what does this mean?

[Jim]

I just finished refinancing my mortgage through my credit union on Friday.

I was looking at the headers from the credit union representative I was 
working with and I noticed all the messages contained something similar 
to this line in the headers:


Content-Type: multipart/alternative;
boundary="_000_1F5ABA47A1EF404F8649CB1DC0317811697FE4F3CMPSEXCHANGE2pr_"

They all had that line with the "SEXCHANGE" in there.

Thanks

Jim

Jim was REALLY curious
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Re: OT : what does this mean?

[Jim]

Philip TAYLOR wrote:



Jim wrote:


I just finished refinancing my mortgage through my credit union on
Friday.

I was looking at the headers from the credit union representative I
was working with and I noticed all the messages contained something
similar to this line in the headers:

Content-Type: multipart/alternative;
boundary="_000_1F5ABA47A1EF404F8649CB1DC0317811697FE4F3CMPSEXCHANGE2pr_"


 They all had that line with the "SEXCHANGE" in there.


I believe that what they really had in common were the two elements
"CMPS" and "EXCHANGE", which is an altogether different kiddle of fish :

 http://www.cmpsinstitute.org/exchange/login/login

Philip Taylor


Oh
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Re: SeaMonkey 2.13.1 Released

[Jim]

Jim wrote:

humptydumpty wrote:

Jim wrote:

I just installed this release.  During the install, I received a Norton
Antivirus alert that Suspicious.Cloud.7.F was detected and it "fixed it"
  (like fixing a cat maybe :) ).

Anyway, according to MozillaZine, it says this is a false positive,
associated with Foxfire and Sea Monkey.  So what did Norton "screw up"
by dealing with this "problem"?


The identical issue happened to me. The Norton fix was to remove the
file which further research identified as nssckbi.dll. In my case, the
result was a certificate error at every secure site I attempted to visit
from my bookmarks.

I did a system restore and am back to running SM 2.12.1 with no problems.


By golly Mr. Dumpty, I believe you are correct.  I also get a security
error at every secure site I visit.  As an aside, I first noticed this
when I did a Google search.  I never knew that Google had a secure site
until now, but that's where Sea Monkey sent me.  For now, I am just
checking out the certificates and then accepting them if the web site is
a legitimate one I go to, and the certificate appears to jive.

All --

I followed up with Norton with this problem on their forums.  The fix 
that worked for me -- they told me to restored the file from quarantine 
and Norton would no longer mess with it.  I did that and that worked.


Also, I submitted the .dll to Norton, and they said they couldn't 
reproduce the problem.  From the forum users, it appears that some PCs 
had the problem and some didn't -- but not sure if they all had this 
release of SeaMonkey and Norton.


Also, Norton may have fixed the problem in their antivirus prior to my 
file submission.

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Re: SeaMonkey 2.13.1 Released

[Jim]

Ant wrote:

On 10/25/2012 8:47 PM PT, Jim typed:


I followed up with Norton with this problem on their forums.  The fix
that worked for me -- they told me to restored the file from quarantine
and Norton would no longer mess with it.  I did that and that worked.

Also, I submitted the .dll to Norton, and they said they couldn't
reproduce the problem.  From the forum users, it appears that some PCs
had the problem and some didn't -- but not sure if they all had this
release of SeaMonkey and Norton.

Also, Norton may have fixed the problem in their antivirus prior to my
file submission.


What's the URL to this Notron forum thread?


http://community.norton.com/t5/Norton-360/Help-with-false-positive/m-p/825018#U825018


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Re: When will Mozilla be releasing its SeaMonkey 2.13.2?

[Jim]

Ant wrote:

Firefox v16.0.2 came out yesterday and
https://www.mozilla.org/security/announce/2012/mfsa2012-90.html
mentioned SeaMonkey to be affected as well.

Thank you in advance. :)

I just opened SM, and it brought up the updater and installed SM 2.13.2

No problems so far.
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SM 2.15 -- virus detected

[Jim]

Hi all --

Installed SM 2.15 this morning, and Norton Security Suite again did not 
like nssckbi.dll -- detected and quarantined this file as 
Suspicious.Cloud.7.F ( I had the same problem last year during a SM 
update -- same file).  So, I just restored the file and told Norton to 
ignore it in the future.


Last time I had this problem (same file), I went round and round with 
Norton about this -- think they said this detection means the file had 
possible characteristics of a virus, and when I submitted the file to 
Norton, they said it was not detected as a virus.  So, I think next 
update, I ought to wait a few days, until Norton gets their act together.


Running Norton Security Suite 6.4.0.9

Also running Immunet 3.0 (which is supposed to work well with Norton, 
and that did not detect anything).

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Re: SM 2.15 -- virus detected

[Jim]

Yeah, I could switch to a better AV product if one exists, but I get 
Norton for free for having an overpriced account with Comcast.


I've had Norton miss some detections, and had to use Spybot S&D for 
removal.  I've always liked Spybot S&D, and it's free.


Rob wrote:

Paul B. Gallagher  wrote:

Yesterday, I wrote:


Rob wrote:


As a customer of Norton you should be able to file a false positive
report and hopefully get it resolved.


I did, here:


I did have to specify which program and version was alerting.

They promised a response within 48 hours.


Sure enough, they just wrote back (after 12 hours) to say they'd cleared
the file and would remove its detection from their products. Then they said:

"This message (including any attachments) is intended only for the use
of the individual or entity to which it is addressed ... any use,
dissemination, distribution, or copying of this communication is
strictly prohibited."

So don't tell anyone you heard this from me.

They also offered a link for software developers to submit their
products for whitelisting, but I'm not sure if I'm allowed to disclose
that confidential information. ;-)


The Mozilla developers have tried to do that many times and it has
not worked.  That is why you had the problem.

Apparently the Norton people have put a too broad virus definition in
their database and it triggers with every Mozilla release.  When you
report a false positive they don't sit back and think "what causes this
and how can we modify the signature" but they just put in a whitelisting
entry that exactly matches (the signature of) the file you submit.

Next time a new Mozilla release ships, the file is slightly different
but still matches the broad virus pattern, and the same will happen.
Ad infinitum.  The only way you can get rid of this is by switching to
a better anti-virus product.



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Re: Context menu horrible large and it doesn't work in 2.17

[Jim]

Daniel wrote:

Otto Wyss wrote:

Jay Garcia wrote:

On 04.04.2013 16:17, Otto Wyss wrote:

  --- Original Message ---


Since the update to 2.17 today the context menu (right mouse button)
doesn't work anymore. Choosing any command has no effect. Besides why
does it now show so many commands? How is it possible to switch back to
the old context menu?

Otto Wyss


2.17 version of what?


Sorry SeaMonkey. Is it possible to move this thread to
"mozilla.support.seamonkey"?


Otto, if you look at the top of this message you will see that, as well
as replying to you in moz.general, I have also posted (cross-posted) it
to moz.s.seamonkey *and* set the follow-up there so when you reply
(unless you change things), your reply will appear under this post of
mine in the m.s.seamonkey group and not in m.gen.

I very rarely use the context menu, so don't know if I'm missing it or
not. Sorry!


I have the same problem -- nothing works.
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Re: Context menu horrible large and it doesn't work in 2.17

[Jim]

WaltS wrote:

Otto Wyss wrote:

Ed Mullen wrote:

Daniel wrote:

Erness Wild wrote:


Can we go back to the original problem, the context menu. Please discuss
about::config somewhere else.





Context menu on a page, link, image, video, or other item?

Mine all appear normal.

Have you tried any standard troubleshooting procedures?

On mine, some of the context menu items work, most of them don't.  For 
instance if I click on an image and select "view image", it doesn't do 
anything.


Jim
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Re: Context menu horrible large and it doesn't work in 2.17

[Jim]

WaltS wrote:

On 04/07/2013 04:27 PM, Otto Wyss wrote:

Ed Mullen wrote:

Daniel wrote:

Erness Wild wrote:


Can we go back to the original problem, the context menu. Please discuss
about::config somewhere else.





Firebug is an extension that caused context menus to have many extra
selections.



I had an old version of Firebug, which no longer worked correctly.  I 
uninstalled it, and lo and behold, my old menus are back and they work 
now.  So I tried to download the latest version of Firebug (yes, I'm a 
glutton for punishment), but when I click on the download button, it 
doesn't do anything.  It's like something thinks I still have Firebug 
installed.  Go figure!!!

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Re: pdf file display question

[Jim]

BIll Spikowski wrote:

Jim Taylor wrote:

Jay O'Brien wrote:

I have two computers on my desktop, both running SM. One, a Windows
7 64-bit machine, when I double-click on an attached pdf file
displays the pdf in Adobe reader. The other computer, XP 32-bit,
displays the files as an application/pdf Object in the SM browser,
not in Adobe reader.

What sets this action?

Thanks,

Jay O'Brien


That action is set in Adobe Reader.  You don't say what version you
have so it might not be in the same place in all versions.  In my
Reader X (version 10) it is Edit-Preferences-Internet and check or
uncheck "Display PDF in browser" in right pane under Web Browser Options.



I've recently begun having the same problem, all on Windows XP
machines. On my home computers, PDFs open in the SM browser (my
preference), but at work, after a recent SM upgrade, they began
opening in my full version of Adobe Acrobat. All the machines use the
same operating system and the identical version of SM

Acrobat has the same preference settings as Reader; my problem is not
there, as my preference is already set to "display PDF in browser."

It also has nothing to do with email settings for attached files; my
problem is PDFs opened from web links.

I've followed other advice offered in this NG but I've never figured
out where the glitch is, or how to restore the behavior I prefer...

Thanks for some thought son this.  I've been having problems viewing pdf 
files in SM, in that they have the view set at 200% or something 
(humongous) and there is no way to shrink the view to 100% or smaller. 
I fixed it as follows:  In Acrobat Reader X, go to preferences --> full 
screen --> enable Show Navigation Bar.  Somehow, that preference got 
unchecked.


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email font sudden change in seamonkey. how to revert?

[jim]

Does anyone know the key sequence to return to your previous font in email
composition?  (that it changes for no apparent reason appears to be a
known problem.)

jim
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Re: email font sudden change in seamonkey. how to revert?

[jim]

On Thu, 25 Apr 2013 10:28:08 -0700, "David E. Ross"
 in mozilla.support.seamonkey wrote:

>On 4/25/13 8:20 AM, jim wrote:
>> Does anyone know the key sequence to return to your previous font in email
>> composition?  (that it changes for no apparent reason appears to be a
>> known problem.)
>> 
>> jim
>> 
>
>See bug #812638 at <https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=812638>
>(marked as fixed, possibly to implemented in SeaMonkey 2.18).  See also
>bug #812638 at <https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=823523>.
>
>The most simple work-around is to do only plain-text E-mail.  More
>complicated work-arounds are described in the comments to bug #812638.


Thanks, David!

jim
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Re: Cannot access Annoyances.org (Blocked?)

[Jim]

Iceman wrote:

On Thu, 09 May 2013 06:41:06 -0700, DoctorBill wrote in message
:


PS  -- I am using XP until they force me to go to Windows 8 with whips
and guns pointed at me !


Use XP at your own risk. Support ends on 4/28/2014.

May I suggest Windows 7 in the meantime? Supported until 1/14/2020.

PS: Annoyances.org is still down. My time is 02:40 AM.


I clicked on the site and got
"Annoyances.org is temporarily down for maintainance and will return 
shortly."

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clearing a url out of the url cache

[Jim]

Being lazy, and usually going to the same web sites rather than others, 
I often click on the down arrow on the right side of where you enter the 
URL you wish to go to, and click on one of the URLs from the selections 
that appear, to go to that URL.


How can I delete just one of those URLs from the selection.  Being used 
to doing that, when I click on that particular URL, SeaMonkey says 
"Redirection loop."  and give me an error page (I guess they changed the 
URL?)


I normal clear out everything under privacy, etc., once every six months 
or so, because intuitively I feel there's only so much data you want the 
browser to store at one time.  Then I start letting things fill up again.


BTW, the specific URL is:

http://secure.worldcommunitygrid.org/viewLogin.do

Thanks
Jim
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Re: clearing a url out of the url cache

[Jim]

Paul wrote:

Jim wrote:

Being lazy, and usually going to the same web sites rather than
others, I often click on the down arrow on the right side of where you
enter the URL you wish to go to, and click on one of the URLs from the
selections that appear, to go to that URL.

