Re: Can't copy/paste from Firefox (but can from IE?)
prudorit wrote: Good day - hoping someone can help me out. Long-time SeaMonkey user, using it as a web copy editor. I used to be able to copy & paste copy with embedded links from a Firefox page onto the SeaMonkey editor page with the links still embedded. Now, when I try this, I get the text only pasted with no links embedded. Strangely, when I copy/paste from IE, the links remain embedded in the copy. Thanks, in advance, for your help. Simple, use SeaMonkey. SeaMonkey browser to SeaMonkey editor page links still embedded. -- Take care, Jonathan --- LITTLE WORKS STUDIO http://www.LittleWorksStudio.com ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Can't copy/paste from Firefox (but can from IE?)
Good day - hoping someone can help me out. Long-time SeaMonkey user, using it as a web copy editor. I used to be able to copy & paste copy with embedded links from a Firefox page onto the SeaMonkey editor page with the links still embedded. Now, when I try this, I get the text only pasted with no links embedded. Strangely, when I copy/paste from IE, the links remain embedded in the copy. Thanks, in advance, for your help. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Amount of bytes for a picture different between attached and copy/paste ?
mozilla-lists.mbou...@spamgourmet.com wrote on 16/01/2016 23:12: Ray_Net wrote: mozilla-lists.mbou...@spamgourmet.com wrote on 16/01/2016 13:27: Mason83 wrote: On 15/01/2016 23:29, Ray_Net wrote: The last question could be: How can we modify a parameter in SM in such a way that we can modify the compression force when inserted in an html mail ? In about:support "Extensions", do you see these extensions? Auto Resize Image Auto Compress File Auto Resize JPEG The documentation for what you are doing is probably this: http://kb.mozillazine.org/Creating_complex_mails_with_inline_images#Drag_.26_drop_images From that link: Compared to using the "Insert" menu or drag & drop method, pasting will usually involve recoding of the image, thus may change quality and size. Thus, the other two methods are preferred to retain the original format of an image. That suggests that using Insert > Image *doesn't* recode the image. So if you want to control the compression used, perhaps the easiest way is to use an image editor (e.g. GIMP) to save a copy of the file with the desired compression, and use Insert > Image to include that file as an image in the email. GIMP or IRFANVIEW the same problem. I had created the file saving as .jpg file with 100% quality. This image on disk was added in the plain-text mail and opened with Irfanview the copy/paste into the html mail. In the both method SM creates mail-data from bits find on disk file on disk and from pixels fnd in copy/paste. When you copy/paste an image, SeaMonkey knows nothing about the file on disk and what quality it's saved with. Have you tried using Insert > Image? I haven't, but from the link Mason83 posted, it looks like that should include the file as it exists on disk. Or attach the file rather than including it in the body of the email. This is SM who do a different treatment. For the plain-text, it's only and expand and for the html mail it's a compression followed by a expansion. There's no difference between plain text and HTML emails - if you attach a file to an HTML email it should be the same as attaching it to a plain text email. The difference is between attaching a file and copy/pasting an image into the email. Gimp or Irfanview are not involved and cannot increase the length of the picture in the html mail. The settings used to save the file should have an effect if you attach the file rather than copy and pasting the image. You said "Have you tried using Insert > Image?" - yes I have just done a test. -If I don't set the "attach" option, the mail is sent without the picture, just a big empty square with the picture dimension :-) :-) :-) -If I set the "attach" option, the picture is in the mail an not present as an attachment file - So we can see it immediately without the need of manipulating an attached picture. - and now the html mail have the same length as the plain-text mail, with the picture atttached. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Amount of bytes for a picture different between attached and copy/paste ?
Mason83 wrote on 17/01/2016 13:37: On 17/01/2016 08:44, Ray_Net wrote: Just what I said :-) In fact I had done this test to prove at someone that html mail could be smaller than plain-text mail, because in plain-text mail you cannot do a copy/paste, so there MUST be an attachment, which is bigger. This guy have declared that he hate html mails because html mails have more bytes that plain-text mail .. I just give him the opposite situation. I disagree, HTML messages are necessarily larger than the plain-text equivalent, because of the formatting tags. Your demonstration wouldn't work with a lossless compressed file, such as zip or xz. Using a lossy compressed file is cheating since SM is reencoding the file. So you're comparing: plain-text + original JPEG vs HTML + lower-quality JPEG Yes, but the receiver got the same information .(the lower quality of the picture in the html mail is not a problem) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Amount of bytes for a picture different between attached and copy/paste ?
On 17/01/2016 08:44, Ray_Net wrote: > Just what I said :-) In fact I had done this test to prove at someone > that html mail could be smaller than plain-text mail, because in > plain-text mail you cannot do a copy/paste, so there MUST be an > attachment, which is bigger. This guy have declared that he hate html > mails because html mails have more bytes that plain-text mail .. I just > give him the opposite situation. I disagree, HTML messages are necessarily larger than the plain-text equivalent, because of the formatting tags. Your demonstration wouldn't work with a lossless compressed file, such as zip or xz. Using a lossy compressed file is cheating since SM is reencoding the file. So you're comparing: plain-text + original JPEG vs HTML + lower-quality JPEG Another way to minimize the size of the message is to disable base64 wrapping, and send 8-bit clean messages (which might not make it across all SMTP servers). Regards. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Amount of bytes for a picture different between attached and copy/paste ?
mozilla-lists.mbou...@spamgourmet.com wrote on 16/01/2016 13:27: Mason83 wrote: On 15/01/2016 23:29, Ray_Net wrote: The last question could be: How can we modify a parameter in SM in such a way that we can modify the compression force when inserted in an html mail ? In about:support "Extensions", do you see these extensions? Auto Resize Image Auto Compress File Auto Resize JPEG The documentation for what you are doing is probably this: http://kb.mozillazine.org/Creating_complex_mails_with_inline_images#Drag_.26_drop_images From that link: Compared to using the "Insert" menu or drag & drop method, pasting will usually involve recoding of the image, thus may change quality and size. Thus, the other two methods are preferred to retain the original format of an image. That suggests that using Insert > Image *doesn't* recode the image. So if you want to control the compression used, perhaps the easiest way is to use an image editor (e.g. GIMP) to save a copy of the file with the desired compression, and use Insert > Image to include that file as an image in the email. GIMP or IRFANVIEW the same problem. I had created the file saving as .jpg file with 100% quality. This image on disk was added in the plain-text mail and opened with Irfanview the copy/paste into the html mail. In the both method SM creates mail-data from bits find on disk file on disk and from pixels fnd in copy/paste. This is SM who do a different treatment. For the plain-text, it's only and expand and for the html mail it's a compression followed by a expansion. Gimp or Irfanview are not involved and cannot increase the length of the picture in the html mail. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Amount of bytes for a picture different between attached and copy/paste ?
On 15/01/2016 23:29, Ray_Net wrote: > The last question could be: How can we modify a parameter in SM in such > a way that we can modify the compression force when inserted in an html > mail ? In about:support "Extensions", do you see these extensions? Auto Resize Image Auto Compress File Auto Resize JPEG The documentation for what you are doing is probably this: http://kb.mozillazine.org/Creating_complex_mails_with_inline_images#Drag_.26_drop_images Regards. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Amount of bytes for a picture different between attached and copy/paste ?
Mason83 wrote on 16/01/2016 11:16: On 15/01/2016 23:29, Ray_Net wrote: The last question could be: How can we modify a parameter in SM in such a way that we can modify the compression force when inserted in an html mail ? In about:support "Extensions", do you see these extensions? Auto Resize Image Auto Compress File Auto Resize JPEG The documentation for what you are doing is probably this: http://kb.mozillazine.org/Creating_complex_mails_with_inline_images#Drag_.26_drop_images Regards. That's exactly the full explanation of my research. Thanks ! ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Amount of bytes for a picture different between attached and copy/paste ?
Mason83 wrote: On 15/01/2016 23:29, Ray_Net wrote: The last question could be: How can we modify a parameter in SM in such a way that we can modify the compression force when inserted in an html mail ? In about:support "Extensions", do you see these extensions? Auto Resize Image Auto Compress File Auto Resize JPEG The documentation for what you are doing is probably this: http://kb.mozillazine.org/Creating_complex_mails_with_inline_images#Drag_.26_drop_images From that link: Compared to using the "Insert" menu or drag & drop method, pasting will usually involve recoding of the image, thus may change quality and size. Thus, the other two methods are preferred to retain the original format of an image. That suggests that using Insert > Image *doesn't* recode the image. So if you want to control the compression used, perhaps the easiest way is to use an image editor (e.g. GIMP) to save a copy of the file with the desired compression, and use Insert > Image to include that file as an image in the email. Whatever size the file is on disk, it will add about 1.37 times that size to an email due to the encoding (assuming base64, which is usually used for binary attachments), plus a few hundred bytes of headers. So attaching a 74.8kB file will add about 103kB to the email size. Mark. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Amount of bytes for a picture different between attached and copy/paste ?
Ray_Net wrote: mozilla-lists.mbou...@spamgourmet.com wrote on 16/01/2016 13:27: Mason83 wrote: On 15/01/2016 23:29, Ray_Net wrote: The last question could be: How can we modify a parameter in SM in such a way that we can modify the compression force when inserted in an html mail ? In about:support "Extensions", do you see these extensions? Auto Resize Image Auto Compress File Auto Resize JPEG The documentation for what you are doing is probably this: http://kb.mozillazine.org/Creating_complex_mails_with_inline_images#Drag_.26_drop_images From that link: Compared to using the "Insert" menu or drag & drop method, pasting will usually involve recoding of the image, thus may change quality and size. Thus, the other two methods are preferred to retain the original format of an image. That suggests that using Insert > Image *doesn't* recode the image. So if you want to control the compression used, perhaps the easiest way is to use an image editor (e.g. GIMP) to save a copy of the file with the desired compression, and use Insert > Image to include that file as an image in the email. GIMP or IRFANVIEW the same problem. I had created the file saving as .jpg file with 100% quality. This image on disk was added in the plain-text mail and opened with Irfanview the copy/paste into the html mail. In the both method SM creates mail-data from bits find on disk file on disk and from pixels fnd in copy/paste. When you copy/paste an image, SeaMonkey knows nothing about the file on disk and what quality it's saved with. Have you tried using Insert > Image? I haven't, but from the link Mason83 posted, it looks like that should include the file as it exists on disk. Or attach the file rather than including it in the body of the email. This is SM who do a different treatment. For the plain-text, it's only and expand and for the html mail it's a compression followed by a expansion. There's no difference between plain text and HTML emails - if you attach a file to an HTML email it should be the same as attaching it to a plain text email. The difference is between attaching a file and copy/pasting an image into the email. Gimp or Irfanview are not involved and cannot increase the length of the picture in the html mail. The settings used to save the file should have an effect if you attach the file rather than copy and pasting the image. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Amount of bytes for a picture different between attached and copy/paste ?
