Re: SM 2.46 hangs trying to print

[Peter Nieman]

On 06/01/17 06:46, Rainer Bielefeld wrote:

I added a hint at "SeaMonkey/Troubleshooting"
.


Thanks.

That's a great wiki, BTW. I didn't even know it existed.

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Re: SM 2.46 hangs trying to print

[Peter Nieman]

On 05/01/17 20:49, Gerry Hickman wrote:

I did look at about:config and there are many settings that say "user
set", and not just related to printers, but I don't remember setting any
of them?



Neither do I. Maybe they come from the OS or from choices we made in 
some dialogs like the Print dialog? Anyway, it seems to me that the new 
SM version interprets some of these preferences differently and 
therefore chokes on them. Resetting at least those settings that refer 
to page sizes, margins etc. can't hurt, IMHO. For me at least it did 
solve the problem. (I did not have this problem on my Linux PC, by the way.)


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Re: SM 2.46 hangs trying to print

[Peter Nieman]

On 05/01/17 11:21, Rainer Bielefeld wrote:

"Bug 1328603 - Print and Print Preview most times hangs, PP shows
damaged contents if not hangs"
 ?



I ran into the same problem just an hour ago (Win7). The solution 
(inspired by the reporter of the above-mentioned bug) was to open the 
page "about:config" in the browser and reset all the printer-related 
entries marked as "user set" (except "print_printer").


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choose option to start seamonkey online or offline

[Peter Anton]

I can't for the life of me find the option to set the startup 
online/offline mode for Seamonkey 2.40 (and all previous versions.) I'm 
setting up some laptops and have looked through Preferences too many 
times to continue that vain search.  Help!


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Re: SeaMonkey 2.39b1 released

[Peter Weilbacher]

Edmund Wong wrote:

> The SeaMonkey Project is pleased to announce the release of SeaMonkey
> 2.39b1!

That's great, thanks for your continued efforts!

> For a more complete list of changes in SeaMonkey 2.39b1, see the What's
> New in SeaMonkey 2.39b1 section of the Release Notes [2]
> [2] - http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.39/

No, as for previous releases that page doesn't contain a What's New section.
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Re: Yandex search

[Peter Holsberg]

It's the second line in number 8. :-)

Mason83 wrote on 10/24/2015 7:32 AM:
> On 24/10/2015 10:14, Alexander Alexeev wrote:
> 
>> Hello!
>> Please implement the ability to select the default search on Yandex.
>> It is very important for Russian users.
>> Thank you.
> 
> http://mycroftproject.com/search-engines.html?name=yandex
> 
> Regards.
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Re: SeaMonkey Intercepts Email Requests!

[Peter Holsberg]

Daniel wrote on 10/21/2015 6:18 AM:
> On 19/10/2015 5:49 AM, Peter Holsberg wrote:
>> I have v2.28 installed on a Windows 8.1 PC.
>>
>> It is not used as the default program for anything.
>>
>> All email-related activities default to Thunderbird.
>>
>> Yet, when I try to email a PDF from within the PDF viewing application
>> -- and I've tried several -- it invokes SeaMonkey even if SeaMonkey is
>> not running.
>>
>> How do I stop SM from interfering?
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
> Have you checked the prefs for your PDF viewing application to see if 
> there is a setting in there to select your preferred mail program??

Yes. There are none.

> If you are browsing, using your preferred browser program, and you click 
> on an e-mail address, does SeaMonkey or your Thunderbird open??

TB.

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Re: cant open SM using run

[Peter Holsberg]

Exactly what are you typing in the Run box?

What other commands have you tried?

Bryan V. Roache wrote on 10/19/2015 7:41 AM:
> Hi all, I cant seem to open SM. On my windows 8.1 PC. When I use the Run 
> box every time I try to do so, it says, that it was not able to send the 
> command to windows. How do I fix this issue?
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SeaMonkey Intercepts Email Requests!

[Peter Holsberg]

I have v2.28 installed on a Windows 8.1 PC.

It is not used as the default program for anything.

All email-related activities default to Thunderbird.

Yet, when I try to email a PDF from within the PDF viewing application
-- and I've tried several -- it invokes SeaMonkey even if SeaMonkey is
not running.

How do I stop SM from interfering?

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Re: SeaMonkey 2.38 released

[Peter Weilbacher]

Edmund Wong wrote:
> The SeaMonkey Project is pleased to announce the release of SeaMonkey 2.38!

That's really great, many thanks!
If finally the 64bit Linux version would be the supported one, and I
could then use the built-in "Check for Updates", I would be really happy.

> For a more complete list of changes in SeaMonkey 2.38, see the What's
> New in SeaMonkey 2.38 section of the Release Notes [2]
[...]
> [2] - http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.38/

Huh?! Where is that "What's New" section on that page?

It does say "Please note that the 2.38 release notes will be updated as
soon as possible." but since waiting for such an update did not help for
2.35, I'm asking this time...
(I totally understand that there are too few people actively working on
the project to do everything that's necessary, but you seem to be
getting false hopes up by making statements like the above.)

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profile problems and loss of emails and local folders

[PETER]

Dear Sirs,

I request some help with a problem I have had with sea monkey and if you 
can give me some information as to why it happened and how I can recover 
lost emails and the lost contents of my local contents folders.


The situation happened when I clicked under the help menu "restart with 
add  - ons disabled" which seemed to be quire innocuous
What seems to have happened is that the profile I was using has 
disappeared and consequently all the emails both the In box and Sent  
for all email addresses and all address books and all local folders.I 
send all read emails to Local folders under different jobs and names


I have searched for various profiles in the system and the lost emails 
address books and local folders are not the ones lost.


Is there  some other place where the lost profile may have been stored 
sent or modified.


Also is it possible to do an automatic back up of the profile being used 
on a regular basis?


Also when I tried to save an address book I had saved in a CSV or excel 
file the addresses in this file saved them into a file called contacts 
and no matter what I do to and have then added to Personal Address book 
it appears to not be possible not possible.
Even to bring Personal Address Book information to contact appears to 
not be possible?


Regards

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Re: Question about Seamonkey's life plans

[Peter Nieman]

On 19/03/15 17:49, Ronnie wrote:

SoftOffice is about 300 megs same as libreoffice


Not true here. Care to tell us which version (and OS) you are talking 
about? And which components your figure includes? The professional 
version of SO comes with no less than six complete dictionaries, for 
instance. 300 MB for LibreOffice is just the base package. So please 
don't compare apples and oranges.



with a near identical
interface as libreoffice at least from the screenshots i've seen


Sure. And the moon is near identical to a cheese from the screenshots 
I've seen.

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Re: Question about Seamonkey's life plans

[Peter Nieman]

On 19/03/15 03:12, Ant wrote:

Softmaker Office is a high quality product. Fast, efficient, almost
bug-free and - unlike all the alternatives I know of - everything but
bloated. (I've been using the Linux version for many years.) So my hope
is that their commitment to Thunderbird will have a positive influence
also on the quality of the mail component in Seamonkey.


So, it is better than the free OpenOffice and LibreOffice?


When I tried OpenOffice years ago it was a beast. Extremely bloated and 
slow, and difficult to use compared to lean and polished SoftMaker. When 
I try to install LibreOffice on Debian Linux today, it tells me that it 
will consume 293 MB of disc space. That's enough of a reason for me to 
stay away from it. Softmaker Office 2008 uses about 121 MB here.

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Re: Question about Seamonkey's life plans

[Peter Nieman]

On 18/03/15 18:29, jeff.nee...@gmail.com wrote:

On Monday, March 16, 2015 at 4:46:56 PM UTC-7, Peter Nieman wrote:

Have a look at this:
http://www.softmaker.com/english/ofwtb_en.htm

Good news, I think.

p. n.


Kind of good news.  Since Softmaker Office is a paid product, I wonder if this 
will change the perception of Thunderbird as a free app.  And with different 
development tracks, how will inconsistencies between the two affect perceptions 
of Thunderbird?

Dropping eMclient is an interesting choice.  And for those of us who use Linux, 
this news really doesn't affect us.  Thanks.



Softmaker Office is a high quality product. Fast, efficient, almost 
bug-free and - unlike all the alternatives I know of - everything but 
bloated. (I've been using the Linux version for many years.) So my hope 
is that their commitment to Thunderbird will have a positive influence 
also on the quality of the mail component in Seamonkey.

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Re: Question about Seamonkey's life plans

[Peter Nieman]

On 16/03/15 01:08, Edmund Wong wrote:

jeff.nee...@gmail.com wrote:

Hi.  I hope no one takes offense at my question.