How can I delete just one of those URLs from the selection.  Being
used to doing that, when I click on that particular URL, SeaMonkey
says "Redirection loop."  and give me an error page (I guess they
changed the URL?)

I normal clear out everything under privacy, etc., once every six
months or so, because intuitively I feel there's only so much data you
want the browser to store at one time.  Then I start letting things
fill up again.

BTW, the specific URL is:

http://secure.worldcommunitygrid.org/viewLogin.do

Thanks
Jim


In SM 1119 Windows version, that data is stored in
localstore.rdf.  It can be edited to remove, or insert,
what ever you want.

 www.frys.com
   

In your version... idk.
Thanks for your reply and everyone else's.  I am using SM 2.17.1 -- I 
went to localstore.rtf in my version, but see nothing indicating the 
URLs are stored here.  I am sure they are stored somewhere, but where, 
and wherever they are stored, wonder if that is a binary file, or one 
that can be edited with a text editor.


Jim
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Re: clearing a url out of the url cache

[Jim]

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Jim wrote:


Thanks for your reply and everyone else's.  I am using SM 2.17.1 -- I
went to localstore.rtf in my version, but see nothing indicating the
URLs are stored here.  I am sure they are stored somewhere, but
where, and wherever they are stored, wonder if that is a binary file,
or one that can be edited with a text editor.


The right way to save URLs so you can visit them again is to use
bookmarks (MS: favorites); this is what the feature is designed for. The
location bar is more like a short-term memory for places you just
visited a couple of minutes ago and didn't bother to bookmark.

The only things that show up in the location bar pull-down are things
you've manually typed into the location bar, which is probably a very
small percentage of the sites you've visited. For a complete list of
everywhere you've been (since the last time you cleared it), use Go |
History or CTRL-H to view the history.

Depending on your settings at Edit | Privacy & Security, the location
bar and the browser history are normally cleared when you clear private
data, either automatically on shutdown (if enabled) or manually. But
bookmarks are never cleared by mistake or by accident. You have to make
a special effort to delete them.

I have so many bookmarks, it isn't even funny.  The ones I go to the 
most, I organized into bookmark folders -- but as I said I'm lazy -- I 
like the convenience of that right click on the URL to go to sites I go 
to many times a day.  My bookmarks are so long, you have to scroll 
through a few pages of bookmarks to get to the ones at the bottom.


BTW, I got rid of that bookmark -- I was typing in a lot of URLs, and 
then just typed in the correct URL for the page in question -- case 
closed (for now).

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embedding video in email

[Jim]

Hi all --

I'm sure this had been asked before --

How does one embed a video in an email?

I tried embedding a youtube video of the Pikes Peak International Hill 
Climb in an email.


I used the youtube generated coded by inserting it into an html email:

http://www.youtube.com/embed/h-gqSBxHY04?feature=player_embedded";
  allowfullscreen="" frameborder="0" height="360" width="640">

(Inserted that in the body).

When I sent the email to myself, I just got a black-colored box the size 
of the video.  When I click on the box, nothing happens.


Is this even possible?  (I understand that embedding videos in email is 
frowned upon because of security considerations).  My ISP did not strip 
any of the code out of the email, and I downloaded the email to my PC to 
check it out.


Thanks

Jim
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Re: cnn news video ?

[Jim]

rjkrjk wrote:

http://www.cnn.com/video/data/2.0/video/us/2013/08/13/mxp-salute-sot-navy-chief-surprises-wife-irpt.hln.html


SM2.20WinXP SP3   P4 3.0Ghz 2Gb
current version of Adobe Flash 11  is current

anyone else not able to view CNN video's ( see above)
the ad that runs prior to the video is Ok-   other new video's Ok (BBC.com)

Work OK with me SM2.20 Windows 7

A month ago, I was having problem with all CNN videos.  The first time I 
would try to play them, they would stop, and I would get a message from 
my video card driver that it had recovered from a crash.  If I tried to 
go to the video the second time, I'd get a blue screen.


IE 9.0 worked OK on the videos.

So I stopped watching CNN videos until recently.  I've been updating all 
my programs as new updates come out.  Someone must have fixed the 
problem, because I no longer get video crashes on CNN (either on my end 
or CNN's end).


Jim
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can't update quicktime

[Jim]

I can't play Quicktime files anymore.  Says I need to upgrade to the 
latest version of Quicktime.  (The specific video I want to play is on 
www.apaceweather.com).  It send me to the Mozilla plugin updater page, 
which sends me to Quicktime http://www.apple.com/quicktime/download/


When I press install now, I get a popup asking me if I want to save the 
file (QuicktimeIntaller.exe), but when I click on "Save File", I don't 
have the foggiest idea where it is being installed -- it doesn't give me 
a hint.


Hints anyone?
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Re: can't update quicktime

[Jim]

I mean being saved, not being installed.

Jim wrote:

I can't play Quicktime files anymore.  Says I need to upgrade to the
latest version of Quicktime.  (The specific video I want to play is on
www.apaceweather.com).  It send me to the Mozilla plugin updater page,
which sends me to Quicktime http://www.apple.com/quicktime/download/

When I press install now, I get a popup asking me if I want to save the
file (QuicktimeIntaller.exe), but when I click on "Save File", I don't
have the foggiest idea where it is being installed -- it doesn't give me
a hint.

Hints anyone?


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Re: can't update quicktime

[Jim]

Thanks Paul--

Yes, that was Spaceweather -- I fat fingered it.  I looked at the 
selection and it was set to ask me where to save it (it didn't).  I 
changed it to save automatically in the downloads folder and it did.  I 
don't think it actually downloaded anything previously (bug?)


Thanks

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Jim wrote:


I can't play Quicktime files anymore.  Says I need to upgrade to the
latest version of Quicktime.  (The specific video I want to play is on
).  It send me to the Mozilla plugin updater page,
which sends me to Quicktime <http://www.apple.com/quicktime/download/>

When I press install now, I get a popup asking me if I want to save the
file (QuicktimeIntaller.exe), but when I click on "Save File", I don't
have the foggiest idea where it is being installed -- it doesn't give me
a hint.

Hints anyone?


First, I think you mean to point us to <http://www.Spaceweather.com/>,
not <http://www.Spaceweather.com/>. This page contains a link to a .mov
file, which can be played with several different programs including QT.

If you tell SM to save the file and you don't get a dialog inviting you
to select a location, it's probably because SM is set to save all
downloads to the same directory. Look at Edit | Preferences | Browser |
Downloads and see what you see under

 When saving a file
 (•) Save files to...
 (o) Always ask me where to save files

If you don't like that setup, switch to "Always ask..."



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Re: can't update quicktime

[Jim]

I ran the installer and it worked fine.  During the dfownload, the SM 
download window appeared (which didn't before).  It also shows the 
default download directory I selected in the bottom of the window (a 
nice touch).  For others updating QT, I noticed in the user agreement 
saying that this download would disable any previously purchased 
versions of QT Pro (which I deon't have), and the user must buy a new 
key to make it QT Pro work again (buyer beware).


Jim wrote:

Thanks Paul--

Yes, that was Spaceweather -- I fat fingered it.  I looked at the
selection and it was set to ask me where to save it (it didn't).  I
changed it to save automatically in the downloads folder and it did.  I
don't think it actually downloaded anything previously (bug?)

Thanks

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Jim wrote:


I can't play Quicktime files anymore.  Says I need to upgrade to the
latest version of Quicktime.  (The specific video I want to play is on
).  It send me to the Mozilla plugin updater page,
which sends me to Quicktime <http://www.apple.com/quicktime/download/>

When I press install now, I get a popup asking me if I want to save the
file (QuicktimeIntaller.exe), but when I click on "Save File", I don't
have the foggiest idea where it is being installed -- it doesn't give me
a hint.

Hints anyone?


First, I think you mean to point us to <http://www.Spaceweather.com/>,
not <http://www.Spaceweather.com/>. This page contains a link to a .mov
file, which can be played with several different programs including QT.

If you tell SM to save the file and you don't get a dialog inviting you
to select a location, it's probably because SM is set to save all
downloads to the same directory. Look at Edit | Preferences | Browser |
Downloads and see what you see under

 When saving a file
 (•) Save files to...
 (o) Always ask me where to save files

If you don't like that setup, switch to "Always ask..."





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another flash problem

[Jim]

Starting last night, Flash started giving me the "do not enter symbol", 
stating "The plugin has security vulnerabilities".  Underneath there is 
hypertext that says "Activate Adobe Flash".  If you click on that, Flash 
runs, but seems some of the functionality is missing (for instance, when 
I did the "Daily Jumble", you can't type the letters in the words.


I am running Windows 7 with SM 2.33.1

I have 4 profiles for SM -- only two are affected with this problem (I 
suspect as Flash updates itself, it starts giving this message).


The two that are giving me the warning state:

Shockwave Flash
Version 18.0.0.203
State: Enabled (STATE_VULNERABLE_NO_UPDATE)

The two profiles that are still working OK state:
Version 18.0.0.203
State: Enabled

(These are under the Help --> About: Plugins in SeaMonkey)

Any idea what's going on?  Flash is tied in to so much multimedia these 
days :-(


Jim

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Re: another flash problem

[Jim]

WaltS48 wrote:

On 07/14/2015 01:32 PM, Jim wrote:

Starting last night, Flash started giving me the "do not enter symbol",
stating "The plugin has security vulnerabilities".  Underneath there is
hypertext that says "Activate Adobe Flash".  If you click on that, Flash
runs, but seems some of the functionality is missing (for instance, when
I did the "Daily Jumble", you can't type the letters in the words.

I am running Windows 7 with SM 2.33.1

I have 4 profiles for SM -- only two are affected with this problem (I
suspect as Flash updates itself, it starts giving this message).

The two that are giving me the warning state:

Shockwave Flash
Version 18.0.0.203
State: Enabled (STATE_VULNERABLE_NO_UPDATE)

The two profiles that are still working OK state:
Version 18.0.0.203
State: Enabled

(These are under the Help --> About: Plugins in SeaMonkey)

Any idea what's going on?  Flash is tied in to so much multimedia these
days :-(

Jim



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Thanks for the help, WaltS48 --

Adobe released an updated plugin today to fix the vulnerability.  It is 
Version 18.0.0.209 -- I installed that and everything is back to normal 
again.

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Re: Enabling full screen for youtube videos

[Jim]

Paul in Houston, TX wrote:

dirk wrote:

Paul Bergsagel schreef:

To enable full screen for youtube videos type about:cofig in the address
bar browser window.

In the widow that appears look for the search box and type "full"

Change these two items from false to true:

full-screen-api.content-only

and

full-screen-api.enabled

Once these two items are changed from false to true you can click on the
full screen icon of youtube HTML 5 videos and enter full screen. There
is no need to force youtube to use flash instead of html 5 video format.

To exit full screen simply use the ESC key on your keyboard.



This does noet result in real full screen, the tabs and address bar
still on top of the
video.

No other solution?


 From the previous thread on this subject, 9-5-15:
 >  Youtube HTML5.
 >  The little full screen box icon thing does not work with HTML5 in FF
2.26.1,
 >  however if you right click on the video then click Full Screen it
does open full  > screen.
 >  The box icon thing does work with FF 27.
I tried that, and it doesn't work for me.  Yes, it goes to full screen, 
but the screen is completely black, except for a white "X" in the upper 
right corner of the screen for getting out of that mode.  And the video 
will not play, unless you get out of that mode.

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Re: Good news coming for users of Adblock Plus

[Jim]

Ant wrote:

On 9/25/2015 1:27 PM, Mason83 wrote:

http://venturebeat.com/2015/09/23/mozilla-fixed-a-14-year-old-bug-in-firefox-and-now-adblock-plus-uses-a-lot-less-memory/

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=77999

https://blog.mozilla.org/nnethercote/2015/07/01/firefox-41-will-use-less-memory-when-running-adblock-plus/

https://blog.mozilla.org/nnethercote/2014/05/14/adblock-pluss-effect-on-firefoxs-memory-usage/



So we will see this in the upcoming SM v2.38?

It appears v2.38 was released today.  See http://www.seamonkey-project.org/

I didn't get the automatic install screen when I started up SeaMonkey, 
so I am waiting for that.

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changing default prefs for inserting images

[Jim]

Hi all --

When I insert an image in an email, SM always has it set for me to 
insert alternate text, and I have to deselect that option.


Is there any setting in the configuration settings where, I can turn 
this off by default?