mozilla-lists.mbou...@spamgourmet.com wrote on 16/01/2016 23:12: Ray_Net wrote: mozilla-lists.mbou...@spamgourmet.com wrote on 16/01/2016 13:27: Mason83 wrote: On 15/01/2016 23:29, Ray_Net wrote: The last question could be: How can we modify a parameter in SM in such a way that we can modify the compression force when inserted in an html mail ? In about:support "Extensions", do you see these extensions? Auto Resize Image Auto Compress File Auto Resize JPEG The documentation for what you are doing is probably this: http://kb.mozillazine.org/Creating_complex_mails_with_inline_images#Drag_.26_drop_images From that link: Compared to using the "Insert" menu or drag & drop method, pasting will usually involve recoding of the image, thus may change quality and size. Thus, the other two methods are preferred to retain the original format of an image. That suggests that using Insert > Image *doesn't* recode the image. So if you want to control the compression used, perhaps the easiest way is to use an image editor (e.g. GIMP) to save a copy of the file with the desired compression, and use Insert > Image to include that file as an image in the email. GIMP or IRFANVIEW the same problem. I had created the file saving as .jpg file with 100% quality. This image on disk was added in the plain-text mail and opened with Irfanview the copy/paste into the html mail. In the both method SM creates mail-data from bits find on disk file on disk and from pixels fnd in copy/paste. When you copy/paste an image, SeaMonkey knows nothing about the file on disk and what quality it's saved with. Have you tried using Insert > Image? I haven't, but from the link Mason83 posted, it looks like that should include the file as it exists on disk. Or attach the file rather than including it in the body of the email. Just what I said :-) In fact I had done this test to prove at someone that html mail could be smaller than plain-text mail, because in plain-text mail you cannot do a copy/paste, so there MUST be an attachment, which is bigger. This guy have declared that he hate html mails because html mails have more bytes that plain-text mail .. I just give him the opposite situation. This is SM who do a different treatment. For the plain-text, it's only and expand and for the html mail it's a compression followed by a expansion. There's no difference between plain text and HTML emails - if you attach a file to an HTML email it should be the same as attaching it to a plain text email. The difference is between attaching a file and copy/pasting an image into the email. You cannot copy/paste into a plain-text mail Gimp or Irfanview are not involved and cannot increase the length of the picture in the html mail. The settings used to save the file should have an effect if you attach the file rather than copy and pasting the image. The file was saved BEFORE any action the attach was this disk file and the copy/paste was the pixels present on IrfanView who openend the file without any modifications. As I said, GIMP or IrfanView is not involved in the length of the two method. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Amount of bytes for a picture different between attached and copy/paste ?
mozilla-lists.mbou...@spamgourmet.com wrote on 14/01/2016 23:52: Ray_Net wrote: I have just done a test: With the same picture 75Kb ... I attached this picture at a plain-text mail - length of this plain-text mail is 104 KB I copy/paste this picture in an html mail sent if both format- length of this html mail is 58,2 KB Both mails contains only "TEST" in the body. The subject of the plain-text mail is: PLAIN-TEXT-test jpg attached 75Kb The subject of the html mail is: HTML-Test So the biggest part of those two mails is the picture. 75Kb is transmitted with a 104KB plain-text mail. 75Kb is transmitted with a 58.2KB htlm mail. What is the "magic" feature who construct an html mail smaller than a plain-text one ? Attaching a file will encode it such that the recipient can get a file with the same content as you have on disk. I assume by "copy/paste this picture in an html mail" you mean you open the image in some other application, copy from there and paste into the HTML message so that the image is displayed as part of the message. In that case, SeaMonkey just gets the image data - it doesn't know anything about the file on disk that it came from (it may not even have existed on disk). SeaMonkey will save the image data in some format to attach to the email, which may or may not be the same format as your file on disk. Not knowing what format it's used in your case, it's possible that it either used JPEG with higher compression (lower quality) than you saved the file, or perhaps the nature of the image compressed better in PNG and SeaMonkey used that. Of course, if the image was resized (even if not saved) before copying, a smaller image would be pasted into SeaMonkey so would result in a smaller email. Mark. It's just a jpeg image attached directly in the plain-txt message and for the html, the jpg is just opened by Irfanview who had created this file witth a screen-copy. This file did not contain anythig else that the pixels .. this is not a photo so, no EXIF, no IPTC and no COMMENT attached to the picture. When opened with Irfanview, I did not touche the picture, no crop, no dimensions changes, no colour characteristic UNTOUCHED. Then I just do in IrfanView the "copy" command followed by the paste command into the html mail. In plain-text mail I found: --040508080703080101040301 Content-Type: image/jpeg; name="Le-Corbusier-Firminy.jpg" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="Le-Corbusier-Firminy.jpg" /9j/4AAQSkZJRgABAQAAAQABAAD/2wBDAAEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEB AQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQH/2wBDAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEB AQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQH/wAAR CAEyAcEDASIAAhEBAxEB/8QAHgAAAgEFAQEBAAcGAwQFCAkCAQr/xABYEAAB and in HTML mail I found: --090304070503060208050406 Content-Type: image/jpeg Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-ID: <part1.07050404.08040...@scarlet.be> /9j/4AAQSkZJRgABAQAAAQABAAD/2wBDAAMCAgICAgMCAgIDAwMDBAYEBAQEBAgGBgUGCQgK CgkICQkKDA8MCgsOCwkJDRENDg8QEBEQCgwSExIQEw8QEBD/2wBDAQMDAwQDBAgEBAgQCwkL EBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBD/wAAR CAEyAcEDAREAAhEBAxEB/8QAHwAAAQUBAQEBAQEAAAECAwQFBgcICQoL/8QAtRAA I suspect that SM did not encode the same way the same picture. , ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Amount of bytes for a picture different between attached and copy/paste ?
On 15/01/2016 17:45, Ray_Net wrote: > /9j/4AAQSkZJRgABAQAAAQABAAD/2wBDAAEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEB > AQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQH/2wBDAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEB > AQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQH/wAAR > CAEyAcEDASIAAhEBAxEB/8QAHgAAAgEFAQEBAAcGAwQFCAkCAQr/xABYEAAB ff d8 ff e0 00 10 4a 46 49 46 00 01 01 00 00 01 |..JFIF..| 0010 00 01 00 00 ff db 00 43 00 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 |...C| 0020 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 || 0030 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 || 0040 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 || 0050 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 ff db 00 43 01 01 01 |C...| 0060 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 || 0070 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 || 0080 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 || 0090 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 ff c0 || 00a0 00 11 08 01 32 01 c1 03 01 22 00 02 11 01 03 11 |2"..| 00b0 01 ff c4 00 1e 00 00 02 01 05 01 01 01 00 00 00 || 00c0 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 07 06 03 04 05 08 09 02 01 || 00d0 0a ff c4 00 58 10 00 01 |X...| > /9j/4AAQSkZJRgABAQAAAQABAAD/2wBDAAMCAgICAgMCAgIDAwMDBAYEBAQEBAgGBgUGCQgK > CgkICQkKDA8MCgsOCwkJDRENDg8QEBEQCgwSExIQEw8QEBD/2wBDAQMDAwQDBAgEBAgQCwkL > EBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBD/wAAR > CAEyAcEDAREAAhEBAxEB/8QAHwAAAQUBAQEBAQEAAAECAwQFBgcICQoL/8QAtRAA ff d8 ff e0 00 10 4a 46 49 46 00 01 01 00 00 01 |..JFIF..| 0010 00 01 00 00 ff db 00 43 00 03 02 02 02 02 02 03 |...C| 0020 02 02 02 03 03 03 03 04 06 04 04 04 04 04 08 06 || 0030 06 05 06 09 08 0a 0a 09 08 09 09 0a 0c 0f 0c 0a || 0040 0b 0e 0b 09 09 0d 11 0d 0e 0f 10 10 11 10 0a 0c || 0050 12 13 12 10 13 0f 10 10 10 ff db 00 43 01 03 03 |C...| 0060 03 04 03 04 08 04 04 08 10 0b 09 0b 10 10 10 10 || 0070 10 10 10 10 10 10 10 10 10 10 10 10 10 10 10 10 || 0080 10 10 10 10 10 10 10 10 10 10 10 10 10 10 10 10 || 0090 10 10 10 10 10 10 10 10 10 10 10 10 10 10 ff c0 || 00a0 00 11 08 01 32 01 c1 03 01 11 00 02 11 01 03 11 |2...| 00b0 01 ff c4 00 1f 00 00 01 05 01 01 01 01 01 01 00 || 00c0 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 01 02 03 04 05 06 07 08 09 || 00d0 0a 0b ff c4 00 b5 10 00 || Quite different indeed. Regards. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Amount of bytes for a picture different between attached and copy/paste ?
Ray_Net wrote: mozilla-lists.mbou...@spamgourmet.com wrote on 14/01/2016 23:52: Ray_Net wrote: I have just done a test: With the same picture 75Kb ... I attached this picture at a plain-text mail - length of this plain-text mail is 104 KB I copy/paste this picture in an html mail sent if both format- length of this html mail is 58,2 KB Both mails contains only "TEST" in the body. The subject of the plain-text mail is: PLAIN-TEXT-test jpg attached 75Kb The subject of the html mail is: HTML-Test So the biggest part of those two mails is the picture. 75Kb is transmitted with a 104KB plain-text mail. 75Kb is transmitted with a 58.2KB htlm mail. What is the "magic" feature who construct an html mail smaller than a plain-text one ? Attaching a file will encode it such that the recipient can get a file with the same content as you have on disk. I assume by "copy/paste this picture in an html mail" you mean you open the image in some other application, copy from there and paste into the HTML message so that the image is displayed as part of the message. In that case, SeaMonkey just gets the image data - it doesn't know anything about the file on disk that it came from (it may not even have existed on disk). SeaMonkey will save the image data in some format to attach to the email, which may or may not be the same format as your file on disk. Not knowing what format it's used in your case, it's possible that it either used JPEG with higher compression (lower quality) than you saved the file, or perhaps the nature of the image compressed better in PNG and SeaMonkey used that. Of course, if the image was resized (even if not saved) before copying, a smaller image would be pasted into SeaMonkey so would result in a smaller email. Mark. It's just a jpeg image attached directly in the plain-txt message So that will be attached exactly as it exists on disk. and for the html, the jpg is just opened by Irfanview who had created this file witth a screen-copy. This file did not contain anythig else that the pixels .. this is not a photo so, no EXIF, no IPTC and no COMMENT attached to the picture. When opened with Irfanview, I did not touche the picture, no crop, no dimensions changes, no colour characteristic UNTOUCHED. Then I just do in IrfanView the "copy" command followed by the paste command into the html mail. So SeaMonkey only gets the image data. It knows nothing of the original file on disk, so compresses it to JPEG using some quality setting etc. which may not be the same as used for the original image. It also won't have any metadata which may have been included in the original JPEG file (e.g. a preview thumbnail). In plain-text mail I found: and in HTML mail I found: I suspect that SM did not encode the same way the same picture. How do you expect SeaMonkey to know how the original file was encoded? It doesn't know where that file is, nor whether an image pasted from the clipboard even exists as a file. Using Insert > Image > Choose File /might/ lead to the file being included exactly as on disk, though I wouldn't be surprised if it still does some optimisation to reduce the size for sending by email. If you want the file to arrive with the exact same content as it has on your disk, attach it (whether to a plain text or HTML email). If the intention is only that the image is included as part of the email body (which is what it sounds like you're doing with the HTML email), is it a problem that it's not compressed exactly the same as the original file on your disk? Mark. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Amount of bytes for a picture different between attached and copy/paste ?