Is Seamonkey going to be around for a while?  So many software developers
drop support for their products after a period of time.  I'm investing a
lot of time and interest in Seamonkey.

Is it thought that SM will continue to be developed?  One can only
remember
Mozilla stopping development on Thunderbird and wonder about the
future of
SM.


Both SeaMonkey and Thunderbird are still in development, although now
as community projects (made up of volunteers).

AFAIK, it's still being worked on, but, I might add, it does require
more contributors (esp. in terms of coding).


Have a look at this:
http://www.softmaker.com/english/ofwtb_en.htm

Good news, I think.

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Re: Message filter problem

[Peter Nieman]

On 13/03/15 21:42, Peter Nieman wrote:

Hi,

on a Windows 7 PC running SM 2.33 we have an IMAP account for which the
provider's spam filter has been activated. The filter moves the spam to
a "spam" folder on the server.

In Seamonkey, I created a message filter for this account that is
supposed to move mail from the inbox of the server to a local folder
when "Get new messages" is clicked. At the bottom of the Message Filters
dialog I made sure that "Run selected filter(s) on:" is set to "Inbox".
However, the filter insists on also downloading the spam from the "Spam"
folder. The setting in the filter dialog seems to have no effect. Why is
that so and how can I change it?

Thanks,
p. n.


OK, I've added an exception rule now that filters on the junk score 
header. Hope that will solve the problem.


Thanks,
p. n.
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Re: Message filter problem

[Peter Nieman]

On 13/03/15 22:20, mozilla-lists.mbou...@spamgourmet.com wrote:

Peter Nieman wrote:

In Seamonkey, I created a message filter for this account that is
supposed to move mail from the inbox of the server to a local folder
when "Get new messages" is clicked. At the bottom of the Message Filters
dialog I made sure that "Run selected filter(s) on:" is set to "Inbox".


I think that option just selects the folder filters are run on if you
click the "Run Now" button.


Ah. That would explain why the spam is _not_ moved when I click "Run Now".


However, the filter insists on also downloading the spam from the "Spam"
folder. The setting in the filter dialog seems to have no effect. Why is
that so and how can I change it?


I'm not sure how to change that. From a quick search, it looks like
there are some extensions to enable filters to work on subfolders,
implying that they usually only operate on the inbox. Perhaps try
starting SeaMonkey with add-ons disabled (Help > Restart with Add-ons
Disabled) and see if filters are still applied to the spam folder?


There are almost no add-ons running on that machine. Only NoScript, and 
somehow I doubt that NoScript has something to do with it.



Does SeaMonkey filter mail from the spam folder which was received while
it's not running


Yes, that's what it does. Kind of defeats the purpose of the provider's 
spam filter.


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Message filter problem

[Peter Nieman]

Hi,

on a Windows 7 PC running SM 2.33 we have an IMAP account for which the 
provider's spam filter has been activated. The filter moves the spam to 
a "spam" folder on the server.


In Seamonkey, I created a message filter for this account that is 
supposed to move mail from the inbox of the server to a local folder 
when "Get new messages" is clicked. At the bottom of the Message Filters 
dialog I made sure that "Run selected filter(s) on:" is set to "Inbox". 
However, the filter insists on also downloading the spam from the "Spam" 
folder. The setting in the filter dialog seems to have no effect. Why is 
that so and how can I change it?


Thanks,
p. n.
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Re: Bugs in SM 2.29

[Peter Nieman]

On 14/09/14 15:25, Peter Nieman wrote:

3. In "Mail and Newsgroups Account Settings", clicking on one of the
account names in the left pane correctly shows the settings for that
account as long as you don't click on "Local Folders". Once you've done
that, the account names (the two lines at the top of the main area of
the dialog) are no longer correctly updated and clicking on another
account name after that will always give you a window saying: "An
account with this name already exists. Please enter a different account
name."


When this happens, the "Error Console" has this to say:

Timestamp: 14/09/14 20:29:56
Error: TypeError: account.defaultIdentity is null
Source File: chrome://messenger/content/AccountManager.js
Line: 1280
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Bugs in SM 2.29

[Peter Nieman]

Since upgrading to version 2.29 I have found several annoying bugs.

1. The vertical browser scroll bar disappears as soon as you try to 
scroll down. This happens on Windows 7 with the Modern theme. It does 
not happen on Windows 7 with the default theme and not on Linux with 
either theme.


The following bugs have been found on Linux:

2. In one mail account, the newest message downloaded before the update 
didn't get sorted correctly by date. "View source" did not show anything 
unusual with that message.


3. In "Mail and Newsgroups Account Settings", clicking on one of the 
account names in the left pane correctly shows the settings for that 
account as long as you don't click on "Local Folders". Once you've done 
that, the account names (the two lines at the top of the main area of 
the dialog) are no longer correctly updated and clicking on another 
account name after that will always give you a window saying: "An 
account with this name already exists. Please enter a different account 
name."


4. SM 2.29 always crashes on Youtube. I can got to Youtube and watch one 
movie, and when I click on another movie after that - or click anywhere, 
e. g. in order to close the tab, SM crashes. The funny thing is that 
this seems to only happen on Youtube. I can watch Youtube videos on 
Yandex, for instance, without problems. So the cause doesn't seem to be 
the Flash plugin.


Kind regards,
p.n.
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Update 2.26.1

[Peter Lübcke]

Hallo Support,
leider ist mein Englisch nicht so perfekt, so dass ich diese Form der 
Kontaktaufnahme wählen muss.
Ich versuche schon seit längerer Zeit den Hinweisen auf ein 
Programmupdate zu folgen (z. Zeit 2.26.1), leider kann ich dies nicht
anwenden, da ich seamonkey dann nur im abgesicherten Modus starten kann. 
Software De- und dann wieder Installieren hat nicht weiter
geholfen. Ich installiere dann die Version 2.7 und alles klappt 
wunderbar. Nur das kann ja auch nicht die beste Lösung sein, oder? Habe ich
noch irgendwo einen unerkannten Fahler aus vorhergehenden 
Installationen? Würde mich freuen von Euch zu hören.

Gruß Peter Lübcke, Villingen-Schwenningen
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Re: Cut and paste with change of profile

[Peter Percival]

David E. Ross wrote:

On 7/23/2014 9:58 AM, Peter Percival wrote:

Suppose that while using profile X I select some text in an unsent
Usenet post and control-C it.  I then change to profile Y, create a new
Usenet post, click in its body and type control-V.  I expect to get the
previously control-C'd text, but I don't.  I'm using version 2.17.1 and
it may work in later versions, but I just want to ask: is this (or was
this) a known bug?

I'm puzzled because I would have thought that control-C/control-V was a
matter of the OS (win 7 in my case) using the clipboard, and
applications had nothing to do with it.



Windows 7 (x64)
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:29.0) Gecko/20100101 SeaMonkey/2.26.1

I use Thunderbird for mail and news and have only one profile there.  I
use SeaMonkey as my Web browser and have four profiles there.

I just now went to one profile, visited a Web site, and copied a
paragraph from the displayed Web page.  I switched profiles, visited a
Web site that allows user input, and successfully pasted the paragraph
into the input area.

I know this does not really replicate your situation.  You are a Windows
user, however, and the copy function should place the copied text into
the Windows clipboard,  This means you should be able to terminate
SeaMonkey completely, relaunch SeaMonkey, and still have the text in
your Windows clipboard ready to be pasted.  Thus, I must conclude that
you did something to clear or overwrite your Windows clipboard to create
your problem.

By the way, I don't think you can CUT from a received E-mail or
newsgroup message.  I think you can only COPY.


You may be right so I tried copying.  It failed.  For some reason the 
clipboard is being cleared 'twixt one Seamonkey terminating and another 
starting.



Your problem might be
caused by a blank Windows clipboard because the Cut operation failed.
(No, I am not sure about this.  I do know that I cannot Cut from a Web
page; my Windows clipboard remains unchanged when I try.)



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Cut and paste with change of profile

[Peter Percival]

Suppose that while using profile X I select some text in an unsent 
Usenet post and control-C it.  I then change to profile Y, create a new 
Usenet post, click in its body and type control-V.  I expect to get the 
previously control-C'd text, but I don't.  I'm using version 2.17.1 and 
it may work in later versions, but I just want to ask: is this (or was 
this) a known bug?


I'm puzzled because I would have thought that control-C/control-V was a 
matter of the OS (win 7 in my case) using the clipboard, and 
applications had nothing to do with it.

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Re: Locate password

[Peter Percival]

HilsB wrote:

I have a friend and neighbour who was admitted to hospital as an
emergency and will be there for some time. He has asked me to access his
e-mails but he cannot remember his correct password. I realise this is a
difficult and unusual request but can anyone help?