Thanx
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Re: Web Sudoku fails to print

[Jim]

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

I just wrote:


For months now, I've been going to 
and printing out the puzzles for my amusement (I prefer to work on paper
because I can make notes that the electronic version doesn't accept).

All of a sudden, now that I've upgraded to SM 2.40, the puzzles print
with all the cells blank, even though they display normally (with some
cells filled). This is true both for my hard-copy printers and for my
Adobe Acrobat driver. As you can imagine, a 9×9 grid with no clues is
useless.

Steps to replicate:

1) At the linked page, click the "Print" button under the puzzle.

2) Choose either "Print regular" or "Print large" (the "Print an
Ebook..." option requires a purchase; I haven't tested that).

3) When the printer selection dialog pops up, choose a printer or let it
use your default.


P.S. If you cancel the print job in step 3, Print Preview shows all the
cells will be blank.

I just tried it, using the Print button (Print Regular, I think), and it 
works fine for me.  All the cells are filled in.


I'm using SM 2.40 and Windows 7.  My printer is an old Dell V305W.

OT -- regarding my printer, a few years ago, I was looking at the 
printer driver, and discovered it had a serious memory leak.  I 
uninstalled it, and upgraded to a newer 64 bite driver and that fixed 
the memory leak problem.  However, installing the driver was 
"difficult", and it took me about two days, to figure how to get it to 
install correctly.  My printer still loses connectivity sometimes.  I 
think HP has better software support for their printers (IMHO).

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Re: Web Sudoku fails to print

[Jim]

Jim wrote:

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

I just wrote:


For months now, I've been going to <http://www.websudoku.com/?level=3>
and printing out the puzzles for my amusement (I prefer to work on paper
because I can make notes that the electronic version doesn't accept).

All of a sudden, now that I've upgraded to SM 2.40, the puzzles print
with all the cells blank, even though they display normally (with some
cells filled). This is true both for my hard-copy printers and for my
Adobe Acrobat driver. As you can imagine, a 9×9 grid with no clues is
useless.

Steps to replicate:

1) At the linked page, click the "Print" button under the puzzle.

2) Choose either "Print regular" or "Print large" (the "Print an
Ebook..." option requires a purchase; I haven't tested that).

3) When the printer selection dialog pops up, choose a printer or let it
use your default.


P.S. If you cancel the print job in step 3, Print Preview shows all the
cells will be blank.


I just tried it, using the Print button (Print Regular, I think), and it
works fine for me.  All the cells are filled in.

I'm using SM 2.40 and Windows 7.  My printer is an old Dell V305W.

OT -- regarding my printer, a few years ago, I was looking at the
printer driver, and discovered it had a serious memory leak.  I
uninstalled it, and upgraded to a newer 64 bite driver and that fixed
the memory leak problem.  However, installing the driver was
"difficult", and it took me about two days, to figure how to get it to
install correctly.  My printer still loses connectivity sometimes.  I
think HP has better software support for their printers (IMHO).


Make that a "64-bit" driver.
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Re: ABC News videos won't play

[Jim]

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Example:



I click the play button over and over again, and nothing happens.

Drop the same URL into Internet Exploiter and it works fine.

Noncompliant coding, I assume?

It worked OK for me.  Kind of strange, the video started up, went blank, 
then a few seconds later, it started up again and played OK.  Running 
both AdBlock Plus and NoScripts.

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page modified date

[Jim]

Is there anyway to determine the date and time when a web page was last 
modified?


On SM, I went to View --> Page Info
Under the "General" tab, it has a "modified" field, but this just gives 
the current date and time, for when the web page was opened.  I thought 
this may be because the page was retrieved from the "cache", so I went 
to a profile where the web page hadn't yet been loaded, but when I 
loaded the page, it also just gave me the date and time it was loaded.


Is it even possible to determine the modification date and time for a 
web page, on the receiving end?


BTW, looked at the "page source" and didn't see this information in the 
code.

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Re: page modified date

[Jim]

Stanimir Stamenkov wrote:

Sun, 9 Oct 2016 13:35:24 -0600, Jim:


Is there anyway to determine the date and time when a web page was
last modified?

On SM, I went to View --> Page Info
Under the "General" tab, it has a "modified" field, but this just
gives the current date and time, for when the web page was opened.  I
thought this may be because the page was retrieved from the "cache",
so I went to a profile where the web page hadn't yet been loaded, but
when I loaded the page, it also just gave me the date and time it was
loaded.

Is it even possible to determine the modification date and time for a
web page, on the receiving end?

BTW, looked at the "page source" and didn't see this information in
the code.


It's not in the page source but in the HTTP headers.  If you're getting
just the current date and time in the Page Info then the page doesn't
supply Last-Modified information, and is likely dynamically generated,
although the content may appear static.  Try this one:

https://www.w3.org/TR/html4/

In Page Info I'm seeing:

Modified: 13 март 2000 г. 16:38:32 ч.

(sorry for the Cyrillic)


Thanks for the info (and to everyone else who replied).
That would make sense that if anyone had everything exactly correct 
(whether needed or not) on their website, W3 would have it.

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Re: fox news videos no longer play in seamonkey

[Jim]

Jim wrote:

In the past 3 or 4 weeks, Fox News videos will no longer play in SM
2.40, W10.

Example: http://video.foxnews.com/v/5224817054001/?#sp=show-clips

I just get a black screen showing the video controls.  When I press the
play button, it still doesn't do anything.

I may have changed something to cause this behavior, but not sure what.

I have ad block plus, and no scripts, but when I open a profile without
these, I still get the same results.

They play OK, when using The Edge.

Also, what video player is used for these videos?

TIA
Jim in Colorado Springs --
I read the response for ESPN videos above, and that doesn't help.  I 
have Comcast as a provider.

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fox news videos no longer play in seamonkey

[Jim]

In the past 3 or 4 weeks, Fox News videos will no longer play in SM 
2.40, W10.


Example: http://video.foxnews.com/v/5224817054001/?#sp=show-clips

I just get a black screen showing the video controls.  When I press the 
play button, it still doesn't do anything.


I may have changed something to cause this behavior, but not sure what.

I have ad block plus, and no scripts, but when I open a profile without 
these, I still get the same results.


They play OK, when using The Edge.

Also, what video player is used for these videos?

TIA
Jim in Colorado Springs --
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Re: Can't Play ESPN Videos

[Jim]

I also have the same problem watching videos at www.espn.com.  The ad 
plays, but the main video doesn't follow -- just a black screen with the 
controls on it, and the play control doesn't do anything.  This was 
using a profile without ad block plus and no scripts add ons.


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Re: fox news videos no longer play in seamonkey

[Jim]

David E. Ross wrote:

On 11/29/2016 6:48 AM, Jim wrote:

In the past 3 or 4 weeks, Fox News videos will no longer play in SM
2.40, W10.

Example: http://video.foxnews.com/v/5224817054001/?#sp=show-clips

I just get a black screen showing the video controls.  When I press the
play button, it still doesn't do anything.

I may have changed something to cause this behavior, but not sure what.

I have ad block plus, and no scripts, but when I open a profile without
these, I still get the same results.

They play OK, when using The Edge.

Also, what video player is used for these videos?

TIA
Jim in Colorado Springs --



I was able to play the video with the following SeaMonkey settings:
*  View All Images -- normally I have View Images Only From Requested Domain
*  Enable Popups -- normally disabled
*  Enable Flash -- normally disabled
*  Disable AdBlock Plus -- normally enabled
*  Disable Secret Agent -- normally enabled
*  Set user agent to Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:43.0)
Gecko/20100101 SeaMonkey/2.40, NOT Firefox/49.0 -- normally does not
include ", NOT Firefox/49.0"
*  Enable HTML5 Media -- normally disabled

I do not know if all those changes were necessary.  I was able to do all
of them very quickly via PrefBar (including some PrefBar "buttons" that
I created myself).


I think you may be on to something.

I do not know what PrefBar means though.  I looked in about:config, just 
for the HTML5 Media setting, and couldn't find one.


And not being real knowledgeable about about:config, I wouldn't want to 
void the warranty :-)

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Mrs Claus Emoji no longer works in SM 2.46

[Jim]

In in emails in SM 2.46
Here's Santa Claus 🎅🏼
Here's Mrs. Claus 🤶🏼
All I see is two little boxes with numbers and letters in them.

Is this a sexist version?  👺

Mrs. Claus rendered correctly in the previous version of SM.

Merry Christmas all!!!

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Re: Mrs Claus Emoji no longer works in SM 2.46

[Jim]

David E. Ross wrote:

On 12/24/2016 5:22 PM, Jim wrote:

In in emails in SM 2.46
Here's Santa Claus 🎅🏼
Here's Mrs. Claus 🤶🏼
All I see is two little boxes with numbers and letters in them.

Is this a sexist version?  👺

Mrs. Claus rendered correctly in the previous version of SM.

Merry Christmas all!!!




The box contains the hex code for the glyph (character).  Its presence
means that the font that contains a glyph with that hex code is not in
the repertoire for SeaMonkey's MailNews component.


Thanks -- I figured as much.

Bah humbug!!!
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search engine hijacked

[Jim]

I got up this morning and found that my search engine has been switched 
to "duckduckgo".


No matter what I switched to for search in preferences, duckduckgo came 
up as a search engine.


I went to the screen under search engine precedence, and moved 
duckduckgo down to last.  It still came up as my search engine.


Finally, I deleted it from the list of available search engines under 
preferences and that got rid of it (for that user profile in SM).


Reading up on this subject, it appears I may have updated or installed 
something, and didn't see a box checked to make duckduckgo my default 
search engine (my bad).  But there isn't a good explanation how to get 
rid of it completely (says to uninstall the app but doesn't give a good 
idea what that app is).


I notice my other SM profiles still come up with duckduckgo as search 
engine.  Any ideas (besides deleting that as an available search engine 
in each profile)?


Running SM 2.46, W10, adblock plus, noscripts, and Norton Security Suite.
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Re: search engine hijacked

[Jim]

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Jim wrote:


I got up this morning and found that my search engine has been
switched to "duckduckgo".

...

Reading up on this subject, it appears I may have updated or
installed something, and didn't see a box checked to make duckduckgo
my default search engine (my bad). But there isn't a good
explanation how to get rid of it completely (says to uninstall the
app but doesn't give a good idea what that app is).


Not your fault, it's a known issue. Everyone who upgrades to SM 2.46
seems to have it.

Easiest solution is to delete DDG from the list at Edit | Preferences |
Browser | Internet Search | Manage Search Engines. Then you can choose
the desired search engine and SM will stop overruling you.

DuckDuckStop!!

Thanks -- that's what I did, but I actually had to delete duckduckgo 
from the list of available search engines to stop it from being the default.

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Re: search engine hijacked

[Jim]

Ant wrote:

On 12/29/2016 10:25 AM, Jonathan N. Little wrote:

Ant wrote:

SM's View Menu -> Show/Hide -> Sidebar OR press F9 key. This was in my
updated 64-bit W7 HPE SP1 OS. Change it. See if it works now. It's a
known issue.


That seems a simpler process that what I suggested.  Good tip.


Yep, it was suggested in "SM2.46 default search engine problem"
newsgroup thread. :)
Thanks all -- I searched the newsgroup for "ducktogo" and not "search 
engine" before I posted.

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Re: Unable to start this video

[Jim]

Works fine for me with default SM settings, although I think I have SM 
set to not autoplay videos.


Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:49.0) Gecko/20100101 
Firefox/49.0 SeaMonkey/2.46


Still can't get foxnews videos to play though --

Gave up and use the Edge to view these.

Ray_Net wrote:

Unable to start this video

http://www.ultimedia.com/deliver/generic/iframe/mdtk/01590560/src/880q3u/zone/1/showtitle/1/


With media.autoplay.enabled with value = false.

User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:49.0) Gecko/20100101
Firefox/49.0 SeaMonkey/2.46


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Re: Weird error from viki.com

[Jim]

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Anyone else seeing this?

Since this morning, if I try to visit  I get only
this error message:

{"error":"not found","vcode":8500}


Work for me, with adblockplus and noscripts.
OT -- my wife is Korean and used to go to this site a lot to watch 
Korean movies.



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Re: Weird error from viki.com (SOLVED)

[Jim]

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Jim wrote:


Paul B. Gallagher wrote:



OT -- my wife is Korean and used to go to this site a lot to watch
Korean movies.


I edit the English subtitles there, have seen 2,969 episodes and 62
movies (there and elsewhere) since 2008.