mozilla-lists.mbou...@spamgourmet.com wrote on 15/01/2016 22:18: Ray_Net wrote: mozilla-lists.mbou...@spamgourmet.com wrote on 14/01/2016 23:52: Ray_Net wrote: I have just done a test: With the same picture 75Kb ... I attached this picture at a plain-text mail - length of this plain-text mail is 104 KB I copy/paste this picture in an html mail sent if both format- length of this html mail is 58,2 KB Both mails contains only "TEST" in the body. The subject of the plain-text mail is: PLAIN-TEXT-test jpg attached 75Kb The subject of the html mail is: HTML-Test So the biggest part of those two mails is the picture. 75Kb is transmitted with a 104KB plain-text mail. 75Kb is transmitted with a 58.2KB htlm mail. What is the "magic" feature who construct an html mail smaller than a plain-text one ? Attaching a file will encode it such that the recipient can get a file with the same content as you have on disk. I assume by "copy/paste this picture in an html mail" you mean you open the image in some other application, copy from there and paste into the HTML message so that the image is displayed as part of the message. In that case, SeaMonkey just gets the image data - it doesn't know anything about the file on disk that it came from (it may not even have existed on disk). SeaMonkey will save the image data in some format to attach to the email, which may or may not be the same format as your file on disk. Not knowing what format it's used in your case, it's possible that it either used JPEG with higher compression (lower quality) than you saved the file, or perhaps the nature of the image compressed better in PNG and SeaMonkey used that. Of course, if the image was resized (even if not saved) before copying, a smaller image would be pasted into SeaMonkey so would result in a smaller email. Mark. It's just a jpeg image attached directly in the plain-txt message So that will be attached exactly as it exists on disk. and for the html, the jpg is just opened by Irfanview who had created this file witth a screen-copy. This file did not contain anythig else that the pixels .. this is not a photo so, no EXIF, no IPTC and no COMMENT attached to the picture. When opened with Irfanview, I did not touche the picture, no crop, no dimensions changes, no colour characteristic UNTOUCHED. Then I just do in IrfanView the "copy" command followed by the paste command into the html mail. So SeaMonkey only gets the image data. It knows nothing of the original file on disk, so compresses it to JPEG using some quality setting etc. which may not be the same as used for the original image. It also won't have any metadata which may have been included in the original JPEG file (e.g. a preview thumbnail). In plain-text mail I found: and in HTML mail I found: I suspect that SM did not encode the same way the same picture. How do you expect SeaMonkey to know how the original file was encoded? It doesn't know where that file is, nor whether an image pasted from the clipboard even exists as a file. Using Insert > Image > Choose File /might/ lead to the file being included exactly as on disk, though I wouldn't be surprised if it still does some optimisation to reduce the size for sending by email. If you want the file to arrive with the exact same content as it has on your disk, attach it (whether to a plain text or HTML email). If the intention is only that the image is included as part of the email body (which is what it sounds like you're doing with the HTML email), is it a problem that it's not compressed exactly the same as the original file on your disk? Mark. In both way, SM is obliged to manipulate the data ... With an attachment, this not an exact copy from disk to mail, because in the mail, all the data must be transformed in a big string composed of "printable" characters. But at the reception pc, If we do a save as ... the disk sended file and the disk received file will be exactly the same. With a copy/paste, this is the same except that SM perform a compression first. so the disk sended file and the disk received file will be different. I have done the test: - Saving the received picture of the inclusion in the html mail gives me a 42KB picture. - Saving the received picture of the attachment in the plain-txt mail gives me a 74,8KB picture - same length as the original file on disk. The last question could be: How can we modify a parameter in SM in such a way that we can modify the compression force when inserted in an html mail ? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Amount of bytes for a picture different between attached and copy/paste ?
Ray_Net wrote: I have just done a test: With the same picture 75Kb ... I attached this picture at a plain-text mail - length of this plain-text mail is 104 KB I copy/paste this picture in an html mail sent if both format- length of this html mail is 58,2 KB Both mails contains only "TEST" in the body. The subject of the plain-text mail is: PLAIN-TEXT-test jpg attached 75Kb The subject of the html mail is: HTML-Test So the biggest part of those two mails is the picture. 75Kb is transmitted with a 104KB plain-text mail. 75Kb is transmitted with a 58.2KB htlm mail. What is the "magic" feature who construct an html mail smaller than a plain-text one ? Attaching a file will encode it such that the recipient can get a file with the same content as you have on disk. I assume by "copy/paste this picture in an html mail" you mean you open the image in some other application, copy from there and paste into the HTML message so that the image is displayed as part of the message. In that case, SeaMonkey just gets the image data - it doesn't know anything about the file on disk that it came from (it may not even have existed on disk). SeaMonkey will save the image data in some format to attach to the email, which may or may not be the same format as your file on disk. Not knowing what format it's used in your case, it's possible that it either used JPEG with higher compression (lower quality) than you saved the file, or perhaps the nature of the image compressed better in PNG and SeaMonkey used that. Of course, if the image was resized (even if not saved) before copying, a smaller image would be pasted into SeaMonkey so would result in a smaller email. Mark. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Amount of bytes for a picture different between attached and copy/paste ?
I have just done a test: With the same picture 75Kb ... I attached this picture at a plain-text mail - length of this plain-text mail is 104 KB I copy/paste this picture in an html mail sent if both format- length of this html mail is 58,2 KB Both mails contains only "TEST" in the body. The subject of the plain-text mail is: PLAIN-TEXT-test jpg attached 75Kb The subject of the html mail is: HTML-Test So the biggest part of those two mails is the picture. 75Kb is transmitted with a 104KB plain-text mail. 75Kb is transmitted with a 58.2KB htlm mail. What is the "magic" feature who construct an html mail smaller than a plain-text one ? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Message composition window copy/paste discards formatting
Mason83 wrote on 12/2/2015 3:59 PM: Hello, This problem turned up recently (2.35? 2.38?) When I have some text in a Message Composition windows, then select that text, then copy it, then paste it in another application (such as a text editor), the formatting is messed up, with all multiple spaces collapsed into a single space, as if the text were HTML. E.g. copy the following text to a Message Composition window: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=625961#c13 1 2 34 5 2 34 5 34 5 4 5 5 00 1 1 1 1 1 1 2 2 2 2 2 2 3 3 3 3 3 3 444444 5 5 5 5 5 5 Then copy the text from the window. And paste in Notepad, it comes out like this: 1 2 3 4 5 2 3 4 5 3 4 5 4 5 5 00 1 1 1 1 1 1 2 2 2 2 2 2 3 3 3 3 3 3 4 4 4 4 4 4 5 5 5 5 5 5 which is very reminiscent of an old bug: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=625961 Can someone else replicate the issue? Are you aware of an open bug for this issue? Regards. It works if you compose in HTML mode. -- Ed Mullen http://edmullen.net/ Consider, the Bible was written by the same people who said the Earth was flat. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Message composition window copy/paste discards formatting
On 02/12/2015 23:45, Mason83 wrote: > On 02/12/2015 23:38, Paul B. Gallagher wrote: >> Mason83 wrote: >> >>> Hello, >>> >>> This problem turned up recently (2.35? 2.38?) >>> >>> When I have some text in a Message Composition windows, >>> then select that text, then copy it, then paste it in >>> another application (such as a text editor), >>> the formatting is messed up, with all multiple spaces >>> collapsed into a single space, as if the text were HTML. >>> >>> E.g. copy the following text to a Message Composition window: >>> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=625961#c13 >> >> Yep, confirmed. with 2.39. >> >> Now, the times I want to copy/paste from a MC window are few and far >> between, but yes, the bug does exist. > > OK. Will open a bug tomorrow. And will mention your confirmation. https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1230163 Regards. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Message composition window copy/paste discards formatting
When I have some text in a Message Composition windows, then select that text, then copy it, then paste it in another application (such as a text editor), the formatting is messed up, with all multiple spaces collapsed into a single space, as if the text were HTML. E.g. copy the following text to a Message Composition window: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=625961#c13 1 2 34 5 2 34 5 34 5 4 5 5 00 1 1 1 1 1 1 2 2 2 2 2 2 3 3 3 3 3 3 444444 5 5 5 5 5 5 Then copy the text from the window. And paste in Notepad, it comes out like this: 1 2 3 4 5 2 3 4 5 3 4 5 4 5 5 00 1 1 1 1 1 1 2 2 2 2 2 2 3 3 3 3 3 3 4 4 4 4 4 4 5 5 5 5 5 5 which is very reminiscent of an old bug: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=625961 Can someone else replicate the issue? Are you aware of an open bug for this issue? Regards. It works if you compose in HTML mode. Yes, but not everyone uses HTML like me. ;) Anyways, it was easy to reproduce in my SeaMonkey v2.39 in Windows XP Pro SP3. Voted since I use plain text formats a lot. :) -- "He who cannot pick up an ant, and wants to pick up an elephant will some day see his folly." --African Note: A fixed width font (Courier, Monospace, etc.) is required to see this signature correctly. /\___/\ Ant(Dude) @ http://antfarm.ma.cx (Personal Web Site) / /\ /\ \Ant's Quality Foraged Links: http://aqfl.net | |o o| | \ _ /If crediting, then use Ant nickname and AQFL URL/link. ( ) Chop ANT from its address if e-mailing privately. Ant is currently not listening to any songs on this computer. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Message composition window copy/paste discards formatting
Hello, This problem turned up recently (2.35? 2.38?) When I have some text in a Message Composition windows, then select that text, then copy it, then paste it in another application (such as a text editor), the formatting is messed up, with all multiple spaces collapsed into a single space, as if the text were HTML. E.g. copy the following text to a Message Composition window: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=625961#c13 1 2 34 5 2 34 5 34 5 4 5 5 00 1 1 1 1 1 1 2 2 2 2 2 2 3 3 3 3 3 3 444444 5 5 5 5 5 5 Then copy the text from the window. And paste in Notepad, it comes out like this: 1 2 3 4 5 2 3 4 5 3 4 5 4 5 5 00 1 1 1 1 1 1 2 2 2 2 2 2 3 3 3 3 3 3 4 4 4 4 4 4 5 5 5 5 5 5 which is very reminiscent of an old bug: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=625961 Can someone else replicate the issue? Are you aware of an open bug for this issue? Regards. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Message composition window copy/paste discards formatting
