, closed down Seamonkey, re-started Seamonkey, printed one page, new default printer selected by default. Philip Taylor Nope - changed system default to my HP printer. Shutdown SM, restarted SM, selected print on an e-mail and SM still wanted to print to the PaperPort printer. Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; WOW64; rv:14.0) Gecko/20120715 Firefox/14.0.1 SeaMonkey/2.11 Ed ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Compact Folder Constant Reminder
Chris Ilias wrote: On 12-07-23 7:52 AM, Daniel wrote: Rufus, I hope you remember that emptying trash *doesn't* actually delete the e-mails from your inbox, That part is right. :) it just marks them for deletion and removes them from your sight. That part is not right. Emptying the trash will delete messages from your trash folder, not the inbox, then it will compact the trash folder, not the inbox. Chris, how does an e-mail get into the trash folder, so that, in your explanation above, it can be deleted from the trash folder?? -- Daniel ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
2.11 on Ubuntuzilla when?
I've been checking ever since 2.11 installed on my Windows partition, and so far I haven't found it. 2.10.1 came up at the same time as it did on Windows, so I'm wondering what might be the delay? -- Jaime A. Cruz Secretary Nassau Wings Motorcycle Club http://www.nassauwings.org/ AMA District 34 http://www.AMADistrict34.com/ Pop's Run http://www.popsrun.org/ ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey 2.11 always comes up with Work Offline
MR ZenWiz wrote: How do I get this to reset to come up with Work Offline unchecked/off? There does not appear to be any setting for it, and it always remembers the one time, ages ago, and I can't get it to forget. Running on Xubuntu 12.04, just installed. Thanks. MR It is my understanding that SeaMonkey will remember what condition it was in when it was closed down, so if you are off-line when you close SM, SM will be off-line when you start up. HTH -- Daniel ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: 2.11 on Ubuntuzilla when?
On my computer (64 bit; Kubuntu precise) version 2.11 has been available for days now (it's called seamonkey-mozilla-build) Cruz, Jaime ha scritto: I've been checking ever since 2.11 installed on my Windows partition, and so far I haven't found it. 2.10.1 came up at the same time as it did on Windows, so I'm wondering what might be the delay? -- Francesco ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Auto-update language packs
I'm currently using the Linux 64-bit experimental build, only available in English, which means I must use a language pack in order to localize seamonkey. Every time I update Seamonkey, the language pack is not automatically updated, and the old, now incompatible version remains. So, every time I update SM, I have to manually download and install again the language pack, for every single user and profile I have on this computer, and sometimes I even have to reactivate and set again the default language. It would be nice if, like every other addon (like Lightning, which always needs to be updated after every SM update), it was automatically updated (eg, when I update SM to 2.11 every language pack I have is updated to 2.11). I haven't found any other report of this; is there a better place to report this? TIA -- Francesco ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Default Printer for SeaMonkey
Ed wrote: Where is the default printer defined? I Find the printers in about:config, but cannot find any place where any is defined as 'default'. I have a number of printers (or pseudo printers) available on this system. My Windows 7 default printer is FinePrint. But SeaMonkey always comes up with PaperPort Image Printer which is a software pseudo printer. I would like SeaMonkey to use the system 'default' printer. -- Ed I believe the default behavior is to remember and use the last selected printer and settings. At least all of my systems work that way. In Firefox this behavior is controlled by the about:config preference print.save_print_settings;true. SeaMonkey has this print.save_print_settings about:config preference also, so assuming SeaMonkey honors it, changing it to false should do what you want but I haven't tried it. -- Jim ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: seamonkey 2.11 - all my addons gone! HELP
NoOp wrote: On 07/23/2012 06:04 PM, David E. Ross wrote: ... ONCE A YEAR??? From now on, do a backup every one or two WEEKS. Install the PrefBar extension. After you install any extension, use PrefBar's InfoList button to get a list of all installed extensions, including disabled ones; copy and save that list. I've never seen this 'InfoList' button I've been using PrefBar for several years. The OP can easily see (and keep a record of) by simple going to Help|Troubleshooting Information print the page and/or 'Copy all to clipboard' and past the lot into LibreOffice or similar. Me neither, and I too have used Prefbar for years. I don't normally have a problem, I used to keep an actual copy of my profile and sync it, but since I was running troublefree it just escaped me... I guess all of this means there is no way other than painstakingly reinstalling them to get my add ons back. Not nice of the SM installer to just eat things. To make matters worse, my Norton internet security just popped up a detection of an infection in the beta I had downloaded (but not installed) - 2.12b. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: seamonkey 2.11 - all my addons gone! HELP
Chris Ilias wrote: On 12-07-23 7:31 AM, Margo Guda wrote: I have been on the beta channel for Seamonkey since I cannot even remember. Today a new beta was automatically installed, but it would not run correctly - did not ask for master password, and did not load any web pages or log on to my email provider. So I downloaded the previous official version (2.11) and installed it over the existing installation. Now all my addons (and I had quite a few!) are GONE. Please help me restore my add-ons, I am totally lost without them. How do I find them again? I can't believe they are totally lost? If you open the Add-ons manager, then select the extensions panel, are then not listed, or are they just disabled? None are listed, and the add-ons manager informs me I have NO extensions installed. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Default Printer for SeaMonkey
Jim Taylor wrote: I believe the default behavior is to remember and use the last selected printer and settings. At least all of my systems work that way. In Firefox this behavior is controlled by the about:config preference print.save_print_settings;true. SeaMonkey has this print.save_print_settings about:config preference also, so assuming SeaMonkey honors it, changing it to false should do what you want but I haven't tried it. It is not at all clear (to me, at least) why so many entries in about:config are classified as dragons, and thus hidden from casual view and change. Although I have not carried out a statistical analysis, I suspect that a significant fraction of these dragons do not breath fire at all, and could usefully be elevated to the status of a full user preference. What do others think ? Philip Taylor ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey 2.11 always comes up with Work Offline