Let's hope not.

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Re: How, if at all, can SM2.17.1 be made to decode yEncs?

[Peter Percival]

Ed Mullen wrote:

Peter Percival wrote:

How, if at all, can SM2.17.1 be made to decode yEncs?
The posts are binaries in multiple parts.  Can SM stitch them together
and turn them into jpegs?


See if this helps:

<http://edmullen.net/mozilla/moz_combine.php>


Thank you, I'll read that.


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How, if at all, can SM2.17.1 be made to decode yEncs?

[Peter Percival]

How, if at all, can SM2.17.1 be made to decode yEncs?
The posts are binaries in multiple parts.  Can SM stitch them together 
and turn them into jpegs?

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Re: Anybody succeeded adding the third news server?

[Peter Percival]

Poldek wrote:

When I try to add the third news server to the Seamonkey 2.24 there is
just a big mess instead. The second server name is being changed to the
name of the new server. Anyway there is no way to access any newsgroups
through this account - groups subscribed on the second server neither to
subscribe new groups on the new server. Seen this on Win XP SP3.


Same with SM2.17.1 on Win 7.

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Re: Delete and copy not working on 2.24

[Peter Nieman]

On 03/03/14 09:44, Lester Caine wrote:

Currently, message filters seem to be working and messages are moved to the 
right folder, but delete is not working, and Junk messages are being tagged, 
but not moved to 'Junk'.


I had the same problem a while ago. The solution for me was to change 
filter rules to "Filter *before* Junk Classification".


Kind regards,
p.n.
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Stopping shockwave?

[Peter]

How can SM2.17.1 be stopped from trying to run shockwave?
Also, what _is_ shockwave?
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Re: Stopping SM 2.17.1 updating itself

[Peter]

Philip Taylor wrote:



Peter wrote:


Thank you.  It's not easy to find these things if you don't know where
to look!  But here's a strange thing, under my edit/preferences/advanced
there is no software installation, there are just two tick boxes (both
unticked):


You need to expand the Advanced tab by double-clicking on it (or by
single clicking + , or any other technique that will open
up the collapsed display).


Done.  Thank you.

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Re: Stopping SM 2.17.1 updating itself

[Peter]

Philip Taylor wrote:

Edit / Preferences / Advanced / Software Installation.


Thank you.  It's not easy to find these things if you don't know where 
to look!  But here's a strange thing, under my edit/preferences/advanced 
there is no software installation, there are just two tick boxes (both 
unticked):

* Check default application settings on startup
* Submit crash reports
Odd.


Peter wrote:


Every now and then SeaMonkey 2.17.1 is automatically updated.  I.e.,
when I switch my computer on the latest version is downloaded and
installed.  I don't wish this to happen (at the very least I expect to
be asked first and have the option of declining), how can I disable this
feature?


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Stopping SM 2.17.1 updating itself

[Peter]

Every now and then SeaMonkey 2.17.1 is automatically updated.  I.e., 
when I switch my computer on the latest version is downloaded and 
installed.  I don't wish this to happen (at the very least I expect to 
be asked first and have the option of declining), how can I disable this 
feature?

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Re: Imgur.com's image not showing up in the latest Mozilla web browsers?

[Peter Boulding]

On Fri, 10 Jan 2014 17:04:13 -0800, Ant  wrote in
:

>http://imgur.com/8IFLFoJ doesn't show up in SeaMonkey and Firefox for 
>multiple users, computers, and OSes. How come? :(

Does <http://i.imgur.com/8IFLFoJ.jpg> show up?

(That's the URL of the relevant image.)


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Re: Can the profile of T-Bird be used by Seamonkey?

[Peter Taylor]

On 1/1/2014 7:52 AM, Daniel wrote:

On 01/01/14 05:13, Mike C wrote:

Peter Taylor wrote:

On 12/31/2013 6:40 PM, Chris Ilias wrote:

On 12/31/2013, 10:31 AM, Peter Taylor wrote:

On 12/30/2013 10:07 PM, Ed Mullen wrote:

Peter Taylor wrote:

I want to use T-Bird for emails other than what it is using now so I
want to know if I copy the contents of TB's profile and paste them
into
Seamonkey's profile will it work or is there a better way to do it?


Not exactly sure what you want to accomplish.

A SeaMonkey profile contains settings for things (browser, chat,
e.g.)
that don't exist in Tbird so using a TB profile in SM makes no
sense.

You could transfer your mail folders/files from TB to SM but it
sounds
like you want to set up new accounts in SM???  You'll need to clarify
what you want to accomplish.


I want Seamonkey Mail to have the mail, accounts, address book,
etc. of
TBird. Can I just use the import feature in Seamonkey mail? Also, how
would I back up Seamonkey mail? Would I have to back up all of
Seamonkey?


This article should help:
<http://seamonkey.ilias.ca/profilefaq/#fromFxTb>



That's pretty complicated. It's too bad the Seamonkey import function
won't do it.


This would work perfectly for SM back up (MozBackup).
You can choose which part of SM you wish to back up.

http://mozbackup.jasnapaka.com/

MozBackup is compatible with:
 Firefox 1.0 or newer
 Thunderbird 1.0 or newer
 Sunbird 0.3 - 0.9
 Flock 1.0 - 2.6
 Postbox (Express) 1.0 or newer
 SeaMonkey 1.0a or newer
 Mozilla Suite 1.7 - 1.7.x
 Spicebird 0.4 - 0.8
 Songbird 1.0 or newer
 Netscape 7.x, 9.x
 Wyzo

This program is freeware (even for commercial use) and works on Windows
98/ME/NT/2000/XP/2003/Vista/7.


Mike, if I read between the OP's lines, he might want to use SM to
replace both TB and FF.

If he goes the Mozbackup route, will not this result in him having a TB
prefs.js *or* a FF prefs.js in his SM profile. i.e. when
un-Mozbackup'ing the two profiles into the one profile, he will end up
with an incomplete prefs.js??



I want to replace TB with Seamonkey mail. I don't want to do anything 
with FF. IOW, I would like what I have in TB to be in Seamonkey because 
I want to use TB for other email accounts.


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Re: Can the profile of T-Bird be used by Seamonkey?

[Peter Taylor]

On 1/1/2014 12:02 AM, Ray Davison wrote:

Chris Ilias wrote:



I want Seamonkey Mail to have the mail, accounts, address book, etc. of
TBird. Can I just use the import feature in Seamonkey mail? Also, how
would I back up Seamonkey mail? Would I have to back up all of
Seamonkey?


SM and TB can share the same mail files.  Copy the mail files that you
want to use to a neutral location.  Then in mail account setup point SM
and TB to those files.  Then any recent versions of either SM or TB can
use those files, no not at the same time.

Ray




I don't want to share; I want to move what's in TB to SeaMonkey Mail.

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Re: Can the profile of T-Bird be used by Seamonkey?

[Peter Taylor]

On 12/31/2013 6:40 PM, Chris Ilias wrote:

On 12/31/2013, 10:31 AM, Peter Taylor wrote:

On 12/30/2013 10:07 PM, Ed Mullen wrote:

Peter Taylor wrote:

I want to use T-Bird for emails other than what it is using now so I
want to know if I copy the contents of TB's profile and paste them into
Seamonkey's profile will it work or is there a better way to do it?


Not exactly sure what you want to accomplish.

A SeaMonkey profile contains settings for things (browser, chat, e.g.)
that don't exist in Tbird so using a TB profile in SM makes no  sense.

You could transfer your mail folders/files from TB to SM but it sounds
like you want to set up new accounts in SM???  You'll need to clarify
what you want to accomplish.


I want Seamonkey Mail to have the mail, accounts, address book, etc. of
TBird. Can I just use the import feature in Seamonkey mail? Also, how
would I back up Seamonkey mail? Would I have to back up all of Seamonkey?


This article should help: <http://seamonkey.ilias.ca/profilefaq/#fromFxTb>



That's pretty complicated. It's too bad the Seamonkey import function 
won't do it.


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Re: What theme do you use?

[Peter Nieman]

On 28/11/13 01:40, Barry Edwin Gilmour wrote:

Peter Nieman wrote, On 11/27/2013 09:21 PM:

I'm using Modern on Linux, and I've seen a bug with that theme for
some time now concerning the behaviour of the mail toolbar buttons
(small icons). Clicking in the middle of a button opens the dropdown
menu instead of giving you the default action. If you want the default
action, you have to click near the left border of the button. Slightly
annoying, although you get used to it. I wonder whether somebody still
cares about Modern?

pn

Modern Toolbar customize "Text" gives a text-button with the
default-action, located next to the toggle-button grippy, which will
show the menu. (Modern is being maintained even better than the Default
Theme).