On 02/12/2015 22:58, Burry wrote: > On 02.12.15 21:59, Mason83 wrote: >> Hello, >> >> This problem turned up recently (2.35? 2.38?) >> >> When I have some text in a Message Composition windows, >> then select that text, then copy it, then paste it in >> another application (such as a text editor), >> the formatting is messed up, with all multiple spaces >> collapsed into a single space, as if the text were HTML. >> >> E.g. copy the following text to a Message Composition window: >> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=625961#c13 >> >> 1 2 34 5 >>2 34 5 >> 34 5 >> 4 5 >> 5 >> 00 >> 1 1 1 1 1 1 >>2 2 2 2 2 2 >> 3 3 3 3 3 3 >> 444444 >> 5 5 5 5 5 5 >> >> Then copy the text from the window. >> And paste in Notepad, it comes out like this: >> >> 1 2 3 4 5 >> 2 3 4 5 >> 3 4 5 >> 4 5 >> 5 >> 00 >> 1 1 1 1 1 1 >> 2 2 2 2 2 2 >> 3 3 3 3 3 3 >> 4 4 4 4 4 4 >> 5 5 5 5 5 5 >> >> which is very reminiscent of an old bug: >> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=625961 >> >> Can someone else replicate the issue? >> >> Are you aware of an open bug for this issue? >> >> Regards. >> > Copy/paste works fine here(copied from your mail > when I was reading yours.). > PASTE. > > > 1 2 34 5 >2 34 5 > 34 5 > 4 5 > 5 > 00 > 1 1 1 1 1 1 >2 2 2 2 2 2 > 3 3 3 3 3 3 > 444444 > 5 5 5 5 5 5 > The problem shows up when pasting text copied FROM a Message Composition window to anywhere else. STEPS TO REPRODUCE: 1. Copy (highlight, then CTRL-C) the test block above 2. Press CTRL-M for new Message Composition (MC) window 3. In the body of the new MC window, paste (CTRL-V) the text => formatting is intact 4. Select the text of the MC window (CTRL-A), then copy CTRL-C 5. Paste back (CTRL-V) in the MC window => formatting is lost Regards. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Message composition window copy/paste discards formatting
On 02.12.15 21:59, Mason83 wrote: Hello, This problem turned up recently (2.35? 2.38?) When I have some text in a Message Composition windows, then select that text, then copy it, then paste it in another application (such as a text editor), the formatting is messed up, with all multiple spaces collapsed into a single space, as if the text were HTML. E.g. copy the following text to a Message Composition window: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=625961#c13 1 2 34 5 2 34 5 34 5 4 5 5 00 1 1 1 1 1 1 2 2 2 2 2 2 3 3 3 3 3 3 444444 5 5 5 5 5 5 Then copy the text from the window. And paste in Notepad, it comes out like this: 1 2 3 4 5 2 3 4 5 3 4 5 4 5 5 00 1 1 1 1 1 1 2 2 2 2 2 2 3 3 3 3 3 3 4 4 4 4 4 4 5 5 5 5 5 5 which is very reminiscent of an old bug: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=625961 Can someone else replicate the issue? Are you aware of an open bug for this issue? Regards. Copy/paste works fine here(copied from your mail when I was reading yours.). PASTE. 1 2 34 5 2 34 5 34 5 4 5 5 00 1 1 1 1 1 1 2 2 2 2 2 2 3 3 3 3 3 3 444444 5 5 5 5 5 5 ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Message composition window copy/paste discards formatting
Mason83 wrote: Hello, This problem turned up recently (2.35? 2.38?) When I have some text in a Message Composition windows, then select that text, then copy it, then paste it in another application (such as a text editor), the formatting is messed up, with all multiple spaces collapsed into a single space, as if the text were HTML. E.g. copy the following text to a Message Composition window: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=625961#c13 Yep, confirmed. with 2.39. Now, the times I want to copy/paste from a MC window are few and far between, but yes, the bug does exist. -- War doesn't determine who's right, just who's left. -- Paul B. Gallagher ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Message composition window copy/paste discards formatting
On 02/12/2015 23:38, Paul B. Gallagher wrote: > Mason83 wrote: > >> Hello, >> >> This problem turned up recently (2.35? 2.38?) >> >> When I have some text in a Message Composition windows, >> then select that text, then copy it, then paste it in >> another application (such as a text editor), >> the formatting is messed up, with all multiple spaces >> collapsed into a single space, as if the text were HTML. >> >> E.g. copy the following text to a Message Composition window: >> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=625961#c13 > > Yep, confirmed. with 2.39. > > Now, the times I want to copy/paste from a MC window are few and far > between, but yes, the bug does exist. OK. Will open a bug tomorrow. And will mention your confirmation. Thanks. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: e-mail copy paste issue
hawker wrote, On 24/09/2014 00:33: On 9/23/2014 6:03 PM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote: Ray_Net wrote: Paul B. Gallagher wrote, On 22/09/2014 22:58: hawker wrote: On 9/22/2014 3:45 PM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote: hawker wrote: Just noticed a new issue in mail 2.26.1 that was not there before I updated. Perhaps it has been fixed in 2.29. I often do a replay to an email just so I can get the formatting of a message and written by. I then copy and past that into some other e-mail I am responding to. This happens when I am responding to two e-mails at once that must go to the same folks. What exactly is a replay? Give step-by-step instructions so someone else can try it. Or do you mean rePLY? If so, it works fine for me in 2.26.1, regardless of whether the source or target or both are HTML or plain text. Up to now that has worked fine. It 2.26.1 I can copy and past[e] the message body or the On mm/dd/yy HH:MM am SoandSo Wrote: but if I try to select both it won't past[e] (just blank) into the new message. Any idea what is causing this, how to fix or if it is a known bug? Nope. Yes, darn typos. I did intend to say Reply not sure how that happened. Anyway odd. Are you sure you did what I said? Let me be more clear. 1) Reply to two different messages. 2) Select the On mm/dd/yy HH:MM am SoandSo Wrote: and the message body below. 3) Hit CTRL-C (Windows machine) or CTRL-X. 4) Go to the other e-mail and hit CTRL-P to past it. I get nothing. If I only select the On mm/dd/yy HH:MM am SoandSo Wrote: or the message body but not both it works as expected. Yes, I can easily PASTE either or both into a new message. Win7 Pro SP1, SM 2.26.1. Do us a favor and disable that autocorrupt feature that keeps substituting past for paste. Have you read my reply explaining in détails how to reproduce easely this bug ? Sure. Unable to reproduce, as I said earlier. Copy works fine, paste works fine, even print (Ctrl-P) works fine. This bug is interesting. Ray - If I try your steps it works fine, however with my steps it does not work. Furthermore this bug just started at 2.26.1 and did not with whatever I was using before (probably 2.24 or around there). It sounds like your bug goes back further. So somehow this breaks for some users under some conditions only. Perhaps this bug depends on SM parameters/options ... not everybody have the same options. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: e-mail copy paste issue
Paul B. Gallagher wrote, On 24/09/2014 00:49: Ray_Net wrote: Paul B. Gallagher wrote, On 24/09/2014 00:03: Sure. Unable to reproduce, as I said earlier. Copy works fine, paste works fine, even print (Ctrl-P) works fine. Have you tested using my explanations ? I am able to reproduce at will ... same with hawker. I've already answered clearly in the negative several times, I won't repeat myself again. I CANNOT reproduce this no matter how slavishly I follow your instructions. The same goes for the new set below. Try this: I used CTRL-C to copy the beginning of a mail created by hitting forward ... And i cannot CTRL-V to a New mail. In Word or in notepad, the CTRL-V works. Unable to reproduce. Everything works fine here. There must be some crucial difference in our installation (add-ons?) or settings. I have AdBlock+, french dictionary and french language i think that those extensions is not the responsible. For the setting .. who knows ?... ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: e-mail copy paste issue
Paul B. Gallagher wrote, On 22/09/2014 22:58: hawker wrote: On 9/22/2014 3:45 PM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote: hawker wrote: Just noticed a new issue in mail 2.26.1 that was not there before I updated. Perhaps it has been fixed in 2.29. I often do a replay to an email just so I can get the formatting of a message and written by. I then copy and past that into some other e-mail I am responding to. This happens when I am responding to two e-mails at once that must go to the same folks. What exactly is a replay? Give step-by-step instructions so someone else can try it. Or do you mean rePLY? If so, it works fine for me in 2.26.1, regardless of whether the source or target or both are HTML or plain text. Up to now that has worked fine. It 2.26.1 I can copy and past[e] the message body or the On mm/dd/yy HH:MM am SoandSo Wrote: but if I try to select both it won't past[e] (just blank) into the new message. Any idea what is causing this, how to fix or if it is a known bug? Nope. Yes, darn typos. I did intend to say Reply not sure how that happened. Anyway odd. Are you sure you did what I said? Let me be more clear. 1) Reply to two different messages. 2) Select the On mm/dd/yy HH:MM am SoandSo Wrote: and the message body below. 3) Hit CTRL-C (Windows machine) or CTRL-X. 4) Go to the other e-mail and hit CTRL-P to past it. I get nothing. If I only select the On mm/dd/yy HH:MM am SoandSo Wrote: or the message body but not both it works as expected. Yes, I can easily PASTE either or both into a new message. Win7 Pro SP1, SM 2.26.1. Do us a favor and disable that autocorrupt feature that keeps substituting past for paste. Have you read my reply explaining in détails how to reproduce easely this bug ? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: e-mail copy paste issue
hawker wrote: On 9/22/2014 4:23 PM, EE wrote: hawker wrote: Just noticed a new issue in mail 2.26.1 that was not there before I updated. Perhaps it has been fixed in 2.29. I often do a replay to an email just so I can get the formatting of a message and written by. I then copy and past that into some other e-mail I am responding to. This happens when I am responding to two e-mails at once that must go to the same folks. Up to now that has worked fine. It 2.26.1 I can copy and past the message body or the On mm/dd/yy HH:MM am SoandSo Wrote: but if I try to select both it won't past (just blank) into the new message. Any idea what is causing this, how to fix or if it is a known bug? Thanx -H [I often do a replay to an email just so I can get the formatting of a message and written by. I then copy and past that into some other e-mail I am responding to.] I just pasted something from your message. It works, but I had to highlight what I wanted to copy after I opened the reply window, not before. If I highlight something before opening the reply window, only the highlighted item gets quoted. odd - it doesn't work for me. And yes I was using CTRL-V not P. IT gets into the copy buffer because I can past it into Word or my text editor but I can't past it into the other HTML formatted e-mail. Sometimes I can get it to work, so you may be on to something with an order that I open things in. Still it is odd that I can copy/paste the header or the body but not both together. I am using plain text for messages, not HTML. I do not see why that should make a big difference, however. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: e-mail copy paste issue