Daniel schrieb, Am 24.07.2012 13:41: MR ZenWiz wrote: How do I get this to reset to come up with Work Offline unchecked/off? There does not appear to be any setting for it, and it always remembers the one time, ages ago, and I can't get it to forget. Running on Xubuntu 12.04, just installed. Thanks. MR It is my understanding that SeaMonkey will remember what condition it was in when it was closed down, so if you are off-line when you close SM, SM will be off-line when you start up. HTH No sir ;-) Thats not right Bernd ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey 2.11 always comes up with Work Offline
Bernd Adda wrote: Daniel schrieb, Am 24.07.2012 13:41: It is my understanding that SeaMonkey will remember what condition it was in when it was closed down, so if you are off-line when you close SM, SM will be off-line when you start up. HTH No sir ;-) Thats not right Bernd It is right here; empirically tested and thereby proven. I cannot send this now, because Send is replaced by Send later as I went offline before closing and re-starting Seamonkey. Philip Taylor ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: places.sqlite
On 7/23/2012 10:10 PM PT, Jens Hatlak typed: Note that I don't want to use Mozilla's Sync or run my own server (complicated and running server on residential cable is not allowed), but I don't mind doing it manually and locally when I have multiple places.sqlite file copies. Well, your choice. Sync is made exactly for that, and works flawlessly. Thanks. I just don't like the cloud. Oh well, thanks anyways. -- ... human societies send their young men to war, weaver-ant societies send their old ladies. --Wilson and Holldobler /\___/\ Ant(Dude) @ http://antfarm.ma.cx (Personal Web Site) / /\ /\ \Ant's Quality Foraged Links: http://aqfl.net | |o o| | \ _ /If crediting, then use Ant nickname and AQFL URL/link. ( ) If e-mailing, then axe ANT from its address if needed. Ant is currently not listening to any songs on this computer. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: emails / server settings
Daniel wrote, On 7/24/2012 6:23 AM: rjkrjk wrote: win xp sp3 / android 2.3.5 have just started using an android tablet (samsung) there are hundreds of emails on my samsung android, which have long been deleted on the desktop after some reading and research, I assumed it was a matter of syncing the tablet with the desktop. ( as an aside, don't know why mozilla refers back to firefox with instructions for SM). sync was done on both sides, at least that's the message I got but after the sync.. all the messages were still there, tried to some other things but nothing worked. I then checked my ISP Inbox (directly) and the same hundreds of messages were there as well. I deleted them all, and subsequently all the emails on the tablet also disappeared I remembered something about server settings and messages, so I proceeded to SERVER SETTINGS and unchecked LEAVE MESSAGES ON SERVER box will UNchecking this box hopefully resolve my situation where my tablet is retaining all my emails ?? In olden days, when it was just computers downloading e-mails from an ISP, it was advised that if more than one computer was downloading from the same account, then one computer should be set-up to download remove the e-mails from the ISP's server. Any other computers (laptops, etc) should be set up to download but leave the emails on the ISP's server. In SeaMonkey on a computer, that would be Edit-Mail Newsgroup Account Settings, select Server Settings for your e-mail account and, in roughly the middle of the screen, under Server Settings tick Leave messages on server. Don't know if tablet versions of SM have a similar setting!! HTH! don' think there is a version of SM for android yet using FF -Android to access my emails (ISP and Gmail) will see if I can update either of those 2 WHY should I leave emails on the server ?? there's typically a limit on how much mail be be stored by the ISP, but OTOH they may delete all mail older than XX days, which would resolve that problem ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: emails / server settings
rjkrjk wrote: WHY should I leave emails on the server ?? Because they will then be accessible no matter where you are in the world (so long as you have network connectivity, of course). Server administrators are also normally far more punctilious about backing up data. Philip Taylor ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Default Printer for SeaMonkey
On 24.07.2012 09:42, Ed wrote: --- Original Message --- Nope - changed it from true to false. Changed printer from PaperPort to HP Printer. Printed one page to the HP printer. Closed sm. Opened sm. Printer selected was back to PaperPort. Reset print.save_print_settings to true. Changed printer and printed one page to hp printer. Closed sm. Opened sm. Printer selected was back to PaperPort. No difference between true and false on that setting. In your OS printers section, click on your HP Printer and select Properties. Set it as default. Then, in any OTHER application such as Word, etc. bring up a document and print. Does it use the HP default printer? Probably so. Now start Seamonkey and print. What happens now? If it still uses the PaperPort then exit Seamonkey, locate your profile and the file prefs.js - make a copy of this file. Then right-click on prefs.js (not the copy) and choose edit. find all the lines referring to printers and remove the lines. Save - Exit - restart SM. Now what happens when you print? -- Jay Garcia - www.ufaq.org - Netscape - Firefox - SeaMonkey - Thunderbird Mozilla Contribute Coordinator Team - www.mozilla.org/contribute/ Mozilla Mozillian Member - www.mozillians.org Mozilla Contributor Member - www.mozilla.org/credits/ ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Compact Folder Constant Reminder
Rufus wrote: Chris Ilias wrote: On 12-07-23 3:07 PM, Rufus wrote: Chris Ilias wrote: On 12-07-23 7:52 AM, Daniel wrote: Rufus, I hope you remember that emptying trash *doesn't* actually delete the e-mails from your inbox, That part is right. :) it just marks them for deletion and removes them from your sight. That part is not right. Emptying the trash will delete messages from your trash folder, not the inbox, then it will compact the trash folder, not the inbox. so...you're telling me that moving things out of my Inbox does not actually move them out of my Inbox? I have no idea what people are trying to say about this. Why would I Empty Trash if I haven't placed something in there in the first place? And why wouldn't moving something there actually *put* it *there* for action? If you select a message in your inbox, and click delete, the message will be copied over to your trash folder. The version in your inbox will then be marked as deleted and hidden from view. This where I loose it...copied? Why isn't the message *moved* to the Trash vise just being removed from display? That doesn't make any logical sense to me - true or not... Compacting a folder will command SeaMonkey to remove all messages from that folder that are marked as deleted. That makes sense - as long as it also globally removes all messages marked as deleted and still not displayed. I don't see how it would though, as it seems it will only compact the single specified Folder. Empty Trash will not only hide all messages in the Trash folder from view, but also remove them. Which is what one would expect. * Although it may not technically go through those steps. It seems easier/faster to just remove all messages in the trash, regardless if they are marked as deleted or not. It's the same result. In light of the above, I can't see why I don't see Compact All Folders requests when I have my invoke set at 20 Meg. I should think I'd see a lot of them - I don't seem to see any at all. I think I'm going to set my threshold lower - like 5 Meg - if this is what is really going on. Here's were terminology is important: When you *copy anything to a new location it also remains in the old location. When you *cut anything and paste it to a new location it's gone from the original location (it's moved). The questions are: 1)When you delete from the inbox, you are cutting or copying? Does the inbox need to be compacted? 2)When you delete from the sent folder, you are cutting or copying? Does the inbox need to be compacted? 3)When you delete from the trash, you are cutting or copying? I always thought that this was the only folder that needs compacting. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey 2.11 always comes up with Work Offline