Yes, but I don't want "Text", I want "Icons".
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Re: What theme do you use?

[Peter Nieman]

On 27/11/13 08:33, Ed Mullen wrote:

What theme do you use?  Default? Modern?  Or some add-on?

I have used the Modern theme since it was introduced ... uh ... how many
many years ago?

I'm curious because of the cut off spell window thread that's been being
discussed and some contending that it's a problem with the theme, or so
it seems to me in some posts.

So, it would be interesting to get some sense as to what percentage of
SM users are on what theme.

http://edmullen.net/
Is it time for your medication or mine?


I'm using Modern on Linux, and I've seen a bug with that theme for some 
time now concerning the behaviour of the mail toolbar buttons (small 
icons). Clicking in the middle of a button opens the dropdown menu 
instead of giving you the default action. If you want the default 
action, you have to click near the left border of the button. Slightly 
annoying, although you get used to it. I wonder whether somebody still 
cares about Modern?


pn
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Re: Adobe PDF Viewer Addon

[Peter Anton]

Paul,

*Update Now* gave me the error page that I quoted.  That's why I'm so 
confused.  There seems to be no straightforward and productive route to 
a workable addon.  I'd like to hear details from those who have a 
working system.  In the end, all I really have to do is download the 
PDFs and view them in my standalone viewer installation.  But, it's the 
principle of the thing: I'd just like a browser with addons that work.


Paul B. Gallagher wrote:
Version 9.5.1. is nowhere near the latest version. The current version 
is Version XI (11.0.04): . You would be 
have been taken there if you had clicked "Update Now."


The date October 5, 2012 is when the block was imposed.

If you prefer, there are other PDF viewers, but I can't provide an 
exhaustive list. Google is your friend.


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Adobe PDF Viewer Addon - Same question for Shockwave Flash AND Fox-It

[Peter Anton]

OK, I'm doing some serious housekeeping in my Addons area.  I tried to 
open an eGreeting card and just getting a black screen where a something 
(a video?) should be.  Shockwave shows the same error in the Addon 
page.  Is it them (rather than SM) also?  Is there a Shockwave/Flash 
alternative?  And Fox-It seems to be the same, but different because I 
can't even find it in three pages of addon search for "fox-it".


This message when trying to Update Shockwave Flash:


 *Flash Player Plugin 10.2.* and lower (click-to-play)* has been
 blocked for your protection.

Why was it blocked?

Old versions of the Flash Player plugin are potentially insecure and 
unstable. All users are strongly recommended to check for updates at our 
plugin check page .


Who is affected?
All users who have these versions of the Flash plugin installed in 
*Firefox 18* and above.

   *(BTW, How do Firefox and Seamonkey version numbers compare for
   currency?)*

What does this mean?
The problematic add-on or plugin will be automatically disabled and no 
longer usable.



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Adobe PDF Viewer Addon

[Peter Anton]

Can someone explain the following page for me?  I get it when I click 
on  the message on the Plugins tab of about:addons.


"Adobe Acrobat is known to be vulnerable and should be updated _*Update 
Now_*"



 *Adobe Reader 9.5.1 and lower* has been blocked for your protection.

Why was it blocked?
This plugin is outdated and is potentially insecure. Affected users 
should go to the plugin check page  
and update to the latest version.


Who is affected?
All Firefox users who have this plugin installed.

What does this mean?
The problematic add-on or plugin will be automatically disabled and no 
longer usable. When Mozilla becomes aware of add-ons, plugins, or other 
third-party software that seriously compromises SeaMonkey security, 
stability, or performance and meets certain criteria 
, the software may be blocked from 
general use. For more information, please read this support article 
.


Blocked on October 5, 2012. View block request 
.



Am I to understand that there hasn't been a new version since October 5, 
2012?

Is Ver. 9.5.1 the most recent version of Acrobat?
Is there a version of Acrobat that works with Seamonkey?
Should I use another PDF viewer?

I can't view PDFs in Seamonkey and this report page raises more 
questions for me than it answers.



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Re: Pink email background?

[Peter Anton]

Actually it borders on fuchsia... I like! (Once, anyway...) Glitch?  Or 
significant date?  Breast cancer awareness?  Other?



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Re: Flash Crashes

[Peter]

Sam Cook wrote:

Win8.1 on new Dell Laptop SM2.21 will not run Flash. It always
crashes or refuses to run.
Anybody know what is wrong?


Win 8.1, SM2.21, Flash, hmm where to begin?

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Re: 2.21 doesn't check spelling as you type.

[Peter]

Rick Merrill wrote:

Peter wrote:

2.21 doesn't check spelling as you type.

What compose mode do you use: plain text or HTML?


Plain text.


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2.21 doesn't check spelling as you type.

[Peter]

2.21 doesn't check spelling as you type.
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LastPass addon ...

[Peter Anton]

LastPass addon hasn't worked since SM ver. 1.15.1.  I'dlike to upgrade 
SM but I like LPso I haven't yet. Last time this happened, it was ironed 
out a short time after SM's 1.15.1 version came out. I don't know which 
app to blame; all I know is that SM reports that LP is incompatible. 
Anyone using LastPass password vault and having problems or finding 
solutions?

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Re: Add-ons

[Peter Nieman]

On 16/08/13 17:32, David E. Ross wrote:

about:config -> plugins.click_to_play -> true



How about a user-oriented interface?


Don't ask me. I'm just a user.
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Re: Weird Happenings

[Peter Nieman]

On 16/08/13 12:29, Mr. Ed wrote:

After installing PrefBar 6.2.1 Build 20130722 with SeaMonkey 2.20 a
couple of weird things are happening.

When checking boxes in PrefBar for Java and Flash to "OFF" (no check in
box)and then going to another window or url or tab these two boxes are
automatically turned back "ON".

Anyone else see this?


Yes. The problem has been discussed here:
http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?f=48&t=2731475&p=12991001
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Re: Add-ons

[Peter Nieman]

On 15/08/13 13:46, W3BNR wrote:

How about a choice 'Ask to Activate'?


Exists.

about:config -> plugins.click_to_play -> true
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Broken link

[A. Peter Algover]

  
  
This link appears to be broken:
http://kb.mozillazine.org/Moving_your_profile_folder

It comes from:
  http://www.seamonkey-project.org/doc/profiles "Moving
  Profiles"
  
      A Peter Algover

  
  

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Re: SeaMonkey v2.17.1 is out.

[Peter Nieman]

On 18/04/13 20:51, Rufus wrote:

Rufus wrote:

Peter Nieman wrote:

On 18/04/13 02:55, Rufus wrote:

I've gotten one .css mod to work for me - fixing the narrow scroll bar
in the Sidebar.  That's working great, but I haven't been able to get
the recently posted one to remove unwanted Bookmarks Menu entries to do
anything at all.


The following in userChrome.css eventually worked for me:

menu[label="Bookmarks Toolbar"],
menu[label="Unsorted Bookmarks"]
{
display: none !important;
}

Doesn't remove the superfluous separator, though.

pn


Thanks - I'll try this, but omitting the removal of the Bookmarks
Toolbar - I use that but try and hold it to half a dozen or so entries.
  Retaining the separator will be ok for me in that case.



no joy...didn't work.  Could that be because my Unsorted Bookmarks
are empty, or that I placed it at the wrong point in my userChome.css?



I doubt that that could be the cause. My Unsorted Bookmarks are empty 
too. Maybe it only works on Linux?


By the way, I have these lines at the top of my userChrome.css (without 
the line breaks):


/*
 * Do not remove the @namespace line -- it's required for correct 
functioning

 */
@namespace 
url("http://www.mozilla.org/keymaster/gatekeeper/there.is.only.xul";); /* 
set default namespace to XUL */


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Re: SeaMonkey v2.17.1 is out.

[Peter Nieman]

On 18/04/13 02:55, Rufus wrote:

I've gotten one .css mod to work for me - fixing the narrow scroll bar
in the Sidebar.  That's working great, but I haven't been able to get
the recently posted one to remove unwanted Bookmarks Menu entries to do
anything at all.


The following in userChrome.css eventually worked for me:

menu[label="Bookmarks Toolbar"],
menu[label="Unsorted Bookmarks"]
{
display: none !important;
}

Doesn't remove the superfluous separator, though.

pn
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Re: Plugin Finder Error

[Peter Anton]

Subject:
Re: Plugin Finder Error
From:
"Paul B. Gallagher" 
Date:
3/28/2013 10:09 PM

To:
support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org


Peter Anton wrote:


What's the deal with this error.  I have yet to complete the search and
I'd like to get Flash and Acrobat up to date and running.  They are both
disabled due to security concerns.

https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/plugincheck/


  Plugin Finding Service Error

We've encountered an error. Please try your request again later.