Ray_Net wrote: Paul B. Gallagher wrote, On 22/09/2014 22:58: hawker wrote: On 9/22/2014 3:45 PM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote: hawker wrote: Just noticed a new issue in mail 2.26.1 that was not there before I updated. Perhaps it has been fixed in 2.29. I often do a replay to an email just so I can get the formatting of a message and written by. I then copy and past that into some other e-mail I am responding to. This happens when I am responding to two e-mails at once that must go to the same folks. What exactly is a replay? Give step-by-step instructions so someone else can try it. Or do you mean rePLY? If so, it works fine for me in 2.26.1, regardless of whether the source or target or both are HTML or plain text. Up to now that has worked fine. It 2.26.1 I can copy and past[e] the message body or the On mm/dd/yy HH:MM am SoandSo Wrote: but if I try to select both it won't past[e] (just blank) into the new message. Any idea what is causing this, how to fix or if it is a known bug? Nope. Yes, darn typos. I did intend to say Reply not sure how that happened. Anyway odd. Are you sure you did what I said? Let me be more clear. 1) Reply to two different messages. 2) Select the On mm/dd/yy HH:MM am SoandSo Wrote: and the message body below. 3) Hit CTRL-C (Windows machine) or CTRL-X. 4) Go to the other e-mail and hit CTRL-P to past it. I get nothing. If I only select the On mm/dd/yy HH:MM am SoandSo Wrote: or the message body but not both it works as expected. Yes, I can easily PASTE either or both into a new message. Win7 Pro SP1, SM 2.26.1. Do us a favor and disable that autocorrupt feature that keeps substituting past for paste. Have you read my reply explaining in détails how to reproduce easely this bug ? Sure. Unable to reproduce, as I said earlier. Copy works fine, paste works fine, even print (Ctrl-P) works fine. -- War doesn't determine who's right, just who's left. -- Paul B. Gallagher ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: e-mail copy paste issue
On 9/23/2014 6:03 PM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote: Ray_Net wrote: Paul B. Gallagher wrote, On 22/09/2014 22:58: hawker wrote: On 9/22/2014 3:45 PM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote: hawker wrote: Just noticed a new issue in mail 2.26.1 that was not there before I updated. Perhaps it has been fixed in 2.29. I often do a replay to an email just so I can get the formatting of a message and written by. I then copy and past that into some other e-mail I am responding to. This happens when I am responding to two e-mails at once that must go to the same folks. What exactly is a replay? Give step-by-step instructions so someone else can try it. Or do you mean rePLY? If so, it works fine for me in 2.26.1, regardless of whether the source or target or both are HTML or plain text. Up to now that has worked fine. It 2.26.1 I can copy and past[e] the message body or the On mm/dd/yy HH:MM am SoandSo Wrote: but if I try to select both it won't past[e] (just blank) into the new message. Any idea what is causing this, how to fix or if it is a known bug? Nope. Yes, darn typos. I did intend to say Reply not sure how that happened. Anyway odd. Are you sure you did what I said? Let me be more clear. 1) Reply to two different messages. 2) Select the On mm/dd/yy HH:MM am SoandSo Wrote: and the message body below. 3) Hit CTRL-C (Windows machine) or CTRL-X. 4) Go to the other e-mail and hit CTRL-P to past it. I get nothing. If I only select the On mm/dd/yy HH:MM am SoandSo Wrote: or the message body but not both it works as expected. Yes, I can easily PASTE either or both into a new message. Win7 Pro SP1, SM 2.26.1. Do us a favor and disable that autocorrupt feature that keeps substituting past for paste. Have you read my reply explaining in détails how to reproduce easely this bug ? Sure. Unable to reproduce, as I said earlier. Copy works fine, paste works fine, even print (Ctrl-P) works fine. This bug is interesting. Ray - If I try your steps it works fine, however with my steps it does not work. Furthermore this bug just started at 2.26.1 and did not with whatever I was using before (probably 2.24 or around there). It sounds like your bug goes back further. So somehow this breaks for some users under some conditions only. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: e-mail copy paste issue
Paul B. Gallagher wrote, On 24/09/2014 00:03: Ray_Net wrote: Paul B. Gallagher wrote, On 22/09/2014 22:58: hawker wrote: On 9/22/2014 3:45 PM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote: hawker wrote: Just noticed a new issue in mail 2.26.1 that was not there before I updated. Perhaps it has been fixed in 2.29. I often do a replay to an email just so I can get the formatting of a message and written by. I then copy and past that into some other e-mail I am responding to. This happens when I am responding to two e-mails at once that must go to the same folks. What exactly is a replay? Give step-by-step instructions so someone else can try it. Or do you mean rePLY? If so, it works fine for me in 2.26.1, regardless of whether the source or target or both are HTML or plain text. Up to now that has worked fine. It 2.26.1 I can copy and past[e] the message body or the On mm/dd/yy HH:MM am SoandSo Wrote: but if I try to select both it won't past[e] (just blank) into the new message. Any idea what is causing this, how to fix or if it is a known bug? Nope. Yes, darn typos. I did intend to say Reply not sure how that happened. Anyway odd. Are you sure you did what I said? Let me be more clear. 1) Reply to two different messages. 2) Select the On mm/dd/yy HH:MM am SoandSo Wrote: and the message body below. 3) Hit CTRL-C (Windows machine) or CTRL-X. 4) Go to the other e-mail and hit CTRL-P to past it. I get nothing. If I only select the On mm/dd/yy HH:MM am SoandSo Wrote: or the message body but not both it works as expected. Yes, I can easily PASTE either or both into a new message. Win7 Pro SP1, SM 2.26.1. Do us a favor and disable that autocorrupt feature that keeps substituting past for paste. Have you read my reply explaining in détails how to reproduce easely this bug ? Sure. Unable to reproduce, as I said earlier. Copy works fine, paste works fine, even print (Ctrl-P) works fine. Have you tested using my explanations ? I am able to reproduce at will ... same with hawker. Try this: I used CTRL-C to copy the beginning of a mail created by hitting forward ... And i cannot CTRL-V to a New mail. In Word or in notepad, the CTRL-V works. I will try to CTRL-V here in this reply in newsgroups to see if it works.. NO I cannot insert the copied text here, So i will do CTRL-V in notepad, then in notepad Select All then CTRL-C and CTRL-V here: * Forwarded Message ** **Subject: Infos Séjours et Trekkings Arpernaz ** **Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2014 20:37:20 +0200 ** **From: Gusciglio **guscig...@skynet.be **To: Gusciglio **guscig...@skynet.be **Séjours et Trekkings Arpernaz ** **Chers Amies et Amis randonneurs, ** *** YES IT WORKS, but i am obliged to pass thru notepad to be able to copy it here Same for inserting i a new mail. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: e-mail copy paste issue
EE wrote, On 23/09/2014 22:42: hawker wrote: On 9/22/2014 4:23 PM, EE wrote: hawker wrote: Just noticed a new issue in mail 2.26.1 that was not there before I updated. Perhaps it has been fixed in 2.29. I often do a replay to an email just so I can get the formatting of a message and written by. I then copy and past that into some other e-mail I am responding to. This happens when I am responding to two e-mails at once that must go to the same folks. Up to now that has worked fine. It 2.26.1 I can copy and past the message body or the On mm/dd/yy HH:MM am SoandSo Wrote: but if I try to select both it won't past (just blank) into the new message. Any idea what is causing this, how to fix or if it is a known bug? Thanx -H [I often do a replay to an email just so I can get the formatting of a message and written by. I then copy and past that into some other e-mail I am responding to.] I just pasted something from your message. It works, but I had to highlight what I wanted to copy after I opened the reply window, not before. If I highlight something before opening the reply window, only the highlighted item gets quoted. odd - it doesn't work for me. And yes I was using CTRL-V not P. IT gets into the copy buffer because I can past it into Word or my text editor but I can't past it into the other HTML formatted e-mail. Sometimes I can get it to work, so you may be on to something with an order that I open things in. Still it is odd that I can copy/paste the header or the body but not both together. I am using plain text for messages, not HTML. I do not see why that should make a big difference, however. Try this when you have an existing HTML mail and ask me what to do as an option in send format options. Normally you should be able to reproduce. When i do it the quote headers ar viewed with surrounded by red-dots it's an html table. I think that's the key point to reproduce ... the clipboard of the selection in the forwarded mail is different than the clipboard of the selection in notepad after psting this text in notepad first. I used CTRL-C to copy the beginning of a mail created by hitting forward ... And i cannot CTRL-V to a New mail. In Word or in notepad, the CTRL-V works. I will try to CTRL-V here in this reply in newsgroups to see if it works.. NO I cannot insert the copied text here, So i will do CTRL-V in notepad, then in notepad Select All then CTRL-C and CTRL-V here: Forwarded Message Subject: Infos Séjours et Trekkings Arpernaz Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2014 20:37:20 +0200 From: Gusciglio guscig...@skynet.be To: Gusciglio guscig...@skynet.be Séjours et Trekkings Arpernaz Chers Amies et Amis randonneurs, YES IT WORKS, but i am obliged to pass thru notepad to be able to copy it here Same for inserting i a new mail. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: e-mail copy paste issue
Ray_Net wrote: Paul B. Gallagher wrote, On 24/09/2014 00:03: Sure. Unable to reproduce, as I said earlier. Copy works fine, paste works fine, even print (Ctrl-P) works fine. Have you tested using my explanations ? I am able to reproduce at will ... same with hawker. I've already answered clearly in the negative several times, I won't repeat myself again. I CANNOT reproduce this no matter how slavishly I follow your instructions. The same goes for the new set below. Try this: I used CTRL-C to copy the beginning of a mail created by hitting forward ... And i cannot CTRL-V to a New mail. In Word or in notepad, the CTRL-V works. Unable to reproduce. Everything works fine here. There must be some crucial difference in our installation (add-ons?) or settings. -- War doesn't determine who's right, just who's left. -- Paul B. Gallagher ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
e-mail copy paste issue
Just noticed a new issue in mail 2.26.1 that was not there before I updated. Perhaps it has been fixed in 2.29. I often do a replay to an email just so I can get the formatting of a message and written by. I then copy and past that into some other e-mail I am responding to. This happens when I am responding to two e-mails at once that must go to the same folks. Up to now that has worked fine. It 2.26.1 I can copy and past the message body or the On mm/dd/yy HH:MM am SoandSo Wrote: but if I try to select both it won't past (just blank) into the new message. Any idea what is causing this, how to fix or if it is a known bug? Thanx -H ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: e-mail copy paste issue