Philip TAYLOR schrieb, Am 24.07.2012 16:19: Bernd Adda wrote: Daniel schrieb, Am 24.07.2012 13:41: It is my understanding that SeaMonkey will remember what condition it was in when it was closed down, so if you are off-line when you close SM, SM will be off-line when you start up. HTH No sir ;-) Thats not right Bernd It is right here; empirically tested and thereby proven. I cannot send this now, because Send is replaced by Send later as I went offline before closing and re-starting Seamonkey. Philip Taylor ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey How I wrote, you can do something for it. (sorry for my english) If you open sm offline, go to to work on - settings - - Mail Newsgroups - network retention The first line you can modify Ido it like this recognice auto - if possible (sm is possible for it) You can do too the following: go into the browser to file down to work offline and change it This is only a workaround till to the help beetling Bernd Bernd ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey 2.11 always comes up with Work Offline
Bernd Adda wrote: How I wrote, you can do something for it. (sorry for my english) If you open sm offline, go to to work on - settings - - Mail Newsgroups - network retention The first line you can modify Ido it like this recognice auto - if possible (sm is possible for it) You can do too the following: go into the browser to file down to work offline and change it This is only a workaround till to the help beetling Bernd OK, so if we modify the original hypothesis to read : It is my understanding that SeaMonkey can be configuted to remember what condition it was in when it was closed down, so if you are off-line when you close SM, SM will be off-line when you start up. you would agree with that statement ? -- MIL-05991/237/2012-B : Any loss of data or other computer malfunction resulting directly or indirectly from the use of Linux will be regarded as a self-inflicted injury and treated accordingly. You have been warned ... ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Compact Folder Constant Reminder
Daniel wrote: Rufus wrote: Jens Hatlak wrote: Daniel wrote: Jens Hatlak wrote: Daniel wrote: Rufus, I hope you remember that emptying trash *doesn't* actually delete the e-mails from your inbox, it just marks them for deletion and removes them from your sight. They are not actually deleted until you compact your files!! Wrong (just checked). Please don't give such false advice, especially if it results in data loss without any undo possibility. The Empty Trash command actually includes a Compact Folder call. When did this action change?? Perhaps we users should have had it drawn to our attention!! As Beauregard already noted, what you wrote is probably true if read exactly. Empty Trash does in fact not touch the Inbox, only the Trash folder. For the latter it includes a Compact Folder call. [It didn't appear to me that anyone could think that Empty Trash would affect other folders.] HTH Jens so...Empty Trash actually *does/should* reduce the size of the Inbox because the user has moved the files to the Trash so they no longer reside in the Inbox, and the Trash Compacts on Empty. If it doesn't work that way, it should! That would be what one would expect. No, Rufus, as I understand it:- 1.an e-mail is received into the inbox, un-read. Inbox size is increased. 2.the e-mail in the inbox is read (causing a change in e-mail header). Inbox file size is unchanged. 3.the e-mail in the inbox is marked as Trash, causing change in header, but stays in inbox (invisible) and Trash number increases by one. Inbox file size is unchanged. 4.Trash is emptied, causing change in header, but stays in inbox (invisible) and Trash number goes to zero. Inbox file size is unchanged. 5.*E-Mail account is compacted*, so all e-mails in the inbox that have the change made in point four are deleted from the inbox and the inbox is compacted, reducing its size. I had thought the indicator might have been X-Mozilla-Status because, in my inbox, an email showed the following difference when I marked it as un-read and then as read:- Unread messageX-Mozilla-Status: read messageX-Mozilla-Status: 0001 but another message, which I had marked for deletion still had X-Mozilla-Status: 0001, so I don't know which setting it is!! IMHO, of course, and subject to correction, re-education. You state above E-Mail account is compacted. How do you do that? I only know how to compact individual folders. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey 2.11 always comes up with Work Offline
Philip TAYLOR schrieb, Am 24.07.2012 18:09: Bernd Adda wrote: How I wrote, you can do something for it. (sorry for my english) If you open sm offline, go to to work on - settings - - Mail Newsgroups - network retention The first line you can modify Ido it like this recognice auto - if possible (sm is possible for it) You can do too the following: go into the browser to file down to work offline and change it This is only a workaround till to the help beetling Bernd OK, so if we modify the original hypothesis to read : It is my understanding that SeaMonkey can be configuted to remember what condition it was in when it was closed down, so if you are off-line when you close SM, SM will be off-line when you start up. you would agree with that statement ? If you mean, you don't understand my english, no problem I can't understand you too, my problem You are the better one Bernd ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Default Printer for SeaMonkey
On 7/24/2012 11:08 AM Jay Garcia submitted the following: On 24.07.2012 09:42, Ed wrote: --- Original Message --- Nope - changed it from true to false. Changed printer from PaperPort to HP Printer. Printed one page to the HP printer. Closed sm. Opened sm. Printer selected was back to PaperPort. Reset print.save_print_settings to true. Changed printer and printed one page to hp printer. Closed sm. Opened sm. Printer selected was back to PaperPort. No difference between true and false on that setting. In your OS printers section, click on your HP Printer and select Properties. Set it as default. Then, in any OTHER application such as Word, etc. bring up a document and print. Does it use the HP default printer? Probably so. Now start Seamonkey and print. What happens now? If it still uses the PaperPort then exit Seamonkey, locate your profile and the file prefs.js - make a copy of this file. Then right-click on prefs.js (not the copy) and choose edit. find all the lines referring to printers and remove the lines. Save - Exit - restart SM. Now what happens when you print? That did it. And it added the HP printer info back into the prefs.js file. Also looking at the pref.js file there is quite a bit of garbage(?) left over from installations of extensions that are no longer in use and were not removed when removing the extensions. I assume they can also be removed? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey 2.11 always comes up with Work Offline