제 인사를 부인에게 보내주십시오.

After observing my wife watching these videos, and all the angst, 
screaming, crying that goes on, all I can say is I feel sorry for you :-)

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seamonkey problems - solved

[Jim]

Just passing this along in case anyone else has the same problem.

This morning, all of a sudden, SM was going bonkers.  The view of the 
web site I was viewing all of a sudden shrunk down to miniscule.


Every time I started typing a URL, download manager would open up.

I tried another profile, and started typing, and page source opened up.

I thought my PC was going bonkers, so tried other programs.  When I 
opened up MS Word, it gave me a warning "You are holding down your ctrl 
key -- do you want to open in the safe mode?".  I looked and a notebook 
was lightly resting on the ctrl key.  I wiggled the key a few times, and 
problems solved. Still had problems with the view, because that had 
shrunk it down to 50% -- set at 100%, and OK.


Doh -- need more coffee.
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what does X-Mozilla Status mean?

[Jim]

I noticed that all the headers for my email that I send out contain:

X-Mozilla-Status: 0001
X-Mozilla-Status2: 0080

What does that mean?
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Re: what does X-Mozilla Status mean?

[Jim]

Ralph Fox wrote:

On Fri, 17 Jan 2014 19:33:04 -0700, Jim wrote:


I noticed that all the headers for my email that I send out contain:

X-Mozilla-Status: 0001
X-Mozilla-Status2: 0080

What does that mean?



They include information such as
   *  Whether the message is marked read,
   *  Whether the message is queued for upload,
   *  Whether the message is starred,
   *  Whether the message has been replied to,
   *   ...etc.


If you understand hexadecimal numbers, see
http://www.eyrich-net.org/mozilla/X-Mozilla-Status.html
The right-hand side of X-Mozilla-Status and X-Mozilla-Status2
is the sum (in hexadecimal arithmetic) of the "Value" column
from those rows which apply to the message.



Thanks Ralph and Hartmut.  Just was curious.

Jim
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Re: secondary font in email composition

[jim]

On Sun, 19 Jan 2014 13:28:08 -0500, Ed Mullen
 in mozilla.support.seamonkey wrote:

>jim wrote:
>> Seamonkey 2.9.1
>>
>> that the email composition font is liable to change from your setting for
>> html messages to variable font mixed (i think that is what it is) is not
>> longer something i beat myself up for as something "i am doing" since i
>> find out it happens to other people (and even with thunderbird).  I found
>> it several years ago and changed it form a serif (times roman or courier
>> or similar) to match my primary arial composition font and size as close
>> as possible and can not 'refind" it since i have made a recent change in
>> my html font from "large" to extra large".
>>
>> cutting to the chase: does anyone know where the setting for the secondary
>> default font for email composition in Seamonkey is?
>>
>> jim
>>
>>
>
>Not quite sure what you mean by "secondary font", Jim.  But, the font 
>settings are in:
>
>Edit - Preferences - Appearance - Fonts.

Thanks for the reply, Ed.

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Re: secondary font in email composition

[jim]

On Mon, 20 Jan 2014 21:51:15 -0500, Ed Mullen
 in mozilla.support.seamonkey wrote:

>EE wrote:
>> Paul B. Gallagher wrote:
>>> Rob wrote:
>>>> jim  wrote:
>>>>> Seamonkey 2.9.1
>>>>>
>>>>> that the email composition font is liable to change from your setting
>>>>> for
>>>>> html messages to variable font mixed (i think that is what it is) is
>>>>> not
>>>>> longer something i beat myself up for as something "i am doing" since i
>>>>> find out it happens to other people (and even with thunderbird).  I
>>>>> found
>>>>> it several years ago and changed it form a serif (times roman or
>>>>> courier
>>>>> or similar) to match my primary arial composition font and size as
>>>>> close
>>>>> as possible and can not 'refind" it since i have made a recent
>>>>> change in
>>>>> my html font from "large" to extra large".
>>>>>
>>>>> cutting to the chase: does anyone know where the setting for the
>>>>> secondary
>>>>> default font for email composition in Seamonkey is?
>>>>>
>>>>> jim
>>>>
>>>> Please note that once you change the font setting for mail composition,
>>>> things become extremely buggy.  You will not be able to predict what
>>>> happens when you backspace, cut-and-paste, reply to part of a message,
>>>> etc.  It worked okay in the past but it has been broken and apparently
>>>> it is not going to be fixed.
>>>>
>>>> It may work sort of reasonable in the extremely old version that you
>>>> use.
>>>
>>> Strange you should say that; I've customized my font settings pretty
>>> extensively and not had any trouble as a result. I certainly haven't
>>> seen spaces vanish or characters move around without permission.
>>>
>>> Like Ed, I don't know what a "secondary font" could be.
>>>
>> Probably it is the font used by the sender of the message rather than
>> the one you choose to display messages.
>>
>
>Well, until the OP chimes in we'll never know.

possibly "secondary default font" was a poor description.  I will quietly
drop the subject, i've only been using Netscape and then Son of Netscape
for twenty years. 

cheers now,

jim
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Re: secondary font in email composition

[jim]

On Mon, 20 Jan 2014 12:29:15 -0500, "Larry S."
 in mozilla.support.seamonkey wrote:

>jim wrote:
>> Seamonkey 2.9.1
>>
>> that the email composition font is liable to change from your setting for
>> html messages to variable font mixed (i think that is what it is) is not
>> longer something i beat myself up for as something "i am doing" since i
>> find out it happens to other people (and even with thunderbird).  I found
>> it several years ago and changed it form a serif (times roman or courier
>> or similar) to match my primary arial composition font and size as close
>> as possible and can not 'refind" it since i have made a recent change in
>> my html font from "large" to extra large".
>>
>> cutting to the chase: does anyone know where the setting for the secondary
>> default font for email composition in Seamonkey is?
>>
>> jim
>>
>>
>Just wondering--might this be a Linux problem? The responses from 
>Windows users (admittedly,only a few) don't seem to mention the problem.
>
>Larry S.

A reasonable question Larry, i am using windows XP 32 bit.


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Re: secondary font in email composition

[jim]

On Wed, 22 Jan 2014 13:47:16 +0900, Trane Francks  in
mozilla.support.seamonkey wrote:

>For what it's worth, I find that pasting into an HTML mail often gets 
>the font 'stuck' in preformat mode and I have to consciously change back 
>to body text. Maybe related?

When you paste something into your email, your next line will assume the
same font and attributes (if html email) of the paste object.

When i know i am going to paste a bit into the email, i often will type
"X" on several times and paste into the middle of that so that my font is
unchanged when i start keying the next line under the paste object.

Now, that may or may not have had anything to do with what you are talking
about.   :-)  

I made a poor description of my problem -- as i said the same thing occurs
in Thunderbird according to a friend in Ohio and this "first hit" on
google, and obviously on other OS platforms ---
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/thunderbird/+bug/584632

(reply expected saying that this is the Seamonkey forum.  LOL)

Cheers,

jim
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Re: secondary font in email composition

[jim]

On Tue, 21 Jan 2014 22:02:52 -0500, jim  in
mozilla.support.seamonkey wrote:

>On Mon, 20 Jan 2014 21:51:15 -0500, Ed Mullen
> in mozilla.support.seamonkey wrote:
>
>>EE wrote:
>>> Paul B. Gallagher wrote:
>>>> Rob wrote:
>>>>> jim  wrote:
>>>>>> Seamonkey 2.9.1
>>>>>>
>>>>>> that the email composition font is liable to change from your setting
>>>>>> for
>>>>>> html messages to variable font mixed (i think that is what it is) is
>>>>>> not
>>>>>> longer something i beat myself up for as something "i am doing" since i
>>>>>> find out it happens to other people (and even with thunderbird).  I
>>>>>> found
>>>>>> it several years ago and changed it form a serif (times roman or
>>>>>> courier
>>>>>> or similar) to match my primary arial composition font and size as
>>>>>> close
>>>>>> as possible and can not 'refind" it since i have made a recent
>>>>>> change in
>>>>>> my html font from "large" to extra large".
>>>>>>
>>>>>> cutting to the chase: does anyone know where the setting for the
>>>>>> secondary
>>>>>> default font for email composition in Seamonkey is?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> jim
>>>>>
>>>>> Please note that once you change the font setting for mail composition,
>>>>> things become extremely buggy.  You will not be able to predict what
>>>>> happens when you backspace, cut-and-paste, reply to part of a message,
>>>>> etc.  It worked okay in the past but it has been broken and apparently
>>>>> it is not going to be fixed.
>>>>>
>>>>> It may work sort of reasonable in the extremely old version that you
>>>>> use.
>>>>
>>>> Strange you should say that; I've customized my font settings pretty
>>>> extensively and not had any trouble as a result. I certainly haven't
>>>> seen spaces vanish or characters move around without permission.
>>>>
>>>> Like Ed, I don't know what a "secondary font" could be.
>>>>
>>> Probably it is the font used by the sender of the message rather than
>>> the one you choose to display messages.
>>>
>>
>>Well, until the OP chimes in we'll never know.
>
>possibly "secondary default font" was a poor description.  I will quietly
>drop the subject, i've only been using Netscape and then Son of Netscape
>for twenty years. 
 (for years seamonkey carried system files from one version to another
that still had the header "This Is a netscape file, do not edit" -- which,
of course, only meant to close the app before editing that file)
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Re: Hitches with 2.24 update

[Jim]

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Partway through the update, Norton Internet Security "detected"
Suspicious.Cloud.7.F and removed it to quarantine. As soon as this
happened, SeaMonkey's check of add-ins for compatibility stalled. After
five minutes of spinning, I clicked "Cancel" and the installer terminated.

The file that was flagged by NIS was
C:\Program Files(x86)\SeaMonkey\freebl3.dll
The file size is 299,520 bytes.
The Details panel from Windows Explorer properties reports:
File description: NSS freebl Library
Type: Application extension
File version: 3.15.4.0
Product name: Network Security Services
Product version: 3.15.4 Basic ECC
Copyright:
Size: 292 KB
Date modified: 2/7/2014 1:56 AM
Language: English (United States)
Original filename: freebl3.dll

I launched SeaMonkey, which reported its version as 2.24, but did not
automatically take me to the release notes (well, actually, it tried,
but I just got the busy cursor; it never displayed the page). In fact, I
was unable to browse to any web page, which means I cannot download the
installer and reinstall manually.

I checked my add-ons, and found the "Extensions" were intact, but the
"Plugins" panel was blank (about 10 add-ons had vanished). When I asked
SM to check compatibility, I got the same result as with the browser --
unable to browse to any page, including the plugin check.

I am unable to download mail (Ctrl-D produces no response).

I will download the full installer on another computer, move it here,
uninstall and reinstall and see if that helps.

I used to have this problem with SM and Norton.  I now wait a few days 
for Norton to get its act together -- haven't had a problem since. 
Also, I check this group before installation, to make sure there aren't 
any other "show-stoppers" that I need to know about, so I don't do 
something that I don't want to do.

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seamonkey add-on

[jim]

Is there a seamonkey add-on that performs the same function as the
"addthis" extension for firefox?  That is, a seamonkey extension that sets
up a link sharing to social media.
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Re: SeaMonkey 2.25?

[Jim]

My PC is getting old and tired, but SM seems to work very quickly.

Ron Hunter wrote:

On 3/21/2014 3:18 AM, Daniel wrote:

On 21/03/14 04:00, OldGuy wrote:

The US-CERT announced:

Will Seamonkey 2.25 be released soon?  It's neither on the
 Web site nor on the ftp.mozilla.org
FTP server.


I hope the Seamonkey is no longer a slug-monkey.
Why is it so slow?


It is so slow because those who produce it are working 9 to 5 at their
real jobs, then they spend time with family and friends and then the get
some sleep  AND Then they work on SeaMonkey for the benefit of all
of us, who get the fruit of their efforts for FREE!!

They'll get around to it sometime, Oldguy!!


It isn't slow here.  Maybe the OP has a really old, slow, tired, and
mal-ware infested computer.



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read messages not viewable

[Jim]

I switched my view to unread to read unread messages (for Inbox).  When 
I switched back to view -->all, still only the unread messages are 
viewable.  However, if I switch to custom view --> last 5 days, I can 
see all the messages (both read and unread) from the last 5 days.


How can I fix this, so I can see all my messages again?