Retry


WFM. Must've been a temporary glitch.

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=

What does WFM mean?

Does "temporary" mean every time I try it, day after day?

Is there another way to do this?  Maybe everyone in the world is trying 
to get updates to this new security block through plugincheck.


Oh, and in about:data for mozilla.org under Permissions, the 
"addons.mozilla.org  sts/subd" is changed from Allow to Block.  I change 
it back to Allow and it changes back to Block.


I have NEVER had this much trouble with my addons/plugins.

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Re: unwanted bookmark entries

[Peter Nieman]

On 31/03/13 03:10, »Q« wrote:

I never asked anything about toolbars, Phil, I wanted to delete
stuff I don't use from the Bookmarks dropdown list.  It should be
possible in the BM but isn't.


IIUC, those 'folders' are just database queries which aren't
performed unless you click on them, so there's not anything to
delete.

If you don't want to see them in the drop-down, userChrome.css
will do it. E.g,

 #unsortedBookmarksFolderMenu { display: none ! important; }


...no joy.  But if there really is a way to make this work using
CSS, I'm listening!


WFM,


that did not WFM either.  SM2.16.2  OSX 10.6


Did you try it with Stylish?


Wouldn't it make more sense to ship a lean product and tell people that 
they can add bloat to it by installing extensions than shipping a 
bloated product and telling people that they can get rid of some of the 
bloat by installing extensions?


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Re: unwanted bookmark entries

[Peter Nieman]

On 30/03/13 06:04, Rufus wrote:

Geoff Welsh wrote:

Which is awfully silly.  I can see giving us suggestions in a new
profile's blank Bookmarks list, but not being able to remove folders we
decide we don't want is irritating.
GW


Yes...and I can say the same for Unsorted Bookmarks.  Which gets to
another of the reasons why I think SM 1.1.19 was the last best release
of SM to ever come down the pike, from a user standpoint.


Couldn't agree more.
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Plugin Finder Error

[Peter Anton]

What's the deal with this error.  I have yet to complete the search and 
I'd like to get Flash and Acrobat up to date and running.  They are both 
disabled due to security concerns.


https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/plugincheck/


 Plugin Finding Service Error

We've encountered an error. Please try your request again later.

Retry


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Re: Plugin sandboxing?

[Peter Nieman]

On 25/03/13 12:20, Philip TAYLOR wrote:

"A butterfly flaps its wings in Beijing
and a typhoon results in Oklahama".


That's a pretty accurate description of what I'm seeing with plugins and 
Seamonkey almost every day now.

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Re: LastPass addon suddenly not compatible with SM v2.14 (Daniel)

[Peter Anton]

Thanky, Daniel!  That did the trick!
And the turnaround was really quick.

Peter

Peter Anton wrote:

I have recently started using LastPass(.com - The Last Password you'll
have to remember) to manage all my passwords.  It is really quite a good
system.  So I was disappointed to be informed that it will no longer
work with SM 2.14.  Can anyone tell me what was changed that might be
causing this?  And what I can do to get it running again?

PeterA


Didn't I read somewhere that this site was working in SM 2.14.1?? If 
so, upgrading should fix your problem, Peter.




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LastPass addon suddenly not compatible with SM v2.14

[Peter Anton]

I have recently started using LastPass(.com - The Last Password you'll 
have to remember) to manage all my passwords.  It is really quite a good 
system.  So I was disappointed to be informed that it will no longer 
work with SM 2.14.  Can anyone tell me what was changed that might be 
causing this?  And what I can do to get it running again?


PeterA
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Virus in Seamonkey 2.13.1 updater?

[Peter & Nancy]

Hi,
Seamonkey 2.12 just auto-updated to Seamonkey 2.13.1 and Norton Internet Security detected (and removed) a virus!
Program Files\Seamonkey\nssckbi.dll allegedly contained Suspicious.Cloud.7.F upon launching your downloader update.
I think you need & want to check this out immediately, or forward it to somebody/everybody who should be involved.
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Re: YouTube.com starts using HTML5 and not Flash?

[Peter Taylor]

On 10/18/2012 11:34 AM, Daniel wrote:

PhillipJones wrote:

Daniel wrote:

Peter Taylor wrote:

On 10/16/2012 6:05 PM, Ed Mullen wrote:

Peter Taylor wrote:

On 10/14/2012 9:18 PM, Ant wrote:

Hello.

Has anyone noticed that today? I am getting some HTML5 videos, and
not
Flash in my Mozilla's SeaMonkey v2.13.1 web browsers (similiar to
the
latest Firefox web browsers)! I need a HTML5 video blocker like
FlashBlock. Ugh! :(

I need a HTML5 video blocker like FlashBlock. Ugh! Does one even
exist?

Thank you in advance. :)


Can you provide a You Tube video in HTML5 so I can test?



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tYrND5hMY3A

Oddly, I get no audio in SeaMonkey but I do in Firefox. In SM I DO
have
audio on Flash videos. Hmm.



I get audio with both. It also works fine in IE and Chrome.



Shock!! Horror!! I've *got* sound...often I don't get sound!!

User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686 on x86_64; rv:15.0)
Gecko/20120909 SeaMonkey/2.12.1 Build identifier: 20120909051705


I was able using Chrome to here the following video in html 5 :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xj8DwSuoUow&feature=g-vrecwebm-1

SeaMonkey and FF Mac no. I am missing th H264 codec  I do have the h.264

Here is a sample video that works in ff17:

http://www.youtube.com/embed/XlyCLbt3Thk?rel=0webm-1.
I did notice

Doesn't work in the latest SM.



I get sound on both those links, Phillip, but then

User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686 on x86_64; rv:15.0)
Gecko/20120909 SeaMonkey/2.12.1 Build identifier: 20120909051705



So do I with FF 16.01 and Windows 7.

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Re: YouTube.com starts using HTML5 and not Flash?

[Peter Taylor]

On 10/16/2012 6:05 PM, Ed Mullen wrote:

Peter Taylor wrote:

On 10/14/2012 9:18 PM, Ant wrote:

Hello.

Has anyone noticed that today? I am getting some HTML5 videos, and not
Flash in my Mozilla's SeaMonkey v2.13.1 web browsers (similiar to the
latest Firefox web browsers)! I need a HTML5 video blocker like
FlashBlock. Ugh! :(

I need a HTML5 video blocker like FlashBlock. Ugh! Does one even exist?

Thank you in advance. :)


Can you provide a You Tube video in HTML5 so I can test?



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tYrND5hMY3A

Oddly, I get no audio in SeaMonkey but I do in Firefox.  In SM I DO have
audio on Flash videos.  Hmm.



I get audio with both. It also works fine in IE and Chrome.

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Re: YouTube.com starts using HTML5 and not Flash?

[Peter Taylor]

On 10/14/2012 9:18 PM, Ant wrote:

Hello.

Has anyone noticed that today? I am getting some HTML5 videos, and not
Flash in my Mozilla's SeaMonkey v2.13.1 web browsers (similiar to the
latest Firefox web browsers)! I need a HTML5 video blocker like
FlashBlock. Ugh! :(

I need a HTML5 video blocker like FlashBlock. Ugh! Does one even exist?

Thank you in advance. :)


Can you provide a You Tube video in HTML5 so I can test?

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Re: Can't update

[Peter Nieman]

On 11/10/12 15:42, WaltS wrote:

Why do you want to start SeaMonkey as root? Do you like living dangerously.


I don't USE Seamonkey as root. I start it as root for updating because I 
don't have write access to /usr/local/ as a normal user.


p.
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Can't update

[Peter Nieman]

When I start Seamonkey as root (on Linux) I am sent to 
"http://www.seamonkey-project.org/start/"; which says: "Warning! You're 
using an old stable version of SeaMonkey".
When I then click Help -> Check for Updates... I get: "No Updates Found 
- There are no updates available".

Why?
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Re: SM 2.10 under Linux does not find its shared libraries

[Peter Nieman]

On 15/06/12 00:33, MCBastos wrote:

Well, I couldn't reproduce the behavior you describe. It worked
perfectly for me, with no undesired borders at all. Code below:

http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/strict.dtd";>



   

   Testcase
   

   



   




Hm. I do see the bug with your test case, with any image size. When I 
resize the browser window in small steps the thin black lines around the 
image appear and disappear.


As I said, the problem first appeared years ago after improvements to 
Gecko had been announced (faster rendering), and I also think I saw bug 
reports about it at that time.


Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:13.0) Gecko/20120604 SeaMonkey/2.10
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Re: SM 2.10 under Linux does not find its shared libraries

[Peter Nieman]

On 13/06/12 19:30, Jochen Roderburg wrote:

New versions, new features, new bugs.
Same procedure as every year.


I guess you meant "as every month" (or "week" perhaps). ;-)

I'd love to see a new version that doesn't offer any new features but 
fixes some of the very old bugs, actually. Even the rendering engine 
still has such bugs. For instance:


Make a small image and display it on a page. When you change the size of 
the browser window, you will always see the image the same way, i. e. 
without a border. Now add this to the html file, giving the image an 
"id" of "img":




Depending on the size of the browser window, the image will now be shown 
with a black border at the bottom, a black border at the right, a black 
border at the bottom and the right, or no black border at all. This has 
been so for years, and I bet there's more than one bug open for it.


p.n.
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Re: XPCOMGlueLoad error

[Peter Nieman]

On 12/06/12 17:47, Jens Hatlak wrote:

Sounds like the following, which will be fixed in SM 2.10.1:

<https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=762621>


Thanks!

Peter
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Re: XPCOMGlueLoad error

[Peter Nieman]

On 11/06/12 01:49, NoOp wrote:

Looks like there is some added info in today's "SM 2.10 under Linux does
not find its shared libraries"


Yes. Thanks for pointing it out to me.

Strange that nobody seems to know what caused bug 723487...

p.n.
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Re: SeaMonkey 2.10 released

[Peter Nieman]

On 08/06/12 04:23, Robert Kaiser wrote:

Peter Nieman schrieb:

And the purpose of that is what?


Educating users about what part of this monstrosity called "Address" is
actually important in terms of making sure you are visiting what you
think you are visiting.
https://www.paypal.com.cgi-bin.webscr.cmd.login-run.evil.com (yes, I
have seen such addresses in actual spam mail) and
https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_login-run are completely
different sites owned by different entities. Many people won't make out
the difference unless you display them differently. Making "evil.com"
stand out in one example and "paypal.com" in the other is something that
can help there.


OK, so let's hope that users innocent enough to be fooled by such 
addresses will look at the highlighting and draw the right conclusions 
from it. (With "evil.com" it might actually work ;-)

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Re: SeaMonkey 2.10 released

[Peter Nieman]

On 07/06/12 19:42, Hartmut Figge wrote:

The domain heise.de is black and the rest of the address is gray.


And the purpose of that is what?
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XPCOMGlueLoad error

[Peter Nieman]

Sigh!

Updated to 2.10 and Seamonkey failed to start. Error message:

XPCOMGlueLoad error for file /usr/local/seamonkey-2.0/libxpcom.so:
libxul.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
Couldn't load XPCOM.

This is on Debian Linux (stable).

Fortunately, I found a solution by googling with another computer. The 
solution is to start Seamonkey from a script that contains the line:


export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/local/seamonkey-2.0:$LD_LIBRARY_PATH

Could this be an effect of the "fix" for "bug" 722262?

Updating has definitely become an adventure since the decision was taken 
to "release often". It's a pity, really!


p.n.
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Re: Dragging URLs into bookmarks toolbar in 2.10

[Peter]

Gabriel wrote:

On 25/05/12 06.59, Pete ha scritto:

Is anyone else having trouble dragging URLs from the address field
onto the
bookmarks toolbar or into folders on the bookmarks toolbar in v2.10?  By
trouble, I mean that it doesn't work...


You're right, it doesn't work :(


I'm almost certain that the problem arose between 2.10b1 and 2.10b2.

Peter
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Re: movemail bug on Linux

[Peter Nieman]

On 29/04/12 20:36, Jens Hatlak wrote:

Peter Nieman wrote:

<https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=748593>


This will most probably be fixed in SM 2.9.1 (ETA tomorrow).


Great! Thanks a lot!

pn
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movemail bug on Linux

[Peter Nieman]

Hi,

Since upgrading to SM version 2.9 I'm seeing what appears to be bug 748593.

This bug is marked "unconfirmed". If a kind person with a bugzilla 
account wants to confirm it for Seamonkey on Linux in my name, please do so.
The message I receive is empty in the sense that it doesn't actually 
exist. There's nothing in .../Mail/Local Folders/Inbox. Just an entry in 
the Mail/News header pane (or however you call it) like that:

Subject ""
From""
Date"01/01/70 01:00"
Size"0.1 KB"
As Joshua Root said in the bug report, compacting folders etc. doesn't 
help. Neither does deleting msf files manually.


It's a pity, by the way, that Seamonkey seems to be getting buggier and 
buggier.


Regards,
pn
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Re: More on unexplained SM 'hangs'?

[Peter]

This hang is caused by SM 'helpfully' calculating how much disk space
you would save if you compacted all your folders after you just deleted
something.

Go to Preferences > Mail & Newsgroups > Network & Storage
and untick "Compact folders when it will save".
Then it won't do it any more.


Unfortunately, it still does it for me.  I've tried this suggestion, and 
the earlier one about deleting the trash.msf files, and neither seem to 
have made any difference at all.


Peter
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Seamonkey hangups

[Peter]

I use three computers regularly, and all have the hangup problem where 
Seamonkey stops responding for up to 30 seconds at a time for no 
apparent reason.  I've actually had to stop using Seamonkey on one of 
the computers now, because the frozen to usable ratio is too high to get 
anything done.


I believe that Seamonkey is busy doing something that it thinks is too 
important to give up CPU cycles to the user.


I've seen lots of people reporting similar problems - is there anything 
that we can do to help find a solution?  Perhaps some way of us 
determining what Seamonkey is actually doing when it hangs?


Peter
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SeaMonkey 2.5 regularly freezes for several seconds

[Peter]

I've got 2.5 installed on three different computers, and they're all 
experiencing the exact same problem - SeaMonkey freezes for several 
seconds (up to maybe 15 seconds at a time sometimes) very very 
frequently.  It's incredibly frustrating!


One of the computers runs XP, the other two run Win7.  The XP and one of 
the Win7 computers sync with each other; the other Win7 computer is 
completely separate.  All three have very large bookmark files, and 
large email folders.


While SeaMonkey is frozen, the rest of the computer seems fine - I can 
switch to another task or window and that seems to run fine.  It's 
SeaMonkey with the problem, not the computer(s).


It seems that SeaMonkey is off doing something that it thinks is 
uninterruptable and far too important to let me use it.  How can I work 
out exactly what it is doing so that I can try to do something about it?


I believe I've had this problem for the last couple of releases, but I 
can't recall exactly when it started.


Regards, Peter
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Re: A plea for a return to sanity in new version release scheduling

[Peter Boulding]

On Thu, 18 Aug 2011 04:25:31 -0500, Ron Hunter  wrote
in :

>On 8/17/2011 9:54 PM, Peter Boulding wrote:
>> On Wed, 17 Aug 2011 14:33:59 -0700, Sailfish
>>   wrote in
>> :
>>
>> [mozilla.support.seamonkey,mozilla.support.firefox reinserted]
>>
>>> A quick search of this newsgroup would have shown you that this topic
>>> has been brought up several times and deemed OFF-TOPIC for this
>>> newsgroup.
>>
>> "Has been deemed?"  You should listen to yourself.
>>
>> The current "let's replace version numbers with 'up to date' or 'not up to
>> date' and sod add-ons" idiocy is so stunningly crass and so rightly
>> controversial that it's going to get discussed *everywhere* whether you like
>> it or not... and no amount of "off topic here there and everywhere else
>> apart from the Free Speech Zone we set up well away from the building" is
>> going to stop it.
>>
>It is such an earth-shatteringly important thing, right?

Look where it's going: 

<https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=678775>

Money quote:
"It is part of the phasing out of version numbers in Firefox that's already
well under way (though still incomplete.)"


-- 
Regards,   Peter Boulding
pjbne...@unspampboulding.co.uk (to e-mail, remove "UNSPAM")
Fractal Images and Music: http://www.pboulding.co.uk/
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Re: A plea for a return to sanity in new version release scheduling

[Peter Boulding]

On Wed, 17 Aug 2011 14:33:59 -0700, Sailfish
 wrote in
:

[mozilla.support.seamonkey,mozilla.support.firefox reinserted]

>A quick search of this newsgroup would have shown you that this topic 
>has been brought up several times and deemed OFF-TOPIC for this 
>newsgroup.

"Has been deemed?"  You should listen to yourself. 