MR ZenWiz wrote: How do I get this to reset to come up with Work Offline unchecked/off? There does not appear to be any setting for it, and it always remembers the one time, ages ago, and I can't get it to forget. Running on Xubuntu 12.04, just installed. Thanks. MR As Bernd Adda said, Preferences - Mail Newsgroups - Network Storage - Offline: When starting up. (repeating 'cos I've got the English version wuth the English texts) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Default Printer for SeaMonkey
On 7/24/2012 1:32 PM Ed submitted the following: On 7/24/2012 11:08 AM Jay Garcia submitted the following: D E L E T E D In your OS printers section, click on your HP Printer and select Properties. Set it as default. Then, in any OTHER application such as Word, etc. bring up a document and print. Does it use the HP default printer? Probably so. Now start Seamonkey and print. What happens now? If it still uses the PaperPort then exit Seamonkey, locate your profile and the file prefs.js - make a copy of this file. Then right-click on prefs.js (not the copy) and choose edit. find all the lines referring to printers and remove the lines. Save - Exit - restart SM. Now what happens when you print? That did it. And it added the HP printer info back into the prefs.js file. Also looking at the pref.js file there is quite a bit of garbage(?) left over from installations of extensions that are no longer in use and were not removed when removing the extensions. I assume they can also be removed? Additional: The above worked fine until I had a page I wanted to print in pdf. I went to print - selected PDFCREATOR as a printer and printed the page. Now THAT printer has been added to about:config and when exiting SM is now in the prefs.js file along with the HP printer. PDFCREATOR is now the printer that shows up in SeaMonkey as it's default printer although the system default is the HP printer. Back to square one. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Default Printer for SeaMonkey
Ed wrote: On 7/24/2012 1:32 PM Ed submitted the following: On 7/24/2012 11:08 AM Jay Garcia submitted the following: D E L E T E D In your OS printers section, click on your HP Printer and select Properties. Set it as default. Then, in any OTHER application such as Word, etc. bring up a document and print. Does it use the HP default printer? Probably so. Now start Seamonkey and print. What happens now? If it still uses the PaperPort then exit Seamonkey, locate your profile and the file prefs.js - make a copy of this file. Then right-click on prefs.js (not the copy) and choose edit. find all the lines referring to printers and remove the lines. Save - Exit - restart SM. Now what happens when you print? That did it. And it added the HP printer info back into the prefs.js file. Also looking at the pref.js file there is quite a bit of garbage(?) left over from installations of extensions that are no longer in use and were not removed when removing the extensions. I assume they can also be removed? Additional: The above worked fine until I had a page I wanted to print in pdf. I went to print - selected PDFCREATOR as a printer and printed the page. Now THAT printer has been added to about:config and when exiting SM is now in the prefs.js file along with the HP printer. PDFCREATOR is now the printer that shows up in SeaMonkey as it's default printer although the system default is the HP printer. Back to square one. How did you leave print.save_print_settings? Did you leave it false or did you change it back to the default of true? -- Jim ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Compact Folder Constant Reminder
Mike C wrote: Rufus wrote: Chris Ilias wrote: On 12-07-23 3:07 PM, Rufus wrote: Chris Ilias wrote: On 12-07-23 7:52 AM, Daniel wrote: Rufus, I hope you remember that emptying trash *doesn't* actually delete the e-mails from your inbox, That part is right. :) it just marks them for deletion and removes them from your sight. That part is not right. Emptying the trash will delete messages from your trash folder, not the inbox, then it will compact the trash folder, not the inbox. so...you're telling me that moving things out of my Inbox does not actually move them out of my Inbox? I have no idea what people are trying to say about this. Why would I Empty Trash if I haven't placed something in there in the first place? And why wouldn't moving something there actually *put* it *there* for action? If you select a message in your inbox, and click delete, the message will be copied over to your trash folder. The version in your inbox will then be marked as deleted and hidden from view. This where I loose it...copied? Why isn't the message *moved* to the Trash vise just being removed from display? That doesn't make any logical sense to me - true or not... Compacting a folder will command SeaMonkey to remove all messages from that folder that are marked as deleted. That makes sense - as long as it also globally removes all messages marked as deleted and still not displayed. I don't see how it would though, as it seems it will only compact the single specified Folder. Empty Trash will not only hide all messages in the Trash folder from view, but also remove them. Which is what one would expect. * Although it may not technically go through those steps. It seems easier/faster to just remove all messages in the trash, regardless if they are marked as deleted or not. It's the same result. In light of the above, I can't see why I don't see Compact All Folders requests when I have my invoke set at 20 Meg. I should think I'd see a lot of them - I don't seem to see any at all. I think I'm going to set my threshold lower - like 5 Meg - if this is what is really going on. Here's were terminology is important: When you *copy anything to a new location it also remains in the old location. When you *cut anything and paste it to a new location it's gone from the original location (it's moved). The questions are: 1)When you delete from the inbox, you are cutting or copying? Does the inbox need to be compacted? 2)When you delete from the sent folder, you are cutting or copying? Does the inbox need to be compacted? 3)When you delete from the trash, you are cutting or copying? I always thought that this was the only folder that needs compacting. Precisely. I get the impression that an actual cut is *never* performed. Nor is an actual delete. And since I'm not seeing requests to Compact All Folders, how do I force/invoke that? I can't find a menu item for it... -- - Rufus ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Default Printer for SeaMonkey