Jim
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Re: read messages not viewable

[Jim]

Thanks Daniel -- that helped --

I had changed View --> messages --> All.  This morning, after reading 
your post I went to view --> threads.  That was still at "unread"  So I 
changed that to view --> threads --> all, and that fixed the problem.


I never noticed that there was one for threads too.

Jim

Daniel wrote:

On 24/04/14 05:34, Jim wrote:

I switched my view to unread to read unread messages (for Inbox).  When
I switched back to view -->all, still only the unread messages are
viewable.  However, if I switch to custom view --> last 5 days, I can
see all the messages (both read and unread) from the last 5 days.

How can I fix this, so I can see all my messages again?

Jim


Jim, did you change View-> *Messages* -> Unread or View-> *Threads*
->Unread??

And then which did you revert??



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Re: SeaMonkey 2.30

[Jim]

Danny Kile wrote:

I am running SM 2.26.1 did not bother installing the previous for all
the problems everyone else was having. I am considering upgrading to
version SM 2.30, looking for pros and cons, should I do it of should I
hold off for awhile?

Thank you for your input,

Danny
I installed SM 2.30 on my Windows7 PC a few days ago with no noticeable 
adverse effects (so far).  Only addons I have are Ad Block Plus and 
NoScript.


Jim
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Re: No passwords or email

[Jim]

Danny Kile wrote:

Ray_Net wrote:

Ed Mullen wrote, On 11/11/2014 02:18:

WaltS48 wrote on 11/10/2014 2:40 PM:

On 11/10/2014 12:35 PM, Chuck wrote:

Since the last update I have no passwords in Password Manager nor can
I edit or add passwords
aldso as a result,
I cannot log in to download emails



Do you have the Remember Passwords extension installed?

"The Remember Passwords add-on breaks password handling. Please disable
or uninstall this add-on using the Add-ons Manager."

Known Issues


Walt, I'm begging you:  PLEASE!  Stop with the HTML posts.  Your
purple background etc. is nearly sucking my eyeballs out of my head.


I did not exhibit a "purple" background ... it's only a nice light blue.


It's the same here light blue.

That's strange -- it's a light purple on my screen--

You guys are color blind.  :)
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"password dot" problem

[Jim]

I am not expecting an answer to this question, as most of you can't get 
to this web site.


I am retired military and need to use many military web sites.  The 
military is paranoid about password security and requires users to 
change their passwords every 90 days (and the requirements get ever more 
complex).


I use Keepass to generate passwords, and paste the passwords into the 
proper boxes.  Last week, I was told I need to change my password.  One 
requirement is that the password must be between 15 and 20 characters. 
I set Keepass to generate a 20-character password and meet all the other 
requirements.  I had problems getting a password, that I could use to 
log in.


I found out, that in Seamonkey, when I pasted my 20-character password 
into the box, it only showed 17 "password dots".  (It was cutting off 3 
characters).


When I successfully used IE, the boxes would hold 20 password dots.

Any thoughts on this?

TIA -- Jim

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Re: "password dot" problem

[Jim]

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Jim wrote:

I am not expecting an answer to this question, as most of you can't get
to this web site.

I am retired military and need to use many military web sites.  The
military is paranoid about password security and requires users to
change their passwords every 90 days (and the requirements get ever more
complex).

I use Keepass to generate passwords, and paste the passwords into the
proper boxes.  Last week, I was told I need to change my password.  One
requirement is that the password must be between 15 and 20 characters. I
set Keepass to generate a 20-character password and meet all the other
requirements.  I had problems getting a password, that I could use to
log in.

I found out, that in Seamonkey, when I pasted my 20-character password
into the box, it only showed 17 "password dots".  (It was cutting off 3
characters).

When I successfully used IE, the boxes would hold 20 password dots.

Any thoughts on this?


That should be the webmaster's fault -- they're the ones who specify the
length of fillable fields. But if IE lets you in, that's probably not it.

Could it be a display issue? I mean, if you paste the whole password in
SeaMonkey, could it be that you don't see 20 dots but it still works?

Don't know (about that being the webmaster's fault).  One thing that is 
the webmaster's fault is that the page states the rules, and changes a 
red "x" to a check mark for each rule the password satisfies.  If you 
paste the password in the blank, all the criteria keep the red "x"es 
until you delete the last character (and then reenter it).


Wish the military would just give us retirees CAC cards.  I would gladly 
pay a reasonable fee to circumvent this password madness.

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Re: "password dot" problem

[Jim]

Rufus wrote:

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Rufus wrote:

David E. Ross wrote:

On 11/15/2014 2:01 PM, Jim wrote:

I am not expecting an answer to this question, as most of you can't
get
to this web site.

I am retired military and need to use many military web sites.  The
military is paranoid about password security and requires users to
change their passwords every 90 days (and the requirements get ever
more
complex).

I use Keepass to generate passwords, and paste the passwords into the
proper boxes.  Last week, I was told I need to change my password.
One
requirement is that the password must be between 15 and 20 characters.
I set Keepass to generate a 20-character password and meet all the
other
requirements.  I had problems getting a password, that I could use to
log in.

I found out, that in Seamonkey, when I pasted my 20-character password
into the box, it only showed 17 "password dots".  (It was cutting
off 3
characters).

When I successfully used IE, the boxes would hold 20 password dots.

Any thoughts on this?

TIA -- Jim



Try the extension Show my Password from
<http://netcat.ath.cx/extensions.html>.

After you enter the password, left-click on it twice and then twice
again.  It should highlight on the 2nd and 4th clicks.  Then
right-click
and select Show Password from the pull-down context menu.  If you do
not
see Show Password in the menu, left-click twice more.

Be careful about not moving your cursor or clicking your mouse while
viewing your password.  Otherwise, it will revert to dots.



Still begs the question - what is the longest Password string that SM
will store natively, and what is the longest one it will display in
hidden presentation?  And is there any difference between the two?

Those answers would be good general knowledge for a user to know - I
feel the OP's pain...


Interesting questions, but I don't see anything in the OP's post about
storing the password in SM. (the military probably wouldn't like that --
I'd treat it the same as my bank passwords, which I never save on any
computer). He only says he pasted it into SeaMonkey.



I think it's implied that he's using the SM Password Manager in that
he's asking about the dots - and I would also be surprised that he
would/could be allowed to use SM on a gov-controlled system, so I have
to assume he's using it on his own private machine to access VA benefit
sites and such where he would still have the requirement to refresh his
passwords.

...sooo...back to my question(s) - what is the longest Password string
that SM will store natively, and what is the longest one it will display
in hidden presentation?  And is there any difference between the two?

And in addition - what is the longest string SM will even allow as input?

I am not using SM's password manager, and this is my own PC, not the 
govt's.  Sorry -- been away from the forums for a few days.

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Re: "password dot" problem

[Jim]

NoOp wrote:

On 11/15/2014 02:01 PM, Jim wrote:

I am not expecting an answer to this question, as most of you can't get
to this web site.

I am retired military and need to use many military web sites.  The
military is paranoid about password security and requires users to
change their passwords every 90 days (and the requirements get ever more
complex).

I use Keepass to generate passwords, and paste the passwords into the
proper boxes.  Last week, I was told I need to change my password.  One
requirement is that the password must be between 15 and 20 characters.
I set Keepass to generate a 20-character password and meet all the other
requirements.  I had problems getting a password, that I could use to
log in.

I found out, that in Seamonkey, when I pasted my 20-character password
into the box, it only showed 17 "password dots".  (It was cutting off 3
characters).

When I successfully used IE, the boxes would hold 20 password dots.

Any thoughts on this?

TIA -- Jim



Don't know the answer to the maximum password length - I thought it was
256, you can file a bug report if you're only getting 17.

Curious about which sites are requiring 20 char passwords - I use
ebenefits.va.gov (portal to multiple sites), myhealth.va.gov etc., and
have yet to find one that requires 20 chars or more. Biggest problem
that I have with those sites are their security certificates are self
issued and often are screwed up.



The sites are -- logging into the tricare portal through tricareonline, 
and DoD Self-Service logon (https://www.dmdc.osd.mil/dsaccess/).  These 
two sites work together.  When you're password expires, it sends you the 
the second site to change your password.


They don't require a 20 character password -- I think anything from 15 
to 20 characters is acceptable.  -- I went to a smaller password than 20 
to solve the problem.  Just brought this subject up for discussion -- 
that's all.

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king soopers not compatible with sm

[Jim]

Yesterday, when I went on the King Soopers web site 
(www.kingsoopers.com) I kept getting the message that my browser is out 
of date (it isn't).


I emailed their customer service web site support and got this reply:

"Thank you for contacting Customer Connect regarding website issues. 
Unfortunately, the King Soopers website is only complatible with Google 
Chrome, Mozilla Firefox, Internet Explorer and Safari. I do apologize 
for the inconvenience this has caused you.


I hope that you find this information helpful. If I can be of further 
assistance, please simply respond to this email or call 1-800-576-4377."


==
(Can you hear my eyes rolling?)

They also sent me a customer survey form -- got plenty of coal for them 
this Christmas.


BTW, yesterday was the first time I had this problem with their site -- 
may have been a fluke.


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Re: king soopers not compatible with sm

[Jim]

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Jim wrote:


Yesterday, when I went on the King Soopers web site
(www.kingsoopers.com) I kept getting the message that my browser is
out of date (it isn't).


You can browse the site normally if you click the link, "To continue
without upgrading, click here."

They set a cookie called "bypassUnsupportedBrowser" so you won't be
nagged on every click -- until, of course, you clear the cookie.

I did that yesterday ("continue without upgrading"), but I received that 
same warning about 3 times total while on that site.


My browser is set to "Accept all cookies", and under retention, "Accept 
cookies normally".


Will see if it continues to do it today.
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paste conversations, including graphics, to draft email

[jim]

has the latest release of seamonkey disabled the ability to paste facebook
conversations, including graphics,  to a draft email?
me, under win 7:
version 2.32

You are currently on the release update channel.
See a list of contributors to the Mozilla Project.
Read the licensing information for this product.
Read the release notes for this version.
See the build configuration used for this version.
User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:35.0)
Gecko/20100101 Firefox/35.0 SeaMonkey/2.32
Build identifier: 20150112201917

thanks,

jim
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Re: paste conversations, including graphics, to draft email

[jim]

On Wed, 04 Feb 2015 14:08:35 -0700, NFN Smith  in
mozilla.support.seamonkey wrote:

>jim wrote:
>> has the latest release of seamonkey disabled the ability to paste facebook
>> conversations, including graphics,  to a draft email?
>> me, under win 7:
>
>Are you composing as HTML or plain text?  I'm not seeing any problems 
>with pasting graphical content into HTML, but there's no capacity for 
>graphics in text-only.
>
>For me, I have Seamonkey set to use text-only as a default, and on the 
>occasions that I need rich text or embedded graphics, I sometimes forget 
>to press the shift key when I click on the Compose button, to enable HTML.
>
>Smith

Thank you for your response.

I see what you are saying, and why, but i am using HTML composition as a
default.

Pasting graphics works for single messages AND graphical pastes from the
clipboard which come from other sources, just not several messages at once
-- in other words it now appears to be application specific and as such,
is not a Seamonkey problem. 

jim

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Re: paste conversations, including graphics, to draft email

[jim]

On Fri, 06 Feb 2015 08:43:58 -0700, NFN Smith  in
mozilla.support.seamonkey wrote:

>jim wrote:
>> Pasting graphics works for single messages AND graphical pastes from the
>> clipboard which come from other sources, just not several messages at once
>> -- in other words it now appears to be application specific and as such,
>> is not a Seamonkey problem.
>
>
>In that case, it seems that the problem is application-specific limits 
>on the capacity of graphical capture, and what you can do with getting 
>stuff into the Windows Clipboard.  I'm assuming that you're using the 
>standard Windows Alt-PrtScrn approach.
>
>Are you able to paste stuff into other tools that support graphics, such 
>as WordPad?
>
>If not, you may want to try some other tool for capturing, such as the 
>Windows Snipping tool, or a third-party util, such as PicPick.
>
>Smith


Standard Windows Prtscreen works fine.  As does the snipping tool which i
have begun using.  My guess is that is because those two things do not
respect, but do destroy any segment delimiters that previously existed in
the captured image, and the fact that they do work reinforces my other
thoughts that it is the delimiters in segments of a web page that are
causing the transfer problems of social media conversations. 

Thanks for your interest.  I consider the matter closed at this time.

jim
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receiving emails - how to put images in proper place

[Jim]

I have a lot of friends who like to send me junk mail, etc, which I feel 
compelled to read (or sometimes enjoy reading).