hawker wrote: Just noticed a new issue in mail 2.26.1 that was not there before I updated. Perhaps it has been fixed in 2.29. I often do a replay to an email just so I can get the formatting of a message and written by. I then copy and past that into some other e-mail I am responding to. This happens when I am responding to two e-mails at once that must go to the same folks. What exactly is a replay? Give step-by-step instructions so someone else can try it. Or do you mean rePLY? If so, it works fine for me in 2.26.1, regardless of whether the source or target or both are HTML or plain text. Up to now that has worked fine. It 2.26.1 I can copy and past[e] the message body or the On mm/dd/yy HH:MM am SoandSo Wrote: but if I try to select both it won't past[e] (just blank) into the new message. Any idea what is causing this, how to fix or if it is a known bug? Nope. -- War doesn't determine who's right, just who's left. -- Paul B. Gallagher ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: e-mail copy paste issue
On 9/22/2014 3:45 PM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote: hawker wrote: Just noticed a new issue in mail 2.26.1 that was not there before I updated. Perhaps it has been fixed in 2.29. I often do a replay to an email just so I can get the formatting of a message and written by. I then copy and past that into some other e-mail I am responding to. This happens when I am responding to two e-mails at once that must go to the same folks. What exactly is a replay? Give step-by-step instructions so someone else can try it. Or do you mean rePLY? If so, it works fine for me in 2.26.1, regardless of whether the source or target or both are HTML or plain text. Up to now that has worked fine. It 2.26.1 I can copy and past[e] the message body or the On mm/dd/yy HH:MM am SoandSo Wrote: but if I try to select both it won't past[e] (just blank) into the new message. Any idea what is causing this, how to fix or if it is a known bug? Nope. Yes, darn typos. I did intend to say Reply not sure how that happened. Anyway odd. Are you sure you did what I said? Let me be more clear. 1) Reply to two different messages. 2) Select the On mm/dd/yy HH:MM am SoandSo Wrote: and the message body below. 3) Hit CTRL-C (Windows machine) or CTRL-X. 4) Go to the other e-mail and hit CTRL-P to past it. I get nothing. If I only select the On mm/dd/yy HH:MM am SoandSo Wrote: or the message body but not both it works as expected. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: e-mail copy paste issue
On 9/22/2014 3:45 PM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote: hawker wrote: Just noticed a new issue in mail 2.26.1 that was not there before I updated. Perhaps it has been fixed in 2.29. I often do a replay to an email just so I can get the formatting of a message and written by. I then copy and past that into some other e-mail I am responding to. This happens when I am responding to two e-mails at once that must go to the same folks. What exactly is a replay? Give step-by-step instructions so someone else can try it. Or do you mean rePLY? If so, it works fine for me in 2.26.1, regardless of whether the source or target or both are HTML or plain text. Up to now that has worked fine. It 2.26.1 I can copy and past[e] the message body or the On mm/dd/yy HH:MM am SoandSo Wrote: but if I try to select both it won't past[e] (just blank) into the new message. Any idea what is causing this, how to fix or if it is a known bug? Nope. Yes, darn typos. I did intend to say Reply not sure how that happened. Anyway odd. Are you sure you did what I said? Let me be more clear. 1) Reply to two different messages. 2) Select the On mm/dd/yy HH:MM am SoandSo Wrote: and the message body below. 3) Hit CTRL-C (Windows machine) or CTRL-X. 4) Go to the other e-mail and hit CTRL-P to past it. I get nothing. If I only select the On mm/dd/yy HH:MM am SoandSo Wrote: or the message body but not both it works as expected. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: e-mail copy paste issue
hawker wrote: Just noticed a new issue in mail 2.26.1 that was not there before I updated. Perhaps it has been fixed in 2.29. I often do a replay to an email just so I can get the formatting of a message and written by. I then copy and past that into some other e-mail I am responding to. This happens when I am responding to two e-mails at once that must go to the same folks. Up to now that has worked fine. It 2.26.1 I can copy and past the message body or the On mm/dd/yy HH:MM am SoandSo Wrote: but if I try to select both it won't past (just blank) into the new message. Any idea what is causing this, how to fix or if it is a known bug? Thanx -H [I often do a replay to an email just so I can get the formatting of a message and written by. I then copy and past that into some other e-mail I am responding to.] I just pasted something from your message. It works, but I had to highlight what I wanted to copy after I opened the reply window, not before. If I highlight something before opening the reply window, only the highlighted item gets quoted. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: e-mail copy paste issue
hawker wrote: On 9/22/2014 3:45 PM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote: hawker wrote: Just noticed a new issue in mail 2.26.1 that was not there before I updated. Perhaps it has been fixed in 2.29. I often do a replay to an email just so I can get the formatting of a message and written by. I then copy and past that into some other e-mail I am responding to. This happens when I am responding to two e-mails at once that must go to the same folks. What exactly is a replay? Give step-by-step instructions so someone else can try it. Or do you mean rePLY? If so, it works fine for me in 2.26.1, regardless of whether the source or target or both are HTML or plain text. Up to now that has worked fine. It 2.26.1 I can copy and past[e] the message body or the On mm/dd/yy HH:MM am SoandSo Wrote: but if I try to select both it won't past[e] (just blank) into the new message. Any idea what is causing this, how to fix or if it is a known bug? Nope. Yes, darn typos. I did intend to say Reply not sure how that happened. Anyway odd. Are you sure you did what I said? Let me be more clear. 1) Reply to two different messages. 2) Select the On mm/dd/yy HH:MM am SoandSo Wrote: and the message body below. 3) Hit CTRL-C (Windows machine) or CTRL-X. 4) Go to the other e-mail and hit CTRL-P to past it. I get nothing. If I only select the On mm/dd/yy HH:MM am SoandSo Wrote: or the message body but not both it works as expected. Ctrl-p is print. Ctrl-v is paste. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: e-mail copy paste issue
On 9/22/2014 4:23 PM, EE wrote: hawker wrote: Just noticed a new issue in mail 2.26.1 that was not there before I updated. Perhaps it has been fixed in 2.29. I often do a replay to an email just so I can get the formatting of a message and written by. I then copy and past that into some other e-mail I am responding to. This happens when I am responding to two e-mails at once that must go to the same folks. Up to now that has worked fine. It 2.26.1 I can copy and past the message body or the On mm/dd/yy HH:MM am SoandSo Wrote: but if I try to select both it won't past (just blank) into the new message. Any idea what is causing this, how to fix or if it is a known bug? Thanx -H [I often do a replay to an email just so I can get the formatting of a message and written by. I then copy and past that into some other e-mail I am responding to.] I just pasted something from your message. It works, but I had to highlight what I wanted to copy after I opened the reply window, not before. If I highlight something before opening the reply window, only the highlighted item gets quoted. odd - it doesn't work for me. And yes I was using CTRL-V not P. IT gets into the copy buffer because I can past it into Word or my text editor but I can't past it into the other HTML formatted e-mail. Sometimes I can get it to work, so you may be on to something with an order that I open things in. Still it is odd that I can copy/paste the header or the body but not both together. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: e-mail copy paste issue
hawker wrote: On 9/22/2014 3:45 PM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote: hawker wrote: Just noticed a new issue in mail 2.26.1 that was not there before I updated. Perhaps it has been fixed in 2.29. I often do a replay to an email just so I can get the formatting of a message and written by. I then copy and past that into some other e-mail I am responding to. This happens when I am responding to two e-mails at once that must go to the same folks. What exactly is a replay? Give step-by-step instructions so someone else can try it. Or do you mean rePLY? If so, it works fine for me in 2.26.1, regardless of whether the source or target or both are HTML or plain text. Up to now that has worked fine. It 2.26.1 I can copy and past[e] the message body or the On mm/dd/yy HH:MM am SoandSo Wrote: but if I try to select both it won't past[e] (just blank) into the new message. Any idea what is causing this, how to fix or if it is a known bug? Nope. Yes, darn typos. I did intend to say Reply not sure how that happened. Anyway odd. Are you sure you did what I said? Let me be more clear. 1) Reply to two different messages. 2) Select the On mm/dd/yy HH:MM am SoandSo Wrote: and the message body below. 3) Hit CTRL-C (Windows machine) or CTRL-X. 4) Go to the other e-mail and hit CTRL-P to past it. I get nothing. If I only select the On mm/dd/yy HH:MM am SoandSo Wrote: or the message body but not both it works as expected. Yes, I can easily PASTE either or both into a new message. Win7 Pro SP1, SM 2.26.1. Do us a favor and disable that autocorrupt feature that keeps substituting past for paste. -- War doesn't determine who's right, just who's left. -- Paul B. Gallagher ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: e-mail copy paste issue
hawker wrote, On 22/09/2014 22:41: On 9/22/2014 4:23 PM, EE wrote: hawker wrote: Just noticed a new issue in mail 2.26.1 that was not there before I updated. Perhaps it has been fixed in 2.29. I often do a replay to an email just so I can get the formatting of a message and written by. I then copy and past that into some other e-mail I am responding to. This happens when I am responding to two e-mails at once that must go to the same folks. Up to now that has worked fine. It 2.26.1 I can copy and past the message body or the On mm/dd/yy HH:MM am SoandSo Wrote: but if I try to select both it won't past (just blank) into the new message. Any idea what is causing this, how to fix or if it is a known bug? Thanx -H [I often do a replay to an email just so I can get the formatting of a message and written by. I then copy and past that into some other e-mail I am responding to.] I just pasted something from your message. It works, but I had to highlight what I wanted to copy after I opened the reply window, not before. If I highlight something before opening the reply window, only the highlighted item gets quoted. odd - it doesn't work for me. And yes I was using CTRL-V not P. IT gets into the copy buffer because I can past it into Word or my text editor but I can't past it into the other HTML formatted e-mail. Sometimes I can get it to work, so you may be on to something with an order that I open things in. Still it is odd that I can copy/paste the header or the body but not both together. I have this kind of problem for YEARS and it's reproductible at will I used CTRL-C to copy the beginning of a mail created by hitting forward ... And i cannot CTRL-V to a New mail. In Word or in notepad, the CTRL-V works. I will try to CTRL-V here in this reply in newsgroups to see if it works.. NO I cannot insert the copied text here, So i will do CTRL-V in notepad, then in notepad Select All then CTRL-C and CTRL-V here: Forwarded Message Subject: Infos Séjours et Trekkings Arpernaz Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2014 20:37:20 +0200 From: Gusciglio guscig...@skynet.be To: Gusciglio guscig...@skynet.be Séjours et Trekkings Arpernaz Chers Amies et Amis randonneurs, YES IT WORKS, but i am obliged to pass thru notepad to be able to copy it here Same for inserting i a new mail. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: e-mail copy paste issue