On 7/24/2012 2:53 PM Jim Taylor submitted the following: Ed wrote: On 7/24/2012 1:32 PM Ed submitted the following: On 7/24/2012 11:08 AM Jay Garcia submitted the following: D E L E T E D In your OS printers section, click on your HP Printer and select Properties. Set it as default. Then, in any OTHER application such as Word, etc. bring up a document and print. Does it use the HP default printer? Probably so. Now start Seamonkey and print. What happens now? If it still uses the PaperPort then exit Seamonkey, locate your profile and the file prefs.js - make a copy of this file. Then right-click on prefs.js (not the copy) and choose edit. find all the lines referring to printers and remove the lines. Save - Exit - restart SM. Now what happens when you print? That did it. And it added the HP printer info back into the prefs.js file. Also looking at the pref.js file there is quite a bit of garbage(?) left over from installations of extensions that are no longer in use and were not removed when removing the extensions. I assume they can also be removed? Additional: The above worked fine until I had a page I wanted to print in pdf. I went to print - selected PDFCREATOR as a printer and printed the page. Now THAT printer has been added to about:config and when exiting SM is now in the prefs.js file along with the HP printer. PDFCREATOR is now the printer that shows up in SeaMonkey as it's default printer although the system default is the HP printer. Back to square one. How did you leave print.save_print_settings? Did you leave it false or did you change it back to the default of true? Default of true. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Compact Folder Constant Reminder
On 12-07-24 12:24 PM, Mike C wrote: You state above E-Mail account is compacted. How do you do that? I only know how to compact individual folders. I think what he means is File--Compact_Folders, which goes through all of your folders. -- Chris Ilias http://ilias.ca Newsgroup moderator ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Default Printer for SeaMonkey
On 7/24/2012 2:31 PM Ed submitted the following: On 7/24/2012 1:32 PM Ed submitted the following: On 7/24/2012 11:08 AM Jay Garcia submitted the following: D E L E T E D In your OS printers section, click on your HP Printer and select Properties. Set it as default. Then, in any OTHER application such as Word, etc. bring up a document and print. Does it use the HP default printer? Probably so. Now start Seamonkey and print. What happens now? If it still uses the PaperPort then exit Seamonkey, locate your profile and the file prefs.js - make a copy of this file. Then right-click on prefs.js (not the copy) and choose edit. find all the lines referring to printers and remove the lines. Save - Exit - restart SM. Now what happens when you print? That did it. And it added the HP printer info back into the prefs.js file. Also looking at the pref.js file there is quite a bit of garbage(?) left over from installations of extensions that are no longer in use and were not removed when removing the extensions. I assume they can also be removed? Additional: The above worked fine until I had a page I wanted to print in pdf. I went to print - selected PDFCREATOR as a printer and printed the page. Now THAT printer has been added to about:config and when exiting SM is now in the prefs.js file along with the HP printer. PDFCREATOR is now the printer that shows up in SeaMonkey as it's default printer although the system default is the HP printer. Back to square one. A little more investigation shows: 1. Cleaned printers out of prefs.js 2. Started SM 3. Printed to Printer WIN Default A 4. Printer A now shows up in about:config and prefs.js (after closing SM) 5. Started SM 6. Printed to Printer A 7. Selected a new Printer B (Printer A remains WIN Default printer) 8. Printed to Printer B 9. Printer B now shows up in about:config and prefs.js after Printer A entries. (after closing SM - Printer A remains WIN Default) 10. Started SM 11. Printer now prints to Printer B 12. Repeat steps 7 to 10 replacing B with C 13. Repeat steps 7 to 10 replacing C with D Now my SM default printer is Printer D (WIN Default still A) Printer D is the last printer that shows in about:config and prefs.js print.save_print_settings is set to true It appears that each time a different printer is selected when printing from SeaMonkey, SeaMonkey reverts back to the last printer in line in the about:config table after the print job and, if not previously in the config file adds the printer just used after the previously entered printers. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Compact Folder Constant Reminder
On 12-07-24 11:15 AM, Mike C wrote: The questions are: 1)When you delete from the inbox, you are cutting or copying? What you see: cutting. How it is stored: copying. Does the inbox need to be compacted? There answer to every Does fill in the blank folder need to be compacted? is yes. :) 2)When you delete from the sent folder, you are cutting or copying? What you see: cutting. How it is stored: copying. Does the inbox need to be compacted? Items in the sent folder were never in the inbox, so no; but the sent folder would need to be compacted. 3)When you delete from the trash, you are cutting or copying? Neither. (Where would you be copying/moving to?) If you select a message in the trash and click delete, it gets removed from view, but still exists in the actual trash file. You still need to compact the folder. If you use the 'empty trash' command, it will include an action to compact the trash folder. Now you guys know why auto-compacting was switched on by default. :) -- Chris Ilias http://ilias.ca Newsgroup moderator ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Compact Folder Constant Reminder
On 12-07-24 7:24 AM, Daniel wrote: Chris Ilias wrote: On 12-07-23 7:52 AM, Daniel wrote: Rufus, I hope you remember that emptying trash *doesn't* actually delete the e-mails from your inbox, That part is right. :) it just marks them for deletion and removes them from your sight. That part is not right. Emptying the trash will delete messages from your trash folder, not the inbox, then it will compact the trash folder, not the inbox. Chris, how does an e-mail get into the trash folder, so that, in your explanation above, it can be deleted from the trash folder?? When you select a message and click delete, it looks like it is being moved to the trash folder, but underneath it is really being copied to the trash folder. -- Chris Ilias http://ilias.ca Mailing list/Newsgroup moderator ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: seamonkey 2.11 - all my addons gone! HELP
On 12-07-24 9:21 AM, Margo Guda wrote: Chris Ilias wrote: On 12-07-23 7:31 AM, Margo Guda wrote: I have been on the beta channel for Seamonkey since I cannot even remember. Today a new beta was automatically installed, but it would not run correctly - did not ask for master password, and did not load any web pages or log on to my email provider. So I downloaded the previous official version (2.11) and installed it over the existing installation. Now all my addons (and I had quite a few!) are GONE. Please help me restore my add-ons, I am totally lost without them. How do I find them again? I can't believe they are totally lost? If you open the Add-ons manager, then select the extensions panel, are then not listed, or are they just disabled? None are listed, and the add-ons manager informs me I have NO extensions installed. 1. Go to Help--Troubleshooting_Information. 2. Click on [Open Containing Folder]. That should open your profile folder in a Windows Explorer window. 3. Close SeaMonkey. In your profile folder, go to the \extensions\ folder. Are there folders for each extension you had installed? If so, go back up one level, and delete the files: extensions.ini extensions.rdf extensions.sqlite -- Chris Ilias http://ilias.ca Newsgroup moderator ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Message-Headers are erroneously displayed in SeaMonkey's Thread-pane's Subject window.