One problem I have more and more often, is that they send an email with 
images, but in the email, there are only blank places where the images 
are supposed to go, and the images are sent as attachments (ie labeled 
part 1.2, part 1.3, etc).


Is there any way to populate the message with the attached images? (So 
that I don't have to look at all the images, and try to figure out where 
they're supposed to go in the message).

(Does this make sense what I'm saying?)

Jim
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Re: receiving emails - how to put images in proper place

[Jim]

Bill Spikowski wrote:

G. Ross wrote:

Jim wrote:

I have a lot of friends who like to send me junk mail, etc, which I feel
compelled to read (or sometimes enjoy reading).

One problem I have more and more often, is that they send an email with
images, but in the email, there are only blank places where the images
are supposed to go, and the images are sent as attachments (ie labeled
part 1.2, part 1.3, etc).

Is there any way to populate the message with the attached images? (So
that I don't have to look at all the images, and try to figure out where
they're supposed to go in the message).
(Does this make sense what I'm saying?)

Jim


Click on "View" at the top of the screen, and check "View attachments
inline".


If "View attachments inline" doesn't help, start paying attention to who
is sending you these particular emails; it may be that their email
software is causing this problem. Outlook is notorious for sending
attachments in proprietary formats that other email software can't decode.

I set "view attachments inline".  Now, at least, the images show up at 
the bottom of the pages (but still not in the right place).  Will see 
what email app they are sending messages with.  One of them is using a 
Palm Pilot (which may be the problem).


Jim
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Re: receiving emails - how to put images in proper place

[Jim]

Daniel wrote:


Jim, you can set up your SeaMonkey to display what your friends are
using to post their e-mails to you with by changing one of your
preferences.

1.  Enter about:config in your browser address bar.
2.  Accept the "Danger Will Robinson" warning, if you are happy.
3.  Enter "user agent" in the "Search" bar.
4.  One of the prefs displaying should be "mailnews.headers.showUserAgent".
5.  Double click on this so that its "Status" changes to "user set" and
its "Value" is set to "true".
6.  Re-start SeaMonkey and, in the headers of the e-mail, and these
newsgroup posts, as well as "Subject::", "From:", "Date:" and "To:"
lines, you should see a "User-Agent:" line which indicates what your
correspondents are using.

HTH

Daniel

Hmmm -- I did that, and only about 20 or 30 percent of the emails show a 
User Agent line.


Jim
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video problem fixed itself

[Jim]

A few months ago, I posted a problem I had with Fox News videos -- they 
would not play, the video would just turn and stay black.  I received no 
help on this forum -- also emailed foxnews technical support, and they 
didn't have a clue.  I did not have the problem using MS Edge.


Well today, all of a sudden the videos started playing correctly again 
-- go figure.

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pinball game won't work in seamonkey

[Jim]

The online pinball game http://letsplay.ouigo.com/ won't work in 
SeaMonkey, but it works OK in other browsers.  You have to press the A 
and P (or L) keys to flip the flippers.  Unfortunately, when you (or I) 
press these keys in SM during game play, SM automatically opens the 
search window instead, and looks for these letters in the web page.

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Re: pinball game won't work in seamonkey

[Jim]

Ed Mullen wrote:

On 11/12/2017 at 12:24 PM, Ray_Net created this epitome of digital genius:

Jim wrote on 12-11-17 17:19:
The online pinball game http://letsplay.ouigo.com/ won't work in 
SeaMonkey, but it works OK in other browsers.  You have to press the 
A and P (or L) keys to flip the flippers.  Unfortunately, when you 
(or I) press these keys in SM during game play, SM automatically 
opens the search window instead, and looks for these letters in the 
web page.
Work perfectly for me : Win10 pro - User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows 
NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:49.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/49.0 SeaMonkey/2.46


Edit - Preferences - Advanced - uncheck Find automatically ...

Thanks -- that fixed the problem -- BTW, I never checked that option, so 
that must have been checked by default.

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Re: pinball game won't work in seamonkey

[Jim]

WaltS48 wrote:

On 11/12/17 11:19 AM, Jim wrote:
The online pinball game http://letsplay.ouigo.com/ won't work in 
SeaMonkey, but it works OK in other browsers.  You have to press the A 
and P (or L) keys to flip the flippers.  Unfortunately, when you (or 
I) press these keys in SM during game play, SM automatically opens the 
search window instead, and looks for these letters in the web page.


Um, Thanks for the time sink! I already waste enough online, but being a 
former pinball machine tech, love to play.


Works fine in Firefox.


I fixed the problem per my other post.
OT -- This pinball game appears to have been written by a branch of the 
French government to promote its new hi-speed rail service.  My French 
is a bit rusty, but I think you can actually win a free ticket by 
playing the game (I doubt if airfare from the US is included).
Also, I noticed that the play is a lot faster when using Firefox, than 
when using Chrome, although Chrome is a bit smoother.  And I can get 
higher scores in Firefox, because of this.
From what I read, I think they actually have produced a physical 
pinball machine equivalent to the on-line version. /OT

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one profile loads google very slowly

[Jim]

I have 5 SM profiles set up on my PC.  Even though my PC is 6 years old 
and has slowed down considerably from when I first got it (probably one 
factor is that Intel did not write a driver for Intel RST for my chipset 
for Windows 10).  Anyway, when I go to www.google.com with my profile, 
the web page loads pretty much instantaneously (even though I cleared 
the cache, history, etc, etc before opening it, so it would not use 
cached info).  My daughter has www.google.com as her home page, and it 
takes forever to load.  I think we have the same add-ons, although I'm 
running noscripts, and she is not.  However, I have allowed all scripts 
for the Google page on my browser.  Any ideas?  I'm considering deleting 
and recreating her profile, to see if that helps.

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Re: one profile loads google very slowly

[Jim]

(Nuno Silva) wrote:

On 2017-12-03, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:


Jim wrote:


I have 5 SM profiles set up on my PC. Even though my PC is 6 years
old and has slowed down considerably from when I first got it
(probably one factor is that Intel did not write a driver for Intel
RST for my chipset for Windows 10). Anyway, when I go to
www.google.com with my profile, the web page loads pretty much
instantaneously (even though I cleared the cache, history, etc, etc
before opening it, so it would not use cached info). My daughter has
www.google.com as her home page, and it takes forever to load. I
think we have the same add-ons, although I'm running noscripts, and
she is not. However, I have allowed all scripts for the Google page
on my browser. Any ideas? I'm considering deleting and recreating
her profile, to see if that helps.


Probably simpler/easier/more effective to clear her cache and
cookies. If that doesn't work, then you can consider more draconian
measures.


I'd also compare the preferences set in prefs.js between the two
profiles.

If you find out what is causing the slowdown, please share. I'd be
interested to hear...

Sorry -- couldn't find out what was slowing it down.  So I took the 
"more draconian" measures of deleting the profile and recreating it, and 
that fixed the problem.  I set Google again as my daughter's home page, 
and it works fine now.  When I deleted her profile, I clicked on "delete 
files" and it deleted her profile.  I thought they were two separate 
options (delete files and delete profile), but I guess not.  My daughter 
had a different theme than me, so wonder if that had anything to do with 
it.  She only uses my PC when she comes over to visit, and had next to 
nothing stored under her profile, so reinstalling it wasn't a problem. 
BTW, I'm using SM 2.49.1 with W10.

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Re: one profile loads google very slowly

[Jim]

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Jim wrote:

(Nuno Silva) wrote:

On 2017-12-03, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:


Jim wrote:


I have 5 SM profiles set up on my PC. Even though my PC is 6 years
old and has slowed down considerably from when I first got it
(probably one factor is that Intel did not write a driver for Intel
RST for my chipset for Windows 10). Anyway, when I go to
www.google.com with my profile, the web page loads pretty much
instantaneously (even though I cleared the cache, history, etc, etc
before opening it, so it would not use cached info). My daughter has
www.google.com as her home page, and it takes forever to load. I
think we have the same add-ons, although I'm running noscripts, and
she is not. However, I have allowed all scripts for the Google page
on my browser. Any ideas? I'm considering deleting and recreating
her profile, to see if that helps.


Probably simpler/easier/more effective to clear her cache and
cookies. If that doesn't work, then you can consider more draconian
measures.


I'd also compare the preferences set in prefs.js between the two
profiles.

If you find out what is causing the slowdown, please share. I'd be
interested to hear...

Sorry -- couldn't find out what was slowing it down.  So I took the 
"more draconian" measures of deleting the profile and recreating it, ...


So you never tried the cache/cookies thing? Or didn't it help?


I tried it before I made my original post on SM, and it didn't help.
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seamonkey unsupported at kroger.com

[Jim]

Hi all --

This just started happening a few weeks ago.
When I go to www.kroger.com, -- it tells me I have an unsupported 
browser.  When I click the button that says "To continue without 
upgrading, please click HERE", it correctly opens up www.kroger.com.


But when I click on "digital coupons"  on the top right menu, it goes 
back to the "unsupported" page again.
I emailed their customer service, and they said I need to use one of the 
browsers mentioned.  The only other browser I have on this PC is "The 
Edge", and that's not supported either.  So I need to go to the site on 
one of my other devices which has a "supported browser".


Assistance please?
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Re: seamonkey unsupported at kroger.com

[Jim]

Jonathan N. Little wrote:

TCW wrote:

On 2/23/2018 8:54 AM, Jim wrote:

Hi all --

This just started happening a few weeks ago.
When I go to www.kroger.com, -- it tells me I have an unsupported 
browser.  When I click the button that says "To continue without 
upgrading, please click HERE", it correctly opens up www.kroger.com.


But when I click on "digital coupons"  on the top right menu, it goes 
back to the "unsupported" page again.
I emailed their customer service, and they said I need to use one of 
the browsers mentioned.  The only other browser I have on this PC is 
"The Edge", and that's not supported either.  So I need to go to the 
site on one of my other devices which has a "supported browser".


Assistance please?


Have you tried bumping up to SM 2.49.2?


Nope doesn't work for the digital coupons section. As I posted stupid 
useragent string sniffing. This does work.


about:config

create new string key named:
general.useragent.override.kroger.softcoin.com

value:
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/52.0

fixes, and then complain to support.

<http://geckoisgecko.org/>

Well, I tried that, and that works!!!  I didn't know you could create a 
new string in about:config

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problems sending email

[Jim]

This afternoon, I started having problems sending email.

I get the message "An error occurred while sending mail. The mail server 
responded:  5.1.0 Authentication required.  Please verify that your 
email address is correct in your Mail preferences and try again."


The email address appears to be correct.
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Re: problems sending email

[Jim]

David E. Ross wrote:

On 10/3/2019 2:27 PM, Jim wrote:

This afternoon, I started having problems sending email.

I get the message "An error occurred while sending mail. The mail server
responded:  5.1.0 Authentication required.  Please verify that your
email address is correct in your Mail preferences and try again."

The email address appears to be correct.



Check to make sure that your currently selected account is the correct
one for you "From" E-mail address.  And vice-versa, make sure that your
"correct" E-mail address is really the one for the account.

I get your problem when I try to send E-mail while my currently selected
account is a newsgroup account.

I tried that and it is correct.  Plus it was working OK last night, and 
just started acting up today.  Do you think something got corrupted on 
my PC?  Or my ISP is having troubles?

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Re: problems sending email

[Jim]

**Solved**
jcteyssi...@gmail.com wrote:

Le vendredi 4 octobre 2019 11:18:53 UTC+2, Don Spam's Reckless Son a écrit :

David E. Ross wrote:

On 10/3/2019 2:59 PM, Jim wrote:

David E. Ross wrote:

On 10/3/2019 2:27 PM, Jim wrote:

This afternoon, I started having problems sending email.

I get the message "An error occurred while sending mail. The mail server
responded:  5.1.0 Authentication required.  Please verify that your
email address is correct in your Mail preferences and try again."

The email address appears to be correct.



Check to make sure that your currently selected account is the correct
one for you "From" E-mail address.  And vice-versa, make sure that your
"correct" E-mail address is really the one for the account.

I get your problem when I try to send E-mail while my currently selected
account is a newsgroup account.


I tried that and it is correct.  Plus it was working OK last night, and
just started acting up today.  Do you think something got corrupted on
my PC?  Or my ISP is having troubles?