On 9/22/2014 5:02 PM, Ray_Net wrote: hawker wrote, On 22/09/2014 22:41: On 9/22/2014 4:23 PM, EE wrote: hawker wrote: Just noticed a new issue in mail 2.26.1 that was not there before I updated. Perhaps it has been fixed in 2.29. I often do a replay to an email just so I can get the formatting of a message and written by. I then copy and past that into some other e-mail I am responding to. This happens when I am responding to two e-mails at once that must go to the same folks. Up to now that has worked fine. It 2.26.1 I can copy and past the message body or the On mm/dd/yy HH:MM am SoandSo Wrote: but if I try to select both it won't past (just blank) into the new message. Any idea what is causing this, how to fix or if it is a known bug? Thanx -H [I often do a replay to an email just so I can get the formatting of a message and written by. I then copy and past that into some other e-mail I am responding to.] I just pasted something from your message. It works, but I had to highlight what I wanted to copy after I opened the reply window, not before. If I highlight something before opening the reply window, only the highlighted item gets quoted. odd - it doesn't work for me. And yes I was using CTRL-V not P. IT gets into the copy buffer because I can past it into Word or my text editor but I can't past it into the other HTML formatted e-mail. Sometimes I can get it to work, so you may be on to something with an order that I open things in. Still it is odd that I can copy/paste the header or the body but not both together. I have this kind of problem for YEARS and it's reproductible at will I used CTRL-C to copy the beginning of a mail created by hitting forward ... And i cannot CTRL-V to a New mail. In Word or in notepad, the CTRL-V works. I will try to CTRL-V here in this reply in newsgroups to see if it works.. NO I cannot insert the copied text here, So i will do CTRL-V in notepad, then in notepad Select All then CTRL-C and CTRL-V here: Forwarded Message Subject: Infos Séjours et Trekkings Arpernaz Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2014 20:37:20 +0200 From: Gusciglio guscig...@skynet.be To: Gusciglio guscig...@skynet.be Séjours et Trekkings Arpernaz Chers Amies et Amis randonneurs, YES IT WORKS, but i am obliged to pass thru notepad to be able to copy it here Same for inserting i a new mail. YES! That is exactly what is happening here. But it didn't start until I updated to 2.26.1 Glad to know others see this. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Seamonkey 2.12.1 copy paste
Copy paste functions no longer work properly within a Seamonkey mail message. Fonts, colors text sizes change when a section of text is copy pasted within a single message. I am using a 27 iMac running System 10.5.8. Cannot upgrade because later system software does not support Appletalk. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey 2.12.1 copy paste
On 9/11/2012 1:18 PM, impederma...@gmail.com wrote: Copy paste functions no longer work properly within a Seamonkey mail message. Fonts, colors text sizes change when a section of text is copy pasted within a single message. I am using a 27 iMac running System 10.5.8. Cannot upgrade because later system software does not support Appletalk. Your the second person to say copy paste functions don't work correctly that I know of. The other was trying in composer, which is the same interface I think. I'm still on 2.11 as I always wait to hear if there are any major bugs. This sounds like a possible big one. Can anyone confirm if copy/paste/select all are broken in 2.12? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey 2.12.1 copy paste
hawker wrote: On 9/11/2012 1:18 PM, impederma...@gmail.com wrote: Copy paste functions no longer work properly within a Seamonkey mail message. Fonts, colors text sizes change when a section of text is copy pasted within a single message. I am using a 27 iMac running System 10.5.8. Cannot upgrade because later system software does not support Appletalk. Your the second person to say copy paste functions don't work correctly that I know of. The other was trying in composer, which is the same interface I think. I'm still on 2.11 as I always wait to hear if there are any major bugs. This sounds like a possible big one. Can anyone confirm if copy/paste/select all are broken in 2.12? Just tested copy, paste, delete using CTRL-C, CTRL-V, CTRL-X within Composer and between Composer and other apps, and no problems detected. This was not an exhaustive test, I spent only two minutes. But everything worked as expected. This was 2.12, not 2.12.1. -- War doesn't determine who's right, just who's left. -- Paul B. Gallagher ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey 2.12.1 copy paste
hawker wrote: On 9/11/2012 1:18 PM, impederma...@gmail.com wrote: Copy paste functions no longer work properly within a Seamonkey mail message. Fonts, colors text sizes change when a section of text is copy pasted within a single message. I am using a 27 iMac running System 10.5.8. Cannot upgrade because later system software does not support Appletalk. Your the second person to say copy paste functions don't work correctly that I know of. The other was trying in composer, which is the same interface I think. I'm still on 2.11 as I always wait to hear if there are any major bugs. This sounds like a possible big one. Can anyone confirm if copy/paste/select all are broken in 2.12? Copy and past work for me in Email using 2.12.1 although I am using Lion 10.7.4 and not 10.5.8. If I remember correctly didn't Mozilla (both FireFox and SeaMonkey stop supporting Mac OS 10.5? My suggestion for this user is if 10.6 supports appletalk he upgrade his OS to 10.6. He can also look for an alternative to Appletalk since all modern browsers (opera, safari, Firefox, SeaMonkey) no longer support 10.5. Even Apple has discontinued 10.5 support so there are no sucrity updates if you use 10.5. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Can't copy / paste HTML with SM2.12 nightly (Win 7)
On 5/26/2012 8:09 PM, Philip Chee wrote: On 26/05/2012 21:47, dominique wrote: Strange thing happening to my system: I can't copy / paste HTML formatted text. All the HTML formatting seems lost in the operation. My laptop runs Win7 Enterprise and I don't recall any change that could have triggered this behavior... Any hint ? Dom, What's the regression range? It might be fallout from: Bug 749527 - When trying to 'copy' a picture directly from Firefox into a windows live chat box, it copys the image location (link) instead of the image. Also see SeaMonkey Bug 752505 - Copy Image broken on Nightly Phil Hi Phil and all, I was not yet able to find a regression window, but I tried on my linux laptop and it works fine ! I still need to run more tests to better define the problem One thing I noticed though: when copying an HTML-formatted document, Ctrl-U shows lines wrapped ! Again, I need to check deeper if CrLf are inserted or not... I'll check the bug 749527 and 752505. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Can't copy / paste HTML with SM2.12 nightly (Win 7)
On 5/27/2012 9:22 AM, dominique wrote: On 5/26/2012 8:09 PM, Philip Chee wrote: On 26/05/2012 21:47, dominique wrote: Strange thing happening to my system: I can't copy / paste HTML formatted text. All the HTML formatting seems lost in the operation. My laptop runs Win7 Enterprise and I don't recall any change that could have triggered this behavior... Any hint ? Dom, What's the regression range? It might be fallout from: Bug 749527 - When trying to 'copy' a picture directly from Firefox into a windows live chat box, it copys the image location (link) instead of the image. Also see SeaMonkey Bug 752505 - Copy Image broken on Nightly Phil Hi Phil and all, I was not yet able to find a regression window, but I tried on my linux laptop and it works fine ! I still need to run more tests to better define the problem One thing I noticed though: when copying an HTML-formatted document, Ctrl-U shows lines wrapped ! Again, I need to check deeper if CrLf are inserted or not... I'll check the bug 749527 and 752505. OK, did some more testing (on windows only): I tried the following nightlies, all of those fail... 20120526 : fails 20120525 : fails 20120524 : fails 20120510 : fails 20120508 : fails 20120505 : fails 20120530 : fails I'm pretty sure that all was working fine prior to this date fur I'll try further back in time. I am also wondering if a pref has not been inserted into my default profile with a recent version that could invalidate the testing of earlier version. Could it happen ? thanks for the follow-up ! Best regards, Dominique ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Can't copy / paste HTML with SM2.12 nightly (Win 7)
Strange thing happening to my system: I can't copy / paste HTML formatted text. All the HTML formatting seems lost in the operation. My laptop runs Win7 Enterprise and I don't recall any change that could have triggered this behavior... Any hint ? Dom, ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Can't copy / paste HTML with SM2.12 nightly (Win 7)
On 26/05/2012 21:47, dominique wrote: Strange thing happening to my system: I can't copy / paste HTML formatted text. All the HTML formatting seems lost in the operation. My laptop runs Win7 Enterprise and I don't recall any change that could have triggered this behavior... Any hint ? Dom, What's the regression range? It might be fallout from: Bug 749527 - When trying to 'copy' a picture directly from Firefox into a windows live chat box, it copys the image location (link) instead of the image. Also see SeaMonkey Bug 752505 - Copy Image broken on Nightly Phil -- Philip Chee phi...@aleytys.pc.my, philip.c...@gmail.com http://flashblock.mozdev.org/ http://xsidebar.mozdev.org Guard us from the she-wolf and the wolf, and guard us from the thief, oh Night, and so be good for us to pass. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey don't support Cut-Copy-Paste and @ symbol !!!
Blisset® wrote: Hi, incredibly Seamonkey (I tested 2.0.8 version) don't support Cut- Copy-Paste and @ symbol. I even can't paste url in the urlbar!! I can't print @ in a window I ask to Seamonkey developers. Can you develop these must-have simple features? Thank you very much Works fine for me, has for every version since Netscape 4.5... -- War doesn't determine who's right, just who's left. -- Paul B. Gallagher ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey don't support Cut-Copy-Paste and @ symbol !!!
Blisset® blis...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, incredibly Seamonkey (I tested 2.0.8 version) don't support Cut- Copy-Paste and @ symbol. I even can't paste url in the urlbar!! I can't print @ in a window I ask to Seamonkey developers. Can you develop these must-have simple features? Thank you very much Hm, that doesn't add up. I've used cut/copy/paste functions in SeaMonkey right along. Could you provide more information about how you are tryin it and exactly where it fails? Lee ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey don't support Cut-Copy-Paste and @ symbol !!!
Blisset® a écrit : Hi, incredibly Seamonkey (I tested 2.0.8 version) don't support Cut- Copy-Paste and @ symbol. I even can't paste url in the urlbar!! I can't print @ in a window This reminds me of a problem I used to have. Do you use a McAfee antivirus (which sometimes is repackaged under another name?). If so, its Site Adviser is causing the problem. See https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=525601 (notably posts 6 to 15). S. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey don't support Cut-Copy-Paste and @ symbol !!!