Barry Edwin Gilmour wrote, On 21/07/2012 02:27: Ray_Net wrote: Barry Edwin Gilmour wrote, On 20/07/2012 03:43: Ray_Net wrote: Thee Chicago Wolf [MVP] wrote, On 19/07/2012 20:18: The subject of a mail is too long in the window list of subjects. But is ok in the window preview of the mail. You certainly will argue that SM is perfect and this is because the mail came from another mail-client. BUT SM is not consistent between his two windows window list of subjects and window preview of the mail As seen here: http://home.scarlet.be/~rs268454/subject-too-long.jpg What can i do to permit a solution of this SM problem ? If the width of the subject column is xx characters wide, you could widen it. This is not the fault of Seamonkey nor another email client. It is a pixel limit in the column width. You could always use a smaller display font which will then fit more characters in whatever the width is of your Subject column. It up to you, the user, to adjust the Subject column width to allow for long subject lines. - Thee Chicago Wolf [MVP] You did not understand or you did not look at my screen copy. The subject in the window list of subjects is INCORRECT. Look in my screen copy the added string To: undisclosed-recipie...@hays.is.scarlet.be or X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 120719-1, 19/07/2012), Outbound message Came from the next part of the mail and have nothing to do with the subject. This extra string is not present in the window preview of the mail which is ABOLUTELY correct. and have nothing to do with the ...width of the subject column. IT'S NOT A LONG SUBJECT LINE the subject should be only = to: Tr : TR: Fw: Tr: : Comprendre le français. or Réf. : Crabe et Corsica without any other text appended. Message-Headers are erroneously displayed in SeaMonkey's Thread-pane's Subject window.. THANKS with this short description, i was able to create https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=776096 Voila ! Now i will wait until i died for a solution :-) Haven't seen it myself, but it certainly is unusual. If you could copy the message's source-text, into your bug report (in English, the menu is:- View - Message S_o_urce Ctrl+U), I think that may help locate the cause. I have updated my bug text, because i am now under SM 2.11 (a non obsolete product) Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:14.0) Gecko/20120715 Firefox/14.0.1 SeaMonkey/2.11 as follow: (In reply to Tony Mechelynck [:tonymec] fromcomment #2 https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=776096#c2) SeaMonkey 2.8 is obsolete. Please retest with SeaMonkey 2.11 or later. I just upgraded to SM 2.11 and i have the same result: Both display of subject are not identical - So someone can work on it to find a solution. This solution would be to not append the next Message-Header at the end of the subject in the SeaMonkey's Thread-pane's Subject window. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: places.sqlite
On 7/23/12 8:19 PM, Ant wrote: Hello. In older SM versions, there used to be history.dat and bookmarks.html files. Is there a way to have the newer versions' places.sqlite to separate these two components (bookmarks and histories) even if I have to do it manually? I have been copying places.sqlite file between computers for about nine days. I forgot to manually copy my latest work/office's places.sqlite file copy for my home computer earlier today. I wonder if there was a way to merge both. Note that I don't want to use Mozilla's Sync or run my own server (complicated and running server on residential cable is not allowed), but I don't mind doing it manually and locally when I have multiple places.sqlite file copies. Thank you in advance. :) This was bug #660572. Unfortunately, others decided that this would not be implemented. See https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=660572. -- David E. Ross http://www.rossde.com/. Anyone who thinks government owns a monopoly on inefficient, obstructive bureaucracy has obviously never worked for a large corporation. © 1997 by David E. Ross ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Default Printer for SeaMonkey
On 7/24/12 1:03 PM, Ed wrote: On 7/24/2012 2:31 PM Ed submitted the following: On 7/24/2012 1:32 PM Ed submitted the following: On 7/24/2012 11:08 AM Jay Garcia submitted the following: D E L E T E D In your OS printers section, click on your HP Printer and select Properties. Set it as default. Then, in any OTHER application such as Word, etc. bring up a document and print. Does it use the HP default printer? Probably so. Now start Seamonkey and print. What happens now? If it still uses the PaperPort then exit Seamonkey, locate your profile and the file prefs.js - make a copy of this file. Then right-click on prefs.js (not the copy) and choose edit. find all the lines referring to printers and remove the lines. Save - Exit - restart SM. Now what happens when you print? That did it. And it added the HP printer info back into the prefs.js file. Also looking at the pref.js file there is quite a bit of garbage(?) left over from installations of extensions that are no longer in use and were not removed when removing the extensions. I assume they can also be removed? Additional: The above worked fine until I had a page I wanted to print in pdf. I went to print - selected PDFCREATOR as a printer and printed the page. Now THAT printer has been added to about:config and when exiting SM is now in the prefs.js file along with the HP printer. PDFCREATOR is now the printer that shows up in SeaMonkey as it's default printer although the system default is the HP printer. Back to square one. A little more investigation shows: 1. Cleaned printers out of prefs.js 2. Started SM 3. Printed to Printer WIN Default A 4. Printer A now shows up in about:config and prefs.js (after closing SM) 5. Started SM 6. Printed to Printer A 7. Selected a new Printer B (Printer A remains WIN Default printer) 8. Printed to Printer B 9. Printer B now shows up in about:config and prefs.js after Printer A entries. (after closing SM - Printer A remains WIN Default) 10. Started SM 11. Printer now prints to Printer B 12. Repeat steps 7 to 10 replacing B with C 13. Repeat steps 7 to 10 replacing C with D Now my SM default printer is Printer D (WIN Default still A) Printer D is the last printer that shows in about:config and prefs.js print.save_print_settings is set to true It appears that each time a different printer is selected when printing from SeaMonkey, SeaMonkey reverts back to the last printer in line in the about:config table after the print job and, if not previously in the config file adds the printer just used after the previously entered printers. Instead, I think SeaMonkey remembers the last printer it used and makes that its default printer until some other printer is used by SeaMonkey. That is, SeaMonkey's default printer is always the last printer SeaMonkey actually used. -- David E. Ross http://www.rossde.com/. Anyone who thinks government owns a monopoly on inefficient, obstructive bureaucracy has obviously never worked for a large corporation. © 1997 by David E. Ross ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: seamonkey 2.11 - all my addons gone! HELP
On 7/24/12 6:20 AM, Margo Guda wrote: NoOp wrote: On 07/23/2012 06:04 PM, David E. Ross wrote: ... ONCE A YEAR??? From now on, do a backup every one or two WEEKS. Install the PrefBar extension. After you install any extension, use PrefBar's InfoList button to get a list of all installed extensions, including disabled ones; copy and save that list. I've never seen this 'InfoList' button I've been using PrefBar for several years. The OP can easily see (and keep a record of) by simple going to Help|Troubleshooting Information print the page and/or 'Copy all to clipboard' and past the lot into LibreOffice or similar. Me neither, and I too have used Prefbar for years. I don't normally have a problem, I used to keep an actual copy of my profile and sync it, but since I was running troublefree it just escaped me... I guess all of this means there is no way other than painstakingly reinstalling them to get my add ons back. Not nice of the SM installer to just eat things. To make matters worse, my Norton internet security just popped up a detection of an infection in the beta I had downloaded (but not installed) - 2.12b. InfoList is one of the More Buttons available at http://prefbar.tuxfamily.org/buttons.html#infolist. Regarding copying and pasting from the [Help Troubleshooting Information] display, see bug #726605 at https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=726605. -- David E. Ross http://www.rossde.com/. Anyone who thinks government owns a monopoly on inefficient, obstructive bureaucracy has obviously never worked for a large corporation. © 1997 by David E. Ross ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: 2.11 on Ubuntuzilla when?