If everything at your end appears okay, yes call your ISP.  Either the
authentication process on their server is bad, or else they may have
made an unannounced change to the setup they require you to have.  I
have experienced both of those situations, a bad authentication process
on the server more often than an unannounced change.



I have an account which occasionally complains when I'm trying to *read*
mail, the next day it will be fine again.  Not a big deal because
nothing important comes in that way.
To unannounced changes, look at the instructions for setting up
Thunderbird on your mail-provider's website.  They may not have mailed
you about upcoming changes but they will have documented the
requirements there - unless they are complete idiots (always a
possibility).  In my case I have 6 accounts with 5 mail providers and
only one of the four who changed their authentication process told me in
advance, they had all updated their documentation though.  I believe
they had offered the new variation for quite a while before they turned
the old one off.

--
spammus ergo sum, viruses courtesy of https://www.nsa.gov/malware/


One of my mail account was suddenly telling the password was wrong last week.
After waiting some days to see if it will be corrected on provider's side 
(nothing change on my side; sometimes it occurs... and is corrected a pair of 
hour later)

I connect with web interface to my mail and i was warned to change my password: provider's 
security have changed (without notice! i blame them for this; they can change but will have to 
notice users BEFORE) and the password have to be longer, with letters, numbers, non 
alphanumeric characters (but strangely, a very few is allowed: > is, < is not :D) my 
old one (since years... was "only" six letters.

Works perfectly now.
I found the problem.  I called Comcast tech support and they were of no 
help -- they thought something was wrong with my password.  I found that 
my connection security was set to "none", so I set that to "SSL/TLS" and 
authentication method to "Normal Password" and it works.  It's funny -- 
it worked the day before I posted this message -- I hope they didn't let 
me use these settings since I set up my PC (in 2011).

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Re: Migrating SM 1.x to SM 2.0 -- Personal toolbar

[jim]

On Wed, 25 Nov 2009 09:29:34 +0200, John Doue  in
mozilla.support.seamonkey wrote:

>jim wrote:
>> Windows XP sp2
>> Seamonkey 2.0
>> 
>> With  much travail (not really, just time) it is done -- the personal
>> toolbar, (folders and icons, probably over a hundred bookmarks) from SM
>> 1.x is now display properly in SM 2.0.
>> 
>> I doubt that the format of bookmarks.html changed for 1.x to 2.0, but if
>> it did it is backward compatible.
>> 
>> I have no idea if the un-installation (complete) of SM 1.x trashed its
>> bookmarks.html because mine were pointed to a second level subdirectory
>> instead of six or so levels down.  Mine Use a prefs.js entry:
>> 
>> browser.bookmarks.file;C:\program files\sharedbookmarks\bookmarks_sm.html
>> 
>> (That's a user set string for about:config.)  
>> 
>> For years I had shared them with Firefox and simply had to be aware of who
>> was rewriting the file last to keep them synched.  I haven't for a while. 
>> 
>> I note that the header from prefs.js has finally been changed from
>> "" to "# Mozilla User Preferences"
>> 
>> FACE
>> 
>> 
>I am not sure if there is a question in your post but, you mention you 
>share bookmarks between SM 1.xx and Firefox. Obviously, this was not FF 
>version 3 since, then, the format of bookmarks changed completely and 
>this is no longer possible the way you did it.
>
>Interesting your used this prefs.js entry about bookmarks. I had a 
>different strategy, sharing SM 1.xx's and FF 2.xx"s : I launched FF and 
>SM (not at the same time, of course) via a batch file that checked the 
>date and time of the bookmarks file and copied it over in case the 
>bookmarks of the launched application were older. A little more 
>complicated than your approach.

Yes, it sounds like your approach was more 'in-depth' than mine, which was
of a more experimental nature in the vein of "I can, therefore I will"

As to your original statement note that I said "had shared". :-)

Yesterday morning, after I had written this, I bit the bullet so to speak
and went into prefs.js and pointed SM 2.0's bookmarks location
to my latest SM 1.1.x bookmarks file.  Worked great, less filling -- the
personal toolbar of a hundred or so bookmarks automagically repopulated.



Otherwise, I am stymied on the outgoing server properties, I have a
feeling it is ATT-Yahoo's servers now...
I have tried the known fixes and a couple of permutations to no avail.

IOW, in SM 2.0 I can receive like gangbusters, but can not send a
thing


I just used OE 5.0 (yuk!) in a virtual machine to send email after SM 1.0.
(no kidding, release January, 2006)in that machine failed on send.

jim  


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Re: SMTP parameter in SM2 after having migrated from SM1

[jim]

On Wed, 25 Nov 2009 01:21:57 +0100, Martin Freitag
 in mozilla.support.seamonkey wrote:

>jim schrieb:
>> I took your suggestions -- including creating a new account form scratch
>> and making it default.  the problem persists..
>
>Not a new account, a new SMTP server and associate it with he old account.
>The problem itself seems to be a known bug on migration, have a look at 
>the other threads around here. ;-)
>regards
>
>Martin

Thank you I misunderstood your instruction on that aspect

Will do.

jim

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Re: 2.0 is buggy as hell and I'm not going to use it anymore

[jim]

On Tue, 3 Nov 2009 07:29:08 -0800 (PST), Jim
 in mozilla.support.seamonkey wrote:

>I'm extremely disappointed in Seamonkey 2.0.  The mail program bugs
>are too severe to warrant continued use. ... Until the major bugs are fixed,
>I'll stick with version 1.18.

I agree.

jim

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Re: SMTP parameter in SM2 after having migrated from SM1

[jim]

On Wed, 25 Nov 2009 19:49:39 -0500, Bill Davidsen  in
mozilla.support.seamonkey wrote:

>jim wrote:
>> On Tue, 24 Nov 2009 13:09:40 +0100, obones  in
>> mozilla.support.seamonkey wrote:
>> 
>>> Hello all,
>>>
>>> I'm currently reviewing SM2 and when I installed it I told it to import 
>>> the settings from my existing SM1 installation.
>>> All email accounts got imported, along with the SMTP server definition.
>>> While I can send emails just fine in SM1, I always get an error when 
>>> sending emails with SM2.
>>> The error says this:
>>>
>>> Unable to authenticate to SMTP server SERVER_NAME. The serer does not 
>>> support any compatible insecure authentication mechanism but you have 
>>> chosen insecure authentication. Try switching on secure authentication 
>>> or contact your service provider.
>>>
>>> I tried turning on TLS or even SSL, but none of these are provided by 
>>> the given server.
>>> What I find weird is that it worked and continues to work fine in SM1.
>>> Obviously, some option has been removed/disabled in SM2, but which one?
>>> Is there a way to reactivate it?
>>>
>>> Thanks
>> 
>> My situation is that I can receive just gangbusters with SM2.  But it
>> refuses to send, giving the SMTP-AUTH message.  However, the server
>> settings show no security, no Auth.
>> 
>> Let me know if you get it working and most of all, how you did it.
>> 
>I think that may be your problem, you have to match your settings to the 
>server, 
>if it wants auth you have to provide it. Since I don't know what your server 
>wants I can't be sure, but there's a reasonable possibility that you need to 
>configure auth. Not only that, but secure auth, like TLS+SSL (I forget the 
>exact 
>choice in the list), but it's not the checkbox, it's the menu about 1/3 down 
>the 
>screen.

Thanks.  I will try that one.

jim

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Re: about:config

[jim]

On Sun, 01 Nov 2009 23:09:33 -0800, "David E. Ross"
 in mozilla.support.seamonkey wrote:

>On 11/1/2009 10:02 PM, Hartmut Figge wrote:
>> David E. Ross:
>>> On 11/1/2009 6:29 PM, Phillip Jones wrote:
>> 
>> [about:config]
>>>> But it can be useful in the hands of an _experienced_ user
>> 
>> Yes.
>> 
>>> And it could be vitally necessary for developers and testers.
>> 
>> Vital? No, you can always use the user.js. ;)
>> 
>> Hartmut
>
>The "it" to which I referred would be a preference variable dictionary,
>a document for humans and not a file for software.  As a retired
>software test engineer, I know that data dictionaries were very, very
>important to both developers and testers in the projects on which I
>worked.  A preference variable dictionary would be very similar and have
>a similar role.  And just as we did not keep our data dictionaries
>secret from our end-users, a preference variable dictionary should not
>be kept from SeaMonkey users.


Levels of user usage..

This is an old message, but what the heck.

Some people are only concerned 'that' something works.  They really don't
care 'how' it works.  And having a glimmer to some level of the 'how'
makes the upper things a lot easier to deal with.

But the 'how' has several levels too.

So which level do you want to hang your hat on?

"User.js" is not the end file.  If I remember correctly it is an auxiliary
file to prefs.js.  Prefs.js is read into memory when the application is
booted and pulls in user.js as a tag-a-long to be made a part thereof.
Or maybe they are two different physical memory files or maybe it really
doesn't make any difference to the guy who only cares 'that' it works.
The whole thing is concept with physical underpinnings

There are dictionaries of pref.js parameters on the web, and the ones I
have seen will tell you right up front they are not complete -- but my
experience is that they have a lot more information that than the gui
interface or 'help' will give you.  I would say more real, but that
depends on what you consider 'real' to be -- real is a level.

Someone said that Seamonkey was 'too complicated' for Firefox users.
How many are aware that in past releases they basically ran the same way.
What is "basically"?  On one level, you could say that the BIOS and the OS
are "basically" the same, just on different levels.   However, in
the case of SM (previously Netscape) and Firefox I am talking about some
base files being exactly or largely interchangeable...

This is mostly only by observation, and reading, that I know this so maybe
the elephant is really much like a snake..

Personally, i bemoan what is considered "computer literate" today...

I run five main browsers, more if you include linux,solaris, etc., and on
one level, they are all the same, only in different clothes, on another
level they are often unique.

I often have questions that someone else knows the answer to and for that
I am grateful.  Right now I am stymied by the SMTP-AUTH problem in the
SM2.0 release.  I do not know the answer, and in that case i am only
concerned 'that' it works.  It worked fine in the Beta version.  I
also think it is ridiculous to release something with such a major
bug.  Somebody knows the answer I seek..  It's all so
simple, i'm sure.

jim ends his epistle for today.

--

Many years ago, about 1979 or '80, an issue of Computer Weekly had a cover
reading "the Black Art of Systems Programming"  the story said that the
way things were going that we would end up with only a small group of
people who actually knew "how" things worked in computerland. 

That story has proved correct..


 

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Re: Simple or automatic way of saving bookmarks.html?

[jim]

On Fri, 27 Nov 2009 16:35:47 -0800, Richard Lane  in
mozilla.support.seamonkey wrote:

>Occasionally sm 1.1.9 performs an "illegal operation" and has to be 
>closed, when this happens my bookmarks.html file is reduced to 1kb i/o 
>140kb and the contents lost. Is there a way to preserve the contents of 
>this file with say a single stroke so that at worst only that day's 
>bookmarks are lost? The relevant file path seems to be:
>C:\Documents and Settings\Richard Lane\Application 
>Data\Mozilla\Profiles\default\3gzpjw8f.slt\bookmarks.html
>
>Dick

What a ridiculous path...

May I suggest that you move the bookmarks to a reasonable location? (See
my message of 11/24/09)

Write a batch file to copy the bookmarks file as bookmarksav or somesuch
to your desired sub directory and put that file in your start up folder.

Result will be single stroke minus one stroke.

jim
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Re: Simple or automatic way of saving bookmarks.html?

[jim]

On Sat, 28 Nov 2009 09:45:56 +0100, Ray_Net
 in mozilla.support.seamonkey wrote:

>Richard Lane wrote:
>> Occasionally sm 1.1.9 performs an "illegal operation" and has to be 
>> closed, when this happens my bookmarks.html file is reduced to 1kb i/o 
>> 140kb and the contents lost. Is there a way to preserve the contents of 
>> this file with say a single stroke so that at worst only that day's 
>> bookmarks are lost? The relevant file path seems to be:
>> C:\Documents and Settings\Richard Lane\Application 
>> Data\Mozilla\Profiles\default\3gzpjw8f.slt\bookmarks.html
>> 
>
>Create a batch file "startSM.bat" and run it to start SM:
>This batchfile will:
>1. copy the file C:\Documents and Settings\Richard Lane\Application 
>\Data\Mozilla\Profiles\default\3gzpjw8f.slt\bookmarks.html
>somewhere else.
>2. start SM
>3. exit
>
>Now you have the choice to start SM by this batchfile, when you know 
>that the bookmark is OK, or
>
>if the bookmark is not ok:
>Create and run "startOK-SM.bat" that will:
>1. copy from somewhere else the correct bookmarks.html file into 
>C:\Documents and Settings\Richard Lane\Application 
>\Data\Mozilla\Profiles\default\3gzpjw8f.slt\bookmarks.html
>2. start SM
>3. exit

Nice solution

Reading your solution I realized that in my suggestion i left out the
"restore" module of the .bat where arg 1 (&1) would be the word "restore"
and an initial check that IF .&1 == .restore then go to the restore
module.