don't support Cut-Copy-Paste There is an irritating issue that has been around for years. For me I encounter it primarily, but unpredictably, in the email composer, where the edit/paste selection is greyed out and it's not possible to paste something that's on the clipboard until something is copied from the message that is being composed. It doesn't happen regularly, and, when a copy function is executed, it does not happen again in the same session... which for me may go on for several days. Next time it happens, check the edit menu and report back. Beverly Howard ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Copy Paste
psuatocobra wrote: On Nov 12, 2:03 pm, Benoit Renard Yet RC2 and the final version are identical, so it doesn't sound like it came from a change in SeaMonkey (as there was none). Yes that makes sense. If you want to check out what is going on on the McAfee side, go to Site Advisor Service conflicts with SeaMonkey 2.0, http://community.mcafee.com/message/97378 Please chime in. Account creation is required to input to any of the The McAfeeCommunity discusions. The good news is that their account creation routine does not check if you're a customer. At least it didn't when I created mine. P.A.C. I readed there ... However we do need to have the SeaMonkey Project folks *work* *with* *us* as it may not be just a McAfee issue. So i doubt that this problem will be solved :-) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Copy Paste
On Nov 12, 2:03 pm, Benoit Renard Yet RC2 and the final version are identical, so it doesn't sound like it came from a change in SeaMonkey (as there was none). Yes that makes sense. If you want to check out what is going on on the McAfee side, go to Site Advisor Service conflicts with SeaMonkey 2.0, http://community.mcafee.com/message/97378 Please chime in. Account creation is required to input to any of the The McAfeeCommunity discusions. The good news is that their account creation routine does not check if you're a customer. At least it didn't when I created mine. P.A.C. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Copy Paste
psuatocobra wrote: A MozillaZine Forums post, http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?f=40t=1558785start=15 , contains an interesting comment: Look, the problem is with Seamonkey when you try to copy text out of it. Every other browser allows copy without problem. I am having the same issue. It happened as soon as my Seamonkey 2.0 beta upgraded itself to the release version. Also, copy was working fine in the 2.0 beta and RC2. Same firewall, same antivirus, the only thing that changed was Seamonkey. Paste from non-Seamonkey apps into Seamonkey works fine for me. So, this poster claims that copy--paste worked fine in SeaMonkey 2.0 right up until the time it went GA (IBM talk meaning Generally Available), released for production, final edition, etc. This sounds like key info for determining the cause. Yet RC2 and the final version are identical, so it doesn't sound like it came from a change in SeaMonkey (as there was none). ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Copy Paste
psuatocobra schrieb: I'm new to Google Groups mozilla.support.seamonkey . How does this get investigated? I'm not taking sides. I'd just like a definitive answer. If there's a bugreport on bugzilla chances are high someone from the seamonkey team will have a look at it. Maybe it would be a good idea to contact McAfee, too. regards Martin -- () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - http://www.gerstbach.at/2004/ascii ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Copy Paste
On Nov 11, 3:53 am, Martin Freitag prof_nosp...@quantentunnel.de wrote: psuatocobra schrieb: I'm new to Google Groups mozilla.support.seamonkey . How does this get investigated? I'm not taking sides. I'd just like a definitive answer. If there's a bugreport on bugzilla chances are high someone from the seamonkey team will have a look at it. Maybe it would be a good idea to contact McAfee, too. regards Martin -- () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org -http://www.gerstbach.at/2004/ascii There is an existing Bug, Bug 525601. Actually the following Bugs seem to me to be dups: Bug 528083, Bug 527662, Bug 515169, and Bug 525706. Finding these via the searches available from the main Bugzilla page, https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/ is not easy, but in the “Enter a Bug’ process they appeared at the top of the “copy paste” hits. I’ve added my input to Bug 525601. Only time will tell if anything will be investigated. Also from Bug 525601, on http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.0/#issues, SeaMonkey 2.0, Known Issues, says: “For some Windows users, cutting or copying text, links, whatever from anywhere in SM 2.0 does not appear to place the cut or copied text in the Clipboard. Some reports say that McAfee SiteAdviser Service might be responsible and completely deleting or shutting down this service might fix the problem. (Bug 525601)” I’ll try contacting McAfee tomorrow. P.A.C. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Copy Paste
On Nov 9, 12:28 pm, S. Beaulieu seree...@netscape.net wrote: William Morrison wrote: They found that McAfee site adviser is causing a conflict, in msconfig under services uncheck the McAfee site adviser, reboot and copy/cut paste should work fine. I also discovered that the Site Advisor can be uninstalled altogether. Go in Program Files - McAfee - Site Advisor and run uninstall.exe. Added bonus: this process prompts a survey form asking why you uninstalled the Site Advisor, which allows you to tell McAfee that it was conflicting with SM2. The more people do this, the more likely it is that they will fix this bug. (Of course, it automatically launches the survey through IE even if it's not the default browser, so don't hesitate to add a comment about that too!) S. This seems like this is best Google Groups mozilla.support.seamonkey post to add to, for the copy--paste problem. It seems that the consensus is that its McAfee's problem to resolve. But the first thing asked when a problem surfaces, is What changed? For me it's SeaMonkey (2.0). I've been running the same version of McAfee since 2009/09/27. This version of McAfee, Total Protection 2010, was released to the public before SeaMonkey 2.0. SM 2.0 is the new one in the pool (relatively), so to speak. Generally, it's up to the last changer to investigate, find any problems on their side, or determine the problem is not theirs, Yes, I confirm that turning off McAfee SiteAdvisor makes the problem go away for me also. But that doesn't mean its McAfee's fault. Personally I don't care whose fault it is. Fault is not the issue, determining what caused the problem is. Once that's established, the ball will be in whoever's court. They (whoever it turns out to be) must then decide how to respond and give a priority to that response. A MozillaZine Forums post, http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?f=40t=1558785start=15 , contains an interesting comment: Look, the problem is with Seamonkey when you try to copy text out of it. Every other browser allows copy without problem. I am having the same issue. It happened as soon as my Seamonkey 2.0 beta upgraded itself to the release version. Also, copy was working fine in the 2.0 beta and RC2. Same firewall, same antivirus, the only thing that changed was Seamonkey. Paste from non-Seamonkey apps into Seamonkey works fine for me. So, this poster claims that copy--paste worked fine in SeaMonkey 2.0 right up until the time it went GA (IBM talk meaning Generally Available), released for production, final edition, etc. This sounds like key info for determining the cause. Also in that MozillaZine Forums post: My final possible stupid question - who is responsible for correcting this glitch? In the past I have used the McAfee site advisor in IE and it would be annoying to switch it on and off from msconfig. I feel the same. I'm new to Google Groups mozilla.support.seamonkey . How does this get investigated? I'm not taking sides. I'd just like a definitive answer. Thanks, ---P.A.C. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Copy Paste
Keith Whaley wrote: Earl wrote: Seamonkey v.2.0 I can copy but not paste. For instance, I can copy a URL but unable to paste it into a new message. I can Copy it seems but neither right clicking nor Ctl V will paste. Please explain or advise how to achieve this common task. Thanks. EE Your v.2.0 may be different, but on my computer, Command-V does the pasting! Caution: I am using SM 1.1.18 and Mac OS 10.6.1 keith whaley It is CRTL V on Windows and Linux. See the posts about the McAfee Site Advisor, it is almost surely causing the problem. Lee ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Copy Paste
Keith Whaley wrote: Earl wrote: Seamonkey v.2.0 I can copy but not paste. For instance, I can copy a URL but unable to paste it into a new message. I can Copy it seems but neither right clicking nor Ctl V will paste. Please explain or advise how to achieve this common task. Thanks. EE Your v.2.0 may be different, but on my computer, Command-V does the pasting! Caution: I am using SM 1.1.18 and Mac OS 10.6.1 Keith Whaley Once I worked out some Glitches strangely caused after installing of an extension, which worked itself out with a second restart of SM2. Command-V does indeed paste. I had a problem originally with Cut, Copy, Paste. -- Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T.If it's Fixed, Don't Break it http://www.phillipmjones.net http://www.vpea.org mailto:pjon...@kimbanet.com ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
was Can't get profile to Seamonkey2.0 now can't cut/copy--paste
Well it looks like I'm definitely going back to 1.1.18, I was just trying to write an email to someone and at first wanted to copy a web site address from 2.0 browser into the body of the letter and couldn't then after I manually typed it in I realized I should move it to earlier in the sentence and couldn't this really sucks, every time I would try to paste it would put in something I copied earlier from outside SeaMonkey. -- Big Bill Massillon, Oh USA ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: was Can't get profile to Seamonkey2.0 now can't cut/copy--paste
William Morrison wrote: Well it looks like I'm definitely going back to 1.1.18, I was just trying to write an email to someone and at first wanted to copy a web site address from 2.0 browser into the body of the letter and couldn't then after I manually typed it in I realized I should move it to earlier in the sentence and couldn't this really sucks, every time I would try to paste it would put in something I copied earlier from outside SeaMonkey. This is a reported bug, but does not affect every user. I was just happily copy/pasting in 2.0 with no issue at all. Have you tried opening in Safe Mode, and see if it works there? If not, have you tried creating a test profile to see if it works there? Lee -- Netscape Champion ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: was Can't get profile to Seamonkey2.0 now can't cut/copy--paste
Leonidas Jones wrote: William Morrison wrote: Well it looks like I'm definitely going back to 1.1.18, I was just trying to write an email to someone and at first wanted to copy a web site address from 2.0 browser into the body of the letter and couldn't then after I manually typed it in I realized I should move it to earlier in the sentence and couldn't this really sucks, every time I would try to paste it would put in something I copied earlier from outside SeaMonkey. This is a reported bug, but does not affect every user. I was just happily copy/pasting in 2.0 with no issue at all. Have you tried opening in Safe Mode, and see if it works there? If not, have you tried creating a test profile to see if it works there? Lee For me the following are unavailable: Command-C, Command-V, Command-X (PC I believe is equiv to Alt-C, Alt-V, Alt-X). However; I can if I work fast enough is select item; hold down option Key and Drag and Drop. Or Drag select and hit delete. -- Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T.If it's Fixed, Don't Break it http://www.phillipmjones.net http://www.vpea.org mailto:pjon...@kimbanet.com ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: was Can't get profile to Seamonkey2.0 now can't cut/copy--paste
William Morrison wrote: Leonidas Jones wrote: William Morrison wrote: /snip/ Leonidas Jones wrote: William Morrison wrote: Well it looks like I'm definitely going back to 1.1.18, I was just trying to write an email to someone and at first wanted to copy a web site address from 2.0 browser into the body of the letter and couldn't then after I manually typed it in I realized I should move it to earlier in the sentence and couldn't this really sucks, every time I would try to paste it would put in something I copied earlier from outside SeaMonkey. This is a reported bug, but does not affect every user. I was just happily copy/pasting in 2.0 with no issue at all. Have you tried opening in Safe Mode, and see if it works there? If not, have you tried creating a test profile to see if it works there? Lee Well, you misunderstand me. Safe Mode does not always reproduce the effect of a clean profile. I am not suggesting that you set up a new profile for permanent use at this point. I am only suggesting that you set up a new profile as a test. You don't need to set up mail/news at all. Just a new profile and do a quick copy paste in the browser to see if that works. That will tell us whether or not the problem is profile related or if it is the program on your system. Since it is working fine for me on both Mac OS X and Win XP, I don't know where to begin looking for the problem on your setup. If you choose not to do the troubleshooting step, well I guess I can't help you, much though I would like to. Good luck with it anyhow. Lee /snip/ Ok I guess I did misunderstand you and will try the new profile test shortly but thought I would ask this first. I went to about :config and did a search for copy I find that a setting for it reads like this clipboard.autocopy default boolean false is this correct for this setting? I haven't changed anything yet but thought I'd ask about it to see if this could be my problem. Good thought, but mine is set to false as well, and copy/paste works as it always has for me. That's probably not the culprit. Try the test profile and see. If it does work, we can troubleshoot through your existing profile. If not, I'm not sure where we go, but there are a lot of hands here. Lee ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