Francesco Presel wrote: On my computer (64 bit; Kubuntu precise) version 2.11 has been available for days now (it's called seamonkey-mozilla-build) Cruz, Jaime ha scritto: I've been checking ever since 2.11 installed on my Windows partition, and so far I haven't found it. 2.10.1 came up at the same time as it did on Windows, so I'm wondering what might be the delay? I have the 32-bit version of Precise Pangolin. When I sent this message this morning, it was still not showing up. I'll try again later this evening. -- Jaime A. Cruz Secretary Nassau Wings Motorcycle Club http://www.nassauwings.org/ AMA District 34 http://www.AMADistrict34.com/ Pop's Run http://www.popsrun.org/ ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
images imbedded
On Amazon.com (of all places) the images do not show yet if I select an image and show image it shows fine! I've cleared cookies and image permissions. what else? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey 2.11 always comes up with Work Offline [SOLVED]
On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 11:22 AM, A Williams root@localhost.localdomain wrote: MR ZenWiz wrote: How do I get this to reset to come up with Work Offline unchecked/off? There does not appear to be any setting for it, and it always remembers the one time, ages ago, and I can't get it to forget. Running on Xubuntu 12.04, just installed. Thanks. MR As Bernd Adda said, Preferences - Mail Newsgroups - Network Storage - Offline: When starting up. (repeating 'cos I've got the English version wuth the English texts) Ah, ok. I couldn't quite follow what Bernd said, but thanks to all who responded. MR ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Default Printer for SeaMonkey
On 7/24/2012 6:18 PM David E. Ross submitted the following: On 7/24/12 1:03 PM, Ed wrote: On 7/24/2012 2:31 PM Ed submitted the following: On 7/24/2012 1:32 PM Ed submitted the following: On 7/24/2012 11:08 AM Jay Garcia submitted the following: D E L E T E D In your OS printers section, click on your HP Printer and select Properties. Set it as default. Then, in any OTHER application such as Word, etc. bring up a document and print. Does it use the HP default printer? Probably so. Now start Seamonkey and print. What happens now? If it still uses the PaperPort then exit Seamonkey, locate your profile and the file prefs.js - make a copy of this file. Then right-click on prefs.js (not the copy) and choose edit. find all the lines referring to printers and remove the lines. Save - Exit - restart SM. Now what happens when you print? That did it. And it added the HP printer info back into the prefs.js file. Also looking at the pref.js file there is quite a bit of garbage(?) left over from installations of extensions that are no longer in use and were not removed when removing the extensions. I assume they can also be removed? Additional: The above worked fine until I had a page I wanted to print in pdf. I went to print - selected PDFCREATOR as a printer and printed the page. Now THAT printer has been added to about:config and when exiting SM is now in the prefs.js file along with the HP printer. PDFCREATOR is now the printer that shows up in SeaMonkey as it's default printer although the system default is the HP printer. Back to square one. A little more investigation shows: 1. Cleaned printers out of prefs.js 2. Started SM 3. Printed to Printer WIN Default A 4. Printer A now shows up in about:config and prefs.js (after closing SM) 5. Started SM 6. Printed to Printer A 7. Selected a new Printer B (Printer A remains WIN Default printer) 8. Printed to Printer B 9. Printer B now shows up in about:config and prefs.js after Printer A entries. (after closing SM - Printer A remains WIN Default) 10. Started SM 11. Printer now prints to Printer B 12. Repeat steps 7 to 10 replacing B with C 13. Repeat steps 7 to 10 replacing C with D Now my SM default printer is Printer D (WIN Default still A) Printer D is the last printer that shows in about:config and prefs.js print.save_print_settings is set to true It appears that each time a different printer is selected when printing from SeaMonkey, SeaMonkey reverts back to the last printer in line in the about:config table after the print job and, if not previously in the config file adds the printer just used after the previously entered printers. Instead, I think SeaMonkey remembers the last printer it used and makes that its default printer until some other printer is used by SeaMonkey. That is, SeaMonkey's default printer is always the last printer SeaMonkey actually used. From my testing it would appear to be the last printer in the entry table of config in the user profile. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: seamonkey 2.11 - all my addons gone! HELP
Chris Ilias wrote: On 12-07-24 9:21 AM, Margo Guda wrote: Chris Ilias wrote: On 12-07-23 7:31 AM, Margo Guda wrote: I have been on the beta channel for Seamonkey since I cannot even remember. Today a new beta was automatically installed, but it would not run correctly - did not ask for master password, and did not load any web pages or log on to my email provider. So I downloaded the previous official version (2.11) and installed it over the existing installation. Now all my addons (and I had quite a few!) are GONE. Please help me restore my add-ons, I am totally lost without them. How do I find them again? I can't believe they are totally lost? If you open the Add-ons manager, then select the extensions panel, are then not listed, or are they just disabled? None are listed, and the add-ons manager informs me I have NO extensions installed. 1. Go to Help--Troubleshooting_Information. 2. Click on [Open Containing Folder]. That should open your profile folder in a Windows Explorer window. 3. Close SeaMonkey. In your profile folder, go to the \extensions\ folder. Are there folders for each extension you had installed? If so, go back up one level, and delete the files: extensions.ini extensions.rdf extensions.sqlite There are no folders. Why not? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Compact Folder Constant Reminder
Chris Ilias wrote: On 12-07-24 11:15 AM, Mike C wrote: The questions are: 1)When you delete from the inbox, you are cutting or copying? What you see: cutting. How it is stored: copying. Does the inbox need to be compacted? There answer to every Does fill in the blank folder need to be compacted? is yes. :) 2)When you delete from the sent folder, you are cutting or copying? What you see: cutting. How it is stored: copying. Does the inbox need to be compacted? Items in the sent folder were never in the inbox, so no; but the sent folder would need to be compacted. 3)When you delete from the trash, you are cutting or copying? Neither. (Where would you be copying/moving to?) If you select a message in the trash and click delete, it gets removed from view, but still exists in the actual trash file. You still need to compact the folder. If you use the 'empty trash' command, it will include an action to compact the trash folder. Now you guys know why auto-compacting was switched on by default. :) I'd be *really* happy if I had a user pref option to Compact All Folders on closing Mail, and/or SM (closing session) - like the way I can choose to Empty Trash on Exit with the Mac Mail client. Mac Mail prefs and file management are two of the reasons I use Mac Mail as my primary e-mail client...if it had a newsreader built into it I probably wouldn't be using SM or T-bird, at this point. Though I do prefer SM Browser pref options over both Safari and FF. -- - Rufus ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Compact Folder Constant Reminder