(also, in case a bad copy has been saved as a backup, i would suggest
setting up a rotation of, say, 3 additional backups suffixed
sav1,sav2,sav3, which would require use of the "if exist" parm and rename
and delete cmds.)[1]

[1]That means that &2 will need to be sav | sav1 | sav2 | sav3 and
possibly default on  to sav1 OR that could be an argument of the
restore module which would then require interactive execution.

Surely i left something out..
 
jim 

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Re: unable to send mail

[jim]

On Sun, 29 Nov 2009 15:36:29 -0500, Bush  in
mozilla.support.seamonkey wrote:

>u...@domain.invalid wrote:
>> I am unable to send e-mail with seamonkey 2.0 when I click send it pops
>> up an box saying:
>> Sending of message failed.
>> An error occurred sending mail: Unable to authenticate to SMTP server
>> mail.bellsouth.net. It does not support authentication (SMTP-AUTH) but
>> you have chosen to use authentication. Uncheck 'Use name and password'
>> for that server or contact your service provider.
>>
>> I don't have the authenticate box checked.
>> Anyone know whats going on?
>Try to turn off SSL.. Att / Yahoo have problems with e-mail
>
>Some Jerk at Yahoo Had my webmail server set to tahoo.com instead of 
>yahoo.com. Notice the  Y is right net to the  T on the keyboard . It 
>took a few hours before att got Yahoo to correct it

By chance, was that complete server name "pop.att.yahoo.com"? 

If so, it didn't work for me.  All of my email clients (several) work off
of "mail.bellsouth.net".  (at least SM2 could *get* mail with that one.
And I am using that one for SM 1.1.18.)

jim

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Re: unable to send mail

[jim]

On Sun, 29 Nov 2009 14:51:51 -0600, u...@domain.invalid in
mozilla.support.seamonkey wrote:

>That's just it. I don't have any connection security listed (the box 
>shows none) or the authentication box checked. So why am I getting this 
>message and why won't my mail go out?

See the last suggestion to me of about two days ago -- try turning
security on.  I am going to try that when moved.  For now i have
reinstalled 1.1.18.

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Re: Seamonkey 2.0 is JUNK .

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On Sun, 29 Nov 2009 17:00:14 -0500, Bush  in
mozilla.support.seamonkey wrote:

>Please post in this newsgroup, When a Good working version of seamonkey 
>2.X is available . 2.0 is real Buggy . It needs to be Marked as   BETA
>  Time for me to go back to 1.1.18

The funny thing is, I am running the last beta version of 2.0 in another
physical machine, running XP just like my main one, with no problems.
(I have sent and received several emails with it, using the server I
mentioned a couple messages upthread.)

jim

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Re: SM2 email password problem

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On Sat, 28 Nov 2009 20:21:16 -0800, desertgal  in
mozilla.support.seamonkey wrote:

>Leonidas Jones wrote:
>> Leonidas Jones wrote:
>>> Edward wrote:
>>>> desertgal wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I'm trying to set up a POP account. It's just a regular gmail address.
>>>>> It's set up in Outlook Express on the PC but I'm trying to use SM on
>>>>> the laptop since it uses Win7. I set it up using the instructions they
>>>>> have for TB as much as I could.
>> /snip/
>> See if anything here helps:
>>
>> http://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?answer=86401
>>
>> Lee
>>
>I checked the settings, unchecked the secure authorization & it still 
>won't connect.  I went to the link above & installed the telnet client, 
>but it still comes up connection refused.  FINALLY, I just tried 
>disabling the firewall & it connected.  I guess the firewall is blocking 
>the port so I'll have to set it up to allow access.
>Thens for your help.


Did you note which port you are using for outgoing mail?  
Is it the same port as used for incoming mail?

Thanks

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Re: Seamonkey 2.0 is JUNK .

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On Sun, 29 Nov 2009 20:43:24 -0500, Bush  in
mozilla.support.seamonkey wrote:

>jim wrote:
>> On Sun, 29 Nov 2009 17:00:14 -0500, Bush  in
>> mozilla.support.seamonkey wrote:
>> 
>>> Please post in this newsgroup, When a Good working version of seamonkey 
>>> 2.X is available . 2.0 is real Buggy . It needs to be Marked as   BETA
>>>  Time for me to go back to 1.1.18
>> 
>> The funny thing is, I am running the last beta version of 2.0 in another
>> physical machine, running XP just like my main one, with no problems.
>> (I have sent and received several emails with it, using the server I
>> mentioned a couple messages upthread.)
>> 
>> jim
>> 
>I am back to Ver 1.1.18 and no more Beta problems. I'll try again after 
>version 2.5 is released

I am running 1.1.18 on my main machine as well.


But I just noticed something based on Desertgals experience.  My Windows
Firewall had no entry for Seamonkey at it's new path -- it did have the
old path..

I never uninstalled SM2.0, i just boxed the icons up in a folder and put
it over to the side.

Windows Firewall seems balky at "Add New Program" on the Exceptions tab.

jim

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Re: unable to send mail

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On Sun, 29 Nov 2009 18:28:17 -0500, chicagofan  in
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>u...@domain.invalid wrote:
>> I am unable to send e-mail with seamonkey 2.0 when I click send it pops
>> up an box saying:
>>Sending of message failed.
>> An error occurred sending mail: Unable to authenticate to SMTP server
>> mail.bellsouth.net. It does not support authentication (SMTP-AUTH) but
>> you have chosen to use authentication. Uncheck 'Use name and password'
>> for that server or contact your service provider.
>>
>> I don't have the authenticate box checked.
>> Anyone know whats going on?
>
>Under your user account's Mail/Newsgroup Menu, have you checked your 
>settings under "Outgoing Server [SMTP]"?
>
>If not, click EDIT from your toolbar/Click Mail & Newsgroups Account 
>Settings/ Click "Outgoing Server (SMTP)"/then CLICK... "EDIT" on the 
>default settings for your server.  Make sure the box is NOT checked to 
>authenticate... in that pop up box.
>
>I apologize if you have already done this,


> but there is more than one "authenticate" box in SM, and this is what 
> happened to me, 


Thanks.  I am now sending email with SM2.0.

How could I miss something so obvious. 
(oh...it wasn't that obvious. :-))

jim

>when I 
>upgraded to 2.0.  Tht box had been checked to authenticate, although it 
>wasn't needed by my ISP [or in my previous settings].  When I changed 
>this, my problems went away.  HTH someone.
>bj
>

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Re: Seamonkey 2.0 is JUNK .

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On Mon, 30 Nov 2009 11:43:01 -0800 (PST), JeffM  in
mozilla.support.seamonkey wrote:

>If more folks would use and give feedback on
>the _pre-release_ versions of SeaMonkey,
>perhaps the point-zero release wouldn't be so traumatic.
>As it is, apparently eveyone waits till the formal release
>then gets their knickers in a knot and can't wait to bitch.

All well and good, Jeff, but the problem that stymied me for several days
did not appear in the last Beta release. (Or at least the Beta version of
2.0 available for download from the official Seamonkey site about two
weeks before the certified ready for prime time point-zero release.)

That beta was installed on a different machine but one running the same
operating system as the one where I installed the official 2.0 which would
not send email for several days.

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Re: Wanted: 'Copy image location' on image context menu

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On Sun, 29 Nov 2009 00:03:41 +0530, Rex
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wrote:

>Jens Hatlak wrote:
>> Rex wrote:
>>> If I want to copy the link of an image in SM2, it's a rather tedious
>>> process- rightclick->properties, then drag to select n copy the link
>>> from the dialog that pops up.
>>
>> You'll find that Copy Image copies both the source URL and the image
>> itself to the clipboard, except for Linux where this is currently
>> broken. See Bug 469481. I tried to add Copy Image Location for all
>> platforms there but it was not accepted. Once the Linux core issue is
>> fixed the extra context menu item there will probably be removed again.
>>
>
>>
>Cool, I didn't know that! Makes more sense actually..
>Thanks for the tip.
>
 
Yes, it is cool.  I wonder which other email clients will do that.  I have
been using it for some time to transport images from web sites...

I discovered it by accident a coupla years ago...

Windows users should keep in mind that the 'printscreen' key sends a copy
of your entire current desktop to the clipboard and alt-printscreen sends
the current active window (such as a dialogue box) to clipboard from where
it can be pasted directly into an email or other application.  

I usually use ctrl-v to paste.

jim


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Re: SMTP parameter in SM2 after having migrated from SM1

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On Mon, 30 Nov 2009 22:40:24 -0500, rocek  in
mozilla.support.seamonkey wrote:

>jim wrote:
>> On Wed, 25 Nov 2009 19:49:39 -0500, Bill Davidsen  in
>> mozilla.support.seamonkey wrote:
>> 
>>> jim wrote:
>>>> On Tue, 24 Nov 2009 13:09:40 +0100, obones  in
>>>> mozilla.support.seamonkey wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hello all,
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm currently reviewing SM2 and when I installed it I told it to import 
>>>>> the settings from my existing SM1 installation.
>>>>> All email accounts got imported, along with the SMTP server definition.
>>>>> While I can send emails just fine in SM1, I always get an error when 
>>>>> sending emails with SM2.
>>>>> The error says this:
>>>>>
>>>>> Unable to authenticate to SMTP server SERVER_NAME. The serer does not 
>>>>> support any compatible insecure authentication mechanism but you have 
>>>>> chosen insecure authentication. Try switching on secure authentication 
>>>>> or contact your service provider.
>>>>>
>>>>> I tried turning on TLS or even SSL, but none of these are provided by 
>>>>> the given server.
>>>>> What I find weird is that it worked and continues to work fine in SM1.
>>>>> Obviously, some option has been removed/disabled in SM2, but which one?
>>>>> Is there a way to reactivate it?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks
>>>> My situation is that I can receive just gangbusters with SM2.  But it
>>>> refuses to send, giving the SMTP-AUTH message.  However, the server
>>>> settings show no security, no Auth.
>>>>
>>>> Let me know if you get it working and most of all, how you did it.
>>>>
>>> I think that may be your problem, you have to match your settings to the 
>>> server, 
>>> if it wants auth you have to provide it. Since I don't know what your 
>>> server 
>>> wants I can't be sure, but there's a reasonable possibility that you need 
>>> to 
>>> configure auth. Not only that, but secure auth, like TLS+SSL (I forget the 
>>> exact 
>>> choice in the list), but it's not the checkbox, it's the menu about 1/3 
>>> down the 
>>> screen.
>> 
>> Thanks.  I will try that one.
>> 
>> jim
>> 
>I am experiencing similar problems, and went so far as to ask our 
>systems people at the University of Delaware to check it out; they 
>downloaded Seamonkey 2.0 and couldn't get it to work with our servers 
>with any combination of settings (Seamonkey 1.x worked fine).  I also 
>have been unable to get the SMTP settings to work with Speakeasy's SMTP 
>server (my isp), which had no problem with Seamonkey 1.x; I tried 
>authentication on and off, as well as playing with multiple options.  So 
>far, the only SMTP server that's worked for me is google.  Are there 
>some compatibility issues in the new setting options?  Thanks for any 
>suggesitonsTom

After being stymied for several days, this is what worked for me, OI am
borrowing the original message and my reply from "chicagofan":



>Under your user account's Mail/Newsgroup Menu, have you checked your 
>settings under "Outgoing Server [SMTP]"?
>
>If not, click EDIT from your toolbar/Click Mail & Newsgroups Account 
>Settings/ Click "Outgoing Server (SMTP)"/then CLICK... "EDIT" on the 
>default settings for your server.  Make sure the box is NOT checked to 
>authenticate... in that pop up box.
>
>I apologize if you have already done this,


> but there is more than one "authenticate" box in SM, and this is what 
> happened to me, 


Thanks.  I am now sending email with SM2.0.

How could I miss something so obvious. 
(oh...it wasn't that obvious. :-))

jim




Hoping it works for ya.

jim
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