The current "let's replace version numbers with 'up to date' or 'not up to
date' and sod add-ons" idiocy is so stunningly crass and so rightly
controversial that it's going to get discussed *everywhere* whether you like
it or not... and no amount of "off topic here there and everywhere else
apart from the Free Speech Zone we set up well away from the building" is
going to stop it. 

-- 
Regards,   Peter Boulding
pjbne...@unspampboulding.co.uk (to e-mail, remove "UNSPAM")
Fractal Images and Music: http://www.pboulding.co.uk/
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Seamonkey Password Manager behaviour

[Peter Brown]

Hi All

I'm using Mozilla/5.0 (OS/2; Warp 4.5; rv:2.0.1) Gecko/20110604 
Firefox/4.0.1 SeaMonkey/2.1pre - actually 2.1rc2


I've only just become aware of that Password Manager is now a bit more 
of a pain than it used to be. I must admit that I'm not sure when the 
changes occurred though.


It used to be possible to display all stored passwords by clicking the 
"Show Passwords" button. Now that only works for the currently 
highlighted website.


Is there any way of reverting to the previous behaviour? - or adding a 
"Show ALL Passwords" button?


I ask because I just needed to check several passwords and had to do the 
"Show Passwords" and then click "Yes" in the Confirm dialog for each 
entry I wanted to check.


Regards

Pete
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Lost Address Book when installing 2.0.9

[Peter Gillingham]

Warning. When I Installed Seamonkey 2.0.9, I lost my Addressbook, and 
all mail. I understood these items would NOT be lost when upgrading. I 
have returned to 2.0.8. Pete.

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can't load new version

[Peter Anton]

I don't know which older version you were using, but you have to 
COMPLETELY remove (uninstall) Version 1 of Seamonkey before installing 
Version 2.  Versions 1 and 2 are incompatible.  Even if you install them 
into different locations, there are some common file locations that will 
overlap and cause conflicts.  I would even look in /Program Files/ and 
/Document and Settings/.../Application Data/ to be sure there aren't any 
residual configuration files left behind.



Subject: Can't load new version
From:
"Gary F. Pitel" 
Date:
Tue, 06 Jul 2010 12:12:50 -0400

To:
support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org


I had an older version of SeaMonkey installed and it told me that the 
folder was full that I had to delete some files and compact the folder 
which I did. However, after I did that it still kept saying the same 
thing. I thought I would just load the latest version of SeaMonkey which 
I did and that would correct the problem. So I did that and it asked me 
if I wanted to load that version now and I said yes. It never launched 
so I clicked on the desk icon and it wouldn't launched from that either. 
I went to the installation folder where it is installed it shows the 
icon (SeaMonkey.exe) with a date from the old installation and not a 
date of this installation. However there are other folders there that 
show today's date on them so I know there was an installation that took 
place.
What is going on and how do I fix the problem? I also clicked on the 
icon (SeaMonkey.exe) in this folder and it didn't launched the program. 
This icon has the old installation date and not the new installation 
date. I tried to do a new installation and that didn't make any 
difference. PS I don't want to lose my existing emails or folders in 
correcting this problem if at all possible. Right now I have nothing in 
the way of SeaMonkey. Thanks



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Subject:

[Peter Anton]

Subject:
Re: SM2.1 nightly SSL error renegotiation not allowed
From:
Mark Hansen 
Date:
Fri, 19 Feb 2010 08:18:00 -0800

To:
support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org


On 2/19/2010 6:57 AM, dominique wrote:


>  dominique wrote, On 2/19/2010 10:28 AM:
   

>>  Hello all,
>>
>>  I use the SM2.1 nightlies at work and since a few days I get the
>>  following error when login to my company portal:
>>
>>  Secure Connection Failed
>>  An error occurred during a connection to login.portal..com.
>>  Renegotiation is not allowed on this SSL socket.
>>  (Error code: ssl_error_renegotiation_not_allowed)
>>
>>  As far as I know, nothing has changed there, nor in the certificates I
>>  use (mine and the cert authority, which is in this case my company).
>>
>>  When I use Firefox 3.6, I don't get the error, although I have the same
>>  certificates setup.
>>
>>  Any hint regarding the cause ? anything I can do to avoid this issue ?
>>  Thanks for the help
>>
>>  Dom,
>>  (and yes, I must be brave at heart to use the nightlies for my work:-)  )
 
>  
>  Mmm, I guess a little goolging never hurts:

>  https://developer.mozilla.org/NSS_3.12.5_release_notes
>  
>  All SSL3/TLS renegotiation is disabled by default in NSS 3.12.5, which

>  is used in bleeding-edge Mozilla stuff...
>  Good to know...
>  
>  Is there a way to disable this feature for a domain, a destination ?

>  temporarily ?
>  
>  I see there that " If an application depends on renegotiation feature,

>  it can be enabled by setting the environment variable
>  NSS_SSL_ENABLE_RENEGOTIATION to 1. By setting this environmental
>  variable, the fix provided by these patches will have no effect and the
>  application may become vulnerable to the issue."
>  
>  How can I set this environment variable ? is there a preference to set

>  inabout:config  ?
>  
>  thanks to all (and thanks to all the developers for Seamonkey !!)

>  Dominique
   

Environment variables are set outside of SeaMonkey. How/where you set
them depends on your operating system. For example, if you're running
Windows/XP, one way is to right click on the My Computer desktop icon
and select Properties. Then click on the Advanced tab, then the
Environment Variables button.

On this page, you can set the Environment variable for the logged-in
user, or for all users (system variables). Note that if you set it
for the logged-in user, you may need to log out and back in for the
setting to take effect.

Best Regards,


My reply:

I posted a question several days ago about my SSL proxy function not working properly.  I 
use a proxy accelerator for my dialup connection.  Even though I have the SSL set in the 
Advanced section, I still get a proxy error when visiting secure sites.  I have to set 
SSL sites as "No proxy for:" in the proxy settings rendering them 
non-accelerated.

Is there a WindowsXP environment variable that addresses general SSL 
connections other than the SSL renegotiation variable mentioned above?  And 
where can I find a listing of WindowsXP environment variables so I am sure to 
use the correct coding?  Perhaps this is the solution to my problem until SM 
comes out with an update that fixes this.  I am downloading ver. 2.0.3 as we 
speak and maybe this will offer some relief.

Any comments appreciated.

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Re: Somewhat afraid to make the change from 1.1.8 to new SeaMonkey

[Peter Anton]

I rushed into ver.2 without unistalling ver.1.18 or learning about any 
installation procedures or command line parameters and royally screwed things 
up.  I had to reinstall WinXP because of disk file errors.  I routinely 
reinstall XP anyway so it wasn't a super big deal, but I lost all my address 
book entries and bookmarks and had to redownload months of emails from the 
server.  Now I'm using ver.2 and am not happy with all the bugs.  Not sure 
whether to stick with Seamonkey or shift over to Firefox or Opera and 
Thunderbird.  For the moment I'm just hanging in there on the hope that SM2 
will eventually even out.  And that's assuming that it will be supported 
adequately by most websites.

I'd be glad to hear what others are planning to do in this uncertain situation.


Mark Hansen wrote:


>  SeaMonkey will make sure no other instances are running, to make
>  sure you don't hurt yourself. However, you can run SM 2.X while
>  an instance of SM 1.1.X is running, by passing a special command-line
>  parameter - which I'm drawing a blank on at the moment. Perhaps
>  someone else will chime-in and provide it. It's something like --no-remote
>  (I think).
   

Close, it's "-no-remote" (only one leading minus) actually.;-)

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Proxy settings in V.2.0.2

[Peter Anton]

I've just started reading about people's bad experiences with SM2.  The 
"unkillable" thing happened to me, but I clicked the icon again and it 
worked OK the second time.


My problem involves proxy settings.  I have a dialup connection with a 
proxy accelerator.  The proxy address is localhost or 127.0.0.1 with a 
port value of 5403.  Normally, the accelerator software makes all the 
proper settings when it is installed, but I started having problems 
reaching certain sites.  I realized that it was SSL (https:) sites that 
weren't working.  All the settings under Preferences/Proxy/Advanced were 
as they should be and I tried many different combinations of the 
settings with no success.  I am temporarily using the "No Proxy for" 
field to exclude SSL sites I need to visit, but would like to have 
acceleration for them and will soon get tired of entering new URLs into 
the exclusion box.


Any thoughts, solutions or explanations?
Thanks
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Re: Missing LPR command dialog in Seamonkey 2/very basic Linux

[Peter Nieman]

On 04/02/10 11:40, Miro wrote:

Seamonkey 2.0.x seems to ignore most of these, and does not recognize
any printer, only presents the possibility Print to File.