On 07/24/2012 05:47 PM, Rufus wrote: Chris Ilias wrote: On 12-07-24 12:24 PM, Mike C wrote: You state above E-Mail account is compacted. How do you do that? I only know how to compact individual folders. I think what he means is File--Compact_Folders, which goes through all of your folders. I finally found that...I'd been looking under Tools and in Preferences. But I guess now I don't know how to Compact an individual Folder... Right click the folder select 'Compact This Folder'. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Compact Folder Constant Reminder
Chris Ilias wrote: On 12-07-24 7:24 AM, Daniel wrote: Chris Ilias wrote: On 12-07-23 7:52 AM, Daniel wrote: Rufus, I hope you remember that emptying trash *doesn't* actually delete the e-mails from your inbox, That part is right. :) it just marks them for deletion and removes them from your sight. That part is not right. Emptying the trash will delete messages from your trash folder, not the inbox, then it will compact the trash folder, not the inbox. Chris, how does an e-mail get into the trash folder, so that, in your explanation above, it can be deleted from the trash folder?? When you select a message and click delete, it looks like it is being moved to the trash folder, but underneath it is really being copied to the trash folder. Looks like I caught the disease, too. So far today, I've been prompted 12 times to compact folders, and I've said yes every time, but it hasn't made a bit of difference. Half an hour later, it wants to compact again. I haven't changed any settings; the only thing new this week is that I upgraded from v. 2.10.1 to 2.11. -- War doesn't determine who's right, just who's left. -- Paul B. Gallagher ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Compact Folder Constant Reminder
NoOp wrote: On 07/24/2012 05:47 PM, Rufus wrote: Chris Ilias wrote: On 12-07-24 12:24 PM, Mike C wrote: You state above E-Mail account is compacted. How do you do that? I only know how to compact individual folders. I think what he means is File--Compact_Folders, which goes through all of your folders. I finally found that...I'd been looking under Tools and in Preferences. But I guess now I don't know how to Compact an individual Folder... Right click the folder select 'Compact This Folder'. Ahh...found it! -- - Rufus ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Default Printer for SeaMonkey
On 7/24/2012 3:49 PM Ed submitted the following: On 7/24/2012 2:53 PM Jim Taylor submitted the following: Ed wrote: On 7/24/2012 1:32 PM Ed submitted the following: On 7/24/2012 11:08 AM Jay Garcia submitted the following: D E L E T E D In your OS printers section, click on your HP Printer and select Properties. Set it as default. Then, in any OTHER application such as Word, etc. bring up a document and print. Does it use the HP default printer? Probably so. Now start Seamonkey and print. What happens now? If it still uses the PaperPort then exit Seamonkey, locate your profile and the file prefs.js - make a copy of this file. Then right-click on prefs.js (not the copy) and choose edit. find all the lines referring to printers and remove the lines. Save - Exit - restart SM. Now what happens when you print? That did it. And it added the HP printer info back into the prefs.js file. Also looking at the pref.js file there is quite a bit of garbage(?) left over from installations of extensions that are no longer in use and were not removed when removing the extensions. I assume they can also be removed? Additional: The above worked fine until I had a page I wanted to print in pdf. I went to print - selected PDFCREATOR as a printer and printed the page. Now THAT printer has been added to about:config and when exiting SM is now in the prefs.js file along with the HP printer. PDFCREATOR is now the printer that shows up in SeaMonkey as it's default printer although the system default is the HP printer. Back to square one. How did you leave print.save_print_settings? Did you leave it false or did you change it back to the default of true? Default of true. It looks like: print_printer userstring xxx gets changed each time a new printer is added to config and does not change afterwards. -- http://JonesFarm.us Powered by SeaMonkey: http://www.seamonkey-project.org/ The most disadvantageous peace is better than the most just war. -Deciderius Erasmus (1466-1536) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Compact Folder Constant Reminder
On Mon, 23 Jul 2012 21:35:21 -0700 Rufus n...@home.com wrote: »Q« wrote: Your inbox is actually a file on your hard drive, and each e-mail occupies space within that file. I'm assuming each message is it's own file/structure... The structure of each inbox message (which is just its headers and body text*) is within a single file; that's a key in understanding how moving/deletion and compacting work, which is why I mentioned it in my first sentence in this thread. ;) but now that I look through my Profile structure that seems not to be the case. :) It doesn't matter to me really just what SM does - it's just a surprise, as my primary e-mail client - Mac Mail - doesn't structure this way. Each message is an individual file. That's a newer way of doing it. There was work going on to add support for doing it that way to Thunderbird (and so I assume to SeaMonkey), and maybe that will continue. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: seamonkey 2.11 - all my addons gone! HELP
On 12-07-24 8:49 PM, Margo Guda wrote: Chris Ilias wrote: On 12-07-24 9:21 AM, Margo Guda wrote: None are listed, and the add-ons manager informs me I have NO extensions installed. In your profile folder, go to the \extensions\ folder. Are there folders for each extension you had installed? There are no folders. Why not? Maybe a new profile was created. When you lost your add-ons, did you also lose your bookmarks and history and other personal data (passwords, settings)? -- Chris Ilias http://ilias.ca Newsgroup moderator ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Compact Folder Constant Reminder
»Q« wrote: On Mon, 23 Jul 2012 21:35:21 -0700 Rufus n...@home.com wrote: »Q« wrote: Your inbox is actually a file on your hard drive, and each e-mail occupies space within that file. I'm assuming each message is it's own file/structure... The structure of each inbox message (which is just its headers and body text*) is within a single file; that's a key in understanding how moving/deletion and compacting work, which is why I mentioned it in my first sentence in this thread. ;) but now that I look through my Profile structure that seems not to be the case. :) It doesn't matter to me really just what SM does - it's just a surprise, as my primary e-mail client - Mac Mail - doesn't structure this way. Each message is an individual file. That's a newer way of doing it. There was work going on to add support for doing it that way to Thunderbird (and so I assume to SeaMonkey), and maybe that will continue. I'd be perfectly satisfied with an option to Compact all folders on exit Mail/close session - like selections for clearing Private Data. That would be easier for the team to include, and take care of the job in a more comprehensible manner. -- - Rufus ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: places.sqlite
On 7/24/2012 3:11 PM PT, David E. Ross typed: This was bug #660572. Unfortunately, others decided that this would not be implemented. See https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=660572. Thanks and bummer. :( -- When the ant grows wings it is about to die. --Arabic /\___/\ Ant(Dude) @ http://antfarm.ma.cx (Personal Web Site) / /\ /\ \Ant's Quality Foraged Links: http://aqfl.net | |o o| | \ _ /If crediting, then use Ant nickname and AQFL URL/link. ( ) If e-mailing, then axe ANT from its address if needed. Ant is currently not listening to any songs on this computer. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