For me (Debian user), the solution was to add the following line to the 
file ".gtkrc-2.0" in my home directory:


gtk-print-backends = "lpr,file"

Create a new file with that name and content, if it does not exist.

However, Seamonkey does not remember any changes to the printing command 
you might wish to make in the print dialog. I think that's a known bug 
(in GTK perhaps).


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SeaMonkey 2.0.1 won't print emails

[Peter]

SeaMonkey 2.0.1 won't print emails, or anything.

Can anyone help please?..

http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?f=40&t=1661975&start=0

Thank you.

Peter
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Re: Print icon in mail/newsgroup reader

[Peter Guttorp]

THanks! Shift-click for Mac users.
peter

S. Beaulieu wrote:

Peter Guttorp a écrit :

How do I get a print button to show up in the message pane? I can't find
anything about it in the documentation.
peter


Right-click on the Mail toolbar and pick Customize. Then simply drag and
drop the proper icon.

S.

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Print icon in mail/newsgroup reader

[Peter Guttorp]

How do I get a print button to show up in the message pane? I can't find 
anything about it in the documentation.

peter
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Re: Sorting options in SM and FF

[Peter Weilbacher]

On 06/11/09 07:26, James Moe wrote:

   Is there some way to apply a set of sort options to all of the folders
in an account at one go?
   Every time SM (or TB) goes through a major transition the sort setting
reverts to its default and I have to go through dozens of folders
individually setting the options in each one.
   The same annoyance applies to adding SM or TB on another computer.


Perhaps someone in the support group has an idea. Crossposting there.
   Peter.
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Re: Migrating a Profile

[Peter Nieman]

On 29/10/09 21:41, desertgal wrote:

So what am I doing wrong. I installed SM2, started it & got no migration
wizard. I've tried the manual migration as stated above several times &
still no migration wizard. I can get profile manager, but no way to
import profiles & from what I've read just copying the old stuff from
1.1.18 into the folder doesn't work. Any more suggestions.


When I installed SM2 on a WinXP machine today, I didn't get the 
migration wizard either. I uninstalled SM1 without removing its profile, 
then installed SM2 and the wizard didn't come up. "seamonkey -migration" 
didn't work either.


The solution for me was to uninstall SM2, then install SM1 again and 
after that install SM2 WITHOUT uninstalling SM1 first. That made the 
wizard come up. After that, I could unistall SM1.

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Re: New SeaMonkey 2 -- Questions

[Peter Lee]

I uninstalled 1.1.14 leaving profile intact & then installed 2.0. On 
first start of 2.0 everything transferred perfectly from my old profile 
[& left the old folders intact].


Seamonkey 2.0 is working flawlessly & more quickly than previous version 
[Win XP SP2].


What a great job the many dedicated Seamonkey developers have done. 
Because, in addition to my paid employment, I spend many hours as a 
volunteer in the community; I can appreciate the big effort these people 
have contributed to the project.


Peter Lee

Peter Lee

Ray_Net wrote:

Robert Kaiser wrote:

David E. Ross wrote:



In the past, I merely installed SeaMonkey directly over the prior
version without first removing that prior version. Can I safely install
SeaMonkey 2 over SeaMonkey 1.1.18 without first deleting the latter?


Best is to deinstall 1.1.18, leaving the profile data intact, and then
install 2.0.



Is this counsel also applicable for 1.1.14 instead of 1.1.18 ?

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Default Search Enging choices

[Peter Anton]

I would like to know if there's any way to add more search engines to 
the meager list of only 3 that Seamonkey provides: Ask Jeeves, dmoz.org 
and Google.  It has been this way for years and (unless I'm missing 
something) this seems like such an oversight not to have more choices or 
to have a function to be able to add more manually.  Is there maybe a 
plug-in that covers this?  I'd like to add Bing to the list instead of 
having to pull up the site manually each time.   - Peter A.



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Re: "Customize Google" Filter fails for certain sites

[Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo]

Fred Hare wrote:

Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote:

Fred Hare wrote:
I am using SM 1.1.14 and "Customize Google" extension 0.55, with 
filters enabled. It works OK for most blocked URL's, but there are 
certain sites which are not filtered, like 
http://www.experts-exchange.com/*

Like for Google search string "This action is only valid for"
www.experts-exchange.com/Software/Office_Productivity/Office_Suites/MS_
is still in the result list.
Has anybody an explanation?


why don't you go and ask them?: 
http://groups.google.com/group/CustomizeGoogle


Went there, found info that updating to newer version should solve the 
problem. Updated to 0.76 but no joy. Can anybody confirm my problem, or 
is it just me?


did you ask them for help?

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Re: pdf handling within seamonkey

[Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo]

Joe Farruggio wrote:

Joe Farruggio wrote:
Correction- it worked yesterday but when i tried to open a pdf file 
today i got the same old error message about failing to find 
foxitreaderOCX.ocx


Joe Farruggio wrote:

Joe wrote:
Had the same problem and fixed it by deleting the pdf helper and 
starting a new pdf helper which allowed me to select Adobe.I noted 
that the old pdf helper claimed to use Adobe but it really used Foxit


ocx has nothing to do with SeaMonkey; its a windows 
problem: 
http://searchwinit.techtarget.com/sDefinition/0,,sid1_gci212689,00.html


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Re: SeaMonkey Password Manager Problem...

[Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo]

Gregory Hicks wrote:

Greetings:

I wrote last week about a "gray bar below the status bar" and that I had 
solved this by deleting my profile and recreating it...


Now I have a new problem.  To wit:  The password manager does not seem 
to cue on my Bank's login request.  (It used to save the login info, now 
does not.)


Anyone have any idea's on why not?  Is there some way I can 'force' the 
info to be saved?


Thanks in advance!

Regards,
Gregory Hicks


check your settings: Edit, Preferences, Privacy & 
Security, Passwords, and make sure the little box there 
is checked.


If you still have your old profile hanging around, 
here's what you do:


Close SM, then locate, in the old profile, an 8 digit 
file that ends in a .s, such as 12345678.s, and 
key3.db.  Now copy those to the new profile and put 
them in the same place as the other location.  Open SM 
and your passwords should be there.


If you already have a password file in the new profile, 
then rename it, and rename the old password file to the 
new file.  But don't copy over the key3.db file. Then 
open SM.


Did any of these work?

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Re: "Customize Google" Filter fails for certain sites

[Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo]

Fred Hare wrote:
I am using SM 1.1.14 and "Customize Google" extension 0.55, with filters 
enabled. It works OK for most blocked URL's, but there are certain sites 
which are not filtered, like http://www.experts-exchange.com/*

Like for Google search string "This action is only valid for"
www.experts-exchange.com/Software/Office_Productivity/Office_Suites/MS_
is still in the result list.
Has anybody an explanation?


why don't you go and ask them?: 
http://groups.google.com/group/CustomizeGoogle


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Re: missing mail

[Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo]

Martin Feitag wrote:

Maxine schrieb:
Tried to right-click on the inbox folder, selecting properties and let 
the summary file being created again? (might have another name but 
there's just one button ;-) )


I've never found that option to work very good.  I 
usually have to manually delete the index file [.msf], 
and let it rebuild it from there.


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Re: Strange bottom bar

[Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo]

Gregory Hicks wrote:

Date: Sun, 26 Apr 2009 09:43:25 -0700
From: Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo 



Gregory Hicks wrote:

Greetings:

Recently, SeaMonkey (1.1.16 running on an UltraSPARC 1 under Solaris 9) 
started showing a relatively large blank area at the bottom of the 
window.  (See attached jpeg image please...  If you want a larger image, 
please let me know.  I'll forward one.)


Has anyone else seen this?  Or something like it?  I've been unable to 
find anything like it.  (Or maybe my Google-foo isn't tuned properly...)


[...]
Anyways, for your problem, it sounds like a faulty 
addon/extension or theme.  So try looking here for 
possible answers: 
http://kb.mozillazine.org/Gray_bar_below_status_bar



OK, found that there are TWO cases where the "grey bar below the status
bar" exists.  Unfortunately, they seem to be related to a windoze
install of Firefox.  And neither of the two extensions were installed.

Also, there doesn't seem to be any way, under SeaMonkey to uninstall
add-ons.  (At least, under the Tools -> ... menu options there doesn't
seem to be any...)

However, the fix was to create a new profile.  That got rid of an extra
toolbar (which always showed up as 'minimized' - you know with the
'selector' sideways and the actual toolbar about as wide as the
sideways selector...)

Dunno which one caused the grey bar, but it is gone.

Thanks!



you can uninstall using the extension manager AND the 
extension uninstaller: http://mozmonkey.com/


Perhaps one of your extensions needed updating, or if 
you're using a non-default theme, perhaps its that.


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